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Speaker 2: If you want to pass. And we are underway. What

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Speaker 2: is up everybody? Happy holidays? I am your host, Chris

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Speaker 2: Raybond and this is the Action Network Podcast, present it

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Speaker 2: by Fan Due. Today we got our NFL player projections

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Speaker 2: for week sixteen. We'll go through our top five skill position,

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Speaker 2: discuss players we're especially high and low on this week,

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Speaker 2: and of course throw out some player props as well.

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Speaker 2: Here to help me break it down. As always, one

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Speaker 2: of the top rankers in the game, Sean Kerner.

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Speaker 1: Sean's so honestly, I'm still recovering from just that batshit

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Speaker 1: crazy week fifteen, one of the most exciting and crazy

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Speaker 1: weeks ever. Plus we have the World Cup Final randomly

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Speaker 1: you know Sunday morning too. We got to watch that too.

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Speaker 1: But amazing weekend, how about you?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah it was. It was a great weekend. Had

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Speaker 2: a good betting week, although I was sweating that that

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Speaker 2: Colts game. Actually, oh yeah, that's crazy, right, Like they

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Speaker 2: bought the biggest lead in they boil the biggest lead

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Speaker 2: it was a good week, and I agree it was

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Speaker 2: very one of the more interesting NFL weeks I think

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Speaker 2: we've seen in a while. All Right, let's let's jump

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Speaker 2: into this week, see if it's can move up to

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Speaker 2: the Week fifteen hype. But who do you like a

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Speaker 2: quarterback in your top five?

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Speaker 1: So? I got Josh Allen, past Maholmes, Justin Herbert, Joe

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Speaker 1: Burrow right now, I have Lamar Jackson, who knows if

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Speaker 1: he'll actually play, but if he's out, I have Kirk

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Speaker 2: Five Oh spicy? Yeah, I got Allen, Mahomes, Herbert, Justin Fields,

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Speaker 2: and two a tongue of Bailoa. So yeah, I don't

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Speaker 2: think I don't have Lamar in though I think it

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Speaker 2: sounds to me like he's going to miss one more week.

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Speaker 2: So I would actually be fairly high on Huntley because

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Speaker 2: I think I see what you're getting at That Atlanta

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Speaker 2: defense kind of pumps up the quarterback projections. Whoever it is,

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Speaker 2: so I think I have Huntley like to be seventeen

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Speaker 2: or something, which is high for him. But yeah, not

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Speaker 2: projecting Jackson as of yet.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Fields makes sense and just previewing to like Leek eighteen.

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Speaker 1: You know, we're looking for records and incentives. I guess

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Speaker 1: Fields he is interested in breaking Lamar Jackson's single season

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Speaker 1: yards per game right round there. Yeah, the rest of

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Speaker 1: the way. So that's something I'll look out for with props,

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Speaker 1: I guess starting this week, but going forward as I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he says much, and you know it's it's a

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Speaker 2: tough matchup against Buffalo, but he's playing so well. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you know, against Silly he's still put up points. You know,

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Speaker 2: no like slam dunk. You know, you're talking about Kirk

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Speaker 1: I'm high on Gardner Minshew. I have him as my

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Speaker 1: QB eighteen right now. The consensus is QB twenty three.

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Speaker 1: That's probably due, you know, people scrambling trying to update

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Speaker 1: is a tough matchup against Dallas Minshew is certainly a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm I'm higher, thank you said consensus QB twenty two.

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Speaker 2: Come in, like you said, a little more pass heavy.

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Speaker 2: He is like QB seven and that kind of speaks

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Speaker 2: Minnesota and uh, just a totally different kind of game

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Speaker 2: I think for Daniel Jones. So I think he could

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Speaker 2: love me some Dayana Jones.

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Speaker 1: This week, where's his ECR right now?

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Speaker 1: I think, oh, okay, okay, I thought, yeah, I have twelve, twelve, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I have him QB ten a lot of the same reasons,

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Speaker 1: That's kind of why I have Kirk Cousins bring so high.

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Speaker 1: You know, Cousins, he's not getting average four hundred and

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Speaker 1: So this is a good matchup for Daniel Jones. Even

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Speaker 2: Way, you know, So for everyone listening out there, you know,

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Speaker 2: Sean and I we kind of just discuss random player

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Speaker 2: even with Jefferson, he's still averaging ten point eight yards

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought about that twenty three. I think we

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm just pretty sure that Kirk Cousins

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's kind especially after getting Hawkinson. I think that helps,

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Speaker 2: as much. But i'd digress. Who are you going?

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Speaker 1: So I'm lowell on Trevor Lawrence. I have him as

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Speaker 1: QB thirteen right now. The consensus is QB seven. You know,

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Speaker 1: he is playing out of his mind right now. This

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Speaker 1: is certainly the best five to six game stretch of

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Speaker 1: his career. We're finally witnessing his breakout. In my opinion. However,

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Speaker 1: projecting him for like forty rushing yards. So he's more

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Speaker 1: you know, Lawrence is playing so well, we surprising me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I have him QB thirteen as well, about two

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Speaker 2: hundred and forty yards, but yeah, only one point two

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Speaker 2: touchdowns for him passing, and that's again because as you mentioned,

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Speaker 2: Jaguars playing on a Thursday. Eighteen and a half points

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Speaker 2: there's a few low team totals this week that kind

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Speaker 2: guy I'm on one, Derek Carr. You know, I have

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Speaker 2: him at QB twenty's QB seventeen consensus and base has

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Speaker 2: only implied for eighteen points, eighteen points or eighteen point

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Speaker 2: it can be touch and go, like if he doesn't

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Speaker 2: And then you know, going to Pittsburgh, who you know, Now,

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Speaker 2: it's like this Pittsburgh team all of a sudden has

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Speaker 2: and like now you got to go to the terrible

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Speaker 1: So well, guess what, I'm lower than you. Even he

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Speaker 1: How do we do? Last week?

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I have I do have it at under

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Speaker 1: So, Christian McCaffrey, Derrick Henry, Austin Eckler, Josh Jacobs, Dalvin Cook.

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Speaker 1: So as always I'm high on Latavious Murray. I have

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Speaker 1: him as always.

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00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,960
Speaker 2: But JK Dobbins is it looks really good?

430
00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:30,000
Speaker 1: No? I know he doesn't get any catches, so that

431
00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:31,800
Speaker 1: that yeah, you know, that's why I ranked him a

432
00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,280
Speaker 1: little bit lower. But yeah, all those three guys, you

433
00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,880
Speaker 1: know they're grinders. But yeah, I feel like every week

434
00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:40,120
Speaker 1: we're super high on Latavious Murray and James Connor. Once

435
00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:42,399
Speaker 1: again this week, you know, same story.

436
00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:45,520
Speaker 2: So many snaps. All right, who are you low on?

437
00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:50,200
Speaker 1: Let's see, I am low on Brian Robinson Junior. You know,

438
00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:53,320
Speaker 1: he's my RB thirty eight. The consensus is RB twenty eight.

439
00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:57,920
Speaker 1: And let's face it, he has been absolutely phenomenal, especially lately.

440
00:21:58,000 --> 00:21:59,760
Speaker 1: You know, it's eighty five or more rushing yards and

441
00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,840
Speaker 1: were the last five games. However, he just gets a

442
00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,000
Speaker 1: down grade here. You know, it's it's a tougher matchup

443
00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:08,040
Speaker 1: against forty nine ers who ranked second in DV against

444
00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,920
Speaker 1: the run. It's going to be a trailing game script

445
00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:14,600
Speaker 1: most likely, which definitely hurts Robinson. You know, that sets

446
00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:18,119
Speaker 1: up way better for Antonio Gibson. And you know Washington

447
00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,359
Speaker 1: has the fifth lowest team total. You said, the lookout

448
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 1: for some of these low team totals, so you know

449
00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:24,879
Speaker 1: that lowers the odds of Robinson bailing out with the

450
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,840
Speaker 1: rushing touchdown. So a lot of reasons to not like

451
00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,360
Speaker 1: him this week. So he's a low end RB three

452
00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:34,000
Speaker 1: flex option for me. Should be a you know, smash

453
00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:36,800
Speaker 1: RB two play next week against the Browns though, so

454
00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:38,879
Speaker 1: definitely hang on to him. But yeah, he gets a

455
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,200
Speaker 1: downgrade for me this week. And then the other guy

456
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:45,480
Speaker 1: is Rashad White. You know, it's unfortunate he's my RB

457
00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:49,120
Speaker 1: thirty three this week. The consensus has him RB twenty five.

458
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,760
Speaker 1: But this is just a tough position to be in

459
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:53,520
Speaker 1: this week if you have either one of these Tampa

460
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:57,080
Speaker 1: Bay running backs. You know, last week White and Fournette

461
00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:00,440
Speaker 1: they split the early down work. However, it's role in

462
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 1: the passing game slipt significantly, you know, a thirty percent

463
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 1: routes run rate, his lowest rate since Week nine, and

464
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:08,879
Speaker 1: that's kind of the role we want this week facing

465
00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:12,439
Speaker 1: the Cardinals, you know, they're a you know, a funnel

466
00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,120
Speaker 1: defense for running backs and tight ends in the passing game.

467
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 1: So you know, White actually saw most of the third

468
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:21,879
Speaker 1: down work, but at four Nette saw every single snap

469
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,560
Speaker 1: and the two minute offense. So that makes it really

470
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 1: tricky to project this going forward. I think his routes

471
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 1: run rate will bump up, you know, probably forty percent

472
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 1: this week if that holds, but it just makes it

473
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,680
Speaker 1: so uncertain. So he's he's sort of a dicey RB

474
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:40,000
Speaker 1: three flex option this week, just given uncertainty, which is

475
00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:41,639
Speaker 1: unfortunate because it looked like he was going to be

476
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:43,159
Speaker 1: an RB two the rest of the season. So I

477
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 1: just be careful with him this week.

478
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:48,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I actually have both of them projected in

479
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 2: the top twenty six.

480
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:50,240
Speaker 1: I have.

481
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:52,679
Speaker 2: I have White at twenty six and four Net at

482
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:56,080
Speaker 2: twenty three. I just have both of them. Yeah, bawling out.

483
00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:58,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just unfortunately that just neither one of them

484
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 1: really dominated any capacity last week. It's like it's split

485
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:04,400
Speaker 1: down the middle.

486
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it's what it is. It's like it's like

487
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:08,920
Speaker 2: White's starting to get uh like get even out in

488
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:13,119
Speaker 2: the carries. But for next continuing to see about sixty

489
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,200
Speaker 2: percent of the receiving work in Whites more at like

490
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:19,200
Speaker 2: or sixty sixty five and Whites at like thirty thirty

491
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 2: five forty. Yeah, I'm low on Robinson as well. And

492
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 2: another guy is Cordero Patterson. Uh, you know, we're starting

493
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,639
Speaker 2: to see Tyler Algier take hold of that backfield. And

494
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 2: last week we saw Algier get uh, you know, more

495
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,959
Speaker 2: of the carries, and that hasn't happened yet this season

496
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 2: in a you know, we actually it has, but it's

497
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:45,200
Speaker 2: happened very rarely, and especially when Patterson's been healthy. And

498
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,160
Speaker 2: Patterson is healthy now they were coming off a buy

499
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 2: and Algiers still saw more of the carries and Patterson

500
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:52,639
Speaker 2: saw more of the routes out of the backfield. But

501
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 2: it's not really that valuable with Desmond Ritter throwing for

502
00:24:55,640 --> 00:25:00,960
Speaker 2: ninety seven yards a game, so and Algie had you know,

503
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 2: a monster game last game. But more importantly, it's gonna

504
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 2: be a tough matchup for both of them, but especially Patterson.

505
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,400
Speaker 2: You know, if he's getting less carries and you're gonna

506
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,880
Speaker 2: have to rely on unreceiving work little more. This Baltimore defense,

507
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:16,880
Speaker 2: you know, they're not giving up much against the run,

508
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,359
Speaker 2: but they're they're top ten in DVOA against both the

509
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,159
Speaker 2: running and the past. So I just think with a

510
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 2: slight bump down and usage with the quarterback potentially throwing

511
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:30,439
Speaker 2: for even west yardage than Mariota. I got Patterson at

512
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,440
Speaker 2: RB thirty eight this week, and he's in a thirty

513
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:37,440
Speaker 2: three consensus. So Patterson is a guy that I'm trying

514
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 2: to bench. If I have a better option at the

515
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 2: flex or RB three.

516
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 1: That's that's a good call. And it's actually a segue

517
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 1: to my player promp. Actually, so Tyler Algier rushing yards,

518
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:56,640
Speaker 1: I have it. Let's let's put it at fifty six

519
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:57,120
Speaker 1: and a half.

520
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 2: Oh that's a good one. I have it at fifty eight,

521
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,159
Speaker 2: so I go over. Oh nice, but yeah, it's a

522
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,680
Speaker 2: good line. Baltimore is tough, tough run dese. Yeah, you

523
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:12,120
Speaker 2: know the volume for uh, these Atlanta backs just and spend.

524
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 2: Now Huntley's out so you can see it. Yeah, that's

525
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 2: true extra carrier to for for each of these guys.

526
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:19,880
Speaker 2: So yeah, I have ad just over.

527
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:22,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, Algier is good. Like I remember coming out

528
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,400
Speaker 1: of the draft, was he a fifth rounder? I thought

529
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 1: he was a sneaky letter. We didn't really know how

530
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 1: this Falcons offense would turn out. I had no idea

531
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 1: it was going to be this run heavy, but he

532
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,359
Speaker 1: he gave me serious James Connor vibes and that you know,

533
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,919
Speaker 1: every week he reminds me more and more of James Connor.

534
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 1: So hopefully you know the last couple of weeks, why

535
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,159
Speaker 1: why even throw a quarter all passing out there at

536
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 1: you know, thirty five years old?

537
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 2: What is it?

538
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 1: Just unleash Algier like and in all ways, and with

539
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 1: the Huntley injury, like, yeah, it would not surprise me

540
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 1: if you just you know, close out the season with

541
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 1: the bang. So but he's on this, you know, he's

542
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 1: like right there, he's my RB thirty six.

543
00:26:58,240 --> 00:26:58,400
Speaker 2: Yep.

544
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:00,680
Speaker 1: So he's really tricky. For so, he's a guy that

545
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,160
Speaker 1: people might be wondering if they should start or sit.

546
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 1: Like he said, I think just based on the matchup,

547
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,120
Speaker 1: he's more of a sit. But just if you want

548
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 1: to bet on talent, I think he you know, he

549
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 1: could provide a pretty high forward these last couple of weeks.

550
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I start, I start him over Patterson this week.

551
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 2: But yeah, I have thirty six Pats and thirty eight,

552
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 2: so ideally he wouldn't start either. But right, I agree,

553
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,919
Speaker 2: I think I think our gear is trending up.

554
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 1: Who they play next week? Like next week might be

555
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 1: the time to play all gear. Yeah, A good call

556
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,880
Speaker 1: on you. Your Ritter passing yard production is about twenty

557
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 1: yards lower than me. I eventually got closer to you.

558
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,920
Speaker 1: I up to scramble Raye, but that was brutal London.

559
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 1: London had a good game, of course.

560
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 2: But yeah he Elsey and they covered and they covered.

561
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 1: Yeap, Yeah. True. More importantly, they play the Cardinals.

562
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 2: Oh that's a good matchup for Yeah, that's that's where

563
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:58,880
Speaker 2: I might have both of them in my top twenty

564
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:05,119
Speaker 2: five next week. All right, let's go to wide receiver.

565
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 1: Top five pretty straightforward at this point, justin Jefferson, Terry Hill,

566
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 1: Jamar Chase, Stefon Diggs, DeVante Adams.

567
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:16,159
Speaker 2: Yep, I got Jefferson Hill, Dig's third Chase than Adams.

568
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 2: So that that that Chicago defense, I mean, they just

569
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,639
Speaker 2: got lit up by vote, like like Jalen Hurts. That

570
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 2: was another. I was looking at my passing yards for

571
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:27,439
Speaker 2: Hurts and I'm like, I think I have it too.

572
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 2: I had it like a two fifty something. I'm like,

573
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 2: I'm like, the market is at like two thirty like

574
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 2: and then sure enough he goes up. So like, it's

575
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 2: just the Chicago defense, you know, it's just bumping up

576
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 2: these courts. It's just they're just giving up yardage. And

577
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 2: they don't really have a lot of talent on that

578
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 2: defense because remember they're traded a lot of guys, so

579
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 2: the pass rusher isn't really getting home. So I think

580
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 2: they can bleed passing yards. So that's why I have

581
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 2: digs over Chase who you never you know, Belichick, I don't.

582
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 2: I don't know what he's got in store. But Adams

583
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 2: did kind of go missing against the Patriots. Yeah, That's

584
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 2: why I have digs.

585
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 1: Is this a Gabe Davis Nuclear week potential?

586
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 2: Man I gave Gave Davis has always been like my

587
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 2: wide receiver forty. Yeah, he's kind of gone missing, so.

588
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 1: I hope so, but well against his Bears defense, if

589
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 1: you can't do it here, let's see.

590
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 2: I still have wide receiver thirty five digs is the

591
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 2: one that kind of jumps more.

592
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 1: Obviously there's no there's no disputing that, but I'm just

593
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 1: saying this. There's been a lot of things going against

594
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 1: Gay Davis. I've been with you. It's been you know,

595
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 1: Damn Shane being low on him every week. But this

596
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 1: is a week where he could you know, pop off,

597
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 1: and he's right there on that fringe sit start, So

598
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 1: you know, it's one of those weeks you don't want

599
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 1: to have him on your bench when he goes off

600
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 1: for three touchdowns and two hundred yards, But if they

601
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 1: were a week where it could happen, it'd be here,

602
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 1: all right.

603
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 2: Who are you high on?

604
00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 1: So I'm super high on Juju Smith Schuster. He's all

605
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 1: the way up to my wide receiver fifteen Right now.

606
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 1: The consensus is wide receiver twenty two, which is kind

607
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 1: of shocking because he's been going off the past couple weeks.

608
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 1: You know, he has two games in a row of

609
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 1: nine or more receptions ever since you know, he got

610
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 1: eased back in in week twelve. We were kind of

611
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 1: wondering what the hell's going on there? He's averaging eighty

612
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 1: five percent routes run rate. You know, this is a

613
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 1: good matchup for him on multiple aspects. You know that

614
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 1: Seattle plays zone at the second highest rate. His yards

615
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 1: per ret run are one point seven against man, they

616
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 1: go up to two point four against zone. You know

617
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 1: he should also avoid Treak Woollen in the slot for

618
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 1: the most part, should mainly match up against Kobe Bryant,

619
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 1: who's allowed seventy five percent catch rates. So you know,

620
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 1: he's a solid, solid wide receiver two option this week,

621
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 1: very high flour which is great for the fantasy playoffs.

622
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 1: When it's you're in a must win game, you definitely

623
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 1: want to have got the high four. So love him

624
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 1: and then have to go with one of our former

625
00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 1: fantasy flex favorites and kJ Osborne. He he's my wide

626
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 1: receiver forty two. The consensus is wide receiver fifty eight.

627
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: But you know he's also been on fire obviously, coming

628
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 1: off that massive ten catch, one hundred and fifty seven

629
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 1: yard game last week. I don't think he'll be able

630
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 1: to keep that up. Like I said, I don't think

631
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins will be averaging four hundred and thirty five

632
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 1: yards a game going forward. But you know this defense

633
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 1: is horrible, so they're kind of gonna have to throw

634
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 1: a lot to keep up. And you know he's kind

635
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 1: of feeling Adam Fieln's dropping off quite a bit recently,

636
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 1: so you know, Osborne's kind of filling that role. Would

637
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 1: not surprise me if he's their wide receiver two next season.

638
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 1: So you know, I just like his floor here. Again.

639
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna pop off for you know,

640
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 1: one hundred yards again the rest of the season, but

641
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 1: you know, four or five catches for sixty yards maybe

642
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 1: a touchdown going forward, that's kind of where he's been settling.

643
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 1: So I consider him, you know, high high end wide

644
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 1: receiver four option this week against the Giants, Yeah, I

645
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 1: like him as well.

646
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 2: He you know, this defense for the Giants, they play

647
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 2: man coverage at the highest rate in the league because

648
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 2: they left to blitz, and Osborne averages nearly a half

649
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 2: yard more per route against man coverage. So, uh, you know,

650
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 2: the fact that he went off against the Colts, who

651
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 2: played more zone is a good sign, but this is

652
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 2: actually the kind of defense that he tends to go

653
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 2: off against. He has three touchdowns against man coverage this year,

654
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 2: which is second on on the Vikings so yeah, I

655
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 2: think I think Osborne is a good bet to uh

656
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 2: to find the end zone.

657
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 1: Good point and his target chair jumps up two when

658
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 1: facing the Blutz. So there's just a lot of a

659
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 1: lot of reasons.

660
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 2: Like in this year, I'm also hiring Marquise Goodwin. Uh,

661
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 2: he should be subbing in for Tyra Lockett in a

662
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 2: game where the uh, the Seahawks are gonna have to

663
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 2: throw you a think because they're playing the Chiefs, so

664
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 2: you know they don't really have I mean, they're gonna

665
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 2: have treadwell elevated. They'll have Derek Young and Penny Hart

666
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 2: behind DK Metcalf. So I think Marky's Goodwin could see

667
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 2: Tyra Lockett like snaps you know, ninety percent plus and

668
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 2: in a matchup where again Gino's like, you're you're talking

669
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 2: about a guy who put what eight touchdowns this year

670
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 2: and pretty much every weekend week out was just one

671
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 2: of Gino's top targets with five and a half five

672
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 2: point six catches sixty nine yards per game they're missing

673
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 2: with Tyra Lockett and then eight touchdowns in those in

674
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 2: those fourteen games. So I think Marky's Goodwin maybe not

675
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 2: the touchdowns, but I think he's a good bet to

676
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 2: get a decent amount of catches in yardage kind of

677
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 2: out of necessity for the for the Seattle Seahawks.

678
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I love that call, especially if if you're

679
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 1: like a big underdog, you know, roll the dice on

680
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 1: good one. He just has a massive ceiling in this matchup,

681
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 1: and it's it's really hard to sort out how they're

682
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 1: going to handle the wide receiver three option. I mean

683
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 1: you threw their names out like it just it's gonna

684
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 1: be more targets for Goodwin. They have that three headed

685
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 1: tight end monster. They're just fighting for targets. So just

686
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 1: the Good one. You know, he's a low floor option obviously,

687
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 1: but his ceiling in this spot with lock it out

688
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 1: is just massive. And Kenneth Walker's banged up again. He like,

689
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 1: what's up with that? Like, if he's out, they could

690
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 1: have to throw even more.

691
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not projecting Walker out as of now, but yeah,

692
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 2: that is a good point. That would that would raise

693
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 2: Gino's touchdown projection because Kenethy Walker scores so many touchdowns. Yeah,

694
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 2: all right, who are you low on?

695
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 1: So I'm below on Johan Dotson. You know, again, this

696
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 1: is a tough matchup against forty nine ers, So he's

697
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,919
Speaker 1: my wide receiver fifty four. Consettsus is you know, wide

698
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,800
Speaker 1: receiver forty two, and you know he continues to be

699
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 1: a touchdown machine, scoring again yet again last week. He

700
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,799
Speaker 1: also cleared one hundred yards for the first time, four

701
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 1: catches for one hundred and five yards and a touchdown. However,

702
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,720
Speaker 1: he just has a low four especially in this matchup

703
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 1: against San Francisco. He's, you know, a player with a

704
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:58,760
Speaker 1: very high aid dot. I think it's like over sixteen

705
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 1: right now. So he just has a wide range of outcome.

706
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 1: So if you're a big underdog and you want to

707
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 1: tap into his upside, go for it. But if you're

708
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 1: in a must win game like you have to be careful.

709
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,879
Speaker 1: He does have you know, a two catch, thirty yard

710
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 1: no touchdown floor. And like I said earlier with Brian Robinson,

711
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 1: Washington has the fifth lowest team toll this week. So

712
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,879
Speaker 1: a player that has relied on touchdowns up until last

713
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 1: week pretty heavy this season. You know, his odds of

714
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 1: scoring a touchdown this week are lower, So I would

715
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 1: just be careful with him. He's being ranked in that

716
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 1: wide receiver four range, but I consider him more of

717
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 1: a wide receiver five option. And then next week against Cleveland. Sure,

718
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,359
Speaker 1: you know, maybe he's in that wide receiver three wide

719
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,439
Speaker 1: receiver floor range, but I'm low on him this week.

720
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 1: And then I'm low on Amari Cooper and Chris o'lave here.

721
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 1: I have them both, you know, wide receiver thirty six

722
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 1: thirty seven respectively, and then the consensus is wide receiver

723
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 1: twenty four and twenty three. I'm getting ahead of the

724
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,879
Speaker 1: potential heavy snow again this week we go, and yeah,

725
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 1: here we go. I'm more just preparing people, you know,

726
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,320
Speaker 1: putting the sandbags up, getting ready for this. I actually,

727
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 1: once we got closer to kickoff with Buffalo Miami, it

728
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 1: looked like, you know, it was gonna be pretty clear

729
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 1: for most of the game, so I bumped everybody up

730
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 1: except for two unfortunately. But this game does look like

731
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:20,879
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a snowball. The totals down to thirty

732
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:24,320
Speaker 1: one and a half here, so you know, Cooper and

733
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 1: lave would certainly be impacted by that. So they're going

734
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,319
Speaker 1: to be on that you know, wide receiver three, wide

735
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 1: receiver CUSP at least, So just start preparing for it.

736
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,320
Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying is like they might, you know,

737
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 1: get a pretty big downgrade here, So just if you're

738
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 1: relying on them, look for our alternative options. We might

739
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 1: still end up playing them this week, but we're gonna

740
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 1: have to wait and see how this forecast shapes up.

741
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 2: Okay, what did you say? You're having thirty two to thirty.

742
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,320
Speaker 1: Three, thirty six and thirty seven. I really brought it.

743
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 1: I'm just anticipating. It's all about the total. Like like

744
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 1: I said last week, I had the total for that

745
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,080
Speaker 1: Bills game at like fifty one and a half. So

746
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,319
Speaker 1: when the total is forty one and a half or whatever,

747
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 1: like that's a that's a pretty big impact. And certainly

748
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: you can make the case the snow overs that sort

749
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,800
Speaker 1: of thing. But this game, you know, I have the

750
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 1: projected toll around forty three and a half. So the

751
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 1: fact that the markets already at thirty one and a half,

752
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 1: like having it that low, I just think that it

753
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 1: seems like a lock we're gonna see not like snow,

754
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 1: but the win. That's win important.

755
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 2: It's like twenty five the forecast twenty five mile per

756
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 2: hour plus wins.

757
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 1: I saw gusts of.

758
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 2: Forty five yeah, yeah, yeah, and that that could just

759
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 2: think the Raiders and Browns had a game in that

760
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 2: kind of weather, no snow or anything, but it was

761
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 2: a couple of years ago, but it was yeah, it

762
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 2: ended like thirteen six or something silly like, yeah, no

763
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 2: one could kick a field goal and it was just yeah, yeah.

764
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: So that's that's one of the many reasons why I

765
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: think Cooper and especially a lave, you know, he relies

766
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 1: on those deep balls. You just have to start preparing

767
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 1: that they might not be viable.

768
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 2: This week, Yeah, I have thirty one and thirty three

769
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,439
Speaker 2: Cooper thirty one, a while thirty three. So I'm still

770
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 2: lower than consensus, not quite that well, but yeah, the

771
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 2: total is really impacting. They're not getting much touchdown love

772
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 2: and the total of thirty one. I am low on

773
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,800
Speaker 2: Jacoby Myers this week. First of all, we don't know

774
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 2: what the reaction they're gonna be for making the worst

775
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 2: play in NFL his three. But also, you know, look

776
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 2: at his first eight games played, he ran a route

777
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,919
Speaker 2: on ninety three percent of the dropbacks, and the last

778
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 2: three he has dropped to fifty seven percent. Now, he

779
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 2: has had some injuries, kind of been in and out

780
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 2: of some games, but last week. He came back and

781
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 2: he was healthy as far as we know, and he

782
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:44,320
Speaker 2: ran only seventy percent around on seventy percent of the dropbacks,

783
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 2: and he operated as the wide receiver three like he

784
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 2: was behind Thornton and Agalar who played almost every snap.

785
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 2: So going forward, and there was another game a couple

786
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 2: of weeks ago when all five of their top receivers

787
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 2: were healthy and Myers was around sixty percent routes run.

788
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 2: So you know, I don't think we can trust him

789
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 2: as this guy that's gonna just be this, you know,

790
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 2: go to guy for the Patriots anymore, because it's just

791
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 2: they're just kind of doing that thing where they, you know,

792
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 2: every week, it's like something different and you never really

793
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 2: know who's gonna be the guy that they want to

794
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 2: give a bunch of snaps to. So, especially after what

795
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 2: happened last week, he is he is way way down

796
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 2: for me at a wide receiver fifty six, and consensus

797
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 2: is still wide receiver thirty nine. I think I think

798
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 2: that's too high, and I totally agree with Dots, and

799
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 2: I think that's a great call. He's much better against

800
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:38,800
Speaker 2: man coverage. I remember I said and convinced me I

801
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 2: liked him for any time touchdown because he had he

802
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 2: had four touchdowns on ten targets heading into that game

803
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 2: and against man coverage, and he got another one. But

804
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,800
Speaker 2: San Francisco plays zone at the sixth highest rate, and

805
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 2: San Francisco is, you know, number five in past defense

806
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 2: the Giants are twenty four and Datson against man like

807
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 2: against zone coverage defenses just zero point eight yards per

808
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 2: route one point seven. I think you mentioned it against man,

809
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 2: so like that's almost a yard per route drop off.

810
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 2: So I think his floor is probably even lower than

811
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 2: two catches thirty yards, like no catches, yes, exactly. So yeah,

812
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 2: it's like I think last week was the week to

813
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 2: be on him, and I think now people are kind of,

814
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 2: you know, it's a rookie. Oh it's the end of

815
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 2: the year. Yes, he's trended up, but he's kind of

816
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 2: everything we've seen from him. This is not the kind

817
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 2: of matchup that that he tends to have success in.

818
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, good call on Myers. I mean they even before

819
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 1: the fumble, he didn't play in two wide receiver sets

820
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 1: usually he does. It was Taekwon Thornton, which is surprising.

821
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:43,439
Speaker 1: So yeah, you know, Belichick, you know guy who's getting

822
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 1: the doghouse for just fumbling the ball? I wonder what

823
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 1: kind of doghouse he's in for later rolling it back

824
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:52,360
Speaker 1: for twenty yards to lose the game. But was that

825
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:53,959
Speaker 1: minus four points for fans?

826
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,439
Speaker 2: Yeah? Minus yeah? I think it was minus twenty Yeah,

827
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 2: minus twenty rushing yards in a fumble.

828
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:01,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, good lord. So yeah, I have below on him

829
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 1: as well. But that was That was the play of

830
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,760
Speaker 1: the week in my opinion. Just a lots of dissect

831
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 1: with that, Like I was on Twitter, was trying to

832
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 1: figure out whose fault was it was it Stevenson for

833
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 1: just like starting the whole sequence of events, you know,

834
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:18,359
Speaker 1: Myers for just the worst play, and then just mac

835
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:22,439
Speaker 1: Jones no effort. I don't think we can really count

836
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 1: on him to tackle Chandler Jones, but at least put

837
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 1: up some effort. He, just like.

838
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 2: Matt Jones, definitely takes the least blame because number one,

839
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 2: he was probably shell shocked that Myers was strong as

840
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 2: fast to him. And number two, the minute like because

841
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 2: it was the past is supposed to go to him

842
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 2: but it didn't. Then he's got to like locate them.

843
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 2: Oh well, it's going right to Chad with Jones in

844
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 2: a minute. Jones called it he just stiff farmed and

845
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:46,320
Speaker 2: like not even really you could do about that. I

846
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 2: think Stevenson and Myers share Blaine like Stevenson shouldn't have

847
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 2: been laddering it, but Myers like he ran backwards first

848
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 2: of all. I like even, like, why you haven't seeing

849
00:41:58,719 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 2: mac Jones run?

850
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 1: Like that's what was gonna happen if you throw it

851
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 1: now the ball is now twenty yards behind you and

852
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 1: Mac Jones now has to juke out Chandler Jones, Like

853
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 1: where was he going with that? It was just you know,

854
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 1: spur of the moment, he took ownership of it. But

855
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 1: still just crazy, just crazy. Yeah. Uh, let's see what

856
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 1: do you got for the prop man? A lot to

857
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 1: choose from.

858
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 2: I know, go with z Jones. Oh but he's going

859
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 2: against That's tough match up.

860
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 1: Nice favorite.

861
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know you got to make the decision

862
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 2: to start sit decision on him pretty quick this week

863
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 2: because it's a Thursday night game. Another team of the

864
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:44,319
Speaker 2: wold team total of the Jaguars. So I'm gonna put

865
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 2: his receiving yardage at five and a half.

866
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 1: Holy shit, So I have him at fifty five I'm

867
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 1: always interested in investing m Z Jones specifically as overs. Okay,

868
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 1: but his meeting is gonna be lower because I have

869
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 1: this projection at fifty five, so I'll go under here.

870
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 1: But that's that's a good line. You know, he is

871
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 1: going to have the tougher matchup on the outside here.

872
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:18,839
Speaker 1: I think this could be a sneaky Christian Kirk game. Yeah,

873
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: so he'll probably line up against Sauce half the time

874
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 1: and DJ Read half the time. So that's that's a

875
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 1: tough matchup. And you know, I'm I'm projecting Lawrence for

876
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:30,839
Speaker 1: closer to two forty passing cards. I think you said

877
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 1: you're right there too, right, Yeah, it looks like the

878
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 1: initial market the sportsbooks have Lawrence at two twenty five.

879
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 1: Whoa or even they're even lower. So yeah, I'll just

880
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 1: go the under here.

881
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 2: Yeah that I mean, I'm not trying.

882
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 1: I thought it's probably too I'm not going to lower

883
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 1: it just because.

884
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 2: The sports book have it there. But that is that

885
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 2: is quite interesting that, you know, I don't know that

886
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 2: the sportsbooks passing props have been all over the places.

887
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 1: I was gonna say it almost.

888
00:43:58,320 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 2: Is more too things to look at them early in

889
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 2: the to just and then you're like, wait, what's going

890
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 2: on here? But I know that's that's that's quite interesting.

891
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 2: I mean it's it is a Thursday game and it's

892
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,800
Speaker 2: already you know, recording this on a Tuesday, so that

893
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 2: you know, that's some like that's somewhat a sharp line,

894
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:16,399
Speaker 2: I guess because it's it's out two days what forty

895
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 2: eight hours to game time or something. So yep, yeah,

896
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 2: that's uh, that's interesting. Maybe got a bump Evan Ingram

897
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:28,800
Speaker 2: down too, jeez, okay, tight end hop five.

898
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 1: Uh, pretty straightforward this week. I got Travis Kelcey, Mark

899
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 1: Andrews back to number two slot, t J Hockinson, George Kittle,

900
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 1: and Dalton Schultz.

901
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 2: Yeah I got I'm swapping a Hockinson and Andrews. I

902
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 2: got Kelsey, Hockins and Andrews. And that was Schultzan Kittle,

903
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 2: just because I still I know Schultz, you know, had

904
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 2: the quiet game, but he's running a route like no,

905
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 2: closer to ninety percent of the time these days, and

906
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 2: I still like him. You know, going against Philly still

907
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 2: could be a high scoring game against the Eagles, where

908
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 2: whereas like Kittle, he had the big game last week,

909
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 2: and I feel like everyone's kind of chasing it now

910
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 2: against Seattle. Like Seattle's defense is not very good, especially

911
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 2: when you're not talking about like Toy Woolin at that

912
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 2: corner spot, and Washington, if I'm not mistaken, is very

913
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 2: Let's see. Yeah, they're number three against tight ends and

914
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 2: DVOA and they are allowing the fewest schedule adjusted yards

915
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,919
Speaker 2: per game the tight ends thirty point eight. So yeah,

916
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 2: that that's I'm gonna I think that's why i'mnna have

917
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 2: Kittle five. Probably. I think he's consensus three, so I'll

918
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,799
Speaker 2: probably be a couple of spots lower on him this week.

919
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 2: All right, who are you high on?

920
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 1: I'm high on Dawson Knox this week. You know, he's

921
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 1: always in the sit start fringe, so I do like

922
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 1: pointing him out if I'm high or low on him.

923
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 1: But let's see his routes run rate the past three

924
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 1: weeks have been.

925
00:45:58,000 --> 00:45:59,399
Speaker 2: Eighty ninety four, eighty nine.

926
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 1: Yep, there you go.

927
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 2: So he's averaging eighty eight percent.

928
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's averaging eighty eight percent the passer games, plus

929
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 1: the past two games he's actually seen the highest targets

930
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 1: per route run rate, So you know, he's just been

931
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 1: cashing in and he's always going to have you know,

932
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 1: top ten in terms of touchdown onds. But that was

933
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 1: a pretty good bet to get three to four catches too.

934
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 1: So he does have like a sneaky high floor ceiling combos.

935
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 1: So he's my tight end eighth this week against his

936
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:32,479
Speaker 1: bad Bears defense, and the consensus is tight end sixteen maybe.

937
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 2: So I was gonna ask, like, do you mentioned like

938
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 2: his last three weeks and do you also kind of

939
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 2: wait the last three weeks heavy year for tight end

940
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 2: like in terms.

941
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 1: Of when it comes to routes run Yeah, yeah, absolutely,

942
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 1: Well I look at the context. You know, sometimes if

943
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,319
Speaker 1: the team's trailing or leading, you know, they can use

944
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 1: more or less two tight ends that's or things like that,

945
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:54,360
Speaker 1: but knots. It's pretty straightforward. So yeah, I'm looking at

946
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:58,840
Speaker 1: that pretty heavily. And whenever he is averaging, you know,

947
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,359
Speaker 1: over an eighty five percent at routes run rate, I'm

948
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 1: more interested. I had a couple of games previously where

949
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 1: he was run the seventy five percent range, But more importantly,

950
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 1: it's just the targets he's seeing on them. And so

951
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 1: back to back weeks with a pretty significant target share

952
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 1: that's why you know, my target rate from is a

953
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 1: bit higher. And with him, that's that's what it comes

954
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:22,799
Speaker 1: down to. Like I said, sometimes he could be sort

955
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 1: of a touchdown dependent tight end, but if we can

956
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 1: ever get him up around three and a half receptions,

957
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 1: that's when I really like him.

958
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I'm just asking because, like three is that

959
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 2: was kind of that magic number for me. Two With

960
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 2: tight ends, you know, when you start to see three

961
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 2: games of certain usage, that's when you that's when the

962
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 2: projection starts to change running backs a little shorter, wide

963
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 2: receivers a little longer. But for me, I mean I

964
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 2: already mentioned him.

965
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:47,320
Speaker 1: T J.

966
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 2: Hockinson, I have tight end too. This week, the Giants

967
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 2: are dead last and DVOA against tight ends, and Hockinson's

968
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 2: route participation has been right up there at eighty nine

969
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 2: percent last three games as well, So you know, I

970
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 2: think Hockinson should have a bounce back spot here. And uh,

971
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 2: it's again this Giants defense, man, it's it's it's it.

972
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 2: They get stops on third down in the red zone,

973
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 2: but they've been really bad against the tight end position.

974
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 2: Washington for some reason didn't really I mean, Logan Thomas,

975
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:17,319
Speaker 2: I guess it's been a ghost. I don't know what's

976
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 2: really going on with him, but I do think Minnesota

977
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:24,879
Speaker 2: is going to to go to Howkinson this week after

978
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:27,320
Speaker 2: he was the guy that kind of had the you know,

979
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 2: the quiet game. Out of all those guys, three of

980
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 2: nine targets for just thirty three yards. So he's due

981
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:33,959
Speaker 2: for he's due for a bounce back. But he's seeing

982
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 2: massive usage. I mean since he came to Minnesota nine targets,

983
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 2: ten targets, nine targets, six targets, six targets, eight nine targets.

984
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 2: Last week was actually the first time he failed to

985
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 2: catch at least four passes as a Viking. So yeah,

986
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:48,879
Speaker 2: I think he's a good in a good bounce back spot.

987
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, which is incredible considering Cousins through for four hundred

988
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 1: and sixty yards.

989
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 2: Yep.

990
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 1: So, like I said, we can't count on kJ Osborne

991
00:48:57,239 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 1: to go ten for one fifty seven every week going forward.

992
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 1: So a lot of those targets that he's giving up

993
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 1: are probably going Hawkins in his way.

994
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,479
Speaker 2: Yep. Nope, all right, who are you going?

995
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 1: Uh, I'm a low one, David Joku, you know he's

996
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 1: my tight end. Fifteen The consensus is tight end six.

997
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 1: Half of this is again getting ahead of this potentially

998
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 1: heavy snow and heavy win game. Like I said, the

999
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 1: total is only thirty one and a half, soose touchdown

1000
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:25,320
Speaker 1: odds are lower. But also this is one of the

1001
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:27,840
Speaker 1: tougher matchups for tight ends. You know, they face the Saints.

1002
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:32,360
Speaker 1: They ranked second and DBA against tight ends on the season,

1003
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 1: so you know that's just enough to knock him outside

1004
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 1: of the top twelve for me. And honestly, this, you know,

1005
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:41,280
Speaker 1: tight end seven to tight end fifteen range is separated

1006
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 1: by less than a point, so just the subtlest tiniest

1007
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 1: details can really shoot a guy down the ranking. So Joku,

1008
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 1: he's facing enough uphill battle this week, so I know

1009
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 1: he's I've been high on him, I think on the

1010
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 1: show in the past two weeks. But this week, you know,

1011
00:49:57,160 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 1: you got probably planned for somebody else, look for aaming

1012
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 1: options because it could be nasty there and it's a

1013
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 1: tough matchup. So he's sort of a you know, a

1014
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 1: mid range tight end two for me this week.

1015
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:11,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's gonna be. That's to set that matchup.

1016
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:16,479
Speaker 2: I'm I'm all on Juwan Johnson and that's so nice.

1017
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 2: I mean listen, this guy, he's gonna every what's gonna happen.

1018
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 2: He's gonna catch touchdowns and then people are gonna chase,

1019
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 2: and it's yeah, the floor is just so low because

1020
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 2: if you're projecting and to only catch about two passes

1021
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:32,359
Speaker 2: the game, two to maybe three, and you know, if

1022
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 2: he doesn't get a touchdown, you're kind of out of luck.

1023
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 2: So I have him for two and a half catches

1024
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 2: twenty seven yards. But as you mentioned, you know touchdown

1025
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 2: odds for everyone in this gamer. Well, so I have

1026
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 2: him about just about point two touchdowns, so not a

1027
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 2: very high chance of getting a touchdown. I think, Yeah,

1028
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 2: Andy Dalton, I only have him passing for about one

1029
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,320
Speaker 2: touchdown in this game, you know.

1030
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 1: I mean, if you have a Taysom Hill throwning for it, then.

1031
00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 2: One touchdown. I can't zero point one or something or

1032
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 2: point oh five. But yeah, it's you know, Juwan Johnson,

1033
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:08,319
Speaker 2: I think he's running around about sixty to seventy percent

1034
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 2: of the time, so it's not quite high enough. I

1035
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 2: think to just kind of blindly bet, like I'd rather

1036
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 2: bet on a touchdown a guy like Dawson Knox, who,

1037
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 2: as you mention, is running around you know eighty to

1038
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 2: ninety percent of the time, and you know that game

1039
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:23,919
Speaker 2: is you know, should be the weather shouldn't be as bad.

1040
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:26,800
Speaker 2: I know it's still outdoors, but uh yeah, you know

1041
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 2: this one's just everyone. I mean Taysom Hill even I

1042
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:31,839
Speaker 2: got him tight in eighteen, so I'm low on him.

1043
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:34,800
Speaker 2: I know he could run more. But you know, just

1044
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:37,840
Speaker 2: when a total is thirty one, let's see, what is

1045
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:38,760
Speaker 2: that projected score?

1046
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 1: That is like.

1047
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:45,319
Speaker 2: Seventeen fourteen I think is the projective score for that game.

1048
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 2: So yeah, seventeen fourteen is a projected score for that game.

1049
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 2: And that's like you that score happens in real life

1050
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,400
Speaker 2: a lot, but you hardly pretty much never see a

1051
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 2: total that way. He's not in not like two thousand

1052
00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 2: or in the nineties or something. So yeah, I would

1053
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:05,319
Speaker 2: be careful with all these saints. Anne browns, Uh, all right,

1054
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 2: what are we doing for the prop?

1055
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:11,840
Speaker 1: So I was I was deciding between Pat Friarmouth and

1056
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 1: Darren Waller, So I'm just going with both. I think

1057
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 1: it's very important to talk about these guys. So my

1058
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 1: prop is Pat Friarmouth minus four and a half receiving

1059
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 1: yards against Darren Waller.

1060
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 2: Uh. Fine, with minus four and a half, as in,

1061
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:34,359
Speaker 2: he's favor four and a half yards.

1062
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, and where do you have them ranked? I think

1063
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 1: that's the most important part of this discussion.

1064
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:44,799
Speaker 2: I have still at seven because his I know he's

1065
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 2: go goose egg. Last week he was injury report. He

1066
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 2: was on the injury report, he still had his normal

1067
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:55,440
Speaker 2: route participation, so I can't really bump him down too

1068
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:59,399
Speaker 2: much how I have, So I have him seventh. Still

1069
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:05,360
Speaker 2: I have Waller twelve, which is lower than consensus. I

1070
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,840
Speaker 2: I just don't like he he ran a route sixty

1071
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:11,279
Speaker 2: nine percent of the sixty six percent of the time

1072
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 2: last week. Uh season averages sixty nine, his medium seventy five.

1073
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:18,799
Speaker 2: But you know, I don't know if he's gonna if

1074
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 2: that was just easing him in or they're kind of

1075
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 2: treat you know, gonna treat him with a little more

1076
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:24,479
Speaker 2: kid glove. So I'd like to see his routes bump

1077
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 2: up a little bit more before I just blindly project

1078
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 2: him for like, you know, twenty percent higher than than

1079
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 2: he was the week before. So yeah, I have But

1080
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 2: that all that to say, I still have Waller only

1081
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 2: two yards behind it.

1082
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 1: Oh, okay, and where did you have a Waller.

1083
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 2: Uh seven twelve. Seven for five was twelve for Waller.

1084
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 2: Consensus is six for Waller.

1085
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 1: So that's that's so crazy. Yeah, that so that was

1086
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:52,800
Speaker 1: a similar process for me. I have Waller tight end fourteen.

1087
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:55,360
Speaker 1: He is just right on that cusp. I'm just worried

1088
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:57,360
Speaker 1: people are just gonna assume, Yeah, like you said, like

1089
00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 1: he's gonna go up to eighty percent routes run rate

1090
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 1: and be a top five tight end. We don't really know.

1091
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:04,800
Speaker 1: So certainly, you know, if you want to bank on

1092
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 1: Waller's ceiling, like we did see him have a good

1093
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:10,320
Speaker 1: game last week, but based on his usage, you know,

1094
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:11,839
Speaker 1: it was more of a high end tight end two

1095
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 1: kind of usage. DeVante ams could have a bounce back

1096
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:17,360
Speaker 1: in here. So there's a lot of reasons not tay Waller.

1097
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 1: But also going back to fire Meth, the Goose Egg

1098
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:23,239
Speaker 1: was kind of a bizarre st outline because, like you said,

1099
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 1: he had a seventy four percent routes run rate, but

1100
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 1: the previous two games he was hovering on fifty six

1101
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:32,320
Speaker 1: percent routes run and they've been using Zach Gentry and

1102
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 1: Connor Hayward in early down like eleven personnel, I don't

1103
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 1: know why what they're doing, but that's what's been going on.

1104
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:41,400
Speaker 1: Who knows if it was injury laid or something, but

1105
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 1: he was able to see enough targets to make up

1106
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 1: for it. And then last week he went back to

1107
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 1: seeing you know, a higher run rate. But then so

1108
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:53,759
Speaker 1: he has just been a bizarre mystery and projecting. So

1109
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:56,839
Speaker 1: both of these guys are really tricky to project at

1110
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:58,440
Speaker 1: the end of the day. Check our end of the

1111
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 1: end of the week rankings for these guys because they

1112
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:03,240
Speaker 1: could go up or down based on how we update.

1113
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 1: But just initially they seem really tough to trust, you know,

1114
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:08,320
Speaker 1: in the fancy playoffs.

1115
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:11,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know the issue and remember well, I

1116
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:13,279
Speaker 2: mean both of these guys really, but especially Waller. I

1117
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 2: mean the Raiders team total is like eighteen and so

1118
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:19,920
Speaker 2: you know, like Waller, he remember he had that stretch

1119
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:22,320
Speaker 2: most of his career actually hasn't been a great touchdown score,

1120
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,239
Speaker 2: so you know, it's been volume. So is he gonna

1121
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:27,319
Speaker 2: be a volume guy with DeVante Adams on the team,

1122
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:30,919
Speaker 2: I don't know. So, yeah, it's tough. And then yeah,

1123
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 2: Friar Mooth, I mean you got Deontay, you got pickings there,

1124
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:36,800
Speaker 2: So you don't need friv with every game, especially Pittsburgh's

1125
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:39,320
Speaker 2: running the ball better, they're playing better, They're just in

1126
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 2: these low scoring games.

1127
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 1: Now.

1128
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 2: Uh so I do get it, but it's like, who

1129
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 2: are you who are you gonna put like put above

1130
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:48,759
Speaker 2: them at this point, Like it's like, you know, it's

1131
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 2: like outside of Taysom touchdown on the lower So I

1132
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:57,600
Speaker 2: think you probably have to in a twelve teen league,

1133
00:55:57,640 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 2: you probably have to start both of them guys if

1134
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:02,360
Speaker 2: you wake either one. If you have them in a

1135
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:04,880
Speaker 2: ten team league, you know, maybe you know, Waller's a

1136
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 2: little diceier, but yeah, I get your points.

1137
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:11,719
Speaker 1: And even Goddard like who knows, Yeah, how many routes.

1138
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:12,879
Speaker 1: Just it's a tough week.

1139
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have them like yet, I think twelve or thirteen.

1140
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 2: Let's see what I have. Oh no, I have him

1141
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 2: sixteen right now. But that's because I still have them

1142
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 2: like questionable. I'll bump them up away.

1143
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:26,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, no more later in the week. But all

1144
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 1: these guys, man, just anybody who drafts the Travis Kelce

1145
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 1: is sitting pretty I bet.

1146
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:33,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, because Mark Andrews is kind of struggling too.

1147
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 1: So it's just everybody just behind Travis Kelce. This season

1148
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:41,720
Speaker 1: has just been just chaos in a bad way.

1149
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 2: In a very bad way. All right. That is good.

1150
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:49,920
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00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:54,000
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