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Speaker 1: from Coast to Coast. Now here's a highlight from Coast

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Speaker 1: to Coast AM on iHeart Radio, And let's talk a

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Speaker 1: little bit about the deep state if we can r

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Speaker 1: us what, in your opinion is the deep state? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so this is a really interesting topic. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: at Who, What, Why, dot or we write about the

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Speaker 1: deep state all the time. Our colleagues and the more

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Speaker 1: conventional news organizations always poo poo this stuff. But it's

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Speaker 1: a legitimate concept that the constpt of deep state comes

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Speaker 1: from almost a century ago in Turkey when Kamal added Turk,

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Speaker 1: the reformer leader of that country after they got rid

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Speaker 1: of the monarchy Uh. He was concerned that the country

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Speaker 1: was going to go from monarchy to become a radical

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Speaker 1: Islamic state, and in order for that not to happen,

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Speaker 1: he began to create mechanisms to ensure that no matter

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Speaker 1: what happened in the elections, the country would always stay secular.

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Speaker 1: This is the first use of the term deep state. Uh.

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Speaker 1: If you if you were to be let's say, a

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Speaker 1: graduate student in Turkey, you would learn about this term.

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Speaker 1: It's a respected term, it's accepted. The concept, George, of

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Speaker 1: the deep state is simply that there are interests that

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Speaker 1: are not going to leave it to chance. They're not

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Speaker 1: going to leave it to the popular vote. Uh. And uh,

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Speaker 1: they work to make sure that their values, their philosophy,

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Speaker 1: and I would say to some extent certainly their own personal, uh,

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Speaker 1: financial and other interests are secured. And so we've had

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Speaker 1: a deep state in the United States going back to

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Speaker 1: the founding others. I mean, there have always been people

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Speaker 1: of means who basically rigged things in their favor. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And that really, to me is what the deep state is.

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Speaker 1: It's not some occult thing. It's a lot of people

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Speaker 1: who come from privileged backgrounds, went to certain schools, joined

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Speaker 1: certain fraternities and country clubs, and they talk to their friends.

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Speaker 1: They're members of things like the Council on Foreign Relations.

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Speaker 1: Maybe they go to these things like the Builderberg meetings

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Speaker 1: and they talk you know, often openly, and they talk

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Speaker 1: about you know, they talk about you know, policy, you know,

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Speaker 1: and what's good for the country. Well, it's usually what's

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Speaker 1: good for them. And these people can get together and

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Speaker 1: they can say, hey, you know, John Kennedy, this guy's

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Speaker 1: a problem, he's dangerous. Whatever they want to say about him.

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Speaker 1: They can say that about Bobby Kennedy. Of course, you know,

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Speaker 1: there's some discussion about have they said that about Donald Trump?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know that. It's a partisan thing.

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Speaker 1: And would you call them the Illuminati? You know, the

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Speaker 1: Illuminati is a is a concept out of Germany. Um.

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Speaker 1: You know, there are certain elements in these kinds of

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Speaker 1: elite parts of society that they are involved with these uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, so called higher knowledge things. You probably know

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Speaker 1: that the the you know, thirty third degree Masons and

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Speaker 1: so forth. At the John F. Kennedy assassination, almost every

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Speaker 1: major figure that appears to be connected to that was

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Speaker 1: Mason Deely. Plaza was designed by Mason's. It was in

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Speaker 1: a Masonic it was a Masonic symbol. I mean, who

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Speaker 1: knows what these people do to entertain themselves or to

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Speaker 1: justify and create and you know, kind of elevate almost

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Speaker 1: to a religion uh self interest. I mean I think

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Speaker 1: that's really what this comes down to. But you've got

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Speaker 1: these kind of elements, certainly in the FBI, uh, which is,

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Speaker 1: by the way, just historically was just thick with members

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Speaker 1: of secret societies, uh, the c i A, the n

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Speaker 1: s A. The military is very very clannish at the

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Speaker 1: higher levels. Um. And so you've got this stuff all

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Speaker 1: over the place, the State Department, and but you know, look, George,

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Speaker 1: they feud with each other. You know, there were a

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Speaker 1: dressed changing the lines. Is it's not a simple thing

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Speaker 1: for us to understand this. We really have to put

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Speaker 1: in some serious effort. Would they also be part of

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Speaker 1: the Bohemian grove same top of folks. Yeah, absolutely, I

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Speaker 1: know some people who have got out there. Uh you know,

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Speaker 1: this is a bunch of super rich guys sitting around

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Speaker 1: naked in the woods up north of San Francisco. And

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Speaker 1: they you know, they're supposed to be like pretending to

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Speaker 1: worship a giant owl. It's totally wacky, but it creates

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Speaker 1: this cohesion. It's just like George W. Bush, George H. W. Bush,

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Speaker 1: the grandfather, Prescott Bush, they were all members of Skull

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Speaker 1: and Bones, you know what is at you know, they

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Speaker 1: put him in a crypt they you know, in junior

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Speaker 1: high George H. W. Bush was a member of I

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Speaker 1: think it was junior high of another organization where you know,

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Speaker 1: he had to sleep in a graveyard. I mean, these

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Speaker 1: are these kind of hazing rituals. They're supposed to create bonds.

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Speaker 1: They are bonds of loyalty and secrecy that they will

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Speaker 1: never read each other. Yeah, it's very similar to like Omerita.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's very similar to what you find in

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Speaker 1: organized crime. Well, the deep state is real, it's out there,

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Speaker 1: and what's their agenda? What do they want to do? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I mean again, I don't think that it's simple and

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's a fixed group of people. I

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Speaker 1: think if you look at people like you know, I

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Speaker 1: I would say, people like the Koch brothers. Um, you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know is you know some people will talk

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Speaker 1: about sorrows. I mean, you know, what is the deep state?

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Speaker 1: I mean probably some of his business interests were in

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Speaker 1: cooperation with the US government. I mean, I would just

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Speaker 1: say the deep state could be thought of as unelected

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Speaker 1: or largely unelected people making decisions that affect all of us.

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Speaker 1: We don't vote on it, it's not discussed by Congress,

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Speaker 1: it is not necessarily adjudicated by courts. But I hope

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Speaker 1: that as we continue talking tonight and I can't remember

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Speaker 1: how long we're supposed to go after that, great okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, I want to kind of be a little

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Speaker 1: circular here because I think whether it's what happened to

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Speaker 1: Bobby Kennedy, I think whether it's what we're talking about

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Speaker 1: now with the deep state, and uh, you know, to

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Speaker 1: some extent, the deep state gets disgruntled with a with

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Speaker 1: a Trump that you know, they can't control, but they

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Speaker 1: also get disgruntled with Bernie Sanders, you know, that they

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Speaker 1: can't control. So it's an interesting kind of of of

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Speaker 1: a bipartisan uh very much an establishment kind of an entity.

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Speaker 1: And these things I think tie into what happened to

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Speaker 1: Bobby Kennedy, what happened to Martin Luther King, what happened

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Speaker 1: to John F. Kennedy. They help us understand, uh, why

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Speaker 1: our elections don't work very well. Why you have you

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Speaker 1: see all these kind of disproportionate results, and people say,

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Speaker 1: you know, you were just talking earlier about the about

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Speaker 1: the internet, you know, and they're getting rid of all

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Speaker 1: these uh safeguards that we don't get taken advantage of,

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Speaker 1: uh so that they can't jack up our bills, the

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Speaker 1: consolidation of these corporations. None of these things are in

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Speaker 1: our interests. Of course, they're not in the instance democracy,

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Speaker 1: they're not interests of real vigorous capitalism. But and yet

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Speaker 1: they continue to happen. And so you've got to start

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Speaker 1: looking at things like who are the Supreme Court justices?

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Speaker 1: I mean, these people themselves are some of them are

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Speaker 1: members of these kinds of secret societ. Potter Stewart, who

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Speaker 1: was on the Supreme Court, was in Skull and Bones,

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Speaker 1: and so they all know each other. It's a club.

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