1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: This is the almost Famous podcast with iHeartRadio. Hi everybody, 2 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:10,879 Speaker 1: It's Trista and Bob for the Almost Famous OG podcast, 3 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: and I'm so excited about today. I love this guest, 4 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: and I know everyone out there does too. She's such 5 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: a fan favorite. She truly is like a success story 6 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: in every sense of the word. In that Yeah, maybe 7 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: the show didn't work out for her, but she found 8 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: her true love. She went on to do amazing things. 9 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 1: Written to two cookbooks, she's written a children's book, she's 10 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 1: birth two babies, she's about to get married, she has 11 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: success stories out the wazoo, her Jillibox. She's done some 12 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: home improvement shows that I know everyone has heard of 13 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: Extreme Makeover, her Home Edition, love at her list it, 14 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: and gosh, I just I feel like everyone in Bachelor 15 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: Nation just looks up to this beauty and this mom 16 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:15,199 Speaker 1: because she's so real. She shares everything with everybody, and 17 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: I truly feel like if you don't look up to her, 18 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: you should, right. 19 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 2: Yes, I agree that she's super relatable too, Like you know, 20 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:30,400 Speaker 2: when you actually meet Jilly, she is so sweet and 21 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:34,320 Speaker 2: funny and unassuming and yeah, you know she's She's really 22 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 2: all those things that you would hope she would be, 23 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 2: and then then some you know, then you meet Justin 24 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 2: and you know, you meet her family, and it's like 25 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 2: she's doing it right, you know what I mean. 26 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 3: So I think that I think you're absolutely right. 27 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 2: That's a beautiful introduction to our guest who's joining us today, 28 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 2: who we are very very excited. 29 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 3: She's not an easy get, by the way, right, I 30 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 3: mean to busy. He's busy. She's busy. 31 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: I mean the first option was like a month or 32 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: two maybe two months from now, and I was like, 33 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: well that's far away, so I don't know if anything 34 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: will come up, but yeah, put her on. But luckily 35 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 1: we got her. She you know her as Jillian Harris. 36 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 1: She was on Jason Mesnick season and then she was 37 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 1: the Bachelorette season five. So welcome Jillian Harris. 38 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 3: Jilly Bean. 39 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, so good to see both of you. 40 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 3: So good to see you too. 41 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 4: Thanks for having me, Thanks for coming. 42 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 1: It was hard to get to you. You're a busy lady. 43 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:40,639 Speaker 4: You know, we're getting married finally this summer, and we 44 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 4: have a new puppy. 45 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 1: What I saw, that's true, it's true. 46 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 3: Look at that little beauty. 47 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 4: Oh you are pressious new kitten, and the kids are 48 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 4: out of school and I'm still working, so it's been 49 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 4: a bit crazy this year, this summer. 50 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 2: I'd say, so, well, we were just talking about you, 51 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 2: how you have always been so sweet and just such 52 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 2: a wonderful breath of fresh air. 53 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 3: And then of. 54 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:14,239 Speaker 2: Course the slippery goose he's out there, he's doing his thing, 55 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 2: which we all love. Justin and I mean, congratulations on 56 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 2: the upcoming nuptials. 57 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 4: Took me thirteen years to really be sure. See this 58 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 4: is the wrong, this is wrong with me on the Bachelor. 59 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:28,239 Speaker 4: You have like thirteen days. I need like thirteen years. 60 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 4: I mean, I. 61 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: Will say, though, you're going to give yourself some grace 62 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: because you guys were supposed to get married during COVID, Rightyeah. 63 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 4: I wanted to. I wanted to cancel before COVID, like 64 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 4: I was the happiest COVID ride. I was like, God, 65 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 4: Hans pandemic, I could cancel my. 66 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: So before you came on, I introduced you and and 67 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: I just said, if people don't look up to you, 68 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: they should, because girl, you are so freaking amazing, like 69 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: so successful, so someone that I truly honestly look up 70 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: to from the franchise and just a normal life as 71 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: a friend. But I you are just I mean a 72 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 1: force to be reckoned with mom soon to be wife, 73 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 1: but a fiance up to that, and not just a 74 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: human mom. But you had to And I'm so sorry 75 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:29,720 Speaker 1: about Nacho, but yeah, of course. But now this cute 76 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: little baby chero, Oh my gosh, I'm so glad. Oh no, 77 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:39,919 Speaker 1: thank you. But we haven't written three books and do 78 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: a blog and have a super successful you done, I know, 79 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 1: but I just. 80 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 4: Do other things. But thank you so much, you know. Yeah. Always, 81 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 4: Like I always tell my mom and dad, I'm like, 82 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 4: we're only on this planet once. Like, I got a 83 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 4: lot to do. Like there's no guarantee that we're gonna 84 00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 4: get reincarnated or go to heaven or all these other 85 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 4: things we're talking. But I want to make sure I 86 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 4: do all the things I need to do in my 87 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 4: short time on this planet. 88 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 1: So well, you're getting a lot of it done. 89 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you are. 90 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 2: You're getting some mileage're getting your steps in, as they say, 91 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:13,239 Speaker 2: Uh yeah, that's pretty great. 92 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 4: Okay, wait, how old have you guys been? How long 93 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 4: has this blog been? Uh? Going on? For her? 94 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 2: So the almost famous uh, the almost famous things started 95 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 2: with Ben and Ashley, and then iHeart and Sugarman approached 96 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 2: us to do the almost famous ogs where we would start. 97 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,600 Speaker 2: You know, we weren't so much about the current events, right, 98 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 2: We were a little bit more about some stuff that's 99 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 2: that's had some time to see, some. 100 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 3: Real deals. 101 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 2: So it's been a lot of fun because you know, 102 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 2: we've touched base with so many people that we've met 103 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,479 Speaker 2: over the years and you know, just loved from the 104 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 2: show and from all the other things that they've done. 105 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 2: But how many years just I mean, we got to 106 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 2: be a few years in by now, right what three years. 107 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: And I was literally just telling someone about it. They 108 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: were like, oh, tell me about the podcast, and I 109 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: I feel like it's been more than because we've moved 110 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: into our house in a year and a half ago. 111 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: It's been at least a year before that, so it 112 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: almost three years, maybe four years. I don't know something 113 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 1: like that. 114 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 4: I'm so out of touch with podcasts, And it's so 115 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 4: funny because I do a lot of I'm a guest 116 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 4: on a lot of podcasts. People always say I sh 117 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,239 Speaker 4: have my own podcast, but I just it's just never happened. 118 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 4: But I know, don't take offense. But I tried to 119 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 4: listen to podcasts, but I think I have a very 120 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 4: undiagnosed extreme case of ADHD, and so I can't even 121 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 4: listen to you to like justin, he knows that whatever 122 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 4: he has to say that he has to get it 123 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 4: out in like thirty seconds otherwise, like looking even. 124 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: My staff, is that one of the secrets to your relationship? 125 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 1: You just he knows. 126 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 4: It's the secret as to why it's taken us a 127 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 4: wone to get married. Even our staff they joke that 128 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 4: if I'm on to call for more than thirty minutes 129 00:06:54,120 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 4: that I start shopping on anthropology. So anyways, I'm not uh. 130 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 4: I we get invited to some podcast too, and I'm like, 131 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 4: I don't know, is this fake? Is this real? 132 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: I don't know? 133 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 4: Anyways, I was like, yes, I'm in I know. 134 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: I do. I actually wrote Caitlin a thing because she's 135 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: good friends with Christian Cavaliery. 136 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 4: I got invited to this one to me too. 137 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: When I sent it to her and I was like, 138 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: is this legit? Can you ask her? Because I don't 139 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 1: think it's legit and I need to confirm And she 140 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: said no, those things come all the time, So don't 141 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:29,119 Speaker 1: always sends people. 142 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 4: My two favorites, Chelsea Handler and Kelsey the what's her name, 143 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 4: the sister, the sister in law. 144 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey's yes, yes, yes, and my was like. 145 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, you got invited and I was like, 146 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 4: this is fake, Like that's so I know. But we've 147 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 4: got each other. We've got each other. That's all. 148 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 3: Use us as your mouth piece. We got you covered. 149 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: Well, we're totally getting into the wedding. We're totally getting 150 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: into the wedding. And we have some bachelor obviously related 151 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: questions current relations, but we want to get into back 152 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: in the day. So obviously you came in I think 153 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: third on Jason seasoned right, and then you went on 154 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: to be Bachelorette and you and Edward together, and you 155 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:39,439 Speaker 1: come off the show and hello, tabloids. We all know it. 156 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 1: We're all on the cover of tabloids. And the tabloids 157 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 1: were a thing back then. It really isn't a thing now. 158 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: But I feel like you walk into a grocery store 159 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: and your your face is plastered all over the every 160 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 1: single magazine and all that people are saying is that 161 00:08:55,200 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: he has girlfriends that are not you and help chaos like, like, 162 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 1: describe to us how that was coming off of the 163 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: show and having to see all those tabloids and probably 164 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:12,599 Speaker 1: maybe even finding out tell us finding out about the 165 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: girlfriends through the tabloids. 166 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:16,319 Speaker 4: Well, I have to be careful because the last time 167 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 4: I spoke about Ed was when we came together, remember 168 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 4: the Bachelorette reunion. Yes, I felt like it was fairly complimentary, 169 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 4: like I gave the cold work based on what everybody. 170 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 4: But I got a scathing email from him, like I'm 171 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 4: talking like a ten pager, and I was like, wait 172 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 4: a second, weren't you the one that was terrible to me? Like, 173 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 4: I don't think you get to tell me what I 174 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 4: can say or not say. But anyways, I just didn't respond. 175 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 4: And I honestly wish him the best. He's got a 176 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 4: beautiful wife and a beautiful baby. Oh my gosh, I 177 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:47,719 Speaker 4: sometimes creep because the baby's so cute. I got to 178 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 4: see what she looks like and how she's growing up. Anyways, 179 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 4: so I wish him no harm like I, but like, yeah, 180 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 4: that was this very very traumatizing time. And to his 181 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 4: to his defense, being on the show is a mind, 182 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 4: it's a total mind. And he asked to be on 183 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:09,679 Speaker 4: the show, he got recruited, and he did have girlfriend 184 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 4: uh at the time, which, by the way, I've had 185 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 4: I've had multiple I've did multiple people before too. That 186 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 4: doesn't make him a monster. But I think that he 187 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 4: just thought it was going to be a fun adventure. 188 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 4: I don't think that he thought that I was going 189 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 4: to fall in love with him and that he might 190 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 4: have feelings for me. And I think that he was 191 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 4: just like holy and as you know, once you get 192 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 4: to the end, your life has just exploded, Like you 193 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 4: don't even recall what was happening back home because you're 194 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 4: being jetted everywhere, You're at these fancy mansions, you're dealing 195 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 4: with big wigs at ABC, you're on you're on the 196 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 4: Ellen Show. Like it is so hard to stay grounded. 197 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 4: So I don't fault him for any of that, but 198 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 4: it doesn't matter. Just the whole scenario was so traumatic 199 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 4: because in my little Jilly Hart, I started to cry. 200 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 4: But like I just wanted I just wanted somebody to 201 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 4: love me, and I had like had such I just 202 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:08,079 Speaker 4: wanted to have I wanted I wanted a relationship, and 203 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 4: I wanted babies, and I'd been a heartbroken so many times, 204 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 4: and I was sort of like, what is wrong with me? 205 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 4: I know what's wrong with me. I'm thirty forty five. 206 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 4: I know it was wrong with me, but anyways, I 207 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 4: just didn't see it back then, and I was just like, 208 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 4: I'm actually writing a memoir. I'm writing a book like 209 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 4: from the Times a little Girl, and I've really been 210 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 4: able to unpack some of the like trauma from my 211 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 4: whole life. And I think when that happened, I just 212 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 4: felt like failed again. Like I felt like I'm always 213 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 4: looking even though my parents did their best, like that 214 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 4: was hard. So I just felt like my whole life 215 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 4: I could never had that one person that would just 216 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:49,319 Speaker 4: like take care of me. And I just was convinced 217 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 4: that Ed was the one, even though looking back, no 218 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 4: he wasn't, but like I just I had convinced myself, 219 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 4: and so when that happened, I was like, great, here 220 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 4: I am again, just humiliated again, failure again. So it 221 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 4: was just embarrassing and it just sucked. And it's not 222 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 4: really Ed's fault. It's just we put ourselves in that position. 223 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 4: He had a life before, I had trauma and heartaches 224 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 4: that he didn't know about before. And actually the show 225 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 4: I don't know if you guys have talked about this 226 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 4: with any of your past clients, but they really give 227 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 4: you such a vigorous psychological testing before you go on 228 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 4: the show. I don't know if they still don't do that. 229 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 4: But after my psychological testing, which is like a test 230 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 4: a book like this big, they actually brought me a 231 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 4: psychologist and they said that they want me on the 232 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 4: show because they feel that I would be good entertainment 233 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 4: and I have all the qualities they're looking for besides 234 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 4: the ones that Mike Flais doesn't like, which is a 235 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 4: raspy voice, Canadian short, no boobs, you know. But other 236 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 4: than that. Other than that, they wanted me on the show. 237 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:55,319 Speaker 4: But they were really worried about my emotional capacity if 238 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:57,959 Speaker 4: I were going to be heartbroken, because somewhere in those 239 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 4: psychological tests they saw that I was very fragile. And 240 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 4: when I don't know if I'm allowed to say all this, 241 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 4: but when Jason dumped me, they actually flew that same 242 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 4: psychiatrist psychologist to New Zealand to bring me home because 243 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 4: they were so afraid of how heartbroken I would be. 244 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 1: That is the first time I've ever heard that. 245 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 2: Home that's actually can I honestly, this is like one 246 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 2: time where I will actually defend the show a little bit. 247 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:29,679 Speaker 3: That's amazing that they did that. 248 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 4: That would have been expensive, like first, yeah, yeah, that 249 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:35,199 Speaker 4: would have been very expensive to hire her, to pay her, 250 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 4: to pay for her room and all that kind of stuff. 251 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 4: So anyways, it was very traumatic. But I do say 252 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 4: everything happens for a reason. I always talked to Justin 253 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 4: and the kids about maintaining an abundance mindset, and when 254 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 4: you have an abundance mindset, you really have to believe 255 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 4: that even the shittiest times are there to build you 256 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 4: up and set you up for success. And so, yeah, 257 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 4: it sucked, and I was like after that moment, I 258 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 4: think I was like ninety two pounds and I was 259 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 4: very unwell. But I'm stronger because of it. And yeah, 260 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:12,719 Speaker 4: I don't know. I think I just I have more 261 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 4: compassion because of it, and I have no regrets. I 262 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 4: wouldn't picked somebody else. I would have had fun read 263 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 4: and I had so much fun in the time that 264 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 4: it lasted, Like when we were good, we had a 265 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 4: good time. Yeah he was a funny, fun guy, Like yeah, 266 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 4: you know he was. 267 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 3: I love your attitude, Yeah, I do. 268 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 2: Too, because you can you can take you know, And 269 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 2: I do think sometimes the show puts so much pressure 270 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 2: on the success of that relationship, and you know, the 271 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 2: Tristan and Ryan's of this world are very few far between, right, 272 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 2: I Mean when you look at. 273 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 3: The track record of the success. 274 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 2: Of the show in that mindset of what you know 275 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 2: the success would be, there's very few people. And it's 276 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 2: like it is kind of hard because you come through 277 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 2: it thinking that you're a loser. I mean I went 278 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 2: I went through the same thing, not as bad. I 279 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 2: mean I didn't. 280 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 3: I feel like for me, it was one of the 281 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 3: those things. 282 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 2: Where I was not expecting it to work, and then 283 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 2: when it would all of a sudden be working, I'd 284 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 2: be like, oh my god, this isn't this isn't gonna last, 285 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 2: you know. 286 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 3: Or whatever. I almost was like self sabotaging totally. 287 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 2: But I can I can totally relate to that because 288 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 2: I feel like, especially when you come off of that 289 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 2: and having the history that you had had previously, walking 290 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 2: into the grocery store and seeing, you know, seeing your 291 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 2: face on the cover of a tabloi with a rip 292 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 2: down the middle does not do you any favors. 293 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know there was a rip down the middle 294 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 4: good memory. 295 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, well I had. 296 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 2: The same cover, so I remember, unfortunately a couple of 297 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 2: times for me. 298 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 4: A couple of times on that you know what Ryan season. 299 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 4: It was so much more wholesome back then, Like I 300 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 4: think it's gotten a little bit, you know, raunchy or 301 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 4: whatever and social media media and whatnot. Yeah. So, and 302 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 4: you know, Bobby said something about like being a loser. 303 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 4: One of the things I tell the kids all the 304 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 4: time is we're all we're all losers. Can't be winter. 305 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 4: Can't be winter all the time, Like you can't be 306 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 4: weird moments. You're just going to be a loser. And 307 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 4: you's got to sit with that and not find a 308 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 4: way to make it funny. 309 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: So true, humor saves everything. It does, unless unless you're 310 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 1: in the midst of a broken heart, and then you 311 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: need a psychologist. Yes, I'm glad you had that. You 312 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 1: Did you stay in touch, like with that psychologist? Did 313 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: you meet with them after the show? 314 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 4: Never saw her ever again, Probably shouldn't have. But my 315 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 4: whole Canadian American thing was always very difficult for me 316 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 4: because I actually the show had me on as a 317 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 4: contestant without actually figuring out like what if I won? 318 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 4: Because once I once ED and I were engaged, and 319 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 4: I went to go move to Chicago, like not even 320 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 4: knowing anything about immigration. I got a border by somebody 321 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 4: who knew me on the show and she's like, no, 322 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 4: you're not moving to Chicago. And I'm like, what do 323 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 4: you mean. She's like, yeah, I'm wait for you to 324 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 4: come through. She's like, you need to be married, you 325 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 4: need to. So ABC had no choice. The had to 326 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 4: hire an immigration lawyer to the actually did a really 327 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 4: good job. They had an immigration lawyer and invested thousands, 328 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 4: tens of thousands of dollars to make sure that I 329 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 4: could actually live with Ed. And I had to find 330 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:19,880 Speaker 4: then remember I found a job on Extreme Makeover Home 331 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 4: Edition and they kind of sponsored me improved that there 332 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,640 Speaker 4: was nobody else like me in the United States. 333 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 3: So what that that basically got you a work visa. 334 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 4: That got me a visa. Yeah, and I may famed 335 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 4: that work visa for just up until like before COVID, But. 336 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:40,120 Speaker 3: Now I, wow, that's awesome. You're done. 337 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 1: You're just going to travel here whenever you need to. 338 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,199 Speaker 4: You don't need via exactly. Yeah. 339 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, So back to ed you obviously got engaged 340 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 1: you I had the ring. We're interested to know what 341 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 1: happened with the ring because we know like Ali got 342 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: to keep her ring after calling off the engagement, and 343 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 1: like Estella, she sold her ring after her and Bob 344 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:14,880 Speaker 1: broke up and I was just talking to her our producer. 345 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 1: I don't know that i'd want to keep the ring 346 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:19,439 Speaker 1: if I was not engaged to the guy, so I 347 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 1: would totally sell it. 348 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, we have it downstairs and or say you do wow. 349 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 4: And here's why I wanted to keep it. That moment 350 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 4: signified such a huge moment in my life. It signified heartbreak, 351 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 4: it signified growth, it signified like a huge step in 352 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 4: my career. I don't think I would have found Justin 353 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 4: without that, like that experience. So I don't know what 354 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:45,439 Speaker 4: we're ever going to do with the ring. But what 355 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 4: I told ABC is I want to you to loot 356 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 4: me in with Neil Lane, and I want to see 357 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 4: from Neil that he actually wants the ring back. If 358 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 4: Neil actually wants the ring back, then fine, I'll give 359 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 4: it back. But if he doesn't, I'll pay for it 360 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 4: or you can. I'm down to rip it out of 361 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 4: my cold hard hands, Like, it's just like who actually 362 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 4: wants the ring back? 363 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 1: Who actually? 364 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 4: And they know that I tried so hard to make 365 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 4: that relationship work and it wasn't because I didn't want 366 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 4: it make it work. I'm like, just like at least yeah, yeah, 367 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 4: oh yeah. 368 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:21,479 Speaker 2: So I had always heard and I don't know if 369 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 2: you've heard this, Trista or if you've heard this, Jillian, 370 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 2: but that they called it the Guinea rule, and. 371 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 3: That if because after Istellas sauld it and made a 372 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 3: lot of money off of it. By the way they. 373 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 2: Made the Guinea rule that you had to keep you 374 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 2: had to stay together. 375 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 3: I thought it was at least a year to keep 376 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 3: the ring. 377 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 2: Otherwise you had to give it back, and they have 378 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:44,880 Speaker 2: a file cabinet full of them. 379 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 4: By my time, it was three years because Ed and 380 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,360 Speaker 4: I had been together for a year. Yeah, I don't 381 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:50,640 Speaker 4: want it three years? 382 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 3: Wow? 383 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 1: So did you end up paying for it? 384 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 4: They didn't make me pay for it? No, but they did. 385 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: They didn't. 386 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 4: He did. Who wasn't It wasn't Rob Mills. It was 387 00:19:58,359 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 4: the other lawyer. I think he was also a raw 388 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 4: I think it was Aylor lawyer. Anyway, he did send 389 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 4: me a huge thing of what I can and can't 390 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:10,160 Speaker 4: do with it, and to me, I didn't really care 391 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 4: at that point, and it's kind of ugly and it 392 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 4: was kind of looks like a football ring offense to 393 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 4: Neil Lane, I don't know. And we have enough jewelry 394 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 4: now that it's like, I think we'll just meet as 395 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 4: a family heirloom. Mummy did this crazy thing, and this 396 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:29,680 Speaker 4: is the ring from that. 397 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: That's funny, you know, it's funny. I have my engagement 398 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 1: ring that was a Harry Winston in my safe too, 399 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: and I'm just like, I'll just keep it and if 400 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: Blakeslee wants it, or we want to make it into 401 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: a necklace someday, or Max wants to give it to 402 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:49,400 Speaker 1: somebody he asked to Mary, Great, then he can do that. 403 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, those are the days. Well, I'm glad you 404 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 2: got to keep that because you deserved it. 405 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 3: I mean, you were and we've often. 406 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 2: I think we met for the first time at the 407 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 2: Janner wedding. 408 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, right at the Jade and Tanner wedding. 409 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 4: I just was looking of that reason. 410 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 2: It's so fun and I love that big group picture 411 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 2: of all of us. 412 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it was so funny. 413 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:13,880 Speaker 2: We came away from that in Canyon, my wife was like, 414 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 2: I just feel like Jillian Harris and I would be 415 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 2: best friends. 416 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 3: I'm like, I know. 417 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 4: I was pregnant. You know I was pregnant? 418 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 3: Then yes, No, I didn't know that. 419 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 4: No, I don't know if I was pregnant. So I 420 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,439 Speaker 4: wasn't drinking at the Janner wedding. Now you think Kenyan 421 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 4: loved me, then how about billionaires drinking? Because I am 422 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 4: a whole new level of like, I'm like jillionaires times 423 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 4: one hundred. 424 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 3: Times one hundred. Oh my god, that's so awesome. Well 425 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 3: we'll have to see that. We'll have to see that. Yes, 426 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:43,400 Speaker 3: I'd like that very much. 427 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay, so one of the biggest pieces of 428 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 1: news lately in Bachelor Nation. Oh, before I get to that, 429 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:52,880 Speaker 1: do you watch the show anymore? 430 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 4: I don't. And it's not because I don't like it. 431 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 4: It's my ADHD. I don't know. I think I don't 432 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 4: know when this started. And two our kids are at 433 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 4: this age that first of all, we have to put 434 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 4: them to bed still, this is so embarrassing, but they're 435 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 4: almost nine and seven, and we stopped to lay down 436 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,160 Speaker 4: with both of them to go to bed and there's 437 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 4: such night owls that by the time they fall asleep, 438 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,679 Speaker 4: I'm going to bed, like I'm yea calling people with them, 439 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 4: or I go to bed and then while they're awake. 440 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:23,919 Speaker 4: Justine's actually quite strict as to like what he allows 441 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 4: our kids to like consecuod for him, I'm not. I'm 442 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 4: like last night Annie and I fell asleep looking at 443 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 4: the anatomy of a vagina because I was explaining to 444 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:33,880 Speaker 4: her that the vagina is actually the whole in the middle, 445 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 4: it's not the labia. So that's what like, I'm super 446 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 4: super super open, but Justin would not allow our kids 447 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 4: to watch. 448 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, Justin needs to give me some lessons. 449 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 2: I So I'm the you and canyons, the Justin Yeah, 450 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 2: And I'm just like like, She'll be like, I won't 451 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 2: know that she has told the boys this. Maybe no, 452 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 2: there's no YouTube, you know nothing, and they'll come in 453 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 2: and go, hey, daddy, can we watch YouTube on your phone. 454 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 3: I'm like, gosh, sure you go. 455 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 2: And then I'm in the doghouse for like the better 456 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 2: part of a week trying to claw my way out. 457 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 3: So I need some lessons on how to how to 458 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 3: strip it up a little bit. 459 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,879 Speaker 4: A very common conversation around our house is just insane 460 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 4: to me, What the hell are you thinking, I'm like. 461 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 3: Because. 462 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 1: I wasn't thinking. I was just doing. Oh I love that. 463 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. So you're going to be the one 464 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 1: having the birds and bees conversation like I. 465 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 4: Did with exactly exactly. 466 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay. So one of the biggest pieces of news 467 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 1: lately is that they're going to be redoing or renovating 468 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:40,880 Speaker 1: the Bachelor mansion. 469 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 4: Needs needs to be done. 470 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: Have you gotten a call from ABC or no. 471 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:54,360 Speaker 3: Like, really, it would be from AHGTV. Actually I've heard if. 472 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:57,399 Speaker 4: They contacted me and wanted me to do it, I 473 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 4: said I was not going to do any more TV. Okay, 474 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 4: but I would do that. But yeah, I'm not really 475 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,159 Speaker 4: an interior like okay. So when I was when I 476 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 4: got scouted for the show, I had taken two years 477 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 4: of interior designer courses and I was a restaurant designer. 478 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,159 Speaker 4: That's all I did. I think I did one or 479 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 4: two houses, but I had never done like residential. I 480 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 4: only did restaurant. And then I was on the show 481 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 4: positioned as an interior designer, and then I got hired 482 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 4: on by Extreme Makeover Home Edition. Sorry, I need to 483 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:34,120 Speaker 4: focus my thing. I got brought on Extreme Ocover Edition, 484 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 4: but that's not really interior design. It's more like decorating, 485 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 4: which is probably what this house would want, but it's 486 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 4: it's not really legit, Like you're not really a legit designer. 487 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 4: You're more just like picking up pink colors and like, 488 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:51,120 Speaker 4: it's not like cad and specifications and binders. And then 489 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,679 Speaker 4: when I was done with Extreme Ocover Home Edition, I 490 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 4: went straight to lever or list It and loved her. 491 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 4: List It. You have legit interior designers that are bringing 492 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 4: your vision to life. So I was basically just like 493 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:07,399 Speaker 4: a glorified client. Really yeah, and now I have Now 494 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 4: I don't do interior design. Now I have the jillibox 495 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 4: and my Instagram page, and I don't do any interior 496 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 4: Like I hired an interior designer for our new house, 497 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,919 Speaker 4: I'm not doing the interior design. However, I could play 498 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:22,400 Speaker 4: the interior designer for The Bachelor Mansion Show. I would 499 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 4: just need a design team and I could give my 500 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 4: the jillionaires aesthetic. 501 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 3: There you go like it? 502 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,120 Speaker 4: That would really work. And I'm great on camera. I'm 503 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:34,920 Speaker 4: great for drama. I think this would be a great 504 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:36,679 Speaker 4: like four part episode was. 505 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 1: For sure for sure. I don't know why they wouldn't 506 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 1: because actually we've heard that they are higher. They're bringing 507 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 1: people from Bachelor Nation. 508 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:50,159 Speaker 4: But what about Joelle Joel Joelle Jojo will do it? 509 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure Jojo would do it. For sure. Jojo 510 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 1: and Jordan, they're a team. We actually just had Chris 511 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 1: Lambdon on and I think he he does some renovations. 512 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: There's Tyler Cameron. 513 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 4: I mean they have. 514 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:07,160 Speaker 1: More did I did a Rocky Mountain reno show. I've 515 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 1: definitely was not the brains of the operation and had 516 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 1: had the team behind us too. But yeah, no, they're 517 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,880 Speaker 1: bringing people back. You are a natural fit. You were 518 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 1: on the original Extreme Makeover. 519 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 3: Let's go. 520 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 4: Yes, I'm interested. 521 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 1: I think I mean we're putting it out there in 522 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:29,360 Speaker 1: the universe. 523 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, Trista still the whole it's called. 524 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:40,680 Speaker 4: I won't say. For the longest time, I never had 525 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 4: time like I would have loved her listed and I 526 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 4: had babies in COVID and other than the Bachelorette reunion, 527 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 4: I never had time to come to any of these events. 528 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 4: But recently I'm starting to have fomo. 529 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 1: Oh we need to do something like for real, we 530 00:26:55,200 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 1: have talked so long on our little text chain, which 531 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 1: has been radio silent for years. I feel like. 532 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 4: That's so awesome that we have not we do, but 533 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 4: we never. 534 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 1: Do anything with it anymore. We need to We need 535 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 1: to bring it back. We need to bring it back 536 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 1: and get a trip on the books because it would 537 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: be amazing to get all the girls together. But also 538 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 1: I have always told Rob Mills, we need to do 539 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 1: a like a reunion for everybody, Like how crazy would 540 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,679 Speaker 1: it be? They don't have to fly everybody in, but 541 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 1: maybe it would be in LA because I don't know 542 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 1: where it would be. 543 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:36,199 Speaker 4: But specialty discounts on the people can pay for their 544 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 4: own right, we're all adults. 545 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, totally, Like just a big, huge fun party. 546 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 4: Televise it and we'll be. 547 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 3: There after you guys did the Bachelorette reunion. 548 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 2: I kept waiting for them to call for the Bachelor reunion, 549 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 2: like I thought they would do one, you know what, 550 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,159 Speaker 2: And they just didn't do it, And I was like, 551 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 2: oh my god, this would be so interesting to me 552 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:57,120 Speaker 2: because you don't. 553 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 4: We're interesting with the ladies because it's the hair that's true, 554 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 4: Like you guys are all just be sitting around farting 555 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 4: in the same outfit like Firestone. 556 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 3: Firestone and I love getting our hair done. It's true. 557 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,239 Speaker 2: Everyone knows that if we can get a little blow up, 558 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:16,639 Speaker 2: we're both happy with that. I can't all right, we 559 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 2: have so much more we want to ask Jillian. So 560 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 2: we are going to take a quick break and we return. 561 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 2: We'll have more Almost Famous ogs with Gillian Harris. 562 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 1: Follow the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast on 563 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:31,159 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.