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Speaker 2: Good morning, afternoon everyone. Every one is having a start

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Speaker 2: to their day. My name is Isaiah Jones. I work

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Speaker 2: at UTA and our New York office side and then

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Speaker 2: our comedy and live touring group. I have the pleasure

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Speaker 2: today to introduce to Nicole Linda, one of our colleagues

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Speaker 2: here at UTA. I think some of you probably are

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Speaker 2: probably very familiar with her amazing success. But for those

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Speaker 2: of you who are not going to run through a

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Speaker 2: couple of things and then click kick it over to

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Speaker 2: Cliff to introduce the eyl Nicole is a PRIG graduate

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Speaker 2: tackled Wall Street as a financial analyst and obtain both

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Speaker 2: our Series seven and Series sixty three certifications. In fifty

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Speaker 2: Nicole made one of the biggest touchdowns of her career,

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Speaker 2: thus far becoming the first female agent to represent top

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Speaker 2: NFL agency Players REP. Twenty seventeen, Players Rep was acquired

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Speaker 2: by Young Money APAA Sports Agency, owned by world renow

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Speaker 2: rapper Lil Wayne. I'm sure we all no. In twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty one, Nicole elevated her career and joined the team

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Speaker 2: that Clutch Sports Group as their new President of Football Operations.

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Speaker 2: Nicole's incredible business avvy and strong will to succeed as

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Speaker 2: letter to become one of the youngest female sports agents

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Speaker 2: in the industry, signing her first client at only twenty six.

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Speaker 2: Her extensive client list includes NFL players with the Denver Broncos,

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Speaker 2: Oakland Raiders, Washington Commanders, and that's being nominated soft ball

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Speaker 2: star and a ballerina from the famous American Ballet Theater.

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Speaker 2: We are extremely excited to have her here with us

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Speaker 2: and I'm gonna pick it over to Cliff.

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Speaker 3: Hello, Hello, Hello, everyone. Happy Tuesday to everybody. So I'm

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Speaker 3: more than honored to introduce these these two illustrious gentlemen,

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Speaker 3: the hosts of the the Infamous and the Illustrious Earned

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Speaker 3: Your Leisure podcast. These fellas have two of the top

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Speaker 3: ten finance and business podcasts out with Earn Your Leisure

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Speaker 3: and Market Mondays. They also have like their new show

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Speaker 3: Assets of Reliabilities that came out, Please go check that out.

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Speaker 3: They're also proud members of the Beer Gang as you

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Speaker 3: all see.

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Speaker 4: Okay, okay. They are probably.

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Speaker 3: One of the most exciting clients that we have to

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Speaker 3: date on the bleeding edge of culture, finance, business and sports.

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Speaker 3: So we're extremely excited to introduce the men, the myth

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Speaker 3: and the Legends, Troy Millings and Rashad Balah.

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Speaker 4: Thank you for having us yl, Cliff.

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Speaker 5: We appreciate that, appreciate that much.

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Speaker 3: Love, So from here I'm gonna go ahead and let

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Speaker 3: you guys take it over and allow you all to

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Speaker 6: Appreciate it for sure. I appreciate it, Isaiah Man.

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Speaker 7: I appreciate you getting the Washington team right man, that's

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Speaker 7: my team.

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Speaker 6: So appreciate you.

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Speaker 4: Nicole. First and foremost is honor.

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Speaker 8: Thank you. I'm excited to be here. How's it going?

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Speaker 4: Good? Good? You know, it's so crazy.

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Speaker 5: We have posted you on our platform at the beginning,

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Speaker 8: Thank you. I'm excited to be here.

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Speaker 8: So I, you know, I always knew that I wanted

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Speaker 8: it was, you know, really quick. In order to be

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Speaker 7: Okay, So I meant most people, I mean, especially for

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Speaker 7: my generation, when we thought agents, you know, people we

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Speaker 6: Right, But what is the actual role of an agent?

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Speaker 7: Because like most people think like that's the person that

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Speaker 8: So the actual role my job description is that I

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Speaker 8: be what the job description reads, but it's really me

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Speaker 8: I'm a travel agent, I'm a friend, a mentor. You know,

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Speaker 8: it could be anything from planning a vacation for an athlete,

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Speaker 5: Yes, great guy, and we know a few are a

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Speaker 5: of players in the league actually, So what's interesting about

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Speaker 5: So how do you feel about that players representing themselves

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Speaker 5: and you do you think that that is a trend

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Speaker 8: So kind of to your point about contracts being lockstep,

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Speaker 8: But that's just me. You know, some people like people

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Speaker 7: So so we're in a Black History month, and when

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Speaker 7: It's specifically black female agents.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean it's not easy. It's definitely gotten to

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Speaker 8: early on it was really tough. You know. I think

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Speaker 8: I go into a player's room and I'm talking to dad,

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Speaker 8: you know, charging me up. The other aspect of it.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, So what led you to the process of choosing

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Speaker 8: I mean they were the only ones that answered the phone.

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Speaker 8: And he said, I get this call twice a week.

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Speaker 8: Why are you different? He's like, what makes you stand out.

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Speaker 8: Why would I give you a shot? I got one

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Speaker 6: You know who you never know who you know.

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Speaker 5: It's actually, you know, you bring up a very valid point,

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Speaker 4: But if you can actually add value to a person, and.

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Speaker 5: It's like like how you introduced him to somebody that

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Speaker 5: because you guys said I know that. You know a

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Speaker 5: Like talk about how it's important to add value first

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Speaker 8: I one hundred percent agree. I wrote a book and

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Speaker 8: Let me organize your emails. You know, I noticed that

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you said that when you made the phone call.

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Speaker 8: I never have a day off. My phone is always buzzing.

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Speaker 8: help change the trajectory for women. He did not say, Nicole,

437
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Speaker 8: you were the smartest person I've ever met. You work

438
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Speaker 8: harder than everybody else. I can't take that credit. Like

439
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Speaker 8: a lot of it was just favor. Yes, I work

440
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Speaker 8: very hard and I think I'm smart, but there's that

441
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Speaker 8: aspect and so that's tough. I can't teach that part,

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Speaker 8: you know, absolutely.

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Speaker 5: You said so you said something about one hundred thousand

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Speaker 5: just to even sign an athlete.

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Speaker 4: Can you talk about that? Can you go into like

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Speaker 4: what you actually mean by that?

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Speaker 8: Of course, so you sign a player in January, that's

448
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Speaker 8: when their season is over and they can eligible, you know,

449
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Speaker 8: legally sign with you. From January to March. First, they

450
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Speaker 8: trained for the Combine. The combine is a place where

451
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Speaker 8: they go and they test, see who runs the fastest,

452
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Speaker 8: who jumps the highest, all of that. During those eight

453
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Speaker 8: weeks before the combine, they've got to prepare, and so

454
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Speaker 8: you send your guy to a training facility to prepare

455
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Speaker 8: to run fast and jump high. And those training facilities,

456
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Speaker 8: you got to pay for the facility. You got to

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Speaker 8: pay for their rental car for eight weeks, you got

458
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Speaker 8: to pay for their food, chef nutrition, and you got

459
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Speaker 8: to give them some spending money to live on. Depending

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Speaker 8: on the player, you're not spending less than i'd say

461
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Speaker 8: now probably thirty five k, like seventh round pick, still

462
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Speaker 8: around thirty five K. And then the stipend is bigger

463
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Speaker 8: depending on the higher rank of the player. So you

464
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Speaker 8: could end up spending one hundred thousand dollars on a

465
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Speaker 8: client and if they don't make it or they go

466
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Speaker 8: lower in the draft. You know, this is not alone.

467
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Speaker 8: This is you just saying I'm investing in you and

468
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Speaker 8: then hopefully you make it back.

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Speaker 1: You may.

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Speaker 4: I used to go to IMG Academy.

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Speaker 5: So when I was at IMG, I was I was

472
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Speaker 5: in high school, but all of the NFL guys is

473
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Speaker 5: coming to actually train, So like Byron left Ridge and

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Speaker 5: Eli Manning and all of these guys were down there,

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Speaker 5: and it was just it was cool to see, like,

476
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Speaker 5: you know, the NFL they were training going to the

477
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Speaker 5: combine at that point in time, so I got to

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Speaker 5: see firsthand what you're actually explaining. But then also talk

479
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Speaker 5: about what if somebody decides to go with somebody else?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, how how's that?

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Speaker 5: Like they can there's nothing to stop them from erners?

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Speaker 8: Changing your mind the last minute right m happens all

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Speaker 8: the time, or changing their mind when they get into

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Speaker 8: their career after you spend all this money. Three hundred

532
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Speaker 8: nfl agents per year switch agents three hundred. That's just

533
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Speaker 8: a statistic. There's not a lot of littlety in our business.

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Speaker 8: That's the other part makes it really difficult. So every

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Speaker 8: year three hundred are changing their agents. And I've gotten

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Speaker 8: the benefit of that because I've have a lot of

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Speaker 8: veteran guys that have switched over to me that maybe

538
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Speaker 8: went to bigger agents and didn't get the individual attention.

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Speaker 8: But you know, you put all the money and you

540
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Speaker 8: put all the time, like you said, and then you

541
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Speaker 8: could lose out on the player at any point in

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Speaker 8: their career, right before they're up for their big second

543
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Speaker 8: contract that you work so hard for, right before they're

544
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Speaker 8: getting drafted, right after the draft. Yeah, I mean it's

545
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Speaker 8: emotionally taxing, and your life, your mortgage getting paid, your

546
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Speaker 8: car note getting paid, is contingent on how a twenty

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Speaker 8: two year old feels about you that day when they

548
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Speaker 8: wake up. Do you know the level of anxiety that

549
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Speaker 8: you have. But women out there, if you've ever been ghosted, geez,

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Speaker 8: that is nothing compared to you.

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Speaker 6: Oh no, not after Valencie, as they know, I know,

552
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Speaker 6: let me, let me, let me.

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Speaker 8: Ghost fruits all the time. It's like you're recruiting kid

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Speaker 8: for two years and then all Suddens have takes them

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Speaker 8: back and it's like what happened? You know? So the

556
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Speaker 8: story of my life is getting ghosted.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, so you said you get players in January. Obviously

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Speaker 7: that's after the college season ends. But I'm wondering now,

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Speaker 7: with the NIL rules that are in place, like how

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Speaker 7: that affects your business, right? Because now, I mean, you

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Speaker 7: got kids, and we spend some time this weekend with

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Speaker 7: some of the guys that you know play for some

563
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Speaker 7: of the southern California teams that are making six figures,

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Speaker 7: and it's like, all right, well this is different now,

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Speaker 7: so what's that? What has NIL done for your profession?

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Speaker 8: The hard part with NIL is that you know, players

567
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Speaker 8: can sign as freshmen, and so I think for us

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Speaker 8: it's it's as agents generally. I think we're all trying

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Speaker 8: to decide do we want to get heavy in the business.

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Speaker 8: Do we want to stand back? You know, the benefit

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Speaker 8: of getting in is that maybe you build this relationship

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Speaker 8: with this kid and then you get them for the draft.

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Speaker 8: But the likelihood of that happening is slim. It's already

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Speaker 8: hard to keep clients as it is, you know, hearing

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Speaker 8: that statistic of three hundred guys switch in a ear,

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Speaker 8: Signing a guy at eighteen as a freshman and making

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Speaker 8: sure you've kept him happy for four years before the draft.

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Speaker 8: It's it's dangerous. You know, I recruit a kid for

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Speaker 8: six months and I'm in too long. You know, I

580
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Speaker 8: came in too early. Now the new shiny toy comes

581
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Speaker 8: and I lose four years. I mean that's tough. So

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Speaker 8: but but there are some guys that are loyal and

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Speaker 8: if you get in early and then they become the

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Speaker 8: number one pick, you're happy you did. So it's really

585
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Speaker 8: this tough decision. There's also, you know a lot of

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Speaker 8: guys that won't get as much in I own money

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Speaker 8: as they think, like our alignment defensive players, and then

588
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Speaker 8: you sign them and they blame it on you. Oh,

589
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Speaker 8: I mean I didn't get any marketing. My agent's not

590
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Speaker 8: doing nothing. It's like, no, you're an offensive lineman.

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Speaker 6: They don't make SI offense alignment.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, so it can be a little bit difficult, and

593
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Speaker 8: you don't want to take the blame. You don't want

594
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Speaker 8: to lose a client and it be on you that

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Speaker 8: you lost them.

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Speaker 5: Well, how do you feel about the rule in general?

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Speaker 5: As far as the uh, there's been something that's been

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Speaker 5: you know, talked about for a long period of time

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Speaker 5: for athletes. This still not actually getting paid from the universities,

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Speaker 5: but at least that being they getting some endorsement deals.

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Speaker 5: So how do you how do you feel about it,

602
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Speaker 5: and how do you feel it will impact college sports.

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Speaker 8: I think it was an easy way out for the NCUBA.

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Speaker 8: This is, like you said, it's not pay for play.

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Speaker 8: I think that's the bigger issues that they're literally playing

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Speaker 8: for free when they should be being paid by the

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Speaker 8: nc DOUBLEA. So that's a separate issue that still needs

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Speaker 8: to be tackled. I'm excited that guys are able to

609
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Speaker 8: benefit off their likeness. There's so many question marks though,

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Speaker 8: Like you know, I have to remind players, you got

611
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Speaker 8: to pay taxes on that money, right, and they don't

612
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Speaker 8: know they get this one hundred thousand dollars check and

613
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Speaker 8: they don't take taxes out like W two income it's

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Speaker 8: ten ninety nine. They've got to pay it. They need

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Speaker 8: to have LLCs, they maybe have lawyers. I've seen guys

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Speaker 8: getting caught up in contracts with exclusivity provisions and now

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Speaker 8: they can't sign anything else the rest of their college

618
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Speaker 8: career because of this contract they signed. So it needs

619
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Speaker 8: to be policed in a way that protects the players

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Speaker 8: and it's just not not yet.

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Speaker 7: So right now, the president of Football Operations at CLUTCH,

622
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Speaker 7: what is that? What is your role at CLUTCH? And

623
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Speaker 7: you know on a day to day what does that

624
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Speaker 7: look like?

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Speaker 6: Right?

626
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Speaker 7: Are you still hand to hand with the clients or

627
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Speaker 7: do you have a team under you now that works

628
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Speaker 7: and they do with some of the heavy work that

629
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Speaker 7: you use it do.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, so I you know, I represent about twenty one

631
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Speaker 8: NFL players personally, we have I think seventy five or

632
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Speaker 8: so at CLUTCH, and so I still am day to

633
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Speaker 8: day with my guys. We do have a team of

634
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Speaker 8: people like client services, reps, marketing people that work with

635
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Speaker 8: our players too. That takes a little bit of the

636
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Speaker 8: burden off of me. But as president of Football oppos,

637
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Speaker 8: it's more of just a big picture, right. It's more

638
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Speaker 8: of me saying not just my twenty one players, but

639
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Speaker 8: seventy five guys. You know, how are we operating as

640
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Speaker 8: a group, whether that's going to the Senior Bowl or

641
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Speaker 8: going to the Combine or making sure that they're set

642
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Speaker 8: up for their off season training. It's more of that

643
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Speaker 8: logistics for everyone and just kind of helping lead the

644
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Speaker 8: division with my partner Bobo.

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Speaker 4: So I forget what the exact number is.

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Speaker 5: What is something like seventy percent of NFL players file

647
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Speaker 5: for bankruptcy five years after they get finished playing something

648
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Speaker 5: like that. Okay, so now that you are in a

649
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Speaker 5: position to you know, influence and affect a lot of people,

650
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Speaker 5: how do you change that statistic? Because you would assume that,

651
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Speaker 5: you know, it would decrease as people make more money,

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Speaker 5: but it really hasn't changed. Even though in salaries increase,

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Speaker 5: it's still kind of the same rate of people mismanaging

654
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Speaker 5: their money. So what a what is what is the

655
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Speaker 5: core reasons for this? And what are some ways you

656
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Speaker 5: think that you could possibly change that?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, so I will say one of the biggest lessons

658
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Speaker 8: I learned getting into this business because part of why

659
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Speaker 8: I got in was guys gone broke. Me watching guys

660
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Speaker 8: go from rags to riches to rags. That was why

661
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Speaker 8: I wanted to get in, and that's why I went

662
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Speaker 8: to finance, thinking, Okay, I'm gonna be their financial advisor.

663
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Speaker 8: And so when I got in, I'm like, no, guys

664
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Speaker 8: going broke under my watch, Like I'm going to be

665
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Speaker 8: on it. And I learned that you can only protect

666
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Speaker 8: a player so much. I had a player literally go

667
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 8: broke me Nicole Lon who is so hands on, And

668
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Speaker 8: the only reason why I got in this business was

669
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Speaker 8: for that. And I watched this player go broke, and

670
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Speaker 8: there is only so much I could do. These are

671
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Speaker 8: grown men with their own money, and it was such

672
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Speaker 8: a hard peel pill to swallow to know that no

673
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Speaker 8: matter what you do or what you say, there's certain

674
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Speaker 8: guys that will slip through the cracks, you know. So

675
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Speaker 8: my goal is just if I can help majority as

676
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Speaker 8: long as they have the resources, I mean, they've still

677
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Speaker 8: got to take it. I say. The main reason why

678
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 8: they caught some of the guys go broke is family members.

679
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 8: You know, they're paying for everybody and the mama. And

680
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Speaker 8: then it's little things like living up to certain standards

681
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Speaker 8: of the NFL has, like away games. The guys wear

682
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Speaker 8: these suits, right, they all get these suits for eight

683
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Speaker 8: games a week, and they spend sixty grand on suits

684
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Speaker 8: that they only can wear once because that's the rule.

685
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Speaker 8: Little stupid stuff like that. You know, statistics show that

686
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Speaker 8: some of those little things are part of the reason

687
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Speaker 8: why guys go broke. It's like stuff that just it's

688
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Speaker 8: literally throwing away money.

689
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Speaker 6: So we shouldn't wait to cardia glasses.

690
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Speaker 4: That's an investment. That's an investment.

691
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Speaker 7: So I'm wondering now because obviously, you know, crypto is,

692
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Speaker 7: you know, an asset class, a new one for this generation,

693
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Speaker 7: and a lot of the high profile athletes have been

694
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Speaker 7: taking portions of their salary in crypto. So you know

695
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Speaker 7: what happens when you know one of your clients says, hey,

696
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Speaker 7: I want to explore this route. What do you advise

697
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Speaker 7: at this point? Right, we saw Odell caught a lot

698
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Speaker 7: of flashback and people didn't really understand the terms of it.

699
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Speaker 7: But like, what do you say to a client that says, hey,

700
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Speaker 7: I want to explore this route too, You.

701
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Speaker 8: Know, I think that's really for their financial advisor. I

702
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 8: try to make sure that there's boundaries, you know. I

703
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 8: don't manage a person's money. All My goal is to

704
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Speaker 8: educate them on big picture like the thought process of money.

705
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 8: You know, similar to me, a lot of the guys

706
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 8: I've worked with grew up broke and so our thought

707
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 8: process and the way we view money is really skewed.

708
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Speaker 8: So I'm there for that part. But I want to

709
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Speaker 8: make sure that they have the right people and the

710
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Speaker 8: experts around them, So I asked them to go to

711
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Speaker 8: their financial advisor, make sure that they know what they're

712
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Speaker 8: into before they do it. Can't just go with what

713
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Speaker 8: the trend is. You got to be able to explain

714
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Speaker 8: to me, Hey, this is what crypto is, Nicole, and

715
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 8: here's why it's important, and here's why I want to

716
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Speaker 8: do it. If you can't talk it back to me,

717
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Speaker 8: then you don't get it. And if you don't get it,

718
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Speaker 8: your money shouldn't be in it.

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Speaker 5: Have any Have any of clutch athletes taken salary and

720
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Speaker 5: bitcoin or acts or side?

721
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Speaker 8: No? Not on the football side. Okay, there's not a

722
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Speaker 8: lot of guys in football generally that I've seen, like

723
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 8: three or four. It's the same. It's just like getting

724
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Speaker 8: paid and then you can put your money. I think

725
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 8: it's more of a pr moment. If I'm keeping it real,

726
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 8: it's like you could just go get your check and

727
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Speaker 8: buy your own bitcoin.

728
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Speaker 7: I think that's what when I was referring to people

729
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Speaker 7: don't really understand the terms of the deal. So like

730
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Speaker 7: when you see Odell do it, or we saw Aaron

731
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Speaker 7: Rodgers take portion of it, there must be a part

732
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Speaker 7: of that deal where they're like, hey, if you say this, then.

733
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Speaker 4: Well it was ponsible by cash app exactly.

734
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Speaker 5: So it's room with that cash up actually paid a

735
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Speaker 5: million more money than they actually received, so.

736
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Speaker 8: You know, some more of a marketing deal involved.

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Speaker 4: Exactly.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you recently wrote a book, right I did?

739
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Speaker 8: I did?

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Speaker 4: Can you talk about that?

741
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Speaker 8: Absolutely? So you know, the book is really a self

742
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 8: help book. It's not a memoir. There's pieces of my life,

743
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Speaker 8: whether it's like growing up or kind of working in

744
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 8: the industry. Like, there's definitely some stories in there, but

745
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 8: it's mostly about how to become your own agent. It's

746
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 8: not about how to get into sports. You know. I

747
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,879
Speaker 8: feel like if you're not walking in your purpose, you're

748
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 8: just working and living to die. And so I want

749
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Speaker 8: the younger generation to really figure out what their purpose is,

750
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Speaker 8: how to be successful in that purpose, you know, and

751
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Speaker 8: how to really just navigate life. And so that's what

752
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 8: what agent you use about. So it's everything from like

753
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Speaker 8: how to take the jump to chase your dream to

754
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Speaker 8: self care back.

755
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 7: Like we never left, right we were here exactly, let's

756
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Speaker 7: talk about that.

757
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 8: I went and got the book agent you So, yeah,

758
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 8: you can buy this book anywhere bart and Nobles, Amazon.

759
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 8: Believe that it will change your life. Like I said,

760
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 8: it's not a memoir, it is a self help book,

761
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Speaker 8: and I and there's action items in it, and I've

762
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Speaker 8: been working on it. I worked on it for years,

763
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Speaker 8: So I believe it. I believe it'll change your life.

764
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Speaker 7: And it's not necessarily for somebody that wants to get

765
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Speaker 7: into the field of being an agent. You said, it's

766
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Speaker 7: more for and for people to advocate for themselves. Right,

767
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Speaker 7: So when you were coming up with the idea for

768
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Speaker 7: the book and the concept for the book, what you're

769
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 7: thinking about the young men and women that were, you know,

770
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Speaker 7: trying to trailblaze in different areas of business and finance,

771
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 7: So entrepreneurs, Yeah, I.

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Speaker 8: Mean it's all I can think about is, you know,

773
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Speaker 8: people getting a seat at the table whatever in their

774
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 8: respective industries. How to get a seat at the table.

775
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 8: People that look like us don't always have that opportunity.

776
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 8: So what is it? What was the X factor for

777
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 8: me that can apply to anybody in sports and finance?

778
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:52,879
Speaker 8: You know if you're an entrepreneur that that's the same

779
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 8: thing that I did that others can do. And I

780
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 8: really wanted to give the blueprint because people ask me

781
00:35:58,400 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 8: all the time how'd you do it? And it's not

782
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:01,359
Speaker 8: about in the sports, but how did you reach your

783
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 8: dream job? And I'm like, you can do it too, like,

784
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 8: so I just want to give away the secret sauce.

785
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 8: So get your get your dream job, get your book.

786
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Speaker 4: There you have it.

787
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Speaker 5: I think we have a few more minutes before we wrap,

788
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 5: so I just wanted to ask you some questions. You know,

789
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Speaker 5: being around what is what is a common denominate? Because,

790
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 5: like I said, there's a lot of young people, So

791
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,359
Speaker 5: what are the common denominates that you see, whether it's

792
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 5: high level performing athletes or being around Rich Paul or

793
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Speaker 5: being around you know, anybody, Like, I'm sure that there's

794
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 5: common themes that you see and that you can give

795
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 5: advice for people to actually apply and to become successful.

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Speaker 8: One obviously is work ethic. You know, I feel like

797
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 8: that's super cliche, but the best of the best work

798
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,879
Speaker 8: harder than their peers, you know, point blank period. People

799
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 8: think they're working hard until you're sitting next to Rich

800
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:59,399
Speaker 8: Paul and then you're like, oh am I working hard

801
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 8: And it's similar to me. You think you're working hards

802
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 8: you've really met me, and it's like it makes you

803
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 8: want to level up. I think the second we talked

804
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 8: about is excellence dooing and trying to be excellent everything

805
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 8: you do, whether it's a small meeting, making sure you're

806
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 8: on time, making sure you have the notes you know,

807
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 8: or making sure that you have more information than everyone else.

808
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 8: So like when I'm going in to meet a player,

809
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 8: I'm going to know every stat I'm going to know

810
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 8: the kid's birthday. I'm gonna know what elementary school he

811
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 8: went to. I am going to be excellent everything I do.

812
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 8: And then I think third is people that have really

813
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 8: reached this caliber and success are comfortable with losing. And

814
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 8: I talk about that in my book. It's like someone

815
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 8: that is okay with getting to know, you know, they

816
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,720
Speaker 8: don't fall down and you know, slump and get depressed

817
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 8: and say, hey this I'm giving up. It's like, no,

818
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 8: they're comfortable with losing. They're comfortable with the know it

819
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Speaker 8: motivates them to keep going.

820
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Speaker 7: Probably, so I know you represent obviously NFL players and

821
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 7: just other areas of talent that you represent. Did you

822
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 7: ever think of any other professional leagues? You know, I'm

823
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,439
Speaker 7: just football is my thing, kind of been my dream job.

824
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 7: I want to stay here, dominate this or all we

825
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 7: think about expanding NHL, NBA, MLB.

826
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Speaker 8: So I'm actually certified in the NBA as well, you know,

827
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Speaker 8: I you know, I hate I'm not trying y'all spiritual,

828
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:17,360
Speaker 8: but you know, I felt like God told me to

829
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 8: get certified. I don't recruit in the NBA. I just

830
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:21,439
Speaker 8: feel like I'm supposed to have it for a reason.

831
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Speaker 8: I don't know what that reason is. So maybe on

832
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 8: the next podcast in a year or two, it'll it'll

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00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:27,959
Speaker 8: all reveal itself. But I am certified in the NBA,

834
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Speaker 8: and then I represent some pro softball players. So I've

835
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 8: had three number one overall picks on the softball realm,

836
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 8: which yes, there is a pro softball league, and I

837
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 8: actually represent them for free. And so really for me,

838
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 8: my way to get back to women's sports and really

839
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 8: find that, you know, try to find that way to

840
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 8: have parity in men and women's sports is by making

841
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 8: sure that they have an advocate, they have an agent.

842
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 8: A lot of them don't and most of the reason

843
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 8: is because they can't afford it, and so I do

844
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 8: that for them for no charge.

845
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Speaker 7: Being so being certified in the NBA doesn't also quale

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Speaker 7: for you for the w n B A as well.

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Speaker 8: I think technically I don't think there's a certification for

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00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 8: the w NBA. Okay, yeah, I don't think that there is.

849
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Speaker 4: So what's next for you? You started off as in

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00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 4: there Gohos, Cliff had, I had.

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Speaker 3: I had a couple of questions to have to read

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Speaker 3: out some of the q and as that we had

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Speaker 3: come in.

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Speaker 4: I mean, we're done, yeah, Cliff ispen in now Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 3: So the Jalen had a question h and was asking

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Speaker 3: what would you tell your what was it that you

858
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 3: were telling yourself while you were working in undergrad you know,

859
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Speaker 3: in what that process looked like.

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Speaker 8: Like to motivate myself.

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00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: Uh, you know, I don't My upbringing was a little rough,

863
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 8: and so I think I was very much driven by

864
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 8: not going back. You know. It was always like you

865
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:56,919
Speaker 8: are not about to be broken again. So I think

866
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Speaker 8: there was a little bit of fear, like driven by fear,

867
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 8: which is not something I'm proud to say, but you know,

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Speaker 8: I just I didn't have a plan B. It was

869
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Speaker 8: either I was going to be successful or I was

870
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 8: going to be screwed. You know, I had to take

871
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 8: care of family, and so I think it was more

872
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 8: just me motivating myself that you don't ever want to

873
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 8: go back to where you started. And you know, people

874
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 8: will ask me the question, oh, could you have ever

875
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 8: imagined this being your life fifteen years ago? I'm like, yeah,

876
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 8: I could. I mean, I just always and I hope

877
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:26,360
Speaker 8: that you feel the same way about yourself and have

878
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 8: that level of confidence. But I always knew it was

879
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:30,359
Speaker 8: never a question. It's like, oh, yeah, I'm a I'm

880
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 8: a work for athletic. It's like I said it so confident,

881
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 8: like probably jay Z did thirty years ago saying he's

882
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 8: going to be a rapper. Like it was the same way.

883
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 8: You know, It's like, yeah, I'm gonna be a rapper?

884
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 4: What else?

885
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 3: So so yeah, perfect, And I'm this question is for

886
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,959
Speaker 3: all of you, all for Nicole overshad Android, and it's

887
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,359
Speaker 3: I think it's very important because I think as any

888
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 3: of like the students are starting to work their way

889
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 3: up and understanding like the pressures that that is going

890
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 3: to take in and learn how to live with that

891
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 3: uncomfortability is also so important to you know, mental health

892
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 3: and self care.

893
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 6: So for for you know, for.

894
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 3: All of you, what is it that they were asking

895
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 3: what you did to make sure that you're you know,

896
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,359
Speaker 3: working on self care. So if there's anything that you

897
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:17,760
Speaker 3: all could offers, like nuggets uh for for how you

898
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 3: you know, maintain that equilibrium, I think they'd be useful

899
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 3: for everyone.

900
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:25,959
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean for me personally, balance is a tough word,

901
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 7: especially in our space, just because of a level of

902
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 7: commitment and sacrifice that you have to make.

903
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 6: But I guess set.

904
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 7: In limits and so like for me personally, like even

905
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 7: having people having access to me, I cut off at

906
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 7: a certain point during my day just because I know

907
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 7: that there's a family that's counting on me first and foremost. Right,

908
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,359
Speaker 7: I'm still a husband, I'm still a father, still a son,

909
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 7: and a brother and an uncle to to a family,

910
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 7: and so I have limits.

911
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:51,760
Speaker 6: Unto what I'll allow access.

912
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 7: So trying to create those type of things in my

913
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 7: life helps with I guess the imbalance that persists.

914
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 6: So that would be one thing just to keep saying it.

915
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 7: And they keep you grounded too, right, Like I never

916
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 7: get they always like you guys are so humble when

917
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 7: we meet you.

918
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 6: It's like I'm like, yeah, I.

919
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 7: Got like seven people that live around me that could

920
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 7: care less what I'm doing. Right, They're like, yo, change,

921
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 7: like did you take out the garbage? Like can you

922
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 7: help me on my iPad? Like they could care less

923
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 7: about somebody's portfolio that you're helping. Like these people keep

924
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 7: you grounded and so that that helps with the you know,

925
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 7: I guess kind of the the imbalance of life that

926
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 7: we kind of live right now.

927
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 3: What about you, Werisha? And then we talked about yoga

928
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 3: and pilates this past week.

929
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:37,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, I haven't done either a very long time. But

930
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,399
Speaker 5: you know, it's difficult. I think, you know, Shannon Sharp

931
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 5: had a great post, but I mean, of course we

932
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 5: can kind of romanticize it and say.

933
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 4: Like, you know, yeah, you can have it all.

934
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 5: You could be balance, and I'm sure some people can,

935
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 5: but it's definitely not a balanced life that we we're

936
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 5: living right now, Like we.

937
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:52,959
Speaker 4: Travel all the time.

938
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:55,919
Speaker 5: Like's not it's not a normal they we're not living

939
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 5: a normal life. But that's the sacrifice that you have

940
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 5: to make if you want to be great, and the

941
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 5: people around you have to accept that. And you know,

942
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 5: I wish I could say something a little bit more

943
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 5: gentle like how he just said it. But you know,

944
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:11,439
Speaker 5: right now, I feel like, you know, you could either

945
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 5: be great or you could be normal, and there's nothing

946
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,359
Speaker 5: wrong with either one. But if you choose to be great,

947
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 5: there's gonna be certain sacrifices that's gonna be made and

948
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 5: certain people are going to suffer from that.

949
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 4: But while you have time, you should make the time.

950
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 5: So like whenever I'm in town, I always make the time,

951
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 5: you know, go to my son's basketball games and be

952
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 5: around my family because that's important to me.

953
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 4: But there's a lot of games that I can't make,

954
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 4: you know, it's just it is what it is.

955
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 5: Like if we're traveling, if we're in a different country,

956
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 5: I can't make that game, and you know other parents

957
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:40,839
Speaker 5: can make that game.

958
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 4: So that's a sacrifice.

959
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,280
Speaker 5: That he's going to be in a different financial space

960
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 5: than I was at his age, and he's going to

961
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 5: be able to do different things. So what's more important?

962
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 5: And I think for everybody that's in college that's listening,

963
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:56,360
Speaker 5: like you know, you have to make that decision too early,

964
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 5: whether that's you know, it's going to affect your relationship,

965
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 5: it's going to affect you know, the people that you're around.

966
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 5: These are things that it is not really pretty to

967
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 5: talk about, but it's a reality. So just know that

968
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:08,839
Speaker 5: when you're trying to, you know, reach the level of

969
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 5: success that you think that you want to achieve.

970
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 4: There's always a trade off for everything in life. Yeah.

971
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,399
Speaker 8: For me, it's just letting go of busy, being busy

972
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,319
Speaker 8: as a status symbol, even for myself, you know. And

973
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 8: I'm not great with self care at all, So it's

974
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 8: something that I struggle with.

975
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 1: You know.

976
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 8: My goal is just to work smart and not hard,

977
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 8: you know, doing things that are efficient, and I don't

978
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 8: always do that. I'm a check, check the box type person,

979
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,319
Speaker 8: do all the things type person when a lot of

980
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,399
Speaker 8: it's wasting time. So I really want to get better

981
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 8: at being like, let's work smart and not hard. But

982
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 8: I have nothing else on self care. I'm the worst

983
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 8: giving advice on that.

984
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 6: Loties.

985
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, very And so I think we're we're

986
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 3: wrapping up one time here. So I wanted to just

987
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 3: thank you guys a ton for for coming out here.

988
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 3: I personally appreciate it. This is this is surreal for me,

989
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 3: just personally, and I think that everyone's taking like a

990
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 3: bunch of you know, excellent nuggets. Nicole, thank you so much,

991
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:17,919
Speaker 3: Rashad and Troy. We really appreciate you guys. Everyone each

992
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 3: one of you, myself all had like a different path

993
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,399
Speaker 3: for us to even get, you know, onto this type

994
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 3: of zoom and you know, get into this type of

995
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 3: like environment, and for other people that look like us

996
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 3: to see us here. You know, it's kind of it's

997
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 3: a great moment to timestamp. So I just want to say,

998
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:36,359
Speaker 3: I appreciate you all.

999
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 4: Appreciate it.

1000
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 7: I appreciate you too, man having us Cole, it was

1001
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 7: a pleasure, doctor, doctor Lynn.

1002
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 6: It was a pleasure.

1003
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Speaker 8: Thank you for having me.

1004
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 4: It took three years, but we got it done.

1005
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 8: It's worth the way, no time like now, exactly exactly.

1006
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 8: Thank you, sire.

1007
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 6: You guys have a great one.

1008
00:45:58,480 --> 00:45:59,879
Speaker 4: All right, all right, I'll go with yall.

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1010
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Speaker 9: filming and selling child pornography in Michigan. These are just

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Speaker 9: one thousand dollars a day, imprisoned, and deported. You will

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