1 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: Hey, hey, ba fan, welcome back to the show. 2 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 2: It's been a long time coming. 3 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: I watched way too much K pop demon Hunters and 4 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: now all they want to do is thing. It's been 5 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: a long time coming, but we're back with another Brown Table. 6 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:21,079 Speaker 1: Welcome back, Chris and yon Nelly. It's been too long. 7 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: I missed y'all. I've got a busy busy You've been busy. 8 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 3: Yes, seriously, did y'all both well? 9 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:31,319 Speaker 2: Tell me what's going on? 10 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:33,879 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, an Nellie, you are in like are 11 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: you just still in like the ecstasy of learning that 12 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: the man is going to be Super Bowl legendary performer 13 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: this year. 14 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 3: I have the mandatory concert merch on to you know, 15 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 3: pre celebrations. But yes, it's it's it is happening, and 16 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 3: I'm so excited. Now this is the third time I'm 17 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 3: going to get to experience how I saw him in person. 18 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 3: So I'm with the Amazon thing and now I get 19 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 3: to see him again at the Super Bowl. 20 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 2: I'm not really good game. 21 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 3: No, I'm not even gonna watch a game. I'm just 22 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 3: gonna watch a concert. Like I don't care about the sport. 23 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 3: I care about Benito. But no, I'm so excited, especially 24 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 3: because he just is Saturday Night Live over the weekend. 25 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:17,119 Speaker 3: It was so good, so good. Did you see Mandy 26 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 3: the sketch on the K Pop Girls the Hunter. 27 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 1: K Yeah, that's the thing I saw so far. 28 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 3: Oh my god, there's so many good ones. There were 29 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 3: a couple that were kind of corny and some that 30 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 3: were so niche that you won't get it unless you 31 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 3: grew up in a Latino household. But I thought that 32 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 3: they did a good job. 33 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 1: But isn't that I think Bad Bunny is like such 34 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 1: a good example of how just be exactly as niche 35 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: and like exclusionary as your personality is, like as specific 36 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: as you can be, and how I don't know what 37 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: is it about it that, like I don't know half 38 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: the stuff that he says in his music, maybe more 39 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: than half, but like I still love and adore him, 40 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: and I bet I watched that sketch and crack up. 41 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: But there's just something about someone who's being so authentic 42 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: that is so electrifying and just makes you like love them. 43 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's it's cross cultural because even though the 44 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 3: cultural references might be niche and specific, there's everybody's culture 45 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 3: has those things, So you could imagine like what it 46 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 3: is for your people, even if it's not exactly what 47 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 3: he's doing or saying, so it's it's relatable. Even if 48 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:22,079 Speaker 3: you don't necessarily get it get it, you still get it, 49 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 3: you know. I think people really just love that. And 50 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 3: everybody wants that for him for themselves. Everybody wants to 51 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 3: be able to just be their full authentic self and 52 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 3: not have to turn on and off or tune it 53 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 3: up or down, like just be you. And so the 54 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:34,959 Speaker 3: fact that he gets to do it and gets to 55 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:37,839 Speaker 3: be celebrated and just success after success comes to him, 56 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 3: it's like, damn, it just feels so damn good. Yeah. 57 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I mean that's the thing, like you don't 58 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:47,079 Speaker 4: have to experience someone an exact like life and how 59 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 4: they grew up to appreciate it or to find the 60 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 4: humor in it. I mean, that was the best part 61 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 4: about growing up for me. Like all my friends get 62 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 4: from different backgrounds, different homes, families, some families or immigrants, 63 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 4: some grew up here for generations, and you just learn 64 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 4: what they what they air, family does, how they party, 65 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 4: how they eat, the things they do, the jokes they have, 66 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 4: and that's just part of it. To me. That's part 67 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 4: about being an American is getting to meet all these different 68 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 4: people with different cultures, and you incorporate things, you learn, 69 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 4: you join and be a part of it, and that's 70 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 4: what makes it great. He's getting to do those things, 71 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:18,519 Speaker 4: and I don't know, I appreciate it. I mean, that's that's. 72 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: It's kind of giving lib tard energy, which recent reviewer 73 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: of the podcast just said, this is podcast run by 74 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:29,079 Speaker 1: a bunch of libtards. Oh oh, Chris, you're not helping 75 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: me out. 76 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 4: I'm so sorry. I lost my saying it there. 77 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 3: For that person who wrote that comment, they might not 78 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 3: know that what Chris was referring to as being proud 79 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 3: to be Americans includes bad Bunny, he is American. Puerto 80 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 3: Ricans are American. Okay, if that makes me a libtard 81 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 3: to have to announce that for you, who probably doesn't 82 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 3: know it and left that stupid comment, it's just for you, Okay. 83 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: There's something so juicy and scrumptious about how pissed off 84 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: so much of America is by this man getting the gig. 85 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, no sense. Post of all the people who performed 86 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 4: in the Super Bowl, there's been so many people who 87 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 4: performed the super Bowl who are not American at all, 88 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 4: and no one said anything, And it's like, now you 89 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 4: have someone who actually is and it's like, what do 90 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 4: you have to complain about? Just go too the music 91 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 4: and enjoy It'll be quiet. 92 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:16,359 Speaker 3: Yep yep. Well, you know, we're in the middle of 93 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 3: trying to try our hardest to get rid of so 94 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:20,919 Speaker 3: many people who look and sound just like him. So 95 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 3: I think that it just it brought to people the 96 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 3: wrong way for that reason. It doesn't make sense in 97 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 3: their mind. It's like an oxymoron. How can we be 98 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 3: getting rid of them and then celebrating them on the 99 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:32,359 Speaker 3: main stage at our biggest sport, Like what? It doesn't 100 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 3: make sense? And so I think that that's why people 101 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 3: got rubbed the wrong way. They're genuinely confused and conflicted. 102 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 3: But that sounds like a personal problem to me. I'm 103 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 3: gonna be eating my pitos and dancing, drinking goquito and 104 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 3: singing lyric after lyric of bad Bunny songs every single 105 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:47,479 Speaker 3: song in the performance. And I hope he doesn't speak 106 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 3: a lit of English. 107 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 2: I don't think he will. 108 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: He had a little tiny part in the Shakira j 109 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: Lo performance on Themver forget he had that aluminum foil 110 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:58,919 Speaker 1: outfit and like a healthy. 111 00:04:58,720 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 2: Rag bad bunny. 112 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: Isn't that so the American story right now? Like the 113 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: polar sides of what's happening, Like we have bad Bunny 114 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 1: at the super Bowl, and then we have still ice raids, 115 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 1: Like have you all heard about what's. 116 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 2: Going on in Chicago right now? 117 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 3: It's terrible. I mean, I have two nieces and nephews 118 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 3: who I saw over the weekend when I went to 119 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 3: celebrate my brother's birthday in New York, and I said 120 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 3: to them, like I said, you're growing up in a 121 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 3: time where you're actually witnessing that it's more of these 122 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 3: divided states of America than it is united And if 123 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 3: you're really confused about it, you're not alone. And like 124 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 3: I wanted to just encourage them to start just to 125 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:36,279 Speaker 3: talk more about it, ask questions, because like I just 126 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 3: cannot imagine being ten eleven years old at a time 127 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 3: like this, Like I just I'm like, dang, when I 128 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,359 Speaker 3: was a preteen teenager, like that's when I started to 129 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 3: see a shift. And obviously when I was at eighteen 130 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:49,159 Speaker 3: and I got to vote in my first election, it 131 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:51,919 Speaker 3: was me voting for Obama and eight, Like, I just 132 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:54,359 Speaker 3: have such a different recollection of being a young like 133 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 3: coming of age in America, and now to see it 134 00:05:57,279 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 3: feel like we're kind of going backwards in some ways. 135 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 3: I just like felt so much pain for them. I 136 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 3: wanted them to be like, it's okay if you feel 137 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 3: confused or if you see things that don't quite make sense, 138 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 3: like let's talk about it. But yeah, just I don't 139 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:10,239 Speaker 3: know how y'all do it with these kids. Y'all mommies 140 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 3: and daddy's like, it's half as hard to have some 141 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 3: of those conversations. It really is. 142 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 2: I think you got to know your kids. 143 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: And like my five year old, I've realized I can 144 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: challenge him with some difficult what my what I perceive 145 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: is like difficult concepts, Like I explained to him why 146 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: we don't shop a Target anymore, and why we do 147 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: shop some places but not others. And I even he 148 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 1: loves Tesla's and he loves that that ugly cyber truck 149 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: for him, it looks like the coolest like a toy. 150 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,799 Speaker 1: Yeah right, And he's like, but I love cyber trucks. 151 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: And I was like explaining, why you know, Elon Musk 152 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: because he even knows Elon Musk like by name, and 153 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: you know, explaining in some of the bad things that 154 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: Elon Musk has done, and he's like, I love it 155 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 1: because I think people are afraid of confusing or stressing 156 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: them out. But I can see him like realizing it's 157 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 1: okay to like this thing, but to understand, like to 158 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 1: think critically about like who's behind it, and like they 159 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: can do some you know, bad things and we cannot 160 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: support that, but we can like this thing and do 161 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: y'all remember, like I feel like the big when I 162 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: like arrived at my political consciousness, I was about thirteen. 163 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: It was during the Bush Gore election of two thousand, 164 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: because it was like the thing, you know, of course, 165 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: like I'm in US history class and like the teachers 166 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: talking about it, and then I just remember my parents 167 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: never really talking about it other than well and my 168 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 1: comform my republic My mom's side the family is very Republican, 169 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: so it was just like, well, Bush is the winner, 170 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: and that's that. There was no there was no we 171 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,239 Speaker 1: weren't like I wasn't one of those families that would 172 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: like have conversations about it, as if there was choices 173 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: and decisions. 174 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 2: To be made about it. 175 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: It was just like, well that's what we do, you know, 176 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: And I feel like, at least in this house now, 177 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: I want in my family now, I want to have 178 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: I want to like have those kinds of conversations and teach. 179 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: It just took me way too long to learn how 180 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 1: to like think critically about what I was being fed 181 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: by my own, you know, family. But I think today's 182 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: teenagers are built different different, oh for sure. 183 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 3: I mean they have social media at their fingertips and 184 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 3: we didn't have that. 185 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 2: Like I I grew up. 186 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 3: In a home that was not political at all, Like 187 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 3: my parents didn't really they didn't have the privilege to 188 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 3: participate until much later when my mom actually became a citizen. 189 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 3: And my dad, even though he had the right to vote, 190 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 3: he didn't really exercise it. So we never talked about 191 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 3: politics at all. It wasn't even a conversation. Like when 192 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 3: there was a presidential election. Sometimes, like for homework, I 193 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 3: would have to watch the debate and like answer questions 194 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 3: about it, and my dad would get annoyed at me 195 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:47,199 Speaker 3: because I would make him change the channel when he 196 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 3: was watching only Viso on Telemundo and like, and I 197 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 3: would have to be like that I have to watch 198 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:52,559 Speaker 3: it like that have to watch the election because I 199 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 3: have to answer questions that he would get annoyed. So 200 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 3: it wasn't the kind of thing that I was. It 201 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 3: was top of mind to me until I like graduated 202 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 3: high school. Once I went off college, then I started 203 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 3: thinking about it on my own. But I feel like 204 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 3: that's not really the case for so many American families. Now. 205 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 3: It's not like you can choose you're talking about it 206 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 3: because it's everywhere, and a lot of these teenagers and 207 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 3: even preteens, Like my niece is eleven, she about to 208 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 3: be twelves. She's uses TikTok better than me, and she 209 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 3: knows what's going on. She's very, very aware. So it's like, 210 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 3: even if you're not talking to them about it, trust 211 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:25,079 Speaker 3: they are still being exposed to it. 212 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:30,559 Speaker 1: Rio managed to post a TikTok on my account yesterday, y'all. 213 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: It's never been on TikTok before other than watching it. 214 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:36,559 Speaker 1: He thought it was the most hilarious thing ever. 215 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 4: What was the video? What did you post? 216 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 1: It was just somehow He had a song behind it too. 217 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:44,839 Speaker 1: It was just him and I thought we were read 218 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:48,079 Speaker 1: We were reading books together and he caught me slipping when 219 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: I went to the bathroom. When I come back, and 220 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 1: you know, he's posted this thing and it's just him 221 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: staring at the screen giggling. 222 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 2: That's all it is. 223 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,319 Speaker 3: That's all it is. Figured it out, you see what 224 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 3: I'm saying. They figure it out. They know how to 225 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 3: use these. It's it's a different, I think experience around 226 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 3: you know, media is it's so different because it's a 227 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 3: media's instance right on their hand. It's in their hands. 228 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 3: Like we had a harder time accessing media. And of 229 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 3: course I feel like, at least back then it was 230 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 3: a little bit less biased. Like I feel like, no 231 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:19,959 Speaker 3: matter what source you get your news from, it's heavily biased. Nowadays, 232 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 3: it's really hard for me to find on biased sources 233 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:25,839 Speaker 3: of news information. And so I yeah, anybody kind of. 234 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:30,079 Speaker 1: Like anybody can go on the internet. It's the most 235 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: democratic thing we have. 236 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 3: Now, I have a mic. Why do I have a mike? 237 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 3: I got them they give me a mic, so clearly clearly. 238 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:38,679 Speaker 1: Oh well, I don't think it's I think it's more 239 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 1: important than ever for people like us to be on 240 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 1: the MIC. 241 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 2: I need it more than ever actually. 242 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 1: Because as of like five six days ago when the 243 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: government shut down. Mama is the sole income earner of 244 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 1: this household because my husband he has been going to 245 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:59,199 Speaker 1: work with no pay ever since the shutdown. We've been 246 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 1: here before, because in twenty nineteen, I remember that was 247 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: like a well, we had no kids then, so that 248 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: wasn't as stressful. But in the fall of twenty nineteen, 249 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: there was another shutdown that was the longest one. I 250 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: think it was like thirty days or something. 251 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:13,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, thirty five maybe, so, because. 252 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: He works in public safety for the Department of Justice, yeah, 253 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:19,079 Speaker 1: he has to. Still he still goes to work business 254 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 1: as usual with no pay. 255 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 3: So yeah, it's so hard. I mean, at least you 256 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 3: know that he'll be back paid at some point. It's 257 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 3: just it's just an uncomfortable happened though. 258 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 2: Confidence in that I don't, I genuinely don't. 259 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: I mean I have, you know, I keep hearing the 260 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 1: I think the Democrats they're very like on the same 261 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: message about why you know, they refuse to pass the 262 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 1: continuing resolution like that would fund, you know, patch the government. 263 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: I feel like the budget that we have in America 264 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: has is literally just a series of patches. 265 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 2: It's just like get us. 266 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 1: Through to the next six months, the next what ever 267 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 1: get us through this? 268 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 2: That's all it is. 269 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 3: Are you American? 270 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 1: It's like kicking the can down the road, but this patch, 271 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:12,439 Speaker 1: you know, at least the way it is now, Democrats 272 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: have been really focusing on healthcare as a central issue. 273 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: You know, millions of people their premiums if you use Obamacare, 274 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 1: they expire at the end of this year. And that's 275 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:26,599 Speaker 1: been like the hill that Democrats are you know, I 276 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:28,199 Speaker 1: don't know, Okay, they're not going to die on this 277 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: hill literally, but like they are putting their eggs in 278 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: this one basket of like the America will understand because 279 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:39,439 Speaker 1: it's about health care and these benefits. Does that resonate 280 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:42,079 Speaker 1: with y'all? Does that move? 281 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 3: I mean, it doesn't. It doesn't. It doesn't. It doesn't. 282 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 3: Like I feel like if it's if we think back 283 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 3: to what was the number one thing that pushed people 284 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 3: towards supporting an administration like the one that we have 285 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 3: right now, it was a lot of people talking about 286 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 3: yet like the economy and the economic situation that they 287 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 3: find themselves in. And unfortunately, I don't feel like a 288 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 3: lot of people understand what a huge part of your 289 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 3: economic situation healthcare costs are because it doesn't really kick 290 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 3: in until it kicks in or until you need it, 291 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 3: or until you know you get that fat medical bill. 292 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 3: And so because it's not an everyday thing like the groceries, 293 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:27,079 Speaker 3: like housing, you know, those things that are immediate in 294 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 3: every single day and top of mind for families that 295 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 3: cause the most stress. Healthcare, unfortunately, is just not one 296 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 3: of those big three or four things. And so I 297 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 3: don't know if it's landing. It's hard for me to 298 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 3: say because I'm one of those privileged people who's covered 299 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 3: by insurance through the work, not my work, but my 300 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:46,679 Speaker 3: partner's work, and so it's hard. But I completely understand 301 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 3: why it matters, and I'm like touting it and reposting 302 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 3: the articles and saying, this is huge. Imagine if your 303 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 3: medical cost goal one day from four hundred dollars a 304 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 3: month to eight hundred and fifty dollars a month, Like, 305 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 3: think about that. That's insane. And for this to happen 306 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 3: to tens of millions of people overnight. We can prevent it. 307 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 3: But I from just what I'm seeing and hearing around me, 308 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 3: I just feel like it's not hitting people, it's not 309 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 3: gutting people the way I think it should for them 310 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 3: to actually be able to be like, oh, this is 311 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,679 Speaker 3: why the Democrats are making you know this stand. 312 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's one of those things where you see things 313 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 4: like gas prices and egg prices get people up in 314 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 4: arms because it's very visible. Right, gas stations are on 315 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 4: every corner you go in the grocery store, you're going 316 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 4: to see the egg prices and it's like in your face. 317 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 4: But things like this are so kind of like abstract 318 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 4: because like, it won't happen immediately, right, It'll be like 319 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 4: when you renew for the next year, and it's kind 320 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 4: of like out in the distance and you don't think 321 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 4: about how it could change because you don't know exactly 322 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 4: how it's going to change until it happens. And it's 323 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 4: one of those things where it's like it's sometimes it 324 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 4: is hard to get people to care about things that 325 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 4: you they're a little difficult to understand and grasp. But 326 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 4: it's one of those things where you will understand it 327 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 4: and once it hits you and now you're dealing with 328 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 4: these higher prices. 329 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, or you won't understand it because let's be real, 330 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 3: it's designed in a way to confuse the shit out 331 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 3: of us. It's like, oh, you got premiums, you got deductibles, 332 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 3: you got out of pocket, Max, you got I mean, 333 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 3: just the fact of healthcare in and of itself being 334 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 3: so complex, overly complex for no freaking reason, is one 335 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 3: big reason why it's just very nebulous. It just becomes 336 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 3: this giant question mark in people's heads of Like, first 337 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 3: of all, I don't really understand healthcare, and so now 338 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 3: you're trying to tell me that healthcare should be the 339 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 3: main concern when it's something that is a giant question 340 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 3: mark in my mind, it's like doubly offense, Like it's 341 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 3: a double offense. So I personally just thinks it's really 342 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 3: a tough situation that we're in right now. I'm hopeful 343 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 3: that things will work, but it's hard to say. I mean, 344 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 3: I'm seeing so many people not get it. You know. 345 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 3: Like I went into my family chat the other day 346 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 3: and I was like, guys, like, you know, if you're 347 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 3: confused at all about this, I just wanted to share 348 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 3: this quick post. I shared a short article and my 349 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 3: take on it, and then I said, there's two people 350 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 3: in my immediate family, my younger brother who's in the 351 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 3: Air Force, and my other younger brother who's in the army, 352 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 3: who are both going to have to show up every 353 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 3: day business as usual and not get paid until this 354 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 3: is lifted. And if we need to like create a 355 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 3: family collection or something like that, like I'm happy to 356 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 3: organize it. I don't know these boys situations. They're in 357 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 3: their twenties, they probably don't got no damn money and 358 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 3: they still have to keep paying you know, their their bills. 359 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 3: So I was like, hey, like we should pay attention 360 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 3: to this. Crickets y'all crickets in the group chat. So 361 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 3: I don't know what's up. Like it feels like people 362 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 3: are just not connecting to what's happening right now. 363 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: Maybe they just there's so much to be outraged about 364 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: that the result is like that sense of analysis paralysis, 365 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 1: or like I can understand how I can feel like 366 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: should I be outraged and put my funds through you know, 367 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: to that or like through this. And I think a 368 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: lot of people are just in survival mode, you know. 369 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 1: I wish there was something in this freakin budget that 370 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: I wish. I wish what I heard was like Democrats were, 371 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: you know, not going to vote this through until there's 372 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: you know, some sort of relief for the long term unemployed, 373 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: because I'm honestly, I'm terrified for the number of workers 374 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: that are out here who have been looking for work 375 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: for months and not being able to find it. And 376 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: what terrifies me more is, you know, and I understand 377 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 1: my data is very skewed. The vast majority of the 378 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 1: people who I talk to, you know, in my work 379 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: are women of color, but so many of them are 380 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 1: doing everything right and still unable to find full time work. 381 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: And the data is starting to back this up now, 382 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:29,719 Speaker 1: so they consider the BLS considers Labor Department rather just 383 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: they consider long term employment to be anything past six months, 384 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 1: and right now there's a surge in the long term unemployed. 385 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 1: It's the highest level it's been since twenty twenty one. 386 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 1: And we can't even really get the real up to 387 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: date numbers on the number of jobs that are being 388 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 1: created or not created because of this freakin shutdown, which 389 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: has resulted in the Department of Labor like not being 390 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: able to release the monthly Jobs Report, which you know, 391 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 1: it's a huge economic indicator. It's what the FED uses 392 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:04,880 Speaker 1: to decide. It's one of the biggest, you know, data 393 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 1: points the FED uses to decide what's going to happen 394 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 1: to rates. 395 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 2: But yeah, I just I'm. 396 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: Really freaking worried, and I think this, I think we're 397 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 1: in a situation. It just reminds me of like COVID 398 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: almost where the financial strain is so widespread and the 399 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:24,679 Speaker 1: challengers are so widespread, Like, can we get some relief 400 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: for people? Can we extend can we get like extensions 401 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:31,719 Speaker 1: for unemployment benefits for people who don't have health insurance? 402 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: You know, like, can we get some sort of relief 403 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 1: because it's hard as hell out here right now? 404 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 3: Girl? I know people personally. I have two black male 405 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 3: friends unemployed since earlier this year, one black woman friend 406 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 3: who's been unemployed since the beginning of the summer, Latino 407 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 3: and an Asian woman, all very close near to your people, 408 00:18:56,720 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 3: either family or friends. And I mean it's talk about 409 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:05,120 Speaker 3: like January of this year finding out that your position 410 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 3: is no longer a thing, and it's about to be. 411 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 3: It's oct toal, We're about to be November, holidays are 412 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 3: coming up, it's January again real soon, And I mean 413 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 3: being without a job for an entire year, even when 414 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 3: you do everything right. According to personal financial literacy experts, 415 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 3: who tell you to have three to six months nine 416 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 3: months of university savings fund even doing all of that, 417 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 3: which let's be real, most people don't have the opportunity 418 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 3: to have six to nine months set aside. But let's 419 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 3: say you do. Let's say you're the small percentage people 420 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:36,360 Speaker 3: that did. It's still not enough because now you're going 421 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 3: into eleven month, twelve months, thirteen months of unemployment and 422 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 3: that emergency savings is gone, and you and like, what 423 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:43,919 Speaker 3: are we doing? What are we We're not really talking 424 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 3: about it. So I feel like your point, Mandy is 425 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 3: spot on, because this is a point in time where 426 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:50,360 Speaker 3: I feel like the most people that I could list 427 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 3: off the top of my head that this is directly affecting, 428 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 3: which means the statistics are starting to back it up. 429 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 3: It's very rare that I would, you know, personally touch 430 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 3: and connect with people. So many people being affected and 431 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,959 Speaker 3: very different you know, walks of life, different locations, different 432 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 3: all being affected in that way. So I completely wholeheartedly 433 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 3: second at. 434 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 2: Thanks for sharing that. 435 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 1: I'm running out of things to say, Like all the advice, 436 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 1: all the strategies, they just are meaningless when companies are 437 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 1: simply not hiring and the jobs are simply not there, 438 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 1: you know, even jobs that are there, they all feel 439 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 1: like ghost jobs. You know, people sending in dozens of 440 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:28,360 Speaker 1: applications and all that and not not hearing anything back. 441 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 1: I think I've worked with two women now for twelve weeks, 442 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 1: one on one, incredibly like talented, currently employed, looking for 443 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 1: new work, and nothing has panned out. I think, you know, 444 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:42,160 Speaker 1: over that twelve week so and that's for something. Those 445 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:45,199 Speaker 1: were for people who are like currently working. It's just 446 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: I don't have any there's no like simple answers. 447 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, And even situations where like I know one person 448 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:54,640 Speaker 3: who got a job offer and it was a kind 449 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,959 Speaker 3: of medical devices company or something like that, and then 450 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 3: was offered verbally and everything like that was like okay, cool. 451 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 3: The next week nothing happened, but like, oh, we're going 452 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 3: to reach back out to you to get all the paperwork. 453 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 3: Another week. So they go reaching back out to the 454 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 3: person the recruiter like, hey, like they told me, I 455 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 3: got it, they gave me a salary and everything they 456 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 3: told me, and then having heard from them, it's been seven, eight, nine, ten, twelve, 457 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 3: fourteen days and come to find out eventually they contact 458 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:24,239 Speaker 3: back and say, oh, you know unfortunately the position is 459 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:29,400 Speaker 3: just like on pause right now, Like what I imagine, 460 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 3: I just can't after being unemployed for nine ten months, 461 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:33,959 Speaker 3: and then you finally get something and it's like a 462 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 3: huge sense of relief and then that like it's just 463 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 3: oh my gosh, kick the while they're down, like what 464 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 3: is going on right now? 465 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 4: And it's like in the mental toll right Like it 466 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,640 Speaker 4: was one thing, like the financial stress you're under when 467 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 4: you have to, you know, go without income for that long, 468 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 4: but then mentally it's hard to even keep yourself motivated 469 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 4: and want to keep going. I have a friend similar 470 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 4: what you're saying, La, where it's like he's been out 471 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:57,400 Speaker 4: since he got laid off last year and he's been 472 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 4: on the hunt and he basically it was like like 473 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 4: the worst possible time to get late because it was 474 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 4: like right at the start of all of this, so 475 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 4: he kind of like got in at the early stage 476 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 4: of all this. It has to see the job marre. 477 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:08,439 Speaker 4: You get worse and worse and worse, but then still 478 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 4: be like I'm going to wake up today, I'm going 479 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 4: to keep applying for jobs, and it's just it's just 480 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 4: hard mentally to keep yourself in the game. I don't 481 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 4: blame anybody who's feeling like defeated, because it's like, what, 482 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 4: who wouldn't under these circumstances. 483 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:23,199 Speaker 1: It's almost like, don't I almost wanted to start saying, 484 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 1: don't wait to find a part like a temporary part 485 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: time position anywhere, Like, don't wait to go out and 486 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 1: look for that that bridge opportunity, even if it's not 487 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 1: in you know, even if you're way overqualified and you 488 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 1: you know you you need to take some part time 489 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 1: work at a at a grocery store in retail, you know, 490 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:49,360 Speaker 1: in the hospitality business and healthcare, like anything that can 491 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: provide some income to weather the storm. It's not the 492 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 1: it's not what you want to be saying to people. 493 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 1: It's not like doesn't make me feel good to say, 494 00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 1: but I think that's just the reality that we're in. 495 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 1: It's like I don't want people to I don't want 496 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:05,719 Speaker 1: people to like rely on false hope of like or 497 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:09,640 Speaker 1: that sense of like, well, I'm doing everything right. I 498 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 1: have these qualifications, I should qualify for these roles. I 499 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 1: should be able to find my next role. And then 500 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 1: weeks and months go by and you're maybe you're living 501 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,679 Speaker 1: off of credit cards, you're blowing through your savings and 502 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 1: you're not replenishing them, and you're going to end up 503 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:28,479 Speaker 1: in an even more dire financial situation. And yeah, and 504 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 1: to have like to Chris's point too, that can like 505 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:32,640 Speaker 1: do a number on your mental health when you feel 506 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 1: like you're not like you're undervalued, you're underemployed. But I 507 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 1: think at the same time, it's like it's shifting the 508 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,439 Speaker 1: perspective to like, this is a really unprecedented time in 509 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 1: the economy. Things are going to have to temporarily be 510 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: this way. It doesn't mean that you can't get back 511 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,719 Speaker 1: on the path that you were on. When you know 512 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: this the clouds start to part. But yeah, I get 513 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,120 Speaker 1: really concerned when I when I hear about people who 514 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 1: are relying on debt credit cards to float them by 515 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: and blowing through their savings, because there's going to be 516 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 1: an end to that. 517 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 2: To your point on LA. 518 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely. I'll say one thing. Two of my friends 519 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 3: personal connections that I have, I recently said to them, Hey, 520 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:14,919 Speaker 3: I mean I see that it's been a while and 521 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 3: things are getting more frustrating. Granted I have, like my 522 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 3: background is in teaching and education, but even if your 523 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 3: background is not in education or teaching. If you can 524 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 3: stand children even a little bit, if you can stand them, 525 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 3: if you can, if you can, if you enjoy children, 526 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 3: or even just be the presence around kids, like, being 527 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 3: a substitute teacher is a really good bridge. I think 528 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 3: not enough people consider it, and I've recently told two 529 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 3: of my friends, bro, all you have to do is 530 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 3: put an applications, be able to pass the background check 531 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:49,120 Speaker 3: if certain things that are like pretty much typical positions 532 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 3: that pay decent salary would require of you anyway. So 533 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 3: if you can get through those hoops, you can start 534 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 3: working fairly quickly. Because school districts right now are in 535 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 3: desperate need a lot of teacher. They had a mass 536 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 3: exodus from COVID, and surely after COVID a lot of 537 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 3: teachers exiting, and there's a lot of understaffing in districts 538 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 3: in school So if you're if you're willing to be 539 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 3: a sub is great because first of all, the hiring 540 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,479 Speaker 3: process is fairly quick if you can pass the back 541 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 3: on check. Second of all, pay for the kids. I mean, 542 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 3: I mean, if you're a good person. Okay, this is 543 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 3: only for the good people listening who like kids, like 544 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 3: I said, But the reason why I mentioned it. 545 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 1: Is because body to watch these little headlans. 546 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 3: That's not how I meant it, But you're right. But 547 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,159 Speaker 3: it's more so the flexibility, Like if you're a sub 548 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 3: you can literally pick the shifts the morning of. So 549 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 3: let's say, for example, you have to you have to 550 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 3: go and interview, you have a couple of interviews for 551 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 3: real jobs today and you can't. Great, just don't pick 552 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 3: up the hours in the app like it's it's actually 553 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 3: very flexible so that you can continue to like put 554 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 3: all of your energy into finding a new position while 555 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,879 Speaker 3: getting paid probably I don't know, maybe like one hundred 556 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 3: two hundred dollars a day every shift that you pick 557 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 3: up to teach. But it's again flexibility, pretty easy to start, 558 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 3: and it actually doesn't look bad on a resume, Like 559 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 3: imagine you're on a you're looking at someone's resume, there's 560 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 3: a period of time where they decided to give back 561 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 3: to the community and work with children at the local 562 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 3: school like that that makes you look good. That doesn't 563 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 3: actually look bad. So I personally would vouch for substitute 564 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,160 Speaker 3: teaching as a really great bridge. If you or someone 565 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 3: you know who's listening is in that self position. I've 566 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 3: given this advice to two people recently. One of them 567 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 3: already took my advice on it, the other one, I'm 568 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 3: not sure, but hey, it's a great bridge to Mandy's point. 569 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 1: Hey, ba fam, we're gonna take a quick break, pay 570 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 1: some bills, and we'll be right back. 571 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, Jed, hold on, I didn't know how Wait, so 572 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:41,160 Speaker 4: how are these videos working? 573 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 1: You just you just make videos of music and then 574 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 1: you put them on YouTube, and then you know, people 575 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 1: search for music apparently to listen to on YouTube, and uh, 576 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,639 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, you become a jillionaire. 577 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 2: Obviously. 578 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:57,159 Speaker 4: Why don't I know about this? I should have been 579 00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 4: doing these years. 580 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 1: No, you shouldn't have because honestly, recently Youtubo just stop it. 581 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 1: You're doing your Sleepy Sounds podcast right like you your 582 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 1: your business and. 583 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 4: What it's called. But yeah, you in the ballpark. 584 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 1: But YouTube's cracking down on AI generated stuff. 585 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 2: There was this fast. 586 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 1: I didn't put it on the run of show because 587 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 1: I forgot, but I remember one of the recent episodes 588 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 1: of The Daily was about how tech has you know, 589 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,919 Speaker 1: tech single handedly like went through the education education system 590 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,640 Speaker 1: and the last like fifteen years and was like every 591 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 1: all the kids would learn how to code and they'll 592 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,399 Speaker 1: have these, you know, one hundred thousand dollars six figure 593 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,479 Speaker 1: jobs in tech. And how there's this gap now because 594 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:45,440 Speaker 1: recent graduates who followed that advice and studied computer programming 595 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 1: and software engineering entry level stuff are graduating into a 596 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,639 Speaker 1: job market where the entry level work for them has 597 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 1: been replaced by AI, and there's they're not they're not 598 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 1: finding work after they sort of did the right thing. 599 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 1: And it's you know, I feel for that weird like 600 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 1: pocket of people because I think now, if you're in 601 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:07,120 Speaker 1: college and you're paying. 602 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,360 Speaker 2: Attention, you're switching. 603 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 1: Your major, you're being more you know, you're you're studying AI, 604 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:13,919 Speaker 1: you're getting the train that you need to have to 605 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:15,919 Speaker 1: come into the job market at a higher level. But 606 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 1: for those people who, you know, did it the right way, 607 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 1: did what did what the big tech bros said, They're 608 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 1: they're coming up short. They're having a real hard time 609 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 1: just getting entry level stuff, even internships. 610 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, that sucks, that really sucks. It's just like the 611 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 3: word future ready, just the definition of being future ready 612 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 3: changes every two to five years. It's impossible to I 613 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 3: feel bad for young people. It's like, but I will 614 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 3: say something that I did that I would always recommend 615 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 3: is focusing on soft skills and not just these hard 616 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 3: skills that you need these technical skills. Because soft skills 617 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 3: like presentation skills, communication skills, your ability to like you know, 618 00:28:55,840 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 3: be convincing, negotiation skills, adaptability and flexibility, team work, being 619 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 3: able to be the person that everybody wants to work with. 620 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 3: Those things will take you so much further than any 621 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 3: one hard skill that you have, like coding, because coding 622 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 3: will in five years be done by an AI. But 623 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 3: an AI cannot be the best team on a team, 624 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 3: the teammate on a team. The AI cannot be flexible 625 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 3: and adaptable when things happen that it's not been inputed 626 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 3: into that AI, like you as a human, have this advantage, 627 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 3: which is the soft skills that computer systems just cannot do. 628 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 3: So never completely stop focusing on soft skills, even when 629 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 3: you are putting your focus on like future ready tech 630 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 3: skills and hard skills, because that balance is so important 631 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 3: to have someone both. 632 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 4: That's so true. It's I think we discount those those 633 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 4: little things, but that make you a valuable person in 634 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 4: the company or an organization because yeah, a lot of 635 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 4: people don't pick up those skills. I remember I got it, Like, 636 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 4: you don't tell that in school. I didn't learn that 637 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 4: in school. It came from like being in work, being 638 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 4: forced to like interact and talk with people and talking 639 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 4: meetings and present things. That's when you're like, you're forced 640 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 4: to learn those skills. You forced to learn it or 641 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 4: just to fail while you're trying to do it. It's 642 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 4: like those are the two options. 643 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 3: Exactly. You want to get paid, you better do this 644 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 3: team presentation. 645 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 1: Oh my god, doing a deck. I could not think 646 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 1: of something anything worse that I am like have the 647 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 1: soul little patience for. And again I'm not really talking 648 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 1: myself into being very qualified for many corporate roles today. 649 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 2: But I can't stand it. 650 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 3: Girl, this is hilarious. TikTok. I've decend it to you 651 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 3: as a guy who's like, why didn't they tell me 652 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 3: that my life was going to be about decks? Making 653 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 3: the deck, sharing the deck, discussing the deck. What version 654 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 3: of the deck are we on? Is like, I didn't 655 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 3: know this is what's going to be. Adulthood is all 656 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 3: about the damn decks. And I was like, he's not wrong. 657 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 1: He's not really so right though. Feeling future proof, I 658 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 1: don't know that I'm future proof. 659 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 2: Chris. 660 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 1: Do you feel future proof what you study? You know, 661 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 1: financial stuff though, I. 662 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 4: Study personal finance. But but you think about even the word 663 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 4: of person to find its how much. 664 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 2: Has changed finance? You could do that. 665 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 3: That was to say you could study personal finance. 666 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 4: Yeah. So my randomly I went to school as an 667 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 4: art major and I just lucked out and picked the school. 668 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 4: I went to cal State Fulach and they had like 669 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 4: one of the biggest business programs in California. It just 670 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 4: lucked out. And so when I switched my major to finance, 671 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 4: their business school had you can either go corporate finance 672 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 4: or you could go financial planning. And so my degrees 673 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 4: in finance, but I had a concentration in financial planning. 674 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 4: So that's where my that's where I got my degree in. 675 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 4: But I mean the world has changed. I mean I 676 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 4: graduated what sixteen years ago? The world has changed so 677 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 4: much from then until now? 678 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 1: Possible because I only graduated five years ago. 679 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, exactly, you just graduated yesterday, right, Every twenty 680 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 4: third birthday, I. 681 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 3: Want to talk about that. I have my fifteen year 682 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 3: college reunion in twenty twenty six. 683 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 2: So are you going? 684 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 3: I am going. I'm excited to go. I don't think I. 685 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 1: Arly organized class from my high school or college because 686 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 1: I don't get nowhere's nowhere. 687 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 3: I The only reason I know is because I follow 688 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 3: a group on social media like Instagram that's like the 689 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 3: graduating class. So every time they post like funny stories 690 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 3: or little things like I'll see it, And they recently 691 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 3: posted something saying like specifically class only eleven, like we're 692 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 3: gonna have the reunion. We're planning it now, like what 693 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 3: suggestions do y'all have? And so I've threw in some suggestions. 694 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 3: But I feel like my college friends, even though we're 695 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 3: spread out a lot, are really still very very tight. 696 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 3: Like our group chats are always popping every time we 697 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 3: get together. It's like I just saw you yesterday, even 698 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 3: though it's probably been like eighteen months since we last 699 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 3: hung out in person. But yeah, So I'm actually excited 700 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 3: to go to my fifteen year and I've kept up 701 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 3: with a lot of them on social media, even if 702 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 3: I don't see people in person as much. And I 703 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 3: don't know my experience in undergrad was very much like 704 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 3: I was one of the I always identified as after Latinas, 705 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 3: so I was very much in the black Latino community heavy. 706 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 3: So it's like, even though you know, there's gonna be 707 00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 3: a lot of people that I'll be happy to see, 708 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 3: it's really this group of people that made my experience 709 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 3: very special that I cannot wait to reconnect with. So 710 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 3: it's just my. 711 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 5: Experience sounds beautiful. Yeah, my college pals, Yeah, y'all kind 712 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 5: of feel like college pals, but like financial Oh yeah, 713 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 5: speaking of that where I met y'all. 714 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 3: Fin Con just happens. 715 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 2: This was it, Jalla. You didn't go, Chris, and how 716 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 2: was it over there? 717 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 4: You know what, all you East coast people didn't let 718 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 4: me If you all don't know. Fincoun's this conference that 719 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 4: we all have gone to where people who do what 720 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 4: we do, like this finance media stuff, they come together 721 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:34,479 Speaker 4: and you know, it's a conference. It's a good time. 722 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 4: It's like really good people, all this stuff. But it's 723 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 4: always almost always either in the center of the country 724 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 4: or on the East coast for years and years and years. 725 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 4: For the first time in like seven years, it was 726 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 4: on the West coast over here, like it was a 727 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 4: beautiful West Coast our weather is so much better, especially 728 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 4: this time of year than what y'all got going on, 729 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 4: and you all could have came over here. But I 730 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,040 Speaker 4: felt like every East Coast person was like, oh, the 731 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 4: fights too long. I can't sit on a plane five 732 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 4: six hours. And I'm like, I've been doing this for 733 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 4: years and the one time it's on my side of 734 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 4: the country, nobody wants to go. I don't understand it. 735 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,239 Speaker 4: Say it's a little rude if you ask me, But 736 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:14,719 Speaker 4: why are. 737 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 1: You going to take it personally? It's not all about you. 738 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 4: I did take it personally, Chris specific And here's the 739 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,720 Speaker 4: thing I want you everyone listening to know. Neither Mandy 740 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 4: or yeah Ll they told me in advance that they 741 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 4: weren't going. 742 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 2: I actually genuinely sound surprise. 743 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 4: I was talking to Mandy on the phone and I 744 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,320 Speaker 4: was like, Oh, I'm gonna see I'm getting ready for 745 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 4: fink you're gonna be there, and You're like, oh, I'm 746 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:37,919 Speaker 4: not going. I'm like, what do you mean you're not going? 747 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 4: You had all this time to tell me you're not going, 748 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 4: and all of a sudden, you. 749 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 1: Woman with children's going anywhere. I didn't children Brooklyn yesterday, 750 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:51,279 Speaker 1: twin and then I paid a ticket for Okay, it 751 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 1: was two hours away. 752 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 4: It's so far you would have been halfway to Portland 753 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 4: if you would have came fake within two hours. 754 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 2: No, but it it wasn't. It wasn't on. It wasn't 755 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 2: that poorly attended. 756 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:03,879 Speaker 3: Was it? 757 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 1: Like? 758 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:05,919 Speaker 2: What was the vibe? 759 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 3: A good crowd? 760 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 4: It was a good turnout, but definitely felt smaller and 761 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 4: I definitely could see who wasn't there and it was 762 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:14,840 Speaker 4: pretty much everybody. Only PEO wouldn't show it with the 763 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 4: ones on the East coast. 764 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,799 Speaker 1: Maybe they should, like, I don't know, pay your girl 765 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 1: to talk. Sometimes I don't want to pay my way 766 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 1: to go out there. It's kind of how I feel, Ken, 767 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 1: did you learn anything good there? 768 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 4: Like? 769 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 2: What were there any goods? 770 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:30,279 Speaker 4: Like? 771 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 2: What was the vibe? 772 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:35,840 Speaker 1: How are how are the finn Con influencers, bloggers, podcasters doing? 773 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,239 Speaker 2: Like how's business? Did you get a sense of that? 774 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 4: I did? And you know, I felt the theme was 775 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:45,399 Speaker 4: transition because everybody is getting hit, especially what you're saying, 776 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,000 Speaker 4: a lot of the writers, so those people were bloggers 777 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 4: who were freelance. 778 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 2: Writers writers ton Yeah. 779 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,959 Speaker 4: Yeah, big got hit. They're getting hit really hard because 780 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,399 Speaker 4: obviously all the changes to Google and their little AI 781 00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 4: block that they throw over at the top. It's cutting 782 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 4: trafficked to a lot of websites, and so that cuts 783 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 4: down AD revenue, and that trickles down to letting go 784 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 4: of writers. I mean they're letting go of like staff writers, 785 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 4: let alone, you know, the freelancers. Those are the first 786 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 4: ones to something to get bumped out of there. And 787 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:11,840 Speaker 4: so I met a lot of people who were writers 788 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,799 Speaker 4: who are now transitioning, and I will say I was 789 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:18,880 Speaker 4: pretty I was really impressed by the upbeat approach a 790 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 4: lot of these people had, because I mean, I think 791 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:21,799 Speaker 4: it would be so easy to be defeated if I 792 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:23,600 Speaker 4: was a writer and all of a sudden all my 793 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,399 Speaker 4: jobs are disappearing. I understand you could just fall into 794 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,400 Speaker 4: some dark spaces. But I was really impressed by so 795 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 4: many people I talked too are like, yeah, it sucks, 796 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 4: but I'm learning to be a video editor. I'm learning 797 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,759 Speaker 4: how to make content in other forms. And a lot 798 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 4: of people were just on that pivot, that pivot grind, 799 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,400 Speaker 4: trying new things, and that really was like, you know, 800 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 4: impressive to see it. And he gave me even like 801 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,400 Speaker 4: a little more hope fight. Look, this is tough itself 802 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,760 Speaker 4: for all of us, because the space is really rapidly changing, 803 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 4: and the way you earn money through this space, like 804 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,240 Speaker 4: through ad revenue things like that ISPID has been changing 805 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,799 Speaker 4: for years now. But to see people who are being 806 00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,400 Speaker 4: hit the hardest right now finding ways to pivot and 807 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:04,600 Speaker 4: make something out of nothing, I was really impressed, and 808 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,279 Speaker 4: I was happy to see so many people taking it 809 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 4: being as positive as you possibly could be considering what 810 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,640 Speaker 4: they did is not a show. I mean, hey, look, 811 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,239 Speaker 4: you got to say it first, right, you gotta believe it. 812 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,600 Speaker 3: First before it could be putting on a show. But also, 813 00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,640 Speaker 3: I feel like now is the best possible time ever 814 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:23,920 Speaker 3: in history to be in that situation because you have 815 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,759 Speaker 3: social media platforms like substack, so I guess technically not 816 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:28,880 Speaker 3: social media, but just like an ability for our writer 817 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:32,080 Speaker 3: to monetize their writing by having an audience that pays 818 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,600 Speaker 3: them directly instead of being a famous New York Times 819 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:39,279 Speaker 3: columnist who who's direct who's directly tied to payments coming 820 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,600 Speaker 3: from the New York Times, and if they let you go, 821 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,279 Speaker 3: you're screwed, right versus. Subsack is kind of platform that 822 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,440 Speaker 3: I think is allowing writers to feel empowered to write 823 00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,759 Speaker 3: every single day, every week, every month however often you 824 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:52,960 Speaker 3: want to and be paid directly. I feel like that 825 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,560 Speaker 3: just didn't exist and in the past. And also I 826 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,480 Speaker 3: think fin Con is a great space for that kind 827 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,200 Speaker 3: of energy. Like every I've been going to like twenty eighteen, right, 828 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,759 Speaker 3: and every single year that I've gone, it feels like 829 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,279 Speaker 3: people just be like, I didn't know what to do, 830 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,200 Speaker 3: and then I met this person over here and they 831 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:09,400 Speaker 3: told me to do this, and I did it, and 832 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,239 Speaker 3: then I started making ten thousand dollars a month, like 833 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,400 Speaker 3: and it's just like WHOA. When you're in a space 834 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,360 Speaker 3: like that where you hear from people showing you what's possible. 835 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 3: As long as you're willing to be gritty and put 836 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,600 Speaker 3: in the work and be creative and stick with something, 837 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:22,960 Speaker 3: I think that is a good space for people to be. 838 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:24,440 Speaker 3: And even if they were a little bit faking the 839 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,560 Speaker 3: funk while they were there, I think they leave with 840 00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:30,080 Speaker 3: value if they truly do build relationships while they're there. 841 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,319 Speaker 3: Like I've met people who I'm like, damn, like that 842 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:35,200 Speaker 3: is so motivational and inspiring to me, and I would 843 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,840 Speaker 3: never have known them if I didn't go to Fincoln. 844 00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true. And I think it's one those things 845 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 4: too where it's especially you see now like the world 846 00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:47,680 Speaker 4: was crazy the end of this country. It's crazy and 847 00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:51,719 Speaker 4: it's easy. I think. I'm sorry I lost myself again, 848 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,400 Speaker 4: you know, it's it's wild. And one of things I 849 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 4: always hear people say is like, you know, one of 850 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 4: things you can do to help yourself is fine community, right, 851 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,040 Speaker 4: And sometimes I roll my eyes and like community. But 852 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,439 Speaker 4: then when you're in the space where you're around people 853 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:06,799 Speaker 4: who like either you've you've met it before or you 854 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:08,680 Speaker 4: know you meet now in this event and you're all 855 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,080 Speaker 4: kind of like working through a similar thing together, You're 856 00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,120 Speaker 4: you're you're talking, you for conversations. Even if it's like 857 00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,400 Speaker 4: you didn't learn anything that made you make some more money, 858 00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:17,520 Speaker 4: you just have someone to talk to who knows what 859 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,840 Speaker 4: you're going through. And I'm like, oh that it is 860 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,359 Speaker 4: so important. Like even just even if that moment, even 861 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,360 Speaker 4: if once I leave this space, I'm gonna open up 862 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,560 Speaker 4: my news up again and get depressed again, you have 863 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:28,560 Speaker 4: those moments where you can break yourself out of it, 864 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 4: and that's what you need to kind of help yourself 865 00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,120 Speaker 4: keep going. Because if you just if you're just sitting 866 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,320 Speaker 4: in it every day all day like I do. Sometimes 867 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:38,800 Speaker 4: you're just like, well, well, what's the point, and but 868 00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:43,680 Speaker 4: you need those community moments. Yes, who gave you a soundboard? 869 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:45,560 Speaker 4: Who gave you a sound. 870 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:50,400 Speaker 1: Boy, I'm just over here looking at these little buttons. 871 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,040 Speaker 3: Cut it so quick. It's like they cheered and then 872 00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:54,360 Speaker 3: they didn't like what happened. 873 00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:01,080 Speaker 1: Oh my Godlogy, that's the sitcom guy. 874 00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,440 Speaker 3: No, that was a bad laugh track. That's like a 875 00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:05,680 Speaker 3: sitcom fake laugh track. 876 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:07,440 Speaker 2: You know, you guys are both right. 877 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I think looking for any place where you 878 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,480 Speaker 1: can show up and be with other people who are 879 00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,520 Speaker 1: like who are choosing positivity, which is not I think 880 00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:19,080 Speaker 1: it's I think everyone can't be optimistic and positive all 881 00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:22,879 Speaker 1: the time, but enough of y'all can be optimistic while 882 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,759 Speaker 1: others are being pessimistic to like lift each other up 883 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:29,280 Speaker 1: and then hope, like reaching out and like being in community. 884 00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,719 Speaker 1: I think it's it's like to we talked about mental 885 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:36,160 Speaker 1: health earlier. It's like the only cure. It just is 886 00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:39,319 Speaker 1: so hard when you're in that deep, deep thunk to 887 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:40,800 Speaker 1: reach out toward. 888 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:42,440 Speaker 4: It is, you know, I will say that one of 889 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,839 Speaker 4: things about moving up here to San Francisco has been 890 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:49,279 Speaker 4: that having more of a community and that I didn't have, 891 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,720 Speaker 4: or because people didn't want to drive. I knew people, 892 00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:53,480 Speaker 4: but people didn't want to drive. Like I don't blame 893 00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,040 Speaker 4: I don't want to sit in an hour traffic. But 894 00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,160 Speaker 4: being here in the city, we're so dense and people 895 00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,640 Speaker 4: walk around a lot and you just end up seeing 896 00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:01,680 Speaker 4: friends often you nip have a night. I was with 897 00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:03,320 Speaker 4: a friend yesterday at coffee shop and then we just 898 00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,400 Speaker 4: struck up a conversation with some people in the coffee 899 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,759 Speaker 4: shop and we're just like, it was just so nice. 900 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:09,520 Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, look at this. It's like, you know, 901 00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,799 Speaker 4: it's a nice, pleasant moment that I wouldn't have thought 902 00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:16,440 Speaker 4: was possible if I was just inside and staying to myself. 903 00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:19,480 Speaker 2: Chat GPT couldn't do that. They can't take you inside 904 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:20,200 Speaker 2: of some combo. 905 00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:24,080 Speaker 3: Sure can't. Maybe a side of convo, but not not 906 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:24,600 Speaker 3: a lte. 907 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:29,680 Speaker 1: Should we take a little break out and come back 908 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:31,560 Speaker 1: and do a brown boost Brown break. 909 00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:32,799 Speaker 3: Let's do it. 910 00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:34,520 Speaker 1: Let's do it all right, We'll be right back b 911 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:41,840 Speaker 1: a fam stick around. Well, listen to this before we 912 00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,640 Speaker 1: get into brown boost Brown break. I wanted to get 913 00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:47,040 Speaker 1: back to thinking the listeners who take the time to 914 00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:51,439 Speaker 1: leave reviews and comments and dms, and there was one 915 00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:54,239 Speaker 1: for you, jan Nellie. We did an episode. When did 916 00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:55,920 Speaker 1: you mention this? I forget it must have been our 917 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,600 Speaker 1: last Brown Table, which was a while back, but one 918 00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:03,200 Speaker 1: of our listeners, one of our listeners said, oh, yeah, 919 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,239 Speaker 1: this is from Nedda who commented on Spotify. By the way, 920 00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:07,880 Speaker 1: you guys can comment on Spotify, and a lot of 921 00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:11,200 Speaker 1: y'all do, and it's so great. On specific episodes, Nedda 922 00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,520 Speaker 1: Jones said, thank you yan Nelly. She's bout yan Nali. 923 00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:17,239 Speaker 2: I like that. But ya Nelly for the. 924 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:20,799 Speaker 1: Book recommendation Defectors. I didn't know about the Parsley rule. 925 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,000 Speaker 1: And also I will be googling it to learn more. 926 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,680 Speaker 1: So they're listening defectors. 927 00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,160 Speaker 3: I love that. So yeah, first of all, Defectors are 928 00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:32,760 Speaker 3: so good. And speaking of Defectors, the author Bala Ramos 929 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,720 Speaker 3: just started a new podcast with her father, Jorge Ramos, 930 00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,240 Speaker 3: who I'm sure y'all know if you've ever seen Latin News. 931 00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:43,279 Speaker 3: He's huge media guy. But together father and daughter duo 932 00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:48,680 Speaker 3: are doing a podcast and yeah, it's really good and 933 00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,319 Speaker 3: it's no it's e English they are. Their very first 934 00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:55,200 Speaker 3: guest was Zoron Mamdani, which I highly recommend. That interview 935 00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:56,120 Speaker 3: is so good, so. 936 00:42:56,080 --> 00:43:00,839 Speaker 1: Good, then I wish him very well because New York 937 00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:01,960 Speaker 1: deserves so much better. 938 00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:06,719 Speaker 3: Much tell me about it. Although on the podcast they 939 00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:08,759 Speaker 3: talked about this, but a lot of the districts in 940 00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,879 Speaker 3: a lot of the counties that voted for Trump, those 941 00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:16,000 Speaker 3: exact same counties voted for Mom Donnie. So you you 942 00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:17,959 Speaker 3: see a lot of flip flopping. And I think either 943 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:19,879 Speaker 3: people just didn't show up to vote, or those same 944 00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:21,840 Speaker 3: people are now like what did I do? Hurry up, 945 00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:24,480 Speaker 3: take corrective action, and like go and vote from I'm 946 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:25,960 Speaker 3: not really sure, but it was. It was explored a 947 00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:27,879 Speaker 3: little bit in the podcast. Was so interesting to hear 948 00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,880 Speaker 3: those stats around the exact same communities and pockets that 949 00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:34,120 Speaker 3: voted for Trump now when I voted Donnie. You think 950 00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,640 Speaker 3: it doesn't really make sense, but it's interesting to see 951 00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:37,160 Speaker 3: that shift. 952 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,960 Speaker 1: I don't count as a New York City, uh constituent anymore. 953 00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:43,000 Speaker 1: I'm technically no. 954 00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:49,080 Speaker 3: You up. I don't think it's look for anybody in 955 00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,640 Speaker 3: the five boroughs. They know for a fact, Westchester is upstate. 956 00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:55,080 Speaker 4: I'm not. It's pretty Far North. 957 00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:57,440 Speaker 2: Valley doesn't count. 958 00:43:57,680 --> 00:43:59,799 Speaker 3: Okay, let me tell you something, baby girl. We got 959 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,240 Speaker 3: two airports in New York City, LaGuardia and JFK y'all. 960 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,759 Speaker 1: Got it, and White Plan Airport, by the way, very 961 00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,799 Speaker 1: affordable flights to Florida. We go to the Bahamas. Now 962 00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:09,960 Speaker 1: we even go California. 963 00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:12,480 Speaker 4: Oh oh, so it's easy to get, easy to get 964 00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:13,160 Speaker 4: to the West Coaster. 965 00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,200 Speaker 2: Is it White White the Reporter or west Chester? No, 966 00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,800 Speaker 2: it is West Westchester. 967 00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:21,200 Speaker 3: The city girl. 968 00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, how to bet on this topic? 969 00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:30,520 Speaker 1: Tanisha also on Spotify Back to our listeners, Tanisha, hey girl, 970 00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:32,520 Speaker 1: she said, Oh, she was responding to I did an 971 00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:38,399 Speaker 1: episode without y'all about housing, the housing economy right now. 972 00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:41,520 Speaker 1: I had the chief economists from Redfin on the show, 973 00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,640 Speaker 1: and I was bitching about my property taxes as I do, 974 00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:48,319 Speaker 1: and Tanisha commiserate. She said, property taxes are no joke. 975 00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,320 Speaker 1: Mine increase every year, and more houses being built in 976 00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:54,000 Speaker 1: an area does not help. I live in an area 977 00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,400 Speaker 1: that's been adding more houses and apartments for the last 978 00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,160 Speaker 1: twenty years, but my taxes go. 979 00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:01,759 Speaker 2: Up every year every year. 980 00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, because they'll add houses and then they're going to 981 00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,680 Speaker 1: add a Trader Joe's and then you know, you know, 982 00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:10,200 Speaker 1: or Whole Foods. You know them taxes are coming up. 983 00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:12,000 Speaker 4: You don't want to see a Whole Foods pop up. 984 00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:13,240 Speaker 4: You know it's about to get expensive. 985 00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,760 Speaker 3: Or it's the Starbucks one of them. 986 00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're getting an old navy near me. Now, I 987 00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:21,360 Speaker 1: don't know what that says about the economy or my 988 00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:24,440 Speaker 1: taxes are what. It's kind of giving like discount it is. 989 00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:26,279 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not mad at it. That's where I 990 00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,479 Speaker 3: get my work. I'll close at I'm not even mad. 991 00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:30,759 Speaker 4: Was I was driving when I went back home. I 992 00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:32,239 Speaker 4: was down in LA and I was driving. That's how 993 00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:35,360 Speaker 4: a billboard like, oh new Arawan coming. I'm like, this 994 00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:38,799 Speaker 4: is about to get real crazy Arawin. Have you heard 995 00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:39,640 Speaker 4: that grocery story? 996 00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:42,400 Speaker 2: Oh that's the expensive smoothie place. 997 00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:44,680 Speaker 4: You read a forty dollars movie that that place. 998 00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,359 Speaker 1: Yes, I only had learned about them when I went 999 00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:49,480 Speaker 1: to Beverly Hills like a couple. 1000 00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:49,799 Speaker 2: Of years ago. 1001 00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,600 Speaker 4: They're opening new ones apparently. I guess. Oh you know what, 1002 00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,400 Speaker 4: people got too much money in this area. That's make 1003 00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:56,920 Speaker 4: them wasted. 1004 00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:00,759 Speaker 1: All these people I'm about to are baking my own 1005 00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,240 Speaker 1: bread Okay, I'm about to be on a tight budget. 1006 00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:07,680 Speaker 2: I actually need my husband to like get his paycheck. 1007 00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:10,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna have to. I'm gonna start homesteading. I'm 1008 00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:11,760 Speaker 1: gonna be a trad wife. 1009 00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,040 Speaker 3: I don't know. Oh oh that's the route. 1010 00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:17,320 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm just gonna start growing my own food. 1011 00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:19,400 Speaker 3: I think you don't have to wait till Hobby's paycheck 1012 00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:23,480 Speaker 3: hits again then to take that route. Girl, not during 1013 00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:25,760 Speaker 3: this government shutdown. You can't be no trad wife. 1014 00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:26,319 Speaker 2: I know. 1015 00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,080 Speaker 1: Okay, that's right, because tradwives don't work. 1016 00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:28,920 Speaker 2: That's the idea, right. 1017 00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:31,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like the worst type of t I'm the worst. 1018 00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:33,680 Speaker 1: I'm like the stay at home mom entrepreneur. 1019 00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:36,240 Speaker 3: And like I'm a working trad wife, like that moron. 1020 00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,080 Speaker 1: That's really what I feel like, because how am I 1021 00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:40,000 Speaker 1: like in the pta? 1022 00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:41,080 Speaker 2: I'm class mom. 1023 00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:43,880 Speaker 1: I have a garden, but like I'm still here writing 1024 00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:45,560 Speaker 1: a book, running a business. I texted one of my 1025 00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:47,120 Speaker 1: friends last night and I was like, why the hell 1026 00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:49,520 Speaker 1: did you? Why did why did you not stop me 1027 00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:51,719 Speaker 1: from trying to do all this ship when I had 1028 00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:53,840 Speaker 1: two kids under five? Like why did you let me? 1029 00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:57,080 Speaker 1: She's like, you wouldn't have listened. She said, legends never listen. 1030 00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:00,279 Speaker 1: I was like, I don't feel like a legend. I 1031 00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:03,840 Speaker 1: feel like a loser. It's so hard. 1032 00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:07,279 Speaker 3: Uh, it's only while they're this little. Think about it. 1033 00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:09,080 Speaker 3: When they're older, they're gonna be like, well, my mom 1034 00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:11,239 Speaker 3: was at everything. She was in the PTA, and she 1035 00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,799 Speaker 3: was sad, like, you know, you can't really say that 1036 00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:15,680 Speaker 3: once they're older and you're not really having to do 1037 00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:17,239 Speaker 3: all that stuff. So I kind of agree with her. 1038 00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:18,799 Speaker 3: I feel like you should do all the things now 1039 00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:21,399 Speaker 3: while you can, and while they will feel like it's 1040 00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:22,719 Speaker 3: a special thing that you're doing. 1041 00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:23,839 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1042 00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,480 Speaker 1: That see now, I wish I could just focus on that, 1043 00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:28,959 Speaker 1: But it's the it's the other half of the coin 1044 00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:32,120 Speaker 1: that can become laborious. But yeah, now Rio does no 1045 00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:33,120 Speaker 1: mommy has a podcast. 1046 00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:35,080 Speaker 4: He likes it. Ooh. 1047 00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:38,560 Speaker 1: Christina from IG says Mandy, I'm one of your Latina listeners. 1048 00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:40,840 Speaker 1: I'm listening to today's episode, and I love that you 1049 00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:44,840 Speaker 1: read an Audre Lord poem, one that I've turned to 1050 00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:47,239 Speaker 1: in my own life. And I wanted to recommend a 1051 00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:49,399 Speaker 1: book my girlfriend and I love reading to each other 1052 00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,640 Speaker 1: called Black people who Read to each other. That's so cute. 1053 00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:58,000 Speaker 1: It's called Black Liturgies by Cole Arthur Riley as black 1054 00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:00,719 Speaker 1: and brown lesbians, respectively. She and I turned to this 1055 00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:04,000 Speaker 1: book together for comfort and reflection. If you haven't already 1056 00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:05,560 Speaker 1: read it, check it out and let me know what 1057 00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:07,759 Speaker 1: you think. Okay, I've never read that. I'm a checking 1058 00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:08,200 Speaker 1: out either. 1059 00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:11,319 Speaker 3: I'm just writing it down. Cool Arthur Riley. 1060 00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:16,920 Speaker 4: You have, Chris, No, I haven't. I'm writing it down too, okay. Okay. 1061 00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:18,719 Speaker 3: And here's me thinking that the author was a man. 1062 00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:19,839 Speaker 3: It's a beautiful black woman. 1063 00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:20,200 Speaker 4: Okay. 1064 00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:25,360 Speaker 3: Cool Arthur Riley. You're author of this here Flesh and 1065 00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:28,160 Speaker 3: Black Liturgies, which is the recommended book. 1066 00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:33,160 Speaker 1: Okay, saved, Thank you, Christina. Oh, you have the best listeners. Okay, 1067 00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:37,560 Speaker 1: brown boost Brown brig time. So I'm gonna boost one 1068 00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:41,600 Speaker 1: Ashley Allison, whose name I did not know before this weekend, 1069 00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:43,040 Speaker 1: but whose name we will now never forget. 1070 00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:44,040 Speaker 2: It will live an infamy. 1071 00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:48,640 Speaker 1: She is taking ownership of The Root, which, if y'all 1072 00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:51,279 Speaker 1: you know, I didn't realize The Root wasn't even that old. 1073 00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,840 Speaker 1: It was founded in two thousand and nine by the 1074 00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:59,920 Speaker 1: esteemed you know, Professor Henry Lewis Gates Junior Selivan Roundson 1075 00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,120 Speaker 1: two thousand and nine. But it's like one of the biggest, 1076 00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:07,239 Speaker 1: baddest sources of black news, and it has actually not 1077 00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:10,080 Speaker 1: been owned by a black owner for several years now. 1078 00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:14,160 Speaker 1: It was acquired by I forget which company acquired them, 1079 00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,160 Speaker 1: but then, like a lot of companies do, they spun 1080 00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:20,719 Speaker 1: it off to private equity firm. But Ashley Allison has 1081 00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:24,880 Speaker 1: now taken over ownership. She's acquired the route and I 1082 00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:27,759 Speaker 1: was on the Win with Black Women. Remember Win with 1083 00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:32,560 Speaker 1: Black Women. It's that grassroots organization that really started, I 1084 00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:35,400 Speaker 1: think during the pandemic, but came to fame the summer 1085 00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:38,760 Speaker 1: of twenty twenty four in being one of the biggest 1086 00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:44,520 Speaker 1: like crowdfunding fundraising efforts from black women for Kamala Harris 1087 00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:46,680 Speaker 1: to his campaign when like forty thousand black women got 1088 00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:49,160 Speaker 1: on a zoom call that was Win with Black Women. 1089 00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:51,759 Speaker 1: It was founded by Jotaka Eddie and they still meet 1090 00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:53,799 Speaker 1: almost every Sunday, and I always try to catch the 1091 00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:57,560 Speaker 1: calls because they are so inspirational. And last time I 1092 00:49:57,600 --> 00:49:59,760 Speaker 1: was on the call, Kamala Harris was on it. Stacy 1093 00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:04,320 Speaker 1: ab Rooms stop by was like insane. And yesterday Ashley 1094 00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:08,800 Speaker 1: got on and she had a really inspiring story because 1095 00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:10,840 Speaker 1: apparently in two thousand and nine she was trying to 1096 00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:14,680 Speaker 1: start a blog like a media brand was the name 1097 00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:17,200 Speaker 1: of her company. I'm gonna forget it now, but that 1098 00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:20,719 Speaker 1: sort of had gone dormant. And since then she's you know, 1099 00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:24,000 Speaker 1: come up in in media as an executive and as 1100 00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:27,799 Speaker 1: a an investor. And now she's able to purchase the 1101 00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:29,880 Speaker 1: Route and bring it back to black ownership. And I 1102 00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:33,640 Speaker 1: just think that that's incredible. 1103 00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:36,640 Speaker 3: Is amazing call. Her company is called Watering Hole Media. 1104 00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:40,880 Speaker 1: Oh thank you watering Hole Media now the owner of 1105 00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:41,960 Speaker 1: the Route. 1106 00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:46,560 Speaker 3: I love that amazing. I love that. Well, my boost 1107 00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:48,840 Speaker 3: is going to be a little bit like sad slash, 1108 00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:53,560 Speaker 3: you know, not not great. But if you don't already 1109 00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:55,960 Speaker 3: know what happened in the Trey Read case, he was 1110 00:50:55,960 --> 00:51:00,480 Speaker 3: found dead on the on the campus of Delta State University, 1111 00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:02,279 Speaker 3: I have been trying to figure out what happened with 1112 00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:03,879 Speaker 3: this case, with the Trade Read case, like I feel 1113 00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:06,920 Speaker 3: like it was everywhere and then it was gone right. 1114 00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:10,919 Speaker 3: And so yesterday, yesterday I read an article on black 1115 00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:13,759 Speaker 3: girl nerds dot com. If you don't know Black Girl Nerds, 1116 00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:18,880 Speaker 3: I love Jamie Brodnax. She's amazing. But she posted literally 1117 00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:23,160 Speaker 3: just a couple of days ago that new information has 1118 00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:27,040 Speaker 3: been revealed from the second autopsy. And so my boost 1119 00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:30,479 Speaker 3: is a huge shout out to Colin Kaepernick because through 1120 00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:35,440 Speaker 3: his nonprofit organization, they fully funded a second independent autopsy. 1121 00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:36,560 Speaker 3: And this was bad. 1122 00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:38,760 Speaker 2: He was found hanging from a tree. 1123 00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:41,560 Speaker 1: From a tree, they said it was a suicide. 1124 00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:44,000 Speaker 3: Okay, so they immediately said it was a suicide, which 1125 00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:46,120 Speaker 3: a lot of people were like, shady, shady, shady, hell no, 1126 00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:48,080 Speaker 3: that can't be it. And so it was kind of 1127 00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:50,359 Speaker 3: like a case close situation. But the family and all 1128 00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:52,319 Speaker 3: these people were like, there were murmurs if things weren't right, 1129 00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:55,279 Speaker 3: like that didn't feel right. And so Colin Kaepernick's organization 1130 00:51:55,920 --> 00:52:00,759 Speaker 3: went and funded a second independent autopsy, and now his 1131 00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:04,120 Speaker 3: organization revealed that there was blunt force trauma to the 1132 00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:07,919 Speaker 3: back of Trey Reid's head, which was not found when 1133 00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:12,200 Speaker 3: the initial ruling was determined to be a suicide. So 1134 00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:15,360 Speaker 3: now there are all of these activists and advocates that 1135 00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:19,799 Speaker 3: are essentially reviving the situation, Thank goodness, because if not, 1136 00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:22,640 Speaker 3: like nobody would be paying attention. And that was just 1137 00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:25,640 Speaker 3: way too sketchy and bizarre. For people to just ignore. 1138 00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:28,600 Speaker 3: So if it wasn't for Colin Kaepernick funding this, I 1139 00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:30,759 Speaker 3: don't think it would have been possible. It's very expensive. 1140 00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:33,759 Speaker 3: And not only that, but then I looked into the organization, 1141 00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:35,719 Speaker 3: the nonprofit that he has that does this, and this 1142 00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:37,840 Speaker 3: is a track record of what they do. Like his 1143 00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:42,799 Speaker 3: organization was created specifically to help in cases where, you know, 1144 00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:45,280 Speaker 3: things don't seem right, in these criminal quot or whatever 1145 00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:47,839 Speaker 3: case situations where there's like, oh, it's you know, there's 1146 00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:51,520 Speaker 3: something sketchy, but the find the official report says there 1147 00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:54,759 Speaker 3: was no sketchy part in it. And so his organization 1148 00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:59,799 Speaker 3: actually funds independent autopsies pretty regularly, and so I just 1149 00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:02,120 Speaker 3: thought that was incredible that he would take his money 1150 00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:04,440 Speaker 3: put it to a nonprofit that focuses on doing that 1151 00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:08,520 Speaker 3: because that is so incredibly necessary in the larger fight 1152 00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:11,960 Speaker 3: for social justice. And so yeah, this boost is just 1153 00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:15,520 Speaker 3: big ups to Colin Kaepernick because that's amazing, amazing. 1154 00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:18,839 Speaker 1: Well that I don't know if that would even bring 1155 00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:21,200 Speaker 1: comfort to the family, but I hope that I think 1156 00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:24,719 Speaker 1: the truth any any closer to the truth. Yes, I agree, 1157 00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,120 Speaker 1: it was crazy how it just completely fell off of 1158 00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:28,720 Speaker 1: mainstream news. 1159 00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:30,839 Speaker 4: Nothing about it. 1160 00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:33,520 Speaker 3: No, And I've literally been like every time I'm on 1161 00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:35,279 Speaker 3: the new I'm looking at the news. I'm like, a 1162 00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:37,480 Speaker 3: matter of fact, the other day, I was going through 1163 00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:39,240 Speaker 3: my phone. I pull up this New York Times article 1164 00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:43,560 Speaker 3: and it's like Tarlor Swift's new album, here are the 1165 00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:47,680 Speaker 3: top songs. I'm like, how is this news? New York Times? 1166 00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:49,759 Speaker 2: I've been seeing us here are the worst songs people. 1167 00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:53,680 Speaker 3: I'm just like, New York Times, how is this news? 1168 00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:54,000 Speaker 2: Please? 1169 00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:57,160 Speaker 3: I truly don't understand, like how that comes to my 1170 00:53:57,239 --> 00:54:00,640 Speaker 3: email inbox when there's all kinds of crazin happening and 1171 00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:03,920 Speaker 3: that it's not deemed news, Like I don't put me 1172 00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:06,120 Speaker 3: on this mic to talk about that. But anyways, So 1173 00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:09,000 Speaker 3: shout out to Don Kaepernick. Shout out to him, because 1174 00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:11,719 Speaker 3: that's amazing. We It just put fuel under me to 1175 00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,480 Speaker 3: recognize that every time I think about my wife for 1176 00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:17,040 Speaker 3: financial independence, it's because I feel like there's so much 1177 00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:19,200 Speaker 3: work that needs to be done that a lot of 1178 00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:23,160 Speaker 3: like official channels won't do. And that's where independently wealthy 1179 00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:25,239 Speaker 3: people can come in and play a very powerful role 1180 00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:27,200 Speaker 3: and just like fired me up to keep doing what 1181 00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:27,680 Speaker 3: I'm doing. 1182 00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:32,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I should have done a break for the Epstein shit. 1183 00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:35,959 Speaker 1: I'm so tired of that man's name and jazaying what's 1184 00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:37,959 Speaker 1: her face? Like that's been on the New York Times 1185 00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:41,399 Speaker 1: ham page for megor I'm sick of that shit. I can't. Yeah, 1186 00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:44,239 Speaker 1: that's true, you know, and let's keep Trey's naming the 1187 00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:47,440 Speaker 1: news because I think exactly that's just a symptom of like, oh, 1188 00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:50,160 Speaker 1: America must be really comfortable with the idea of a 1189 00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:53,440 Speaker 1: black man swinging from a tree to just you know, 1190 00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:56,000 Speaker 1: turn the page on it and pretend like it never happened. 1191 00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:58,640 Speaker 2: I know, by white woman. 1192 00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:01,640 Speaker 1: Let it have been a Suzanne or something like and 1193 00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:02,920 Speaker 1: we would not hear the end of it. 1194 00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:06,359 Speaker 3: Anybody like it. Just it's so bizarre to me, Like, 1195 00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:10,439 Speaker 3: what kind of person who wants to underlive themselves does 1196 00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:14,080 Speaker 3: it in a like extremely public place, in a public 1197 00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:16,080 Speaker 3: way like that people usually want to do that they 1198 00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:18,240 Speaker 3: did in the privacy of their own home and hotel 1199 00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:20,560 Speaker 3: room and the bathroom and the you know, it just 1200 00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:23,200 Speaker 3: seems so bizarre. And then to them immediately say it's 1201 00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:26,480 Speaker 3: a suicide. I mean, nobody obviously knows exactly what happened, 1202 00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:29,240 Speaker 3: but the fact that Kaepernick is putting money behind actually 1203 00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:32,440 Speaker 3: figuring it out is just it's necessary, because it just 1204 00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:33,400 Speaker 3: seemed way too sketchy. 1205 00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:36,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, because no black person's choosing that as their way 1206 00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:36,799 Speaker 4: to go out. 1207 00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:41,359 Speaker 1: That's a level of self cloathing. That doesn't I don't 1208 00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:44,120 Speaker 1: think we're capable. You gotta trust the mother. The mother 1209 00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:46,200 Speaker 1: always said like he would not do this, He was 1210 00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:50,600 Speaker 1: not that unhappy. I believe. I believe her. I hope 1211 00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:52,600 Speaker 1: that the truth comes out. 1212 00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:53,439 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1213 00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:58,800 Speaker 2: Same, All right, Chris, You're okay? 1214 00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:01,200 Speaker 4: All right? I I was. I was letting it breath. 1215 00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:02,560 Speaker 4: I didn't want to just hop right in. Yeah. 1216 00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:04,680 Speaker 3: I can't jump in with something. That's why I said, 1217 00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:06,680 Speaker 3: I I preface mind. We're like, this is a this 1218 00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:07,640 Speaker 3: is a hard one. 1219 00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:08,840 Speaker 2: Sorry, that's my anxiety. 1220 00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:11,280 Speaker 1: I don't know how to how to how to let silence. 1221 00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:12,000 Speaker 2: You saw what I did with. 1222 00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:18,480 Speaker 4: What to do? Uh? You know what? I'm gonna do 1223 00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:21,359 Speaker 4: a brown boost and mine. You know, Amight. It's gonna 1224 00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:23,920 Speaker 4: be for the city of Portland, which neither of YouTube visited. 1225 00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:28,520 Speaker 4: But you know it's Portland. You know, it's another West 1226 00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:30,439 Speaker 4: Coast city not too far from where I live. Right now, 1227 00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:33,640 Speaker 4: It's been in the news. I can't I couldn't bossly understand 1228 00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:34,840 Speaker 4: why it's been in the news, but it's been in 1229 00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:38,719 Speaker 4: the news, and I gotta say I enjoyed my time 1230 00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:41,160 Speaker 4: in the city of Portland. It was beautiful. 1231 00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:43,560 Speaker 1: Wait, why has it been in the news for for ice? 1232 00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:47,320 Speaker 3: Is that why? Yeah? Yeah, because they were the court 1233 00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:51,960 Speaker 3: the judge said that they can't bring in forces to 1234 00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:54,920 Speaker 3: protect people in Portland, like essentially stopped him from sending 1235 00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:58,960 Speaker 3: in troops, which is wild. That yeah, anyway, but that's 1236 00:56:58,960 --> 00:56:59,840 Speaker 3: why they've been in the news. 1237 00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:02,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, and because you know the same you know, Portland's 1238 00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:06,480 Speaker 4: in a state of revolution. I was. I spent five 1239 00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:09,719 Speaker 4: days in Portland, and I gotta say it was Look, 1240 00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:12,320 Speaker 4: it's still a city. Every city. I've lived in cities 1241 00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:13,919 Speaker 4: my whole life. You're gonna see some stuff in the city. 1242 00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:15,600 Speaker 4: That's just how it is. And if you've never been 1243 00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:17,320 Speaker 4: in a city, it is shocking. But if you've lived 1244 00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:19,080 Speaker 4: in cities, you're like, hey, that's just part of it. 1245 00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:23,120 Speaker 4: It's part of being in the city. But there are 1246 00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:25,840 Speaker 4: so many beautiful areas out there. I was, look, Portland 1247 00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:29,120 Speaker 4: the most bike friendly city I've ever visited. I was 1248 00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:32,120 Speaker 4: zipping around that city on e bikes, left and right, 1249 00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:36,400 Speaker 4: hopping on trains, going down to different restaurants, different parks. 1250 00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:38,960 Speaker 4: Went to this, uh, this is mount like little park 1251 00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:41,560 Speaker 4: called Mount Tabor. It's like a little mountain hill. You 1252 00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:43,080 Speaker 4: can ride a bike all the way up to the top. 1253 00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:45,360 Speaker 4: Had views of the city, got to talk to There's 1254 00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:47,160 Speaker 4: like just a couple up there walking around. We were 1255 00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:50,439 Speaker 4: talking to them, so it was it was just there's 1256 00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:53,640 Speaker 4: so much good food. It feels almost like you're going 1257 00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:57,160 Speaker 4: in like like a little time capsule, because Portland is 1258 00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:59,800 Speaker 4: weird and people are definitely dressed like it is nineteen 1259 00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:02,200 Speaker 4: nine three out there and it's like the grun scene. 1260 00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:04,840 Speaker 4: I was like, I feel like I've traveled back at time. 1261 00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:07,600 Speaker 4: But it was just cool to see there's so many 1262 00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:09,520 Speaker 4: like they like a lot of their food scene. Come sure, 1263 00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:11,760 Speaker 4: you know it's a city is expensive like any other places. 1264 00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:14,120 Speaker 4: A lot of restaurants have these like food trucks and 1265 00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:15,880 Speaker 4: trailers that they park together and it'll be like a 1266 00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:18,760 Speaker 4: whole like little park of just like trailers, all these 1267 00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:21,440 Speaker 4: different food. Which is once when they had music playing, 1268 00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:23,360 Speaker 4: they had like I had like this great Japanese sandwich 1269 00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:26,040 Speaker 4: from these people who wore from Japan who set up 1270 00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:31,120 Speaker 4: this this this sandwich shop that was amazing museums. Yeah, 1271 00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:35,600 Speaker 4: sandwich I was like a you know, like a Japanese sando. 1272 00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:37,919 Speaker 4: It was like anyone used like a soft milk bread. 1273 00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:43,160 Speaker 4: It's like like a fried chicken or pork little katsu. 1274 00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:44,920 Speaker 2: I love. 1275 00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:48,680 Speaker 4: It was so good and so I'm. 1276 00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:50,640 Speaker 2: Like, you know what, prepping too long? 1277 00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:53,520 Speaker 1: I just want to take something different. I'm so sick 1278 00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:54,840 Speaker 1: of salmon and chime. 1279 00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:59,280 Speaker 4: Saying you came to Portland. I could have taken you 1280 00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:01,840 Speaker 4: to some of those plays, but you weren't there, so 1281 00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:02,800 Speaker 4: you missed out. 1282 00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:08,560 Speaker 2: You know that Twilight music girl, I don't know what that. 1283 00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:10,560 Speaker 4: I didn't know what. 1284 00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:15,080 Speaker 1: Oh, y'all are not on my side of TikTok no. 1285 00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:17,800 Speaker 4: I think whatever you did was never on TikTok I 1286 00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:18,880 Speaker 4: don't know where that was. 1287 00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:21,120 Speaker 3: I was like, what is that to do with. 1288 00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:22,880 Speaker 4: You? 1289 00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:26,840 Speaker 3: When there's living around the ploorest on the north? 1290 00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:28,360 Speaker 4: Is this a frozen. 1291 00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:30,760 Speaker 2: Music you sing? 1292 00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:31,960 Speaker 4: I didn't know what was happening. 1293 00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:37,800 Speaker 3: I was confused if you could it out into into hymn. 1294 00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:41,720 Speaker 1: Were you in Portland as a flyover on your way. 1295 00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:45,400 Speaker 2: To Hawaii or just like was that a destination? 1296 00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:46,240 Speaker 4: Oh? 1297 00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:49,240 Speaker 2: When she went to you, weren't you in Hawaii recently? 1298 00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:51,200 Speaker 4: I did get to go to Hawaiian, I know, but 1299 00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:53,959 Speaker 4: I was in fortand Fan Con. That's why I was here. 1300 00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:58,200 Speaker 3: That's why was that girl He was japping at you 1301 00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:00,920 Speaker 3: the whole time about going to Scortland, not going to 1302 01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:01,440 Speaker 3: Big Con. 1303 01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:04,240 Speaker 4: It went right over you was so far away from 1304 01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:05,920 Speaker 4: ever coming to fix us. She didn't even get the 1305 01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:13,200 Speaker 4: jokes even just for my bad bad Yeah, shout out 1306 01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:15,320 Speaker 4: to Portland, keeping it weird. 1307 01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:17,400 Speaker 3: Were shouting out Portland. We should also shout out the 1308 01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:21,120 Speaker 3: federal judge who blocked Trump's National Guard deployment to Portland, 1309 01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:23,880 Speaker 3: because I think that's like breaking news and honestly so 1310 01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:26,080 Speaker 3: important in the follow that order. 1311 01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:27,920 Speaker 1: I'm afraid for the day when he stops listening in 1312 01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:29,000 Speaker 1: judge's orders. 1313 01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:32,200 Speaker 4: Well, listening the California National Guard up there now. 1314 01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:36,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's honestly, it's a lot like there. I don't 1315 01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:37,360 Speaker 3: know if y'all have heard of these stories, but there 1316 01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:39,200 Speaker 3: are a couple of stories about a bunch of people 1317 01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:41,960 Speaker 3: who are just being murdered on ships that are like 1318 01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:45,520 Speaker 3: throughout the Caribbean, off the coast of Venezuela, and every 1319 01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:49,320 Speaker 3: possible international law or maritime law is being broken by 1320 01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:52,680 Speaker 3: this Trump administration because they have not to this day, 1321 01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:56,920 Speaker 3: not presented any evidence that these boats were indeed filled 1322 01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:59,560 Speaker 3: with drugs. But yet they're like, oh, we're just trying 1323 01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:01,920 Speaker 3: to vent these boats from bringing all these drugs to America. 1324 01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:04,080 Speaker 3: So they just bombed them and killed like twenty something 1325 01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:06,800 Speaker 3: people so far in the past thirty days. Imagine just 1326 01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:09,080 Speaker 3: murdering one person every day for the past month, and 1327 01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:11,640 Speaker 3: nobody's talking about it and it hasn't really been on 1328 01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:14,120 Speaker 3: the news that much. I haven't seen people posting about it. 1329 01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:17,600 Speaker 3: And it's like such a blatant, like violation of international 1330 01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:20,720 Speaker 3: and maritime law. So I hear you, Mandy, I am 1331 01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:22,560 Speaker 3: a little nervous about the like, does he even care 1332 01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:25,320 Speaker 3: about what judges are saying he can can't do because 1333 01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:30,960 Speaker 3: clearly there's no concern over violating international law in those cases. 1334 01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:34,120 Speaker 3: But at least the judge did what she's supposed to do. 1335 01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:38,120 Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, Well, Supreme Courts back in session this week, 1336 01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:39,880 Speaker 1: so we go. I think this is the first, like 1337 01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:41,520 Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe the second time they've been in 1338 01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:46,360 Speaker 1: session this year. But we'll see if he follows anything 1339 01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:47,720 Speaker 1: that they say, because I know a lot of the 1340 01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:49,480 Speaker 1: cases that they're hearing have to do with shit he'd 1341 01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:53,920 Speaker 1: been trying to do, these National Guard deployments and ice 1342 01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:54,880 Speaker 1: raids and all of that. 1343 01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:58,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, giving really happening. 1344 01:01:58,600 --> 01:01:59,280 Speaker 2: It's really giving. 1345 01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:02,880 Speaker 1: Like Israel, everyone that they bombed in Gaza was Hamas 1346 01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:05,440 Speaker 1: you know, was harboring her home. It was it's all propa. 1347 01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:07,240 Speaker 1: You know, a lot of propaganda. We have to really 1348 01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:12,040 Speaker 1: be I was gonna say mistrustful, but just like. 1349 01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:14,560 Speaker 3: No, a healthy level of examining. 1350 01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:17,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, skeptical, that's the right word. Skeptical of everything that's 1351 01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:18,680 Speaker 1: coming out of this administration. 1352 01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:20,800 Speaker 3: I agree, m hmm. 1353 01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:23,320 Speaker 2: But that was supposed to be a boost. Well, thank 1354 01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:24,400 Speaker 2: you Chris for taking us to it. 1355 01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:27,320 Speaker 1: How was Hawaii? What's Chris like in Hawaii? What were 1356 01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:28,800 Speaker 1: what was happening over there? 1357 01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:34,480 Speaker 4: Oh? Well, Southwest? I got a companion passed through their 1358 01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:36,840 Speaker 4: promo day going on? Did you get did you see that? 1359 01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:38,040 Speaker 4: You know other day, like if you would be like 1360 01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:40,280 Speaker 4: a ropter flight And I got it for two months 1361 01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:42,200 Speaker 4: and so we're like, well, where can you go on Southwest? 1362 01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:44,920 Speaker 4: And I was like, We're like, oh, Hawaii, And so 1363 01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:47,760 Speaker 4: we ended up using it to go to Kawai and 1364 01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:52,520 Speaker 4: the Big Island and it was so so beautiful. I 1365 01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:54,400 Speaker 4: mean it's hot and humid, but you're on the island. 1366 01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:56,400 Speaker 4: That's what you expect and so but I was like, 1367 01:02:56,560 --> 01:02:59,440 Speaker 4: you know, just just getting the island breeze, eating some 1368 01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:04,000 Speaker 4: food with uh no so dolphins though, almost got seastick 1369 01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:06,240 Speaker 4: on a boat because I'm like, oh, I don't really 1370 01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:07,560 Speaker 4: go on boats like that, and I would, but it 1371 01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:09,720 Speaker 4: was still beautiful. Get around the I think it's the 1372 01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:14,680 Speaker 4: Nepali coast on Kawhi, the Big Island. 1373 01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:17,000 Speaker 3: You would love it, many you would love it. 1374 01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:19,560 Speaker 4: I know it's a trick Look, that's far from someone 1375 01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:21,400 Speaker 4: on the East Coast. That's like a twelve hour flight. 1376 01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:24,520 Speaker 1: Damn near across. I might as well keep going to Japan. 1377 01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:28,760 Speaker 3: But worth it. Yeah, you get exactly. You do a 1378 01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:30,720 Speaker 3: trip to the West Coast and then you stay for 1379 01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:32,400 Speaker 3: a day, and then you do a trip to Hawaii 1380 01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:35,640 Speaker 3: and he lived, Yeah. 1381 01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:36,959 Speaker 4: Just make your way around the world, come. 1382 01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:37,680 Speaker 2: Back to America. 1383 01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:40,720 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, why do you want to question? 1384 01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:42,320 Speaker 1: Why do you want to come on the Jello ship? 1385 01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:47,640 Speaker 1: I hear that you had some R and R and 1386 01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:50,800 Speaker 1: how is the sleepy time? Sleepy Talk Sleepy to Me. 1387 01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:52,720 Speaker 4: Let me just cut you off because you just given 1388 01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:55,920 Speaker 4: all the wrong names Talk Sleepy to Me. There you go. 1389 01:03:56,560 --> 01:03:59,200 Speaker 4: The podcast is called Talk Sleepy to Me. The official 1390 01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:01,200 Speaker 4: trailer and all that. It's out and now you can 1391 01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:03,760 Speaker 4: subscribe to it. You can follow it and. 1392 01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:06,480 Speaker 2: Just the trailer. When's the first. 1393 01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:08,600 Speaker 4: First episode is coming out? Next week? Next week the 1394 01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:12,080 Speaker 4: first episode will be launching, and uh yeah, I love 1395 01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:14,520 Speaker 4: to get any feedback from people listening. And you want 1396 01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:14,760 Speaker 4: me to. 1397 01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:16,760 Speaker 1: Moonlight, I can do like a little Twilight for you 1398 01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:17,520 Speaker 1: for one of your. 1399 01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:22,200 Speaker 4: The thing is, I would like the podcast to survive 1400 01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:26,000 Speaker 4: if it keep going. And I feel like that. 1401 01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:27,960 Speaker 2: And I'm like brow, I'm really nailing it. 1402 01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:32,680 Speaker 4: I mean you, I love that. I love that confidence 1403 01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:33,560 Speaker 4: you have in yourself. 1404 01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:39,120 Speaker 2: I feel like Hillary Duff and yes. 1405 01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:43,320 Speaker 3: Yes that is accurate. All right, y'all, I just hit 1406 01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:47,480 Speaker 3: the follow button on Spotify Talk Sleepy to Me, Chris Browning. 1407 01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:50,520 Speaker 3: I can't wait for the first episode. I cannot wait. 1408 01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:53,880 Speaker 4: I appreciate it. Just so y'all know, if you're all nervous, 1409 01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:56,480 Speaker 4: Mandy will not be on that podcast, So you're safe 1410 01:04:56,520 --> 01:04:57,840 Speaker 4: to subscribe. 1411 01:04:58,440 --> 01:04:59,200 Speaker 2: We'll see if it works. 1412 01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:01,160 Speaker 1: Because drink here is in the news again for being 1413 01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:03,400 Speaker 1: showing her ass, and I've been listening. I fall asleep 1414 01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:05,480 Speaker 1: to Harry Potter every night. I'm not ashamed to admit that. 1415 01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:07,400 Speaker 1: So maybe a little something different would help. 1416 01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:08,920 Speaker 4: Shake it up a little bit. 1417 01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:11,120 Speaker 2: Well, thank y'all so. 1418 01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:12,680 Speaker 1: Much for doing the Brown Table with me. I really 1419 01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:16,480 Speaker 1: missed y'all. Hopefully we can do another one the next 1420 01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:17,080 Speaker 1: few weeks. 1421 01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:18,080 Speaker 2: We can get it together. 1422 01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:21,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, sure we could. You know, we could have done 1423 01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:25,080 Speaker 4: in person in Portland, but hey, that opportunity is gone. 1424 01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:30,840 Speaker 1: You know, bitterness really rots the soul from within and 1425 01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:32,360 Speaker 1: I wouldn't want that for my friend. 1426 01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:34,600 Speaker 2: You know, I want you to be liked. 1427 01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:36,920 Speaker 4: Thanks for looking out for me. I appreciate it. 1428 01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:43,160 Speaker 1: All right, Love y'all be well, take care, NBA fam 1429 01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:46,440 Speaker 1: love you even more. Don't forget to leave us a 1430 01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:50,160 Speaker 1: review while you're at it. Comments on Spotify, on YouTube, Oh, 1431 01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:51,959 Speaker 1: that's where I forgot to look for comments. I'm gonna 1432 01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:52,800 Speaker 1: go to YouTube next time. 1433 01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:53,200 Speaker 2: Y'all. 1434 01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:57,320 Speaker 1: Shout out our YouTube listeners and our Patreon. Don't forget 1435 01:05:57,320 --> 01:05:59,400 Speaker 1: to sign up for the Patreon, where you can join 1436 01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:02,680 Speaker 1: Brown Table sessions live in our audience. Go to Patreon 1437 01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:06,760 Speaker 1: dot com Slash Brown Ambition and I'll be announcing our 1438 01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:09,560 Speaker 1: November December book club pick very very soon, so make 1439 01:06:09,560 --> 01:06:15,720 Speaker 1: sure you stay tuned and we'll see y'all next time. Bye, 1440 01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:21,120 Speaker 1: okayva fam, Thank you so much for listening to this 1441 01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:25,160 Speaker 1: week's show. I want to shout out to our production team, Courtney, 1442 01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:30,160 Speaker 1: our editor, Carla, our fearless leader for idea to launch productions. 1443 01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:34,040 Speaker 1: I want to shout out my assistant Lauda Escalante and 1444 01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:37,480 Speaker 1: Cameron McNair for helping me put the show together. It 1445 01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:41,120 Speaker 1: is not a one person project, as much as I 1446 01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:43,720 Speaker 1: have tried to make it so these past ten years. 1447 01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:47,080 Speaker 1: I need help, y'all, and thank goodness I've been able 1448 01:06:47,120 --> 01:06:49,440 Speaker 1: to put this team around me to support me on 1449 01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:51,720 Speaker 1: this journey and to y'all be a fam. 1450 01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:52,360 Speaker 2: I love you. 1451 01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:53,920 Speaker 3: So so so so much. 1452 01:06:54,560 --> 01:06:57,120 Speaker 1: Please rate, review, subscribe, make sure you're signed up to 1453 01:06:57,120 --> 01:07:00,720 Speaker 1: the newsletter to get all the latest updates on upcoming episodes, 1454 01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:05,959 Speaker 1: our tent, your anniversary celebrations to come, and until next time, 1455 01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:07,880 Speaker 1: talk to you soon via bye