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Like it's breakover capabilities. 0:02:17.480 --> 0:02:19.400 I like a breech plug that you can unscrew with 0:02:19.440 --> 0:02:22.519 your hand. I like how light it is, like everything 0:02:22.560 --> 0:02:28.000 about it. Check out c v A for muzzleloaders, and lastly, 0:02:28.040 --> 0:02:31.560 our buddies at the Western Bear Foundation their nonprofit hunting 0:02:31.600 --> 0:02:36.000 conservation organization fighting the good fight out West for Bears 0:02:36.040 --> 0:02:40.280 their membership driven organization, so you can join the Western 0:02:40.280 --> 0:02:44.400 Bear Foundation and support their mission to help bears and 0:02:44.440 --> 0:02:50.919 to help hunters. Western Bear Foundation check them out. Colby M. 0:02:51.919 --> 0:02:55.639 Colby moorehead. Hey, welcome to the Bear Hunting Magazine Global headquarters. Man, 0:02:56.320 --> 0:02:59.240 this covid stuff has it's knocked out. Colby has been 0:02:59.360 --> 0:03:04.720 uh working remotely, yeah, we'll say, yeah, but working hard. Yeah, 0:03:05.000 --> 0:03:10.920 working hard. Bear Hunting Magazine, North Hunting Magazine North. Hey, 0:03:11.040 --> 0:03:14.640 you know that we're deep in the heart of squirrel 0:03:14.720 --> 0:03:19.680 a pellooza really, oh of course, yeah, this is deep 0:03:19.800 --> 0:03:23.280 deep in the heart of squirrel the palooza one which 0:03:23.320 --> 0:03:25.880 is uh where me and the kids and many other 0:03:26.200 --> 0:03:30.760 families are. We haven't been able to go every day because, 0:03:30.840 --> 0:03:33.720 you know, sometimes we have something going on in the evening. 0:03:33.919 --> 0:03:36.360 Usually we're hunting in the evenings. But we're trying to 0:03:36.440 --> 0:03:39.840 squirrel hunt as absolute much as possible over the next 0:03:39.840 --> 0:03:44.280 sixty days. Is this increasing your squirrel craft your squirrel crafting, 0:03:44.640 --> 0:03:49.360 oh my ability to make arts and crafts with squirrel stuff. Yeah, 0:03:49.480 --> 0:03:53.000 ornaments are done. It's not that season, so like like 0:03:53.160 --> 0:03:56.200 I'm already making some Christmas ornaments for next year. Well, 0:03:56.240 --> 0:03:58.640 Kolby is referring to as a video that I made 0:03:58.680 --> 0:04:02.720 for Meat Eat, where I made a Christmas ornament out 0:04:02.720 --> 0:04:06.520 of squirrel tales. I want to read you a text 0:04:06.520 --> 0:04:09.120 message that I sent to a friend of mine a 0:04:09.120 --> 0:04:13.640 few days ago. He says, Clay, if you end up 0:04:13.640 --> 0:04:15.560 doing any squirrel hunting this week, and it would work 0:04:15.840 --> 0:04:18.520 to have folks join. We're super interested. And this is 0:04:18.560 --> 0:04:20.599 a friend of mine I hunt with and his kids. 0:04:20.880 --> 0:04:23.720 And I say, yes, probably go tomorrow. We may go 0:04:23.920 --> 0:04:27.000 this evening for the last hour. He says, We're up 0:04:27.000 --> 0:04:31.000 for both. Just let me know, all right. And this 0:04:31.200 --> 0:04:33.599 is sometimes things just come out of your mouth and 0:04:33.640 --> 0:04:37.840 you realize that it's that the that the that the 0:04:38.080 --> 0:04:42.560 energy behind it is deeper than even what you realized 0:04:42.640 --> 0:04:46.600 when you said it. Okay, looking forward to And I 0:04:46.640 --> 0:04:52.039 said ten four stand by, squirrel of Pellooza is raging 0:04:52.400 --> 0:04:55.720 and the flame blows hither and yonder at its will. 0:04:56.920 --> 0:05:01.240 So poetic, and uh so, what I was trying to 0:05:01.279 --> 0:05:02.880 say is I don't know if we're gonna go this 0:05:02.920 --> 0:05:06.320 afternoon or tomorrow afternoon, but I'll let you know. So 0:05:06.880 --> 0:05:09.280 Squirrel Peluza, We're we're gonna try to go this afternoon 0:05:09.279 --> 0:05:13.880 if it's not too cold. Um there, not not too cold. 0:05:14.360 --> 0:05:15.920 That's not what I meant to say. What I'm meant 0:05:15.920 --> 0:05:18.599 to say. If it's not raining. Cold does not affect squirrel. 0:05:18.600 --> 0:05:24.720 The Pelluza was a little surprised rain does affect squirrel. Pelouza, Well, hey, 0:05:24.839 --> 0:05:28.720 we're gonna get right into the heart of of this 0:05:30.160 --> 0:05:34.160 monumental episode of the Bare Honey magazine podcast. Um, we 0:05:34.160 --> 0:05:37.400 we need to break some news to people, Colby that 0:05:37.400 --> 0:05:41.560 that really no one would know. Uh. People may have 0:05:41.640 --> 0:05:43.720 noticed in the last two weeks we haven't put out 0:05:43.720 --> 0:05:47.039 a podcast. They might have just speculated that it was 0:05:47.080 --> 0:05:49.800 like the holidays or something. Um, but it was It's 0:05:49.800 --> 0:05:51.799 a little bit deeper than that, and this is really 0:05:51.839 --> 0:05:57.400 a Uh we're extremely excited to say that this is 0:05:57.440 --> 0:06:02.719 the final episode of the Bear Honey magazine podcast. Yep. 0:06:03.360 --> 0:06:10.039 Those words are They may seem counterintuitive because I said, 0:06:10.120 --> 0:06:13.839 we're excited to say that this is the final Bear 0:06:13.920 --> 0:06:19.080 Hunting Magazine podcast episode. Yep. We currently have made how 0:06:19.080 --> 0:06:21.440 many podcasts have we made? A hundred and this will 0:06:22.600 --> 0:06:26.520 hundred and fifteen podcasts. So basically, for the last two 0:06:26.560 --> 0:06:30.200 and a half years, we have produced a weekly podcast, 0:06:30.920 --> 0:06:35.400 maybe just missing a week or two random times. The 0:06:35.480 --> 0:06:37.560 reason I'm excited to say this, Colby, is because we 0:06:37.600 --> 0:06:40.880 have a big announcement that I think it's gonna make 0:06:40.880 --> 0:06:45.880 everybody happy, is that we are starting a new podcast. 0:06:47.040 --> 0:06:50.679 So though this is not though this is the last 0:06:50.720 --> 0:06:54.320 episode of the Bear Hunting Magazine podcast in its current form, 0:06:54.360 --> 0:06:58.920 this is not the last that you're gonna hear from this. Uh. 0:06:59.080 --> 0:07:02.000 This this chance annal and we're starting a podcast with 0:07:02.080 --> 0:07:05.640 meat Eater as we as we told people before, I 0:07:05.800 --> 0:07:10.880 now work for meat Eater, also work for Bear Hunting Magazine. 0:07:10.920 --> 0:07:17.760 None of that's changed. Um, I still publish an edit 0:07:18.200 --> 0:07:21.840 Bear Hunting Magazine. You still work for bar Haunting Magazine. 0:07:22.080 --> 0:07:27.840 Bear Hunting Magazine has never been better. Um. And but 0:07:28.240 --> 0:07:31.360 I do work for meat Eater, you know. And it's 0:07:31.400 --> 0:07:34.640 been an incredible three months. And from the very beginning 0:07:34.800 --> 0:07:39.800 we have been formulating with meat Eater a podcast. And 0:07:39.840 --> 0:07:44.280 as many people know, meat Eater has a suite of podcasts. People, 0:07:44.520 --> 0:07:48.200 unless you're really paying attention, sometimes this isn't it's not intuitive. 0:07:48.240 --> 0:07:52.200 But there is such a thing as the meat Eater podcast. 0:07:52.280 --> 0:07:55.160 Let's just speak clear here. The Meteator podcast is Steve 0:07:55.280 --> 0:08:00.520 Ronelli's podcast. Okay, meat Eater to the company has a 0:08:00.560 --> 0:08:05.680 suite of podcasts, and those podcasts, aside from the meter podcast, 0:08:05.960 --> 0:08:10.240 would be the Hunting Collective with Ben O'Brien, Wired to 0:08:10.320 --> 0:08:15.840 Hunt with Mark Kenyon, Bent with Joseph Mellie and Miles Nolte, 0:08:17.040 --> 0:08:26.880 Umw's We Can Review with Ryan Callahan and Warren Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:08:26.920 --> 0:08:29.080 I'm coaching. When you when you say them all on 0:08:29.080 --> 0:08:31.000 the line, it's hard. Well, there's gonna be another one, 0:08:31.040 --> 0:08:33.560 and it's gonna be it's gonna be a podcast that 0:08:33.600 --> 0:08:37.200 I'm gonna do for me eater, Okay, And we can't 0:08:37.240 --> 0:08:41.880 go into extreme detail or much details all other than that, 0:08:42.280 --> 0:08:46.560 if you are currently subscribed to this RSS feed, one 0:08:46.640 --> 0:08:51.160 day in the near future, you're gonna wake up and 0:08:51.160 --> 0:08:55.880 you're gonna look on your phone and it's gonna say boom, 0:08:55.920 --> 0:09:00.840 something that's gonna say podcast and you might even see 0:09:00.840 --> 0:09:03.840 a picture of me. I don't know, maybe not. Don't 0:09:03.840 --> 0:09:07.360 look for a picture of me. Just it's gonna say podcasts, 0:09:08.360 --> 0:09:12.600 not meat Eater, and you need to listen to that 0:09:12.640 --> 0:09:16.720 podcast because we're doing something different. We're doing something that's 0:09:16.920 --> 0:09:22.480 very different than this, and I'm very confident that it's 0:09:22.520 --> 0:09:27.360 gonna be enjoyable, and it's been enjoyable for me so far. 0:09:27.760 --> 0:09:34.040 It really has been very very neat stuff. So stay tuned, 0:09:34.800 --> 0:09:37.480 just keep watching your podcast feed. And all I can 0:09:37.520 --> 0:09:42.280 say is sometime in the near future, this RSS feed 0:09:42.280 --> 0:09:46.960 will transition into that media podcast. So there we haven't 0:09:47.120 --> 0:09:52.880 there it is. Um. What I wanted to do today 0:09:53.679 --> 0:09:57.080 on this final episode was kind of go back and 0:09:57.080 --> 0:10:00.480 track a little bit of our our history pod casting 0:10:00.800 --> 0:10:03.280 and maybe me even tell a little bit of my 0:10:03.520 --> 0:10:09.520 personal journey into this form of media. And um, and 0:10:09.559 --> 0:10:11.520 I want to hear some of your stuff too, Coldy. 0:10:11.679 --> 0:10:14.920 You know, for the last year and a half, almost 0:10:14.960 --> 0:10:20.000 two years, I guess you've been producing the podcast for me. Um. 0:10:20.120 --> 0:10:24.800 But let me say that I originally was hesitant to 0:10:24.840 --> 0:10:27.320 get into podcasting. I was a little bit late to 0:10:27.360 --> 0:10:32.480 the game of podcasting. Five years ago podcasts where like 0:10:32.480 --> 0:10:37.240 like everybody started to have podcasting, and every month forward 0:10:37.320 --> 0:10:40.440 that we went from that time, it was like, you 0:10:40.480 --> 0:10:43.040 need a podcast, you need a podcast. People were telling me, Clay, 0:10:43.080 --> 0:10:44.400 you ought to do a podcast, You ought to do 0:10:44.440 --> 0:10:47.920 a podcast, And to be honest with you, I was 0:10:48.080 --> 0:10:51.200 leary to do it because first of all, I just 0:10:51.280 --> 0:10:55.360 wasn't sure that I wasn't sure how if it would 0:10:55.400 --> 0:10:59.880 be valuable to people. And secondly, from a real per 0:11:00.000 --> 0:11:04.360 personal position, Kolbe. All these forms of media that I 0:11:04.400 --> 0:11:09.000 had done in the past allowed me to kind of 0:11:09.200 --> 0:11:14.560 script how I wanted to be portrayed and how much 0:11:14.600 --> 0:11:18.840 of myself that I showed people. Those other forms of 0:11:18.880 --> 0:11:22.640 media allowed me to be very conservative with those things. 0:11:22.760 --> 0:11:26.200 For instance, like video, Like you might you might think 0:11:26.200 --> 0:11:28.640 that video is like, oh wow, they're seeing your face. 0:11:28.640 --> 0:11:30.679 They're here and you talk, they're seeing what you do. Well, 0:11:30.720 --> 0:11:34.000 if you're making video, you you can be very you. 0:11:34.000 --> 0:11:37.600 You release what you want to release. Um, if you're 0:11:38.000 --> 0:11:41.240 being a writer magazine, I mean you're hidden behind a 0:11:41.280 --> 0:11:44.240 whole bunch of other stuff. Uh, you don't have you 0:11:44.240 --> 0:11:45.920 You you tell the reader what you want to tell 0:11:45.960 --> 0:11:50.040 the reader. Podcast is pretty different. And I'm not saying 0:11:50.040 --> 0:11:52.640 I don't have control of what I say, because I do. 0:11:53.280 --> 0:11:57.800 But when you have an hour to two hours every 0:11:57.880 --> 0:12:03.120 week of free flow comp versation with another person, you 0:12:03.240 --> 0:12:06.920 reveal a whole lot about who you are. And up 0:12:07.000 --> 0:12:08.920 until two and a half years ago, I was not 0:12:09.000 --> 0:12:11.760 comfortable with that. I just didn't. I just didn't feel 0:12:11.760 --> 0:12:17.120 like it was the right time. And something happened and 0:12:17.160 --> 0:12:20.400 I was just like, Okay, now's the time, and in 0:12:20.520 --> 0:12:24.640 my kind of journey. Many things have come about that way, 0:12:25.960 --> 0:12:29.600 just like it wasn't right, It wasn't right, it wasn't right, 0:12:29.640 --> 0:12:31.520 and then all of a sudden it felt right, and 0:12:31.559 --> 0:12:33.280 I pulled the trigger. And when I pulled the trigger 0:12:33.520 --> 0:12:35.400 on anything, I tried to do it to the best 0:12:35.400 --> 0:12:37.800 of my ability, to try to make it as good 0:12:37.800 --> 0:12:41.880 as I could. And so I committed to making a 0:12:41.920 --> 0:12:50.000 weekly podcast and that ended up being like really significant 0:12:50.160 --> 0:12:53.599 for us and for our business, and not necessarily financially. 0:12:53.640 --> 0:12:55.880 I don't want to paint the picture that someone would 0:12:55.920 --> 0:12:59.440 think that like you're living in a dream world if 0:12:59.440 --> 0:13:02.440 you think you're to get rich off a podcast like ours. 0:13:02.640 --> 0:13:06.679 I mean, it's just not um. But inside of our 0:13:06.720 --> 0:13:09.840 business and inside of our mission statement of what we're 0:13:09.840 --> 0:13:12.760 trying to do in the bare Hunting world and in 0:13:12.840 --> 0:13:15.839 the honey world in general, and inside of this being 0:13:15.840 --> 0:13:19.600 a small business that me and you run, UM, it 0:13:19.679 --> 0:13:26.560 became really valuable to us, definitely because people, you know, 0:13:27.480 --> 0:13:30.280 people got to know us, people got to know what 0:13:30.360 --> 0:13:36.360 we valued, people got to see some really valuable, incredible people, 0:13:36.760 --> 0:13:41.880 you know. And uh so the Bare Honey Magazine podcast 0:13:42.040 --> 0:13:46.920 for me was a developmental tool personally, Like I tell 0:13:47.120 --> 0:13:50.480 I say this to some people, is that you know, 0:13:50.679 --> 0:13:54.959 human communication is like an extremely important part of our 0:13:55.040 --> 0:13:57.440 lives and whatever field you live in. I mean, you 0:13:57.480 --> 0:13:59.480 may think you don't need to communicate, but you do. 0:14:00.360 --> 0:14:06.199 And uh, to practice communicating in a thoughtful way is 0:14:07.000 --> 0:14:11.160 it is very developmental, especially when you're talking with experts, 0:14:11.520 --> 0:14:16.280 or you're talking with people that have some knowledge that 0:14:16.320 --> 0:14:19.480 you don't have, or you're trying to mind something out 0:14:19.480 --> 0:14:22.280 of them that you know they have that maybe they 0:14:22.280 --> 0:14:27.240 don't even know they have, but you see it. And Uh, 0:14:27.400 --> 0:14:29.400 I can go back to the first podcast that I 0:14:29.440 --> 0:14:32.200 did two and a half years ago, and I can 0:14:32.280 --> 0:14:34.440 hear a difference in the way that I think and 0:14:35.680 --> 0:14:40.480 talk even and inside of my life. Colbe moorehead, I 0:14:40.600 --> 0:14:46.360 value personal development at all levels. Um, I'm not happy 0:14:46.440 --> 0:14:50.080 with the human that I am today. I mean, I'm content, 0:14:51.000 --> 0:14:54.520 but I know that there's developmental processes inside of me 0:14:54.640 --> 0:14:58.200 that are good. It's good for me to stretch myself 0:14:58.240 --> 0:15:01.760 and to grow in knowledge and all all kind of stuff. 0:15:02.080 --> 0:15:05.040 And to me, the podcast has been a massive platform 0:15:05.120 --> 0:15:09.280 for personal development. I've had to overcome. Uh. I mean 0:15:09.280 --> 0:15:11.600 you may not hear it, but I mean there's been 0:15:11.640 --> 0:15:16.080 times in this podcast when I have had overcome insecurity 0:15:16.160 --> 0:15:24.760 and fear. Um, there's been there's been administrative difficulties on 0:15:25.080 --> 0:15:28.120 organizing and getting things set up. And I mean we've 0:15:28.440 --> 0:15:33.080 we've traveled extensively at times just for the podcast to 0:15:33.160 --> 0:15:36.560 go meet people, which may not have made sense. It's like, golly, 0:15:36.640 --> 0:15:40.200 you're gonna drive eight hours one way and do it 0:15:40.280 --> 0:15:43.680 to our podcast and turn around and come back. Um. 0:15:43.720 --> 0:15:48.760 You know it took dedication, sacrifice, some discipline, some time management, 0:15:49.320 --> 0:15:52.680 all these things, and I think those things are really 0:15:53.080 --> 0:15:58.600 positive for sure. And uh, I know it was development 0:15:58.720 --> 0:16:00.400 inside of you. And you know you've not been on 0:16:00.440 --> 0:16:03.720 every podcast, I mean so, but you've you've been on 0:16:03.720 --> 0:16:06.080 a lot of them, and you put your hands on 0:16:06.120 --> 0:16:09.280 almost all of them on the back side of production 0:16:09.400 --> 0:16:11.680 and different things, and a lot of them would have 0:16:11.720 --> 0:16:14.040 been you know, you would have had influence that people 0:16:14.040 --> 0:16:16.840 wouldn't see, like maybe an idea for a podcast, or 0:16:16.840 --> 0:16:19.120 how you ought to talk to that person or this person, 0:16:19.200 --> 0:16:25.320 and uh, can you speak to that in any way? Kobe? Yeah, yeah. 0:16:24.960 --> 0:16:28.720 I mean, for one thing, the technological side of it, 0:16:28.920 --> 0:16:31.560 Like I had to be pretty technical. Whenever a challenge 0:16:31.560 --> 0:16:33.800 would come up, I would have to do some research 0:16:33.800 --> 0:16:36.840 and figure out how to how to manage that. Uh, 0:16:36.880 --> 0:16:40.320 even the equipment we have today took a process. So 0:16:40.400 --> 0:16:42.600 like if you if you listen to the earlier ones, 0:16:42.640 --> 0:16:45.120 it sounds so much different than it does now. And 0:16:45.160 --> 0:16:49.240 so there was just like growth inside of that process. Um. 0:16:49.280 --> 0:16:52.760 But even just like you know, being willing to uh 0:16:52.960 --> 0:16:55.880 always struggle with jumping into a conversation, and so I 0:16:55.920 --> 0:16:58.480 think that you know, it made it to where I'm 0:16:58.520 --> 0:17:01.200 you know, had to. I had to develop that a 0:17:01.240 --> 0:17:03.800 little bit. You know, It's like I still have more 0:17:04.240 --> 0:17:07.000 room to grow inside of those things. But at the 0:17:07.040 --> 0:17:09.800 same time, it's like there has been development inside of 0:17:09.840 --> 0:17:14.159 that uh that area, and even just you know, thinking 0:17:14.160 --> 0:17:19.080 about possible topics in and knowing that not everything that 0:17:19.119 --> 0:17:23.000 I bring is um going to be necessarily a good 0:17:23.000 --> 0:17:25.639 idea like on brand or whatever we want to do 0:17:25.680 --> 0:17:28.320 inside the podcast, but it was still like a valued idea. 0:17:28.760 --> 0:17:31.200 Just so just being willing to that mean that builds 0:17:31.240 --> 0:17:34.280 a sense of vulnerability. It's like I'm willing to share 0:17:34.359 --> 0:17:36.240 something even though it's shot down, and I know it's 0:17:36.240 --> 0:17:40.120 still valued. You know. You know, collaboration is just that 0:17:40.560 --> 0:17:44.199 kolbe when you're partnering with somebody to do something. It 0:17:44.240 --> 0:17:48.040 doesn't mean that yeah, that's because for the one good idea, 0:17:48.440 --> 0:17:52.280 there may have been four that they weren't bad ideas, 0:17:52.320 --> 0:17:55.240 but they just weren't the idea. Yeah, you know, so 0:17:55.480 --> 0:17:58.600 yeah yeah, or even like what we name these what 0:17:58.720 --> 0:18:01.600 we name the podcast is sometimes the hardest thing, you know, 0:18:02.040 --> 0:18:04.520 or what we write up about it or anything. And 0:18:04.600 --> 0:18:08.359 so just even inside of that learning how to think 0:18:08.440 --> 0:18:11.280 in different ways of just like how is you know, 0:18:11.320 --> 0:18:14.800 in communications like sometimes and what the things that we've 0:18:14.840 --> 0:18:18.200 been doing. It's not a two way conversation, So it's 0:18:19.080 --> 0:18:22.440 learned to think in a way that we share something 0:18:22.480 --> 0:18:24.880 in it and it conveys a message to where there's 0:18:24.880 --> 0:18:27.199 not like some follow up question or something, you know. 0:18:27.640 --> 0:18:29.920 And so I think so even inside of that form 0:18:29.920 --> 0:18:33.199 of communication, it's something that it's helped me think in 0:18:33.240 --> 0:18:36.720 a different way. And even now, I mean it's that 0:18:36.760 --> 0:18:39.280 thing is going to continue to go even without being 0:18:39.320 --> 0:18:42.640 involved in the podcast, but just inside the magazine and 0:18:42.640 --> 0:18:45.880 and what information we put out on social media and everything, 0:18:46.280 --> 0:18:49.119 it's forming a different way of how to engage in 0:18:49.119 --> 0:18:52.080 a thought, you know, not like here's a recipe for 0:18:52.160 --> 0:18:54.320 how you do something every time, But it's just learning 0:18:54.320 --> 0:18:57.080 a new way to think and so that that's been 0:18:57.480 --> 0:19:01.320 a process that's I don't know how like tangible it 0:19:01.359 --> 0:19:04.080 can be, but it's definitely something that's that's real, that's 0:19:04.080 --> 0:19:08.840 happened in the background. Yeah that's good man, that's good. 0:19:09.840 --> 0:19:14.639 You know. So aside to from like this personal process 0:19:14.720 --> 0:19:17.560 that both you and I have had inside of producing 0:19:17.640 --> 0:19:22.439 this kind of media, UM, we've also put out a 0:19:22.440 --> 0:19:25.600 lot of good information for bear hunters, and not just 0:19:25.720 --> 0:19:28.720 bear hunters. I told somebody the other day about one 0:19:28.800 --> 0:19:32.000 in every five bear Hunting magazine podcast we talked about 0:19:32.359 --> 0:19:37.400 bear hunting. Uh. So you know, for somebody that maybe 0:19:38.680 --> 0:19:43.480 has isn't familiar with the style of content that we have. UM, 0:19:43.840 --> 0:19:46.200 we don't always talk about bear hunting. We've we've kind 0:19:46.200 --> 0:19:49.720 of let this podcast be a platform for just whatever 0:19:49.960 --> 0:19:54.400 we wanted to talk about that was outdoor related, hunting related. 0:19:54.800 --> 0:19:57.199 I mean, we've had some to this day some of 0:19:57.240 --> 0:20:00.840 the most commented on podcasts that we it had to 0:20:00.880 --> 0:20:05.200 do with the ones on raising kids and building family culture. Yeah. 0:20:05.560 --> 0:20:08.760 I mean I think the last night I got a big, 0:20:08.800 --> 0:20:11.520 long email from some guy that had never listened to 0:20:11.560 --> 0:20:15.679 our podcasts. But kind of started listening to several of 0:20:15.720 --> 0:20:18.600 them found that one, and then when he did, he 0:20:18.600 --> 0:20:20.560 started listening to all the rest of him. I mean, 0:20:20.600 --> 0:20:23.480 that doesn't directly tie the bear hunting. That was a 0:20:23.920 --> 0:20:27.800 idea it probably it was. It was building family culture. 0:20:28.240 --> 0:20:34.160 Yeah yeah, so but to me, it's it all fits 0:20:34.480 --> 0:20:39.479 so well together because I mean I always say this, 0:20:39.600 --> 0:20:46.560 but hunting, the actual acquisition of wild protein is always 0:20:46.600 --> 0:20:50.960 about something bigger, and that's something bigger has always been 0:20:51.000 --> 0:20:56.720 about feeding your family, feeding people, and so like to 0:20:56.800 --> 0:20:58.680 be some great hunter, and we say it all the time, 0:20:58.720 --> 0:21:02.320 but to be some great hunter, but to be to 0:21:02.320 --> 0:21:06.800 to not be a successful husband and father or mother, Um, 0:21:06.840 --> 0:21:09.840 there's a hole inside of that, you know. Yeah. Well, 0:21:09.880 --> 0:21:12.879 even the idea for that podcast wasn't like, oh, this 0:21:12.960 --> 0:21:16.240 is what people want to hear. It was because I 0:21:16.280 --> 0:21:18.680 feel like the thing inside of the podcast that we've 0:21:18.720 --> 0:21:21.800 done is trying to be authentic. So it's like it 0:21:21.920 --> 0:21:24.480 was something that you could authentically speak to because it 0:21:24.600 --> 0:21:27.399 was something that you actively build and pursue inside of 0:21:27.400 --> 0:21:30.160 your life, and it's and so it wasn't like a 0:21:30.160 --> 0:21:32.639 stretch to say, ho, let's do a podcast about this. 0:21:33.200 --> 0:21:38.000 It was this reflects like authenticity inside of what happens here, 0:21:38.720 --> 0:21:41.359 you know. And so I feel like inside of all 0:21:41.400 --> 0:21:45.040 these podcasts, it's been kind of a reflection of what's 0:21:45.040 --> 0:21:47.919 authentically something that you would do. Like even like the 0:21:47.960 --> 0:21:50.800 Snake podcast with Chris Jenkins, it was like you have 0:21:50.840 --> 0:21:54.359 a fascination for snakes, you know, and uh, the same 0:21:54.400 --> 0:21:58.560 thing with like personal development, white tail hunting, squirrel hunting, 0:21:58.600 --> 0:22:03.240 coon hunting you oh uh. And just like valuing people, 0:22:04.400 --> 0:22:07.040 I think that's one of the common threats too. So 0:22:07.119 --> 0:22:11.080 like the or Province podcast or you know, Most Shepherd 0:22:11.320 --> 0:22:14.520 or James Lawrence or your dad, like just all these people, 0:22:14.600 --> 0:22:18.719 it's like it wasn't like it's not that they're valued 0:22:18.760 --> 0:22:20.960 because of what they've done, is because of who they are, 0:22:21.000 --> 0:22:23.960 and they've they found a lifestyle and they they lived 0:22:24.000 --> 0:22:26.640 that lifestyle out that they were just they were authentic 0:22:26.720 --> 0:22:29.480 to you know, And I think that was really like 0:22:29.600 --> 0:22:33.160 one of the driving forces inside the podcast was was that, 0:22:34.080 --> 0:22:36.400 you know, it's something that you might not be able 0:22:36.400 --> 0:22:39.440 to nail down at times. But I mean I was 0:22:39.480 --> 0:22:42.360 thinking about even the Aaron Snyder podcast we did, It's 0:22:42.400 --> 0:22:44.760 like we didn't ask him questions that you would hear 0:22:45.080 --> 0:22:48.440 you know him asked on another podcast, and so that 0:22:48.520 --> 0:22:52.199 kind of identifies the value that we have or what 0:22:52.320 --> 0:22:55.960 we see as value inside of the podcast, inside of hunting, 0:22:55.960 --> 0:23:01.000 inside of our own lives. You know. Yeah, yeah, that's 0:23:01.000 --> 0:23:07.679 good insight. And we have sought to be authentic and 0:23:07.680 --> 0:23:10.440 and at times that authenticity is just giving out good 0:23:10.440 --> 0:23:14.040 bear information, which we have. You know. Uh, it would 0:23:14.040 --> 0:23:15.840 be fun to go back through all the titles of 0:23:16.040 --> 0:23:21.480 the hundred and fifteen podcasts, because some of some of 0:23:21.520 --> 0:23:26.520 them were just like tactical, like dummies guy debating bears, 0:23:26.560 --> 0:23:31.720 how to how to judge bears, judge bears, um, you know, 0:23:31.880 --> 0:23:34.560 utilizing bear meat and bear fat, like, some of them 0:23:34.600 --> 0:23:38.320 were really practical, um and and functional. And I think 0:23:38.320 --> 0:23:42.399 that's really important because you know, I mean we do 0:23:42.520 --> 0:23:45.600 have a I mean inside of the context of what 0:23:45.640 --> 0:23:47.680 we're doing at Barony Magazine, I mean, we are trying 0:23:47.720 --> 0:23:53.520 to give people bear hunting information. But I think what 0:23:53.600 --> 0:23:57.400 we what we did was we maybe drew a lot 0:23:57.440 --> 0:24:02.160 of people that weren't bear hunters into this world through 0:24:02.200 --> 0:24:04.320 other things that they were interested in, whether it be 0:24:04.440 --> 0:24:07.840 squirrel hunting or deer hunting or family stuff or and 0:24:07.880 --> 0:24:13.440 then they got here and they they saw something, maybe 0:24:13.440 --> 0:24:16.560 they got interested in bear hunting, And I don't really care. 0:24:16.760 --> 0:24:20.520 I mean, yeah, I do have I do want people 0:24:20.560 --> 0:24:22.639 to be interested in bear hunting, but not just for 0:24:22.680 --> 0:24:25.399 the sake of people going out and killing more bear. 0:24:25.960 --> 0:24:31.119 I mean, like, I'm interested in bear hunting because people 0:24:31.160 --> 0:24:34.480 getting interested. I'm interested in people getting interested in bear 0:24:34.560 --> 0:24:38.439 hunting because I feel like it's a critical component of 0:24:38.480 --> 0:24:41.840 the North American hunting model, and also know that it 0:24:42.119 --> 0:24:45.840 is a part of the model that is in jeopardy 0:24:46.800 --> 0:24:53.080 because of anti hunting sentiment and many different other things. Culturally, 0:24:53.200 --> 0:24:55.440 I mean, just just the idea that the average person 0:24:55.520 --> 0:24:57.359 you walk up to on the street be fun to 0:24:57.400 --> 0:25:00.760 do this, Like just go ask somebody, do you humans 0:25:00.760 --> 0:25:04.639 eat bear? In um, It depends on where you were 0:25:04.680 --> 0:25:07.440 asking that question. Some places, you know, probably eight out 0:25:07.440 --> 0:25:10.240 of ten would say yes. Some places ten out of 0:25:10.240 --> 0:25:13.520 ten would say no. So just this kind of cultural 0:25:13.560 --> 0:25:18.800 idea that bears aren't a usable resource, it's actually detrimental 0:25:18.840 --> 0:25:21.520 to the whole of North American hunting. Yeah, So that's 0:25:21.520 --> 0:25:24.200 why I think it's good to educate people about bear hunting, 0:25:24.600 --> 0:25:27.000 Educate people about the commodities that we get from bear 0:25:27.080 --> 0:25:29.000 hunting and how we actually use more of a bear 0:25:29.040 --> 0:25:32.280 than we do in almost any other kind of critter 0:25:32.400 --> 0:25:36.480