1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: Oh, a good time of my Steve Plasterer done tokstie 2 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 1: took time to time. Welcome everybody. Welcome to the home 3 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 1: of the five and one Buffalo Bills. Welcome to Orchard 4 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: Partney or a rainy day here, you're if you're watching 5 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: on the MSG feed, you gotta look at rainy New 6 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 1: Era Field. But that's all right, that's all right. I 7 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: haven't even looked at the weather on Sunday. When you're 8 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 1: five and one, every day is a sunny day. Serious 9 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 1: weather doesn't even bother me. It's it's a little chilly today. 10 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 1: We had great weather Sunday and uh actually Saturday, Sunday 11 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 1: and Monday yesterday. Now we get take a turn for 12 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: the worst. But I'm not feeling at Steve, Steve Tasker, 13 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: John Murphy. Here in our studio, the one in the 14 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 1: Seneca studio inside, the early reports are fifty six and 15 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 1: sunny for Sunday. I mean, no, fifty six and rainy 16 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: for Sunday. When you're five and one, every day is 17 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: a sunny day. So do you feel like that a 18 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: little bit? It's pretty rain it's pretty rainy in New 19 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: York today. The Jets are feeling it today Oh yeah, 20 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 1: they're that game last night. We'll talk about that game tonight. 21 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: We'll talk about the Bills. We'll talk up a little 22 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 1: bit about the Eagles. They've got a little issue issue 23 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: going on and some we'll talk about it as the 24 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 1: show moves along. Welcome to the show. We're here until three. 25 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: John Murphy and Steve Task are happy to have you 26 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: with us here on a day when the Bills are 27 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: five and one and the Tuesday off to day off 28 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: of the players, no day off for us. We got 29 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: Kyle Brandt joining us today at one o'clock from the 30 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:27,759 Speaker 1: NFL Network, the co host of Good Morning Football. He's 31 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: got a lot of good things to say about the 32 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: NFL and the Bills and his nephew, Andrew Brandt. Now 33 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: I don't think they're related, Andrew Brant, no relation, do that. 34 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: Andrew Brandt joins us a little bit later on on 35 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: the one o'clock hour. He is the business of the NFL. 36 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: We'll talk about the current CBA negotiations. He's got some 37 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: interesting thoughts on the Dolphins tank position. Andrew brand joining 38 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: us a little bit later on at one. Plenty of 39 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: time for you to discuss some plenty of time for 40 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: us to discuss the bills and the NFL. I am 41 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: upbeat today today, Steve. I spent last night but good 42 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: chuck last night with Eric Wood and his Flights and 43 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: Bytes event at five hundred Pearl Downtown Buffalo. Good crowd there. 44 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 1: Eric's done this now for several years, raising money for 45 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: the Eric would fund part of Oshide Children's Hospital. Great 46 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: folks from the hospital there, great fans there. Most of 47 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 1: our radio team was there, Salcapacho, our producer Greg Harvey. 48 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 1: Eric was great, taking pictures, shaking hands, got up and 49 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: sang with the with the band A little bit good 50 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: night and good money raised for Oshide Children's Hospital. I'm 51 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 1: glad I was able to do that for a little 52 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 1: bit less night I was. Eric invited me and my 53 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 1: wife to them up. We couldn't do. We were out 54 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 1: with family and friends. We were out and we had, 55 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: you know, the a lot of family in from out 56 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: of town. They and they're they're here and we're gonna 57 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 1: go to the hockey game tonight, and uh so that's 58 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: you know on it. Then we went out and got 59 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:40,079 Speaker 1: wings last night at a place in the A. I 60 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: want to be a guest of the task or something. 61 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: I want the task us to say, will you come 62 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 1: and stay with us for the weekend? Tell our listeners 63 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: what you've done to These people are great people I met, 64 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 1: they were wonderful. Yeah, but basically they've had the guy 65 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: the Royal Tour of Buffalo in western New York. Since 66 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 1: what Friday, they've been everywhere. No, yeah, you started Friday 67 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: at that concent They got in one day the friday 68 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: they got on Wednesday. Yeah, they got in Wednesday and 69 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:06,679 Speaker 1: went we went to dinner, just the parents and I 70 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 1: and my wife and the parents of your daughter's girlfriend 71 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: from Alaska, right and her and her boyfriend, his parents, 72 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: and a friend of my daughter who's a female firefighter 73 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: from Anchorage. UM. And then of course all my kids 74 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 1: were in town and all the spouses and grandkids were 75 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: in town. So we had the end so we all 76 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: got together. They they started happening in last Wednesday, and 77 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: then right so Friday, we went to Lake Street Dive concert, 78 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: which is a band out of New York. They five 79 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: person banded great concert in Bayville, right downtown on Delaware. UH, 80 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: in the church that's been renovated of course, and then 81 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: that was a phenomenal concert. UH. That night the next day, 82 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: the Hamilton Tiger Cats had a home game against the 83 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: Ottawa Redblacks and one thirty two to twelve place for 84 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: the tie Cats. He did in this game, he's got 85 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: he's got a hammy he's coming back from. But we 86 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: went to the game U thirty two to twelve they had. 87 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: It was the thirteenth win of the franchise, the franchise 88 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: record for a single season. And in regular season, they've 89 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: got two games left they could set the record, but 90 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: they already have. So they won their thirteenth game of 91 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: the year. They got home field advantage throughout the playoffs 92 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 1: with that win. And uh so that's that happened on Saturday. 93 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 1: So it was this concert on Friday, the Handling Tire 94 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: Cat game on Saturday, and of course it was an 95 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: all day affair at New air of Field. We were 96 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: there all day, all day, all day, winded up, we 97 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: ended up around the winter up around the fire pit, 98 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: interacting with other fans at the eight Yeah, so so 99 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 1: we had then we had that you know, we're you 100 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:42,239 Speaker 1: know at the one o'clock game. Isn't awesome, right because 101 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: you get home it's pretty early in the evening, right, 102 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 1: So we got home we had the we had the 103 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: fire pit going and we had the the brown water 104 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 1: was flowing and Victory cigars and all that all through 105 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 1: it into the you know, into the night. So we 106 00:04:56,800 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 1: had that going on Sunday night. Um. Yeah. Then yesterday 107 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: was the day off. They all went. They actually went 108 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: to the Niagara Fall and to Niagara Falls. Yesterday they 109 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 1: went to Niagara Falls, went to Viddler's you know over 110 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: in Eau. We had seven Wonders of the World exactly 111 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: two of the West. Yeah. And then uh, last night 112 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 1: we got the big wing thing. Ye uh. And tonight 113 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: we're going to the Sabers Sharks teams they're all from 114 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: they're all from Alaska, so they're West Coast time zone, 115 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 1: so they kind of have to be fans of the 116 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,840 Speaker 1: West Coast sports team because they can't sure right, So 117 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 1: they're big San Jose Shark fans. They were Jerseys in 118 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: the whole nine yards. So and the last time they 119 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 1: were here was the Sharks game Sabers game. Sharks go 120 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: out four to one on the Sabers and it's like, 121 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: you know, and they were loving it. And then in 122 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 1: the third period, Sabers come back boom boom boom, it's 123 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: four to four overtime. Boom sabers went five four over 124 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: time against the shark. So these Alaskans in your family 125 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:57,160 Speaker 1: were talking about a group of what eight to ten 126 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: to twelve. Uh, well, here's the thing. My daughter's boyfriend 127 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 1: is one of five children. He's second oldest. My daughter 128 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: is one of five children, she's second oldest. So the 129 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: families are fairly substantial when they get together. And but 130 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: this is only hint. It's only a friend of the 131 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 1: family from Alaska, and then the parents. There's only four 132 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 1: or five of them with between my daughter from Alaska. 133 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: If you ever get a chance to be invited by 134 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 1: the Taskers and they'll stay at the house, Yeah, well 135 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 1: yeah that too, right, say yes, yes, you could sell 136 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 1: that the Western New York Weekend Tasker package. Right, we'll 137 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 1: go to a couple of games, we'll go to a concert. 138 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: We'll get you the best wings in the world. Come 139 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:37,559 Speaker 1: visit us, the Taskers, and come on, I could market 140 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: this for you viddlers. Yeah, we're also bar hopped a 141 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 1: little last night, which, by the way, if you're gonna 142 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: go you I defy, I defy the human spirit to 143 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: go to Easter roor and try and do a pub 144 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 1: crawl in Easter or you can't get it done. You cannot, 145 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: you cannot. I don't even in a twenty four hour 146 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: period even, you know, like you started. Is that why 147 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: you're a little logan today? No? No, I actually feel 148 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 1: good today. I was. I'm on it man, I'm a pro. 149 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: You know. So there's there's litterally literally too many establishments 150 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: in that small town to town and village combined. But 151 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 1: we you know, we hit one or two. There's a 152 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 1: new spot over there that we went to last night 153 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: that is really unbelievable. It's really nice. So yeah, it was. 154 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: And then we went home started watching the Monday night 155 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 1: football game like, wow, I can go to bed early. Yeah, 156 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: me too, because that was Sam Darnold. Is that he 157 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: was turning over like it was his job. Yeah, why 158 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: it was bad? You think about it. We are this 159 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: is almost a Twitter poll. You look at the twenty 160 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: eighteen quarterback draft class. Now it's Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen 161 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: and the rest of them. Yep, and a bunch of 162 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: guys and guys. Yeah, it was bad. I came home 163 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: from Eric Woods Baker, Sam and Josh Stink. Yeah, Josh 164 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 1: Rosen Bakers. Okay, Josh Rosen Is clearly hasn't hit his 165 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: stride yet. And Sam Darnald a week after beating the 166 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 1: Cowboys and being impressive in his victory or the Cowboys, Yeah, 167 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: he looked all. I still he still like Sam. I mean, 168 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: Sam's gonna be a good play Baker. I'm not writing 169 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: off yet either. And Josh Rosen, we still don't know. 170 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: But still today, if you're gonna gloat, it's pretty easy 171 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: to gloat, you know, well it was just awful. I mean, 172 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 1: and I'll tell you what I find fault. I'm not 173 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: an Adam Gays fan, and I think he let Rosen. 174 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: He hung him out to dry last night. Look look 175 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: at the Bill's Patriots game. You know they're doing stuff 176 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: on defense. The Bill struggled with it. What Buffalo scored 177 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: ten points against the Patriots defense, But Josh Allen scores 178 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 1: made points against the Patriot defense as Tom Brady did 179 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: against the Buffalo defense. There was that block punt for 180 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 1: touchdowns a difference. Yeah, So there they are an unusual 181 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: tough defense to play against. And I don't think Sam 182 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:43,079 Speaker 1: don Old had any help at all from his so 183 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 1: called quarterback whisperer yesterday and their defense didn't give any 184 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: help either. Now, the defense struggled, coughed up. Allen was 185 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:52,439 Speaker 1: just off And look, I know, just like Josh, he's 186 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: looking at stuff he hasn't seen before, right, looking at 187 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: the coverages, looking at the um pressure packages that they 188 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: you know they have the ability change on the fly. 189 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: But he's just throwing it up for grabs several times yesterday. 190 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 1: That was ridiculous. Last night, Wow, it was Look, I'm 191 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 1: not look at the draft pick yet. And we've seen 192 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:13,319 Speaker 1: we've seen Sam Donald and some of his best performances, 193 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: including against the Buffalo Bills that was his worst last night. 194 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: I wouldn't write him off and like worry about moving 195 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:21,719 Speaker 1: on from him, But I blame coaches. You got to 196 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: give him a better chance. You gotta give him a 197 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 1: better chance against the defense that you know is coming. 198 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 1: You know they're coming after him. You know they're gonna 199 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: be trying to make him look bad, and they did. 200 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 1: You got to do more for your your your young quarterback, 201 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 1: if you're if you're you know the quarterback whisperer gaze, 202 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: and he did nothing for him. Yeah, and I yeah, 203 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:43,079 Speaker 1: they've got some they've got some issues. And I know 204 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,719 Speaker 1: this too, and it's a week to week league that 205 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:48,599 Speaker 1: the Jets looked awesome last week against the Cowboys. And 206 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: the Cowboys I think are a pretty competitive team at least, 207 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: if not a good team. Uh, they looked really good. 208 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 1: They went in there and they beat him good in 209 00:09:57,600 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: on the road in Dallas. So the Jets have still 210 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 1: got a little something under the hood, are you sure? Yeah, 211 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: I think they do. I mean, it was a bad 212 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 1: night last night, but we've seen our quarterback have a 213 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: bad night. I've never seen Jets play like that. Now 214 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: he's never played. He's done some things like that, but 215 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:16,599 Speaker 1: not all in one game. That's true. And again I 216 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: go back to coaching, you know, by the way, So 217 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:21,719 Speaker 1: now Sam Darnold will live with this the rest of 218 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: his career until something dramatic happens. I'm seeing ghosts, he said. 219 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: They had him miked up. ESPN miked up the Jets 220 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: starting quarterback in this kind of an important game against 221 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: the Patriots miked up and he goes to the sideline. Now, look, 222 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:35,599 Speaker 1: he's not you, and I say I'm seeing ghost That 223 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 1: means one thing for a quarterback looking at the defense 224 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: when he says, I'm seeing ghosts. He says, I think 225 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 1: I'm reading something which is not quite there. That's exactly 226 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:45,959 Speaker 1: what he means, right, Yeah, but it comes off as 227 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: I'm spooked, I'm seeing ghosts. Now he's miked up, which 228 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 1: why would they might come up with that game? I 229 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: have known somebody needs to be fired in the Jets. 230 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 1: Who's in the Jets organization thinks they're I mean, they 231 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: must be drunk over that Cowboy win because they were like, yeah, 232 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: let's Mike Josh up against the Patriot Defense. This will 233 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 1: be awesome. Are you crazy? He says, I'm seeing ghosts 234 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: and he will live with that now forever. Right he 235 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 1: looks a gift. Yeah, it's a jiff for a gift, 236 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 1: whatever you want to say it, it's a I'm seeing ghosts. 237 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:17,079 Speaker 1: He needs help. Look, I like Donald a lot. We've 238 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 1: talked about him a lot, we like him a lot, 239 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: a hugely good player. But it was, hopefully for him, 240 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: a career low last night, and that phrase I'm seeing 241 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 1: ghost is gonna stick with him for a while. Thank 242 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: you very much, Jets, you know, media relations, for allowing 243 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: that to happen, And thank you very much Adam Gaze 244 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:34,319 Speaker 1: for just kind of throwing him to the Wolves. In 245 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 1: that game last night, they had Am miked up. There 246 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:38,079 Speaker 1: was one part I turned him off at halftime. It 247 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: was so bad it was unwatchable. One point, they show 248 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: a micd up segment with Adam Gaze saying to him, 249 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: you're gonna be all right right, You're gonna be all 250 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 1: right right. Really, that's the best you can do. Why 251 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 1: didn't you do that on Tuesday getting ready for the game. 252 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:50,559 Speaker 1: Why don't you get him ready to play against that 253 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: unusual defensive look the Patriots were giving him? It was 254 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: I thought it was a really malfeasance on the part 255 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: of the Jets coaches, and Donald paid the price. He 256 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 1: was awful, and Joshon never played anything remotely resembling that 257 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: poorly in a game. I agree. I listen, we all 258 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:09,319 Speaker 1: you and I both. It was a bad night for 259 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 1: Sam Darnold. He's on his second head coach, his second 260 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, in his second year. He's in the first 261 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 1: half of his second year against the maybe as what 262 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:24,959 Speaker 1: looks to be a historically good, statistically speaking, defense in 263 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:29,079 Speaker 1: the New England Patriots. Who Mike's that guy up in 264 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:36,599 Speaker 1: that situation? That is absolute that's craziness. It's crazy, and 265 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 1: there's nothing good that's going to come out. And I 266 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:43,439 Speaker 1: get it on the wild chance that Sam has a 267 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 1: good day or turns into a good game. What are 268 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: you doing? What are you doing? Crazy? I mean, it's 269 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 1: gonna listen. I'll tell you this right now. I don't 270 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: I don't even I haven't even looked. But there's a 271 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: there's an axiom in football. You don't let one cost 272 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, you don't let one loss count for two. 273 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 1: You don't let this game count hit you so hard 274 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: that you're gonna cost you two game. That game is 275 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: gonna They're gonna have a hangover this week. I don't 276 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 1: know who. I haven't even looked at who the Jet 277 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: Who the Jets play? Let me look at who the 278 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 1: Jets are gonna play this next week, and it's gonna 279 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: be the New York Jets are playing the Jaguars. You 280 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: look out, because the Jaggars will come in and hit 281 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: him in the mouth. They're at Jacksonville. This loss could 282 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 1: hit him so hard. It could. I mean, because it's 283 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:36,839 Speaker 1: an embarrassing loss on national TV. When you were when 284 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 1: you started to like flex your muscles and say you 285 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 1: know our quarterback was out with mono for a minute. 286 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: Now we got them back. Now we're looking great. Now 287 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 1: we're gonna go. You know, we're gonna at the Cowboys. 288 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: We're gonna beat the Cowboys. Yet all of that stuff, Man, man, 289 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 1: what are you doing this? Don't let this loss count 290 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 1: for two. If I'm the Jets players, man, you gotta 291 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 1: look at the Jaggars say, man, what are we gonna 292 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 1: do against that defense? You're the Jets pay you gotta 293 00:13:57,679 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: look at your coaching staff and say, what are we doing? 294 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: What are we doing? Why is our quarterback miked up? 295 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 1: Why don't we have a better plan to at least 296 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: nurse him through that tough defense. Look, the Bills didn't 297 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 1: have any success either, much success either offensively against the Patriots, 298 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: but they weren't undressed. They weren't embarrassed by the Patriots defense. 299 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: They hung in there, thanks in large part the Buffalo strunk. 300 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 1: The Bills have been undressed once in a while by 301 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: that team. Everybody had. That's a long list of quarterbacks 302 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: who have looked terrible against the New England Patriots. Let's 303 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: face it, everybody looks bad against the Patriots for some 304 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 1: time at some point, and Sam Darnold joins them today, 305 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 1: and Josh Allen didn't have his best game against them 306 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 1: two three weeks ago, four weeks ago. Either it's a 307 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 1: tough defense. You don't set yourself up like that. I 308 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: mean that was they looked unprepared, bad coaching, bad coaching, 309 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: and I think that'll be the way. So now, and 310 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: forget for a minute for about let's talk about standings, 311 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 1: and let's not even talk about division standings, because yeah, 312 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 1: the Bills, you know, five and one, with two and 313 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 1: a half games behind the New England Patriots, and let's 314 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: face it, they get another crack of the Patriots and 315 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: anything can happen. They may win the division. But more accurately, 316 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: you look at conference standards and there's Buffalo with the 317 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 1: second best record in the conference. The Jets were supposed 318 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 1: to take that and win over the Cowboys last week 319 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: and build on it, right and maybe look good against 320 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: the Patriots a little bit, and they did not. The 321 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: Jets are way back of Chiefs at five and two, 322 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 1: Ravens at five and two, Indian four and two, and 323 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 1: the Bills have done nothing yet. I've accomplished nothing yet. 324 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: But they are in really good shape. Through the first 325 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 1: third of the season with the second best record in 326 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: the AFC, and that's an accomplishment. Here's the thing too, 327 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: that gets me about this the Jets and pay and 328 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 1: from Bills fans who don't keep track of this. The 329 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 1: Jets and Patriots have played once this year already. They 330 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: played right before the Jet by week in Week three. 331 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: That was their second matchup. Yeah, it was that last 332 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 1: night they'd seen each other. I mean, so it's not 333 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: like the Jets were like had nothing to go by, right, Yeah, awful, 334 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: just awful. So that's the last night's game, and the 335 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: Bills don't see the Jets again until the season is over, 336 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 1: and they wait until late in the season before they 337 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 1: see the Patriots again. They got the Dolphins about four 338 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: and a half five weeks away, but they have bigger 339 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: fish to fry, including the Philadelphia Eagles. We got to 340 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 1: talk a little bit about the Eagles, Steve, and it 341 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: was interesting to note the Eagles had a really difficult loss. 342 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 1: They're not even in it on Sunday when they played 343 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 1: at Dallas against the Cowboys. And we know the Cowboys 344 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: are not world beaters, but they certainly looked at when 345 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: they when they beat up on the Eagles, and Eagles 346 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 1: come out of that game with all sorts of turmoil. Right, 347 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: did you catch any of this? I read some notes 348 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: last night, began to do a little bit of homework. 349 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 1: There's talk about a leak inside the Philadelphia Eagles locker room. 350 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 1: Believe it or not, I'm gonna find it here. Leaking stuff. 351 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 1: Did Josina Anderson of ESPN. Apparently somebody on the Eagles 352 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: told the Josina Anderson about their doubts about their quarterback, 353 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz. She reports it as she's supposed to do, 354 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden there's all kinds of a 355 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 1: hubbub about a leak around the Philadelphia Eagles. I'm trying 356 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: to think Eskin. Howard Eskin, right, sideline reporter. We had 357 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 1: him on the show. He says he knows who the 358 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 1: league is. He says he knows exactly who it is, 359 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:06,400 Speaker 1: and he was I'm trying to find who I think 360 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 1: he did he identify Nelson Agilar as the leaker. No, 361 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:12,880 Speaker 1: I'll shot Jeffery, jeff al Shan Jeffrey. And there's also 362 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:16,640 Speaker 1: look a little embarrassing. Last week Doug Peterson, their coach, 363 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: went on his radio show and guaranteed a victory against 364 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: the Cowboys not even close yesterday, which you know, you 365 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 1: wonder a little bit about that. He said he was 366 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 1: just trying to show faith in his team. I get it, 367 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 1: but that'll come back to on them. The point is, 368 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 1: my point is here the Eagles are in turmoil, and 369 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: it is yes of their own making, with their with 370 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 1: their losing record, but it is also fueled by a 371 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:41,640 Speaker 1: very aggressive and very alert Philadelphia media. I like those guys. 372 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 1: I think they are among the best media groups in 373 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 1: the NFL. But nothing gets by him. And when the 374 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:49,439 Speaker 1: Eagles show a crack, they jump on it. And they 375 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: have jumped on him. Now, I really think they have 376 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: jumped on him hard. And how much of a factor 377 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: is that that is that coming up this Sunday here 378 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:59,120 Speaker 1: in Buffalo. I don't know. Um, could be nothing, could 379 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: be something. Right. Teams sometimes rebound from that and kind 380 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 1: of close ranks and say, right, leave us alone, we're 381 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 1: a team. Sometimes you get better, Yeah, sometimes you fall apart. Right, 382 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 1: it's us against the it's us against the problem. You know, 383 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: it's us against you and us against the world. And 384 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:14,640 Speaker 1: it does you know, Uh, this is a little different though, 385 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 1: when somebody in the in the organization, in the locker 386 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 1: room is supposed to be spouting off and saying, hey, 387 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 1: it ain't all like good here or whatever all the 388 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 1: whatever he's saying. Uh, that's a little bit of a 389 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 1: different animal, no question, because you always feel like you 390 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 1: want your guys with you, and if somebody's not with 391 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 1: you and you don't know who it is, yeah, it's poison. Yeah, 392 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: so it's it's not good. And you know, even and 393 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 1: everybody's piling on too. Uh. You know. Radio announcers Colin 394 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 1: Calherd noted today they're eleven and ten since their Super 395 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 1: Bowl victory. You know, so they they've become a five 396 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: hundred football club pretty quick. They're injured, which is a 397 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 1: big They are very nicked up. They're very read this 398 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 1: about the Eagles. I finally found it. Uh, this is 399 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: from Enrico Campitelli. Yahoo Sports covers the Eagles, you're write. 400 00:18:57,600 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: Signs of dysfunction in the Eagles locker room began to 401 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 1: show late last week when ESPN's Josina Anderson quoted an 402 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:07,640 Speaker 1: anonymous Eagles player criticizing Carson Wentz and the offense. Head 403 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 1: coach Doug Peterson was not thrilled about it. And then 404 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 1: yesterday WIP radios, Howard Eskin, who's their sideline reporter, reported 405 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: on the air that he knew the identity of the 406 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 1: anonymous player Alshon Jeffrey. Not only did Alice Eskin name 407 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 1: al Sean, he called him foolish and stupid. Also criticized 408 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: Josina Anderson. She obeyed a guy and then the guy 409 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 1: gets trapped into same things, and he says them there 410 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:33,120 Speaker 1: was a report today that or Lane Johnson, their very 411 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 1: fine offensive lineman, says the team meeting, the next team 412 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 1: meeting will be a call out session. Everyone will be 413 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 1: held accountable. Eagles. It appears at this early juncture of 414 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 1: the season, with a you know, a losing record, not 415 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: a great record, but still not a horrible record, the 416 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: Eagles are at a critical juncture of their season. Steve 417 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: that it sounds like they're a little bit, you know, 418 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:54,439 Speaker 1: crumbling a little bit. Now does that play into how 419 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:56,959 Speaker 1: they play the game on Sunday, We'll see, But it's interesting, 420 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 1: I think and certainly a factor going into this game 421 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 1: on Sunday. Yeah, there's still I can place in the 422 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 1: NFC East. They're one game behind Dallas, so They've got 423 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: a lot to play for, and it's it's gonna be 424 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: They're gonna be fighting hard to save it because if 425 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:14,959 Speaker 1: they go down, go three and five on the year, 426 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, it's not so pretty. So you're 427 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 1: catching them. The Eagles are the Bills. They're catching them 428 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: at a time when you're gonna get another big swing 429 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: like he did against the Dolphins this last week. Now 430 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 1: the Bills weather the Dolphins big swing. But this Eagles 431 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 1: team is a lot more talented, with a lot more 432 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 1: guys on it lay games who played in big games, 433 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 1: who know how to dig deep. So you can bet 434 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 1: they're gonna do that against the Bills team this year. 435 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 1: This is a critical game for Philly and they're gonna 436 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:45,640 Speaker 1: bring everything they had can to bear on the Bills 437 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 1: this Sunday. I think this is a really tough game. Yeah, absolutely, 438 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: and the Bills will be tested for sure. But it's 439 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 1: just something to keep an eye in this week, the 440 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: reports that come out of Philadelphia, how they if they 441 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 1: and how they manage to put their act back together 442 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 1: as they get ready to play this game. And I 443 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:03,719 Speaker 1: think too Doug Peterson doesn't get enough crazy he put 444 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,880 Speaker 1: together that we team. Maybe. Yeah, he's he's put together 445 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: a super Bowl team. A guy knows a little something 446 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 1: about leadership. But you know, being a leader trying to 447 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:17,920 Speaker 1: build something is different than trying to hold something together 448 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 1: or making you know, finding, you know, trying to when 449 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: the when it's not football related, when it's relationship related, 450 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 1: when it's your players and the emotion of the team related. 451 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: He's gonna get tested this week and it's gonna be 452 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 1: I think as big a test as he's gonna come 453 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 1: to since the Super Bowl about hanging holding it together 454 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 1: with this crew, trying to get back into the playoffs 455 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: and going to going for a championship again. It's gonna 456 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 1: be a good game. We look forward to it. We 457 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 1: look forward to watching Josh Allen. We were talking earlier 458 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 1: about Sam Arnold, his buddy, and his counterpart here, of 459 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 1: course is Josh Allen. And it takes us into our 460 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 1: question of the day. It is a Twitter question, a 461 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 1: Twitter poll, kind of a A or B Twitter poll, 462 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,359 Speaker 1: and it comes about Look, it's it's pretty evident that 463 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 1: Josh Allen has the ability to lead his team back 464 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 1: from behind, right, I Mean, no one would argue that 465 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:06,159 Speaker 1: he's got five fourth quarter comebacks in two seasons now, 466 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 1: including this past Sunday against the Dolphins. He appears to 467 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 1: be clutch. He appears to be clutch. In fact, Brian Gable, 468 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,439 Speaker 1: the Bill's offensive coordinator, was asked about it yesterday. Can 469 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 1: players have a clutch gene? Here's what Brian Gable said 470 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: in response. I think there's guys that that definitely rise up, 471 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,400 Speaker 1: and Josh has done a good job to this point 472 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 1: in his short career of being able to respond in 473 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 1: adverse situations. A long way to go, but I think 474 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: his preparation and his work ethic leads to some of 475 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:50,639 Speaker 1: those things that happen later on in games, whether it 476 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: be the fourth quarter or the second half. You know, 477 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,360 Speaker 1: he's a young player that you know, he prepares himself well, 478 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 1: and when he's put in the moment, he's done a 479 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 1: good job of executing. Bill's offensive coordinator Brian Dabel, who 480 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:08,119 Speaker 1: sound almost reluctant, a reluctant to admit that Josh Allen 481 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 1: might have a bit of a clutch gene in him, 482 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 1: But I do think right he was like like he 483 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: didn't want to tell us about his favorite local restaurant. Well, 484 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 1: one reason we've found that he's got a clutch gene 485 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: because he's also got to dig a whole gene. Yeah, 486 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 1: a little bit. I'm going to dig myself a whole 487 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: gene and the first three quarters of the game. You 488 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: know what else? I like? But Dable said, and I 489 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,159 Speaker 1: think this is important to note. He can do that. 490 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: He can come from behind because he's prepared. And we 491 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: talk a lot of I've talked a lot about Josh 492 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 1: Allen's competitiveness. I think his strongest attribute. We know there's 493 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 1: stuff to work on in his game, including accuracy and 494 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 1: reading defenses, but I think his preparation is maybe underrated 495 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,400 Speaker 1: a little bit. This guy works it. He works it hard. 496 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:47,880 Speaker 1: He worked hard in the offseason. He's here most every 497 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:49,719 Speaker 1: day during the week, here today and the day off, 498 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:53,160 Speaker 1: getting ready for the game. That preparation, that week long preparation, 499 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 1: pays off when the chips around the table in the 500 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: fourth quarter. And it's five times now he's led his 501 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 1: team to fourth quarter comebacks. I think there's no question 502 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:02,160 Speaker 1: if you want to be great, you gotta be both. 503 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 1: I mean, you got to be consistent and you gotta 504 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 1: be clutch. I think Josh has shown the ability to 505 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 1: be I think he does have that clutch gene and 506 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 1: I like it. But we also think, and you and 507 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 1: I think the guy's getting better. He's getting better on 508 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 1: all fronts. He's developing, he's learning the game. He's starting 509 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:21,919 Speaker 1: to read defenses a little better, he's starting to make 510 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:26,439 Speaker 1: throws a little better. But he still has this youthful, 511 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 1: flighty enthusiasm about him that gets him into some problems 512 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 1: where he tries to make a player, he tries to 513 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: keep a play alive, or when he's got Andre Robbers 514 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:39,159 Speaker 1: behind the defense, he throws at nineteen thousand yards and 515 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 1: you know, I mean he throws it over his head. 516 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: He gotta gets excited, and I think he gets a 517 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,919 Speaker 1: little like we saw Sam Darnold in the pocket last night, 518 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:51,400 Speaker 1: just just get rid of it into a crowd kind 519 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 1: of moments that he has. And those are becoming fewer 520 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 1: and fewer. And he's starting to stand in there. You 521 00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 1: remember there were times last week and you can remember it. 522 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 1: There were plays when he stood there. His feet were solid. 523 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,120 Speaker 1: He wasn't even hopping around. He was just standing there, 524 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 1: solid on the ground, looking around. He's making a lot 525 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 1: of progress. So I think, knowing what we've seen from him, 526 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna get more and more and more consistent, 527 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: but having the I don't know if you get clutch. 528 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: I don't know if you learn that, you know, well, 529 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 1: you're taking us right into our Twitter poll for the day, 530 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: and let's let's talk about that a little bit. It's 531 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 1: simple and it's not yes no, it's either or question, 532 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,120 Speaker 1: which is okay. We try to avoid those, but not today. 533 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 1: What do you think? I think we can all agree 534 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:38,119 Speaker 1: Josh Allen has a clutch factor, right, he has the 535 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,879 Speaker 1: clutch teen five fourth quarter comebacks and what seventeen NFL starts? 536 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 1: What's more important? Is it more important for Josh Allen 537 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 1: to be clutch or to be consistent? What do you think? 538 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 1: Give us a call eight three five fifty toll free 539 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 1: one eight eight five fifty two five fifty Sending a 540 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 1: tweet We can read it on the tweet sheet. You 541 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:57,639 Speaker 1: can vote on our Twitter poll. We've got about five 542 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 1: hundred votes in already on the Twitter poll in just 543 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 1: about a half hour. What's more important Josh Hadden to 544 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 1: be clutch or be consistent? Fifty eight percent of you 545 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 1: say consistent is more important. Forty two percent say clutch 546 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 1: is more important. I've given this a little bit thought. 547 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 1: I started thinking about it this morning when I was 548 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,439 Speaker 1: writing my little article for the Buffalo Bills dot Com 549 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 1: website tomorrow. And I don't know, I don't know how 550 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 1: to answer this. I'm gonna think about it more. Maybe 551 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 1: you can sway me one way or the other. If 552 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,880 Speaker 1: you had to choose one or the other. Don't answer, see, 553 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:26,159 Speaker 1: because I want to think about it at least for 554 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 1: the next five minutes during the break. All right, Yeah, 555 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 1: you're trying to transpose it on what we already know 556 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,640 Speaker 1: he is. You want both? Yeah, you really want both? 557 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:38,439 Speaker 1: And I yeah, I mean yeah, we can. We'll talk 558 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,160 Speaker 1: about when we talk about after the break, and we'll 559 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 1: let you call in if you want as well. We'll 560 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,199 Speaker 1: talk to you about it. It's what do you think 561 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 1: really Josh really is and what would you project on 562 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,879 Speaker 1: him to have more of? Right? I mean I and 563 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 1: or do you say this is what he is? Or 564 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 1: do you say, in your perfect world, this is what 565 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 1: you want in your quarterback. There's a lot of ways 566 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 1: to look at the question. Yeah, we'll think about it. 567 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,640 Speaker 1: Do you want both? But if you had to choose 568 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 1: one or the other, and I know we we put 569 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 1: you in these positions all the time. Let us know 570 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,159 Speaker 1: what you think. Send in a tweet. We're gonna get 571 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:09,879 Speaker 1: to the tweet sheet when we come back. Give us 572 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 1: a call. The phone line's open eight three fifty two 573 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 1: three one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty 574 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 1: or outside Buffalo, No, that is outside Buffalo and Buffalo 575 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 1: it's eight o three. You can also explain your answer 576 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 1: as well, so you can give us. Give us a 577 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 1: little dissertation on why you are, why you think, what 578 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,360 Speaker 1: you think clutch or consistent? What do you want Josh 579 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 1: Allen to be? Let us know what you think. Not 580 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 1: much news here today at One Bill's Drive. Players off 581 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 1: coaches working typical Tuesday, rainy day. You're caught up and 582 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,159 Speaker 1: we got a big show coming up here with the 583 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: brands and the one o'clock our Kyle Brand from NFL 584 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 1: Network at one, followed by Andrew Brand or the Business 585 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 1: of the NFL later on at one and a lot 586 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: of time to talk with you. One Bill's Live just 587 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 1: getting started here, presented by Kalidah Health Life from the 588 00:27:51,200 --> 00:28:09,359 Speaker 1: Seneca Studio, Seneca Resorts in Casino. Nothing comes close. Welcome 589 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 1: back One Bill's Live. John Murphy Steve Tasker on a Tuesday. 590 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: Tuesday's typically the quietest day of the week. But I 591 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:16,879 Speaker 1: don't get a sense it's like that, you know what 592 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:20,159 Speaker 1: I mean? People are gelling during the good I mean, 593 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,399 Speaker 1: going on and on about who in the Jets organization 594 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 1: was the Einstein who miked up Sam Darnold Man? How 595 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 1: does that even get on the table? They're like, the 596 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 1: word is that? You know, that's great? You know, you 597 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,120 Speaker 1: can't know. We're not Mike and it turned out bad 598 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 1: for him and he's gonna have to live with that. 599 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: That you can't get out of that. I mean, why 600 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 1: don't they Let's see, we didn't hear him tom Brady 601 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 1: miked up? Are you're not gonna writ Mike up Tom Brady? 602 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 1: They go, well though, the Patriots done well, so they 603 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 1: get to make the call for us the Jets. I mean, 604 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 1: what are you kidding me? Hey, we're talking about Bill's 605 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 1: quarterback Josh Allen today and would you rather he be 606 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 1: consistent or be clutch? He looks like he's a clutch performer. 607 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 1: Obviously the Bills can use some consistent And somebody on 608 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 1: Twitter said, why do you have to choose? You know why? 609 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 1: Because we make the rules. It's our show because we're 610 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 1: gonna have fun with it, right, there's no there's no 611 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: penalty or being wrong or not wanting to answer. But 612 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 1: it's an interesting question. I think it begs discussion. So 613 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 1: the tweet sheet, let's get to the tweet. Chet Rocket 614 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 1: by Carrigan Moving Systems, the official movers of the Buffalo Bills, 615 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 1: and I want to start with this one. It's a 616 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 1: good one from Billy, he writes in on Twitter. Tyrod 617 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 1: Taylor was consistent, Mark Sanchez was consistent, Alex Smith's was consistent, 618 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 1: but none of them were clutch. I'll take clutch all day. Man. 619 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 1: That makes a lot of sense, doesn't it, doesn't it? Yeah, 620 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 1: that guy's on the Billy Bills fan almost sold me on. 621 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 1: Forget about consistently, Let's have clutch almost. I get. That's 622 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 1: a really good point. I get it, And you're right, 623 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 1: m you're gonna have to have here. Well, here's the thing. 624 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 1: What's the baseline for both of them? You gotta have 625 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: some consistency or you don't get to play right. You 626 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 1: end up being Ryan Fitzpatrick and you're going from team 627 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 1: to team riding a roller coaster and the ups keep 628 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 1: you in the league, and you're just keeping in the league. 629 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 1: But you don't have that. You have everything but the 630 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 1: clutch gene. Right, you turn into case Keenum, right, yeah, 631 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 1: you turn into I know what you mean, Trent Edwards. Yeah, 632 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 1: who's the guy, Blake Bortles, right right, Marcus Mariota Yeah, right. 633 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 1: So I mean they're consistent, but they're below a certain line, right, 634 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 1: I mean they don't not good enough. So here's what 635 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 1: So you transpose this question onto your guy, this guy, Josh, Yeah, 636 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 1: we'd like him more consistent. He's shown he's already. I can't. 637 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 1: He's kind of clutch. So do you answer the question 638 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 1: I want him more consistent because he already is clutch. 639 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:45,959 Speaker 1: Or do you say I want him clutch. I want 640 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 1: him just the way he is. I don't care if 641 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 1: he's inconsistent, because you're right, you don't have to have either. 642 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 1: Or you're right, that's absolutely right, because he is what 643 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 1: he is. He's as consistent as he is now, but 644 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 1: he's getting better. He's clutch already, that you know. That's 645 00:30:57,960 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 1: the gist of the question, right, you're thinking to give 646 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 1: it these with these head folks. He leads the National 647 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 1: Football League and fourth quarter passer rating. That's clutch. He's 648 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 1: thrown four touchdowns in the fourth quarter, He's got zero interceptions. 649 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 1: He's the guys pretty good at the clutch time. Chris 650 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 1: Brown wrote about it. By the way Buffalo bills dot 651 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 1: com bills instead A Chris Brown wrote about it. Allen 652 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 1: currently leads the league in fourth quarter passer rating with 653 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 1: one thirty nine point six. Next Coasts players Atlanta's Matt 654 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 1: Ryan one thirty point five. Houston's is Shaun Watson a 655 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 1: clutch gene? Is it there? Fourth quarters completion percentage, it's 656 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 1: about sixty nine percent of his passes yards for attempt 657 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 1: nine point seven five in the fourth quarter, leading the 658 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 1: league touchdown percentage of twelve point five percent. These are 659 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 1: the elements that go into the quarterback rating. And he 660 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 1: has four touchdown passes in the fourth quarter, no interceptions. Boom, 661 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 1: He's clutch. He's already doing it this year. Fourth quarter performance. 662 00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 1: So if we got a guy who's already clutch, says no, 663 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 1: I'll take considerin See, that's what I want him to be. 664 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 1: He already is the other So there's that way to 665 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 1: look at it. But because you know where do we 666 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,479 Speaker 1: want to Yeah, I mean, where do we want him 667 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 1: to get better? Or is it where do we think 668 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 1: he is now? Or is where if you have to 669 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 1: have one or the other, you know which is you 670 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Yeah, but don't make it more 671 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 1: difficult here. You're clouding the issue. I'm kind of yeah, 672 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 1: splitting hairs. More from the tweet sheet from mex Definitely clutch. 673 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 1: There have been countless quarterbacks who are consistent and put 674 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 1: up slightly above average numbers that don't amount to much. 675 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 1: You got to be clutch if you want to be 676 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 1: one of the great ones. Consistently can develop over time 677 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 1: being clutch cannot. I think I subscribe to that. I 678 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 1: think you are born sometimes with a clutch gene, with 679 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 1: the ability to assess the situation. I mean Gable talked 680 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 1: about it. Dabele said it right, you assess the situation. 681 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 1: See what you got out there. He's got it in 682 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 1: his young part of his quarterback. His preparation and work 683 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 1: ethic leads to some of those things that happened later 684 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 1: on in games. A young player who prepares himself well, 685 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 1: this is Dable talking, and when he's put it in 686 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 1: the moment, he's done a good job. He has right. 687 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 1: And there's another one from Ronnie who brings up another point. 688 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 1: He says, I went with consistent. If you're consistent, you 689 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 1: don't necessarily need clutch. And here's and here's the thing 690 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 1: that this made me think of if I can, if 691 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 1: I can remember it, When you're consistent, it's easy to 692 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 1: know what the rest of the guys on the team 693 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 1: have to do to win. It's easy to build a 694 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 1: team around a guy who's consistently this, this, this, or this. 695 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 1: If you got a guy who's consistently this, if he's 696 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 1: a consistently you know, good thrower or whatever whatever he's 697 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 1: got all these these attributes that you know you can 698 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 1: count on, well, then you know what else you need 699 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 1: on the team to put around this guy to get 700 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 1: yourselves to a championship level. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, 701 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 1: So there is something to be said for guy being 702 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 1: consistent and knowing that he's going to get help from 703 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 1: the rest of his squad, that they're going to be 704 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 1: able to depend on this guy in this situation. Here's 705 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 1: what we know we're gonna get from him. So we 706 00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 1: know we got to put a stronger time an end here, 707 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 1: or a better running back here or better, you know, 708 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 1: more wide receivers, more choices, whatever, whatever. We need a 709 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 1: big offensive line. If we know the guy's consistent, he 710 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 1: can make all the throws, makes all the right reads, 711 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 1: gets the ball, he's accurate enough and all that, but 712 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 1: he can't run a lick. Well, we better get a big, 713 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 1: a big offensive line to protect him. Yeah, you know 714 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But here's I would dispers that. There 715 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:24,879 Speaker 1: is that, but I would say you are always gonna 716 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:26,759 Speaker 1: have a need to be clutch from time to time. 717 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 1: You're all unless you're playing on a super team, and 718 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 1: unless you're Joe Montana or Aaron Rodgers, let's say you're 719 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 1: always gonna have to be clutch. Your team will will 720 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,839 Speaker 1: sometimes be trailing in the fourth quarter, as Josh Allen 721 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:39,840 Speaker 1: has found his team, and you need to make plays. 722 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 1: You're gonna need to make plays in the fourth quarter. 723 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 1: You won't unless you're going to the Hall of Fame 724 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 1: and you're sitting on the bench at the fourth quarter 725 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 1: with this team that's winning all the time. You're gonna 726 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 1: need to be clutch. And I think I agree with 727 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,439 Speaker 1: the folks who send it in the tweets. We're gonna 728 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 1: get the calls in a moment with the folks who 729 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 1: say you can develop consistency, but if you've got that 730 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,239 Speaker 1: clutch gene, you've got something going for you. How much 731 00:34:58,239 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 1: I don't think that'll go away either. By the way, 732 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 1: how about this though, and I got a question for you, 733 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 1: how much of being clutch hinges on your attributes? Josh 734 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:11,279 Speaker 1: Allen's clear. One of the reasons he's clutch because he 735 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 1: can tuck it under his arm and roll a guy over. 736 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 1: He can make plays on his own. One of the 737 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:17,319 Speaker 1: reasons he's clutched not only is he's a big guy 738 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,319 Speaker 1: who will roll you over with his legs. He'll stand 739 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 1: up and throw the ball to every corner of the 740 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 1: field from wherever he's standing. You got to cover the 741 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 1: whole field. That's one of the reasons he's also clutch, 742 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,399 Speaker 1: because they can't do that. One of the reasons he's 743 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,920 Speaker 1: clutch is because he has this competitive thing. Is he 744 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,520 Speaker 1: ain't gonna give up. You're right, he's gonna show up 745 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:37,840 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter when you need him, when it 746 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 1: looks hopeless and all of a sudden and you know, 747 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 1: drop two touchdown drives and you win. So part of 748 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 1: being clutch is about extra stuff the guy's got in 749 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,360 Speaker 1: the tank to give. I agree with that, and I 750 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,360 Speaker 1: especially like the point about competitiveness. I think his strongest 751 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,399 Speaker 1: suit is his competitiveness. It was out of the box 752 00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 1: coming here. That was on display. But I also would 753 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 1: not discount what Brian Dable said about the work that 754 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 1: goes into it and the preparation and the fact that 755 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,400 Speaker 1: he does study and does work atic work at it, 756 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 1: has a good work ethic. And when he gets to 757 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:10,880 Speaker 1: a game and it's fourth quarter and the chips are 758 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:12,399 Speaker 1: down and he has to make a play, he's got 759 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 1: this entire background of, oh, yeah, I worked on this, 760 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:16,520 Speaker 1: I know what we're doing here, I know what they 761 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,279 Speaker 1: want to do. I think that's important. All of my 762 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:22,879 Speaker 1: buddies who are in the Hall of Fame worked hard. Yeah, 763 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,439 Speaker 1: they prepared hard. They were gifts. I mean, Bruce Smith 764 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 1: was He could have been a Hall of Fame in 765 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:32,799 Speaker 1: any sport you pick, except maybe I don't know jockey, right, 766 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 1: he couldn't be He couldn't. He couldn't be a jockey 767 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 1: and be in the Hall of Fame. But but they 768 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:45,280 Speaker 1: were gifted. James Lofton Thurman, Jim Andre of course, Bruce 769 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,239 Speaker 1: all these guys are so physically gifted, but man, they 770 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 1: you know, the guys I've seen the Jerry Rice is 771 00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,080 Speaker 1: the world, Walter Payton's of the world, these legendary players. 772 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,800 Speaker 1: They worked hard at it, They prepared hard for it, 773 00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,400 Speaker 1: and you put that, You stack that pre preparedness on 774 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:01,480 Speaker 1: top of a lot of ability, and that's where you 775 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 1: get great, you know. So I'm with Brian Dable. I mean, 776 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,319 Speaker 1: it's all about the preparation. It's all about the hard 777 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 1: work you put in where nobody sees, you know, where 778 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,840 Speaker 1: you don't get credit for it. It's when you you know, 779 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:15,920 Speaker 1: you got to know that there's a connection between the 780 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 1: sweat you put in Monday through Saturday, shows up and 781 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 1: touchdowns and stuff and yards and statistics on Sunday. What's 782 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:25,800 Speaker 1: more important for Josh Hannen to be clutch, which he 783 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 1: appears to be, or consistent, which you know they need 784 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:30,560 Speaker 1: to work on. Here's Tommy and Toronto with a thought 785 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:32,680 Speaker 1: on this. Tommy, go ahead, you're on the air with this. 786 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,920 Speaker 1: Thanks guys, appreciate it. I was thinking about this and 787 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:38,719 Speaker 1: I just listening to you. I'm going back and forth 788 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,319 Speaker 1: in my head. But the one thing I keep thinking 789 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,880 Speaker 1: about is you know. I was going to go with 790 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,879 Speaker 1: consistency because consistency will will keep you in the game. 791 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,520 Speaker 1: But consistency, I think goes out the window when you've 792 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:53,480 Speaker 1: got to do it. And I was gonna ask you, Steve, 793 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 1: when you know, does a first down when you were 794 00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,920 Speaker 1: playing wide receiver? Does a first down play feel different 795 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,359 Speaker 1: than a third down? I gotta have it play because 796 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 1: I gotta feel that you're a little bit more on 797 00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 1: edge on that third down play and the stress involved. 798 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:12,640 Speaker 1: There's lots of guys who are consistent. You know, you 799 00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 1: can simulate, you can simulate that clutch moment until you 800 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,400 Speaker 1: get to the big stage and you or you know, 801 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,440 Speaker 1: you don't get something. I was going to relate this 802 00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:26,880 Speaker 1: to baseball. Right now, we're watching amazing playoff baseball. The 803 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,760 Speaker 1: guys who are hitting three hundred plus as an average. 804 00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,600 Speaker 1: Not all of them are hitting home runs when it counts, 805 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,000 Speaker 1: like al Tube. So I gotta believe al Tude's got 806 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,880 Speaker 1: something different than some of these other guys. What do 807 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,840 Speaker 1: you think, Steve, That's an interesting question. I'm thinking about it. 808 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:42,680 Speaker 1: I gotta tell you this as a player, and I 809 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:47,600 Speaker 1: think back to it and it sounds different, But I think, 810 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:49,960 Speaker 1: you know, here's the best way I can say to 811 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:53,040 Speaker 1: put it. I think because I never really thought about that, 812 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:57,359 Speaker 1: you know what, but I always thought this. Every play 813 00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:02,000 Speaker 1: is different. Every play has its own consequences, particularly in football, 814 00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,880 Speaker 1: where you know, at the end of the play, you 815 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:06,520 Speaker 1: got a guy, you got a buddy over there, it's 816 00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,759 Speaker 1: a busted ankle, and nobody even knew it was coming. 817 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:10,680 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. There's so there's this element 818 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:14,960 Speaker 1: of flying around, banging into people that's there. So there's 819 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,960 Speaker 1: always some sort of consequences. I think people feel pressure 820 00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:22,120 Speaker 1: when they're worried about the consequences of failure. You feel 821 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,560 Speaker 1: pressure in a moment when you're worried about the consequences 822 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 1: if you fail. That's what pressure is, especially in athletics, 823 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,960 Speaker 1: and what I've always I've always told my sons when 824 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:35,959 Speaker 1: they play, and I tell the young people when they play, 825 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 1: when you feel yourself in a moment, remember it's just 826 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 1: it's just trite saying. It's a cliche. But it's just 827 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,520 Speaker 1: a game. So they're not gonna you know, nobody's You know, 828 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,000 Speaker 1: your life's not over. If you believe me, I lost 829 00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:51,239 Speaker 1: four Super Bowls. Life is pretty good after losing four 830 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,560 Speaker 1: Super Bowls. Let me just tell you it's amazing. So 831 00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,319 Speaker 1: here's the thing. When you get into those moments where 832 00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:01,440 Speaker 1: you're worried about the consequences if you ail, just remember 833 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,400 Speaker 1: that's what you want. I mean, you gotta embrace it. 834 00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,360 Speaker 1: You gotta like show off. You're like, yeah, this is it, 835 00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:12,080 Speaker 1: let's go. That's the mindset you have to have. You think, 836 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,839 Speaker 1: this is what we're here for. We want this moment 837 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,080 Speaker 1: to happen. We wanted to be here, we were begging 838 00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,080 Speaker 1: for this. We've trained our whole life for this, we 839 00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 1: were born for this. Whatever, whatever way you want to 840 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:23,759 Speaker 1: put it, you got to embrace that moment because you 841 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:27,040 Speaker 1: got a chance, and that's all you ever wanted. In 842 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:29,719 Speaker 1: that moment in the fourth quarter, when you're you're you 843 00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:31,360 Speaker 1: got a chance to win the game, when in the 844 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:33,319 Speaker 1: in a basketball when you got a chance to make 845 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,320 Speaker 1: the shot in golf, when you got a chance to 846 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,960 Speaker 1: make the putt, in any sporting event you have, and 847 00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,680 Speaker 1: the chips are down. The only reason you feel pressure 848 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:46,040 Speaker 1: is because of the consequences you're worried about if you fail. Well, 849 00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,840 Speaker 1: don't worry about that. Think about how awesome it is. 850 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,879 Speaker 1: That you got the opportunity, Let's go do what you've 851 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:55,759 Speaker 1: trained to do. Have this moment. So that's the moment. 852 00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:59,040 Speaker 1: That's that's the clutch gene that you want to cultivate 853 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:02,279 Speaker 1: in your team and then yourself individually, that you know, 854 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:06,239 Speaker 1: worried about the consequences. This is what you've strive to 855 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,080 Speaker 1: get to. So let's go, you know, let's take this 856 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:12,160 Speaker 1: opportunity and make the play. So that's you know, there's 857 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,560 Speaker 1: no and I so went in a football game and 858 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:16,239 Speaker 1: the call are asking, you know, what's the difference between 859 00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:18,600 Speaker 1: a third down play or a first down play and 860 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:20,400 Speaker 1: a fourth quarter play in the first quarter play? I 861 00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,520 Speaker 1: guess it goes in with that. They're they're all different. 862 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:27,000 Speaker 1: Every play is different because you know the consequences or 863 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:29,000 Speaker 1: whatever you make them out to be or what you 864 00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:32,160 Speaker 1: know different or you can't come back from a fourth 865 00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,080 Speaker 1: quarter play, but you have plenty of time to have 866 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,200 Speaker 1: more chances to overcome up mistake, don't You can't worry 867 00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 1: about that. It's this play is what's important, not the 868 00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,919 Speaker 1: consequences if you lose the game or whatever. So that's 869 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:45,960 Speaker 1: that's the mentality you have to have as a clutch 870 00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:49,000 Speaker 1: player in my opinion, as a clutch player, you gotta 871 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:50,520 Speaker 1: step up and say, man, this is what I want. 872 00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,440 Speaker 1: Josh Hammond, would you rather be clutch or consistent? Let 873 00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:56,000 Speaker 1: us know. We'll get back to more phone calls when 874 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,839 Speaker 1: we come back. It's One Builds Live, presented by Kalida Health, 875 00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,560 Speaker 1: coming from the Senate a studio in Orchard Park. This 876 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:15,839 Speaker 1: is Buffalo Bill's Radio. On those Love John Murphy see 877 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:17,839 Speaker 1: Tasker having a good discussion to get things going there, 878 00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,640 Speaker 1: talking about quarterbacks, talking about Josh Allen. Do you want 879 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,600 Speaker 1: Tom clutch or consistent? You can have both. Ideally you'd 880 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:25,279 Speaker 1: have both, but if he had to choose, it's a 881 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,200 Speaker 1: it's just a rhetorical argument. We talked a lot about 882 00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,839 Speaker 1: Sam Darnold in the first segment of the show. I'm 883 00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,239 Speaker 1: getting called to task on Twitter. Maybe you a little 884 00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:35,720 Speaker 1: bit too steep about well Joss threw three picks against 885 00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,319 Speaker 1: the Patriots. Yes he did. Josh did not play well 886 00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,640 Speaker 1: at all against New England. But I submit Darnold played 887 00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:44,399 Speaker 1: worse against the Patriots last night. Josh's picks at least 888 00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,880 Speaker 1: two of them were somewhat contested or could have been 889 00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,560 Speaker 1: contested that weren't, and he wasn't thrown it, well, he wasn't. 890 00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:51,880 Speaker 1: Josh was not comfortable with what he was seeing against 891 00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,400 Speaker 1: New England three four weeks ago. That was clear. He 892 00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,160 Speaker 1: didn't throw it well, that was clear. Had to leave 893 00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,200 Speaker 1: the game eventually, right when he got banged up, hit 894 00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:01,239 Speaker 1: to the head. But I still don't think he's ever 895 00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,400 Speaker 1: played as poorly as I saw Donald play last night. 896 00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:08,040 Speaker 1: We were talking about who allowed Sam Donald to be 897 00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,759 Speaker 1: miked up and used on the ESPN last night and 898 00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:12,680 Speaker 1: you found something right, Well, here's the thing, and a 899 00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,960 Speaker 1: maniche Meta, who covers the Jets. He came out with 900 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:19,400 Speaker 1: a tweet just a few minutes ago and it said 901 00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,520 Speaker 1: and said, here's how the Monday night football mic process works. 902 00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:26,160 Speaker 1: This is I'm quoting miniche Meta. NFL Films signed off 903 00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:29,760 Speaker 1: on Sam Donald's ghosts comments to be aired. That's NFL Films. 904 00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,000 Speaker 1: They had a rep on site and his understanding is 905 00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,359 Speaker 1: that people high on the NFL films totem Pole, are 906 00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:38,960 Speaker 1: not happy that their rep cleared this for air. ESPN 907 00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:42,520 Speaker 1: requested Sam Donald to be miked up. Jets were receptive 908 00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,840 Speaker 1: to that, welcomed it. He has been requested. Yes, the 909 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,200 Speaker 1: Jets had agreed to have Donald miked up for the 910 00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:51,240 Speaker 1: Week two primetime game versus the Browns, but he got mono. 911 00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:53,759 Speaker 1: The Jets did not have a rep sign off on 912 00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,600 Speaker 1: the ghost comments to be aired. And then finally, ESPN 913 00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:58,759 Speaker 1: does not have any control over what gets aired or 914 00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,879 Speaker 1: not from the mic player. This was a decision made 915 00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:05,759 Speaker 1: by an on site NFL Films rep. The bottom line 916 00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:09,720 Speaker 1: is players say things like this on the sidelines a lot. Obviously, 917 00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:15,600 Speaker 1: Jets and Darnold got got dissed here, and the organization 918 00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:19,440 Speaker 1: should be mad. Yeah he's right, he's right. They got 919 00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,960 Speaker 1: what they got. They got stabbed in the back by 920 00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,720 Speaker 1: the NFL Films crew. I'm not sure about that because 921 00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:27,680 Speaker 1: they allowed him to be miked up. I know what's 922 00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:29,359 Speaker 1: you know, you don't know what he's gonna say. Got 923 00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,560 Speaker 1: well that certainly. Let me tell you this. If you're say, 924 00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:34,719 Speaker 1: for instance, who's on Monday Night football this next week, 925 00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:39,360 Speaker 1: do we have that? Say, say you're the Browns and 926 00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:44,279 Speaker 1: you're gonna play the New England Patriots, which they've there 927 00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:48,960 Speaker 1: on the schedule. You want Baker Mayfield up for this? Right? 928 00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,200 Speaker 1: So NFL Films goes, we want it now. Nobody wants 929 00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,480 Speaker 1: to get miked up. Yeah, and I get it too. 930 00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:56,560 Speaker 1: So they're gonna mike these guys up, and all you're 931 00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:58,560 Speaker 1: gonna get is Okay, let's go, guys, let's have a 932 00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:02,040 Speaker 1: great game. Yeah, who cares? Right? You want, you know, 933 00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:04,880 Speaker 1: they want, you know, controversial stuff like this on there. Right, 934 00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:08,840 Speaker 1: you're not getting it anymore, Okay. I can live with that. 935 00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,760 Speaker 1: I can't too watching the game. I can't look soundtrack 936 00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:13,920 Speaker 1: to the game. NFL Films is doing it to themselves, 937 00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:17,040 Speaker 1: is my point. Yeah, I wouldn't. I wouldn't hold the 938 00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,600 Speaker 1: Jets blameless. I really would not. Oh, I wouldn't either. 939 00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:21,080 Speaker 1: I thought it was a huge that they were and 940 00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,600 Speaker 1: like the Jets were receptive to it. And there's this 941 00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:27,040 Speaker 1: too and that comment, and it sounds it's it sounds 942 00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,560 Speaker 1: worse than it is quite frankly, for Donald to say 943 00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,919 Speaker 1: I'm seeing ghosts. Maybe it's because it's October, but people 944 00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,080 Speaker 1: are like, what is he afraid? What does he mean he' 945 00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:37,960 Speaker 1: seeing ghosts? No, Steve tell us it means he's he 946 00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:41,040 Speaker 1: thinks he's seen something. Coverage wise, that's not right there, 947 00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:43,560 Speaker 1: it's not exactly there. It's not an admission of fear. 948 00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:46,399 Speaker 1: It's not an admission of fright or oh my god, 949 00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:49,719 Speaker 1: I'm totally bewildered. It's like I thought the safety was there, 950 00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,000 Speaker 1: but he wasn't. I'm seeing ghosts. They're showing him some 951 00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:55,279 Speaker 1: things and they're not true. Yeah, that's what he means. 952 00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,799 Speaker 1: That's what it means, and it's it's something that an 953 00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,399 Speaker 1: admission of it has. It's a football term has become 954 00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,800 Speaker 1: a football term for that. When you've got a quarterback 955 00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:06,239 Speaker 1: who thinks he's seeing something and it scares him into 956 00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,960 Speaker 1: doing something else. You know, he says, I can't go there, 957 00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:10,880 Speaker 1: I've got to go over here, and all of a sudden, 958 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:12,799 Speaker 1: he throws it over there, and that's what they wanted 959 00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:18,120 Speaker 1: him to do. Uh, that's what it means. It's but obviously, 960 00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:22,360 Speaker 1: you know it makes him sound like he was unprepared 961 00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,200 Speaker 1: and bewildered. Say what you said in the in the 962 00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:28,600 Speaker 1: break about how that will stay with how it's Mark 963 00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:31,160 Speaker 1: Sanchez and the butt fumble all over again. That ghost 964 00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:34,680 Speaker 1: comments gonna be with Sam Donard forever and every time 965 00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:36,440 Speaker 1: he threw, every time for the rest of his career, 966 00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:38,239 Speaker 1: as in New York Jet, He's gonna be there every 967 00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:40,080 Speaker 1: time he throws an interception. It's gonna be how he 968 00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:43,759 Speaker 1: must Casper the friendly goes there. You know it's gonna 969 00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:45,200 Speaker 1: be a joke, and you know the back page of 970 00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:47,080 Speaker 1: the New York the New York Post is gonna have 971 00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:51,239 Speaker 1: something about it. I mean is they absolutely stabbed the 972 00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:52,799 Speaker 1: kid in the back. And I don't you know he's 973 00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,120 Speaker 1: a Jet. I mean, we don't have any no love 974 00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:57,319 Speaker 1: loss for the Jet, but you feel bad for the kid. 975 00:46:58,239 --> 00:46:59,920 Speaker 1: He walked into a game where he's going against a 976 00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:04,919 Speaker 1: historically good defense and they set him up to look 977 00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:10,040 Speaker 1: to embarrass him. They set it up to embarrass him deliberately. 978 00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:14,720 Speaker 1: Somebody that that putting that comment out there? Who deliberately 979 00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:19,680 Speaker 1: I don't know about that really deliberately who I'm not 980 00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:21,799 Speaker 1: saying the Jets did that. Whoever said, yeah, you can 981 00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:24,719 Speaker 1: air the ghosts comment? Yeah, Well do they have a 982 00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:27,920 Speaker 1: discussion before every comment? No? Once. My impression is once 983 00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:32,359 Speaker 1: you say he's miked up, you know the rules, No obscenities, 984 00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:35,440 Speaker 1: no strategy, knock yourself. You don't get a chance to 985 00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:37,440 Speaker 1: review everything. I'm not saying the Jets did that. I 986 00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,440 Speaker 1: get no, but I'll tell you this too, Murph. The 987 00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:43,239 Speaker 1: Jets certainly didn't go out there and say, yeah, we don't. 988 00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:45,440 Speaker 1: They didn't get a say in that. They didn't get 989 00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:46,759 Speaker 1: a say in that. But they said, if you're gonna 990 00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:52,120 Speaker 1: mike him up, you know, don't you know? The understanding 991 00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:53,920 Speaker 1: would be not to make us look bad, not to 992 00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:55,600 Speaker 1: make our guy look bad, don't put it out there 993 00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:57,520 Speaker 1: if he if he has a bad night, don't hang 994 00:47:57,600 --> 00:47:59,120 Speaker 1: him out to dry. I mean that kind of goes 995 00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:04,200 Speaker 1: without saying that. Yeah, yeah, obviously not. But I think 996 00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:09,520 Speaker 1: the statement I'm seeing ghosts carries a connotation that maybe 997 00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:12,080 Speaker 1: somebody who allowed that they go on the air and 998 00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:14,960 Speaker 1: knew as we do, and as most football fans knew. Look, 999 00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:18,160 Speaker 1: what he's really seeing is don't I'm seeing stuff that's 1000 00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:21,360 Speaker 1: not there, but I'm seeing ghosts, you know. And the 1001 00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:23,440 Speaker 1: way he said, do we have the sound anyway from 1002 00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:25,440 Speaker 1: last night? I don't know. If we do, Can we 1003 00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:27,440 Speaker 1: play that because you gotta hear it was just sort 1004 00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:29,320 Speaker 1: of an offhand comment, right it was. It wasn't like, 1005 00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:31,759 Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm seeing ghosts. Listen to it. This 1006 00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:41,399 Speaker 1: is what Sam Darnold said last night, seeing ghosts. It's 1007 00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:45,480 Speaker 1: a self reflection. I'm seeing ghosts. He's basically telling himself 1008 00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,120 Speaker 1: calm down. You thought you saw something, it wasn't there. 1009 00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:51,359 Speaker 1: I'm seeing ghosts, right, we all do that. I don't 1010 00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:53,879 Speaker 1: think it's when you see it in context of the game. 1011 00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:56,560 Speaker 1: It's not as damaging as it appears on the back 1012 00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,920 Speaker 1: page of the New York Daily News. I'm seeing ghosts. 1013 00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:03,680 Speaker 1: That's exactly right. It's I see dead people. I feel bad. 1014 00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:06,160 Speaker 1: Now you feel bad for a kid like that. I 1015 00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:09,719 Speaker 1: mean he's on his Yeah, it's just to remember that 1016 00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:13,040 Speaker 1: how his career started on Monday night football in Detroit 1017 00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:15,840 Speaker 1: and his first pass ever was a pick six. And 1018 00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,760 Speaker 1: last night, his first pass of the game, his second 1019 00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:24,400 Speaker 1: Monday Night start was a pick So yeah, it's this 1020 00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:27,040 Speaker 1: is I just I just feel bad that there are 1021 00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:29,759 Speaker 1: guys that because I know, I mean, no matter what, 1022 00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:31,800 Speaker 1: if you do something bad on a football field, it 1023 00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:33,440 Speaker 1: sticks with you for a long time because there are 1024 00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:36,560 Speaker 1: some people, you know, whatever percent if there's eighty thousand 1025 00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:41,920 Speaker 1: people in there and one and one percent see that 1026 00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:45,000 Speaker 1: and they remember you for that, how many people is 1027 00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:48,000 Speaker 1: that do the mat do There's a couple hundred people 1028 00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:49,920 Speaker 1: out there that know you by know nothing else than 1029 00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:52,520 Speaker 1: the nutty thing you did on the football field. So 1030 00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:54,480 Speaker 1: all right go. We'll talk more about this, We'll talk 1031 00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:56,400 Speaker 1: about the Bills. We'll talk about the Bills and the Eagles. 1032 00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:58,040 Speaker 1: We got our buddy Kyle Brant coming up from the 1033 00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:00,399 Speaker 1: NFL Network when we come back after the break, come 1034 00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:02,640 Speaker 1: on back with us. One hour done a couple hours ago. 1035 00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,320 Speaker 1: One Bills Live presented by Kalada Health Live from the 1036 00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:17,520 Speaker 1: Seneca Studio. This is Buffalo Bills Radio, Balo Hills Radio 1037 00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:21,439 Speaker 1: Network Sports of the update from One Bill's Drive where 1038 00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:23,239 Speaker 1: it's player's day off for the Buffalo Bills. They'll be 1039 00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:24,839 Speaker 1: back tomorrow to begin to get ready for the game 1040 00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:27,879 Speaker 1: against the Philadelphia Eagles. A look at NFL stat show 1041 00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,799 Speaker 1: that quarterback johsh Allen leads the NFL in his fourth 1042 00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,879 Speaker 1: quarter passer raiding mark of one thirty nine point six 1043 00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:37,520 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. He's done outstanding, completing close to 1044 00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:40,400 Speaker 1: sixty nine percent of his fourth quarter passes. Yards for 1045 00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:43,360 Speaker 1: attempt is up high touchdown percentage of twelve and a 1046 00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:46,239 Speaker 1: half percent fourth quarter johsh Allen's quarter, and we're talking 1047 00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:48,200 Speaker 1: about that all day long here on the show. They 1048 00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:50,640 Speaker 1: got the Eagles this Sunday and the Eagles making roster moves. 1049 00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:54,480 Speaker 1: They released cornerback Orlando Scandrick and defensive tackle the Keem Spence. 1050 00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:57,959 Speaker 1: They signed defensive tackle Anthony Rush from the Oakland Raiders 1051 00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:01,040 Speaker 1: practice squad. Scandrick returned to the team in September after 1052 00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:03,840 Speaker 1: being cut prior to the season run into playing nickelback. 1053 00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:06,640 Speaker 1: He played with the Chiefs in twenty eighteen, joing. The 1054 00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:09,680 Speaker 1: Patriots reportedly have acquired venor and wide receiver Mohammed Sanu 1055 00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:11,880 Speaker 1: from the Falcons for a second round fat pig. He 1056 00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:14,319 Speaker 1: gives them an inside target on third downs to take 1057 00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:17,960 Speaker 1: some of the pressure off Julian Edelman. He was emboldened 1058 00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:19,879 Speaker 1: by how well he played against the Cowboys, but Jets 1059 00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,840 Speaker 1: quarterback Sam Donald struggled last night. He lost He and 1060 00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:25,920 Speaker 1: the Jets lost thirty three to nothing. Of the Patriots. Darnald, 1061 00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:28,399 Speaker 1: miked up by ESPN, was quoted as saying, I'm seeing 1062 00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:31,480 Speaker 1: ghosts as he talked to himself on the sidelines. He 1063 00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:35,040 Speaker 1: was confused and rattled by the patriots suffocating defense. Panthers 1064 00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:38,040 Speaker 1: coach Ron Rivera didn't waste time ending speculation on whether 1065 00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:40,879 Speaker 1: Cam Newton will return this week. Panthers say Kyle Allen 1066 00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:43,920 Speaker 1: will start their game Sunday against the undefeated San Francisco 1067 00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,839 Speaker 1: forty nine Ers Sabers Tonight. The Buffalo Sabers back home 1068 00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:48,719 Speaker 1: where they have yet to lose this year for O 1069 00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:51,000 Speaker 1: and O to start the home schedule. Sabers home tonight 1070 00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:53,040 Speaker 1: against San Jose, a rematch of the game of the 1071 00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:55,440 Speaker 1: other night. Carter Hutton is the NHL's third Star of 1072 00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:57,640 Speaker 1: the Week with his back to back shutout bids. It 1073 00:51:57,800 --> 00:51:59,919 Speaker 1: is a seven o'clock faceoff tonight at key Bank Center 1074 00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,520 Speaker 1: and the World Series. Tonight, Matt Scherzer, the game one 1075 00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:05,440 Speaker 1: starter for the Washington Nationals, will face off against Houston 1076 00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:08,560 Speaker 1: Astros starter Garrett Cole. Cole writing a streak of nineteen 1077 00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:11,600 Speaker 1: consecutive winning decisions. Game one of the World Series in 1078 00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:14,480 Speaker 1: Houston Tonight, the Nats in the Houston Astros first pitch 1079 00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:17,400 Speaker 1: just after eight o'clock. That's the update from One Goals Drive. 1080 00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:19,640 Speaker 1: John Murphy, Steve Tasker and a special guest on the line. 1081 00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:22,000 Speaker 1: We visit with him every Tuesday at this time. He's 1082 00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:24,680 Speaker 1: the host of Good Morning Football on the NFL Network 1083 00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:26,719 Speaker 1: seven am on weekdays. Happy they have our friend Kyle 1084 00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:29,040 Speaker 1: Brandt on the line with us. Hello, Kyle, John Murphy 1085 00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:32,799 Speaker 1: and Steve Tasker here in Buffalo. Thanks for coming on, Marvs. Dave, 1086 00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:35,040 Speaker 1: how are you? I wonder for Bill's fans watching the 1087 00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:37,359 Speaker 1: game last night, is it more taking joy and how 1088 00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:39,879 Speaker 1: bad the Jets are or taking cover from how good 1089 00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:42,560 Speaker 1: the Patriots are. Yeah, it's a double edged sword, no 1090 00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:46,120 Speaker 1: question about it. Yeah, in the I think in your 1091 00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:47,640 Speaker 1: hearts of hearts, you were kind of cheering for the 1092 00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:49,799 Speaker 1: Jets last night to kind of knock the Patriots around 1093 00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:51,960 Speaker 1: a little bit, maybe continue what they did to the 1094 00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:55,200 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. About five minutes into that game, I was 1095 00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:58,960 Speaker 1: wishing it was wishing I was somewhere else. Yeah, it 1096 00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:02,279 Speaker 1: was over almost, guys, like the game was haunted, right, 1097 00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:06,399 Speaker 1: there was something surreally going on there. Listen, we're talking 1098 00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:08,920 Speaker 1: about it off there before we go on this fact 1099 00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:12,560 Speaker 1: that Sam Donald is miked up and says I've seen 1100 00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:15,400 Speaker 1: ghosts out there. All right, let me start with the positive. 1101 00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:17,680 Speaker 1: Let me let me try to be constructive with this kid. 1102 00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:21,120 Speaker 1: The positive is, at least there's no more Mono jokes. 1103 00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:25,520 Speaker 1: No one's talking about Mono. That's done. Point it is. 1104 00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:29,279 Speaker 1: I can't think of a more loaded sound bite, and 1105 00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:34,760 Speaker 1: it's perfect for pop culture. For Twitter, it's Halloween season, 1106 00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:38,919 Speaker 1: it's this there's a Ghostbusters movie coming out. I feel 1107 00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:42,520 Speaker 1: like this could very well be a tattoo for Sam Donald. 1108 00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:44,680 Speaker 1: I've done some crazy things in my life. I consider 1109 00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:47,880 Speaker 1: them tattoos. I will always be asked about Sam Donald. 1110 00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:50,239 Speaker 1: Might be signed in autographs thirty years from now and 1111 00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:52,200 Speaker 1: some guy in line's gonna say, hey, how about the 1112 00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:55,800 Speaker 1: ghost thing? This could be permanent. Yah, we talked about it, Steven. 1113 00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:57,560 Speaker 1: I we actually played the sound bite from last night 1114 00:53:57,600 --> 00:53:59,759 Speaker 1: a few moments ago. Yeah, I mean in a football sense. 1115 00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:01,840 Speaker 1: He was talking to himself. By the way he was 1116 00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,640 Speaker 1: actually talking, he was thinking out loud. He's saying, you know, 1117 00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:07,919 Speaker 1: after the interception, he's basically saying, oh, I'm seeing stuff 1118 00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:10,160 Speaker 1: that's not there. I'm seeing ghosts. That it means something 1119 00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:12,960 Speaker 1: in football, But certainly its just said because a variety 1120 00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:15,520 Speaker 1: of factors. As you said, it'll always be stuck with him, now, 1121 00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:18,520 Speaker 1: won't it. Oh it's totally irrational. I say that as 1122 00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:20,200 Speaker 1: a guy who talks to himself all the time. I 1123 00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:22,520 Speaker 1: say crazy. I have craigs and conversations with myself all 1124 00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:24,640 Speaker 1: day and he's probably just talking him through it and everything. 1125 00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:27,120 Speaker 1: But now it's got wings now, it's got life. And 1126 00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:30,359 Speaker 1: the interesting layer that's happening almost in real time right 1127 00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:33,600 Speaker 1: now is Adam Gays is upset about this. Now. My 1128 00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:37,040 Speaker 1: take on it is, why would you allow on a 1129 00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:39,359 Speaker 1: Monday night game against the maybe one of the best 1130 00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:43,360 Speaker 1: defenses we've ever seen, your young franchise quarterback to be 1131 00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:45,920 Speaker 1: miked up in that game. You know you can say no, 1132 00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:49,200 Speaker 1: there's no they can't impose that on you. And Gays 1133 00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:51,680 Speaker 1: now is coming back and saying, well, maybe we need 1134 00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:54,920 Speaker 1: to reevaluate our cooperation with the network and with the 1135 00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:58,120 Speaker 1: league because he's not happy that they took it. My 1136 00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:01,560 Speaker 1: take it was a terrible game. Monday night football has 1137 00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:03,560 Speaker 1: been taking its lumps for a few years. They had 1138 00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:05,759 Speaker 1: the sound bite and they could have said, well, that's 1139 00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:08,239 Speaker 1: not really fair to Donald, let's bury it, but screw it. 1140 00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:10,200 Speaker 1: We ran it. And I think if you put the 1141 00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:12,759 Speaker 1: mic on the quarterback, that's the risk you take. Yeah, 1142 00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:14,680 Speaker 1: we were talking as well, and I know it's like 1143 00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:16,560 Speaker 1: we're a little bit of prisoner of the moment by 1144 00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:19,960 Speaker 1: the struggles Sam Donald had against you know, the Patriot defense. 1145 00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:21,719 Speaker 1: It's a long list of guys who have done that, 1146 00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:24,480 Speaker 1: by the way, but including the guy down the right, 1147 00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:27,160 Speaker 1: including including our guy. Yeah, but you know, you look 1148 00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:30,920 Speaker 1: at look at the twenty eighteen quarterback draft this morning, 1149 00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:36,720 Speaker 1: and Lamar Jackson looks pretty good, Josh Allen looks pretty good, Sam, 1150 00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:40,799 Speaker 1: Josh Rosen, Baker Mayfield even is struggling a little bit 1151 00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:43,000 Speaker 1: more than we thought it. You kind of throw those 1152 00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:45,520 Speaker 1: guys into a hopper and it would be a different 1153 00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:48,000 Speaker 1: order had they come out maybe in this last year's 1154 00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:51,800 Speaker 1: draft or today's draft. Yeah, it's crazy. I mean, Lamar 1155 00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:55,000 Speaker 1: barely snuck into the first round, you know, and then 1156 00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:57,799 Speaker 1: you go back to the draft day, a strange experience 1157 00:55:57,840 --> 00:55:59,960 Speaker 1: that Josh Allen had, and he's slid and it seem 1158 00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:02,319 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's so up and down. You use 1159 00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:06,040 Speaker 1: the term prisoner of the moment. Six months ago, we're saying, 1160 00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:08,600 Speaker 1: you know, Baker Mayfield looks like a young Steve Young. 1161 00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:11,959 Speaker 1: You know, he looks fantastic. And Darnald a week ago 1162 00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:16,120 Speaker 1: looked incredible reading the Dallas Cowboys. But that's why you're 1163 00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:18,239 Speaker 1: gonna some of these guys, two of them, maybe even 1164 00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:20,480 Speaker 1: one of them, is gonna figure out how to do 1165 00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:22,600 Speaker 1: it week after week. Guys, I talk to you every 1166 00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:25,319 Speaker 1: week and every time that comes up, we talk Josh Allen, 1167 00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:27,480 Speaker 1: and it's I always have the same take. Love the 1168 00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:30,160 Speaker 1: way it competes, love that he's afraid of nothing. I 1169 00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:32,640 Speaker 1: just wish you could get rid of those few big mistakes. 1170 00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:34,880 Speaker 1: That's all it is. He makes a couple of mistakes 1171 00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:37,479 Speaker 1: a game, and against the Patriots, that's what they're gonna 1172 00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:39,120 Speaker 1: do because they're gonna play him again. I mean they're 1173 00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:41,440 Speaker 1: gonna he's gonna have another shot, but he's just got 1174 00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:43,880 Speaker 1: to clean it up. Kyle, you'd take it right into it. 1175 00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:45,799 Speaker 1: You take yourself right into our Twitter pole of the day. 1176 00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:48,480 Speaker 1: We're asking Bills fans Josh Ellen, what's more important for 1177 00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:51,400 Speaker 1: him to be clutch or consistent? He has been clutch. 1178 00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:53,640 Speaker 1: He leads the league in fourth quarter passing, He's got 1179 00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:56,760 Speaker 1: five fourth quarter comebacks now and is a short seventeen 1180 00:56:56,800 --> 00:57:00,400 Speaker 1: start NFL career, and that's big. I think that had 1181 00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:02,759 Speaker 1: to choose, and obviously you'd like to read both. But 1182 00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:04,560 Speaker 1: I think I'd rather be clutch right now than be 1183 00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:10,200 Speaker 1: exceedingly consistent. What do you think it's a question of ceiling, 1184 00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:12,920 Speaker 1: you know, consistent. I think Josh Allen could be consistent 1185 00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:15,879 Speaker 1: and smooth and rely on the defense. And we've talked 1186 00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:17,920 Speaker 1: about this before. I still think they're gonna win ten 1187 00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:20,800 Speaker 1: or eleven games. But the clutch back there is like, 1188 00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:23,400 Speaker 1: let's go for the big money, let's take behind curtain 1189 00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:27,000 Speaker 1: number two. We talked this morning about Okay, so the 1190 00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:30,840 Speaker 1: Patriots are fantastic and they're getting better, Atti Mohammed Sanu, 1191 00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:33,800 Speaker 1: who is the team that's gonna take them out? Who's 1192 00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:35,800 Speaker 1: the team in the afcaman that's gonna take them out. 1193 00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:38,360 Speaker 1: We went around our table and there was some love for, 1194 00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:41,400 Speaker 1: you know, the Houston Texans, and there's a love for 1195 00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:44,520 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes of course when he's healthy. I want to know. 1196 00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:47,800 Speaker 1: I stand by it on the Buffalo Bills because Tom 1197 00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:50,120 Speaker 1: Brady has played I don't know, maybe three hundred games 1198 00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:52,760 Speaker 1: in his career, and you can look it up objectively. 1199 00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:55,120 Speaker 1: One of the five worst games he has ever played 1200 00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:58,000 Speaker 1: in his career statistically was in twenty nineteen against the 1201 00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:00,480 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. They brought it to him. They barely squeaked 1202 00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:02,920 Speaker 1: by that thing. So I feel like the way to 1203 00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:05,320 Speaker 1: beat this Patriots team, their defense is so good. I 1204 00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:07,280 Speaker 1: don't think you're gonna beat them thirty to twenty six. 1205 00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:09,840 Speaker 1: I think you're gonna have to beat this team nineteen 1206 00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:12,840 Speaker 1: to sixteen, and I don't see defenses out there good 1207 00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:14,680 Speaker 1: enough to do it. I know the Bills have one, 1208 00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:18,000 Speaker 1: it's just again, can they get the game from Josh 1209 00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:20,800 Speaker 1: Down where he's cleaning doesn't have the turnovers, and that's 1210 00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:22,720 Speaker 1: what we need now. This game we had last week 1211 00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:24,800 Speaker 1: against the Miami Dolphins, and a lot of people thought 1212 00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:27,720 Speaker 1: the Bills should have trounced them and dominated. They end 1213 00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:30,000 Speaker 1: up scoring thirty one points on a returned on side 1214 00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:32,040 Speaker 1: kick at the end of the game. They beat him. 1215 00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:35,120 Speaker 1: But does it give you any pause? I mean about 1216 00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:39,400 Speaker 1: how tough the Dolphins played the Bills. I actually liked it. 1217 00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:42,040 Speaker 1: I'll tell you why, because every team, I don't care 1218 00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:44,760 Speaker 1: if you're sixteen and Z sixteen, you have these days 1219 00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:46,320 Speaker 1: you just don't have it and you play down to 1220 00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:49,160 Speaker 1: the level of a competition and you end up taking 1221 00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:51,280 Speaker 1: the loss and you kick yourself after we were better 1222 00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:53,040 Speaker 1: than that team. We should never have lost to them. 1223 00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:55,240 Speaker 1: I feel like the Bills took a few punches and 1224 00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:57,520 Speaker 1: didn't give up, and they got the huge turnover from 1225 00:58:57,600 --> 00:59:00,080 Speaker 1: Trey White, And as you said, Josh Down was in 1226 00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:02,480 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. It's very easy to play down to 1227 00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:04,800 Speaker 1: the level of competition, and they did that for a while. 1228 00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:07,240 Speaker 1: The fact that they said, no, screw it and figure 1229 00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:09,320 Speaker 1: it out and how to win that game. I would 1230 00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:11,800 Speaker 1: say the same thing last week happened in that ridiculous 1231 00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:14,760 Speaker 1: rainy game with a forty nine ers against the Redskins. 1232 00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:16,840 Speaker 1: The Niners can have easily blown that and gone home 1233 00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:18,720 Speaker 1: and said, oh, well, we blame it on the rain, 1234 00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:22,120 Speaker 1: blame it the lame literally, and they said, no, we're 1235 00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:24,760 Speaker 1: gonna win. We get the kicks nine to OEt we 1236 00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:27,240 Speaker 1: move on. I thought that the Bill showed some toughness 1237 00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:29,240 Speaker 1: in this one. No, it's not going on their demo real, 1238 00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:31,400 Speaker 1: but who cares at this point. Guy's just stack wins. 1239 00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:33,480 Speaker 1: They got it done. That's all I'm gonna say. Back 1240 00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:35,560 Speaker 1: to Josh Aamin for a second CALLI he has just 1241 00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:38,439 Speaker 1: the one interception now in the last two games. Maybe 1242 00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:40,760 Speaker 1: that sort of transformation that many of us, including you've 1243 00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:43,760 Speaker 1: been looking for, maybe that's underway already. Right, Maybe that's happening. 1244 00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:47,160 Speaker 1: I hope so, I mean we I think you have 1245 00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:49,560 Speaker 1: such expectations and hope for this guy that you do 1246 00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:53,600 Speaker 1: forget he's really young, he's really green still. But if 1247 00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:55,720 Speaker 1: we could look at this Murph and we're talking a 1248 00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:57,560 Speaker 1: month from now, six weeks from now about that, he's 1249 00:59:57,600 --> 00:59:59,920 Speaker 1: kept us up and you can actually see the evolution, 1250 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,960 Speaker 1: and I just I'm past that now. I My goal 1251 01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:04,640 Speaker 1: for the season for the Buffalo Bills. I want to 1252 01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:06,800 Speaker 1: see him win a playoff game. I mean, if they 1253 01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:09,160 Speaker 1: get the wild card and they win, they advance, that's 1254 01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:11,640 Speaker 1: a great season for me. And then we'll see what 1255 01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:13,920 Speaker 1: happens after that. But I know they're going to the playoffs. 1256 01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:16,720 Speaker 1: I've said, man, I think that they're gonna go. Let's 1257 01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:18,480 Speaker 1: talk a little bit about what you see in the 1258 01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:24,960 Speaker 1: in the coming weeks. The Bills have a yeah, yeah, 1259 01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:26,880 Speaker 1: I'm say against Steve, I think I lost. I was 1260 01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:29,120 Speaker 1: gonna ask you if what's in the coming weeks. You've 1261 01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:32,000 Speaker 1: got Philly coming in, You've got Washington coming in, You're 1262 01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:34,800 Speaker 1: finishing up a three game homestand the Bills have have 1263 01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:36,960 Speaker 1: kind of stacked these wins on, no question about it. 1264 01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:38,560 Speaker 1: Even in the game they lost, it was a tough 1265 01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:42,600 Speaker 1: loss to the Patriots. So but this is we're sitting here, 1266 01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:45,040 Speaker 1: we had this conversation yesterday. You don't really feel like 1267 01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:47,640 Speaker 1: the Bills. There's some sort of they're five and one, 1268 01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:50,680 Speaker 1: there's some sort of juggernauts just wiping these teams out, 1269 01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:53,720 Speaker 1: and but they do have something in them that makes 1270 01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:57,080 Speaker 1: them tough to beat. And Josh is a part of that. 1271 01:00:57,200 --> 01:01:00,080 Speaker 1: The defense is a part of that. So how know, 1272 01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:02,480 Speaker 1: what are the expectations like in the next month or 1273 01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:05,000 Speaker 1: so between Philly, Washington and some games. You know, these 1274 01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:08,680 Speaker 1: teams that a schedule that really should kind of line 1275 01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:10,720 Speaker 1: up for them to stack a bunch of wins on, 1276 01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:15,840 Speaker 1: but they're not dominating anybody. You know, if people are 1277 01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:18,120 Speaker 1: given the Patriots heat because they feel like their schedule 1278 01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:20,800 Speaker 1: has been really soft, which you know, all the Patriots 1279 01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:22,360 Speaker 1: have done and just blow the doors off of most 1280 01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:25,560 Speaker 1: of these teams. It's not exactly like Buffalo has gone 1281 01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:27,800 Speaker 1: through for the Ringer either. They haven't had the big 1282 01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:30,640 Speaker 1: tough guys, they haven't played the Saints. But all right, 1283 01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:33,479 Speaker 1: I look at Philadelphia the week Philadelphia has taken us lumps. 1284 01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:35,840 Speaker 1: It's beat up, but they have Super Bowl winners, they 1285 01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:37,920 Speaker 1: have all pros on that team. I'm going to be 1286 01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:40,320 Speaker 1: fascinated by this team this matchup because I feel like 1287 01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:42,280 Speaker 1: the way that you beat Philly, and they've shown a 1288 01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:45,040 Speaker 1: week after week is to throw the ball. It's they're 1289 01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:47,360 Speaker 1: good against the run, they're terrible against the past. Their 1290 01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:49,800 Speaker 1: secondaries beat up. So you look at someone like a 1291 01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:52,360 Speaker 1: John Brown or a Cole Beasley, like these are the 1292 01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:53,640 Speaker 1: guys who are gonna have to have a big game 1293 01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:55,280 Speaker 1: here because if you expect to just run it up 1294 01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:57,520 Speaker 1: up the gut against Philly, it's not gonna work as well. 1295 01:01:57,600 --> 01:01:58,800 Speaker 1: I think you need a big game out of the 1296 01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:01,400 Speaker 1: Bill's passing game this week, and that hasn't been called 1297 01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:03,480 Speaker 1: upon a ton this season, not when they really needed. 1298 01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:06,680 Speaker 1: I want to ask you, said you want to your 1299 01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:08,800 Speaker 1: goal is to see the Bills win a wild card 1300 01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:10,640 Speaker 1: playoff game. By the way, we're talking with Kyle Brandt, 1301 01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:12,760 Speaker 1: the host of Good Morning Football and the NFL Network, 1302 01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:15,720 Speaker 1: I got a goal for you. Get raised Trendavious White's 1303 01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:19,080 Speaker 1: profile around the league. The guy was fantastic the other day. 1304 01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:21,240 Speaker 1: I mean, and he's been that way pretty much all 1305 01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:24,360 Speaker 1: season long. Teams don't throw his way. The Dolphins through 1306 01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:27,320 Speaker 1: five targets his way and completed one pass and he 1307 01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:29,720 Speaker 1: intercepted one of the others. The guy's got to be 1308 01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:31,200 Speaker 1: one of the top five corners in the league, I 1309 01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:34,320 Speaker 1: would think, isn't he I think so too, And you know, 1310 01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:36,640 Speaker 1: I'm so glad you said that, Murph, because if I 1311 01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:39,439 Speaker 1: feel like if Trey White was a Dallas cowboy, he'd 1312 01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:43,000 Speaker 1: be in chunky super commercials. He's got an incredible personality, 1313 01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:46,880 Speaker 1: he has a cool name, He's an amazing player. I 1314 01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:49,520 Speaker 1: remember the first time he really hit my radar was 1315 01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:51,680 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago when he was all over 1316 01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:54,840 Speaker 1: Gronkowski so much that gronkoo a microchip and attacked him 1317 01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:56,960 Speaker 1: from behind. Was a really ugly scene. I said, who 1318 01:02:57,080 --> 01:02:59,040 Speaker 1: is this Trey White? He's come on the show with 1319 01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:01,440 Speaker 1: us a few times for he goes on the network 1320 01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:03,680 Speaker 1: and goes back and forth with Dion. He has it 1321 01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:06,320 Speaker 1: all going on. So you're right. I want to see 1322 01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:09,320 Speaker 1: him in some supercommercials or maybe that yogurt or something. 1323 01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:11,680 Speaker 1: But you guys know this, the only way that's happening 1324 01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:14,120 Speaker 1: for Trey White is if he's playing in January. He 1325 01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:16,080 Speaker 1: has a big pick in January. You don't get it 1326 01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:18,880 Speaker 1: with picks against Dolphins for the Buffalo Bills in October. 1327 01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:21,200 Speaker 1: So I think it is a great task and I 1328 01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:23,480 Speaker 1: will promise you this some week someday, this week on 1329 01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:26,120 Speaker 1: Good Morning Football, I'm gonna do it. Homage to Trey Way. 1330 01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:28,880 Speaker 1: This is a great pack. He deserves more. Yeah, and 1331 01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:31,120 Speaker 1: one of the things that Bills need. They're gonna need him, 1332 01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:33,840 Speaker 1: particularly even in the races they chase continue to chase 1333 01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:36,160 Speaker 1: down the Patriots. Because the Patriots made a trade today 1334 01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:38,760 Speaker 1: for Mohammed Sanu for a second round draft pick. Some 1335 01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:42,120 Speaker 1: people said they overpaid for Mohammed Sanu, but then again 1336 01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:46,200 Speaker 1: that sets the market too, perhaps for other guys who 1337 01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:49,200 Speaker 1: may move at the trade deadline. That the Patriots, they 1338 01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:52,240 Speaker 1: don't let up. As much as they beat teams by 1339 01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:55,200 Speaker 1: double digit scores, they're always trying to get better. And 1340 01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:57,200 Speaker 1: Mohammed Snow is gonna help him do that. I think 1341 01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:02,280 Speaker 1: he's he's a really good player and they really needed him. 1342 01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:05,520 Speaker 1: And as far as the Patriots relentlessness, I heard a 1343 01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:08,280 Speaker 1: quote from from Dana white Ones about the press. He's 1344 01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:11,040 Speaker 1: the president of the UFC, and someone was asked, why 1345 01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:12,520 Speaker 1: do you work so hard? You know you've made it, 1346 01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:15,040 Speaker 1: you're very wealthy. Why why is your work ethics so hard? 1347 01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:18,200 Speaker 1: And he said, look, there's always a bigger jet, you know, 1348 01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:20,760 Speaker 1: no matter how nice your jet is, someone always has 1349 01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:23,640 Speaker 1: a nicer one. It's a billionaire way of thinking. It's 1350 01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:26,320 Speaker 1: it's an empire move, as they would say in Breaking Bad. 1351 01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:29,160 Speaker 1: So I think the Patriots like, we're undefeated, we're probably 1352 01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:30,920 Speaker 1: we could probably win the Super Bowl with this lineup. 1353 01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:32,960 Speaker 1: We'll just make it work. But that's not what they do. 1354 01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:35,040 Speaker 1: They went out and get not only a good receiver, 1355 01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:37,080 Speaker 1: one of the best blocking receivers in the league. And 1356 01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:39,880 Speaker 1: I'm not making a joke when I say this, Mohammed 1357 01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:43,560 Speaker 1: Sanu is a prolific passer. He is I think the 1358 01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:47,640 Speaker 1: greatest pastor non quarterback the Leafe's ever seen. He's fantastic. 1359 01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:51,320 Speaker 1: So between him and Edelman, you're telling me there's not 1360 01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:53,280 Speaker 1: going to be some crazy trick play in the AFC 1361 01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:56,000 Speaker 1: title game book, It absolutely book it. I love the 1362 01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:57,920 Speaker 1: move for the Patriot. You'll probably whip it out December 1363 01:04:57,960 --> 01:05:02,200 Speaker 1: twenty second against the best game Why wait, yeah right, 1364 01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:04,720 Speaker 1: I don't know those I'm rolling my IC and they 1365 01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:07,400 Speaker 1: got Muhammed Sanu. You know, it's like it's a classic 1366 01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:10,840 Speaker 1: richer get richer. It's it's it's the billionaire who's playing 1367 01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:13,080 Speaker 1: the scratchers and wins two hundred grand and puts it 1368 01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:16,120 Speaker 1: as ask right, it's amazing. Some people think it's indicative 1369 01:05:16,200 --> 01:05:18,520 Speaker 1: of the Patriots making a run for it, figuring Tom 1370 01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:21,640 Speaker 1: Brady is on the back end here and getting out soon. 1371 01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:24,840 Speaker 1: What do you think it could be? Or it could 1372 01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:27,080 Speaker 1: just be. Belichick says, all right, we got a great defense, 1373 01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:30,680 Speaker 1: and look, everyone's right, we haven't really played anybody. We 1374 01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:32,920 Speaker 1: throw the ball around the Julian Adelman and some guy 1375 01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:35,000 Speaker 1: named Gunner, and we're really going to win this thing. 1376 01:05:35,040 --> 01:05:36,160 Speaker 1: Do we want to get to the title game? But 1377 01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:37,920 Speaker 1: do we want to win it? We had some firepower 1378 01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:39,919 Speaker 1: and I don't even know if they're done yet. Guys, 1379 01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:42,640 Speaker 1: they make a lineman, they may get another pass rusher. 1380 01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:45,320 Speaker 1: I remember we talked last week about the Bills go 1381 01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:48,120 Speaker 1: and get somebody. It's crickets right now. I'd love to 1382 01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:50,520 Speaker 1: see something. I don't have any action yet. Yeah, I 1383 01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:52,320 Speaker 1: gotta ask you about one thing we brought about up 1384 01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:54,440 Speaker 1: all the quarterbacks that were drafting last year's first round. 1385 01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:57,080 Speaker 1: The guy who just snuck into the first round, Lamar Jackson, 1386 01:05:57,160 --> 01:05:59,680 Speaker 1: had a really nice day up in Seattle and a 1387 01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:04,560 Speaker 1: tough game, a rainy game. They gutted it out. He's 1388 01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:08,040 Speaker 1: got to be surprising everybody who's washing him, and he 1389 01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:09,760 Speaker 1: really got to tip your hat to what the Ravens 1390 01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:13,600 Speaker 1: are doing offensively. I think John Harbaugh is one of 1391 01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:15,480 Speaker 1: the top five coaches in the league. Really, if I'm 1392 01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:18,160 Speaker 1: gonna rank my five, John Harbaugh is in there. And 1393 01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:22,520 Speaker 1: my take on Lamar is, we know he's a special athlete. Okay, 1394 01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:25,480 Speaker 1: he's very fast, he's extremely athletic, he's a good passer. 1395 01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:27,760 Speaker 1: But there's a lot of special athletes in the league, 1396 01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:30,240 Speaker 1: a lot of special anthletes a quarterback. What really made 1397 01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:33,160 Speaker 1: a difference for me was not only winning against Russell 1398 01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:36,120 Speaker 1: Westbrook in his home field, but the time that John 1399 01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:38,120 Speaker 1: Harbaugh put the kicker out for the field goal and 1400 01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:41,720 Speaker 1: Lamar campaigned and said, let's go for it. The lineman 1401 01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:43,280 Speaker 1: want to go for it. I want to go for it. 1402 01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:45,760 Speaker 1: And John Harbaugh could He easily said that's great, kid, 1403 01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:48,360 Speaker 1: I'm the coach every quarterback wants to go for it. 1404 01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:50,400 Speaker 1: He looked at Lamar said, no, get back out there. 1405 01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:52,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna send you in. What does Lamar do not 1406 01:06:52,680 --> 01:06:54,640 Speaker 1: only runs for the first down, he runs for a touchdown. 1407 01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:57,280 Speaker 1: It's like one of these great stories you hear about 1408 01:06:57,280 --> 01:06:59,200 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks on the sideline that ends up in NFL 1409 01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:01,920 Speaker 1: film someday. I don't think he's just a special athlete. 1410 01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:04,320 Speaker 1: He has something special as a leader too, And I 1411 01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:06,520 Speaker 1: think Baltimore's figures some things out after they got the 1412 01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:09,160 Speaker 1: doors blowing off by Cleveland. They're a very, very hot 1413 01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:11,600 Speaker 1: team right now. Who just took the MPP front runner 1414 01:07:11,680 --> 01:07:13,959 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson and gave him a loss in his home field. 1415 01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:16,240 Speaker 1: I love Lamar? Now, how do you not our guest 1416 01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:18,800 Speaker 1: his com brand? He's an NFL Network host of Good 1417 01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:21,680 Speaker 1: Morning Football on NFL Network. You mentioned a moment ago 1418 01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:23,640 Speaker 1: about the Eagles and how the Bills should throw the ball. 1419 01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:25,640 Speaker 1: I want to ask you, though about the overall atmosphere 1420 01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:28,280 Speaker 1: in Philadelphia where a couple of losses, a couple of 1421 01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:31,120 Speaker 1: tough losses, including a kind of a lifeless loss in 1422 01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:34,919 Speaker 1: Dallas over the weekend Eagles, there are indications that things 1423 01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:37,960 Speaker 1: maybe falling apart there right when you hear about who's 1424 01:07:38,040 --> 01:07:40,880 Speaker 1: leaking to ESPN and the coach guarantees a win doesn't 1425 01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:42,760 Speaker 1: even come close. What do you make of the atmosphere? 1426 01:07:42,800 --> 01:07:45,680 Speaker 1: Do you think around the Eagles right now? There's some 1427 01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:47,840 Speaker 1: teams I know when they're done and any we can 1428 01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:49,520 Speaker 1: close the book on them. We're in the middle of 1429 01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:51,320 Speaker 1: the season, guys, we know what most of the teams are. 1430 01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:52,800 Speaker 1: We know who's bad, we know who's good. We know 1431 01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:55,640 Speaker 1: it's going nowhere. I will close the book on the 1432 01:07:55,720 --> 01:07:58,959 Speaker 1: Eagles like I've seen people do it when Carson Wentz 1433 01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:01,480 Speaker 1: get hurts. I've seen people do it when they are 1434 01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:03,600 Speaker 1: a home underdog in the playoffs against the Vikings. I 1435 01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:05,640 Speaker 1: believe in Doug Peterson. I believe in the people on 1436 01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:08,480 Speaker 1: that team. I also believe they absolutely got their tails 1437 01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:10,919 Speaker 1: whip by the Dallas Cowboys. No showed in that game, 1438 01:08:11,200 --> 01:08:13,000 Speaker 1: but I will not count them out, and I predict 1439 01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:15,280 Speaker 1: that in December they will be making a push for 1440 01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:17,120 Speaker 1: an NFC wild card. I think they have too much 1441 01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:19,040 Speaker 1: talent and I love what they do in the front office. 1442 01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:21,920 Speaker 1: So there's some teams that are done. The Falcons are 1443 01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:24,479 Speaker 1: done right now, looking the Bears are getting close to 1444 01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:26,240 Speaker 1: looking like they're done. But I'm not going to count 1445 01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:28,000 Speaker 1: the Eagles out. You know. And it's interesting you mentioned 1446 01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:31,439 Speaker 1: about Doug Peterson. I was thinking earlier, I guess this morning. Now, well, 1447 01:08:31,479 --> 01:08:34,040 Speaker 1: this is the ultimate challenge for Doug Peterson then, and remember, no, 1448 01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:36,280 Speaker 1: it wasn't he lost his starting quarterback a couple of 1449 01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:38,360 Speaker 1: years ago and won a Super Bowl. He's they've had 1450 01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:40,599 Speaker 1: tough times there before. They fought through some stuff before, 1451 01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:44,479 Speaker 1: haven't they. Yeah, m Doug Peterson has a statue because 1452 01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:46,920 Speaker 1: he called a gimmick playoffs for the goalie. It's still 1453 01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:49,800 Speaker 1: Belichick with a backup quarterback and a backup tight end. 1454 01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:52,920 Speaker 1: He's been through some stuff. Yeah, right, yes, right, last 1455 01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:56,080 Speaker 1: thing I got for you in Indianapos, both of us 1456 01:08:56,160 --> 01:08:58,320 Speaker 1: have a relationship with Frank Reich. He's a former teammate 1457 01:08:58,320 --> 01:09:00,800 Speaker 1: and he's a good friend of mine, and Murph has 1458 01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:03,280 Speaker 1: known him also for a couple of decades as well. 1459 01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:09,480 Speaker 1: What he has done with the Indianapolis Colts is unprecedented, 1460 01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:11,240 Speaker 1: really when you think about what happened to him two 1461 01:09:11,280 --> 01:09:14,080 Speaker 1: months ago when Andrew lucked. This franchise quarterback, this golden 1462 01:09:14,160 --> 01:09:16,000 Speaker 1: wonder boy who came into the league and has been 1463 01:09:16,040 --> 01:09:20,200 Speaker 1: so good for so long, just retired unexpectedly, and with 1464 01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:24,719 Speaker 1: what we all thought was a backup quarterback, has kept 1465 01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:27,280 Speaker 1: his team not only a playoff race, but playing really 1466 01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:32,400 Speaker 1: really well. What about Jacoby Brissaid and the Colts. It's 1467 01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:34,960 Speaker 1: absolutely prolific what Frank Raik has done. And I say 1468 01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:36,760 Speaker 1: that out of full respect for all of you who've 1469 01:09:36,760 --> 01:09:38,920 Speaker 1: been invented with the Bills franchise for so long and 1470 01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:40,880 Speaker 1: what Frank did there. And I have to put a 1471 01:09:40,920 --> 01:09:42,519 Speaker 1: hand in the air. And I remember the show we 1472 01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:45,240 Speaker 1: did a Good Morning Football the day after Andrew Luck 1473 01:09:45,280 --> 01:09:48,880 Speaker 1: announced his retirement, and I just like a sucker, jumped 1474 01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:51,280 Speaker 1: right over and said, well, it's the Houston Texas Division. 1475 01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:54,120 Speaker 1: And Peter Schrager's across the table from me, shaking his 1476 01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:56,240 Speaker 1: head saying, don't give up on these teams. I said, look, 1477 01:09:56,640 --> 01:09:59,040 Speaker 1: I'm not anti cults, I'm just pro Luck. I believe 1478 01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:01,360 Speaker 1: that Andrew Luck is that Jacoby Brissette was a quote 1479 01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:04,679 Speaker 1: unquote nice quarterback. We'll put it this way. Jacoby Brissette 1480 01:10:04,720 --> 01:10:07,080 Speaker 1: used to be in the quarterback room with Jimmy Garoppolo 1481 01:10:07,240 --> 01:10:10,120 Speaker 1: and Tom Brady, the only two undefeated quarterbacks in the 1482 01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:13,080 Speaker 1: NFL right now, and Brissette is playing better than both 1483 01:10:13,160 --> 01:10:16,160 Speaker 1: of them. It's an absolutely awesome thing. And I will 1484 01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:18,000 Speaker 1: never count out Frank Wreck again. Do you think my 1485 01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:20,200 Speaker 1: entire life he's been doing that. Last year they started 1486 01:10:20,240 --> 01:10:23,040 Speaker 1: one in five, he gets to the playoffs. This year 1487 01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:26,000 Speaker 1: he loses this franchise quarterback. They're headed to the playoffs. 1488 01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:29,240 Speaker 1: You guys know, Frank Rereik's entire life, entire career in 1489 01:10:29,320 --> 01:10:31,519 Speaker 1: football has started one in five and it always ends 1490 01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:34,120 Speaker 1: up and winning. I won't do it again. I think 1491 01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:36,360 Speaker 1: Sean Payton right now is the coach of the year 1492 01:10:36,439 --> 01:10:38,920 Speaker 1: with what he's doing without Drew Brees. But Frank Rereik 1493 01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:41,960 Speaker 1: is nipping on his heels. Hey, Cale, we watched you 1494 01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:44,280 Speaker 1: guys this morning, and I think I saw angry runs. 1495 01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:46,600 Speaker 1: But were you lacking some? It didn't seem like there 1496 01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:48,120 Speaker 1: are a whole lot of angry runs to choose from 1497 01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:50,840 Speaker 1: this past weekend. Huh. You know, I don't know what 1498 01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:54,080 Speaker 1: it was. If typically it's just I get a pipeline 1499 01:10:54,320 --> 01:10:57,719 Speaker 1: from Western New York my angry. Maybe they were less 1500 01:10:57,920 --> 01:11:01,000 Speaker 1: ill tempered against the Dolphins, but I would only use 1501 01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:04,720 Speaker 1: that murph as a call out to Boston knocks, to 1502 01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:08,120 Speaker 1: Devin's single, to Josh Allen, who's won it before. Let's 1503 01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:10,120 Speaker 1: get back in the angry segment because it's really the 1504 01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:12,320 Speaker 1: segment that builds built. So let's go. We love it. 1505 01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:16,479 Speaker 1: Thanks Kyle, Thanks Kyle, Kyle break, I'm getting pub for 1506 01:11:16,640 --> 01:11:18,599 Speaker 1: Trey White and Steve Tasker in the Hall of Fame. 1507 01:11:19,080 --> 01:11:22,200 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, good luck. Don't get those mixed up, TRAYO, 1508 01:11:22,240 --> 01:11:25,439 Speaker 1: wind up the Hall of Fame and thanks Kyle. Kyle 1509 01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:27,599 Speaker 1: Brant is the host of Good Morning Football on NFL 1510 01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:30,640 Speaker 1: Network seven AM on weekdays. Right, he's he's got your 1511 01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:32,960 Speaker 1: back now man. If it gets mixed up though, TREYO, 1512 01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:34,680 Speaker 1: go to Hall of Fame and you will you have 1513 01:11:34,720 --> 01:11:38,479 Speaker 1: a goaltending in Canada, right right, right, Yeah, that's cool, 1514 01:11:38,720 --> 01:11:40,280 Speaker 1: all right, Kyle Brandt. We thank him. We want to 1515 01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:42,639 Speaker 1: get back to our discussion of the day, and it's about, obviously, 1516 01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:45,240 Speaker 1: Josh Allen. What's more important for Josh to be clutch 1517 01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:47,800 Speaker 1: as he is or consistent? What do you think? Give 1518 01:11:47,880 --> 01:11:50,360 Speaker 1: us a call? Eighth three five fifty toll free one 1519 01:11:50,520 --> 01:11:52,920 Speaker 1: eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty. We're back 1520 01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:55,439 Speaker 1: with more. One Builds Live presented by Kalida Health, Live 1521 01:11:55,479 --> 01:11:59,120 Speaker 1: from the Seneca Studio Seneca Resorts in Casino. Nothing comes close. 1522 01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:13,479 Speaker 1: Welcome back down, Murphy see Tansker one goes live. We're 1523 01:12:13,520 --> 01:12:15,559 Speaker 1: just talking believing that about hockey and the breaks He's 1524 01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:17,160 Speaker 1: going to the Sabers tonight. Yeah, it's a little bit. 1525 01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:19,240 Speaker 1: The old odd is a little bit like the old 1526 01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:24,480 Speaker 1: classic cars. What do you mean, Well, like, I inherited 1527 01:12:25,240 --> 01:12:28,960 Speaker 1: a sixty five red Mustang ragtop white top, nineteen sixty 1528 01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:31,120 Speaker 1: five Mustang with it. It's a gorgeous car, it's all. 1529 01:12:31,160 --> 01:12:33,320 Speaker 1: It's original. My father in law bought it off the 1530 01:12:33,320 --> 01:12:36,360 Speaker 1: showroom floor in nineteen sixty six. Whatever. Right, So it's 1531 01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:40,639 Speaker 1: a great car, and people think back to those times like, wow, 1532 01:12:40,680 --> 01:12:42,720 Speaker 1: it's awesome. Man, it's great. Will you get in that 1533 01:12:42,800 --> 01:12:45,000 Speaker 1: thing and drive it. There's a reason they don't make 1534 01:12:45,080 --> 01:12:48,840 Speaker 1: them like that anymore. Very nothing in it. Now. Here's 1535 01:12:48,840 --> 01:12:50,599 Speaker 1: how we got to this conversation. During the break we're 1536 01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:53,760 Speaker 1: watching the show, I'm getting into a video or the Odd, 1537 01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:55,400 Speaker 1: and I thought, man, I missed the Odd. I love 1538 01:12:55,439 --> 01:12:57,679 Speaker 1: the smell of the Odd, right, I like everything about 1539 01:12:57,720 --> 01:13:00,240 Speaker 1: the Odd. But listen, you go back and trash that. Well, 1540 01:13:00,320 --> 01:13:03,160 Speaker 1: I'm going back. It's we remember things more fondly than 1541 01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:06,000 Speaker 1: they actually were now they I don't have one bad memory, 1542 01:13:07,040 --> 01:13:11,080 Speaker 1: y I know, I know, but it's not as comfortable, 1543 01:13:11,320 --> 01:13:13,240 Speaker 1: as well lit or as nice as the one we're 1544 01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:16,840 Speaker 1: living in now. You're saying, yep, this it's more. The 1545 01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:20,880 Speaker 1: seats are more comfortable, the tunnels and the concourses are 1546 01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:23,080 Speaker 1: better now. The one thing I miss I missed the 1547 01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:26,479 Speaker 1: fried Bologny and onions that. Where can you get that 1548 01:13:26,880 --> 01:13:28,680 Speaker 1: on the concourse, the main concourse? Don't they have that? 1549 01:13:28,760 --> 01:13:30,840 Speaker 1: The poor Man's Club in the new building, they don't. 1550 01:13:30,840 --> 01:13:33,360 Speaker 1: You can't get build. You can't get fried Bologny in 1551 01:13:33,400 --> 01:13:35,720 Speaker 1: there down can't you? Somebody tweet me, tweet at me, 1552 01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:37,320 Speaker 1: let me because I can't have not been able to 1553 01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:41,439 Speaker 1: find that. But no, because I don't look. I went 1554 01:13:41,479 --> 01:13:43,759 Speaker 1: to college basketball on the odd. I went to Buffalo 1555 01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:47,200 Speaker 1: Biden's hockey games. I went to NBA. I went to 1556 01:13:47,400 --> 01:13:49,920 Speaker 1: NBA preseason games, and I went to the NBA regulars. 1557 01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:51,960 Speaker 1: I went to NBA playoff games in the ard. You 1558 01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:54,760 Speaker 1: can't beat me on the odd thing from the and 1559 01:13:54,800 --> 01:13:58,280 Speaker 1: I get it. You're right, you kind of know it's 1560 01:13:58,320 --> 01:14:01,719 Speaker 1: your spot. And you know because we those old long 1561 01:14:01,880 --> 01:14:04,880 Speaker 1: and turning closed in note you couldn't see out of 1562 01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:06,800 Speaker 1: the tunnels. They were just long tunnels that went up 1563 01:14:06,840 --> 01:14:10,639 Speaker 1: and rounded all that stuff. And it and the stuff 1564 01:14:10,680 --> 01:14:12,400 Speaker 1: that happened in there is also awesome. But let me 1565 01:14:12,439 --> 01:14:16,320 Speaker 1: tell you the physical structure itself. This one just you know, 1566 01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:19,839 Speaker 1: it's just more comfortable, man, Come on, And I equated 1567 01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:23,360 Speaker 1: to the old cars. There was like an AMFM, not 1568 01:14:23,479 --> 01:14:26,240 Speaker 1: even an FM radios, an AM radio with push buttons, 1569 01:14:26,840 --> 01:14:29,000 Speaker 1: like literal physical push buttons you had to do it with. 1570 01:14:29,200 --> 01:14:32,519 Speaker 1: And that is it in this thing. That's all there 1571 01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:37,800 Speaker 1: is in it. So now comfortable car, Yeah, that's just it. 1572 01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:41,719 Speaker 1: Though you're sitting you're sitting in a in the sixty 1573 01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:44,799 Speaker 1: five Mustang, you're sitting in a like a glorified lawn chair. Murphy. 1574 01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:48,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm telling you you talk about they didn't 1575 01:14:48,120 --> 01:14:51,040 Speaker 1: even have they didn't. You had to retro fit the 1576 01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:53,280 Speaker 1: seat belts in that thing. And you're you know, the 1577 01:14:53,400 --> 01:14:55,760 Speaker 1: speedometer goes to a buck forty or something like that, 1578 01:14:56,439 --> 01:15:00,360 Speaker 1: and you're sitting in what amounts to a bat tub 1579 01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:04,320 Speaker 1: man going down the road. You have no appreciation for 1580 01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:07,200 Speaker 1: I appreciate it greatly, but I'm just saying the reason 1581 01:15:07,240 --> 01:15:09,599 Speaker 1: they started putting more and more things and making more 1582 01:15:09,600 --> 01:15:11,679 Speaker 1: and more minute is is because people like it better. 1583 01:15:11,880 --> 01:15:14,599 Speaker 1: People are softer. Now, hey, what do you think we're 1584 01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:16,680 Speaker 1: talking about? Josh Allen today? A lot and we talked 1585 01:15:16,720 --> 01:15:19,439 Speaker 1: with Kyle brand about an Andrew brandt is nephew is 1586 01:15:19,479 --> 01:15:21,640 Speaker 1: coming up at the top of the next hour to 1587 01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:23,880 Speaker 1: talk about the business of the NFL, so'll stick around 1588 01:15:23,880 --> 01:15:25,920 Speaker 1: for that. But Josh Allen, what's more important for him 1589 01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:29,120 Speaker 1: to be clutch or for him to be consistent? We 1590 01:15:29,280 --> 01:15:32,360 Speaker 1: know he's clutch, right, five fourth quarter comebacks in seventeen 1591 01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:36,200 Speaker 1: NFL starts, highest fourth quarter passer rating of anybody in 1592 01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:39,240 Speaker 1: the NFL. I'd like to see him more consistent. Right, 1593 01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:41,080 Speaker 1: you can do both, but we're asking you to decide 1594 01:15:41,400 --> 01:15:43,920 Speaker 1: you want Josh to be more clutch or consistent. On Twitter, 1595 01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:46,280 Speaker 1: eleven hundred votes in so far, that's pretty good. Clip. 1596 01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:48,519 Speaker 1: Fifty seven percent of you say you want him to 1597 01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:51,320 Speaker 1: be more consistent. All right, I got that. Forty three 1598 01:15:51,360 --> 01:15:53,800 Speaker 1: percent say you like the fact that he's clutch. Give 1599 01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:56,479 Speaker 1: us a call. We'll discuss eight three fifty toll free 1600 01:15:56,520 --> 01:15:59,240 Speaker 1: one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty, or 1601 01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:00,920 Speaker 1: send it a tweet. We'll eat around the tweetchet. But 1602 01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:03,120 Speaker 1: I want to say something. Go ahead, yep, yep, I 1603 01:16:03,240 --> 01:16:05,360 Speaker 1: just got you gotta do. Yeah, they still have Fried blown. 1604 01:16:05,439 --> 01:16:07,280 Speaker 1: It's in the concourse behind the penalty boxes at the 1605 01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:09,360 Speaker 1: sausage stand. I haven't been there. I got it. I've 1606 01:16:09,400 --> 01:16:11,400 Speaker 1: been there. Thing's been open for twenty five years, and 1607 01:16:11,400 --> 01:16:15,000 Speaker 1: I've made it all the way around. So yeah, I'm 1608 01:16:15,040 --> 01:16:17,200 Speaker 1: gonna go there. Let me guess tell you where I'm 1609 01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:19,000 Speaker 1: gonna go tonight. Are you going for a fried blown? 1610 01:16:19,280 --> 01:16:21,519 Speaker 1: You know what's good for you too? That's important. It's 1611 01:16:21,560 --> 01:16:24,120 Speaker 1: good and it's good for you. It's a win win. 1612 01:16:24,280 --> 01:16:26,559 Speaker 1: You can get fried bologne and onion sandwiches at the Iron. 1613 01:16:26,720 --> 01:16:29,920 Speaker 1: Oh okay, this is yeah. I got restaurants climbing in right. 1614 01:16:31,000 --> 01:16:34,240 Speaker 1: It's near Section one nineteen. There's a stand there that 1615 01:16:34,280 --> 01:16:36,800 Speaker 1: sells it along with sausage and programs. Okay, it is, 1616 01:16:37,120 --> 01:16:38,840 Speaker 1: I'm there where it is again? All right, let's take 1617 01:16:38,840 --> 01:16:40,559 Speaker 1: a few phone calls, Josh Allen, what do you think 1618 01:16:40,600 --> 01:16:43,200 Speaker 1: clutch or consistent? Let's go to Kevin and what you 1619 01:16:43,240 --> 01:16:45,320 Speaker 1: got nothing else about bologny? Have you chimed in on 1620 01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:49,080 Speaker 1: what you want yet? No? I got somebody's gonna convince 1621 01:16:49,160 --> 01:16:50,800 Speaker 1: me that we're letting the fans kind of talk us 1622 01:16:50,840 --> 01:16:52,880 Speaker 1: into our own opinion because we're both kind of sitting 1623 01:16:52,920 --> 01:16:56,880 Speaker 1: on the fence. Let's go to Kevin and Kevin in Hamburg. Yes, Kevin, 1624 01:16:56,920 --> 01:17:00,840 Speaker 1: go ahead, you're on the air. Great, Yeah, all right, yeah, Um. 1625 01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:03,439 Speaker 1: I think clutches the most important because when you look 1626 01:17:03,439 --> 01:17:06,679 Speaker 1: at the legends, like Bart started the famous ice ball 1627 01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:11,679 Speaker 1: starback was Captain comeback Montana and the drive, the Ledge 1628 01:17:11,680 --> 01:17:14,479 Speaker 1: of the Catch Montana with the drive against the Bengals 1629 01:17:14,479 --> 01:17:17,280 Speaker 1: when he saw John Candy at the Indian zone Anna, 1630 01:17:17,280 --> 01:17:20,840 Speaker 1: of course, yes, Tom Brady, those were all consistent, but 1631 01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:24,960 Speaker 1: Clutch me them the icons that they were. Yeah, I 1632 01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:27,360 Speaker 1: think I kind of agree with you. If you're gonna 1633 01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:30,320 Speaker 1: swing for the fence, you don't do it being consistent. 1634 01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:33,920 Speaker 1: You know, you do it swinging. You know you gotta 1635 01:17:33,960 --> 01:17:38,280 Speaker 1: come through. You gotta come through in the moment. Reggie 1636 01:17:38,360 --> 01:17:40,800 Speaker 1: Jackson did become mister October because he was hitting home 1637 01:17:40,840 --> 01:17:44,240 Speaker 1: runs in June, right, or singles in October or singles 1638 01:17:44,280 --> 01:17:46,840 Speaker 1: in October. You do it swinging for the fence and 1639 01:17:46,920 --> 01:17:49,080 Speaker 1: the right time at the right moment. So I kind 1640 01:17:49,080 --> 01:17:51,280 Speaker 1: of agree with you. Thanks for calling. Let's go to 1641 01:17:51,560 --> 01:17:53,680 Speaker 1: Jerry and Tonawanda. Thanks for waiting. Jerry, you're on the 1642 01:17:53,720 --> 01:17:56,680 Speaker 1: air with us. Hey, guys, doing a great job. Thank you. 1643 01:17:57,000 --> 01:18:01,040 Speaker 1: I believe I think Josh is clutch, But I believe 1644 01:18:02,360 --> 01:18:04,840 Speaker 1: you need your receivers to be just as much clutch 1645 01:18:04,920 --> 01:18:08,200 Speaker 1: as Josh does, because not every pass is going to 1646 01:18:08,240 --> 01:18:11,120 Speaker 1: be perfect. So you need Josh when they had that 1647 01:18:11,240 --> 01:18:14,040 Speaker 1: perfect ratio in the fourth quarter or all these comebacks, 1648 01:18:14,240 --> 01:18:17,280 Speaker 1: if the receivers didn't catch the ball. You're right, You're right, Yeah, 1649 01:18:17,320 --> 01:18:19,840 Speaker 1: I got you, So you need I think you need 1650 01:18:20,280 --> 01:18:23,240 Speaker 1: your receivers to be just as much clutch. Aaron Rodgers, 1651 01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:27,240 Speaker 1: my god, he needs some ugly throws. But the receivers 1652 01:18:27,280 --> 01:18:28,680 Speaker 1: who were clutching, and I don't know how they came 1653 01:18:28,760 --> 01:18:30,800 Speaker 1: up with them, So I mean, I think it's kind 1654 01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:32,920 Speaker 1: of combination of both. And I think Duke Williams is 1655 01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:36,160 Speaker 1: going to be our new clutch go to guy, hopefully 1656 01:18:36,200 --> 01:18:39,200 Speaker 1: sooner than later, but down the road. But I think 1657 01:18:39,280 --> 01:18:41,559 Speaker 1: John Brown is already pretty clutch back. Yeah, they got 1658 01:18:41,600 --> 01:18:44,240 Speaker 1: some guys. I mean, I agree with you, and that's 1659 01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:46,679 Speaker 1: a that's a good call, Jerry, You're right, it doesn't. 1660 01:18:46,840 --> 01:18:50,240 Speaker 1: It's not. It's not just about the quarterback. Hey, you 1661 01:18:50,360 --> 01:18:52,160 Speaker 1: got to have a whole roster full of guys who 1662 01:18:52,200 --> 01:18:54,439 Speaker 1: are clutch. I mean, you look back and you can 1663 01:18:54,520 --> 01:18:56,760 Speaker 1: look back at them. Sorry to look back at the 1664 01:18:56,800 --> 01:19:01,080 Speaker 1: Patriots Super Bowl against the See Addle Seahawks, that kid 1665 01:19:01,400 --> 01:19:03,400 Speaker 1: puts his foot in the ground and picks that pass 1666 01:19:03,479 --> 01:19:06,840 Speaker 1: off when the Seahawks are gonna win that game and 1667 01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:10,439 Speaker 1: and just hands the Lombardi Trophy back to New England Patriots. 1668 01:19:10,479 --> 01:19:12,519 Speaker 1: So you got to have him all over the roster. 1669 01:19:13,840 --> 01:19:17,920 Speaker 1: But we're confining our question to just the quarterback, and 1670 01:19:18,360 --> 01:19:20,320 Speaker 1: I think by your answer, you probably say you'd rather 1671 01:19:20,360 --> 01:19:22,320 Speaker 1: have him be Clutch. Thanks for your calling. Let's go 1672 01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:24,320 Speaker 1: to Joe in town. I want to go ahead, Joe, 1673 01:19:24,360 --> 01:19:27,719 Speaker 1: you're on the air. Yeah, I agree, I like Clutch better. 1674 01:19:28,360 --> 01:19:31,400 Speaker 1: But I have my other question is did we even 1675 01:19:31,479 --> 01:19:35,360 Speaker 1: have a chance at Mohammed Sanu? I mean, this whole 1676 01:19:35,439 --> 01:19:39,760 Speaker 1: great season comes down to beating the Patriots in the playoffs. 1677 01:19:39,960 --> 01:19:42,439 Speaker 1: That is our whole season. To make the Super Bowl, 1678 01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:47,320 Speaker 1: we need another receiver and at least a pass rusher. 1679 01:19:47,640 --> 01:19:50,240 Speaker 1: I don't want to sit around and do nothing. And 1680 01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:53,400 Speaker 1: Los are you? Were you ready Joe to give up 1681 01:19:53,439 --> 01:19:58,200 Speaker 1: a second rounder for Mohammed Sanu? Hello? Gone, I don't 1682 01:19:58,200 --> 01:20:00,160 Speaker 1: know if I would be. I know Mohammed Sanu, well 1683 01:20:01,040 --> 01:20:02,840 Speaker 1: it will help him. But a second round pick for 1684 01:20:02,960 --> 01:20:08,240 Speaker 1: Mohammed Sanu. Yeah, generally speaking, people around the NFL folks 1685 01:20:08,320 --> 01:20:10,679 Speaker 1: and Bills fans and you listen, people around the NFL 1686 01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:14,479 Speaker 1: are saying, wow, a second rounder for Mohammed Sanu is 1687 01:20:14,640 --> 01:20:17,240 Speaker 1: a lot to pay basically. Now. Now, I'm not saying 1688 01:20:17,280 --> 01:20:19,160 Speaker 1: he's not a good player. He is. He's a really 1689 01:20:19,200 --> 01:20:23,479 Speaker 1: good player, has been productive, he's a veteran. But a 1690 01:20:23,640 --> 01:20:29,120 Speaker 1: second round pick is is a big, big ask for 1691 01:20:30,479 --> 01:20:33,160 Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcons, and that's why they made the deal. 1692 01:20:33,240 --> 01:20:36,040 Speaker 1: You think the Atlanta Falcons, sitting where they're sitting, are 1693 01:20:36,120 --> 01:20:38,920 Speaker 1: wanting to get rid of a really good player when 1694 01:20:38,960 --> 01:20:40,400 Speaker 1: they when they got to you know, still got a 1695 01:20:40,479 --> 01:20:42,920 Speaker 1: chance to stay in that division. At this early point 1696 01:20:42,920 --> 01:20:44,639 Speaker 1: of the season, they're getting rid of a really good 1697 01:20:44,720 --> 01:20:46,600 Speaker 1: player and they're taking a second rounder to do it. 1698 01:20:46,760 --> 01:20:49,960 Speaker 1: That's a big that's a that's a big price to 1699 01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:53,040 Speaker 1: pay for Mohammed Sanu. So yeah, maybe the Bills were 1700 01:20:53,080 --> 01:20:56,280 Speaker 1: in that running, but they were not willing to pay that. Um. 1701 01:20:56,920 --> 01:21:00,280 Speaker 1: I'm just reading more about this trade, and I'm schefter 1702 01:21:00,320 --> 01:21:02,599 Speaker 1: said New England had been trying to trade for Mohammed 1703 01:21:02,600 --> 01:21:05,599 Speaker 1: Sanou since before the draft, So it goes back months home. 1704 01:21:05,680 --> 01:21:07,360 Speaker 1: Maybe the you know, the Bills didn't have a real shot. 1705 01:21:07,400 --> 01:21:09,479 Speaker 1: There must have been dialogue then and the other thing. 1706 01:21:09,520 --> 01:21:12,639 Speaker 1: Sanou I didn't realize this. He's a Rutgers product. Dalchick 1707 01:21:12,920 --> 01:21:15,720 Speaker 1: loves players coming out of Rutgers. He just does the 1708 01:21:15,800 --> 01:21:19,120 Speaker 1: McCardy brothers, e An others. Rutgers players seem to find 1709 01:21:19,120 --> 01:21:23,200 Speaker 1: a home on the Patriots roster second round pick. New 1710 01:21:23,240 --> 01:21:26,360 Speaker 1: England sends a second round pick. They're desperate. Julian Edelman 1711 01:21:26,560 --> 01:21:29,200 Speaker 1: banged up with ribs, Josh Gordon with a knee, Philip 1712 01:21:29,280 --> 01:21:31,720 Speaker 1: Doors set with a hamstring on the injury report in 1713 01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:34,639 Speaker 1: recent weeks. Patriots a desperate team. And by the way, 1714 01:21:35,439 --> 01:21:37,240 Speaker 1: I think it was Schefter and others let me find 1715 01:21:37,240 --> 01:21:40,800 Speaker 1: it here are saying the Patriots were um setting up 1716 01:21:40,840 --> 01:21:45,439 Speaker 1: to move on from Tom Brady. Monday Night Countdown last night, 1717 01:21:45,479 --> 01:21:48,320 Speaker 1: Schefter expressed his doubts that Brady will return to New 1718 01:21:48,320 --> 01:21:51,200 Speaker 1: England next season. Let's hear it. We have Adam Schefter 1719 01:21:51,320 --> 01:21:54,240 Speaker 1: talking about this, right, Adam Schefter on Tom Brady's future 1720 01:21:54,560 --> 01:21:57,840 Speaker 1: with the newing the Patriots. Here's what he said last night. Okay, 1721 01:21:57,920 --> 01:22:00,800 Speaker 1: let's just boil this down to the basic facts once again. 1722 01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:03,439 Speaker 1: When we talk about Tom and his future. Let's look 1723 01:22:03,479 --> 01:22:07,400 Speaker 1: at some simple things. Has he put his home for sale, Yeah, 1724 01:22:07,439 --> 01:22:11,760 Speaker 1: but hold on, Steve. Has he put his home for sale? Yes? 1725 01:22:12,200 --> 01:22:15,599 Speaker 1: Has his trainer put his home for sale? Yes? Has 1726 01:22:15,680 --> 01:22:18,560 Speaker 1: he set up his contractive boyd after the season to 1727 01:22:18,680 --> 01:22:22,040 Speaker 1: become a free agent. Yes. So if he's selling us 1728 01:22:22,080 --> 01:22:23,960 Speaker 1: home and his trainer selling us home and he's boarding 1729 01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:27,880 Speaker 1: his contract, what does that tell you he's setting it up. 1730 01:22:28,080 --> 01:22:31,040 Speaker 1: He's setting it up and we'll see to move on. Now, Listen, 1731 01:22:31,400 --> 01:22:33,400 Speaker 1: there are many times people set up things in their 1732 01:22:33,479 --> 01:22:35,759 Speaker 1: life to move on and they walk to the abyss 1733 01:22:35,800 --> 01:22:37,519 Speaker 1: and they looked down and they say, whoa. I'm not 1734 01:22:37,680 --> 01:22:40,400 Speaker 1: jumping now. So he could change his mind, but I'm 1735 01:22:40,400 --> 01:22:42,320 Speaker 1: just telling you, if you'll look at it in his mind, 1736 01:22:42,560 --> 01:22:45,760 Speaker 1: it has to be Cliff. He's staying England comes I'll 1737 01:22:45,800 --> 01:22:48,800 Speaker 1: say this, it's setting up. I don't know whether he's 1738 01:22:48,840 --> 01:22:51,320 Speaker 1: gonna play, not play and move on. But if he, 1739 01:22:51,439 --> 01:22:54,720 Speaker 1: if he be it decide to go, where would you say, 1740 01:22:54,760 --> 01:22:57,320 Speaker 1: I'm sure there would be a half dozen franchises or 1741 01:22:57,320 --> 01:23:01,080 Speaker 1: a dozen franchises that would be intral Adam Schefter last 1742 01:23:01,160 --> 01:23:03,960 Speaker 1: night on Monday Night countdown. Many times, Adam Schefter talks 1743 01:23:03,960 --> 01:23:06,160 Speaker 1: and I shrug and saying, yeah whatever. I think he's 1744 01:23:06,160 --> 01:23:08,120 Speaker 1: speaking the truth there when you list all those things 1745 01:23:08,160 --> 01:23:10,400 Speaker 1: that Brady and the Patriots have done, and now they 1746 01:23:10,479 --> 01:23:12,400 Speaker 1: send away a second round pick about you, but last 1747 01:23:12,439 --> 01:23:15,880 Speaker 1: set to get Mohammed Sanum. Maybe they're setting themselves up 1748 01:23:15,920 --> 01:23:18,719 Speaker 1: for life, you know, for one last run with Brady 1749 01:23:18,760 --> 01:23:21,640 Speaker 1: and then life after Brady. No, yes, wishful thinking in 1750 01:23:21,720 --> 01:23:23,960 Speaker 1: my part. Yeah, I don't think Tom Brady's ever gonna quit. 1751 01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:26,560 Speaker 1: I think have to drag him out feat first. I 1752 01:23:26,640 --> 01:23:29,559 Speaker 1: think there. I think he'll play until he can't play anymore. 1753 01:23:29,920 --> 01:23:32,760 Speaker 1: Selling his house? Is that trainers selling his house, his 1754 01:23:32,880 --> 01:23:37,639 Speaker 1: contract being avoided, all that stuff. Yeah, No, that doesn't 1755 01:23:37,680 --> 01:23:39,680 Speaker 1: say anything to me. I think that's nothing to you. 1756 01:23:39,840 --> 01:23:41,360 Speaker 1: I think the guy's gonna play. I think it might 1757 01:23:41,400 --> 01:23:43,160 Speaker 1: say more to me about what they're gonna do to 1758 01:23:43,560 --> 01:23:47,320 Speaker 1: his contract. I think he's gonna go to H. I 1759 01:23:47,360 --> 01:23:49,960 Speaker 1: think he's gonna go to H. It's more likely that 1760 01:23:50,040 --> 01:23:53,920 Speaker 1: he goes to Robert Kraft and say, okay, bro, I've 1761 01:23:53,960 --> 01:23:56,560 Speaker 1: been playing for you for five million dollars under the 1762 01:23:56,640 --> 01:24:03,200 Speaker 1: market price for fifteen years, twelve years, whatever, pay up, 1763 01:24:03,520 --> 01:24:06,280 Speaker 1: give me one last go round. This is the point. 1764 01:24:06,360 --> 01:24:08,439 Speaker 1: This is the last go round, never fastening. This year's 1765 01:24:08,479 --> 01:24:10,599 Speaker 1: not making he's not getting any money. I'm lost yet 1766 01:24:11,200 --> 01:24:13,160 Speaker 1: they haven't. Let's pretty good go around. If you're gonna 1767 01:24:13,160 --> 01:24:15,360 Speaker 1: go around one last time. They haven't lost yet, and 1768 01:24:15,800 --> 01:24:17,479 Speaker 1: no one you can't really point to a loss on 1769 01:24:17,560 --> 01:24:20,439 Speaker 1: their schedule coming up. Why can't this be the last 1770 01:24:20,439 --> 01:24:22,400 Speaker 1: go round? It can be it, Well, it's not gonna be. 1771 01:24:23,240 --> 01:24:25,479 Speaker 1: You're certainly gonna mean No. I don't know anything more 1772 01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:27,240 Speaker 1: than anybody else does. I'm just not gonna I'm just 1773 01:24:27,280 --> 01:24:29,080 Speaker 1: not gonna get all my hopes. I got my hopes 1774 01:24:29,280 --> 01:24:31,240 Speaker 1: and then have Tom Brady come back and say, yeah, 1775 01:24:31,280 --> 01:24:33,160 Speaker 1: I'm forty two. I was telling you I'm gonna play 1776 01:24:33,240 --> 01:24:35,280 Speaker 1: till I'm forty five, because he said that too. I 1777 01:24:35,360 --> 01:24:37,840 Speaker 1: got my hopes up. Don't get your hopes up. Rout 1778 01:24:37,920 --> 01:24:39,519 Speaker 1: him up, don't do I gotta break here. We'll talk 1779 01:24:39,560 --> 01:24:41,680 Speaker 1: more about Josh Allen when we come back. One Bill's Live, 1780 01:24:41,720 --> 01:24:43,799 Speaker 1: presented by Collott of Health, coming here from the Seneca 1781 01:24:44,160 --> 01:24:58,880 Speaker 1: Studio in Orchard Park on Buffalo Bill's Radio. Hey, Tim 1782 01:24:58,960 --> 01:25:02,080 Speaker 1: Ferriar reads My Stone, presented by Reich Jewelers, the official 1783 01:25:02,200 --> 01:25:05,240 Speaker 1: Jeweler the Buffalo Bills. Mike hydad that forty five yard 1784 01:25:05,320 --> 01:25:08,040 Speaker 1: onside kick returned to ice it for the Bills ten 1785 01:25:08,120 --> 01:25:11,000 Speaker 1: point win. First on sidekick returned for a touchdown in 1786 01:25:11,040 --> 01:25:14,200 Speaker 1: the NFL since Taiwan Haggard did it for the Colts 1787 01:25:14,479 --> 01:25:17,759 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. Two ten third on sidekick 1788 01:25:17,880 --> 01:25:20,160 Speaker 1: returned for a touchdown by a Bill joining Greg Jones 1789 01:25:20,439 --> 01:25:23,760 Speaker 1: and Henry Jones. That's crazy, huh, Henry Jones and Greg Jones. 1790 01:25:24,439 --> 01:25:27,080 Speaker 1: I was there for Henry Jones return against Arizona in 1791 01:25:27,200 --> 01:25:30,000 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety nine. I was not there on November one 1792 01:25:30,120 --> 01:25:32,400 Speaker 1: dead Boston the Patriots when Greg Jones did it. We 1793 01:25:32,520 --> 01:25:36,320 Speaker 1: were talking yesterday about that, Stephen. How rare it has 1794 01:25:36,360 --> 01:25:39,719 Speaker 1: been for on sidekicks to be recovered by the kickoff 1795 01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:42,200 Speaker 1: team because of the new kickoff rules. There's I guess 1796 01:25:42,240 --> 01:25:43,840 Speaker 1: I didn't think of this. I knew you couldn't. You 1797 01:25:43,880 --> 01:25:46,920 Speaker 1: have to line up what certain up five guys aside 1798 01:25:47,200 --> 01:25:51,160 Speaker 1: obviously at the kickoff, right, So that's it. He can't 1799 01:25:51,200 --> 01:25:53,400 Speaker 1: overload one side. But also, as I was thinking about it, 1800 01:25:53,760 --> 01:25:55,639 Speaker 1: you can't run up now and get a full head 1801 01:25:55,640 --> 01:25:57,760 Speaker 1: of steam. Right, you got it? What's the raiding start, yeah, 1802 01:25:57,920 --> 01:26:01,760 Speaker 1: standing start, which again, your your momentum is not gonna 1803 01:26:01,760 --> 01:26:03,080 Speaker 1: be anywhere near it was when you used to be 1804 01:26:03,080 --> 01:26:05,240 Speaker 1: able to run what ten twelve yards? Yeah, you can 1805 01:26:05,280 --> 01:26:07,160 Speaker 1: cover the ground that the kick is gonna cover that 1806 01:26:07,240 --> 01:26:09,479 Speaker 1: ten yards of the kick has to go. You could 1807 01:26:09,520 --> 01:26:12,080 Speaker 1: cover it faster than the kick when you could get 1808 01:26:12,120 --> 01:26:15,760 Speaker 1: a running start. You can't do that now, right, I mean, 1809 01:26:15,800 --> 01:26:19,040 Speaker 1: it just it's just not physically possible. And did you say, 1810 01:26:19,080 --> 01:26:21,800 Speaker 1: who said something about changes in the rules maybe for 1811 01:26:21,920 --> 01:26:24,280 Speaker 1: outside kicks. Did you come up with that? No? Remember 1812 01:26:24,320 --> 01:26:27,080 Speaker 1: I said the fourth and fifteen rule or something. Yeah, 1813 01:26:27,400 --> 01:26:31,240 Speaker 1: and that was an AAF thing, okay, oh okay, yeah, 1814 01:26:31,320 --> 01:26:35,400 Speaker 1: And so they are. I think they probably will tinker 1815 01:26:35,439 --> 01:26:37,600 Speaker 1: with it because they don't want teams for it to 1816 01:26:37,680 --> 01:26:40,360 Speaker 1: be hopeless. When he's trying on side kick, I get you, 1817 01:26:40,640 --> 01:26:43,120 Speaker 1: and and right now, at this point in history, it 1818 01:26:43,240 --> 01:26:45,240 Speaker 1: is hopeless. You just can't get him. I think there's 1819 01:26:45,280 --> 01:26:46,960 Speaker 1: been one in the whole time that they've had the 1820 01:26:47,040 --> 01:26:50,360 Speaker 1: new rules, and it was Donket off some you know, 1821 01:26:50,520 --> 01:26:53,600 Speaker 1: it was a total mishap. So it's almost like a 1822 01:26:53,680 --> 01:26:56,639 Speaker 1: kneel down play now yep. So talking about Josh Hammon, 1823 01:26:56,720 --> 01:26:59,519 Speaker 1: what's more important for him to be uh consistent or 1824 01:26:59,600 --> 01:27:02,360 Speaker 1: for him to have that clutch mentality? What do you think? 1825 01:27:02,400 --> 01:27:05,360 Speaker 1: Eight three fifty toll free one eight eight eight by 1826 01:27:05,520 --> 01:27:10,280 Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty Larry on the line from South Buffalo. Hello, Larry, Yeah, 1827 01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:14,080 Speaker 1: I think you gotta go with consistency. Tell me why. Yeah, 1828 01:27:14,479 --> 01:27:18,000 Speaker 1: because it's more consistent than the best times you gotta 1829 01:27:18,040 --> 01:27:21,400 Speaker 1: be clutched. Aren't you always gonna have to be clutched? 1830 01:27:21,400 --> 01:27:23,160 Speaker 1: I mean, aren't you always gonna have to call upon 1831 01:27:23,560 --> 01:27:27,120 Speaker 1: you or your teammates to rebound from some difficult situation 1832 01:27:27,240 --> 01:27:30,320 Speaker 1: and perform. And I just think that comes with the territory, 1833 01:27:30,400 --> 01:27:33,120 Speaker 1: regardless of how consistent you can be. No, but if 1834 01:27:33,160 --> 01:27:35,639 Speaker 1: you listen, if you watch him when he is clutch, 1835 01:27:35,920 --> 01:27:38,760 Speaker 1: that's when he's the most consistent four to four, six 1836 01:27:38,920 --> 01:27:42,880 Speaker 1: or seven. Yeah, it's it's only the most consistent ten 1837 01:27:42,920 --> 01:27:44,800 Speaker 1: of eleven in the second half on Sunday when they 1838 01:27:44,840 --> 01:27:46,840 Speaker 1: went to locker room trailing at half time, ten of 1839 01:27:46,880 --> 01:27:48,880 Speaker 1: eleven in the second half. It's pretty right. I was 1840 01:27:48,960 --> 01:27:52,719 Speaker 1: consistent and touchdowns in a two point conversion. Yep. All right, Larry, 1841 01:27:52,720 --> 01:27:54,519 Speaker 1: you make a good point. Let's go to a jam 1842 01:27:54,680 --> 01:27:58,719 Speaker 1: in Utah. Hello, Jam, Hey, guys, love the show. Thanks 1843 01:27:58,760 --> 01:28:01,880 Speaker 1: for taking my call. Were welcome. Um, Steve, I just 1844 01:28:02,000 --> 01:28:04,160 Speaker 1: wanted to say, I think I'm gonna have my mom 1845 01:28:04,280 --> 01:28:07,639 Speaker 1: hand stitched what you said yesterday on a pillow hard 1846 01:28:08,040 --> 01:28:10,320 Speaker 1: sell them on a roadside stand out there and you talk. 1847 01:28:10,479 --> 01:28:13,679 Speaker 1: You can't flatter me like that? What is it again? 1848 01:28:13,880 --> 01:28:16,639 Speaker 1: Is it gratitude? No? A grateful heart leads to success. 1849 01:28:17,240 --> 01:28:19,320 Speaker 1: I mean I'd buy that pillow, Jam, I would buy 1850 01:28:19,360 --> 01:28:29,320 Speaker 1: that absolutely well. Come into an Etsy shop near you anyway, Sorry, 1851 01:28:29,360 --> 01:28:32,439 Speaker 1: go ahead, go ahead, jam, Okay. So I wanted to 1852 01:28:32,439 --> 01:28:35,479 Speaker 1: answer the question, and then I asked you guys a question. 1853 01:28:35,880 --> 01:28:38,400 Speaker 1: So to answer the Twitter poll, Um, I think I'd 1854 01:28:38,400 --> 01:28:42,719 Speaker 1: definitely rather have clutch than consistent. Um. And the reason 1855 01:28:42,840 --> 01:28:45,200 Speaker 1: for that is I've just watched a lot of quote 1856 01:28:45,280 --> 01:28:49,360 Speaker 1: unquote consistent quarterbacks for the Bills in my day, um 1857 01:28:49,800 --> 01:28:52,479 Speaker 1: and uh, and they just let me down time and 1858 01:28:52,560 --> 01:28:55,160 Speaker 1: time again. And I just rather watched Josh dig a 1859 01:28:55,240 --> 01:28:57,600 Speaker 1: hole and then climb out of it, you know, like 1860 01:28:57,760 --> 01:29:00,800 Speaker 1: he's done a couple of times this year, than watch 1861 01:29:00,880 --> 01:29:02,560 Speaker 1: him dink and done all day and not play with 1862 01:29:02,640 --> 01:29:05,760 Speaker 1: any passion. I think Josh's passion is my favorite thing 1863 01:29:05,800 --> 01:29:08,360 Speaker 1: about him as a player. It's a really, really good point. 1864 01:29:08,520 --> 01:29:10,960 Speaker 1: I can't agree more, Jam, And it's something that he 1865 01:29:11,040 --> 01:29:14,000 Speaker 1: brought here and is demonstrated since he arrived here. And 1866 01:29:14,160 --> 01:29:17,200 Speaker 1: sometimes his passion outweighs his capability, at least early on 1867 01:29:17,400 --> 01:29:19,639 Speaker 1: last year. But you're right, it's a lot of fun 1868 01:29:19,680 --> 01:29:21,120 Speaker 1: to watch. It's his development has been a lot of 1869 01:29:21,160 --> 01:29:24,360 Speaker 1: fun to watch. The question comes down to if you're 1870 01:29:24,400 --> 01:29:30,960 Speaker 1: consistently clutch, does that translate to consistently winning? Yeah? It does, 1871 01:29:31,040 --> 01:29:33,639 Speaker 1: doesn't it? Sure? Yeah, I think it does because every game, 1872 01:29:33,800 --> 01:29:36,160 Speaker 1: if you're not, if somebody's not playing good, you're gonna 1873 01:29:36,160 --> 01:29:38,200 Speaker 1: have a point in every game where ay man, we 1874 01:29:38,320 --> 01:29:41,360 Speaker 1: need this big time, right, we're gonna fall behind or 1875 01:29:41,400 --> 01:29:43,600 Speaker 1: we are behind. To getting late in the game is 1876 01:29:43,640 --> 01:29:45,759 Speaker 1: to clutch moment in the you know, and it doesn't 1877 01:29:45,760 --> 01:29:47,680 Speaker 1: have to be at the end of games either, in 1878 01:29:47,760 --> 01:29:52,040 Speaker 1: the moment where the pressures on so we need to 1879 01:29:52,160 --> 01:29:54,120 Speaker 1: rise up. You have the ability to consistently do it, 1880 01:29:54,360 --> 01:29:55,800 Speaker 1: You're gonna win a lot of games that way. And 1881 01:29:55,840 --> 01:29:57,080 Speaker 1: one more thing, Jam, I know you have it the 1882 01:29:57,200 --> 01:29:59,479 Speaker 1: question for us, she said, And this is clutch too, 1883 01:29:59,520 --> 01:30:02,360 Speaker 1: and maybe underrated clutch bills at Tennessee Titans. They get 1884 01:30:02,400 --> 01:30:06,200 Speaker 1: the ball back and run a perfect formatted offense. That's 1885 01:30:06,240 --> 01:30:08,559 Speaker 1: clutch too. You're not coming from behind. You don't get 1886 01:30:08,600 --> 01:30:11,600 Speaker 1: credit for a fourth quarter comeback there. But to be 1887 01:30:11,680 --> 01:30:14,840 Speaker 1: able to execute the offense perfectly, to keep people in bounds, 1888 01:30:14,880 --> 01:30:17,559 Speaker 1: to keep moving the clock, to run for a first down, 1889 01:30:17,920 --> 01:30:20,240 Speaker 1: to run those couple of plays they did during that sequence, 1890 01:30:20,479 --> 01:30:22,760 Speaker 1: that's clutch too, isn't it. Even even if you're not 1891 01:30:22,840 --> 01:30:26,400 Speaker 1: trailing that go ahead jam, you had something else. Yeah, 1892 01:30:26,520 --> 01:30:30,519 Speaker 1: So my question is about Josh's deep ballum and your 1893 01:30:30,560 --> 01:30:34,639 Speaker 1: experience in your mind, is that something you can improve upon? 1894 01:30:34,760 --> 01:30:38,439 Speaker 1: Because I wonder if it's something that you just naturally 1895 01:30:38,520 --> 01:30:40,960 Speaker 1: have or you don't have, or do you think that's 1896 01:30:41,000 --> 01:30:44,439 Speaker 1: something that you can get better on later? I think 1897 01:30:44,520 --> 01:30:46,920 Speaker 1: you can improve and everything you know, if you practice 1898 01:30:46,960 --> 01:30:50,120 Speaker 1: it enough. I think, yeah, absolutely you can improve upon it. 1899 01:30:50,240 --> 01:30:55,519 Speaker 1: Everything is everything is you know, something you can practice 1900 01:30:55,520 --> 01:30:57,160 Speaker 1: in football? I mean you can. You can get better 1901 01:30:57,200 --> 01:30:59,840 Speaker 1: at absolutely everything in your whole life. I mean if 1902 01:30:59,840 --> 01:31:02,280 Speaker 1: you are committed to doing it. But it sometimes it's 1903 01:31:02,520 --> 01:31:05,439 Speaker 1: it's not fun, sometimes it's not glamorous. Sometimes it's not easy, 1904 01:31:05,520 --> 01:31:08,040 Speaker 1: and sometimes it takes a lot of people to help you. 1905 01:31:08,160 --> 01:31:10,519 Speaker 1: For instance, you know, it's one thing to go out 1906 01:31:10,560 --> 01:31:13,040 Speaker 1: on a practice field and throw the ball deep and 1907 01:31:13,240 --> 01:31:16,600 Speaker 1: try and throw into a bucket, you know, or a 1908 01:31:16,840 --> 01:31:19,120 Speaker 1: garbage can like you see these guys doing. It's another 1909 01:31:19,200 --> 01:31:21,560 Speaker 1: thing to do it when you've got somebody helping you, 1910 01:31:21,720 --> 01:31:24,200 Speaker 1: like a guy rushing you with two tennis rackets in 1911 01:31:24,240 --> 01:31:26,400 Speaker 1: his hand waving to get really tall, and you got 1912 01:31:26,439 --> 01:31:28,400 Speaker 1: a guy running down the sideline and you're trying to 1913 01:31:28,560 --> 01:31:30,760 Speaker 1: time the route the same way. So if you get 1914 01:31:30,960 --> 01:31:32,760 Speaker 1: you know, some things you need a lot of help 1915 01:31:32,840 --> 01:31:34,240 Speaker 1: to get better at. But if you're willing to put 1916 01:31:34,280 --> 01:31:35,679 Speaker 1: in the work and you got people that are willing 1917 01:31:35,720 --> 01:31:38,840 Speaker 1: to help you, yes, you can get better at absolutely everything. 1918 01:31:38,880 --> 01:31:41,680 Speaker 1: And I think the long ball and Josh's case is 1919 01:31:41,720 --> 01:31:44,519 Speaker 1: certainly one of those things. Chris Chris Brown pointed out 1920 01:31:44,600 --> 01:31:46,680 Speaker 1: yesterday too, Jam And this is important. It's not as 1921 01:31:46,720 --> 01:31:49,639 Speaker 1: if look you need you'd like to see more explosive 1922 01:31:49,720 --> 01:31:52,479 Speaker 1: deep passing plays, no question, but last year, what do 1923 01:31:52,520 --> 01:31:54,880 Speaker 1: you have Chris Brown had the numbers. I want to 1924 01:31:54,880 --> 01:31:58,360 Speaker 1: say it was like fifteen sixteen percent of his completions 1925 01:31:58,360 --> 01:32:01,400 Speaker 1: where twenty year or more yard and now it's eleven percent, 1926 01:32:01,600 --> 01:32:04,439 Speaker 1: so it hasn't totally fallen off the table. I think 1927 01:32:04,840 --> 01:32:06,920 Speaker 1: he did it so often last year, or at least 1928 01:32:06,960 --> 01:32:09,400 Speaker 1: sixteen percent of the time, that you think, why isn't 1929 01:32:09,439 --> 01:32:11,240 Speaker 1: he doing that? And I just think, you know, as 1930 01:32:11,240 --> 01:32:12,840 Speaker 1: I said a couple of people yesterday, those are low 1931 01:32:12,920 --> 01:32:15,960 Speaker 1: percentage passes and I think those percentages will even out. 1932 01:32:16,000 --> 01:32:18,400 Speaker 1: I'm pretty confident they'll make some of those plays and 1933 01:32:18,520 --> 01:32:21,080 Speaker 1: moving forward. And they're working on it too. Um. Brian 1934 01:32:21,160 --> 01:32:23,519 Speaker 1: Dable talked about it yesterday, the Builds offensive coordinator on 1935 01:32:23,600 --> 01:32:25,560 Speaker 1: the lack of the deep passing game. Here's what he 1936 01:32:25,640 --> 01:32:30,360 Speaker 1: had to say. Yeah, something we're working on. Um, you know, 1937 01:32:30,439 --> 01:32:33,040 Speaker 1: we had it. We had a few a few yesterday 1938 01:32:33,840 --> 01:32:35,280 Speaker 1: when there was a little roll out there and it 1939 01:32:35,360 --> 01:32:37,200 Speaker 1: was just a tiny bit of pressure on his face 1940 01:32:37,280 --> 01:32:41,840 Speaker 1: and he launched that thing pretty good. To Dreum again, 1941 01:32:41,920 --> 01:32:46,479 Speaker 1: it's those are small percentage of the plays you call, 1942 01:32:47,640 --> 01:32:49,800 Speaker 1: and our repetitions will just keep working at it with 1943 01:32:49,880 --> 01:32:53,679 Speaker 1: those guys and skill guys line Uh Josh, well we'll 1944 01:32:53,720 --> 01:32:56,520 Speaker 1: just keep hammering away at it. Or any saying mechanically 1945 01:32:56,680 --> 01:33:01,840 Speaker 1: or the timing wise that played right. No, we've we've 1946 01:33:01,920 --> 01:33:05,240 Speaker 1: just you know, he's he's got a really strong arm, 1947 01:33:05,280 --> 01:33:07,360 Speaker 1: and I think the continuity of the people that we 1948 01:33:07,479 --> 01:33:09,040 Speaker 1: throw it to. We just got to keep working at 1949 01:33:09,040 --> 01:33:11,960 Speaker 1: that practice and getting our timing down and our arc 1950 01:33:12,040 --> 01:33:16,160 Speaker 1: and pace. Um you know, really it takes takes all 1951 01:33:16,360 --> 01:33:18,360 Speaker 1: eleven of us to do it the right way. And 1952 01:33:18,600 --> 01:33:20,960 Speaker 1: you know he's got all those new starters on offense, yeah, 1953 01:33:21,120 --> 01:33:23,439 Speaker 1: I mean, and new receiving targets and new ones coming 1954 01:33:23,479 --> 01:33:26,360 Speaker 1: in last week. Nine guys, it's coming, It's coming. I know. 1955 01:33:26,479 --> 01:33:28,720 Speaker 1: People are you know, five and one record and maybe 1956 01:33:28,800 --> 01:33:31,240 Speaker 1: you're in a effort to find what's wrong with this 1957 01:33:31,320 --> 01:33:32,960 Speaker 1: five and one record and maybe that's where you land. 1958 01:33:33,000 --> 01:33:34,720 Speaker 1: But I'm not worried about it. I think it'll come. 1959 01:33:35,080 --> 01:33:40,880 Speaker 1: Maybe I'm not. I'm not worried about it. Um. I'm 1960 01:33:41,080 --> 01:33:44,479 Speaker 1: more thinking about are they gonna win with what they got? 1961 01:33:45,439 --> 01:33:48,400 Speaker 1: Certainly if they can if they can hit the long Yeah, 1962 01:33:48,439 --> 01:33:51,040 Speaker 1: easy touchdowns are great, but they don't come along very 1963 01:33:51,120 --> 01:33:54,240 Speaker 1: often and you can't count on those. Um. So I'm 1964 01:33:54,439 --> 01:33:57,000 Speaker 1: I'm all about winning with what they're doing right now, 1965 01:33:57,080 --> 01:33:59,040 Speaker 1: with the guys they have. If they if they start 1966 01:33:59,120 --> 01:34:01,640 Speaker 1: throwing the ball and it's a completing it maybe, uh, 1967 01:34:01,960 --> 01:34:05,840 Speaker 1: you know, and certainly it'll help, as all good plays were. 1968 01:34:05,960 --> 01:34:08,000 Speaker 1: But there's nothing wrong with having a guy catched the 1969 01:34:08,040 --> 01:34:10,519 Speaker 1: short one and run for a long time either. We've 1970 01:34:10,800 --> 01:34:13,560 Speaker 1: I've seen guys I've played with and watched play do 1971 01:34:13,680 --> 01:34:15,639 Speaker 1: that as well, and that all counts as long passes, 1972 01:34:15,720 --> 01:34:19,040 Speaker 1: so I'm not I'm not missing it that much. I'd 1973 01:34:19,160 --> 01:34:22,960 Speaker 1: rather have Josh completing seventy percent of his passes than 1974 01:34:24,280 --> 01:34:28,760 Speaker 1: one long pass a game, you know, I know. Hey, 1975 01:34:28,880 --> 01:34:31,200 Speaker 1: the Dolphins came in here and lost in the middle 1976 01:34:31,240 --> 01:34:33,120 Speaker 1: of a tank. It it would appear. And our next 1977 01:34:33,200 --> 01:34:36,200 Speaker 1: guest says, what the Dolphins are doing with their approach, 1978 01:34:36,360 --> 01:34:39,880 Speaker 1: they deserve respect for the approach of the nineteen season. 1979 01:34:39,920 --> 01:34:42,040 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk with Andrew Brant about that. He is 1980 01:34:42,080 --> 01:34:45,160 Speaker 1: a Business of the NFL reporter. Andrew Brant s anybody 1981 01:34:45,160 --> 01:34:46,680 Speaker 1: to join us after the break here at the top 1982 01:34:46,720 --> 01:34:49,160 Speaker 1: of the hour, Come on back, One goes Live presented 1983 01:34:49,160 --> 01:34:52,439 Speaker 1: by Kalada Health live from the Seneca Studio, Seneca Resorts 1984 01:34:52,479 --> 01:35:10,439 Speaker 1: and Casino. Nothing comes close Time Step Clasper Banks Dome 1985 01:35:11,080 --> 01:35:22,599 Speaker 1: Banks Domes do time. Welcome back. How at number three 1986 01:35:22,680 --> 01:35:25,120 Speaker 1: we are up in running John Murphy Steave Tasker here 1987 01:35:25,200 --> 01:35:28,120 Speaker 1: until three o'clock this afternoon with One Bills Live on 1988 01:35:28,240 --> 01:35:30,600 Speaker 1: this rainy Tuesday in archerd Park. Bills players back to 1989 01:35:31,240 --> 01:35:33,360 Speaker 1: get the practice week started tomorrow as they faced the 1990 01:35:33,400 --> 01:35:35,720 Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles. One of our favorite casts on the line 1991 01:35:35,760 --> 01:35:38,040 Speaker 1: with us right now. He is the weekly columnist for 1992 01:35:38,080 --> 01:35:41,400 Speaker 1: the MMQB who covers the business of sports in the 1993 01:35:41,479 --> 01:35:43,479 Speaker 1: business of the NFL. He is the host of the 1994 01:35:43,600 --> 01:35:46,840 Speaker 1: Business of Sports podcasts and director the Moored Center for 1995 01:35:46,920 --> 01:35:49,880 Speaker 1: Sports Law at Villanova University. Happy to have Andrew Brant 1996 01:35:49,960 --> 01:35:51,720 Speaker 1: on the line with us. Andrew John Murphy Steave task 1997 01:35:51,800 --> 01:35:53,479 Speaker 1: Rupper in Buffalo, It's been a while. Good to hear 1998 01:35:53,479 --> 01:35:56,160 Speaker 1: from you again. Thanks for coming on. Yeah, I always 1999 01:35:56,160 --> 01:35:58,400 Speaker 1: a pleasure were with your guy, to be with you guys. 2000 01:35:58,479 --> 01:36:00,200 Speaker 1: And as you said, I'm up here in Villa over 2001 01:36:00,240 --> 01:36:04,160 Speaker 1: around Philadelphia, and I'll tell you, if the Bills beat 2002 01:36:04,240 --> 01:36:07,320 Speaker 1: the Eagles the sports radio I'm here in this week, 2003 01:36:08,120 --> 01:36:10,160 Speaker 1: they might they might as well sell the team. They 2004 01:36:10,280 --> 01:36:14,960 Speaker 1: must just blow it up. It sounds like after losing 2005 01:36:15,000 --> 01:36:19,280 Speaker 1: to the Cowboys, this team is Miami Dolphins country. Yeah. Well, 2006 01:36:19,400 --> 01:36:20,800 Speaker 1: you got a couple of topics here. I want to 2007 01:36:20,800 --> 01:36:23,439 Speaker 1: get to and I did look at your post on 2008 01:36:23,880 --> 01:36:27,240 Speaker 1: Sports Illustrated dot Com in praise of processing. Why have 2009 01:36:27,320 --> 01:36:30,280 Speaker 1: the Dolphins deserved some respect? We just saw the Dolphins 2010 01:36:30,320 --> 01:36:32,920 Speaker 1: here Sunday, and obviously they played the Bills pretty tough. 2011 01:36:32,960 --> 01:36:36,719 Speaker 1: But what is it about tanking that merits them some respect? 2012 01:36:36,760 --> 01:36:40,280 Speaker 1: Do you think? Yeah, and listen, I've pushed back against 2013 01:36:40,360 --> 01:36:43,160 Speaker 1: the word because of course players are not gonna not 2014 01:36:43,360 --> 01:36:46,120 Speaker 1: block or not tackle, and coaches are not going to 2015 01:36:46,280 --> 01:36:50,200 Speaker 1: not game plan. It becomes a front office decision. And 2016 01:36:51,120 --> 01:36:54,439 Speaker 1: again mentioning Philadelphia, I was neighbors for five years with 2017 01:36:54,560 --> 01:36:58,320 Speaker 1: a guy named Sam Hanky, and the whole idea of 2018 01:36:58,439 --> 01:37:03,320 Speaker 1: trust the process. You know, there's no reward in sports 2019 01:37:03,479 --> 01:37:06,720 Speaker 1: now for mediocrity. It's really there's no reward. So what 2020 01:37:06,800 --> 01:37:10,040 Speaker 1: do you do well? You can try to play on 2021 01:37:10,120 --> 01:37:13,040 Speaker 1: the edges of being a six and ten team, a 2022 01:37:13,120 --> 01:37:16,240 Speaker 1: seven and nine team, maybe in eight and eighteam, or 2023 01:37:16,320 --> 01:37:18,160 Speaker 1: you can do with the Dolphins appear to be doing, 2024 01:37:18,280 --> 01:37:22,120 Speaker 1: which is bringing it down to the studs and building 2025 01:37:22,160 --> 01:37:24,640 Speaker 1: it back up. And it's easier to do I understand 2026 01:37:25,040 --> 01:37:29,000 Speaker 1: in basketball and maybe even baseball, as the Houston Astros 2027 01:37:29,040 --> 01:37:32,200 Speaker 1: have done. But they're giving it a go. In Miami, 2028 01:37:32,520 --> 01:37:35,560 Speaker 1: and as you said, they're staying close and in a 2029 01:37:35,640 --> 01:37:39,280 Speaker 1: lot of these games they're not total blowout, so you 2030 01:37:39,320 --> 01:37:42,479 Speaker 1: know they're being competitive. But clearly their goal is not 2031 01:37:42,640 --> 01:37:45,120 Speaker 1: about this year, maybe not next year. It's trying to 2032 01:37:45,160 --> 01:37:47,880 Speaker 1: have that sustained success in the future. Yeah. One of 2033 01:37:47,920 --> 01:37:49,880 Speaker 1: the things about that, you're trying to get your team 2034 01:37:49,960 --> 01:37:52,120 Speaker 1: better every year. No question, some teams feel like they 2035 01:37:52,200 --> 01:37:55,120 Speaker 1: need to rebuild, but there are other ways to do 2036 01:37:55,240 --> 01:37:58,320 Speaker 1: it other than the front office deliberately tearing it down 2037 01:37:58,400 --> 01:38:00,519 Speaker 1: and making it so difficult to win that they get 2038 01:38:00,600 --> 01:38:02,439 Speaker 1: better draft picks. They're going to lose a lot of games. 2039 01:38:02,520 --> 01:38:05,040 Speaker 1: The other way is the debt trade deadline that's coming 2040 01:38:05,120 --> 01:38:07,800 Speaker 1: up soon. We saw the Patriots get better today with 2041 01:38:07,960 --> 01:38:10,120 Speaker 1: Mohammed Sanu, although it's cost him a second round pick. 2042 01:38:10,200 --> 01:38:12,479 Speaker 1: And now there's a trend around the NFL, and this 2043 01:38:12,600 --> 01:38:14,679 Speaker 1: is what I want to ask you about the trend 2044 01:38:14,760 --> 01:38:18,840 Speaker 1: of players demanding to be traded Jalen Ramsey, Antonio Brown, 2045 01:38:19,040 --> 01:38:21,400 Speaker 1: Levion Bell and others who have just said, you know what, 2046 01:38:21,560 --> 01:38:24,040 Speaker 1: get me out of here. How do you think that 2047 01:38:24,160 --> 01:38:27,920 Speaker 1: trend is going to affect the way teams build their squads. Yeah, 2048 01:38:27,960 --> 01:38:30,439 Speaker 1: I mean listen. Getting the buy in is important, and 2049 01:38:30,600 --> 01:38:33,360 Speaker 1: when you lose it, that's scary. I dealt with it 2050 01:38:33,439 --> 01:38:36,240 Speaker 1: a couple of times running the packers on players that 2051 01:38:36,360 --> 01:38:39,080 Speaker 1: weren't as well known, and we just try to keep 2052 01:38:39,120 --> 01:38:41,200 Speaker 1: it all in house. And of course back then we 2053 01:38:41,280 --> 01:38:46,160 Speaker 1: didn't have social media. I said this about Ramsey from 2054 01:38:46,200 --> 01:38:51,439 Speaker 1: the Jacksonville perspective, which was as management, you spear hold 2055 01:38:52,280 --> 01:38:57,160 Speaker 1: ends more than hold outs to hold outs, he's not there, 2056 01:38:58,080 --> 01:39:01,000 Speaker 1: you know, no one thinks about him, but hold ins 2057 01:39:01,280 --> 01:39:05,479 Speaker 1: like it. Peers that Ramsey was doing really are really 2058 01:39:05,560 --> 01:39:09,280 Speaker 1: tougher because you got to pay the guy. He's there, 2059 01:39:10,280 --> 01:39:13,479 Speaker 1: and you can't really suspend them unless they do something 2060 01:39:13,680 --> 01:39:17,280 Speaker 1: so on toward. But they're kind of not really there 2061 01:39:17,439 --> 01:39:20,200 Speaker 1: and they're kind of infecting the franchise and you almost 2062 01:39:20,240 --> 01:39:21,960 Speaker 1: have to get rid of them. So I get kudos 2063 01:39:22,000 --> 01:39:25,280 Speaker 1: to the jackson the Jaguars for getting two number ones 2064 01:39:25,360 --> 01:39:27,519 Speaker 1: for a player that really wasn't going to play for them, 2065 01:39:27,560 --> 01:39:30,200 Speaker 1: and if he did, it wouldn't have been wholeheartedle So 2066 01:39:31,200 --> 01:39:36,080 Speaker 1: those are tough, and I think Steve the answer is yes, 2067 01:39:36,200 --> 01:39:39,200 Speaker 1: I've been tweeting about this. If you're Antonio Brown, if 2068 01:39:39,240 --> 01:39:42,240 Speaker 1: you're Zeke Elliott if you're Jadeveon, Clowney if you're jail 2069 01:39:42,320 --> 01:39:45,840 Speaker 1: And Ramsey if you're Anaron Donald. And I'm talking about 2070 01:39:45,840 --> 01:39:49,759 Speaker 1: either forcing contracts through the training camp or forcing trades. 2071 01:39:50,840 --> 01:39:53,360 Speaker 1: You know, I guess now you can do that because 2072 01:39:53,800 --> 01:39:58,040 Speaker 1: leverage is everything. Talent creates leverage. But we've got another 2073 01:39:58,120 --> 01:40:02,280 Speaker 1: example out there named Melvin Orton, which is basically saying 2074 01:40:02,760 --> 01:40:07,720 Speaker 1: you better be special because if you're not elite, you're 2075 01:40:07,800 --> 01:40:10,479 Speaker 1: not it's not going to happen for you. But yes, 2076 01:40:10,840 --> 01:40:14,760 Speaker 1: Ramsey's elite, Clowney's elite. I mean, those guys can make 2077 01:40:14,800 --> 01:40:18,479 Speaker 1: it happen. So I think somewhat like the NBA. You know, 2078 01:40:18,640 --> 01:40:21,559 Speaker 1: we're we're now a little bit more star driven league, 2079 01:40:21,600 --> 01:40:24,000 Speaker 1: and they're going to have leverage that others don't. Do. 2080 01:40:24,200 --> 01:40:27,719 Speaker 1: The talent change the leverage or the money that they're paying, 2081 01:40:27,800 --> 01:40:31,040 Speaker 1: change the leverage changer. I think it's talent. I just 2082 01:40:31,200 --> 01:40:35,479 Speaker 1: think that you know, Jalen Ramsey is going to draw 2083 01:40:35,880 --> 01:40:39,080 Speaker 1: at least the one, and we saw now want two 2084 01:40:39,160 --> 01:40:43,360 Speaker 1: ones and there. Yeah. I mean, but if you're a 2085 01:40:43,439 --> 01:40:46,080 Speaker 1: player that says I don't want to be there and 2086 01:40:46,560 --> 01:40:48,680 Speaker 1: with them, you can't get a good trade out of 2087 01:40:48,720 --> 01:40:51,400 Speaker 1: the out of the marketplace. Well, you got to come 2088 01:40:51,439 --> 01:40:56,080 Speaker 1: back with your tail between your legs, like Melvin Gordon. Well, also, 2089 01:40:56,960 --> 01:41:00,240 Speaker 1: it's one of the things last year, and it was 2090 01:41:00,320 --> 01:41:03,800 Speaker 1: the most for me. It was years ago there was 2091 01:41:04,000 --> 01:41:06,000 Speaker 1: not very many trades in the NFL. It just didn't 2092 01:41:06,040 --> 01:41:07,880 Speaker 1: happen that much. And now we're seeing them more and 2093 01:41:08,000 --> 01:41:10,519 Speaker 1: more and more where teams are getting to the point 2094 01:41:10,600 --> 01:41:13,960 Speaker 1: where they can acclimate a guy fast enough during season 2095 01:41:14,040 --> 01:41:16,519 Speaker 1: to get some return for that. Usually, you know, because 2096 01:41:16,560 --> 01:41:18,600 Speaker 1: that was always the big thing. You couldn't get a 2097 01:41:18,640 --> 01:41:21,120 Speaker 1: guy up to speed in your offensive, in your defensive 2098 01:41:21,200 --> 01:41:23,920 Speaker 1: terminology to get a contribution for them if you're going 2099 01:41:23,960 --> 01:41:26,479 Speaker 1: to trade for them during season. That's kind of changed. Now. 2100 01:41:26,640 --> 01:41:30,400 Speaker 1: Do you expect that you expect the deadline this year 2101 01:41:30,479 --> 01:41:32,280 Speaker 1: to be as active as it was a year ago? 2102 01:41:33,320 --> 01:41:35,280 Speaker 1: I think so. I mean, I think we've all obviously 2103 01:41:35,280 --> 01:41:37,840 Speaker 1: already seen a bunch and today's deal with Tonu is 2104 01:41:37,840 --> 01:41:40,640 Speaker 1: a big one as well. It's just something where I 2105 01:41:40,760 --> 01:41:43,080 Speaker 1: don't know the answer, Steve. I think you know, we 2106 01:41:43,160 --> 01:41:46,839 Speaker 1: can say more cap room, teams have to accommodate these players. 2107 01:41:47,520 --> 01:41:51,880 Speaker 1: I'm not sure that's really the answer. More active gms 2108 01:41:52,120 --> 01:41:55,679 Speaker 1: you know, it's a copycat league. Two years ago, Howie 2109 01:41:55,800 --> 01:41:58,000 Speaker 1: Roseman made a lot of trades and they won the 2110 01:41:58,080 --> 01:42:01,439 Speaker 1: Super Bowl in Philly, and maybe there's some copycat going 2111 01:42:01,520 --> 01:42:03,920 Speaker 1: on with that. Bill Belichick makes a lot of trades. 2112 01:42:05,439 --> 01:42:08,160 Speaker 1: The Rams have been successful, making a lot of trades. 2113 01:42:09,200 --> 01:42:11,599 Speaker 1: I just think that, you know, we just talked about 2114 01:42:11,720 --> 01:42:14,160 Speaker 1: the Dolphin. Then there's the other end of the spectrum 2115 01:42:14,800 --> 01:42:17,240 Speaker 1: where the teams are like, no, we're doing it now, 2116 01:42:17,439 --> 01:42:20,960 Speaker 1: we don't we don't care about twenty twenty. And I 2117 01:42:21,080 --> 01:42:23,960 Speaker 1: put the Rams and in some cases the Patriots into 2118 01:42:24,040 --> 01:42:27,400 Speaker 1: that category, like we're not thinking about the future right now. 2119 01:42:27,479 --> 01:42:31,280 Speaker 1: We just want to go. And I guess the downside 2120 01:42:31,320 --> 01:42:36,080 Speaker 1: to the Rams is if they don't win now, they've 2121 01:42:36,120 --> 01:42:38,040 Speaker 1: got it. They've got an older roster. You know, they 2122 01:42:38,120 --> 01:42:41,880 Speaker 1: signed Claim Matthews, they signed Wettall, and big contracts for 2123 01:42:42,000 --> 01:42:45,800 Speaker 1: Girle and Cooks and of course golf and no draft picks, 2124 01:42:46,000 --> 01:42:49,479 Speaker 1: so they better win. Yeah, we're with and your brand. 2125 01:42:49,560 --> 01:42:52,200 Speaker 1: He covers the business of the NFL for MMQB and 2126 01:42:52,439 --> 01:42:55,280 Speaker 1: SI dot com um. Last week at the owners meetings, 2127 01:42:55,320 --> 01:42:58,840 Speaker 1: there was a little rumbled about the CBA talks between 2128 01:42:58,880 --> 01:43:02,200 Speaker 1: the Players Association and the owners and indications of some 2129 01:43:02,400 --> 01:43:05,320 Speaker 1: optimism about a deal perhaps being struck. Is that real 2130 01:43:05,400 --> 01:43:07,680 Speaker 1: do you think, Andrew? And what issues might remain on 2131 01:43:07,800 --> 01:43:11,600 Speaker 1: the table in those talks? You know, I've heard it 2132 01:43:11,800 --> 01:43:14,400 Speaker 1: enough John, where I think it's got to be real 2133 01:43:14,520 --> 01:43:16,960 Speaker 1: where there's a positive energy about it, and there should 2134 01:43:17,000 --> 01:43:20,120 Speaker 1: be from the owner's perspective, because when they get this 2135 01:43:20,280 --> 01:43:22,479 Speaker 1: deal done, then they go to the networks and those 2136 01:43:22,560 --> 01:43:24,920 Speaker 1: going to be massive deals and they can't really go 2137 01:43:25,080 --> 01:43:29,680 Speaker 1: to them without labor certainty going forward. So that's the 2138 01:43:30,280 --> 01:43:32,360 Speaker 1: leverage the players have. The owners want to get the 2139 01:43:32,439 --> 01:43:36,320 Speaker 1: TV deals done afterwards. But I always get back to 2140 01:43:36,520 --> 01:43:38,439 Speaker 1: what do the players have to offer? That's really the 2141 01:43:38,640 --> 01:43:41,599 Speaker 1: key question to me is if I'm in the goat 2142 01:43:41,720 --> 01:43:45,920 Speaker 1: negotiation and players want something, and of course they want something, 2143 01:43:45,960 --> 01:43:48,080 Speaker 1: they want to better split on the revenues number one, 2144 01:43:49,080 --> 01:43:52,600 Speaker 1: and then all these little items, relatively little items like 2145 01:43:52,840 --> 01:43:56,640 Speaker 1: franchise tag restrictions, like better chance for rookies to hit, 2146 01:43:56,720 --> 01:44:01,479 Speaker 1: free agency, like commissioner power, like marijuana on all those things, 2147 01:44:01,560 --> 01:44:04,240 Speaker 1: really like, Okay, what are you going to give for that? 2148 01:44:04,920 --> 01:44:06,639 Speaker 1: What do you have? What do you have to give? 2149 01:44:07,720 --> 01:44:10,080 Speaker 1: And the only thing of value that they have to 2150 01:44:10,160 --> 01:44:12,880 Speaker 1: give is an extra game or two, but it sounds 2151 01:44:12,880 --> 01:44:17,720 Speaker 1: like Adell only wants one seventeen, So that's got to 2152 01:44:17,800 --> 01:44:20,599 Speaker 1: be part of it in my equation. Yeah, I agree 2153 01:44:20,600 --> 01:44:22,880 Speaker 1: with you that there's only so much leverage the players 2154 01:44:22,960 --> 01:44:26,519 Speaker 1: have unless they're willing to hold that that strike over 2155 01:44:26,600 --> 01:44:28,320 Speaker 1: the head of the owners and start hitting them in 2156 01:44:28,360 --> 01:44:30,479 Speaker 1: the pocketbook. I mean, and that's a long way off 2157 01:44:30,800 --> 01:44:32,920 Speaker 1: as well. Do you think that the NFL could ever 2158 01:44:33,000 --> 01:44:35,000 Speaker 1: get to a point where the relationship with the league 2159 01:44:35,040 --> 01:44:38,439 Speaker 1: like the NBA does, where they're they're seeing more as 2160 01:44:38,520 --> 01:44:45,720 Speaker 1: partners rather than labor management. Yeah, I mean, listen, a 2161 01:44:45,800 --> 01:44:49,080 Speaker 1: full disclosure. You know, I was approached about running for 2162 01:44:49,160 --> 01:44:52,640 Speaker 1: that position a couple of times. I'd elected not to 2163 01:44:52,880 --> 01:44:55,560 Speaker 1: for a lot of reasons. Which positions at Andrew and 2164 01:44:55,720 --> 01:45:00,960 Speaker 1: that's the position of Damri Smith. And you know, listen, 2165 01:45:01,080 --> 01:45:05,880 Speaker 1: he's a combative guy with Goodell and that's served him 2166 01:45:05,920 --> 01:45:10,479 Speaker 1: well with his constituency. So when you ask that question, 2167 01:45:11,040 --> 01:45:14,080 Speaker 1: I don't think so with this leadership. I just think 2168 01:45:14,200 --> 01:45:19,120 Speaker 1: that they have. He has run on the platform of 2169 01:45:19,320 --> 01:45:24,280 Speaker 1: litigation and being never closing up to Goodell and being 2170 01:45:24,600 --> 01:45:29,679 Speaker 1: an irritant to the NFL. And again that has served 2171 01:45:29,760 --> 01:45:34,439 Speaker 1: him well with his constituency in the NFLPA. Michelle Roberts 2172 01:45:34,479 --> 01:45:37,760 Speaker 1: over at the NBPA has sort of taken a much 2173 01:45:37,840 --> 01:45:42,120 Speaker 1: more conciliatory tone towards Adam Silver, and that's what we 2174 01:45:42,240 --> 01:45:46,360 Speaker 1: have there. But you know, we've got this disparate relationship 2175 01:45:46,439 --> 01:45:50,000 Speaker 1: between leadership of the NFL and NFLPA. Hey, lasting I 2176 01:45:50,120 --> 01:45:52,640 Speaker 1: have for you, Andrew, it's about I know, I think 2177 01:45:52,680 --> 01:45:56,200 Speaker 1: you're pretty close and consider yourself close with Aaron Rodgers. 2178 01:45:56,640 --> 01:45:59,280 Speaker 1: It's almost a career resurgence there, not that he needed one, 2179 01:45:59,360 --> 01:46:01,559 Speaker 1: but it's pretty amazing what's gone on in Green Bay 2180 01:46:01,640 --> 01:46:04,320 Speaker 1: with Rogers and especially his relationship with his brand new 2181 01:46:04,400 --> 01:46:07,639 Speaker 1: young head coach, isn't it. Yeah. I had a great 2182 01:46:07,640 --> 01:46:09,120 Speaker 1: game the other day, and I chalk it up to 2183 01:46:09,200 --> 01:46:12,439 Speaker 1: of course me being there. Yes, take all the credit 2184 01:46:12,479 --> 01:46:16,400 Speaker 1: you can. Yeah, I saw him on Sunday more Sunday 2185 01:46:16,400 --> 01:46:20,920 Speaker 1: afternoon after the game. Listen, the amazing thing about the 2186 01:46:21,000 --> 01:46:25,640 Speaker 1: Packers was before Sunday that they opened up five and 2187 01:46:25,800 --> 01:46:30,000 Speaker 1: one without an offense, really with kind of an offense 2188 01:46:30,120 --> 01:46:33,200 Speaker 1: being learned on the go, and of course it jailed 2189 01:46:33,320 --> 01:46:36,400 Speaker 1: finally on Sunday, but you know that puts them in 2190 01:46:36,400 --> 01:46:39,240 Speaker 1: a really strong position in my mind, where they're doing 2191 01:46:39,320 --> 01:46:43,960 Speaker 1: this without their best receiver, and there are six and 2192 01:46:44,120 --> 01:46:47,160 Speaker 1: one and haven't really played a good game on both sides. 2193 01:46:48,080 --> 01:46:51,120 Speaker 1: So they're in good stead in the NFC, you know, 2194 01:46:51,280 --> 01:46:54,479 Speaker 1: right there, along with San Francisco and New Orleans. We'll 2195 01:46:54,520 --> 01:46:57,360 Speaker 1: see where it all shakes out. Hey, Andrew, thanks for this. 2196 01:46:57,439 --> 01:46:59,559 Speaker 1: It's always great to catch up. We appreciate you making 2197 01:46:59,600 --> 01:47:02,680 Speaker 1: yourself available. Thank you very much. Likewise, we'll do it 2198 01:47:02,720 --> 01:47:06,040 Speaker 1: again soon, okay. Andrew Brandt is the weekly countess on 2199 01:47:06,160 --> 01:47:09,280 Speaker 1: the business of football and the NFL for the MMQB 2200 01:47:09,439 --> 01:47:11,360 Speaker 1: and SI dot com, the host of the Business of 2201 01:47:11,439 --> 01:47:15,080 Speaker 1: Sports podcast, director of the Morad Center for Sports Law 2202 01:47:15,400 --> 01:47:19,519 Speaker 1: at Villanova University. Interesting comments. I thought about the Dolphins, 2203 01:47:20,479 --> 01:47:22,800 Speaker 1: and I get it right. You know, what, what what 2204 01:47:23,000 --> 01:47:24,640 Speaker 1: is the tank? We've had this show before, haven't we 2205 01:47:24,680 --> 01:47:27,000 Speaker 1: What is the tank? What constitutes the tank? It looks 2206 01:47:27,000 --> 01:47:29,200 Speaker 1: like the Dolphins are tanking. Others will say this is 2207 01:47:29,280 --> 01:47:32,280 Speaker 1: what you do. You reset, you build with young players 2208 01:47:32,320 --> 01:47:35,880 Speaker 1: and accumulate traft picks. I don't like it. It's very 2209 01:47:35,920 --> 01:47:38,640 Speaker 1: painful to watch, but maybe there's some benefit to that. 2210 01:47:38,760 --> 01:47:42,719 Speaker 1: What do you think? I don't think it is really 2211 01:47:42,800 --> 01:47:45,960 Speaker 1: a good way to go because there's so many pieces 2212 01:47:46,000 --> 01:47:48,840 Speaker 1: that you have to acquire to be successful football teams, 2213 01:47:48,880 --> 01:47:51,840 Speaker 1: so not hockey or basketball. It's important. Yeah, certainly if 2214 01:47:51,880 --> 01:47:55,120 Speaker 1: you have a great quarterback, Yeah, okay, that's you know, 2215 01:47:55,160 --> 01:47:57,519 Speaker 1: it sells tickets. And certainly the guys are gonna give 2216 01:47:57,520 --> 01:48:00,080 Speaker 1: your offense a chance to be successful. But you know, 2217 01:48:00,160 --> 01:48:02,120 Speaker 1: how good as he going to be without an offensive line? 2218 01:48:02,120 --> 01:48:03,519 Speaker 1: And how good are you going to be without wide 2219 01:48:03,560 --> 01:48:05,880 Speaker 1: receivers and running backs in a running game? And are 2220 01:48:05,920 --> 01:48:08,080 Speaker 1: you gonna be like the Kansas City Chiefs last year 2221 01:48:08,200 --> 01:48:11,040 Speaker 1: where they couldn't stop anybody? And is that going to 2222 01:48:11,120 --> 01:48:14,880 Speaker 1: cost you some games? The simple fact of the matters. 2223 01:48:14,920 --> 01:48:17,120 Speaker 1: The Dolphins have done it, so they've got all these 2224 01:48:17,280 --> 01:48:21,479 Speaker 1: draft picks aligned to come together. And then well look 2225 01:48:21,520 --> 01:48:23,880 Speaker 1: at the most recent team to do it, the Cleveland Browns. 2226 01:48:24,240 --> 01:48:27,400 Speaker 1: They were one and thirty one and thirty one oh 2227 01:48:27,520 --> 01:48:30,720 Speaker 1: and sixteen and one and six fifteen, and they got 2228 01:48:30,760 --> 01:48:34,240 Speaker 1: all these draft picks, and they also got some high 2229 01:48:34,360 --> 01:48:39,880 Speaker 1: profile free agents, and certainly they're a much different team 2230 01:48:39,920 --> 01:48:42,320 Speaker 1: to watch this year, and certainly they're the only team 2231 01:48:42,360 --> 01:48:45,640 Speaker 1: we've seen the go one and whatever they were they 2232 01:48:45,680 --> 01:48:47,800 Speaker 1: went through that one last half of last season where 2233 01:48:47,800 --> 01:48:49,479 Speaker 1: they actually won a lot at some games went what 2234 01:48:49,600 --> 01:48:52,000 Speaker 1: eight and eight, mate, did they or seven and nine? 2235 01:48:52,040 --> 01:48:54,960 Speaker 1: I think they're seven to nine, which last year went 2236 01:48:55,000 --> 01:48:56,800 Speaker 1: in six out of the last eight or something like that. 2237 01:48:57,320 --> 01:48:59,519 Speaker 1: And there was a lot of a lot of optimism 2238 01:48:59,520 --> 01:49:03,600 Speaker 1: about how good they could be. Well, and let's face it, 2239 01:49:03,960 --> 01:49:07,280 Speaker 1: they went through a lot of years to get there 2240 01:49:07,400 --> 01:49:10,479 Speaker 1: and you know, this year out of pain, they're not 2241 01:49:10,560 --> 01:49:13,479 Speaker 1: there yet. Yeah, I mean they're they've got other issues. 2242 01:49:13,479 --> 01:49:16,120 Speaker 1: The other issues arise. So it's not just about having 2243 01:49:16,200 --> 01:49:19,240 Speaker 1: the assets on the field, these great players and a 2244 01:49:19,320 --> 01:49:21,160 Speaker 1: young quarterback and all that. You gotta have a head 2245 01:49:21,160 --> 01:49:24,240 Speaker 1: coach who knows what he's doing, a defensive coordinator, he 2246 01:49:24,280 --> 01:49:28,760 Speaker 1: knows what he's doing. I mean, there's you know, it's 2247 01:49:28,840 --> 01:49:31,840 Speaker 1: hard to put all that together. It's really difficult to 2248 01:49:31,880 --> 01:49:33,479 Speaker 1: put all that together. And you know, you look at 2249 01:49:33,560 --> 01:49:35,920 Speaker 1: what happened, what the way they do it in New England. 2250 01:49:37,560 --> 01:49:40,760 Speaker 1: You know, yeah, we've seen we've seen Josh McDaniel the 2251 01:49:40,800 --> 01:49:42,680 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator for a lot of years, right he was 2252 01:49:42,760 --> 01:49:44,640 Speaker 1: for a minute he was a head coach of the 2253 01:49:45,840 --> 01:49:49,360 Speaker 1: Denver Broncos. But for the way the Patriots do it. 2254 01:49:50,040 --> 01:49:52,040 Speaker 1: They have a ton of young young people in the 2255 01:49:52,080 --> 01:49:56,880 Speaker 1: bottom of the coaching staff doing who knows what, assimilating information. 2256 01:49:57,040 --> 01:50:02,360 Speaker 1: Really basically, they got I'm watching film, scouting teams, looking 2257 01:50:02,400 --> 01:50:05,360 Speaker 1: at teams, watching teams websites, looking at their practice schedule, 2258 01:50:05,439 --> 01:50:07,320 Speaker 1: looking at all this other stuff. They bring it together 2259 01:50:07,320 --> 01:50:10,479 Speaker 1: and then through that whole big pool of young people, 2260 01:50:10,520 --> 01:50:13,120 Speaker 1: they start to elevate from within their own team. So 2261 01:50:13,200 --> 01:50:15,160 Speaker 1: they don't go out and find try and get it 2262 01:50:15,320 --> 01:50:18,200 Speaker 1: right with some guy from another team, another organization, or 2263 01:50:18,240 --> 01:50:20,400 Speaker 1: who played good in college or looked good like a 2264 01:50:20,439 --> 01:50:23,320 Speaker 1: good college. They grew him in house, in their own 2265 01:50:23,320 --> 01:50:27,559 Speaker 1: little green yard in a greenhouse, right, they grew him themselves. 2266 01:50:29,280 --> 01:50:33,000 Speaker 1: Matt Patricia, who is that, Well, we wouldn't known who 2267 01:50:33,040 --> 01:50:35,560 Speaker 1: he was until he grew up through the ranks of 2268 01:50:35,600 --> 01:50:41,160 Speaker 1: the Patriots organization. Flores down in Miami. I didn't know 2269 01:50:41,200 --> 01:50:44,640 Speaker 1: who that guy is. He grew up and was just 2270 01:50:44,840 --> 01:50:48,160 Speaker 1: stated inside the Patriots. They do it from within. The 2271 01:50:48,280 --> 01:50:52,280 Speaker 1: next head coach of the Patriots probably gonna be Josh McDaniels. Yeah, 2272 01:50:53,040 --> 01:50:57,240 Speaker 1: you know. So that's the way they do it. And 2273 01:50:58,479 --> 01:50:59,880 Speaker 1: I know people don't want to hear it, but man, 2274 01:51:00,040 --> 01:51:04,479 Speaker 1: oh man, that they're pretty successful. I think. You know, 2275 01:51:04,840 --> 01:51:06,479 Speaker 1: so if you want to you know, you got to 2276 01:51:06,479 --> 01:51:08,519 Speaker 1: get a programming place and you hang in there with 2277 01:51:08,680 --> 01:51:12,240 Speaker 1: it through the thick and thin. You don't have to 2278 01:51:12,360 --> 01:51:14,120 Speaker 1: tear it. You don't have to throw everybody out the 2279 01:51:14,240 --> 01:51:19,479 Speaker 1: door and starts fresh. That's especially includes the players. I 2280 01:51:19,600 --> 01:51:23,360 Speaker 1: think the Bills are an interesting case study when it 2281 01:51:23,400 --> 01:51:27,040 Speaker 1: comes to tanking or near tanking. And look, they made 2282 01:51:27,080 --> 01:51:29,479 Speaker 1: it clear in the first two years here. Now they 2283 01:51:30,040 --> 01:51:32,680 Speaker 1: fell into the playoffs in twenty seventeen and took a 2284 01:51:32,720 --> 01:51:35,720 Speaker 1: step back in the record and the standings last year, 2285 01:51:36,080 --> 01:51:38,479 Speaker 1: but they managed to accomplish what they needed to do, 2286 01:51:38,720 --> 01:51:41,560 Speaker 1: which was clear the cap out, get their type of 2287 01:51:41,600 --> 01:51:45,479 Speaker 1: players from a character and culture sense, draft well and 2288 01:51:45,640 --> 01:51:48,479 Speaker 1: found a potential franchise quarterback. And they did that without 2289 01:51:48,720 --> 01:51:52,040 Speaker 1: falling to the bottom. They refurbished their coaching staff too. Yeah, yeah, 2290 01:51:52,080 --> 01:51:54,000 Speaker 1: that's how it started in twenty seven. Yeah, it made 2291 01:51:54,000 --> 01:51:56,400 Speaker 1: another change and then changes after this last year. They 2292 01:51:56,520 --> 01:51:59,680 Speaker 1: did that without without hitting rock bottom, which to me 2293 01:51:59,840 --> 01:52:01,200 Speaker 1: is the right way to do it in the NFL. 2294 01:52:01,280 --> 01:52:03,479 Speaker 1: We'll see and by the way, the Bills are five 2295 01:52:03,560 --> 01:52:05,479 Speaker 1: and one. They haven't really and I'm one they ultimate 2296 01:52:05,520 --> 01:52:07,360 Speaker 1: straight and I'm telling you this too. I say it 2297 01:52:07,400 --> 01:52:09,560 Speaker 1: all the time. People pooh poo. Mean when I say this, 2298 01:52:09,920 --> 01:52:11,840 Speaker 1: they were two bounces of the ball last year from 2299 01:52:11,840 --> 01:52:14,080 Speaker 1: getting two more wins. They weren't that. They weren't bottomed 2300 01:52:14,120 --> 01:52:17,760 Speaker 1: out yesterday last year. That's right. Not every year, there's 2301 01:52:17,760 --> 01:52:19,920 Speaker 1: some of these. You think Miami's two bounced away from 2302 01:52:20,080 --> 01:52:22,000 Speaker 1: two more wins, they were probably two bounces away from 2303 01:52:22,040 --> 01:52:25,080 Speaker 1: a win here something one. So anyway you think about it, 2304 01:52:25,160 --> 01:52:27,599 Speaker 1: I mean, it's a week to week league, and even 2305 01:52:28,040 --> 01:52:31,800 Speaker 1: bottom and out should only mean maybe what six and ten? Right, Yeah, 2306 01:52:32,280 --> 01:52:34,920 Speaker 1: I mean that if you're if you're getting it together, 2307 01:52:35,040 --> 01:52:37,320 Speaker 1: finding your guys and you've got the right people in place, 2308 01:52:37,439 --> 01:52:42,360 Speaker 1: you should be able to rebuild your squad without go 2309 01:52:42,640 --> 01:52:46,080 Speaker 1: and oh and sixteen one and fifteen, two and fourteen. 2310 01:52:46,640 --> 01:52:49,120 Speaker 1: That's a tough season. That is a tough season to 2311 01:52:49,200 --> 01:52:53,840 Speaker 1: live through for everybody. But I think you know, if 2312 01:52:53,920 --> 01:52:57,439 Speaker 1: you're if you're going one and fifteen and you know whatever, 2313 01:52:57,920 --> 01:53:01,559 Speaker 1: win in two games or less or three games or less, 2314 01:53:01,600 --> 01:53:03,920 Speaker 1: maybe I think you got to question the direction you're 2315 01:53:03,960 --> 01:53:07,240 Speaker 1: headed in because if you I mean, or how you 2316 01:53:07,400 --> 01:53:12,400 Speaker 1: got there anyway, it's it's a competitive league, no question, 2317 01:53:12,479 --> 01:53:16,160 Speaker 1: it's really difficult to win in. But when it is 2318 01:53:16,680 --> 01:53:18,920 Speaker 1: not hard to get beat on a Sunday even with 2319 01:53:19,040 --> 01:53:22,000 Speaker 1: the best players, you're right, all right, we're talking about 2320 01:53:22,080 --> 01:53:24,040 Speaker 1: johnh Allon today. We want you to join in. More 2321 01:53:24,120 --> 01:53:28,599 Speaker 1: important for Josh to be consistent or to be clutch. 2322 01:53:28,920 --> 01:53:31,320 Speaker 1: He's been pretty clutch. Best fourth quarter passer in the 2323 01:53:31,439 --> 01:53:34,719 Speaker 1: NFL right now, five fourth quarter comebacks in seventeen NFL starts. 2324 01:53:34,880 --> 01:53:36,240 Speaker 1: What do you think on a Twitter poll? We got 2325 01:53:36,240 --> 01:53:39,160 Speaker 1: almost thirteen hundred votes cast so far, and it's fairly close. 2326 01:53:39,240 --> 01:53:41,640 Speaker 1: Fifty seven percent of you say it's more important that 2327 01:53:42,040 --> 01:53:45,559 Speaker 1: Josh Allen be consistent. Forty three percent say it's better 2328 01:53:45,600 --> 01:53:47,680 Speaker 1: that he is clutch. Let's hear from you. Give us 2329 01:53:47,680 --> 01:53:49,880 Speaker 1: a call eight h three five fifty toll free one 2330 01:53:50,000 --> 01:53:53,040 Speaker 1: eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty or sending 2331 01:53:53,080 --> 01:53:54,639 Speaker 1: a tweet. We can read it on the tweet sheet. 2332 01:53:54,680 --> 01:53:56,519 Speaker 1: We're coming back with more of that. Come on back 2333 01:53:56,560 --> 01:53:59,280 Speaker 1: with us. Time now for New York State Lottery Inside 2334 01:53:59,280 --> 01:54:01,719 Speaker 1: the numbers, take a break from the expected play scratch 2335 01:54:01,800 --> 01:54:04,720 Speaker 1: off games from the New York Lottery. With eighty three 2336 01:54:04,800 --> 01:54:07,760 Speaker 1: yards against the Dolphins Bills John Brown now with fifty 2337 01:54:07,840 --> 01:54:10,479 Speaker 1: yards in all six games this year. He's the first 2338 01:54:10,560 --> 01:54:12,920 Speaker 1: Bills player to open a season with a streak like 2339 01:54:13,040 --> 01:54:15,760 Speaker 1: that since lely Evan did it with seven in two 2340 01:54:15,840 --> 01:54:18,000 Speaker 1: thousand and eight. A fifth time of Buffalo Bills the 2341 01:54:18,040 --> 01:54:20,560 Speaker 1: player has said fifty or more receiving yards in the 2342 01:54:20,600 --> 01:54:24,240 Speaker 1: season's first six games. New York State Lottery Inside the Numbers. 2343 01:54:24,280 --> 01:54:26,840 Speaker 1: Take a break from the expected play scratch off games 2344 01:54:26,880 --> 01:54:28,560 Speaker 1: from the New York Lottery. We're back with moring a 2345 01:54:28,600 --> 01:54:31,439 Speaker 1: moment one Bills Live from the Seneca Studio on Buffalo 2346 01:54:31,560 --> 01:54:46,240 Speaker 1: Bills Radio. High School Coach of the Week the award 2347 01:54:46,280 --> 01:54:48,120 Speaker 1: given out each week. We announced it on n show. 2348 01:54:48,160 --> 01:54:50,640 Speaker 1: It's presented by ad Pro the ad Pro Sports high 2349 01:54:50,640 --> 01:54:53,640 Speaker 1: School Coaches of the Week from Section six here in Buffalo, 2350 01:54:53,720 --> 01:54:56,320 Speaker 1: Dean Sentorio of Grand Island led his team to a 2351 01:54:56,400 --> 01:54:59,040 Speaker 1: thirty seven twenty win over Amherst. They clinch a playoff spot. 2352 01:54:59,400 --> 01:55:01,320 Speaker 1: Enter the game needing to win by seventeen to make 2353 01:55:01,360 --> 01:55:03,280 Speaker 1: the playoffs or they'd be eliminated, and look at that 2354 01:55:03,360 --> 01:55:06,839 Speaker 1: they won by seventeen. And in Section five from Rochester, 2355 01:55:06,920 --> 01:55:08,800 Speaker 1: the high school Coach of the Week comes from note 2356 01:55:08,880 --> 01:55:12,800 Speaker 1: pre Dame of Batavia, Joe Zambito, the Fighting Irish were 2357 01:55:12,800 --> 01:55:15,480 Speaker 1: the forty to nothing'd win over Alexander. Both teams came 2358 01:55:15,560 --> 01:55:17,600 Speaker 1: into that game six and oh Batavia Notre Dame now 2359 01:55:17,680 --> 01:55:20,040 Speaker 1: seven and oh they'll play the first round playoff game 2360 01:55:20,080 --> 01:55:22,560 Speaker 1: as the top seat from Class D in section five. 2361 01:55:22,640 --> 01:55:26,600 Speaker 1: Congratulations coaches, Congratulations players the at Pro Sports High School 2362 01:55:26,640 --> 01:55:28,720 Speaker 1: Coach of the Week. We're talking about the bills here 2363 01:55:28,760 --> 01:55:30,560 Speaker 1: and Josh Allen love to hear from you. I phone 2364 01:55:30,600 --> 01:55:33,920 Speaker 1: line's open eighth three five fifty toll free one eight 2365 01:55:34,120 --> 01:55:37,400 Speaker 1: eight eight five fifty two five fifty clutch or consistent? 2366 01:55:37,440 --> 01:55:40,200 Speaker 1: What do you want from Josh? You want both? But 2367 01:55:40,360 --> 01:55:42,120 Speaker 1: if you had to choose right now is one of 2368 01:55:42,160 --> 01:55:45,760 Speaker 1: these phony choices we offer on sports stalk radio right 2369 01:55:46,320 --> 01:55:48,600 Speaker 1: right in the real world, You're like, no, we can 2370 01:55:48,640 --> 01:55:50,760 Speaker 1: do a little both. This is not the real world, folks, 2371 01:55:51,240 --> 01:55:54,000 Speaker 1: This is Steve's world. This is tasker. Will have to choose. 2372 01:55:54,080 --> 01:55:55,880 Speaker 1: You have to choose. What do you think? Give us 2373 01:55:55,920 --> 01:55:58,440 Speaker 1: a call eight three fifty toll free one eight eight 2374 01:55:58,600 --> 01:56:00,960 Speaker 1: eight by fifty two five fifteen. We got tweets in 2375 01:56:01,080 --> 01:56:03,120 Speaker 1: on this from the tweet sheet brought to you by 2376 01:56:03,440 --> 01:56:06,880 Speaker 1: Corrigan Moving Systems, the official movers of the Buffalo Bills. 2377 01:56:07,360 --> 01:56:08,840 Speaker 1: Sip of the kool Aid? Did we read this? I 2378 01:56:08,880 --> 01:56:10,520 Speaker 1: don't think. I don't think we did. Sip of the 2379 01:56:10,600 --> 01:56:13,480 Speaker 1: kool aid. Great poll today, which is why we're doing 2380 01:56:13,560 --> 01:56:16,520 Speaker 1: reading this one and a very tough question. I want both. 2381 01:56:16,920 --> 01:56:18,680 Speaker 1: But if I had to choose, it would be clutch. 2382 01:56:18,760 --> 01:56:21,160 Speaker 1: Given our current team, our defense will always give Josh 2383 01:56:21,200 --> 01:56:23,440 Speaker 1: a chance to be clutch. In fact, I believe had 2384 01:56:23,440 --> 01:56:25,200 Speaker 1: he not gotten knocked out of the New England game, 2385 01:56:25,480 --> 01:56:28,600 Speaker 1: we would be six and old. Hm. It's got a 2386 01:56:28,640 --> 01:56:31,640 Speaker 1: good point, though he dropped the defense. Yeah, the defense 2387 01:56:31,720 --> 01:56:33,560 Speaker 1: keeps them in games with a chance to win it 2388 01:56:33,600 --> 01:56:35,440 Speaker 1: they do in the fourth quarter, and that includes the 2389 01:56:35,480 --> 01:56:37,480 Speaker 1: one loss they had a chance there. I like that, 2390 01:56:37,760 --> 01:56:40,480 Speaker 1: I agree, and I don't know if they would have 2391 01:56:40,480 --> 01:56:42,200 Speaker 1: been beating the Patriots knop, But I tell you what, 2392 01:56:42,280 --> 01:56:43,800 Speaker 1: I would have loved to have the shot at it 2393 01:56:44,320 --> 01:56:46,360 Speaker 1: with him in the game. But by the same token 2394 01:56:46,440 --> 01:56:49,320 Speaker 1: that clutch jeans also what got him knocked out and 2395 01:56:49,440 --> 01:56:51,360 Speaker 1: got him put in a concussion protocol. So you got 2396 01:56:51,440 --> 01:56:55,320 Speaker 1: to take good with the bad. You're do I stop 2397 01:56:55,360 --> 01:56:57,480 Speaker 1: you here? Why? Because the New England pair launched his 2398 01:56:57,680 --> 01:57:00,840 Speaker 1: helmet at his head because Josh was clutch. What we 2399 01:57:00,920 --> 01:57:03,960 Speaker 1: didn't slide? Okay, you're right, you didn't slide. It was 2400 01:57:04,000 --> 01:57:07,080 Speaker 1: an illegal hit. Yeah, he got a penalty on it. Yeah, 2401 01:57:07,280 --> 01:57:09,400 Speaker 1: so what's that? Get yeah, penalty flag and get a 2402 01:57:09,440 --> 01:57:11,480 Speaker 1: couple extra yards and your quarterbacks out of the game. 2403 01:57:11,960 --> 01:57:15,520 Speaker 1: That's the rules, uh, Tiffany. Being able to make big 2404 01:57:15,600 --> 01:57:18,360 Speaker 1: plays and clutch moments is the definition of what great QB. 2405 01:57:18,560 --> 01:57:21,160 Speaker 1: A great QB is. Josh has that ability to steal 2406 01:57:21,200 --> 01:57:24,360 Speaker 1: a game, even if he struggled at times. We've just 2407 01:57:24,480 --> 01:57:26,360 Speaker 1: seen a small sampling of what is to come from 2408 01:57:26,480 --> 01:57:27,960 Speaker 1: him in his career. You know. You think about that 2409 01:57:30,640 --> 01:57:33,400 Speaker 1: and we attribute his struggles to his youth, and it's 2410 01:57:33,440 --> 01:57:36,600 Speaker 1: probably true, but the guy comes through in games that 2411 01:57:36,680 --> 01:57:40,320 Speaker 1: he struggled in. That's kind of Yes, that's kind of 2412 01:57:40,360 --> 01:57:43,480 Speaker 1: something when you say it like that, man, that sounds huge. Yeah, right, 2413 01:57:43,680 --> 01:57:46,520 Speaker 1: he has, he really has. I mean he started the 2414 01:57:46,600 --> 01:57:49,480 Speaker 1: Jets game in terrible shape right early on and came 2415 01:57:49,520 --> 01:57:51,240 Speaker 1: back and they won. They won by a point, but 2416 01:57:51,320 --> 01:57:53,960 Speaker 1: they won the Jets. He's an open Yeah. You think 2417 01:57:54,000 --> 01:57:56,440 Speaker 1: about what that the scope of what that said, and 2418 01:57:56,480 --> 01:58:01,120 Speaker 1: that's a great tweet from Tiffany. He comes through in 2419 01:58:01,240 --> 01:58:03,120 Speaker 1: games where he struggle up to that point and all 2420 01:58:03,120 --> 01:58:05,760 Speaker 1: of a sudden he comes through. That's that's I'll take 2421 01:58:05,880 --> 01:58:08,840 Speaker 1: that sure right like it? Yeah, I do too. That's 2422 01:58:09,000 --> 01:58:10,839 Speaker 1: that's a great way to look at a very positive 2423 01:58:10,880 --> 01:58:13,680 Speaker 1: way to look at it. And it's has and for me, 2424 01:58:13,840 --> 01:58:16,880 Speaker 1: that's huge implications. That's almost like having a grateful heart 2425 01:58:16,960 --> 01:58:19,200 Speaker 1: least to success. I'll let you know when you have 2426 01:58:19,240 --> 01:58:22,000 Speaker 1: another one like that, And don't you know, I'll let 2427 01:58:22,040 --> 01:58:24,960 Speaker 1: you know. Get those pillows going. That guy in Utah's 2428 01:58:25,200 --> 01:58:27,840 Speaker 1: I think he's right. His mother's out there now, darnie. 2429 01:58:27,880 --> 01:58:29,560 Speaker 1: What do you do to pillow point? But the needle point? 2430 01:58:29,920 --> 01:58:33,560 Speaker 1: JD tweets us in Josh Allen Clutch are consistent. JD says, 2431 01:58:33,600 --> 01:58:37,520 Speaker 1: I can't say consistency with clutch capability that Josh is 2432 01:58:37,520 --> 01:58:40,760 Speaker 1: already demonstrated, and I'll only get better on the consistency 2433 01:58:40,880 --> 01:58:43,280 Speaker 1: side of things. He puts us in a great position 2434 01:58:43,320 --> 01:58:47,640 Speaker 1: at quarterback for years to come. We'll see. I think 2435 01:58:47,680 --> 01:58:49,680 Speaker 1: it's trending in that direction, but we'll see. Are you 2436 01:58:49,760 --> 01:58:51,640 Speaker 1: prepared to say that the Bills are in great position 2437 01:58:51,680 --> 01:58:55,960 Speaker 1: for years to come? I think we're well great, maybe 2438 01:58:56,000 --> 01:58:59,320 Speaker 1: not but good. Yeah. Yeah. And read that last tweek 2439 01:58:59,400 --> 01:59:03,280 Speaker 1: at the bottom from Russ Consistent doesn't win super Bowls 2440 01:59:03,360 --> 01:59:05,520 Speaker 1: nearly as much as clutch does. And then you ask, well, 2441 01:59:05,520 --> 01:59:08,880 Speaker 1: what are we in it for? Do you agree with 2442 01:59:08,960 --> 01:59:12,000 Speaker 1: that consistent doesn't win as much as clutch? You want both? 2443 01:59:12,080 --> 01:59:13,840 Speaker 1: I mean, what are we talking about? I know what's true, 2444 01:59:13,920 --> 01:59:17,880 Speaker 1: but I think I delpher will tell you, well, I 2445 01:59:18,280 --> 01:59:20,720 Speaker 1: had a great defense, and I was fairly consistent and 2446 01:59:20,800 --> 01:59:23,280 Speaker 1: we won Super Bowl. I wasn't great. I wasn't clutch. Okay, 2447 01:59:23,320 --> 01:59:25,280 Speaker 1: there's one, all right, yea, I have to I got 2448 01:59:25,440 --> 01:59:29,960 Speaker 1: fifty two others. You know that. You know they want clutch. 2449 01:59:30,360 --> 01:59:32,960 Speaker 1: I know that's right. There's a bunch of clutch clutch 2450 01:59:33,200 --> 01:59:35,960 Speaker 1: players playing quarterback in the NFL on the Super Bowl 2451 01:59:35,960 --> 01:59:38,280 Speaker 1: winning list. So and there's some guys who were and 2452 01:59:38,680 --> 01:59:40,080 Speaker 1: you know this too. And I'm not just saying it 2453 01:59:40,200 --> 01:59:42,280 Speaker 1: to say it because it's my guys, but there's a 2454 01:59:42,280 --> 01:59:44,720 Speaker 1: lot of guys who are great players who got their 2455 01:59:44,760 --> 01:59:47,920 Speaker 1: teams to Super Bowls who were clutch players as well. 2456 01:59:48,480 --> 01:59:50,200 Speaker 1: You know, you run into those guys a lot when 2457 01:59:50,240 --> 01:59:51,600 Speaker 1: you get up to the top of the league and 2458 01:59:51,680 --> 01:59:56,400 Speaker 1: in any sports league. You know, hey, um let's crunching 2459 01:59:56,480 --> 01:59:58,640 Speaker 1: numbers this morning. Bill's numbers mostly and a little bit 2460 01:59:58,640 --> 02:00:02,440 Speaker 1: of Philadelphia. Bill's offense. Last week tenth ranked in the NFL. 2461 02:00:02,520 --> 02:00:04,760 Speaker 1: They ranked them by yards game. I know that they 2462 02:00:04,800 --> 02:00:06,800 Speaker 1: were tenth ranked in the NFL. They're twenty second in 2463 02:00:06,840 --> 02:00:10,240 Speaker 1: points per game. But after last week they're down to seventeenth. 2464 02:00:10,320 --> 02:00:12,640 Speaker 1: They've dropped and yes, they're look at this gets to 2465 02:00:12,720 --> 02:00:15,520 Speaker 1: the Josh question. They're looking for more consistency on the 2466 02:00:15,640 --> 02:00:18,520 Speaker 1: offensive side of the ball, that's clear. Offensive coordinator Brian 2467 02:00:18,640 --> 02:00:21,560 Speaker 1: Dable talked about it yesterday. His team gets yards but 2468 02:00:21,960 --> 02:00:24,440 Speaker 1: not a ton of points and the Gable was asked 2469 02:00:24,520 --> 02:00:27,280 Speaker 1: what concerns says he have over the lack of production. 2470 02:00:27,360 --> 02:00:31,840 Speaker 1: Here was his answer yesterday. Well, you always want to 2471 02:00:31,840 --> 02:00:36,000 Speaker 1: finish with touchdowns. That's the goal of every offense. So 2472 02:00:36,880 --> 02:00:40,440 Speaker 1: you know, we had some objectives that we really focused 2473 02:00:40,480 --> 02:00:44,520 Speaker 1: on during the bye week. One was trotty score points 2474 02:00:45,200 --> 02:00:47,280 Speaker 1: beginning of the first half, and in the beginning of 2475 02:00:47,320 --> 02:00:49,880 Speaker 1: the second half we were ten ten points out of 2476 02:00:49,880 --> 02:00:52,760 Speaker 1: the fourteen. We got put in some third and longs 2477 02:00:54,280 --> 02:00:56,160 Speaker 1: right there in the fringe, a third and ten on 2478 02:00:56,280 --> 02:00:58,320 Speaker 1: the third and eleven, which are always hard to convert, 2479 02:00:58,800 --> 02:01:03,120 Speaker 1: regardless particul when you have less space. They did a 2480 02:01:03,160 --> 02:01:05,040 Speaker 1: good job. Credit the Dolphins did a good job on 2481 02:01:05,120 --> 02:01:06,840 Speaker 1: the one where we had the free runner through the middle, 2482 02:01:06,880 --> 02:01:08,520 Speaker 1: and Josh, I thought, did a nice job of throwing 2483 02:01:08,520 --> 02:01:11,560 Speaker 1: the football the way to keep us in an opportunity 2484 02:01:11,600 --> 02:01:15,280 Speaker 1: to score three points there. You know, third and eleven 2485 02:01:15,320 --> 02:01:17,840 Speaker 1: we threw a little slip screen to Isaiah that they 2486 02:01:17,880 --> 02:01:20,840 Speaker 1: did a nice job of defending. You know, that's the 2487 02:01:20,920 --> 02:01:22,960 Speaker 1: game right there. You gotta you gotta try to skip 2488 02:01:23,040 --> 02:01:26,080 Speaker 1: those third downs, keep it to third and manageable third 2489 02:01:26,120 --> 02:01:28,000 Speaker 1: down to long regardless of where you're on the field 2490 02:01:28,120 --> 02:01:30,640 Speaker 1: is tough. Um, So it's something we'll just keep working on. 2491 02:01:31,320 --> 02:01:35,440 Speaker 1: He's right, I don't think all the problems they've had, well, 2492 02:01:35,560 --> 02:01:37,640 Speaker 1: I'm put it this way. I think most of the 2493 02:01:37,680 --> 02:01:41,360 Speaker 1: problems they've had have been self inflicted. And you can 2494 02:01:41,400 --> 02:01:43,320 Speaker 1: put that on the fact they got nine new starters. 2495 02:01:43,360 --> 02:01:44,440 Speaker 1: You can put that on the fact you got a 2496 02:01:44,480 --> 02:01:46,400 Speaker 1: young quarterback, and you got to put that on the 2497 02:01:46,440 --> 02:01:48,240 Speaker 1: fact you got a rookie running back, a rookie tight 2498 02:01:48,360 --> 02:01:51,240 Speaker 1: end and commit many penalties, commit too many penalties. I mean, 2499 02:01:51,280 --> 02:01:53,840 Speaker 1: you got to turn it over holding. It's they're all 2500 02:01:53,840 --> 02:01:56,880 Speaker 1: self inflicted. I think he's right. You get into third 2501 02:01:56,920 --> 02:01:59,640 Speaker 1: and longs. This team, especially against the Dolphins this last week, 2502 02:01:59,680 --> 02:02:01,240 Speaker 1: they got in a third and long couple of times 2503 02:02:01,320 --> 02:02:04,440 Speaker 1: because they had some innocuous holding penalty. You know that 2504 02:02:04,840 --> 02:02:08,160 Speaker 1: that that and I all agree, a lot of holding. 2505 02:02:08,200 --> 02:02:09,600 Speaker 1: I haven't looked at all of them, but the ones 2506 02:02:09,600 --> 02:02:12,320 Speaker 1: I saw, Yeah, Okay, they were holding. You can't do that. 2507 02:02:13,320 --> 02:02:15,240 Speaker 1: You can't do that. And that's so I think that 2508 02:02:16,240 --> 02:02:21,160 Speaker 1: when you or in that spot, and like Brian Dabole says, 2509 02:02:21,280 --> 02:02:23,080 Speaker 1: you focus on that in the office, in the in 2510 02:02:23,160 --> 02:02:25,760 Speaker 1: the bye week, you spend some time saying, listen, you know, 2511 02:02:25,840 --> 02:02:28,320 Speaker 1: clean it up. And while they have cleaned up, you 2512 02:02:28,360 --> 02:02:30,960 Speaker 1: know the turnovers, they didn't. They didn't throw a pick 2513 02:02:32,120 --> 02:02:35,080 Speaker 1: this last week. They throw only one the week before 2514 02:02:35,160 --> 02:02:37,640 Speaker 1: that game before that. I mean that that's a good step. 2515 02:02:37,920 --> 02:02:41,560 Speaker 1: You gotta keep that going. But you can't take penalties, 2516 02:02:41,880 --> 02:02:45,880 Speaker 1: particularly pre snap penalties. I think, right, yeah, that's just 2517 02:02:45,960 --> 02:02:47,880 Speaker 1: too many. You need to get that down to like 2518 02:02:48,120 --> 02:02:50,160 Speaker 1: and I'm saying nine's out of control because we've seen 2519 02:02:50,320 --> 02:02:52,440 Speaker 1: these other you know, we've seen this team put fifteen 2520 02:02:52,640 --> 02:02:56,920 Speaker 1: penalties up, but I'm talking more like five or six 2521 02:02:57,080 --> 02:03:00,240 Speaker 1: penalties in a game, one a quarter and none of 2522 02:03:00,280 --> 02:03:03,560 Speaker 1: those catastrophic things that bring back a twenty five yard play. 2523 02:03:03,760 --> 02:03:07,320 Speaker 1: Yep um. This question has been asked the last couple 2524 02:03:07,360 --> 02:03:08,680 Speaker 1: of weeks, and they're the Bills. Do you look at 2525 02:03:08,680 --> 02:03:11,480 Speaker 1: the AFC standings right behind the Patriots right there? Five 2526 02:03:11,560 --> 02:03:15,040 Speaker 1: and one record, a game behind the Patriots. Now Patriots 2527 02:03:15,040 --> 02:03:19,360 Speaker 1: are seven and old, right, that's right? So but are 2528 02:03:19,400 --> 02:03:21,120 Speaker 1: the Bills that good? Are they the second best team 2529 02:03:21,160 --> 02:03:23,280 Speaker 1: in the AFC? People wonder then, and Davel talked about 2530 02:03:23,280 --> 02:03:26,000 Speaker 1: it yesterday, the entire team. Are they for real? What 2531 02:03:26,120 --> 02:03:27,840 Speaker 1: do you see? Are the Buffalo Bills for real? With 2532 02:03:27,920 --> 02:03:30,120 Speaker 1: their five and one record? Here's what Brian Dable said. 2533 02:03:32,280 --> 02:03:37,560 Speaker 1: It's October, We've played six games. We have a lot 2534 02:03:37,720 --> 02:03:40,520 Speaker 1: left and a lot of improvement to do. And I 2535 02:03:40,640 --> 02:03:43,840 Speaker 1: think the minute you start looking too far ahead and 2536 02:03:44,760 --> 02:03:48,440 Speaker 1: focusing on things that are out of your control, that's 2537 02:03:48,480 --> 02:03:51,480 Speaker 1: not good for anybody. So our job is to come 2538 02:03:51,560 --> 02:03:55,160 Speaker 1: in to watch a tape win or lose, to improve 2539 02:03:56,200 --> 02:03:58,040 Speaker 1: in every area that we can improve on, and to 2540 02:03:58,160 --> 02:04:01,520 Speaker 1: get ready to play the next week's opponent, which in 2541 02:04:01,640 --> 02:04:04,400 Speaker 1: this case is early in the preparation process. But a 2542 02:04:04,600 --> 02:04:09,520 Speaker 1: very talented defensive line, good defensive coordinator. You know, got 2543 02:04:09,560 --> 02:04:11,920 Speaker 1: a lot of work to do on these guys. But 2544 02:04:12,040 --> 02:04:13,839 Speaker 1: you have to stay in a moment in this business. 2545 02:04:15,120 --> 02:04:17,800 Speaker 1: There's a lesson for all of us, Steve Tansker, fans 2546 02:04:17,880 --> 02:04:21,560 Speaker 1: listening to the show, viewers, radio listeners, for you and I. 2547 02:04:21,880 --> 02:04:24,240 Speaker 1: They're five and one. There's a long, long, long way 2548 02:04:24,280 --> 02:04:26,760 Speaker 1: to go here, right, Yeah, they're yeah, they're not sixteen 2549 02:04:26,800 --> 02:04:30,440 Speaker 1: in one. They're way, They're not fifteen is absolutely right 2550 02:04:30,480 --> 02:04:33,240 Speaker 1: about that. They're five and one. And we've got two 2551 02:04:33,320 --> 02:04:35,839 Speaker 1: more stretches of the season, just like the one we finished. 2552 02:04:35,840 --> 02:04:37,440 Speaker 1: And if you can finish up those like you did 2553 02:04:37,520 --> 02:04:39,360 Speaker 1: this one, yeah, you got to feel pretty good about it. 2554 02:04:39,440 --> 02:04:43,240 Speaker 1: But you know, we've been here before and it hasn't 2555 02:04:43,240 --> 02:04:45,840 Speaker 1: gone well. And we've been here before and it's gone 2556 02:04:45,920 --> 02:04:49,840 Speaker 1: really well. So nothing's answered. Let's take a few phone 2557 02:04:49,880 --> 02:04:52,360 Speaker 1: calls here talking about Josh Allen clutch consistent. What are 2558 02:04:52,360 --> 02:04:54,840 Speaker 1: you looking for? Frank and Wayne has been on the line. Hello, Frank, 2559 02:04:54,840 --> 02:04:57,440 Speaker 1: go ahead. Hey. I think Bill Farsel said that your 2560 02:04:57,480 --> 02:04:59,760 Speaker 1: record is a pretty good indicator how good you are. 2561 02:05:00,360 --> 02:05:02,160 Speaker 1: I think he said, you are what your record says 2562 02:05:02,160 --> 02:05:06,000 Speaker 1: you are exactly. Yeah, um it starts Allen. A statistic 2563 02:05:06,080 --> 02:05:08,640 Speaker 1: for you when when Josh Allen starts and he has 2564 02:05:08,720 --> 02:05:11,680 Speaker 1: no one turn over, the builds are nine and oh yeah. 2565 02:05:12,200 --> 02:05:15,720 Speaker 1: So I think the deesel for him is um consistency 2566 02:05:15,880 --> 02:05:18,919 Speaker 1: leads to not having to be clutched, which is important. 2567 02:05:19,480 --> 02:05:21,200 Speaker 1: I want to ask Steve real quick for question and 2568 02:05:22,120 --> 02:05:26,960 Speaker 1: receiving long passes, because I think Josh shows such a 2569 02:05:27,960 --> 02:05:30,680 Speaker 1: line drive ball. It doesn't get the receiver much time 2570 02:05:30,720 --> 02:05:33,600 Speaker 1: to run under it. And when I see somebody throws it, 2571 02:05:33,720 --> 02:05:36,280 Speaker 1: Kelly's the thrower, the guy in Green Bay, whatever. They 2572 02:05:36,400 --> 02:05:38,160 Speaker 1: put a lot of air under that ball. Let the 2573 02:05:38,400 --> 02:05:42,160 Speaker 1: receiver adjust to it an eflizing in that Steve, Yeah, 2574 02:05:42,200 --> 02:05:45,000 Speaker 1: there is absolutely We've all seen it. And that that 2575 02:05:45,160 --> 02:05:48,040 Speaker 1: throw Josh made down the middle to Andre Roberts last 2576 02:05:48,120 --> 02:05:50,480 Speaker 1: week didn't have any air under it and he overthrew 2577 02:05:50,520 --> 02:05:53,280 Speaker 1: it by twelve yards and it wasn't even close. And 2578 02:05:53,360 --> 02:05:55,600 Speaker 1: if you but here's the thing, he starts to balance it. 2579 02:05:56,120 --> 02:05:59,640 Speaker 1: Nobody was gonna catch that ball that Josh threw. But 2580 02:05:59,800 --> 02:06:02,080 Speaker 1: the more air you put under it, the more guys 2581 02:06:02,080 --> 02:06:03,600 Speaker 1: are going to be able to catch it. It's and 2582 02:06:03,680 --> 02:06:06,200 Speaker 1: it's a it's a fine line. You throw that with 2583 02:06:06,280 --> 02:06:08,600 Speaker 1: a little more air under it, and Andre Roberts is 2584 02:06:08,640 --> 02:06:10,000 Speaker 1: the guy that can catch it. If you throw it 2585 02:06:10,040 --> 02:06:12,040 Speaker 1: with a little more air under it than that, then 2586 02:06:12,160 --> 02:06:14,320 Speaker 1: Andre Roberts and the two guys that are chasing him 2587 02:06:14,360 --> 02:06:15,920 Speaker 1: can catch it. All three of them can catch it. 2588 02:06:16,000 --> 02:06:18,800 Speaker 1: So if the more air you put under it, the 2589 02:06:18,920 --> 02:06:21,400 Speaker 1: more ability the receiver. The guy running down there has 2590 02:06:21,440 --> 02:06:24,680 Speaker 1: to adjust to it because it's not going to go 2591 02:06:24,760 --> 02:06:28,160 Speaker 1: as far down the field. That is the fine line 2592 02:06:28,200 --> 02:06:31,720 Speaker 1: you work with. Do you throw it the perfect deep 2593 02:06:31,800 --> 02:06:35,000 Speaker 1: ball where your guy can run catch it, be behind 2594 02:06:35,040 --> 02:06:37,200 Speaker 1: the defense, the defense can't catch him, but he can 2595 02:06:37,280 --> 02:06:41,080 Speaker 1: catch the ball. That's where you want it. Anything less 2596 02:06:41,160 --> 02:06:43,520 Speaker 1: than that and they knock it down or to intercept it. 2597 02:06:43,560 --> 02:06:46,480 Speaker 1: Anything more than that and it's incomplete. That's the window 2598 02:06:46,520 --> 02:06:48,640 Speaker 1: you're working with. And the amount of arc you have 2599 02:06:48,840 --> 02:06:51,000 Speaker 1: under the ball is what it tells you that. So yes, 2600 02:06:51,480 --> 02:06:53,880 Speaker 1: that Josh, there are time not all the time, but 2601 02:06:54,320 --> 02:06:56,200 Speaker 1: a number of times we've seen in this early part 2602 02:06:56,240 --> 02:06:58,760 Speaker 1: of the season a little more air would have helped. 2603 02:06:59,440 --> 02:07:00,920 Speaker 1: And then there every once in a while it's like 2604 02:07:01,040 --> 02:07:02,800 Speaker 1: just a little bit more accurate on a flat ball 2605 02:07:02,840 --> 02:07:04,560 Speaker 1: would have been good too. Thanks for your call. Let's 2606 02:07:04,560 --> 02:07:07,840 Speaker 1: go to Kramer and Amherst. Hello, you're on the air. Hello. 2607 02:07:08,320 --> 02:07:12,600 Speaker 1: Can you hear me? Yes? Hello, Steve? How are you? 2608 02:07:12,680 --> 02:07:14,560 Speaker 1: I remember I had a conversation with you at this 2609 02:07:14,680 --> 02:07:17,280 Speaker 1: sports place and I'm not going to name any needs 2610 02:07:17,320 --> 02:07:20,520 Speaker 1: but the sports place and Chika Waga, but I believe 2611 02:07:20,600 --> 02:07:23,160 Speaker 1: they're giving out club med vacations. I have something like that. 2612 02:07:23,280 --> 02:07:26,080 Speaker 1: I don't remember where's let us know where that is 2613 02:07:26,440 --> 02:07:29,680 Speaker 1: given out club med vacations, right. I don't know if 2614 02:07:29,720 --> 02:07:31,760 Speaker 1: I should say it was. It's a place that starts 2615 02:07:31,760 --> 02:07:33,919 Speaker 1: with the sea, and they're not one of your sponsors, 2616 02:07:33,960 --> 02:07:37,080 Speaker 1: so I don't want to rock the both here. Okay, 2617 02:07:37,360 --> 02:07:42,040 Speaker 1: what else yet? Anyway? M Yeah, I remember. I just 2618 02:07:42,160 --> 02:07:45,360 Speaker 1: want to talk about Josh Allen. I's been on my 2619 02:07:45,480 --> 02:07:50,120 Speaker 1: mind a lot. I have conversations about him often, and 2620 02:07:50,360 --> 02:07:53,080 Speaker 1: I just think that the way I see Josh Allen 2621 02:07:53,200 --> 02:07:55,560 Speaker 1: no is Josh Allen is like, you know, the little 2622 02:07:55,640 --> 02:07:58,160 Speaker 1: five year old ride in the bike with the training wheels, 2623 02:07:58,200 --> 02:08:01,440 Speaker 1: and the training wheels are the are the Bill's defense 2624 02:08:01,520 --> 02:08:05,120 Speaker 1: and it's and it's not really that. And I feel 2625 02:08:05,200 --> 02:08:08,120 Speaker 1: that he's getting still. I mean, though he's see he's 2626 02:08:08,160 --> 02:08:11,840 Speaker 1: improved after the last since last year. I just feel that, uh, 2627 02:08:12,480 --> 02:08:15,040 Speaker 1: he's getting way too much credit for these comebacks. And 2628 02:08:15,680 --> 02:08:18,440 Speaker 1: I think that all these comebacks are calibrating around the 2629 02:08:18,920 --> 02:08:21,520 Speaker 1: elite Bill's defense, and I just think it's a shame 2630 02:08:21,640 --> 02:08:25,400 Speaker 1: that they don't people forget about the defense. No, we 2631 02:08:25,400 --> 02:08:27,760 Speaker 1: don't forget. And and well, obviously, what a great problem 2632 02:08:27,800 --> 02:08:30,520 Speaker 1: to have figuring out who gets credit for victories. I mean, 2633 02:08:30,720 --> 02:08:33,560 Speaker 1: that's the biggest problem we're identifying here, Like you shouldn't 2634 02:08:33,560 --> 02:08:35,320 Speaker 1: get credit, they get credit. How long have we been 2635 02:08:35,360 --> 02:08:38,480 Speaker 1: suffering waiting to get to a day like this right right? 2636 02:08:39,000 --> 02:08:41,080 Speaker 1: Like you know, don't get the quarterback too much credit 2637 02:08:41,120 --> 02:08:44,280 Speaker 1: because we're five and one, because the defense is really 2638 02:08:44,320 --> 02:08:46,720 Speaker 1: really good. Wow, that's I mean, pretty good question. But 2639 02:08:46,800 --> 02:08:49,240 Speaker 1: I get I get you, Kramer, But go ahead, But 2640 02:08:49,320 --> 02:08:51,200 Speaker 1: if you look in the past, you know, you look 2641 02:08:51,240 --> 02:08:55,000 Speaker 1: at these quarterbacks that were that that were there were 2642 02:08:55,360 --> 02:08:57,880 Speaker 1: then they got to the Super Bowl and won Super Bowl, 2643 02:08:58,520 --> 02:09:00,640 Speaker 1: and like, for instance, I you know, like you have 2644 02:09:00,720 --> 02:09:03,360 Speaker 1: Trent Dilf, you have like way back when Deck in 2645 02:09:03,440 --> 02:09:06,600 Speaker 1: the early eighties, you have like Jim Plunkett, and these 2646 02:09:06,680 --> 02:09:08,760 Speaker 1: guys were average at best. If you look at m 2647 02:09:08,800 --> 02:09:10,920 Speaker 1: VP that year when they when they when the Raiders, 2648 02:09:11,320 --> 02:09:13,040 Speaker 1: I think when the Leaders won the Super Bowl in 2649 02:09:13,040 --> 02:09:15,600 Speaker 1: the eighties, was Jim Plunk at the MVP. No, it 2650 02:09:15,640 --> 02:09:18,640 Speaker 1: was Marcus Allen. And you know, I just think, yeah, 2651 02:09:18,920 --> 02:09:22,640 Speaker 1: they're a great quarter they're decent quarterback, average quarterbacks. But 2652 02:09:23,720 --> 02:09:26,720 Speaker 1: you know, it's like if I this deal, if at 2653 02:09:26,800 --> 02:09:28,760 Speaker 1: this point in time and say, if the Bills get 2654 02:09:28,800 --> 02:09:30,880 Speaker 1: to the super Bowl this year, which I doubt it's 2655 02:09:30,880 --> 02:09:33,440 Speaker 1: gonna happen. Uh, it's not going to be because of 2656 02:09:33,920 --> 02:09:37,520 Speaker 1: the herods of Josh Ellen at least at this point. 2657 02:09:37,640 --> 02:09:40,240 Speaker 1: You know. So that's okay, all right, thank you, get 2658 02:09:40,280 --> 02:09:42,440 Speaker 1: you and you're you're right. Listen, if if you get 2659 02:09:42,440 --> 02:09:44,160 Speaker 1: to the super Bowl, it's a lot of guys. It's 2660 02:09:44,200 --> 02:09:46,640 Speaker 1: not just a quarterback. I mean even Aaron Rodgers and 2661 02:09:46,680 --> 02:09:49,280 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl that he won, Uh, Drew Brees and 2662 02:09:49,320 --> 02:09:52,920 Speaker 1: the super Bowl that he won, uh and Tom Brady, um, 2663 02:09:53,480 --> 02:09:55,640 Speaker 1: all these guys who have gone to and won super Bowls. 2664 02:09:55,680 --> 02:10:00,600 Speaker 1: At Ben Roethlisberger. I mean, it's a t effort and 2665 02:10:00,680 --> 02:10:02,920 Speaker 1: that's why it's so hard to build. You need a 2666 02:10:03,080 --> 02:10:06,000 Speaker 1: lot of guys doing the right thing for a long time. 2667 02:10:07,320 --> 02:10:09,680 Speaker 1: To get it right, to get to a super Bowl, 2668 02:10:09,760 --> 02:10:11,680 Speaker 1: to get into a super Bowl, to get into the playoffs, 2669 02:10:11,960 --> 02:10:14,600 Speaker 1: to win games, a lot of things have to be 2670 02:10:14,720 --> 02:10:18,880 Speaker 1: in place. And so yeah, I'm not too caught up. 2671 02:10:18,920 --> 02:10:22,040 Speaker 1: And who's getting the credit for five and one right now? Either? Yeah? 2672 02:10:22,040 --> 02:10:23,520 Speaker 1: All right to break here, we're back with more. It 2673 02:10:23,640 --> 02:10:25,840 Speaker 1: is One Bill's Live, presented by Kalata Health Live from 2674 02:10:25,840 --> 02:10:42,840 Speaker 1: the Seneca Studio in Orchard Park. This is Buffalo Bills Radio. Okay, 2675 02:10:42,880 --> 02:10:44,680 Speaker 1: so what have we learn from today's show. It has 2676 02:10:44,680 --> 02:10:48,200 Speaker 1: brought to you by Skyworks, the official construction equipment rental 2677 02:10:48,280 --> 02:10:50,240 Speaker 1: company of the Buffalo Bills. We had a good show 2678 02:10:50,280 --> 02:10:52,560 Speaker 1: today and it flew by once again. That's a good sign. 2679 02:10:52,800 --> 02:10:55,520 Speaker 1: Kyle Brandt joined us from Good Morning Football on the 2680 02:10:55,600 --> 02:10:58,040 Speaker 1: NFL Network and we asked him what can be done 2681 02:10:58,440 --> 02:11:01,920 Speaker 1: to raise the profile a Bill outstanding Cornerbacktor Davias White. 2682 02:11:01,960 --> 02:11:05,600 Speaker 1: Here's what Kyle brand said about that. I feel like 2683 02:11:05,680 --> 02:11:08,240 Speaker 1: if Trey White was a Dallas cowboy, he'd be in 2684 02:11:08,320 --> 02:11:12,200 Speaker 1: chunky super commercials. He's got an incredible personality, he has 2685 02:11:12,280 --> 02:11:15,920 Speaker 1: a cool name, He's an amazing player. I remember The 2686 02:11:16,000 --> 02:11:18,480 Speaker 1: first time he really hit my radar was a couple 2687 02:11:18,480 --> 02:11:21,080 Speaker 1: of years ago when he was all over Kronkowski so 2688 02:11:21,200 --> 02:11:23,960 Speaker 1: much to cronkyu a microchip and attacked him from an item. 2689 02:11:24,000 --> 02:11:25,720 Speaker 1: That's a really ugly seeing. I said, who is this 2690 02:11:25,840 --> 02:11:27,840 Speaker 1: Trey White? He's come on the show with us a 2691 02:11:27,920 --> 02:11:30,320 Speaker 1: few times before, he goes on the network and goes 2692 02:11:30,360 --> 02:11:33,000 Speaker 1: back and forth with Dion. He hasn't all going on, 2693 02:11:33,440 --> 02:11:35,280 Speaker 1: So you're right. I want to see him in some 2694 02:11:35,440 --> 02:11:38,160 Speaker 1: super commercials or maybe that yogurt or something. But you 2695 02:11:38,240 --> 02:11:40,640 Speaker 1: guys know this, the only way that's happening for Trey 2696 02:11:40,680 --> 02:11:42,920 Speaker 1: White is if he's playing in January. He has a 2697 02:11:42,960 --> 02:11:45,240 Speaker 1: big pick in January. You don't get it with picks 2698 02:11:45,280 --> 02:11:47,920 Speaker 1: against Dolphins for the Buffalo Bills in October. So I 2699 02:11:48,040 --> 02:11:50,360 Speaker 1: think it is a great task and I will promise 2700 02:11:50,440 --> 02:11:52,920 Speaker 1: you this some week someday this weekend, Good Morning Football, 2701 02:11:53,120 --> 02:11:54,800 Speaker 1: I'm going to do it. Homage to Trey White. This 2702 02:11:54,960 --> 02:11:58,360 Speaker 1: is a great peg. He deserves more. Kyle Brant, all right, 2703 02:11:58,440 --> 02:12:02,000 Speaker 1: we like that. Also today Andrew Brandt, his nephew, Andrew Brant, 2704 02:12:02,040 --> 02:12:03,960 Speaker 1: from the Business of the NFL, talk to us about 2705 02:12:03,960 --> 02:12:05,920 Speaker 1: the Dolphins. He said, don't worry about the tank. He 2706 02:12:06,000 --> 02:12:10,240 Speaker 1: deserves credit for what they're doing. Here's Andrew Brant. You know, 2707 02:12:10,360 --> 02:12:14,400 Speaker 1: there's no reward in sports now for mediocrity. It's really 2708 02:12:14,480 --> 02:12:17,960 Speaker 1: there's no reward. So what do you do well? You 2709 02:12:18,080 --> 02:12:20,080 Speaker 1: can try to play on the edges of being a 2710 02:12:20,200 --> 02:12:23,200 Speaker 1: six and ten team, of seven and nine team, maybe 2711 02:12:23,240 --> 02:12:25,600 Speaker 1: an eight and eight teams, or you can do what 2712 02:12:25,720 --> 02:12:29,520 Speaker 1: the Dolphins appear to be doing, which is bringing it 2713 02:12:29,640 --> 02:12:31,800 Speaker 1: down to the studs and building it back up. And 2714 02:12:31,920 --> 02:12:35,760 Speaker 1: it's easier to do, I understand in basketball and maybe 2715 02:12:35,760 --> 02:12:39,680 Speaker 1: even baseball, as the Houston Astros have done. But they're 2716 02:12:39,720 --> 02:12:42,720 Speaker 1: giving it a go in Miami, and as you said, 2717 02:12:42,800 --> 02:12:45,400 Speaker 1: they're staying close and in a lot of these games 2718 02:12:45,520 --> 02:12:49,440 Speaker 1: they're not total blowout, so you know they're being competitive. 2719 02:12:49,600 --> 02:12:52,600 Speaker 1: But clearly their goal is not about this year, maybe 2720 02:12:52,680 --> 02:12:55,400 Speaker 1: not next year. It's trying to have that sustain success 2721 02:12:55,440 --> 02:12:58,240 Speaker 1: in the future. There's a lot that Andrew Brant said 2722 02:12:58,280 --> 02:13:00,200 Speaker 1: there they don't agree with. They're not keeping attack so 2723 02:13:00,280 --> 02:13:02,840 Speaker 1: Bill's beat him by by ten and they're not keeping 2724 02:13:02,880 --> 02:13:06,760 Speaker 1: it that close. All right, Um, Twitter, you're just looking 2725 02:13:06,800 --> 02:13:09,440 Speaker 1: at me. It's okay to disagree with our guess truth. Yeah, 2726 02:13:09,680 --> 02:13:11,640 Speaker 1: it's okay, I disagree with it. I don't like the 2727 02:13:11,720 --> 02:13:13,640 Speaker 1: tank an you do too. There because in this league 2728 02:13:13,640 --> 02:13:18,160 Speaker 1: there is there is some reward for mediocrity. These teams 2729 02:13:18,160 --> 02:13:20,480 Speaker 1: are still making a ton of money and then someonem 2730 02:13:20,520 --> 02:13:23,800 Speaker 1: aren't even trying. That's right, Twitter pull today, more important 2731 02:13:23,800 --> 02:13:26,880 Speaker 1: for Josh Shanna to be clutch or consistent. We got 2732 02:13:26,920 --> 02:13:29,480 Speaker 1: almost fourteen hundred votes in today. That's a lot. That's good, 2733 02:13:29,680 --> 02:13:32,160 Speaker 1: and fifty percent of our respondents say more important that 2734 02:13:32,240 --> 02:13:35,920 Speaker 1: Josh Shannen be consistent. Forty three percent said clutch pretty close. 2735 02:13:36,200 --> 02:13:38,440 Speaker 1: Something we'll discuss I think moving forward here as the 2736 02:13:38,480 --> 02:13:40,920 Speaker 1: bills get set. There back tomorrow to begin the practice week, 2737 02:13:41,120 --> 02:13:44,480 Speaker 1: we'll have UM. We'll have UM Wednesday. Who do we got? 2738 02:13:44,680 --> 02:13:46,640 Speaker 1: Oh Field? The Eights will join us from ESPN tomorrow 2739 02:13:46,680 --> 02:13:49,200 Speaker 1: and plus will here from Chris Brown on the practice field. 2740 02:13:49,320 --> 02:13:52,520 Speaker 1: Our production assistants from George Blast, Jeff Colton and Thomas 2741 02:13:52,560 --> 02:13:56,120 Speaker 1: honald Or, Kelly Rude, j j Arito, Kevin Cargis, James Roebel, 2742 02:13:56,320 --> 02:13:58,760 Speaker 1: our producer Jay Harris. We're back tomorrow at twelve noon. 2743 02:13:58,760 --> 02:14:01,400 Speaker 1: I hope you join us. 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