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Speaker 1: Remember back in January when Kevin McCarthy was running for

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Speaker 2: You know, my father always told me, it's not how

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Speaker 2: you start, it's how you finish, and now we need

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Speaker 1: Each time he fell short, McCarthy bargained more and more

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Speaker 1: away to a small but vocal minority led by the

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Speaker 1: House Freedom Caucus. These members are the furthest to the

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Speaker 1: right on social issues and government spending. They held McCarthy's

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Speaker 1: speakership in their hands until he agreed to their concessions.

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Speaker 3: Those of us who will not be voting for Kevin

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Speaker 3: McCarthy today take no joy in this discomfort that this

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Speaker 3: moment has brought. But if you want to drain the swamp,

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Speaker 3: you cannot put the biggest alligator in charge of the exercise.

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Speaker 1: Now McCarthy's deal making has come back to bite him,

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Speaker 1: and conservatives in the Freedom Caucus are creating headaches for

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Speaker 1: both Republican moderates and Speaker McCarthy. I'm Craig Gordon in

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Speaker 1: for West Ksova today on the big take who really

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Speaker 1: controls the House of Representatives, Kevin McCarthy or the Freedom

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Speaker 1: Caucus to give us more detail on just what's happening

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Speaker 1: within the House GOP factions. I'm joined by Bloomberg's Congressional

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Speaker 1: editor Megan Scully and House reporter Billy House. Megan, give

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Speaker 1: me the big picture here, who are the key Republican

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Speaker 1: players in the House digging in on the Freedom Caucus side,

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Speaker 4: McCarthy is getting it from both sides of his party,

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Speaker 4: but as Billy has said recently, the House Freedom Caucus,

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Speaker 4: which once worked as a forty vote block all in lockstep,

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Speaker 4: now really has become more of a fractured entity where

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Speaker 4: there's about ten who are fighting back against McCarthy and

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Speaker 4: those who voted against his speakership all of those rounds

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Speaker 4: back in January. But that's enough votes to really wreak

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Speaker 4: havoc in House majority where McCarthy only enjoys really a

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Speaker 4: five seat advantage over Democrats, but he also has an

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Speaker 4: addition to the Freedom Caucus, he has these more pragmatic

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Speaker 4: that they're having to take on abortion and other social

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Speaker 4: issues that the House Freedom Caucus is really forcing their

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Speaker 4: hands on. So far, they haven't fought back, but we

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Speaker 4: could see that change the closer we get to the election.

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Speaker 1: Billy, from John Bainner to Paul Ryan. We have certainly

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Speaker 1: seen descent in the ranks among GOP factions in the past,

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Speaker 1: but it feels like this is reaching a different level

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Speaker 1: of acrimony. Put this in perspective for us. You know

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Speaker 1: how much trouble is Kevin McCarthy in right now.

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Speaker 5: The Freedom Caucus actually emerged around late twenty fourteen twenty

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Speaker 5: fifteen as a response to what they believed then Speaker

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Speaker 5: Bayner's harsh treatment of some of the right wing members,

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Speaker 5: trying to remove them from committees, also his manipulation of

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Speaker 5: what was then the conservative group that was most prominent,

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Speaker 5: the Republican Study Committee. They felt he was talking moderates

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Speaker 5: into joining that group and distorting their elections. About thirty members,

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Speaker 5: led by Mark Meadows, Mick Mulvaaney, both who ended up

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Speaker 5: broke away and started their own group, and they created

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Speaker 5: a lot of mischief for John Bayner, including Meadows filed

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Speaker 5: ay and what has now been known as a motion

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Speaker 5: but they created havoc with some votes for Bayner, so

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Speaker 6: It's become clear to me that this prolonged leadership turmoil

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Speaker 6: I informed my colleagues that I would resign from the

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Speaker 5: The next Speaker, Paul Ryan, who had been a vice

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Speaker 5: seemed almost immediately that Ryan hated the job. He felt

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Speaker 5: diminished by having to placate this group at thirty and

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Speaker 5: he never had a happy relationship with them. They blocked

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Speaker 5: even his attempt to undo Obamacare, and they also at

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Speaker 5: the time were fighting with Trump. But there came a

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Speaker 5: of these Meadows and others Freedom Caucus members were some

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Speaker 5: This new group is different. Some of the original members

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Speaker 5: so that's what they've been doing so far. They haven't

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Speaker 1: So, Billy, you talk about the difficulties that Kevin McCarthy faces, Now,

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Speaker 1: how much of this including on the dead ceiling. Did

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Speaker 1: you know? Maybe he won the battle, but he's about

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Speaker 5: It's kind of gravy for Kevin McCarthy, who tried to

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Speaker 5: be speaker once before. And was blocked, and then he

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Speaker 5: to make a lot of promises and he became speaker barely,

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Speaker 5: and he loves it. He spends the day walking around

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Speaker 5: you know, he's achieved what he wanted to be he's

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Speaker 5: a speaker now. On a different level, sure, he's a

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Speaker 5: certainly true, and he's fought very hard to do so.

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Speaker 5: He brags that he's one that the media wakes up

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Speaker 5: he can't meet, and he's met everyone so far. That's

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Speaker 5: absolutely true. To achieve the agreement with Biden on the

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Speaker 5: Then he had to make promises to get a rule

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Speaker 5: up on these spending bills. So on one hand, yeah,

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Speaker 1: So, Billy, you talked about the whole pile of promises

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Speaker 5: Well, even the spending level on the depsit Reduction bill,

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Speaker 5: don't believe are doable. He's promised to go through certain

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Speaker 5: procedures that involve a House Freedom Caucus members sitting on

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Speaker 5: placed Marjorie Taylor Green in fact, on a conference committee

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Speaker 1: Didn't he also essentially give them an easier way to

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Speaker 5: Down the road, was that motion to vacate that? Nancy

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Speaker 5: She changed it back to five members now. McCarthy, in

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Speaker 5: The thing is, that's a promise that they haven't seized

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Speaker 1: We're not at that point.

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Speaker 5: They seem to be getting more of what they want

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Speaker 1: When we come back, we dive into the issues dividing

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Speaker 1: very specific issues at play here, a lot of which

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Speaker 1: But all of a sudden, House Republicans are proposing a

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Speaker 4: So what we saw in the deal between McCarthy and

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Speaker 4: for two years was an agreement to cut some spending,

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Speaker 4: now there's concern among this group of hardliners that not

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Speaker 4: only did the bill not meet their expectations, but that

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Speaker 4: It gets into the whole everything is pork right unless

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Speaker 1: Are there any signature projects that have become sort of

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Speaker 5: Not all the twelve annual spending bills have even been

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Speaker 5: the deficit reduction deal between McCarthy and the president capped

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Speaker 5: the spending at about one point five trillion, and the

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Speaker 5: Freedom Caucus and some other conservatives want to go below that,

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Speaker 5: be fighting on that level, just the overall spending levels,

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Speaker 5: but also on all these individual programs that they don't like.

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Speaker 4: And what we're seeing a little bit is McCarthy dipping

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Speaker 4: usually get broad bipartisan support, such as military construction and

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Speaker 4: The big ones that we expect probably after the August

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Speaker 4: we see conservatives really wanting to make deep cuts, and

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Speaker 4: also to education programs as well.

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Speaker 1: Megan, We've talked a lot about domestic issues here, but

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Speaker 1: certainly there's a very big foreign policy is you that's

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Speaker 1: also kind of roiling the House Republican caucus, and that

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Speaker 1: is the funding for the war in Ukraine. There's a

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Speaker 4: So right now, due to abortion restrictions throughout the country,

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Speaker 1: Billy, we've talked a lot about the twenty twenty four election.

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