WEBVTT - “DID JAIL MAKE MY DAD RACIST?”

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<v Speaker 1>Hello.

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<v Speaker 2>What is your name? My name is Alison Allison. How

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<v Speaker 2>you doing?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm good? How are you?

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<v Speaker 2>You know? I can't complain I'm caffeinated, I'm alert, I'm attentive.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't always say the same. I can't always say

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<v Speaker 2>that with confidence. To be honest, I've actually been getting

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<v Speaker 2>like a few comments on you can like comment on

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<v Speaker 2>podcasts on Spotify now, and I'll look at my Spotify

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<v Speaker 2>comments and I'll occasional I'll get a few that say, like,

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<v Speaker 2>is Lyle drunk? And I'm like, oh god, people can

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<v Speaker 2>tell I'm not drunk. But I guess I'm not always

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<v Speaker 2>as alert and attentive as I would like to be.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess we can thank stimulants. I'm on a Celsius

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<v Speaker 2>right now. Shout out to Celsius. I've found that drinking

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<v Speaker 2>a Celsius or a coffee before I do one of

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<v Speaker 2>these streams is kind of like the key to being

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<v Speaker 2>able to be attentive and Okay, But I guess that's bad, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I should be able to function without caffeine.

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<v Speaker 1>But I was gonna say, does it is it a

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<v Speaker 1>little draining? I was gonna say, is it a little

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<v Speaker 1>draining to like talk to people all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, definitely. It's definitely draining, but I on the day,

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<v Speaker 2>I like doing it on the days that I like

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<v Speaker 2>doing it, And like, in this very moment, as I'm

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<v Speaker 2>talking to you, I feel, like I said, very alert

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<v Speaker 2>and attentive and good. So I'm ready to chit chat

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<v Speaker 2>on the phone. Well enough about my my green little ass.

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<v Speaker 2>What's up with you?

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<v Speaker 3>Man?

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<v Speaker 2>Would you want to talk about today?

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<v Speaker 1>Not much. I didn't expect you to call me. Tonight's

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<v Speaker 1>like the one night that I was like, maybe I

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<v Speaker 1>won't send a text. I've been like trying a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, I'm just gonna like chill and

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<v Speaker 1>like here you are. So I'm like super stoked and unprepared.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, what is it you'd like to talk about?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, there's a few things I could talk about. The

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<v Speaker 1>thing that I thought would be like most therapy get

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<v Speaker 1>go esque is I have. So Actually, tonight's like the

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<v Speaker 1>perfect night. My dad was over tonight and he so,

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<v Speaker 1>to make it short, he spent ten years in jail

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<v Speaker 1>and got out about five years ago when I first

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<v Speaker 1>graduated high school, and he went to jail for I

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<v Speaker 1>guess you could like say attempted murder of my I

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<v Speaker 1>call her my half mom. She's basically my half brother's mom,

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<v Speaker 1>who is also oddly enough best friends with my mom.

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<v Speaker 1>Now it's a super weird, interesting relationship. But yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>he tried to kill her, and he got out of

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<v Speaker 1>jail about five years ago, and I just now started

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<v Speaker 1>to like build a relationship with him. But there's like

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a hang up because he he

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<v Speaker 1>apparently was in a gang called the Aryan Brotherhood, and

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<v Speaker 1>he swears it was just for like survival in jail,

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<v Speaker 1>but he still has like swastika tattoos. And I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if you know anything about Aryan Brotherhood, but they're

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like a racist based gang from what I understand.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're trying to navigate if we want that I

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<v Speaker 1>just had a baby three months ago, and we're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to navigate if it's like a good idea to have

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<v Speaker 1>him around, if there's potential for him to still be

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<v Speaker 1>that way. But he doesn't really act that way. But

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<v Speaker 1>then sometimes he says things that are like like the

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<v Speaker 1>other day, he said something like about these people that

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<v Speaker 1>he knew and they were people's color, and he was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like they're black, but they're super nice though, and me

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<v Speaker 1>and my husband both kind of were like, oh, like

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if that was That kind of indicates

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of like why would you think that

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<v Speaker 1>they wouldn't be nice? So, yeah, I want to know

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<v Speaker 1>what you think about that.

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<v Speaker 2>Hmm, well what do I think about that? So your dad,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess from the beginning, So your dad fifteen years

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<v Speaker 2>ago tried to kill your who you call your half mom?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes? Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you call her your half mom? Because like I

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<v Speaker 2>assume you have a biological mom?

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<v Speaker 5>That.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's a a dumb thing to assume, because

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<v Speaker 2>I guess everybody does. Do you have contact with your

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<v Speaker 2>biological mom? I do? Yes? Okay, So this woman is

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<v Speaker 2>like your dad's like ex girlfriend who like you're still

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<v Speaker 2>cool with?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes? Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>And why did your dad try to kill her?

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<v Speaker 1>So he was definitely on drugs and apparently there was

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<v Speaker 1>like a bad night where she may have had some

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<v Speaker 1>other men around and he like kind of lost it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. It's kind of like the way I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of look at it with them is like they

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<v Speaker 1>both of them are known to lie. So I'll never

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<v Speaker 1>actually know the full truth of what happened, but from

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<v Speaker 1>what I can kind of gather from both sides. There

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<v Speaker 1>was definitely some sort of disagreement or jealousy, and drugs

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<v Speaker 1>fueled a lot of it, and one thing led to

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<v Speaker 1>another And yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, And so throughout the ten years that your dad

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<v Speaker 2>was in jail, you were still cool with your half mom? Yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>and once he once your dad got out, was are

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<v Speaker 2>him and your half mom cool or is she kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like, hey, you kinds tried to kill me?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, So this is like a whole other layer

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<v Speaker 1>to it. But she is African American and so him

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<v Speaker 1>joining the Arian brotherhood, he has a son with her

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<v Speaker 1>who's my half brother. And yeah, and so that's like

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<v Speaker 1>a big hang up too, because now he doesn't he

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<v Speaker 1>is so proud to be like my dad. But this

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<v Speaker 1>this brother is a minor, so there is that. So

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<v Speaker 1>there is a restraining order. So it's hard for him

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<v Speaker 1>to even have a relationship with him. But sometimes I

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<v Speaker 1>wonder if he actually wants him in his life or

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<v Speaker 1>if he's just saying that to get my approval, because

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<v Speaker 1>when I push, like.

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<v Speaker 2>Proving the brother whose brother is this?

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<v Speaker 1>He's my brother and he's my dad's son and the

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<v Speaker 1>half mom's son as.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, oh, okay, all right. So he's your half brother, yes, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>and I assume that being in the Aryan brotherhood has

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<v Speaker 2>given your half mom.

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<v Speaker 1>The ick, you know, I think that's safe to assume.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So your half brother has a restraining order against your.

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<v Speaker 1>Dad, my half mom, and because he's a minor, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it like kind of umbrellas over him as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so your half mom has a restraining order against

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<v Speaker 2>your dad, which also applies to your half brother because

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<v Speaker 2>he's a minor. Correct, all right, So that restraining order

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<v Speaker 2>answers the question of whether or not your dad and

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<v Speaker 2>your half mom are cool now, yes, yes, okay, but

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<v Speaker 2>you and her are still cool.

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<v Speaker 1>We were cool for a very long time, but around

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<v Speaker 1>the time that I moved out when I was eighteen,

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<v Speaker 1>we became uncool because it's like a whole nother story.

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<v Speaker 1>My mom is like kind of a narcissist, and so

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<v Speaker 1>they're like bfs my half mom with my mom. And

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<v Speaker 1>so when I was fighting with my mom and I

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<v Speaker 1>got kicked out, the half mom showed up to the

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<v Speaker 1>place I was staying with a gun, and like, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a whole thing. So we're not cool now. But my

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<v Speaker 1>brother and I are tight. I love him, he's great.

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<v Speaker 2>So you wait, so your mom, your biological mom is

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<v Speaker 2>now cool. She's not even cool. Your biological mom is

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<v Speaker 2>BFFs with your half mom, who her ex husband tried

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<v Speaker 2>to kill. Yes, so I assume that your biological mom

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<v Speaker 2>also hates your dad. Yes, that's pretty crazy. And when

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<v Speaker 2>you say your brother, your friend, and your half brother,

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<v Speaker 2>and so you and your sixteen year old brother are very.

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<v Speaker 1>Cool, yes, yes we are.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So five years ago your dad got out of jail,

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<v Speaker 2>and then when did he try to come back into

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<v Speaker 2>your life?

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<v Speaker 1>Honestly, like the same month I think that he got

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<v Speaker 1>out of jail, and I had a lot of pent

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<v Speaker 1>up emotions about it, so I didn't really interact with

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<v Speaker 1>him much. And then I basically told him one day,

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<v Speaker 1>like for me to trust even trying to trust him,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna have to wait, like I need to see

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<v Speaker 1>him be good for a couple of years and be

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<v Speaker 1>consistent before he can come into my life.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, And have you has has the behavior that you've

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<v Speaker 2>seen over the past five years been up to like

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<v Speaker 2>what you desired?

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<v Speaker 1>Honestly for the most part. Yet it's like super surprising

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<v Speaker 1>because somehow my mom, who was in my life my

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<v Speaker 1>whole life, is having more trouble building a relationship with

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<v Speaker 1>me than my dad, who was pretty much absent my

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<v Speaker 1>whole life. But then there's that part where it's like

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<v Speaker 1>he has swaps the ka tattoos and he was a

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<v Speaker 1>part of this racist gang and doesn't fully acknowledge my

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<v Speaker 1>brother and says these comments that might seem a little racist,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're like.

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<v Speaker 2>What, being in the brotherhood is a whole thing. It

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<v Speaker 2>is a whole It is a thing. It is definitely

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<v Speaker 2>a thing, Like.

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<v Speaker 1>It is not to be taken lightly, Like I do

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<v Speaker 1>not want to be a racist person apologist or like

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<v Speaker 1>try to be like cool with that at all, Like

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<v Speaker 1>that is not okay with me, especially if he's not

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<v Speaker 1>going to acknowledge my half brother.

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<v Speaker 2>Has he tried to have a relationship with your half

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<v Speaker 2>brother in the same way that he's tried to have

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<v Speaker 2>a relationship with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Because of the restraining order, it makes it really hard,

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<v Speaker 1>but he has expressed it when I bring it up.

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<v Speaker 1>But I wonder how genuine he is about that, or

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<v Speaker 1>if he's kind of using the restraining order as like

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<v Speaker 1>his excuse not to be around.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, like he can have his cake and eat it

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<v Speaker 2>too by pretending he wants a relationship, but he also

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<v Speaker 2>can't because of their restraining order.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I have your brother. Is he your brother? Sixteen?

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<v Speaker 2>You said he's a minor. Yep, all right, so I

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<v Speaker 2>guess in a couple of years if he wants to,

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<v Speaker 2>he can reach out. Mm hmm. How old are you?

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<v Speaker 1>I am twenty five?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, And so you just hung out with your dad today.

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<v Speaker 2>So how long have you and your dad been hanging out.

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<v Speaker 1>I just had my baby three months ago and I

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<v Speaker 1>want to stay around two and a half months. And

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<v Speaker 1>so well we're like close to court. He's come over

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<v Speaker 1>with maybe the last like months and a half.

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<v Speaker 2>Ish, so it's so it's been kind of fresh that

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<v Speaker 2>you've been so okay. So he when he first got

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<v Speaker 2>out of jail, you were like, give me a few

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<v Speaker 2>years so that I can see that you're, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>not crazy. And you gave him a few years. You

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<v Speaker 2>were like, all right, maybe you're not crazy. And he's

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<v Speaker 2>been coming over for the past two months and things

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<v Speaker 2>have been chilled.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh huh, exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So look, I mean, do you do you want

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<v Speaker 2>to have a relationship with him.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's nor for any kid to want to

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<v Speaker 1>have a relationship with their parents. But I also know that, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to tolerate racist behavior.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you asked him why he doesn't get the tattoos removed.

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<v Speaker 1>It's something that's been kind of nervous to approach. But

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<v Speaker 1>we've been Me and my husband have been talking about

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<v Speaker 1>it more and we're thinking about jumping on the opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>to do that soon.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's fair. I think I think if you

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<v Speaker 2>set the thing of hey, listen, you can be in

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<v Speaker 2>my life and uh, you can be a grandfather to

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<v Speaker 2>my kid, but you got to quit the Aryan brotherhood.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that, you know, when you put it like that,

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<v Speaker 1>it really is reasonable, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's a solid pitch.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're right.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I don't know. I don't know what's so

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<v Speaker 2>great about the area and brother. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>they give him health insurance or kind of what's going

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<v Speaker 2>on over there. But yeah, you know, I think that's.

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<v Speaker 1>A fair pitch, you know, And I think if he

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<v Speaker 1>gives me any pushback, I might just genuinely ask, like,

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<v Speaker 1>what benefits are there to be in a racist group.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, they have dental Well, how old is a baby?

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<v Speaker 1>She is three and a half months, She's fifteen weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh cool, how's being a mom?

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<v Speaker 1>Honestly, it's something I always knew I wanted to do,

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<v Speaker 1>like even better than I thought. Hm, it comes with

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<v Speaker 1>the challenges.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, what's your husband think about all this stuff?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm curious.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that I am one of the luckiest people

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<v Speaker 1>in the world, and I have the best husband in

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<v Speaker 1>the world, and he just supports whatever I want and

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<v Speaker 1>he just cares about my dad being as good of

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<v Speaker 1>a person as he can be.

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<v Speaker 2>That's cool. Yeah, well, let me know what he says.

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<v Speaker 2>If i'm I'm I've started to I we did. I

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<v Speaker 2>did a follow up call for the first time a

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<v Speaker 2>few podcasts ago, and I'm gonna I'm gonna open up

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<v Speaker 2>the invitation for follow up calls. If if a person call,

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<v Speaker 2>if a person has a genuine update, if you, if

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<v Speaker 2>you if you talk to your dad, uh, let me

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<v Speaker 2>know if he if he uh chooses you or the

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<v Speaker 2>area and brotherhood, I will.

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<v Speaker 1>I would be happy to let you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there anything else you I say to the people

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<v Speaker 2>of the computer before we.

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<v Speaker 1>Go, I would like to say that, Josh, if you're listening,

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<v Speaker 1>I love you so much, and you're the best husband

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<v Speaker 1>in the world, and you're the best father in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>And as a young Shakespeare would say, buck bitches get money.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess he did he say that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he did. I think it's somewhere in.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for calling, man, have a good rest of your life.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for calling.

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<v Speaker 2>Bye bye, Damn. I forgot her name at the end,

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<v Speaker 2>so I call her man. I just gotta be honest,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what happens, and that I got kind of awkward,

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<v Speaker 2>and I told her to have a good life. I

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<v Speaker 2>what's your name? Tyler? Tyler? You just you sent me

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<v Speaker 2>a text and you just wrote in all caps crazymethhead

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<v Speaker 2>dot dot dot but gave her a chance? What does

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<v Speaker 2>that mean?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so basically my ex at this point. So I

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<v Speaker 5>met her back in October, and at first, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>I was just like, I don't know if this is

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<v Speaker 5>the girl I want to be with, blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 5>But then you know, we had fun and it was

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<v Speaker 5>really nice and it was really cool. And but then

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<v Speaker 5>like we went to this hotel because she and me

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<v Speaker 5>up like we was like sleeping the We're laying down

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<v Speaker 5>in bed and stuff. And she was like, well, do

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<v Speaker 5>you know I have a three with my friend. And

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<v Speaker 5>I was like, I mean, I'm just a man geck go.

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<v Speaker 5>So I was like, fuck it, I'm down, you know

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<v Speaker 5>what I mean. And yeah, She's like, we can go

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<v Speaker 5>to this hotel. My friend's really cool. And at the

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<v Speaker 5>time I wasn't I'm gonna get set up. But thet

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<v Speaker 5>she showed her friend and I was like, okay, you

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<v Speaker 5>know what, we didn't take the risks. We don't roll

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<v Speaker 5>the dice, you know. So we ended up I ended

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<v Speaker 5>up going and yeah, so I was waiting, She's getting

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<v Speaker 5>a friend into it all that, like talking with her.

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<v Speaker 5>I was there living waiting, but it is like finding more.

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<v Speaker 5>By this time, I'm tired as fuck. So I end

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<v Speaker 5>up just waiting there and I said like, do you

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<v Speaker 5>have any like maybe red bull or some cocaine, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>and she said like yeah, I'll figure it out. I'll

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<v Speaker 5>help you. And I'm asleep. I'm on the couch like

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<v Speaker 5>a sleep. She wakes me up and she has this

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<v Speaker 5>like paper in front of me, and I'm like, what

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<v Speaker 5>is this? I did ask what is this because I

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<v Speaker 5>was barely looking up, so I was out of it,

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<v Speaker 5>and I was assuming coke, you know, because you know

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<v Speaker 5>someone's offering you something, I would assume that, right, But

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<v Speaker 5>now I you know, I hit it and I like

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<v Speaker 5>a do line, you know, and it hurt really bad.

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<v Speaker 5>And I've done coke a couple of times, so I

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<v Speaker 5>was like, this is some strong coat and she's like, no,

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<v Speaker 5>it's mess and yeah, I was like, what do you

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<v Speaker 5>read it's fucking man. And I was really upset, but

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<v Speaker 5>you know, I like it hit and I was like,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, I gotta see you through. Get the job DoD.

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<v Speaker 5>But afterwards I was really like distraught, you know. So

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<v Speaker 5>I was like, this is the girl I was thinking about,

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<v Speaker 5>like be with. But then I figured out she does

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<v Speaker 5>mess and I was like damn. And then she kind

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<v Speaker 5>of drugged.

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<v Speaker 2>Me and I was like wow, wait, hold on, hold on,

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<v Speaker 2>hold on, hold on. Okay, Yeah, so it's five o'clock

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<v Speaker 2>in the morning and this woman puts some paper some

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<v Speaker 2>powder in front of you. You say paper or powder?

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<v Speaker 5>It was a paper with powder on it.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, did you ask her what it was?

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<v Speaker 4>No?

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<v Speaker 5>Because I was barely kind of sleep and I was

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<v Speaker 5>assuming coke because I told her coke and red Bull,

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<v Speaker 5>and I wouldn't be was red bull.

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<v Speaker 2>So okay, I don't know if that's okay.

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<v Speaker 5>All right, Well at this time, I did know her

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<v Speaker 5>for three weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>So okay, all right, So you took the meth and

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<v Speaker 2>then did you? I guess what happened after that?

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<v Speaker 5>It kind of like changed her perspective on a relationship

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<v Speaker 5>with her, because I was like, Wow, this girl seemed

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<v Speaker 5>really cool, and she said she was bipolar. But I

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<v Speaker 5>was like, like after the fact, like, okay, she said

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<v Speaker 5>she's bipolar, and I was like just thinking bad. And

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<v Speaker 5>I've never really hung around like people that have done that,

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<v Speaker 5>so I didn't really know how to be. I just

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<v Speaker 5>thought she was about public a little crazy, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>a little crazy and that bad. And yeah, no, after that,

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<v Speaker 5>I kind of started talking to her for a couple

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<v Speaker 5>of weeks and then kind of fell back into it.

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<v Speaker 5>She said she got clean, but I don't know if

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<v Speaker 5>don't believe her, you know, because she's still be a

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<v Speaker 5>little crazy and I'm like she says, she got clean

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<v Speaker 5>for me, But it's like, you'd be doing this stuff

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<v Speaker 5>for six years and then all of a sudden, you

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<v Speaker 5>got clean for me. Kind of doesn't seem very possible,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, And I gave her a chance. We started talking,

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<v Speaker 5>started dating. I told her, you know, let me joy

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<v Speaker 5>testing you, check you on you here and there, like

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<v Speaker 5>I'm here to support you.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Well, so you're you're drug testing her.

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<v Speaker 5>Well anymore? I mean, because I'm kind of like she

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<v Speaker 5>still blows my phone up like thirty times a day.

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<v Speaker 5>But you know, I kind of like tried to distance

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<v Speaker 5>a little bit because I was drug testing her, but

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<v Speaker 5>then like she didn't want to do it anymore. That

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<v Speaker 5>was kind of like why is that? Because are you

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<v Speaker 5>doing it? And she said nah?

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<v Speaker 2>So I was like, okay, but dude, what hold on week? Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>All right? First of all, how old are you? Man?

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<v Speaker 5>Twenty three?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay? What what's your deal?

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<v Speaker 3>Man?

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<v Speaker 2>What's what's going on with you? Are you still? Are

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<v Speaker 2>you doing drugs?

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<v Speaker 4>No?

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<v Speaker 5>No, no, no, I actually just graduated last week for

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<v Speaker 5>in psychology. I'm not really into drugs like that, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>just party casual. That's how I knew that wasn't coke,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, because.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, are you still doing coke?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 5>I don't do coke. I mean it's just like here

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<v Speaker 5>and there at a party. You know it's going good

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<v Speaker 5>like college parties.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you don't do coke. Just sometimes do coke. I partake,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, partaking is doing well, there's sometimes do Look

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<v Speaker 2>it's I also I'll do cocaine maybe once a year. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>like it's fine, but you know, yeah, all right, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>all right.

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<v Speaker 5>So I would say three to four times every twelve months,

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<v Speaker 5>So yeah a year, three or four times maybe, Okay,

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<v Speaker 5>if I'm feeling maybe six.

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<v Speaker 2>What are do you still talk to this woman?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah? I mean okay, so my mom she's very involved

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<v Speaker 5>on my relationships, and she told me I should cut

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<v Speaker 5>her off. And I tried. I tried every way to

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<v Speaker 5>like push her away without me seeming like the bad guy.

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<v Speaker 5>But it wasn't really like I've tried like every way,

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<v Speaker 5>because she's tried every manipulation mess that there is under

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<v Speaker 5>the sun, like you know, like, oh, I'm with that.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm gonna get myself if you leave all this blah

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<v Speaker 5>blah blah, all these different things, and I'm just like

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<v Speaker 5>I try things like back, like try to be a slob.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, you some fried chicken, you know, like look

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<v Speaker 5>at and stuff like just try to like take her.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, I'm sorry you said you said you've tried

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<v Speaker 2>to get fat so that this woman will leave you alone. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Like it's like the slob method in a way. It's like, okay,

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<v Speaker 5>so if you're.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you are you all right? All this is stuff?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you fucking with me right now? What what is this?

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<v Speaker 5>No? I'm being one hundred percent honest. I mean, okay,

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<v Speaker 5>I know it sounds crazy, like Okay, it's because my

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<v Speaker 5>friend told me about like the slobs. He said, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>if you really want to.

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<v Speaker 2>Hold out, okay, I don't look, man, huh, forget about

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<v Speaker 2>your friend and forget about your mom. What do you

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<v Speaker 2>want to do?

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<v Speaker 5>Man, that's a hard question because I do like her

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<v Speaker 5>as a person, but I just want her to get better.

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<v Speaker 5>And it's like I don't know how to make her

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<v Speaker 5>get better, and.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't do there is there is that doesn't exist.

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<v Speaker 2>There is no how to make her get better.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's what that's what's hard for me. Sact I

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<v Speaker 5>guess because it's like I don't know if it's because

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<v Speaker 5>like the graduated psychology, Like I want to help her,

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<v Speaker 5>but it's like it's really difficult because I do want

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<v Speaker 5>to like cut her off, but it's like I just,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, like part of them, and I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Your friend is a fucking idiot. He told you to

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<v Speaker 2>get fat so that she'll leave you alone. That's actually funny. No,

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<v Speaker 2>your friend's actually not. Your friend's a genius because he

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<v Speaker 2>was just fucking with you.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, yeah, I took.

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<v Speaker 4>I took.

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<v Speaker 5>That's a good line. So like you know what I

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<v Speaker 5>look like like, I'm just like sure liss, like you

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<v Speaker 5>can turn her like all like just unattractive in general,

0:24:49.520 --> 0:24:51.879
<v Speaker 5>maybe she'd be like, Okay, on to the next, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>instead of like being hung up on me, even though

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<v Speaker 5>if I don't believe that, I don't know, because.

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<v Speaker 2>Dude, I don't know how you don't. I don't. Okay,

0:25:00.840 --> 0:25:04.199
<v Speaker 2>in case your mom or your friend hasn't told you this,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't have to talk to anyone you don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to talk to.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I guess a part of me just feels a

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<v Speaker 5>little guilty. It's like I kind of like came into

0:25:15.320 --> 0:25:17.520
<v Speaker 5>her life, you know, promised one thing, and then she's

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<v Speaker 5>like trying to get it back. And I mean she

0:25:20.800 --> 0:25:21.879
<v Speaker 5>did do a lot of things.

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<v Speaker 2>What did you what did you? What did you? What

0:25:24.400 --> 0:25:25.160
<v Speaker 2>did you promise?

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<v Speaker 5>Uh, I'd be like this is a normal stuff, like

0:25:30.000 --> 0:25:32.760
<v Speaker 5>I'd be there for you forever all that, Like yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>like I'm gonna be there for you. I'm gonna help

0:25:34.320 --> 0:25:36.280
<v Speaker 5>you through everything, like I got you, I'm gonna take

0:25:36.320 --> 0:25:37.600
<v Speaker 5>care of you, stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, how old is this girl?

0:25:42.720 --> 0:25:43.359
<v Speaker 5>Twenty five?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, jeez man, I don't know. Well, you can't fix

0:25:53.640 --> 0:25:55.719
<v Speaker 2>this person. You can't fit you can't make a person

0:25:55.800 --> 0:25:58.119
<v Speaker 2>stop doing drugs.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that part of me what I told her, like

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<v Speaker 5>the last time we talked, because she was still blowing

0:26:03.960 --> 0:26:05.800
<v Speaker 5>my phone in here. And now I'll text her like

0:26:06.200 --> 0:26:08.520
<v Speaker 5>I helpe you doing well? You know, I won't answer,

0:26:09.200 --> 0:26:12.880
<v Speaker 5>like I very like sparsely answer her. But I told

0:26:12.880 --> 0:26:14.680
<v Speaker 5>her like, you know, you go to rehab, you got

0:26:14.720 --> 0:26:18.200
<v Speaker 5>your stuff, you know, hit me up. But like, I

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<v Speaker 5>don't know, it's just like kind of like a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of work.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was. Look, I think it was a

0:26:23.000 --> 0:26:27.480
<v Speaker 2>mistake to promise this girl that you would fix her.

0:26:28.480 --> 0:26:32.840
<v Speaker 2>But even though you made that mistake, that doesn't require

0:26:32.960 --> 0:26:39.679
<v Speaker 2>you to like you're not You're not like obligated to

0:26:39.760 --> 0:26:43.840
<v Speaker 2>this girl to like help her through her drug addition.

0:26:43.960 --> 0:26:46.960
<v Speaker 2>That's her cross to bear.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I would. It's just like I don't know. It's

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<v Speaker 5>like I feel like a part of me, like she

0:26:55.240 --> 0:26:56.960
<v Speaker 5>knows that I have a lot of she kind of

0:26:56.960 --> 0:27:00.840
<v Speaker 5>plays on that sometimes and like it's happened in the past,

0:27:00.840 --> 0:27:03.479
<v Speaker 5>and I mean like part of me is like I

0:27:03.680 --> 0:27:06.719
<v Speaker 5>just wonder if she really like cares or she just

0:27:06.720 --> 0:27:09.760
<v Speaker 5>wants like the free like money free like rant all that.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, So are you are you bankrolling her? Well,

0:27:14.280 --> 0:27:18.600
<v Speaker 3>what we were together, I was, Okay, are you still

0:27:18.640 --> 0:27:20.679
<v Speaker 3>giving her money?

0:27:20.960 --> 0:27:23.640
<v Speaker 5>No? No, no, because now she wouldn't do a drug test,

0:27:23.680 --> 0:27:25.639
<v Speaker 5>so I didn't know what she was using money for.

0:27:25.880 --> 0:27:29.760
<v Speaker 2>So it's like, man, dude, I'm just you know what

0:27:29.840 --> 0:27:34.720
<v Speaker 2>I've been I've been neglecting going on advice rants. But

0:27:34.760 --> 0:27:37.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna go on an advice RNT. Can I do that?

0:27:37.040 --> 0:27:38.200
<v Speaker 2>Can I go on an advice rant?

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<v Speaker 5>To you?

0:27:40.160 --> 0:27:41.280
<v Speaker 2>Okay, what's your name again?

0:27:42.640 --> 0:27:43.040
<v Speaker 5>Tyler?

0:27:43.680 --> 0:27:47.320
<v Speaker 2>Tyler? You're twenty three years old? Actually, before I do this,

0:27:47.400 --> 0:27:49.760
<v Speaker 2>what do you okay? Now I remember? Now tell you're

0:27:49.760 --> 0:27:55.040
<v Speaker 2>twenty three years old? You just graduated from college. Fuck you, dude, Like,

0:27:56.240 --> 0:27:59.240
<v Speaker 2>I know that you feel for this woman whose life

0:27:59.480 --> 0:28:02.960
<v Speaker 2>is going through a hard time, but at this stage

0:28:03.080 --> 0:28:05.439
<v Speaker 2>in your life, like dude, you got to put your

0:28:05.520 --> 0:28:09.320
<v Speaker 2>energy into like building up your own life and yourself

0:28:09.680 --> 0:28:14.040
<v Speaker 2>as a person, and you can't abandon all of that

0:28:14.960 --> 0:28:21.240
<v Speaker 2>to go like help this person who I from what

0:28:21.280 --> 0:28:26.080
<v Speaker 2>I understand, you weren't in that much of that strong

0:28:26.119 --> 0:28:29.439
<v Speaker 2>of a relationship with for that long. I don't, I

0:28:29.440 --> 0:28:33.480
<v Speaker 2>don't think, But like, dude, yeah, this woman you've known

0:28:33.560 --> 0:28:36.520
<v Speaker 2>for a couple of months, like you know, God bless her.

0:28:36.560 --> 0:28:38.520
<v Speaker 2>I hope that she figures out what's going on with

0:28:38.560 --> 0:28:41.640
<v Speaker 2>her and that she turns things around. But that's her responsibility,

0:28:41.680 --> 0:28:45.880
<v Speaker 2>not yours. Your responsibility is to go make the best

0:28:46.040 --> 0:28:50.600
<v Speaker 2>of your own life at this very critical time in

0:28:50.640 --> 0:28:53.440
<v Speaker 2>your life, and you should be doing that instead of

0:28:53.960 --> 0:28:58.959
<v Speaker 2>devising sitcom asque plots to get really fat so that

0:28:59.000 --> 0:29:03.720
<v Speaker 2>she won't talk to you anymore. Yeah.

0:29:04.080 --> 0:29:06.560
<v Speaker 5>I mean that, mas sense. I mean I've heard that

0:29:06.680 --> 0:29:08.680
<v Speaker 5>here and there, and it's it means all the same,

0:29:08.840 --> 0:29:09.000
<v Speaker 5>you know.

0:29:09.080 --> 0:29:09.560
<v Speaker 4>That's why I.

0:29:09.520 --> 0:29:13.240
<v Speaker 5>Think too, It's just like, man, she's the guilt Ship's crazy.

0:29:13.320 --> 0:29:15.479
<v Speaker 5>I think I should probably a blocker, but it's like

0:29:15.680 --> 0:29:17.480
<v Speaker 5>see me up like two days ago, like her dog

0:29:17.520 --> 0:29:19.360
<v Speaker 5>died and like that was her favorite dog, and like

0:29:19.920 --> 0:29:21.320
<v Speaker 5>pretty sure, darkus, you didn't take care of it.

0:29:21.520 --> 0:29:26.920
<v Speaker 2>Dude. You can't. Dude, you can't. Dude, you can't. Please, dude,

0:29:27.000 --> 0:29:28.120
<v Speaker 2>please you can't.

0:29:29.680 --> 0:29:33.200
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, I know. It's just it's a hard bandy

0:29:33.240 --> 0:29:37.000
<v Speaker 5>to pull off sometimes, you know, but makes sense, makes sense.

0:29:37.360 --> 0:29:39.240
<v Speaker 2>It's a good thing to learn how to set these

0:29:39.280 --> 0:29:41.760
<v Speaker 2>boundaries early because I and I get it. I get

0:29:41.800 --> 0:29:44.080
<v Speaker 2>it's hard, dude, but you gotta you gotta learn not

0:29:44.160 --> 0:29:47.240
<v Speaker 2>to fall for the guilt tripping and like reserve your

0:29:47.280 --> 0:29:48.360
<v Speaker 2>own sanity.

0:29:50.400 --> 0:29:52.680
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and part of me like you only have you only.

0:29:52.720 --> 0:29:56.360
<v Speaker 2>You have a finite amount of like time, energy and

0:29:56.480 --> 0:30:00.680
<v Speaker 2>fucking like sanity, you know, and you gotta it's okay

0:30:00.720 --> 0:30:03.080
<v Speaker 2>to be sparing with it.

0:30:04.960 --> 0:30:07.240
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and that's why, Yeah, that's why I need to

0:30:07.280 --> 0:30:09.440
<v Speaker 5>do more of because like, yeah, I like trying to

0:30:09.480 --> 0:30:11.360
<v Speaker 5>figure her out was just driving me insane.

0:30:11.360 --> 0:30:13.760
<v Speaker 2>So it was like, funny, let this person drive you insane.

0:30:14.560 --> 0:30:16.200
<v Speaker 2>You can still have it, by the way, By the way,

0:30:16.240 --> 0:30:18.440
<v Speaker 2>that doesn't mean you're not empathetic. You can still have empathy.

0:30:18.440 --> 0:30:21.040
<v Speaker 2>For this person, you can still hope that they get better.

0:30:21.600 --> 0:30:26.560
<v Speaker 2>But also importantnes is to understand that that's not your responsibility.

0:30:28.360 --> 0:30:28.560
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:30:28.680 --> 0:30:31.120
<v Speaker 5>No, it makes a lot of sense. Thank you.

0:30:32.160 --> 0:30:33.960
<v Speaker 2>What have you been eating to try to get really fat?

0:30:34.080 --> 0:30:35.400
<v Speaker 2>Like you said, fried chicken?

0:30:37.280 --> 0:30:40.440
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, honestly, like it's just been a bunch of like, yeah,

0:30:40.480 --> 0:30:42.719
<v Speaker 5>like fried chicken, a little bit of mask in her

0:30:42.760 --> 0:30:45.040
<v Speaker 5>because I know she's like into like the skinnier cut

0:30:45.040 --> 0:30:48.480
<v Speaker 5>more guys, and like I needed to boat either way.

0:30:48.600 --> 0:30:50.479
<v Speaker 5>So I was like fucking dirty boat, you know, And

0:30:50.520 --> 0:30:52.880
<v Speaker 5>I just fucking eat some food and shit, and I

0:30:52.920 --> 0:30:54.600
<v Speaker 5>was like, you know what, like let me get dirty

0:30:54.600 --> 0:30:56.840
<v Speaker 5>boat so I could cut back down because I I'd

0:30:56.840 --> 0:30:58.680
<v Speaker 5>be all much in this journey. So I know I'm good.

0:30:58.720 --> 0:31:00.600
<v Speaker 5>But it's like maybe, thank you.

0:31:01.160 --> 0:31:03.320
<v Speaker 2>Thank you for teaching me the phrase dirty bulk. I'm

0:31:03.320 --> 0:31:05.680
<v Speaker 2>gonna use that next time I go on a seven

0:31:05.720 --> 0:31:08.120
<v Speaker 2>to eleven run and get a fucking one of those

0:31:08.320 --> 0:31:11.800
<v Speaker 2>cheeseburger hot dogs. You know what I'm talking about. They

0:31:11.880 --> 0:31:15.000
<v Speaker 2>take cheeseburger meat and put it on the hot dog

0:31:15.120 --> 0:31:18.760
<v Speaker 2>roller and it's like a cheeseburger dog. I'm gonna get

0:31:18.760 --> 0:31:20.240
<v Speaker 2>one of those and call it a dirty bulk.

0:31:21.480 --> 0:31:23.120
<v Speaker 5>You know what you need to do with like a

0:31:23.120 --> 0:31:25.600
<v Speaker 5>bag of Dokeys or back of like hot cheetos, and

0:31:25.600 --> 0:31:27.560
<v Speaker 5>then you go to the nacho cheese like that little

0:31:27.600 --> 0:31:30.800
<v Speaker 5>nacho cheese put the cheese on the cheetos or on whatever.

0:31:32.400 --> 0:31:32.720
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, this woman really did ruin your life if you're

0:31:35.800 --> 0:31:36.080
<v Speaker 2>doing that.

0:31:37.560 --> 0:31:41.120
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean she paused it, you know,

0:31:41.600 --> 0:31:44.280
<v Speaker 5>a little pause about it. But yep, that's the back.

0:31:44.360 --> 0:31:44.880
<v Speaker 5>That's the back.

0:31:45.720 --> 0:31:49.880
<v Speaker 2>What's your name again, Tyler? Tyler? Tyler? Good luck, man,

0:31:49.960 --> 0:31:53.000
<v Speaker 2>don't stay stay strong out there? All right? Is there

0:31:53.000 --> 0:31:54.200
<v Speaker 2>anything else you want to say to the people of

0:31:54.200 --> 0:31:55.200
<v Speaker 2>the computer before we go?

0:31:55.760 --> 0:31:57.240
<v Speaker 5>No, that's it, Thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 2>Take care man, you too. Oh shit, that actually sounds

0:32:03.120 --> 0:32:05.400
<v Speaker 2>like a good idea taking No, I mean not a

0:32:05.600 --> 0:32:08.480
<v Speaker 2>not a not a good idea in that sense, but like, dude,

0:32:08.480 --> 0:32:10.400
<v Speaker 2>what if you took a bag of the ritos and

0:32:10.440 --> 0:32:12.720
<v Speaker 2>you went over to the seventh of the nacho cheese

0:32:12.720 --> 0:32:15.160
<v Speaker 2>dispenser and you put it on there and you shook

0:32:15.160 --> 0:32:20.200
<v Speaker 2>it up? All right? Sorry?

0:32:21.920 --> 0:32:24.120
<v Speaker 4>Hello, hey, Lile, what's going on? Man?

0:32:24.520 --> 0:32:29.640
<v Speaker 2>What's your name? Sir? Luke? Luke Luke? You texted me

0:32:29.680 --> 0:32:32.280
<v Speaker 2>and said, hey, Lyle, I haven't left my house or

0:32:32.360 --> 0:32:36.120
<v Speaker 2>spoken to anyone in person for a month, and so

0:32:36.200 --> 0:32:38.200
<v Speaker 2>it would be cool to chat. Is that true?

0:32:40.400 --> 0:32:44.720
<v Speaker 4>I'm exaggerating a little bit. I mean I go downstairs

0:32:44.720 --> 0:32:50.320
<v Speaker 4>to grab Amazon packages and grocery delivery, and I'll see

0:32:50.320 --> 0:32:52.280
<v Speaker 4>a neighbor and say hi. But you know, I haven't

0:32:52.320 --> 0:32:56.440
<v Speaker 4>really talked to anyone in a in a while. I guess.

0:32:57.880 --> 0:32:59.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was gonna ask how you like get food

0:33:00.080 --> 0:33:00.520
<v Speaker 2>and shit?

0:33:01.200 --> 0:33:05.240
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know Insta cart I got. I got a

0:33:05.280 --> 0:33:06.320
<v Speaker 4>bunch of chicken today.

0:33:07.640 --> 0:33:09.160
<v Speaker 2>Do you work from home?

0:33:11.560 --> 0:33:15.560
<v Speaker 4>Yeah? Yeah, so thankfully I can. I can kind of

0:33:16.040 --> 0:33:16.440
<v Speaker 4>do that.

0:33:17.040 --> 0:33:17.240
<v Speaker 5>You know.

0:33:17.320 --> 0:33:22.000
<v Speaker 4>It's it's one of those things I just have a

0:33:22.040 --> 0:33:24.800
<v Speaker 4>lot of I wouldn't really I don't know if you

0:33:24.800 --> 0:33:29.240
<v Speaker 4>would call it like a glorophobia, but you know, like

0:33:29.560 --> 0:33:34.080
<v Speaker 4>growing up, I got bullied a lot, and then I

0:33:34.160 --> 0:33:37.600
<v Speaker 4>ended up joining the military, and that really like gave

0:33:37.680 --> 0:33:42.360
<v Speaker 4>me a sense of confidence and belonging. And after I

0:33:42.400 --> 0:33:46.120
<v Speaker 4>got out of the military, I went back home kind

0:33:46.120 --> 0:33:51.400
<v Speaker 4>of felt like I rest back into that like scared kid.

0:33:51.480 --> 0:33:53.000
<v Speaker 5>You know, M.

0:33:54.480 --> 0:33:55.600
<v Speaker 2>Can ask, old you are.

0:33:57.520 --> 0:33:59.080
<v Speaker 4>I'm twenty six, now.

0:34:00.080 --> 0:34:03.760
<v Speaker 2>Nice, how long have you been out of the military.

0:34:05.560 --> 0:34:08.120
<v Speaker 4>It's been four years now, so I joined right after

0:34:08.200 --> 0:34:11.399
<v Speaker 4>high school. In my four years, got out, started going

0:34:11.440 --> 0:34:17.000
<v Speaker 4>to college, and yeah, and you know, like growing up,

0:34:17.040 --> 0:34:19.480
<v Speaker 4>I was I was a chunky kid. I was fat,

0:34:19.520 --> 0:34:21.960
<v Speaker 4>and then you know, joining the military, got in shape,

0:34:22.040 --> 0:34:26.880
<v Speaker 4>started feeling good, knew what it was like to be

0:34:27.000 --> 0:34:30.520
<v Speaker 4>in shape and have a life, I guess. And then

0:34:31.480 --> 0:34:34.240
<v Speaker 4>I got out of the military, I got pretty depressed,

0:34:35.120 --> 0:34:38.120
<v Speaker 4>gained a lot of weight. It was during COVID too,

0:34:38.200 --> 0:34:41.160
<v Speaker 4>you know, so I'm sure a lot of other people

0:34:41.640 --> 0:34:44.720
<v Speaker 4>had a similar experience where they probably kind of pulled

0:34:44.760 --> 0:34:47.439
<v Speaker 4>up at home and gained a ton of weight.

0:34:48.160 --> 0:34:57.480
<v Speaker 2>And so your this this pattern of not leaving the

0:34:57.480 --> 0:34:59.560
<v Speaker 2>house or talking to anybody, has it been like a pattern,

0:35:00.360 --> 0:35:02.920
<v Speaker 2>like I guess, I guess you've hit a streak. You've

0:35:02.920 --> 0:35:05.560
<v Speaker 2>been on a streak for this one particular month, but

0:35:05.600 --> 0:35:08.520
<v Speaker 2>it's just been like an overarching pattern since you got

0:35:08.520 --> 0:35:09.879
<v Speaker 2>out of the military four years ago.

0:35:11.480 --> 0:35:19.560
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know, I yeah, it's it's it's kind of

0:35:19.600 --> 0:35:21.319
<v Speaker 4>like I said before, you know, like I feel like

0:35:21.320 --> 0:35:25.080
<v Speaker 4>I kind of regressed into that, like into that kid

0:35:25.120 --> 0:35:28.560
<v Speaker 4>I was back in high school and well, you know,

0:35:29.719 --> 0:35:32.799
<v Speaker 4>I was in the Marine Corps specifically, and when you're

0:35:32.840 --> 0:35:35.120
<v Speaker 4>in the Marine Corps. If you're if you're fat, you

0:35:35.160 --> 0:35:39.800
<v Speaker 4>get like absolutely ostracized, like like you're not a person

0:35:39.840 --> 0:35:42.600
<v Speaker 4>if you're fat and you're in the Marine Corps. And

0:35:43.880 --> 0:35:46.160
<v Speaker 4>I feel like I like a lot of the stuff

0:35:46.160 --> 0:35:48.680
<v Speaker 4>I learned in the Marine Corps, A lot of the

0:35:49.560 --> 0:35:52.560
<v Speaker 4>like when you when you join an organization in your

0:35:52.600 --> 0:35:56.839
<v Speaker 4>formative years and they kind of indoctrinate you to their

0:35:57.040 --> 0:36:01.600
<v Speaker 4>way of thinking. No matter how much time passes by,

0:36:02.320 --> 0:36:03.880
<v Speaker 4>some of that is going to stick with you a

0:36:03.920 --> 0:36:07.040
<v Speaker 4>little bit. So even though it's been like a few

0:36:07.120 --> 0:36:12.200
<v Speaker 4>years and I'm feeling a lot better, like I guess

0:36:12.600 --> 0:36:20.040
<v Speaker 4>about how do I put it, It's some of it

0:36:20.080 --> 0:36:22.239
<v Speaker 4>just kind of sticks with you, you know. So like

0:36:22.840 --> 0:36:27.960
<v Speaker 4>right now, I've I've lost a ton of weight, but

0:36:28.719 --> 0:36:31.480
<v Speaker 4>I don't feel like I'm back where I should be yet.

0:36:32.000 --> 0:36:35.560
<v Speaker 4>So I kind of feel like I don't want to

0:36:35.600 --> 0:36:39.200
<v Speaker 4>show myself in public because I'm ashamed of who.

0:36:39.040 --> 0:36:39.879
<v Speaker 5>I am right now.

0:36:42.440 --> 0:36:44.640
<v Speaker 2>How long have you felt like you were ashamed of

0:36:44.680 --> 0:36:45.239
<v Speaker 2>who you are?

0:36:47.560 --> 0:36:49.239
<v Speaker 4>Kind of been like that, like ever since I got

0:36:49.280 --> 0:36:51.680
<v Speaker 4>out of the military, you know, just all the way

0:36:51.719 --> 0:36:54.440
<v Speaker 4>I gained during COVID, I guess I kind of like

0:36:55.440 --> 0:36:59.600
<v Speaker 4>spiraled and just gained a ton of weight, and you know,

0:36:59.640 --> 0:37:05.279
<v Speaker 4>it's just it's been it for a few years. I

0:37:05.360 --> 0:37:07.480
<v Speaker 4>was just kind of in a hole and really been

0:37:07.560 --> 0:37:09.359
<v Speaker 4>digging myself out in the last year.

0:37:09.480 --> 0:37:12.840
<v Speaker 5>But it's.

0:37:13.360 --> 0:37:15.480
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I don't know, can can you relate to that?

0:37:15.520 --> 0:37:18.600
<v Speaker 4>Have you ever kind of felt like you just don't

0:37:18.640 --> 0:37:23.360
<v Speaker 4>want anyone to see you your presence bothers people.

0:37:23.920 --> 0:37:30.600
<v Speaker 2>I've absolutely felt like disgusted with my body and like

0:37:31.080 --> 0:37:33.880
<v Speaker 2>I was, I was, uh, you know, I definitely you

0:37:33.920 --> 0:37:35.799
<v Speaker 2>know what it feels like to be like, ah, I

0:37:35.800 --> 0:37:40.240
<v Speaker 2>feel like I'm too fat to exist as a parson.

0:37:42.480 --> 0:37:42.840
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

0:37:42.880 --> 0:37:50.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm interested in this because you uh had a period

0:37:51.000 --> 0:37:54.760
<v Speaker 2>of time where you felt confident where you were around

0:37:54.840 --> 0:38:00.120
<v Speaker 2>other people, where you were fit, and then regressed, as

0:38:00.120 --> 0:38:03.240
<v Speaker 2>you said, And I'm kind of wondering. I'm like, well,

0:38:04.320 --> 0:38:10.920
<v Speaker 2>what can you do to get yourself back in into

0:38:10.960 --> 0:38:20.279
<v Speaker 2>that that that feeling? And I'm thinking, like practically, like

0:38:21.880 --> 0:38:25.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, I mean, shit, is it is it lame

0:38:25.640 --> 0:38:30.919
<v Speaker 2>to say pilates do a little fitness class. Is that lame?

0:38:31.360 --> 0:38:36.480
<v Speaker 4>Yeah? You know, Uh, I don't think so, But I

0:38:36.520 --> 0:38:38.640
<v Speaker 4>don't know, that's that's one of those things that's not

0:38:38.680 --> 0:38:41.520
<v Speaker 4>really for me, you know, before I a few months ago,

0:38:41.520 --> 0:38:44.920
<v Speaker 4>I was doing muay Thai classes and that was pretty great.

0:38:44.960 --> 0:38:49.800
<v Speaker 4>But I recently moved and I had a roommate, but

0:38:51.000 --> 0:38:55.719
<v Speaker 4>he had to he had to go back home for

0:38:55.760 --> 0:38:58.200
<v Speaker 4>a while, so that's why I've been alone. So I

0:38:58.239 --> 0:38:59.960
<v Speaker 4>felt like coming out here would kind of be like

0:39:00.160 --> 0:39:03.760
<v Speaker 4>that new fresh start for me. But now that he's

0:39:03.880 --> 0:39:06.720
<v Speaker 4>gone and I'm just alone, I kind of just feel

0:39:06.719 --> 0:39:09.680
<v Speaker 4>like I'm back at square one. And you know, this

0:39:09.719 --> 0:39:15.120
<v Speaker 4>past month, I actually just found your stream and your

0:39:15.160 --> 0:39:21.560
<v Speaker 4>YouTube channel and I've just been binging everything and it's

0:39:21.360 --> 0:39:23.600
<v Speaker 4>it's really cool to see the effect that you have

0:39:23.719 --> 0:39:27.239
<v Speaker 4>on people. And I really didn't expect that you had

0:39:27.239 --> 0:39:27.840
<v Speaker 4>reach out to me.

0:39:27.920 --> 0:39:35.160
<v Speaker 2>But well, cool, well, I mean fuck man, Like, okay, well,

0:39:35.280 --> 0:39:37.680
<v Speaker 2>let's let me ask you this. This this life that

0:39:37.719 --> 0:39:42.200
<v Speaker 2>you've been living, that's let's call it a gooraphobia light.

0:39:43.280 --> 0:39:46.080
<v Speaker 2>Are you enjoying it or are you like, fuck this shit?

0:39:46.120 --> 0:39:47.839
<v Speaker 2>I want to get out of there.

0:39:48.600 --> 0:39:51.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. I mean I have like an introverted personality, you know,

0:39:51.719 --> 0:39:54.040
<v Speaker 4>So I mean I kind of like it. But at

0:39:54.040 --> 0:39:57.600
<v Speaker 4>the same time, being twenty six, I think you said

0:39:57.600 --> 0:40:02.600
<v Speaker 4>you're twenty seven, right, twenty six, twenty six Okay, so yeah,

0:40:02.640 --> 0:40:05.120
<v Speaker 4>we're the same age, So maybe you can relate to

0:40:05.200 --> 0:40:08.920
<v Speaker 4>kind of that feeling of, you know, when you kind

0:40:08.960 --> 0:40:11.719
<v Speaker 4>of feel like your life is just flighting by, and

0:40:12.200 --> 0:40:17.759
<v Speaker 4>like you said, like you're the only you is the

0:40:17.800 --> 0:40:22.920
<v Speaker 4>present you, and you can kind of feel yourself just

0:40:22.960 --> 0:40:27.560
<v Speaker 4>slipping by and wasting away. So there's kind of like

0:40:27.640 --> 0:40:32.920
<v Speaker 4>that conflict where like if you're an introvert, you like

0:40:32.960 --> 0:40:35.239
<v Speaker 4>being inside, but at the same time, you know that

0:40:36.280 --> 0:40:38.520
<v Speaker 4>kind of gotta do what's good for you. Like I

0:40:38.560 --> 0:40:42.480
<v Speaker 4>saw a meme on Twitter today it was like it's

0:40:42.520 --> 0:40:46.760
<v Speaker 4>like that soy jacket. He's like, Jesus, why are you?

0:40:47.120 --> 0:40:49.640
<v Speaker 4>Jesus is with one of your hardest battles and it's

0:40:49.719 --> 0:40:53.120
<v Speaker 4>Jesus on the other side and he's like, literally just

0:40:53.160 --> 0:40:54.960
<v Speaker 4>go outside that.

0:40:55.040 --> 0:40:56.920
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So that's what I was. That's what I was

0:40:56.960 --> 0:40:59.840
<v Speaker 2>gonna say, is well, all right, So I mean I

0:41:00.360 --> 0:41:02.879
<v Speaker 2>guess to relate in this sense, like I have this

0:41:03.080 --> 0:41:06.080
<v Speaker 2>thing I'm a little bit the opposite where like I

0:41:06.120 --> 0:41:09.920
<v Speaker 2>fucking can't sit still and I have to do something

0:41:11.280 --> 0:41:12.680
<v Speaker 2>I have to do. I have to leave my house

0:41:12.800 --> 0:41:15.400
<v Speaker 2>every single day or else I'll go insane. And actually

0:41:15.440 --> 0:41:19.479
<v Speaker 2>sometimes that manifests negatively. Like today, my version of leaving

0:41:19.480 --> 0:41:21.840
<v Speaker 2>my house or else I go insane is like I

0:41:21.880 --> 0:41:27.200
<v Speaker 2>took a walk to McDonald's, you know, like that that's

0:41:27.440 --> 0:41:30.120
<v Speaker 2>a lot of my Like it's not cool, Like I'm

0:41:30.120 --> 0:41:33.399
<v Speaker 2>not going to fucking parties all the time. I'm usually

0:41:33.480 --> 0:41:35.080
<v Speaker 2>just like I need to leave my house. I'm going

0:41:35.120 --> 0:41:37.719
<v Speaker 2>to the drive through of Jack in the Box to

0:41:38.040 --> 0:41:41.640
<v Speaker 2>like just eat in my car like shit like that.

0:41:43.600 --> 0:41:46.040
<v Speaker 2>And so, dude, I don't know, I wish I had

0:41:46.080 --> 0:41:49.400
<v Speaker 2>like a better secret than just go outside. I mean,

0:41:49.400 --> 0:41:52.040
<v Speaker 2>you were talking about doing muay Thai classes just now,

0:41:52.080 --> 0:41:54.160
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like that that sounds cool, man, Like, why

0:41:54.320 --> 0:41:56.640
<v Speaker 2>why not more of that? You know what what made

0:41:56.680 --> 0:41:57.480
<v Speaker 2>you quit doing that?

0:41:59.040 --> 0:41:59.160
<v Speaker 5>Oh?

0:41:59.160 --> 0:42:02.000
<v Speaker 4>It was just because I you know, I moved from

0:42:02.040 --> 0:42:07.920
<v Speaker 4>the East Coast to more like Midwest so to live

0:42:07.960 --> 0:42:13.719
<v Speaker 4>with my friend and he's currently not here. So so dude, like,

0:42:13.719 --> 0:42:16.240
<v Speaker 4>I guess I could pick up more thaigh classes here.

0:42:16.320 --> 0:42:18.759
<v Speaker 2>But well, so that's the thing, right, And I know

0:42:18.800 --> 0:42:22.760
<v Speaker 2>it's never as easy as just doing it, But okay,

0:42:22.800 --> 0:42:25.880
<v Speaker 2>you saw that meme it said literally just go outside,

0:42:26.400 --> 0:42:29.560
<v Speaker 2>and I'm sitting here thinking, well, literally just go outside.

0:42:30.000 --> 0:42:32.280
<v Speaker 2>So what's between you and literally just going outside.

0:42:34.360 --> 0:42:40.359
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean, it's it's true. It's true. It's it's

0:42:40.480 --> 0:42:43.759
<v Speaker 4>just one of those things, you know, where it's just

0:42:44.160 --> 0:42:47.040
<v Speaker 4>that mental block, like it can ask you like why

0:42:47.040 --> 0:42:48.160
<v Speaker 4>don't why don't you lose weight?

0:42:48.280 --> 0:42:48.400
<v Speaker 2>Right?

0:42:48.440 --> 0:42:52.040
<v Speaker 4>Why do you keep why do you keep regressing yourself?

0:42:52.080 --> 0:42:54.600
<v Speaker 4>And it's kind of one of those things where it's

0:42:54.680 --> 0:42:57.319
<v Speaker 4>just that that mental block, you know, it's kind of

0:42:57.360 --> 0:43:03.239
<v Speaker 4>like kind of like an awful like the opposite of

0:43:03.239 --> 0:43:05.399
<v Speaker 4>a superpower. It's just kind of holding you back.

0:43:05.960 --> 0:43:08.840
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm. Well, it's interesting because you know you have

0:43:08.920 --> 0:43:11.760
<v Speaker 2>it in you, because you just did the Multi class

0:43:12.560 --> 0:43:15.839
<v Speaker 2>and you were in the military doing your thing, and

0:43:16.400 --> 0:43:18.440
<v Speaker 2>you know you've known that a version of yourself in

0:43:18.480 --> 0:43:20.840
<v Speaker 2>the past was able to go outside, but you have

0:43:20.840 --> 0:43:23.880
<v Speaker 2>a mental block from doing it right now. And I

0:43:23.880 --> 0:43:25.520
<v Speaker 2>don't know. I wish I was an expert in getting

0:43:25.520 --> 0:43:29.560
<v Speaker 2>over the mental block. I really do. It's I've actually

0:43:29.560 --> 0:43:32.640
<v Speaker 2>been speaking of memes. I have been seeing a lot

0:43:32.640 --> 0:43:37.040
<v Speaker 2>of like shit on like TikTok where it's people going

0:43:37.160 --> 0:43:40.759
<v Speaker 2>like I've been seeing a lot of memes where it's

0:43:40.760 --> 0:43:45.000
<v Speaker 2>like somebody's talking to somebody and it's like, you know,

0:43:45.120 --> 0:43:47.560
<v Speaker 2>I feel depressed and I have this so and so

0:43:48.200 --> 0:43:51.880
<v Speaker 2>mental health issue, and the other person is like, just

0:43:51.920 --> 0:43:55.120
<v Speaker 2>go outside, man, And then the person's like, oh, great things.

0:43:55.120 --> 0:43:58.200
<v Speaker 2>I didn't think about it like that. And I see that,

0:43:58.280 --> 0:44:00.560
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, I get it. But also at the

0:44:00.600 --> 0:44:03.040
<v Speaker 2>same time, I am a fucking little part of me

0:44:03.160 --> 0:44:08.759
<v Speaker 2>is like, well, just go outside. You know. I don't know,

0:44:09.040 --> 0:44:10.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't I don't know. I wish I knew. I

0:44:10.880 --> 0:44:15.560
<v Speaker 2>wish I wish I had better insight than uh, just

0:44:15.560 --> 0:44:16.880
<v Speaker 2>go outside, you know.

0:44:18.000 --> 0:44:20.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you're right. I mean, I know my like situation

0:44:20.800 --> 0:44:25.880
<v Speaker 4>is like it's pretty simple and minor compared to other people,

0:44:25.880 --> 0:44:27.760
<v Speaker 4>I guess, But well, well.

0:44:27.719 --> 0:44:30.759
<v Speaker 2>Dude, it's not about it's not about comparing yourself to

0:44:30.760 --> 0:44:35.120
<v Speaker 2>other people. I think that's actively detrimental. It's more about like,

0:44:35.400 --> 0:44:36.680
<v Speaker 2>what do you want out of life?

0:44:37.280 --> 0:44:37.480
<v Speaker 5>You know?

0:44:37.560 --> 0:44:39.759
<v Speaker 2>I mean, if you were telling me that you're I mean,

0:44:39.800 --> 0:44:42.080
<v Speaker 2>you're telling me that you you sound like you want

0:44:42.120 --> 0:44:42.880
<v Speaker 2>to go outside.

0:44:45.400 --> 0:44:48.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean, it's one of those things. I'm like,

0:44:50.000 --> 0:44:52.360
<v Speaker 4>I just realize I keep saying that over and over again.

0:44:52.840 --> 0:44:54.960
<v Speaker 2>Go ahead and keep going uh.

0:44:55.239 --> 0:45:03.120
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's you know, I'm not like I just say

0:45:03.160 --> 0:45:08.920
<v Speaker 4>I'm a little awkward. But it's it's just that feeling

0:45:08.960 --> 0:45:12.080
<v Speaker 4>of like if I go outside, I feel like there's

0:45:12.160 --> 0:45:15.720
<v Speaker 4>gonna be some sergeant major military figure in a bush

0:45:15.719 --> 0:45:20.120
<v Speaker 4>that's gonna jump out and be like, hey, you fat

0:45:20.120 --> 0:45:20.680
<v Speaker 4>piece of shit.

0:45:21.000 --> 0:45:21.200
<v Speaker 2>You know.

0:45:21.280 --> 0:45:24.759
<v Speaker 4>It's yeah, yeah, it's kind of it's kind of like

0:45:24.800 --> 0:45:27.319
<v Speaker 4>that feeling. It's I don't know if you would call

0:45:27.360 --> 0:45:34.280
<v Speaker 4>it trauma, but some of the some of the ways

0:45:34.320 --> 0:45:37.840
<v Speaker 4>I saw people get treated in the military, it was

0:45:37.840 --> 0:45:38.640
<v Speaker 4>pretty messed up.

0:45:39.760 --> 0:45:43.319
<v Speaker 2>And I can't decide if the military was was a

0:45:43.360 --> 0:45:45.600
<v Speaker 2>happy time for you or a bad time for you,

0:45:45.640 --> 0:45:48.720
<v Speaker 2>because you've described it in both ways.

0:45:49.160 --> 0:45:53.719
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's I think everyone that was in the military

0:45:53.760 --> 0:45:55.359
<v Speaker 4>can kind of agree it's a little bit of both.

0:45:55.640 --> 0:46:04.319
<v Speaker 4>I mean, a you know, growing up as a kid

0:46:04.360 --> 0:46:07.640
<v Speaker 4>that got bullied and I was a fat kid at

0:46:07.719 --> 0:46:10.840
<v Speaker 4>least having that like four years where I kind of

0:46:10.840 --> 0:46:14.759
<v Speaker 4>felt pride in duty and I was in shape and

0:46:14.840 --> 0:46:16.520
<v Speaker 4>I got to feel what it was like to be

0:46:17.360 --> 0:46:22.400
<v Speaker 4>at your peak. Just having that experience, even though I regressed,

0:46:22.520 --> 0:46:24.719
<v Speaker 4>I feel like it gives me like a light at

0:46:24.719 --> 0:46:27.040
<v Speaker 4>the end of the tunnel, so like, I know, hey,

0:46:27.040 --> 0:46:29.400
<v Speaker 4>that's what I'm trying to get back to, you know.

0:46:34.040 --> 0:46:37.439
<v Speaker 4>I mean it's been I saw someone in the chat

0:46:37.480 --> 0:46:40.280
<v Speaker 4>earlier say, like, take ozem pic like I've been taking

0:46:40.280 --> 0:46:41.360
<v Speaker 4>it myself.

0:46:41.080 --> 0:46:42.600
<v Speaker 2>For You've been taking as it most.

0:46:42.440 --> 0:46:46.440
<v Speaker 4>Of a year now. I've lost about so I started

0:46:47.040 --> 0:46:50.319
<v Speaker 4>my weight loss journey. I guess I really hammered down

0:46:50.360 --> 0:46:52.640
<v Speaker 4>and said, hey, I'm going to lose weight in November.

0:46:53.280 --> 0:46:56.160
<v Speaker 4>And I started at around two hundred and eighty pounds.

0:46:56.320 --> 0:47:00.680
<v Speaker 4>I'm six foot one and I just wait in today

0:47:00.800 --> 0:47:05.480
<v Speaker 4>about two twenty so I've lost about sixty pounds in November.

0:47:06.280 --> 0:47:10.759
<v Speaker 4>And I can attribute a lot of it to I

0:47:10.760 --> 0:47:12.560
<v Speaker 4>mean a lot of it is like your own hard

0:47:12.600 --> 0:47:16.279
<v Speaker 4>work too, with you still have to diet and exercise,

0:47:16.400 --> 0:47:22.360
<v Speaker 4>but ozempic just makes the mental part a lot easier,

0:47:22.480 --> 0:47:25.080
<v Speaker 4>you know. So if you struggle with that mental part,

0:47:25.200 --> 0:47:28.360
<v Speaker 4>like maybe you'll get like craving sometimes or sort of

0:47:28.360 --> 0:47:31.600
<v Speaker 4>like binge eating because you like weed, right, Like I

0:47:31.600 --> 0:47:33.839
<v Speaker 4>take some edibles sometimes, so I know that feeling of

0:47:33.920 --> 0:47:37.400
<v Speaker 4>like hitting the monkeys, and ozempic really helps kind of

0:47:37.440 --> 0:47:39.400
<v Speaker 4>like block that out.

0:47:39.200 --> 0:47:39.400
<v Speaker 5>You know.

0:47:39.680 --> 0:47:43.719
<v Speaker 2>That's fascinating, that's fascinating. Yeah, I do like weed. I'm

0:47:43.719 --> 0:47:48.960
<v Speaker 2>starting to try to cut I'm starting to not like

0:47:49.040 --> 0:47:53.239
<v Speaker 2>it as much, because of the anxiety on the come

0:47:53.320 --> 0:47:56.719
<v Speaker 2>up and the depression on the cometdown and the monkeys.

0:47:56.880 --> 0:47:59.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm noticing those things. I used to just ignore those things,

0:47:59.719 --> 0:48:01.440
<v Speaker 2>and now I'm like, you know what, those are compelling

0:48:01.520 --> 0:48:07.880
<v Speaker 2>reasons to at minimum do this less. But i mean, congrats, man,

0:48:07.880 --> 0:48:09.160
<v Speaker 2>that's awesome. Are you going to the gym? Are you

0:48:09.200 --> 0:48:09.719
<v Speaker 2>lifting shit?

0:48:12.200 --> 0:48:14.839
<v Speaker 4>I have been, but I mean for the past month,

0:48:14.880 --> 0:48:19.960
<v Speaker 4>I've kind of been on a hiatus, and you know,

0:48:20.000 --> 0:48:23.800
<v Speaker 4>I've been really in like a slump like the last months,

0:48:23.840 --> 0:48:26.080
<v Speaker 4>just really feeling down. But you know, just talking to

0:48:26.080 --> 0:48:28.080
<v Speaker 4>you on the phone right now, I just I do

0:48:28.160 --> 0:48:30.399
<v Speaker 4>feel like you feel a lot better.

0:48:30.840 --> 0:48:33.840
<v Speaker 2>Okay, good, good, that's good. I'm happy to hear that

0:48:33.920 --> 0:48:37.480
<v Speaker 2>talking about it is better because I I really it's

0:48:37.640 --> 0:48:44.040
<v Speaker 2>I'll have these moments, I'll have them with myself where

0:48:44.120 --> 0:48:47.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, oh, there really is I don't know if

0:48:47.560 --> 0:48:50.680
<v Speaker 2>there's anything other than just do it, you know, and

0:48:50.760 --> 0:48:53.239
<v Speaker 2>so I don't know if Yeah. So I mean I'm

0:48:53.280 --> 0:48:57.480
<v Speaker 2>glad that talking about it is is is helpful. I

0:48:57.480 --> 0:49:00.479
<v Speaker 2>think for me, Yeah, it's been tough for me because

0:49:00.760 --> 0:49:04.480
<v Speaker 2>I well, I have this fucking here's where I'm at

0:49:04.560 --> 0:49:06.239
<v Speaker 2>is I I was pretty good at the beginning of

0:49:06.280 --> 0:49:11.000
<v Speaker 2>this year with like counting calories and going to the gym,

0:49:11.640 --> 0:49:17.239
<v Speaker 2>and then like I've been using touring as an excuse, uh,

0:49:17.880 --> 0:49:19.640
<v Speaker 2>And actually for a little while I was able to,

0:49:19.800 --> 0:49:31.440
<v Speaker 2>like I was able to do my calorie counting and

0:49:31.480 --> 0:49:35.279
<v Speaker 2>working out while I was touring, and very recently and

0:49:35.320 --> 0:49:37.239
<v Speaker 2>then maybe like for the past month, I've been not

0:49:38.000 --> 0:49:41.839
<v Speaker 2>doing any of that shit. I think it helped because

0:49:41.840 --> 0:49:43.920
<v Speaker 2>at the time I was doing it, I really liked

0:49:44.080 --> 0:49:46.279
<v Speaker 2>doing it and I was really into it, but I

0:49:46.320 --> 0:49:49.600
<v Speaker 2>was also depressed, and I there was other shit that

0:49:49.680 --> 0:49:53.040
<v Speaker 2>I didn't care about, Like the time the time period

0:49:53.080 --> 0:49:54.680
<v Speaker 2>where I was really into going to the gym and

0:49:54.719 --> 0:49:58.000
<v Speaker 2>really into counting calories, I only cared about going to

0:49:58.000 --> 0:50:00.040
<v Speaker 2>the gym and counting calories. I didn't care about like

0:50:00.160 --> 0:50:04.040
<v Speaker 2>doing any gecko shit. I didn't care about, like, you know,

0:50:04.120 --> 0:50:07.480
<v Speaker 2>a lot of other things. And it was good to

0:50:07.520 --> 0:50:10.160
<v Speaker 2>be going to the gym and eating healthy and everything,

0:50:10.200 --> 0:50:13.200
<v Speaker 2>but life felt like kind of unbalanced, And now it

0:50:13.200 --> 0:50:15.719
<v Speaker 2>feels a little bit more balanced, and I'm kind of

0:50:15.800 --> 0:50:18.600
<v Speaker 2>using this excuse of like, Okay, once things slow down,

0:50:19.400 --> 0:50:22.839
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna get back to doing that. But I don't

0:50:22.880 --> 0:50:24.719
<v Speaker 2>know if things ever do slow down that might be

0:50:24.760 --> 0:50:30.319
<v Speaker 2>a myth. So uh oh no, but I like the gym, man,

0:50:30.360 --> 0:50:33.799
<v Speaker 2>I really do. I really like enjoy like lifting weight,

0:50:33.880 --> 0:50:35.719
<v Speaker 2>I wrote. I remember I was lifting weights once and

0:50:35.760 --> 0:50:37.640
<v Speaker 2>I wrote, I took up my phone, I wrote down,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, never not do this because I just

0:50:41.840 --> 0:50:47.000
<v Speaker 2>fucking is is great. I went to the gym with

0:50:47.000 --> 0:50:48.919
<v Speaker 2>a friend recently and I didn't even I didn't even

0:50:48.960 --> 0:50:51.640
<v Speaker 2>like make it into like, okay, let me track my shit.

0:50:51.760 --> 0:50:54.279
<v Speaker 2>We were just fucking around lifting stuff and it was

0:50:54.280 --> 0:50:57.720
<v Speaker 2>really fun. So I don't know. It's a tough balance

0:50:57.719 --> 0:51:00.279
<v Speaker 2>to walk where you kind of have to like, you know,

0:51:00.400 --> 0:51:03.920
<v Speaker 2>track your whatever and all that stuff to like make

0:51:03.960 --> 0:51:06.120
<v Speaker 2>it work. But also when you don't, it's kind of fun,

0:51:07.239 --> 0:51:08.719
<v Speaker 2>you know, Or when you make it too much of

0:51:08.760 --> 0:51:10.960
<v Speaker 2>a chore, it becomes it's a chore, it's not fun anymore.

0:51:12.200 --> 0:51:16.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I'm I'm Those watching the video version

0:51:16.680 --> 0:51:19.560
<v Speaker 2>of this podcast know that I am.

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<v Speaker 4>I am.

0:51:19.640 --> 0:51:24.320
<v Speaker 2>I am no fitness expert, I am no doctor Huberman.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean, now that you're bring it up, I

0:51:31.440 --> 0:51:34.040
<v Speaker 4>can totally relate to what you're saying about how when

0:51:34.040 --> 0:51:38.040
<v Speaker 4>you're going into like fitness mode, you feel kind of

0:51:38.040 --> 0:51:42.640
<v Speaker 4>depressed and down for a while, right It's I think

0:51:42.680 --> 0:51:45.279
<v Speaker 4>that's kind of what happened to me this past months too,

0:51:45.320 --> 0:51:50.400
<v Speaker 4>because I, like I said, I got instacarted some chicken

0:51:50.440 --> 0:51:52.720
<v Speaker 4>today and it was just chicken. I got like about

0:51:52.840 --> 0:51:56.319
<v Speaker 4>twenty pounds of chicken. I'm just like eating nothing but

0:51:56.400 --> 0:51:59.640
<v Speaker 4>meat right now, just kind of like detoxing my body

0:51:59.640 --> 0:52:04.839
<v Speaker 4>of like yeah, kogar and yeah. And it's I think

0:52:04.840 --> 0:52:06.760
<v Speaker 4>that's part of the reason why I've been like feeling

0:52:06.760 --> 0:52:11.720
<v Speaker 4>so downs, just because I've been like having that because

0:52:11.760 --> 0:52:13.520
<v Speaker 4>you know, when you when you need a lot of crap,

0:52:13.640 --> 0:52:17.000
<v Speaker 4>that kind of becomes your your balance, and then when

0:52:17.040 --> 0:52:20.839
<v Speaker 4>you go healthy, it feels like it's unbalanced even though

0:52:20.880 --> 0:52:23.520
<v Speaker 4>it's healthy. So you got to give it like time

0:52:23.600 --> 0:52:27.000
<v Speaker 4>to work. But I totally go what you mean about it.

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<v Speaker 2>It is funny fitness mode, like going fitness mode is

0:52:30.040 --> 0:52:35.920
<v Speaker 2>always like predicated by being absolutely fucking depressed. Like my

0:52:36.000 --> 0:52:41.560
<v Speaker 2>fitness mode was I was going on a lot of

0:52:41.880 --> 0:52:43.920
<v Speaker 2>fucking I was going on a lot of fucking uh

0:52:44.680 --> 0:52:53.239
<v Speaker 2>uh hinge dates the beginning of this year, and I

0:52:53.400 --> 0:52:56.839
<v Speaker 2>was like I was I just felt like very unattractive.

0:52:56.880 --> 0:52:58.640
<v Speaker 2>I was like, I just I think I look like shit,

0:52:58.760 --> 0:53:01.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm too fat, I suck. I got to lose weight,

0:53:01.880 --> 0:53:04.920
<v Speaker 2>and I was kind of depressed and that kind of

0:53:04.920 --> 0:53:10.640
<v Speaker 2>predicated like it, it was definitely negative self esteem and

0:53:11.239 --> 0:53:13.399
<v Speaker 2>body issues and ship that I think got me into

0:53:13.400 --> 0:53:15.960
<v Speaker 2>fitness mode. And then what kept me going into and

0:53:16.600 --> 0:53:19.640
<v Speaker 2>that that kind of like is a catalyst. And then

0:53:19.760 --> 0:53:23.200
<v Speaker 2>I think what keeps you in fitness mode is like, oh,

0:53:23.239 --> 0:53:24.719
<v Speaker 2>this feels good. I like doing this.

0:53:25.680 --> 0:53:28.160
<v Speaker 4>I haven't been on dating apps ever since I got

0:53:28.280 --> 0:53:30.960
<v Speaker 4>out of the military and gain weight and how how

0:53:31.000 --> 0:53:34.240
<v Speaker 4>are they nowadays? Uh?

0:53:36.120 --> 0:53:46.120
<v Speaker 2>Uh, you know, I don't know, man, it's it's it's fine.

0:53:46.640 --> 0:53:50.239
<v Speaker 2>I think I think well. I mean, look, dude, I

0:53:50.239 --> 0:53:55.360
<v Speaker 2>think that you should probably get in shape, not because

0:53:55.400 --> 0:53:58.640
<v Speaker 2>of you want to look good on your dating apps,

0:53:59.480 --> 0:54:02.440
<v Speaker 2>but do it because it feels good or I mean,

0:54:02.480 --> 0:54:04.200
<v Speaker 2>I just do it for both. But I don't know,

0:54:04.200 --> 0:54:07.080
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what I'm talking about.

0:54:07.080 --> 0:54:09.640
<v Speaker 4>Anyone that says that they're not doing it for both

0:54:10.360 --> 0:54:10.880
<v Speaker 4>is a liar.

0:54:11.600 --> 0:54:14.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, No, I think both. I think both both is

0:54:14.520 --> 0:54:21.359
<v Speaker 2>the truth. Yeah, what's your name again? Luke?

0:54:21.640 --> 0:54:21.879
<v Speaker 1>Luke?

0:54:22.800 --> 0:54:32.520
<v Speaker 2>Luke? Well, Luke, listen, man, Uh, this has been a

0:54:32.520 --> 0:54:35.520
<v Speaker 2>good Uh, this has been a good, fat piece of

0:54:35.560 --> 0:54:41.959
<v Speaker 2>shit support group meeting. I've enjoyed, uh enjoyed talking about

0:54:41.960 --> 0:54:44.120
<v Speaker 2>these things. Is there anything else that you want to

0:54:44.120 --> 0:54:45.879
<v Speaker 2>say to the people of the computer before we go,

0:54:46.000 --> 0:54:50.359
<v Speaker 2>or say about life or death cheetos?

0:54:51.520 --> 0:54:53.799
<v Speaker 4>I guess on behalf of everyone. I just wanted to say,

0:54:53.840 --> 0:54:56.000
<v Speaker 4>we really appreciate you, man. I mean, like, I know

0:54:56.160 --> 0:54:58.359
<v Speaker 4>you don't know me, but it feels like I really

0:54:58.400 --> 0:55:00.680
<v Speaker 4>know you. It feels like you're my friend. And just

0:55:00.719 --> 0:55:04.440
<v Speaker 4>having this little talk with a friend, it is just

0:55:04.480 --> 0:55:07.919
<v Speaker 4>something I needed and Reilly really made my day.

0:55:08.719 --> 0:55:13.360
<v Speaker 2>Thanks man, Thank good dude. If I really really, I

0:55:13.400 --> 0:55:16.520
<v Speaker 2>hope this is a catalyst for something. I hope it

0:55:16.560 --> 0:55:19.160
<v Speaker 2>caught you tomorrow You're like, let's go to moy Ti,

0:55:19.280 --> 0:55:20.840
<v Speaker 2>let's go to the just do something. I hope. I

0:55:20.920 --> 0:55:23.960
<v Speaker 2>hope it catalyzes something. That's my hope for this phone call.

0:55:24.880 --> 0:55:26.839
<v Speaker 2>Whether or not it does, I guess to you, but.

0:55:28.960 --> 0:55:30.759
<v Speaker 4>I was about to fall asleep when you called, and

0:55:30.800 --> 0:55:32.920
<v Speaker 4>now I'm just like I feel like I could run

0:55:32.960 --> 0:55:36.080
<v Speaker 4>a few miles. Feel great. Thank you, good man, Thank

0:55:36.080 --> 0:55:36.600
<v Speaker 4>you very much.

0:55:36.640 --> 0:55:41.320
<v Speaker 2>Smile good Thank you man. Take care and uh uh

0:55:41.840 --> 0:55:47.440
<v Speaker 2>good good luck. And I guess I'm sorry, I'm awkward.

0:55:47.440 --> 0:55:49.080
<v Speaker 2>I was trying to think of something funny to say,

0:55:49.080 --> 0:55:50.040
<v Speaker 2>but I couldn't.

0:55:50.080 --> 0:55:54.600
<v Speaker 4>But good luck, it's all good. Good luck with your touring,

0:55:54.760 --> 0:55:56.399
<v Speaker 4>Take care, thanks man.

0:55:58.640 --> 0:56:02.839
<v Speaker 2>Life is crazy, Food's awesome. That's the problem. I've talked

0:56:02.840 --> 0:56:05.200
<v Speaker 2>about this so much on the show, and everyone knows

0:56:05.600 --> 0:56:09.120
<v Speaker 2>that I eat a lot. But uh, that's the problems.

0:56:09.120 --> 0:56:12.360
<v Speaker 2>Food is just so good and life is so crazy.

0:56:12.719 --> 0:56:15.160
<v Speaker 2>But the gym is really good too. Maybe it's a

0:56:15.160 --> 0:56:20.040
<v Speaker 2>balance of everything. I don't know. I'm a gecko. Hello, folks,

0:56:20.280 --> 0:56:23.560
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<v Speaker 2>hooked up with the FedEx guy?

0:57:02.520 --> 0:57:05.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I work at a high rise apartment building. I

0:57:05.160 --> 0:57:08.240
<v Speaker 1>make sure all the residents get their packages and a

0:57:08.320 --> 0:57:09.040
<v Speaker 1>too nice guy.

0:57:09.719 --> 0:57:11.239
<v Speaker 3>I probably shouldn't have done that because I'm going to

0:57:11.320 --> 0:57:12.000
<v Speaker 3>keep seeing them.

0:57:12.040 --> 0:57:14.200
<v Speaker 2>Do you think you're gonna have a recurring relationship with

0:57:14.239 --> 0:57:15.480
<v Speaker 2>him or was it was a kind of a one

0:57:15.520 --> 0:57:16.720
<v Speaker 2>and done deal. No?

0:57:16.880 --> 0:57:18.680
<v Speaker 1>He seems kind of like a piece of shit, so

0:57:18.800 --> 0:57:19.800
<v Speaker 1>I think it were done.

0:57:20.240 --> 0:57:21.760
<v Speaker 2>Well, you just said he was a nice guy.

0:57:22.360 --> 0:57:25.400
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Okay, so howe you know, like, if.

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<v Speaker 2>I have nothing else to say.

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<v Speaker 4>May goes off the line thanking your phone calls every night.

0:57:47.760 --> 0:57:51.040
<v Speaker 2>Ever goes to he's teaching you loud in the