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Speaker 3: I'm a homegrew that knows a little bit about everything
Speaker 3: and everybody I know.
Speaker 1: If you don't lie about that, right, Lauren can't even.
Speaker 1: All right, y'all, I am in here. Taylor is here.
Speaker 3: Taylor made it the producer of the Latest with Laura
Speaker 3: La Rosa.
Speaker 1: The podcast.
Speaker 3: This is my first time filming the podcast from the
Speaker 3: iHeart and Breakfast Club studios because I got a lot
Speaker 3: going on today. I'm gonna be a bet shooting the
Speaker 3: BT Talk show that I do what you guys can
Speaker 3: find on YouTube and it will soume be on BT Plus,
Speaker 3: and then I have a red carpet event and then
Speaker 3: I'm outside tonight for a friend's birthday. So I need
Speaker 3: to get this in when I can get it, and
Speaker 3: we're gonna do the video, but the video will be
Speaker 3: a bit different than this. But y'all are in the
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Speaker 3: watched my video upload on Lauren La rose A TV
Speaker 3: or the Black Effect YouTube channel, you probably realized that
Speaker 3: I gave y'all little video, but the full episodes only
Speaker 3: happen over here on the audio side. So stick with me,
Speaker 3: share this, tell a friend, and tell a friend. Bring
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Speaker 3: y'all know I'm the homegirl that knows a little bit
Speaker 3: about every everything and everybody. But we got to talk
Speaker 3: about me right now, because let me tell y'all, Miss
Speaker 3: Carry Hilstaid, Miss Carry Baby Dang, I.
Speaker 1: Still tell her what you loving at? I still can sing.
Speaker 3: I got a Billboard recognized hit, The Job Is Mine
Speaker 3: by Branica.
Speaker 1: You know Billboard covered that. No, that's Billboard cover.
Speaker 3: We didn't make the chart or nothing like relax, but
Speaker 3: Billboard did talk about it. I said recognize. I ain't
Speaker 3: say charting, okay, but yeah. So Carry Holston was here
Speaker 3: at the Breakfast Club and we talked to her about
Speaker 3: a bunch of different things. But the biggest thing, of course,
Speaker 3: when talking about Carry Holston coming back to music after
Speaker 3: what like fourteen fifteen years her last drop was in
Speaker 3: twenty eleven, is the whole Beyonce debacle, the back and forth.
Speaker 3: So in context and a little bit of background for
Speaker 3: those who do not know Carry Holston, you know, I
Speaker 3: don't have to explain who Carry Hoilston is. She has
Speaker 3: major songs. She has written for major celebs as well.
Speaker 3: But she there was a song that leaked back in
Speaker 3: two thousand and nine. It was the Turning Me on
Speaker 3: record that Cary Hilson had moving at that point. It
Speaker 3: was a remix to that song. Now the song was leaked, right,
Speaker 3: so she had always carry Hilson, had always stood on Yo. I.
Speaker 3: You know the song was leaked. It wasn't something I
Speaker 3: was supposed to come out. And you know she had
Speaker 3: said that, you know, she there was no smoke with Beyonce,
Speaker 3: and I know she had talked about meeting Beyonce, and
Speaker 3: you know, they didn't really get to talk about it.
Speaker 3: They didn't talk about it, but Beyonce introduced herself. So
Speaker 3: of course when Beyonce beyonceild if I'm speaking Beyonce into
Speaker 3: my interview, existence, God, let me get that. And I
Speaker 3: want to mention in the song. We talked about some
Speaker 3: of the lyrics up here. There was a part of
Speaker 3: the song where she's like carry Hilton. The disc is
Speaker 3: like the woman she's referring to. She's talking about this
Speaker 3: woman needing to go have some babies. She's talking about
Speaker 3: the woman needs to move herself to the left. And
Speaker 3: this song was after Beyonce's irreplaceable to the left, to
Speaker 3: the left, so it was easy like, oh, that's what
Speaker 3: she's talking about. There were other parts of the song too,
Speaker 3: where other people had said that you know, they you know,
Speaker 3: said that there were other women in the industry at
Speaker 3: that time that Cary Hilson was referring to. But of course,
Speaker 3: y'all know how people don't play about b So she
Speaker 3: went through turbulence because of this. Now, moving this on forward,
Speaker 3: when Carry Hilson was here at the Breakfast Club, she
Speaker 3: told us this story about the song.
Speaker 4: I was young, I'm super young. I felt I had
Speaker 4: no power. I felt I had no choice. But I
Speaker 4: did record mine my version, which had nothing like that
Speaker 4: in it. It was on subject song is about men,
Speaker 4: and it leaked like days after I did it. But
Speaker 4: he promised me that wouldn't happen. So it leaked and
Speaker 4: that was that. And I protected him. I protected the
Speaker 4: girl that wrote it, who went on to become famous.
Speaker 4: I protected everyone in the story. So I had to
Speaker 4: eat that and I am still eating it to this day.
Speaker 4: But that is definitely a regret of not fighting even stronger.
Speaker 4: But I again, and to not stand up for my
Speaker 4: that was a shame that I wore. Was like I
Speaker 4: should have fallen.
Speaker 3: Now, when Carrie Holston decided in that interview that she
Speaker 3: was not going to reveal who the writer was, I googled, y'all,
Speaker 3: I'm sitting on I literally I didn't have my computer
Speaker 3: cars in the shop, computers in the car, but I'm
Speaker 3: on my phones and y'all will see me in that
Speaker 3: moment on my phone because I'm trying to look up, well,
Speaker 3: who was the writer on the song? And I don't
Speaker 3: know if because it was leaked and you know how
Speaker 3: it was placed where it was.
Speaker 1: Leaked, writing credits were prevalent or like what.
Speaker 3: I also went to Twitter as well, and in that moment,
Speaker 3: I didn't know who she was talking about, and then
Speaker 3: she said, I'm not going to reveal who the writer
Speaker 3: is because the writer is also a celebrity, and I
Speaker 3: don't Basically it was kind of given, like she didn't
Speaker 3: want to put her out there like that. But everything
Speaker 3: else that Carrie alleged, you know, with Polo to don
Speaker 3: and or not even just him, but like just execs
Speaker 3: or her leadership at the time forcing her to do something,
Speaker 3: you know, and hearing that story and I'm thinking, like,
Speaker 3: you know, this was years ago, she was a lot younger,
Speaker 3: she had such you know, massive, massive success at the time.
Speaker 1: I felt for her.
Speaker 3: I was like, yo, I can understand, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean, like, I don't think I would have done that,
Speaker 3: but I can understand being in that position and feeling
Speaker 3: like if I don't do this, everything I've worked for
Speaker 3: is gonna be in question. These are people with you know,
Speaker 3: power influence, say so I'm signed you know, to them,
Speaker 3: and you know the all those factors that come in.
Speaker 3: But baby, I'm trying to tell y'all, when we posted
Speaker 3: this clip online and then I took it over to Twitter,
Speaker 3: y'all ain't showing no grace whatsoever, not nar One, Baby
Speaker 3: Grace so live here anymore, not Narra One. The way
Speaker 3: that she is being dragged on Twitter for telling her
Speaker 3: side of the story is insane. And a lot of
Speaker 3: people have pointed out, you know, in response to me
Speaker 3: taking the video to Twitter, older interviews that Cary Holston
Speaker 3: had done where she talked about the song was not
Speaker 3: leaked by Polar to down and you know that she
Speaker 3: wasn't forced to do the record, And I think y'all
Speaker 3: have to at least give her the grace of it.
Speaker 1: This is what she is now saying.
Speaker 3: She has the courage to come out and say because
Speaker 3: she's taken all of these years, over a decade off
Speaker 3: she's found peace of mind. She needs a little bit more,
Speaker 3: you know, confident, or a lot more confident in who
Speaker 3: she is and where her voice is. She's also now
Speaker 3: a independent artist, so can't nobody stop nothing or shut nothing,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. She's an independent artist now
Speaker 3: she can do and say certain things. It was different
Speaker 3: then they literally controlled her career to some extents, and
Speaker 3: I think it was different than too with like, you know,
Speaker 3: people believing certain things. I think if Cary Hilson had
Speaker 3: come out and said that she was actually forced to
Speaker 3: do this song when nobody had believed her, people would
Speaker 3: have been like, no, girl, that ain't true. You're just
Speaker 3: saying that because the Beyonce fans don't like it.
Speaker 1: That ain't true. Didn't happen.
Speaker 3: And then y'all got on my body because I said
Speaker 3: I said it in the interview, and I also said
Speaker 3: on Twitter that this was the first time that I'd
Speaker 3: heard carry Hilston talk about this in detail as far
Speaker 3: as being forced in things of that nature. I think
Speaker 3: someone put up an interview from about like five years ago.
Speaker 3: But even in that interview, I feel like she was
Speaker 3: a lot more candid with us, and she said in
Speaker 3: our interview because I mentioned that in our interview, like, hey,
Speaker 3: this is the first time that you because why I
Speaker 3: don't remember this? And I feel like my you know
Speaker 3: what I was insinuating by asking that is all this time,
Speaker 3: why haven't you ever said that? If that would have
Speaker 3: like turned the noise down, why didn't you say that?
Speaker 3: And she said that she did do an interview where
Speaker 3: she did talk about this, you know, to some extent,
Speaker 3: but she felt like the Breakfast Club was a bigger platform.
Speaker 3: She was, you know, more comfortable here, and she hoped
Speaker 3: that because of how big the platform was and how
Speaker 3: you know, what the reach are, what the reach is,
Speaker 3: and what our reach is here, she wouldn't have to
Speaker 3: talk about it again.
Speaker 1: That was her whole point.
Speaker 3: Now, I will say Esther Deane has come out, and
Speaker 3: she commented on the Breakfast Club's Instagram under the carry
Speaker 3: Hilson video where ry Hilson is having the conversation with
Speaker 3: us about this, and because people were tagging her into
Speaker 3: the video because the people knew, they was like, oh,
Speaker 3: Esther Dean wrote this, She commented and said, I'm here,
Speaker 3: and then she commented again because there was someone in
Speaker 3: the comments that said, like, oh, Esther Dean wrote this
Speaker 3: or something like that, and she replied to that person
Speaker 3: and said and did and it was a hit.
Speaker 1: Oh wait, wait, wait, hold on, y'all. Wait, I just
Speaker 1: got a notification.
Speaker 3: Esther Dean actually just responded to all of this on
Speaker 3: her Instagram, not no comments on her real Instagram. She says,
Speaker 3: I submitted a lot of verses for that remix. One
Speaker 3: got picked and it was co written with Carrie. Looking back,
Speaker 3: it was childish and didn't age well. I see how
Speaker 3: it hurt people, especially women, and I take full accountability.
Speaker 3: I've worked with and supported many women since, but that
Speaker 3: doesn't erase the moment. I'm sorry for my part in it.
Speaker 3: Growth is real, and so is apology. It's getting real, y'all.
Speaker 3: I would say I'm indifferent about this, but I kind
Speaker 3: of feel bad.
Speaker 1: For Carrie Holston a bit. I do.
Speaker 3: I know that there are people that feel like, well,
Speaker 3: you know, during the time when it first came out,
Speaker 3: she should have said this. She should have said that, like,
Speaker 3: there should have been more that that happened when you
Speaker 3: saw this snowball effect. But I'm indifferent about what's true
Speaker 3: and what's not. I do have an opinion on how
Speaker 3: I feel about Carrie in this situation. I do feel
Speaker 3: like give her some grace a bit, but I don't
Speaker 3: know what's sure what's not. But until we know, and
Speaker 3: I don't even know if we ever really will know,
Speaker 3: like how would we know that.
Speaker 1: I think this is one of them things.
Speaker 3: Where we have to hear all sides of the story
Speaker 3: and then not that we even have to, but it
Speaker 3: would be nice to hear all sides of the story
Speaker 3: and then be able to make a determination from there.
Speaker 1: Now. I did reach out to Estadeen.
Speaker 3: I DMed her on Instagram and said, hey, you know,
Speaker 3: I work for the Breakfast Club. Would love to talk
Speaker 3: to you as we'll be reporting this more now that
Speaker 3: you commented and you know, let us knew that you
Speaker 3: know that you were the writer. Would love to talk
Speaker 3: to you, you know, from your point of view, because
Speaker 3: I think I'm going to probably reach out to Polo
Speaker 3: to Don too, just to see if he has anything
Speaker 3: that he, you know, would want to add in or
Speaker 3: you know, comment and response. But Carrie Holston's new music
Speaker 3: comes out on April eighteenth. It's called We Need to
Speaker 3: Talk and Carry Holston's back outside and she's talking and baby,
Speaker 3: she didn't start to be high up.
Speaker 1: Again well talking about this too or not. Kenya Moore
Speaker 1: our girl, Key Moore is my girl. I love her.
Speaker 1: Housewives of Atlanta. You watch Taylor, Oh my god.
Speaker 3: I think the last season or two though have been
Speaker 3: a little stale, but they revived it by bringing Porsche
Speaker 3: back onto the show this season. But then Kenya had
Speaker 3: to make the exit because of her back and forth
Speaker 3: with a new cast member. Her name is Brittany Edie
Speaker 3: now Brittany Edi Kenya. We talked about it on the
Speaker 3: last episode that Brittany Edi and Kenya had this they just.
Speaker 1: Don't like each other.
Speaker 3: On the show, we talked about that back and forth.
Speaker 3: I gave you guys that background. If you have not
Speaker 3: listened yet, please go listen to that episode so you
Speaker 3: can have a bit more of the background. Because now
Speaker 3: what has happened is people are responding. So Andy Cohen
Speaker 3: and his co hosts for his radio show are like
Speaker 3: recapping the episode and you know, talking about what happened,
Speaker 3: and Andy's filling the co hosting on what happened and
Speaker 3: the and one of his co hosts makes a comment
Speaker 3: that even showing someone a photo of someone else in
Speaker 3: a sexual manner, or just certain things can be considered
Speaker 3: sexual assault. Now again, if you did not hear my
Speaker 3: breakdown of the episode and what happened, please go visit
Speaker 3: our episode prior to this one. But really quickly, I'll
Speaker 3: just tell you Kenya Moore show photos of the other
Speaker 3: cast member, Brittany given fialatio to a man. Now, according
Speaker 3: to rapecrisis dot org, sexual assault happens when someone either
Speaker 3: touches another person in a sexual manner without consent or
Speaker 3: makes another person touch them in a sexual manner without consent.
Speaker 3: It includes unwonted kissing, in the touching of someone's genital's,
Speaker 3: breast or bottom. I do not see in any of
Speaker 3: the definitions that I am looking at showing revenge porn
Speaker 3: being sexual assault.
Speaker 1: Now, there are other.
Speaker 3: Ways to classify, you know, non consensual sex related crimes,
Speaker 3: but from what I see, this wouldn't have been considered
Speaker 3: sexual assault. So then Andy Cohen in the conversation shifts
Speaker 3: to now you know what Kenya did and showing these
Speaker 3: photos at the event being likened to revenge porn. I
Speaker 3: looked up the definition of revenge porn. The definition of
Speaker 3: revenge porn is revealing or sexually explicit images or videos
Speaker 3: of a person posted on the Internet, typically by a
Speaker 3: former sexual partner, without the consent of the subject, and
Speaker 3: in order to cause them distress or embarrassment. She's been
Speaker 3: and here's the example they give of it. She's been
Speaker 3: campaigning for a change in the law since she first
Speaker 3: became a victim of revenge porn.
Speaker 1: So that's how she was in the sentence.
Speaker 3: Now, the reason why I look this up is because
Speaker 3: there are times where I've heard people claim revenge porn when, like,
Speaker 3: you know, you have like an ex who like leaks
Speaker 3: stuff not even on the Internet, but through text messages
Speaker 3: or emails or stuff like that and trying to exploit
Speaker 3: or whatever, and it's wrong. So Kenya comes in and
Speaker 3: she's responding to Cohen and the co host and she's
Speaker 3: really upset. So this happened on Instagram from her Kenya page.
Speaker 3: Kenya Moore says the two co hosts are extremely ignorant.
Speaker 1: Sexual assault is rape.
Speaker 3: Remember that's what phaed your accused Candy of attempting to
Speaker 3: do to Portia. Now, I will say I think Kenya
Speaker 3: is being a little you know, shady when she brings
Speaker 3: this up because during that yeah, I remember it if
Speaker 3: you don't remember, If you guys don't watch for her
Speaker 3: House as Atlanta, but if you do, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm talking about. During that season when faed Your accused
Speaker 3: Candy of trying to do that to Portia, Faedr ended
Speaker 3: up being put off of the show, So she's basically
Speaker 3: seeing you guys understood it then and understood everything around
Speaker 3: it then, but now, you guys don't revenge porn question mark.
Speaker 3: If someone showed a KIMK sex tape to you, is
Speaker 3: that revenge porn? I found that plus tons of others online.
Speaker 3: She signed a release for it, so it's fair. Then
Speaker 3: she put receipt in all caps. So Kenya is alleging
Speaker 3: that there were release forms signed where these images could
Speaker 3: appear online. So by her recirculating them and putting them
Speaker 3: on the poster to bring to her event, she did
Speaker 3: nothing wrong.
Speaker 1: Warning Kenya says, if.
Speaker 3: You are not an attorney and't familiar with Georgia law,
Speaker 3: then shut the f up. Sick of the bias and
Speaker 3: selective outrage. These are comments that should not have been aired.
Speaker 3: It is a podcast where is legal you don't want activated, Kenya,
Speaker 3: I shouldn't have shown at my event but for the
Speaker 3: love of God, why would they ignore a clear gun threat?
Speaker 3: And she's referring to the fact that the episode before that,
Speaker 3: Brittany says while getting on the elevator to Kenya or
Speaker 3: just in the area of Kenya, that she still has
Speaker 3: her guns in her whips. I'm not don't verbat on
Speaker 3: me there. I believe she said like her pistol, but
Speaker 3: it might have just been the word gun. But still
Speaker 3: she you know what I mean in that context, you know,
Speaker 3: you say that around or to anyone you just got
Speaker 3: done arguing with, which would think they're gonna feel. But
Speaker 3: Brittany was trying to apologize, that is why she can't
Speaker 3: to this event, but.
Speaker 1: King ain't trying to hear.
Speaker 3: And after this, after you know, everything was shown, Kenya
Speaker 3: was suspended and definitely from Real Housewives of Atlanta. So yeah,
Speaker 3: it's a mess.
Speaker 1: It's just a big mess.
Speaker 3: And basically Kenya is at this point threatening Andy Kohen
Speaker 3: and whoever else that is speaking about this that if
Speaker 3: you don't get it right, I'm gonna bring in legal
Speaker 3: now agatting.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: If everything you know here that she's alleging is true.
Speaker 3: I don't know if there were release forms signed by
Speaker 3: Brittany to have these images place certain places wherever Kenya
Speaker 3: found them on the internet. I didn't even look into it,
Speaker 3: to be honest with you, because even if there were,
Speaker 3: I feel like I mean to Kenya's point is what
Speaker 3: she's trying to say Legally, that's a whole different thing.
Speaker 3: And if she takes it legal, I'll look more into that.
Speaker 3: My whole point in bringing us up and covering it.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm a fan of the show, but also too,
Speaker 3: it was sad to see Kenya God like this, like
Speaker 3: I said last episode, and like I'm gonna say here
Speaker 3: as I end this, can You've been standing on business
Speaker 3: about your kingdom and you know what I mean, and
Speaker 3: everything you're doing for your daughter Brooklyn and all that
Speaker 3: for so long.
Speaker 1: Don't let these girls trick you out your spot. Do not.
Speaker 3: Okay, you will og We needed you this season and
Speaker 3: now we ain't got you. There's no reports on whether
Speaker 3: Kenya will be back for next season or not. She
Speaker 3: was suspended in definitely for this season only, so we'll
Speaker 3: have to wait and see.
Speaker 1: So as always, I'm Laura La Rosa.
Speaker 3: I'm the homeguard that knows a little bit about everything
Speaker 3: and every single body, every single time that you know
Speaker 3: y'all joined me right here to talk about all these things,
Speaker 3: because at the end of the day, there is always
Speaker 3: a lot to talk about and a lot of places
Speaker 3: y'all could be listening to to talk about it. I
Speaker 3: appreciate y'all for tuning in, and I will see you
Speaker 3: guys in my next episode.