1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:02,000 Speaker 1: The volume. 2 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 2: All right, welcod to hoopson. I here at the volume 3 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 2: heavy Thursday, everybody. Hope all of you guys are having 4 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 2: a great end to your week. Quick show for you 5 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 2: guys today, We're gonna do two instant reactions. I want 6 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:25,920 Speaker 2: to talk about this Charlotte Hornets team that has been 7 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 2: sixteen and three since January twenty second. I'm gonna deep 8 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 2: dive into their blowout victory over the Boston Celtics. I 9 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 2: really want to zoom in on the job that Charles 10 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 2: Lee has done creating variety and emphasizing execution in the 11 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 2: actions that they run. Talk about that game from the 12 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 2: perspective both teams and then the national TV slate. I 13 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 2: want to focus on thunder Nicks a little bit. Talk 14 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 2: about Oklahoma City's defensive versatility, some of the little bright 15 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 2: spots that the Knicks had in the game that they 16 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 2: can look forward with. And I want to talk about 17 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 2: Shake gilds As Alexander's pull up three point shot and 18 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 2: why I think it's such an important thing for the 19 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 2: thunder when they get to the postseason. You guys are 20 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 2: the Joe Porgy started to subscribe to Hoops Tonight YouTube 21 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 2: channels you don't miss any more of our videos. Don't 22 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 2: forget to like this video and sign up for post notifications. 23 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 2: That helps us a lot. Last one at least if 24 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 2: you want to get mailbag questions into our weekly mail bags, 25 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 2: we'll have a mail bag tomorrow coming out in the morning. 26 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 2: Drop them in the full full episodes on YouTube in 27 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 2: the comments underneath. We'll get to them on Fridays throughout 28 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 2: the rest of the year. All right, let's talk some basketball. 29 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:25,279 Speaker 2: The Hornets just kicked the Celtics ass from the opening 30 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:27,680 Speaker 2: tip in this game. They started the game eight to zero. 31 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 2: They never trailed. They won by twenty nine, which was 32 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 2: their largest lead. Boston had two brief runs where they 33 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 2: ended up cutting the lead to sixteen, but in each 34 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 2: case Charlotte immediately was able to respond and regain control. 35 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 2: And it was a mismatch both in the half court, 36 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:46,119 Speaker 2: slowdown environment and on the margins. Both of these teams 37 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 2: are awesome offensive rebounding teams, and yet Charlotte won that margin. 38 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 2: They were eleven to nine in total offensive rebounds on 39 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 2: fifteen to five and second chance points. I've talked about 40 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 2: this over the last few months, but one of my 41 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 2: favorite things about this Hornets team is that all of 42 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 2: their core players, especially their core perimeter players, are scrappers. 43 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 2: They're guys that play super hard, that have a high motor, 44 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 2: have a nose for the basketball, and they tend to 45 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 2: win a lot of fifty to fifty balls. In this 46 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 2: sixteen and three stretch. Since January twenty second, they've been 47 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 2: the best rebounding team in the entire NBA. And it's 48 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 2: not just like you know, Boston does it all on 49 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 2: the offensive rebounding side of things. They've had stretches where 50 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 2: they've defensive rebounded better, but they win that margin purely 51 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 2: through offensive rebounding. Charlotte has been the number one offensive 52 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 2: rebounding team since January twenty second, but they've also been 53 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 2: the second best defensive rebounding team since January twenty second, 54 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 2: so they were able to keep control of that margin 55 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 2: again a double digit margin and. 56 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 1: Second chance points. 57 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 2: Last night, they had twenty one points off of sixteen 58 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 2: Boston turnovers, compared to just five points for Boston off 59 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 2: of Charlotte turnovers off of just five Charlotte turnovers. Now, 60 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 2: neither of these teams are known for turning their opponents 61 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 2: over to score in transition In fact, both of these 62 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 2: teams are near the bottom of the league in both 63 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 2: forcing turnovers and in scoring in transition, but Charlotte won 64 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 2: that battle last night. Brandon Miller and Mussa Diabate in particular, 65 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 2: they were very aggressive in passing lanes. They were jumping 66 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 2: lazy skip passes and swings. They got several runout dunks 67 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 2: off of those types of lazy swing passes. Twenty seven 68 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 2: to eighteen was the total transition points advantage for Charlotte 69 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 2: according to Syenergy, So Charlotte gave him a good sell. 70 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:27,359 Speaker 2: Good gave themselves a good shot right out of the 71 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 2: gates just by being the better team in the details 72 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:32,639 Speaker 2: outside of that half court environment, but in the half 73 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 2: court environment was also a huge advantage towards Charlotte. Cleaning 74 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 2: the glass that Charlotte had a one oh seven offensive 75 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 2: rating in the half court compared to just eighty six 76 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 2: for Boston last night, so a twenty one point per 77 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 2: one hundred possession advantage. The Hornets ran a mix of 78 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 2: some drop coverage but also some switching with Mussa Diabate. 79 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 2: Diabate at various points in the game was hugged up 80 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 2: and ready to switch, especially on actions involving Jalen Brown. 81 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 2: He did run some drop, especially against three man action 82 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 2: and against some the actions with some of Boston's smaller guards, 83 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 2: but then with Kauprenner, it was a steady diet of 84 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 2: deep drop and we've actually seen several times over the 85 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 2: course of the season against deep drop looks Boston's offense 86 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 2: kind of fall apart, and Jalen Brown was brutally bad 87 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:18,280 Speaker 2: last night against all of the drop coverage looks that 88 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 2: he saw. He was really just kind of forcing the 89 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:23,239 Speaker 2: issue in traffic in the paint and not making shots. 90 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 2: He was just six for fifteen in the paint. Jalen 91 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 2: will have some of these games where he gets a 92 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 2: little too aggressive too forcing things downhill, and he'll have 93 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 2: highlights and get a crazy dunk last night getting downhill, 94 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 2: but there was a lot of misses, a lot of 95 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 2: batter reads that he made there in the middle of 96 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 2: the floor. He did have some success attacking Diabatean switches 97 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 2: just by powering through him, but it was in the 98 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 2: fourth quarter when the game was basically over. Just not 99 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 2: a very good night for Jalen Brown as an initiator. 100 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 2: Derek White was the one guy for Boston that had 101 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 2: success against Charlotte's drop coverage. Looks he was just more patient. 102 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 2: He found some better gaps. You shot fake, slowed down, 103 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 2: kind of waited for things to develop, and then when 104 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 2: he got those little gaps in the short range, he 105 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 2: was able to make them. Derek White was six for 106 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 2: eight on those little short shots and floaters right before 107 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 2: the rim last night. I do want to emphasize all 108 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 2: of Charlotte's perimeter players that thought did a great job 109 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:19,039 Speaker 2: of just communicating through Boston's actions, preventing giving up easy 110 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 2: ones by botching switches, especially on some of the movement 111 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 2: shooter actions that they ran. For guys like Sam Hauser, 112 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 2: like they just got really good contests on most of 113 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 2: the actions that he ran. It's a very strong defensive 114 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 2: performance for Charlotte. On the other end of the floor, 115 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 2: Boston ran almost just for the majority of the game 116 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 2: up until about the late third quarter, ran deep drop. 117 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 2: They ran a three center rotation last night, just a 118 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 2: ton of deep drop, and Charlotte just fried it over 119 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 2: and over and over again. They were not forcing things 120 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 2: at the rim, so they had fewer rim attempts in 121 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 2: the half court because again against a deep cover a 122 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:54,679 Speaker 2: deep drop coverage look. It's harder to get quality shots 123 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 2: at their rim, right, but when they did, they were 124 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 2: more efficient because many of them were in transition. Result, 125 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 2: Boston was five for twelve at the rim in this game, 126 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 2: Charlotte was nine for thirteen, so they had an advantage there. 127 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 2: And then the pull up shooting was incredibly impressive. Charlotte 128 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 2: made six pull up threes in this game, four of 129 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 2: which were directly against deep drop looks. So set your 130 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 2: man up for the screen, come off the screen. You 131 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 2: know whether it's Vucevich or Keda, they're just way too 132 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,720 Speaker 2: far back. Settle into that easy little pull up jump 133 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 2: shot in the gap and knock it down. Four of 134 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 2: those six, again, we're against those deep drop looks. Brandon 135 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 2: Miller and Konk Nipple in particular, or nails on those 136 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 2: pull up threes against Boston's bigs, sagging way back into 137 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 2: the paint. The other two pull up threes, Kolbe White 138 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 2: hit a really tough like kind of ISO wanted the 139 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 2: top of the key. I think it was against Derek 140 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 2: White if I remember correctly. Then LaMelo Ball hit an 141 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 2: absolute bomb at the end of the game against Jlen 142 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 2: Brown and like, here's the thing with Charlotte, that's kind 143 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 2: of what they do. Like, Charlotte was six for eleven 144 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 2: on pull up threes and Boston was two for ten. 145 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 2: But Boston has been really struggling on pull up threes 146 00:06:57,800 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 2: for the most part the season. They've been hovering right 147 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 2: around third three percent, and Charlotte since January twenty second, 148 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 2: this six week stretch where they're sixteen and three and 149 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 2: have been the best team in the NBA in this stretch, 150 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 2: they're shooting forty percent on pull up threes as a team. 151 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 2: This is just what they've been doing to everybody. They're 152 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 2: making five and a half of them per game, so 153 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 2: six makes last night was just a little bit above 154 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 2: their average. The only team making more pull up threes 155 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 2: per game since January twenty second is Phoenix, who's making 156 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 2: one tenth of one to three more than Charlotte is, 157 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 2: but shooting just thirty one percent on them, because it's 158 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 2: just you know, they're just jacking them up, so to speak. 159 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 2: Charlotte has been nails on those pull up threes. It's 160 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 2: a very difficult thing to cover. That makes deep drop 161 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 2: coverage very difficult to run against them. They were six 162 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 2: for eleven un pull up threes. They were thirteen for 163 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 2: twenty seven, so just under fifty percent on twos outside 164 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 2: the restricted area. LaMelo ball for example, early third quarter, 165 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 2: really pretty stretch of mid to short range dropped coverage 166 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 2: scoring to start the second half. Brandon Miller did a 167 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 2: lot of work in the mid range as well, on 168 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 2: like curls and face ups things like that, so you're 169 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 2: cooking the drop. Eventually, Boston has to make an adjustment 170 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 2: late third quarter. They start bringing their bigs up to 171 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 2: the level, starting with Vucevich, but the rest of the 172 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 2: game start bringing their bigs up to the level. Now 173 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 2: they're having to tag rollers from the weak side, and 174 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:23,559 Speaker 2: it just led to all these different issues. Kalkbrenner's getting 175 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 2: dunks off of slips because the back line defense for 176 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 2: Boston is just too small. Without Jason Tatum in the 177 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 2: picture right, Pat Coninton got a couple of wide open 178 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 2: threes on four on threes that he just happened to miss. 179 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 2: The big started to get better offensive rebounding possession position. 180 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 2: We talked about this before, but it's one of the 181 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 2: biggest drivers of Charlotte's offensive rebounding success. With Diabat and Kalkbrenner. 182 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 2: Just you end up showing at the level. Now their 183 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 2: bigs are inside, so they're inside, they're getting there a 184 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 2: runway to the basket, or they're just inside position, and 185 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 2: so they're able to get a lot offensive rebounds. They're 186 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 2: seven of Charlotte's eleven offensive rebounds came in the second half. 187 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 2: The coverage just the change led to a lot of 188 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 2: four on threes, which just caused a different set of issues. 189 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 2: And so Charlotte just had answers to the puzzle and 190 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 2: Boston did not. And I want to take some time 191 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 2: to shout out Charles Lee here, two time champion Charles Lee, 192 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 2: who was an assistant on the twenty twenty four Celtics 193 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:19,319 Speaker 2: in the twenty twenty one Bucks, we haven't taken much 194 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:22,559 Speaker 2: time yet this season to talk about like the specific 195 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 2: ways this offense is structured and how well Charlotte executes. 196 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 2: Like every team, Charlotte will allow their players to freelance 197 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 2: from time to time. Right, so you'll see some basic 198 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 2: spread pick and roll typically with LaMelo, right, you'll see 199 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 2: him in the flow kind of part of the game. 200 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 2: They'll LaMelo will just call for a ball screen, they'll 201 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:42,319 Speaker 2: go to their traditional four out spacing, so the corners 202 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:46,079 Speaker 2: occupied opposite wing, diabate comes up and set a screen. Now, 203 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 2: they're gonna be pretty good on those sorts of sequences 204 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 2: because LaMelo's an awesome pick and roll player, and every 205 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 2: single one of their players can finish like they've got 206 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 2: awesome catch and choot players, and Diabatea can work on 207 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 2: the role right. 208 00:09:58,440 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 1: But I love how. 209 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 2: Often Charles League keeps them in structured offense and how 210 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 2: well they execute their sets within that structured offense. I 211 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:09,559 Speaker 2: want to stay on this execution piece here for a 212 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 2: second because I think it's important. A lot of times 213 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 2: people think coaches are in the huddles drawing up magic plays, 214 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 2: like magic sequences of x's and o's that will generate 215 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 2: these easy dunks in easy threes. And that's not to 216 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 2: say that there aren't coaches out there that are still, 217 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 2: you know, being innovative with the way that they draw upsets. 218 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 2: But the reality is is that most of these actions 219 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 2: that most professional teams and college teams run have been 220 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 2: around for a really long time, and most of it 221 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 2: comes down to how well do you actually run it 222 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 2: and how talented are each of your players at the 223 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 2: specific roles within that action, So like, are your bigs 224 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:51,439 Speaker 2: good at setting screens? Are your perimeter guys good at 225 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,319 Speaker 2: fighting through off ball physicality to set their. 226 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 1: Man up for screens? 227 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 2: Are they sprinting in and out of their cuts so 228 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 2: that they're harder to guard as they're going through those actions? 229 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 2: The talent piece like can your bigs pass out of 230 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 2: the high post so that you can run off ball action? 231 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 2: Can your guards make all of the reads when they're 232 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 2: working downhill against drop coverage looks? Can your role men finish? 233 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 2: Can they screen and roll hard and finish vertically at 234 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 2: the basket? Can your spot up shooters hit shots? Those 235 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:21,959 Speaker 2: are the difference between an offense working and not working. 236 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: Most of these. 237 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 2: Concepts have been around for a long time. 238 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: It's just about. 239 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 2: Running them really well, in running them with good players. Now, 240 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 2: the actual ex is and ospiece to me comes down 241 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 2: to variety. As we mentioned earlier, every action has the 242 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 2: potential to work if you execute it well and you 243 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:41,679 Speaker 2: have the right personnel. But the same thing goes for 244 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 2: the defensive end of the four. There is usually a 245 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 2: way to guard each possession or each play type for 246 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 2: each team. If you run the same two or three 247 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 2: actions over and over and over and over against Let's 248 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:55,839 Speaker 2: say you just run a ton of stack pick and roll, 249 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 2: where you just run pick and roll with the shooter 250 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 2: back screening for the big as he's rolling and then 251 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 2: he pops above the key. Or you run a ton 252 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 2: of double drag, which is just a staggered double ball 253 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 2: screen where the guard will usually pop and the big 254 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 2: will usually roll on the as the ball handler is 255 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 2: coming off of the action. If you just run the 256 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 2: same thing over and over again, the defense will find 257 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 2: their best way to cover that action because there is 258 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:19,839 Speaker 2: a defensive execution piece. 259 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 1: Are you tight and sharp with your switches? 260 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 2: Are you talking through them and preventing any sort of 261 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 2: gaps in your switching or botching switches? 262 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 1: Right? 263 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 2: Can you blow up screens with physical ball pressure off 264 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 2: ball physicality? Can your bigs be attentive to all of 265 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 2: these different things, knowing when to help versus when to 266 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 2: stay home. A lot of times guards will get caught 267 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 2: in inverted screens. Like guards, excuse me, bigs, biggs will 268 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 2: struggle to navigate screens and so like if you can 269 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 2: get a big cot in the blender and he gets 270 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 2: grabbed on a pick, all of a sudden you give 271 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 2: up an easy dunk. First play the game right, Mussa 272 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 2: dia Bat gets an inverted screen from LaMelo ball. Caita 273 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 2: just doesn't see it coming. If he sees it coming, 274 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:01,679 Speaker 2: he can go under. And if he goes under, then 275 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 2: Diabate's at least gonna have to kick it out or 276 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 2: shoot something over the top. And no, he just gets 277 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 2: completely caught off guard. Diabaatee goes downhill and dunks it right. 278 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 2: So like there's a defensive execution piece. And if you 279 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 2: run the same action, like they'll be like, okay, well 280 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 2: this in this double drag, let's drop with our big 281 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 2: and then switch the guard guard portion of it, or 282 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 2: like let's just switch all three screens or whatever it is, 283 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 2: Like there's a there's a different coverage that a different 284 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 2: like specific technique that they'll have to guard that action 285 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 2: and they'll figure it out. If you run the same 286 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:35,959 Speaker 2: thing too often, if you run a large variety of actions, 287 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 2: it prevents a defense from settling into a rhythm for 288 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 2: how to guard you, and it can lead to more 289 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:45,079 Speaker 2: breakdowns because the defense isn't seeing the same thing over 290 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 2: and over again and essentially getting to practice how to 291 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 2: guard you. I was really impressed with the variety of 292 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 2: different actions that Charlotte ran yesterday. We did see some stack. Now, 293 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 2: we didn't see too much of it because of how 294 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:00,120 Speaker 2: deep of a drop Boston was in. When you're trying 295 00:13:59,960 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 2: to backscreen the Big, if he's hanging way back, it 296 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 2: doesn't really make a ton of sense. 297 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 1: So it works. 298 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 2: Stack works better when the Big is coming up higher 299 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:09,239 Speaker 2: because then he makes himself an easier target for that backscreen. 300 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 2: We did see it though a handful of times, and 301 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 2: con would be like the guy who would set the 302 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 2: backscreen in the stack, but instead of setting it, he 303 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 2: would just like relocate to the opposite wing because of 304 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 2: how far Boston was in their drop. We did see 305 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 2: a lot of double drags, so like you know, a 306 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 2: guard and a big screening for the ball handler. Again, 307 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 2: the Big usually rolls, the guard will pop lots of 308 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 2: complications before ball screens. They would run Chicago like. That's 309 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 2: essentially where you just have the big dribble hand off 310 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 2: into the ball handler, but you have another guard before 311 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 2: the guard set a pick, so that it basically turns 312 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 2: into the same concept as the double drag. 313 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 1: They will run. 314 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 2: Off ball action for a shooter that like flows into 315 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 2: a ball screen. They ran a ton of quick hitters 316 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 2: in this game, so like little actions that you only 317 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 2: run once or twice a game, but they're designed to 318 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 2: get one of your primary offensive players a quick bucket. 319 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: So like first play the game. 320 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 2: Great example, that's a quick hitter LaMelo ball inverted screen 321 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 2: for diabate, you get a dunk out it Brandon Miller 322 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 2: getting like a he got on a heater there in 323 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 2: the I think it was in the second quarter where 324 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 2: he was getting bucket after bucket after bucket, started with 325 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 2: a dunk where Boston ended up watching a coverage. Hugo 326 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 2: Gonzalez thought they were icing the screen, so he jumped 327 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 2: away on the high side. But the I think it 328 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 2: was uh, it might have been it might have been 329 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 2: Garza who was out there, but Garza ended up jumping 330 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 2: way out like he was gonna show on the other 331 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 2: side of the screen, while Hugo thought it was gonna 332 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 2: be ice, meaning that that Garza would be behind him 333 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 2: and he just wasn't. So Brandon Miller went right downhill 334 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 2: just jackhammer smash with his right hand sparked this hot streak, 335 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 2: So why why not run a quick hitter for Brandon 336 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 2: Miller to try to keep him going. Charles Lee calls 337 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 2: just like a little screen right at the elbow for 338 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 2: Brandon cutting from right under the basket. He just curls 339 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 2: over the top. Boston, still in their little drop, gets 340 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 2: an easy little floater in the lane to keep the 341 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 2: hot streak going. Those are the kinds of like quick 342 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 2: hitters that they got a lot of really good stuff 343 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 2: out of. They ran flex in the middle of the 344 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 2: third quarter and got a layup for Kan K Nipple. 345 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 2: Flex is a ancient basketball action that's been around forever. 346 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 2: All it is is a cross screen for a guy 347 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 2: to cut to the basket and then the guy who 348 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 2: sets the cross screen comes off of a downscreen towards 349 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 2: the top. They ran it and got a wide open 350 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 2: layup for kan K Nipple. Why did it work? Jalen 351 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 2: Brown was lock and trailing Kobe White who was setting 352 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 2: the cross screen. Whogo Gonzalez was lock and trailing Khan 353 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 2: who is cutting towards the basket off of the cross screen, 354 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 2: and you had musa diabate with the basketball on the 355 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 2: left wing because they were in that lock and trail. 356 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 2: Con did a really nice job, just kind of slowly 357 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 2: walking to lull who go to sleep, and then he 358 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 2: just shoots off the pick, sprints off of it. Kobe 359 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 2: very well executed. It gets shoulder to shoulder with kN 360 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 2: as he's cutting. That makes Hu go chase. If that 361 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 2: gap is there, he can shoot the gap, but because 362 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 2: there's no gap, he has to chase. Diabate sees the 363 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 2: play develop hits con right in stride, gets a little 364 00:16:57,800 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 2: layup on the left side of the basket, like so 365 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 2: many of those, like little easy actions to get quick buckets. 366 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 2: There was so much variety in this game from Charlotte 367 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 2: that was picking Boston apart. I was listening to JJ 368 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 2: Reddick talking a postgame presser the other day and he 369 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 2: was talking about how you want to empower your ball 370 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:18,399 Speaker 2: handlers to play in the flow so that they can 371 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 2: find rhythm. You don't want them overthinking the game. But 372 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:25,239 Speaker 2: structured offense that is well executed, with good variety, and 373 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 2: with good players that can finish all the roles in 374 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 2: that action, they will always generate better shots than flow basketball. 375 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 2: So it's a delicate back it's a delicate balance, and 376 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:37,120 Speaker 2: I think Charles Lee has found that balance with this team. 377 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 2: They're just really hard to guard. And I can't say 378 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:42,719 Speaker 2: enough about the talent. It's that perfect mix of like 379 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 2: the traditional offensive engine ball screen guy in LaMelo, you're 380 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 2: scoring forward in Brandon Miller. It was incredible last night. 381 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:53,399 Speaker 2: I've been really impressed with his defense as well. Fantastic 382 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:55,120 Speaker 2: drop coverage rep on the first play of the game 383 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 2: against Derek White, where you got a piece of a 384 00:17:57,080 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 2: floater chasing from behind an off ball shoot and Conk 385 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 2: Nipple in a screen and role guy in Diabat. That's like, 386 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 2: that's like the perfect mix of basketball players primary ball handler, 387 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 2: off ball shooters, scoring forward, screen and roll threat, and 388 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 2: it just mixes together and makes them incredibly difficult to guard. 389 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 2: All of them shoot insane percentages on threes coming off 390 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 2: of screens, so you're basically in a bind deep drop 391 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 2: and let them hit six pull up threes and just 392 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 2: pray that they miss or come up to the level 393 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 2: and start giving up offensive rebounds and catch and shoot 394 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 2: threes for great shooters. I was high on several Hornets 395 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:37,679 Speaker 2: players individually as long term prospects coming into the season, 396 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 2: but I did not think they were ready to be 397 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 2: a competitive basketball team yet. This is something that I've 398 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:44,880 Speaker 2: been very wrong about. I've been blown away by how 399 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 2: far ahead of schedule they are. And a big part 400 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 2: of that, again is just Diabate's development, con Kan Nipple's development, 401 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:53,640 Speaker 2: just similar to the to the stuff that we've talked 402 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 2: about with like San Antonio. Just young players that you 403 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 2: think are two years away that are actually kind of ready. 404 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 2: And it just started to click here in the middle 405 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 2: of the season, and to me, they look like the 406 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 2: fifth best team in the Eastern Conference right now. I 407 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 2: think they're going to make the playoffs. I think they're 408 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 2: going to be a huge pain in the ass for 409 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 2: some great team for two weeks now. Again, I don't 410 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 2: think i'd picked them to win a series, just because 411 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 2: NBA history tells us that these first time playoff teams 412 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 2: tend to struggle. 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And the thing that happens 455 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,679 Speaker 2: to every star as you go through large samples of 456 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 2: being a number one option is you have bad games. 457 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 2: And from each bad game, you learn a lesson, And 458 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 2: as you get into a point deeper in your career 459 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 2: where you have tons of experience, the bad games are 460 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 2: fewer and further between, and you get better at replicating 461 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 2: your successes. So I don't want to like overdo the 462 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 2: criticism piece of Jalen Brown here, but the one thing 463 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 2: that he's kind of susceptible to, especially against these deep 464 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 2: drop looks, is when the especially when the defenders working 465 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 2: behind him, he can just get a little bit rushed 466 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 2: and a little bit too aggressive in that decision zone 467 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 2: in the middle of the floor, and he can force 468 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 2: a lot of really bad shots, similar to what we 469 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 2: were talking about with Derek White, just being patient, being 470 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 2: more deliberate in that decision zone, getting more selective with 471 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 2: your short range shot making, getting more selective with your 472 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 2: attempts at the rim, being more willing to take kickout 473 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 2: opportunities that are there. That'll go a long way towards 474 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:16,159 Speaker 2: helping him avoid those types of games, I think, especially 475 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 2: on the defensive end, as far as we talk about 476 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 2: with coverages, because you gotta think like they don't have 477 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 2: scheme versatility with their bigs as currently constructed, like vuch 478 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:27,679 Speaker 2: is going to be a deep drop big for the 479 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 2: most part. I mean even when he was going up 480 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 2: to the level, it's just not a coverage that he's 481 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 2: going to be great at because he's not fast, right, 482 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 2: Like Garza is going to be better at that specific coverage, 483 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 2: but he's not going to be as good in drop 484 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 2: because he's not a rim protector, right, And Kaita has 485 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 2: shown some ability to switch, but he's primarily a drop 486 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 2: coverage big. This team doesn't have a lot of scheme 487 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,120 Speaker 2: versatility with their big. So now again, when you're talking 488 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 2: about Jason Tatum's return, that's kind of the thing with 489 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 2: Jason Tatum, right, Like Boston did have scheme versatility without 490 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,400 Speaker 2: Horford who could switch, But for the most part, they 491 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:00,080 Speaker 2: tried to avoid that conundrum alt together by just placing 492 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 2: their center on the other team's worst perimeter shooter and 493 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 2: putting Tatum on the center. 494 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:06,639 Speaker 1: That gives them the ability to switch. 495 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,120 Speaker 2: Ball screens and stay more versatile in their defensive coverages. 496 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 2: So Tatum coming back will help, But as currently constructed, 497 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 2: and we don't know what version of Tatum we're going 498 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 2: to get, there's a version of this where Tatum is 499 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 2: just not feeling physically right to be able to guard centers. Right, 500 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 2: So we'll see how Tatum looks. But the one area 501 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 2: for opportunity for me here is like, this is a team, 502 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 2: especially with LaMelo and Brandon Miller, where like I think 503 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 2: Boston could be more impactful with their ball pressure, getting 504 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:35,120 Speaker 2: more physical into the ball, kind of that playoff physicality 505 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 2: and try to degrade and like basically disintegrate Charlotte's offense 506 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 2: before they actually get into their stuff. With physical ball pressure. 507 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 2: I've seeing Boston be better with that, so I think again, 508 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 2: especially when your bigs are kind of trapped into a 509 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 2: certain coverage until Tatum gets back, Boston's perimeter defense is 510 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 2: just so vitally important to them being able to contain, 511 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:57,640 Speaker 2: and I just didn't think they did a very good 512 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 2: job last night. We're going to go briefly on Thunder Nicks. 513 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 2: I was really really interested in that Hornets game, so 514 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:05,399 Speaker 2: I wanted to hang out there for a while. This 515 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 2: one was a game of runs. The Thunder took a 516 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 2: double digit lead into the first. Into the kind of 517 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,119 Speaker 2: middle portion of the first quarter, Mohammed Dijuara ends up 518 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 2: hitting a couple threes and Lander Shaman hits a little 519 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 2: jumper at the middle that works the knicks back into 520 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 2: it then there from there on, in the early second quarter, 521 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,880 Speaker 2: the Thunder go on their first big run. So it's 522 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 2: this weird group because Shae's on the floor and Jalen 523 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 2: Brunson's off. There was a lot of weird overlap like that, 524 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 2: where like they were not on the floor at the 525 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 2: same time for some portions of the game. In that 526 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 2: early second quarter group, Shay is just absolutely brilliant and 527 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 2: the Thunder go up by thirteen and started with a 528 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 2: couple of drives. He was targeting Jose Alvarado one on one. 529 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 2: He just went right by him a couple of times, 530 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 2: and he missed a layup that Chet came in and 531 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 2: cleaned up with a donkey, and another one where he 532 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 2: drew a second defender and kicked to Jalen Williams in 533 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,199 Speaker 2: the corner who knocked down a three. And so then 534 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 2: the knick started showing on his ball screen. So try 535 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 2: to like contain those drives and keep him from getting 536 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 2: all the way to the rim. And from there, the 537 00:24:56,800 --> 00:25:00,400 Speaker 2: Thunder just methodically picked them apart with good spacing, quick 538 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,640 Speaker 2: decisions out of the short role and out of closeouts, 539 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,159 Speaker 2: and then quality play finishing, similar to what we were 540 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,160 Speaker 2: talking about with Charlotte when it comes to playing advantage basketball. 541 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 2: So those four on three sequences. It's once again the 542 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 2: combination of having the personnel who can actually play the role, 543 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 2: So having the guy in the short role actually be 544 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 2: able to make those decisions, having guys in spot up 545 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 2: situations that can actually hit catch and shoot threes, and 546 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,360 Speaker 2: when they get chased off the line that can make 547 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 2: good decisions as they're driving closeouts. And this once again 548 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 2: is an example of that Oklahoma City always has their 549 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 2: spacing right and every one of their guys are capable 550 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 2: of capitalizing on these situations. Jaywill being able to hit 551 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:40,439 Speaker 2: that corner three right, Aaron Wiggins being athletic enough to 552 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,439 Speaker 2: drive a close out off of the right wing and 553 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 2: get a dunk with two hands, like that's a super 554 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 2: athletic and impressive closeout attack right. Lou Dort hits a 555 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,119 Speaker 2: couple of threes in that stretch. But it's also the 556 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 2: quality spacing, making yourself harder to guard by being in 557 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 2: the right spots, and everybody making the right decisions in 558 00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 2: those sequences. The Thunder execute really well in that early 559 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 2: second quarter. They end up going up by thirteen. The 560 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 2: Knicks worked their way back into the game in the 561 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 2: late third quarter on an extended run and it was 562 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 2: very much fueled by their size and by their defense. 563 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:13,679 Speaker 2: This is a Knicks team that has been among the 564 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:17,640 Speaker 2: best defenses in the league for weeks now, and they 565 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 2: can go on defensive runs where they force turnovers and 566 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,400 Speaker 2: they start to get out and transition, and so in 567 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 2: this stretch, a lot of damage on the offensive glass, 568 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,159 Speaker 2: a lot of damage in transition. Karl Anthony Towns. One 569 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 2: of the kind of schematic things for Oklahoma City is 570 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 2: instead of putting Chet on Cat, they'd put him on 571 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 2: a wing and then they'd put one of their smaller 572 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 2: guys on to Karl Anthony Towns, and so he had 573 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 2: consistent offensive rebound positioning. And we'll talk about that in 574 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 2: a minute, but that's a defensive scheme from Oklahoma City 575 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 2: that's similar to what we talked about with Tatum for Boston, 576 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 2: where they're just trying to force you to play offense 577 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 2: a different way than you typically do. If you're gonna 578 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 2: guard Kat with a big they're just gonna go to 579 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 2: their picking pop stuff with Jalen Brunson and Karl Anthony Towns. 580 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,640 Speaker 2: But if you could shut that off with quick switching, yeah, 581 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 2: you're gonna give Kat some advance under the basket and 582 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 2: he did a lot of damage. He had nine offensive 583 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 2: rebounds in this game. It was a big part of 584 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 2: you know, this is something we've seen with Oklahoma City 585 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 2: consistently over the years, like if you're a big and 586 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:13,120 Speaker 2: skilled player, you can have success against Oklahoma City because 587 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,400 Speaker 2: of how small they are. Right, Kat does a bunch 588 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 2: of damage on the offensive glass, they get out and 589 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 2: transition off of their stops. 590 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 1: They actually work all the way back. 591 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 2: Into the lead, and the Knicks take a four point 592 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 2: lead going into the kind of early portion of the 593 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,640 Speaker 2: fourth quarter. But Chet Holmgren had a nice little response. 594 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 2: He had a couple of tough fadeaways, like a left 595 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:33,719 Speaker 2: shoulder fade into the middle of the lane and then 596 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,919 Speaker 2: a right shoulder fade towards the baseline that ends up 597 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 2: leading to on the third post up a double team 598 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 2: off of ken Rich Williams on the top, Chet throws 599 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 2: a perfect pass to the top. Ken Rich Williams hits 600 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 2: the three that allowed the Thunder to work their way 601 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,959 Speaker 2: back in front, and from there their defense just allowed 602 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,360 Speaker 2: them to stiff arm the Knicks the rest of the way. 603 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 2: There was you know, some consistent things like Shay was 604 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 2: looking to attack Karl Anthony Towns in ball screens. He 605 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 2: was able to draw a couple of fouls on him. 606 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 2: On the other end of the floor, the Knicks were 607 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 2: having some success targeting Shae in screens with og And Andobi. 608 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,360 Speaker 2: Like I've talked about this before, Like this is why 609 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,119 Speaker 2: I think it's absurd when everyone's like, oh, like this 610 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,399 Speaker 2: guy gets attacked on defense. Like almost every star in 611 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,879 Speaker 2: the entire NBA gets attacked on defense, even Shae. And 612 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 2: like Shae was hedging on Jalen Brunton and giving up 613 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,639 Speaker 2: openings og And Andobe. He hit a catch and shoot 614 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,199 Speaker 2: three drove a close out. I think he ended up 615 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 2: picking up a charge on that one. But like there, 616 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 2: that's just kind of basketball. You attacked the other team 617 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 2: star to try to wear him down, and usually the 618 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 2: other team star is not the best defensive player in 619 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 2: the world, right, So, like the Knicks had some success 620 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 2: going at Shae with og And Andobi. Shaye was going 621 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 2: at a cat and ball screens on the other end 622 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 2: of the floor, but they just were able to make 623 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 2: a handful more plays. Shae ends up hitting a huge 624 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 2: step back three over Ognnobi at the top of the 625 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 2: key in Oklahoma City was able to get more stops 626 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 2: and they were able to stiff arm the Knicks and 627 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 2: get out of there with a win. So there are 628 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 2: two thunder concepts that I want to hit on here. 629 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 2: Defensive versatility piece being able to throw out a scheme 630 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 2: like that where like and because here's the thing, like 631 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 2: Check can switch off of Cat too. Like, it's not 632 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 2: like you can't put Chet on Cat and still switch 633 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 2: ball screens. 634 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 1: Of course he can. 635 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 2: But by putting the matchups in kind of a weird 636 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 2: situation like that, it forces the Knicks to do things 637 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 2: that they don't usually do. So you're getting less Cat 638 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 2: pick and pop and more Jalen Brunson targeting guards. But 639 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 2: the problem is Oklahoma City has incredible guard defenders everywhere. 640 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 2: It's funny listening to the broadcast and they're just like, yeah, 641 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 2: here's another great defender, and here's another great defender. And 642 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 2: that's kind of what Oklahoma City does to you. And again, 643 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 2: like you're gonna break them down in certain ways. We 644 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 2: know Oklahoma City can give up threes, we know Oklahoma 645 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 2: City can give up size advantages that can lead to problems, 646 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 2: but they're always playing the bigger picture. Game, and they're 647 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 2: expecting that to work out in their favor in the 648 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 2: long term, and again they found some success those The 649 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 2: hedge and recover stuff with Shay, I think is a 650 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 2: useful thing if they were to run into each other 651 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 2: in a playoff series as an action that they could 652 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 2: look to run. But the bottom line is is the 653 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 2: Thunder have such strong defensive versatility. It makes them extremely 654 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 2: difficult to handle for anybody because of the different ways 655 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 2: that they can choose to guard you. The last paceon 656 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 2: I want to hit on is Shay's pull up three. 657 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 2: So Shae hits his massive pull up three over Og 658 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 2: and Anobi late in the game. He's taken one hundred 659 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 2: and eighty four of them this season, he's hitting thirty 660 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 2: nine percent. So from being a guy that like was 661 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 2: clearly spending years trying to build out this look, you know, 662 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 2: and again it's the same he did it with a 663 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 2: little bit more of a push off against Og, but 664 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 2: like we've seen the same move a million times, right, 665 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 2: Like he kind of opens up his stance towards the 666 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 2: left and he, like Shae kind of does like a 667 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 2: live dribble jab. So like when you think about a 668 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 2: triple threat, you have the ball without without dribbling the 669 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 2: basketball live, you know, you throw a jab step right 670 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 2: to kind of probe the defense. Shaye will do that 671 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 2: with a live dribble where he'll be dribbling with the 672 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 2: basketball and he'll throw jab steps with his feet with 673 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 2: like in and out dribbles. He'll just do that with 674 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 2: an open stance to his left and he'll throw that 675 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 2: little kind of in and out jab into his step 676 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,479 Speaker 2: back three right. And for years he was missing it. 677 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 2: You know, it's suit substantially worse percentages, but it was 678 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 2: like clear that he was trying to build something out 679 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 2: and it's just worked this season and it's added this 680 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,239 Speaker 2: whole additional element to his game. And the reason why 681 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 2: I think that matters is how that kind of late 682 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 2: game sequence went. So despite the fact that the thunder 683 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 2: we're getting lots of stops, the Knicks kept lingering in 684 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 2: that like one to two possession range, and a big 685 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 2: part of that was a couple of Oklahoma City role 686 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 2: players ended up missing threes late in the game. Is 687 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,479 Speaker 2: say Joe misses a three, Loudorp misses a three. They 688 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 2: were able to play into some misses late in the 689 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 2: game by getting the ball out of Shay's hands. When 690 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 2: Shay looks to drive and he gets into the middle 691 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,959 Speaker 2: of the floor, it's a lot easier to double and 692 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 2: only give up some sort of like semi contested rushed three. 693 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 2: But if you start sending double teams out further from 694 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 2: the basket, that's when you can give up the four 695 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 2: on threes and Oklahoma, he's so good with their spacing 696 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 2: they can turn that into dunks a lot of the time. So, like, essentially, 697 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 2: what I'm trying to say is, like you double Shay 698 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 2: twenty five feet from the basket, it's gonna yield more 699 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 2: points per possession than if you double Shay. 700 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 1: Fifteen feet from the basket. 701 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 2: Right, So what's nice about the pull up three is 702 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 2: it gives Shay a method with which to control his 703 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 2: own destiny. There so looks to drive a couple times 704 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 2: late in the game, the Knicks actually successfully get the 705 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 2: ball out of his hands, leads to role players shooting 706 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 2: they miss, Shay goes, fuck it, I'm just gonna go 707 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 2: to my step back three against og Anobi in a 708 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 2: straight one on one situation, and he's able to knock 709 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 2: it down and it effectively is what slams the door 710 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 2: shut on any sort of Knicks comeback and to me, like, 711 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 2: that's just like, again, is it gonna be a thing 712 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:48,239 Speaker 2: that he does an extremely high volume. No, But like 713 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised if in this postseason run, there's 714 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 2: two or three, maybe four games we're late in the 715 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 2: game Shay goes to a pull up three and is 716 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 2: able to build additional separation or close a game out 717 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 2: by having that in his bag in a way in 718 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 2: years past, defenses would have been able to get the 719 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 2: ball out of his hands and force someone else to 720 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 2: beat you. So I think some strong indicators there. Thunder 721 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,720 Speaker 2: e Ben looking really really good since Shay came back, 722 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 2: Shay himself is looking really really good. It's a tough 723 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 2: matchup for the Knicks, specifically because of the way that 724 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 2: when they got into that slowdown half court environment, there's 725 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 2: just more things that Oklahoma City can go to that 726 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 2: can get a quality shot compared to what the Knicks 727 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 2: were able to do. Really really impressive win for the 728 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 2: Thunder on the road against a very very good Knix team. 729 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 2: All right, guys, it's all half for today is always 730 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 2: a sincerely appreciate you guys for supporting us. And supporting 731 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 2: the show. We'll be back tomorrow with a mailbag. I 732 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 2: will see you guys now