1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,160 Speaker 1: Welcome to the new I Heart Radio and Coast to 2 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: Coastadium Paranormal Podcast Network. Like us on Facebook, tell your 3 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: friends and sure us with everyone. This is an exciting 4 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: new network that will feature podcasts on the paranormal, supernatural, 5 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: and the unexplained. Now please enjoy the Darker Side of 6 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 1: Life with Heidi Hollis. You are listening to the Darker 7 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:35,239 Speaker 1: Side of Life with me, Heidi Hollis on the I 8 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: Heart Radio and Coast to Coast and Paranormal Podcast Network. 9 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: Welcome to Night Show. This is the program where every 10 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:49,959 Speaker 1: week you get to listen to people just like yourself 11 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: who have experienced things out of the ordinary and just 12 00:00:54,520 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: want to vent, make a comment, ask questions, and just 13 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: get a little bit deeper on these very peculiar topics 14 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: that many of us happen to trip up and into. 15 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: For myself, tripping is all I've ever done into the paranormal, 16 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: and this program bringing these topics that are less spoken 17 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:25,559 Speaker 1: of on the darker side of life, bringing them into 18 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 1: the light. That's what it's all about. No longer keeping 19 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: these types of things in our paranormal closets. So I 20 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 1: welcome you to go to my main website, which is 21 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: Heidi Hollis dot com, and be sure to write as 22 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: much as you'd like on your emails so I can 23 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 1: get a really good understanding on whatever it is that 24 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: you've experienced. So, if it's something dark, exactly what did 25 00:01:55,200 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: it look like? Was it wearing something? Was something strange 26 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 1: going on in your life that you think maybe the 27 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:09,559 Speaker 1: cause of what took place? Oftentimes where we come from, 28 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: what we are made of, really helps round our perspective 29 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: on the paranormal. And when I say paranormal, a lot 30 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: of people are really touchy about that word, and I 31 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: get it because I feel this stuff is rather normal 32 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: as well, but because of some of the classifications and 33 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 1: the tongue in cheek references that happen in the world. 34 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 1: Here we sit with this name, but we make it 35 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: what we want of it. And I think we have 36 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: a lot of ground to cover and making some changes. 37 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 1: But a lot of doors are opening and I'm rather impressed. 38 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:54,639 Speaker 1: So let's begin sharing even more so we could get 39 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 1: bigger and better answers. Today. I wanted to have the 40 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: opportunity to talk about more of my background when it 41 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: comes to the paranormal, because again, is this really paranormal? 42 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: I often am not hesitant to say that I'm Christian, 43 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: and a lot of people don't understand where that comes from. 44 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: Speak of the paranormal and being a Christian in the 45 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: same sentence, that's just like, does that even go together? 46 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: More and more I think people are realizing it really does. 47 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: But back in the day, I recall when no one 48 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: would even say God bless you after you sneezed, almost 49 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: not the folks that were involved in some of the 50 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: UFO groups and paranormal discussion groups that I happen to attend, 51 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: or that I ran myself, and I fell into that 52 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: category at one point. I was raised is a Christian, 53 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: and rightfully so, I was made to go to church, 54 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: and Church really did give me a good foundation to 55 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: grow from, and I relied upon it, and I knew 56 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: a lot of things that I was supposed to do 57 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: and not do, and and I felt like it was 58 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: a lot of gut instinct and common sense stuff. And 59 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: it was appreciated though, because I had some sticky situations 60 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 1: and I am certain my prayers were answered. What got 61 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 1: me to this point though, When I was in college, 62 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: a lot of people didn't go to bed early on 63 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: a Saturday night, so they could get up early Sunday 64 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: to go to church. So you kind of fall away 65 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: from a lot of the rules that your parents throw 66 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 1: on you, and I sure did. I kept up with 67 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: my prayers for the most part. I got to say 68 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 1: them every night, but I got so bored with them 69 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 1: it was really underwhelming for me. And then it kind 70 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: of trailed off where I just didn't pray so much. Unfortunately, now, 71 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: while I was in college, I had some very very 72 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 1: close encounters with what you and everybody now knows to 73 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 1: be called shadow people. It was later when I experienced 74 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: hat Man. Hat Man was something that my college roommate 75 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: had experienced, and I just thought it was another form 76 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:23,559 Speaker 1: that shadow people took. Now, in the midst of this 77 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 1: going on, I had stepped away from what people consider 78 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: to be clear and present Christianity in my life. I 79 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 1: felt that Jesus was someone who kind of did his 80 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: thing and said he'd come back one day, and we're 81 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 1: supposed to say in Jesus name after our prayers, and 82 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:51,679 Speaker 1: that was about it, Like he was this historical figure, right. Well, 83 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:55,359 Speaker 1: I really took pride on picking on my friends, the 84 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: few that did go to church on Sundays and all 85 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: my friends really took great fun at poking at me 86 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 1: and saying, ah, those alien things that you're into, like oh, 87 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 1: that's evil and all this stuff, and and I played 88 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: along with it. It's like, yeah, if I stepped footing 89 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,559 Speaker 1: a church now, I'd probably start on fire that type 90 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 1: of thing. But in all honesty, I believed in God. 91 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,919 Speaker 1: I believe Jesus existed. I just I just took a 92 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 1: step back. I was seeing things that were right up 93 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: front in my face all the time that spelled out 94 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 1: to be more active in this world today, and it 95 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 1: didn't have Jesus face on it. And then there were 96 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 1: those reports that crept up into the world of Jesus 97 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: showing up on a drip of paint on the walls 98 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: or on a piece of toast or tree trunk or whatever. 99 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 1: It's just it seemed to be something that always popped up, 100 00:06:56,200 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: and I just felt like people were witnessing something, but 101 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:06,679 Speaker 1: I felt that they were possibly mistaken and angelic being 102 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: for Jesus, because I had seen angelic beings, but I 103 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: knew it wasn't Jesus. I was pretty confident in that. 104 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: I don't know why, but I felt rather confident in that. 105 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: So I had a lot of encounters with shadow beings 106 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: and even alien beings that were not of the abducting types. 107 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: So I was dealing with that and writing my first book, 108 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: trying to get things together, and that book was called 109 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 1: The Secret War The Heavens Speak of the Battle. I 110 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: completed that book in two months time. I felt really 111 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: really urgent in getting that message out there because I 112 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: was warned shadow people and hat Man would be a 113 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: worldwide phenomenon. I did not know at the time that 114 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: anybody had experienced anything even close to what I had 115 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: seen or experienced. So I put that book together and 116 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: I'm editing it. I'm sending it out all over the 117 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: place to other publishers, and at the time, for the 118 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: most part, the only publishers were other authors on the 119 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: paranormal or uphology. So it did its rounds. Let me 120 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: tell you, it went from one end of the country 121 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: too across the sea to be honest, went to England 122 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 1: and uh, it was really close to getting published, only 123 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: for people to back up and round and round. I went, 124 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: taking only two months to write this while I was 125 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 1: a full time student, to four years to actually getting 126 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: it published. So yeah, the topic of shadow people leaked 127 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 1: out there, that being the title of what I had 128 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 1: called these Things. But I was told not to speak 129 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: of the contents of the book completely, not directly, because 130 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 1: the content could end with me if I spoke prematurely. 131 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: It seems strange, but when you think about it, there 132 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 1: is a lot of truth in that book and it 133 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: serves as the defining point for the entire Shadow people, 134 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 1: Phenomena and hat Man. And if I had spoken and 135 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: not had that book put into print, I guess, uh, 136 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: we wouldn't be where we are today. Would wait. So 137 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 1: it was fortunate that I paid attention to the instructions given. 138 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 1: But during that time, very very difficult time. I am 139 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:54,239 Speaker 1: an occupational therapist and the schooling that I was involved 140 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 1: in was grueling, very difficult. I had internships, could not work, 141 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: had to rely upon student loans, and the stress level 142 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 1: was through the roof, and I've got demonic entities going 143 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: through my shared apartment. And just when I thought things 144 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: can't get any more strange or out of the ordinary, 145 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: I had an encounter with Jesus. Interesting enough, A lot 146 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 1: of people wonder how that fit into the mix of things, 147 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: and thought did that confuse me or something? And actually 148 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 1: it made things absolutely crystal clear for myself. I know, 149 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: it seems like night and day, aliens, ships flying around, 150 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: black shadowy things creeping around with glowing red eyes, and Jesus, 151 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 1: I'll tell you right afterwards, my friends who did go 152 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 1: to church on Sundays, they knew something took place because 153 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: all I kept saying after this occurrence was Jesus is 154 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: no joke. Stay in church. This is for real. And 155 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: they looked at me like whoa something has happened. And 156 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: I even had a couple of people say are we 157 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 1: losing you with Where are you going with this? And 158 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: all I could do is be painfully honest, and that's 159 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 1: something that I can't ever get away from. To be 160 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 1: painfully honest, to put my name to things, and just 161 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: to be who I am because I don't know how 162 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: else to be. And if you want to make change, 163 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: you stand as you are. You use your real name, 164 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: though my parents had asked me to use a pen 165 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:49,719 Speaker 1: name at one point, because I was breaking some barriers 166 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 1: that people just don't do. I had to stay true 167 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: to who I am. And there's a lot of people 168 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 1: you'd be surprised who come out talking on this who 169 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: are not using their real names. They're using their middle 170 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: names or something made up or just initials. Well, I 171 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 1: told my dad he didn't have any sons and tidy 172 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 1: House kind of ghost together really well, So I told 173 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: him I'm going to abuse his name to its fullest. 174 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 1: After the break, I'm going to tell you about some 175 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 1: of these encounters I've had. You are listening to the 176 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 1: Darker Side of Life with me Heidi House on the 177 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast, a m paranormal 178 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: podcast network. We'll be right back. Stay right there, there's 179 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 1: more Heidi coming right up. 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You're listening to the 195 00:13:56,720 --> 00:14:00,080 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast, a m our 196 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: normal podcast network heard on the I Heart Radio app, 197 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts, or wherever you find your favorite shows. Welcome back. 198 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Darker Side of Life with 199 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: me Heidi Hollis on the I Heart Radio and Coast 200 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: to Coast, a m paranormal podcast network. Remember to go 201 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:39,479 Speaker 1: to my main website, which is Heidi Hollis dot com, 202 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: and if you've experienced anything out of the ordinary, be 203 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 1: sure to send me all of the details and we 204 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: could go over it here on this program and hopefully 205 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: help shed some light on the darker sides of this life. 206 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: Before the break, I was sharing a little bit about 207 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: how I came to the point that I have and 208 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 1: being such a forward thinking and speaking Christian and standing 209 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 1: behind everything that I say because that's the only way 210 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: I know to be. This story took place July while 211 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: I was in between having gone to work and about 212 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 1: to go to class. So I came home from work. 213 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: I worked at a local bakery from five in the 214 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: morning till twelve noon, and I'd come home and take 215 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 1: a nap before i'd go to my class. So I 216 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 1: told my college roommate if she please turn her TV 217 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 1: down so I could lay down really quick and take 218 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 1: a quick nap. Now what happened next. I really don't 219 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 1: have any words better to describe. But you know, when 220 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 1: you go to lay down in your bed and you 221 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: kind of get comfortable, you move the blankets around, made 222 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: move the pillow, and this is the summer day, so 223 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 1: it was warm outside, and I still, you know, I 224 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: punched the pillow a couple of times, you roll around something. 225 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 1: So I go to lie down on the bed and 226 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: swing my legs around and and I missed the bed. 227 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: I hit the floor so violently, I mean just boom, 228 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 1: And I'm like, wow, how did I manage that. I'm 229 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 1: like getting myself up off the floor, kind of dusting 230 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 1: myself off, and I got to look for the bed 231 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: and it wasn't there any longer. I look, and I 232 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 1: am stunned to find I am standing in front of 233 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: my parents home now A strange thing, strange fact for myself. 234 00:16:54,360 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: Whenever I have really powerful experiences visual, I don't know 235 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 1: people would call them visions. Um. I always say I'm 236 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 1: not a psychic, but I don't know what else to 237 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 1: call these things, just some kind of a vision. They 238 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:17,640 Speaker 1: always happened to my parents house, and I'm sure there's 239 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:20,120 Speaker 1: a reason for that, but I just don't know it. 240 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: So anyways, I get myself off the floor, I realize 241 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: I'm standing in front of my parents home on their 242 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 1: front porch, and I'm doing my best to try to 243 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: figure out how on earth I arrived here. I'm looking around. 244 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:43,719 Speaker 1: I'm thinking I was going to meet with a family friend. 245 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: His name is Quincy for the record, and I'm like, yeah, yeah, 246 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: I was coming here, and I just don't remember how 247 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: I got here. But okay, I mean this scenario was 248 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 1: as real as I am sitting here at my desk 249 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:05,160 Speaker 1: talking to you. No doubts I was there. And sure 250 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 1: enough I looked to my left and my parents kind 251 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: of live out in the country and they have this 252 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: long driveway in and I see a man at the 253 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 1: end of the driveway and I'm like, that's Quincy. Of course, 254 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: of course, this is why I'm here. Of course, this 255 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 1: is why I'm here. And it didn't take long. As 256 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: soon as he started walking towards me, I had this 257 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 1: utter feeling of recognition and being as silly as I am, 258 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 1: I put my face in my hands and I'm like, 259 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 1: this is not happening. This is not happening. That's not 260 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 1: who I think it is. I'm totally questioning what might 261 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:53,919 Speaker 1: be going on right now. And before I know it, 262 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: this man that was so far at the end of 263 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 1: the driveway is suddenly here in front of me, and 264 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: I've got my hands over my face, palming my face, 265 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:08,400 Speaker 1: and he says hello, like he's going to talk about 266 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 1: the weather or something in the next sentence, and I'm 267 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 1: I'm just palming my face. I'm looking down like hello, 268 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 1: and he says, if you knew who I was, you 269 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 1: would not hesitate to say it. And I'm just get 270 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: goose bumps every time I think about this. I started 271 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 1: stuttering and I'm taking my hands away from my eyes 272 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 1: and I'm going, whoa, whoa, whoa, Well, well you're you're 273 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: has sous and he said, yes, I am. Now, first off, 274 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 1: I don't speak Spanish, I don't know why I called 275 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 1: him has sous. And when I took my hands away 276 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:53,400 Speaker 1: from my face and saw him, he was a bit 277 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 1: up in the air, and I saw this long white robe, 278 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 1: it's a little off white. I saw show length hair, 279 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 1: and I saw it looked like a very bright light 280 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: behind his head, so his face became fully shadowed. And 281 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: I'm looking and I'm just almost in disbelief, but I 282 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: knew who was there in front of me. And he 283 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 1: began talking about his life and what he did and 284 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:26,159 Speaker 1: what he aimed to do and how so much needed 285 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:32,880 Speaker 1: to be done yet. And me, I'm still me going, Heidi, 286 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:36,880 Speaker 1: you're really here, You're really here. He's really there, You're 287 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: really here. I'm I'm practically pinching myself. I'm pinching myself. 288 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 1: I'm looking around at my parents front porch. I'm like 289 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 1: And then I looked down at the ground and I realized, 290 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 1: why is the ground so close to me? And I 291 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 1: exclaimed to myself like, I'm on my knees. I don't 292 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 1: even remember going on my knees, and Jesus got really quiet, 293 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 1: and I felt like a kid that was caught in class, 294 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 1: like not paying attention, and and I'm touching the ground 295 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 1: and I'm like kind of look up to him to 296 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 1: the right and and I'm like, oh, say something, Heidi, 297 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 1: who wo wo wo wo what I'm stuttering? What do 298 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:28,439 Speaker 1: you want me to do? And he said, first you 299 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 1: need to show us some things. And I'm looking around 300 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: like us. I'm like, I don't see anybody else there 301 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 1: except for him, And I'm like he must be speaking 302 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 1: about his father. And he said, finished writing your book. 303 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 1: Do not worry what others say. I know that I'll 304 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: be there to give you the words. Now that book, 305 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 1: I told you it was written quickly, two months time, 306 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 1: my biggest book, by the way, done under the most 307 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:06,400 Speaker 1: pressure while it was working and in school and in turning. 308 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 1: It was rough, but the book needed to be done. 309 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 1: He then went on to tell me about something that 310 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: I couldn't make out. It was like I saw his 311 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:20,439 Speaker 1: mouth moving, but I couldn't hear any words. And I 312 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 1: knew whatever it was, I wasn't meant to know it then, 313 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: but that I would at another time. And the peculiar 314 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 1: thing is his face was shadowed, but I have memories 315 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 1: of pieces of his face like that, like his mouth. 316 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 1: The interesting part about what he told me about don't worry, 317 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 1: I'll be there to give you the words. While I 318 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 1: was in college, I had to have straight a's if 319 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 1: I wanted to get the degree that I wanted, and 320 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 1: I was so reluctant to speak in front of others 321 00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 1: that I would not do the Closs presentation and just 322 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:05,640 Speaker 1: make sure I had really, really high grades on everything else. 323 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 1: So when they deducted my lack of participating in the presentation, 324 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: it wouldn't harm me. So just so you know, before 325 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 1: I come on any show or do any kind of interview, 326 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 1: I always looked to the heavens and I say, you 327 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 1: promised me, you give me the words, and now I'm 328 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 1: holding you to it because I have nothing to say. 329 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: And it's kind of true. I really don't. I would 330 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 1: be perfectly fine being a comic strip artist and just 331 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: retiring doing that. It's all everyone to be growing up 332 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,640 Speaker 1: as a comic strip artist. I always tell people that 333 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,360 Speaker 1: it's all they wanted to be, and I still am. 334 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: You have to check out my comics sometime the Outlanders 335 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 1: comic dot com or just go to Heidi Hollis dot com. 336 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:03,439 Speaker 1: You'll see the link there. I enjoy it and to 337 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: be tasked with this and his words just blew me away, 338 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 1: blew me away, but gladly to take on the challenge. 339 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 1: If he comes to ask you something, you stand with him. 340 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 1: And that's what I intended to do. And I still 341 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 1: do strange things. Strange topics are not all dark, but 342 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 1: they do sit in the dark, and they remain on 343 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: this darker side of life, these topics that just don't 344 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:39,880 Speaker 1: see the light of day. So many people just don't 345 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 1: understand how we can bring our faith with us. And 346 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,920 Speaker 1: at the time I wasn't a believer to the level 347 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 1: that I am right now. And I'll tell you when 348 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: it came to the Secret War Book that I was 349 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 1: editing at the time, I had placed in there how 350 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:02,400 Speaker 1: people were not say being clearly as I mentioned that 351 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:07,399 Speaker 1: they were just mistaken and seeing angelic beings that wasn't Jesus. 352 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 1: I had totally bashed the idea that Jesus were around 353 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: today visiting people. I surely didn't think that he was 354 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 1: on a piece of toast. And here he came in 355 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 1: the flesh where I had to rewrite a good chunk 356 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 1: of that book. And I say why I had to, 357 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:32,199 Speaker 1: because he stopped by and he made sure that I 358 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 1: got things right I never ever wanted to keep any 359 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 1: of my experiences in the dark, no matter how dark 360 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 1: or how bright it got, And I hope that it 361 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,919 Speaker 1: helps inspire people to know that they can bring all 362 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 1: of who they are into whatever it is that they 363 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:58,160 Speaker 1: experienced today. And that's what I do on this show. 364 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 1: It's so important. This is how we find answers, this 365 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:07,479 Speaker 1: is how we blend it all together and solve the 366 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 1: riddles of the world. 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You 412 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: are listening to the Darker side of life with me, 413 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 1: Heidi Hollis on the I Heart Radio and Coast to 414 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 1: Coast am Paranormal Podcast Network. Remember to go to my 415 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 1: main website, which is Heidi Hollis dot com. Send me 416 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 1: your stories, your questions, your comments, and remember, if you'd 417 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 1: like to be a special guest on this program, you 418 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 1: are more than welcome. Just indicate that in your email 419 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 1: and I will reach out to you. Just before the break, 420 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:31,479 Speaker 1: I spoke of the encounter that I had with Jesus Christ. 421 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 1: People often wonder how did somebody like myself go from 422 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 1: having been raised in a haunted house to having witnessed 423 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 1: UFOs too, having named and defined too paranormal phenomena that 424 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 1: are the most popular paranormal phenomena probably in the world today. 425 00:29:53,200 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 1: Now two being very adamant and outspoken about being Christian 426 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 1: now something that I haven't indicated a whole lot out there. 427 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 1: When it comes to my encounters with Jesus, I have 428 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: had more than I have even indicated in my book 429 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 1: called Jesus Is No Joke. A true story of an 430 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 1: unlikely witness who saw Jesus, which is myself. Because I 431 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 1: was such a huge skeptic of people who claim to 432 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 1: have seen Jesus again. I felt that he had done 433 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 1: his thing, and yes, he was going to come back 434 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 1: one day. But to think that he was out and 435 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 1: about visiting so regularly to people, I just thought people 436 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 1: were mistaken that they saw an angelic being versus it 437 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 1: actually being Jesus. Because I had seen these other beings too, 438 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 1: and I knew they weren't Jesus while I was wrong, 439 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 1: and I accepted that I was wrong. Now, after that 440 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 1: initial encounter that I mentioned, everything changed for me. Everything changed. 441 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 1: All I could say to my friends and anybody who 442 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 1: would listen as Jesus is no joke. This is happening, 443 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 1: This is for real. He's here and he wanted me 444 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 1: to finish writing my book, The Secret War. The Heavens 445 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 1: speak of the battle. This book spoke of an alien 446 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 1: war and how Shadow People and hat Man were involved 447 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 1: in this war. Do you you're catching this full circle? 448 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 1: It's all connected. I am having the most incredible experience 449 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 1: of my life with Jesus Christ, and he's telling me, 450 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 1: you know that book that you took only two months 451 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 1: to write, and you've been working and editing and trying 452 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 1: to get published all this while four years, be sure 453 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 1: to finish that it's important. Everything shifted in my mind 454 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 1: and in my heart and my goals. Going from having 455 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 1: this big space in my mind of where aliens fit 456 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 1: and crafton Shadow People, two Jesus and God, and this 457 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 1: became my weapon against these darker things that I had 458 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 1: written about, the beings that I wrote of in The 459 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 1: Secret War book, They spoke of Jesus being who he 460 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 1: said he was. They even went so far as to 461 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 1: say that I didn't pray enough. Imagine that I didn't 462 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 1: pray enough. I was in college, I was busy, I 463 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 1: wasn't a party er. I was a serious student. But 464 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,959 Speaker 1: I just had again, I witnessed so much. I was 465 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,959 Speaker 1: so focused on these things that were right in my 466 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 1: face that I did kind of step away. And I 467 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 1: think a lot of people did during their college years, 468 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 1: just because freedoms that they never experienced before. Luckily, Jesus 469 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 1: saw I was making a grave mistake, and he helped 470 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 1: me straighten that out. To now know how big of 471 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 1: an impact that a college student had made with their 472 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 1: self published book, and I was bashing the idea that 473 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 1: Jesus were around today. Look At how much of an 474 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 1: impression that would have made on people. So I'm very 475 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 1: fortunate that I wasn't allowed to make that mistake. And 476 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 1: he dropped by, and he dropped by again and again, 477 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 1: and to the point that I have had miracle healings 478 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 1: and apparition visions of him that just constantly give me 479 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 1: goose bumps when I think about it. So when people 480 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:11,800 Speaker 1: wonder Heidy, you talk about aliens and all these things 481 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 1: in the same sentence and the same momentum. It's all connected. 482 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 1: I didn't think fondly back on my childhood sitting on 483 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:28,879 Speaker 1: these hard wooden church pews as being something delightful. It's 484 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 1: not something that I really had the best impressions about 485 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 1: in my life because my family didn't go together to 486 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 1: church or anything. It wasn't that good feeling. Sure, I 487 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 1: love Sunday School, but sitting during Mass just seemed to 488 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,799 Speaker 1: be me trying to practice to sit still and not 489 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 1: get antsy. And I was there with my two sisters 490 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 1: who practiced how to sit still as well. And I 491 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,919 Speaker 1: was glad, of course, to have the foundation I did 492 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:59,479 Speaker 1: for faith, because, like I mentioned, it brought me back 493 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 1: to the point of a lot of rest assuredness and 494 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,400 Speaker 1: not being left hanging and knowing I had God to 495 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 1: rely upon. Now, this next part, a lot of people 496 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 1: don't understand how it is that again, why would I 497 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 1: take up this flame and continue such a forward march 498 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:30,399 Speaker 1: on these odd topics that Jesus encounter. That initial one 499 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:36,239 Speaker 1: and then the others that followed, those were amazing, absolutely 500 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:43,279 Speaker 1: life altering, life changing experience. But would you believe that 501 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:47,320 Speaker 1: a couple of years prior to this, that I had 502 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:52,399 Speaker 1: an experience that really defies any explanation that I could 503 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:56,720 Speaker 1: ever come across. And I have been interviewing and talking 504 00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 1: to a lot of people in the world of paranormal 505 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 1: and esoteric and spiritualism and psychic phenomena out there, and 506 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 1: I would come across anyone who has had this type 507 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 1: of experience. I was in college and I was talking 508 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:21,319 Speaker 1: to a friend of mine who also had experienced a 509 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 1: lot of strange things herself, and so while talking, I 510 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,279 Speaker 1: had to use the ladies room. So I got up 511 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:32,279 Speaker 1: from my phuton and I walked across the room and 512 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 1: my vision changed. I was no longer in my living room. Instead, 513 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:44,400 Speaker 1: I was looking at this extraordinary scene in outer space. 514 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 1: I saw what looked like a giant spinning sun that 515 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 1: moved clockwise, and to the left of it was a 516 00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 1: spinning red light. But in this spinning sun, there were 517 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 1: trillions upon trillions of lights in it, and every single 518 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:14,080 Speaker 1: light represented a soul, trillions upon trillions of souls, and 519 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:18,040 Speaker 1: I was one of those lights. I was in there, 520 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,880 Speaker 1: and I call it like a love suit because it 521 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 1: was so warm, it was so loving, and when thoughts 522 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:29,440 Speaker 1: and ideas came together, they passed through this love soup, 523 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,880 Speaker 1: and and every light contributed to the thought as it 524 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,520 Speaker 1: went past them, and it went to the center, and 525 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:42,600 Speaker 1: it became one an idea passed through something that needed 526 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:44,759 Speaker 1: to be done here in this world and on this 527 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:51,320 Speaker 1: planet during this exact time. And and I remember casually thinking, 528 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:56,880 Speaker 1: and I say casually thinking, I guess that's something I 529 00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:01,240 Speaker 1: could do. You ever see those comedy routines where everybody 530 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,160 Speaker 1: takes a step back in line like she said it, 531 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,399 Speaker 1: And before I knew it, I was being ripped out 532 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:13,480 Speaker 1: of this love soup and flying through space, and with 533 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:17,560 Speaker 1: everything that I had in me, I felt myself saying, 534 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:23,800 Speaker 1: I take it back. But I was on my way 535 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:28,080 Speaker 1: to get trained on what to do in this lifetime 536 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:33,040 Speaker 1: in places that I would call schools or Crystal City, 537 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:39,400 Speaker 1: just things that you don't hear about. But imagine, imagine 538 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,239 Speaker 1: if I was a type of person to keep this 539 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:46,200 Speaker 1: side of my life on the darker side and just 540 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,800 Speaker 1: let it sit there, I would be a totally different person. 541 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:54,640 Speaker 1: But when people ask me, why would Jesus show up 542 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:58,680 Speaker 1: to you? Why would that happen to you? Like I'm like, hey, 543 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:04,239 Speaker 1: I don't feel like on anybody special, But to say 544 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 1: that I don't recall why he might have shown up. 545 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,160 Speaker 1: I think it might have something to do with this 546 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:16,600 Speaker 1: memory that I had of the spinning light. And the 547 00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:21,400 Speaker 1: spinning light was so familiar to me. This whole place, 548 00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:25,759 Speaker 1: everything about it, it was so familiar. It was like, 549 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,480 Speaker 1: how can I forget this place? How can I forget 550 00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 1: what I'm here for. It's like forgetting my first name 551 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:39,040 Speaker 1: is Heidi, Like that just seems so ridiculous, to forget 552 00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:43,160 Speaker 1: who I am. And you know what was really hard. 553 00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,880 Speaker 1: I'm standing in the middle of my living room still 554 00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,080 Speaker 1: and I come back to my body with this whole 555 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:53,640 Speaker 1: understanding about why I'm here, and I go to sit 556 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:55,279 Speaker 1: down on my foot on and I'm saying, how can 557 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,040 Speaker 1: I forget? How can I forget? How can I forget? 558 00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 1: And my friends like forget what? And I'm like, forget 559 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:07,759 Speaker 1: who I am and why I've come here. And from 560 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:12,160 Speaker 1: that point forward, it was really difficult for me to 561 00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:17,400 Speaker 1: want to stay in college and become this best little 562 00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:22,120 Speaker 1: therapist that a person could be. I just didn't want 563 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,560 Speaker 1: to go through that. I knew what I'd come here for, 564 00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:28,400 Speaker 1: and it didn't involve being a therapist. It didn't involve 565 00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:32,279 Speaker 1: being a cartoonist, didn't involve anything. But what it did 566 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:35,960 Speaker 1: involve was matters of the soul, opening up the eyes 567 00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:40,120 Speaker 1: of people and knowing how to deal with this dark 568 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:44,239 Speaker 1: presence here on this planet, and how to reach our 569 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:48,160 Speaker 1: full human potential and get our faith back. All of 570 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:51,960 Speaker 1: this in preparation for the secret war we now find 571 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:56,680 Speaker 1: ourselves in the middle of. You guys, you are listening 572 00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,919 Speaker 1: to the Darker Side of Life with me Heidi Holla 573 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,080 Speaker 1: on the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast, a 574 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:12,920 Speaker 1: paranormal podcast network, and we'll be right back. 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And now back 594 00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:55,279 Speaker 1: to Heidi Hollis and The Darker Side of Life. Welcome back. 595 00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,520 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Darker Side of Life with me, 596 00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,200 Speaker 1: Heidi Hollis on the I Heart Radio and Coast to 597 00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:08,360 Speaker 1: Coast AM Paranormal podcast Network. Please remember to go to 598 00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:13,160 Speaker 1: my main website, which is Heidi Hollis dot com and 599 00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:17,000 Speaker 1: send me your stories, your comments, your questions about anything 600 00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:20,200 Speaker 1: out of the ordinary and we'll flesh it out here 601 00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:23,160 Speaker 1: on the show. And if you'd like to come on 602 00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:26,759 Speaker 1: this program to discuss and share about whatever it is 603 00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:32,920 Speaker 1: that you've experienced, from the holy to the unholy, from aliens, ghosts, 604 00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:37,880 Speaker 1: shadow people, hat man, this show is all about you, 605 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:42,719 Speaker 1: about bringing things that are less spoken of on the 606 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:46,040 Speaker 1: darker side of life and bringing it into the light. 607 00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:52,240 Speaker 1: And also please feel free to subscribe on I Heart 608 00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:56,399 Speaker 1: Radio to the darker side of life. There's so many 609 00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,120 Speaker 1: things that make us up for who we are, isn't 610 00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:02,880 Speaker 1: it something? I know that these are not topics that 611 00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:06,239 Speaker 1: I generally get the opportunity to speak of on a 612 00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:10,440 Speaker 1: lot of different radio shows because I'm the Shadow People lady, 613 00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:15,320 Speaker 1: I'm the hat Man definer. I have these two major 614 00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:19,880 Speaker 1: paranormal phenomena that I've put out to the world, and 615 00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:23,960 Speaker 1: and people love the spooky stuff. They love to get 616 00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:28,279 Speaker 1: terrified about whatever it is that's going bump in the night. 617 00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:34,840 Speaker 1: But there's another flip side to all of this, and 618 00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:39,480 Speaker 1: we need to feed the more positive than the negative. Sure, 619 00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:43,400 Speaker 1: I understand the curiosity when it comes to the Shadow 620 00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,799 Speaker 1: People and the hat Man phenomena because it is so widespread, 621 00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:49,759 Speaker 1: it's affecting a lot of people, and it's harming a 622 00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:53,960 Speaker 1: lot of people. It's messing with their souls, it's messing 623 00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:57,360 Speaker 1: with their sleep, it's messing with their families, their consciousness, 624 00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:01,520 Speaker 1: everything on every level. So I in it. One of 625 00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:03,400 Speaker 1: the first lines that I get in a lot of 626 00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:07,640 Speaker 1: my emails is I just met the devil. I don't 627 00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:11,400 Speaker 1: get into that religious stuff, but I just met the devil. 628 00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,759 Speaker 1: What do I do about it? Am? I hold I 629 00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:19,399 Speaker 1: you recognize that as the devil. That's biblical stuff, that's 630 00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:24,080 Speaker 1: religious stuff. Why is it so hard for us to 631 00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:29,400 Speaker 1: come to this understanding that having an opposing force to 632 00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:36,480 Speaker 1: something so easily evil? It's okay, I'm Christian. We call 633 00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:40,840 Speaker 1: that opposing force Jesus. I know him to be true 634 00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:44,000 Speaker 1: and real because of the experiences and encounters that I 635 00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:47,000 Speaker 1: had that I just shared with you. I never would 636 00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:54,879 Speaker 1: have anticipated, even after having had the source encounter memory reflection, 637 00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:58,879 Speaker 1: I would never anticipate that Jesus would pop up later, never, 638 00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:03,800 Speaker 1: but he did. And I trust my gut, I trust 639 00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:09,560 Speaker 1: my instincts, I trust my heart because when this man 640 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:15,640 Speaker 1: Jesus showed up, the love hit me so hard. It 641 00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:20,400 Speaker 1: was beyond moving. It's hard to describe to have loved 642 00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:24,840 Speaker 1: tickles from the inside out that just explode into this 643 00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:31,080 Speaker 1: level that it's not human, that's not human. I've had 644 00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,560 Speaker 1: so many people say, well, did you question the spirit? 645 00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:37,040 Speaker 1: And I tell people I could have been blind and 646 00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:41,280 Speaker 1: seeing who it was, because every cell in my body screamed, 647 00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:46,640 Speaker 1: it's Jesus. Not a tough one there, so to test him. No, 648 00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:51,400 Speaker 1: But I got tested because soon after I saw him, 649 00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:56,719 Speaker 1: I had another encounter and it was absolutely immediate, was 650 00:46:56,840 --> 00:47:01,600 Speaker 1: absolutely evil, and it tried to at me to denounce 651 00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:05,320 Speaker 1: or even slightly questioned what it was that I experienced 652 00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:10,239 Speaker 1: when I saw Jesus. And let me tell you the 653 00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:13,280 Speaker 1: creepy crawley feeling that hits me when I think about 654 00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:15,399 Speaker 1: that encounter, I try not to give it so much 655 00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:22,440 Speaker 1: attention because it was so disturbing. But I learned later 656 00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:27,719 Speaker 1: that others told me about that people who have the 657 00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:33,719 Speaker 1: opposing encounter immediately after having a Jesus encounter proves even 658 00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:36,400 Speaker 1: more so that it was Jesus that I met. I 659 00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:40,600 Speaker 1: don't need that explanation to know who it was that 660 00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:45,160 Speaker 1: I experienced. I know who it was, and it's because 661 00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:49,240 Speaker 1: of him that I have had the nerve to even 662 00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:52,759 Speaker 1: come out to speak about any of these things. So 663 00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:56,280 Speaker 1: I I was already done with my book The Secret 664 00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:59,840 Speaker 1: War when Jesus came. I was just editing it, hoping 665 00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:04,080 Speaker 1: to find a publisher, and still having that absolute fear 666 00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:07,560 Speaker 1: of speaking in the public about any of this stuff. 667 00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:10,560 Speaker 1: But when Jesus told me he would give me the 668 00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:16,000 Speaker 1: words not to worry, that is what gave me the 669 00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:19,920 Speaker 1: courage to go out and start doing radio shows, speaking 670 00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:25,520 Speaker 1: at different conferences and conventions, and here I am. One 671 00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:28,360 Speaker 1: of the big things for people who write a book, 672 00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,880 Speaker 1: don't know, is if you don't have the nerve to 673 00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,680 Speaker 1: talk about your book, you're not going to go very far. 674 00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:39,719 Speaker 1: And people who write books are generally introverts, right, kind 675 00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:44,919 Speaker 1: of hard to be a high energy, boisterous person and 676 00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:49,279 Speaker 1: have so many hours to yourself doing this one thing, 677 00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:54,440 Speaker 1: tap tap tapping on your computer to express yourself clearly. 678 00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:58,880 Speaker 1: So here I am. I'm pretty much an introvert who 679 00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:01,560 Speaker 1: has that balance of knowing when to step out of 680 00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:04,600 Speaker 1: my shell as well, but still not having the nerve 681 00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:08,120 Speaker 1: to speak up. Though I was never shy to talk 682 00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:12,680 Speaker 1: about my paranormal or odd encounters. Not on a stage. 683 00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:16,200 Speaker 1: That's a whole other ball game, a whole other ball game. 684 00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:21,520 Speaker 1: So yeah, all these different things have made me who 685 00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:26,239 Speaker 1: I am today. Now, you as an individual who are 686 00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:30,520 Speaker 1: sitting there on the other side of this podcast listening 687 00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:33,640 Speaker 1: to my words, going, well, I've had weird stuff happened 688 00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:36,719 Speaker 1: to or me too with this, or me too with 689 00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:41,640 Speaker 1: that great step out of your shell. Tell at least 690 00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:46,640 Speaker 1: one other person. It's so important. If I was just 691 00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:50,600 Speaker 1: sitting there on the other side of a podcast, yeah, 692 00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:53,360 Speaker 1: I'd probably tell a couple of people, But there's no 693 00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:57,440 Speaker 1: way I would have reached a global audience and warned 694 00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:01,080 Speaker 1: them about shadow people and hat Man and this war 695 00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:05,680 Speaker 1: that we're in the middle of. No way. And I 696 00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:08,960 Speaker 1: cannot tell you how grateful and humbled I am that 697 00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:13,360 Speaker 1: people trust me to reach out to share about their experiences. 698 00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:17,239 Speaker 1: I do not take it for granted, and I keep 699 00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:21,640 Speaker 1: hoping every time I answer an email or give any 700 00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:25,799 Speaker 1: bit of advice about any of these things that I'm 701 00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:30,640 Speaker 1: doing the right thing. Nobody is perfect and nobody has 702 00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:35,319 Speaker 1: all the answers. This is how and where we pull 703 00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:41,080 Speaker 1: these strings together to weave our stories together and find 704 00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:46,200 Speaker 1: the path and to know and have more certainty about 705 00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:50,400 Speaker 1: what the answer is. Some of the stories I hear, 706 00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:55,280 Speaker 1: especially when it comes to the holy encounters, the angelic encounters, 707 00:50:55,280 --> 00:51:00,319 Speaker 1: that Jesus encounters, even some have merry encounters. If you 708 00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:05,160 Speaker 1: could believe one of those stories with all that you are, 709 00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:11,280 Speaker 1: it could change so much in your world because wow, 710 00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:17,440 Speaker 1: something like that exists. Then when people are met with 711 00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:20,160 Speaker 1: what they know is the devil, it surely wouldn't be 712 00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:23,279 Speaker 1: hard for them to know that God is real too, 713 00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:27,319 Speaker 1: and he's here to put his foot in the backside 714 00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:30,360 Speaker 1: of this dark stuff that's disrupting your sleep, your dreams, 715 00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:35,080 Speaker 1: your family, your life, your goals, your mission, because that's 716 00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:40,080 Speaker 1: what they're trying to do. We cannot leave the darker 717 00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:45,600 Speaker 1: side of our experiences, our lives in the paranormal closets 718 00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:48,799 Speaker 1: any longer. We cannot. We have to kick those doors down. 719 00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:53,880 Speaker 1: We have to open our minds and our mouths equally 720 00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:59,720 Speaker 1: about what is going on in our lives. Hat Man 721 00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:05,160 Speaker 1: loves to go after people who are gifted. More often 722 00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:09,360 Speaker 1: than not, he will tell you he's the devil himself. 723 00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:13,879 Speaker 1: Why is that? Why is he so proud to say 724 00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:18,000 Speaker 1: who he is or to admit that emotion that that's 725 00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:22,279 Speaker 1: who he is. He loves the fear. He loves that 726 00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:26,320 Speaker 1: it weakens people to go on bended knee in front 727 00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:30,359 Speaker 1: of him in terror. And when they just can't take 728 00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:34,680 Speaker 1: the terror anymore and they give up, he'll sometimes punch 729 00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:37,160 Speaker 1: his fist through their chest and rip their soul out, 730 00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:40,680 Speaker 1: laughing at them. And then other times he's like, wow, 731 00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:45,359 Speaker 1: this isn't fun anymore. He just leaves you. It's when 732 00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:49,480 Speaker 1: he decides it's time to pick your soul. It's like 733 00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:54,920 Speaker 1: a ripe fruit for him. The opposing force is looking 734 00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:59,160 Speaker 1: to build you up and to help you recognize your 735 00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:02,680 Speaker 1: human potential. There's so much more to who we are. 736 00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:09,560 Speaker 1: Humans are able to experience things that are beyond today's 737 00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:14,160 Speaker 1: regular belief. Okay, I learned something really cool. I'm not Catholic, 738 00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:17,680 Speaker 1: but I learned something really cool about saints and superheroes. 739 00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:20,080 Speaker 1: Did you know that the superheroes that fly through the 740 00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:24,920 Speaker 1: sky were based on saints that could levitate. Because things 741 00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:28,960 Speaker 1: like this have been witnessed in history, we had the 742 00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:35,600 Speaker 1: imagination to come up with comics that could illustrate the possibilities. 743 00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:42,680 Speaker 1: The possibilities of humankind are endless, and we just have 744 00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:47,279 Speaker 1: to accept that we have so many layers that we 745 00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:52,040 Speaker 1: need to explore through meditation, prayer, exploration of the body, soul, 746 00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:55,800 Speaker 1: and mind. And when we do that and we look 747 00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:59,640 Speaker 1: at the way that life goes for us. We're born here, 748 00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:02,440 Speaker 1: we have memories of anything, and we don't know what 749 00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:04,760 Speaker 1: we're actually doing. We try to form a life and 750 00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:06,920 Speaker 1: we go to school, or we don't go to school 751 00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:08,800 Speaker 1: and we get a job and we have a family. 752 00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:13,640 Speaker 1: Were like, what is this all about? Imagine if we 753 00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:15,840 Speaker 1: knew what it was about, if we could remember a 754 00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:20,399 Speaker 1: prior lifetime, if we could build upon our memories from 755 00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:26,560 Speaker 1: other lifetimes. It's like, you lived a thousand years. Death 756 00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:31,000 Speaker 1: was never meant to happen here? What is that? Physical death? 757 00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:35,120 Speaker 1: Is a spiritual death? That's something that we need to 758 00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:39,080 Speaker 1: explore because if darkness is here and it's blocking our path, 759 00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:42,840 Speaker 1: what happens when it's not here? Do we live longer? 760 00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:46,600 Speaker 1: Do we live forever? I say, we live a lot 761 00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:51,480 Speaker 1: differently and indeed longer, and we get to keep our 762 00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:55,640 Speaker 1: memories from prior lifetimes and evolved. Really think about that? 763 00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:59,720 Speaker 1: All right? This has been another episode of The Darker 764 00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:02,560 Speaker 1: so of Life with me Heidi Hollis on the I 765 00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:06,560 Speaker 1: Heart Radio and Coast to Coast, a paranormal podcast network. 766 00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:19,319 Speaker 1: It will catch you next time. Stay safe, everybody. Well, 767 00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:22,200 Speaker 1: if you like this episode of the Darker Side of Life, 768 00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:25,360 Speaker 1: wait till you hear the next one. Thank you for 769 00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:28,240 Speaker 1: listening to the I Heart Radio and Coast to coast, 770 00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:30,680 Speaker 1: a m paranormal podcast network.