1 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: Motherfucking many souls, motherfuckings. Yep, there it is. There it is. 2 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:22,240 Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to another phenomenal episode of Many 3 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 1: episode of My Mama Told Me, the podcast where we 4 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: died deep, deep into the pockets of black conspiracy theories. 5 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:32,959 Speaker 1: I didn't I was gonna say the community, but it's 6 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: not the community. It's conspiracy theories, and we finally work 7 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 1: to prove the issues, the questions, the concerns, the conspiracies 8 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: that you, the people have at home. You've been sending 9 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:50,520 Speaker 1: me wonderful, terrifying, haunting suggestions for us to talk about, 10 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: and this week's episode there's no exception. I can't wait 11 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: to dig into it. I had a pretty good day today. 12 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: I've been working really hard on a television show that's 13 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: coming out this Friday. This Friday, it's called Pause with 14 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: Sam j. It's very exciting. But I got a motherfucking 15 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 1: nap today, so fuck that show. Papa got thirty minutes 16 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: extra sleep, and boy, oh boy, did I need it. 17 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: I've been just grinding myself real thin uh, staying up 18 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: till two in the morning watching edits and then watching 19 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: cartoons because somehow my brain doesn't know how to shut 20 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: down after it's supposed to anybody else struggle with that. 21 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 1: I truly cannot bring myself to go to bed at 22 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: a reasonable hour when I'm alone. It's probably something to 23 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: do with childhood trauma. But I'm not gonna get into that. 24 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: I don't have time because we have such an exciting 25 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: episode to get into a person a gentleman. I assume 26 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: it's a gentleman. He seems like a gentleman. A person 27 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: named Desmond sent me a great theory, a great my 28 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: mama told me, which I'm gonna play for you now, 29 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: and it sets the record, I think, for the shortest 30 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: suggest and we've ever received for the show. Here we go. 31 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: Growing up, I always heard that two ugly people make 32 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:10,519 Speaker 1: a pretty baby. I don't know if that's true. That's 33 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 1: what I heard, Jesus Christ, Desmond, you could have put 34 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 1: a little more seasoning on that bad boy. You didn't 35 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: just have to hit me with two sentences. You're a 36 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 1: fucking monster, Desmond? Who told you that? What what a 37 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 1: horrible person was like? You see them too, uglies over there. 38 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 1: They're gonna make something gorgeous someday. It is something that 39 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: I've heard over the years I won't pretend that that's uh, 40 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:37,519 Speaker 1: maybe it is. I don't know if it's a black thing. 41 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: It might just be a thing in general. I have 42 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: no clue, Olivia, or give me a nod if that's 43 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: something you've heard in the past. Olivia is nodding. She's 44 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: saying that that is something and Olivia hate hate to 45 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 1: ruin this for you, folks. Olivia's Mexican, So it isn't. 46 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 1: It isn't something that necessarily existing solely the black community. 47 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 1: That's very exciting. Now, what I did was I started 48 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 1: to do some research. I dug into this, Desmond. I 49 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: wanted to make sure that I could answer all of 50 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 1: this for you. So, first of all, it's hard to 51 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 1: find proof of this, largely in the fact that that 52 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: attractiveness as we define it is often treated as something 53 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 1: super subjective. Right, Almost every single parent in the world 54 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 1: refers to their child as beautiful. They every parent thinks 55 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: that their kid is is gorgeous. Although I will say 56 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: that I did come across a Reddit thread from about 57 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: five years ago called parents of Unattractive Children? When did 58 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: you realize your child was ugly? How did you feel 59 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: about it? Which is maybe one of the meaner Reddit 60 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: threads that I've ever come across. It truly is a 61 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: bunch of parents being like, Yeah, my daughter came out 62 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: the womb, and I was like, put her back in. 63 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: This doesn't work. She looks not good, she looks horrible. 64 00:03:58,040 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: And then a lot of them go like, well, now, 65 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: all he's handsome. But you know they don't mean it. 66 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: You know, the first reaction was their best reaction, and 67 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: they were like, this kid's fucked up and I don't 68 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: know what to do about it. Then we can't do it. 69 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: We can't kill it. So I guess we got to 70 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: raise it and and teach it to read and stuff. Anyway, 71 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: there are some parents that admit that their kids are ugly, 72 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: but for the most part, people kind of think that 73 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: the loved ones they have in their life are attractive people. However, 74 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: I did come across the study at two thousand nineteen 75 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:33,359 Speaker 1: study from the University of Wisconsin Madison. They conducted this 76 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 1: study trying to identify parts of the genome associated with 77 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:40,919 Speaker 1: facial beauty, meaning they really were trying to track down 78 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: the exact gene that makes people beautiful. Facial beauty is 79 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: considered to be hereditary, but the specific gene that causes 80 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: it has never actually been identified, and so with the study, 81 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,479 Speaker 1: they basically took these volunteers. I think they have like 82 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: close to five thousand volunteers, all in Europe, so you 83 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: already know the white devil is at work, but all 84 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 1: in Europe. Volunteers were asked to score the samples of 85 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 1: yearbook photos. They collected these yearbook photos based on attractiveness 86 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: and then given those scores. Each person's photograph was analyzed 87 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: with regards to their genetic information. So the study was 88 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: basically attempting to connect attractiveness with genetic information. To make 89 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 1: it simple for you, It's basically like they're playing a 90 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 1: peer reviewed version of hot or not, you know what 91 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 1: I mean? And that that already bumps me. If I'm 92 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,720 Speaker 1: being honest, That immediately seems like a problem in my mind, 93 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 1: because I'm not letting some collection of dorks decide what 94 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:40,559 Speaker 1: sexy is, you know what I mean. I'm not gonna 95 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: let the kids who eat lunch with the teacher dictate 96 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 1: what makes me horny. That's what happened with Mark Zuckerberg. 97 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 1: We let that weep make a website where he rated women, 98 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: and now he's selling our information so that he can 99 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:56,559 Speaker 1: build a Mars colony. Also, not for nothing, his wife 100 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: as ugly as fuck. She ain't shipped to look at you, 101 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 1: know what I mean. And you're a goddamn billionaire. You 102 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: got this atrocious woman on your side. You should be 103 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 1: ashamed of yourself, Mark Zuckerberg. It's one thing for you 104 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: to be manipulating my family and friends so that you 105 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: can control elections, but it's another thing for you to 106 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 1: marry a ghoul. Shame on you, Mark Zuckerberg. The study 107 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: found several genes that might be associated with attractiveness. They 108 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 1: found some genes, but even more interesting, those genes seem 109 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:37,359 Speaker 1: to differ between men and women. Huh. That's that's a 110 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: pretty interesting thing. What makes a man attractive is very 111 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: different than what makes a woman attractive. Idris Elba is 112 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,559 Speaker 1: objectively a handsome man. But if I see a bitch 113 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 1: that looks like Idris Elba, I'm gonna make her sleep 114 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 1: behind the baby gate. She can't come in my house. 115 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 1: We can't sleep in the same room. You gotta we 116 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 1: need a barrier between the two of us. You look 117 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 1: like you look Luther. That's an unacceptable face, in my 118 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: opinion for a woman. That said, ultimately, what the study 119 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: found is that the attractive genes that were actually different 120 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: for men and women. This is where it gets interesting. 121 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: We're connected to very different things, and then you would 122 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: expect so for women. For example, the gene that ended 123 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:24,239 Speaker 1: up being connected to attractive women was related to body mass, 124 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: whereas the genes connected to men were connected to cholesterol. 125 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: And now I'm not gonna go into some long thing 126 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: about the way that patriarchy has formed our perceptions of attractiveness. 127 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: I can't afford to. I am a a master of 128 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: the patriarchy, and I don't want to lose my benefits. 129 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: That said, it is a pretty clear indication that men 130 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:50,239 Speaker 1: are looking at women based on their size and their shape, 131 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: whereas women are looking at men for like whether or 132 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: not will survive the winter, you know what I mean, 133 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: Like it truly is just whether our blood will continue 134 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: to pump through our bodies, whereas men are looking at like, yeah, 135 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: but what that thing look like? Turn it around, it's 136 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: it's fantastic. She's the best, And so we're more shallow 137 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: and women are better, I guess is what this is finding. 138 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: But ultimately, I think what the study really found is 139 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: that although they can identify these genes that sort of 140 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: share attractive qualities, or at least identify attractive qualities. The 141 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: attractiveness often defend or at least our perception of attractiveness 142 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: often depends on the studies, population, on age groups, on 143 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:40,559 Speaker 1: cultural background, and many other factors. So to answer your question, Desmond, yes, 144 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 1: it is possible for two unattractive people to make a 145 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: pretty baby. Some man with a funked up eyeball below 146 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 1: cholesterol can press into a woman with gargoyle ish teeth 147 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 1: an ideal body mass, and then somehow those two people 148 00:08:56,720 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 1: can create Rihanna. It is possible. However, seems to be 149 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: more of an algorithm than it is easy math, if 150 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: that makes sense. It's not. It's not just a certainty 151 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 1: that these two ugos pressed together and make a beautiful person. 152 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: It's not like a word problem, you know what I mean. 153 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: It's not like, Oh, if an ugly motherfucker leaves this 154 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 1: house at two pm, traveling at eight miles per hour, 155 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 1: how many hours will it take for him to bump 156 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 1: into a front beho to make love to show your work, 157 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? That's not the vibes here. 158 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: But more importantly, and this is something that I like 159 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: to I like to make sure that we we remember 160 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: in all of this more importantly, because so many of 161 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:39,959 Speaker 1: the beauty standards in America are created and determined by 162 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 1: rich white people, it's fair to say that our sense 163 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: of what is and isn't attractive is far less in 164 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: our control than we care to even admit. You know 165 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: what I mean. We're not dictating what's going in these magazines. 166 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: We're not deciding what's sort of being presented as like 167 00:09:56,600 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: the staple of beauty and ugly. It's all being controlled 168 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:06,199 Speaker 1: by propaganda and a bunch of skinny dweebs and high towers. 169 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: And so with that, all that really matters. What we 170 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: should be walking away with is not sitting here and 171 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 1: trying to decide if two ugos can make a pretty baby. 172 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 1: All that matters is that whether your baby is beautiful 173 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: or whether your baby is ugly, you do your best 174 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: to leave that baby with lasting emotional damage, not because 175 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: of how they look, but because of the lingering trauma 176 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 1: from your own childhood, due to your child, what was 177 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:34,559 Speaker 1: done to me and what was done to the parents 178 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: before me, So that we all walk around hating ourselves, 179 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 1: not physically but internally for all the ship that we 180 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 1: can't control, that was handed down through generations and generations 181 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: of damage. That's what I believe. It don't matter if 182 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 1: you ugly, it don't matter if you're beautiful, as long 183 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: as your depressed. That's what I'm gonna leave you, folks 184 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 1: with your beautiful and as always, if you love to 185 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 1: send us a beautiful recording of your own, I'd love 186 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: to hear from you. You can contact me. I'm desperately 187 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: awaiting your calls, much like Miss Cleo. She and I. 188 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 1: I think she's dead, but Miss Cleo and I were 189 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: both still waiting on your calls. Her in the afterlife, 190 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 1: me presently in a in a basement apartment in New 191 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 1: York City. We would love to hear from you. So 192 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:26,679 Speaker 1: please send those recordings or those notes, or those messages 193 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 1: to my Mama pod at gmail dot com. I love 194 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: you so much. I'll miss you in the short time 195 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 1: that we're away from each other. Bye, bitch, motherfuckingar soul, 196 00:11:44,679 --> 00:12:00,679 Speaker 1: motherfucking many years so, motherfucking so, motherfuck m