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Speaker 2: the New York Football Giants. The Giants fall to the

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Speaker 2: Saints twenty four to six down in the Superdome. John

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Speaker 2: Schmelt Jonathan Casias with you for the next sixteen minutes

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Speaker 2: on the network two hours here on our local flagship

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Speaker 2: WFM recapping this game. We're gonna have Brian Dable at

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Speaker 2: the podium. We'll have all the other player reaction downstairs

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Speaker 2: with Bob Papa, Paul Detino, Pete Hoffman, That and a

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Speaker 2: Point and jac This game, I think can be summarized

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Speaker 2: pretty plainly. The Giants just couldn't get anything going offensively.

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Speaker 2: If you take a look at the drive chart here,

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Speaker 2: they did not have one drive that went from more

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Speaker 2: than fifty yards until that final one when the Saints

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Speaker 2: were playing some prevent defense and the offense just couldn't

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Speaker 2: sustain anything. They couldn't run it, they couldn't throw it,

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Speaker 2: they couldn't protect.

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Speaker 3: Nothing went right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and then the second half, I mean, they kept

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Speaker 4: the game close in the first half. It was only

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Speaker 4: six or seven going in at the halftime. And then

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Speaker 4: after that, the last four possessions of the Giants were

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Speaker 4: two punts and two turnover on downs zero points. And

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Speaker 4: they really couldn't slow down the Saints offense. The Saints

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Speaker 4: got into a rhythm on offense. They found Camara a lot,

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Speaker 4: and you know, the second half was an Avon Kamara half,

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Speaker 4: you know, and a guy like that, who's that explosive,

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Speaker 4: and he's such a dual threat, you got to be

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Speaker 4: able to stop him early. And the Giants really couldn't

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Speaker 4: get it done. And that's why you saw the game

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Speaker 4: get away from them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and the Giants defense was Okay, you look at

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Speaker 2: the final score, twenty four points.

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Speaker 3: It's not a lot.

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Speaker 2: They were on the field lot lot because the Giants

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Speaker 2: couldn't sustain a lot of first downs.

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Speaker 3: But jac is not like the Saints had a lot

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Speaker 2: They really, you know, the last two possessions that were

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Speaker 2: weren't trying to do much with the football, so and

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Speaker 2: they only had seven possessions. They scored on four of them.

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Speaker 2: They had three drives that went at least sixty eight yards.

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Speaker 2: They had a seventy yard touchdown drive, a seventy eight

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Speaker 2: the defense was fine, but they also couldn't generate any

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Speaker 2: negative plays, whether it was takeaways. They did not get

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Speaker 2: four games when they had fourteen and only one sack

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Speaker 2: in the game by Jason Pinnock. So they weren't really

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Speaker 4: And the defense needed to do that. The defense needed

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Speaker 4: to be disruptive, and they weren't able to do that consistently.

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Speaker 4: I think the tail for them was they were fifty

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Speaker 4: percent on third down of the Saints, where you know,

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Speaker 4: six of twelve one third down. They only got to

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Speaker 4: car one time early in the game, and I don't

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Speaker 4: And you know, the Saints, as dysfunctional as their offense

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Speaker 4: has been, the second half, I think they put together.

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Speaker 4: You know, first of all, that first drive out of

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Speaker 4: the second half, it was what eleven plays sixty eight yards.

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Speaker 4: It took up ten plays sixty eight yards, It took

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Speaker 4: up six minutes and twenty one seconds, and that kind

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Speaker 4: of set the tone for what they were going to

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Speaker 4: and the Giants really couldn't figure out how to slow

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Speaker 4: sputtering all year, but the defense has kept them in

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Speaker 4: Giants defense couldn't really keep them in the game. Today.

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Speaker 2: Pepsi Giants Extra Point again. The Giants fall to the

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Speaker 2: Saints twenty four to six. Will be right back.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Pepsi Giants Extra Point on the WFA

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Speaker 4: Shot gut set.

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Speaker 5: Parkley is the right of Canato.

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Speaker 6: Tomato takes the snap three step drop, who's looking nobody's

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Speaker 6: open now, rolls to his right, lobs it up the

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Speaker 6: right sideline for Parkley and makes the one handed catch

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Speaker 6: along the sideline. And did he get both feet in

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Speaker 6: at the forty three?

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Speaker 4: Yes he did.

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Speaker 3: That was our scoring drive of the game.

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Speaker 2: helped set up a field goal to give the Giants

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Speaker 2: on only three to nothing lead. It's time for Brian

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Speaker 3: Let's go downstairs with the coach.

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Speaker 7: You know, the runs, really, the quarterback zone reads were

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Speaker 8: Was was going.

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Speaker 7: I think you know Saike one I had nine for

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Speaker 7: fourteen or somewhere around there. Couldn't get the run game going,

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Speaker 7: had a number of sacks, so uh again they were

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Speaker 7: you know, it wasn't wasn't good enough.

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Speaker 9: Coverage set that.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean look it was uh nothing, nothing was

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Speaker 7: just played. They played good. They stopped the run. You know,

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Speaker 7: Uh So just overall good enough. Why, Yeah, they did

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Speaker 10: At the end of the end of the first half,

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Speaker 11: I would imagine coming in, you guys felt pretty good

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Speaker 8: To get the opens going around on really to teach

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean it was seven to six, you know Jamie,

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Speaker 8: Know, again they did a better job than we did

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Speaker 10: Is there anything that uh?

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Speaker 12: I mean we saw Tom go tap waker and after

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Speaker 12: is he still beat?

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Speaker 13: He was?

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Speaker 8: And then they came out told me he was good.

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Speaker 8: So did you have a.

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Speaker 10: Halftime with him or no?

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Speaker 5: No, what did you What did you think of that

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Speaker 8: Whatever they call they call or don't call you?

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Speaker 14: You about it?

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Speaker 7: No, they took I had to get tired, I had

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Speaker 5: He'd done such a good job getting away from that

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Speaker 15: And then yeah, stepping up a little bit instead of

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Speaker 7: Well, I think it's different. I mean there's there's different rushes.

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Speaker 7: I mean every every game is a little bit different.

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Speaker 7: You know, like I said, not good enough all the

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Speaker 8: They did a good job blocking us. You know, they

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Speaker 7: Uh the better chances offensively they were. I mean I

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Speaker 5: Not You're not especially gonna be eliminated from the pos

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Speaker 7: And you are going to continue get players have you?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, we're all pros. You get ready to play. Get

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Speaker 2: Bullet you know how long you.

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Speaker 8: No, don't know.

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Speaker 16: Would you have done if.

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Speaker 5: Gil went into the tender? What would have happened at

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Speaker 8: We we talked about it halftime.

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Speaker 7: It almost got to that point, but Jamie toughed it out.

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Speaker 7: He did the preseason last year. I mean, yeah, but

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Speaker 7: you don't anticipate two guys possibly going down, So uh,

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Speaker 7: give him credit. Fought through it, kicked off. We'll see

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Speaker 7: where we're at.

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Speaker 4: His bullet cirk himself get.

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Speaker 8: On the kickoff.

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Speaker 7: No, yeah, I don't know exactly what it was. He

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Speaker 12: So that exchange, you guys.

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Speaker 17: Were always planning on going for in that situation, have

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Speaker 17: anything to do with Jamie.

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Speaker 8: Nope, we're going for it. Oh good, nice guy.

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Speaker 2: And I think that last question trying to get in

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Speaker 2: On the C and jac he kind of said it right,

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Speaker 3: Let's take a time out. Giants fall to the Saints

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Speaker 2: Plenty more coming from downstairs, will have Tommy DeVito and

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Speaker 6: Third as well, if the Giants break the huddle with

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Speaker 4: Boy, what an opportune time for Waller to be back.

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Speaker 4: They brought the flitz.

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Speaker 2: Of the New York Football Giants a twenty nine yard game.

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Speaker 2: There was the biggest play of the game for the

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Speaker 3: Plenty more coming your way from downstairs.

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Speaker 2: As the Giants fall to the Saints twenty four to six,

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Speaker 2: It just becomes very very difficult.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, then you got the Eagles two out of the

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Speaker 15: Man.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's easy to explain why.

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Speaker 2: Right on that drive they had the two big runs

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Speaker 2: The Giants really needed help on both those scoring drives.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, I guess they called from upstairs and said that

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Speaker 15: What'd you think of that?

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Speaker 18: The player on what you got hit did a day

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Speaker 9: You do you feel that was a clean hit?

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Speaker 18: I don't know, just football, it's happened.

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Speaker 15: So you you had.

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Speaker 17: Done such a good job we last game of escaping

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Speaker 10: And you had a couple of keepers today.

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Speaker 5: But what was the difference today?

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Speaker 8: What? What was what was came in there.

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Speaker 15: In the back there?

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Speaker 17: How much have you seen f yous were maybe the

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Speaker 18: Try to slow you.

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Speaker 19: Guys have.

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Speaker 18: Nothing too crazy. We just lacked execution on offense, but

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Speaker 18: I don't think we played in one enough swagger and

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Speaker 5: Why do you say that?

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Speaker 20: After a couple of the always sacks the defensive line

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Speaker 4: Did you see that that bother you or did you?

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Speaker 18: I didn't know till you just said it.

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Speaker 20: What was this experience like in that atmosphere or what

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Speaker 10: Tell me the challenge, hubs is it for you?

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Speaker 5: Uh how much?

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Speaker 10: How challenging is that what you referred to?

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Speaker 5: They maybe did some stuff to kind of.

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Speaker 7: Uh, how challenging is that to try to take the

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Speaker 5: After to speak for whatever team do they do for?

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Speaker 18: Yeah, I think teams still with everybody. I just so

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Speaker 18: But I mean, the NFL is not easy. It's not

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Speaker 9: They what all this after the game you're starting next week?

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Speaker 4: Keep calling you don't go over.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, uh, he believes in me. I'm gonna continue to

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Speaker 5: Your performance today given what you expected?

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Speaker 18: Telling in average two throws, I went back for sure,

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Speaker 18: But like I said, I just need to be that

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Speaker 18: Uh, the first one in the game to say 'em

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Speaker 18: and then one to a waller in the right side

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Speaker 18: and fourth quarter.

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Speaker 9: With with everything that's gone on in the last month

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Speaker 9: or so since you've.

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Speaker 14: Been started, you know three.

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Speaker 10: The last year time you had come in here and

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Speaker 10: you know I was talking about all the ti you did. Well,

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Speaker 10: I know that you were.

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Speaker 3: Probably more critical than that, and you had let on.

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Speaker 21: After a game like this, how critical are you you and.

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Speaker 9: Yourself and the idea of you know, what your next

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Speaker 9: step is to get.

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Speaker 5: Better or next one?

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Speaker 8: Very critical?

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Speaker 18: Yeah, I'm always hard around myself than anybody else. But

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Speaker 18: at the same time, I'm realistic with myself. I won't

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Speaker 18: try to beat myself up over things. But it's all

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Speaker 18: learning experiences. A routine throw that I make ten times

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Speaker 18: out of ten, it's a while that I missed just

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Speaker 18: cannot happen. So i'm'a beating myself up over that one,

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Speaker 18: for sure. But just watch the film. See what we

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Speaker 18: could have done different, See if anything I could have

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Speaker 18: done anything different, and then move on from there and

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Speaker 18: not the next week.

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Speaker 8: What do you make the seven sacks at this point?

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Speaker 17: Like you when you, I know, you.

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Speaker 5: Go to the side like pe look at 'em a

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Speaker 5: little bit. Is it not having time?

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Speaker 8: Is it pulling the ball too long?

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Speaker 22: Uh?

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Speaker 5: Nobody opened.

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Speaker 18: It's a little bit of everything. I mean, at times,

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Speaker 18: sometimes it's just a pressure look. Sometimes it's a cover sack.

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Speaker 18: Sometimes I can get the ball out and I'd maybe

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Speaker 18: just miss somebody. I mean, it's all three of those

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Speaker 18: that goes into it. I think I've said that in

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Speaker 18: the past, just when we've had a couple other sack games.

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Speaker 18: It's just it's not just on the offensive line. It's

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Speaker 18: not just on the court like it's just on the receiver.

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Speaker 18: It's kind of a it's a different scenario every time,

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Speaker 18: but we'll be better across the board might tell you

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Speaker 18: how are you using it as a a an.

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Speaker 12: Excuse or anything, but the series of events that when

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Speaker 12: you been taken off to be beating the medical times

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Speaker 12: and the money to.

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Speaker 16: The locker room and by the time you get clear,

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Speaker 16: you're basically coming out for the.

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Speaker 4: Second half, right, What was that.

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Speaker 5: Like for you?

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Speaker 12: And did it almost feel like I mean, I use

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Speaker 12: the words really the idea of you.

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Speaker 21: Know, you're you're out of the game, you're in the game.

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Speaker 10: What was that like trying to get back going on

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Speaker 10: the sideline once you.

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Speaker 18: Got leader, there was a little bumps in the road,

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Speaker 18: I'll say, just because I can't get to have my

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Speaker 18: halftime adjustments and do all that and just like talk

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Speaker 18: and just reset with the guys. But at the same time,

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Speaker 18: it's the job. You know, you get thrown into it.

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Speaker 18: You're expected to play and do everything at your best,

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Speaker 18: which we got going on toimes. We just need to

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Speaker 18: be more consistent with them.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, thank you, I appreciate that.

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Speaker 2: Player Press conferences are brought to you by met Life,

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Speaker 2: listening to Pepsi Giants, extra point Giants fault of Saints

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Speaker 2: twenty four to six. And you heard of Brian David.

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Speaker 2: We did get word that when he walked off the

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Speaker 2: podium there. He did tell reporters that Tommy did it

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Speaker 2: will be starting next week, and Jase, look, we're not

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Speaker 2: gonna tell you. Tom DeVito was was particularly great today,

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Speaker 2: but he did not get help from his wide receivers.

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Speaker 2: There were a couple of drops early in this game.

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Speaker 2: Clearly the protection was poor. Again, this was not a

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Speaker 2: lot of him holding the ball a ton. Pressure was

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Speaker 2: getting there quickly. They were not allowing those same lanes

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Speaker 2: the Packers did last week to allow him to escape

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Speaker 2: some of that pressure. He did miss a couple throws

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Speaker 2: to his point, the cross of the wall or that

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Speaker 2: he threw too far in front of him.

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Speaker 3: He under threw.

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Speaker 2: Slayton on that d pass early in the game. But

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Speaker 2: I don't think he did anything in this game where

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Speaker 2: you're sitting there like, all right, well, we can't win

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Speaker 2: with this guy. We can't have him start next week.

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Speaker 4: No, definitely not the offensive line. They were porous again

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Speaker 4: today a couple of times. I mean passing. I think

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Speaker 4: I got that right. Yeah, he had an amazing game.

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Speaker 4: Three sacks, three tackles for loss, and four quarterback hits.

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Speaker 4: They had no answer for him. You know, he a

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Speaker 4: couple of times he beat a pew right away, and

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Speaker 4: then they were doing a lot of games inside too,

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Speaker 4: John Michael Smith. They really didn't have any answer for it.

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Speaker 4: It looked like the Giants up front they were really

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Speaker 4: confused with the Saints defensive front moving around and there

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Speaker 4: was no answer for the Mario Davis ten tackles, a sack,

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Speaker 4: two TFLs, and a quarterback hit.

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Speaker 3: He's a good player, man.

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Speaker 4: He was all over the field in the backfield. You know,

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Speaker 4: he got a sacked really early in the game, kind

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Speaker 4: of you know, to set the table for what was

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Speaker 4: to come defensively for the New Orleans Saints. And the

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Speaker 4: Giants have to figure out a way how to get

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Speaker 4: better up front. I think he took a step forward

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Speaker 4: last week. Today was a step backwards today. And the

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Speaker 4: Giants have to improve upfront. No matter who's playing quarterback

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Speaker 4: for the New York Giants, they have to play better upfront.

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Speaker 3: All right, we have a final elsewhere.

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Speaker 2: The Browns just picked off justin fields on a hel

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Speaker 2: Mary attempt at the end of the fourth quarter that

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Speaker 2: I'm looking at the replay again off of the fletch

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Speaker 2: and I believe it hit a Bear receiver right in

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Speaker 2: the hands. He did no, I think that's darn Old

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Speaker 2: mooning Morning number eleven right.

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Speaker 23: He could not come up with it, and he popped

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Speaker 23: it up into the Brown players has That would have

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Speaker 23: been an unbelievable touchdown for the Bears, but in the

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Speaker 23: falling to the Browns twenty to seventeen, the Browns kicked

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Speaker 23: the field go on overtime and the Bears could not

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Speaker 23: come back down the field and convert that.

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Speaker 2: Hal Mary was right in Darnell Mooney's hands and he

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Speaker 2: just couldnot come up with that. That is unbelievable. He

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Speaker 2: kicked it up with his foot right to the brown

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Speaker 2: defender and last I checked, it was still sixteen to

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Speaker 2: sixteen between the Texans and the Titans.

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Speaker 3: At overtime.

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Speaker 2: The Texans are about to attempt a fifty four yard

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Speaker 2: potential game winning field goal. We'll tell you what happens

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Speaker 2: there and everything else from the locker room with her

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Speaker 2: from Paul Detino. That and your calls at eight seven

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Speaker 2: seven three three seven sixty six sixty six Giants fall

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Speaker 2: to the Saints twenty four to six.

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Speaker 3: We'll be back right after this.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Pepsi Giants Extra Point on the WFAN

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Speaker 17: This is Jamie Gillan and you're listening to the radio

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Speaker 17: home of the Big Blue the Fan, w FAA and

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Speaker 24: This is gonna be a forty yard left footed kicks

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Speaker 24: half its good, kick on its way and over end,

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Speaker 24: and it is good. So Jamie Gillen had the final

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Speaker 24: play of the first half kicks the field goal.

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Speaker 2: Who else could be the player of the game when

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Speaker 2: the Giants scored six points and both of those coming

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Speaker 2: on field goals, one of which came from punter Jamie Gillen,

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Speaker 2: who had to come in and kick a forty yard

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Speaker 2: field goal at the end of the first half after

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Speaker 2: place kicker Randy Bullock hurt his hamstring and then Gillan

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Speaker 2: was limping around in half number two, but he managed

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Speaker 2: to stay in the game before in both duties admirably.

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Speaker 2: Goner Old Schefski the holder, So that made Jamie Gillen

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Speaker 2: today's player of the Game. Brought to you by Moody's

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Speaker 2: jac You know, things can get really dicey sometimes when

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Speaker 2: that placekicker goes out. You know, team's gonna have to

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Speaker 2: go for it on fourth and down if they don't

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Speaker 2: have a guy that they can trust to do anything

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Speaker 2: in the place kicking game. But Jamie Gillen showed that, Look,

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Speaker 2: I can step in there if I have to, and

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Speaker 2: I can take care of business at least on a

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Speaker 2: forty yard or there so the Giants can play football

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Speaker 2: in the normal matter, even though their primary placekicker went out.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, first off, Randy Bulloch, I tip my

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Speaker 4: hat to him. That fifty six yard field goal was

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Speaker 4: a thing of beauty. And then I guess the ensuing kickoff,

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Speaker 4: that's when he got hurt and he tweaked his hamstring.

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Speaker 4: But Jamie Gillen coming in like.

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Speaker 2: That, and that kick, by the way, tied a career

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Speaker 2: long for him. That first kick for Bullocks, Yes.

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Speaker 4: Beautiful kick, much needed too, of course, you know, even

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Speaker 4: though it didn't help Giants to win, but definitely got

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Speaker 4: on the board, especially early in the game. Jamie Gillen

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Speaker 4: coming in like that, I mean, he kicked the ball

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Speaker 4: five punted the ball five times for two hundred and

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Speaker 4: thirty eight yards with a forty seven point six average.

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Speaker 4: He kicked a nice forty yard field goal, and he

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Speaker 4: was kicking off. That is a lot to ask foud anybody.

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Speaker 4: So I know it was something going on with him

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Speaker 4: later in the game as well. So I think we

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Speaker 4: got to pay attention to Gillan's health this week to

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Speaker 4: see what the Giants are gonna do moving forward for

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Speaker 4: this next week coming up.

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Speaker 2: The good news is that they do with Kdi you

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Speaker 2: York on the practice squad, right, the kicker that they

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Speaker 2: that they had brought in to kind of compete with

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Speaker 2: block once Graham Gano went out, So at least that'll

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Speaker 2: be a quick solution for them at the placekicker spot.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but if Gillan has some type of injury that's

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Speaker 4: you know, preventing him to practice, the Giants have to

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Speaker 4: figure out who's going to punt the football because I

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Speaker 4: don't think a lot of placekickers can punt. A lot

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Speaker 4: of punters can kick, but not a lot of placekickers

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Speaker 4: can punt. So hopefully he's okay and nothing's going on

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Speaker 4: with him. For this week and they have him next

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Speaker 4: week for what Christmas Christmas Day?

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Speaker 3: Right, I thought, all you got it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So that'll be interesting to see what the Giants

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Speaker 2: do and we'll see if Jamie Gillan can go. He

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Speaker 2: might be absolutely fine. We'll see what that looks like

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Speaker 2: this week and the Giants sins. Christmas is on a Monday.

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Speaker 2: The Giants will have a little bit of a longer

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Speaker 2: week as well an extra day to get ready for

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Speaker 2: that game against the Eagles. Today's statistics are brought to

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Speaker 2: cardinals Appeal dot org. We've been through a lot of

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Speaker 2: these already, but just to relitigate exactly what the Giants

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Speaker 2: offense looked like today. In summary, not good enough, just

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Speaker 2: one hundred and ninety three total yards, two of sixteen

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Speaker 2: on third down. They only held the ball for twenty

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Speaker 2: six minutes and thirty seconds over the course of this game.

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Speaker 2: Tommy DeVito twenty thirty four one hundred and seventy seven yards,

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Speaker 2: a fair amount of those coming on that final drive

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Speaker 2: when the Saints were in prevent defense. He also ran

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Speaker 2: up four times for thirty six yards, and the traditional

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Speaker 2: running game, just not getting it done. Sakuon Barkley nine

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Speaker 2: carries fourteen yards in the game, Matt Brada three carries

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Speaker 2: for ten yards in the passing game, Darius Slayton four

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Speaker 2: catches sixty three yards, the thirty three yard catching and

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Speaker 2: Darren Waller four catches forty yards including that twenty nine

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Speaker 2: yard are four catches twenty five yards for Wandell Robinson

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00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 2: and then three catches for Eric Gray. Two catches a

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Speaker 2: piece for Saquon Barkley, Daniel Bellinger, Matt Braida, and Lawrence

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Speaker 2: Cager with a loan to catch for nine yards as well.

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Speaker 2: Defensive for the Giants, Jason Pinnock had their loan sack

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Speaker 2: and taking a look at some of the other numbers,

673
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 2: only one other quarterback hitting this game, and that was

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Speaker 2: from Bobby O Karake. This was as quiet as a

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Speaker 2: game as we've seen from Dexter Lawrence. Wow. Just two

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Speaker 2: combined tackles in the game, no quarterback hits, no tackles

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Speaker 2: for losses.

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Speaker 3: Very quiet game for him.

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Speaker 2: Keevon Thibodau same deal, just one tackle for him, no

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Speaker 2: tackles for losses, no quarterback hits, so quiet games for

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Speaker 2: two of the giants best defensive players up front, which

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Speaker 2: I think goes a long way to explaining why they

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Speaker 2: were unable to make those type of impactful plays on defense.

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00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 2: Derek Carr was solid game, very efficient, twenty three to

685
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Speaker 2: twenty eight, two hundred eighteen yards, three touchdowns. Alvin Kamar

686
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Speaker 2: sixteen carries sixty six yards tipped in five catches for

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Speaker 2: forty four yards as well. Jamal Williams eight carries twenty

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Speaker 2: four yards tasto them Hill very quiet, didn't really do

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Speaker 2: much in the game, just one carry and one pass

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Speaker 2: attempt and one catch in the game. Rashid Chiheed three

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Speaker 2: catches thirty six yards, Linn Baden three catches Forster Moroth

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Speaker 2: three catches, two catches a piece for Juwan Johnson the

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Speaker 2: tight end and At Perry the wide receiver. And Jimmy

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Speaker 2: Graham two more catches and yet another touchdown also a

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Speaker 2: first round reception for him. Touchdown catches for Juwan Johnson, Kirkwood,

696
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Speaker 2: and Taysom Hill in this game for the New for

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Speaker 2: Jimmy Graham and Kirkwood. Part of me not Taysom Hill

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Speaker 2: for the New Orleans Saints The Saints defense, on the

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Speaker 2: other hand, bothered Tommy Devedo all game seven sacks, nine

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Speaker 2: tackles for loss, eight quarterback hits, five passes defended. They

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Speaker 2: were all over the place on passing downs and the

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Speaker 2: Giants just could not get anything going. And it really

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Speaker 2: came down jc. The Saints won upfront in this game.

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00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 2: They were able to protect their quarterback. They were okay

705
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Speaker 2: running the ball twenty eight carries eighty seven yards, nothing spectacular,

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Speaker 2: but the Giants can not protect their quarterback again. The

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Speaker 2: traditional running game for the second straight week really failed

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Speaker 2: the Giants. Just twelve carries and twenty four yards combined

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Speaker 2: for Barkley and Braid and the Giants cannot protect their quarterback.

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Speaker 2: So once again, the Giants lost up front, and that

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Speaker 2: kind of summarized why they aren't unable to walk out

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Speaker 2: of this game with more than six points and why

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Speaker 2: they lost by eighteen.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I always I speak about Dex Lawrence so

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Speaker 4: much because when he goes, the defense goes, and if

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Speaker 4: the team can do a good job in containing him,

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Speaker 4: I think this is always the result. When Dex Lawrence

718
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Speaker 4: doesn't perform and he's not disruptive and he's not dominating

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Speaker 4: guys like he normally does. The defense has a hard

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Speaker 4: time slowing any offense down, no matter what the inefficiencies

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Speaker 4: was prior to the Giants playing them. It's the Dexter

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Speaker 4: Lawrence show. And the Saints did a great job in

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Speaker 4: slowing him down and making him a non factor in

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Speaker 4: his game. And that showed up from Derek Carr's efficiency

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Speaker 4: them running the ball, and they didn't run the ball

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Speaker 4: that efficient, but when at times they were running the

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Speaker 4: ball almost at will. And I think that's because they

728
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Speaker 4: did a good job in covering up Dexa Lawrence and

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Speaker 4: making him almost a non factor into this game. But

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Speaker 4: I want a little segue to Jimmy Graham. I would

731
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Speaker 4: love to come back for my whatever thirteenth year and

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Speaker 4: just be allowed to catch touchdowns. That's it, that Jimmy Graham.

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Speaker 4: He's only the here to catch touchdowns. He has what

734
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Speaker 4: six catches on the year now he has four touchdowns?

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Speaker 4: Like that must be a nice life, right there, Smoke

736
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Speaker 4: a nice like just to come back from flying planes

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Speaker 4: for a couple of years. Just come back and just

738
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Speaker 4: catch some touchdowns. That's it.

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Speaker 2: Giants Football is brought to you by Verizon, the official

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Speaker 3: Let's take a time out.

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Speaker 2: When we come back, more sound from the locker room,

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00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 2: well hopefully here from Paul Detino as well. All that

745
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 2: and more Giants fall to the Saints twenty four to six,

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Speaker 2: will be right back.

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Speaker 6: It'll be third and four at the Giants forty six.

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Speaker 6: Lance to the left of the car, who's in a

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Speaker 6: shotguns set Park takes your snap un the correct for

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Speaker 6: this time, and he's gonna get sacked back of the

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Speaker 6: forty five yard line. Jason Pinnock on a safety blitz

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Speaker 6: gets the sack.

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Speaker 21: We wanted to play that back just because we thought

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Speaker 21: it was.

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Speaker 2: One of the better best defensive plays the Giants made

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Speaker 2: over the course of the game. It was their only sack,

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Speaker 2: one of only two times a touch the quarterback, the

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Speaker 2: only one other quarterback hitting the game, JC and the

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Speaker 2: Saints actually picked it.

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Speaker 3: Up and Jamal Williams had him one on one.

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Speaker 2: And Pinoff made a really nice fake to Dick move inside,

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Speaker 2: then got back outside to make the move for the sack.

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Speaker 2: And you know, he's been one of the giants better blitzers,

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Speaker 2: and I think he showed it there. It's one thing

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Speaker 2: to be a free runner and get there, but to

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Speaker 2: make a man miss and win on a blitz that's

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Speaker 2: another story altogether.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean, that was a tremendous move by him.

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Speaker 4: You usually don't see defensive backs beating really anybody. You know,

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Speaker 4: they get their free sacks. But you know, he was

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Speaker 4: picked up by Williams. He had a great move and

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Speaker 4: one outside and was able to get a car on

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Speaker 4: the ground. So the Giants needed a lot more plays

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Speaker 4: like that to be competitive in this game, and they did,

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Speaker 4: they didn't produce it, you know, and look forward to

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Speaker 4: the Giants making some type of you know, adjustments, because man,

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Speaker 4: they got a beast coming in or I guess they're

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Speaker 4: going to a beast next week on Christmas in the

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Speaker 4: Fidel for Eagles, and the Giants must perform better defensively

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Speaker 4: and offensively to make that game a competitive game.

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Speaker 2: seven three three seven sixty six sixty six get your

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Speaker 2: reactions to giants twenty four to six loss to the Saints.

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Speaker 2: But before we do, let's welcome in from New Orleans

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Speaker 2: after I'm sure was a unbelievable night for him on

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Speaker 2: Berber Street last night. Probably not in quite as good

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Speaker 2: of a mood.

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Speaker 3: Right now. That's Paul Deatino, who just left the Giants

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Speaker 3: locker room. Paul, thanks for call. We always appreciate.

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Speaker 2: We know your time is tight there trying to get

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Speaker 2: on the bus to get to the airport. Give us

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Speaker 2: a feel for what the locker room was like. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: a demoralizing loss, twenty four to six offense couldn't get

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00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 2: anything going.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, John, I think demoralizing on a couple of fronts. Obviously,

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Speaker 13: after the three game winning speak, Sakuon Barkley admitted to

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00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 13: us that, you know, there were a lot of guys

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00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 13: starting to feel a buzz about let's make let's make

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Speaker 13: a run here and see if we can legitimately get

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00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 13: back into this thing. Well, this is a huge detour

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00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 13: sign in terms of that front, for sure. But the

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Speaker 13: other thing is that these guys chalked it up. Basically,

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Speaker 13: It's just like one of those days. It was a

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Speaker 13: day when everything the Saints did worked out well offensively

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00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,800
Speaker 13: and defensively, and nothing worked out well for the Giants.

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Speaker 13: I think that for me. As bad as the first

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Speaker 13: half was, and they weren't getting any balance because the

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Speaker 13: run blocking wasn't there, the pass protection wasn't there, they

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00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 13: were still in the game, I mean defensively, they were

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Speaker 13: still doing everything. Could just stay and then scratching calls.

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Speaker 13: I mean, it's a seven to sixth game at the break.

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Speaker 13: But what happens And then Bobbio Carica pointed to me

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Speaker 13: on this one, he goes, hey, we come out third quarter.

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Speaker 13: We allowed him to go right down the field and

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Speaker 13: get a touchdown. And then and then after the Giants

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Speaker 13: don't do anything with their first third quarter possession, the

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Speaker 13: Saints go right back again and get a fifty yu

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Speaker 13: field goal. And now all of a sudden, you know,

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Speaker 13: the snowballs starts rolling. And how many times our Big

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Speaker 13: Blue kickoff live do we talk about game flow.

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Speaker 15: Well, if there was.

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Speaker 13: Any chance to seize game flow. That's where the Saints

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Speaker 13: did it. And from that point forward, the snowball was

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Speaker 13: rolling so fast down the hill. Basically, the Giants from

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Speaker 13: taking to the guys the reaction wise, they just there

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Speaker 13: was nothing they could do to stop the bleeding.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and the Giants didn't play a clean game. I mean,

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Speaker 4: they had some penalties, but they came at like the

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Speaker 4: worst times in that drive right out of halftime. That

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Speaker 4: holding on of Dori Jackson on third and seven, an

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Speaker 4: incomplete pass that kept the drive going and kept the

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Speaker 4: drive alive, and the Giants kind of, you know, they

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Speaker 4: shot themselves in the.

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Speaker 3: Foot at times, drops too, right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and then the drops as well. And you know,

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Speaker 4: the Giants, they look like the team before the three

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Speaker 4: when the three in a row wins that they've had,

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Speaker 4: they looked like the team from before who really couldn't

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Speaker 4: get out of their own way, whether that was penalties,

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Speaker 4: drop passes, false starts, you know those things when you're

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Speaker 4: struggling to move the ball offensively and also defensively like

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Speaker 4: they did today, struggling to get off the field on

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Speaker 4: third down, the Saints being fifty percent on third down,

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Speaker 4: you can't make those mistakes. Those mistakes will come back

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00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 4: and haunt you. And after that drive, after the second half,

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00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 4: it was all Saints after that, offensively and defensively, and

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Speaker 4: the Giants really couldn't do anything after that.

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Speaker 13: Jonathan, you know how fond I am of keeping track

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Speaker 13: of plays above the x's and the ohs. Well, Giants

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Speaker 13: didn't get any of those plays today. And I mean

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Speaker 13: you talk about the fact that they were probably three

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Speaker 13: fingertip grab passes they could have caught that they got

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Speaker 13: fingertips on but didn't. And on the other side, every

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Speaker 13: single time that called through a bullet down there, his

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00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 13: guys made plays for him. Most of them were just

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Speaker 13: good passes and guys getting open and making the receptions,

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Speaker 13: but they were I think there was least two or

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Speaker 13: three in the first half important catches. Were those guys

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Speaker 13: hung along with their fingernails and they did make the

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Speaker 13: plays above the ex's and the o's, and you know

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Speaker 13: that put them in a better position ultimately when push

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Speaker 13: comes to shove. This was just a very very rough

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Speaker 13: game for the Giants all around, and as you said,

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Speaker 13: it looked like a throwback to a month ago.

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Speaker 2: And Paul, look, I think when we've seen the Giants

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00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 2: lose a lot of these games. It comes down to

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00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 2: not be able to win up front, and I think

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00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 2: we saw that again in this game. Right, the Giants

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00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 2: cannot protect their quarterback and they cannot lay a hand

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Speaker 2: on the Saints quarterback. The Saints were fine running the

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00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 2: ball three yards for carry eighty six yards, nothing special,

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00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 2: but the Giants were anemick in their traditional running game.

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00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 2: So the Saints offensive and defensive lines I think dominated

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00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,280
Speaker 2: those battles. And that's the case. You know, you're playing

882
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 2: a third string quarterback and Tommy Devido has been a

883
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 2: good story, but he still hasn't been you know, throwing.

884
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 2: He's only throwing for two undred yards once, right, It's

885
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 2: not like he's putting an offense on his back yet.

886
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:17,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, and throwing the drop passes.

887
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 2: But I think I want to get back there just

888
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 2: the just them losing up front again on both sides.

889
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 2: I mean, it's gonna be hard when you only get

890
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 2: one sack, you give up seven. Your two best defensive

891
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 2: players on Dexter Lawrence and Keevon Thibodau combined for three tackles,

892
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 2: not one tackle for loss, not one quarterback hit, let

893
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 2: alone a sack. I mean, it's gonna be really difficult

894
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 2: to win a football game when that happen.

895
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 4: And then also, I think you got to throw in

896
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 4: there that the Giants did not take the ball away,

897
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 4: and that's the thing that's been saving them this year,

898
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 4: the point, the ability to take the ball away. And

899
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 4: you can't overlook that because that's a it's not an

900
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:49,879
Speaker 4: easy thing to do. A lot of teams just don't

901
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 4: throw you the ball. The Giants have been taking the

902
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 4: ball away and they couldn't find a way to do

903
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 4: that today.

904
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 13: Yeah, John, you made a good point during the pregame

905
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 13: show when you said that, you know, even in the

906
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 13: first halves, during the three game winning streaks, they weren't necessarily,

907
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 13: you know, blowing the world on fire with their run game,

908
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 13: but they would stick with it because the game flow

909
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 13: allowed them to. And then sooner or later broncoly started

910
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 13: doing things and it would make a few big plays

911
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 13: and a few big runs, and that's kind of what

912
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 13: helped to propel the Giants over the top of those

913
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 13: second hands. Well, today, once the game flow got out

914
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 13: of hand and they lost all the momentum of the

915
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 13: game and the Saints had it, there was no patience,

916
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 13: and there was no ability to keep pounding the rock

917
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 13: and wait for Saquon to break one.

918
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 3: It just they got suffocated, absolutely, Paul.

919
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 2: And you know next week now you have to go

920
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:43,839
Speaker 2: down to the House of horrors known as Philadelphia, where

921
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 2: the Giants have not had a ton of success, as

922
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 2: you know, and now obviously with where they sat, obviously

923
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 2: mathematically alive in the playoffs, it's now just going to

924
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 2: be really really difficult to make any sort of run

925
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 2: here down the rest of the way.

926
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 13: Yeah, there's no doubt. I mean, you know, this game

927
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 13: they had they were able to put this one in

928
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,240
Speaker 13: their pocket. I mean, there would have been some very

929
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 13: serious buzz going down to that Christmas Day game in Philadelphia.

930
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 13: They had a chance to really put themselves in a

931
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 13: much better position, maybe even a realistic position, to try

932
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 13: to make some noise. But you know what they stumbled.

933
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,839
Speaker 13: They fell today and it is what it is.

934
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 3: Anything else down there, catch your ear that you want

935
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 3: to let us know about the.

936
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,800
Speaker 13: Phildelphia You know, you guys obviously know from the telecast.

937
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:33,280
Speaker 13: I'm sure that that Bullock had injured his hamstring early

938
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 13: and the field goal had barely made it across the

939
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 13: cross bar, and then he had a short kickoff following well,

940
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:41,479
Speaker 13: he came to the sideline and you know, they worked

941
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,720
Speaker 13: on him. He's like, no, he couldn't kick. So now Gillan,

942
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 13: who himself at one point had to have his left

943
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:51,439
Speaker 13: quad taped up early in the first half of the game,

944
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 13: wound up having to be the placekicker. Now, I think

945
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 13: Casey Kuider would have been the emergency kicker had Gylan

946
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 13: nothing able to go. But he he was, you know,

947
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:06,720
Speaker 13: obviously capable enough to handle you know, the two tours

948
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 13: handle the kickoffs, how to blind drive kickoff that. You know,

949
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,359
Speaker 13: it's clear he hadn't done that a whole lot. So

950
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 13: that was kind of funky. I didn't get a chance

951
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 13: to talk to Jamie, but but that certainly would have

952
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 13: been another one of these very unique circumstances that this

953
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,319
Speaker 13: twenty twenty three season has brought us.

954
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:27,720
Speaker 2: Paul say, Chile's my friend. We'll see you on Monday

955
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:29,240
Speaker 2: afternoon for Big Blue Kick Off Life.

956
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 13: Thanks n Try to stop the rain up there. I here,

957
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:32,720
Speaker 13: it's pretty nasty.

958
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 3: We could want to know. We don't have any windows

959
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 3: in here, Pauline.

960
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 4: They got us locked in in prison up here.

961
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 10: W fa N.

962
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 2: It could be Armagattin out there for all I know.

963
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 2: It's nice and quiet in the studio, but I will

964
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,240
Speaker 2: do my best for you. Paul Datino happy to here.

965
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 2: Good guys, talk to you tomorrow.

966
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:47,120
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969
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970
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974
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975
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976
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977
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979
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992
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993
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:54,319
Speaker 3: Let's listen in.

994
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:03,240
Speaker 21: Excuse to battles this everyone and including myself.

995
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 10: And it's as simple as that.

996
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 5: You make the game where you go to nightcaple see.

997
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 21: That my first song probably be my last. Get back

998
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 21: to drawing board, get ypine year.

999
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,840
Speaker 26: They seem to be enjoying kind of the chef's kiss

1000
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 26: and stuff like that when they made a play. Did

1001
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 26: you come into this game thinking that, you know, they

1002
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 26: might kind of get on you guys for that sort

1003
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 26: of thing, especially if the score ran out of.

1004
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 5: Hand with this?

1005
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 21: Yeah, it really see that that, But I mean, you

1006
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 21: know it comes with it and.

1007
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:41,359
Speaker 10: It's going good.

1008
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 5: You could you say about that?

1009
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 21: And you gotta expect for teams that when they got

1010
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 21: your number.

1011
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 4: So it is what it is.

1012
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:49,799
Speaker 5: You come and that's just.

1013
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:52,399
Speaker 15: The season.

1014
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 10: Last week seem like really turned the corn when the

1015
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:56,399
Speaker 10: game is online, the offensive one the game.

1016
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 7: How frustrating was it today and kind of have what

1017
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:01,800
Speaker 7: looked but like you know, are aggression to some of

1018
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 7: the start year.

1019
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 21: Yeah, it sucks. Uh, there's gotta gotta do better. We

1020
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 21: got your hats off to Saints over there in the defense.

1021
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 21: They play a great game. Davis is a heck of

1022
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 21: a player. Uh, that's probably. That's definitely what it was.

1023
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 21: And that's what football's gout. You got when your war ones,

1024
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:24,800
Speaker 21: you got any matchups.

1025
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 7: And when they do that, how much it's just you know,

1026
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 7: part of the progression for tim people think there's gonna

1027
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,760
Speaker 7: be games like this you just can't get it going.

1028
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:36,320
Speaker 5: Think just don't go your way.

1029
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 21: I mean, I think that's just the NFL. I don't

1030
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 21: think it's necessary just for Tommy. I think about everybody

1031
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 21: in his locker room.

1032
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:48,359
Speaker 5: Everybody off the side. It's part of it. It's part

1033
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:48,840
Speaker 5: of the league.

1034
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 21: You try to try your best stay away from it

1035
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 21: for some time. Games that are gonna happen, and we

1036
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 21: gotta do a better as we collectively play ourselves in

1037
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 21: that positions to make plays and when to play. It's

1038
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:03,359
Speaker 21: come making those plays when when things are going bad.

1039
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 4: And we didn't do that.

1040
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 21: And if you look at a lot of our games

1041
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 21: this year, the games that we lost, their games I

1042
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,240
Speaker 21: got out of hand. Uh, we never stopped the bleeding.

1043
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 21: That's been been a common theme in the games that

1044
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 21: have been bad for.

1045
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:16,799
Speaker 10: Us this year.

1046
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:19,280
Speaker 21: And you know, we got to find a way to

1047
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 21: get better in no situation.

1048
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,320
Speaker 7: One thing Commune actually said after you don't think the

1049
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 7: guys having your swag today was there was just lows.

1050
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 10: You can't get your swag when.

1051
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 21: There's nothing you can do. Uh, you lose it defense.

1052
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 21: You know, personally, I know that's for a running back.

1053
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 21: You know when you're not you're not able to get

1054
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 21: in the flout. It did a really good job with

1055
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 21: going with me personally not me and letting me get

1056
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 21: into a flow in your confidence. And I don't even

1057
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 21: know if I had a run that broke past pot

1058
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 21: six seven yards. That's part of the game. So you

1059
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 21: can't play with swag, you can't play with confidence where

1060
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 21: you just getting beat. And that's all of us, Like

1061
00:46:57,719 --> 00:46:59,319
Speaker 21: I said, match up the game and we're didn't do

1062
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 21: we didn't do no job.

1063
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 10: Were they doing name specific to stop and running anything different?

1064
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 10: I mean, I think they did a little more movement

1065
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:06,399
Speaker 10: in the first and second game.

1066
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 21: That's been a common theme the last couple of weeks

1067
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 21: with teams that we've been playing against.

1068
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 3: Make a little more pressure, a little more little mental.

1069
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 10: You know, mess up our eyes.

1070
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:16,919
Speaker 15: In a running game.

1071
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 10: It's kind of like a run stop pressure.

1072
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 21: And they were just winning every single year everywhere, just

1073
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 21: from myself included, They're just being this same one.

1074
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 5: Think you'll allow yourself.

1075
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 9: You've been through a lot obviously, but think you allow

1076
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:32,800
Speaker 9: yourself with this three game winning streak, you could think

1077
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:35,280
Speaker 9: maybe this team is gonna have a little.

1078
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 10: Magical run here, you know. I mean, you know, you

1079
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 10: know you have to win the.

1080
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:40,360
Speaker 9: Games, but you got yourself back into some sort of

1081
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 9: playoff contention kind of sense that maybe something we're ruined here.

1082
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 5: Uh yeah, you know that.

1083
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 3: That's definitely it's true.

1084
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 21: I felt we all felt like that, and we still

1085
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 21: feel like that. Like I said, until the mathematical I've

1086
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:54,479
Speaker 21: just always going to continue to believe.

1087
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 15: I mean, the beauty of it is, uh, you know.

1088
00:47:58,400 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 10: We'll guarantee three more games.

1089
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 21: We'll guaranteed him against the divisional vible Chile, the great environment.

1090
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 2: Got to hear all right, two things JC that I

1091
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 2: want to go on my little soapbox about here. Yeah,

1092
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 2: Saquon's a thousand percent right. I'm with him, and I'm

1093
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 2: happy he answered it the way he did. Yeah, you

1094
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 2: can't have any swag when you can't get first downs.

1095
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 2: I mean, you can't generate swag in confidence that comes

1096
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:31,399
Speaker 2: from being successful on the field. The execution comes first,

1097
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 2: the swag comes second.

1098
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, absolutely, it has to be organic. Yeah, it

1099
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 4: has to be organic. It has to be something that

1100
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 4: comes from the soul, from the heart. And not to

1101
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 4: say that they didn't have that today, but they just

1102
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 4: couldn't get going, you know. And and we talked about

1103
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 4: that first drive that was extended by roughing the punt.

1104
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 4: Was it was it roughing running into the kick running

1105
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 4: into so that was extended to drive. But like the

1106
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 4: Giants really could didn't have any rhythm at all. Offensively. Defensively,

1107
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 4: they were moving, I think, you know, holding uh the

1108
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:03,240
Speaker 4: Saints to basically one touchdown in the first half.

1109
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 20: You know.

1110
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 4: Defensively, they had some type of rhythm. But then coming

1111
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 4: out in the second half, they had that long drive

1112
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 4: that took up half the sec the third quarter, excuse me,

1113
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 4: and then it kind of started just the momentum was

1114
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 4: snatched away from the Giants by the Saints and they

1115
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 4: just never relinquished it. And usually to get that momentum back,

1116
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,320
Speaker 4: you have to take it back, and the Giants didn't

1117
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 4: do anything offensively or defensively in the second half to

1118
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:29,399
Speaker 4: take that momentum back.

1119
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:32,839
Speaker 2: Second thing, this happens all the time. Let's not make

1120
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:35,800
Speaker 2: a big deal about the Saints defenders doing the you

1121
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 2: know the Quotebob Pop of the Italian thing after they

1122
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 2: sacked Tommy DeVito. This is what happens, folks, when you

1123
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 2: come up with a thing that catches fire. Remember when

1124
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers used to do you do the discount double check?

1125
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:48,839
Speaker 4: Yeah? I did it too, I did it. I could

1126
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:49,320
Speaker 4: Will you do it?

1127
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 2: If you go sack him or pick him off? You

1128
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:53,839
Speaker 2: know what you're doing. You're doing the discount double check. Yeah,

1129
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 2: just the way it goes.

1130
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 4: That's how it is. And the Giants were, you know,

1131
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 4: riding high the three game win streak. A lot of

1132
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 4: Timmy de Vito, so a lot of Italians in Jersey,

1133
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:04,279
Speaker 4: New York was doing it, you know, but this was

1134
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 4: a you know, a slap a slap back down in reality.

1135
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 4: You know, it is the NFL. This is a hard

1136
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 4: league to you know, to win games, and you know,

1137
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 4: and you see it week to week.

1138
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 20: You know.

1139
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:16,759
Speaker 4: Even teams like the philip Eagles, who were this offensive,

1140
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 4: defensive juggernaut you know, represented the NFC in the Super

1141
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 4: Bowl last year, they lost their last two games by

1142
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 4: overt ten twenty points, if I'm not mistaken. So that's

1143
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:26,919
Speaker 4: how the league works.

1144
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 2: You know.

1145
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:28,879
Speaker 4: The Giants got to get back to the drawing board

1146
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 4: and put together a good product out there on Christmas Day.

1147
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 4: If not, the game will be lopside of the Giants

1148
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 4: must perform better than they put out today.

1149
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 2: Eight seven seven three three seven sixty six sixty six.

1150
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 2: Let's squeeze in one call before we wrap up the network.

1151
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 10: Here.

1152
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 3: Cliff is in Manhattan. Cliff, what's going on?

1153
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 14: Hey guys, thanks for the wrap up.

1154
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 19: Listen.

1155
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 14: I'm glad Tommy called himself out on the deep ball

1156
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 14: of Slaton. I thought we really needed that and he

1157
00:50:55,200 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 14: under threw him and I think, uh, you predicted it,

1158
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 14: John and it happened that when the Saints went three

1159
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 14: and out on their first possession, they were booed and

1160
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:10,320
Speaker 14: and if we were, you know, still looking okay, but

1161
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 14: then this guy to Mario Davis shows up like and

1162
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 14: and maybe the Saints weren't all that bad. And I

1163
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 14: was worried about there at Carr in the beginning of

1164
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 14: the year, and I thought he wasn't doing very well,

1165
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:23,839
Speaker 14: and today he looked awfully good. But I'm wondering about

1166
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:26,320
Speaker 14: the crowd. I think was really the whole story, because

1167
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:29,800
Speaker 14: we never took them out of the game. And I

1168
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 14: wonder what kind of a chance the offensive line had

1169
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 14: to communicate with each other. And I think it also

1170
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 14: takes Kafka out of the game. And I mean, what

1171
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 14: what can they do if if they just can't get

1172
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 14: anything going? And how do you explain surehanded guys, I

1173
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 14: mean Slayton and the rookie Hyatt, I mean they don't

1174
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 14: drop those Oh well.

1175
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 2: Well, Well has had has had consistent issues of drop

1176
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 2: stratus career.

1177
00:51:55,040 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 14: Well I thought he had gotten better. In any event, Uh,

1178
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 14: we we needed to take the crowd out of the game.

1179
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:06,760
Speaker 14: We never came close to doing it, and their defense

1180
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:09,919
Speaker 14: probably got the crowd into the game when when they're

1181
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:12,799
Speaker 14: when our defense was doing okay early. I just thought

1182
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:14,359
Speaker 14: that was the whole thing. And I'm glad say Quan

1183
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 14: mentioned that he noticed nobody quick because I noticed that,

1184
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 14: and you know, I thought that was pretty good. And

1185
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:23,320
Speaker 14: and you know, this is still a team with character.

1186
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 14: I think we have a chance, not necessarily to win

1187
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 14: Christmas Day, but certainly to look a heck of a

1188
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 14: lot better. You know, this reminded me of when we

1189
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 14: go to Seattle and you're watching your team and it's like, Gee,

1190
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:37,280
Speaker 14: my team doesn't look any good anymore. What's the matter, Cliff?

1191
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 2: Look, people's people succeed in loud buildings all the time.

1192
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 2: You have to know how to communicate and execute on

1193
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 2: the offensive line, even if it's lowed JC, that is

1194
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 2: no excuse.

1195
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it didn't look like there was, you know,

1196
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 4: too many remnants of a loud crowd. You know, there

1197
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:52,320
Speaker 4: were there was one false start, I believe, and that

1198
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 4: was that was kind of gimmicky too. I guess I

1199
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:57,799
Speaker 4: was on pew he was like rolling forward. I don't

1200
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 4: but he was the one actually initiated the snap with

1201
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 4: the tap to the center, you know, So I don't

1202
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:07,320
Speaker 4: think the crowd factor was a major play today and

1203
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:10,400
Speaker 4: New Orleans usually, I mean I played down there and

1204
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 4: it has been deafening. It wasn't close to that today.

1205
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 4: Did it have an effect, Yes, I don't think it

1206
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:19,280
Speaker 4: was that much of an effect because usually there's false starts,

1207
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:22,800
Speaker 4: there's time outs, you know, there's communication errors. I didn't

1208
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:25,280
Speaker 4: really see that happening too much. You know, the Giants

1209
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:27,880
Speaker 4: just flat out got beat today by a team that

1210
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:30,800
Speaker 4: performed better. You know, when it came down to it,

1211
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 4: you know, both teams were not out of the playoff race.

1212
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 4: You know, still not out of the playoff race. The

1213
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 4: Saints just looked like they wanted it a little bit more.

1214
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:41,759
Speaker 4: You know, they performed a lot better today than the

1215
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 4: Giants did. They were efficient on third down fifty percent,

1216
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 4: which is very very good in the Giants. The Giants

1217
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 4: defensively has been good on third downs, but the Saints

1218
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 4: turned it around today. They were efficient on third down,

1219
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,400
Speaker 4: They made the plays when they were supposed to make it,

1220
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 4: no turnovers. They protected their quarterback he only got hit once,

1221
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:01,320
Speaker 4: sacked once, and able to move the ball kind of

1222
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:04,440
Speaker 4: at will throughout this entire game. The Giants forced them

1223
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 4: to punt a couple of times. But besides that, the

1224
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 4: Saints kind of did what they wanted offensively, and the

1225
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 4: Giants had no answer defensively and putting out six points.

1226
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:14,919
Speaker 4: You know, we already talked about this in the beginning season.

1227
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 4: The Giants need to score more points than that. You know,

1228
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 4: I don't know what the average is now, but the

1229
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 4: last three weeks the Giants output has been way more

1230
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 4: than six points. That's why they've been winning games. And defensively,

1231
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:27,840
Speaker 4: you're allowed to have a bad game here and.

1232
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 3: There, except for the Patriots game. They will put ten

1233
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 3: up in that game, right Yeah.

1234
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 4: And there's a couple of times where the Giants, you know,

1235
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 4: offensively they didn't perform how they won to they still

1236
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 4: end up winning the game. That's because of their defense.

1237
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 3: But they were really good against Washington and Green Bay,

1238
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 3: which is two of the three games.

1239
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 4: And I said this before. The Giants cannot rely on

1240
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 4: their defense taking the ball away multiple times. Yes, the

1241
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:51,320
Speaker 4: Giants have to have offensive some type of offensive ability

1242
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:54,320
Speaker 4: to stay on the field and extend drives, convert on

1243
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 4: third downs, you know, not go you know, I don't

1244
00:54:57,560 --> 00:54:59,919
Speaker 4: know what the percentage was of success on first down,

1245
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:01,879
Speaker 4: but I know it was horrendous today.

1246
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 2: Well, Papa had the stat on third downs when there

1247
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:06,319
Speaker 2: were two of sixteen, ten of those were for nine

1248
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:09,320
Speaker 2: of more yards attempts I mean, and seven of was

1249
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 2: for twelve or more yards. So their early down offense

1250
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:14,919
Speaker 2: is what's set up their failures on third down.

1251
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:18,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm pretty sure the first and second down conversions

1252
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:21,839
Speaker 4: looked very similar to what they did on third down,

1253
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 4: you know, And that's usually what leads to it. You

1254
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 4: don't have success on first down, it makes it a

1255
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 4: struggle for second down and then the third and longs.

1256
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,399
Speaker 4: The Giants really haven't been good at all this year

1257
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:34,879
Speaker 4: on third and long, and they basically played on third

1258
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 4: and long all night tonight, you know, And that's not

1259
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:41,719
Speaker 4: a recipe for success, especially when you have been struggling offensively.

1260
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 2: Absolutely all right, everybody, please stick with us if you're

1261
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:47,319
Speaker 2: listening on our local flags of station WFAN.

1262
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:48,400
Speaker 3: But right now it's time to.

1263
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 2: Say goodbye to our affiliates across the country on our

1264
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 2: Giants Radio network. Our next broadcast will be next Monday,

1265
00:55:55,840 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 2: Christmas Day for twenty five Kick the Giants. We'll travel

1266
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:03,719
Speaker 2: to Philadelphia to take on the Eagles kickoff at four

1267
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 2: to twenty five again three twenty five pre game on

1268
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 2: our network. Make sure you come and check us out,

1269
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 2: open the Gifts, have a great morning, and then roof

1270
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 2: for your Giants against.

1271
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 3: The hated Philadelphia Eagles. Thanks for listening to everybody.

1272
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:20,080
Speaker 2: We will see you next week on the WFAN Giants

1273
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:20,920
Speaker 2: Radio Network.

1274
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 3: But we're not done right here on WFN in New York.

1275
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 2: If you're listening on our flagship, Jonathan Casias and I

1276
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 2: will be back to take your calls at eight seven

1277
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:32,799
Speaker 2: seven three three seven sixty six sixty six. We'll get

1278
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:37,840
Speaker 2: more from the locker room downstairs that all is coming your.

1279
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:39,719
Speaker 3: Way right here on the fan. We'll be right there.

1280
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:52,400
Speaker 2: We're back here on Pepsi Giants Extra Point. John Schmolke,

1281
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 2: Jonathan Casias with you right here on the fan. The

1282
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 2: Giants faull to the Saints twenty four to six. Guys,

1283
00:56:57,239 --> 00:56:59,359
Speaker 2: get on the lines eight seven seven three three seven

1284
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 2: sixty six sixty six. So about fifty minutes or so,

1285
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:05,520
Speaker 2: we'll go to six o'clock to take your calls right

1286
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:08,880
Speaker 2: here on Pepsi Giants Extra Point. Jimmie Gillen did a

1287
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:11,880
Speaker 2: really nice job putting the football four through some injuries

1288
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:13,839
Speaker 2: came in as the place kicker kicked the forty yard

1289
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 2: if you go. For the Giants, we had a chance

1290
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 2: to catch up with them in the locker room after

1291
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 2: the game.

1292
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 3: Let's listen in.

1293
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah it was cool. Yeah, it was nice.

1294
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 17: Uh, Casey snapped a great snap and the gunners an athlete,

1295
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 17: so he had a great hole three.

1296
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 10: So the rest of it's easy for me just to

1297
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 10: poke it through. Well, if I remember when you remember

1298
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 10: your first field gun turns founds?

1299
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 17: Oh yeah, oh man sixty two yarder December, put it

1300
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 17: five deep in the end zone. Brutal, So it was

1301
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 17: nice to get one.

1302
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 10: Yet where was kicked the field man preseason last year?

1303
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 10: And when I did that in preseason?

1304
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 18: Yeah?

1305
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 10: So Jay love Hagos, that's last time and did it

1306
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 10: all right? Yeah, thank you, Jamie.

1307
00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 16: I'm riding the piece on the if we call in

1308
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 16: international players plays. So obviously I thought it was gonna

1309
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 16: be about hate shaming. The point of it today you

1310
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 16: turn into the kicker as well. Yeah, what was that

1311
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 16: like when the moment, for example, when you cook hit,

1312
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 16: what goes straight ahead?

1313
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:15,919
Speaker 10: Nothing? Just you gotta go when your name gets called.

1314
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 10: I'm just gonna go and do it.

1315
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 17: You know, I'll say me and Casey just talk about

1316
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 17: being built for it, right, you just do whatever you

1317
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 17: can for the team.

1318
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 10: You're not gonna say no. You know I can do

1319
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 10: I did it in college, gendered all three in college.

1320
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 10: So just go and do it. And then I feel

1321
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 10: for Randy and sucks. But when.

1322
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:36,440
Speaker 16: Is there a processing place before the game where you

1323
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 16: know who the hole is going to be.

1324
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 5: You know that it's gonna be you.

1325
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 10: It's kicking.

1326
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 17: Yeah, So backup holder is Gunner. He's a great athlete.

1327
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 17: So he stepped in and he had a great ball case.

1328
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 17: He snapped a great ball, and we just won't get

1329
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 17: it done.

1330
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 16: You know, I think he's not gonna before the Patriots.

1331
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 16: But it's a difficult v It different. Have you been

1332
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 16: a left foot kicker?

1333
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 10: It is and even when I for just for a giggle,

1334
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 10: all for a left he is totally different. And he

1335
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 10: did a great job. Complaint of that, yeah, absolutely hoping

1336
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:06,560
Speaker 10: went out for the result.

1337
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 16: Yeah yeah, and just quickly because I'm doing wide the

1338
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:11,920
Speaker 16: piece on you obviously, I mean we shoul Scott issue.

1339
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 16: What's what's it like for you in terms.

1340
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 20: Of being in the NFL and playing behind like a

1341
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:20,560
Speaker 20: few international players in the NFL, Scottish players is the

1342
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:22,600
Speaker 20: kind of well, if you feel like you know you

1343
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:25,000
Speaker 20: you're representing Scotland in the n probably just happened to

1344
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:26,360
Speaker 20: be Scottish playing.

1345
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 5: In the NFL.

1346
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:29,320
Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm really proud to be Scottish and I'm proud

1347
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 10: of that, especially.

1348
00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 17: My journey to get to where I'm at, going to

1349
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:34,440
Speaker 17: HBCU and spending four years there and.

1350
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:37,200
Speaker 10: Then coming out there and playing right away for the Browns.

1351
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:39,959
Speaker 17: So I'm always proud of that, and it's it's cool

1352
00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:42,480
Speaker 17: to be because Great Grano is Scottish character as well.

1353
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 10: That's the sort of things of you know, being one

1354
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 10: a few in the NFL as a foreign player or

1355
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 10: something proud of.

1356
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 17: Hopefully people back home and see that it can be done,

1357
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:54,880
Speaker 17: and anybody there just kicking a ball or whatever try

1358
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 17: and get a Scottish out of the state because you

1359
00:59:58,120 --> 01:00:00,680
Speaker 17: know they're getting fir for free.

1360
01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:04,240
Speaker 10: Getting the training you do and walking out a four

1361
01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:06,960
Speaker 10: year degree with a degree for three years. It's amazing.

1362
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 17: No, I was I probably wasn't going to get into

1363
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 17: the university that calls my leg got me at university

1364
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 17: here and then the having the chance to make it

1365
01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:16,800
Speaker 17: to the NFL has been great and still staying in

1366
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:19,520
Speaker 17: it just it's it's hard to get in, it's even

1367
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:20,080
Speaker 17: hard to stay in.

1368
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:21,960
Speaker 10: So you just keep working as hard as you can.

1369
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 17: And there's lots of talented punters and kickers out there,

1370
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 17: especially receives the good Jet scholarships out you know, I

1371
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:28,520
Speaker 17: know they do.

1372
01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's Jamie Gilling after the game again kick that

1373
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:34,640
Speaker 2: field goal, stepping in doing a nice job for Randy

1374
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:36,800
Speaker 2: Bullock after he pulled his hamstring and fighting through an

1375
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 2: injury himself to kick that field goal and it did

1376
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:41,960
Speaker 2: a nice job punting the ball as well for the

1377
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:44,919
Speaker 2: New York Football Giants eight seven seven three three seven

1378
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:47,080
Speaker 2: sixty six sixty. So go to the phones and say

1379
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:49,600
Speaker 2: what's up to Robbie and Lenox. He's up next on

1380
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:50,800
Speaker 2: PEPSI Giants extra point.

1381
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:52,520
Speaker 10: Hi, Robbie, what's going on? John?

1382
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:53,760
Speaker 13: How are you guys? Thanks for taking my.

1383
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:55,040
Speaker 3: Call, Thanks for calling. What's up?

1384
01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:58,600
Speaker 13: Yeah? I have a lot of questions, but Mike Coopka

1385
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:00,960
Speaker 13: and the way you all so I look the opportive

1386
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:03,440
Speaker 13: why that we do and they can't block? But I

1387
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:05,560
Speaker 13: talked to you guys weeks ago, and I said to them,

1388
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:07,720
Speaker 13: why if they throwing up Barkley in the Platin point.

1389
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:10,080
Speaker 13: You see the way that Alvin kamarras used by New Orleans.

1390
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:12,040
Speaker 13: I mean, it's so ridiculous. We know that the guy's

1391
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:14,560
Speaker 13: not creating scrimmage. You know, the line's not great at blocking.

1392
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:16,640
Speaker 13: But if you from the fall of barkating flat, that's

1393
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:19,480
Speaker 13: grands balance excel. That story's in an open field, you

1394
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:20,720
Speaker 13: can do a lot of things. The other thing too,

1395
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:23,720
Speaker 13: is that, I mean, there's no imagination in this offense whatsoever.

1396
01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:24,680
Speaker 13: I mean, there really isn't.

1397
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:27,120
Speaker 2: Robbie Robbie time out, time out, time out, timeout, ten out,

1398
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:30,480
Speaker 2: last week, timeout last week. Through three quarters, they had

1399
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:32,760
Speaker 2: one hundred and forty four rushing yards when their primary

1400
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:34,120
Speaker 2: running back had twenty five.

1401
01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:37,760
Speaker 3: That's not creativit in the offense a little bit.

1402
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:38,560
Speaker 17: But today we'll look.

1403
01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:40,960
Speaker 13: It's all about matchups too, job, It's all about matches.

1404
01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 15: We know that.

1405
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:43,200
Speaker 13: I just I just feel that I just feel it

1406
01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:45,880
Speaker 13: cocked it. Sometimes I just feel there's too much running

1407
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:48,680
Speaker 13: Barkley from scrimmage. And this is one thing I don't

1408
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:50,080
Speaker 13: like to see. And the other thing too, you know,

1409
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:53,120
Speaker 13: they don't use you know their tight end up. I

1410
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:54,560
Speaker 13: know they threw that. And the other thing is too,

1411
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:56,680
Speaker 13: is like, okay, here's the question too. They don't sit

1412
01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:58,640
Speaker 13: up screens. Well, why I would you just get a

1413
01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 13: first stand? You at first they go first to go,

1414
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:02,920
Speaker 13: but first the thirty five yard might yet first and time?

1415
01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:05,480
Speaker 13: Why he keeps going these screens? They don't seem to work.

1416
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:07,920
Speaker 13: They go for the negative orgy and just don't I

1417
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:09,520
Speaker 13: just don't get it, like, why can't they just throw

1418
01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:11,520
Speaker 13: the ball forward? The other thing too, is do you just.

1419
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:13,439
Speaker 3: Said you want them to throw the barkley in the flat?

1420
01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:15,400
Speaker 3: Then they throw screen passes and you don't like that either.

1421
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:18,640
Speaker 13: Well, they told a lot of screen passes great straight

1422
01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:20,640
Speaker 13: ahead that they don't block up the screen, But when

1423
01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:22,960
Speaker 13: they get barkley in the flat, there's much more talented in.

1424
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:23,880
Speaker 5: The open fielding's done.

1425
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:26,120
Speaker 13: He's not a great experience runner. He's not he's not

1426
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:26,919
Speaker 13: quick in the home.

1427
01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:27,960
Speaker 15: He's just not there.

1428
01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:30,120
Speaker 13: It's kind of strength. And don't know why they keep

1429
01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:33,200
Speaker 13: continuing to run, you know all the time. I agree

1430
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:35,320
Speaker 13: with the guys did when Dexter, when Dexter's not playing

1431
01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:38,560
Speaker 13: well and tip it on Stuffy dexter. The defense doesn't detracted,

1432
01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:40,520
Speaker 13: but it wasn't the defensive flat completed. When you have

1433
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:43,240
Speaker 13: to bull the experience in forty seven seconds in a quarter.

1434
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:44,760
Speaker 15: It's not a lot of time.

1435
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 13: So I don't know why to go from here. Guys,

1436
01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:48,480
Speaker 13: I guess Tommy's playing next week. But the question he's

1437
01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:51,680
Speaker 13: doing about why why did why didn't Tyrot play? I mean,

1438
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:54,320
Speaker 13: the second guy in to Mandy's an NFL experienced quarterback.

1439
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:57,000
Speaker 13: Why didn't he give you a better chance than Tommy Debrido? Honestly,

1440
01:02:57,040 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 13: I know Tommy did a good job last week, but

1441
01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:01,640
Speaker 13: my question is why why would you take Tyrid and

1442
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:04,640
Speaker 13: shit him back? But is what I'm trying to figure out.

1443
01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:07,800
Speaker 13: Like with a guy like Ty's paying more money, he's

1444
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:09,919
Speaker 13: got more experiences in the starting quarterback in the league.

1445
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:12,120
Speaker 13: So I just get you.

1446
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:18,360
Speaker 2: No, I appreciate it, man, Thanks for calling in bro

1447
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:21,720
Speaker 2: you guys, Okay, thank you man, Jase.

1448
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:24,120
Speaker 3: I'll let you take one any any part of that

1449
01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:24,800
Speaker 3: you like.

1450
01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:28,280
Speaker 4: Well, look the point with Tyrod that he was making.

1451
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 4: I love Tyrod. I've been a proponent of him, be

1452
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:32,720
Speaker 4: a support of him ever since I met him, like

1453
01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:35,280
Speaker 4: ten years ago. You know, I think he's amazing, dude.

1454
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:38,000
Speaker 4: He's a great football player, you know. But Timmy DeVito,

1455
01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:39,920
Speaker 4: he wasn't the problem today.

1456
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:41,920
Speaker 3: He earned his way into the starting role.

1457
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:45,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, and he and he earned his you know, his

1458
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:48,680
Speaker 4: way not to be benched, you know, because this wasn't

1459
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:52,680
Speaker 4: a Timy DeVito. He played horrible game. That's the reason

1460
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:55,360
Speaker 4: why the Giants lost. No, it was a collective effort,

1461
01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:57,720
Speaker 4: you know. And in terms of Mike Kafka into play calling,

1462
01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:00,960
Speaker 4: this is what I noticed, Smill. Giants really don't have

1463
01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:04,320
Speaker 4: a bread and butter play or scheme that they go

1464
01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:07,680
Speaker 4: to when it's either you know, their backs to the wall.

1465
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:10,080
Speaker 4: You know, they gotta have it, you know. And and

1466
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:12,760
Speaker 4: Kafka is just trying to be creative to see what

1467
01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:16,200
Speaker 4: works with this combination of offensive linemen that they have.

1468
01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:21,080
Speaker 4: You know, remember the left guard is Justin Pugh. Justin Pugh,

1469
01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:24,680
Speaker 4: you know, he's famously saying quoted straight off the couch.

1470
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:28,080
Speaker 4: He is the starting left guard, you know. And in

1471
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:31,680
Speaker 4: the right tackle Evan Neil and you know, he's been

1472
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:34,800
Speaker 4: criticized as not playing, well he's not playing. You know,

1473
01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:39,360
Speaker 4: Giants have a backup guy at right tackle playing. It's

1474
01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:41,840
Speaker 4: hard to run screens, and Schmelkey we talked about this.

1475
01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:46,400
Speaker 4: It's hard to run screens. Screens take a lot of timing,

1476
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:49,560
Speaker 4: it takes a lot of chemistry, and everybody has to

1477
01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:51,800
Speaker 4: be on the same page. And I don't know how

1478
01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:54,960
Speaker 4: many times they actually practice this with this, you know,

1479
01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:58,640
Speaker 4: setup of offensive linemen, I think Kafka's just trying to

1480
01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:02,160
Speaker 4: figure out what do the Giants do well, what could

1481
01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 4: they lean their hat on, And because of the carousel

1482
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:07,920
Speaker 4: that's been the offensive line this year, it's hard to

1483
01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:11,360
Speaker 4: identify what that is. I don't know what the Giants

1484
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:13,720
Speaker 4: can do offensively that they know can work and that

1485
01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:15,640
Speaker 4: I know can work, that I know they can catch

1486
01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:19,440
Speaker 4: the defense with. Because I think the injuries that's happened

1487
01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:22,880
Speaker 4: along the offensive line, the injuries that happened at quarterback,

1488
01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:26,840
Speaker 4: it's hard to really find your identity offensively when all

1489
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:30,000
Speaker 4: of those factors are apparent this year and the Giants

1490
01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:33,000
Speaker 4: at Kafka, he's just trying to figure out what really

1491
01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:35,400
Speaker 4: works for these guys, and I think they're still trying

1492
01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:37,080
Speaker 4: to figure it out. I don't know if that'll be

1493
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:39,760
Speaker 4: answered this year, but I know they're heading in the

1494
01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:41,800
Speaker 4: right direction. I think this game was a little bit

1495
01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:44,080
Speaker 4: of a step back in terms of what they're doing

1496
01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:47,320
Speaker 4: offensively and defensively. But the Giants the last three weeks,

1497
01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:49,360
Speaker 4: you can't take anything from them what they've done. I

1498
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:52,560
Speaker 4: think they have improved, but you know they're due for

1499
01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:54,280
Speaker 4: a bad game, and I say do for a bad game.

1500
01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:58,200
Speaker 4: You're not gonna have magical games every single night. Look

1501
01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:00,720
Speaker 4: around the league. The best team in it NFC the

1502
01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:03,840
Speaker 4: San Francisco forty nine ers. They lost three games straight

1503
01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:05,960
Speaker 4: in the middle of the season and everybody was kind

1504
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:07,880
Speaker 4: of writing them off, and then they corrected it. I'm

1505
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:10,480
Speaker 4: not comparing the Giants to them. I'm just comparing teams.

1506
01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:14,200
Speaker 4: Teams are teams. This is the NFL. Things happen. Take

1507
01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:16,400
Speaker 4: a step forward, take a step backwards. I think tonight

1508
01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:18,760
Speaker 4: was a little bit of a step backwards for the Giants,

1509
01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:21,400
Speaker 4: But I don't see anything where they can't fix and

1510
01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:24,160
Speaker 4: they can't correct to help them next week against the Eagles.

1511
01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:27,439
Speaker 2: And it's very difficult to get creative in your play

1512
01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:30,680
Speaker 2: calling and find those go to plays JAC when you

1513
01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:31,960
Speaker 2: can't extend drives.

1514
01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:33,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, you mentioned with they have.

1515
01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:35,440
Speaker 2: Four or five to three announced in this game, they'd

1516
01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:38,120
Speaker 2: have one drive that went more than fifty yards. Until

1517
01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:40,960
Speaker 2: you're getting into a rhythm and you start seeing what's worked,

1518
01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:43,320
Speaker 2: then you can work plays off of that. If just

1519
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:45,480
Speaker 2: nothing works, and a lot of that, again has to

1520
01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:48,120
Speaker 2: do with your offensive line play. How can you start

1521
01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:50,800
Speaker 2: doing creative things and start getting into a rhythm and

1522
01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:53,800
Speaker 2: working off of plays when you can't do the simple

1523
01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:57,280
Speaker 2: football feat of blocking the man in front of you,

1524
01:06:57,720 --> 01:06:59,480
Speaker 2: And that's what we saw today. Wasn't just a pass

1525
01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:01,800
Speaker 2: protection was the run blocking yep. And the only thing

1526
01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:04,040
Speaker 2: that worked today was the Tommy DeVito readoption.

1527
01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:04,360
Speaker 4: Yep.

1528
01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:05,400
Speaker 3: It was the only thing that worked.

1529
01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:07,520
Speaker 2: And that's something you could only do a certain amount

1530
01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:09,960
Speaker 2: of times A because the other team will start reading it. B.

1531
01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:11,960
Speaker 2: You don't want your quarterback to get killed, which which

1532
01:07:12,040 --> 01:07:13,480
Speaker 2: he did, which he almost did by the way, he

1533
01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:14,840
Speaker 2: needed to leave the game, and then in the first

1534
01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:17,160
Speaker 2: half to get checked for a head injury. So you

1535
01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:21,040
Speaker 2: put all that together. When you can't do fundamental things

1536
01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:24,560
Speaker 2: correctly and frankly, when your guys and your weapons in

1537
01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:28,320
Speaker 2: the passing game, JC can't win one on one consistently,

1538
01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:31,200
Speaker 2: which is another thing we saw today. It's hard to

1539
01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:34,240
Speaker 2: scheme around all of that to have a successful offense

1540
01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:36,040
Speaker 2: that looks like it's in a flow and in a

1541
01:07:36,080 --> 01:07:36,560
Speaker 2: good rhythm.

1542
01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:39,080
Speaker 4: And then you know this game, how this flow went.

1543
01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:43,800
Speaker 4: When the Giants had the ball, the the defense for

1544
01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:47,080
Speaker 4: the Saints was affecting the quarterback play, meaning they were

1545
01:07:47,120 --> 01:07:49,800
Speaker 4: getting in the backfield. The Mario Davis you know, popped

1546
01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:52,800
Speaker 4: it off with a sack, and they were consistently you know,

1547
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:56,080
Speaker 4: causing pressure when Tommy DeVito dropped back. So what was

1548
01:07:56,120 --> 01:07:58,880
Speaker 4: the answer for Kafka. Kafka started to bring to keep

1549
01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:02,320
Speaker 4: guys in. They saw to keep tight ending, keep running backs.

1550
01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:04,160
Speaker 3: In and all the way Barkley wasn't in the flat

1551
01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:04,720
Speaker 3: he was.

1552
01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:09,200
Speaker 4: You know, and and then that created you know, a

1553
01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:12,160
Speaker 4: more of an advantage down the field in terms of

1554
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:15,600
Speaker 4: the number of receivers that were available for the Giants

1555
01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:18,120
Speaker 4: and the number of defenders that were available for the Saints.

1556
01:08:18,520 --> 01:08:20,799
Speaker 4: That's why a lot of times it wasn't nobody opened

1557
01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:23,280
Speaker 4: because some of the guys were getting doubled. They're running

1558
01:08:23,320 --> 01:08:25,479
Speaker 4: from a zone to a zone where there were multiple

1559
01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:28,000
Speaker 4: defenders in all of those zones. And then on top

1560
01:08:28,040 --> 01:08:31,760
Speaker 4: of that, you add those those drops into that that situation,

1561
01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:35,120
Speaker 4: you know, that causes that kind of anemic offense that

1562
01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:38,360
Speaker 4: you saw today. The Giants tried to answer what the

1563
01:08:38,439 --> 01:08:41,360
Speaker 4: Saints were doing defensively, but they really couldn't. And when

1564
01:08:41,360 --> 01:08:43,200
Speaker 4: they did, it would be a drop or it'd be

1565
01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:45,960
Speaker 4: a penalty or something like that. And the Giants have

1566
01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:48,559
Speaker 4: been in, you know, gotten themselves in the situation where

1567
01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:50,800
Speaker 4: they shot themselves in the foot. Today was one of

1568
01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:51,760
Speaker 4: those games where they did that.

1569
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:54,880
Speaker 3: Eight seven seven three three seven sixty six sixty six.

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1571
01:08:57,600 --> 01:09:00,320
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1572
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1573
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1574
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1575
01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:12,360
Speaker 2: Giants Fall to the Saints. More of your calls when

1576
01:09:12,400 --> 01:09:15,080
Speaker 2: we return right after this on Pepsi. Giants Extra point

1577
01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:15,639
Speaker 2: on the Fan.

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01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:24,200
Speaker 6: Tomorrow center Williams to the one back set, Cock takes

1579
01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:26,760
Speaker 6: the stats, looks left out, Love Boar down the white

1580
01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:31,080
Speaker 6: side quite open and enter the touchdown as the tight

1581
01:09:31,240 --> 01:09:32,439
Speaker 6: end Juwan Johnson.

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01:09:34,120 --> 01:09:35,439
Speaker 3: That was the turning point of the game.

1583
01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:39,400
Speaker 2: That Juwan Johnson touchdown gave the Saints a fourteen to

1584
01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:41,679
Speaker 2: six lead. It was their first drive of the second

1585
01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:44,280
Speaker 2: half and off they went to beat defeat the Giants

1586
01:09:44,439 --> 01:09:45,439
Speaker 2: twenty four to six.

1587
01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:47,080
Speaker 3: That was the turning point of the game.

1588
01:09:47,120 --> 01:09:49,840
Speaker 2: Listen a boomer and g on our flag substation Wfan

1589
01:09:50,280 --> 01:09:52,719
Speaker 2: tomorrow morning in the nine an hour for the Giants

1590
01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:55,040
Speaker 2: Turning Point contest. The first crack caller to name the

1591
01:09:55,120 --> 01:09:57,760
Speaker 2: Giants turning point, we'll win two tickets.

1592
01:09:57,479 --> 01:10:01,240
Speaker 3: To an upcoming Giants home game back here on PEPSI.

1593
01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:03,800
Speaker 2: Giants extra point, John Spilt Jonathan can see us with you.

1594
01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:06,640
Speaker 2: That was one tight end scoring well. Another tight end

1595
01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:09,240
Speaker 2: made his return in this game, Darren Waller. We had

1596
01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:11,240
Speaker 2: a chance to catch up with them downstairs in the

1597
01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:13,599
Speaker 2: locker room after the game. Let's listen into what Darren

1598
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:15,400
Speaker 2: Waller had to say in his first game back off

1599
01:10:15,439 --> 01:10:16,280
Speaker 2: his hamstring injury.

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01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:18,920
Speaker 12: Well, first of all, you got back in there again

1601
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:20,599
Speaker 12: after being all for about a month.

1602
01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:21,240
Speaker 4: How did feel?

1603
01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:22,800
Speaker 10: I felt good?

1604
01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:25,960
Speaker 5: I mean there's natural, uh, you know, movements and just

1605
01:10:26,360 --> 01:10:28,680
Speaker 5: processing that you gotta get back used too after not

1606
01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:31,559
Speaker 5: being in a game environment for a while. So feel

1607
01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:32,880
Speaker 5: good to be out there and be a part of

1608
01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:34,920
Speaker 5: what Dolphins is doing and just being in the mix

1609
01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:35,320
Speaker 5: all right.

1610
01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:37,360
Speaker 12: Now, obviously the offense to not do what you guys

1611
01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:40,120
Speaker 12: should hoped it would do today. Do you see any

1612
01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:42,920
Speaker 12: reason why could your pinpoint why the struggles happened all day?

1613
01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:46,320
Speaker 5: Just being behind the chains. A lot of thirty longs,

1614
01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:48,000
Speaker 5: a lot of first and long lost second loans, and

1615
01:10:48,080 --> 01:10:50,360
Speaker 5: that makes you tough and loss defense to sink back

1616
01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:51,840
Speaker 5: and just keep everything in front of him and come

1617
01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:54,960
Speaker 5: downhill and and hit you and h and keep the

1618
01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:58,000
Speaker 5: crowd into it. So we've gotta do better on early

1619
01:10:58,080 --> 01:10:59,320
Speaker 5: down situations. As an offense.

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01:10:59,360 --> 01:10:59,920
Speaker 15: You were vewin.

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01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:02,120
Speaker 12: What can you tell Tommy DeVito to take from this

1622
01:11:02,280 --> 01:11:03,559
Speaker 12: as a young quarterback who.

1623
01:11:03,439 --> 01:11:05,519
Speaker 4: Has to learn from the experience such as this game.

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01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:08,679
Speaker 5: I mean, I can tell them just from my experience,

1625
01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:10,840
Speaker 5: there's gonna be plenty of highs that you're gonna have,

1626
01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:13,680
Speaker 5: you know, as a as a as a playmaker, as

1627
01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:15,920
Speaker 5: a as a leader, where you know you're out there

1628
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:18,080
Speaker 5: and showing everything that you're capable up. There's gonna be

1629
01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:20,719
Speaker 5: some moments where you know, as a team, as an offense,

1630
01:11:20,760 --> 01:11:22,920
Speaker 5: we get our teeth kicked in a little bit. It's

1631
01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:24,760
Speaker 5: all It's more, it's all about how you respond to

1632
01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:27,080
Speaker 5: each of those, whether it's a great game or the

1633
01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:31,320
Speaker 5: negative game. Just keep showing up, keep leading, and we

1634
01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:32,120
Speaker 5: believe the aim to do that.

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01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:34,880
Speaker 12: The Saints did not have a very highly ranked rush defense,

1636
01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:37,120
Speaker 12: but you guys couldn't get the run game going. How

1637
01:11:37,200 --> 01:11:37,960
Speaker 12: surprising was that?

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01:11:39,000 --> 01:11:41,839
Speaker 5: Well, I mean just being I've played against that defense

1639
01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:44,080
Speaker 5: and they have some guys I've been there for a while,

1640
01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:47,639
Speaker 5: Like if you ud Mario Davis and uh and weren't

1641
01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:50,120
Speaker 5: they're like they they're able to get downhill. Uh, they're

1642
01:11:50,160 --> 01:11:52,880
Speaker 5: able to uh, you know, wreck some things because they're

1643
01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:55,559
Speaker 5: coming in. They're uh, they're they're choosing violence. So they

1644
01:11:55,600 --> 01:11:58,960
Speaker 5: got talented defensive linemen, they got safeties, addiversatile. So if

1645
01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:01,000
Speaker 5: you're not, you know, if you don't show up ready

1646
01:12:01,040 --> 01:12:03,280
Speaker 5: to you know, down and down out to dominate and

1647
01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:04,120
Speaker 5: they'll bring it to you.

1648
01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:06,920
Speaker 12: Final question, it looked like this team was preparing to

1649
01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:09,360
Speaker 12: make some kind of run to maybe get back in it.

1650
01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:09,880
Speaker 15: At the end.

1651
01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:12,560
Speaker 12: This is a pretty heartbreaking loss in terms of what

1652
01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:14,640
Speaker 12: it does to your chances. How do you deal with

1653
01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:15,400
Speaker 12: that and swallow that?

1654
01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:17,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's tough, man, You got you got to earn

1655
01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:19,680
Speaker 5: the right to get to where you want to go.

1656
01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:21,599
Speaker 5: Those goals that you have, you got to go into

1657
01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:24,920
Speaker 5: tough environments and win. It's not an easy thing to do.

1658
01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:27,320
Speaker 5: That's why there's only certain nine teams that that did

1659
01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:30,599
Speaker 5: the playoffs. So but yeah, that's uh, it's tough. It's

1660
01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:32,760
Speaker 5: tough to swallows, no, no doubt about it. But guys,

1661
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:35,200
Speaker 5: you got to stick together because there's still games we played,

1662
01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:37,960
Speaker 5: still moments to where we can put our best on

1663
01:12:38,040 --> 01:12:39,960
Speaker 5: display and we got to take advantage of it.

1664
01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:44,000
Speaker 2: Thank you, dar that's Darren Waller with Paul Deatino downstairs

1665
01:12:44,439 --> 01:12:44,920
Speaker 2: and JC.

1666
01:12:45,240 --> 01:12:46,320
Speaker 3: Darren Waller said it right.

1667
01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:50,720
Speaker 2: This was a game, to quote him, the offense got

1668
01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:54,000
Speaker 2: their teeth kicked in and that's what happened.

1669
01:12:54,040 --> 01:12:55,000
Speaker 3: We can call up and talk.

1670
01:12:54,920 --> 01:12:58,200
Speaker 2: About little things, play calling, the offensive design, stuff like that.

1671
01:12:58,600 --> 01:13:01,360
Speaker 2: When you get whooped up front like the Giants did, frankly,

1672
01:13:01,439 --> 01:13:03,599
Speaker 2: on both sides of the ball, you're gonna have trouble.

1673
01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:06,000
Speaker 2: And again it was more pass protection and not be

1674
01:13:06,040 --> 01:13:07,680
Speaker 2: able to get pass rush on the defensive side of

1675
01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:08,599
Speaker 2: the ball than the run defense.

1676
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:11,960
Speaker 3: But if you can't win up front, this is what

1677
01:13:12,160 --> 01:13:13,040
Speaker 3: it looks like.

1678
01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:17,040
Speaker 2: You score six points offensively, can't get open you drop passes,

1679
01:13:17,080 --> 01:13:19,479
Speaker 2: you commit penalties, you allow sacks, you can't run the football,

1680
01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:20,559
Speaker 2: you have no chance.

1681
01:13:21,080 --> 01:13:23,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean if you take Tommy Devido's four carriages away.

1682
01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:27,839
Speaker 4: The Giants ran the ball twelve times for twenty four yards.

1683
01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:31,560
Speaker 4: That is not a recipe to win at all. And

1684
01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:36,360
Speaker 4: the Giants they have been having ros on offensively the

1685
01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:39,080
Speaker 4: entire year. They figured out how to kind of get

1686
01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:41,240
Speaker 4: through it the last few weeks, but I think that

1687
01:13:41,400 --> 01:13:43,920
Speaker 4: was because of their defense being able to take the

1688
01:13:44,040 --> 01:13:47,200
Speaker 4: ball away so many times, and without the Giants taking

1689
01:13:47,240 --> 01:13:51,280
Speaker 4: the ball away and giving the offense opportunities to know

1690
01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:55,920
Speaker 4: a short field position, more opportunities to score points. You've

1691
01:13:56,000 --> 01:14:00,840
Speaker 4: seen the inability of the Giants offense to actually be efficient.

1692
01:14:01,479 --> 01:14:04,040
Speaker 4: That's how it was, how it is all year, you know.

1693
01:14:04,160 --> 01:14:07,559
Speaker 4: And the Giants this year offensively has been of course

1694
01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:10,720
Speaker 4: it's been a struggle, you know, but defensively kept them

1695
01:14:10,760 --> 01:14:14,160
Speaker 4: in games. The defense is allowed to have a bad

1696
01:14:14,240 --> 01:14:15,760
Speaker 4: game here and there. I'm not saying this was a

1697
01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:18,000
Speaker 4: terrible game. It's not a bad game, but it wasn't

1698
01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:20,040
Speaker 4: up to their standard and where they set the bar

1699
01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:23,160
Speaker 4: at the bar for them was disruptive against the quarterback

1700
01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:26,400
Speaker 4: being able to pressure the quarterback and taking the ball away.

1701
01:14:26,760 --> 01:14:29,760
Speaker 4: They didn't do any of those things. So now a

1702
01:14:29,880 --> 01:14:33,720
Speaker 4: game where the offense, you know, it got to be complementary,

1703
01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:35,760
Speaker 4: meaning if the defense is not playing at the level

1704
01:14:35,880 --> 01:14:38,439
Speaker 4: that they were, the offense needs to step up, and

1705
01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:41,120
Speaker 4: the offense not being able to do that. That gives

1706
01:14:41,160 --> 01:14:43,519
Speaker 4: you six to twenty four. That gives you, you know,

1707
01:14:43,760 --> 01:14:46,880
Speaker 4: four three and outs with a total net yardage of

1708
01:14:47,040 --> 01:14:50,639
Speaker 4: negative twenty one yards. That's what you're getting. The Giants

1709
01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:52,760
Speaker 4: is led by the defense, and that defense is led

1710
01:14:52,760 --> 01:14:55,080
Speaker 4: by Dexter Lawrence. Dexhel Lawrence didn't have a bad game,

1711
01:14:55,360 --> 01:14:58,439
Speaker 4: but all the focus was centered on Dexter Lawrence. So

1712
01:14:58,840 --> 01:15:01,040
Speaker 4: when you got two or three that can actually get

1713
01:15:01,080 --> 01:15:03,800
Speaker 4: a hand on him, somebody else has to step up

1714
01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:06,160
Speaker 4: and make plays. The Giants didn't do that, whether it

1715
01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:10,400
Speaker 4: was defensively or offensively. And what Paul said earlier, the

1716
01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:14,240
Speaker 4: Giants they haven't really found a consistent way of creating

1717
01:15:14,320 --> 01:15:18,320
Speaker 4: those bigger than football plays, those contested catches that are

1718
01:15:18,360 --> 01:15:20,360
Speaker 4: fifty to fifty balls that are thrown up in the

1719
01:15:20,439 --> 01:15:24,200
Speaker 4: ear by DeVito Tyrod Daniel Jones. Giants haven't been able

1720
01:15:24,240 --> 01:15:27,240
Speaker 4: to come up with those plays consistently all year. So

1721
01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:30,080
Speaker 4: if the defense cannot take the ball away and stifle

1722
01:15:30,120 --> 01:15:33,320
Speaker 4: an offense and create extra opportunities for the Giants offense,

1723
01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:37,240
Speaker 4: the Giants offense has it doesn't have the ability to

1724
01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:40,360
Speaker 4: win games for this team. And I think I think

1725
01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:43,439
Speaker 4: the Giants understand that. And the Giants really rely on

1726
01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:46,439
Speaker 4: their defense. But their defenses do for a game where

1727
01:15:46,439 --> 01:15:50,320
Speaker 4: they're not amazing, They're not great, they're not dominating like

1728
01:15:50,439 --> 01:15:53,479
Speaker 4: we saw tonight, but the offense needed to step up

1729
01:15:53,479 --> 01:15:55,560
Speaker 4: today and they just couldn't figure out a way to

1730
01:15:55,680 --> 01:15:56,360
Speaker 4: do that tonight.

1731
01:15:56,840 --> 01:15:59,599
Speaker 2: Eight seven seven three three seven sixty six sixty six.

1732
01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:03,599
Speaker 2: Let's go to Mickey and putting them County. He's up

1733
01:16:03,640 --> 01:16:05,160
Speaker 2: next on Pepsy Giants extra point.

1734
01:16:05,240 --> 01:16:08,160
Speaker 22: Hi, Mickey, Oh, good to talk to you both. Jonathan,

1735
01:16:08,320 --> 01:16:11,200
Speaker 22: you were right. I couldn't argue with one thing you said,

1736
01:16:11,320 --> 01:16:13,559
Speaker 22: or well both of you said just before with their

1737
01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:17,080
Speaker 22: you know, their bread and butter. It was evidently today

1738
01:16:17,240 --> 01:16:18,920
Speaker 22: and I think you might have talked about this. I

1739
01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:21,519
Speaker 22: apologize because we were eating dinner, so I'm kind of

1740
01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:22,400
Speaker 22: late to the program.

1741
01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:23,120
Speaker 4: That's right.

1742
01:16:24,479 --> 01:16:26,559
Speaker 22: You know, they played a game of the way they

1743
01:16:26,640 --> 01:16:30,200
Speaker 22: played Monday night. That game didn't endtil what midnight, and

1744
01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:34,639
Speaker 22: Saints were at home right hearing about how how they're

1745
01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:38,439
Speaker 22: they stink and this and that, and they're watching the

1746
01:16:38,520 --> 01:16:40,639
Speaker 22: Giants on Monday night, kind of like the Giants watched

1747
01:16:40,680 --> 01:16:43,960
Speaker 22: Green Bay the week prior against Kansas City, and they're

1748
01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:46,000
Speaker 22: at home and they're sitting waiting for the Giants to

1749
01:16:46,040 --> 01:16:48,000
Speaker 22: come down to them. Giants don't get on the plane.

1750
01:16:48,080 --> 01:16:51,040
Speaker 22: They come down. However, it all works, and you you know,

1751
01:16:51,320 --> 01:16:53,360
Speaker 22: when the talent is that high at the NFL level

1752
01:16:53,439 --> 01:16:57,040
Speaker 22: in Jonathan, you probably would know this isn't It doesn't.

1753
01:16:57,120 --> 01:16:59,800
Speaker 22: Isn't the difference, especially the line of scrimmage. A team

1754
01:16:59,840 --> 01:17:02,040
Speaker 22: that just got that much more energy, and they really

1755
01:17:02,160 --> 01:17:04,080
Speaker 22: looked even though it was seven to six, they looked

1756
01:17:04,479 --> 01:17:08,000
Speaker 22: two steps behind them and at the line of scrimmage,

1757
01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:10,920
Speaker 22: offensive line. I think a lot of it came down

1758
01:17:10,960 --> 01:17:14,320
Speaker 22: with the whopla this week they were It was a

1759
01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:16,880
Speaker 22: short It was basically like a Sunday to Thursday week

1760
01:17:16,920 --> 01:17:19,519
Speaker 22: for the Giants, and you see the product you get

1761
01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:23,599
Speaker 22: when that happens. But aside from all that, and I've

1762
01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:25,519
Speaker 22: been saying this for four, four or five weeks now,

1763
01:17:25,640 --> 01:17:27,400
Speaker 22: with the scoreboard, the way it's been going to the

1764
01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:30,439
Speaker 22: NFC until you get your tenth loss in the NFC,

1765
01:17:31,760 --> 01:17:33,360
Speaker 22: Giants have three more playoff games.

1766
01:17:33,400 --> 01:17:33,720
Speaker 5: They have a.

1767
01:17:33,720 --> 01:17:37,040
Speaker 22: Playoff game next Monday, an n season playoff game to

1768
01:17:37,080 --> 01:17:40,840
Speaker 22: survive to the next weekend. So let them get this

1769
01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:43,880
Speaker 22: now full week to come home and they only have

1770
01:17:43,960 --> 01:17:47,640
Speaker 22: to go down to Philadelphia to travel wise, so they

1771
01:17:47,720 --> 01:17:51,120
Speaker 22: can concentrate on that, not look ahead. I think part

1772
01:17:51,160 --> 01:17:53,439
Speaker 22: of the I even think partly they might have looked

1773
01:17:53,439 --> 01:17:56,320
Speaker 22: ahead of the Saints. As funny as that sounds from

1774
01:17:56,360 --> 01:17:57,240
Speaker 22: a team that was once.

1775
01:17:57,160 --> 01:17:59,320
Speaker 3: Two and eight, well I was sure as that's not

1776
01:17:59,439 --> 01:17:59,720
Speaker 3: the case.

1777
01:17:59,800 --> 01:18:01,840
Speaker 15: Make I mean, I think it's.

1778
01:18:01,760 --> 01:18:04,080
Speaker 22: More the first part of what we were talking about.

1779
01:18:04,280 --> 01:18:06,840
Speaker 22: I think this short week really hurt the Giants compared

1780
01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:09,639
Speaker 22: to the Saints sitting around at home. Remember the Saints

1781
01:18:09,680 --> 01:18:12,680
Speaker 22: played the Panthers and probably were off the field three

1782
01:18:12,720 --> 01:18:16,240
Speaker 22: o'clock their time, and they were a lot of their

1783
01:18:16,280 --> 01:18:18,800
Speaker 22: guys were probably out of that game right in the

1784
01:18:18,880 --> 01:18:21,400
Speaker 22: third core of twenty eight to six game. So they're

1785
01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:23,720
Speaker 22: they're licking their chops waiting for the Giants to come

1786
01:18:23,760 --> 01:18:26,120
Speaker 22: at them, and it's it's a tough place for the

1787
01:18:26,160 --> 01:18:29,559
Speaker 22: Giants to play anyway down there. So, all all things

1788
01:18:29,640 --> 01:18:33,759
Speaker 22: being said, I think it's the slight, the slight glimmer

1789
01:18:33,840 --> 01:18:35,760
Speaker 22: that you've got here is that you've got a game

1790
01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:38,960
Speaker 22: on Christmas where if you could get that game, you

1791
01:18:39,040 --> 01:18:40,679
Speaker 22: went one and one on the road, and you're six

1792
01:18:40,760 --> 01:18:43,240
Speaker 22: and nine, and I truly believe eight and nine is

1793
01:18:43,280 --> 01:18:45,240
Speaker 22: going to be a playoff record. I mean, I've been

1794
01:18:45,280 --> 01:18:46,960
Speaker 22: saying that for three weeks now, but I really think

1795
01:18:47,040 --> 01:18:49,439
Speaker 22: so the way the Viking game went, the way the

1796
01:18:49,479 --> 01:18:54,280
Speaker 22: games have been going today, So really just try to

1797
01:18:54,360 --> 01:18:58,200
Speaker 22: survive and scratch and claw next next next Monday on Christmas,

1798
01:18:59,000 --> 01:19:01,240
Speaker 22: and try to do everything you didn't do today at

1799
01:19:01,240 --> 01:19:03,840
Speaker 22: the line of scrimmage. And even like you just said,

1800
01:19:04,439 --> 01:19:08,479
Speaker 22: I mean, I'm sorry, John, even their pass rush looked

1801
01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:12,519
Speaker 22: did not look anything like Monday night, and it seems

1802
01:19:12,560 --> 01:19:15,280
Speaker 22: like they actually just played two hours ago. Think about it.

1803
01:19:15,880 --> 01:19:18,760
Speaker 22: And even that was that even looked gassed, They looked

1804
01:19:18,800 --> 01:19:19,360
Speaker 22: cooked today.

1805
01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:23,080
Speaker 3: Appreciate you call. I appreciate it. And I'm gonna go

1806
01:19:23,080 --> 01:19:24,960
Speaker 3: to the former player for this answer. JC.

1807
01:19:25,720 --> 01:19:28,400
Speaker 2: Monday into a Sunday when Monday night's a home game,

1808
01:19:28,479 --> 01:19:30,360
Speaker 2: big deal, not a big deal, overrated?

1809
01:19:30,840 --> 01:19:33,360
Speaker 4: Nah's seek me? I love playing on Monday night Thursday

1810
01:19:33,439 --> 01:19:35,280
Speaker 4: nights of the days that throwed me off. Those games

1811
01:19:35,320 --> 01:19:38,479
Speaker 4: always throw me off. Playing on Thanksgiving is a different story,

1812
01:19:38,560 --> 01:19:42,120
Speaker 4: of course. But there's no excuses, man. You know, the

1813
01:19:42,600 --> 01:19:44,880
Speaker 4: schedule was put out early in the season. The Giants

1814
01:19:44,960 --> 01:19:48,560
Speaker 4: knew they had several Monday night games, and it's not

1815
01:19:48,680 --> 01:19:51,960
Speaker 4: a big difference. Yeah, it's Monday night and you're basically

1816
01:19:52,120 --> 01:19:55,639
Speaker 4: playing Tuesday morning basically, But you know, I think that's

1817
01:19:55,760 --> 01:19:59,080
Speaker 4: enough time to recover and get mentally focused on the

1818
01:19:59,120 --> 01:20:00,760
Speaker 4: next team, because I know they Giants do a good

1819
01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:03,839
Speaker 4: job taking care of their players during the week at practice,

1820
01:20:04,280 --> 01:20:06,640
Speaker 4: and I know they do that consistently. Dave Ball has

1821
01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:08,840
Speaker 4: been doing a good job the last two years and

1822
01:20:08,920 --> 01:20:11,160
Speaker 4: taking care of the Giants, So I wouldn't say that.

1823
01:20:11,320 --> 01:20:13,120
Speaker 4: I just don't want to use it as an excuse. Yes,

1824
01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:15,679
Speaker 4: it happened, but I don't think that's a viable excuse.

1825
01:20:16,080 --> 01:20:19,160
Speaker 4: These are all professional players. Monday night football is part

1826
01:20:19,240 --> 01:20:21,920
Speaker 4: of the NFL, just like Thursday night football, which I hate,

1827
01:20:22,040 --> 01:20:24,439
Speaker 4: and I'm going to consistently say it over and over again,

1828
01:20:24,720 --> 01:20:27,720
Speaker 4: but Monday night to Sunday afternoon, it is what it is.

1829
01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:30,759
Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure like at least twenty eight other NFL

1830
01:20:30,840 --> 01:20:32,160
Speaker 4: teams had to do that this year.

1831
01:20:33,280 --> 01:20:35,120
Speaker 3: We heard from tight end Darren Wall.

1832
01:20:35,280 --> 01:20:37,479
Speaker 2: Let's go to another one of the Giants skill position players,

1833
01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:38,280
Speaker 2: Asiah Hodgens.

1834
01:20:38,360 --> 01:20:40,120
Speaker 3: He also spoke to the media after the game.

1835
01:20:41,600 --> 01:20:43,680
Speaker 12: After the three game winning streak, I'm sure this has

1836
01:20:43,720 --> 01:20:46,080
Speaker 12: to be incredibly disappointing. Can you put your finger on

1837
01:20:46,280 --> 01:20:47,800
Speaker 12: where things kind of went the wrong way here?

1838
01:20:48,880 --> 01:20:52,160
Speaker 25: May we just didn't do enough offensively, I guess speak

1839
01:20:52,240 --> 01:20:55,040
Speaker 25: enough for the defense, but I know, you know, we

1840
01:20:55,080 --> 01:20:56,800
Speaker 25: didn't really do a good job of helping out the

1841
01:20:56,880 --> 01:20:57,360
Speaker 25: video from.

1842
01:20:57,240 --> 01:20:58,719
Speaker 5: The wideceiver standpoint. I know I didn't.

1843
01:21:00,439 --> 01:21:02,800
Speaker 25: You know, that's just us being hardering ourselves and understanding that,

1844
01:21:02,880 --> 01:21:04,040
Speaker 25: you know, we got to make more plays.

1845
01:21:04,280 --> 01:21:06,040
Speaker 12: You got some help with a penalty on the first

1846
01:21:06,120 --> 01:21:09,000
Speaker 12: drive to get some points to strut things off. What

1847
01:21:09,479 --> 01:21:12,559
Speaker 12: was at least somewhat effective there that you were able

1848
01:21:12,600 --> 01:21:15,360
Speaker 12: to move the ball somewhat and that it didn't work?

1849
01:21:15,439 --> 01:21:18,400
Speaker 5: What changed? Yeah, I mean on the first job.

1850
01:21:18,479 --> 01:21:20,479
Speaker 25: You know, the video did a good job of using

1851
01:21:20,520 --> 01:21:22,320
Speaker 25: this feed, you know, doing a scrambled jail, get a

1852
01:21:22,320 --> 01:21:24,040
Speaker 25: little pass the safe on it. You know, there's some

1853
01:21:24,200 --> 01:21:26,600
Speaker 25: things that went right after that, I think, you know,

1854
01:21:26,680 --> 01:21:29,000
Speaker 25: we just I can't speak for everybody. I know from

1855
01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:30,760
Speaker 25: a lot of serier standpoint, we did do it a

1856
01:21:30,840 --> 01:21:33,040
Speaker 25: good enough job of just executing our jobs, from blocking

1857
01:21:33,080 --> 01:21:35,720
Speaker 25: and catching the ball, just everything. So you know we

1858
01:21:36,040 --> 01:21:38,240
Speaker 25: got to you know, take that pill, swallow it, and

1859
01:21:38,600 --> 01:21:40,479
Speaker 25: you know, move on and get ready for the next week.

1860
01:21:40,680 --> 01:21:43,000
Speaker 12: We talk about balance all the time, how important it

1861
01:21:43,080 --> 01:21:45,840
Speaker 12: is for an offense. You guys couldn't get a run gagle,

1862
01:21:46,240 --> 01:21:48,280
Speaker 12: and I think that really kind of made things even

1863
01:21:48,320 --> 01:21:49,200
Speaker 12: more difficult, right.

1864
01:21:49,280 --> 01:21:52,240
Speaker 25: Yeah, I mean that was tough. And again that's just

1865
01:21:52,680 --> 01:21:54,280
Speaker 25: not so much on the on line. You know, there's

1866
01:21:54,280 --> 01:21:55,680
Speaker 25: a lot of stuff that receivers could have done to

1867
01:21:55,720 --> 01:21:57,680
Speaker 25: help out with that too. So like I said, you know,

1868
01:21:57,800 --> 01:22:00,200
Speaker 25: just speaking from you know us in our group, we

1869
01:22:00,280 --> 01:22:02,920
Speaker 25: could and more to help out the young quarterback and

1870
01:22:03,000 --> 01:22:04,599
Speaker 25: the old line and everybody. So you know, we got

1871
01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:05,400
Speaker 25: to do better in that.

1872
01:22:05,760 --> 01:22:09,080
Speaker 12: Finally, we talk about everything being a learning experience. Tommy

1873
01:22:09,200 --> 01:22:11,160
Speaker 12: is still only a few games into his young career.

1874
01:22:11,520 --> 01:22:13,800
Speaker 12: How will this help him as he continues to learn

1875
01:22:13,920 --> 01:22:15,200
Speaker 12: what it is to be an NFL pro.

1876
01:22:15,479 --> 01:22:17,720
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, just learning how to respond, you know

1877
01:22:17,800 --> 01:22:18,800
Speaker 10: after a game like this.

1878
01:22:18,920 --> 01:22:19,519
Speaker 3: You know, it's tough.

1879
01:22:19,960 --> 01:22:21,719
Speaker 5: There's a lot of stuff that was outside of his control.

1880
01:22:21,880 --> 01:22:23,920
Speaker 5: You know, I'm sure a lot of the outside world.

1881
01:22:23,800 --> 01:22:25,800
Speaker 25: Will try to sit there and blame him and you know,

1882
01:22:26,120 --> 01:22:28,519
Speaker 25: try to do that, but you know, at a lot

1883
01:22:28,560 --> 01:22:29,920
Speaker 25: of stuff that happened wasn't his fault.

1884
01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:32,080
Speaker 21: So you know, it's hard to pinpoint the finger on

1885
01:22:32,160 --> 01:22:34,640
Speaker 21: exactly who it was. You know, as a team game collectively,

1886
01:22:35,000 --> 01:22:36,360
Speaker 21: there's a lot of stuff. As the offense, we could

1887
01:22:36,360 --> 01:22:38,320
Speaker 21: have did better. So you know, he's got to come

1888
01:22:38,360 --> 01:22:40,000
Speaker 21: back and respond. We has an offense got to come

1889
01:22:40,040 --> 01:22:41,559
Speaker 21: back and respond, you know, and just keep working.

1890
01:22:41,680 --> 01:22:43,960
Speaker 2: Thank you guys, jam that's the day Hodgenes in the

1891
01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:47,560
Speaker 2: locker room after the game. Jac anything else on on

1892
01:22:47,680 --> 01:22:48,320
Speaker 2: the passing game?

1893
01:22:48,400 --> 01:22:50,000
Speaker 3: And Tommy V want to get in here before we

1894
01:22:50,040 --> 01:22:50,920
Speaker 3: get onto other topics.

1895
01:22:51,760 --> 01:22:54,960
Speaker 4: Not really, I mean I like how Hodges took you know, accountability,

1896
01:22:55,200 --> 01:22:58,800
Speaker 4: you know for the offense and their inefficiency tonight. You know,

1897
01:22:58,880 --> 01:23:01,280
Speaker 4: he kept on putting on over room all year. The

1898
01:23:01,360 --> 01:23:03,840
Speaker 4: offensive line blah blah blah. But what the receivers could

1899
01:23:03,840 --> 01:23:06,000
Speaker 4: have blocked better, The receivers could have caught the ball better,

1900
01:23:06,040 --> 01:23:07,880
Speaker 4: we could have ran better. Routes we could have gave

1901
01:23:07,920 --> 01:23:10,360
Speaker 4: our you know, Tommy DeVito, you know, better chances to

1902
01:23:10,439 --> 01:23:12,599
Speaker 4: get us the ball. And I think that's a good

1903
01:23:12,640 --> 01:23:15,360
Speaker 4: way to approach any game, especially with a loss like that,

1904
01:23:15,880 --> 01:23:18,200
Speaker 4: where you're fighting a team, you're playing against a team

1905
01:23:18,360 --> 01:23:20,160
Speaker 4: that's in your weight class. That's something that we've been

1906
01:23:20,400 --> 01:23:22,840
Speaker 4: talking about all year. The Saints are definitely in the

1907
01:23:22,920 --> 01:23:25,000
Speaker 4: Giants weight class. And they got I kind of I

1908
01:23:25,000 --> 01:23:27,400
Speaker 4: would say embarrassed a little bit, only scoring six points

1909
01:23:27,439 --> 01:23:30,559
Speaker 4: and and and allowing the Saints to look like they

1910
01:23:30,680 --> 01:23:34,240
Speaker 4: have been an offensive juggernaut all year, which they haven't been,

1911
01:23:34,720 --> 01:23:36,879
Speaker 4: you know, And and the Giants got a little bit embarrassed.

1912
01:23:36,880 --> 01:23:40,000
Speaker 4: But the accountability, I think looking inward, looking in that

1913
01:23:40,120 --> 01:23:42,479
Speaker 4: mirror first, I think that's a good start. And the

1914
01:23:42,560 --> 01:23:44,920
Speaker 4: Giants just need a good we could practice, man. And look,

1915
01:23:45,320 --> 01:23:47,639
Speaker 4: the Giants knew that the Eagles were down the road.

1916
01:23:47,960 --> 01:23:48,120
Speaker 18: You know.

1917
01:23:49,640 --> 01:23:51,840
Speaker 4: Now the light is at the end of the tunnels.

1918
01:23:51,960 --> 01:23:54,439
Speaker 4: The Eagles are looking at the Giants, and the Eagles

1919
01:23:54,479 --> 01:23:56,240
Speaker 4: are not going to be resting anybody this year.

1920
01:23:56,280 --> 01:24:00,920
Speaker 2: It's a bright green light that means go usually but hopefully,

1921
01:24:01,000 --> 01:24:03,479
Speaker 2: you know, the Giants can actually have a great week

1922
01:24:03,520 --> 01:24:06,840
Speaker 2: of practice because Dave Ball does a he does this

1923
01:24:06,960 --> 01:24:09,080
Speaker 2: thing where he basically.

1924
01:24:08,800 --> 01:24:12,000
Speaker 4: Relies on practice to see who's going to play during

1925
01:24:12,040 --> 01:24:13,560
Speaker 4: the week. And I don't know if that's like that

1926
01:24:13,720 --> 01:24:15,920
Speaker 4: on every other team, because it wasn't always like that

1927
01:24:16,240 --> 01:24:18,479
Speaker 4: when I played in the NFL. So look forward to

1928
01:24:18,520 --> 01:24:21,360
Speaker 4: the Giants having a really good week of practice, maybe

1929
01:24:21,439 --> 01:24:23,800
Speaker 4: have a day off, you know, given you know they

1930
01:24:23,960 --> 01:24:27,719
Speaker 4: just played, and look forward to them, you know, getting

1931
01:24:27,800 --> 01:24:30,559
Speaker 4: back after it, because the Giants season is not over,

1932
01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:32,679
Speaker 4: you know, no matter what they look like, no matter

1933
01:24:32,760 --> 01:24:34,760
Speaker 4: what anybody else record is. When no matter what their

1934
01:24:34,800 --> 01:24:37,160
Speaker 4: record is, their season is not over. They still have

1935
01:24:37,280 --> 01:24:39,200
Speaker 4: a couple of games to go, and they have a

1936
01:24:39,280 --> 01:24:42,080
Speaker 4: lot to build off of. You got a young quarterback who,

1937
01:24:42,280 --> 01:24:45,120
Speaker 4: no matter what he looked like today, at not one

1938
01:24:45,240 --> 01:24:47,360
Speaker 4: time did I say, oh, he doesn't deserve to play

1939
01:24:47,439 --> 01:24:50,280
Speaker 4: quarterback in the NFL, he definitely deserves a shot. He

1940
01:24:50,400 --> 01:24:52,519
Speaker 4: has the mox, he has the courage, and he also

1941
01:24:52,600 --> 01:24:54,920
Speaker 4: talked about after the game about the swag and that

1942
01:24:55,160 --> 01:24:57,519
Speaker 4: attitude being there. I think they're gonna be able to

1943
01:24:57,560 --> 01:24:59,920
Speaker 4: correct that. And you go down ninety five, that nice

1944
01:25:00,040 --> 01:25:02,840
Speaker 4: through ninety minute drive down ninety five you go ahead

1945
01:25:02,880 --> 01:25:05,200
Speaker 4: and you take that field with that attitude, Are you

1946
01:25:05,240 --> 01:25:06,720
Speaker 4: gonna give yourself a chance to win a game?

1947
01:25:07,040 --> 01:25:08,720
Speaker 2: All right, let's take a time out. We'll continue to

1948
01:25:08,760 --> 01:25:10,840
Speaker 2: take your calls. Richie and Queens. You're gonna be up next.

1949
01:25:11,080 --> 01:25:13,599
Speaker 2: We still deal from Bobby Ocarake and Justin Pew from

1950
01:25:13,640 --> 01:25:14,519
Speaker 2: downstairs as well.

1951
01:25:14,840 --> 01:25:15,280
Speaker 13: That more.

1952
01:25:15,360 --> 01:25:18,639
Speaker 2: When we return on Pepsi Giants extra point, Giants lose

1953
01:25:18,680 --> 01:25:20,920
Speaker 2: to the Saints twenty four to six. Back here on

1954
01:25:21,000 --> 01:25:23,960
Speaker 2: Pepsi Giants extra point on the fan, Giants fall to

1955
01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:25,120
Speaker 2: the Saints twenty four to six.

1956
01:25:25,200 --> 01:25:26,640
Speaker 3: John schmil Jonathan Casillez to do.

1957
01:25:26,680 --> 01:25:28,960
Speaker 2: For another twenty minutes or so, taking your calls at

1958
01:25:29,000 --> 01:25:32,360
Speaker 2: eight seven seven three three seven sixty six sixty six.

1959
01:25:32,479 --> 01:25:34,960
Speaker 2: Let's go to Richie and Queens. He's up next, Richie.

1960
01:25:37,760 --> 01:25:43,920
Speaker 2: Richie going once, Richie going twice. Richie, you sold Richie,

1961
01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:45,920
Speaker 2: call it back. I'll get you back up. All right,

1962
01:25:46,000 --> 01:25:48,720
Speaker 2: let's go downstairs. We talked about the scoll positioning guys

1963
01:25:48,760 --> 01:25:51,439
Speaker 2: on offense. Now let's talk about the offensive line. Veteran

1964
01:25:51,600 --> 01:25:53,599
Speaker 2: Justin Pew had a chance to address the media. Let's

1965
01:25:53,600 --> 01:25:54,439
Speaker 2: see what he had to say.

1966
01:25:59,560 --> 01:26:01,599
Speaker 10: I don't know if you notice that at all, Like, well,

1967
01:26:01,680 --> 01:26:01,920
Speaker 10: that's on.

1968
01:26:02,240 --> 01:26:04,760
Speaker 11: That's on the offensive lines. You know, like we gotta

1969
01:26:04,800 --> 01:26:06,840
Speaker 11: keep them off to be though, you know, we gotta

1970
01:26:06,840 --> 01:26:07,559
Speaker 11: be good too much.

1971
01:26:07,840 --> 01:26:08,680
Speaker 21: It was it was just.

1972
01:26:10,200 --> 01:26:10,840
Speaker 10: Just a bad job.

1973
01:26:10,920 --> 01:26:12,639
Speaker 11: That starts with me, Like I played my worst game

1974
01:26:12,680 --> 01:26:14,200
Speaker 11: in the season, so you know I got to own

1975
01:26:14,240 --> 01:26:15,679
Speaker 11: it and just look it and look in the eye.

1976
01:26:15,560 --> 01:26:17,320
Speaker 10: And roll go from there.

1977
01:26:17,479 --> 01:26:19,920
Speaker 4: So't you feel like like you know handled just what

1978
01:26:20,160 --> 01:26:20,560
Speaker 4: was going on.

1979
01:26:20,840 --> 01:26:21,840
Speaker 10: It's a tough atmosphere.

1980
01:26:21,920 --> 01:26:24,240
Speaker 4: Like you said, the line, I don't think enough like that.

1981
01:26:24,400 --> 01:26:26,400
Speaker 11: Because there's a deal with Yeah, I mean there's a

1982
01:26:26,400 --> 01:26:28,559
Speaker 11: diversity in the game, and there's gonna be bad points

1983
01:26:28,600 --> 01:26:29,080
Speaker 11: in the season.

1984
01:26:29,720 --> 01:26:31,720
Speaker 10: You know, he was gonna have a long We're gonna

1985
01:26:31,720 --> 01:26:33,200
Speaker 10: have a loft at some point with me a quarterback.

1986
01:26:33,200 --> 01:26:34,479
Speaker 11: I don't know if it's good this year, next year,

1987
01:26:34,520 --> 01:26:36,320
Speaker 11: whenever it was gonna come, he was gonna have adversity.

1988
01:26:36,640 --> 01:26:38,160
Speaker 11: So it'll be it'll be good for him to bounce

1989
01:26:38,200 --> 01:26:40,679
Speaker 11: back from it. But and you know, the offensive lineman

1990
01:26:40,680 --> 01:26:42,760
Speaker 11: didn't do enough job, and like that starts with me.

1991
01:26:42,880 --> 01:26:43,800
Speaker 5: I'm a I'm a leader on.

1992
01:26:43,840 --> 01:26:44,639
Speaker 3: This offensive line.

1993
01:26:45,040 --> 01:26:46,320
Speaker 10: I'm a guy that comes in and.

1994
01:26:48,360 --> 01:26:49,920
Speaker 11: Supposed to be helping the team out, hurting the team,

1995
01:26:49,920 --> 01:26:52,240
Speaker 11: and I definitely hurt the team today, So I'll I'll

1996
01:26:52,280 --> 01:26:53,719
Speaker 11: live at that obviously.

1997
01:26:53,760 --> 01:26:55,280
Speaker 6: You know the position you guys are as far as

1998
01:26:55,320 --> 01:26:56,720
Speaker 6: for your record was so, I mean, how I'm much

1999
01:26:56,760 --> 01:26:58,280
Speaker 6: it was lost hurt just big.

2000
01:26:58,240 --> 01:27:00,479
Speaker 10: Picture, Yeah, I mean probably not. I just had the

2001
01:27:00,520 --> 01:27:05,240
Speaker 10: playoffs and we were down earlier this season. We got

2002
01:27:05,320 --> 01:27:05,880
Speaker 10: find a way to fight.

2003
01:27:05,960 --> 01:27:07,920
Speaker 11: We got final when we're out there and go out

2004
01:27:07,960 --> 01:27:10,160
Speaker 11: and play at Philadelphia team that's staying good next week

2005
01:27:10,200 --> 01:27:11,639
Speaker 11: and they're gonna win to this film and they're gonna

2006
01:27:11,640 --> 01:27:14,880
Speaker 11: correct them, and if we don't, you know, it's gonna

2007
01:27:14,880 --> 01:27:15,639
Speaker 11: be the same results.

2008
01:27:15,680 --> 01:27:17,760
Speaker 10: So did you guys believe you guys are capable run

2009
01:27:17,760 --> 01:27:18,120
Speaker 10: on the table?

2010
01:27:18,160 --> 01:27:19,360
Speaker 8: And that was say three year old was nice, Like

2011
01:27:19,439 --> 01:27:20,439
Speaker 8: do you think you could have known?

2012
01:27:20,479 --> 01:27:22,000
Speaker 10: We had a lot of confidence coming into the team.

2013
01:27:22,200 --> 01:27:24,920
Speaker 10: So for to go the way it went, it's, uh,

2014
01:27:24,960 --> 01:27:26,479
Speaker 10: it's definitely disappointing.

2015
01:27:27,200 --> 01:27:29,880
Speaker 9: Listening to be there's a film on Tommy Hollibus, so

2016
01:27:30,000 --> 01:27:31,759
Speaker 9: that's a challenge, right, Like last.

2017
01:27:31,600 --> 01:27:33,880
Speaker 20: Week he did such a good job here stepping up

2018
01:27:34,240 --> 01:27:35,200
Speaker 20: fucking not getting.

2019
01:27:35,040 --> 01:27:38,280
Speaker 5: Him, Yeah, and today seem like it was back to them,

2020
01:27:38,400 --> 01:27:40,719
Speaker 5: you know, the bunch of sacks he was taking it earlier.

2021
01:27:41,080 --> 01:27:42,280
Speaker 10: Was it something they were doing now?

2022
01:27:42,320 --> 01:27:42,799
Speaker 4: It was definitely.

2023
01:27:43,200 --> 01:27:45,479
Speaker 11: I'm I'm I personally got beat clean up the middle,

2024
01:27:45,520 --> 01:27:47,400
Speaker 11: like you can't get beat up beat clean like that was.

2025
01:27:47,600 --> 01:27:49,120
Speaker 11: We had a great first ride, we came down, we

2026
01:27:49,200 --> 01:27:50,960
Speaker 11: got points on the board, and there's momentum going and

2027
01:27:50,960 --> 01:27:52,639
Speaker 11: then next the very next year's out of the sack

2028
01:27:52,680 --> 01:27:54,519
Speaker 11: or out of pressure that forced him into the sack.

2029
01:27:55,080 --> 01:27:58,679
Speaker 10: And you can't do that, like that's just you don't

2030
01:27:58,720 --> 01:28:01,320
Speaker 10: have a job if you do stuff like that. That's

2031
01:28:01,439 --> 01:28:03,799
Speaker 10: that's that's on me. So it's just like I started

2032
01:28:04,040 --> 01:28:06,960
Speaker 10: the snowball us not doing well. So I feel bad,

2033
01:28:07,320 --> 01:28:10,240
Speaker 10: and I'll watch the film on it, right and you know,

2034
01:28:10,479 --> 01:28:12,439
Speaker 10: I go out there and and fix it. I've done

2035
01:28:12,439 --> 01:28:14,000
Speaker 10: to drop my career. I've had bad games. We have

2036
01:28:14,120 --> 01:28:16,519
Speaker 10: bad games as unit, and it's up on it's a.

2037
01:28:16,920 --> 01:28:17,439
Speaker 13: It's a correction.

2038
01:28:17,960 --> 01:28:23,120
Speaker 10: How difficult that once like that one to a good start.

2039
01:28:23,720 --> 01:28:25,519
Speaker 11: Like we were a little bit after that, Yeah, the

2040
01:28:25,560 --> 01:28:28,599
Speaker 11: first that first round, Yeah, I mean it's it's difficult,

2041
01:28:28,680 --> 01:28:30,840
Speaker 11: but we were seven to six and a half times,

2042
01:28:31,520 --> 01:28:32,880
Speaker 11: seven to fixt and a half time, we had everything.

2043
01:28:32,880 --> 01:28:34,240
Speaker 10: We won in front of us, and we came out

2044
01:28:34,240 --> 01:28:37,320
Speaker 10: and they took our ass in the second half. So

2045
01:28:38,400 --> 01:28:39,320
Speaker 10: just unacceptable.

2046
01:28:39,680 --> 01:28:41,800
Speaker 12: There's two weeks in a row now that Tommy has

2047
01:28:41,880 --> 01:28:44,200
Speaker 12: learned to scribble better, but yet it's taking some cheap

2048
01:28:44,280 --> 01:28:47,320
Speaker 12: hits from the opposition. Yeah, I mean, what are you

2049
01:28:47,560 --> 01:28:49,000
Speaker 12: how are you supposed to protect that or what are

2050
01:28:49,000 --> 01:28:49,960
Speaker 12: the Red's supposed to do in that?

2051
01:28:50,360 --> 01:28:52,320
Speaker 11: They obviously when you're a runner and then you show

2052
01:28:52,360 --> 01:28:55,280
Speaker 11: you're running on film, defense is gonna try to take

2053
01:28:55,280 --> 01:28:55,719
Speaker 11: their shots.

2054
01:28:55,720 --> 01:28:57,599
Speaker 10: And I think that one you got hit late.

2055
01:28:58,160 --> 01:28:59,880
Speaker 11: I think it was a penalty, didn't get called, but

2056
01:29:00,640 --> 01:29:02,479
Speaker 11: the NFL, I mean it's it's it's a judgment call

2057
01:29:02,560 --> 01:29:04,599
Speaker 11: and the ref seeing it, you know it split second.

2058
01:29:04,640 --> 01:29:06,760
Speaker 11: So we went down there and try to protect him,

2059
01:29:07,040 --> 01:29:08,560
Speaker 11: but we didn't do a good job protect.

2060
01:29:08,320 --> 01:29:08,840
Speaker 10: Him in the pocket.

2061
01:29:09,000 --> 01:29:10,639
Speaker 11: So like that's on us from the start of the day,

2062
01:29:10,720 --> 01:29:13,120
Speaker 11: Like we we got him rattled, and that's that's on

2063
01:29:13,240 --> 01:29:15,760
Speaker 11: me personally, Like I take full responsibility for that.

2064
01:29:15,880 --> 01:29:16,840
Speaker 10: You were pretty pick stuff.

2065
01:29:19,960 --> 01:29:21,479
Speaker 11: Yeah, but I should, honestly, I should have done a

2066
01:29:21,520 --> 01:29:23,880
Speaker 11: better job protected him as a quarterback, Like I'm gonna

2067
01:29:23,920 --> 01:29:25,200
Speaker 11: try to run down there and get after it.

2068
01:29:25,240 --> 01:29:27,880
Speaker 10: Of course, but like, just personally, from the start of

2069
01:29:27,960 --> 01:29:29,599
Speaker 10: the game, I didn't play well enough.

2070
01:29:29,760 --> 01:29:33,160
Speaker 11: So you know that's you can't try to like, oh

2071
01:29:33,240 --> 01:29:35,000
Speaker 11: yeah I should, I should make a cheap shot and

2072
01:29:35,040 --> 01:29:36,720
Speaker 11: go try to chase after and protect them. Of course

2073
01:29:36,720 --> 01:29:38,479
Speaker 11: I might do that, but if I really wanted to

2074
01:29:38,520 --> 01:29:40,600
Speaker 11: do my job, I would have done it from in

2075
01:29:40,680 --> 01:29:41,200
Speaker 11: the pocket out.

2076
01:29:42,880 --> 01:29:45,240
Speaker 2: There was a whole lot of nodding from Jonathan Casillas

2077
01:29:45,320 --> 01:29:48,200
Speaker 2: during that Justin Pugh media availability, much like Isaiah Hodgens

2078
01:29:48,280 --> 01:29:50,160
Speaker 2: putting a lot of the onus on the offensive line

2079
01:29:50,200 --> 01:29:53,240
Speaker 2: and and himself. And yeah he got beat cleaned twice

2080
01:29:53,280 --> 01:29:55,439
Speaker 2: by passing known for sacks, but there are a couple

2081
01:29:55,479 --> 01:29:57,439
Speaker 2: of times where you know, stunts and twist wore and

2082
01:29:57,479 --> 01:29:57,960
Speaker 2: picked up right.

2083
01:29:58,040 --> 01:30:00,400
Speaker 3: Other guys got beat too. It wasn't just Justin, that's

2084
01:30:00,439 --> 01:30:00,800
Speaker 3: for sure.

2085
01:30:01,200 --> 01:30:03,360
Speaker 2: But jac you like all the different aspects of this

2086
01:30:03,439 --> 01:30:05,880
Speaker 2: team stepping up post game and saying, look this is

2087
01:30:06,200 --> 01:30:08,200
Speaker 2: this is not just on the quarterback, the same way

2088
01:30:08,200 --> 01:30:10,240
Speaker 2: all the wins weren't because of the quarterback the last

2089
01:30:10,280 --> 01:30:10,639
Speaker 2: few weeks.

2090
01:30:10,720 --> 01:30:12,280
Speaker 3: This loss wasn't all on the quarterback either.

2091
01:30:12,479 --> 01:30:14,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think when you think about a team bouncing back,

2092
01:30:14,880 --> 01:30:17,200
Speaker 4: I think it starts with accountability first, and you got

2093
01:30:17,280 --> 01:30:19,360
Speaker 4: to do that by looking at yourself. And that was

2094
01:30:19,520 --> 01:30:21,640
Speaker 4: all Peugh Pew was just you know, he talked a

2095
01:30:21,640 --> 01:30:23,800
Speaker 4: little bit about what happened during the game, but he

2096
01:30:23,920 --> 01:30:26,360
Speaker 4: kept on reiterating, I gotta be better. I got to

2097
01:30:26,360 --> 01:30:28,600
Speaker 4: protect my quarterback. It's not for the other team to

2098
01:30:28,640 --> 01:30:32,200
Speaker 4: protect them. I have to protect the quarterback so offensively. Look,

2099
01:30:32,280 --> 01:30:35,599
Speaker 4: they had their struggles this year. I think the adding

2100
01:30:35,720 --> 01:30:38,719
Speaker 4: Pew not only helped them, you know with the lineup,

2101
01:30:38,960 --> 01:30:40,880
Speaker 4: but it also I think it also helped them for

2102
01:30:40,920 --> 01:30:43,760
Speaker 4: accountability and the type of character that they have in

2103
01:30:43,840 --> 01:30:46,479
Speaker 4: the locker room. Pew's a high character guy. He's a

2104
01:30:46,520 --> 01:30:48,880
Speaker 4: guy that says, Okay, yeah we did this, but I

2105
01:30:48,920 --> 01:30:50,760
Speaker 4: could have played better. Yeah we won, but I could

2106
01:30:50,800 --> 01:30:54,439
Speaker 4: have did this. Yes, they took an unnecessary shot on

2107
01:30:54,520 --> 01:30:56,640
Speaker 4: my quarterback, but I need to protect them more when

2108
01:30:56,680 --> 01:30:59,560
Speaker 4: he's in the pocket. And that speaks volume sort of

2109
01:30:59,600 --> 01:31:01,720
Speaker 4: type of he is and a type of character that

2110
01:31:01,960 --> 01:31:05,599
Speaker 4: flows throughout this locker room. So yes, the season, it looks,

2111
01:31:05,960 --> 01:31:07,720
Speaker 4: it doesn't look great right now, you know, but I

2112
01:31:07,800 --> 01:31:10,519
Speaker 4: think with those high character guys, I think that shows

2113
01:31:10,520 --> 01:31:12,120
Speaker 4: a lot of promise what the future holds for the

2114
01:31:12,160 --> 01:31:12,759
Speaker 4: New York Giants.

2115
01:31:12,880 --> 01:31:15,439
Speaker 3: Let's go to Richie and Queens, he read, joins us, Richie,

2116
01:31:15,520 --> 01:31:16,000
Speaker 3: what's up.

2117
01:31:16,560 --> 01:31:17,400
Speaker 15: Hey, guys, how are you?

2118
01:31:17,560 --> 01:31:17,880
Speaker 3: What's up?

2119
01:31:18,479 --> 01:31:21,240
Speaker 15: I appreciate the confidence, but I don't know what a future.

2120
01:31:21,680 --> 01:31:25,320
Speaker 15: Jac I love your work listening you know, this past year,

2121
01:31:25,960 --> 01:31:28,800
Speaker 15: but the confidence being locked. I mean, you're talking, you know,

2122
01:31:28,880 --> 01:31:30,920
Speaker 15: with the Vito this week. I was on during the week,

2123
01:31:31,520 --> 01:31:33,479
Speaker 15: and I understand. It's a great story, you know, and

2124
01:31:33,680 --> 01:31:36,840
Speaker 15: I kind of equated to a Major League baseball player

2125
01:31:36,880 --> 01:31:39,000
Speaker 15: that comes up and hits five hundred his first thirty

2126
01:31:39,080 --> 01:31:41,960
Speaker 15: five games, and you say, well, we've got a winner here.

2127
01:31:42,040 --> 01:31:45,400
Speaker 15: And with the Vito too, I think defences look back

2128
01:31:45,439 --> 01:31:48,240
Speaker 15: and say, what's his weakness? Going left, going right, Jero Blitz,

2129
01:31:48,280 --> 01:31:48,560
Speaker 15: whatever it.

2130
01:31:49,600 --> 01:31:49,920
Speaker 10: I don't think.

2131
01:31:49,920 --> 01:31:51,840
Speaker 2: I don't think anyone's here saying that, telling me the

2132
01:31:51,880 --> 01:31:53,560
Speaker 2: Vito is going to be this giant starting quarterback for

2133
01:31:53,600 --> 01:31:54,320
Speaker 2: the next ten years.

2134
01:31:54,680 --> 01:31:55,320
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

2135
01:31:55,479 --> 01:31:57,680
Speaker 15: I disagree it was it was being set here in

2136
01:31:57,720 --> 01:31:57,960
Speaker 15: the week.

2137
01:31:58,040 --> 01:31:59,880
Speaker 3: Well we weren't really. We weren't saying you.

2138
01:32:00,000 --> 01:32:02,839
Speaker 15: Guys or not. I'm just saying I think the confidence

2139
01:32:02,960 --> 01:32:04,559
Speaker 15: level for this guy was high, and I think it's

2140
01:32:04,600 --> 01:32:08,200
Speaker 15: a great story, but you know, getting back to the team. Obviously,

2141
01:32:08,400 --> 01:32:11,720
Speaker 15: Neil not playing is an issue, you know, and when

2142
01:32:11,760 --> 01:32:13,760
Speaker 15: you want to look at what you're seeing at this point,

2143
01:32:13,880 --> 01:32:16,599
Speaker 15: is you want to see gross Ala Jari has been

2144
01:32:16,720 --> 01:32:20,960
Speaker 15: really a big disappointment. Thibodeaux has done really well. So

2145
01:32:21,200 --> 01:32:23,680
Speaker 15: my point being, I don't know what they are. I

2146
01:32:23,720 --> 01:32:26,720
Speaker 15: thought their receivers would be better. They never take a lead,

2147
01:32:26,800 --> 01:32:29,240
Speaker 15: they never score in the first quarter. They will plus

2148
01:32:29,360 --> 01:32:32,120
Speaker 15: eleven guys those last three games, and they had to

2149
01:32:32,160 --> 01:32:34,360
Speaker 15: fight to win every one of them. So to think

2150
01:32:34,360 --> 01:32:36,439
Speaker 15: they're going to go into silly at this point in time,

2151
01:32:37,160 --> 01:32:39,160
Speaker 15: I don't have a lot of confidence and I don't

2152
01:32:39,240 --> 01:32:40,920
Speaker 15: know what to expect next year.

2153
01:32:41,200 --> 01:32:42,960
Speaker 2: Well, Ragie, I would say, at this point, with what

2154
01:32:43,040 --> 01:32:44,840
Speaker 2: we've seen against the Eagles the last eight years, I

2155
01:32:44,920 --> 01:32:47,240
Speaker 2: think as a Giant fan, if you're saying they need

2156
01:32:47,320 --> 01:32:48,960
Speaker 2: to show it to me before I believe it, I

2157
01:32:49,080 --> 01:32:50,479
Speaker 2: totally understand that point of view.

2158
01:32:50,520 --> 01:32:50,920
Speaker 3: I get it.

2159
01:32:52,840 --> 01:32:55,000
Speaker 15: Yeah, But the point is, like, what are we looking

2160
01:32:55,040 --> 01:32:57,439
Speaker 15: for at this point? Are we looking to see Divito

2161
01:32:57,520 --> 01:33:00,600
Speaker 15: hey to make them be to be a solid back up,

2162
01:33:00,920 --> 01:33:03,519
Speaker 15: you know, because normally at this point your starting quarterback

2163
01:33:03,560 --> 01:33:06,120
Speaker 15: would be there and say, Okay, he's really really improved.

2164
01:33:06,120 --> 01:33:08,000
Speaker 15: We don't even know who that's going to be. So

2165
01:33:08,160 --> 01:33:12,400
Speaker 15: my point is, I know Balkby not being signed again

2166
01:33:12,600 --> 01:33:15,880
Speaker 15: while of being with the with the injuries, I just

2167
01:33:17,240 --> 01:33:18,960
Speaker 15: it could be in somebody calling up that you know,

2168
01:33:19,040 --> 01:33:21,920
Speaker 15: they could be in a playoff front. I'm just very

2169
01:33:21,960 --> 01:33:24,160
Speaker 15: disappointed obviously, like a lot of us are for this

2170
01:33:24,280 --> 01:33:27,040
Speaker 15: year and again going forward, I do not know what

2171
01:33:27,240 --> 01:33:28,080
Speaker 15: to expect. Guys.

2172
01:33:28,240 --> 01:33:29,759
Speaker 10: No, appreciate your work, Thank.

2173
01:33:29,640 --> 01:33:32,040
Speaker 2: You, thank you, Richie, appreciate the call. And look, there's

2174
01:33:32,040 --> 01:33:33,800
Speaker 2: a lot that's going to be decide this offseason. This

2175
01:33:33,840 --> 01:33:35,479
Speaker 2: is a big offseason for the Giants. They have some

2176
01:33:35,600 --> 01:33:38,880
Speaker 2: free agents like Sakuon Barkley. I mean, it sure seems

2177
01:33:38,920 --> 01:33:40,840
Speaker 2: like they want to bring him back. We'll see what

2178
01:33:40,960 --> 01:33:44,080
Speaker 2: happens with that. Dori Jackson's a free agent after the year.

2179
01:33:44,120 --> 01:33:45,800
Speaker 2: That's another player they have to make a decision on.

2180
01:33:46,120 --> 01:33:48,640
Speaker 2: David McKinney's another guy they're going to have to make

2181
01:33:48,680 --> 01:33:51,040
Speaker 2: a decision on. They have two second round picks, They're

2182
01:33:51,040 --> 01:33:52,600
Speaker 2: going to have a pretty high first round pick that

2183
01:33:52,960 --> 01:33:54,800
Speaker 2: you know, how high it depends on how these last

2184
01:33:54,840 --> 01:33:58,800
Speaker 2: three games go. Your starting quarterback quarterback trying to come

2185
01:33:58,840 --> 01:34:02,440
Speaker 2: back from a twenty so his rehabilitation in the offseason

2186
01:34:02,920 --> 01:34:05,040
Speaker 2: is going to be huge. Now you have some really

2187
01:34:05,080 --> 01:34:08,559
Speaker 2: good cornerstones, I think JC and guy like Andrew Thomas,

2188
01:34:09,240 --> 01:34:11,320
Speaker 2: a guy in defense like Dexter Lawrence, a guy in

2189
01:34:11,400 --> 01:34:14,800
Speaker 2: defense like Bobby Okarake. On offense, you hope John Michael

2190
01:34:14,840 --> 01:34:17,800
Speaker 2: Schmidz can develop into a player like that, And you know,

2191
01:34:17,960 --> 01:34:19,920
Speaker 2: you feel good young players you think to work with

2192
01:34:20,040 --> 01:34:22,479
Speaker 2: on offense like a Wandre Robinson and Jalen Hyatt or

2193
01:34:22,560 --> 01:34:24,880
Speaker 2: those guys like number one wide receivers. They haven't shown

2194
01:34:24,960 --> 01:34:27,880
Speaker 2: that yet, but you know, Hyatt certainly has the speed

2195
01:34:28,080 --> 01:34:31,640
Speaker 2: and physical ability I think to do that. So I

2196
01:34:31,720 --> 01:34:34,360
Speaker 2: think there were good pieces here that gonna help you

2197
01:34:34,439 --> 01:34:37,639
Speaker 2: long term. But there's also questions in the offseason. They've

2198
01:34:37,640 --> 01:34:39,479
Speaker 2: a lot of decisions to make. Things are going to change,

2199
01:34:39,560 --> 01:34:42,880
Speaker 2: rosters turnover every year a lot. You know how that goes,

2200
01:34:43,479 --> 01:34:46,800
Speaker 2: And I think it'll be really important offseason for the

2201
01:34:46,920 --> 01:34:49,519
Speaker 2: Giants as they try to, you know, bounce back from

2202
01:34:49,560 --> 01:34:50,439
Speaker 2: a disappointing year.

2203
01:34:51,040 --> 01:34:53,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, and the first ten games of the season,

2204
01:34:54,040 --> 01:34:56,960
Speaker 4: the Giants were two to eight. You know, the Giants

2205
01:34:57,080 --> 01:34:59,560
Speaker 4: salvage their season. It was it was it was a

2206
01:35:00,240 --> 01:35:03,920
Speaker 4: we're heading down the road of a dumpster fire of

2207
01:35:04,320 --> 01:35:08,559
Speaker 4: just poor poor play. You know, a team that has

2208
01:35:09,520 --> 01:35:11,360
Speaker 4: like they would have been the first team out, you know,

2209
01:35:11,479 --> 01:35:13,160
Speaker 4: with the with the with the Panthers in terms of

2210
01:35:13,200 --> 01:35:15,760
Speaker 4: their playoffs, but they're still not out because and then

2211
01:35:17,439 --> 01:35:20,840
Speaker 4: right because they have improved. And I know everybody's like,

2212
01:35:21,240 --> 01:35:23,000
Speaker 4: oh yeah, but they they're not going to get a

2213
01:35:23,000 --> 01:35:26,120
Speaker 4: good draft pick. Let me just bump those draft picks, guys,

2214
01:35:26,240 --> 01:35:30,120
Speaker 4: let's finish this season. I'm not when I played, out

2215
01:35:30,120 --> 01:35:32,439
Speaker 4: of all the players, I relate to the players, they're

2216
01:35:32,479 --> 01:35:36,479
Speaker 4: not worried about the draft. They're worried about the next game.

2217
01:35:37,120 --> 01:35:39,920
Speaker 4: That's all they're worried about. And over the last few games,

2218
01:35:39,960 --> 01:35:43,320
Speaker 4: the Giants actually won games, and that's something that didn't

2219
01:35:43,360 --> 01:35:45,800
Speaker 4: come by a lot, especially in the first two months

2220
01:35:45,840 --> 01:35:46,320
Speaker 4: of the season.

2221
01:35:46,439 --> 01:35:48,200
Speaker 3: And they've gotten healthier, which is a big reason they've

2222
01:35:48,200 --> 01:35:48,920
Speaker 3: won some of these games.

2223
01:35:48,960 --> 01:35:52,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, and defensively they were dominant over that little run too.

2224
01:35:53,200 --> 01:35:54,759
Speaker 4: So I don't expect.

2225
01:35:54,920 --> 01:35:55,120
Speaker 10: I'm not.

2226
01:35:55,280 --> 01:35:58,720
Speaker 4: I never look forward towards the offseason. Only thing you

2227
01:35:58,760 --> 01:36:01,759
Speaker 4: could do is look for this season. Right the Giants

2228
01:36:01,880 --> 01:36:05,040
Speaker 4: have the Eagles. Do the Giants have a chance? Yes?

2229
01:36:05,479 --> 01:36:06,320
Speaker 4: Is it a big chance?

2230
01:36:06,520 --> 01:36:07,400
Speaker 8: No, it's not.

2231
01:36:08,200 --> 01:36:11,280
Speaker 4: But even last year it wasn't a great chance against

2232
01:36:11,280 --> 01:36:13,080
Speaker 4: the Eagles. The Eagles are the cream of the crop

2233
01:36:13,160 --> 01:36:15,280
Speaker 4: in the NFL. But you know what, they lost the

2234
01:36:15,360 --> 01:36:19,439
Speaker 4: last two games by over twenty points. They did lose games,

2235
01:36:19,479 --> 01:36:23,560
Speaker 4: they lost to the Jets. The Jets, so there is

2236
01:36:23,640 --> 01:36:26,080
Speaker 4: a chance. So do I give them a chance to

2237
01:36:26,200 --> 01:36:27,719
Speaker 4: go to Philly and beat the Eagles?

2238
01:36:27,800 --> 01:36:27,960
Speaker 15: Yes?

2239
01:36:28,360 --> 01:36:29,000
Speaker 2: Is it? I know?

2240
01:36:29,640 --> 01:36:33,040
Speaker 4: But things happened in the NFL and the Giants approach

2241
01:36:33,200 --> 01:36:38,679
Speaker 4: mentally how they're answering these questions because I hear guys

2242
01:36:38,760 --> 01:36:42,000
Speaker 4: in that locker room that's taking accountability, that's looking forward

2243
01:36:42,000 --> 01:36:44,800
Speaker 4: to get back to practice and improving. You have a

2244
01:36:44,880 --> 01:36:47,240
Speaker 4: guy in Saquon Barkley that didn't have a great game,

2245
01:36:47,920 --> 01:36:50,479
Speaker 4: that Tommy DeVito didn't have that greade of a game.

2246
01:36:50,720 --> 01:36:53,040
Speaker 4: So look for them to improve. Look for them to

2247
01:36:53,080 --> 01:36:55,840
Speaker 4: get Saquon Barkley the ball in different ways, in creative ways.

2248
01:36:56,280 --> 01:36:59,960
Speaker 4: Everybody knows how good Saquon is. Tonight wasn't a Saquon night,

2249
01:37:00,400 --> 01:37:03,960
Speaker 4: But look for them to respond and Sakwan Barkley no

2250
01:37:04,080 --> 01:37:06,960
Speaker 4: matter who he's playing against. He is a nightmare to

2251
01:37:07,080 --> 01:37:09,880
Speaker 4: go against. And if the Giants can figure out how

2252
01:37:09,960 --> 01:37:13,920
Speaker 4: to play against Philadelphia this weekend on Christmas. Next Monday

2253
01:37:13,920 --> 01:37:16,760
Speaker 4: is Monday, right, yep, on next Monday, the Giants have

2254
01:37:16,800 --> 01:37:20,080
Speaker 4: a chance. I'm not trying to be you know this

2255
01:37:20,240 --> 01:37:24,040
Speaker 4: person that's I'm a realistic guy. I am a huge

2256
01:37:24,080 --> 01:37:27,559
Speaker 4: realistic guy. But I watched the Giants get better this year.

2257
01:37:28,040 --> 01:37:30,400
Speaker 4: They were not good the first two months of the season.

2258
01:37:30,840 --> 01:37:34,000
Speaker 4: The last couple games they were a pretty good team.

2259
01:37:34,560 --> 01:37:37,080
Speaker 4: Tonight wasn't an indication of that. I think they took

2260
01:37:37,120 --> 01:37:40,880
Speaker 4: a step backwards. But that's how the NFL is. The Giants.

2261
01:37:40,920 --> 01:37:42,400
Speaker 4: The first two months of the season, they just dug

2262
01:37:42,439 --> 01:37:44,479
Speaker 4: themselves in such a deep hole that no matter what

2263
01:37:44,560 --> 01:37:46,160
Speaker 4: they did in the last half of the season, it

2264
01:37:46,200 --> 01:37:48,400
Speaker 4: wouldn't be good enough for the fans. And that's okay,

2265
01:37:48,520 --> 01:37:51,720
Speaker 4: because you guys expect the Giants to win games and

2266
01:37:51,800 --> 01:37:52,919
Speaker 4: win super Bowls.

2267
01:37:52,680 --> 01:37:53,400
Speaker 3: And go to the playoffs.

2268
01:37:53,560 --> 01:37:57,160
Speaker 4: That's the standard here, and that's okay. That's okay, and

2269
01:37:57,200 --> 01:37:59,679
Speaker 4: so it's okay to be disappointed. But what I don't

2270
01:37:59,680 --> 01:38:01,559
Speaker 4: want you guys are do give up on this season.

2271
01:38:01,600 --> 01:38:04,240
Speaker 4: It's not over quite yet the players will not give

2272
01:38:04,320 --> 01:38:07,000
Speaker 4: up on this season because their livelihoods depend on it.

2273
01:38:07,520 --> 01:38:08,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, look, and I think too, JC.

2274
01:38:08,880 --> 01:38:11,679
Speaker 2: These last three games will tell you a lot about

2275
01:38:12,040 --> 01:38:14,080
Speaker 2: exactly what this team is. And I was gonna save

2276
01:38:14,120 --> 01:38:15,519
Speaker 2: this for the Eagles preview in the next segment, but

2277
01:38:15,560 --> 01:38:16,880
Speaker 2: we will do it here since you brought it up.

2278
01:38:17,200 --> 01:38:21,000
Speaker 2: You know, how much of these last three victories is

2279
01:38:21,080 --> 01:38:23,120
Speaker 2: something you could carry forward or was that the blip?

2280
01:38:23,479 --> 01:38:24,840
Speaker 2: Was the bad playing the blip or was the good

2281
01:38:24,880 --> 01:38:27,160
Speaker 2: play in the blop? What's the true nature of what

2282
01:38:27,280 --> 01:38:30,479
Speaker 2: we're looking at here? I think you know you're going

2283
01:38:30,600 --> 01:38:32,479
Speaker 2: up in weight class now. Where we talked about playing

2284
01:38:33,160 --> 01:38:35,400
Speaker 2: teams kind of in the bottom of the league with

2285
01:38:35,600 --> 01:38:37,960
Speaker 2: Washington and New England, then you kind of bump up

2286
01:38:38,000 --> 01:38:39,800
Speaker 2: in class. You beat a team like the Packers, who

2287
01:38:39,840 --> 01:38:41,360
Speaker 2: I think is in the same class as the Saints.

2288
01:38:41,400 --> 01:38:44,599
Speaker 2: So you kind of got smacked around a little bit today, right,

2289
01:38:44,880 --> 01:38:47,559
Speaker 2: But now you go to the Eagles, and the Eagles

2290
01:38:47,640 --> 01:38:49,559
Speaker 2: right now are right with Dallas. They're right with San

2291
01:38:49,600 --> 01:38:52,200
Speaker 2: Francisco as being some of the top teams in the NFC.

2292
01:38:52,320 --> 01:38:54,519
Speaker 2: Dallas getting smacked around themselves today, by the way down

2293
01:38:54,560 --> 01:38:56,920
Speaker 2: twenty one to three to the Bills. So this is

2294
01:38:57,000 --> 01:38:59,559
Speaker 2: going this is going to be and the Rams, by

2295
01:38:59,600 --> 01:39:01,639
Speaker 2: the way, playing really good football too. They're probably gonna

2296
01:39:01,640 --> 01:39:03,720
Speaker 2: be a playoff team. So you got three play three

2297
01:39:03,800 --> 01:39:06,760
Speaker 2: games against three playoff teams in your final three games? Hang,

2298
01:39:07,080 --> 01:39:09,120
Speaker 2: how well can you hang? Can you play close games?

2299
01:39:09,160 --> 01:39:11,000
Speaker 2: Are you gonna get blown out? Are you gonna win

2300
01:39:11,040 --> 01:39:12,280
Speaker 2: on a blowout on one of these games?

2301
01:39:12,280 --> 01:39:14,560
Speaker 3: Who knows? However these games happen to go?

2302
01:39:15,200 --> 01:39:18,120
Speaker 2: Well, I think I'm not gonna say defined because I

2303
01:39:18,160 --> 01:39:21,519
Speaker 2: think smart people don't let individual games define how you're gonna.

2304
01:39:21,320 --> 01:39:22,160
Speaker 3: Shoot your offseason.

2305
01:39:22,439 --> 01:39:24,880
Speaker 2: But it'll give you a better idea of exactly what

2306
01:39:25,040 --> 01:39:27,479
Speaker 2: the true nature of this team is as you start

2307
01:39:27,560 --> 01:39:29,479
Speaker 2: to make some of those big offseason decisions.

2308
01:39:29,880 --> 01:39:33,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, And one of the main things that's going into

2309
01:39:33,360 --> 01:39:36,960
Speaker 4: this offseason, which is already established already, is the health

2310
01:39:37,000 --> 01:39:40,519
Speaker 4: of Daniel Jones. We all understand Daniel Jones had surgery

2311
01:39:40,600 --> 01:39:43,840
Speaker 4: on his acl Most guys, they don't come back at

2312
01:39:43,880 --> 01:39:48,320
Speaker 4: one hundred percent, right, But most importantly, if he is back,

2313
01:39:48,880 --> 01:39:51,760
Speaker 4: you know, come excuse me, The question is will he

2314
01:39:51,920 --> 01:39:54,960
Speaker 4: be back? Excuse me? But that first game, and if

2315
01:39:55,000 --> 01:39:56,439
Speaker 4: you look at the Jets, and I'm using him as

2316
01:39:56,479 --> 01:40:00,920
Speaker 4: an example right now. They signed Aaron Rodgers, right, but

2317
01:40:01,040 --> 01:40:03,400
Speaker 4: they didn't answer the what if question. What if Aaron

2318
01:40:03,479 --> 01:40:06,120
Speaker 4: Rodgers got hurt and he got hurt four plays in

2319
01:40:06,240 --> 01:40:08,880
Speaker 4: and they were back to Zach Wilson, which they were,

2320
01:40:09,080 --> 01:40:11,720
Speaker 4: you know, last year, and I think everybody moved on

2321
01:40:11,800 --> 01:40:14,400
Speaker 4: from him last year. But they didn't expect him to

2322
01:40:14,439 --> 01:40:17,519
Speaker 4: play so early, or if he did, you know, they

2323
01:40:17,880 --> 01:40:20,920
Speaker 4: wasn't expecting you know, Aaron Rodgers to be gone for

2324
01:40:21,000 --> 01:40:24,280
Speaker 4: the whole season, just like the Giants. The Giants had

2325
01:40:24,320 --> 01:40:27,839
Speaker 4: a great what if backup in Tyrod Taylor, but Tyrod

2326
01:40:27,840 --> 01:40:30,920
Speaker 4: Taylor got hurt. So now the Giants are answering the

2327
01:40:31,080 --> 01:40:34,719
Speaker 4: what if question, What if Daniel Jones is not healthy

2328
01:40:35,280 --> 01:40:39,960
Speaker 4: next year when the season starts, Ken Tomy DeVito win games, Yes,

2329
01:40:40,360 --> 01:40:43,880
Speaker 4: he's already done. It is the offense good enough right

2330
01:40:43,960 --> 01:40:47,519
Speaker 4: now to win games without Daniel Jones, That is the

2331
01:40:47,600 --> 01:40:50,360
Speaker 4: question that the Giants are still trying to answer now.

2332
01:40:50,439 --> 01:40:54,559
Speaker 4: With Daniel Jones, the Giants weren't winning games with this offense,

2333
01:40:54,640 --> 01:40:57,040
Speaker 4: and it wasn't due to Daniel Jones. It was due

2334
01:40:57,080 --> 01:41:02,839
Speaker 4: to the inefficiency of the collective offensive output. The offensive

2335
01:41:02,880 --> 01:41:05,680
Speaker 4: line played the health of the offensive line, the receivers,

2336
01:41:05,960 --> 01:41:09,040
Speaker 4: the running backs, the tight ends. It's a collective effort.

2337
01:41:09,080 --> 01:41:10,040
Speaker 4: It's not just on one guy.

2338
01:41:10,200 --> 01:41:12,080
Speaker 3: It frankly looked a lot like the offense did tonight.

2339
01:41:12,479 --> 01:41:15,599
Speaker 4: Yes, the whole season. But what I think the Giants

2340
01:41:15,640 --> 01:41:18,599
Speaker 4: have answered is what if Daniel Jones is not healthy?

2341
01:41:18,640 --> 01:41:20,920
Speaker 4: And that is a huge question. That is the number

2342
01:41:20,960 --> 01:41:23,360
Speaker 4: one question that's going to be, you know, asked this

2343
01:41:23,560 --> 01:41:26,040
Speaker 4: offseason is what if Daniel Jones is not healthy for

2344
01:41:26,160 --> 01:41:28,280
Speaker 4: Week one? And the answer is, as of right now,

2345
01:41:28,720 --> 01:41:32,000
Speaker 4: is Tommy DeVito? Can they do something else? I think

2346
01:41:32,160 --> 01:41:36,000
Speaker 4: if we know Daniel Jones is not going to be healthy,

2347
01:41:36,400 --> 01:41:39,040
Speaker 4: the Giants do have to bring in another quarterback because

2348
01:41:39,080 --> 01:41:41,120
Speaker 4: the Giants cannot start the season with only Tommy DeVito

2349
01:41:41,160 --> 01:41:41,519
Speaker 4: and the roster.

2350
01:41:41,640 --> 01:41:44,200
Speaker 3: Of course, that can't happen, and Tyrod Tayls are free, right,

2351
01:41:44,439 --> 01:41:45,439
Speaker 3: so throw.

2352
01:41:45,320 --> 01:41:47,479
Speaker 4: That in it. That's I'm kind of leading with that.

2353
01:41:47,600 --> 01:41:50,080
Speaker 4: I just didn't say that. But so, in terms of

2354
01:41:50,240 --> 01:41:54,360
Speaker 4: quarterback play, the Giants this year have not had great

2355
01:41:54,800 --> 01:41:58,519
Speaker 4: consistent quarterback play, but at times Tommy DeVito looks special

2356
01:41:59,120 --> 01:42:02,080
Speaker 4: this year. Last year, a twenty twenty two Daniel Jones

2357
01:42:02,120 --> 01:42:05,599
Speaker 4: looks special at times, won a playoff game. The Giants

2358
01:42:05,640 --> 01:42:08,559
Speaker 4: haven't done that in over ten years. So I don't

2359
01:42:08,560 --> 01:42:11,120
Speaker 4: want to take anything away from anybody that played quarterback

2360
01:42:11,160 --> 01:42:13,040
Speaker 4: for the New York Giants this year. It was an

2361
01:42:13,080 --> 01:42:16,120
Speaker 4: unfortunate turn of events. Your best player on offense goes

2362
01:42:16,160 --> 01:42:19,360
Speaker 4: down in Dallas, and Andrew Thomas say Kwan Barkley follows

2363
01:42:19,439 --> 01:42:21,880
Speaker 4: him being out, and he's the second best player on

2364
01:42:21,960 --> 01:42:24,800
Speaker 4: the offense, and you go weeks trying to figure out

2365
01:42:24,840 --> 01:42:28,559
Speaker 4: what your identity is. Now you get to week whatever, fourteen, fifteen,

2366
01:42:29,280 --> 01:42:31,640
Speaker 4: you're still trying to figure it out because it's been

2367
01:42:31,680 --> 01:42:33,759
Speaker 4: a carousel of players in and out of the lineup.

2368
01:42:33,920 --> 01:42:37,080
Speaker 4: They just got Darren wallerback, who is undoubtedly a top

2369
01:42:37,160 --> 01:42:38,960
Speaker 4: five tight end in the league. They just got him

2370
01:42:39,000 --> 01:42:42,679
Speaker 4: back tonight. So due to injuries this year for the Giants,

2371
01:42:42,720 --> 01:42:45,720
Speaker 4: and I think the inefficiencies of quarterback and offensive play

2372
01:42:46,040 --> 01:42:48,800
Speaker 4: because of so many injuries that happened, there's so many

2373
01:42:48,960 --> 01:42:52,680
Speaker 4: question marks that go into this offense. But what I

2374
01:42:52,720 --> 01:42:55,920
Speaker 4: think the Giants are doing, they're answering that what if question.

2375
01:42:56,439 --> 01:42:59,720
Speaker 4: What if Daniel Jones is not healthy to play at

2376
01:42:59,760 --> 01:43:02,519
Speaker 4: the start of twenty twenty four and as of right now,

2377
01:43:02,880 --> 01:43:06,280
Speaker 4: the answer says it's Tommy DeVito, but he's not the

2378
01:43:06,400 --> 01:43:10,080
Speaker 4: answer to solve this offensive question because he's not the problem.

2379
01:43:10,280 --> 01:43:12,800
Speaker 4: He's not the main problem. There are other things that

2380
01:43:12,880 --> 01:43:16,320
Speaker 4: are factoring in to the inadequacies of the offense, and

2381
01:43:16,520 --> 01:43:19,000
Speaker 4: that's also what the Giants have to address, and we'll

2382
01:43:19,040 --> 01:43:20,680
Speaker 4: see that in the offseason, But as of right now,

2383
01:43:21,560 --> 01:43:23,880
Speaker 4: the only thing they can do is take accountability for

2384
01:43:23,960 --> 01:43:26,439
Speaker 4: what's happening on the field, and that's exactly what they're doing.

2385
01:43:26,720 --> 01:43:28,920
Speaker 4: And they're gonna go out practice and they're gonna go

2386
01:43:29,040 --> 01:43:31,880
Speaker 4: down to Philadelphia trying to win a football game. You're

2387
01:43:31,880 --> 01:43:33,000
Speaker 4: not gonna go down there and be like, all right,

2388
01:43:33,040 --> 01:43:34,639
Speaker 4: let's not get blown out by that much. No, you're

2389
01:43:34,680 --> 01:43:37,040
Speaker 4: gonna go down there saying we're going to go into

2390
01:43:37,080 --> 01:43:40,080
Speaker 4: Philly and beat them. Yes, it's a hard it's a

2391
01:43:40,120 --> 01:43:42,519
Speaker 4: hard question to ask, it's hard to answer that. But

2392
01:43:42,680 --> 01:43:45,880
Speaker 4: there's a chance. There's no undefeated teams in the league

2393
01:43:45,920 --> 01:43:49,360
Speaker 4: this year. Everybody has lost. So the Giants do have

2394
01:43:49,439 --> 01:43:51,599
Speaker 4: a chance. Do I give them? Do I say yes,

2395
01:43:51,640 --> 01:43:53,160
Speaker 4: they're gonna go in there and be Philly. No, but

2396
01:43:53,240 --> 01:43:56,200
Speaker 4: they have a chance because they have high character guys

2397
01:43:56,240 --> 01:43:59,479
Speaker 4: in the locker room, and at times they can score points.

2398
01:43:59,840 --> 01:44:02,719
Speaker 4: The defense can create six turners like they're getting against Commanders,

2399
01:44:02,800 --> 01:44:05,200
Speaker 4: which is a lot to ask Milk. They give themselves

2400
01:44:05,240 --> 01:44:08,160
Speaker 4: a chance. It'll be the defense that wins the game

2401
01:44:08,439 --> 01:44:11,680
Speaker 4: in Philly, just like it's the defense today that I

2402
01:44:11,880 --> 01:44:16,360
Speaker 4: think allowed the Saints' offense to look like a world beater,

2403
01:44:16,800 --> 01:44:19,719
Speaker 4: because the defense has set the tone for the Giants

2404
01:44:19,840 --> 01:44:21,400
Speaker 4: this entire season.

2405
01:44:22,080 --> 01:44:23,880
Speaker 3: All right, let's take a quick time out. We'll come back.

2406
01:44:23,920 --> 01:44:26,080
Speaker 2: We'll here Bobby Ocage downstairs, do a little bit on

2407
01:44:26,120 --> 01:44:28,320
Speaker 2: the defense, and we'll wrap things up on Pepsi Giants

2408
01:44:28,360 --> 01:44:30,200
Speaker 2: extra point. All right, we're back here on Pepsi Giants

2409
01:44:30,240 --> 01:44:34,080
Speaker 2: extra point. John Smelk, Jonathan Casias final segment. Here Giants

2410
01:44:34,160 --> 01:44:37,480
Speaker 2: fall to the Saints twenty four to six. Franken Sayast

2411
01:44:37,680 --> 01:44:40,760
Speaker 2: wants to react to jc's little monologue there on the

2412
01:44:40,800 --> 01:44:41,519
Speaker 2: Giants future.

2413
01:44:41,600 --> 01:44:42,280
Speaker 3: Frank, what's going on?

2414
01:44:42,400 --> 01:44:42,519
Speaker 2: Man?

2415
01:44:42,560 --> 01:44:42,920
Speaker 4: How are you?

2416
01:44:43,920 --> 01:44:44,120
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2417
01:44:44,160 --> 01:44:44,320
Speaker 15: Ahi?

2418
01:44:44,439 --> 01:44:46,439
Speaker 19: Guys, I just wanted to say, you know, I think

2419
01:44:46,479 --> 01:44:49,639
Speaker 19: it's been a great month of December. It is hard

2420
01:44:49,680 --> 01:44:52,360
Speaker 19: to come back from a two to eight record. I

2421
01:44:52,439 --> 01:44:55,720
Speaker 19: think the last three weeks have been very exciting. You know,

2422
01:44:55,880 --> 01:45:00,120
Speaker 19: I think you found something in Tommy d VETI to

2423
01:45:00,200 --> 01:45:03,799
Speaker 19: the second youngest team in the league, aren't they Yes.

2424
01:45:03,640 --> 01:45:04,639
Speaker 3: I believe that's correct.

2425
01:45:05,080 --> 01:45:07,439
Speaker 19: Yeah, so you have a lot of rookies on the team. Uh,

2426
01:45:08,200 --> 01:45:11,720
Speaker 19: you know, you know your guys are rising up, Unexpected

2427
01:45:11,760 --> 01:45:13,400
Speaker 19: guys are rising up. I think I talk to you

2428
01:45:13,479 --> 01:45:17,479
Speaker 19: guys about Nick McLeod and Pin Knock's been great in

2429
01:45:17,479 --> 01:45:20,639
Speaker 19: the past couple of games. Fionty Banks had a great

2430
01:45:20,680 --> 01:45:22,000
Speaker 19: game against the Packers.

2431
01:45:22,680 --> 01:45:22,840
Speaker 25: Uh.

2432
01:45:23,160 --> 01:45:25,679
Speaker 19: You know, Thibodell has really proven a lot of people

2433
01:45:25,840 --> 01:45:30,439
Speaker 19: wrong this year. Uh you know, you know, you know

2434
01:45:30,640 --> 01:45:33,840
Speaker 19: it was an off day today, but uh, I still have.

2435
01:45:33,880 --> 01:45:34,439
Speaker 13: A lot of hope.

2436
01:45:34,439 --> 01:45:36,639
Speaker 19: I'm a Giants fan. I'll always be a Giants fan.

2437
01:45:37,360 --> 01:45:39,720
Speaker 19: And I just want to ask you one thing.

2438
01:45:39,840 --> 01:45:41,040
Speaker 13: I mean, does does.

2439
01:45:40,880 --> 01:45:44,479
Speaker 19: Today's offensive performance do you think it falls in eight

2440
01:45:44,560 --> 01:45:48,200
Speaker 19: way on on coach Stable? Do you think that there

2441
01:45:48,200 --> 01:45:49,680
Speaker 19: could have been more creativity?

2442
01:45:50,640 --> 01:45:50,800
Speaker 3: Uh?

2443
01:45:51,160 --> 01:45:51,479
Speaker 14: Today?

2444
01:45:53,040 --> 01:45:55,000
Speaker 2: Hey, look, I think when you score six points, I

2445
01:45:55,080 --> 01:45:57,040
Speaker 2: think you know, I think Brian Dable would say this too.

2446
01:45:57,040 --> 01:45:59,040
Speaker 2: I think everyone has a hand in that, you know,

2447
01:45:59,320 --> 01:46:02,920
Speaker 2: and it's not trust certainly, I would not put a

2448
01:46:03,160 --> 01:46:06,519
Speaker 2: majority or even a lot or that on the coaches here,

2449
01:46:06,640 --> 01:46:08,560
Speaker 2: because if you can't block, it's it's really hard to

2450
01:46:08,800 --> 01:46:11,240
Speaker 2: you can go over and play a want If you

2451
01:46:11,320 --> 01:46:13,960
Speaker 2: can't block up front and you can't protect, it's really

2452
01:46:14,040 --> 01:46:16,000
Speaker 2: difficult for an offense to function. I don't care what

2453
01:46:16,120 --> 01:46:18,960
Speaker 2: plays you're calling, but look, when when you only score

2454
01:46:19,000 --> 01:46:20,479
Speaker 2: six points and you have under two and yards of

2455
01:46:20,560 --> 01:46:23,560
Speaker 2: total offense, there is blame to go around, obviously, but

2456
01:46:23,840 --> 01:46:25,760
Speaker 2: I think this was more of an execution issue than

2457
01:46:25,800 --> 01:46:26,360
Speaker 2: anything else.

2458
01:46:26,600 --> 01:46:28,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you throw the defense in there too. Like

2459
01:46:28,400 --> 01:46:30,479
Speaker 4: I said, the defense has been set in the standard

2460
01:46:30,520 --> 01:46:32,840
Speaker 4: and they didn't play up to their standard today. So

2461
01:46:32,960 --> 01:46:35,599
Speaker 4: when you talk about complimentary football, that goes hand in hand.

2462
01:46:35,640 --> 01:46:38,400
Speaker 4: And the defense has been dominant over the last few

2463
01:46:38,439 --> 01:46:40,799
Speaker 4: weeks and they didn't do that today, and that definitely

2464
01:46:40,800 --> 01:46:42,600
Speaker 4: affects the offense. You know, the offense is kind of

2465
01:46:42,680 --> 01:46:44,840
Speaker 4: used to getting you know, some short fields and some

2466
01:46:45,000 --> 01:46:47,960
Speaker 4: turnovers and some you know, gifts from the defense, and

2467
01:46:47,960 --> 01:46:50,439
Speaker 4: they didn't do that today. So it's not just the offense,

2468
01:46:50,479 --> 01:46:53,320
Speaker 4: it's a defense and coaches, everybody's involved. When you only

2469
01:46:53,360 --> 01:46:54,320
Speaker 4: score six points.

2470
01:46:54,120 --> 01:46:56,040
Speaker 2: In the game, absolutely all right, let's see it from

2471
01:46:56,040 --> 01:46:58,000
Speaker 2: Bobby Okahakay and one of the defensive leaders.

2472
01:46:58,600 --> 01:46:59,160
Speaker 3: After this game.

2473
01:46:59,160 --> 01:47:00,840
Speaker 2: We've talked a lot about these I haven't talked much

2474
01:47:00,840 --> 01:47:03,360
Speaker 2: about the defense. Let's see it from Bobby Okarake what

2475
01:47:03,479 --> 01:47:05,960
Speaker 2: he thought about the job the defense did in today's

2476
01:47:06,040 --> 01:47:07,639
Speaker 2: game and loss against the Saints.

2477
01:47:08,200 --> 01:47:11,800
Speaker 12: Car in particular, looked incredibly sharp today. What was it

2478
01:47:11,880 --> 01:47:13,519
Speaker 12: about the way he was one of the offense that

2479
01:47:13,600 --> 01:47:15,400
Speaker 12: made it so difficult for you guys to stop him?

2480
01:47:16,040 --> 01:47:18,040
Speaker 27: I mean, he's a vetinous league and we didn't do

2481
01:47:18,080 --> 01:47:19,160
Speaker 27: a lot to get him off his rhythm.

2482
01:47:20,000 --> 01:47:21,040
Speaker 5: So you know, they were just executing.

2483
01:47:21,560 --> 01:47:24,880
Speaker 27: They're hitting the shots, they're in their checkdowns. Run game

2484
01:47:25,000 --> 01:47:27,400
Speaker 27: was bleeding on us. So they just played a more

2485
01:47:27,439 --> 01:47:28,080
Speaker 27: complete game than we.

2486
01:47:28,080 --> 01:47:31,799
Speaker 12: Didn't after the three game winning streak. How disappointing and deflating?

2487
01:47:32,000 --> 01:47:34,200
Speaker 12: Is this one to come here and not perform up

2488
01:47:34,200 --> 01:47:35,080
Speaker 12: to your expectations.

2489
01:47:35,240 --> 01:47:35,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's tough.

2490
01:47:35,880 --> 01:47:36,720
Speaker 10: I mean it's just one game.

2491
01:47:37,160 --> 01:47:39,360
Speaker 27: We have three more left, so we'll watch the film

2492
01:47:39,400 --> 01:47:40,960
Speaker 27: from this, get the corrections done, and move on to

2493
01:47:41,000 --> 01:47:41,240
Speaker 27: the next.

2494
01:47:42,280 --> 01:47:44,880
Speaker 12: When you came out at halftime, did you guys feel

2495
01:47:45,000 --> 01:47:46,720
Speaker 12: like there was a chance to kind of turn the

2496
01:47:46,840 --> 01:47:49,679
Speaker 12: tide and why did the ball continue to snowball?

2497
01:47:49,720 --> 01:47:50,160
Speaker 5: Down the hill.

2498
01:47:50,360 --> 01:47:53,160
Speaker 27: Yeah, we felt we had an opportunity, you know, defensive,

2499
01:47:53,160 --> 01:47:56,160
Speaker 27: We've been talking all week about embracing the challenge and really,

2500
01:47:56,160 --> 01:47:57,559
Speaker 27: if we want to put our team in position to win,

2501
01:47:57,600 --> 01:48:01,000
Speaker 27: it's got to be on us, you know, executing, creating turnovers.

2502
01:48:02,120 --> 01:48:04,240
Speaker 27: Really just you know, getting that momentum swing and you know,

2503
01:48:04,360 --> 01:48:06,560
Speaker 27: coming out in the second half and having them go

2504
01:48:06,640 --> 01:48:07,559
Speaker 27: down and drive and score.

2505
01:48:07,640 --> 01:48:08,519
Speaker 4: That's not what we need.

2506
01:48:08,680 --> 01:48:11,000
Speaker 5: So we just got to do better from that standpoint.

2507
01:48:11,160 --> 01:48:11,280
Speaker 2: You know.

2508
01:48:11,400 --> 01:48:14,439
Speaker 12: Finally, twelve turnovers takeaways you guys had during the three

2509
01:48:14,479 --> 01:48:17,200
Speaker 12: game winning streak, you didn't have any today. A lot

2510
01:48:17,200 --> 01:48:19,360
Speaker 12: of folks will immediately say, well, that's a big part

2511
01:48:19,400 --> 01:48:21,920
Speaker 12: of it. But turnovers can sometimes be lucky, right, I

2512
01:48:21,960 --> 01:48:23,640
Speaker 12: mean you can't always just get them when you want them.

2513
01:48:24,000 --> 01:48:25,880
Speaker 27: Yeah, I mean it's just the flow of the game.

2514
01:48:25,960 --> 01:48:28,799
Speaker 27: But I mean history tells us if we get turnovers,

2515
01:48:28,840 --> 01:48:30,639
Speaker 27: will win the game. So we just got to put

2516
01:48:30,640 --> 01:48:33,240
Speaker 27: an extra emphasis on that in practice. Get our mindset

2517
01:48:33,320 --> 01:48:34,559
Speaker 27: right about that, and you know we'll get a better

2518
01:48:34,560 --> 01:48:35,439
Speaker 27: resul Thanks Mondy.

2519
01:48:35,560 --> 01:48:39,120
Speaker 2: Thank you're looking at some of the early PFF reports

2520
01:48:39,160 --> 01:48:41,639
Speaker 2: here based on what the Giants did in this game.

2521
01:48:41,720 --> 01:48:44,680
Speaker 3: From a blitzing and coverage perspective. They have them down

2522
01:48:44,760 --> 01:48:47,000
Speaker 3: for a forty eight percent blitz rate, which is obviously

2523
01:48:47,200 --> 01:48:47,880
Speaker 3: very very high.

2524
01:48:48,200 --> 01:48:52,920
Speaker 2: That'll land them easily in the top five in terms

2525
01:48:52,960 --> 01:48:55,120
Speaker 2: of this week in terms of blitz percentage. In terms

2526
01:48:55,160 --> 01:48:56,960
Speaker 2: of the coverage schemes, my sense is that they didn't

2527
01:48:56,960 --> 01:48:58,360
Speaker 2: play a ton of man to man in this game.

2528
01:48:58,560 --> 01:48:59,920
Speaker 3: You know what, they actually played more than I thought.

2529
01:49:00,000 --> 01:49:03,360
Speaker 2: They're run around twenty six percent cover one, six percent

2530
01:49:03,479 --> 01:49:05,840
Speaker 2: cover zero. That's over thirty one thirty two percent man

2531
01:49:05,920 --> 01:49:08,400
Speaker 2: to man. That that that's actually about where they are

2532
01:49:08,479 --> 01:49:10,960
Speaker 2: from a season perspective. But I still feel like they're

2533
01:49:10,960 --> 01:49:13,320
Speaker 2: playing a little bit more zone JC than we've seen

2534
01:49:13,880 --> 01:49:15,720
Speaker 2: earlier in the year, and then includes the last couple

2535
01:49:15,720 --> 01:49:17,439
Speaker 2: of weeks too. I think they did a ton of

2536
01:49:17,560 --> 01:49:19,840
Speaker 2: zone I think they were under twenty percent man to

2537
01:49:19,920 --> 01:49:22,280
Speaker 2: man against the Packers last week. Do you feel like

2538
01:49:23,160 --> 01:49:25,280
Speaker 2: the strategy shifting a little bit in terms of how

2539
01:49:25,280 --> 01:49:26,479
Speaker 2: they designed the cover back there?

2540
01:49:27,000 --> 01:49:28,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so. You know, I think I look

2541
01:49:29,000 --> 01:49:31,040
Speaker 4: back to that Miami game early in the year where

2542
01:49:31,040 --> 01:49:32,880
Speaker 4: the Giants gave up a lot of yards, but they

2543
01:49:33,080 --> 01:49:35,160
Speaker 4: actually turned the ball over three times. If you're not

2544
01:49:35,240 --> 01:49:37,360
Speaker 4: mistaken and now were like that was like the first

2545
01:49:37,400 --> 01:49:39,519
Speaker 4: time with the Giant was able to take the ball

2546
01:49:39,600 --> 01:49:40,800
Speaker 4: away that this year.

2547
01:49:41,240 --> 01:49:41,400
Speaker 10: You know.

2548
01:49:41,560 --> 01:49:43,839
Speaker 4: So I think, you know, in terms of a defensive

2549
01:49:43,840 --> 01:49:47,439
Speaker 4: coordinator offensive coordinator, I don't think you stick to your

2550
01:49:47,479 --> 01:49:49,840
Speaker 4: guns when your guns aren't working, you know, I think

2551
01:49:49,920 --> 01:49:51,799
Speaker 4: you you switch it up. And that's what the Giants

2552
01:49:51,840 --> 01:49:53,920
Speaker 4: did this year. You know, the Giants were two and

2553
01:49:54,000 --> 01:49:55,920
Speaker 4: eight at one point, you know, and the Giants had

2554
01:49:55,960 --> 01:49:57,880
Speaker 4: to figure out a way, to me, you know, these

2555
01:49:57,960 --> 01:50:00,320
Speaker 4: things aren't working for us, So let's figure out way

2556
01:50:00,360 --> 01:50:02,320
Speaker 4: to make this thing work with the guys that we have,

2557
01:50:02,920 --> 01:50:04,679
Speaker 4: you know. And that I think that goat that falls

2558
01:50:04,720 --> 01:50:07,240
Speaker 4: on the wake Martin Dale's and Kafka's arms, you know.

2559
01:50:07,360 --> 01:50:09,040
Speaker 4: And I think they did a pretty good job this

2560
01:50:09,160 --> 01:50:11,839
Speaker 4: year and switching things up and you know, self scouting

2561
01:50:11,880 --> 01:50:13,840
Speaker 4: and what works for them and what doesn't and then

2562
01:50:13,920 --> 01:50:16,439
Speaker 4: putting a better product out there. And tonight I think

2563
01:50:16,520 --> 01:50:18,000
Speaker 4: it was a little bit of a step back, but

2564
01:50:18,439 --> 01:50:20,840
Speaker 4: it happens, man, you know, And the Giants went down

2565
01:50:20,880 --> 01:50:22,479
Speaker 4: in New Orleans and you know, kind of got beat

2566
01:50:22,560 --> 01:50:24,280
Speaker 4: up a little bit or a lot of bit, however

2567
01:50:24,280 --> 01:50:25,840
Speaker 4: you want to look at it. But you know, the

2568
01:50:25,920 --> 01:50:28,360
Speaker 4: Giants have high character guys, man, and you know, I

2569
01:50:28,439 --> 01:50:30,240
Speaker 4: look forward to them having a good week of practice.

2570
01:50:30,280 --> 01:50:31,880
Speaker 4: And look, Philly is always tough.

2571
01:50:32,000 --> 01:50:32,160
Speaker 18: You know.

2572
01:50:32,400 --> 01:50:34,840
Speaker 4: We beat Philly when I played, and after that the

2573
01:50:34,920 --> 01:50:37,679
Speaker 4: Giants haven't really done well against Philly or the Cowboys,

2574
01:50:37,720 --> 01:50:40,360
Speaker 4: you know, so this would be a litmus test on

2575
01:50:40,760 --> 01:50:43,240
Speaker 4: to see, Like, look, this is gonna be a hard game.

2576
01:50:43,680 --> 01:50:45,559
Speaker 4: Philly's rough, the crowd is rough.

2577
01:50:45,640 --> 01:50:45,800
Speaker 13: You know.

2578
01:50:45,920 --> 01:50:48,720
Speaker 4: They throw batteries. They throw batteries at the bus on

2579
01:50:48,760 --> 01:50:50,600
Speaker 4: the way in, you know, so this is gonna be

2580
01:50:50,640 --> 01:50:51,639
Speaker 4: a hostile environment.

2581
01:50:52,400 --> 01:50:57,160
Speaker 3: Batteries, no, their D batteries, D D batteries at the busy.

2582
01:50:56,720 --> 01:50:59,920
Speaker 4: Flying from thirty yards away. Those Philly guys can throw

2583
01:51:00,240 --> 01:51:00,839
Speaker 4: very well.

2584
01:51:01,640 --> 01:51:03,599
Speaker 3: Rocking the D batteries out of the boombox, right.

2585
01:51:03,680 --> 01:51:05,720
Speaker 4: You know, So look forward to be a challenge, you know.

2586
01:51:05,880 --> 01:51:07,760
Speaker 4: But I think these guys are up for you know,

2587
01:51:07,920 --> 01:51:10,280
Speaker 4: these guys don't show quit. You know, the game just

2588
01:51:10,360 --> 01:51:11,800
Speaker 4: kind of get out of hand and then it kind

2589
01:51:11,800 --> 01:51:13,800
Speaker 4: of snowballs on them a little bit. And you know

2590
01:51:13,960 --> 01:51:16,360
Speaker 4: that's they're all human beings, you know. And the Giants

2591
01:51:16,439 --> 01:51:18,720
Speaker 4: have a like I said, they have good character guys.

2592
01:51:18,760 --> 01:51:21,040
Speaker 4: They have good leaders in that locker room, and expect

2593
01:51:21,080 --> 01:51:23,360
Speaker 4: them to have a good week of practice. Now next week,

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01:51:23,400 --> 01:51:25,680
Speaker 4: I'm not saying they're gonna beat the Eagles or blow

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Speaker 4: them out or anything like that, but you know, I

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Speaker 4: expect them to have a good week of practice and

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Speaker 4: go ahead and take the field against Philly on Christmas

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Speaker 4: Day and hopefully give us something cheerbot.

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Speaker 2: Hey, look at another test up front, right you shout

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Speaker 2: trouble this week against the Saints upfront on both sides

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Speaker 2: of the Eagles have one of the best offensive lines

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Speaker 2: they don't have to play better up front if they

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Speaker 2: want to defeat the Eagles next week. And that game

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Speaker 2: ready to rock on Christmas Day. You open the presence,

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