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Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. I'm Matt Miller and

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Speaker 1: I'm Hannah Elliott, and this is hot pursuit.

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Speaker 2: All right, So I guess Christmas has happened?

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Speaker 3: Is that we're fainting here?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm literally furiously googling a calendar right now

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Speaker 1: to see what has happened.

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Speaker 2: You know, Christmas, it was wonderful.

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Speaker 1: It is my by far, my favorite holiday. I have

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Speaker 1: to really, oh, how could it? How could it not be?

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Speaker 1: It's got magic, It is magic. I mean I've loved

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Speaker 1: it since I was a child.

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Speaker 2: I feel differently about it. I mean, it's just for me.

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Speaker 2: The expectations are so.

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Speaker 3: High, or they have been since I was a little kid, right,

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Speaker 3: And is.

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Speaker 1: This expectations you put on yourself or that other people

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Speaker 1: put on you.

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Speaker 2: I think maybe both. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: For me, it's an emotionally challenging holiday and it always

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Speaker 3: has been, like my whole life. I'm happy about it.

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Speaker 3: Like when I was a kid, I was very happy

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Speaker 3: to get presents, you know, of course, but it just

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Speaker 3: seemed like maybe starting in my twenties, it was just

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Speaker 3: very stressful.

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Speaker 2: I'm always happy when it's over.

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Speaker 1: There's so much to unpack there.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I know, probably too much for a car.

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Speaker 1: I mean, of course I can start asking, well, what

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Speaker 1: happened in your twenties or something change.

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Speaker 3: No, I just think I became an adult and realized, wow,

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Speaker 3: got to give gifts and get gifts, and it's you know, money.

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Speaker 2: It feels like too much money to me.

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Speaker 4: Around this holiday.

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Speaker 2: That's probably what it issgiving.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think a lot. It can be, of

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Speaker 1: course it you know, the thing that I find sometimes

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Speaker 1: is that it exaggerates what already exists in any dynamic.

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Speaker 1: You know, if there are things that are sort of

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Speaker 1: in a family or relationship that are like bubbling under

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Speaker 1: the surface. Oftentimes the holidays are the time that that

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Speaker 1: really comes out, whether it's whatever like money problems like

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Speaker 1: be really stress right relationships stuff, Oh completely like whatever

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Speaker 1: sort of there, it's gonna really exaggerate. For sure. I

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Speaker 1: have to say, I hope that you had a really

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Speaker 1: nice Christmas. You know, in Spain, maybe that's a nice

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Speaker 1: way to avoid some stress.

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Speaker 3: Yeah it is, No, it really is. Also because I

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Speaker 3: do it differently in Spain, so at home, yes, we would,

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Speaker 3: you know, everyone wakes up very early because the youngest

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Speaker 3: kids want, you know, to get going at six or whatever.

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Speaker 1: Of course, and.

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Speaker 3: Then we all start drinking mimosas like straight away. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: so that by the afternoon when you have to go

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Speaker 3: to Grandma's like in a coat and tie, it's a

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Speaker 3: little bit less fun.

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Speaker 1: Now, do you have a mimosa? No?

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Speaker 3: Well, I don't drink anymore, but no. And I also

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Speaker 3: don't spend Christmas at home anymore. So now okay, some

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Speaker 3: of them, yeah, married, we we come to Spain for

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Speaker 3: Christmas and they do Christmas in Spain on the evening

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Speaker 3: on Christmas Eve on the twenty fourth.

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Speaker 2: That's great, which to me always felt like not as good.

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Speaker 3: But I guess it's great because you're not hung over

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Speaker 3: by the afternoon.

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Speaker 1: Really oh gosh, yeah, no headache.

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Speaker 3: What was your did you have like a did you

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Speaker 3: have a thing that you stick to? Do you still

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Speaker 3: do the same thing?

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Speaker 1: Growing up in my family, we would we would go

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Speaker 1: to church on Christmas Eve and then you know, have

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Speaker 1: some presence and then Christmas morning. Of course, I was

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Speaker 1: I still get up pretty early Christmas morning because I'm

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Speaker 1: still excited, and you know, just kind of have a

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Speaker 1: lazy day. There's of course a Christmas meal at some

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Speaker 2: I always had to go to at least two sets

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Speaker 2: And it was like formal meals at everyone's house.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, you know, in my adult life, I've had

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Speaker 1: all kinds of Christmases. I've spent Christmas alone in New

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Speaker 1: have been happier. I've traveled, you know, I've been out

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Speaker 1: had lots of different different Christmases, and it's I think

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Speaker 1: that is really freeing too. I'm perhaps impervious to guilt,

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Speaker 1: It helps me don't have kids.

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Speaker 3: And now that I have kids and they're just little

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Speaker 2: Still pumped, you know, of course. But it's also I

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Speaker 2: don't love the winter and the weather. You know.

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Speaker 1: Oh you don't do you snowmobile at all?

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Speaker 2: Uh No, I never really got into it.

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Speaker 1: Oh interesting, huh.

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Speaker 2: But you do skies.

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Speaker 1: You like skiing ski?

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Speaker 2: I love the ski Now that's another story.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but that's usually after Christmas. You know, the

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Speaker 3: snow is not great at the end of December. All right, Well, listen,

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Speaker 3: I wonder what it's like in Las Vegas, Hannah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Las Vegas for Christmas could be a thing. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure it is for some people. But the last time

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Speaker 3: Let's get into it. Here is Andy McCann Rolls Royce

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Speaker 1: You know, Andy, I think i've I've known you sort

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Speaker 1: But I wanted to have you on because your life

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Speaker 1: I'm so excited to talk to you because I want

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Speaker 1: you to share your wisdom and insight about proper driving

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Speaker 1: and what it really takes to be a private driver,

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Speaker 1: but also your view on it is really holistic and

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Speaker 1: I think it touches on a lot of really interesting things.

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Speaker 1: So Andy, it's really nice to have you with us,

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Speaker 1: and I can't wait to dive in.

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Speaker 5: Well.

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Speaker 4: First of all, thank you very much for the invitation.

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Speaker 4: Much appreciated, and I don't know who enjoyed the day most,

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Speaker 4: whether it was you or me when we spend the

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Speaker 4: day driving around the desert in outside of Las Vegas.

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Speaker 4: Driving is something that is very close to everyone's heart.

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Speaker 4: Everyone thinks they're a superstar, and those people that aren't

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Speaker 4: superstars want to be superstars, but actually they very rarely

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Speaker 4: think about the ingredients to be a superstar. You know

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Speaker 4: I think when you are how to drive, probably as

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Speaker 4: But unfortunately you often learn by mistakes. You're not given

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Speaker 4: So we've actually found that if we take away the

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Speaker 4: You have to create safety and you have to look

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Speaker 1: Driving repeatedly in Vegas, it's probably true.

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Speaker 4: Well it is true. But luckily you weren't a weak link.

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Speaker 4: You were an improving link in a very important chain.

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Speaker 4: And once you once people discover a little bit about themselves,

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Speaker 4: yourself like an athlete. You are performing, and certainly as

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Speaker 4: you're the pilot. You have a lot of responsibility, so

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Speaker 4: every tiny little detail. You're anticipating so much. And if

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Speaker 4: The physical side of driving would actually be how you

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Speaker 4: how you move the pedals. And I think you went

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Speaker 4: through some discoveries when we were together.

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Speaker 1: I completely did. And I was going to say, you

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Speaker 1: good driving. Can you just break it down for us

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Speaker 1: from a very elemental level of the common mistakes that

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Speaker 4: Well, first and foremost people come in many shapes and sizes.

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Speaker 4: I don't know any car that's on the market at

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Speaker 4: people compromise their driving thefore moments by having I won't

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Speaker 4: ineffective driving position. So by aligning themselves behind the steering wheel,

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Speaker 4: they're creating tension. So if you have little tension, then

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Speaker 4: you will be able to rotate the steering wheel more effectively,

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Speaker 4: You'll be able to have better vision looking ahead, You'll

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Speaker 4: have the ability to move the pedals more effectively using

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Speaker 4: different muscles. So that is that's stage one, sitting behind

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Speaker 6: But wait, and is there a certain way we should

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Speaker 2: Sitting up higher?

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Speaker 6: Do I need to be sitting low?

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Speaker 4: Like?

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Speaker 6: Is there one specific position for everybody or does everybody

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Speaker 6: have his or her own position that works best.

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Speaker 4: If we work on a thousand different drivers, we have

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Speaker 4: be in slightly different cars. So it's a lot to

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Speaker 4: do with how your feet are in relation to the

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Speaker 4: steering wheel. So some cars economics are very different some cars,

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Speaker 4: let us say many sports cars, naming none in particular.

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Speaker 4: You have a very feet forward position, so your foot

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Speaker 4: height and your pelvis are very similar, so your legs

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Speaker 4: are slightly in a different position. Your knee joint should

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Speaker 4: be slightly more open. If you're in an suv, the

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Speaker 4: seating position or people carry a family vehicle, the seating

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Speaker 4: position is a little bit more chair like, and of

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Speaker 4: course if you're sitting in a chair, the ability to

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Speaker 4: operate the pedals more effectively is compromised because you're using

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Speaker 4: different muscle groups. So I've been fortunate enough to work

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Speaker 4: with some of the world's best drivers, and some of

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Speaker 4: our let's say methodology has been carried through to making

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Speaker 4: sure that your body is in a ready state, so

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Speaker 4: in a start position rather than a crumpled or too

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Speaker 6: When I think of being a great driver, I think

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Speaker 6: of somebody who knows how to, you know, hit the

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Speaker 6: or someone who's able to be at sort of nine

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Speaker 6: point nine tenths without crossing over. But that I can't

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Speaker 6: imagine that applies to a chauffeur. So isn't there a

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Speaker 6: massive difference between someone who's driving for spoorting pleasure and

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Speaker 6: someone who's driving in order not to disturb, like the

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Speaker 4: Well, actually fat quite the opposite. It's exactly the same.

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Speaker 4: Because balancing a car on a circuit is the same

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Speaker 4: as balancing a car on the road. Your line could

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Speaker 4: be slightly different, but the way in which you turn

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Speaker 4: in and exit a turn, it's physics, and you're balancing physics,

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Speaker 4: and if you get it wrong, guess what Physics will

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Speaker 4: always win. So the way in which you operate the

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Speaker 4: on the public roads, you're still rotating the wheel, you're

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Speaker 4: still using the brakes, you're still using the accelerator. In fact,

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Speaker 4: it's even more difficult on the public road because you've

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Speaker 4: got a lot of more distractions. So it's quite fascinating

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Speaker 4: the art of driving. It's not just stopping at red

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Speaker 4: traffic lights and looking at for pedestrians. The skill. When

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Speaker 4: we're training drivers, we often find that race drivers make

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Speaker 4: incredibly good chauffeurs. We just spend a little bit more

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Speaker 4: time tidying up their etiquette skills in their mannerisms and

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Speaker 4: how to open a door, rather than taking a very

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Speaker 4: good chauffeur that's been in the industry for a long

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Speaker 4: time that knows how the tire double winds are not

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Speaker 4: then wear a suit correctly and polish their shoes, but

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Speaker 4: they don't have the skill in the art of car

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Speaker 4: balance on an open roads is the best of both

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Speaker 4: worlds if you can.

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about etiquette, but I want to

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Speaker 1: first have you describe what we went through related to

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Speaker 1: breaking and specifically the whiskey, gin and tonic and champagne test. Kay,

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Speaker 1: I mean it sounds so fun. It's harder than said

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Speaker 1: than done. Can you explain to Matt and the listeners

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Speaker 1: what that is?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely well, when I was starting to train drivers, I

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Speaker 4: realized that giving somebody a score from one to ten

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Speaker 4: You know, just because you've got a four or five,

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Speaker 4: some people feel a little bit there, I say negative

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Speaker 4: when you give them a score. And imagery. Through my

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Speaker 4: ski coaching days and coaching instructors and races, imagery is

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Speaker 4: very powerful. So we had the impression that if your

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Speaker 4: passengers are sitting in the backseat of the car and

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Speaker 4: they have a wonderful classic bowl of champagne. You have

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Speaker 4: the image your passengers are sipping away champagne from the

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Speaker 4: back of the car. Now you're stopping and you're accelerating.

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Speaker 4: Should be calm enough that they don't spill any champagne

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Speaker 4: from the coop. Now if they are unsuccessful, we were

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Speaker 4: looking at a glass with gin and tonic inside, So

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Speaker 4: the glass has a different shape and it's a little

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Speaker 4: little bit more stable. So if they're breaking and they're accelerating,

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Speaker 4: had kicked back, for instance, we were suggesting that they

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Speaker 4: are quite not at a champagne level, and they're more

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Speaker 4: gin and tonic. Those drivers that have compromised their driving

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Speaker 4: and they've spent probably a long time driving in a

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Speaker 4: kickback from the car. This is where we introduce the

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Speaker 4: whiskey stop. So you're imagining that the whiskey in the

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Speaker 4: bottom of the whiskey glass. So to add little bit

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Speaker 4: of fun and imaginary, we called it whiskey Gina tonic

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Speaker 4: and champagne. Of course, some countries around the world that

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Speaker 4: don't think alcohol. We just had to focus on the

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Speaker 4: shape of the glass rather than the content of the glass.

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Speaker 1: That's really funny.

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Speaker 6: By the way, you were teaching women to drive in

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Speaker 6: Saudi Arabia. Is that because they have women who are

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Speaker 6: chauffeurs or is that just because like rich Shakes finally

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Speaker 6: could teach their wives how to drive.

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Speaker 4: It's a little bit of both. Really, It's not just

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Speaker 4: increasing range of people and private families wanting female chauffeurs, especially,

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Speaker 4: people are starting to become a little bit more mindful

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Speaker 4: wanting female chauffeurs because they feel, rightly or wrongly, a

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Speaker 4: And I think on that regular side, a lot of

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Speaker 4: people feel more comfortable with a female chauffeur in those

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Speaker 4: women haven't had a driving license for very long, so

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Speaker 4: it was interesting to spend time training a women's only

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Speaker 4: chauffeur group most recently, and you know the challenges, and

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Speaker 4: working and they have less ego.

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Speaker 1: So tell us a little bit more about that for

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Speaker 1: all women. What what I didn't hear you? What city

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Speaker 1: are you in and give us a little more color

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Speaker 1: about what that was like. I'm so fascinated by that work.

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Speaker 1: And that's part of your White Drug, oh your White

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Speaker 4: The White Glove, the White Glove is specifically Rolls Royce

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Speaker 4: bit old school and not very imaginative. I looked at

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Speaker 4: people wearing white gloves in the service industry, in the military,

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Speaker 4: and of course it's a signal of respect touching. Whether

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Speaker 4: We're not suggesting people drive with white gloves, however, in

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Speaker 4: some countries they do, where the people and the company

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Speaker 4: shouldn't ignore having a high percentage of female drivers. It

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Speaker 4: at a women's only chauffeur company, So that alone is

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Speaker 4: take along with me twenty traffic cones in set up

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Speaker 1: So tell us a little bit about the etiquette side

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Speaker 1: of this. When we work together. You said really interesting things,

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Speaker 1: Can you sort of walk through some of those things, of.

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Speaker 4: Course, I think well, first and foremost, if you are

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Speaker 4: If you're standing by the car either rear wheel, that

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Speaker 5: You are looking forward to group a guest.

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Speaker 4: Depending on where that country sorry, depending on where the

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Speaker 5: Is it customary to bout and not to shake their hand,

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Speaker 4: So you need a lot of information about that guest

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Speaker 4: Of our airports are safety these days. And I've been

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Speaker 4: There's a lot of problems with that. First of all,

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Speaker 4: car on their journey to the hotel or their destination.

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00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 4: It's too late because you could turn around and the

439
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:44,919
Speaker 4: bag could be gone. In an ever increasing crime area,

440
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,359
Speaker 4: you don't know who's going to be working along the

441
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:49,919
Speaker 4: pavement or the sidewalk to steal the bag.

442
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 5: Ifs are easy to recognize these days.

443
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,359
Speaker 4: They don't have black masks on or anything like that,

444
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 4: they're not obvious.

445
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 5: So we generally, first of all, great.

446
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 4: The guests lift the bag because lots of roads around

447
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,199
Speaker 4: the airport's are dirty. If you lift the bag and

448
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 4: you place the bag in the back.

449
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,120
Speaker 5: Of the guitar. But there's one thing as well.

450
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 4: We will tell and inform the customer the guest why

451
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:21,159
Speaker 4: you're lifting the bag, and that shows specific care, that

452
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:24,679
Speaker 4: shows high luxury or high touch, if you want to

453
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 4: call it. You will say to them, I'm just lifting

454
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 4: your bag to avoid any oil getting on your wheels

455
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 4: or your bag getting dirty. So you're telling them because

456
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,119
Speaker 4: a lot of people traveling with the Rolls Voice or

457
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 4: Rolls Royce service, they haven't had this level of detailed care.

458
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 4: So you inform your guests you're lifting the bag to

459
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,399
Speaker 4: place it in the bag. Then you would ask the question,

460
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 4: or is this the only bag that you have or

461
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 4: do you have any luggage with you you would like

462
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:56,360
Speaker 4: to place them in the trunk. They often say, actually,

463
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 4: I've got a phone cable, or I have my laptop,

464
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 4: or i have something personal inside that bag.

465
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 5: That's the opportunity to take it.

466
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 4: Then you would close the trunk before you turn your

467
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 4: back on their very very valuable luggage, everyone's log which

468
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 4: is valued because it has many personal items.

469
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,400
Speaker 5: Many of them can't be replaced, so you close.

470
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 4: The trunk because thieves are everywhere and some countries are

471
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,880
Speaker 4: worse than others. You would then open the door because

472
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 4: at this stage the air conditioning. If it's a hot

473
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,719
Speaker 4: they would be running inside the car. You would elegantly

474
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 4: open the door, of.

475
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 5: Course on a roll, so you would.

476
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 4: Make sure that the guest is sitting diagonally behind the driver.

477
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:41,159
Speaker 4: You would then close the door entering the back of

478
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 4: the car.

479
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 5: That's really important. You never walk in front of.

480
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,679
Speaker 4: The guest, and then you sit inside the driving seat,

481
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 4: close your door. If it's a high risk area, you

482
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 4: will immediately lock the doors. If it's not a high

483
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 4: risk area, then it's hot, and then to the choice

484
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 4: of the guest, you will then turn around to lightly

485
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,439
Speaker 4: mentioned the guests that the water is in the door pockets,

486
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 4: not in the cup holders, because that gives a box

487
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 4: fresh feeling, and.

488
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,880
Speaker 5: You will give them an approximate arrival time on their journey.

489
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 5: Would they like to listen to any music, and.

490
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:20,120
Speaker 4: At that point when you turn around, you also make

491
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,199
Speaker 4: a point of turning the rear view mirror so you

492
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 4: cannot see their eyes. I also mentioned this to the guests.

493
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 4: I'm just tilting the rear view mirror so I cannot

494
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 4: see your eyes or we cannot make eye contact, and

495
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 4: that will give you some privacy and.

496
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 5: It will also increase your safety.

497
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 4: Most too, light drivers like to look at their passengers

498
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 4: during conversation. There's nothing wrong with that, although you're compromising

499
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 4: the safety of your passengers because you're not looking through

500
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 4: the big piece of windscreen in front of you.

501
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 5: You're looking behind you, not in front.

502
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 4: So just by the nature of having this rear view

503
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 4: mirror turned, it gives you added safety as well.

504
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 6: I want to know how you learned all this stuff,

505
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 6: Like how did you go from a professional skier to

506
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 6: someone that knows everything about driving and being a chauffeur.

507
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 6: How did you pick all that up? What was this metamorphosis?

508
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 4: Well, I think, first of all, if you're coaching, if

509
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 4: you're coaching anyone on the side of the mountain, the concern,

510
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 4: the threats, the safety and often the panic in someone,

511
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 4: So there's a coaching skill element is one area, but

512
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 4: the components of chauffeuring come from many, many avenues.

513
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 5: I guess.

514
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 4: So I still have a race license, and I still

515
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 4: have a race instructor's license to coach people on the track,

516
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 4: and very much. I think I've been fortunate enough to

517
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 4: be exposed to some of the world's best butlers that

518
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 4: have worked in Buckingham Palace. And I think if you're

519
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 4: fascinated about the industry, you open your ears, you ask questions.

520
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 4: You see where the history comes from. Why is it

521
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 4: that the lady or the female is normally sitting behind

522
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 4: the driver.

523
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 5: That comes from many many years where you would.

524
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 4: Arrive at a location and the coachman, because there was

525
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 4: no engines, there was a horse, would remove their cake

526
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 4: and place it on the ground so madame would not

527
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 4: get her bull gain dirty on the way to the ball.

528
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 4: That's why they would sit behind the coach person or

529
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 4: the person in charge of that stagecoach. So it's been

530
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 4: a fascination of mine and since working with Rolls Royce,

531
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 4: because you're always striving for perfection, I think looking at

532
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 4: these tiny details and adding all of these tiny witchard

533
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 4: isolation a relatively insignificant, but combined, all of these details

534
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 4: made for an effortless experience.

535
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 5: And that's what you're trying to do. You're trying to

536
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 5: give the customer, give the guest, or it could be your.

537
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 4: Boss, the best possible experience. And of course all of

538
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 4: these things added up made for ultimate safety. The passengers

539
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 4: should think for nothing. And I'm sure you've been sitting

540
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 4: in a car at some time, whether it's an Uber

541
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 4: or a taxi or a chow but thinking I could

542
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 4: do better than this. And you shouldn't be You shouldn't

543
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 4: be made to feel this at all. You shouldn't be

544
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 4: made to feel that your safety is compromised by the

545
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 4: quality of the driving. It's currently, at the fac time

546
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 4: in charge.

547
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 5: Of your safety and potentially your life.

548
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 1: So basically every Uber driver in Los Angeles, you've just

549
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 1: described the feeling of terror and compromise that I experience

550
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 1: every time I get into an Uber.

551
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a little bit of a Yeah, you do

552
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 4: find I do find myself having to switch off from

553
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 4: a professional side sometimes when I'm sitting in the back of.

554
00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 5: A cab or an Uber driver.

555
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 4: And if you will know, some are better than others,

556
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 4: and you generally find the better drivers and the more

557
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 4: conscientious are the drivers that have some form of sport

558
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 4: background and they.

559
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 5: Have a little bit of thought about.

560
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 4: The passengers rather than just getting in a car and

561
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 4: going from A to B or a to Z. As

562
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 4: a job, a lot of people consider it as a job.

563
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 4: Some people call it a profession. And if you look

564
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 4: at it as a profession and you're passionate about that profession,

565
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 4: every tiny component that makes up that profession. And we

566
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 4: looked at three indicators. We looked at being sharp, effortless,

567
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 4: and professional. Those three elements create safety. So every single

568
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 4: person should look at those elements the sharp and it's

569
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,719
Speaker 4: not just dressing in a nice pre only dinner jacket,

570
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 4: soup or turning up to work with a crisp white shirt.

571
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 4: It's how you stand, how you present yourself, how you

572
00:32:56,640 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 4: open the door. It's accurate, so there's no compromise as

573
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 4: best as possible.

574
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 6: So you have been a professional skier, You've been an

575
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 6: accomplished ski racer and also an accomplished track driver. And

576
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 6: I was just wondering, are there any parallels between the

577
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 6: skills necessary to ski you know, a downhill course well,

578
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 6: and the skills necessary to race around the track in

579
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 6: a car.

580
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 4: Absolutely, And if you look at the art of skiing,

581
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 4: for instance, and the art of driving, there's two sides.

582
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 5: You've got the doing and the coaching side.

583
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 4: So if we look at the results, if we look

584
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 4: at the what I would call the output focus, like

585
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 4: going round corners, the physics of ski racing are very.

586
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 5: Very similar to car racing.

587
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 4: In fact, there's a little bit of a disadvantage on

588
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 4: skis where it's really difficult to apply the throttle because

589
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 4: you don't have one. So when you release the angle

590
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 4: of a steering wheel, for instance, it's on the exit

591
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 4: of the turn, and we often talk about taking the

592
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 4: angle off off the wheel, and that's during what's.

593
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 5: Known in car racing as a transition from one corner

594
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,760
Speaker 5: to another is exactly the same on a pair of skis.

595
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 4: You're exiting one corner and there's a inducive edge angle

596
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,720
Speaker 4: and you have a transition from one turn to another.

597
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 4: So you're managing the forces and it's balancing the physics

598
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 4: between one turn and another.

599
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 5: So a slalom turn, a giant slalom tern, a super

600
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 5: giant slalom turn, and then you have record downhill. The

601
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 5: turn RADII are different and it's exactly the same in

602
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:33,360
Speaker 5: the car.

603
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 4: The speed, the smaller the turn, the lower the speed,

604
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 4: so the physics are different. The longer the term, the

605
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 4: higher speed, so you've got greater forces.

606
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 5: So the way in which you.

607
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 4: Deal with forces, the faster you've drive, the slower you move,

608
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 4: and also the slower you think.

609
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 5: So it's not only just a physical game, it's a

610
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 5: mental game as well.

611
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I just find it fascinating and it

612
00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 1: does feel all related between managing your body in space

613
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 1: in general, and the body can extend to the vehicle too,

614
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,800
Speaker 1: or the skis. It's just fascinating stuff.

615
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 3: That was Andy McCann talking to us about driving, about skiing,

616
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 3: and about.

617
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 2: I think just basically being a good person.

618
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's really a prince of a guy, kind of

619
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,800
Speaker 1: jack of all trades. I mean, he is the type

620
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 1: of person who you just know. He's the same whether

621
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 1: he is on the street or in you know, the

622
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 1: halls with Royalty, and I think he has been in

623
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 1: both places. And of course we love him because he's British,

624
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 1: so he goes very well with the whole rolls Royce

625
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 1: philosophy and mentality and just touch so great. Talking with him,

626
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 1: I always learned something new.

627
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 2: It was definitely a learning experience.

628
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 3: And now I know different drink demand, different driving styles.

629
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 1: This is right, this is right, but never drinking and driving,

630
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 1: just you know, for training purposes only.

631
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 2: Of course, drinking and driving is horrible.

632
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 3: But back in the day, I was originally watching some

633
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 3: old videos of people from the like fifties and sixties

634
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 3: when when these laws first came into force, and they

635
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,359
Speaker 3: were like, hell, no, I'm going to continue to drive

636
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 3: after drinking beer.

637
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,320
Speaker 1: Oh that was a controversial thing. They like it was

638
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 1: the government interfering with their drinking and driving exactly. I thought,

639
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 1: I was funny.

640
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,240
Speaker 3: Both of us are a little too young to remember

641
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 3: that time, but I saw the historical footage and then

642
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 3: I do remember when the seatbelt laws first came into

643
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 3: fuld No.

644
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 1: Way, you remember that, Yes, I do, and.

645
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 3: I remember because very otherwise intelligent people. I remember saying like,

646
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 3: this is an encroachment on.

647
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,359
Speaker 2: My personal.

648
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 3: And at the time, I was like, yeah, how can

649
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 3: they tell us to wear our seatbelts.

650
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 2: We're only hurting ourselves.

651
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,240
Speaker 1: Right, What were you like five?

652
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 2: Yeah?

653
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 4: I was.

654
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 3: I was very young, and that was for I understood

655
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,879
Speaker 3: insurance in this country, and I'm surprised that they those

656
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:09,359
Speaker 3: people didn't. But I think each incremental safety law has

657
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 3: been controversial at the time, and now, you know, we

658
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,839
Speaker 3: look back and think, how insane would it be to

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Speaker 3: say I can have a couple of Gin and Tonics

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Speaker 3: and then legally like drive my kids to school.

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Speaker 1: You know, that reminds me of the helmet laws, because

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Speaker 1: speaking of Colorado, Colorado doesn't have a helmet law for

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Speaker 1: motorcycle riders, and the minute you cross state lines you

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Speaker 1: start seeing guys just with their hair out in the wind.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, like that seems insane to me, like absolutely,

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Speaker 1: but I know they think, hey, it's my personal freedom, so.

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Speaker 3: I think, you know, I'm not sure about the statistics.

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Speaker 2: I'd have to look into it.

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Speaker 3: But with the seat belts, you know, if you're not

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Speaker 3: wearing your seat belt, your chances of a more serious

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Speaker 3: injury obviously are hot, and then it's going to cost

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Speaker 3: more in hospital bills, and then we all have to

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Speaker 3: pay more. If you're not wearing your helmet, you're probably

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Speaker 3: just gonna die, right, So probably that's much cheaper.

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Speaker 1: Is this your argument in favor of not wearing a helmet?

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Speaker 3: Well, I don't ride a motorcycle without a helmet, but

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Speaker 3: I grew up in Ohio, where I don't think there's

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Speaker 3: helmet laws there. I'm I'm used to seeing people ride free,

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Speaker 3: and I feel like if you get into a I

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Speaker 3: got into a bad motorcycle accident and survived by the

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Speaker 3: skin of my teeth.

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Speaker 2: If I hadn't been wearing my helmet, I.

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Speaker 3: Would be no longer with of because I put my

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Speaker 3: helmet through the windshield of the truck that hit me.

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Speaker 1: So when was this, I didn't know about it.

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Speaker 3: This was maybe now twelve years ago. But yeah, the

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Speaker 3: helmet definitely, and my leathers saved my life. So I'm

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Speaker 3: an all the gear, all the time kind of person.

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Speaker 3: But if you're I, I think it's stupid without a

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Speaker 3: helmet or in a T shirt and shorts, But you, definitely,

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Speaker 3: I guess, have the right to be stupid.

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Speaker 1: All I know is when I first started posting photos,

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Speaker 1: you know, riding motorcycle, standing next to motorcycles whatever in

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Speaker 1: New York many years ago, I would get so many

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Speaker 1: comments about how I needed to be wearing gloves. And

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Speaker 1: this is even if I'm just like standing on the motorcycle,

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Speaker 1: not actually in motion, and I would get yes, so

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Speaker 1: many you know guys, you know, really coming down hard

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Speaker 1: on you, you should be wearing gloves and you should

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Speaker 1: be in full armor, like like seriously, And it's so ironic,

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Speaker 1: it's so it's so unfair. But it's so funny because

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Speaker 1: you know, you step outside in LA and to your point,

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Speaker 1: you yes, they're wearing helmets, but they're wearing flip flops

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Speaker 1: and T shirts and yeah, that's about it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, funny it is.

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Speaker 3: And I guess I've been guilty in the past of saying, like,

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Speaker 3: you need to put on some gear.

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Speaker 2: But it's none of my business.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, gloves obviously are one of the most important.

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Speaker 1: For sure, for sure, and when I'm riding, I often

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Speaker 1: do wear gloves. Not all the time, I'm not gonna lie.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes they get hot and annoying.

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Speaker 2: But I will.

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Speaker 3: I think I really want to ride a motorcycle with you,

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Speaker 3: And I'm feeling like maybe I'm going to make this

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Speaker 3: my New Year's resolution. Oh it is to come to

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Speaker 3: LA and ride with you at some point in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 2: Style, way, what are you doing for New Year's Eve?

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Speaker 1: I was out with a couple of girlfriends at a

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Speaker 1: members club in LA that does not allow photos, and

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Speaker 1: we were talking about what to do for New Year's Eve,

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Speaker 1: and the conversation was it ended around having a house

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Speaker 1: party at their house with a bunch of people. That

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Speaker 1: sounds what are you doing for New Year's Eve?

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Speaker 3: I'm definitely going to a party in Brooklyn and Dumbo.

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Speaker 3: But uh, I mean, I'm but normally I.

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Speaker 2: Go to Fish.

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Speaker 3: So at some point I'm gonna sneak away and go

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Speaker 3: to Madison Square Garden to see Fish like a devotee. No, no,

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Speaker 3: I go see Fish the band, and I'm not like

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Speaker 3: a total fish head, So I'm not following that like

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Speaker 3: my brothers follow the band year round and see like

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Speaker 3: dozens or more than dozens of shows every year. I'm

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Speaker 3: I just go to one every year. I go to

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Speaker 3: the New Year's Eve show. It's super fun. I love

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Speaker 3: the garden.

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Speaker 1: Awesome, and uh it's a good escape.

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Speaker 3: All right, Let's let's meet back here, same time, same place,

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Speaker 3: next week and kick off the year with a very

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Speaker 3: special guest who has a very special jag.

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Speaker 2: Me either.

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Speaker 1: I'm Matt Miller, I'm Hanna Elliott, and this is Bloomberg