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Speaker 1: How is that Archer? Yes? Goodness Dan last culture rest

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Speaker 1: You've done it before. I just don't want to go alone,

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Speaker 1: It's interesting? Um, I am in the parts where um

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Speaker 1: Remember that episode of Grays where you don't like your

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Speaker 1: old episode of Gray's Anatomy. It's it's iconic. It's almost

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Speaker 1: then they both like looking at each other's eyes and

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Speaker 1: Was my first time in any group fitness setting since

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Speaker 1: in so long, queen, Yeah, well what happened to you?

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Speaker 1: when I see it on other people. But we're not there.

423
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:11,680
Speaker 1: Just it's hard to get there inside your own head.

424
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 1: And then I always I remind myself, and I think

425
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 1: this is such a good thing for everyone to remind themselves.

426
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,159
Speaker 1: Just no one is thinking about you as much as

427
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:22,120
Speaker 1: you are ever ever, except if you're famous. Thought that's

428
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 1: not true. So sometimes I'm like, I look like ship,

429
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 1: and then somebody tweets me like it's not busy Phillips

430
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 1: that hugoes. She looked like ship, you know, And then

431
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:37,199
Speaker 1: you're like, well, you didn't have to tag me, you

432
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,920
Speaker 1: know what I mean? The tag is always a huge

433
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 1: question mark from me. I'm like, why if you wanted

434
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,120
Speaker 1: to hate me, you could have done that in private.

435
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,160
Speaker 1: I really didn't need to know. I don't know who

436
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 1: it helps. I mean it helps them because it gets

437
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:54,639
Speaker 1: your attention. That's the kicker, isn't it. I think this

438
00:24:54,720 --> 00:25:00,200
Speaker 1: is a particular summer during which people are extra are

439
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 1: thoughtful about just um great. It's so you're re emerging

440
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 1: from a cocoon. You want to look good, and you

441
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 1: want to pretend like you were one of those people

442
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 1: that was like I spent the whole time working on

443
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 1: me and getting better and like losing forty pounds, and

444
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 1: really you're like I spent the whole time eating tates

445
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 1: and drinking bottles of rose at night. Like, well, that's

446
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 1: just my experience. I can't project for you, but you know,

447
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:26,639
Speaker 1: I think it's like a little bit. People feel this

448
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:30,120
Speaker 1: this pressure of of re emerging looking better than ever.

449
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:33,679
Speaker 1: But I never had looked better ever in my life.

450
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 1: It is the hottest I've ever fucking been in February. Wait,

451
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:43,160
Speaker 1: oh so like right before, yeah, I was the best

452
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 1: my body, my body. I literally this is not a joke.

453
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 1: Like in early March, I remember looking in the mirror

454
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 1: and I was like that's what you always wanted. You like,

455
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 1: that's it. I was like, you look great, you look great.

456
00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,200
Speaker 1: Talk about this, talk about this moment because I want

457
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 1: I want you to look bottle this, Bottle this up.

458
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,160
Speaker 1: What was the what was the reason for it? What

459
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 1: made you think? What made you satisfy? Because this is

460
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,879
Speaker 1: the thing that I think. I'm always looking in the mirror,

461
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:15,119
Speaker 1: boy so, and I always about you think like I

462
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,160
Speaker 1: don't know. It just was like it all came together.

463
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 1: I just was looking great. I had been working out

464
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,640
Speaker 1: so much and like, but it was like I had

465
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 1: like let so much food stuff go, like in terms

466
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:29,879
Speaker 1: of I threw my scales out like a couple of

467
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 1: months earlier, and then like I just felt all this freedom.

468
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 1: And I was like still eating nachos at Petty Cash

469
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,400
Speaker 1: on Monday nights and still like feeling like I was like,

470
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 1: I was like I've turned into like Cameron Diaz of nine,

471
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 1: where I'm like I'm eating a burger. But I looked

472
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:50,360
Speaker 1: like this, like I just had this thing, and I

473
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,120
Speaker 1: was like, this is it. It's what you've always wanted.

474
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:57,719
Speaker 1: It's balanced. Like I didn't fucking I wasn't like like

475
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 1: having sugar craving, like stuffing my face was. I wasn't

476
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 1: binging binging binging, so but like, you know, not in

477
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 1: a way where I would purge. Just I would go

478
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 1: through periods of time in my life since I was

479
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 1: a young actor first told to lose weight, where um,

480
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 1: young act orror who's a woman in this industry who

481
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 1: was told to lose weight? Um, that I would like

482
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 1: go through periods of time where I'd be really really

483
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:28,919
Speaker 1: really strict and regimented and be like, um, still just

484
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,360
Speaker 1: like a normal sized person, you know what I mean.

485
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:33,919
Speaker 1: And then I would like fall off the wagon and

486
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 1: binge and then whatever. And then I had my kids

487
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 1: and I was like I can't continue this. This is

488
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 1: fucked for them because they're, um, well I have like

489
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:48,360
Speaker 1: a little girl and then my non binary teen. Um

490
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,679
Speaker 1: but still like body issues or body issues like you

491
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 1: guys are proof that it doesn't it doesn't matter your gender. Um.

492
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 1: So yeah, Like I just was trying to get a

493
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:03,639
Speaker 1: handle on it for many years and like I was like,

494
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 1: I did it, and then my body, my body never

495
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 1: looked better, and then I sank into it. So I'm

496
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,920
Speaker 1: curious because for me, for me, it was immediate, like

497
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 1: when they told us we were going home from work

498
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 1: and that we wouldn't be back for even two weeks.

499
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 1: I remember it. For me, it was immediate. I think

500
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 1: I said right away. I was like, oh, unfortunately, I'm

501
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 1: gonna let myself go because there was those people that

502
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 1: were in my ear sort of saying like, hey, just

503
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 1: so you know, it might also be a very long time,

504
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 1: and I was like, I'm not willing to believe that,

505
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 1: but I am going to enjoy in any way that

506
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 1: I can, this like time at home. I'm going to

507
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 1: comfort myself from the horrors of what's going out there with.

508
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be eating pizza while I'm sitting here binging.

509
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 1: I'll say again, thirty one seasons of Survivor. So that's

510
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 1: the whole thing. Well, there's forty and there's like nine

511
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 1: flop seasons that I didn't watch, so I watched all

512
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 1: the good ones good quote unquote, and so during that time,

513
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 1: it was like cheeseburgers, pizza. You want to know a

514
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 1: story about Jeff Probest. Obviously, um, Jeff Prost Probest is

515
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 1: the nicest, sweetest and uh, he's married to a friend

516
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 1: of mine and our kids all used to go to

517
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 1: the same school in Los Angeles. Although Lisa's kids are older,

518
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 1: his wife's kids are are are a bit older than

519
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 1: my kids. But we would often end up on spring

520
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 1: break at the exact same time in the same place,

521
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 1: like at this and uh. And I've known Lisa for

522
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 1: a long time because before she was married to Jeff

523
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 1: Probest I mean, I mean a long time, like her

524
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 1: best friend forever is a is a woman that I

525
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 1: was friends with, like through acting or whatever. So I've

526
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 1: known his wife for a long time. So anyway, so

527
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 1: we would like hang out on vacation on spring break

528
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 1: and at this resort that we, you know, would see

529
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 1: each other at like l A l A springbreak vibes. Yeah,

530
00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 1: he would hold for the kids that there is of art.

531
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 1: He would do for for free, I mean for fun,

532
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 1: just for fun. He would do a full survivor home

533
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 1: like day for the kids, like staying at the place

534
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 1: in Hawaii. When you get ready, it was cut. It

535
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 1: was just like the cutest, nicest he just was Like

536
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 1: first of all, it was like the greatest step dad

537
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 1: that I've ever seen. A look all of it. Yeah,

538
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 1: your hat still was was he was he in the

539
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 1: look like even though he was on vacation. Did he

540
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 1: at least bring like the look like was he in

541
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 1: his denim sort of cargo pants? Like yeah, kind of, yeah,

542
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 1: a little bit. I mean he's like maybe a little

543
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 1: bit cooler like life like like, but he's definitely like

544
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 1: hot dad vibes. Yeah, sure, like he It was just

545
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 1: like the first year because it was years that we

546
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 1: would see them on spring break and the first year

547
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 1: where I was like, wait, wait, so where is he going?

548
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 1: And she's like, oh, he does this thing or he

549
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 1: does survivor for the kids staying here, and it's just like,

550
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 1: you know, I was like, are you fucking kidding me?

551
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 1: That's the greatest thing ever heard in my life? Like

552
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: that sweet? Oh those kids are going to look back

553
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 1: on that and have a good memory that he was

554
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 1: very sweet and like all the kids, Like Cricket when

555
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 1: she first met him was probably I mean like two

556
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 1: and a half or something like that, my little one

557
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 1: who's now almost eight, and she just always was like

558
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 1: who's like she just loved him. Um, he's very lovable.

559
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 1: That that's like, that's like like you find out that

560
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 1: the Santa that came to your house to play Santa

561
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 1: was the real Santa Santa. Yeah sure anyway, yeah, I

562
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: was saying like it for me, the COVID thing was

563
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 1: like it was immediate. I was like, no, I'm meaning

564
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 1: whatever I want now. It was my my comfort food

565
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 1: and survivor was it was. It happened immediately I got me.

566
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 1: I was like, I wake up every morning at six,

567
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 1: I work out, I shower and then put on a

568
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 1: full outfit and make up if I feel like I

569
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 1: was living in And then I was like and then

570
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 1: we start school and I'm a teacher now, and that

571
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 1: like it was such a crazy was such a slow

572
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 1: burn for me, like where all of a sudden, I

573
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 1: was like, oh, I have four thousand emails I haven't returned,

574
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 1: and but like my kids nailing their project for the

575
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 1: building the rainbow out of household objects that we have

576
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 1: to take a picture of and upload to this website

577
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 1: that the school like just came up with like two

578
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 1: and a half seconds ago, so that we can like

579
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 1: track their things. And then I have to teach her

580
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 1: how to multiply numbers, and like it was truly a

581
00:32:56,680 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: wild journey. But my my spiral in terms of like

582
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 1: oh I'm fucking done happened in June, I would say.

583
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 1: In June, I was like, that was when it was

584
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 1: hardest for me, because that was when it really sank

585
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 1: in that this was like, yeah, well we had our

586
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 1: when when LA started to like kind of open back

587
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 1: up again, our kids like nanny who this is is

588
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 1: this relatable content our child kiss nanny who we had

589
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 1: obviously paid to stay home for those three months, like

590
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 1: the quarantine three months. And then like, by the way,

591
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 1: at like a school zoom meeting, we find out like

592
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 1: people are asking questions about their babysitters and childcare. And

593
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 1: I was like, what people are start coming and working

594
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 1: in your what the fuck I had? I was like, everybody,

595
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 1: I obviously I work, Mark works, we have two children. Um,

596
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 1: I had like a housekeeper that came twice a week,

597
00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 1: and I had our kids like longtime nanny and both

598
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 1: of them. I was like, and and by the way,

599
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 1: my assistant Raymond, who like whatever, I was like, everybody

600
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 1: stay at home, and I continue to pay you and

601
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 1: don't fucking come to the threshold. Do not even come

602
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 1: near us. And I we were doing it all ourselves,

603
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,360
Speaker 1: like for a second, one second, in the very beginning

604
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 1: of the pandemic, I said I called Casey and I

605
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 1: was like, let's just start doing like a version of

606
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 1: Busy tonight, but like from my house and like we

607
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 1: can just do and it was so fun and it'll

608
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 1: be like like on zoom we can just like or

609
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 1: not zoom on Instagram live or whatever and we'll just

610
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 1: like post. It would be so fun, you guys. I was.

611
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 1: That was like I literally was like crying under a

612
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 1: pile of laundry, two kids, so many dishes, and I

613
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: was like, this is I can't do this. This is insane.

614
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 1: I'm not that's insane. The teacher that the having to

615
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 1: be a teacher of it all that was a horror that.

616
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 1: I mean, me having a bad time is just like

617
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,360
Speaker 1: it was so I didn't have any responsibilities really to

618
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 1: have children and then to have to teach them, and

619
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 1: then you have to realize, like how difficult all that.

620
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 1: It is, Like the math that they learned fun out.

621
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 1: But by the way, my kids like for like like

622
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 1: crickets school was teaching it was Singapore math, which is

623
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:22,839
Speaker 1: like a kind of math we don't know because we

624
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:27,720
Speaker 1: were not taught. But it's about number bonding. What yeah,

625
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:31,879
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's about number bonding and it's that's

626
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 1: as you guys, that's as much as I know. I

627
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 1: swear god, that is literally and I was like, do

628
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 1: I need to take a crash course in Singapore? Mouth like,

629
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,280
Speaker 1: I don't fucking know how to do this. This is insane.

630
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:51,359
Speaker 1: My older kid, Birdie like weirdly was this is I

631
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 1: mean talk about like fucking making lemon made out of lemons? Oh,

632
00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 1: you guys, my older child, Bertie had been this is

633
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 1: it's actually not funny at all. But my older kid,

634
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 1: but my older kid, Bertie had been bullied so horribly

635
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Speaker 1: in the school that they were in when they came

636
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 1: out at or at age ten, and it was just

637
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 1: like a fucking nightmare. And so it got to a

638
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 1: really on and the school handled it poorly, and I

639
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 1: got the l g pt Q Center involved in l

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Speaker 1: A and it was just like I was talking to

641
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 1: lawyers and they were like, well, that's what you get

642
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 1: when you go to private school school. You have no

643
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 1: recourse in blah blah blah blah blah. And I was

644
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:34,320
Speaker 1: just like and so literally two weeks before the pandemic happened,

645
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 1: like officially was called they called it um. When they

646
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 1: called it um, we had or two two and a

647
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 1: half weeks, we had pulled Bertie out of school and

648
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 1: had set them up with these like tutors that we're incredible.

649
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 1: But because basically I said to the school, like, you

650
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 1: have two choices. You're gonna let my child finish with

651
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: private twouters or I'm going to like be on the

652
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 1: cover of People magazine. Um And also, by the way,

653
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 1: I didn't want to find There was no fucking way

654
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 1: I wanted to do that. Like I didn't want to

655
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 1: I wasn't ever going to do that. By the way,

656
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 1: I was never going to just f y I but

657
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:21,839
Speaker 1: I was never going to do But I just was like,

658
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 1: you have to let us go, and you have to

659
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 1: like let us finish the school year without you and

660
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 1: without them being subjected to this fucking torture. And um

661
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 1: so they had agreed to that. So we have these

662
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 1: private tutors that were like already set up tutoring Bertie.

663
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 1: So then when the pandemic happened, and it's like through

664
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 1: this company that does this for kids who either like

665
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 1: are they like professional kids they like work with actors

666
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 1: or sports players, or when kids are in crisis like

667
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 1: was in our case, and like needed to get the

668
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 1: you know out um. But so then when the pandem

669
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 1: it happened, Bernie had like this schedule with these it

670
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 1: was all set up online already to go because they

671
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 1: have like kids that travel for work, and they like

672
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 1: didn't miss a beat and literally it was like we

673
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 1: didn't have to do anything. It was so seamless and

674
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 1: Bernie just like faced all of the classes and had

675
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:24,879
Speaker 1: the greatest like was literally you guys when I mean

676
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 1: when like George Floyd was murdered, then Bernie was talking

677
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 1: to their English teacher about it, and the English teacher

678
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 1: was like, I'm going to change the curriculum for the

679
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 1: rest of the year and we're going to read um

680
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 1: Chained and like this book and this book, and then

681
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 1: we're gonna like talk about it. Was I was like, Oh,

682
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 1: this is what's wrong with education in America. It's not

683
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 1: like it's not adaptable and it's not tailored to children's

684
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 1: actual needs. It's just like a one size fits all situation.

685
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 1: Even if you are paying for it. It fucking sucks. Um,

686
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 1: I know, but that thing is for habitively expensive like

687
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 1: what we were doing at the time, And it was

688
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 1: only because I was like I don't care if I

689
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: like go into credit card debt. I just have to

690
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 1: make sure this person is okay um. And so anyway,

691
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 1: so they did like killed it. They like did great

692
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 1: during school at the end of that thing. And the

693
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,800
Speaker 1: point being I got to June and they finished school

694
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:27,800
Speaker 1: and I collapsed, Rose and Tates took over my life

695
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:31,359
Speaker 1: and I just have never looked back. And then even

696
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,240
Speaker 1: for like when I was a little bit on the show,

697
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 1: I was like, maybe I should try to know, but

698
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 1: maybe wearing these like outfits and ship and I'm just like, well,

699
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 1: oh no. And also I did want so I was

700
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,240
Speaker 1: moving to New York, like kind of a huge fucking

701
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 1: deal for you because there l a I am LA

702
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 1: through and through at home, but the whole family was

703
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 1: you marked the kids. Yeah, well basically, like I said,

704
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 1: we'd had some trauma and I and I actually think,

705
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 1: like I don't want to cry, but I actually do

706
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 1: think that like for Bertie that it is like, you know,

707
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 1: it's like big tea trauma like for what they experienced

708
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 1: when they were coming out, and and so it was

709
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 1: hard there, and like it's hard living with ghosts, and

710
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:30,720
Speaker 1: it's hard living in a place where like everything reminds

711
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 1: you of a thing that you went through and came

712
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 1: and then um, and there were some other extenuating circumstances

713
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 1: from my personal life, UM that I don't want to

714
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 1: get into you, but that's you know, and uh and

715
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 1: then those and then the fires started last summer, like

716
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 1: the end of the summer, and I couldn't breathe and

717
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 1: I just had like a like a bird flying away

718
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 1: before an earthquake or something. I just like turned to

719
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 1: Mark and was like, we have to get the funk

720
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 1: out of here, like right now. And you know, we

721
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 1: flew with the kids and the dog and like a

722
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 1: bunch of stuff to New York and we were only

723
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 1: supposed to be here for three weeks. We're like, we're

724
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:23,320
Speaker 1: just gonna let things simmer down cool and in those

725
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:27,880
Speaker 1: three weeks. I also you have to remember, like fall

726
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:33,919
Speaker 1: before the election, it was it was I I left

727
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 1: l A two at that time. It was and it

728
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 1: was like being being in the city when the fires

729
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 1: were happening and everything was happening. You felt like you

730
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 1: couldn't go anywhere. And I remember what what you were,

731
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 1: what you were going through with your family, Like I

732
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 1: can't even imagine that was real tough. It was really tough.

733
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 1: And then and also like I was so terrified that

734
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 1: Trump was going to get reelected that I was like,

735
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 1: we have to be close to a Canadian border. Like

736
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 1: I was like thinking in terms of like how am

737
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 1: I going to survive and apocalypse, Like I like bought

738
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 1: property in the middle of no you know what I mean,

739
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 1: Like I went, I WENTZ. It's like I like doom.

740
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 1: I went like full doom step I support, I support,

741
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 1: and I was just like just in case, we've got it,

742
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:31,720
Speaker 1: like you know. Then and then like week two, Tina

743
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: Fey literally texted me and was like I have I

744
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 1: was gonna question, Oh my god, wow, because I had

745
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 1: heard about the show while the room was happening with

746
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 1: like our friend Matt Whitaker. But then so sweet and

747
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 1: also it's the best handwriting I've ever seen. He's like

748
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 1: a he's like a font. He's like, yeah, he's amazing.

749
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 1: But he but the new you guys moved to New

750
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 1: York sort of I didn't even Owen wasn't even on

751
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: my writer. I didn't know about the show. Oh my god.

752
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 1: And then not not only that, but like not for

753
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 1: it to be just like any job, but like the

754
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 1: great job. You deserve it. Oh, you deserve it. No,

755
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 1: you are the best. And you know what, I always

756
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,840
Speaker 1: every time, every time you have like a great project

757
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 1: or a great or a great opportunity, I'm always like,

758
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 1: I I just I'm like so excited that this is

759
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 1: a second season and you get to be like so

760
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 1: great on it, and I just feel like all the

761
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 1: way going back to like obviously freaking geeks, like I

762
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 1: love that show when it was on, and like just

763
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 1: knowing how fucking funny you were on Cougar Town, I

764
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 1: was just like I was like, and then I loved

765
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:39,839
Speaker 1: the Late night show. I mean, I just I'm such

766
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 1: a fan. I always root for you and like just

767
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 1: so that this happened and that that it came together

768
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 1: after such a fucked moment. But all of this for

769
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:53,399
Speaker 1: a people illustrate, but all of this really illustrates how

770
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 1: you probably are so fucking resourceful, because I would have

771
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,720
Speaker 1: never I don't know. I'm I'm staying at my sister's

772
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 1: right now, and I'm like looking around at my nieces

773
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 1: and my and my mom, who's also like tired from

774
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 1: like just like making sure they're okay, and like make

775
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:12,360
Speaker 1: sure they don't die. Second to sex that, I'm like,

776
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,399
Speaker 1: I could never be a parent and do what I'm doing.

777
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 1: That I could never. I could never do it. And

778
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 1: maybe someday it's the hardest thing I could possibly think of.

779
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's shockingly fucking hard. It's like so

780
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 1: hard that you're like, no, no, no, parenting is hard.

781
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 1: I get it. And then you're in it, like yeah, oh,

782
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 1: I would kill myself, but I can't because I'm a parent, Like,

783
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 1: I can't actually fucking do that. That's not an option

784
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 1: because I gotta stay. That's rule of culture number forty nine.

785
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 1: I would kill kill myself, but because I'm a parent,

786
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:56,919
Speaker 1: it's like it is so hard and it's so funny too,

787
00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 1: because I had Bertie when I was fairly young for

788
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 1: l a New York standards. Um it was twenty eight,

789
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:08,240
Speaker 1: and it was because of the writer's strike that was happening,

790
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 1: not even a joke. I literally was like, I'm probably

791
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:12,879
Speaker 1: not gonna work for a year, may as well just

792
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:17,839
Speaker 1: like have this baby now, and got pregnant immediately. Um,

793
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 1: because I also am like, if you look at me

794
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 1: the wrong way, I'm pregnant. Uh. And and Bertie showed up.

795
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 1: So I was like twenty nine years old, had this baby.

796
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:33,879
Speaker 1: I got cast in Cougar Town when Bertie was six

797
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 1: and a half months old. The pie did the pilot.

798
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 1: And you know, I now have almost thirteen year old

799
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 1: child who's fucking First of all, you guys have no

800
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:52,320
Speaker 1: idea about this generation. They are truly wild. Here's what

801
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say to you. They do not care if

802
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 1: they smell. They don't care if they have hair. Okay,

803
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 1: I care if they smell, though, no not I do too,

804
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,839
Speaker 1: And and I'm here to tell you they don't give

805
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 1: a fuck not a hair. They don't brush your fucking teeth,

806
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 1: they don't fish your hair. You know, he's not. It's

807
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 1: really not my experience with my teens friends and my

808
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:28,840
Speaker 1: teen they are It is like an evolution or something

809
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 1: of men. It is like that body stuff that we

810
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 1: talked about earlier. We all have ingrained in us, do it. No?

811
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 1: I don't think so, and I literally don't think so. Unbelievable.

812
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 1: I mean certain kids, I mean, these kids, like these

813
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 1: kids of this this version awareness, kids of the awareness

814
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 1: I mean. Okay, So, for instance, so my child obviously

815
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 1: knew they were gay when they were ten years old.

816
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 1: Came out to me and like, honestly, I know I've

817
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 1: read the books that not supposed to say this, but

818
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:02,839
Speaker 1: like not a surprise to me, you know what I mean,

819
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 1: like supposed to be their own journey and autonomy and

820
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:09,760
Speaker 1: all that. But like obviously I was like duh so um.

821
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 1: But that being said, like just like the whole awareness

822
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 1: and knowledge of all of the things. A friend of

823
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:23,800
Speaker 1: mine is on the board at the lgbt Q Center

824
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, which is like honestly one of the

825
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 1: greatest places on earth. They are doing such incredible work there.

826
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:40,240
Speaker 1: Every day, teenagers, children, children fucking show up on their doorstep.

827
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 1: They had to build an entire wing for kids, like

828
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 1: because they show up and they're like, I have nowhere else,

829
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 1: you know, I bought this bus ticket. I had nowhere

830
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 1: else to go. Um, my friend is on the board there.

831
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 1: Bertie had this like genius idea for a fundraise, Like

832
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 1: not a fundraise, I but like a like a charity.

833
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 1: Charity sounds weird. I don't even like charity anymore, but

834
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 1: like just an idea of they saw how much like

835
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 1: ship I was getting sent by brands and stuff that

836
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,839
Speaker 1: I wasn't using the products and like makeup and nail

837
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 1: polish and ship and Bertie was like, you know, the

838
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 1: trans teens at the lgbt Q Center should like be

839
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 1: able to have some nice stuff too, Like they deserve

840
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:26,799
Speaker 1: Charlotte Tillbury. They don't they you know, they shouldn't just

841
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 1: have to go to CBS. And I was like, give

842
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 1: the teens doctor Sturm. Give these teens doctor Sturm, and okay, Bertie, okay.

843
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 1: So Bertie started collecting from like wrote this little letter

844
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 1: and I sent it out to like some friends and

845
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 1: like influencer type humans that I'm friends with, and started

846
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 1: collecting all this makeup and we donated it to the

847
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 1: teens at the lgbt Q Center for Pride last year,

848
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 1: even though COVID but um, it was like four billion

849
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 1: boxes and like part of the thing was like I

850
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 1: was like, you have to organize it, Bertie into lake

851
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 1: types of makeup and like I just was like I

852
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 1: kind of just like made them do more work than

853
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:12,839
Speaker 1: you know, whatever. So we dropped it off and my

854
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:16,239
Speaker 1: friend Kareem, who's like a board member there, gave us

855
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 1: it was like we're going to do a tour with

856
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:20,360
Speaker 1: the president whatever. So we like we're walking around and

857
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 1: Bertie was like pointing out flags and like pointing out things,

858
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 1: and Kareem was like, um, yeah, I don't even I

859
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 1: don't know what that one is. I am. I am

860
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:34,800
Speaker 1: learning things on this tour. And I was like, yeah,

861
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:38,239
Speaker 1: they know fucking everything. I don't know if it's TikTok

862
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 1: or fucking twitch or what TikTok is teaching everyone teaching children.

863
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 1: I'm off of it. I'm not on it, but sure

864
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 1: I do have to watch it sometimes. But that are

865
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 1: you saying that they are learning things at the expense? Well,

866
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 1: I feel like, do they do do these? Do they

867
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:02,439
Speaker 1: not care about how each other? How? How how other

868
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:05,799
Speaker 1: people smell? Is that I have no way of phrasing this. Well,

869
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 1: but it's like they don't care how they smelled? Do

870
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 1: they care about what was important to the older generations?

871
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 1: Is just not important to them? You want to know

872
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 1: why because they are right and the fact that we

873
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:18,720
Speaker 1: didn't do a great job of keeping the world going.

874
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:22,839
Speaker 1: If honestly, if I get it, I get it because

875
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 1: if I'm gen Z and I'm looking at older people,

876
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, you're gonna tell me fuck you. But also

877
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:30,840
Speaker 1: like that's the whole thing. I mean, not not the

878
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:34,800
Speaker 1: whole thing, part of the thing I think with with

879
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:38,840
Speaker 1: like dismantling the binary and like the non binary of

880
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:43,720
Speaker 1: this general of their generation, which is just that like, guys,

881
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:47,240
Speaker 1: guess what, none of this fucking matters, Like you're actually

882
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 1: focused on all the wrong ship like the way that

883
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:54,279
Speaker 1: you smell on things that you buy to like embellish

884
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 1: this thing, this shell that you exist inside of. And

885
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 1: by the way, this shell that you exist inside of

886
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 1: like doesn't matter either, Like let's move on. There are

887
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 1: other things that we need to like worry about. Now.

888
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:11,400
Speaker 1: That's not to say that like there are not kids

889
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 1: of their generation that I see or just like doing

890
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:17,760
Speaker 1: TikTok's where they're like trying to look hot and they're

891
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 1: like vaping. I I don't know, but I do think

892
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 1: that there is Like did you guys ever hear the

893
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 1: term indigo children when you were young? They're just like

894
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 1: their children that are like born with a higher consciousness.

895
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 1: They're just like sort of like born in a different way.

896
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 1: And like maybe I don't know. Sometimes I think about

897
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 1: like the neurodivergent movement and like how that also really

898
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:48,399
Speaker 1: has a lot to do with the younger generation as well,

899
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 1: and like how those neurodivergent kids are like maybe that

900
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 1: is the fucking next evolution, right, and like they're sort

901
00:51:56,040 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 1: of operating and existing on a different plane where they

902
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 1: can like, you know, you think about Greta thorn Thornburgh.

903
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:07,319
Speaker 1: Why did I just say her name like that? I know,

904
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:09,280
Speaker 1: I know, but I said it like with an accent,

905
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 1: Like that's not you know what I mean? You know what? Maybe,

906
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:17,400
Speaker 1: but my kids still get mad at me when I

907
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 1: say Hawaii. So let's be real, Well, well they're just

908
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 1: my mom. Yeah, my mom lived in Hawaii. Kind it

909
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 1: is Hawaii, but my mother lived in Hawaii, uh, like

910
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 1: after she and my dad got married because he was

911
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:39,359
Speaker 1: in the Navy and he was stationed there. And so

912
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 1: I always grew up saying Hawaii because my mother, like

913
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 1: she just had a very theatrical way of it was

914
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 1: the text on the page anyway, So I've always said

915
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 1: it that way. But then at some point Bernie was like,

916
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 1: why do you say Hawaii like that? Like you're not

917
00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 1: from Hawaii, Mom, You're not supposed to say it like that.

918
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 1: I was like, well, it is how you're supposed to

919
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 1: say it. That's very cute that they that that that

920
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 1: Bertie's you know, kind of grilling you. He calls me

921
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:17,840
Speaker 1: out on everything please, But it's just like it's like

922
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 1: it's like an exchange didn't coming back saying like barth alone,

923
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:29,839
Speaker 1: It's like, fine, it's what I let that Hopkins. Wow,

924
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 1: to have to have a child that you are like

925
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:37,920
Speaker 1: intellectually not sure if you're on their level, it's that

926
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 1: didn't happened to me. And you know what, Matt Rodgers,

927
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 1: it's exhausting. Yeah. Like when I was in my late

928
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 1: my dad always told me I know everything and I

929
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 1: have like a long island dad, like I have a

930
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 1: long Island sports dad. And he would tell me. One time,

931
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 1: I was like, I wonder who I should ask this question?

932
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 1: Like I said out loud, like I have a question.

933
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:58,400
Speaker 1: I wonder who I should ask When I was little,

934
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:00,160
Speaker 1: and my dad turned to me and he said, you

935
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 1: always ask me every question. I know everything, And I

936
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 1: remember being like, okay, I'm gonna internalize that. So there

937
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 1: was like a couple of decades where I was like,

938
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:13,799
Speaker 1: my dad knows everything. My dad knows everything. If he

939
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:16,240
Speaker 1: says something, it's right, and that like confused me because

940
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:17,759
Speaker 1: he is, as I found out as an adult, a

941
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:21,759
Speaker 1: human being who is not always right. But that's a

942
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:26,240
Speaker 1: very that's a very baby boomer parent way of doing things,

943
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:27,799
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, it's so it's it's

944
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:30,439
Speaker 1: it's kind of fascinating that things have swung so far

945
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:33,839
Speaker 1: to the other side because it's like, um, now it's

946
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 1: just all about communication and sharing perspective because at that

947
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 1: time when I was the millennials parents. But by the way,

948
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 1: let's just let's just say the millennials parents, they did

949
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 1: not They did the opposite where they were like helicoptering

950
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 1: and like doing everything for them. But are you a millennial?

951
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:58,359
Speaker 1: I mean they're we're all, we're a millennial. I think

952
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:05,400
Speaker 1: you were my age me. I'm no, no, no, no, no,

953
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 1: I wasn't horrid, but at all, I'm I'm a thirty

954
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:10,399
Speaker 1: one year old man. Wait what yeah? Did you think

955
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 1: I was? That's so funny to me. No, I thought

956
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 1: I'd googled you. It's a different different mad rogers googled

957
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:22,840
Speaker 1: you earlier today and I was like, you're you're the

958
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:24,799
Speaker 1: same age as me. And then today I was just like,

959
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 1: looks fucking amazing. I was like so happy for so

960
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 1: now this makes way more Now, it makes way more

961
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 1: sense what had happened. I think you stumbled upon the

962
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 1: American Idol contestant Matt Rodgers. Okay, yeah, oh, and you

963
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:46,399
Speaker 1: know that ruined my life when I was that age,

964
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 1: and I was like, because all I wanted wanted to

965
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 1: do when I was twelve American Idol. And then when

966
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 1: I saw that Matt Rogers, the American and a contestant

967
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 1: has already already taken that niche, I was like, well,

968
00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 1: fuck now I can never be on American Idol or else.

969
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:00,760
Speaker 1: The storyline is going to be you have our secondary

970
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 1: Rogers old, yeah, I got you now. Um, this is

971
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:07,799
Speaker 1: definitely not who I googled earlier. And it's completely fun

972
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:09,759
Speaker 1: because you know what, again, it's the fault of my

973
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:13,440
Speaker 1: father for Namy Matt Rogers. We're dragging Rich Rogers today

974
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:16,839
Speaker 1: because you know what, Rich, you should have done better.

975
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 1: Why wasn't something? No, he's the best. Well, it's funny

976
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:26,319
Speaker 1: because I think I think over time he realized he

977
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 1: didn't know everything. But I definitely think at the time

978
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 1: when he told me that he thought he knew everything.

979
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:33,239
Speaker 1: It's so funny. The shock that's enveloping you as you've

980
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:36,960
Speaker 1: realized I'm not that one person. I was like, you

981
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 1: were born in seventy eight year a year older than me.

982
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 1: And then I'm like, this makes so much more sense.

983
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 1: I'm almost like I'm embarrassed by myself in this moment,

984
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 1: Like I can't tell you, but you don't have to google.

985
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 1: This is how I knew. I knew that she didn't

986
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 1: know who I was. At the Emmy's Bowen. You were

987
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 1: like trying to gas me. You were like and she

988
00:56:56,200 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 1: said she saw I'm like that when you were said,

989
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:07,279
Speaker 1: she said, I saw you with Matt. Yeah I did,

990
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 1: Yeah I did, Matt. I did. Hey, Matt, can you

991
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:14,800
Speaker 1: just you know what, I'm gonna ask you to hold

992
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 1: multiple things being true at one. Okay, yes, yes, number one.

993
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:22,920
Speaker 1: Here's the thing that I need you to hold, like

994
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 1: I'm also a professional bitch, and like I had to

995
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:31,480
Speaker 1: google like a Wikipedia tonight when I was coming when

996
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 1: I was like coming on the show literally minutes ago,

997
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 1: I mean no, right before I pressed like joined the

998
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 1: right before I just was like just a real quick refresh,

999
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 1: just a real quick and I just literally saw seventy

1000
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 1: eight and I was like okay, seventy, I got that's funny.

1001
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 1: I didn't realize that wild. This is why I needed

1002
00:57:57,160 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 1: This is why I finally need a Wikipedia, because I

1003
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 1: have enough things now where I could get my own.

1004
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 1: Because people are confused that basically just googled you, and

1005
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 1: the SEO of the search and the search engine optimization

1006
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:09,360
Speaker 1: is tipping in your favor now because now your name

1007
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 1: is coming your Matt Rodgers is coming up, your entry

1008
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 1: is coming up more. One of these days, your IMDb

1009
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 1: came up first. Well, we love that, but I hate IMDb.

1010
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 1: And also I was like, I know his IMDb. I

1011
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 1: don't need that. I want Wikipeda. I want to know

1012
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:33,480
Speaker 1: where he's from. Rolled down and pitch Pigeon Forge I hit,

1013
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 1: and I hit the Rancho Cucamanda, and I was like,

1014
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 1: also wilds like a wild Okay, I swear that this

1015
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 1: is oh my god, wait and now I see this

1016
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 1: Matt Rogers is and this is definitely not you. It's

1017
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 1: actually so funny how few things we have in common,

1018
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 1: except potentially him being on American Idol and me at

1019
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:57,480
Speaker 1: a young age wanting to be that's sort of and

1020
00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:00,200
Speaker 1: you know what else, there's a candidate for office name

1021
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 1: Matt Rogers and he his his Twitter handle is at

1022
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 1: Polito Dope and like he constantly gets like all the traffic.

1023
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 1: I'm just named something that approximately a hundred thousand other

1024
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:13,960
Speaker 1: people are named, and that's just a burden I carry.

1025
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 1: I'm not a busy Phillips, That's true. Do you ever

1026
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 1: think about changing it? I did think about changing it.

1027
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 1: I almost changed it. And this is gonna God, the

1028
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 1: readers are going to drag me for this one. I

1029
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 1: almost changed it to Mac Rogers and they see Rogers. Wow,

1030
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 1: I've never told yeah, because I thought, like, I'll still

1031
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:41,600
Speaker 1: be able to I was like be able to respond

1032
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 1: to it, like because I didn't want to create like

1033
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 1: a big name when I was already like a right,

1034
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 1: you're right, this is actually I just I wanted to

1035
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:52,400
Speaker 1: be able to respond to it. Like if people were

1036
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:55,400
Speaker 1: like this hard am in a hardy am in a

1037
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:59,000
Speaker 1: hard a like Mac, I could still do that. But

1038
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 1: then I was like, I can't possibly be named Mac,

1039
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 1: like there's not a goddamn wife. And so I continue

1040
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:05,960
Speaker 1: to live my life as Matt Rogers, and I always

1041
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 1: sort of stick to the thing of like it's okay

1042
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 1: if a million people are named this because one day

1043
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 1: they will be able to distinguish me. One day they

1044
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:18,160
Speaker 1: will and um and I can and I do accept

1045
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:23,280
Speaker 1: for my failing earlier this evening, when I just like Lakely,

1046
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:28,160
Speaker 1: was scrolling but also there I wasn't in college. There

1047
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:34,280
Speaker 1: was this kid whose name was Matt, and like, junior year,

1048
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:38,320
Speaker 1: not freshman year, junior year, decided to go by Kevin,

1049
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:44,280
Speaker 1: decided to That's what I'm saying. He went to Matt

1050
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:47,400
Speaker 1: to Kevin, and then we were all so fucking confused,

1051
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:48,960
Speaker 1: and when you would reference him, you would just be

1052
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:53,280
Speaker 1: you know, Kevin, Matt, Matt, Kevin. It's like going from

1053
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:58,000
Speaker 1: Ryan to Chris. It's like, okay, cool, wild, Well anyway,

1054
01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:01,320
Speaker 1: that's insane. We okay, but wait, we have to ask

1055
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:03,920
Speaker 1: the question. We are we are? We are sort of

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01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:08,120
Speaker 1: flying through this episode at a joyous and sort of

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01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:13,080
Speaker 1: raucous pace, but we have to know, well, this is

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Speaker 1: a love fast and you'll come back. But Busy, what

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01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:21,640
Speaker 1: was the culture that made you say culture was for you? Bowen?

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Speaker 1: Do you want to sort of elaborate on the question.

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01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:28,200
Speaker 1: You don't have to, I know, I listened to the podcast. Okay, alright, Busy,

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01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:30,520
Speaker 1: the culture that made you say culture is for you.

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01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:36,720
Speaker 1: People mag People. My mother was a subscriber since the

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01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 1: eight like early eighties, guys. I was one in seventy nine,

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01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:47,720
Speaker 1: and I would devour every issue and I just I mean,

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01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:52,440
Speaker 1: People mag to me was everything. I mean, that was

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01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:57,440
Speaker 1: celet found out what was going on, everything everything. I

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01:01:57,600 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 1: earlier tonight was actually thinking about this question, and I

1069
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:05,680
Speaker 1: was like, was it bos Lerman's Romeo and Juliet was it? Sure?

1070
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:08,520
Speaker 1: It could have been, could have been, But if I'm

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01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:13,200
Speaker 1: being honest, it was People mag. It was Ryan White

1072
01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:18,880
Speaker 1: on the cover. It was like, fucking I can't cover No.

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01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:25,120
Speaker 1: I read every fucking People Magazine. My my mom may

1074
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:28,080
Speaker 1: still have a subscription. I don't know. I know that

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01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:35,640
Speaker 1: I subscribe personally to People mag online. Still still supports

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01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:44,000
Speaker 1: but star tracks Revolutionary. Yeah, so wait, favorite issues? I

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01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:46,280
Speaker 1: mean was the sexiest men Alive Issues sort of a

1078
01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:50,600
Speaker 1: big moment, People's most Beautiful? Like what what were favorite events?

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01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:54,240
Speaker 1: I mean I did love, I did love the most Beautiful.

1080
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:58,840
Speaker 1: I never, like was super down with the sexiest because

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01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:02,200
Speaker 1: it's like not my vibe. Like I'm never on board

1082
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:08,200
Speaker 1: with like a Hugh Jackman person. Yeah, I don't usually agree. Like,

1083
01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:09,960
Speaker 1: remember a few years ago, who do they pick you?

1084
01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:13,560
Speaker 1: When they picked Blake Shelton, I was like what people

1085
01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:16,400
Speaker 1: people were like, what's this for? And also like I'm

1086
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:18,400
Speaker 1: not saying he should have been who they picked, but

1087
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:21,600
Speaker 1: like he sits next to Adam Levin every week, you're

1088
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:24,000
Speaker 1: going to say that's the sexiest man alive. Like I

1089
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:27,720
Speaker 1: see someone more attractive that he sits next to Matt.

1090
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:31,640
Speaker 1: You like Adam because he like favors you more. What

1091
01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:34,560
Speaker 1: why are you saying you're like more of an Adam

1092
01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:39,040
Speaker 1: Levine type. Sure, yeah, some people are. Some people's types

1093
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:41,520
Speaker 1: of Blake Shelton will give them that. I mean, you

1094
01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:44,040
Speaker 1: know I did. I did work with someone who said, no,

1095
01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:50,720
Speaker 1: not Gwyneth. What's her name is a Gwyneth? I think

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01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:55,360
Speaker 1: she's Gwen. I worked with someone on Hotdog who was

1097
01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:58,760
Speaker 1: a producer on the Voice, and I asked one time,

1098
01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:02,000
Speaker 1: I was like, what's the you And she said to me,

1099
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:07,919
Speaker 1: you know what in person? You get it? You wait

1100
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:11,760
Speaker 1: full confession. So I actually I have known I have

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01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:16,280
Speaker 1: known Adam Living for a really long time and and

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01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:22,160
Speaker 1: the first season of the Voice, I don't remember why

1103
01:04:22,600 --> 01:04:25,560
Speaker 1: or what. I don't even remember what was happening. We

1104
01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:30,000
Speaker 1: went over to Adam's house at the time. He was like, hey, guys,

1105
01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:32,200
Speaker 1: come over, we're having this like some people over to

1106
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:38,000
Speaker 1: watch the finale um And so we went and Blake

1107
01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:40,800
Speaker 1: was there and he was sitting on his table in

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01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:44,280
Speaker 1: the backyard and he and I were chatting, and I

1109
01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:49,640
Speaker 1: did fucking get it. I fully in person, you get it.

1110
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:52,440
Speaker 1: So people don't just ends like there's got to be

1111
01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:56,680
Speaker 1: that yeah, very sparkly, very magnetic and like real funny

1112
01:04:56,840 --> 01:05:00,040
Speaker 1: and real real cute and real like. And the the

1113
01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:02,720
Speaker 1: thing is is, like, I mean, I don't know if

1114
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:05,959
Speaker 1: he's a narcissist, but he had the thing that people

1115
01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:09,320
Speaker 1: that I have known who are narcissists have where when

1116
01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:12,760
Speaker 1: they look at you, you feel as though the entire

1117
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:20,560
Speaker 1: world falls away, honey, honey. So it's a it's an

1118
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:25,600
Speaker 1: external thing. It's an externalizing when when a narcissist turns

1119
01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:30,800
Speaker 1: their focus on you for however long it is, it's

1120
01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 1: almost as if like in a cartoons, Yes, the entire

1121
01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:39,560
Speaker 1: rest of the world falls away, and it's like all

1122
01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:43,280
Speaker 1: like sparkles and you're just like locked into this moment

1123
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:48,200
Speaker 1: because they're so like their gaze on you shining their light,

1124
01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:52,560
Speaker 1: which is why when it is like being in ak hole.

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01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:55,840
Speaker 1: You guys, I was a teenager in the nineties. I

1126
01:05:55,840 --> 01:06:02,160
Speaker 1: went to so many raves her so, which is why

1127
01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:06,160
Speaker 1: when a narcissist then takes their light away, it is

1128
01:06:06,560 --> 01:06:15,400
Speaker 1: freezing cold. It is just killed me. You just like

1129
01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:19,560
Speaker 1: logged in the reason why I haven't been able to

1130
01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:23,280
Speaker 1: get over this guy, Matt. There's this guy that is

1131
01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:28,040
Speaker 1: ruining my life because of his influence on Bowen, and

1132
01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:32,600
Speaker 1: I just keep trying to and that's what's what it is.

1133
01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:35,960
Speaker 1: And and Blake, and this is the Blake Shelton. I

1134
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:37,920
Speaker 1: don't know. I just I just know I felt that

1135
01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:39,960
Speaker 1: a little bit with Blake. I don't know, this is

1136
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:42,760
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I don't know. I cannot I can't

1137
01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:47,120
Speaker 1: say that he is that confirmed. I have had I

1138
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:52,320
Speaker 1: have had experiences and relationships, both romantic and non romantic,

1139
01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:57,440
Speaker 1: with narcissists, and I know that feeling. And I remember

1140
01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:01,480
Speaker 1: meeting Mr Shelton in that backyard for ten fucking minutes

1141
01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:05,560
Speaker 1: and being like, it's the feeling. Yeah, it's the feeling.

1142
01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:12,720
Speaker 1: Oh no, it's so cold when he looks away. This

1143
01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:17,920
Speaker 1: is interesting, Okay. I have two things older than you.

1144
01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:20,520
Speaker 1: I have so many things. You know, what do you mean?

1145
01:07:20,680 --> 01:07:23,040
Speaker 1: This is? This is perfect? Okay? Well I knew was

1146
01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:24,880
Speaker 1: that the way you said when you said Ryan White issue,

1147
01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:28,200
Speaker 1: I was right there with you? Maybe I was, and

1148
01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:30,400
Speaker 1: I just did forgot. The first thing I want to

1149
01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:32,120
Speaker 1: talk about is like people was kind of the only

1150
01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:35,240
Speaker 1: game in town besides entertainment tonight. But like it didn't

1151
01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:40,080
Speaker 1: Maybe no, but not when I was not when I

1152
01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:44,400
Speaker 1: was not when I was coming up late nineties or

1153
01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:47,920
Speaker 1: mid nineties, right, I don't have the time quite right,

1154
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:52,560
Speaker 1: But people, people was it? People was classy. Also there

1155
01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:55,320
Speaker 1: was always like there was always like also you know

1156
01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:59,560
Speaker 1: what um like Long Island? Lolita was like the guy

1157
01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:01,880
Speaker 1: who did nose job, the guy who did my nose job.

1158
01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:06,800
Speaker 1: Did the woman who mar the guy who did my

1159
01:08:06,920 --> 01:08:09,240
Speaker 1: nose and busy. I want to say, not that this matters,

1160
01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:11,040
Speaker 1: but I medically needed to get it done. So I've

1161
01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:14,760
Speaker 1: got a medically medically necessary nose job. Non elective guy,

1162
01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:18,280
Speaker 1: non elective. The guy who did my surgery put Mary

1163
01:08:18,400 --> 01:08:22,880
Speaker 1: Joe's face back together, okay, and did a great job.

1164
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:27,400
Speaker 1: You know what, look for everyone, for everyone. That's a

1165
01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:31,280
Speaker 1: beautiful nose. Thank you so much. But I had to.

1166
01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:32,880
Speaker 1: I had to. I had to. I had to jump

1167
01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:36,320
Speaker 1: in there. No, that was like that was like a

1168
01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:40,960
Speaker 1: great cover. That was a great People cover. I mean

1169
01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:44,120
Speaker 1: all of them, liszt Liz Taylor, like just sucking. Every

1170
01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:48,479
Speaker 1: single one was gay people. Yep, I'm gay with people.

1171
01:08:50,280 --> 01:08:52,800
Speaker 1: Time for entertainment. Time, it was time. It was time

1172
01:08:52,840 --> 01:09:03,000
Speaker 1: a time, it was time. Was like this like this

1173
01:09:03,280 --> 01:09:10,200
Speaker 1: right with the hands out yeah, shrug emoji. No, yeah,

1174
01:09:10,320 --> 01:09:14,960
Speaker 1: I'm cruel just like wait and then and then I've

1175
01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:18,839
Speaker 1: never been nice to me. But okay, I have a question.

1176
01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:23,120
Speaker 1: I have a question about people, Busy. Was it bizarre

1177
01:09:23,360 --> 01:09:28,800
Speaker 1: when you happened upon yourself and a People magazine? Know

1178
01:09:29,280 --> 01:09:32,920
Speaker 1: what was to change your relationship? Okay, go no, no, no, no,

1179
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:36,160
Speaker 1: about one. I was thrilled. It was the thrill of

1180
01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:39,439
Speaker 1: my fucking life when I made it finally into a

1181
01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:49,280
Speaker 1: People mag Um. I was devastated, devastated when my book

1182
01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:56,479
Speaker 1: came out. Um, I read a book, yeah, yep. And

1183
01:09:57,280 --> 01:10:00,439
Speaker 1: when my book came out, I was devastated that the

1184
01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:07,040
Speaker 1: only publication that was so reductive. In their five bombshells

1185
01:10:07,400 --> 01:10:13,000
Speaker 1: from Busy Phillips new memoir with People mag so devastated

1186
01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:21,559
Speaker 1: that I wrote a letter to Jess Cagel was Yeah, Jess,

1187
01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:26,560
Speaker 1: I was so fucking hurt. I was like, guys, of

1188
01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:31,160
Speaker 1: all the public I have literally read your mag since

1189
01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:35,080
Speaker 1: I was eight years old. That's not hyperbolic, that is

1190
01:10:35,439 --> 01:10:40,439
Speaker 1: a legitimate fact. I have like like every plane crash

1191
01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:45,759
Speaker 1: on the cover, every like child murdered, every fucking celebrity wedding,

1192
01:10:48,080 --> 01:10:53,680
Speaker 1: non story. You guys have no idea. I've been scriber

1193
01:10:54,400 --> 01:11:01,280
Speaker 1: and a susporter, literal reader, literal reader since I was

1194
01:11:01,479 --> 01:11:05,040
Speaker 1: a child, and of all the publication, of all the

1195
01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:09,800
Speaker 1: fucking publications to do the thing that I so was

1196
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:14,400
Speaker 1: so terrified would happen when I wrote a memoir. It

1197
01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:17,720
Speaker 1: was people and god damn it, how dare you? Like,

1198
01:11:17,920 --> 01:11:23,160
Speaker 1: I was so fucking mad, just tab the tab the

1199
01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:27,600
Speaker 1: stuff that was like more like Franco pushed her to

1200
01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:31,400
Speaker 1: the ground and then like literally like in bold letters,

1201
01:11:31,439 --> 01:11:36,200
Speaker 1: like she had an abortion at fifteen. Like I was

1202
01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:41,000
Speaker 1: just like, how are you fucking doing this? This is

1203
01:11:41,560 --> 01:11:44,799
Speaker 1: you guys, are legit. I would expect I would expect

1204
01:11:44,840 --> 01:11:47,200
Speaker 1: this from US Weekly. I never expect I never saw

1205
01:11:47,240 --> 01:11:49,479
Speaker 1: it coming from Is that what you said in the

1206
01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:56,160
Speaker 1: letter expect I was bad when US Weekly kind of

1207
01:11:56,280 --> 01:11:58,600
Speaker 1: kind of stomped to the forefront like they were like

1208
01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:01,200
Speaker 1: the the the one of record there for like a

1209
01:12:01,240 --> 01:12:03,280
Speaker 1: couple of years, and they really made a hard left

1210
01:12:03,360 --> 01:12:07,160
Speaker 1: into tabloid. I was so disappointed because it really did

1211
01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:10,560
Speaker 1: become like one of those like what is the what

1212
01:12:10,680 --> 01:12:14,120
Speaker 1: a Frank asked me was like is Tom Cruise dead?

1213
01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:17,680
Speaker 1: It really genuinely became like one of those people that

1214
01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:21,400
Speaker 1: was like Jennef Radisson, three tits and divorced again. It's

1215
01:12:21,479 --> 01:12:23,640
Speaker 1: just like what are you talking about it? But it

1216
01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:26,040
Speaker 1: became like that, and I was so mad because I

1217
01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:32,479
Speaker 1: loved fashion Police. It was it was my fashion Police,

1218
01:12:32,960 --> 01:12:35,160
Speaker 1: some of my first exposure to American comedy because we

1219
01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:38,960
Speaker 1: just moved from Canada. Yeah, we had a subscription for

1220
01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:42,479
Speaker 1: US to Weekly from the from the previous and then

1221
01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:45,519
Speaker 1: we would just flipped to like Joan Rivers talking about

1222
01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:48,439
Speaker 1: like you know what what you know Janet Jackson wore

1223
01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:51,720
Speaker 1: or whatever the hell? Like literally that whenever anyone was

1224
01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:54,880
Speaker 1: wearing like a feather ensemble, there was, without fail, there

1225
01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:57,080
Speaker 1: was a joke that was like how many muppets did

1226
01:12:57,120 --> 01:13:01,120
Speaker 1: you have to kill to make this? My general ask

1227
01:13:01,240 --> 01:13:05,000
Speaker 1: would think that was so funny that make a garment.

1228
01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:06,920
Speaker 1: I thought that was the funniest ship ever. And I

1229
01:13:06,920 --> 01:13:10,439
Speaker 1: would roll. I was. I was in Fashion Police a

1230
01:13:10,479 --> 01:13:16,599
Speaker 1: couple of times. No featured deserve tis probably Yeah, I'm sure,

1231
01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:19,280
Speaker 1: look at me. I love a bold print. You know

1232
01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:23,280
Speaker 1: what I mean? Right now, print you take a big swing.

1233
01:13:23,640 --> 01:13:25,720
Speaker 1: But Joan was amazing and she was nice. And I

1234
01:13:26,040 --> 01:13:29,200
Speaker 1: went on Fashion Police on E like when it was

1235
01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:31,400
Speaker 1: on yeah, oh yeah, years like, and I sat in

1236
01:13:31,560 --> 01:13:36,960
Speaker 1: Joan's lap and she was a delight And actually I

1237
01:13:37,160 --> 01:13:41,040
Speaker 1: just had this reading from a medium, um and my yeah,

1238
01:13:41,200 --> 01:13:43,799
Speaker 1: it's gonna be on my podcast later, like we recorded

1239
01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:47,799
Speaker 1: it for the podcast because Casey saint On she's my partner.

1240
01:13:47,920 --> 01:13:49,960
Speaker 1: She was my show We're aren busy tonight. You know,

1241
01:13:50,120 --> 01:13:54,920
Speaker 1: she wrote for Joan years. She wrote like jokes for

1242
01:13:55,040 --> 01:13:58,200
Speaker 1: her and would write write like like punch up things

1243
01:13:58,280 --> 01:14:01,200
Speaker 1: for her. Whatever. They were good friends. And Joan came

1244
01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:07,880
Speaker 1: through on the reading. She when is that one coming up?

1245
01:14:08,160 --> 01:14:09,960
Speaker 1: I don't know. We have to figure it out because

1246
01:14:10,280 --> 01:14:13,439
Speaker 1: because we did this, like she did this thing with

1247
01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:17,599
Speaker 1: the medium, which was fucking us. This medium was fucking

1248
01:14:17,640 --> 01:14:23,160
Speaker 1: wild before well, honey, like I said, I'm a real

1249
01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:25,680
Speaker 1: l a bitch. I've done everything, you know what I mean,

1250
01:14:25,880 --> 01:14:29,160
Speaker 1: Like like it's like we've gone through the journey. I

1251
01:14:29,240 --> 01:14:31,800
Speaker 1: have so many crystals on and I'm like constantly calling

1252
01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:38,519
Speaker 1: in the spirits whatever. But um, this medium was unreal

1253
01:14:39,439 --> 01:14:42,240
Speaker 1: and had things that were like there's no it's not

1254
01:14:42,439 --> 01:14:47,479
Speaker 1: google able, like my The whole reason why we even,

1255
01:14:48,439 --> 01:14:50,840
Speaker 1: like how I even got in touch with her was

1256
01:14:50,920 --> 01:14:57,000
Speaker 1: that Shintira Jackson, who's a writer I don't know, so

1257
01:14:57,240 --> 01:15:00,519
Speaker 1: she and Tira who's having her reading with her, and

1258
01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:04,519
Speaker 1: my fucking grandma came through in the reading and was

1259
01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:08,360
Speaker 1: like and she and here this is like she and

1260
01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:11,120
Speaker 1: Tire and night like we text we you know. She

1261
01:15:11,320 --> 01:15:13,479
Speaker 1: we're not doing the podcast together anymore because she's like

1262
01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:15,920
Speaker 1: working on Big Mouth and she's just like I'm overwhelmed

1263
01:15:15,960 --> 01:15:17,960
Speaker 1: and I need to focus on this. I'm like, great,

1264
01:15:18,479 --> 01:15:22,679
Speaker 1: live your life. Um she really is. And she texted

1265
01:15:22,720 --> 01:15:24,960
Speaker 1: me out of nowhere. This is so random, But I

1266
01:15:25,040 --> 01:15:27,880
Speaker 1: was having a reading with a medium and this old

1267
01:15:28,240 --> 01:15:31,680
Speaker 1: lady came through a grandma with my grandma, and she

1268
01:15:31,800 --> 01:15:37,080
Speaker 1: said that her granddaughter was elizab Busy. Elizab Busy and

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01:15:37,240 --> 01:15:39,600
Speaker 1: she has a tattoo on her foot. Do you have

1270
01:15:39,720 --> 01:15:42,599
Speaker 1: a tattoo on your foot? And I was like, yes, bitch,

1271
01:15:42,760 --> 01:15:46,800
Speaker 1: I have a tattoo on my line. And here's the

1272
01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:51,080
Speaker 1: kicker Elizabeth is and here's the kicker. My grandma never

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01:15:51,200 --> 01:15:55,320
Speaker 1: called me busy. She only called me Lila Bett, which

1274
01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:59,000
Speaker 1: is weirdly like the new name of the Harry and

1275
01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:05,679
Speaker 1: Megan baby Lila, Bet, elizabeths and bet like. She refused

1276
01:16:05,720 --> 01:16:07,400
Speaker 1: to call me busy, but she would call me like

1277
01:16:07,479 --> 01:16:11,519
Speaker 1: these other weird nicknames. And so she fucking came through.

1278
01:16:11,560 --> 01:16:12,960
Speaker 1: So I was like, well, this is wild. I gotta

1279
01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:15,439
Speaker 1: talk to this lady. So she and Tira put me

1280
01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:18,320
Speaker 1: in touch with the medium and then we had this

1281
01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:20,960
Speaker 1: and I was like, can my producer Casey come and

1282
01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:23,560
Speaker 1: can we record it for my podcast? And then we

1283
01:16:23,720 --> 01:16:27,120
Speaker 1: did and it was wild and the medium was like

1284
01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:30,920
Speaker 1: doing here's the things. Well, Joan fully came through. Here's

1285
01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:34,120
Speaker 1: the thing that I'm trying, Like that is so hard

1286
01:16:34,240 --> 01:16:39,560
Speaker 1: to in part how it's not google herble. She was

1287
01:16:39,720 --> 01:16:48,080
Speaker 1: doing um body movements that my grandmother did, like like

1288
01:16:48,720 --> 01:16:54,800
Speaker 1: like really specific movements like that my grandma did too.

1289
01:16:55,160 --> 01:16:57,679
Speaker 1: Like my grandma would do these like little like damp

1290
01:16:57,760 --> 01:17:00,400
Speaker 1: step things that I've never fucking I mean, it's just

1291
01:17:00,520 --> 01:17:01,920
Speaker 1: like a weird thing that she would do when I

1292
01:17:01,960 --> 01:17:04,439
Speaker 1: was a little kid and she was my grandma. And

1293
01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:08,479
Speaker 1: this lady fully fucking did them on the zoom and

1294
01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:10,720
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm so sorry, what are you doing?

1295
01:17:11,280 --> 01:17:16,759
Speaker 1: Guys ready for this fucking bullshit. At two hours after

1296
01:17:17,080 --> 01:17:21,640
Speaker 1: we record this session with this lady, I'm downstairs. My

1297
01:17:22,479 --> 01:17:26,720
Speaker 1: younger one Cricket, comes downstairs. She's seven, she'll be eight

1298
01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:29,679
Speaker 1: in July, and she's like, Mom, you want to see

1299
01:17:29,680 --> 01:17:32,880
Speaker 1: the dance I just came up with and does the

1300
01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:41,880
Speaker 1: same fucking my grandma did that. This lady, this medium

1301
01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:44,400
Speaker 1: did on the zooms. I was like, I'm just way busy.

1302
01:17:45,200 --> 01:17:47,479
Speaker 1: I'm on Bang, I'm on Bang, and I just I

1303
01:17:47,600 --> 01:17:51,040
Speaker 1: just bing busy Phillips grandma dance and it's the first result.

1304
01:17:51,160 --> 01:17:59,839
Speaker 1: It's not the fu I was like, God, Matt crazy,

1305
01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:02,120
Speaker 1: That's how I know on you too, because I am

1306
01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:04,080
Speaker 1: the one that's like I fully buy into all of it.

1307
01:18:04,200 --> 01:18:07,960
Speaker 1: Like do you ever watch I say, well, you were

1308
01:18:08,000 --> 01:18:11,479
Speaker 1: not into astrology until we started talking about it, Okay,

1309
01:18:11,680 --> 01:18:13,880
Speaker 1: but do you ever have you ever been on away

1310
01:18:13,960 --> 01:18:18,680
Speaker 1: from the Mike he's like very recently. Okay, but have

1311
01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:21,800
Speaker 1: you ever been on or do you watch Tyler Hamring

1312
01:18:21,840 --> 01:18:24,880
Speaker 1: Hollywood Media? Okay, what I call tink. He wanted, he

1313
01:18:25,040 --> 01:18:26,840
Speaker 1: wanted to, he wanted me to be on his chef.

1314
01:18:27,120 --> 01:18:30,080
Speaker 1: You have to, I said. I said, no, I couldn't

1315
01:18:31,200 --> 01:18:33,639
Speaker 1: because Matt, because I've had because I've had a famous

1316
01:18:33,840 --> 01:18:36,240
Speaker 1: friend die, and I'm just like, I don't want the

1317
01:18:36,280 --> 01:18:38,960
Speaker 1: whole show to be like about Heath Ledgers, Like I

1318
01:18:39,120 --> 01:18:44,760
Speaker 1: just can't and I can't do that to Heath and

1319
01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:46,400
Speaker 1: I can't do that to my God. I can't do

1320
01:18:46,479 --> 01:18:49,559
Speaker 1: this mission. I can't do So that's why I've always said,

1321
01:18:49,640 --> 01:18:53,920
Speaker 1: now you must continue to say I will but in

1322
01:18:54,160 --> 01:18:56,280
Speaker 1: but in the privacy of your own medium home like

1323
01:18:56,920 --> 01:19:01,439
Speaker 1: go off. She had were so many people that showed

1324
01:19:01,520 --> 01:19:06,160
Speaker 1: up and it was fucking wild and she was incredible,

1325
01:19:06,320 --> 01:19:13,080
Speaker 1: but like it was a pretty crazy night for information. Yeah,

1326
01:19:13,439 --> 01:19:15,920
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get let's get let's let's get her

1327
01:19:15,920 --> 01:19:19,200
Speaker 1: on the pud. You should get her too, and then

1328
01:19:19,320 --> 01:19:23,000
Speaker 1: she that's Tyler like whatever, Well we well we just

1329
01:19:23,080 --> 01:19:25,559
Speaker 1: copped this idea straight from your podcast. But I mean,

1330
01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:29,960
Speaker 1: my podcast is so much less successful than this one.

1331
01:19:30,280 --> 01:19:35,360
Speaker 1: I don't probably better than us for sure. I wait,

1332
01:19:35,400 --> 01:19:38,800
Speaker 1: didn't wait, I don't know how podcast. Okay, your guests

1333
01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:42,360
Speaker 1: are like Tina Fey, like Tina, it's just friends. It's

1334
01:19:42,400 --> 01:19:45,880
Speaker 1: just people that I know, like you know, the people,

1335
01:19:46,280 --> 01:19:57,439
Speaker 1: you know, the coolest people. Okay, the people thing when

1336
01:19:57,520 --> 01:19:59,519
Speaker 1: they were rejective about your book, I mean, because you

1337
01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:01,800
Speaker 1: would already known at that point that like entertainment media

1338
01:20:01,920 --> 01:20:05,160
Speaker 1: is like mostly hollow. It was my biggest fear though,

1339
01:20:05,200 --> 01:20:07,519
Speaker 1: in writing a memoir. It was my biggest fear because

1340
01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:10,479
Speaker 1: of course I was like, I'm gonna do it, and

1341
01:20:10,520 --> 01:20:14,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna name names because fuck it when people don't

1342
01:20:14,240 --> 01:20:18,160
Speaker 1: and I am. And then part two is that I

1343
01:20:18,280 --> 01:20:21,519
Speaker 1: hate reading people's memoirs where they were like I don't

1344
01:20:21,560 --> 01:20:24,120
Speaker 1: know why I ended up like fucked in the head

1345
01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:28,160
Speaker 1: and then an actor. But here we are like I'm funny,

1346
01:20:28,880 --> 01:20:31,880
Speaker 1: Like it's like you're where's the chunk of the part

1347
01:20:31,960 --> 01:20:34,920
Speaker 1: where you like had the trauma, Like what's that? It's

1348
01:20:35,120 --> 01:20:37,960
Speaker 1: the only thing that's interesting to me. Our origin stories,

1349
01:20:38,120 --> 01:20:39,759
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and like they all build

1350
01:20:39,840 --> 01:20:43,160
Speaker 1: upon each other building blocks, right, So I wanted to

1351
01:20:43,240 --> 01:20:45,920
Speaker 1: do it in the way that was like the most

1352
01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:49,080
Speaker 1: truthful way I could do it. But my biggest fear

1353
01:20:49,280 --> 01:20:54,880
Speaker 1: was being reduced to like celebrity gossip um because I

1354
01:20:54,920 --> 01:20:59,320
Speaker 1: actually also you know, have a certain amount of um

1355
01:20:59,560 --> 01:21:01,920
Speaker 1: hubre us and I think I'm a better fucking writer

1356
01:21:02,120 --> 01:21:05,000
Speaker 1: than that, and like and I and I'm just like, well,

1357
01:21:05,080 --> 01:21:08,320
Speaker 1: I reject that because I'm actually smarter. You know. Then

1358
01:21:08,400 --> 01:21:11,560
Speaker 1: you're both just totally and to see to see a

1359
01:21:11,640 --> 01:21:14,880
Speaker 1: publication like people that you've loved your whole life was

1360
01:21:18,439 --> 01:21:21,760
Speaker 1: exactly and I was just like, fuck you, I'm not

1361
01:21:21,920 --> 01:21:25,160
Speaker 1: Tori spelling like blessed, like I love but like also

1362
01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:29,479
Speaker 1: like I wrote this book myself and I think it's

1363
01:21:29,560 --> 01:21:32,280
Speaker 1: really good and I like it. And I told a

1364
01:21:32,320 --> 01:21:36,920
Speaker 1: lot of deeply personal stories that were like very meaningful

1365
01:21:37,080 --> 01:21:41,160
Speaker 1: and also revealed a lot of actual tal like actual

1366
01:21:41,320 --> 01:21:44,200
Speaker 1: fucking trauma in my life and like for it to

1367
01:21:44,280 --> 01:21:47,520
Speaker 1: be to reduce to like she was raped at fifteen,

1368
01:21:47,680 --> 01:21:50,280
Speaker 1: she had an abortion, or at fourteen, she had abortion

1369
01:21:50,360 --> 01:21:53,880
Speaker 1: at fifteen, I was like, fuck you guys, Like that's

1370
01:21:53,920 --> 01:21:55,880
Speaker 1: all I am to you, Like, that's all I am

1371
01:21:56,040 --> 01:21:57,960
Speaker 1: is just like a lady that you can put a

1372
01:21:58,080 --> 01:22:02,479
Speaker 1: fucking sidebar on where you like list the most traumatic

1373
01:22:02,640 --> 01:22:04,920
Speaker 1: things that have happened to me in my life in

1374
01:22:05,080 --> 01:22:11,599
Speaker 1: like chronological order, like like in like a drop shadow exactly,

1375
01:22:12,520 --> 01:22:15,360
Speaker 1: you know what a drop shadow font was like honestly

1376
01:22:15,560 --> 01:22:21,120
Speaker 1: the worst part um wait speaking the celebrity gossip. And

1377
01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:24,639
Speaker 1: I don't mean to, I don't mean to like veer

1378
01:22:24,720 --> 01:22:26,720
Speaker 1: into this territory, but I am curious to hear your

1379
01:22:26,760 --> 01:22:29,519
Speaker 1: thoughts as someone who like has a knowledge around like

1380
01:22:30,120 --> 01:22:34,000
Speaker 1: entertainment media. But like now like now that now this

1381
01:22:34,240 --> 01:22:38,160
Speaker 1: market is fully in like dim wash stranglehold where like

1382
01:22:38,479 --> 01:22:42,000
Speaker 1: anyone can just make up anything about anyone's lives and

1383
01:22:42,120 --> 01:22:44,599
Speaker 1: like you're on it like enough times where people are

1384
01:22:44,680 --> 01:22:46,880
Speaker 1: like she's not with her a kid. It's like it's

1385
01:22:47,000 --> 01:22:48,639
Speaker 1: or whatever, it's I'm just making this up. But it's

1386
01:22:48,680 --> 01:22:50,880
Speaker 1: like but and then like for me, like the lighter

1387
01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:53,960
Speaker 1: version is like um always being tagged and things that

1388
01:22:54,000 --> 01:22:56,519
Speaker 1: are like Sabo and Young walking in like Madison Square

1389
01:22:56,560 --> 01:22:59,200
Speaker 1: Park and I'm like that wasn't me, honey, Like it's

1390
01:22:59,280 --> 01:23:01,960
Speaker 1: just like now this is like dangerously like very like

1391
01:23:02,560 --> 01:23:04,920
Speaker 1: running off a cliff where it's like, oh, like it's

1392
01:23:04,960 --> 01:23:09,479
Speaker 1: a crowdsourced lie is what I'm sor this is becoming

1393
01:23:09,680 --> 01:23:15,560
Speaker 1: I don't always like I mean, Gawker guys, Hawker, you

1394
01:23:15,640 --> 01:23:22,479
Speaker 1: guys were you guys were tweens. But back, okay, well

1395
01:23:22,600 --> 01:23:27,560
Speaker 1: let me tell you a story strap in um but

1396
01:23:28,320 --> 01:23:30,800
Speaker 1: years and years ago, there was a gawker stalker about

1397
01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:33,680
Speaker 1: me that said that I was like making out with

1398
01:23:33,720 --> 01:23:36,960
Speaker 1: a guy in a bar in Brooklyn. And here's the truth.

1399
01:23:37,600 --> 01:23:40,360
Speaker 1: I had just gotten married to Mark. I was in

1400
01:23:40,520 --> 01:23:43,760
Speaker 1: that bar in Brooklyn with Michelle. I wasn't making out

1401
01:23:43,800 --> 01:23:48,120
Speaker 1: with a guy at all. No, he wasn't there, he

1402
01:23:48,280 --> 01:23:51,360
Speaker 1: was in l A. But like, but it caused like

1403
01:23:51,680 --> 01:23:56,200
Speaker 1: a great amount of like personal fucking drama and stress

1404
01:23:56,280 --> 01:23:58,680
Speaker 1: in my life. And like of course also it was

1405
01:23:58,760 --> 01:24:01,600
Speaker 1: just sucking insane, Like I was in that bar, I

1406
01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:05,120
Speaker 1: was with Michelle. I wasn't making out with this fucking

1407
01:24:05,240 --> 01:24:11,720
Speaker 1: girls friend, Like what what the fuck it was? This was?

1408
01:24:12,120 --> 01:24:15,919
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, this is fifteen fift like fourteen

1409
01:24:16,040 --> 01:24:19,360
Speaker 1: fucking years ago. Right. The point is that, like anyone's

1410
01:24:19,439 --> 01:24:24,479
Speaker 1: truth can become the truth in the Internet, and it

1411
01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:28,439
Speaker 1: is truly fucked. And part of the reason why I

1412
01:24:29,439 --> 01:24:35,719
Speaker 1: like loved social media in its beginning nascent stage, yeah,

1413
01:24:35,920 --> 01:24:38,600
Speaker 1: when it was exciting still and promising, was that it

1414
01:24:38,800 --> 01:24:41,840
Speaker 1: was like offered me an opportunity to have my own

1415
01:24:42,720 --> 01:24:47,320
Speaker 1: on my own home, and like I didn't feel that

1416
01:24:47,479 --> 01:24:51,960
Speaker 1: I was, um, you know, sort of like jailed by

1417
01:24:52,840 --> 01:24:56,160
Speaker 1: some sucking gawker stalker bit. She was like she was

1418
01:24:56,200 --> 01:24:58,800
Speaker 1: at this bar making out with this dude, when I

1419
01:24:58,880 --> 01:25:01,640
Speaker 1: was like, I was really at that bar. It was

1420
01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:07,080
Speaker 1: not making out what that fucking dude bitch. No, I

1421
01:25:07,200 --> 01:25:09,360
Speaker 1: don't because at the time, I really say it was

1422
01:25:09,479 --> 01:25:13,040
Speaker 1: drop off service. It was near the old mccaren pool,

1423
01:25:13,479 --> 01:25:17,160
Speaker 1: like it was in Brooklyn, because that's what Michelle's vibe.

1424
01:25:17,520 --> 01:25:20,360
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm in the city, Matt, don't. Let's not

1425
01:25:20,640 --> 01:25:27,760
Speaker 1: fucking funk around. I get it, you know, I trust

1426
01:25:27,800 --> 01:25:31,760
Speaker 1: me drop off services. Okay, so I was giving you

1427
01:25:31,880 --> 01:25:35,720
Speaker 1: more credit. But anyway, like I just you know, it

1428
01:25:35,960 --> 01:25:41,120
Speaker 1: is really difficult. It's difficult that like people can sort

1429
01:25:41,160 --> 01:25:42,920
Speaker 1: of come up with a thing about you, and like

1430
01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:45,920
Speaker 1: they were saying that you and Mark were like divorced

1431
01:25:47,640 --> 01:25:50,040
Speaker 1: right now, just fucking crate no, no, no, like months ago,

1432
01:25:50,080 --> 01:25:51,720
Speaker 1: and I wanted to be like I wanted to like

1433
01:25:51,920 --> 01:25:53,400
Speaker 1: d n them direct to be like this is so,

1434
01:25:53,800 --> 01:25:56,360
Speaker 1: and then they debunked it quickly later with like someone

1435
01:25:56,439 --> 01:25:59,240
Speaker 1: else's submission. They were like, oh, she's definitely still married.

1436
01:26:00,160 --> 01:26:04,599
Speaker 1: Everyone like everyone like fallback, but it's like it's also

1437
01:26:04,720 --> 01:26:08,360
Speaker 1: like wild, like like randomly somebody on Instagram the other

1438
01:26:08,439 --> 01:26:11,800
Speaker 1: day I was like, are you still with Mark? Like

1439
01:26:11,920 --> 01:26:15,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, first of all, bitch, Like when am I

1440
01:26:15,080 --> 01:26:19,840
Speaker 1: answering this on your comments on my comments of my

1441
01:26:20,080 --> 01:26:22,960
Speaker 1: post of my kids? Like what are you talking about?

1442
01:26:23,080 --> 01:26:27,439
Speaker 1: What is happening? What is happening? Like it's a certain

1443
01:26:27,439 --> 01:26:29,960
Speaker 1: amount of like ship that we sign up for and

1444
01:26:30,040 --> 01:26:32,240
Speaker 1: then ship that we're just like, I don't think we

1445
01:26:32,280 --> 01:26:34,040
Speaker 1: signed up for this. I don't think any of us

1446
01:26:34,040 --> 01:26:37,519
Speaker 1: signed up for this because for dim Watt, for Jim

1447
01:26:37,560 --> 01:26:40,320
Speaker 1: Watt to have in their bio, none of what we

1448
01:26:40,479 --> 01:26:47,639
Speaker 1: say is actually factual, is like fucking stupid you Okay,

1449
01:26:47,720 --> 01:26:54,080
Speaker 1: it's an Instagram page and honestly, basically a lot of

1450
01:26:54,160 --> 01:26:56,479
Speaker 1: it is just like I saw so and so, like

1451
01:26:57,160 --> 01:26:59,120
Speaker 1: they saw me walking with a nice coffee on Franklin

1452
01:26:59,160 --> 01:27:01,200
Speaker 1: app and I can con firm it was me, Like

1453
01:27:01,760 --> 01:27:04,320
Speaker 1: what's the other one? That's like the other one? It's

1454
01:27:04,360 --> 01:27:07,240
Speaker 1: like a what's the other one that I have to be?

1455
01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:12,240
Speaker 1: Is it private? Is dim want private? They're all fucking private,

1456
01:27:12,360 --> 01:27:15,000
Speaker 1: but like fuck them for being private. That's the other thing,

1457
01:27:15,160 --> 01:27:19,040
Speaker 1: Like in public, if you have any balls, you motherfucker's know.

1458
01:27:19,200 --> 01:27:23,080
Speaker 1: Like there's another one that's like it's like chow Bella

1459
01:27:23,160 --> 01:27:25,559
Speaker 1: or wherever the funk it is, and it's and it's

1460
01:27:25,600 --> 01:27:29,240
Speaker 1: like it's like still like like Busy Phillips was that? Yeah,

1461
01:27:29,360 --> 01:27:32,960
Speaker 1: like all time picking up to go on on you

1462
01:27:33,080 --> 01:27:40,840
Speaker 1: know Vermont or what is a hill Hurst? I go

1463
01:27:41,040 --> 01:27:45,479
Speaker 1: all I heard Maru is a real scene. Now there's

1464
01:27:45,600 --> 01:27:48,840
Speaker 1: lines out the door for that coffee. Well during during

1465
01:27:48,880 --> 01:27:51,960
Speaker 1: reservation eraic COVID, it's like, you know, it's hard to

1466
01:27:52,040 --> 01:27:57,599
Speaker 1: get in anywhere, I guess. So before Okay, two thoughts.

1467
01:27:58,000 --> 01:28:03,880
Speaker 1: Number one, Torozzo, that's my first thought. Number two as

1468
01:28:03,920 --> 01:28:09,120
Speaker 1: heraza was everything I'm I'm happy to know. Number two,

1469
01:28:09,680 --> 01:28:14,160
Speaker 1: here's my other thought, Like it is fascinating to me,

1470
01:28:15,520 --> 01:28:20,800
Speaker 1: like people's fascination with blinds. Mm, well I get it,

1471
01:28:21,320 --> 01:28:23,240
Speaker 1: and does opper time We all don't get it. It's

1472
01:28:23,280 --> 01:28:25,120
Speaker 1: a fill in the blank and like and so like

1473
01:28:25,320 --> 01:28:28,000
Speaker 1: the brain is like the brain's favorite thing to do

1474
01:28:28,240 --> 01:28:30,559
Speaker 1: is like try to fill in missing information and then

1475
01:28:30,640 --> 01:28:34,000
Speaker 1: the conjecture and then assume things and that's what blind

1476
01:28:34,040 --> 01:28:38,200
Speaker 1: items do like. And it's so I'm sort of fascinated

1477
01:28:38,360 --> 01:28:42,040
Speaker 1: by the veneer cracking because I feel and I'm just

1478
01:28:42,080 --> 01:28:44,240
Speaker 1: gonna trace it back to growing up like a gay kid.

1479
01:28:45,360 --> 01:28:47,640
Speaker 1: I always wanted to be in the entertainment industry, and

1480
01:28:47,720 --> 01:28:49,680
Speaker 1: I always felt like what was prohibiting me from being

1481
01:28:49,720 --> 01:28:51,920
Speaker 1: in the entertainment industry are being a quote unquote star

1482
01:28:52,120 --> 01:28:53,840
Speaker 1: or being able to do what I knew I loved

1483
01:28:54,120 --> 01:28:55,800
Speaker 1: was the fact that I was gay. I thought that

1484
01:28:55,880 --> 01:28:58,479
Speaker 1: was unfair. So I always thought to myself, I know

1485
01:28:58,720 --> 01:29:00,880
Speaker 1: that I know that a lot of these guys are gay.

1486
01:29:01,200 --> 01:29:03,200
Speaker 1: I know that a lot of these people have certain

1487
01:29:03,280 --> 01:29:05,800
Speaker 1: things that are different about them, but no one is

1488
01:29:06,080 --> 01:29:09,240
Speaker 1: no one is reflecting that back to me, someone who

1489
01:29:09,280 --> 01:29:11,880
Speaker 1: looks up to them. Because I was also I read

1490
01:29:11,880 --> 01:29:14,000
Speaker 1: all the magazines too, and like I watched you know,

1491
01:29:14,200 --> 01:29:16,720
Speaker 1: Access Hollywood Entertainment tonight, like I wanted to be part

1492
01:29:16,760 --> 01:29:18,720
Speaker 1: of that world, and I felt like it was all

1493
01:29:18,800 --> 01:29:24,680
Speaker 1: these like very straight, white, attractive people, and I was like,

1494
01:29:24,760 --> 01:29:26,439
Speaker 1: I understand that this is like a world. This is

1495
01:29:26,479 --> 01:29:29,280
Speaker 1: like a world where all these things are true. And

1496
01:29:29,360 --> 01:29:30,960
Speaker 1: then as I got a little bit older, I was like,

1497
01:29:31,360 --> 01:29:34,360
Speaker 1: what the funk like and and so. I think that

1498
01:29:34,600 --> 01:29:37,519
Speaker 1: what fascinates me about the blind item culture of it all.

1499
01:29:37,600 --> 01:29:40,040
Speaker 1: And I get that it's cruel and speculative and weird,

1500
01:29:40,640 --> 01:29:43,400
Speaker 1: but I kind of am a little obsessed sometimes with

1501
01:29:43,560 --> 01:29:46,639
Speaker 1: the Bernard all down of it all. Like I love

1502
01:29:46,720 --> 01:29:48,519
Speaker 1: in the last five years, it kind of becomes like,

1503
01:29:48,800 --> 01:29:50,519
Speaker 1: you know, you know what, people are all out here

1504
01:29:50,560 --> 01:29:53,560
Speaker 1: saying their truth. People are out there saying their experiences,

1505
01:29:53,840 --> 01:29:56,200
Speaker 1: owning up to what makes them different, owning up to

1506
01:29:56,280 --> 01:29:58,320
Speaker 1: things they've done that we're wrong, saying things that have

1507
01:29:58,400 --> 01:30:01,519
Speaker 1: happened to them, because I actually think reflects back to

1508
01:30:02,280 --> 01:30:05,719
Speaker 1: people that look up to them a more realistic world.

1509
01:30:06,240 --> 01:30:09,360
Speaker 1: Not saying a defensive blind item culture. But when I

1510
01:30:09,479 --> 01:30:11,600
Speaker 1: see a blind item that is like so and so

1511
01:30:11,800 --> 01:30:14,240
Speaker 1: a list actor is actually gay and been with his

1512
01:30:14,360 --> 01:30:17,000
Speaker 1: partner for three years, part of me is like, well,

1513
01:30:17,080 --> 01:30:19,120
Speaker 1: who is it? Because I would like to know who

1514
01:30:19,200 --> 01:30:24,720
Speaker 1: it is? Because I not to be like not to

1515
01:30:24,840 --> 01:30:29,120
Speaker 1: make this connection. But representation does matter, and there's there

1516
01:30:29,280 --> 01:30:32,560
Speaker 1: was none, there was none. But I'm confused. Are you

1517
01:30:32,600 --> 01:30:36,000
Speaker 1: saying that it is encouraging to you when you're like, oh,

1518
01:30:36,240 --> 01:30:40,479
Speaker 1: some I'm not. I'm not calling it encouraging. I'm saying,

1519
01:30:40,560 --> 01:30:43,639
Speaker 1: it's it's it's recognizing the fact that these people are

1520
01:30:43,720 --> 01:30:47,479
Speaker 1: not just this like unattainable thing. Like there's a lot

1521
01:30:47,600 --> 01:30:50,600
Speaker 1: of and I'll just use sexuality as an example of this.

1522
01:30:51,439 --> 01:30:53,000
Speaker 1: There's a lot of people out there that are have

1523
01:30:53,080 --> 01:30:55,479
Speaker 1: a lot more in common with the general population than

1524
01:30:55,560 --> 01:30:58,040
Speaker 1: I think Hollywood would have everyone realized. So that's what

1525
01:30:58,200 --> 01:31:02,040
Speaker 1: I think the blind item culture attracts in people. I

1526
01:31:02,080 --> 01:31:04,880
Speaker 1: think it just makes them say, oh, people have skeletons

1527
01:31:04,880 --> 01:31:06,720
Speaker 1: in my closet like I do. They're not just this

1528
01:31:07,160 --> 01:31:10,760
Speaker 1: perfected ideal. That's what I'm saying. All of the like

1529
01:31:11,600 --> 01:31:16,479
Speaker 1: social media ship and like I hate uh, I hate

1530
01:31:16,520 --> 01:31:21,080
Speaker 1: like a performative realness like or like a performative vulnerability,

1531
01:31:21,439 --> 01:31:24,840
Speaker 1: right like that like bums me the funk out. Um.

1532
01:31:25,600 --> 01:31:28,200
Speaker 1: But I do think and I do think that the

1533
01:31:28,280 --> 01:31:31,479
Speaker 1: more we can like be honest and open and like,

1534
01:31:31,640 --> 01:31:35,759
Speaker 1: if you're in the public sphere, you can like share

1535
01:31:36,360 --> 01:31:41,920
Speaker 1: your experience and blah blah blah blah. Now having had

1536
01:31:41,960 --> 01:31:45,599
Speaker 1: the experience that I've had in the last only several

1537
01:31:45,720 --> 01:31:50,040
Speaker 1: months since my kid and I talked about their desires,

1538
01:31:50,080 --> 01:31:55,080
Speaker 1: like their desire for me to like share their sexuality

1539
01:31:55,240 --> 01:31:59,280
Speaker 1: and gender on like my podcast, on my platform with

1540
01:31:59,360 --> 01:32:02,600
Speaker 1: people who are like my fans. But then it's going

1541
01:32:02,640 --> 01:32:05,000
Speaker 1: to get extrapolated, and it's going to be put into

1542
01:32:05,040 --> 01:32:08,400
Speaker 1: the ether of like the fucking fucking world and spawn

1543
01:32:08,520 --> 01:32:13,560
Speaker 1: out there, Like, Matt, can I just tell you that

1544
01:32:14,280 --> 01:32:17,160
Speaker 1: I am a forty one I'm going to be forty

1545
01:32:17,200 --> 01:32:22,519
Speaker 1: two in two weeks, woman who has like fucking been

1546
01:32:22,600 --> 01:32:28,000
Speaker 1: through it, seeing it, learned it, accepted the privilege, learned

1547
01:32:28,040 --> 01:32:34,280
Speaker 1: it again, fucking here for it, like got it, feel

1548
01:32:34,360 --> 01:32:41,760
Speaker 1: great alright, best body early anyway, and like and when

1549
01:32:41,880 --> 01:32:47,560
Speaker 1: I tell you that some of the messages that I

1550
01:32:47,720 --> 01:32:53,759
Speaker 1: get on a daily basis make me want to fucking

1551
01:32:54,960 --> 01:33:00,840
Speaker 1: curl into a shell and die, like a about my child,

1552
01:33:01,080 --> 01:33:06,080
Speaker 1: about me like about that, I'm like, oh, that's why,

1553
01:33:07,080 --> 01:33:12,240
Speaker 1: that's why, that's why you want to keep the fence

1554
01:33:12,880 --> 01:33:15,880
Speaker 1: as high as it can go and as strong as

1555
01:33:15,920 --> 01:33:18,800
Speaker 1: it can be, and why the blinds can be so

1556
01:33:19,479 --> 01:33:21,320
Speaker 1: no matter what they are, no matter what they are.

1557
01:33:21,400 --> 01:33:23,680
Speaker 1: And I'm not just talking about like this is my

1558
01:33:23,840 --> 01:33:29,599
Speaker 1: fucking experience because of you know, my fucking experience whatever

1559
01:33:29,720 --> 01:33:33,240
Speaker 1: they are, Like you just that feeling of being attacked

1560
01:33:33,360 --> 01:33:36,120
Speaker 1: for just existing in the way you want to exist

1561
01:33:37,560 --> 01:33:42,160
Speaker 1: is hard. Yeah, I think it's just painful what what

1562
01:33:42,400 --> 01:33:45,240
Speaker 1: the interest is and not whether or not it should be.

1563
01:33:45,400 --> 01:33:47,720
Speaker 1: But I guess I think there's a separation between like,

1564
01:33:48,000 --> 01:33:53,360
Speaker 1: but the interest is starting to creep into into harm.

1565
01:33:53,680 --> 01:33:58,960
Speaker 1: It's also been the last five plus years of like

1566
01:34:00,080 --> 01:34:06,200
Speaker 1: our cultural shift in like, you know, having these people

1567
01:34:06,240 --> 01:34:09,559
Speaker 1: who have been empowered to think that like the way

1568
01:34:09,680 --> 01:34:12,400
Speaker 1: to get any point across is to be as loud

1569
01:34:12,600 --> 01:34:16,800
Speaker 1: and hateful and vengeful as possible and that they are

1570
01:34:16,880 --> 01:34:21,560
Speaker 1: like empowered by like a higher power even which is

1571
01:34:22,640 --> 01:34:25,840
Speaker 1: also we know, I mean for sure, well but whatever

1572
01:34:25,920 --> 01:34:32,400
Speaker 1: they believe. But it's fucking bonkers, right, And so I

1573
01:34:32,479 --> 01:34:35,280
Speaker 1: don't know, like it's it's really tricky for me because

1574
01:34:35,320 --> 01:34:38,880
Speaker 1: it doesn't seem like it's like harmless like or not

1575
01:34:39,040 --> 01:34:43,120
Speaker 1: even harmless like, or it's like relatable, like I want

1576
01:34:43,160 --> 01:34:45,920
Speaker 1: to know, like I want people to like be empowered

1577
01:34:45,960 --> 01:34:51,519
Speaker 1: to like be and live and like whatever, because yeah,

1578
01:34:53,640 --> 01:34:57,599
Speaker 1: because they're such fucking hatred and there's and there are

1579
01:34:57,720 --> 01:35:01,480
Speaker 1: such awful fucking people who use it as an opportunity.

1580
01:35:02,520 --> 01:35:05,840
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, No, I mean, like I

1581
01:35:07,280 --> 01:35:11,560
Speaker 1: I hate that I'm getting uh, cloying about my sexuality

1582
01:35:11,640 --> 01:35:13,960
Speaker 1: on you know, Pride mounth or whatever. But I'm like,

1583
01:35:14,560 --> 01:35:18,360
Speaker 1: I am constantly thinking about especially lately. I'm like, oh,

1584
01:35:18,439 --> 01:35:22,080
Speaker 1: if people are like so upset and flared up at

1585
01:35:22,120 --> 01:35:24,680
Speaker 1: me showing up on TV and they think I am

1586
01:35:24,800 --> 01:35:28,600
Speaker 1: like the gayest person in the world, I promise I

1587
01:35:28,720 --> 01:35:31,439
Speaker 1: wish I was. I promise them I am not. But

1588
01:35:31,520 --> 01:35:35,000
Speaker 1: if you're like freaked out over me, then like that

1589
01:35:35,240 --> 01:35:39,760
Speaker 1: sucks for everyone else who's like living out some queerness

1590
01:35:39,880 --> 01:35:43,680
Speaker 1: that is like much more pronounced and externalized and like

1591
01:35:44,880 --> 01:35:48,360
Speaker 1: and just is like more let's just say, like obvious

1592
01:35:48,520 --> 01:35:50,439
Speaker 1: than me. And I'm like that bums me. I'm not

1593
01:35:50,560 --> 01:35:53,479
Speaker 1: saying like, oh, like what was me. I'm saying like

1594
01:35:53,600 --> 01:35:56,439
Speaker 1: this just sucks for everyone else. And I'm like, and

1595
01:35:56,560 --> 01:35:59,320
Speaker 1: I hate that I'm saying this about like assist me

1596
01:35:59,439 --> 01:36:01,800
Speaker 1: as a sisk amen, But I'm like, what if if

1597
01:36:01,840 --> 01:36:03,840
Speaker 1: I'm going through this, then like then we've got a

1598
01:36:03,880 --> 01:36:06,439
Speaker 1: long fucking way to go. And I don't think we've

1599
01:36:06,479 --> 01:36:08,040
Speaker 1: come as far as we as we think we have,

1600
01:36:08,280 --> 01:36:12,160
Speaker 1: because I mean, I will just be honest and I

1601
01:36:12,240 --> 01:36:13,680
Speaker 1: don't mean to bring the mood down, but like I

1602
01:36:13,800 --> 01:36:18,600
Speaker 1: have like absolutely like boarded into like suicidal thoughts. I like,

1603
01:36:18,680 --> 01:36:20,880
Speaker 1: I like, I like, I've run up to the line.

1604
01:36:21,280 --> 01:36:23,880
Speaker 1: The toe is like crossed into the others and to

1605
01:36:23,960 --> 01:36:26,040
Speaker 1: the other side, and like I don't want to deal

1606
01:36:26,080 --> 01:36:27,840
Speaker 1: with this. I don't want to deal with this. This

1607
01:36:28,040 --> 01:36:30,439
Speaker 1: is not worth it. This is not worth it it.

1608
01:36:33,880 --> 01:36:37,840
Speaker 1: I mean, I yes, and I like and I think,

1609
01:36:37,880 --> 01:36:40,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I think about this fucking month and I'm

1610
01:36:40,160 --> 01:36:42,760
Speaker 1: like I was talking to Bird about it, and I

1611
01:36:42,880 --> 01:36:45,559
Speaker 1: was like, do you wanna do the parade this month?

1612
01:36:45,680 --> 01:36:48,360
Speaker 1: Do you want to like go? And like this is

1613
01:36:48,439 --> 01:36:52,000
Speaker 1: the first time we drove past it last year and

1614
01:36:53,960 --> 01:36:56,519
Speaker 1: fucking lived, you know. I mean it was like still

1615
01:36:56,640 --> 01:37:01,599
Speaker 1: COVID lockdown. And also Bernie Haye crowds and hates being hot.

1616
01:37:01,800 --> 01:37:06,120
Speaker 1: These are two things that are just inaliable, I know.

1617
01:37:06,240 --> 01:37:08,960
Speaker 1: And I was like, baby, that's what it is. And

1618
01:37:09,080 --> 01:37:12,000
Speaker 1: Bertie was like, it's not for me, and I was

1619
01:37:13,200 --> 01:37:18,200
Speaker 1: probably not um but they were like maybe. But let

1620
01:37:18,240 --> 01:37:21,760
Speaker 1: me just say to you that I came home from

1621
01:37:21,840 --> 01:37:27,400
Speaker 1: work shooting girls five ever, like the night of the insurrection,

1622
01:37:28,600 --> 01:37:31,800
Speaker 1: and I had been working all day and at my

1623
01:37:31,960 --> 01:37:34,560
Speaker 1: lunch ower, one of the pas and I sat in

1624
01:37:34,960 --> 01:37:36,720
Speaker 1: a room in the house that we were shooting in

1625
01:37:36,920 --> 01:37:42,120
Speaker 1: and watched the fucking television, cried, and it was a

1626
01:37:42,240 --> 01:37:45,200
Speaker 1: hard fucking day. And I came home and I went

1627
01:37:45,280 --> 01:37:48,800
Speaker 1: up to my twelve year old child's room and my

1628
01:37:48,960 --> 01:37:52,280
Speaker 1: kids said, did you see what happened today? And I

1629
01:37:52,360 --> 01:37:55,120
Speaker 1: was like, oh, yeah, baby, I saw that is it

1630
01:37:55,360 --> 01:37:59,080
Speaker 1: is truly fucked. It is so wild. And you know,

1631
01:37:59,439 --> 01:38:01,400
Speaker 1: we are doing all the things that we can do,

1632
01:38:01,560 --> 01:38:04,960
Speaker 1: your dad and me and like other people that we know,

1633
01:38:05,240 --> 01:38:07,120
Speaker 1: and like, we're doing all the ship we can do

1634
01:38:07,479 --> 01:38:12,280
Speaker 1: to help prevent more ship like that in the future.

1635
01:38:12,400 --> 01:38:14,920
Speaker 1: And these people and whatever. And Bertie looked at me

1636
01:38:14,960 --> 01:38:20,040
Speaker 1: and said, they want me dead. They want me dead, mom,

1637
01:38:21,479 --> 01:38:27,680
Speaker 1: they want me dead. And what the fuck are you

1638
01:38:27,840 --> 01:38:31,800
Speaker 1: supposed to say to that, because the answer is you're right,

1639
01:38:32,479 --> 01:38:38,680
Speaker 1: they do. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that's a fucking and

1640
01:38:38,720 --> 01:38:40,320
Speaker 1: this is what this is why I'm sorry to make

1641
01:38:40,560 --> 01:38:42,479
Speaker 1: to bring this back to this point, but I'm like,

1642
01:38:42,960 --> 01:38:50,519
Speaker 1: this is why I could never It's hard. It's hard,

1643
01:38:50,600 --> 01:38:52,920
Speaker 1: and Bowen, I want to say to you in that moment,

1644
01:38:53,400 --> 01:38:57,400
Speaker 1: exhausted from working a twelve hour fucking day, exhausted from

1645
01:38:57,479 --> 01:39:02,120
Speaker 1: the state of the fucking union, exhausted from fighting my

1646
01:39:02,320 --> 01:39:06,960
Speaker 1: own fight for like fucking women's rights, which Bertie and

1647
01:39:07,040 --> 01:39:09,320
Speaker 1: I've talked about yesterday, and I need to say, are

1648
01:39:10,080 --> 01:39:13,880
Speaker 1: people's rights because lots of people need healthcare who have

1649
01:39:14,080 --> 01:39:18,040
Speaker 1: uterus is who aren't women. That is a fucking fact, Bertie,

1650
01:39:18,400 --> 01:39:23,720
Speaker 1: Thank you for that conversation. But like I was exhausted.

1651
01:39:23,960 --> 01:39:26,360
Speaker 1: And when Bertie said that to me on that night

1652
01:39:26,560 --> 01:39:30,200
Speaker 1: fucking January whatever, six, what was it, I don't know.

1653
01:39:30,280 --> 01:39:34,080
Speaker 1: It wasn't the six that was Oh, it was okay,

1654
01:39:34,320 --> 01:39:37,920
Speaker 1: there you go. When they said that to me, I

1655
01:39:38,120 --> 01:39:42,840
Speaker 1: was like, you're right, they do. They do, but you

1656
01:39:42,920 --> 01:39:45,040
Speaker 1: know what, we're not going to let them, like, we're

1657
01:39:45,040 --> 01:39:46,560
Speaker 1: not going to let them, and I'm not going to

1658
01:39:46,720 --> 01:39:49,320
Speaker 1: let them. No one's gonna fucking let them. You're right,

1659
01:39:50,040 --> 01:39:54,600
Speaker 1: but that's not I know, I know, I know. But

1660
01:39:54,640 --> 01:39:56,439
Speaker 1: they're old enough to know that if you had said

1661
01:39:56,600 --> 01:39:58,519
Speaker 1: that's not true, then they would have known that you

1662
01:39:58,560 --> 01:40:02,040
Speaker 1: were lying, yeah, and condescending to them, yeah, and patronizing

1663
01:40:02,120 --> 01:40:03,880
Speaker 1: and so so I think you said exactly what you

1664
01:40:04,960 --> 01:40:07,600
Speaker 1: had to quote unquotes say. I don't know, well, you

1665
01:40:07,720 --> 01:40:09,880
Speaker 1: never know, You're never gonna know, but I can tell

1666
01:40:09,880 --> 01:40:13,200
Speaker 1: you're a great fucking mom, and I'm fine, I'm fine,

1667
01:40:13,280 --> 01:40:16,439
Speaker 1: but all the time, and I'm like my own person.

1668
01:40:17,000 --> 01:40:19,200
Speaker 1: That's the thing too, Like you're like my dad was

1669
01:40:19,320 --> 01:40:21,280
Speaker 1: never wrong, and he was like well, and then I

1670
01:40:21,479 --> 01:40:24,720
Speaker 1: learned he was a person. I'm constantly like I am.

1671
01:40:25,080 --> 01:40:28,240
Speaker 1: You're right. You know, I allowed probably too much runway

1672
01:40:28,360 --> 01:40:30,320
Speaker 1: for them to be like both of my kids to

1673
01:40:30,400 --> 01:40:33,120
Speaker 1: be like you fucking suck, You're the worst because I'm like,

1674
01:40:33,160 --> 01:40:36,360
Speaker 1: I am a person, I'm doing I And then I

1675
01:40:36,439 --> 01:40:38,679
Speaker 1: also now I hate saying I'm doing my best because

1676
01:40:38,720 --> 01:40:40,800
Speaker 1: that's the name of my podcast, and so it does

1677
01:40:40,880 --> 01:40:43,280
Speaker 1: feel like a little bit cheesy to me when I

1678
01:40:43,360 --> 01:40:45,320
Speaker 1: say that, because I mean, we can't say I don't

1679
01:40:45,360 --> 01:40:51,320
Speaker 1: think honey anymore. That's why why don't I take that

1680
01:40:51,439 --> 01:40:56,519
Speaker 1: and you guys can take yeaheah, I'm doing but I

1681
01:40:56,600 --> 01:40:58,479
Speaker 1: was saying the medium idea. But yes, people take on

1682
01:40:58,600 --> 01:41:01,960
Speaker 1: doing that. I was the bone is like I'm on

1683
01:41:02,120 --> 01:41:09,840
Speaker 1: the phone with the medium already. Yeah. The good news

1684
01:41:09,960 --> 01:41:13,320
Speaker 1: is it's not over because we have to transition to

1685
01:41:13,600 --> 01:41:18,480
Speaker 1: our speaking of segments. I don't think so, honey. So basically,

1686
01:41:18,880 --> 01:41:20,800
Speaker 1: you know, this is the one minute segment where we

1687
01:41:20,880 --> 01:41:23,280
Speaker 1: take the time to sort of rail against something in

1688
01:41:23,360 --> 01:41:26,320
Speaker 1: pop culture, culture, etcetera at all that is sort of

1689
01:41:26,640 --> 01:41:29,200
Speaker 1: getting to us so much so that we have to

1690
01:41:29,320 --> 01:41:32,240
Speaker 1: just spend a minute sort of ranting about it. Um,

1691
01:41:32,720 --> 01:41:34,720
Speaker 1: I do have one, and traditionally I do go first

1692
01:41:34,800 --> 01:41:40,880
Speaker 1: bow should I yeah? Yes, yes, yes, I want Can

1693
01:41:40,920 --> 01:41:42,640
Speaker 1: I say you have to come back? Because I have

1694
01:41:42,760 --> 01:41:45,080
Speaker 1: some more questions for first of all, like it's a

1695
01:41:45,160 --> 01:41:47,760
Speaker 1: joy talking to you, but I questions like when I

1696
01:41:47,760 --> 01:41:49,800
Speaker 1: found out your like you have a story credit on

1697
01:41:49,880 --> 01:41:51,840
Speaker 1: Blades of Gloria, I need to know about that, like

1698
01:41:52,240 --> 01:41:55,680
Speaker 1: you Yeah, but I want you to come back to

1699
01:41:55,840 --> 01:41:59,320
Speaker 1: so folks, how about that? All right? So I do

1700
01:41:59,439 --> 01:42:01,960
Speaker 1: have one. Okay, this is this is Matt Rodgers. I

1701
01:42:02,000 --> 01:42:04,080
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. As time starts now, I don't

1702
01:42:04,120 --> 01:42:07,080
Speaker 1: think so honey. The concept of a freak number, so

1703
01:42:07,240 --> 01:42:09,920
Speaker 1: basically some people will ask each other what's your freak number?

1704
01:42:09,960 --> 01:42:12,000
Speaker 1: And now what they're saying is like in terms of

1705
01:42:12,080 --> 01:42:13,880
Speaker 1: a freak number, like how much or a freak are

1706
01:42:13,960 --> 01:42:16,160
Speaker 1: you one through ten? In bed? This is the question

1707
01:42:16,240 --> 01:42:18,240
Speaker 1: that one Andy Cohen asked all the time. And I

1708
01:42:18,360 --> 01:42:21,000
Speaker 1: was watching Watch What Happens Live last night when he

1709
01:42:21,120 --> 01:42:25,920
Speaker 1: had Uzo Aduba and the fucking hot John Benjamin Hickey

1710
01:42:26,080 --> 01:42:31,320
Speaker 1: on his show Break My Arm. So basically he asked

1711
01:42:31,400 --> 01:42:34,800
Speaker 1: John Benjamin Hicky, what's your freak number? And he said

1712
01:42:35,120 --> 01:42:38,160
Speaker 1: about a six, and he said, no, you're a ten. Now.

1713
01:42:38,240 --> 01:42:40,120
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey, saying your freak number is

1714
01:42:40,120 --> 01:42:41,760
Speaker 1: a ten, because if I'm in a one through ten

1715
01:42:41,800 --> 01:42:45,000
Speaker 1: and ten is the max, ten means like some fifty

1716
01:42:45,080 --> 01:42:47,360
Speaker 1: shades of gray stuff or like some you know, like

1717
01:42:47,680 --> 01:42:50,120
Speaker 1: blood stuff. Ten if it's you're going as far as

1718
01:42:50,160 --> 01:42:51,840
Speaker 1: you can go, and then you say you're a ten,

1719
01:42:51,920 --> 01:42:54,200
Speaker 1: that means you're into some stuff. So I don't know.

1720
01:42:54,280 --> 01:42:56,200
Speaker 1: I feel like everyone's rubric is different, Like if you're

1721
01:42:56,200 --> 01:42:58,000
Speaker 1: gonna say ten, then be willing to back that up.

1722
01:42:58,040 --> 01:42:59,920
Speaker 1: And I know you can't say. I guess I'm beat

1723
01:43:00,120 --> 01:43:02,200
Speaker 1: seven seven point five, maybe eight if you catch me

1724
01:43:02,240 --> 01:43:03,800
Speaker 1: on a good day. But I don't think so, honey,

1725
01:43:03,880 --> 01:43:08,240
Speaker 1: this number and that's one minute now. Andy rejected the

1726
01:43:08,320 --> 01:43:11,680
Speaker 1: number six and said and and conferred upon him that

1727
01:43:11,800 --> 01:43:13,519
Speaker 1: he was at ten. That's not so. I guess. He's

1728
01:43:13,560 --> 01:43:17,040
Speaker 1: been friends with with Mr Hickey for some time and

1729
01:43:17,439 --> 01:43:19,320
Speaker 1: he had Uzzo and do but do a sort of

1730
01:43:19,400 --> 01:43:21,160
Speaker 1: thing where he was like, Uzzo, you asked me a

1731
01:43:21,280 --> 01:43:23,800
Speaker 1: question about John, and I'm gonna answer, and if if

1732
01:43:23,840 --> 01:43:25,760
Speaker 1: I get it wrong, John can spray me in the

1733
01:43:25,840 --> 01:43:30,719
Speaker 1: face with water. So Uzzo asked, what is John's freak number?

1734
01:43:31,560 --> 01:43:36,040
Speaker 1: And Andy said ted, and John sprayed him right in

1735
01:43:36,120 --> 01:43:38,040
Speaker 1: the face and said what he said, what why are

1736
01:43:38,080 --> 01:43:40,840
Speaker 1: you doing that? In his Andy Cohne way, And then

1737
01:43:41,000 --> 01:43:44,040
Speaker 1: so John goes, I'm a six, and he was like,

1738
01:43:44,120 --> 01:43:47,320
Speaker 1: You're not a six, You're a tat man. And I

1739
01:43:47,439 --> 01:43:50,000
Speaker 1: was kind of just like, this is interesting because how

1740
01:43:50,040 --> 01:43:52,400
Speaker 1: could he possibly be a ten? Ted is like scary

1741
01:43:52,520 --> 01:43:56,880
Speaker 1: for a freak number. Wow, wow, wow wow. Maybe Andy Cohen,

1742
01:43:57,000 --> 01:44:00,280
Speaker 1: just like himself, has a high freak number and just Jex,

1743
01:44:02,320 --> 01:44:05,080
Speaker 1: this is what I'm gonna say that. It was just

1744
01:44:05,200 --> 01:44:08,920
Speaker 1: like there's a lot of projection happening in that moment. Yeah,

1745
01:44:09,400 --> 01:44:13,320
Speaker 1: I will say, Andy Eno, I think that. I think

1746
01:44:13,360 --> 01:44:15,360
Speaker 1: he was just sitting there and getting all excited and

1747
01:44:15,439 --> 01:44:17,760
Speaker 1: he was looking at John Benjamin Hickey, his friend who's hot,

1748
01:44:17,840 --> 01:44:19,559
Speaker 1: and he said he's a high freak number because let

1749
01:44:19,600 --> 01:44:22,519
Speaker 1: me tell you something, that man, he's so hot and

1750
01:44:22,560 --> 01:44:25,160
Speaker 1: he's such a good actor. Busy are you watching in treatment.

1751
01:44:25,840 --> 01:44:27,720
Speaker 1: I haven't watched it yet. The new one, Now you're

1752
01:44:27,720 --> 01:44:29,400
Speaker 1: gonna love it. You're gonna love it. You're gonna love

1753
01:44:29,439 --> 01:44:33,360
Speaker 1: it anyway. And the freak number thing I've always been hot.

1754
01:44:34,200 --> 01:44:38,479
Speaker 1: He's he's got he's a silver Fox, he's got away

1755
01:44:38,520 --> 01:44:41,040
Speaker 1: and an Emmy and an Emmy in his hand. We

1756
01:44:41,200 --> 01:44:45,839
Speaker 1: love that for them. I don't think come September. Um, alright,

1757
01:44:45,960 --> 01:44:50,559
Speaker 1: so listen, Yang, I turned to you as when Houston

1758
01:44:50,640 --> 01:44:52,960
Speaker 1: once said, for your I don't think so, honey. Are

1759
01:44:52,960 --> 01:44:56,080
Speaker 1: you ready? I'm ready? Okay, Well, this in that case

1760
01:44:56,360 --> 01:44:58,439
Speaker 1: is Boen Yang's. I don't think so, honey. His time

1761
01:44:58,479 --> 01:45:01,600
Speaker 1: starts now. I don't think so, honey. It taking a

1762
01:45:01,800 --> 01:45:06,439
Speaker 1: million weeks for Levitating Featuring the Baby to go number one.

1763
01:45:07,120 --> 01:45:10,919
Speaker 1: It's been eighty four years and it is a perfect

1764
01:45:11,040 --> 01:45:14,600
Speaker 1: pop song. It's not taken this long for it to

1765
01:45:14,760 --> 01:45:18,320
Speaker 1: hit number one, and you number one, and today it

1766
01:45:18,439 --> 01:45:23,160
Speaker 1: went to number onelation. Congratulations to the team. She posted

1767
01:45:23,360 --> 01:45:26,000
Speaker 1: a lovely note today on Maine on Grid, saying, oh

1768
01:45:26,080 --> 01:45:29,160
Speaker 1: my god, we did it. You you had this memory

1769
01:45:29,240 --> 01:45:33,560
Speaker 1: single day that the chart placement of Levitating feature of

1770
01:45:33,640 --> 01:45:37,680
Speaker 1: Featuring the Baby, and I just feel like this is

1771
01:45:38,160 --> 01:45:41,640
Speaker 1: a cruel and unusual punishment to put this girl in

1772
01:45:41,920 --> 01:45:46,880
Speaker 1: music and chart perfect story in limbo for this whole time,

1773
01:45:47,360 --> 01:45:50,759
Speaker 1: and she has to fucking dance and jump through hoops literally.

1774
01:45:51,040 --> 01:45:53,320
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm sure she did a version where she jumped

1775
01:45:53,360 --> 01:45:56,400
Speaker 1: through for her to make sure this song hit number one.

1776
01:45:56,439 --> 01:45:58,320
Speaker 1: And now she can finally rest easy and everyone should

1777
01:45:58,360 --> 01:46:04,520
Speaker 1: stream the news. Ale is got me love again? Goddamn,

1778
01:46:04,960 --> 01:46:12,680
Speaker 1: you got me love again. I mean she's in the

1779
01:46:12,680 --> 01:46:15,719
Speaker 1: pop group Girls five. Happened to hear it, by the way, Wait,

1780
01:46:15,800 --> 01:46:17,920
Speaker 1: can I say that not we didn't talk enough about

1781
01:46:17,920 --> 01:46:19,920
Speaker 1: Girls five ever, but we didn't. It's sort of it's

1782
01:46:19,920 --> 01:46:22,120
Speaker 1: sort of like it sclos without saying that we love

1783
01:46:22,240 --> 01:46:25,200
Speaker 1: and we really do. But the last episode, I was

1784
01:46:25,320 --> 01:46:28,080
Speaker 1: crying at the end of that song. And and then

1785
01:46:28,200 --> 01:46:30,599
Speaker 1: I loved when you guys all went up with Sarah

1786
01:46:31,000 --> 01:46:35,439
Speaker 1: and did it live. It was so fun. Tomorrow which

1787
01:46:35,560 --> 01:46:39,280
Speaker 1: this isn't live but tomorrow, but you guys, tomorrow we're

1788
01:46:39,400 --> 01:46:43,519
Speaker 1: on the Today Show and we do it chatting about

1789
01:46:43,560 --> 01:46:48,120
Speaker 1: the renewal. No we sang no, but you're going on

1790
01:46:48,640 --> 01:46:53,400
Speaker 1: we chat you Tina. Tina is on chatting and then

1791
01:46:53,439 --> 01:46:55,760
Speaker 1: they cut, and then they like cut to us and

1792
01:46:55,920 --> 01:47:01,120
Speaker 1: we sang, um, four stars, four stars, which is a bob,

1793
01:47:02,000 --> 01:47:07,840
Speaker 1: such a good what I think they're all kind of bangers,

1794
01:47:09,880 --> 01:47:13,920
Speaker 1: famous five almost every day, so good and dream girlfriend

1795
01:47:14,240 --> 01:47:17,160
Speaker 1: and Girlfriends is my favorite. And you know, my favorite

1796
01:47:17,240 --> 01:47:21,120
Speaker 1: line is we got the kind of booth control the

1797
01:47:21,280 --> 01:47:38,759
Speaker 1: girls never want to wake up from my favorite dream girlfriend.

1798
01:47:39,920 --> 01:47:42,719
Speaker 1: It's so fu good. My favorite lyric from Dream Girlfriends

1799
01:47:42,800 --> 01:47:45,680
Speaker 1: is um because we're the kind of girls who wear

1800
01:47:45,880 --> 01:47:50,280
Speaker 1: cowboy hats to a bar. I mean, by the way,

1801
01:47:50,680 --> 01:47:55,719
Speaker 1: it's like everything rings true. That's amazing about the lyrics

1802
01:47:55,800 --> 01:47:59,120
Speaker 1: is that they were like absurd and yet so truthful.

1803
01:47:59,240 --> 01:48:09,960
Speaker 1: They well observed, absurd but observed. Wait, absurd but observed

1804
01:48:10,640 --> 01:48:15,000
Speaker 1: is like on a T shirt. Come on it, um wait?

1805
01:48:15,040 --> 01:48:16,800
Speaker 1: But wait, what I wanted to say before we do business,

1806
01:48:16,800 --> 01:48:18,479
Speaker 1: I don't thinks funny is wait, what is the song

1807
01:48:18,600 --> 01:48:26,600
Speaker 1: about the um kid in the city? I love I

1808
01:48:27,280 --> 01:48:30,719
Speaker 1: love it. It's so funny to me, Every every single

1809
01:48:30,800 --> 01:48:32,760
Speaker 1: song hits for me. You're right, but but I mean,

1810
01:48:34,240 --> 01:48:36,639
Speaker 1: four Stars is just it's just a hit song. It's

1811
01:48:36,680 --> 01:48:39,680
Speaker 1: just it's Sarah. It's really sweet. It's really sweet, and

1812
01:48:39,800 --> 01:48:42,880
Speaker 1: it's like got so much warmth and heart and like,

1813
01:48:43,560 --> 01:48:48,120
Speaker 1: how lucky I fucking am in this like hail Mary,

1814
01:48:48,400 --> 01:48:58,160
Speaker 1: like a eleventh hour fucking whatever. Guys, you guys, you guys.

1815
01:48:58,400 --> 01:49:02,600
Speaker 1: I'm essentially you guys. I'm essentially Jean Smart. Like this

1816
01:49:02,840 --> 01:49:06,439
Speaker 1: is my farewell tour, you know what I mean. Let's

1817
01:49:06,560 --> 01:49:12,880
Speaker 1: be to be forty two. My ship is sailed. You

1818
01:49:13,040 --> 01:49:14,599
Speaker 1: and you and Michelle are going to have a big

1819
01:49:14,640 --> 01:49:17,920
Speaker 1: reunion project and like the world is gonna bust their

1820
01:49:18,080 --> 01:49:21,760
Speaker 1: damn and just wait, just wait, just wait. I have

1821
01:49:22,000 --> 01:49:26,439
Speaker 1: this movie that I'm going to direct. Whoa, I'm so

1822
01:49:26,560 --> 01:49:30,400
Speaker 1: excited about it. I can't Okay, but this, Michelle is

1823
01:49:30,439 --> 01:49:33,200
Speaker 1: going to be in it. Yeah, and it's gonna be

1824
01:49:33,320 --> 01:49:37,040
Speaker 1: so good. It's gonna be so good something I fucking stand.

1825
01:49:37,120 --> 01:49:40,080
Speaker 1: Michelle and I saw Cabaret opening night. I don't know

1826
01:49:40,200 --> 01:49:43,160
Speaker 1: how this happened same, but I was there. Okay, well,

1827
01:49:43,240 --> 01:49:45,000
Speaker 1: you were probably in the front. Me and Study were

1828
01:49:45,040 --> 01:49:47,479
Speaker 1: in the literal back row. I'm not kidding you. We

1829
01:49:47,560 --> 01:49:49,599
Speaker 1: don't know how we got tickets. We were walking through

1830
01:49:49,680 --> 01:49:52,080
Speaker 1: the like area where you get drinks, and Cynthia Nixon

1831
01:49:52,160 --> 01:49:56,280
Speaker 1: was talking to Braudley Cooper. Okay, and so we were.

1832
01:49:56,560 --> 01:50:01,560
Speaker 1: But I'm telling you Michelle killed. Oh my god, she

1833
01:50:01,880 --> 01:50:06,320
Speaker 1: fucking crushed, and she went back to the original text

1834
01:50:07,439 --> 01:50:11,080
Speaker 1: you go there, you go. And also that's what makes

1835
01:50:11,280 --> 01:50:15,040
Speaker 1: rewatch my week with Maryland now because when because there's

1836
01:50:15,080 --> 01:50:17,160
Speaker 1: a there's a line that that she goes, and I

1837
01:50:17,200 --> 01:50:19,080
Speaker 1: think it's iconic and I always will do it to

1838
01:50:19,200 --> 01:50:22,559
Speaker 1: my friends, even my gayest friends. I'll do this line too,

1839
01:50:22,600 --> 01:50:26,439
Speaker 1: and they'll be like, what's that from? I go shall

1840
01:50:26,520 --> 01:50:30,240
Speaker 1: I be her? And I go who? And then you

1841
01:50:30,360 --> 01:50:34,920
Speaker 1: say Maryland? It is iconic When she turns to Eddie

1842
01:50:34,960 --> 01:50:38,120
Speaker 1: rate Man and says, shall I be her? Because there's

1843
01:50:38,160 --> 01:50:43,120
Speaker 1: pressed outside? I think I said, that's like Louis and

1844
01:50:43,200 --> 01:50:45,880
Speaker 1: he didn't know what I was talking about something. They

1845
01:50:46,000 --> 01:50:48,639
Speaker 1: just you telling me that right now, like in this moment,

1846
01:50:48,920 --> 01:50:52,160
Speaker 1: I'm a little bit like we all should have Shall

1847
01:50:52,200 --> 01:50:56,360
Speaker 1: I be her? Shall I be her? Every every day

1848
01:50:56,400 --> 01:50:57,960
Speaker 1: before I work out and we'll go out into Franklin

1849
01:50:58,000 --> 01:51:00,200
Speaker 1: Avenue with a nice coffee, I say, shall I be he? Shell?

1850
01:51:00,439 --> 01:51:06,679
Speaker 1: Because going to cover it? And also like go funk yourselves.

1851
01:51:07,080 --> 01:51:10,160
Speaker 1: I can't even pre that. I don't think so, honey,

1852
01:51:10,200 --> 01:51:14,960
Speaker 1: speaking of negative thoughts, it's time, busy, you're not ready

1853
01:51:15,040 --> 01:51:17,559
Speaker 1: for my eye. I don't think so, honey. Yes, oh okay,

1854
01:51:17,600 --> 01:51:20,760
Speaker 1: well we'll see about that. Yang all right, but when

1855
01:51:20,800 --> 01:51:22,800
Speaker 1: are you going a time? Or should I all? Timer? Yes?

1856
01:51:22,960 --> 01:51:26,040
Speaker 1: This is busy, This is busy Phillips. I don't think so, honey.

1857
01:51:26,120 --> 01:51:30,240
Speaker 1: Heard time starts this so specific. I don't think so honey,

1858
01:51:30,280 --> 01:51:32,880
Speaker 1: New York Produce. What are you doing? Who do you

1859
01:51:33,000 --> 01:51:36,559
Speaker 1: think you are? Why are you an avocado? And you're rotten?

1860
01:51:36,800 --> 01:51:39,439
Speaker 1: Two seconds after I get you home from Twitter Joe's

1861
01:51:39,760 --> 01:51:42,280
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. I don't think so honey,

1862
01:51:42,360 --> 01:51:45,120
Speaker 1: this produce. What are we doing here? It all tastes

1863
01:51:45,160 --> 01:51:48,760
Speaker 1: like shit. It's terrible, No wonder people are in such

1864
01:51:48,800 --> 01:51:51,760
Speaker 1: a fucking bad mood for half of the fucking year.

1865
01:51:52,479 --> 01:51:56,840
Speaker 1: You can't get a goddamn citrus fruit to save your life.

1866
01:51:57,120 --> 01:52:04,679
Speaker 1: Where's the fucking hair? Goes from literally hardest fuck dead

1867
01:52:05,920 --> 01:52:10,200
Speaker 1: woman to half seconds. My children, who grew up eating

1868
01:52:10,400 --> 01:52:16,160
Speaker 1: every sort of delicious bounty of fucking Hollywood farmers market

1869
01:52:16,280 --> 01:52:19,800
Speaker 1: fair that you could find, have now declared that they

1870
01:52:19,880 --> 01:52:26,240
Speaker 1: are not in for the produce. And I'm like, New York,

1871
01:52:26,680 --> 01:52:30,000
Speaker 1: get it the fuck together. That's all I have to say.

1872
01:52:31,120 --> 01:52:34,080
Speaker 1: She don't think so, honey, someone misses the Sunday farmers

1873
01:52:34,160 --> 01:52:36,439
Speaker 1: markets of l A. I can see it in your eyes.

1874
01:52:37,960 --> 01:52:43,200
Speaker 1: New York is a disaster. But what can you do

1875
01:52:43,320 --> 01:52:45,160
Speaker 1: about There's there's no where we know what? You know

1876
01:52:45,200 --> 01:52:48,560
Speaker 1: what we get instead? And this is a This is

1877
01:52:48,600 --> 01:52:52,640
Speaker 1: a girl who is like I am. I am in

1878
01:52:52,760 --> 01:52:55,240
Speaker 1: the wool, died in the whatever the funk? That expression

1879
01:52:55,280 --> 01:53:00,760
Speaker 1: is sure. I'm l A through and through. I am

1880
01:53:00,880 --> 01:53:06,519
Speaker 1: West Coast fucking raised and educated for two years before

1881
01:53:06,520 --> 01:53:10,120
Speaker 1: I got my first TV show and just lived like

1882
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Speaker 1: just that is where my home is. But here's what

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Speaker 1: we get in New York. Instead of the good produce, nutritious,

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Speaker 1: delicious produce, we get culture. Yeah. And you know what else?

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Speaker 1: You know what the children get? They get um, they

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Speaker 1: get a world that is bigger than one industry and

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Speaker 1: one idea of what something? Uh yeah? And for that,

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Speaker 1: I say, I think we're going to live in New

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Speaker 1: York until my children are old enough to go to college.

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Speaker 1: Do you think, God, yeah, yeah, yeah, I can't. I can't.

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Speaker 1: I hide. I'm not gonna say I hate it here,

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Speaker 1: it's not I can't. The lack of Arajuan is stifling

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Speaker 1: my soul. Howevs. Sorry, sorry, we just we just find

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Speaker 1: our titles of a as. Yeah, the lack of arionon

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Speaker 1: the lack of arion is stifling my soul, how evs.

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Speaker 1: The growth that I've seen in both of my children

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Speaker 1: since September has been worth the price of admission. And

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Speaker 1: I would say that being in any city that is

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Speaker 1: not um, a city that is focused on one industry

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Speaker 1: and one way of being, is beneficial for a developing mind,

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Speaker 1: and especially when you have kids that are like never

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Speaker 1: divergent and different in all kinds of ways and like

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Speaker 1: just and and also just all children like maybe like

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Speaker 1: like l A is like amazing for babies, Like it's

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Speaker 1: like the easiest best best place to have babies because

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01:55:07,280 --> 01:55:12,280
Speaker 1: there's space and pools and outdoors and nice weather the

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Speaker 1: whole year round and like all this other stuff. But

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Speaker 1: when they get to be a certain age and they

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Speaker 1: when you're in like the most impressionable age, and you

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Speaker 1: think that like only one thing is important and there's

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Speaker 1: only one way to be and there's only one way

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Speaker 1: to make a living and to live and to like

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Speaker 1: exists in the world. I'm not saying Bertie is like

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, like god friends of like oh

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Speaker 1: socio economic Wait, like let's be real, Like they're in

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Speaker 1: fucking private school and they're still a child who's not

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Speaker 1: fully enlightened yet but yet totally totally and like all

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Speaker 1: of the things. But they're like their friends are like

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Speaker 1: have all different kinds of interests and they're not those

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Speaker 1: interests vary from being like famous on TikTok to be fat. No,

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Speaker 1: I'm kidding, but every every child should be raised in

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Speaker 1: a city where they don't know what Quimby is a

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Speaker 1: hundred fucking percent. And by the way, like r I P,

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Speaker 1: I think that that's next year, no one's gonna know

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Speaker 1: what Quimby was. But like no, but like Bertie's friends

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Speaker 1: like at this point now here, I think it's like

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Speaker 1: mildly amusing what their mom does, Whereas in Los Angeles,

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Speaker 1: legit Mark walked in on Bertie having a discussion, like

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Speaker 1: a serious debate in fourth grade with a another kid

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Speaker 1: from their school about whose parents had more Instagram followers. Unacceptable,

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Speaker 1: It's unacceptable. Honestly, get the Atlas van lines and and

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Speaker 1: so and so. Being in New York is worth all

1933
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Speaker 1: of the bruised apricots and flavorless hickam bruised apricots. Honey,

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Speaker 1: you know you can't even get an apricot? What are

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Speaker 1: you talking about where I didn't know. I'm not even

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Speaker 1: kidding you, Bone, I will fuck you for an apricot.

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Speaker 1: Like at this point, I'm like, what whose chick am

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Speaker 1: I say? Apricot? Quick? I am so deprived of my

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Speaker 1: fucking farmer's market fair. I sparagus today and I was like,

1940
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Speaker 1: this is amazing. It's just asparagus. I was like, I

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Speaker 1: haven't tasted today anything like this in months. You guys,

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Speaker 1: the produce here is yeah. But now I'm saying you

1943
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Speaker 1: might have to go to Brooklyn now because the Brooklyn

1944
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Speaker 1: does have good farmers markets. Don't be it, don't be

1945
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Speaker 1: in Manhattan snob now, listen, I'm not, I'm not. But

1946
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Speaker 1: here's the problem is that Mark's family is from like

1947
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Speaker 1: Sheephead's Bay, Brooklyn, and so he has like a deep

1948
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Speaker 1: sense memory association with Brooklyn that's like old people and

1949
01:58:04,880 --> 01:58:12,080
Speaker 1: like smelly apartments. And he can't Barbara's brook He can't.

1950
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Speaker 1: He can't cross the threshold we were looking for. I

1951
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Speaker 1: was like, let's buy a house in Brooklyn. There's more space.

1952
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Speaker 1: She is in Brooklyn. Right, I don't want to blowers

1953
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Speaker 1: I don't want to blowery cover. Fine. I think we're fine.

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Speaker 1: She's pretty publicly Brooklyn face Brooklyn. Well, oh my god.

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Speaker 1: You know what I watched the other night at the

1956
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Speaker 1: Greatest Showman. It was so good. I love British Showman.

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Speaker 1: You and my you and my seven year old. That's Dreams.

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Speaker 1: It's the Crickett favorite movie of all time. I love that.

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Speaker 1: A Million Dreams is low key the best song Million Dreams. Well,

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Speaker 1: first of all, never Enough as a moment and I

1961
01:58:53,680 --> 01:58:55,400
Speaker 1: turned to see you during Never Enough and I was like,

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Speaker 1: this is a moment and she said, you're a flops

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Speaker 1: all does her own singing rib? Oh? Is that that

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Speaker 1: knowledge I did? I was just sort of like she

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Speaker 1: did it's like a podcast. Okay, great, great, great, um,

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Speaker 1: because I always hate if I ever am like, oh god,

1967
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Speaker 1: did I say a thing that like she didn't want

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Speaker 1: publicly known. It's gonna end up in people mag oh um.

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Speaker 1: I know. She was like during the dancing there was

1970
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Speaker 1: like some dancing sequence and she fully fucking like dislocated,

1971
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Speaker 1: broke like two ribs and was in so much pain.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean she's like that's a thing, like

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Speaker 1: she is an incredible fucking dancer. I mean, Foster obviously

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Speaker 1: showed the skills, but she's great. She was great in

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Speaker 1: cat Cabaret, she's great in Greaterst Showman. And se Verdon

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Speaker 1: was the perfect sort of like confluence of all of

1977
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Speaker 1: the jobs that she had had and all of the

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Speaker 1: life experiences and then it was this just magical like

1979
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Speaker 1: orb of a part, and her playing Gwen Verdon was

1980
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Speaker 1: like transformative. I mean, I'm I don't know, I'm always

1981
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Speaker 1: in awe of like her abilities and talent. And then

1982
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Speaker 1: because she's the best person I know. That's another thing

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Speaker 1: I love about you is your great best friend, and

1984
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Speaker 1: I think that rocks and I think the most important

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Speaker 1: thing to me is friendship. But I recognize it. And

1986
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Speaker 1: that's why that very that day, I said to my sister,

1987
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Speaker 1: I said, that's us over there. I was like, I'll

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Speaker 1: always be by your side and he probably won't even

1989
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Speaker 1: invite me to things, but when you're gonna are you

1990
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Speaker 1: nominated for have any nominations? No, I'm not. I I

1991
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Speaker 1: was going to know before we got into this. I

1992
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Speaker 1: was just like the other day, I thought to myself,

1993
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Speaker 1: I showed I showed my sister. My sister was like,

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Speaker 1: has mappen in Atlanta? I was like, yeah, we we

1995
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Speaker 1: we did a show. We didn't I don't think so

1996
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Speaker 1: many here and went to the World of Coke. And

1997
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Speaker 1: then I showed her this stupid bit he was doing

1998
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Speaker 1: where he pretended to be Mariam Manudos at the World

1999
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Speaker 1: of Coke giving a tour. And I was like, and

2000
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Speaker 1: then I thought to myself, Oh, this is the funniest

2001
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Speaker 1: person in the world. This is the good, funniest, funniest, smartest,

2002
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Speaker 1: stupidest person in the world. So dearly and no, I agree,

2003
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Speaker 1: friends the most important thing. And there anyway, we are

2004
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Speaker 1: this is an incredible that you came by. I can't

2005
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Speaker 1: even tell you. I was like, it was like one

2006
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Speaker 1: of those it's one of those people. It's like, well,

2007
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Speaker 1: we could ask, but she probably wouldn't want to do this,

2008
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean? What are you kidding? Anyway?

2009
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Speaker 1: I was always like, they don't want me on their show?

2010
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Speaker 1: What are you talking about that? Here's the thing, here's

2011
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Speaker 1: the thing. I I feel like in my life sometimes

2012
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Speaker 1: I'm like those people like obviously like I'm not cool

2013
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Speaker 1: enough or I'm not like a part of the thing whatever,

2014
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Speaker 1: and then they're like, oh, we would never have and

2015
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Speaker 1: I'm like, wait what I that's such a fucking bummer.

2016
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Speaker 1: All I've ever wanted to do was like hang, I

2017
02:02:19,440 --> 02:02:23,680
Speaker 1: just gonna say hang. Listen's line back in. I'm gonna

2018
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Speaker 1: put my kids to bed, my love in snapping back in. Listen.

2019
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Speaker 1: If you haven't stream Girls five ever on Peacock, you're

2020
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Speaker 1: making a huge fucking mistake. You're a flap. I don't

2021
02:02:32,680 --> 02:02:35,000
Speaker 1: like you yet until you stream it. Then we can

2022
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Speaker 1: talk because it's such a good show. Busies amazing, as

2023
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Speaker 1: is the whole cast. I mean we've been saying and

2024
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Speaker 1: bowen Yang is included in that um but wow, listen

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Speaker 1: to Busy Phillips is doing her best. Pick up that book.

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Speaker 1: This will only hurt a little. Do your research one

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Speaker 1: to you. She didn't offer one to you, So you

2028
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Speaker 1: have nomination. Let me have the book. I'll send it

2029
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Speaker 1: to your sisters. I have my I have my inventive

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Speaker 1: line back in a rights back in. So that means

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Speaker 1: we're gonna come to a close. But we always bow

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Speaker 1: and yang and with a song we're kind Let are

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Speaker 1: not the words? Should we sing Michelle's song? All I

2034
02:03:39,080 --> 02:03:41,920
Speaker 1: want to sing busy song with Sarah and Paula and

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Speaker 1: come in up coming, up coming, up coming up. For

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Speaker 1: the rest of that listen to the Girl's side track

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Speaker 1: featuring Busy Phillips, Bye Bye