WEBVTT - Offensive Line Draft Preview with Rashad Butler 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:07.000 Practice, as Paprick throwing into the textow, what a win 0:00:07.160 --> 0:00:13.399 for this Miami Dolphin team. What is up? Dolphins? And 0:00:13.480 --> 0:00:17.200 welcome to the Drivetime Podcast, part of the Miami Dolphins 0:00:17.239 --> 0:00:21.919 official podcast network covering your Miami Dolphins. I am your host, 0:00:21.960 --> 0:00:24.840 Travis Wingfield, and I'm here to bring you your daily 0:00:24.880 --> 0:00:28.360 dose of Miami Dolphins football. And on today's show, we 0:00:28.440 --> 0:00:31.280 are joined by an eight year NFL VET along the 0:00:31.360 --> 0:00:34.960 offensive line to break down Miami's to free agent additions 0:00:35.000 --> 0:00:37.800 to that group and this deep draft class, both at 0:00:37.800 --> 0:00:41.480 the tackle position and along the interior offensive line. We'll 0:00:41.479 --> 0:00:43.960 do that here on this Monday, April the sixth edition 0:00:44.240 --> 0:00:50.360 of the Drivetime Podcastami Dolphins. And we are less than 0:00:50.440 --> 0:00:54.360 three weeks away from the draft kicking off on April Thursday, 0:00:54.600 --> 0:00:57.440 eight o'clock in the East, five o'clock out in the west. 0:00:57.720 --> 0:01:00.319 And as we are now just seventeen days away from 0:01:00.320 --> 0:01:02.640 the draft kicking off, I figured, why don't we go 0:01:02.680 --> 0:01:04.480 ahead and talk to a bunch of experts on the 0:01:04.520 --> 0:01:07.800 podcast and break this thing down position by position and 0:01:07.840 --> 0:01:10.880 get a bunch of experts on these particular positions, whether 0:01:10.920 --> 0:01:12.880 it's guys that have played in the league, guys that 0:01:12.920 --> 0:01:16.280 have extensive knowledge of these particular positions and have done 0:01:16.319 --> 0:01:18.760 their work and their homework on this draft class. And 0:01:18.800 --> 0:01:22.200 so today's podcast, we're talking all things offensive line with 0:01:22.280 --> 0:01:25.200 former offensive lineman both at the University of Miami and 0:01:25.280 --> 0:01:27.880 in the NFL, Rashad Butler. Let's go ahead and get 0:01:27.920 --> 0:01:31.160 to that interview, and joining the Drivetime podcast now is 0:01:31.200 --> 0:01:34.840 former Miami Hurricanes offensive tackle. He played eight years in 0:01:34.880 --> 0:01:38.160 the league with Carolina, Houston, and Cleveland, most recently a 0:01:38.280 --> 0:01:41.640 radio personality on seven ninety the Ticket in South Florida 0:01:41.840 --> 0:01:43.640 and a good friend of mine as well. He is 0:01:43.760 --> 0:01:47.200 Rashad Butler. Rashad, what's up, Big Doug, what's going on? 0:01:47.200 --> 0:01:50.400 My man? Thank you for having me on the Drive 0:01:50.800 --> 0:01:54.720 Time podcasts. I feel like I've made it now there. Wow, Well, 0:01:54.760 --> 0:01:56.680 it's funny. It's funny for you to say that because 0:01:56.680 --> 0:01:59.400 we've done this semple times before where you're the one 0:01:59.440 --> 0:02:01.960 asking me questions. So I'm excited to get into the 0:02:01.960 --> 0:02:04.440 weeds here on a position that to me, Rashad, this 0:02:04.520 --> 0:02:07.240 is the least understood position in all of football. And 0:02:07.280 --> 0:02:09.880 I say this with full disclosure for myself because it's 0:02:09.919 --> 0:02:11.720 true for me, because I think there's a lot of 0:02:11.760 --> 0:02:14.760 guesswork that goes into it when you don't know the assignments. 0:02:14.919 --> 0:02:17.440 But that's where an eight year NFL VET comes in 0:02:17.840 --> 0:02:22.560 to handle that type of conversation, right. Oh. Absolutely. Uh. 0:02:22.720 --> 0:02:26.639 I love breaking down offensive lineman. Uh. It's something that, 0:02:27.280 --> 0:02:29.960 like you said, I've been accustomed to doing because I 0:02:30.040 --> 0:02:32.760 played the position all my life. I mean, going back 0:02:32.800 --> 0:02:35.560 to little league, the very first position I played was 0:02:35.680 --> 0:02:38.240 along the offensive line. I mean I didn't have the 0:02:38.320 --> 0:02:42.560 choice of playing like defensive line or a linebacker, you know, 0:02:42.720 --> 0:02:45.920 cornerback or hell even quarterback. He would like, listen, you 0:02:45.960 --> 0:02:48.560 are bigger than the rest of the kids, so you're 0:02:48.560 --> 0:02:52.440 gonna be down here, uh, in the trenches. But sometimes 0:02:52.440 --> 0:02:54.040 don't they want to give that kid the ball making 0:02:54.040 --> 0:02:57.680 the running backs so that he can just run fools over. Well, 0:02:58.040 --> 0:03:00.919 you know, I think a lot of the other kids 0:03:01.000 --> 0:03:03.280 were a lot faster than me back then. So uh, 0:03:03.639 --> 0:03:05.360 I think it was a no brainer that I think 0:03:05.440 --> 0:03:08.760 I was probably best suited along the offensive line. Well, 0:03:08.919 --> 0:03:10.600 I think it worked out at the end for your 0:03:10.639 --> 0:03:12.720 roshot eight years in the league. We're gonna talk about 0:03:12.720 --> 0:03:15.000 some football here, but first I gotta ask you man, 0:03:15.040 --> 0:03:17.320 this is the topic we always get into first here. 0:03:17.480 --> 0:03:19.800 How are you doing with all this coronavirus stuff and 0:03:19.840 --> 0:03:24.119 beings quarantined? You're staying healthy, You're staying safe, I am. 0:03:24.480 --> 0:03:29.720 I think the toughest part is just sticking to your 0:03:29.960 --> 0:03:34.240 normal routine throughout the day. I'm very routine, because you know, 0:03:34.280 --> 0:03:37.440 I played football my entire life, dating back to high school, 0:03:38.120 --> 0:03:41.920 then through college and in the NFL, and I'm very routine. 0:03:42.440 --> 0:03:45.040 But now, man, I mean, I think ever since I retired, 0:03:45.120 --> 0:03:48.120 I got myself on a routine and I was able 0:03:48.200 --> 0:03:50.200 to do things throughout the day or I had things 0:03:50.280 --> 0:03:53.160 to do throughout the day. But with this quarantine, I'm 0:03:53.160 --> 0:03:56.960 finding myself finishing my daily routine a lot quicker or 0:03:56.960 --> 0:03:59.920 a lot earlier. And man, it's just really hard to 0:04:00.520 --> 0:04:02.440 I guess, you know, make up the time or try 0:04:02.480 --> 0:04:05.280 to find something to do to pass that time when 0:04:05.320 --> 0:04:08.000 you have just so much time in your hands. Yeah, 0:04:08.080 --> 0:04:10.120 staying active is the number one thing you have to do. 0:04:10.160 --> 0:04:12.280 And for someone that's worked for home for basically three 0:04:12.360 --> 0:04:14.720 or four years now, that's a challenge that I've been 0:04:14.720 --> 0:04:17.080 accustomed to for a few years. But this is a 0:04:17.120 --> 0:04:19.120 whole another level. I mean, getting out to the gym 0:04:19.240 --> 0:04:21.200 was like my my favorite thing to do because it, 0:04:21.279 --> 0:04:23.599 just like you said, it breaks up the day. But 0:04:23.680 --> 0:04:26.360 now I'm out in my backyard looking like Moren with 0:04:26.400 --> 0:04:29.119 my little hand with my dumbbells out there running around 0:04:29.120 --> 0:04:32.200 doing my own drills and stuff. So it's it's something, man. 0:04:32.200 --> 0:04:34.080 We gotta stay busy. That's gonna how we're gonna get 0:04:34.120 --> 0:04:35.880 through this, I think. But I think we're on the 0:04:35.960 --> 0:04:37.839 right track. I hope we're on the right track. Let's 0:04:37.839 --> 0:04:40.360 talk some football rashot and get people hear what they 0:04:40.400 --> 0:04:42.840 want to hear on this podcast. First, before we do, 0:04:43.080 --> 0:04:45.160 I want to hear about your draft day experience, third 0:04:45.240 --> 0:04:48.599 round draft pick of the Carolina Panthers, number eighty six overall. 0:04:48.880 --> 0:04:52.080 What was that experience like for you? Uh, it was 0:04:52.080 --> 0:04:56.760 a great experience, just because I was under the impression 0:04:56.960 --> 0:05:01.320 from uh my agents that I was going to be 0:05:01.760 --> 0:05:05.799 a early fourth round pick, so somewhere in the fourth round. 0:05:05.920 --> 0:05:09.440 And back then the draft was two days, Saturday and Sunday, 0:05:09.440 --> 0:05:13.400 where Saturday was the first three rounds and Sunday was 0:05:14.200 --> 0:05:18.599 rounds four through seven. So I was anticipating not hearing 0:05:18.600 --> 0:05:20.720 my name called it at all on that first day 0:05:20.800 --> 0:05:22.760 so you know, I watched the draft the first day 0:05:22.800 --> 0:05:25.320 because you know, a lot of those guys that went early. 0:05:25.440 --> 0:05:29.159 I knew about where I played up against UH throughout 0:05:29.200 --> 0:05:33.360 that season. And I remember I was actually it was 0:05:33.400 --> 0:05:35.479 at night and I was heading to get something to 0:05:35.600 --> 0:05:40.039 eat with my my dad two Wendy's and my phone 0:05:40.080 --> 0:05:42.000 starts to ring and I see a seven or four 0:05:42.120 --> 0:05:44.960 number and I had no idea what the hell is 0:05:45.000 --> 0:05:47.280 seven or four number was? And it was the Carolina 0:05:47.320 --> 0:05:51.000 Panthers and they got on the phone. I think he 0:05:51.080 --> 0:05:55.160 may have been a scout or something, and he asked me. 0:05:55.200 --> 0:05:57.320 He was like, uh, you want to be a Carolina 0:05:57.360 --> 0:05:59.680 Panther And I'm like, hell yeah, Like let's get this 0:05:59.680 --> 0:06:03.480 party started. And I just remember, you know, briefly talking 0:06:03.480 --> 0:06:06.159 to Marty Herny, who was the GM at the time, 0:06:06.760 --> 0:06:09.520 UH and then Coach Fox who was the head coach 0:06:09.560 --> 0:06:12.000 at the time. And again I was just in utter 0:06:12.080 --> 0:06:15.560 belief because I had my mind set along with my agents, 0:06:15.600 --> 0:06:19.240 that I was gonna go early on Sunday. So I 0:06:19.279 --> 0:06:21.880 remember I was just anticipating getting something to eat from 0:06:21.880 --> 0:06:24.720 Wendy's and then going back and just you know, getting 0:06:24.760 --> 0:06:26.800 some sleep and then waking up early and getting ready 0:06:26.839 --> 0:06:29.920 for uh, I guess getting ready to hear my name 0:06:29.960 --> 0:06:33.000 called on Sunday. But man, I mean that was a 0:06:33.560 --> 0:06:36.320 very huge surprise, man, And I remember I was just 0:06:36.400 --> 0:06:38.320 extatic the rest of the night. I mean, honestly, I 0:06:38.360 --> 0:06:40.880 don't think I got any sleep that night at all, 0:06:41.240 --> 0:06:43.560 because again, it was just an utter surprise to me, 0:06:43.720 --> 0:06:45.920 A big surprise that had to be the best tasting 0:06:46.000 --> 0:06:49.039 junior bake and cheeseburg you ever ate. I'm sure you know. 0:06:49.080 --> 0:06:51.000 The funny thing about it, I cannot remember what I 0:06:51.040 --> 0:06:55.080 got from Wendies either to this day. You were too excited. 0:06:55.120 --> 0:06:56.720 Something else came up that was a little bit more 0:06:56.760 --> 0:06:59.360 important that day for you. So we understand that. Let's 0:06:59.360 --> 0:07:01.039 go ahead now and talk about the real reason you 0:07:01.120 --> 0:07:03.760 hear on this podcast for shot talk about some offensive 0:07:03.800 --> 0:07:06.160 line play, and coming into the off season, we knew 0:07:06.200 --> 0:07:08.839 the Dolphins had to add some guys to that front line, 0:07:08.960 --> 0:07:11.720 and they have. They added quality starters and Eric Flowers 0:07:11.760 --> 0:07:14.119 and Ted Carriss. Let's go ahead and start there first. 0:07:14.200 --> 0:07:16.600 What with what we currently have. You always teach me 0:07:16.680 --> 0:07:19.240 things about offensive line play, Rashod, whether it's on Twitter, 0:07:19.480 --> 0:07:22.200 through our text change, on these podcasts, whatever it is, 0:07:22.400 --> 0:07:24.600 I think it's the toughest to evaluate. Like I mentioned, 0:07:24.720 --> 0:07:26.400 So now I ask you to do the same here 0:07:26.480 --> 0:07:29.640 with our audience on this drivetime podcast. Give me your 0:07:29.640 --> 0:07:32.280 film notes on both Eric Flowers and Ted Carress if 0:07:32.280 --> 0:07:36.520 you can. So. With both players, I treated both players 0:07:36.520 --> 0:07:39.920 a little bit differently. I wanted to watch three games, 0:07:40.240 --> 0:07:44.000 uh in entirety of both players, but I wanted to 0:07:44.040 --> 0:07:47.760 watch Eric Flowers first because I know Eric Flowers was 0:07:47.920 --> 0:07:50.760 new to the guarden position. This was the first year 0:07:50.800 --> 0:07:55.600 where he was moved from outside uh two inside. So 0:07:56.560 --> 0:07:58.880 with him, what I wanted to do was I wanted 0:07:58.920 --> 0:08:01.200 to see his progression and throughout the season. So the 0:08:01.280 --> 0:08:04.080 very first game I watched was the Week sixth game 0:08:04.120 --> 0:08:06.960 against the Miami Dolphins, and the second game I watched 0:08:07.120 --> 0:08:10.120 was the Week thirteen game against the Carolina Panthers. In 0:08:10.120 --> 0:08:12.200 the final game I watched the piss was the week's 0:08:12.200 --> 0:08:16.120 seven team game with the Dallas Cowboys. And one thing 0:08:16.200 --> 0:08:17.880 that jumps down on film to me when you look 0:08:17.920 --> 0:08:21.840 at him, that's just is just the sheer power at 0:08:21.840 --> 0:08:25.680 the point of attack. I mean, this guy, I mean, 0:08:25.720 --> 0:08:28.560 we all that knew how big he was, but just 0:08:28.720 --> 0:08:32.480 how powerfully is it's just you see it on film. 0:08:32.520 --> 0:08:34.800 And one thing about him, I mean, once he really 0:08:34.880 --> 0:08:37.920 gets his hands on you, nine times out of ten 0:08:38.160 --> 0:08:41.200 he has the block one. And I think the best 0:08:41.240 --> 0:08:44.400 thing that has ever happened to him was moving from 0:08:44.480 --> 0:08:49.480 uh cackle it to guard and man, listen. Guard fits 0:08:49.520 --> 0:08:52.880 him perfectly because he is just so powerful at the 0:08:52.960 --> 0:08:57.319 point of attack. And I just loved watching those three 0:08:57.360 --> 0:09:00.880 games because you saw him get better as the eason progressed. 0:09:00.920 --> 0:09:03.400 And I think that's one thing that is so important 0:09:03.640 --> 0:09:06.360 with any player in the NFL is you want to 0:09:06.360 --> 0:09:10.280 see progression from gaining the game, especially in a young 0:09:10.320 --> 0:09:13.360 player and especially in a player that he is playing 0:09:13.400 --> 0:09:15.760 the position for the very first time in the NFL. 0:09:15.800 --> 0:09:17.960 And that's one thing I saw with Eric Flowers. Man 0:09:18.120 --> 0:09:21.880 was just again he got better from UH from week 0:09:21.920 --> 0:09:24.480 to week. And he's just so powerful at the point 0:09:24.480 --> 0:09:26.440 of attack. And also I think he does a really 0:09:26.480 --> 0:09:30.600 good job of moving his feet really well in a 0:09:30.760 --> 0:09:33.840 shorter area of space, like I think he excels the 0:09:33.920 --> 0:09:37.000 best to me when it comes to past protection when 0:09:37.000 --> 0:09:40.479 a guy is either head up UH a two alignment 0:09:40.720 --> 0:09:44.720 or slightly outside a three alignment and listen out of 0:09:44.760 --> 0:09:47.960 all those three games I watched, I rarely rarely saw 0:09:48.040 --> 0:09:49.880 him get beat. And if he did get beat, he 0:09:49.920 --> 0:09:53.360 was able when he was able to recover so quick 0:09:53.400 --> 0:09:57.160 to where his uh, his his foot speed made up 0:09:57.160 --> 0:09:59.199 for it. Yeah, his production down the end of the 0:09:59.640 --> 0:10:01.440 back half of the season was up there with the 0:10:01.440 --> 0:10:04.000 best guards in all the football. And then you mentioned 0:10:04.000 --> 0:10:06.920 a couple of those games that Panther tape that was 0:10:06.960 --> 0:10:09.040 a ridiculous tape. I watched that one too, and he 0:10:09.120 --> 0:10:11.080 was just blowing guys off the ball. There was a 0:10:11.160 --> 0:10:13.640 rapp where he had Gerald McCoy and he chipped him 0:10:13.760 --> 0:10:16.040 and he got McCoy turned around, and that made it 0:10:16.080 --> 0:10:17.960 a very easy block for the left tackle on a 0:10:17.960 --> 0:10:20.640 combination block. Then he climbs up to the linebackers and 0:10:20.720 --> 0:10:23.640 completely wipes out Luke Keekley. So we're not talking about 0:10:23.720 --> 0:10:25.800 just run of the mill guys here. We're talking about 0:10:25.880 --> 0:10:28.320 multi time pro bowler, as an All pros that he's 0:10:28.360 --> 0:10:30.720 wiping out pretty easily. He had a very good game 0:10:30.720 --> 0:10:33.000 in that Cowboys game, like you mentioned as well late 0:10:33.000 --> 0:10:35.040 in the season there too. Let's go ahead and talk 0:10:35.040 --> 0:10:37.160 about Ted Carress a little bit here. He can play 0:10:37.200 --> 0:10:39.240 some center, he can play some guard. Kind of the 0:10:39.240 --> 0:10:41.720 theme here of the Dolphins offensive line really the roster 0:10:42.040 --> 0:10:45.000 in general versatility. What did you see from Ted Carross 0:10:45.000 --> 0:10:48.320 on tape? So the way I treated Ted Carres was 0:10:48.640 --> 0:10:53.120 I wanted to see his versatility, meaning the type of 0:10:53.160 --> 0:10:55.079 players he went up again. So the first game I 0:10:55.200 --> 0:10:58.679 chose to watch was the Week nine matchup against the Ravens, 0:10:58.720 --> 0:11:02.120 because I know the Ravens. They're always very stout and 0:11:02.160 --> 0:11:05.520 they have very very big guys that their only job 0:11:05.760 --> 0:11:07.760 is the close of the middle. So I wanted to 0:11:07.760 --> 0:11:11.280 see how he fared against those guys. And boy, he 0:11:11.360 --> 0:11:13.960 did very very well. And the thing that jumped out 0:11:14.000 --> 0:11:16.520 to me on film, you know, and watching the three 0:11:16.559 --> 0:11:22.000 games was how exact his butt, his his his footwork 0:11:22.160 --> 0:11:25.920 was excuse me? And his technique, I mean he I 0:11:25.920 --> 0:11:29.120 want to say, for the most part, he always took 0:11:29.360 --> 0:11:32.240 perfect steps in the running game and even in the 0:11:32.280 --> 0:11:36.800 passing game. I very rarely ever saw him get over extended, 0:11:37.320 --> 0:11:40.320 you know, rum blocking or path blocking, because he was 0:11:40.400 --> 0:11:43.520 so exact with his steps and he actually, you know, 0:11:43.559 --> 0:11:46.160 he played with a nice space and he just never 0:11:46.240 --> 0:11:48.800 got over his heels. I know. The one thing you 0:11:48.880 --> 0:11:52.720 may hear offensive line coaches always harp on offensive linement 0:11:52.800 --> 0:11:55.839 about is bending at the knees rather than the ways. 0:11:55.880 --> 0:11:57.920 Because you've been at the ways, you kind of get 0:11:57.920 --> 0:12:00.400 over your heelers and you happen to you, you happen 0:12:00.480 --> 0:12:02.080 to be on the ground a lot. When you see 0:12:02.080 --> 0:12:04.320 a lot of guys on the ground is because they're 0:12:04.320 --> 0:12:07.120 not playing with enough niving. But Ted Carress, I mean 0:12:07.480 --> 0:12:10.360 in that game to go up against the monsters that 0:12:10.400 --> 0:12:13.320 he went up against, I did not see him get 0:12:13.400 --> 0:12:15.560 pushed back off the ball at all. He was either 0:12:15.600 --> 0:12:18.719 stalemating guys, which is hey to me, that's a win 0:12:18.800 --> 0:12:21.439 against you know, that type of defense, especially in the middle, 0:12:21.880 --> 0:12:24.000 or he was moving guys off the ball. And then 0:12:24.040 --> 0:12:26.560 the third sorry, the second game I watched was the 0:12:26.640 --> 0:12:29.240 game against the Eagles, and that was we could levet 0:12:29.360 --> 0:12:31.120 because I wanted to see him go up against a 0:12:31.200 --> 0:12:34.440 guy and Fletcher Cocks that is big and that's quick. 0:12:34.640 --> 0:12:36.600 And I'm gonna say this, you know Fletcher Cox. I 0:12:36.600 --> 0:12:39.920 mean he is the second highest paid interior defensive linement 0:12:39.960 --> 0:12:43.079 for a reason, behind Aaron Donald and Ted Carress. I 0:12:43.120 --> 0:12:46.000 mean there were plays where he got beat, but I'm 0:12:46.000 --> 0:12:48.920 gonna say this, he held his own against Fletcher Cox. 0:12:48.960 --> 0:12:51.000 I mean there was some plays where he was just 0:12:51.120 --> 0:12:54.640 standing Fletcher cocks up and he was actually driving him 0:12:54.679 --> 0:12:57.240 off the ball. So I was very pleased to see that. 0:12:57.280 --> 0:12:59.600 And in the last game I saw was the game 0:12:59.640 --> 0:13:01.920 against the Dolphins, because it's one thing I know about 0:13:02.080 --> 0:13:05.000 Brian Flora's defense is you know, he's gonna have guys 0:13:05.000 --> 0:13:08.000 that are gonna play big and strong and stout at 0:13:08.040 --> 0:13:09.520 the point of attack, and I want to see him 0:13:09.520 --> 0:13:12.040 go up against the guy and Devon Gotcha who have 0:13:12.080 --> 0:13:14.680 a lot of respect for And again Ted Carris held 0:13:14.720 --> 0:13:17.679 his own against Devon catch out and did very well 0:13:17.720 --> 0:13:22.200 against Christian Wilkins. So to me, when looking at Ted Carris, 0:13:22.240 --> 0:13:25.600 it's just the feat work and just the ability to 0:13:25.720 --> 0:13:28.800 bend his knees and just play with your technique like 0:13:29.000 --> 0:13:32.240 very rarely have I seen a center that just plays 0:13:32.480 --> 0:13:35.320 we get technique and just plays so stout at the 0:13:35.320 --> 0:13:38.040 point of attack. There's a great mic up session with 0:13:38.080 --> 0:13:40.600 Fletcher Cox and that Dolphins game. I know it's not 0:13:40.640 --> 0:13:42.600 the same player we're talking about here where he told 0:13:42.640 --> 0:13:45.199 he tells Michael Dieter after he wins a player wins 0:13:45.200 --> 0:13:46.960 a rep and Dieter says how do you know where 0:13:46.960 --> 0:13:49.160 were running that play? And Fletcher Cox says, there's a 0:13:49.160 --> 0:13:53.080 reason they're paying me twenty million bucks, young pup. So basically, yeah, 0:13:53.080 --> 0:13:54.959 So you can get a sense of how Ted Carres 0:13:55.000 --> 0:13:57.079 can handle some of the game's best on the interior 0:13:57.120 --> 0:13:59.640 offensive line. And while the Dolphins made plenty of strives 0:13:59.679 --> 0:14:02.000 and free agency, they got four teen draft picks to 0:14:02.040 --> 0:14:04.600 work with Rashade and a really good offensive line class 0:14:04.640 --> 0:14:06.199 coming in. And I want to go ahead and get 0:14:06.240 --> 0:14:08.199 your take here. First. Let's go ahead and start with 0:14:08.240 --> 0:14:11.839 the tackle class. And according to most draft sites, there 0:14:11.880 --> 0:14:14.120 are four guys that are basically in the top tier 0:14:14.200 --> 0:14:18.600 on their own Alabama's Jedrick Wills, Iowa's Tristan Worth's, Louisville's 0:14:18.640 --> 0:14:22.400 McKay Beckton, and Georgia's Andrew Thomas. That's not any specific order, 0:14:22.440 --> 0:14:24.400 but I want to get your take on those guys, like, 0:14:24.440 --> 0:14:26.400 what is something that each of those guys does that 0:14:26.440 --> 0:14:29.800 you like Rashade? So I'm gonna start off with the 0:14:29.920 --> 0:14:33.440 number one guy on my board, and that is Jeddrick Wheels. 0:14:34.160 --> 0:14:37.080 The reason I have to number one because he just 0:14:37.160 --> 0:14:41.960 does everything consistently well, you know, and I think when 0:14:42.040 --> 0:14:46.440 you're playing offensive line with you're playing center guard tackle. 0:14:47.240 --> 0:14:52.240 The reason why you have guys like u Zack Martin 0:14:52.920 --> 0:14:55.760 or guys like Andrew Whitworth that had been doing it 0:14:55.840 --> 0:14:58.440 at a high level for so long, or Alex Mac 0:14:58.480 --> 0:15:02.440 at center at their position is because they do things 0:15:02.520 --> 0:15:06.040 consistently well. And when I look at Judged Wills, it's 0:15:06.160 --> 0:15:10.200 hard to find him every game beat on on feeling, 0:15:10.240 --> 0:15:13.360 and it's hard it's hardly to find him ever taking 0:15:13.800 --> 0:15:16.520 just the wrong steps to the wrong angles at guys. 0:15:16.520 --> 0:15:18.840 So that's why I had to number one, and then 0:15:18.880 --> 0:15:21.400 I would say number two. I know a lot of 0:15:21.400 --> 0:15:23.840 people are gonna go with Tristan Worth's, but to me, 0:15:24.000 --> 0:15:28.080 I gotta go with mckaybeca just because I mean, I 0:15:28.120 --> 0:15:31.960 don't think I've seen a guy that big and that strong, 0:15:32.600 --> 0:15:35.640 that is so athletic and so light on his feet 0:15:35.960 --> 0:15:38.280 and the and the scary part about it is that 0:15:38.360 --> 0:15:41.840 kid is only scratching the surfing. I watched that Florida 0:15:41.880 --> 0:15:44.560 State game, and I mean what he was doing to 0:15:44.720 --> 0:15:47.720 those edge Russias from Florida State was not even funny. 0:15:47.800 --> 0:15:50.640 Like me watching film, I felt bad for those guys 0:15:50.880 --> 0:15:53.440 because I'm thinking, like man that must suck to kind 0:15:53.440 --> 0:15:56.040 of put those types of reps on film. I mean, 0:15:56.080 --> 0:15:58.240 to get abused the way they we're getting abused. I mean, 0:15:58.560 --> 0:16:00.680 the sky is just the limit for him. And with 0:16:00.760 --> 0:16:05.280 Tristan Worth's, I mean, I think the school itself, you know, 0:16:05.520 --> 0:16:09.200 says enough. I mean, Iowa has produced so many great 0:16:09.240 --> 0:16:12.080 guys over the years, man, where you know, if you're 0:16:12.160 --> 0:16:16.200 drafting a office alignement from Iowa, there's about to get 0:16:16.240 --> 0:16:19.800 seventy chance that guy is gonna hit at the next level. 0:16:19.800 --> 0:16:21.600 And when I look at Trista Worf's, I mean, the 0:16:22.040 --> 0:16:23.920 one thing that just jumps out to me, it's just 0:16:24.040 --> 0:16:26.760 his athleticism. And I mean, and again he showed it 0:16:26.800 --> 0:16:28.680 off at the combine. I mean, to put up the 0:16:28.760 --> 0:16:32.640 numbers he put up and to be you know, that big, 0:16:32.680 --> 0:16:34.800 I mean that was impressive. I mean he was close 0:16:34.840 --> 0:16:37.640 to putting up tight end numbers. Man. And we're talking 0:16:37.680 --> 0:16:42.880 about a guy that wighs what thirty thirty forty forty 0:16:42.920 --> 0:16:45.280 more pounds more than the average tight end that was 0:16:45.360 --> 0:16:48.280 at the combine. It's crazy, it is, man, it really is. 0:16:48.360 --> 0:16:51.840 And then Andrew Thomas to me, uh, he's a guy 0:16:52.320 --> 0:16:55.600 that is a big, physical guy. I think a guy 0:16:55.680 --> 0:16:57.320 that is still a little raw as far as in 0:16:57.400 --> 0:17:00.920 his technique, uh in specific pastor detected, because I think 0:17:01.000 --> 0:17:02.760 he needs to play with like a little bit more 0:17:03.040 --> 0:17:05.800 me been. But I mean, one thing that I like 0:17:05.920 --> 0:17:08.600 about him is he's a milder man. I mean, he 0:17:09.600 --> 0:17:12.280 is out there to try to embarrass guys, and he 0:17:12.520 --> 0:17:17.640 has no problem with the contact and the constant contact 0:17:17.840 --> 0:17:20.680 play after play after play. Me he's a guy I 0:17:20.800 --> 0:17:26.640 feel like he's a perfect uh run block tackle. I mean, yeah, 0:17:26.720 --> 0:17:29.480 I mean, I love all four. It's fun to watch 0:17:29.600 --> 0:17:31.480 all those guys on tape for the reasons you mentioned, 0:17:31.520 --> 0:17:33.280 And I think the reason that all four of those 0:17:33.359 --> 0:17:35.920 guys really kind of separate themselves from the rest of 0:17:35.960 --> 0:17:38.560 the pack is because, like you said, they all kind 0:17:38.600 --> 0:17:41.440 of offer that same combination of athletic ability and just 0:17:41.600 --> 0:17:43.960 pure power, and some of them maybe more than others. 0:17:44.040 --> 0:17:46.280 But you can watch any of those four guys tape 0:17:46.320 --> 0:17:48.000 and watch them blow guys off the ball or get 0:17:48.040 --> 0:17:50.560 into good pass sex quickly and win that way. So 0:17:50.720 --> 0:17:52.720 it's it's a lot of fun to watch. I imagine 0:17:52.760 --> 0:17:55.040 those four guys go off the board pretty quickly, and 0:17:55.119 --> 0:17:57.720 not in any specific order. Here again, Raschal, But I 0:17:57.760 --> 0:18:00.840 want to get your perception here of the quote unquote 0:18:00.920 --> 0:18:03.520 next tier of guys, and I hate grouping it that 0:18:03.600 --> 0:18:06.080 way because I think that there's a good chance a 0:18:06.160 --> 0:18:07.720 lot of these guys could be good starters at the 0:18:07.760 --> 0:18:09.680 next level two and you never know how that stacks 0:18:09.760 --> 0:18:11.679 up in the draft. Let's go ahead and just go off. 0:18:11.720 --> 0:18:14.399 For instance, the Draft Networks big board, those top four 0:18:14.480 --> 0:18:17.200 guys are all in the top eighteen on their overall 0:18:17.280 --> 0:18:20.280 big board. Then they've got Lucas Nyon from TCU at 0:18:20.320 --> 0:18:23.800 thirty nine, Josh Jones from Houston at forty eight, Prince 0:18:23.840 --> 0:18:27.320 Tega one ago from Auburn, and then Austin Jackson from 0:18:27.440 --> 0:18:29.720 USC at sixty eight. So a good clump of guys 0:18:29.800 --> 0:18:32.480 there again, another tier of players. Can you tell us 0:18:32.520 --> 0:18:34.879 which of those guys you might like who caught your 0:18:34.920 --> 0:18:39.040 eye on film? I know you've been grinding that tape. Uh, well, 0:18:39.320 --> 0:18:43.159 the three guys I like, and just I'll say this 0:18:43.320 --> 0:18:46.560 because I don't want to get off as far as 0:18:46.600 --> 0:18:49.000 grouping these guys as far as where they could the best. 0:18:49.480 --> 0:18:53.680 Lucas Lucas Nyon, I think he's another guy that like. 0:18:53.840 --> 0:18:57.040 Let's just say Ickay Beck has gone early, which I 0:18:57.080 --> 0:18:59.280 think a lot of a lot of people expect, and 0:18:59.520 --> 0:19:01.840 if and you Thomas has gone up early as well too. 0:19:02.320 --> 0:19:04.679 I think that's the guy that the Dolphins should consider 0:19:04.720 --> 0:19:07.320 because when you look at his tape, you know, compared 0:19:07.400 --> 0:19:11.080 to the secondary guys as far as Austin Jackson, Josh Jones, 0:19:11.480 --> 0:19:13.920 he's another model. I mean, I think the only reason 0:19:14.040 --> 0:19:17.600 he's not mentioned, you know, in that first tears because 0:19:17.680 --> 0:19:20.000 I think he's he's had some red flags as far 0:19:20.080 --> 0:19:22.399 as like that hip injury and things of that nature. 0:19:22.480 --> 0:19:25.280 But he's another guy that he loves to be physical 0:19:25.400 --> 0:19:29.400 and he loves to actually play smash mouth football. Austin 0:19:29.520 --> 0:19:32.280 Jackson and Josh Jones I like them too. I think 0:19:32.400 --> 0:19:36.680 their biggest attribute to trait is athleticism. I mean with 0:19:36.920 --> 0:19:41.360 Josh Jones and Austin Jackson, you see, uh, those two 0:19:41.440 --> 0:19:44.919 guys can really get out and move well in space 0:19:45.440 --> 0:19:47.600 and a lot of and and both of them were 0:19:47.760 --> 0:19:51.120 very long arm guys too. I'm glad you mentioned Lucas 0:19:51.200 --> 0:19:53.280 n On in that group there, because he really stands 0:19:53.320 --> 0:19:55.239 out for me for a variety of reasons. He did 0:19:55.359 --> 0:19:57.280 miss the back half of the season with an injury 0:19:57.680 --> 0:20:00.200 and he was really fighting and toughing that thing out 0:20:00.320 --> 0:20:03.040 and playing through pain throughout the season, and you watch 0:20:03.160 --> 0:20:05.840 his pass sets and he talked about this he he came, 0:20:06.160 --> 0:20:08.920