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Tap in and grab 17 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 2: your tickets now at Black Effect dot Com Flash Podcast. 18 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 3: I'm a homegrew that knows a little bit about everything 19 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:00,080 Speaker 3: and everybody I know. 20 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:01,959 Speaker 1: If you don't lie about that, right, Lauren can't even. 21 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 1: All right, y'all, I am in here. Taylor is here. 22 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 3: Taylor made it the producer of the Latest with Laura 23 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 3: La Rosa. 24 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: The podcast. 25 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:16,479 Speaker 3: This is my first time filming the podcast from the 26 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 3: iHeart and Breakfast Club studios because I got a lot 27 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 3: going on today. I'm gonna be a bet shooting the 28 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 3: BT Talk show that I do what you guys can 29 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 3: find on YouTube and it will soume be on BT Plus, 30 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 3: and then I have a red carpet event and then 31 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 3: I'm outside tonight for a friend's birthday. So I need 32 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 3: to get this in when I can get it, and 33 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 3: we're gonna do the video, but the video will be 34 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 3: a bit different than this. But y'all are in the 35 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 3: best place because, as you guys realized yesterday, if you 36 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 3: watched my video upload on Lauren La rose A TV 37 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 3: or the Black Effect YouTube channel, you probably realized that 38 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 3: I gave y'all little video, but the full episodes only 39 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 3: happen over here on the audio side. So stick with me, 40 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 3: share this, tell a friend, and tell a friend. Bring 41 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 3: it on in. Now, let's get to the Latest, because 42 00:01:57,680 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 3: y'all know I'm the homegirl that knows a little bit 43 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 3: about every everything and everybody. But we got to talk 44 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 3: about me right now, because let me tell y'all, Miss 45 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 3: Carry Hilstaid, Miss Carry Baby Dang, I. 46 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: Still tell her what you loving at? I still can sing. 47 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:16,839 Speaker 3: I got a Billboard recognized hit, The Job Is Mine 48 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 3: by Branica. 49 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:21,399 Speaker 1: You know Billboard covered that. No, that's Billboard cover. 50 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 3: We didn't make the chart or nothing like relax, but 51 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:27,239 Speaker 3: Billboard did talk about it. I said recognize. I ain't 52 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:31,079 Speaker 3: say charting, okay, but yeah. So Carry Holston was here 53 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 3: at the Breakfast Club and we talked to her about 54 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 3: a bunch of different things. But the biggest thing, of course, 55 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 3: when talking about Carry Holston coming back to music after 56 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 3: what like fourteen fifteen years her last drop was in 57 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 3: twenty eleven, is the whole Beyonce debacle, the back and forth. 58 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 3: So in context and a little bit of background for 59 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 3: those who do not know Carry Holston, you know, I 60 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 3: don't have to explain who Carry Hoilston is. She has 61 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 3: major songs. She has written for major celebs as well. 62 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 3: But she there was a song that leaked back in 63 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 3: two thousand and nine. It was the Turning Me on 64 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 3: record that Cary Hilson had moving at that point. It 65 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 3: was a remix to that song. Now the song was leaked, right, 66 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 3: so she had always carry Hilson, had always stood on Yo. I. 67 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 3: You know the song was leaked. It wasn't something I 68 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 3: was supposed to come out. And you know she had 69 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 3: said that, you know, she there was no smoke with Beyonce, 70 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 3: and I know she had talked about meeting Beyonce, and 71 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 3: you know, they didn't really get to talk about it. 72 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 3: They didn't talk about it, but Beyonce introduced herself. So 73 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 3: of course when Beyonce beyonceild if I'm speaking Beyonce into 74 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 3: my interview, existence, God, let me get that. And I 75 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 3: want to mention in the song. We talked about some 76 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 3: of the lyrics up here. There was a part of 77 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 3: the song where she's like carry Hilton. The disc is 78 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 3: like the woman she's referring to. She's talking about this 79 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 3: woman needing to go have some babies. She's talking about 80 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 3: the woman needs to move herself to the left. And 81 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 3: this song was after Beyonce's irreplaceable to the left, to 82 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 3: the left, so it was easy like, oh, that's what 83 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 3: she's talking about. There were other parts of the song too, 84 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 3: where other people had said that you know, they you know, 85 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 3: said that there were other women in the industry at 86 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 3: that time that Cary Hilson was referring to. But of course, 87 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 3: y'all know how people don't play about b So she 88 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 3: went through turbulence because of this. Now, moving this on forward, 89 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 3: when Carry Hilson was here at the Breakfast Club, she 90 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 3: told us this story about the song. 91 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 4: I was young, I'm super young. I felt I had 92 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:28,039 Speaker 4: no power. I felt I had no choice. But I 93 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 4: did record mine my version, which had nothing like that 94 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 4: in it. It was on subject song is about men, 95 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 4: and it leaked like days after I did it. But 96 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,479 Speaker 4: he promised me that wouldn't happen. So it leaked and 97 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 4: that was that. And I protected him. I protected the 98 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 4: girl that wrote it, who went on to become famous. 99 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 4: I protected everyone in the story. So I had to 100 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 4: eat that and I am still eating it to this day. 101 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 4: But that is definitely a regret of not fighting even stronger. 102 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 4: But I again, and to not stand up for my 103 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 4: that was a shame that I wore. Was like I 104 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 4: should have fallen. 105 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 3: Now, when Carrie Holston decided in that interview that she 106 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 3: was not going to reveal who the writer was, I googled, y'all, 107 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:11,280 Speaker 3: I'm sitting on I literally I didn't have my computer 108 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 3: cars in the shop, computers in the car, but I'm 109 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:15,919 Speaker 3: on my phones and y'all will see me in that 110 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 3: moment on my phone because I'm trying to look up, well, 111 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 3: who was the writer on the song? And I don't 112 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 3: know if because it was leaked and you know how 113 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 3: it was placed where it was. 114 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 1: Leaked, writing credits were prevalent or like what. 115 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:30,280 Speaker 3: I also went to Twitter as well, and in that moment, 116 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 3: I didn't know who she was talking about, and then 117 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 3: she said, I'm not going to reveal who the writer 118 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 3: is because the writer is also a celebrity, and I 119 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 3: don't Basically it was kind of given, like she didn't 120 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:43,600 Speaker 3: want to put her out there like that. But everything 121 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 3: else that Carrie alleged, you know, with Polo to don 122 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 3: and or not even just him, but like just execs 123 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 3: or her leadership at the time forcing her to do something, 124 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 3: you know, and hearing that story and I'm thinking, like, 125 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 3: you know, this was years ago, she was a lot younger, 126 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 3: she had such you know, massive, massive success at the time. 127 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:05,479 Speaker 1: I felt for her. 128 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 3: I was like, yo, I can understand, you know what 129 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 3: I mean, like, I don't think I would have done that, 130 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:12,239 Speaker 3: but I can understand being in that position and feeling 131 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 3: like if I don't do this, everything I've worked for 132 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 3: is gonna be in question. These are people with you know, 133 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 3: power influence, say so I'm signed you know, to them, 134 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 3: and you know the all those factors that come in. 135 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 3: But baby, I'm trying to tell y'all, when we posted 136 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 3: this clip online and then I took it over to Twitter, 137 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 3: y'all ain't showing no grace whatsoever, not nar One, Baby 138 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:37,679 Speaker 3: Grace so live here anymore, not Narra One. The way 139 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 3: that she is being dragged on Twitter for telling her 140 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 3: side of the story is insane. And a lot of 141 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 3: people have pointed out, you know, in response to me 142 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 3: taking the video to Twitter, older interviews that Cary Holston 143 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 3: had done where she talked about the song was not 144 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 3: leaked by Polar to down and you know that she 145 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 3: wasn't forced to do the record, And I think y'all 146 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 3: have to at least give her the grace of it. 147 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: This is what she is now saying. 148 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 3: She has the courage to come out and say because 149 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 3: she's taken all of these years, over a decade off 150 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 3: she's found peace of mind. She needs a little bit more, 151 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 3: you know, confident, or a lot more confident in who 152 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 3: she is and where her voice is. She's also now 153 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 3: a independent artist, so can't nobody stop nothing or shut nothing, 154 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. She's an independent artist now 155 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 3: she can do and say certain things. It was different 156 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 3: then they literally controlled her career to some extents, and 157 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 3: I think it was different than too with like, you know, 158 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 3: people believing certain things. I think if Cary Hilson had 159 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 3: come out and said that she was actually forced to 160 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 3: do this song when nobody had believed her, people would 161 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 3: have been like, no, girl, that ain't true. You're just 162 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 3: saying that because the Beyonce fans don't like it. 163 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: That ain't true. Didn't happen. 164 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 3: And then y'all got on my body because I said 165 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 3: I said it in the interview, and I also said 166 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 3: on Twitter that this was the first time that I'd 167 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 3: heard carry Hilston talk about this in detail as far 168 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 3: as being forced in things of that nature. I think 169 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 3: someone put up an interview from about like five years ago. 170 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 3: But even in that interview, I feel like she was 171 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 3: a lot more candid with us, and she said in 172 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 3: our interview because I mentioned that in our interview, like, hey, 173 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 3: this is the first time that you because why I 174 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 3: don't remember this? And I feel like my you know 175 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 3: what I was insinuating by asking that is all this time, 176 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 3: why haven't you ever said that? If that would have 177 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 3: like turned the noise down, why didn't you say that? 178 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 3: And she said that she did do an interview where 179 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 3: she did talk about this, you know, to some extent, 180 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 3: but she felt like the Breakfast Club was a bigger platform. 181 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 3: She was, you know, more comfortable here, and she hoped 182 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 3: that because of how big the platform was and how 183 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 3: you know, what the reach are, what the reach is, 184 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:41,959 Speaker 3: and what our reach is here, she wouldn't have to 185 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 3: talk about it again. 186 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: That was her whole point. 187 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:48,839 Speaker 3: Now, I will say Esther Deane has come out, and 188 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 3: she commented on the Breakfast Club's Instagram under the carry 189 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 3: Hilson video where ry Hilson is having the conversation with 190 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 3: us about this, and because people were tagging her into 191 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 3: the video because the people knew, they was like, oh, 192 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 3: Esther Dean wrote this, She commented and said, I'm here, 193 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 3: and then she commented again because there was someone in 194 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 3: the comments that said, like, oh, Esther Dean wrote this 195 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:11,959 Speaker 3: or something like that, and she replied to that person 196 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 3: and said and did and it was a hit. 197 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:16,719 Speaker 1: Oh wait, wait, wait, hold on, y'all. Wait, I just 198 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: got a notification. 199 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 3: Esther Dean actually just responded to all of this on 200 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 3: her Instagram, not no comments on her real Instagram. She says, 201 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 3: I submitted a lot of verses for that remix. One 202 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 3: got picked and it was co written with Carrie. Looking back, 203 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 3: it was childish and didn't age well. I see how 204 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 3: it hurt people, especially women, and I take full accountability. 205 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 3: I've worked with and supported many women since, but that 206 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 3: doesn't erase the moment. I'm sorry for my part in it. 207 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 3: Growth is real, and so is apology. It's getting real, y'all. 208 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 3: I would say I'm indifferent about this, but I kind 209 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 3: of feel bad. 210 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: For Carrie Holston a bit. I do. 211 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 3: I know that there are people that feel like, well, 212 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 3: you know, during the time when it first came out, 213 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 3: she should have said this. She should have said that, like, 214 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 3: there should have been more that that happened when you 215 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 3: saw this snowball effect. But I'm indifferent about what's true 216 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 3: and what's not. I do have an opinion on how 217 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 3: I feel about Carrie in this situation. I do feel 218 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 3: like give her some grace a bit, but I don't 219 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 3: know what's sure what's not. But until we know, and 220 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:16,199 Speaker 3: I don't even know if we ever really will know, 221 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 3: like how would we know that. 222 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 1: I think this is one of them things. 223 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 3: Where we have to hear all sides of the story 224 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 3: and then not that we even have to, but it 225 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 3: would be nice to hear all sides of the story 226 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 3: and then be able to make a determination from there. 227 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 1: Now. I did reach out to Estadeen. 228 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 3: I DMed her on Instagram and said, hey, you know, 229 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:32,439 Speaker 3: I work for the Breakfast Club. Would love to talk 230 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 3: to you as we'll be reporting this more now that 231 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 3: you commented and you know, let us knew that you 232 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 3: know that you were the writer. Would love to talk 233 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 3: to you, you know, from your point of view, because 234 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:43,079 Speaker 3: I think I'm going to probably reach out to Polo 235 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 3: to Don too, just to see if he has anything 236 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 3: that he, you know, would want to add in or 237 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 3: you know, comment and response. But Carrie Holston's new music 238 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 3: comes out on April eighteenth. It's called We Need to 239 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 3: Talk and Carry Holston's back outside and she's talking and baby, 240 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 3: she didn't start to be high up. 241 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: Again well talking about this too or not. Kenya Moore 242 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: our girl, Key Moore is my girl. I love her. 243 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: Housewives of Atlanta. You watch Taylor, Oh my god. 244 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 3: I think the last season or two though have been 245 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 3: a little stale, but they revived it by bringing Porsche 246 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 3: back onto the show this season. But then Kenya had 247 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 3: to make the exit because of her back and forth 248 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 3: with a new cast member. Her name is Brittany Edie 249 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 3: now Brittany Edi Kenya. We talked about it on the 250 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:35,959 Speaker 3: last episode that Brittany Edi and Kenya had this they just. 251 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:36,719 Speaker 1: Don't like each other. 252 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 3: On the show, we talked about that back and forth. 253 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 3: I gave you guys that background. If you have not 254 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 3: listened yet, please go listen to that episode so you 255 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 3: can have a bit more of the background. Because now 256 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 3: what has happened is people are responding. So Andy Cohen 257 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 3: and his co hosts for his radio show are like 258 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 3: recapping the episode and you know, talking about what happened, 259 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 3: and Andy's filling the co hosting on what happened and 260 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 3: the and one of his co hosts makes a comment 261 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 3: that even showing someone a photo of someone else in 262 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 3: a sexual manner, or just certain things can be considered 263 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 3: sexual assault. Now again, if you did not hear my 264 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 3: breakdown of the episode and what happened, please go visit 265 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 3: our episode prior to this one. But really quickly, I'll 266 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 3: just tell you Kenya Moore show photos of the other 267 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 3: cast member, Brittany given fialatio to a man. Now, according 268 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 3: to rapecrisis dot org, sexual assault happens when someone either 269 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 3: touches another person in a sexual manner without consent or 270 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 3: makes another person touch them in a sexual manner without consent. 271 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 3: It includes unwonted kissing, in the touching of someone's genital's, 272 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 3: breast or bottom. I do not see in any of 273 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 3: the definitions that I am looking at showing revenge porn 274 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 3: being sexual assault. 275 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: Now, there are other. 276 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 3: Ways to classify, you know, non consensual sex related crimes, 277 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 3: but from what I see, this wouldn't have been considered 278 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:06,679 Speaker 3: sexual assault. So then Andy Cohen in the conversation shifts 279 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 3: to now you know what Kenya did and showing these 280 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 3: photos at the event being likened to revenge porn. I 281 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 3: looked up the definition of revenge porn. The definition of 282 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 3: revenge porn is revealing or sexually explicit images or videos 283 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 3: of a person posted on the Internet, typically by a 284 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 3: former sexual partner, without the consent of the subject, and 285 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 3: in order to cause them distress or embarrassment. She's been 286 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 3: and here's the example they give of it. She's been 287 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 3: campaigning for a change in the law since she first 288 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 3: became a victim of revenge porn. 289 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 1: So that's how she was in the sentence. 290 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 3: Now, the reason why I look this up is because 291 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 3: there are times where I've heard people claim revenge porn when, like, 292 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 3: you know, you have like an ex who like leaks 293 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 3: stuff not even on the Internet, but through text messages 294 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:52,959 Speaker 3: or emails or stuff like that and trying to exploit 295 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 3: or whatever, and it's wrong. So Kenya comes in and 296 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:01,319 Speaker 3: she's responding to Cohen and the co host and she's 297 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:05,079 Speaker 3: really upset. So this happened on Instagram from her Kenya page. 298 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 3: Kenya Moore says the two co hosts are extremely ignorant. 299 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: Sexual assault is rape. 300 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 3: Remember that's what phaed your accused Candy of attempting to 301 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 3: do to Portia. Now, I will say I think Kenya 302 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 3: is being a little you know, shady when she brings 303 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 3: this up because during that yeah, I remember it if 304 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 3: you don't remember, If you guys don't watch for her 305 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 3: House as Atlanta, but if you do, you know what 306 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 3: I'm talking about. During that season when faed Your accused 307 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 3: Candy of trying to do that to Portia, Faedr ended 308 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 3: up being put off of the show, So she's basically 309 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 3: seeing you guys understood it then and understood everything around 310 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 3: it then, but now, you guys don't revenge porn question mark. 311 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 3: If someone showed a KIMK sex tape to you, is 312 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 3: that revenge porn? I found that plus tons of others online. 313 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 3: She signed a release for it, so it's fair. Then 314 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 3: she put receipt in all caps. So Kenya is alleging 315 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 3: that there were release forms signed where these images could 316 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 3: appear online. So by her recirculating them and putting them 317 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 3: on the poster to bring to her event, she did 318 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 3: nothing wrong. 319 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: Warning Kenya says, if. 320 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 3: You are not an attorney and't familiar with Georgia law, 321 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 3: then shut the f up. Sick of the bias and 322 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 3: selective outrage. These are comments that should not have been aired. 323 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 3: It is a podcast where is legal you don't want activated, Kenya, 324 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 3: I shouldn't have shown at my event but for the 325 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 3: love of God, why would they ignore a clear gun threat? 326 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 3: And she's referring to the fact that the episode before that, 327 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 3: Brittany says while getting on the elevator to Kenya or 328 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 3: just in the area of Kenya, that she still has 329 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 3: her guns in her whips. I'm not don't verbat on 330 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 3: me there. I believe she said like her pistol, but 331 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 3: it might have just been the word gun. But still 332 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 3: she you know what I mean in that context, you know, 333 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 3: you say that around or to anyone you just got 334 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 3: done arguing with, which would think they're gonna feel. But 335 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 3: Brittany was trying to apologize, that is why she can't 336 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 3: to this event, but. 337 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 1: King ain't trying to hear. 338 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 3: And after this, after you know, everything was shown, Kenya 339 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 3: was suspended and definitely from Real Housewives of Atlanta. So yeah, 340 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 3: it's a mess. 341 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: It's just a big mess. 342 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 3: And basically Kenya is at this point threatening Andy Kohen 343 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 3: and whoever else that is speaking about this that if 344 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 3: you don't get it right, I'm gonna bring in legal 345 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 3: now agatting. 346 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: I don't know. 347 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 3: If everything you know here that she's alleging is true. 348 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 3: I don't know if there were release forms signed by 349 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 3: Brittany to have these images place certain places wherever Kenya 350 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 3: found them on the internet. I didn't even look into it, 351 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 3: to be honest with you, because even if there were, 352 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 3: I feel like I mean to Kenya's point is what 353 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 3: she's trying to say Legally, that's a whole different thing. 354 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 3: And if she takes it legal, I'll look more into that. 355 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 3: My whole point in bringing us up and covering it. 356 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 3: You know, I'm a fan of the show, but also too, 357 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 3: it was sad to see Kenya God like this, like 358 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 3: I said last episode, and like I'm gonna say here 359 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 3: as I end this, can You've been standing on business 360 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 3: about your kingdom and you know what I mean, and 361 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 3: everything you're doing for your daughter Brooklyn and all that 362 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 3: for so long. 363 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:10,159 Speaker 1: Don't let these girls trick you out your spot. Do not. 364 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 3: Okay, you will og We needed you this season and 365 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 3: now we ain't got you. There's no reports on whether 366 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:18,879 Speaker 3: Kenya will be back for next season or not. She 367 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 3: was suspended in definitely for this season only, so we'll 368 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 3: have to wait and see. 369 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:25,159 Speaker 1: So as always, I'm Laura La Rosa. 370 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,160 Speaker 3: I'm the homeguard that knows a little bit about everything 371 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 3: and every single body, every single time that you know 372 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:32,919 Speaker 3: y'all joined me right here to talk about all these things, 373 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 3: because at the end of the day, there is always 374 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 3: a lot to talk about and a lot of places 375 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 3: y'all could be listening to to talk about it. I 376 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 3: appreciate y'all for tuning in, and I will see you 377 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 3: guys in my next episode.