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Speaker 1: Welcome into the new episode of Earning Their Strives. My

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Speaker 1: name is Danny Martinez. I'm back from Aruba, and I'm

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Speaker 1: happy to be here with my guys, Ian Smith and

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Speaker 1: Ethan Bodowski. Honestly, no longer intro today because this is

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Speaker 1: quite frankly, a franchise altering week. We don't know if

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Speaker 1: it's for better, we don't know if it's for worse,

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Speaker 1: but it's definitely something that a lot of us have

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Speaker 1: been anticipating and something that probably caught a lot of

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Speaker 1: us off guards. We're gonna have a good thirty to

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Speaker 1: forty minute conversation us on all the trades that happened

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Speaker 1: this week and how farm systems look and Ethan Ian,

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Speaker 1: how y'all doing.

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Speaker 2: It's going to be back, man, I'm doing good.

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Speaker 3: Crazy, crazy.

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Speaker 4: It's been a great week because ready talks in baseball.

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Speaker 4: I wasn't expecting to have this much trade conversation ready

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Speaker 4: to go, but this has been crazy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, man, do you know how difficult it is to

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Speaker 1: be on honeymoon and like know that you can't be

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Speaker 1: on your phone because if not, your wife is gonna

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Speaker 1: get on you, and she's she's a great sport. Like

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Speaker 1: if there was a trade that went down. She was like, honey,

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Speaker 1: go ahead, don't worry, We've done enough. But man, every

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Speaker 1: single dating like there was a rumor or something that

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Speaker 1: really caught us by off garden by surprise. So we're

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Speaker 1: just gonna jump into because, like I said, I want

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Speaker 1: to maximize the time that we have to talk about it.

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Speaker 1: We're going to start off with the trade that a

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Speaker 1: lot of individuals had a very quick and passionate reaction to.

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Speaker 1: I know that I was one of them. The Marlins

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Speaker 1: acquire shortstop Jazz Chisholm for Zach Gallant. Zach Gallon someone

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Speaker 1: that we've spoken about a lot on this podcast, someone that,

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Speaker 1: if we're gonna tap ourselves on the shoulder and give

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Speaker 1: ourselves some praise, we were speaking about him while individuals

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Speaker 1: just thought that he was a throw in for a

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna let Ian hit leadoff here. What do you

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Speaker 1: think about the Jazz Chisholm trade for Zach Gallen?

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Speaker 4: Oh Man, Well, when I first saw it, I'm gonna

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Speaker 4: be one of those people who made a completely instant

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Speaker 4: a shock to me, sing Zach Gallon getting traded one

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Speaker 4: be was crazy to me. Took me about three or

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Speaker 4: about it. But the Marlins made this trade out of

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Speaker 4: a strength and it's it was. It's a smart trade

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Speaker 4: if it pans out. Jazz Chisholm is an extremely electric player.

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Speaker 4: He's highly regarded across a lot of different websites that's

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Speaker 4: up top prospects. He brings an extremely powerful left handed

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Speaker 4: swing after out of a small body. But man, this

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Speaker 4: trade absolutely frightens me. If I'm gonna be frank, I

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Speaker 4: his own right. His big years, he's had extremely high

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Speaker 4: I mean, he gets a lot of hobby by as comps,

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Speaker 4: But I think this trade's going to take one or

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Speaker 4: two years to really see what we have in Jazz.

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Speaker 4: I don't think this is an instant reaction type of deal.

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Speaker 4: I again, victim be an instant reactor, but yeah, I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with you in there.

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Speaker 2: know for sure that you know I was the leader

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Speaker 2: on the trade Caleb Smith trade train. I think that

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Speaker 2: I think chishom is ranked like fifty eight on pipeline,

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Speaker 2: But we still have a lot of really good talent

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Speaker 2: The concept behind it is the right concept, and you know,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, as I got off of the boat.

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Speaker 1: One of the adventures we were doing in Aruba was

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Speaker 1: the moment that I first got Wi fi and you

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Speaker 1: Zach Gallen had been the outgoing player. I saw Marlin's

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Speaker 1: acchoir Chaz, I'm from the Diamondbacks, and you'll see that.

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Speaker 1: The first thing I tweeted was OMGGG. Because I couldn't

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Speaker 1: no idea who the outgoing players were at that time. Ethan,

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Speaker 1: you said that he was like fifty eight in pipeline.

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Speaker 1: Yet he's thirty one in Fangraphs, but in Baseball America

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Speaker 1: He's leading the miners again in shortstop home runs, which

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Speaker 6: And another thing, go ahead and sorry Denny.

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Speaker 4: But another thing that really stands out about the Marlins

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Speaker 4: acquiring Chisholm is where he's from, being from Nasau, Bahamas

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's he really is a shame that and

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Speaker 5: But it just sucks that people bring in the optics.

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Speaker 1: Like I understand, if Zach Gallan had gone through his

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Speaker 1: Do this is this is someone who still had prospects status,

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Speaker 1: single day over Zach Gallan, who was a quote unquote

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Speaker 1: But I want to say something real quick about Jazz.

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Speaker 1: Let's please stop focusing on the two four average. This

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Speaker 5: Short stuff.

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Speaker 1: So not a safe mood, very risky. It sucks to

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Speaker 3: First of all, the guy's name is Jazz.

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Speaker 5: Jazz.

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Speaker 2: Talk enough about how his name is Jazz. His name

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Speaker 2: to twenty seven slugging percentage, Like that means the dude's

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Speaker 2: absolutely raking. You just got to make a little more contact.

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Speaker 2: I texted you guys the other day, like, imagine if

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Speaker 2: Hesan has twenty five. You know, Look, imagine what his

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Speaker 2: I'm really excited about this guy. And again, his name

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Speaker 1: You don't get any better than that, all right, So

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Speaker 1: on to the trade that I think the tone is

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Speaker 5: It happened.

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Speaker 1: It seemed right at the four o'clock deadline or right

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Speaker 1: I would assume eventually down the line for the Fish,

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So, you know, as part of my Trade Caleb campaign,

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Speaker 3: Jumped off the page at me. He's a guy that

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Speaker 2: I know lou da Villa has taught, Davilla has talked

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Speaker 3: This guy's just a beast man. I mean, he's just

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Speaker 2: You know, he's just he's the exact kind of guy

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Speaker 2: this front office like learning on the fly and learning

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Speaker 2: guys know, I absolutely love. I mean, he just rakes

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Speaker 2: it took me like thirty minutes, forty five minutes whatever

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Speaker 2: who I know Dan's going to talk about He's been

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Speaker 2: my eyes. Just a tremendous trade. Work by the Marlins

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Speaker 2: And he jumps right to the top of the list

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, yeah, man, you're hitting it on the head.

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Speaker 4: I literally texted a buddy of mine saying, we got

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Speaker 4: It was a rough day, but the Marlins struck gold

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Speaker 4: You don't do that very often. You don't add to

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Speaker 4: or top ninety something percentile for fastball this year. I

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Speaker 4: think it's ninety seven point eight, I believe. But he's

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Speaker 4: got two pitches that are filthy, with a splitter and

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Speaker 4: a kurt and a slider that he can get guys

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Speaker 4: out with. And I really really I'll have an article

436
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Speaker 4: later this week on swings and misses, but I think

437
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Speaker 4: he's going to be the closer of the Marlins for

438
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Speaker 4: the next five years. I mean, he's got that kind

439
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Speaker 4: of stuff. I know how volatile relievers are, but this

440
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Speaker 4: kid is really good and he's just scratching the surface

441
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Speaker 4: on what kind of picture he can be.

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of people overlook Stannic because he's

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Speaker 1: not the sexy named prospect in this trade, but.

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Speaker 5: I'm right with first count.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you would think that people would have

446
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Speaker 1: an understanding of what his pedigree is. But it just

447
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Speaker 1: seems like Hesu Sanchez, and for the right reasons, I

448
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Speaker 1: would assume he gets all of the headlines. But I'm

449
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Speaker 1: excited to have Stanneck. I'm excited to read your article

450
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Speaker 1: as well. You and I are from the same page

451
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Speaker 1: with this. I think that if they don't flip him,

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Speaker 1: he is someone who will be a significant, significant portion

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Speaker 1: of a competitive team, whenever that may be on Hessu Sanchez.

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Speaker 5: When I wrote the series of the JT.

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Speaker 1: Realmudo rumors are going around, and we wrote a series

456
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Speaker 1: of who the candidates might be from each team that

457
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Speaker 1: were rumored to be in the market for him, you know,

458
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Speaker 1: Hesu Sanchez was the second guy that I highlighted from

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Speaker 1: the race system and I believe if we go back

460
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Speaker 1: to fits stripes, I finished that paragraph with but it's

461
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Speaker 1: not happening now. I said that with JT. Realmudo and

462
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Speaker 1: they just got them, or they just got him for

463
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Speaker 1: Trevor Richards and Nick Anderson.

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Speaker 5: That's ridiculous.

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Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 1: It's also scary because the Rays are a very intelligent team,

467
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Speaker 1: so it makes me think of what they know that

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Speaker 1: we might not know. But it's still here. He's still

469
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Speaker 1: a consensus top elite prospect for a reason.

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Speaker 5: You know, you mentioned Jordan and Alva.

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Speaker 1: If you actually look back at Christian Yelich twenty eleven,

472
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Speaker 1: his numbers are incredibly similar to Hesusancha's pedigree. You know,

473
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Speaker 1: in a weird fashion. You probably wouldn't mock those two

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Speaker 1: players together. But they both have advanced hit tools. They

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Speaker 1: both have somewhat above average power. Now, of course I'm

476
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Speaker 1: not talking about MVP Yelich. I'm talking about pre trade Yelich.

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Speaker 1: But go look at those numbers. If you're at home

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Speaker 1: twenty eleven Christian Yelich and then Hissu Sanche's pedigree over

479
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Speaker 1: the last few years, you'll be surprised with how similar

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Speaker 1: of a player they are. I want to ask Ethan

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Speaker 1: this question real quickly, because Hissu Sanchez is likely the

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Speaker 1: guy who gets the first call up.

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Speaker 5: He's already at Triple A. Do you agree with that?

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Speaker 5: Do you think that he's someone that we could see

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Speaker 5: later this year or next year early? What do you think?

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Speaker 2: It all depends on how he gets going in New Orleans.

487
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Speaker 2: Because he played eighteen games in Triple A in the

488
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Speaker 2: race system and he really kind of underwhelmed. His ops

489
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Speaker 2: was only five ninety nine. He's hit in two six

490
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Speaker 2: any kind of kate a lot? Yeah, he really did

491
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Speaker 2: kate a lot. So yeah, it all depends on how

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Speaker 2: he plays over the next month in triple A. Uh,

493
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Speaker 2: you know, he's a he's a September candidate. But I

494
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Speaker 2: think the only way it really happens is if he

495
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Speaker 2: gets hot, like really really scorching hot in this month

496
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Speaker 2: of August and they have no other choice but to

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Speaker 2: call him up. But I think he could be like

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Speaker 2: one of those early season call ups that we see

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Speaker 2: next year. That's probably more likely, like Cook hits with

500
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Speaker 2: the team in spring training, see how he does and

501
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Speaker 2: if he raced in spring training, maybe give him a call,

502
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Speaker 2: or you know, let him go down to New Orleans

503
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Speaker 2: for a while and rake and uh and then and

504
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Speaker 2: then get the call up. But yeah, I think within

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Speaker 2: the next twelve months he'll probably be up in Miami.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, let me get your thoughts on that.

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Speaker 1: And actually you could add on Jazz as well, because

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Speaker 1: because I'm sure that that's something our listeners are interested in.

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Speaker 4: Oh, call ups on these guys, I believe we're gonna

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Speaker 4: see Iszeus Sanchez. I would I would think in after

511
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Speaker 4: the deadline next year and Jazz. As much as I've

512
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Speaker 4: heard things about Jazz starting maybe getting a call out

513
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Speaker 4: at the end of next year, it would really surprise me.

514
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Speaker 4: I feel like this team, he's a young kid. This

515
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Speaker 4: team's not gonna rush him. I don't believe he makes

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Speaker 4: the major leagues right now. They have Mickey signed through

517
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Speaker 4: twenty twenty. And if I don't believe they're gonna make

518
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Speaker 4: call this kid up to the majors with a thirty

519
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Speaker 4: plus K percentage, I just don't.

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Speaker 6: I don't see it happening.

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Speaker 4: I believe twenty twenty one, first few months we're gonna

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Speaker 4: see Jazz and the majors. But as soon as he

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Speaker 4: hits the major leagues, I think he's gonna hold onto

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Speaker 4: the shortstop position for a long time. So it's just

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Speaker 4: gonna take time with him. So twenty twenty one, yes

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Speaker 4: with him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with that because I think he's gonna

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Speaker 2: have to repeat double A. You know, Monte was a

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Speaker 2: candidate to repeat Double A, but he hit two forty

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Speaker 2: in Double A. He didn't hit two hundred, So, like

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Speaker 2: you know, just like Jesus, just like Zeu's like un

532
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Speaker 2: less sisom gets really really hot and just scorches the

533
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Speaker 2: month of August, which he got off to a really

534
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Speaker 2: good start last night, going through for four with a

535
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Speaker 2: home run and what he came up like a triple

536
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Speaker 2: side of the cycle or something. So yeah, unless he

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Speaker 2: gets really really scorching, like yeah, he's gonna have to

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Speaker 2: repeat double A and based off that, he probably won't

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Speaker 2: be up next year.

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Speaker 4: A big A guy. I'm going to compare Jazz to that.

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Speaker 4: I hope to see in development this year or next

542
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Speaker 4: year will be Harrah in Carnarassion. This year he's dropped

543
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Speaker 4: his CA percentage almost ten percent since last year and

544
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Speaker 4: in playing really well. If we can see that kind

545
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Speaker 4: of production and development from Jazz, it's gonna be It

546
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Speaker 4: could be a different story come next season if he's

547
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Speaker 4: be striking out in twenty six twenty seven percent like this.

548
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Speaker 4: So I'm not worried about I'm not too worried about

549
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Speaker 4: the average. Like like Danny was talking about earlier, he

550
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Speaker 4: just got these excuse me, electric tools that he can use,

551
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Speaker 4: and if he just learns how to put the bat

552
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Speaker 4: on the ball a little bit more, he could be

553
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Speaker 4: real exciting so I think that's the biggest thing for

554
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Speaker 4: this kid, is just working on that strike soon recognition.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just real quick.

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Speaker 2: I love that comp about Gerar, and I just want

557
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Speaker 2: to shout out Girar. He got off to a really

558
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Speaker 2: tough start in Jupiter, but now he's got the average

559
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Speaker 2: up of two fifty. He's slug in over three sixty. Uh.

560
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Speaker 2: And his k rate is still pretty low. I mean

561
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Speaker 2: it was thirty nine percent. It was thirty percent in

562
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Speaker 2: low A last year, thirty nine percent in sixteen games

563
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Speaker 2: in A, and now he's got it down to twenty

564
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Speaker 2: six point two percent in high A. So yeah, I

565
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Speaker 2: would love to see that kind of dip. It can

566
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Speaker 2: happen that fast in one year. We've seen it happen before. Uh,

567
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Speaker 2: And I love I would I think a comparison like

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Speaker 2: that to Gerar is pretty accurate and pretty good.

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Speaker 1: All right, So we have ten minutes left. I want

570
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Speaker 1: to get to a trait that I personally really like.

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Speaker 1: It's the one that no one talks about because when

572
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Speaker 1: you bring Jazz and his SUICI into your prospect system,

573
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Speaker 1: you probably aren't going to talk that much about Lewin Diaz.

574
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Speaker 1: But I want to talk about him because Number one,

575
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Speaker 1: He's hit back to back home is the last two days,

576
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Speaker 1: which is exciting just to talk about it.

577
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Speaker 5: And if you could get.

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Speaker 1: Tonight, yeah, yeah, yeah, And he went over the scoreboard,

579
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Speaker 1: which is just impressive. I'm not even sure if that

580
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,679
Speaker 1: ball has landed, but let's talk about it. He's the

581
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Speaker 1: first trade. It's the first trade that happened in the

582
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Speaker 1: in the deadline. Happened a few days prior to the deadline.

583
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Speaker 1: They flipped an expiring contract and a great leader someone

584
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Speaker 1: I'd love for them to even come back, possibly and

585
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Speaker 1: get this offseason in Sergio Romo and a young arm

586
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Speaker 1: that we also speak very highly of in Chris Vallomont

587
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Speaker 1: for a lefty, power slugging first baseman who has a

588
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Speaker 1: very good glove over at first Laywin Diaz. I loved

589
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Speaker 1: this trade from the moment it happened because, number one,

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Speaker 1: it was creative as the Marlins have ever been. They

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Speaker 1: they weren't gonna get a Diaz type prospect for just

592
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Speaker 1: Sergio Romo. They had to give a little bit more.

593
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Speaker 1: And it's tough to see Chris leave, but the ability

594
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Speaker 1: to flip from strength and get a strong, power hitting

595
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Speaker 1: first baseman who's having a great year after a down

596
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Speaker 1: year last year into your system is incredibly impressive. So

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna let Ian talk about this first. I loved it.

598
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Speaker 1: I know that there's risk there with Chris. I love

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Speaker 1: the creativity. What did you think of this trade when

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Speaker 1: you first learned about it.

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Speaker 4: I thought it was a good trade for both sides.

602
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 4: I think this was a great idea of Minnesota to

603
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 4: maximize Leyman's potential right now after his down year last year.

604
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Speaker 4: He was in the Rule five Drash Draft last year,

605
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Speaker 4: went unclaimed and came out in twenty nineteen and looked

606
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Speaker 4: like a completely different player again. The Marlins gave up

607
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Speaker 4: a good piece in Chris Valley wont that could turn

608
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Speaker 4: into maybe a Zach Allen down the line. He's a

609
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 4: big guy who could be an innings eater and maybe

610
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Speaker 4: a three or four in the future. But I think

611
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Speaker 4: it's a great deal for Miami. Leywan Dias is instantly

612
00:29:56,360 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 4: the best first base prospect in the whole system. He's

613
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Speaker 4: got immense power Ethan. We just saw him a few

614
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Speaker 4: months ago at the floor the State League All Star Game.

615
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Speaker 4: He's a massive, massive kid. He can play defense at

616
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Speaker 4: first base. He's it's a lot better than people say

617
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Speaker 4: it is. He plays well for his Yeah, yeah he

618
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Speaker 4: got and he got called up either that weekend after

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Speaker 4: or yeah it was the last last year. Yeah, so

620
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Speaker 4: it's it's exciting to see this kid in our system,

621
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Speaker 4: in the Miami system now. I think last year he

622
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Speaker 4: just kind of checked out and the development really just

623
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Speaker 4: took a huge dip. I'm looking at his numbers right

624
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Speaker 4: now and I cannot even figure out what happened last year.

625
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 4: Every other year isn't a completely different story from this kid.

626
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Speaker 4: I think he just needs to be competitive and really

627
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Speaker 4: just ready to work. And he's in the system in

628
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Speaker 4: Jacksonville now with a bunch of guys that are really

629
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Speaker 4: excited to be there, and I think he's got a

630
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Speaker 4: chance to really make some waves in this marvelin system

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Speaker 4: going forward.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I love this deal.

633
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Speaker 2: I mean I texted you guys when I heard that

634
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 2: we got Lowin, and I was like freaking out, man,

635
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 2: you know, I was like, we got Lowin. But yeah,

636
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 2: then I heard that we traded Valamont. I think Ian

637
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 2: was the one that told me, uh, and yeah, I

638
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 2: was definitely you know, it was another punch in the

639
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 2: face a bit, because he is one of our guys.

640
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Speaker 2: We've been talking about him all year. I know how

641
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 2: much you loved him, Ian, But yeah, like you said, Danny,

642
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 2: like this was a very very creative trade by the Marlins,

643
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 2: and this was a good work deal. Like you know,

644
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 2: I knew we were gonna trade Romo, but I was like,

645
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 2: why can't we really get for this guy? So yeah,

646
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Speaker 2: we have expandable pitching. We talked about it with Gallon.

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Speaker 2: Our pitching is expandable, and Vallamont was kind of the

648
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 2: first guy on the outside, you know what I mean.

649
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 2: And that was clear because he was the first guy

650
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 2: that the Marlins traded, and they used his value to

651
00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 2: just kind of open it up and get a really

652
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 2: good prospect in lu and Diaz who's at the plate

653
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 2: right now in Jacksonville. But I mean, these guys number.

654
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 2: This guy's numbers are incredible. When you look at it.

655
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 2: They kind of remind me. We were talking about Hobby

656
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 2: with Chisholm earlier. They kind of remind me of Hobby's numbers.

657
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 2: Doesn't really take a ton of walks. His his OBP

658
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 2: overall is not even fifty points higher than his average,

659
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 2: but he slugs a ton. I mean his slash line

660
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 2: this year is really impressive. He's hit this is across

661
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 2: High A and Double A two eighty eight, three thirty five,

662
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 2: forty five. In Double A with Minnesota in thirty three

663
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 2: games he was hitting three h two with a five

664
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 2: eighty seven slugging percentage and a nine to twenty eight ops.

665
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 2: I know that's a lot of numbers I threw at

666
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 2: you there, but yeah, these guys numbers are really impressive

667
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 2: this year, and it's really awesome to see like kind

668
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 2: of like what happened with Monte, Like Monte just had

669
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 2: a down year that just kind of seemed like an outlier,

670
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 2: and Lewin kind of had a down year that seemed

671
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 2: like an outlier last year, and he's come back in

672
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 2: absolutely torn the cover off the ball. So yeah, and

673
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 2: like you said, I think it was you Ian that

674
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 2: said that he slot saying right away as the best

675
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 2: first base prospect in this system. We talked all year

676
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,719
Speaker 2: about how first base was a huge need in this system.

677
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 2: I think the only thing we have left now that

678
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 2: we got Jazz his third base, and that could really,

679
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 2: you know, realistically be filled by Brian Anderson. He's you know,

680
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 2: kind of lessened my doubts this year about the third

681
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 2: base position, but we filled that first base spot. That

682
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 2: first base was a caping hole in the system. Evan

683
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 2: Edwards seems really nice, but it just wasn't that elite prospect,

684
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 2: that really really good prospect, really solid at first base.

685
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 2: And now we got that with Lewin. I mean, these

686
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 2: guys numbers are incredible. He's really having a great year.

687
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 2: And yeah, I was just so excited just the power

688
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 2: that's coming into the system. Like as fun as.

689
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 3: Guys that hit three ten or whatever are.

690
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 2: Like, there's nothing better than a guy that just has

691
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 2: a slugging percentage up over five fifty. I mean, they're

692
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 2: just so exciting to watch because every night they're getting

693
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 2: a double or triple or home run, you know what

694
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 2: I mean.

695
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 3: So I love this trade.

696
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 2: I love the creativity behind it, and I really love

697
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 2: the work the Marlins front office has done over the

698
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 2: last three days.

699
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you mentioned that he was gonna be a

700
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,839
Speaker 1: Rule five or he was a Rule five candidate. When

701
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 1: that draft came out, I sent out a tweet. I

702
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 1: want that guy on the Marlins. I wanted him a

703
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 1: year ago. So when this came across, I mean I

704
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 1: was thrilled because I really do believe that there are

705
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 1: clear outliers in a minor league's development and minor league

706
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 1: prospects development. We saw it with Easau and Diaz. We

707
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 1: saw it Monte Harris, and I think Ethan you made

708
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 1: this point, maybe that's what we're seeing with Chisholm, and

709
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 1: we definitely see it with Lewin Diaz. When you look

710
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 1: across his numbers, he has been an absolute stud, a

711
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 1: stud and there's nothing that you look at that's like, wow,

712
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 1: that's a real red flag indicator except one entire year,

713
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 1: which is twenty eighteen, and that's just it's just founding.

714
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 6: It is.

715
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 1: There's a lot of conversation about, you know, his weight,

716
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 1: his body conditioning. That year they changed up things with

717
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 1: him in Minnesota and apparently it didn't work. But whatever

718
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 1: again was reset this year has worked. I love the trade.

719
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 1: You know, if I'm fifty to fifty about the Zach

720
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 1: Gallen and Jazz trade, I am like ninety ten on

721
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 1: this trade, and I'm one hundred zero on the Hissu

722
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 1: Sanchez trade. It was a phenomenal in my opinion, deadline

723
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 1: absolute risk. Do not pretend that there isn't there's absolutely

724
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: risk with some of these deals.

725
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:37,280
Speaker 5: But beautiful.

726
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,240
Speaker 1: And I'll say this, if you're a Marlins fan listening,

727
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 1: it's no longer just Danny Ethan and Ian that are

728
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 1: telling you this. It's no longer just fist stripes that

729
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 1: are telling you this. National sites are starting to see it.

730
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,760
Speaker 1: Fangrafts ranked them, what was it, fourth, the farm systems

731
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 1: ranked fourth by fangrafs. Baseball America still has them at

732
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 1: ten before the deadline.

733
00:35:58,640 --> 00:35:59,320
Speaker 5: It's beautiful.

734
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,399
Speaker 2: And I saw Pipeline today release like they're like points thing.

735
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 2: I don't know how that works, but I guess it's

736
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 2: just kind of like a way to judge like the

737
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,760
Speaker 2: top systems. And we were fifth on Pipeline and they

738
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,720
Speaker 2: barely threw any son, so they're not giving us any

739
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 2: benefit of the doubt with our system, you know what

740
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 2: I mean. Like it seemed like like they put on

741
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:21,840
Speaker 2: at like eighty six or something like. It seemed like

742
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 2: kind of like a petty throw into me. But yeah,

743
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 2: they haven't given us any credit all year, and they

744
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 2: ranked us fifth, and now we've got six top one

745
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 2: hundred prospects. I mean, this is just this is just

746
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,720
Speaker 2: really legit, man, And we've got three more guys knocking

747
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 2: on the door. Uh Meisner's a possibility. Devers is a

748
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 2: possibility if he comes back and has another great year

749
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 2: next year. Rogers right, that's the three guys that are

750
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 2: knocking on the door right now. The top one hundred

751
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 2: at this moment are Edward Cabrera, Braxing, Garrett, and Trevor Rodgers.

752
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 2: There's a real possibility that if these guys all finish

753
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,800
Speaker 2: out the year strong with Eddie and double A, Braxing,

754
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 2: Rogers and Hia, that the Marlins could have nine top

755
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 2: one hundred guys by whenever they do their end of

756
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 2: season reset. That's sorry, Lolo, closed your ears. That's fucking crazy, man,

757
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 2: based on what happened where we were at the beginning

758
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 2: of the year, that's insane. You couldn't have convinced me

759
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 2: in the slightest that the Marlins would have nine top

760
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,360
Speaker 2: one hundred prospects by the end of the season.

761
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 3: Possibly, you couldn't have convinced me that we would have

762
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 3: six by the deadline. It's insane.

763
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 2: And as much as we knock my kill and we

764
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 2: make fun of him, and we made fun of him

765
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 2: during the Lorier regime, this guy has put in work

766
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 2: since this new regime took over, and he's made some

767
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 2: really really nice deals. He's gotten creative where he had to.

768
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,760
Speaker 2: And yeah, we might give him some plaque for trading

769
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 2: a guy like Gallon or Vallomont, but when you really

770
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 2: break it down, it makes a lot of sense. And

771
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 2: look at the power we have in the system now.

772
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:57,919
Speaker 2: Our system was almost completely devoid of bats and now

773
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 2: there are many guys in the outfield. I mean, so

774
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 2: it's really really impressive what the Marlins have done over

775
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 2: the last couple months, what they've done over the last

776
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 2: week or so, and uh, yeah, it's exciting. Man, six

777
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 2: top one hundred prospects. You cannot have convinced me that

778
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 2: would happen. You could not have convinced me, But it

779
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 2: would have ju Sanchez in the system.

780
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 1: Two points that you hit that I really want to

781
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 1: quickly hit and them I pass it over to En

782
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 1: and will wrap it up. You hit on the pitching

783
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: and you hit on the power first. You know, losing

784
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:28,240
Speaker 1: Gallon and Vallamont does not turn this pitching into a weakness. Okay,

785
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 1: when you're talking about six THO Sanchez and Network CARVERA

786
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 1: Bracks and Garrett and Trevor Rodgers, and on and on

787
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 1: and on and on. It doesn't suddenly turn into a weakness.

788
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,479
Speaker 1: It definitely balances out the system a little bit more.

789
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 1: But I would still say that I'm confident and comfortable

790
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 1: and confident. That's the word I'm looking for in the

791
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:48,360
Speaker 1: pitching within this system. The power the Marlins top six

792
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:52,800
Speaker 1: home run leaders in the minor league system, Isan Diaz,

793
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 1: Lewin Diaz, Jaschism Lewis Brinston hit I did in Carnascio

794
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 1: and his Susanche. So you just added three of your

795
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 1: top six fifty per of your top six home run

796
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 1: leaders in your organization, at least from the minor league.

797
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 5: Level in the last week.

798
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 1: They saw a weakness, they saw something they had to attack.

799
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,319
Speaker 1: They attacked it, and that's why the Marlins now have

800
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 1: an elite farm system.

801
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 5: Ian, what are your thoughts?

802
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm just I'm just so excited to hear that.

803
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,240
Speaker 4: I mean, sorry, I got I was reading some numbers

804
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 4: hearing that, but I just want to I just want

805
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 4: to fall up on a few things in these top

806
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 4: one hundred numbers. I think by opening day next year

807
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,879
Speaker 4: this team could have ten. I think we're I think

808
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 4: we're still selling Connor Scott's short I think if he

809
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 4: finishes this year strong, he's still going to be nineteen

810
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 4: years old. I think prospect sites will will look at

811
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:41,240
Speaker 4: this kid if he finishes this year strong in Jupiter.

812
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 6: He's got the talent to do it.

813
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 4: And Cameron Meisner, you guys talking about my being top

814
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 4: one hundred big, He's already working on a five game

815
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 4: hit streak already for Clinton right now, he's tearing the

816
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 4: cover off the ball. I think he hit a three

817
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:56,959
Speaker 4: run home er last night and then that was Yeah,

818
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,800
Speaker 4: he's that was That was great much.

819
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 6: Little somber On.

820
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:05,320
Speaker 4: A few of our pictures, guys like Trevor Rodgers, Bax

821
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 4: and Garrett six Sanchez, we could be seeing them getting

822
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:09,439
Speaker 4: shut down here in the next few weeks.

823
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 6: I talked about a little bit the other week.

824
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 4: These guys were already over their endings limits and these

825
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:15,919
Speaker 4: were some guys that we could see getting shut down.

826
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 4: As I say that, we have guys like Josh Robertson

827
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 4: and Clinton who could be seeing seeing a chance in

828
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 4: Jupiter before the end of the year. And that's an

829
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,839
Speaker 4: exciting prospect that nobody talks about, but touches ninety nine

830
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 4: on the gun. He's got a nasty breaking ball. Just

831
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 4: wanted to get a little shout out there, Robert talking

832
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 4: at the end here, But yeah, I'm just gonna let

833
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 4: Danny finishes out for you guys. I'm just glad to

834
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:38,760
Speaker 4: talk about prospects again.

835
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 2: One thing. One thing. You're talking about guys that are

836
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,880
Speaker 2: flying under the radar. Let's talk about just for a second,

837
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 2: Luis Pelasios, bro this absolutely turn into the best pitching

838
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 2: you know, this is a hot take, and it's ahead

839
00:40:55,680 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 2: and obviously very early. If this dude continues on, he

840
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 2: could turn in to the best pitching prospect the Marlins

841
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 2: have in the system. Absolutely. Dude's never had an FIP

842
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 2: over two point eighty six. All he does is kind

843
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 2: of get people out and he doesn't really let up

844
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 2: a ton of runs and he doesn't walk anybody either.

845
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,919
Speaker 2: I think I saw he has thirty strikeouts and one

846
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 2: walk this year in the GCL. I would love to

847
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:22,799
Speaker 2: see this guy get a few innings at the end

848
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 2: of the year and either Batavia and Clinton, just to

849
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 2: see kind of see where he's at, maybe like a

850
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 2: heat check on him. Worst case scenario, he's only nineteen

851
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 2: years old. He started in the GCL again. Next year

852
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 2: he starts pitching well and dealing, and then you make

853
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 2: the jump to patavior Clinton. This guy's I'm not ready

854
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 2: to say he's one hundred percent legiti and I'm one

855
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 2: hundred percent sold on him, but keep an eye out

856
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 2: on him, and keep an eye out on Envan Fitterer,

857
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 2: our fifth round pick from this past year who's just

858
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,359
Speaker 2: been dealing in the GCL so far. Great signing by

859
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 2: the Marlins, was not expected to sign, great signing, and

860
00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 2: he's dealing, doesn't let up a ton of runs, and yeah, man,

861
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 2: I mean the pitching just continues on down the line.

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Speaker 2: Remy Reid's having a great year, Jackson Rose is having

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Speaker 2: a really nice year. And these are guys we've never

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Speaker 2: even heard about. So yeah, man, it's awesome.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think if there's one thing we can start talking

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Speaker 1: about with player development here in the Marlins is that

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Speaker 1: if the national perspective doesn't know about these players yet,

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Speaker 1: they're going to learn about them sooner or later. Because

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Speaker 1: when you're talking about Pelacio's and fitter and some of

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Speaker 1: the other names that you mentioned, you know, we can't

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Speaker 1: say that they're guarantees just like you said, but I

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Speaker 1: think it's a great call to bring them up now,

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Speaker 1: because these really are players that we can see developing

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Speaker 1: into the later on Rogers and Garretts that we now know. Always,

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