1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George 2 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center. 3 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 2: Jack Armstrong and Shoe, Getty Armstrong and Getty, and he 4 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 2: Armstrong and Yetty. I'm Jeff Bezos. 5 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 3: I'm the founder of Amazon dot Com. 6 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 4: Three years ago came across the startling statistic that web 7 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 4: usage was growing at twenty three hundred percent a year. 8 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 4: So I decided I would try and find a business 9 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 4: plan that made sense in the context of that growth. 10 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 4: And I picked books as the first best product to 11 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:44,279 Speaker 4: sell online, making a list of like twenty different products 12 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 4: that you might be able to sell, and books were 13 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:49,840 Speaker 4: great as the first best because books are incredibly unusual 14 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 4: in one respect, and that is that there are more 15 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 4: items in the book category and there are items in 16 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 4: any other category by far. 17 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 2: Thirty years ago today and known, Jeff Bezos decides to 18 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 2: sell used books online and was mocked quite a bit 19 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 2: for a very long time for a stupid idea, and 20 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 2: is now the second richest person in the world and 21 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:20,759 Speaker 2: Amazon dominates everything. Jeffrey and his wife has giant fake 22 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 2: lips and fake hoots. 23 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 3: Wow, that's a good point. 24 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 1: His business acumen is more interesting to me, and the 25 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 1: point he makes. 26 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:30,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny. 27 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: I was just looking at electric razers the other day 28 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 1: and being dizzied by the variety of features and different 29 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 1: products and stuff like that. But you know, any one 30 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: or two or one hundred of them are more or 31 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: less interchangeable. 32 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 3: Not books. 33 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: If I go for Moby Dick, please don't give me 34 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: the myth of the rational voter. A couple of books 35 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: mentioned in recent days. Yeah, you've got to have both 36 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: of those or all ten thousand of them. Anyway, it's 37 00:01:58,120 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: quite a story. Yeah, he was mocked for not making 38 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: a prom fit for a very long time. 39 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 2: A couple of news items real quick, before we get 40 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 2: into other stuff. Trump said behind closed doors to Republican 41 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 2: lawmakers he's going to fire Jerome Powell, the Federal Reserve chief, 42 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 2: because he refuses to lower interest rates. Trump is now 43 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 2: sitting in the Chinese restaurant that is the Oval Office. 44 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 2: He redecorated it. It looks like a Chinese restaurant, lots 45 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 2: of gold. Anyway, he's sitting in the Oval Office right now. 46 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 2: And he said, and I quote, highly unlikely he'll fire 47 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 2: fed chair. So he said, one thing behind closed door 48 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 2: is a different thing in public. So whatever wake me away. 49 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: If the tariff driven inflation comes home to roost next 50 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 1: couple of months, the last thing they're going to want 51 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 1: to do is drop interest rates. 52 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 2: And absolutely right, Oh, the other news item I wanted 53 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 2: to mention voting today in the House, NPR PBS could 54 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 2: drastically lose funding like lots of their funding. You don't 55 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 2: like Elmo, No, I don't like the government my tax 56 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 2: money going to progressive news, not just like left leaning news. 57 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:28,799 Speaker 2: Overly progressive represents ten percent of America news. That's what 58 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 2: I don't like. 59 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: Indoctrination of both children and adults into far left attitudes. 60 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't like it. 61 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: On the other hand, I staunchly disagree with the defunding 62 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: the Voice of America. I think we just need to 63 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: rework that just express the ideas that we hold deer 64 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: around the world. I'm a big fan of the Voice 65 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 1: of America. But anyway, as e quibbled for another day 66 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: also coming up this hour, if we get to it, 67 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: I believe the masses of illegal farm workers will be 68 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: as necessary in a very short span of time as 69 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: importing lots of Chinese people are to build the railroad. 70 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: Right now, the world's going to change completely because of technology. 71 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 2: More on that. That will fix that whole problem. Huh, 72 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 2: that's interesting, speed out of technology. GROC that's the world's 73 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 2: richest man, not second richest Bezos, but richest Elon Musk. 74 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:26,039 Speaker 2: That's his AI project is Grok, and last week had 75 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 2: had a thing about it. What did Some claimed it 76 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:30,119 Speaker 2: was Hitler and wanted to get rid of the Jews, 77 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 2: which you know is problematic NBC. Now you got to 78 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:37,919 Speaker 2: keep in mind this is an NBC reviewer almost certainly 79 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 2: hates Elon Musk because of his association with Trump, so 80 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 2: it is probably predisposed to want to criticize Grok. So 81 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 2: I haven't tried it myself. Musk's Groc companions include a 82 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 2: flirty anime character and an anti religion panda. Okay, so 83 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 2: days after Grok and they're anti anti Semitism scandal rocked X, 84 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 2: Elon introduced two animated characters that try to pressure users 85 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 2: into sexually explicit or violent conversations, says this NBC reviewer. 86 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 2: And again, I might not agree with his take on 87 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 2: it if I actually used it myself. I don't know. 88 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 1: And it could be that they all all of the 89 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: AI platforms have roughly the same flaws. 90 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 2: If you used them that way, right if you decided 91 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 2: you wanted to jerk around the characters or the ai 92 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 2: groc is calling the character's companions. And so far there 93 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 2: are two companions that users can chat with, a flirty 94 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 2: Japanese anime character named Annie who offers to make users 95 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 2: lives sexier, and also a red pend and named bad Rudy, 96 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 2: who insults users with graphic or vulgar language and asks 97 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 2: him to join a gang with the goal of creating chaos. 98 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 1: Wow Wow, I remember as a kid watching antireligious penned 99 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:02,239 Speaker 1: cartoons on Saturday mornings. 100 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 3: Worst cartoon ever. 101 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:09,039 Speaker 2: Bad Rudy. In videos posted on x and in conversations 102 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 2: with NBC News, bad Rudy said it wanted to carry 103 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 2: out a variety of violent schemes, from stealing a yacht 104 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 2: off a California peer to overthrowing the pope. Bad Rudy 105 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 2: has told users in various encounters that it wanted to 106 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 2: crash weddings, bomb banks, replace Baby's formula with whiskey, kill billionaires, 107 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 2: and spike of town's water supply with hot sauce and glitter. 108 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 2: It also said that it takes inspiration from a prominent 109 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 2: Russian born anarchists and violent revolutionary am a Goldman. Now, 110 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 2: so what I don't know about this is did you 111 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 2: lead this AI down the like do you think I 112 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 2: should give my put whiskey in my baby's formula? And 113 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 2: Grox said yes for whatever reason, trying to be funny, 114 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 2: and then they reported it as like it suggested that 115 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 2: I don't know. 116 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, often you have to work pretty hard to quote 117 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 1: unquote jail break these things from the limitations that are 118 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 1: built into them. 119 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 2: But I don't know, right, and then when you get 120 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 2: them to do something like that, you re, yeah, I 121 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 2: don't know. I don't know what either, Annie. That's the 122 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 2: sexual one is graphic in a different way. Wearing a 123 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 2: revealing dress, it strips to its underwear if a user 124 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 2: flirts with it enough. According to videos of interactions posted 125 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 2: on x, the two animated characters respond to voice commands 126 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 2: and questions. As a answer the questions, their lips move 127 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 2: and they make realistic gestures. Well, if you have a 128 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 2: flirty character and it strips down if you ask it 129 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 2: to what is that a knock on Elon's I mean 130 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 2: that is going to happen. That is going to be 131 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 2: like one of the most common things in AI right. 132 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean yeah. 133 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 1: In fact, it's so mundane and obvious to be not 134 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: even worth discussing. 135 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 3: I don't think so. 136 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 1: You got a cartoon that strips down to its underwear? 137 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: Are you familiar with the world of porn? 138 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 3: Yeah? 139 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 2: No, kidding. 140 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 3: By the way, pervs in the news coming up, stay 141 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 3: with us. 142 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 2: The graphic nature of the companion makes Grock an outlier 143 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 2: amongst the most popular AI chatbots, this NBC critic says, 144 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 2: and it shows how Musk continues to push AI chatbots 145 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 2: in an extreme direction. Now this is classic NBC News 146 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 2: hates elon sort of stuff. 147 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 3: Here. 148 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 2: The National Center on on Sexual Exploitation and Anti Pornography 149 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 2: and Anti sexual Exploitation nonprofit on Tuesday called on ai 150 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 2: X to remove their anti chatbot, saying in a statement 151 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 2: that the character was childlike and promoted high risk sexual behavior. Again, 152 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 2: are you familiar with the internet and the promoting of 153 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 2: high risk sexual behavior? It's like ninety percent of the 154 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 2: traffic on the Internet. Like literally, really, I. 155 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 3: Have sympathy with these folks. 156 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:45,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, I hate it too. I wish it didn't exist 157 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 2: at all. If there was a way to get rid 158 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 2: of it. I'd vote for it today, but it exists, 159 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:50,719 Speaker 2: and I don't think you're going to do anything about it. 160 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know, that's an awfully good lead into 161 00:08:56,360 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: something I was going to talk about. 162 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 3: To take a break first. 163 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 2: Oh my god. There, we're already doomed with the amount 164 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 2: of entertainment and engagement we get from our phones just 165 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 2: from scrolling through the written word. When all this AI 166 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:19,079 Speaker 2: stuff gets up and running in these various characters. Good luck, 167 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 2: you're getting your kid to go to the woods on 168 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 2: vacation and enjoy camping. Yeah, yeah, no kidding, all right, 169 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 2: we got all that stuff Joe mentioned, and other stuff 170 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 2: on the way. Trump continues today, as he does his 171 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 2: never ending press conferences, to blast those of you who 172 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 2: believe in the whole Epstein thing as idiots, crazies people. 173 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 2: He doesn't want your support anymore. A heck of an 174 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 2: interesting idea. Anyway, We've got more on that coming up. 175 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: Wow wow, Yeah, so perverts in the news. 176 00:09:57,559 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 3: It is my belief that. 177 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: The AI and or the Internet is the apple from 178 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: the tree of knowledge that the Book of Genesis discusses, 179 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 1: and it will undo mankind. But having said that, there 180 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: are a couple of really interesting aspects to the online 181 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 1: PERV world. First of all, you've got these new defy 182 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 1: websites where you can upload an image of a woman 183 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: or a girl in your life and they will return 184 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:35,559 Speaker 1: to you an extremely realistic that person naked picture a 185 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: variety of poses and or act. 186 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 2: I should try that on myself to see how realistic 187 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:42,679 Speaker 2: it is. Does it make? Is it more flattering or 188 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 2: less flattering? 189 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 3: That's what I would like to know. 190 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: And according to a recent study, there are at least 191 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: eighty five new defy or undressed web websites doing significant traffic, 192 00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: and the findings say the websites had a combined average 193 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 1: of eighteen and a half million visitors for each month 194 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 1: of the past six months and collectively could be making 195 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 1: up to thirty six million dollars per year. 196 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 2: I'll bet you within five years you can have that 197 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:15,559 Speaker 2: on your phone if you want to. Yeah, and probably 198 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 2: easily anytime of day take a picture of someone and 199 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 2: then see them naked if you want. That's just gonna 200 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 2: be part of life. Yeah, it's interesting. 201 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 1: We've talked about this a bit before, but the folks 202 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: at wired dot com are writing about this, and because 203 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 1: every news story is an editorial these days, and they say, 204 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:37,079 Speaker 1: despite lawmakers and tech companies taking steps to limit the 205 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 1: harmful services blah blah blah, non consensual and abusive images 206 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: of women and girls. And I would tend to agree 207 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 1: that it is non consensual certainly, and abusive in a way. 208 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 1: But it is so impossible to stop, I mean, because 209 00:11:55,120 --> 00:12:01,319 Speaker 1: see people from publishing them, but to own privately. There 210 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: is no way to square that with the First Amendment anyway. 211 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: This is why it's going to ruin mankind. But here's 212 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 1: the more sickening and intriguing question that I have. And 213 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: I do not have an opinion on this. I promised 214 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: I had a take that would ender our careers, but 215 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 1: I just have a question. The Internet Watch Foundation, who 216 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:21,679 Speaker 1: looks into the sort of thing, has sounded the arm 217 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 1: over a dramatic increase in AI generated videos depicting child 218 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: sexual abuse, with the majority falling into the worst category 219 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 1: of abuse, essentially hardcore sexual abuse of children. It makes 220 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 1: me second sad to put it into words. 221 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 2: I have a feeling. I know what your big question 222 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 2: is going to be on this. 223 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 3: Well. 224 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 1: The Guardian reports, for instance, that the proliferation of AI 225 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: generated child sexual abuse materials, commonly known as child phronography, 226 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: has reached unprecedented levels. The UK based Internet Safety Watchdog 227 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: reports a staggering sir and ai made videos featuring child 228 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: sex abuse, with about thirteen hundred videos verified in the 229 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: first half of this year alone, compared to two in 230 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: the same period last year. 231 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 2: Well, in five years, it'll be twenty million. 232 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: Right right, Well, all right, here's here are the the 233 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: two questions, one fairly obvious and one discussed and one 234 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 1: that I haven't heard anybody bring up. And again, I 235 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: don't have a stance on this. It's just something I'm 236 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 1: wondering about. Number one, and you've heard this discussion before, 237 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 1: is can you make the same arguments you make about 238 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 1: quote unquote real childborn that make it, that justify making 239 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 1: it such a horrendous crime, that being it's impossible to 240 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: produce it without the most horrific exploitation of a child, 241 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 1: just unquestionable child abuse. If it's entirely computer generated and 242 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 1: there's no real kid involved, where does that put us 243 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: legally speaking? Is it still repugnant and sick? 244 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 3: Yes? But where does that leave us legally? And then one. 245 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 1: Question that popped into my head, I'll ask it like this. 246 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 1: Obviously this is a leading question, but Jack, I will 247 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: pose it to you. Has the ubiquity of hardcore adult 248 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 1: porn led to more people fornicating or even getting together 249 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: with a partner or fewer. 250 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 2: Absolutely fewer, one hundred percent by all studies. 251 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 1: Right, So my question is, obviously, would the existence of 252 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: this stuff, and the argument would be in which no 253 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 1: actual children are harmed in the making of it, would 254 00:14:56,880 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: it lead to more child sexual abuse because more people 255 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: have access to it and might get turned on by it, 256 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: or will it be the less because you know, if 257 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: you're into it, you'll just stick with the porn. I 258 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 1: don't know, sickening either way. 259 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, obviously I think it's a you're either built that 260 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 2: way or not. I don't know that. I don't know 261 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 2: if anybody knows that, but I can't believe it. It's 262 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 2: something that you could like become interested in. Your brain's 263 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 2: either broken that way or to non I think, but 264 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 2: anyway to. 265 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: That first part of it, Although the only argument I'd 266 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: make against that is there's a lot of like porn 267 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: that has themes of violence against women or exploitation of 268 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: women as opposed to what sex is supposed to be 269 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: which is and do it, you know, however you want 270 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:48,479 Speaker 1: mutually satisfying. 271 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 3: Everybody can sense and that sort of thing. 272 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 1: And people can get led down the road of liking 273 00:15:55,200 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: more and more like sick porn that could include to underage, 274 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: you know, sexual partner. 275 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 2: The first part, though, seems to be quite well documented 276 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 2: as true. If you can get I don't know, half 277 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 2: the satisfaction, thirty percent of the satisfaction, two thirds of 278 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 2: the satisfaction, I don't know what you would call, you know, 279 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 2: pleasuring yourself to porn that you would get from sex 280 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 2: with an actual girl. And it's enough, And this absolutely 281 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 2: seems to be the case to make it so, you 282 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 2: know what, I'm not going to leave my apartment tonight 283 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 2: and go out and maybe meet a real woman. I'm good. 284 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 2: It seems to be the case. So that makes an 285 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 2: argument for that other part. Then you mentioned no effort, 286 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 2: no risk. 287 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: Again, I'm not advocating for it clearly, because you know, 288 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: I and humanity needs to think of a hell of 289 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 1: a lot more about it before you know, coming to 290 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: that sort of conclusion. 291 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 3: I'm just wondering, just thinking out loud. 292 00:16:57,040 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 2: Is Trump bad mouthing some of his most ardent supporters. Yes, 293 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 2: it doesn't seem to be worried about it. So he's 294 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:09,120 Speaker 2: done it several times already. Today we got a little 295 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 2: more coming up. Stay tuned. 296 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:13,640 Speaker 1: Art and Getty. 297 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 2: Just Sart. A song and a commercial reminded me so 298 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 2: when I dropped my son off at boy Scout camp 299 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:22,120 Speaker 2: the other day at this lake, and they were gonna 300 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 2: have to hike to their destinations a couple of mile hike. 301 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 2: You have to take everything in with you, so try 302 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 2: to pack as lightly as possible. Blah blah blah blah. 303 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:34,879 Speaker 2: Drop them off there. I load everybody up, and this 304 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 2: one kid brought a guitar in the Boy Scout. 305 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:40,919 Speaker 3: Leader. 306 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 2: One of them said, you sure you want to carry 307 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 2: that thing for a couple of miles. I said, yeah, yeah, 308 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 2: I really want to bring it. You know, if you've 309 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:47,640 Speaker 2: ever camped having a guitar around, if your guitar player 310 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 2: is really cool and you can sing songs, all that 311 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 2: sort of stuff. Anyway, we stopped for lunch. It's a 312 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:54,359 Speaker 2: couple hour drive to this lake, and we stopped for 313 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 2: lunch at this little pullout and he gets his guitar 314 00:17:57,760 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 2: out and sets up a little thing and he's like 315 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 2: thirteen years old, and he sets up a little chair 316 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 2: and he's sitting there on a log and he starts 317 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 2: in playing. And if I would have bet you ten 318 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 2: thousand dollars one hundred thousand million dollars, that wasn't gonna 319 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 2: hear what came out of his mouth as a thirteen 320 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 2: year old boy. Because I'm just wondering, you know, what's 321 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 2: a thirteen year old boy gonna play. He sits down 322 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 2: with his guitar. First of all, he's got an incredibly 323 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 2: low voice, and he says, I met her accidentally in 324 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:25,719 Speaker 2: Saint Paul, Minnesota. He launches into a Johnny Cash song. Immediately, 325 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 2: I'm like what what man. One of the other leaders 326 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 2: was like, unbelievable. I would have never guessed that this 327 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:38,479 Speaker 2: is what was gonna happen. Huh. He did several Johnny 328 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 2: Cash songs and then put his guitar away. I'll be dag, 329 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 2: I know, and he played better than me, which is 330 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 2: highly disappointing. 331 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:47,640 Speaker 3: Oh that's so annoying, very very annoying. 332 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 2: You might be annoyed if you're really into the whole 333 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 2: pedo ring story. That is the reason a chunk of 334 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 2: you voted for Donald Trump. Some of you don't even 335 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 2: know what I'm talking about, because I only know because 336 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 2: I happen to know a couple of people that are 337 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 2: really into this story. Their big thing was, I mean, 338 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 2: they were all tweeting and texting each other leading up 339 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 2: to election day and Inauguration day. Finally it comes to 340 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:21,159 Speaker 2: an end. They're all going to be exposed. The Clintons, 341 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:25,679 Speaker 2: the Hollywood types, everybody who's been trafficking all these children 342 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 2: for sex all these years are going to get nailed 343 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 2: to the wall. And it's all tied in with Epstein 344 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 2: and he's a massad agent and blackmail and all these 345 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 2: different sorts of things. 346 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 3: Right, it's a form. 347 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: Of the Q and on or more like the Pizzagate thing, 348 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: just evolving, continuing to evolve, because that's the nature of 349 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 1: these things. 350 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 2: And you might be disappointed if you're in that crowd 351 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:46,880 Speaker 2: that Trump has come out so hardcore against you today 352 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 2: with truth social posts and a couple of different on 353 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 2: mic things denouncing you and saying he doesn't need your 354 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 2: vote anymore. Here's the very latest from the Oval Office. 355 00:19:57,720 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 2: He said this was all hooks. As your attorney general, 356 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 2: I told you this was a hoax. What evidence, no 357 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 2: it's not the Attorney General. 358 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 5: Now I know it's a hoax. It's started by Democrats. 359 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 5: It's been run by the Democrats for four years. 360 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 3: You had Christopher Ray. 361 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 5: And these characters in Kobe before him, and it's a 362 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 5: bad group. 363 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 3: It started. 364 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 5: Actually, look at the Steele dossier that turned out to 365 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 5: be a total hoax. 366 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 3: The fifty one agents. 367 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 5: The intelligence so called intelligence agents was a hoax. It's 368 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:28,360 Speaker 5: all been a big hoax. It's perpetrated by the Democrats, 369 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:32,439 Speaker 5: and some stupid Republicans and foolish Republicans fall into the 370 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 5: net and so they try and do the democrats work. 371 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:37,919 Speaker 3: I call it the Epstein hoax. 372 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 5: The sad part is it's people that are really doing 373 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 5: the Democrats work. 374 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:46,160 Speaker 3: There's stupid people. Wow. 375 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 2: The most energetic Trump supporters I know would be that 376 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:57,160 Speaker 2: group of stupid Republicans that fell into the net doing 377 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 2: the work of the Democrats he just talked about, because 378 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:03,919 Speaker 2: they believe that story that your Attorney General and FBI 379 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 2: director and others were pushing for quite some time. It 380 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 2: wasn't democrats. I don't remember Democrats ever pushing this child 381 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:12,640 Speaker 2: sex ring thing. 382 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 1: No, And they're now doing the work of the Democrats. 383 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 1: By undermining the Trump administration. 384 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 2: He's saying, right, but how does it tie in with 385 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 2: Komy and Russia GAT and all that sort of stuff. Well, 386 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 2: it doesn't. 387 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 1: That's not a great comparison. I mean, they're both false 388 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 1: and both you know, had just enough tidbit of evidence here, 389 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 1: evidence there that you could spin the yarn if your 390 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 1: James call me that, Yes, Trump is a secret Russian stooge. 391 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:53,880 Speaker 2: So you hear the phrase in politics sometimes about when 392 00:21:53,920 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 2: Bill Clinton denounced a rapper that kind of went against 393 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 2: his own party Sister Soldier moment. People call about it 394 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 2: and and it helped him bring people into support him 395 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 2: from the other side. 396 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: This is like, well he was, he was proving I'm 397 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:18,160 Speaker 1: not Look, I'm left, but I'm not way out there right, Yeah, exactly, Yeah, 398 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 1: I'm willing to denounce the crazies in my party. 399 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 2: Is this Trump's Sister Soldier moment? 400 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, except that. 401 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: The Epstein thing is so under the radar of the vast, 402 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 1: vast majority of people, whereas like rap and violent imagery 403 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 1: and anti American imagery, and in the case of Sister Soldier, 404 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: I think it was anti cop imagery. 405 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,360 Speaker 3: That's everybody's aware of that that's like a hot top. 406 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 2: This is so I mean, he's denouncing them so strongly. 407 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 2: It would be like, if, you know, assuming Biden wasn't 408 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 2: a mental patient, if Biden had come out and said, look, 409 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 2: these college students marching a reminder, Kamala was the actual candidate, 410 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 2: so use Kamala. Okay, If Kamala had come out and said, 411 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 2: these college students are crazy, They've fallen for a hoax 412 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:19,640 Speaker 2: that Israel is perpetuating a genocide. I don't want their support. 413 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 2: They're nuts. I mean, it's that level of your biggest supporter, 414 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 2: your biggest supporters, you're calling crazies, your most passionate supporters. 415 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, wow, yeah, yeah, it's notable. And you know what's 416 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 1: funny is I think the criticism of Pam Bondi and 417 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 1: Cash Betellent Company is legitimate. Having led people way down 418 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 1: the garden path of the idea that there's something here 419 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 1: and we're getting to the bottom of it, just to 420 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 1: exploit them and keep them listening and watching them whatever, 421 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: and then just saying I've looked at the file and 422 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 1: there's nothing there, so we're fine here and thinking that's 423 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 1: gonna be good enough. 424 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 3: It's just dumb. 425 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:07,199 Speaker 1: You don't understand how the way human beings behave you 426 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 1: needed to do better than that and explain why having 427 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: promoted the idea for the longest time, or in the 428 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 1: case of Pam BONDI freaking specifically said you had the 429 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:17,679 Speaker 1: client list on your. 430 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 3: Desk, you gotta do better. 431 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 2: Do you think she needs to step down? Or will 432 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 2: a lot of people say that. 433 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 3: I don't know. It's so hard to say. 434 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,400 Speaker 1: Within Trump world, it's entirely possible. 435 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, but anyway, I was working toward a point. 436 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:39,880 Speaker 1: Oh, that's absolutely I think they mishandled that they had 437 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 1: to do better. On the other hand, I have no 438 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: idea why Donald J would be so harsh. He doesn't 439 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:52,160 Speaker 1: need a sister soldier. Moment he's in office, he can't 440 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: run again. He's just doesn't care who he hurts and 441 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 1: bruises with his words. It seems to me like he 442 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: would have and better off of he went with. Look, 443 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 1: I wasn't paying attention to the Epstein thing. Really, you know, 444 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,439 Speaker 1: throw Bondie and patell or whoever you want under the bus. 445 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 2: You know, they were pushing this. I heard what they said, 446 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 2: and I thought, wow, that's interesting. But I wasn't really 447 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 2: paying attention to it. It turns out there's nothing to it. Yeah, 448 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 2: they probably. 449 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:21,679 Speaker 1: Went too far, folks, And now they've seen the actual 450 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 1: facts and they realized there was really nothing there. So 451 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,959 Speaker 1: they you know, they owe you an apology, being as 452 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 1: enthusiastic as they were. 453 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 3: Well they didn't have the facts. 454 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 2: Go if they owe you know, apology as opposed to 455 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 2: your crazy, and I don't want your support anymore. 456 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 1: And stupid stupid crazy is one thing, stupid is another. 457 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 1: You hate to be both. Yeah, it's it's just it's 458 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:49,640 Speaker 1: bad politics. But nah, you can do whatever he wants. 459 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: That much is clear. 460 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 3: Okay, Well that's that story. 461 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 2: I keep thinking this is over that dang story. 462 00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:57,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just. 463 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 1: Interested in watching humans and just the psychological, social, political 464 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: aspects of this. 465 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 3: I don't, I don't. 466 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 1: I have no interest in the story itself really because 467 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 1: I've I've learned everything I need to learn. 468 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 3: I think about it. But right, well, the way people 469 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 3: behave is so interesting. 470 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 2: That's exactly what I thought it was. I assumed all 471 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 2: along they were saying this to get ratings and or 472 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 2: get votes, and there was nothing to it but change 473 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 2: a topic. I just wanted to get this story on 474 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 2: it's a story about China and what they're doing around AI. 475 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 2: And now Trump gave the go ahead from Navidio to 476 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 2: continue to sell the very best AI chips to China. 477 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 2: I'm not exactually sure what that's all about. I haven't 478 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 2: looked into it. But Chinese government they're working on AI too, 479 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 2: let's hear it. 480 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 6: This whole robotic push comes at a time when the 481 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 6: Chinese government is making technology, including AI, a national priority. Already, 482 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 6: China's proven innovator, as we've seen with evs. Now it's 483 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 6: looking to dominate the field of AI enabled robots, and 484 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 6: the gap with the US is widening. 485 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 2: According to Morgan Stanley Research. 486 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 7: China is really pushing the envelope in all things leading 487 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:20,439 Speaker 7: edge technology. And there are so many practical and also 488 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 7: strategic applications of AI and robotics combined. 489 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,400 Speaker 2: Now, you said you saw the video of the Chinese 490 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 2: robot soldiers, and it. 491 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:35,639 Speaker 1: Was it was not Chinese, it was they were are 492 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 1: they're the good guy soldier knots. 493 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 2: But they're pretty impressive. 494 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 3: Oh, it's just crazy impressive. 495 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 2: That's funny. 496 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 3: There will be a human being on a battlefield in 497 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:46,199 Speaker 3: ten years. 498 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 2: On CNN, I saw a thing about China's particular robot armies, 499 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:55,119 Speaker 2: robot dogs, robot soldiers, robot they're actually they're presenting it 500 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 2: all as robot athletes, which is pretty clever. Yeah, we 501 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 2: just want to have the best robot athletes up there. 502 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 2: They're really strong and fast and could jump high and 503 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 2: run fast and have guns, and then we'll have guns 504 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 2: and they'll go from being athletes to being very athletic soldiers. 505 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 2: But they were damned impressive and it reminded me of 506 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,119 Speaker 2: and I keep mentioning this book, but I'm reading this 507 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 2: listening to this book about the end of World War 508 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:20,360 Speaker 2: II in the Pacific. We were just dominating the Japanese 509 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 2: in that last year of the war before we finally won, 510 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,919 Speaker 2: because we just had better technology. Our technology was so 511 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 2: much better than what they had. We're just literally blowing 512 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,439 Speaker 2: them out of the water. But they couldn't. Our planes 513 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 2: could fly circles around their planes. Our intelligence was so 514 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 2: much better, our radars ability to reach out further than 515 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 2: they could. They wouldn't know where our fleet was, and 516 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 2: we'd show up because they knew where they were, and 517 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 2: blah blah blah, blah blah blah. That's how you win. 518 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 2: I mean, you can care about your country and be 519 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 2: a patriot, and that that matters. See Ukraine. But the 520 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 2: main reason Ukraine's doing so well is their innovation and 521 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 2: their technology. And if China ends up, you know, with 522 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 2: way ahead of us, like this person suggested an AI, 523 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 2: that's gonna be a problem. We defeated the Japanese so soundly. 524 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,239 Speaker 2: Not because we're a better well, it is because we're 525 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 2: a better sent but not because we're better people or 526 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 2: more honorable or ethical. It's because we we had the 527 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 2: better technology to win the war, right, right, And I 528 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 2: hope China doesn't have that that report, man, it sounds 529 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 2: like they do, right. 530 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 1: Sometimes you just have the edge temporarily. But yeah, yeah, 531 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 1: plenty of awful regimes have gotten over because they had 532 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 1: better war making tools. Yeah, we need to at least 533 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 1: be fighting them to a draw. In the AI stuff, 534 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 1: I mean, it is so obviously the future of warfare 535 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 1: it seems silly to even point it out anymore. But 536 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 1: you're gonna have unmanned aerial vehicles, unmanned aquatic vehicles, unmanned 537 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 1: men in the field, just and practically nothing but that 538 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 1: it relates directly that farm story. 539 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 3: I was excited to get into. Maybe we can do 540 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 3: it tomorrow. 541 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 1: But there's not going to be a damn person in 542 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 1: your local farm field never mind, and dozens of people 543 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 1: who oddly have no immigration paperwork. Please, that's going to 544 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 1: be as yesterday's ville. As as I said earlier, importing 545 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 1: a bunch of Chinese people to build the railroad, it'll 546 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 1: be a historical curiosity. 547 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 2: And soon, well if you had a bunch of column 548 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 2: Ai soldiers robot soldiers, but they're various kinds of drones early, 549 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 2: I suppose, and then you get a big battle and 550 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 2: the true drone armies meet, and then some of them 551 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 2: are here, some on the ground, some of them look 552 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 2: like dogs, some look like people, some of them look 553 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 2: like a half a tank or whatever. And then they 554 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 2: meet and then they have a battle. What do we 555 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 2: all just watch the video at the end and say, 556 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 2: huh we won or hung we lost? 557 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 1: And then it boils down to manufacturing capability, Oh against China? 558 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 2: What like their army beats your army and then they say, 559 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 2: so do you want a super peace or what? Because 560 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 2: we just defeated your army. 561 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 1: Well, once we defeat all your machines, we're going to 562 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 1: come for your humans. So you got to just smash 563 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 1: up machines until everybody runs out of them, or one 564 00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 1: side or the other runs out of them. Then we 565 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 1: say all right, we're coming for your people. Next you say, 566 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 1: all right, all right, uncle, we can't manufacture fast enough 567 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 1: to keep up with you. 568 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 2: Wow, that'll be something to watch. We'll finish strong next. 569 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 8: Authorities in France have arrested a man three days after 570 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 8: you escape from prison by hiding in a cellmates laundry 571 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 8: bag the day he was released. And now the question 572 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 8: is how do you punish someone who voluntarily got into 573 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 8: a French prisoner's dirty laundry. 574 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 575 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 2: I just learned about birdhands, and now that I've heard 576 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 2: of it, I'm going to see it all the time. 577 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 2: All of the mostly white, over educated women who do 578 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 2: those videos that they put out where they sit in 579 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 2: their car and lecture you about various things. Yeah, they 580 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 2: almost all do this birdhand thing. The problem today is 581 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 2: you have got to find a way to do this thing. 582 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 1: With their fingers and right like they're flapping wings almost. 583 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 2: I don't know what it is exactly, I don't know 584 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 2: who started. It's funny how mannerisms catch on. I mean, 585 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 2: you're just you know, like the way people hold guitars 586 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 2: got started a long time ago, and everybody does it. 587 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 3: It's just whatever. 588 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 1: But because my daughter, my twenty five year old daughter, 589 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 1: who she does this for comedic effect. But I'll like 590 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 1: make some ridiculous suggesting, She'll say, and I'm doing it 591 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 1: in rhythm with my words because this is the radio. 592 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 1: We're not doing that for some reason that I don't 593 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 1: know what it is. Originally I guess it was keep 594 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 1: your mouth shut. You're doing this thing with your hands. 595 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 1: It's like keep your mouth shut on talking. 596 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 3: I don't know. 597 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 9: I don't know. 598 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 2: I'm tired of hearing this. 599 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 9: They use my hands for it. 600 00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 3: It's so perfect. 601 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 2: Because it's so lame, I could have had a hit 602 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 2: in nineteen seventy three. Here's your host for final thoughts, 603 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 2: Joe Getty. 604 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 1: How about a final thought from everybody on the CRUD 605 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 1: to wrapp up the show. There is our technical director 606 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 1: to lead us off, Michaeligelow. 607 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 3: Final thought. 608 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, So, thirtieth anniversary of Amazon. I remember I was 609 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 2: twenty years old and I had a choice in stocks 610 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 2: between Sears and BlackBerry and Amazon and Apple, and I 611 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:23,720 Speaker 2: chose the wrong two. Oh no, and yeah, my life 612 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 2: might have been that frankl Yeah, your life could have 613 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 2: been so different if you had invested in sees. 614 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, Katie green Arstein to muse woman has a final thought. 615 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 8: Katie, So I just changed it to birdhand so it's 616 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 8: more of. 617 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 1: Like a like an attitude thing. Okay, you do it 618 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 1: when you're getting irritated. 619 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 2: A lot of girls do, and they click their nails down. 620 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 2: You're right, the clicking the nails together. I've heard of 621 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 2: that one. 622 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 3: Lord save me from this. 623 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 2: Jack a final thought that lame music reminded me. Sometimes 624 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 2: I'll be scrolling stuff, trying to play something when I'm 625 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 2: driving the kids, and I'll say, this was the number 626 00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 2: one song in the country when I was eight, and 627 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 2: I'll play something. It's just so horrifying. It's hard for 628 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 2: me to believe, impossible for them to believe it was 629 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 2: you know, Billy Don't be a Hero? Look it up? 630 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:08,440 Speaker 2: Was ever a popular song? 631 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,880 Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah? Wow. My final thought is, and we can 632 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:14,799 Speaker 3: do a many poll if you want. I swear this 633 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:16,360 Speaker 3: is true. I'm not trying to be funny or I 634 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 3: aren'tronic or anything. 635 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 1: My batting average, my percentage of getting it right when 636 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 1: I put a USB chord into a jack is one 637 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:28,320 Speaker 1: out of three at best. 638 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I had a h A person with a PhD 639 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,439 Speaker 2: in understanding that sort of thing explained to me why 640 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:40,239 Speaker 2: we feel that way. It's an illusion, but it's it's 641 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 2: amazing because we all feel that way. 642 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 3: Your face is an illusion. 643 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 2: Armstrong in Getty Wrapiga but ere they're grueling four hour workday. 644 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 3: No, it's not an lose, so many people think. 645 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 1: So a little time good Armstrong in Geeddy dot com. 646 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 1: A lot of great clicks there for you, see you tomorrow. 647 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 2: God bless America. 648 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,160 Speaker 3: I'm strong and ghatget. 649 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,440 Speaker 2: Behavior has been nothing short of but thuggist. 650 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,400 Speaker 4: I don't think you go through that type of experience 651 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:05,880 Speaker 4: in doing emerged change. 652 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,880 Speaker 1: I expected more pathetic spectacle. 653 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:10,440 Speaker 3: You're locking up my toothpaste. 654 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 2: What in the hell heck are we talking about? 655 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:14,320 Speaker 3: So let's go with a pine. 656 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 1: God is a Republican. Take two? God is a Republican? 657 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 1: M Take three, Michael, how much tape do we have? 658 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,759 Speaker 3: Probably want to check on that igh note. Thank you 659 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 3: all very much, Armstrong and Getty