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Speaker 2: cloudy day here on Delmarva. I'll take it because the
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Speaker 2: of Hurricane Idealia. Unfortunately though, that has brought this weather
Speaker 2: up this way that actually affected the AW show from
Speaker 2: last night. But I don't want to push it too
Speaker 2: fast too soon. As always, there's a lot to get
Speaker 2: into today. First surprise, you know, I'm here, boss Man.
Speaker 2: Brian Alvarez has been placed on the disabled list with
Speaker 2: COVID for right now for gambling purposes. He's being listed
Speaker 2: as day to day in other radio gaming news. Without
Speaker 2: Brian here, the over under on misspoken Words has now
Speaker 2: gone up to ten and a half at the MGM.
Speaker 2: I think you can still get ten at the Circa
Speaker 2: and maybe at the South Point. So as a good
Speaker 2: better would make sure you explore your options, but doalthy.
Speaker 2: Tom Lawler will be joining me after the break to
Speaker 2: kind of ease us into today. It's Thursday. The big
Speaker 2: news of the day the AW show from last night, Dynamite,
Speaker 2: the first of three nights and four shows over the
Speaker 2: course of five days, emanating from the city of Chicago,
Speaker 2: ending on Sunday, obviously with all out from the All
Speaker 2: State Arena, so we'll be getting into that show. We
Speaker 2: now have a clear picture of what is going to
Speaker 2: be taking place. I'm also going to warn you early,
Speaker 2: like now there are going to be spoilers for Rampage. Sorry.
Speaker 2: Dave and Brian already set the president today on Wrestling
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Speaker 2: with us on the radio or on video, but he
Speaker 2: is in the chat right now Filthy Tom Lawler, and
Speaker 2: he is threatening at some point to make a shoot
Speaker 2: snotty run in. Will you be happy about this? Considering
Speaker 2: I pulled you away from all that you were doing
Speaker 2: today to come on this show.
Speaker 3: I am not prepared to have what I believe Max
Speaker 3: Caster would refer to as a minage on this show.
Speaker 3: I'd like to keep it you and I I'd like
Speaker 3: to keep it professional for once.
Speaker 2: Mike, you like your oratory one on one huh as
Speaker 2: the kids today would say, bet Ah missionary radio here today.
Speaker 3: And if I can go back to the first segment,
Speaker 3: and you mentioned trying to get some bets in at
Speaker 3: Circa or the South Point, which I would just like
Speaker 3: to inform you is the same sports book. So don't
Speaker 3: go to the Circa looking at play some different bets
Speaker 3: than you would at the South Point on Mike's recommendation,
Speaker 3: because Circa actually runs the sports book at the South
Speaker 3: point and speaking about.
Speaker 2: Hey, look I got a lot of homies and feast
Speaker 2: and we gotta plug that stuff.
Speaker 3: Okay, speaking about some money, flipping some money, Mike, you
Speaker 3: want some you want some hot insider tips from me
Speaker 3: on how to make some money? Yes, make some money starting.
Speaker 3: WWE stock is down like fifteen percent today. Really, Yeah,
Speaker 3: speculation is due to this Saudi investment into the PFL
Speaker 3: that the ww stock took a hit. So what do
Speaker 3: you think I've been I've been looking. I've been looking
Speaker 3: for a time to buy this ww stock, and uh,
Speaker 3: today may be as good a time as any.
Speaker 2: What do you think about that? I don't know if
Speaker 2: we spoke about this a couple of weeks ago. I
Speaker 2: had brought it up because of you know, just UFC
Speaker 2: and TKO and obviously Ari Emmanuel when the whole Jamal
Speaker 2: Kashogi thing happened, you know, said we were they pulled
Speaker 2: out of a deal that they had with Saudi Arabia,
Speaker 2: which was supposed to be, you know, a big money deal. Obviously,
Speaker 2: the UFC tied up in different places in Middle East,
Speaker 2: WWE with Saudi Arabia. But it's not like these governments,
Speaker 2: these foreign governments over there we've seen the buy and
Speaker 2: now with the Capitals and the Wizards, as ted Leonsi's
Speaker 2: plans to buy the Washington Nationals has gotten in a
Speaker 2: bunch of money from I think it was cutter. Do
Speaker 2: you have any opinion or any thought on any of
Speaker 2: this stuff as a fighter or as a you know,
Speaker 2: obviously put yourself back kind of in the fighting you
Speaker 2: know mode, you know here, do you care about any
Speaker 2: of this at all? As a fighter? When it comes
Speaker 2: to where the money comes from, if the opportunities then grow.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean you have to have some level of integrity,
Speaker 3: I would some moral compass. Yeah, I wouldn't be taking
Speaker 3: money from you know, people who are out there pulling
Speaker 3: the trigger or you know, knifing somebody's intestines out. But
Speaker 3: if you look at governments throughout the entirety of world history,
Speaker 3: they've been killing people under the radar, on the radar.
Speaker 3: It's not as if the Saudis are the only ones
Speaker 3: to do it. They just got kind of caught in
Speaker 3: that situation, I guess you could say. But like there's
Speaker 3: US ops out there making sure people don't see the
Speaker 3: light of the day tomorrow. So you know, when you
Speaker 3: try to like impose your moral standard on people, especially
Speaker 3: from different cultures as well. There's a lot of gray area,
Speaker 3: and you know, I don't honestly, I really don't see
Speaker 3: any issues with companies being backed by Saudi investment.
Speaker 2: Would you like to continue along this line to talk
Speaker 2: about Kissinger's role in the nineteen seventy three overthrow of Chile.
Speaker 3: I would like to avoid that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we need Nicky Cross to come on
Speaker 2: and talk about world history if we're going to do
Speaker 2: those types of things. I saw today the Wrestling Observer
Speaker 2: twitter feed retweeted her getting her college stuff all straightened
Speaker 2: out and all set where she's continuing on with her
Speaker 2: education as she continues to appear or not appear on
Speaker 2: WWE programming.
Speaker 3: And I will say that's a great thing that WWE
Speaker 3: does and provides to the wrestlers. And there's a lot
Speaker 3: of wrestlers like who are off of ww contract, and
Speaker 3: there's wrestlers who are under AW contract who finish up
Speaker 3: school still on the dime of WWE. That ends up happening.
Speaker 2: Hey, it's part of the schedule that they work on too,
Speaker 2: especially with like an AW. If you're a younger person,
Speaker 2: you know you still want to continue your education and
Speaker 2: you don't think professional wrestling is your whole life and
Speaker 2: you're going to be the biggest star ever, and you
Speaker 2: actually have some you know, some sense of okay what
Speaker 2: happens if you know this is a It really is
Speaker 2: a great thing, especially for those people who have no
Speaker 2: worries at all about taking online courses.
Speaker 3: Yeah, not everybody could be born with a multitude and
Speaker 3: a myriad a Swiss army knife of skills. Not everybody
Speaker 3: can be Rocky Romero and be a wrestler, a shoot
Speaker 3: fighter in jungle fight, a questionable rapper, oh say, rock
Speaker 3: ned Bars, a reggaetone star, an NFT peddler, a cartoon character.
Speaker 2: Everybody.
Speaker 3: Not everybody could be all of those things. So any
Speaker 3: chance that you could get to kind of hone in
Speaker 3: on all these different skills, Like I wish somebody would
Speaker 3: have told me when I was younger, like, hey, you know,
Speaker 3: there's a lot of other things you could do in
Speaker 3: wrestling besides just wrestling that will help you out in wrestling.
Speaker 3: If you could do graphic design, that is a great
Speaker 3: skill to have. Look at Lea Moriarty, great artist, right,
Speaker 3: I don't know, I'm sure he probably designs his own stuff.
Speaker 2: Yes, and for those people who can actually then sew
Speaker 2: and do all that stuff too, it's even it's even more.
Speaker 3: Amazingnuro Suzuki really draws his own designs. Go look at
Speaker 3: the shirts for Pile Driver. He's the one drawing. I
Speaker 3: don't know what kind of background he has besides using
Speaker 3: the canvas to paint with people's blood, but his stuff's
Speaker 3: pretty awesome out there. If you can develop music, if
Speaker 3: you can do graphics and editing, these are all great skills.
Speaker 3: And these are all skills that people have that I
Speaker 3: know that have jobs in high paying professional wrestling companies
Speaker 3: that also do these other things. So I don't know
Speaker 3: how you got started on this, but I don't know either.
Speaker 2: But I had a I had a sticker from independent
Speaker 2: wrestler KaiA McKenna, who you probably see it on Beyond
Speaker 2: or if you watch the pre GCW shows or the
Speaker 2: not the pre but the Shoulder Jersey Championship Wrestling. She's
Speaker 2: appeared a lot on there, and she is I think
Speaker 2: by trade has got something to do with design. But
Speaker 2: if you want to see beautiful merchandise, absolutely beautiful merchandise,
Speaker 2: look at some of her stuff and again. It's nice
Speaker 2: to have skills when you were going to college and
Speaker 2: you are a junior college Hall of Famer. If I'm
Speaker 2: if I'm if I remember that correctly?
Speaker 3: I no, no, no, no. I have a an IA
Speaker 3: A Social Science education degree from the University of Central Florida.
Speaker 2: That's it, and and I an AI a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 2: I believe that they inducted you into there. But that's
Speaker 2: what you're going to school for. What was your minder
Speaker 2: gonna be?
Speaker 3: Did you have one broadcast journalism? No?
Speaker 2: You see how well that's worked out for you. Filthy
Speaker 2: Tom Lawler, Mike semper VV will be back Wrestling Observer Live.
Speaker 2: M gotta let that less Claypool yelp in before we
Speaker 2: begin the show again. Mike semper VB Filthy Tom Lawler
Speaker 2: here with you, Rustling Observer Live Big boss Man Brian
Speaker 2: Alvarez on the shelf today, resting up the voice because
Speaker 2: later on today the Brian and Vinie Show will be
Speaker 2: available for subscribers over at Wrestling Observer dot com.
Speaker 3: Yes, Tom, would you say that Brian today is kind
Speaker 3: of like an elf on a shelf?
Speaker 2: You could? You could say something like that, Yes.
Speaker 3: The holiday season is rapidly approaching.
Speaker 2: It is pumpkin spices out, which you know the candy
Speaker 2: canes are coming next. It's true, we do this stuff
Speaker 2: way too early in this country. Do they do this
Speaker 2: like this everywhere? Is this like this in Canada as
Speaker 2: well too? I know they have a different Thanksgiving date,
Speaker 2: but like before there, they put out everything three months
Speaker 2: at a time.
Speaker 3: I don't think they have an off season for stuff
Speaker 3: that's maple and pumpkin. When is their summer? Please let
Speaker 3: me know.
Speaker 2: I used to be in the booze business, for those
Speaker 2: who don't know, and I used to run liquor stores
Speaker 2: in one. It started getting crazy when they started coming
Speaker 2: in in March and going, Okay, how much of the
Speaker 2: winter beers do you want? How much of the Octoberfest
Speaker 2: beers that you want? And it's like some of it
Speaker 2: I understand because like at the time, like spotting or
Speaker 2: you were getting in like you know, stuff from Germany,
Speaker 2: true Octoberfest, Like okay, I get that, and the season
Speaker 2: really is September over there anyway, I get it. But
Speaker 2: like the pumpkin stuff started to become ridiculous because there's
Speaker 2: just all these people drinking pumpkin and I don't get
Speaker 2: it because like the apple Chris macchiato gimmick, far better
Speaker 2: than the pumpkin spice latte gimmick. I'm telling you. Do
Speaker 2: you have an opinion on this? You should?
Speaker 3: I like, I like a nice hot toddy every once
Speaker 3: in a while would really be my.
Speaker 2: You don't drink the beer?
Speaker 3: Do you know what I used to do in my
Speaker 3: hipster days? But I mean, come on, I grew up
Speaker 3: like those are honestly all beer, I'll be let's be realistic.
Speaker 3: I drink beer for the effect, not for the taste.
Speaker 2: Right if you drink it for the taste, like drinking
Speaker 2: run like a black chocolate's stout or something with like
Speaker 2: kumpus or something. No, oh, man Brooklyn, give.
Speaker 3: Me the dankest ipa, no demand, punish me with the
Speaker 3: quadruple hops. Yeah, load me up.
Speaker 2: You know after that, though, do you have to like
Speaker 2: break out the ice wine or do you go? Did
Speaker 2: you go full hipster and like drink cider afterwards? So
Speaker 2: like wash out your palate by drinking a bunch of
Speaker 2: loaded downsiders, some mead, some honey need.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll tell you what. I'll tell you what I
Speaker 3: wasn't drinking What's that was those non alcoholic beers like
Speaker 3: John Moxley does, probably before he went out there beat
Speaker 3: up commander.
Speaker 2: Oh god, hold on, because I got to open up
Speaker 2: this and it's not a beer, but it's for all
Speaker 2: the SMR kids and a piss Brian off if he
Speaker 2: stolen the chat. Yep, there you go, cracked open the
Speaker 2: Red Bulls right there.
Speaker 3: But we could pretend that's one of those athletic brewing.
Speaker 2: I hated non alcoholic. The only non alcoholic beer I
Speaker 2: ever tried that I liked was Saint Paul Girl in
Speaker 2: a And I didn't even like that one, like I mean,
Speaker 2: I just because it was the same thing. It's like,
Speaker 2: there's nothing good about these beers. And like you really
Speaker 2: when you drink cheap beer like natural Light, if you
Speaker 2: were on the Natural Light drinking team, like filthy Tom
Speaker 2: Lawler was number double zero coming off the bench, like
Speaker 2: it is about the effect I mean natural ice. That's
Speaker 2: why the whole reason they created that.
Speaker 3: I was more, Uh, I was more of a red
Speaker 3: Dog guy, oh man, like I was. I was doing
Speaker 3: my own white boy challenge at the hands at the
Speaker 3: hands of Red Dog while Red Dog Rodney Mack was
Speaker 3: doing it in WWE.
Speaker 2: White Boy Malt Liquor, the official White Boy Malt liquor, Mickey's.
Speaker 3: Mickey's Ice used to sponsor the UFC. Yes, I yes,
Speaker 3: remember that.
Speaker 2: With your stinger caps, that that was one of their
Speaker 2: early sponsors, that the would be all over the mat
Speaker 2: everywhere before they Miller bumped them up a little bit
Speaker 2: and actually allowed him to to talk about the main
Speaker 2: you know, main premium beers. But people are gonna begin
Speaker 2: to see a bunch of stuff in the chat here though,
Speaker 2: I gotta be honest. Was it red Birdie here, Bad Birdie?
Speaker 2: Newcastle brown Ale? If you get a fresh Newcastle brown Ale, delicious?
Speaker 2: Love it, absolutely love Newcastle when it was fresh. I
Speaker 2: don't know since heiny Kin took it over and all that,
Speaker 2: I have no idea. But none of this has anything
Speaker 2: to do with professional wrestling, which is something that you
Speaker 2: would expect if Brian wasn't here in Filthy Tom and
Speaker 2: I were doing this show. But there is some professional
Speaker 2: wrestling to get into, including yes, I see.
Speaker 3: I tried, you tried what I tried to get into
Speaker 3: aw Dynamite with the John Boxley segue to the non
Speaker 3: alcoholic beer I.
Speaker 2: Had to match about the non alcoholic beer. Though.
Speaker 3: First, I'm sorry, but sorry, this is like like Wrestling
Speaker 3: Observer Radio, San Jose Steamroller on the other end, just
Speaker 3: running over Brian here.
Speaker 2: Hello, is anybody there? There's an empty chair. It's only
Speaker 2: if you listen to Restling Observer Radio this morning that
Speaker 2: would be funny to you. But look, we have to
Speaker 2: start this show. We can't start it with John Moxley.
Speaker 2: We have got to start it with cmpunk. There is
Speaker 2: really no news on Zmpunk other than he was given
Speaker 2: the Iron Mike Mazurki Award last night by the Califlower
Speaker 2: Alley Club. It is the Califlower Alley Club's highest honor,
Speaker 2: named after its president and originally in the original president
Speaker 2: and founder of the group. It was presented to him
Speaker 2: by no surprise A Steele, who said of him, quote,
Speaker 2: he has never changed, no matter what anybody says about him.
Speaker 2: He hasn't because he doesn't put up with stuff. We'll
Speaker 2: say stuff, That's what we'll say. And really, as vulgar
Speaker 2: as you may have thought, that is coming out of
Speaker 2: a steel Apparently that was nothing like what the Nasty
Speaker 2: Boys did when they were giving the Tag Team Award
Speaker 2: the night before. But we'll hold that for another time.
Speaker 2: Punk apparently tried to center the speech not on himself
Speaker 2: but by those who influenced and elevated him. He said, quote,
Speaker 2: when people tell me they don't like me, or that
Speaker 2: the Internet is mad at me, I just chuckle because
Speaker 2: Roddy Piper liked me, Dusty Rhodes like me, and Harley
Speaker 2: Rice liked me. And that means more than anything else
Speaker 2: in the world, because these legends put their stamp on
Speaker 2: me before anyone else did. He gave me the confidence
Speaker 2: and gave me the ability to succeed. And quote, he
Speaker 2: did talk about the timeline of his career and stopped
Speaker 2: before he got to a w so he never mentioned
Speaker 2: aw did not mention the promotion at all. So there's
Speaker 2: your CM punk news bit for the today, for those
Speaker 2: who need it. I was wondering if you wanted to
Speaker 2: throw anything in on that. I didn't really leave you
Speaker 2: anything to grab onto, but.
Speaker 3: You know, congratulations to see him Punk for getting the
Speaker 3: Iron Mike Mazurki Award.
Speaker 2: Have you ever been to any of those caacs or
Speaker 2: any of those types of wrestler conventions get togethers?
Speaker 3: I have. I have been to the calif Ali Club
Speaker 3: a number of times. I was a witness to Wrestling
Speaker 3: Observer dot COM's very owned Dave Meltzer getting an award there,
Speaker 3: and I've been to other years. I don't remember who
Speaker 3: got what or.
Speaker 2: Ray Mysterio was there last night. Actually presented the Lucha
Speaker 2: Libre Award to Damien six six six, who's been around
Speaker 2: for a long time. Coco b Ware given the Men's
Speaker 2: Wrestling Award by Jimmy Hart. Two new awards actually for
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four which are interesting. The Jim Ross Announcer Award,
Speaker 2: which should get a lot of people that we I'm
Speaker 2: sure you know. Again, I don't know who's all of
Speaker 2: whom's in and who is not, but that is gonna
Speaker 2: be kind of nice to focus on again to some
Speaker 2: of your most important people, the announcer who's supposed to
Speaker 2: sell and get everything through, as well as the Kawro
Speaker 2: lawer Carl Lauer excuse me, Independent Promoter Awards, so that
Speaker 2: that's kind of cool. Califlower Alley Club, for those who
Speaker 2: don't know, raises money and will will give assistance to
Speaker 2: wrestlers in need. They donated about sixty one thousand dollars
Speaker 2: last year. They said to different wrestlers out there Califlower
Speaker 2: Alleyclub dot org. You can become a member there for
Speaker 2: a year, you can become a lifetime member, so you
Speaker 2: can go there check that out our own. Jim Valley
Speaker 2: has been very involved with the Califlower Alley Club over
Speaker 2: the last couple of years. But Tom aw Dynamite last night,
Speaker 2: I said at the beginning of the show, we were
Speaker 2: going to have spoilers because it is really kind of
Speaker 2: hard to talk about the plates they set up for
Speaker 2: both Saturday and this Sunday at the pay per view
Speaker 2: without giving these spoilers. So here you go, folks. For
Speaker 2: everybody that does not want to hear them, go ahead
Speaker 2: and just jump off the show now if you want.
Speaker 2: But here are the spoilers for Rampage that were taped
Speaker 2: last night after Dynamite. Okay, Willow Nightingale and Skyblue defeated
Speaker 2: at a Jay and Ty Ofvlgyri, Hangman Page defeated Brian Keith, Eo,
Speaker 2: Delviking Goo and Wayne defeated Kept Saving and Gringo Loco.
Speaker 2: Nice to see Gringo Loco actually make an aw appearance,
Speaker 2: and the Dark Orders, John Silver and Alex Reynolds won
Speaker 2: a Battle Royal to earn an ROH World Tag Team
Speaker 2: title shot at All Out against new champions MJF and
Speaker 2: Adam Cole. Now, the teams that were involved in this
Speaker 2: tournament Ossie Open, which were probably the favorites coming in
Speaker 2: best Friends, Action Andretti and Darius Martin, Ryan Nemeth and
Speaker 2: Peter Avalon, the Righteous Men, Jeff Hardy, the Gates of Agony,
Speaker 2: Butcher and Blade, and the Outrunners. Did that result when
Speaker 2: you heard it surprise you that it was going to
Speaker 2: be the Dark Order going up against MJF and Cole
Speaker 2: at the pay per view?
Speaker 3: I thought there were very limited amount of teams that
Speaker 3: could win that. I thought it was too quick for
Speaker 3: the Ossie Open rematch. I thought, you know what, now
Speaker 3: is probably a good time for the best Friends to
Speaker 3: win this, get a little bit of credibility back, I guess,
Speaker 3: although they would just I guess they just won the
Speaker 3: pay per view, but you know, give them a little
Speaker 3: bit of shine. I thought, maybe maybe the Hardys we'll
Speaker 3: get the win. Maybe MJF and Adam Cole really want
Speaker 3: to face the Hardies together, but the Dark Orders slip
Speaker 3: through the cracks. I guess you could say I didn't
Speaker 3: expect them to win but it really doesn't matter who
Speaker 3: won that battle Royal because it's not about beating MJF
Speaker 3: and Adam Cole. That's not gonna happen. They're just gonna
Speaker 3: face him.
Speaker 2: I wonder how Evil Uno feels about Hangman or not
Speaker 2: Hangman out in page we know what he feels about him.
Speaker 2: BWI feels about Adam Cole turning his back on Roderick
Speaker 2: Strong and being more worried about m j F. Smith.
Speaker 2: I bet you we'll have a promo by him leading
Speaker 2: up to the show. We better lead up to a
Speaker 2: commercial right now. I done ran out of word. See
Speaker 2: right there, right there. One you can put on the
Speaker 2: over undercount, Mike supper VV, Filthy Tom Lawler, Wrestling Observer
Speaker 2: Live back on the show, Mike SEPPERVV and Filthy Tom
Speaker 2: Lawler here with you. Listen to that. The WWE Wrestling
Speaker 2: Challenge music bringing us in or it's just superstars, doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: I'm sure Bobby the Brain, Heenan and Gorilla Monsoon right here.
Speaker 2: I'm a pressing observer live. No, yeah, probably probably what
Speaker 2: I don't dunk in here. He made me think it
Speaker 2: was Brian there for a second. Dom, How dare you
Speaker 2: I sound nowhere near as congested as he does. That's true,
Speaker 2: that's true. We just had a sample run in from
Speaker 2: the boss Man, and I don't know if he's built
Speaker 2: for public consumption right now. Tom, What do you think he.
Speaker 3: Did say to let everybody know that he is alive
Speaker 3: so we can we can rejoice in that.
Speaker 2: But that's true.
Speaker 3: He didn't sound too good.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, he did not, you know, although you
Speaker 2: know we're talking about it, like him suffering, you know,
Speaker 2: not being able to see his family. How do you
Speaker 2: think his poor wife feels right now with those two kids.
Speaker 2: She's dying to probably get rid of those kids. You
Speaker 2: love your kids, but like they'll work your nerves after
Speaker 2: a while, especially two little ones like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but she got rid of the biggest one. That's
Speaker 3: interesting to deal with him, so.
Speaker 2: Be the albatross child that is Brian Alvarez. But ae W.
Speaker 2: Dynamite was last night from the Now Arena in Hoffman,
Speaker 2: the State's Illinois, Greater Chicago, Illinois. I know something about that.
Speaker 2: I was born in Arlington Knights, lived in Palatine, and
Speaker 2: a rich Chicago original, not as moody as some Chicago originals,
Speaker 2: but I kind of see where he gets it. I
Speaker 2: don't know why this good.
Speaker 3: Did Grandy had the Granddaddy had the golden flask, He's
Speaker 3: stroke every day or what.
Speaker 2: I don't know why this show wasn't in Milwaukee. I
Speaker 2: gotta be honest. They were not. Ton of people there
Speaker 2: are on Adam Summers of the Big Audio Nightmare. You
Speaker 2: can find an fw online dot Com was there. It
Speaker 2: was a very small crowd, which is not a surprise
Speaker 2: because they were really asking a lot. They are asking
Speaker 2: a lot out of people over the next couple of
Speaker 2: days here. Obviously the pay per view coming up on Sunday.
Speaker 2: You have a live collision on Saturday inside the All
Speaker 2: State Arena as well, and you know, I don't know
Speaker 2: how much. Obviously people on this show probably pay more
Speaker 2: attention to it than others. But this past Monday's raw
Speaker 2: was at the Now Arena in Chicago, so they seemed
Speaker 2: to be tapping that market dry to me, I know,
Speaker 2: from an indie's point of view, aaw is running tonight
Speaker 2: and it's to me, it's gotta be tough. Impact seems
Speaker 2: to be there a lot more often now. Tom. I'm
Speaker 2: just you know, your thoughts on running a city that
Speaker 2: often because it seems like every time you look up,
Speaker 2: with the exception of New Japan Pro Wrestling, who apparently
Speaker 2: can't find a suitable venue in the city of Chicago,
Speaker 2: everybody is running the hell out of that city.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and if you remember, not too far back, I
Speaker 3: actually did a run in and beat up old Adam Cole,
Speaker 3: who couldn't keep a promise then, can't keep a promise now,
Speaker 3: can't keep a promise in the future. But I did
Speaker 3: a run in and beat up Adam Cole at the
Speaker 3: end of June in Chicago during the Forbidden Door festivities,
Speaker 3: So that was what two months ago. Yeah, and they're
Speaker 3: back in the market. Impact runs there aaw you mentioned
Speaker 3: Freelance Wrestling runs a lot there. Black Label Pro is
Speaker 3: now running there as well as Indiana.
Speaker 2: So yeah, Hammond, Indiana. If anybody ever hears it, might
Speaker 2: as well be Chicago, Illinois.
Speaker 3: MLW was you know in the past he'd run Cicero
Speaker 3: pretty frequently, although I don't know if they've done that
Speaker 3: since the end of the pandemic. And there's a good
Speaker 3: number of Lucha libre shows that go on in the
Speaker 3: Chicago area if I'm not mistaken, So this isn't like
Speaker 3: an area that's starving necessarily for wrestling, And you know,
Speaker 3: I think going to Milwaukee, going to maybe they don't
Speaker 3: want to deal with the commissions in Missouri, but going
Speaker 3: to Milwaukee, going to some of these other areas that
Speaker 3: are also you know, in the Midwest, would benefit them
Speaker 3: a lot, maybe just if nothing more to spanned the
Speaker 3: customer base.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I found a place like Milwaukee would be
Speaker 2: good because it is close enough to Chicago where you
Speaker 2: can consider it not the same market, but the same
Speaker 2: market kind of regionally, but it would be far enough
Speaker 2: away where it would give somewhat of a break to
Speaker 2: the Chicago fans who could choose. Okay, maybe I'll get
Speaker 2: a ticket if I can afford to do and I
Speaker 2: have the time to go travel there, as well as
Speaker 2: tapping people from Milwaukee and people from you know, the
Speaker 2: that part of Wisconsin, and maybe trying to bait people
Speaker 2: from Canada to come down. But obviously they didn't go
Speaker 2: in that direction. They had to go in a lot
Speaker 2: of different directions. Last night, unfortunately, because of illness and
Speaker 2: travel issues, Hurricane Idalia caused Kenny Omega to miss the
Speaker 2: show because he was not able to get a flight
Speaker 2: out of Florida and for anybody that wants to break
Speaker 2: nasty on anything like that. I mean, these guys got
Speaker 2: back into town on Monday, many of them, and then
Speaker 2: had to turn around and leave on Tuesday. They didn't
Speaker 2: have a chance to change their flights in many cases. Unfortunately,
Speaker 2: in the case of Soireya and Swerve Strickland, they are ill.
Speaker 2: How ill are they? We don't know. We do have
Speaker 2: an announced match for Collision that features the Outsiders against
Speaker 2: Britt Baker, Karusheta and Chris Statlander. But look right, yeah,
Speaker 2: well the the outside What did I say, the Outsiders?
Speaker 3: Yeah, hey, listen, if it's the Outsiders against those three,
Speaker 3: that's one hell of a matchup.
Speaker 2: Well, look, Kevin Nash, they may have to put him
Speaker 2: in place of Sorea, because let's be honest. I mean,
Speaker 2: we see how snotty you know her, and how snotty
Speaker 2: Brian is right now, we know what he's suffering through.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's just a minor thing, but you know, is
Speaker 2: she going to be okay to go on Saturday, let
Speaker 2: alone on Sunday? If they want to add a match
Speaker 2: between her and Britt Baker?
Speaker 3: Is that an official statement by you? You're expecting Kevin Nash.
Speaker 2: No, I would, I would allowed there. I don't know
Speaker 2: he had.
Speaker 3: He had some choice words for cmpunk back in the day.
Speaker 3: Well that's all right.
Speaker 2: Maybe they could share an ice cream bar and just
Speaker 2: like talk things out or something like that.
Speaker 3: You know maybe, well, yeah, I don't know that they
Speaker 3: really had an issue. Well, it's just the promos on screen.
Speaker 2: That's just hip hop stuff. Is that what it is?
Speaker 2: Hip hop? But everything's goods just working here. Hey, John
Speaker 2: Moxley had to work last night, he had to open
Speaker 2: the show. I don't know if he was supposed to
Speaker 2: take time off or not.
Speaker 3: But this guy ever gonna get a vacation. It's been
Speaker 3: over a year now.
Speaker 2: I don't feel bad gotten that vacation. Well, he had
Speaker 2: a self inflicted vacation that he put himself on. He's
Speaker 2: had that. Poor Renee, that's the one I feel bad about.
Speaker 2: She's out there. She was on thirty seven segments on
Speaker 2: last week's show. That woman is everywhere. She needs some
Speaker 2: time off. Forget about his vacation, what about hers?
Speaker 3: She got two shoes launched at her by Tony Storm.
Speaker 3: She's just trying to do her job. She was an
Speaker 3: innocent bystander interviewing Tony Storm, who, by the way, might
Speaker 3: be the best character in professional wrestling right now, and
Speaker 3: he's just off the charts amazing in this movie starlet, yes,
Speaker 3: her studio disgrace, a disgraced starlet role. She is just awesome.
Speaker 3: She can't trust the other outcast, she can't trust her
Speaker 3: own shoes. No, so she launched him at who was
Speaker 3: just perplexed the entire time.
Speaker 2: Who's ddp's daughter's name, Lexi? The gimmick where she old
Speaker 2: appears to I believe something like that, where she where
Speaker 2: she and she has no idea who she is from
Speaker 2: week to week she thinks she's a new person trying
Speaker 2: to interview her, and it will always end with a
Speaker 2: shoe being thrown in her head. It is fantastic. I
Speaker 2: don't know if the genesis of this was from Tony
Speaker 2: Storm getting the role of June Buyers for the Mildred
Speaker 2: Burke movie that's going to be coming out, but like
Speaker 2: whoever had the idea, whosever it was the genesis of it.
Speaker 2: It was brilliant because she really does look the part
Speaker 2: with the blonde hair that's done up like that, and
Speaker 2: she can pull off again this whole routine of being
Speaker 2: this again on her way out, or you know, disgrace
Speaker 2: like you said, you know studio movie star from the
Speaker 2: olden days.
Speaker 3: Can you imagine what the house must be like if
Speaker 3: her and Juice Robinson are going over their promos together.
Speaker 3: Let me be absolute insanity.
Speaker 2: It's it's I used to wonder about that when he
Speaker 2: came to their squatting routines, because they both have some
Speaker 2: of the most impressive thighs. He's got to balance it
Speaker 2: for the men and the women. Here an incredible set
Speaker 2: of thighs on both of those people. If you had
Speaker 2: to put money on a future's bet, we're doing a
Speaker 2: Loin fruit futures bet here. Okay, keeping with the theme
Speaker 2: of how I started this show.
Speaker 3: Is it at Circa or South Point?
Speaker 2: MGM? You get this? We get this at the MGM. Okay,
Speaker 2: you you can either choose between Charlotte and Andrade, Juice Robinson
Speaker 2: and Tony Storm, or let's see who would be another
Speaker 2: perfect isn't.
Speaker 3: It are Charlotte Andrade together?
Speaker 2: Yes? Oh you did not know? If this no all right?
Speaker 2: Those two were seth Rollins and Becky Lynch. You gotta
Speaker 2: pick Loin for the future who's going to be the
Speaker 2: best athlete out of those three.
Speaker 3: Oh, it's easy. I think it's Tony Storm and Juice.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm thinking. That's what I'm thinking.
Speaker 3: That's a pretty damn good athlete.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, it look Becky Lynch, I mean, overcoming what
Speaker 2: she's gone through in her career. I remember she was
Speaker 2: not going to be able to wrestle again years ago.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Tony Storm as the most violent move in professional wrestling,
Speaker 3: where she runs full speed and throws her butt into
Speaker 3: her opponent's face. So to develop that sort of acceleration
Speaker 3: and to be able to throw herself her hips with
Speaker 3: such force, She's a great athlete in my estimation.
Speaker 2: Got that first step quickness, take you out of the box.
Speaker 2: If you try to drive down the lane, it's like
Speaker 2: muscle fibers. Tony Storm's interview was great. John Moxley defeated Commander.
Speaker 2: He said at that at the beginning, than Chris Jericho,
Speaker 2: Sammy Guevara went face to face. They got very very
Speaker 2: tippy with each other. Hard to believe that it's not
Speaker 2: going to end with the two of them going at it.
Speaker 2: At some point they decided to end the segment without
Speaker 2: any violence or anything like that. We then got Eddie
Speaker 2: Kingston defeating Wheeler Yuda to retain the NJPW Strong open
Speaker 2: Weight Championship, a title that does not looked good on
Speaker 2: anybody since Filthy lost it. We then got story time
Speaker 2: with Adam Cole where he was interrupted by Roderick Strong
Speaker 2: and his neck brace and the Kingdom who all ran
Speaker 2: down on Adam Cole talking bad about him, bringing up
Speaker 2: stuff from the Rohds and talking about how he banded them,
Speaker 2: and then said Roderick Strong was being selfish, talked about
Speaker 2: Mjf's neck, and Roddy got all freaked out and was
Speaker 2: really upset with Adam taking more care about somebody else's
Speaker 2: neck than his own. But look, I'm sorry this still
Speaker 2: feels like to me, even though I think last night
Speaker 2: was more proof that Roddy Strong should not be holding
Speaker 2: a microphone for an extended period of time. Keep Cole
Speaker 2: and mj up on the baby face side, find a
Speaker 2: talk or find somebody and put them with that group
Speaker 2: with Tavan and Bennett, who I was surprised were not
Speaker 2: involved in the Battle Royal last night. And I wonder
Speaker 2: speculating if that's going to be a thing.
Speaker 3: You would think it has to lead to Tavian and
Speaker 3: Bennett against MJF and Adam Cole and probably being the
Speaker 3: ones to defeat them. I would imagine at this point
Speaker 3: for those belts, although maybe they just get defeated. Maybe
Speaker 3: Roger Strong gets wasted by somebody during this tournament and
Speaker 3: we get no resolution to it all. But I would
Speaker 3: imagine that we're heading towards at least a few defront
Speaker 3: a pay per view in the lead up to one
Speaker 3: with All well with all five of these guys.
Speaker 2: DJ Convoy in the chat Roddy, I've gone from hating
Speaker 2: Roddy's high school acting to loving it with a goofball.
Speaker 2: The charm in it is he can't act, and I
Speaker 2: think he knows he can't act. You know, he's trying
Speaker 2: his best, but there's a there is an amusement in it.
Speaker 2: The show did ultimately end with Orange Cassidy defeating Penta
Speaker 2: El Zero Miato in a ruckus Leyton brawl of a
Speaker 2: match in which Cassidy had to pull out a miracle
Speaker 2: once again to survive. After getting beaten down by Penta,
Speaker 2: he was then able to roll him up with a
Speaker 2: quick crucifix and get the victory and then cut a
Speaker 2: pretty damn impressive promo for Orange Cassidy to close the show.
Speaker 2: Get Tom's thoughts on that as we close our own
Speaker 2: show coming back from break Wrestling Observer Alive. Hey, there's
Speaker 2: that old WWF Superstars of Wrestling music Jesse the Bobby
Speaker 2: Ventre here with Vincent Fan No Bruno san Martino with
Speaker 2: a head piece on one of the worst wigs of
Speaker 2: all time. Bruno san Martino's had to be. But that
Speaker 2: doesn't matter because he is a legend, the same way
Speaker 2: our fen filthy Tom Lawler is a legend for jumping
Speaker 2: on this show and saving it today, the same way
Speaker 2: that Orange Cassidy had to help save the show yesterday
Speaker 2: and cuts a pretty impassioned promo to end the show.
Speaker 2: I was surprised by that. I thought it was going
Speaker 2: to be a short one. No, he actually sat down
Speaker 2: in the ring cut one hell of a promo. I
Speaker 2: think for those people that don't like him, it did
Speaker 2: nothing to make them like him. They'll say, I don't
Speaker 2: care about this match whatever. I think for AW fans,
Speaker 2: and I think for average people maybe just tuning in
Speaker 2: average wrestling fans, I don't know. I think it probably
Speaker 2: worked for them pretty damn well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought his promo was great. I believe we
Speaker 3: got the birth of a catchphrase for Orange Cassidy when
Speaker 3: he said, I'm Orange Cassidy and I do not have
Speaker 3: a catchphrase, which was about the most clever catchphrase he
Speaker 3: could come up with.
Speaker 2: That's the best one, since no gimmicks needed.
Speaker 3: Chris Candido and this is a This story, or the
Speaker 3: culmination of this story has been a long time coming.
Speaker 3: They've been setting up. As Tony kan actually said at
Speaker 3: his press conference call, he's wanted this match for over
Speaker 3: three years, and they have taken the time and given
Speaker 3: Orange Cassidy the time with this title. They've given the
Speaker 3: ball for him to run with, and he's knocked it
Speaker 3: out of the park. He's gonna do it again on Sunday,
Speaker 3: much like we did today, Right, Mike.
Speaker 2: Damn right, filthy Tom Lawler, a fine job. Thank you
Speaker 2: for joining me on short notice. I don't know if
Speaker 2: the boss Man will be back tomorrow. If not, I
Speaker 2: have a feeling maybe my and maybe maybe Landstorm. We'll
Speaker 2: see what happens there. Oh, by the way, for all
Speaker 2: the information, what's been taking place during that Tony Khan
Speaker 2: presser go to the front page of Wrestlingobserver dot com
Speaker 2: or Josh Nason has got it all posted up there
Speaker 2: for you. I want to thank producer who's working the
Speaker 2: video today. I can't remember look for everybody here. Thank
Speaker 2: you and we shall talk to you again after a while.
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