WEBVTT - Bone Thugs N Harmony 0:00:00.840 --> 0:00:00.960 Bright. 0:00:01.000 --> 0:00:02.000 All right, job. 0:00:03.600 --> 0:00:08.039 All across the USC Compton watch Bay to LA, come 0:00:08.119 --> 0:00:10.760 on to California, say from valley to valley. 0:00:11.320 --> 0:00:13.160 We represent that Keller County. 0:00:13.400 --> 0:00:15.480 So if you're keeping it real on your side of 0:00:15.520 --> 0:00:20.880 your town, you're tuning into gainst the Chronicles Chronic Goals. 0:00:21.079 --> 0:00:24.680 Be gonna tell you how we goals. If I lie, 0:00:24.760 --> 0:00:26.279 my nose will grow like Pinocchio. 0:00:26.320 --> 0:00:30.120 We're gonna tell you the truth and nothing but the truths. 0:00:29.200 --> 0:00:30.520 The chronic goals. 0:00:30.680 --> 0:00:34.640 This is not your average show. You're now tuned into 0:00:34.680 --> 0:00:36.280 the rail mc. 0:00:36.280 --> 0:00:38.360 Ain't big change and big spires. 0:00:38.120 --> 0:00:40.160 Strictly from the streets. 0:00:40.520 --> 0:00:49.000 Hello, Welcome to the gangst the Chronicles podcast, the production 0:00:49.080 --> 0:00:52.360 of iHeart Radio and Black Effect Podcast Network. Make sure 0:00:52.400 --> 0:00:55.360 you download the iHeart app and subscribe to Against the Chronicles. 0:00:55.520 --> 0:00:58.200 For my Apple users, hit the Purple Michael your front screen, 0:00:58.240 --> 0:01:01.280 subscribe to Against the Chronicles, leave a start, rating and comments. 0:01:01.760 --> 0:01:04.440 We like to welcome you to another episode Against the 0:01:04.480 --> 0:01:07.440 Chronicles podcast. Now I am Big Steal along with my 0:01:07.520 --> 0:01:12.120 homeboy and today Man, we got one of my folks 0:01:12.400 --> 0:01:14.399 in the studio with us. Man from the greatest city 0:01:14.480 --> 0:01:17.319 on the motherfucking planet, from the City of Cleveland Man, 0:01:18.360 --> 0:01:20.679 one of the most from one of the most iconic 0:01:20.720 --> 0:01:25.480 groups of all time. Man don't been bit stole from emulated, 0:01:25.760 --> 0:01:30.440 but never duplicated My mother Forucker, Homeboy Lazy Boom from 0:01:30.440 --> 0:01:33.080 the Almighty Boone Thugs was cracking dog Man. 0:01:33.120 --> 0:01:35.399 You know what it is, that Cleveland connection in the 0:01:35.440 --> 0:01:36.319 building for sure. 0:01:36.319 --> 0:01:36.479 Man. 0:01:36.520 --> 0:01:38.080 You know you're from the city, Dog, So I had 0:01:38.120 --> 0:01:41.039 to give you the slide. You try to slide some 0:01:41.160 --> 0:01:46.479 ship in there. Try to slide from the city, ub nigga. 0:01:46.880 --> 0:01:50.440 They just c you are trads for he you. 0:01:50.360 --> 0:01:52.920 Know what, Hey, this would always like this what I 0:01:52.960 --> 0:01:56.440 tell him in the Homie Glasses. Without Ohio, it wouldn't 0:01:56.480 --> 0:01:57.520 be no West Coast. 0:01:57.360 --> 0:02:00.600 Music, her Man. We got the funk. Funk come from Ohio, 0:02:00.600 --> 0:02:01.200 bottom line. 0:02:01.160 --> 0:02:03.480 The funk come from Ohio, Dog. And we love California. 0:02:03.520 --> 0:02:06.760 California is my home. I love it, love the people here. Oh, 0:02:06.840 --> 0:02:09.800 don't say they pull your mic towards you, Okay, yeah, 0:02:10.200 --> 0:02:13.040 check right there. Yeah. So you know, just with all 0:02:13.080 --> 0:02:16.240 the funk Man from from Roger Trout and Man just 0:02:16.320 --> 0:02:20.560 on everything that the West don't love and them. 0:02:20.400 --> 0:02:24.840 Bray so much though played football. Get up body here. 0:02:25.360 --> 0:02:27.600 Man, that hometown city. 0:02:27.639 --> 0:02:31.600 But I'm at. I'm at to tell Maria to snatch 0:02:31.720 --> 0:02:36.400 that drum machine out your house right now. You two 0:02:36.720 --> 0:02:39.760 hip hop for be right there? Hey man, you know what, 0:02:40.000 --> 0:02:43.639 I'm a brother, just love music. And you're coming from 0:02:43.639 --> 0:02:45.520 the city of Cleveland, man like I come from. 0:02:45.560 --> 0:02:49.920 Man. And I know you don't been asked this a 0:02:50.000 --> 0:02:53.280 million times man, because y'all did something nobody else was 0:02:53.320 --> 0:02:56.800 doing at that time. Y'all incorporated harmonies with the rhyming. 0:02:58.000 --> 0:02:59.920 Where did y'all How did y'all come up with this ship? 0:03:00.560 --> 0:03:03.160 I mean, you know, Cleveland is a singing city. You 0:03:03.240 --> 0:03:05.839 got the old Jay's le vert, you know what I mean, 0:03:06.120 --> 0:03:09.240 Rual boys, all that whole R and B flavor was 0:03:10.320 --> 0:03:13.040 thoroughly breaded in Cleveland, you know what I'm saying. And 0:03:13.120 --> 0:03:15.960 my mom sings, so you know we come from We 0:03:16.040 --> 0:03:19.160 come from that school. Born in the seventies, you know 0:03:19.200 --> 0:03:21.600 what I'm saying. We grew up with the Temptations and 0:03:22.200 --> 0:03:24.679 you know Dell Phonix. 0:03:24.280 --> 0:03:27.240 All them old school motown groups. You know what I mean. 0:03:27.280 --> 0:03:31.120 It was embedded from our parents' music, you know what 0:03:31.160 --> 0:03:34.280 I'm saying. So when when we was growing up, it 0:03:34.440 --> 0:03:37.680 was like you wanted to be a rapper. You ain't 0:03:37.720 --> 0:03:39.840 want to be a singer. Although we were singers. We 0:03:39.880 --> 0:03:42.960 did new addition, you know what I'm saying. We emulated 0:03:43.040 --> 0:03:46.400 all that Michael Jackson New Edition. But in the streets, 0:03:46.920 --> 0:03:48.600 you know what I mean. You wanted to be a 0:03:48.680 --> 0:03:50.360 rapper because you wanted to be hard. 0:03:50.480 --> 0:03:51.320 You know what I'm saying. 0:03:51.640 --> 0:03:53.600 If you was coming from the streets right, you. 0:03:53.600 --> 0:03:54.600 Know, you ain't know. 0:03:56.200 --> 0:03:57.560 What I'm saying. 0:03:57.720 --> 0:04:00.240 You went from wanting to be the new edition in 0:04:00.280 --> 0:04:03.000 the Jackson fivees too. You wanted to be the one 0:04:03.080 --> 0:04:06.280 DMCs and the whoos and the shit like that. So 0:04:06.760 --> 0:04:10.080 definitely that was our generation of time when we was 0:04:10.120 --> 0:04:12.440 coming to pass from that absolutely. 0:04:12.600 --> 0:04:16.120 Yeah. Man, and you from Claire Man, you all right 0:04:16.160 --> 0:04:19.160 across from Glenfield, right, yeah, right across from Glenfield. I 0:04:19.200 --> 0:04:20.800 went to the field though. I just had to walk 0:04:20.839 --> 0:04:23.840 through that motherfucker every day because I lived off I 0:04:23.880 --> 0:04:26.560 lived off one hundred and third, yeah, in Superior, but 0:04:26.600 --> 0:04:28.800 we claimed hundred you know, ten five. You know, that 0:04:28.960 --> 0:04:31.479 was our section. And at that time, if you was 0:04:31.560 --> 0:04:34.880 walking through, you know, off Saint Clair, you might get 0:04:34.880 --> 0:04:36.320 touched on a little bit, you know what I'm saying. 0:04:36.800 --> 0:04:38.440 Have a few altercations on the way home. 0:04:38.520 --> 0:04:40.360 Oh Man, Saint Clair, Saint Clair. 0:04:40.480 --> 0:04:44.520 Like, people really don't know how segregated Cleveland really was. 0:04:44.640 --> 0:04:47.679 Like when I came out to California, I was culture 0:04:47.720 --> 0:04:50.839 shocked because you had Mexicans and different people were like 0:04:51.240 --> 0:04:53.240 in Cleveland, it's all black. 0:04:53.640 --> 0:04:55.520 It's all black beside Cleveland. 0:04:55.560 --> 0:04:57.800 Like when you when you walk in them streets, right, 0:04:58.120 --> 0:05:01.520 you gotta deal with niggas, and it used to be divided. 0:05:01.640 --> 0:05:03.760 That was the funny thing about it. Because you have 0:05:03.800 --> 0:05:05.799 a cat that lived. You might have went to elementary 0:05:05.800 --> 0:05:08.039 school with him. Yeah, but he's stay on this side 0:05:08.200 --> 0:05:10.360 and you still on this side, and y'all niggas is few, 0:05:10.480 --> 0:05:12.760 and you really don't know why. It's just that, you 0:05:12.800 --> 0:05:14.520 know when you walk through certain least for me because 0:05:14.520 --> 0:05:16.600 I'm a little bit older than you. You used to 0:05:16.640 --> 0:05:17.880 have the squabble. We used to have to have your 0:05:17.920 --> 0:05:18.839 squabble game. Right. 0:05:18.920 --> 0:05:21.520 We went to uh we went to FDR, you know 0:05:21.560 --> 0:05:22.120 what I'm saying. 0:05:22.200 --> 0:05:25.560 So we had it out with Patrick Henry the other 0:05:25.880 --> 0:05:28.320 other junior high school you know what I'm saying. Like, 0:05:28.920 --> 0:05:31.640 so one of my great friends in life is named 0:05:31.720 --> 0:05:34.359 Ken Dog Mighty More Thugg you know what I'm saying. 0:05:34.440 --> 0:05:36.760 So we used to have to squab with them niggas 0:05:36.800 --> 0:05:39.600 all the way until we got bussed to the same school. 0:05:40.480 --> 0:05:43.200 You know what I'm saying, Like in high schools, but 0:05:43.360 --> 0:05:44.480 in junior high. 0:05:44.520 --> 0:05:46.640 That was that side. That was that side. If you 0:05:46.720 --> 0:05:48.279 crossed it, it was on and cracking. 0:05:48.520 --> 0:05:49.520 Yeah yeah, man, I know. 0:05:51.040 --> 0:05:54.000 Still coming out here from Cleveland and seeing how we 0:05:54.080 --> 0:05:56.520 got down one shit, how was it different? 0:05:56.960 --> 0:05:59.919 You know what, man, California is deceptive as a motherfucker 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:02.680 because as Lake and the tests, Cleveland is a ghettle 0:06:03.080 --> 0:06:05.280 like up there, it ain't no in between. But out 0:06:05.320 --> 0:06:07.679 here you could be in a place that looked suburb 0:06:07.760 --> 0:06:10.240 in its head and look nice, but you be smacked 0:06:10.279 --> 0:06:12.800 there in the middle of the hood like California is nice. 0:06:12.839 --> 0:06:16.400 It's like if you a homeless nigga, or if you 0:06:16.440 --> 0:06:18.479 ain't first, ain't got no money and you sleeping in 0:06:18.520 --> 0:06:20.240 your jacket. You know what I'm saying, You got the 0:06:20.240 --> 0:06:23.320 winner you're dealing with. Ain't no money up in that motherfucker. 0:06:23.320 --> 0:06:25.599 At least out of here, you can work a monkey 0:06:25.640 --> 0:06:27.640 hustle out here. Nigga, go get him a job at 0:06:27.680 --> 0:06:30.080 motherfucking Walmart, working at night, or a job. It's a 0:06:30.160 --> 0:06:33.479 security guard some fucking where in Cleveland. If it ain't cracked, 0:06:33.520 --> 0:06:35.360 it ain't crack. You ain't got no choice but either 0:06:35.400 --> 0:06:36.000 hook or crook. 0:06:36.440 --> 0:06:39.200 When we first touched down out here, we touched down 0:06:39.560 --> 0:06:43.200 in Mansfield, in Mansfield Hood, you know what I mean. 0:06:43.240 --> 0:06:45.840 And to me, that shit looked a nice yeah what 0:06:45.880 --> 0:06:46.280 I'm saying. 0:06:46.279 --> 0:06:49.360 So we walking to the store to go get bruise 0:06:49.480 --> 0:06:53.000 and things like that, We're thinking it's okay. But niggas 0:06:53.400 --> 0:06:55.360 cornered us, you know what I'm saying. They like, Man, 0:06:55.400 --> 0:06:57.799 if you're gonna be around here, you got to claim something. 0:06:57.880 --> 0:06:59.960 Nigga like, we gotta protect you. And what I'm like, 0:07:00.440 --> 0:07:02.920 I'm like, man, we ain't gonna be here long. We rappers, 0:07:02.960 --> 0:07:05.960 you know what I'm saying. Yeah, but like the sept 0:07:06.120 --> 0:07:09.840 like you know, the projects in Cleveland look like the 0:07:09.880 --> 0:07:14.360 projects out here, Like every California count is beautiful out Yeah. 0:07:14.400 --> 0:07:14.520 Man. 0:07:14.560 --> 0:07:16.960 I used to think man living up and I used 0:07:17.000 --> 0:07:19.640 to think man when I used to go visit homies 0:07:19.680 --> 0:07:22.280 that live different places. I would go up to like 0:07:22.360 --> 0:07:25.320 Bedford in different places, Shaker Heights. I thought that shit 0:07:25.480 --> 0:07:27.320 was nice. I was like, man, they rich. 0:07:27.480 --> 0:07:29.720 Yeah, you go up there. I mean, we don't even 0:07:29.760 --> 0:07:32.200 go up there. You're scared to get pulled over up there, 0:07:32.240 --> 0:07:33.120 you know what I'm saying. 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:35.760 But out here in California, Dog, that's the thing, everything 0:07:35.880 --> 0:07:38.120 is is nice, man like. Cause I was in I 0:07:38.160 --> 0:07:41.440 came to Long Beach in eighty eight, right, And the 0:07:41.480 --> 0:07:44.120 only thing that was when I started realizing it was 0:07:44.120 --> 0:07:46.120 the same kind of was the sack. You know what 0:07:46.160 --> 0:07:48.400 I'm saying. Everything was about the sack at that time. 0:07:48.720 --> 0:07:50.640 You getting you a sack, man, You getting on with 0:07:50.680 --> 0:07:54.080 a zone or a fifty piece you know, fifty piece 0:07:54.120 --> 0:07:54.640 of a zone. 0:07:54.640 --> 0:07:55.200 You houstle. 0:07:55.280 --> 0:07:56.680 Yeah, started hustling, you know what I mean. 0:07:57.480 --> 0:07:59.640 Yeah, So we ain't We ain't know what they expect. 0:07:59.720 --> 0:08:02.080 All you knew was minutes to society, you know what 0:08:02.120 --> 0:08:04.160 I'm saying, watching y'all niggas on the movie. 0:08:04.240 --> 0:08:05.440 So we we ain't know. 0:08:05.560 --> 0:08:08.680 You know, all we heard was the gang, the uh, 0:08:09.720 --> 0:08:12.920 the riots had just went down and all that shit. 0:08:13.080 --> 0:08:15.560 So when we got out here, we ain't know. We 0:08:15.600 --> 0:08:19.240 didn't know, you know what I'm saying. So this this California, 0:08:19.600 --> 0:08:20.400 I'm from Cleveland. 0:08:20.440 --> 0:08:20.720 Phone. 0:08:20.760 --> 0:08:24.360 I just to let everybody know I left Cleveland. I 0:08:24.400 --> 0:08:25.800 was eighteen years old. 0:08:25.960 --> 0:08:28.120 You was like me. I was seventeen when I first came. 0:08:28.040 --> 0:08:30.320 Out, forty nine this year. You know what I'm saying. 0:08:30.360 --> 0:08:32.280 So the rest of my years I've been out here 0:08:32.280 --> 0:08:37.880 in California embedded mean, So I'm a Cleveland, California nigga. 0:08:37.480 --> 0:08:40.000 Exactly, niggas. I can't, man, I ain't lot. Last time 0:08:40.000 --> 0:08:41.800 I went to the crib though, I couldn't do more. 0:08:41.840 --> 0:08:43.600 I can't do past a week when I do, Man, 0:08:43.679 --> 0:08:45.760 you can't. I can't do past a week because you 0:08:45.800 --> 0:08:46.080 see it. 0:08:46.200 --> 0:08:46.640 You can't. 0:08:47.040 --> 0:08:51.480 Man. No, I love California though, no shit, yes, the shit. 0:08:51.600 --> 0:08:53.840 What's the longest you stayed when you went back home? 0:08:54.000 --> 0:08:56.280 You know what? Man? Once I make my runs and 0:08:56.320 --> 0:08:58.439 go cause I got anties. Man, that's getting up in 0:08:58.480 --> 0:09:00.199 the eighties and stuff. So I try to make get 0:09:00.200 --> 0:09:04.640 home a little bit more frequently. I could do a 0:09:04.640 --> 0:09:07.080 week thog once because I got a big ass family. 0:09:07.120 --> 0:09:09.720 Once I hit the family in Cleveland, then I go 0:09:09.760 --> 0:09:12.679 out to Akron and all that stuff that looks around 0:09:12.720 --> 0:09:14.600 the area. I might hit Columbus if I got time. 0:09:14.920 --> 0:09:16.840 Once I do that and see everybody straight, dog, I'm 0:09:16.880 --> 0:09:17.880 ready to go. It's too slow. 0:09:17.960 --> 0:09:19.800 My dude. Yeah, it's slow, man. 0:09:19.840 --> 0:09:23.760 And then you know, like we still bringing the opportunities there, 0:09:23.840 --> 0:09:26.800 you know what I mean, Like you know they like, well, 0:09:26.840 --> 0:09:28.800 you know, do it from home doing, but all the 0:09:28.880 --> 0:09:29.880 resources is here. 0:09:30.400 --> 0:09:31.000 Yeah, exactly. 0:09:31.120 --> 0:09:31.360 Line. 0:09:31.400 --> 0:09:33.920 You know, it's hard because one of the things y'all 0:09:33.920 --> 0:09:35.960 did there was a big deal man, and I was 0:09:36.080 --> 0:09:40.120 really hoping that it took. When y'all built most Ug Records, 0:09:40.600 --> 0:09:43.920 y'all actually a base it in Cleveland, and I thought 0:09:43.920 --> 0:09:45.800 that was dope because I had, you know, my people 0:09:45.840 --> 0:09:47.360 hit me in the sign. You know, boone got a 0:09:47.400 --> 0:09:49.319 record company. We go try to I know Niggas was 0:09:49.360 --> 0:09:52.400 talking about. I know y'all State got y'all lobby, State 0:09:52.440 --> 0:09:53.840 full of people trying to submit demos. 0:09:53.880 --> 0:09:56.520 Didn't Yeah, man, most the headquarters was wild. 0:09:57.640 --> 0:09:59.600 Yeah, man, What made y'all decide to just keep it 0:09:59.640 --> 0:09:59.960 in Clevel? 0:10:00.720 --> 0:10:04.240 I mean back then, the mission was to come out 0:10:04.240 --> 0:10:07.920 here to be something, to make some of ourselves. 0:10:07.360 --> 0:10:09.480 To bring it home anyway, you know what I mean. 0:10:09.600 --> 0:10:13.360 Like we wanted to go home to make a difference, 0:10:13.400 --> 0:10:15.440 you know what I mean, But we just didn't know 0:10:15.480 --> 0:10:18.680 how much work that really entail, you know what I'm saying, 0:10:18.800 --> 0:10:23.640 Like it's like nothing, nothing was there. So it'll probably 0:10:23.640 --> 0:10:27.600 be a generation after me before we get it all 0:10:27.640 --> 0:10:30.040 the way built up because we started from nothing. 0:10:30.640 --> 0:10:33.560 Yeah for real, man, that's why. So because Cleveland, man 0:10:33.640 --> 0:10:36.040 almost like had the worst look in the world. Man. 0:10:37.280 --> 0:10:39.439 We lost the football team, man, you know what I'm saying. 0:10:39.480 --> 0:10:41.280 Remember when dude took the football team out to see 0:10:41.440 --> 0:10:43.439 I really cried when that happened, my nigga. 0:10:43.200 --> 0:10:46.160 I was like, yeah, we always hurt, man. 0:10:46.400 --> 0:10:48.960 I was mad. Then the motherfucker to Browns, and then 0:10:49.000 --> 0:10:50.959 the niggas fucked around and won a championship. Like a 0:10:51.000 --> 0:10:51.920 few years later, I. 0:10:51.840 --> 0:10:56.280 Was year Baltimore and won a chat, won a championship. 0:10:56.320 --> 0:10:58.560 I felt like that should have been all harse like 0:10:58.640 --> 0:11:01.920 they kind of me just did what the fan base? 0:11:02.000 --> 0:11:04.360 What happened? Bro, I'm gonna tell you something about Cleveland. 0:11:05.120 --> 0:11:08.000 You was a nigga who was you know, from the streets, 0:11:08.640 --> 0:11:10.200 born and bred Cleveland. 0:11:11.080 --> 0:11:11.800 What happened? 0:11:12.360 --> 0:11:15.079 Man? I think it's a combination of poverty, man, and 0:11:15.320 --> 0:11:18.319 lack of opportunity. You know, because you think about it, Man, 0:11:18.360 --> 0:11:22.200 the Bone wouldn't have made their trip out here, ain't 0:11:22.200 --> 0:11:24.360 no tell y'all. Possibly could have got picked up by 0:11:24.360 --> 0:11:26.400 somebody in New York. But I can't picture y'all on 0:11:26.400 --> 0:11:28.440 no other label other than ruthless, you know what I mean. 0:11:30.600 --> 0:11:32.520 We had a choice though, we could have went to 0:11:32.559 --> 0:11:34.080 the East Coast. It was closer. 0:11:34.960 --> 0:11:37.760 We was a coin flip or was it like that 0:11:37.920 --> 0:11:39.160 we go on to the West Coast? 0:11:39.400 --> 0:11:40.640 It was y'all nigga. 0:11:41.000 --> 0:11:44.280 Y'all had this like we was coming to California because 0:11:44.960 --> 0:11:47.760 of easy E, because of eight you know what I'm saying, 0:11:47.880 --> 0:11:52.000 Because of shit Snoop had just started, you know what 0:11:52.040 --> 0:11:56.040 I'm saying. So doctor Dre like that whole influence that, 0:11:56.520 --> 0:11:59.960 Like we was influent Cleveland, We was influenced by everything. 0:12:00.400 --> 0:12:03.000 But when the West Coast hit, niggas. 0:12:02.679 --> 0:12:05.839 Had on dickies. Yeah we was. 0:12:06.000 --> 0:12:08.720 We was California because we was on the block selling dope. 0:12:09.320 --> 0:12:13.200 So oh man, here it was like that's where I 0:12:13.280 --> 0:12:13.680 want to be. 0:12:14.200 --> 0:12:16.480 Hell, yeah, you got the same bug I did, man, 0:12:16.520 --> 0:12:17.800 And I think you. 0:12:17.720 --> 0:12:19.400 Didn't get the East Coast bug at all. 0:12:19.480 --> 0:12:21.280 Ste You know what, No I messed with East Coast 0:12:21.360 --> 0:12:23.440 music heavy, man, But I always saw myself, like I 0:12:23.480 --> 0:12:25.280 told you when I heard six in the Morning and 0:12:25.400 --> 0:12:27.360 Ryan Page and all that, Man, I said that's that 0:12:27.480 --> 0:12:29.280 sound exciting to me. I ain't trying to go somewhere 0:12:29.320 --> 0:12:31.360 else where it's cold like it. He is here because 0:12:31.360 --> 0:12:33.960 my thing was this, if I'm gonna go somewhere and struggle, 0:12:34.080 --> 0:12:35.760 I'm gonna be where it's hot at and I can 0:12:35.800 --> 0:12:38.840 get some money. Absolutely, you feel what I'm saying. It's like, 0:12:38.840 --> 0:12:40.640 if I'm gonna go to New York, you fuck around, 0:12:40.679 --> 0:12:42.440 you might have a stretch, my nigga, you might have 0:12:42.480 --> 0:12:44.160 to sleep in the car or some shit a few nights. 0:12:44.400 --> 0:12:46.040 I'd rather sleep in the car out here and this 0:12:46.080 --> 0:12:49.319 motherfucker talked and be in Ohio or New York's. 0:12:49.040 --> 0:12:52.800 So crazy, how something? You know the paths that some 0:12:52.960 --> 0:12:56.040 niggas took. You know what I'm saying. Because y'all being 0:12:56.120 --> 0:12:58.560 all the way up there, being right there by New York, 0:12:58.640 --> 0:13:02.160 y'all decided to come here. My man Primo, who was 0:13:02.160 --> 0:13:05.840 from Texas, who was a hop skipping and jump from Cali, 0:13:06.120 --> 0:13:07.319 he decided to fight it. 0:13:07.320 --> 0:13:10.120 But going to New York. Check this out there. If 0:13:10.160 --> 0:13:12.319 Primo don't hook up with Guru, he might not ever 0:13:12.360 --> 0:13:15.959 become Primo. You feel what I'm saying. He might not, right, 0:13:16.120 --> 0:13:18.600 But you know, I think at the end of the day, Man, 0:13:18.640 --> 0:13:19.800 it be divine intervention. 0:13:19.920 --> 0:13:20.040 Man. 0:13:20.080 --> 0:13:22.920 I very much believe in God, man, and I think 0:13:23.000 --> 0:13:25.920 sometimes God got a plan and he'll plant little breadcrumbs 0:13:25.960 --> 0:13:27.719 along the way to let you know this, because it's 0:13:27.800 --> 0:13:33.120 just a feeling. Like when I heard Ice Tea, I 0:13:33.120 --> 0:13:36.439 could picture myself out here rolling down motherfucking crensh Off 0:13:36.920 --> 0:13:37.720 or whatever that was. 0:13:37.760 --> 0:13:39.880 And you have a choice. Why Brod, did you have 0:13:39.920 --> 0:13:42.120 a choice? You know what, man? I could have went 0:13:42.160 --> 0:13:44.280 because I played football. That was a little way out 0:13:44.280 --> 0:13:45.960 I could have went into my grades is messed up. 0:13:46.000 --> 0:13:47.679 I could have went to a little school in Kansas 0:13:47.720 --> 0:13:50.040 called Coffeeville. And I know they took me on a 0:13:50.120 --> 0:13:51.959 trip down there, and all I saw down there was 0:13:52.000 --> 0:13:54.679 fat white girl's dog. No offense to fat white women, 0:13:55.200 --> 0:13:59.360 but they down and they had a tail. They're gonna 0:13:59.360 --> 0:14:01.720 be waiting out with a gang of pies to throw 0:14:01.760 --> 0:14:02.440 in your faces. 0:14:02.520 --> 0:14:04.560 Shit, you know, you know, I want them a little 0:14:04.559 --> 0:14:06.400 recruiting trips, so to speak. And they had a little 0:14:06.400 --> 0:14:08.840 party and I went down there. They had a bunch 0:14:08.880 --> 0:14:12.720 of robust women, robust white women. 0:14:13.240 --> 0:14:18.000 They had healthy females, yeah, you know, and. 0:14:17.960 --> 0:14:19.960 They had some fruit punch and some potato chips on 0:14:20.000 --> 0:14:23.960 the table, and I was like, man, I don't know, man, 0:14:24.000 --> 0:14:26.120 it's even more boring than Cleveland. Man, at least Cleveland 0:14:26.120 --> 0:14:28.200 ain't boring. You like it. It's the wrong ship, but 0:14:28.240 --> 0:14:29.080 you're get into something. 0:14:30.240 --> 0:14:33.480 This generic said they had tato chips and fruit punch. 0:14:33.960 --> 0:14:37.440 Yeah, so either I'm gonna pick potato chips and fruit punks. Well, 0:14:37.480 --> 0:14:39.040 I'm gonna go out there to wear the beach at 0:14:39.080 --> 0:14:41.320 and the wear look exciting that I'm going out this 0:14:41.480 --> 0:14:43.720 sighting scene because they ain't you know, I'm going to exacy. 0:14:43.760 --> 0:14:46.000 They ain't bringing niggas on the recruiting trips. You know, 0:14:46.480 --> 0:14:48.240 I just knew from what I saw on TV. Nigga, 0:14:48.240 --> 0:14:50.240 I'm going out there with the palm trees at the girls. 0:14:50.600 --> 0:14:52.640 And you just picked the JC and said, fuck it, 0:14:52.680 --> 0:14:54.240 I'm head to that. I'm coming to Long b C. 0:14:54.360 --> 0:14:55.680 And it was the best thing I ever did in 0:14:55.720 --> 0:14:57.720 my life. Shut out the coach, will Shaw. This man 0:14:57.840 --> 0:15:01.000 changed my life, you know what I mean? Man changed 0:15:01.000 --> 0:15:01.400 my life. 0:15:01.440 --> 0:15:01.600 Man. 0:15:01.640 --> 0:15:04.440 I wound up doing some incredible things coming to California 0:15:04.480 --> 0:15:07.600 that I know for sure would have been impeded in 0:15:07.640 --> 0:15:09.760 Cleveland by a number of things. First, of all, we 0:15:09.800 --> 0:15:11.960 got to go back to the lack of opportunity. I 0:15:12.000 --> 0:15:14.359 would have for sure been selling because all my homeboys 0:15:14.360 --> 0:15:16.800 went on to become some of that state's biggest d boys. 0:15:17.160 --> 0:15:20.120 You feel what I'm saying. They was really moving some things, 0:15:20.400 --> 0:15:23.280 and along that came to them, niggas going doing penitentiary time. 0:15:23.320 --> 0:15:25.320 Shout out to my nigga, Teddy, he just came home. 0:15:25.360 --> 0:15:26.840 He was just out of here, the one I brought 0:15:26.880 --> 0:15:29.320 to the show in La Okay. You know me and 0:15:29.400 --> 0:15:31.480 him that when I we first started hustling. Me and 0:15:31.560 --> 0:15:33.640 him was hustling together, but I said, I don't know 0:15:33.680 --> 0:15:35.440 if this is what I want to do full time, 0:15:35.520 --> 0:15:37.600 my nigga, but he was even then you saw in 0:15:37.600 --> 0:15:40.240 his eyes we made that first fifteen hundred two. He 0:15:40.320 --> 0:15:42.880 was like, man, this is zip right here. You stupid 0:15:42.920 --> 0:15:45.200 for leaving, You crazy for leaving. And he was a 0:15:45.200 --> 0:15:47.160 better football player than me, for real. My niggas they 0:15:47.200 --> 0:15:47.960 wanted both of us. 0:15:49.360 --> 0:15:52.240 Yeah, niggas was throwing it away. Man out there in Cleveland. 0:15:52.240 --> 0:15:55.080 But you know that that state right there, You know 0:15:55.160 --> 0:15:58.360 he got the Supreme Court. You know what I'm saying, Like, 0:15:58.400 --> 0:16:02.360 you guys sold the police in Cleveland and Ohio period. 0:16:02.800 --> 0:16:05.440 You know what they say about Ohio, You go on vacation, 0:16:05.600 --> 0:16:09.000 you leaving on probation because they they want a nigga. 0:16:09.120 --> 0:16:11.360 You go, they gonna, they gonna, they gonna get you 0:16:11.400 --> 0:16:16.200 with a ticket somehow. That's why I got out of there, 0:16:16.200 --> 0:16:18.600 because I tried to go home and live home and 0:16:18.640 --> 0:16:22.240 all that. But when you got like when you when 0:16:22.240 --> 0:16:26.120 you got the more money and you driving bens and 0:16:26.160 --> 0:16:28.520 this that, and you're standing out sticking out like a 0:16:28.600 --> 0:16:31.760 sore thumb. Every time I pulled out my driveway, they 0:16:31.920 --> 0:16:35.400 was boom boom, just trying to hit me, you know, 0:16:35.920 --> 0:16:38.120 keeping me, keeping me in the system. I was like, 0:16:38.280 --> 0:16:42.720 so I might as well go where a drop top 0:16:42.800 --> 0:16:45.600 five hundred bens is average, you know what I'm saying, 0:16:45.920 --> 0:16:48.600 So I can blend in so that that that was 0:16:48.640 --> 0:16:53.040 the benefit for California for me, because the lifestyle you 0:16:53.080 --> 0:16:55.360 can spread out out here. 0:16:55.480 --> 0:17:00.400 You thought that, you know, looking at you know, where 0:17:00.480 --> 0:17:05.240 y'all had the status, you'd have thought in some way 0:17:05.280 --> 0:17:07.840 they would have been kind of proud to you know, 0:17:08.160 --> 0:17:11.040 for sure. You know, we got some local boys who'd 0:17:11.040 --> 0:17:13.520 have made it good, and I mean made it good, 0:17:13.720 --> 0:17:17.159 you know, as far as music, is hip hop is concerned. 0:17:17.920 --> 0:17:20.840 Y'all was on the map as far as Cleveland is concerned. 0:17:21.119 --> 0:17:24.919 And you would think that the local motherfucking law enforcement 0:17:25.000 --> 0:17:29.040 motherfucker would be like, Oh, that's bone. Thuh, that's lazy bone. 0:17:29.040 --> 0:17:31.280 You know what I'm saying. Them niggas, we know he ain't. 0:17:31.600 --> 0:17:33.639 We know he ain't no d boy, we know he 0:17:33.680 --> 0:17:36.680 ain't gang banging and nothing like that. This motherfucker made 0:17:36.680 --> 0:17:39.280 it from the music, so and he's got us on 0:17:39.280 --> 0:17:42.560 the status. But you know, haterism coming all kind of 0:17:42.600 --> 0:17:43.359 shapes and shit. 0:17:43.640 --> 0:17:45.280 It was the worse than the people that's supposed to 0:17:45.280 --> 0:17:45.520 love you. 0:17:45.560 --> 0:17:47.280 Man, it was like fifty to fifty. You know what 0:17:47.320 --> 0:17:47.720 I'm saying. 0:17:47.760 --> 0:17:50.320 You had the niggas that gun hope police, they'll give 0:17:50.400 --> 0:17:53.240 me an escort home if I'm drinking and something like that. 0:17:53.280 --> 0:17:57.560 But then his partner might be prejudice as hell, like 0:17:57.880 --> 0:18:01.560 fuck this nigger. We've taken any men and like they 0:18:01.720 --> 0:18:05.080 but that's how it is prejudiced, like especially man with. 0:18:05.119 --> 0:18:07.360 The mentality that the white folks. That's what I tell 0:18:07.440 --> 0:18:10.720 brothers here. I say, y'all ain't really encountered no racism 0:18:10.760 --> 0:18:14.280 out here, because out here a motherfucker see you and 0:18:14.359 --> 0:18:16.560 behave and go have drinks. But you getting this car, 0:18:16.640 --> 0:18:19.040 fucking nigger because it's just a little bit more progressive 0:18:19.080 --> 0:18:21.760 out here, you know, you can't. Racism is frowned to 0:18:21.800 --> 0:18:24.160 punt out here. But back there you got some white 0:18:24.160 --> 0:18:27.119 boys to tell you, I don't fuck with your kind nigger. 0:18:27.280 --> 0:18:30.439 I mean, it's they see you and they say diddy 0:18:30.480 --> 0:18:31.080 ass nigger. 0:18:31.800 --> 0:18:34.480 And to this day though, like they it's just born 0:18:34.520 --> 0:18:34.920 and bred. 0:18:35.160 --> 0:18:38.000 When you raise like that, I'm saying, like when your 0:18:38.080 --> 0:18:40.880 parents put that in you, you know what I'm saying, it's. 0:18:40.720 --> 0:18:42.359 Hard to it's hard. 0:18:42.480 --> 0:18:45.199 Like I even had friends that, you know, when I 0:18:45.280 --> 0:18:49.040 went to school, we was cool as hell, But afterwards, 0:18:49.320 --> 0:18:51.240 you know, being on the West Side, I couldn't go 0:18:51.280 --> 0:18:54.160 over their house or nothing like that because they parents, 0:18:54.920 --> 0:18:56.879 you know what. I'm just like, you know, they just 0:18:56.880 --> 0:18:57.560 didn't make this. 0:18:57.640 --> 0:19:00.359 How it was, especially with the busting program even and 0:19:00.440 --> 0:19:03.760 they's crazy they kept it going because I was busted 0:19:03.760 --> 0:19:05.960 to the West Side. When I was in elementary, I 0:19:06.000 --> 0:19:10.000 went to Thomas Jefferson, No, not Thomas Jeffers went Thomas 0:19:10.040 --> 0:19:12.680 Jefferson for junior high. I went to Clark Elementary for Elementary, 0:19:12.760 --> 0:19:15.480 right and right across from Clark. Yeah, you went to Clark. 0:19:15.520 --> 0:19:16.240 I went to Clark. 0:19:16.359 --> 0:19:18.560 Yeah. It was a white supremacist thing right across the 0:19:18.600 --> 0:19:20.200 street from Clark Elementary. I don't know if it was 0:19:20.200 --> 0:19:21.840 still there when you was there, but that's just how 0:19:21.880 --> 0:19:22.159 it was. 0:19:22.560 --> 0:19:22.760 Shit. 0:19:22.960 --> 0:19:24.919 Yeah, they let you know. Man. Oh man, I had 0:19:24.920 --> 0:19:28.440 a girl, Becky tell me. She said, norm you're really nice. 0:19:29.359 --> 0:19:32.840 But my my mom says that black people are monkeys. 0:19:33.320 --> 0:19:36.439 Yeah, yeah, I mean they That's that's one thing about 0:19:36.640 --> 0:19:38.840 you know. That's why I like it here, you know 0:19:38.880 --> 0:19:42.200 what I'm saying, because you got you got, you got everybody, man, 0:19:42.280 --> 0:19:46.040 all this melting pot here California. But that's why people 0:19:46.080 --> 0:19:48.760 start migrating West a long time ago, anywhere. 0:19:48.800 --> 0:19:49.120 You know. 0:19:49.760 --> 0:19:50.639 Yeah, you can make it. 0:19:50.680 --> 0:19:50.840 Man. 0:19:50.880 --> 0:19:55.359 The thing is Cleveland, man, Unfortunately, Man is a place 0:19:55.440 --> 0:19:58.439 that's marrowed by extreme poverty. And the conditions don't make 0:19:58.440 --> 0:20:00.920 it no better. You know, you're fighting the bad ass weather, right, 0:20:01.480 --> 0:20:04.920 and then you got to just good old fashioned just haterism. Man, 0:20:04.960 --> 0:20:06.760 it's hard to wear. If you're a person that don't 0:20:06.760 --> 0:20:08.960 attain a certain thing in your life, you gonna have 0:20:09.000 --> 0:20:11.040 people mad at you for no reason. Man, it felt 0:20:11.119 --> 0:20:13.119 like they should have been you, Like, like seriously, it's 0:20:13.160 --> 0:20:14.240 the weirdest thing ever, bro. 0:20:14.760 --> 0:20:16.960 I mean, don't get me wrong. I got love for 0:20:17.080 --> 0:20:19.840 my city, like I love Cleveland to death. 0:20:19.920 --> 0:20:25.600 Look heart, that shit rough. We ain't gonna front. 0:20:25.880 --> 0:20:30.640 I've done these shows in Cleveland, yes, indeed, yeah, Cleveland. 0:20:31.000 --> 0:20:33.320 But Cleveland put something inside of you, though. Dog, if 0:20:33.320 --> 0:20:36.199 you if you a hustler, Cleveland like give a like 0:20:36.520 --> 0:20:39.760 you just. I don't know no niggas, the slackers from Cleveland, 0:20:41.080 --> 0:20:43.360 anybody I know from Cleveland, they trying to get it, man, 0:20:43.400 --> 0:20:46.280 because they understand what poverty is. It's like every day, dog, 0:20:46.920 --> 0:20:49.560 I don't. I've never allowed myself to get comfortable, no 0:20:49.600 --> 0:20:51.800 matter how much money I got in the bank or whatever, 0:20:51.960 --> 0:20:54.960 because I know, with just a few twists and turns, man, 0:20:55.000 --> 0:20:57.159 you could be on your ass somewhere. Man, you be 0:20:57.280 --> 0:20:59.240 right back in that motherfucker dog looking at the niggas 0:20:59.280 --> 0:21:00.480 you went to elementary school with. 0:21:00.680 --> 0:21:04.480 I think that's any niggas mentality or any person period, 0:21:05.680 --> 0:21:09.359 male or female. Man, if you just born with that, 0:21:09.600 --> 0:21:15.240 you know, go get mentality. It's hard to stop trying 0:21:15.280 --> 0:21:17.480 to find the next hustle. You know what I'm saying, 0:21:17.840 --> 0:21:20.720 or the next you know job, or the next come 0:21:20.800 --> 0:21:25.040 up or whatever it is. That that's for simple minded 0:21:25.119 --> 0:21:28.520 motherfuckers who are settled with just where I am in 0:21:28.600 --> 0:21:29.040 old way. 0:21:29.240 --> 0:21:33.320 You can't you can't never get content. Man. You know 0:21:33.600 --> 0:21:38.200 one thing I wanted to ask you about. Man, at 0:21:38.200 --> 0:21:41.920 the time you came out here with Ruthless, Man, your 0:21:42.080 --> 0:21:45.880 easy was really up close and personal with y'all. Did 0:21:45.880 --> 0:21:49.200 he ever take you to the house in Norwalk? Man? 0:21:49.200 --> 0:21:50.240 That house is legendary. 0:21:50.320 --> 0:21:53.320 Bro, Hey, man, that house is Nordwalk's. That's where we 0:21:53.400 --> 0:21:56.720 used to go, like he would have other artists come 0:21:56.760 --> 0:21:59.440 out of town. We was big drinkers, like you know 0:21:59.480 --> 0:22:02.280 what I'm saying, And he was like, y'all niggas can't 0:22:02.320 --> 0:22:05.000 drink more than these niggas. We'll tear that nigga house up. 0:22:05.040 --> 0:22:09.359 We being that montherfucker drunk. This nigga got eight k's everywhere. 0:22:08.800 --> 0:22:10.400 Just you know what I mean. 0:22:10.520 --> 0:22:13.840 Yeah, but Northwalk that's where we used to go get 0:22:13.880 --> 0:22:15.120 to do what we wanted to do. 0:22:15.359 --> 0:22:17.320 Yeah, Ralph the Free where was real little key Man 0:22:17.320 --> 0:22:21.320 shout up at the homies skipping twine, big twine, big twine. Yeah, 0:22:21.520 --> 0:22:23.479 they had me over there, man, one time when I 0:22:23.640 --> 0:22:26.639 never saw I never knew that part of time. You know, 0:22:26.760 --> 0:22:31.879 being a Northwalk you don't think, man, all kind of 0:22:31.920 --> 0:22:32.920 bras over there. Man. 0:22:33.160 --> 0:22:34.560 Yeah yeah. 0:22:34.600 --> 0:22:36.480 We used to go over there, man, and just like 0:22:36.560 --> 0:22:40.320 he'll be showing us, that's when I over there. That's 0:22:40.320 --> 0:22:42.720 how we found out he was a prankster too, you 0:22:42.760 --> 0:22:45.680 know what I'm saying. So he would show us video 0:22:45.720 --> 0:22:49.040 tapes of him pranking CPO, and you know what I mean, 0:22:49.119 --> 0:22:51.240 We spent a lot of nights in Norwalk, man. 0:22:51.280 --> 0:22:52.119 That shit was cool. 0:22:55.480 --> 0:22:59.439 Yeah, man, you know what I still think man to 0:22:59.480 --> 0:23:02.399 this day. Man, Not to try to hash up no 0:23:02.480 --> 0:23:06.240 controversy or nothing. I don't think he easy died of age. 0:23:06.840 --> 0:23:09.240 I just don't think he did. I don't believe he did. 0:23:09.320 --> 0:23:11.879 I've had family members that suffer from that disease, you know, 0:23:11.920 --> 0:23:14.080 and forces not a lot of them, but I've seen 0:23:14.119 --> 0:23:16.080 people go through that, man, And you just don't go 0:23:16.160 --> 0:23:19.240 to being diagnoseds for full blown age and they had HIV. 0:23:20.240 --> 0:23:23.400 You know what I'm saying. It was too much about that, man. 0:23:23.600 --> 0:23:26.240 I know one thing in America, we can't put nothing 0:23:26.280 --> 0:23:29.600 past nobody, you know what I'm saying, Like definitely, because 0:23:29.840 --> 0:23:32.280 if they want you up out of there, like I 0:23:32.320 --> 0:23:37.080 still think, you know, tupacin Biggie situation, when as far 0:23:37.119 --> 0:23:40.520 as it did, because that that boy was so politically 0:23:41.440 --> 0:23:44.439 in his mind where he was going, they probably got 0:23:44.560 --> 0:23:46.159 rid of them niggas, you know what I mean. 0:23:46.240 --> 0:23:49.240 They probably know they know how to get rid of you. 0:23:49.240 --> 0:23:49.760 You know what I mean. 0:23:49.800 --> 0:23:53.359 They killed off a whole generation of smart men, from 0:23:53.800 --> 0:23:54.879 Malcolm to Martin. 0:23:55.600 --> 0:23:56.120 You know what I mean. 0:23:56.160 --> 0:23:58.640 You can't put nothing past you. 0:23:58.640 --> 0:23:59.840 You got to watch yourself. 0:24:00.240 --> 0:24:02.159 And when you start talking about the Malcolm in the 0:24:02.160 --> 0:24:03.760 marks man, it ain't nothing for them to touch a 0:24:03.880 --> 0:24:04.640 rapper dog. 0:24:04.640 --> 0:24:05.040 It ain't. 0:24:05.160 --> 0:24:08.320 I mean, they shut the panthers down, you know what 0:24:08.359 --> 0:24:12.440 I'm saying, Like infiltrated us, put crack in our neighborhoods, 0:24:12.440 --> 0:24:15.400 you know what I mean, got our parents all fucked up. 0:24:15.840 --> 0:24:18.280 They ain't God hip hop came along, because we would 0:24:18.359 --> 0:24:19.520 all been fucked up. 0:24:19.960 --> 0:24:22.280 Oh yeah, for sure. Man, it'd have been the real 0:24:22.359 --> 0:24:23.080 bad times. 0:24:23.119 --> 0:24:23.320 Man. 0:24:23.600 --> 0:24:26.320 Can you imagine with no hip hop, well, a lot 0:24:26.400 --> 0:24:27.800 of niggas would be right now. 0:24:27.920 --> 0:24:30.960 Man, Man, we would I know, I wouldn't be here, man, 0:24:31.000 --> 0:24:31.359 It'd be a. 0:24:31.359 --> 0:24:34.119 Whole bunch of people in penitentiary. Dog, Yeah, a whole 0:24:34.119 --> 0:24:35.680 bunch of cats in the graveyard. 0:24:35.760 --> 0:24:38.080 He's a more dead, lot of more dead niggas, a 0:24:38.119 --> 0:24:41.520 lot of more niggas in the pen you know, because 0:24:41.680 --> 0:24:45.639 it gave even though like I said, it's still connected 0:24:46.000 --> 0:24:48.840 niggas with the streets, it gave a lot of niggas 0:24:48.880 --> 0:24:53.439 an opportunity to change their lives as far as uh 0:24:53.720 --> 0:24:57.879 poverty and the kids and you know, being able to 0:24:57.920 --> 0:25:01.000 be around your children. You know, we we grew up 0:25:01.040 --> 0:25:04.160 a lot of single fathers and shit like that, and 0:25:04.280 --> 0:25:06.600 like you said, a lot of dope was introduced and 0:25:06.720 --> 0:25:11.560 all that shit. So we learned a hard way our generation. 0:25:11.640 --> 0:25:13.560 You know, not that our parents then, you know, you 0:25:13.640 --> 0:25:16.880 got slavery and all that shit that our great grandparents 0:25:16.880 --> 0:25:19.280 and all that had to do. But going through the 0:25:19.320 --> 0:25:22.160 gang shit, niggas popping at you and trying to sell 0:25:22.240 --> 0:25:25.800 dope and taking penitentiary chances. We had some fucked up 0:25:25.800 --> 0:25:28.040 shit to go through too that we had to try 0:25:28.080 --> 0:25:29.080 to make it out of. 0:25:29.320 --> 0:25:31.879 You feel me. So hip hop did that for a 0:25:31.880 --> 0:25:32.600 lot of niggas. 0:25:32.640 --> 0:25:35.439 Man, Oh man, I'm gonna tell you something, man, Professional 0:25:35.520 --> 0:25:39.440 athletics and music have been the thing for the black community. 0:25:39.480 --> 0:25:39.640 Man. 0:25:39.680 --> 0:25:41.320 I just want to see a time, man, at where 0:25:41.320 --> 0:25:44.360 we start expanding beyond that. Man, Because like I tell everybody, 0:25:44.359 --> 0:25:46.359 when people talk to me about want to do a podcast, 0:25:46.640 --> 0:25:49.000 I said, why don't you want to become a producer? Like, 0:25:49.119 --> 0:25:50.639 why don't you want to become a person that want 0:25:50.680 --> 0:25:52.320 to learn how to work the cameras, how to edit, 0:25:52.560 --> 0:25:54.760 through all the things. It's too many people doing podcasts. 0:25:54.760 --> 0:25:58.040 The odds of you breaking into that industry, it's almost 0:25:58.080 --> 0:26:01.800 like the new record deal Dog, Definitely, the odds odds 0:26:01.800 --> 0:26:05.480 are very slim. As you ran the label, Dog. It's hard. 0:26:06.600 --> 0:26:09.119 It's hard just just to come up in something, man 0:26:09.160 --> 0:26:10.879 and just make millions of dollars. And I think a 0:26:10.880 --> 0:26:13.480 lot of times, man, when you in places like Cleveland, 0:26:13.920 --> 0:26:16.240 Compton and wats because they all the same places, Dog, 0:26:16.359 --> 0:26:19.040 just different climates. I think it's hard for a kid 0:26:19.080 --> 0:26:20.760 to see that, because a kid to see his mom 0:26:20.840 --> 0:26:23.160 and daddy going to work every day and they still 0:26:23.160 --> 0:26:25.320 don't got nothing. That's not attractive. But you're looking at 0:26:25.359 --> 0:26:28.320 the dope man outside and he got the deep dish 0:26:28.440 --> 0:26:30.600 datings on his ship. Man, he got a pocket full 0:26:30.640 --> 0:26:32.919 of money. Man, he just looked he looked fresh. 0:26:32.960 --> 0:26:35.240 Dog. Oh yeah, you're twelve years old. We used to 0:26:35.280 --> 0:26:38.680 play that's my car, that's my car. Real, that's my car, 0:26:38.880 --> 0:26:39.480 that's my car. 0:26:39.560 --> 0:26:40.600 That should influenced that. 0:26:40.960 --> 0:26:45.040 I mean it influenced a lot of us who felt 0:26:45.119 --> 0:26:49.160 like we wanted a better situation from what we was in. 0:26:49.440 --> 0:26:50.159 You feel me. 0:26:52.880 --> 0:26:57.359 I mean my pops worked, you feel me. He worked 0:26:57.400 --> 0:27:01.040 at General Motors, went to work nine to five or whatever. 0:27:01.920 --> 0:27:06.240 Moms did the same thing. Shit, we we wasn't living 0:27:06.280 --> 0:27:08.800 in no you know, we didn't have no Mercedes bends 0:27:08.840 --> 0:27:12.359 in the driveway. We had an average car. We didn't 0:27:12.400 --> 0:27:18.160 live in motherfucking Beverly Hills or or fucking Baldwin Hills, 0:27:18.280 --> 0:27:21.360 or even fucking Lakewood for that matter. You get me. 0:27:21.760 --> 0:27:25.160 We lived in fucking Compton. Not that Compton was bad, 0:27:25.200 --> 0:27:28.680 because I loved it, but that's what, you know, we 0:27:28.720 --> 0:27:31.679 was faced with. You know what I'm saying. When you 0:27:31.720 --> 0:27:35.000 turn around and you look at the nigga down the street, Goddamn, 0:27:35.000 --> 0:27:39.920 this nig got a brand new motherfucking truck home goddamn Dayton's. 0:27:40.880 --> 0:27:43.320 And wait a minute, the nigga got a lo lo too. 0:27:43.800 --> 0:27:45.960 And then wait a minute, the nigga got this too, 0:27:48.040 --> 0:27:48.720 and that too. 0:27:48.920 --> 0:27:50.879 Last summer he was on the bus man. 0:27:50.920 --> 0:27:52.200 The niggas got motherfucker. 0:27:52.720 --> 0:27:55.000 You you look at that and be like, well, shit, 0:27:55.960 --> 0:27:58.200 you're looking at your parents and you know it. That's 0:27:58.240 --> 0:28:01.640 if if you had that that motherfucker or your hard 0:28:01.720 --> 0:28:04.520 work mentality, you know, you get what you paid you. 0:28:04.520 --> 0:28:05.600 You know that type of shit. 0:28:05.760 --> 0:28:07.680 Tell you somewhere, you looked at the nigga down the 0:28:07.720 --> 0:28:11.160 street who had all this shit, and he was out 0:28:11.200 --> 0:28:12.480 there on the corner pitching. 0:28:13.119 --> 0:28:14.480 That was your influence. 0:28:14.640 --> 0:28:18.199 My influence wasn't to go punch no motherfucking clock like 0:28:18.320 --> 0:28:21.400 I saw moms and pop slavery. They was coming home 0:28:21.440 --> 0:28:23.240 with backs hurting and knees hurt. 0:28:23.240 --> 0:28:25.560 I'm gonna tell you right now, dog, I tell my 0:28:25.720 --> 0:28:29.360 kids and people don't misjudge what I'm about to say, 0:28:29.400 --> 0:28:31.560 because you should take your lazy ass to work to 0:28:31.600 --> 0:28:34.840 provide for your family. But do that while you're building 0:28:34.880 --> 0:28:37.600 towards a dream. I told all my kids, y'all don't 0:28:37.640 --> 0:28:39.560 need to think of getting no jobs. Don't go to school, 0:28:39.680 --> 0:28:42.520 used to get no job because a job it motherfucker 0:28:42.640 --> 0:28:44.800 let you go at any time. That's almost like a 0:28:44.840 --> 0:28:48.920 sucker bed. Almost you work somewhere for all your life. Man. 0:28:49.360 --> 0:28:51.520 And then by the time they tell you can retire 0:28:51.560 --> 0:28:53.800 now to retirement age don't went up two years every 0:28:53.800 --> 0:28:56.000 time every year since I came out of high school. 0:28:56.160 --> 0:28:58.160 You can't retire to you damn in sixty seven to 0:28:58.240 --> 0:29:00.520 seventy now, so you think about it, you can from 0:29:00.520 --> 0:29:03.440 work some motherfucking place for all your life. Dog at seventy, 0:29:03.480 --> 0:29:06.800 you come on for a few years and you die. Yeah, 0:29:07.200 --> 0:29:09.840 while making another motherfucker rich. Now he don't provide it 0:29:09.880 --> 0:29:11.440 for you know, you got a pay check out of 0:29:11.480 --> 0:29:14.280 that dog. But I just always aspired for more. Man, 0:29:14.800 --> 0:29:16.600 I can tell people to find you are telling what 0:29:16.640 --> 0:29:19.040 you're good at. It ain't necessarily gotta beat it, you know, rapper, 0:29:19.120 --> 0:29:21.600 no podcast, no actor or nothing like that. But you 0:29:21.640 --> 0:29:24.200 could beat the nigga that that clean cars, the detailed 0:29:24.200 --> 0:29:27.120 cars real good on your own detailed shop. You can't 0:29:27.160 --> 0:29:28.520 never fire yourself, my nigga. 0:29:29.440 --> 0:29:35.360 Yeah, having that, having that mentality is it's hard for 0:29:35.480 --> 0:29:39.680 a young nigga or a young kid who's eleven or 0:29:39.680 --> 0:29:43.640 twelve coming up in poverty in the struggle. When I'm 0:29:43.680 --> 0:29:46.800 watching the niggas on the block every day and then 0:29:46.840 --> 0:29:50.840 I'm seeing police shit, and I'm seeing niggas get smoked 0:29:50.840 --> 0:29:54.880 who from my block? It changes your mentality, you know 0:29:54.920 --> 0:29:59.160 what I'm saying. You want to strive for, you know, 0:29:59.240 --> 0:30:02.200 something better. But like I tell niggas, you know, as 0:30:02.240 --> 0:30:06.280 a kid, you all you have those dreams you give me. 0:30:06.320 --> 0:30:08.080 When I was a kid, I didn't think I was 0:30:08.080 --> 0:30:12.000 gonna be no rapper, actor, podcast, motherfucker you give me. 0:30:12.440 --> 0:30:14.720 I thought i was gonna be like any other typical kid. 0:30:14.720 --> 0:30:18.480 I'm be a policeman, i'ma be a fireman, I'm be a. 0:30:18.440 --> 0:30:20.720 Doctor, lawyer, whatever. 0:30:20.960 --> 0:30:26.240 And then the more you see poverty kick in, and 0:30:26.360 --> 0:30:30.240 you like, well, shit, I ain't got no new motherfucking 0:30:30.360 --> 0:30:33.760 nikes onn and moms ain't buying me this. And then 0:30:34.040 --> 0:30:37.600 especially if your parents split and now you got single 0:30:37.680 --> 0:30:42.160 moms at home, and now really shit is like low 0:30:42.240 --> 0:30:45.920 income and shit your aspects of like nigga, I ain't 0:30:45.920 --> 0:30:49.959 finna be no motherfucking doctor or lawyer. Shit, I'm barely 0:30:50.000 --> 0:30:52.560 finna make it out. The nigga niggas down the street 0:30:52.680 --> 0:30:56.800 shooting every night. Who says I'm finna make it out here? 0:30:56.800 --> 0:30:59.080 And then next thing you know, you claiming the hood. 0:30:59.480 --> 0:31:02.560 And then you running in with the police every day, Nigga. 0:31:02.600 --> 0:31:05.320 I'm like, nigga, I'm gonna be in prison some fucking well. 0:31:05.440 --> 0:31:07.760 Yeah, And I'm gonna tell you who the influences are now. 0:31:08.160 --> 0:31:11.040 When we was kids, it used to be the dude 0:31:11.080 --> 0:31:13.120 down the block, you know that hustles over with. Now 0:31:13.160 --> 0:31:15.800 that's gone, right, I'm gonna tell you what it is now. 0:31:15.840 --> 0:31:17.960 The rappers that they see on TV, the images that 0:31:18.000 --> 0:31:21.640 these cats portray, And it's real destructive because a lot 0:31:21.680 --> 0:31:23.640 of these rappers don't have the money that they claim, 0:31:23.720 --> 0:31:25.800 especially not the new ones. Just come in the game. 0:31:25.840 --> 0:31:29.360 You've living off of advance, bro, and that jury is 0:31:29.400 --> 0:31:31.280 more than likely rented or you know what I'm saying, 0:31:31.640 --> 0:31:35.920 it's all props, dog. But we project these images man 0:31:36.000 --> 0:31:39.000 to the community. Right. It's almost like dangling the steak 0:31:39.040 --> 0:31:39.960 in front of pit bulls. 0:31:40.040 --> 0:31:40.160 Right. 0:31:40.240 --> 0:31:42.640 So they kids want that now, so they gonna do whatever. 0:31:43.000 --> 0:31:44.760 And the Internet has made it to where any nigga 0:31:44.800 --> 0:31:47.400 can become famous or at least get five minutes of fame. 0:31:47.440 --> 0:31:50.000 Fo a minute you can get attention, right, So you 0:31:50.120 --> 0:31:53.720 got some people, man that's willing to do whatever they 0:31:53.800 --> 0:31:56.360 have to do to get attention. If they gotta go 0:31:56.400 --> 0:31:58.280 in and tell a lie about you or him or 0:31:58.320 --> 0:32:00.840 me or whoever. I like it at all, do it. 0:32:00.920 --> 0:32:02.960 I look at all these people now on the internet. 0:32:03.040 --> 0:32:05.600 I was just saying this ship myself the other day. 0:32:07.360 --> 0:32:11.840 Motherfucker will do anything to just be somebody. Nowadays, you 0:32:12.000 --> 0:32:15.280 get me. You see everybody going, uh, what do they 0:32:15.320 --> 0:32:20.200 call themselves now? Content creat What the fuck is that? 0:32:20.520 --> 0:32:23.760 And then half the motherfuckers who call themselves content creators 0:32:23.840 --> 0:32:28.080 ain't doing nothing but walking around showing themselves. And I'll 0:32:28.120 --> 0:32:32.960 be like, mofucker will do anything today. 0:32:33.280 --> 0:32:35.680 Tell the lies about somebody else telling lies. 0:32:35.720 --> 0:32:38.400 And I'm gonna eat some shit, I'm gonna wear some shit. 0:32:38.760 --> 0:32:41.280 I'm gonna get on here like there's so many people 0:32:41.280 --> 0:32:44.120 that just get on the internet just act foods and 0:32:44.160 --> 0:32:47.280 ship for attention. You get me like, man, I'm I'm 0:32:47.320 --> 0:32:51.280 I'm a fucking I'm i'ma I'm gonna feel me and 0:32:51.320 --> 0:32:56.280 my husband in the bathroom getting dressed and pulling pranks 0:32:56.320 --> 0:32:56.880 on each other. 0:32:57.080 --> 0:33:00.560 I saw I saw bro not to cut you, but 0:33:00.600 --> 0:33:02.840 I saw broad Man. They said, this chick make a 0:33:02.880 --> 0:33:05.760 million dollars a month. Let niggas watch her sleep. 0:33:07.440 --> 0:33:10.680 It's just like everybody wants to be like. 0:33:11.280 --> 0:33:13.880 I ain't man at that dog. Everybody wants to. 0:33:13.840 --> 0:33:16.920 Be famous today, man, or be somebody like you you 0:33:16.960 --> 0:33:20.600 don't have. You don't hear too many motherfuckers like oh, 0:33:20.720 --> 0:33:24.479 I want to become a teacher or an educator, or 0:33:24.520 --> 0:33:27.200 I want to become a motherfucking lawyer, or I want 0:33:27.240 --> 0:33:32.760 to be Everybody wants to be a YouTube content creating 0:33:33.000 --> 0:33:34.720 sensation nowadays. 0:33:35.280 --> 0:33:35.720 Get me. 0:33:35.840 --> 0:33:39.160 I think I think, man, I think it's just it's 0:33:39.200 --> 0:33:42.280 everything changed, like because I think back when I was 0:33:42.720 --> 0:33:45.400 a kid aspiring to be a rapper, you know what 0:33:45.440 --> 0:33:50.560 I mean. Like today it seemed like the main primary 0:33:50.920 --> 0:33:54.480 reason why niggas want to rap it is to be famous. 0:33:55.800 --> 0:33:58.760 It's to be seen, even more than get the money 0:33:58.800 --> 0:34:01.160 to move to mama out the house, to you know, 0:34:01.240 --> 0:34:04.239 to take care of the family. It's like niggas just 0:34:04.880 --> 0:34:08.440 need to be seen more. Like when I was growing up, 0:34:08.480 --> 0:34:11.320 it was like, Okay, I want to be the best rapper. 0:34:11.680 --> 0:34:13.680 You want to have skills, you want to be able 0:34:13.680 --> 0:34:15.759 to tell stories, you know what I'm saying. Like you 0:34:15.800 --> 0:34:22.120 wanted like being a rapper was it was being somebody. 0:34:22.120 --> 0:34:25.120 It was like it was like a tool that got 0:34:25.160 --> 0:34:26.520 you out of the hood. 0:34:26.360 --> 0:34:29.160 Now, like you know, we wanted we wanted. 0:34:28.880 --> 0:34:32.480 To rap, to get out, to take care of moms, 0:34:32.560 --> 0:34:33.920 to to get out. 0:34:33.760 --> 0:34:36.080 The motherfucking hood period. 0:34:36.480 --> 0:34:39.319 Now niggas want to rap and go straight back to 0:34:39.360 --> 0:34:39.800 the hood. 0:34:40.200 --> 0:34:42.680 You know what I mean. It's like or they put 0:34:42.760 --> 0:34:43.759 on for the hood. 0:34:43.920 --> 0:34:45.960 You know what I'm saying, Like it ain't it's it's 0:34:46.000 --> 0:34:48.960 not a real purpose in being an entertainer no more. 0:34:49.000 --> 0:34:52.480 It's like like you said, they just want to be seen. 0:34:52.640 --> 0:34:52.840 You know. 0:34:53.600 --> 0:34:56.160 Still, as a kid, what did you inspire to be? 0:34:56.880 --> 0:34:59.600 Man as a kid, You know what, Brake, I'm sure 0:34:59.800 --> 0:35:03.400 it wasn't like I'm gonna be producing hip hop records 0:35:03.480 --> 0:35:05.000 or I'm gonna be a podcast. 0:35:05.440 --> 0:35:08.560 No, that you inspire to be as a child. 0:35:08.840 --> 0:35:10.279 You know what I wanted to be when I was 0:35:10.280 --> 0:35:12.120 a little kid, Man, I used to be able to 0:35:12.200 --> 0:35:15.080 draw really good. Okay, I wanted to do cartoons when 0:35:15.120 --> 0:35:17.040 I was a little kid. I really want to do 0:35:17.320 --> 0:35:19.239 I want to do that all the way up into 0:35:19.280 --> 0:35:22.680 college until I saw how much, especially the technology wasn't 0:35:22.719 --> 0:35:25.360 like it is today. You know, in order for you 0:35:25.400 --> 0:35:27.400 to get in the cartoon work, man, you had to 0:35:27.440 --> 0:35:29.360 go to four or five different schools, Like when you 0:35:29.400 --> 0:35:31.520 get your backs threat, you got to go off here 0:35:31.520 --> 0:35:33.520 and learn something. You might have to fly off here 0:35:33.800 --> 0:35:36.120 to China or Japan for a year, learn to do this, 0:35:36.160 --> 0:35:37.560 depending on what you want to do, you know what 0:35:37.600 --> 0:35:40.720 I mean. But I wanted to really be an artist. 0:35:40.719 --> 0:35:40.919 Dog. 0:35:40.960 --> 0:35:43.000 I always like lean toward the arts, you know what 0:35:43.000 --> 0:35:47.040 I mean. But I never had even though I played football, 0:35:47.080 --> 0:35:50.200 I never really had aspirations on being a professional athlete, 0:35:50.239 --> 0:35:52.920 so to speak. I just always especially back then, because 0:35:53.440 --> 0:35:55.640 believe it or not, football players just getting the way 0:35:55.640 --> 0:35:57.879 they're making good money. Back then, when I was coming out, 0:35:57.920 --> 0:36:01.120 I think the league minimum one hundred thousand a year. 0:36:01.719 --> 0:36:04.000 I knew motherfuckers that was getting jobs that was better 0:36:04.000 --> 0:36:06.640 than that. And I always thought about the financial aspect. 0:36:06.760 --> 0:36:08.959 My knees was hurting and back hurting all the time. 0:36:09.400 --> 0:36:11.759 I was like, man for one hundred dollars, man getting 0:36:11.800 --> 0:36:12.919 whacked on FO one hundred thousand. 0:36:12.960 --> 0:36:16.680 I got me fucked up. It wasn't ready for the turches, 0:36:16.800 --> 0:36:19.799 Oh no, man, And I was really good. I was good. 0:36:19.880 --> 0:36:23.040 I wanted to play baseball, man. I wanted to play. 0:36:22.760 --> 0:36:27.800 Baseball like nine eight seven eight nine, and I wanted 0:36:27.840 --> 0:36:31.040 I wanted to be. I wanted to be Michael Jackson. Okay, 0:36:31.239 --> 0:36:34.000 you know what I'm saying. I wanted to be him. 0:36:34.239 --> 0:36:37.040 Then I wanted to be Ll cool J, you know 0:36:37.040 --> 0:36:37.480 what I mean. 0:36:37.560 --> 0:36:40.840 And then when I started getting like I really start 0:36:40.920 --> 0:36:44.000 selling dope and I caught a couple of cases, I 0:36:44.040 --> 0:36:46.600 wanted to be a lawyer, know what I'm saying. 0:36:46.680 --> 0:36:49.759 So you know, life delped me what it dept me. 0:36:49.840 --> 0:36:53.840 But I did aspire to do other things besides music, 0:36:53.920 --> 0:36:58.239 you know, sports music. I aspired for that, but I 0:36:58.320 --> 0:37:01.239 knew if all that would failed, I probably would have 0:37:01.280 --> 0:37:02.720 became an attorney or something. 0:37:03.440 --> 0:37:07.000 It's like it's like the youth now, like they and 0:37:07.400 --> 0:37:09.480 like you said, I don't be a mo fucking rapper, 0:37:09.560 --> 0:37:15.160 niggah artist, fucking baseball player, fucking you know what I'm saying. 0:37:15.840 --> 0:37:17.080 I want to be a rapper. 0:37:17.120 --> 0:37:20.160 I think that is why when I had my son, 0:37:21.680 --> 0:37:26.680 I pushed for something else he because already knew that 0:37:26.840 --> 0:37:30.879 rap bug on hit him, especially with the artists that 0:37:30.920 --> 0:37:34.120 they have today and his generation and the youth, and 0:37:34.600 --> 0:37:38.320 you know, you got the eighteen nineteen year old motherfuckers 0:37:38.600 --> 0:37:41.760 riding around and the Rods Royces and all this shit 0:37:42.280 --> 0:37:44.759 that was gonna influence him if he saw that shit 0:37:44.840 --> 0:37:49.759 every day, so automatically, it was like, nah, nigga were 0:37:49.760 --> 0:37:53.239 getting outside you nigga from from the age of three 0:37:53.360 --> 0:37:56.440 years old until I could stick it in your brain. 0:37:56.640 --> 0:38:00.200 You give me, it's gonna be something else besides. And 0:38:00.360 --> 0:38:03.040 he used to detour a little bit. Hey Dad, you 0:38:03.120 --> 0:38:05.480 think I can? And how do you do this? And 0:38:05.560 --> 0:38:07.600 how do you do that? Work the microphone? Because I 0:38:07.640 --> 0:38:09.799 used to have my equipment set up. How do you 0:38:09.840 --> 0:38:10.799 work the microphone? 0:38:10.840 --> 0:38:11.120 Nigga. 0:38:11.120 --> 0:38:14.560 I took all that shit down because I didn't want 0:38:14.800 --> 0:38:18.799 him to get influenced by this shit that I know 0:38:19.280 --> 0:38:23.040 is a fucking headache and it's a roller coaster you get. 0:38:22.880 --> 0:38:25.320 Man, every cat I know, Man, it's in the business. 0:38:25.360 --> 0:38:29.000 Man in any park. They discouraged their kids. My son, Man, 0:38:29.040 --> 0:38:32.520 he played professional football, right, but it seemed like he 0:38:32.680 --> 0:38:35.520 more interested in going into the music industry. And here 0:38:35.560 --> 0:38:39.000 I'm like, man, you playing professional football. Lead that stuff alone, man. 0:38:39.640 --> 0:38:41.120 And I finally told him, if you can work in 0:38:41.120 --> 0:38:42.680 the industry, you can get a real job. So I 0:38:42.760 --> 0:38:44.160 hook them up with my boy that was up in 0:38:44.160 --> 0:38:46.520 the Universal building. I said, you not doing all this 0:38:47.040 --> 0:38:49.160 trying to go develop an artists and find you mess 0:38:49.160 --> 0:38:52.239 around and lose every penny you got, man, exactly, you 0:38:52.360 --> 0:38:55.279 fucking around because it's hard, man, it's not, no guarantees. 0:38:55.719 --> 0:38:58.239 Yeah, I pulled my kids into this shit early that, 0:38:58.400 --> 0:39:01.760 but that was me out here thriveing having him so young, 0:39:01.920 --> 0:39:04.719 you know what I'm saying, out here thriving doing having 0:39:04.800 --> 0:39:09.600 him everywhere I was. So you know, now my oldest son, 0:39:09.680 --> 0:39:12.439 like my younger sons, they want it. They love his shit, 0:39:12.600 --> 0:39:14.640 you know, my oldest son, and he won't it. They 0:39:14.719 --> 0:39:18.000 love it too. But he was around it so much 0:39:18.040 --> 0:39:21.640 as a kid that he shy away from it sometimes. 0:39:21.680 --> 0:39:24.080 And like now, you know, he do his trade. 0:39:23.719 --> 0:39:27.360 And you know, different things that he do, educate hisself. 0:39:27.480 --> 0:39:28.880 Like you know what I'm saying. 0:39:28.960 --> 0:39:33.360 So I think when you put him in they're too young, 0:39:33.960 --> 0:39:36.080 they gonna kind of bag up from it. 0:39:36.360 --> 0:39:36.760 Anyway. 0:39:36.840 --> 0:39:40.239 It it'll burn you out, especially with the transition of 0:39:40.239 --> 0:39:45.360 how shit going today. That's why I say, as a kid, 0:39:45.800 --> 0:39:50.520 you gotta have some you know, some other solid inspirations, 0:39:50.600 --> 0:39:52.640 you know what I'm saying, to want to become you 0:39:52.680 --> 0:39:55.880 know what I'm saying. And no disrespect to the talent 0:39:56.000 --> 0:39:59.560 and people who you know, chasing that dream. I just 0:39:59.600 --> 0:40:03.279 feel like with the way it is right now, like 0:40:03.360 --> 0:40:08.879 I said, kids should be inspired to become something other 0:40:08.960 --> 0:40:12.520 than the next hip hop star or the next whatever. 0:40:12.600 --> 0:40:15.040 You know what I'm saying, get you some kind of 0:40:15.239 --> 0:40:20.040 education to where when this shit starts nagging you, you 0:40:20.160 --> 0:40:23.200 got something else to fall back on besides trying to 0:40:23.239 --> 0:40:25.799 be the next Oh well, shit, I gotta be a 0:40:25.840 --> 0:40:29.400 content creator, or I gotta I gotta start a only 0:40:29.560 --> 0:40:31.800 fans or I gotta you know, well. 0:40:31.680 --> 0:40:34.319 From what I see today, bro, my only problem is 0:40:34.320 --> 0:40:36.680 that if now, if a kid got talent, Man, if 0:40:36.680 --> 0:40:39.880 a kid is talented, and a lot of times the 0:40:39.920 --> 0:40:42.520 apple do fall for far, don't fall far from the tree. 0:40:42.560 --> 0:40:44.439 You know. Sometimes if a niggas he don't been seeing 0:40:44.480 --> 0:40:46.759 his daddy raps since he's been in the crib, he 0:40:46.880 --> 0:40:49.880 go more than likely possess some kind of lyrical tenacity, 0:40:49.960 --> 0:40:52.960 you feel what I'm saying. But at the same time. 0:40:52.960 --> 0:40:54.480 Is he gonna have the Southern success? 0:40:54.640 --> 0:40:57.080 Is he gonna have the same success and now today 0:40:57.120 --> 0:41:00.640 to become a rapper dog? It's about every thing that's 0:41:00.680 --> 0:41:03.719 outside of music that's go Actually get the motherfucker to 0:41:03.760 --> 0:41:06.040 invest some money into you. So now you got the 0:41:06.040 --> 0:41:09.520 girls that's out there doing whatever. They just doing whatever. 0:41:09.560 --> 0:41:12.000 They trying to outdo each other. They saying the craziest 0:41:12.000 --> 0:41:14.200 stuff ever on records now and I don't I know, 0:41:14.200 --> 0:41:15.680 we've been on that lately, so I don't want to 0:41:15.719 --> 0:41:18.279 go back on that tarbet, But it just seemed like 0:41:18.360 --> 0:41:20.840 to me that they almost It's like these little niggas 0:41:20.840 --> 0:41:23.120 aspire to almost go to prison, my nigga. It's like 0:41:23.160 --> 0:41:25.040 they get on like you see a cat like young 0:41:25.080 --> 0:41:27.839 thug that's making all the money he was making. Now 0:41:27.880 --> 0:41:30.120 he in this situation man, where this man might be 0:41:30.120 --> 0:41:32.680 in jail for the rest of his life. It's like, okay, 0:41:32.719 --> 0:41:35.000 so you struggled to get here only to go back 0:41:35.040 --> 0:41:36.880 to here to become worse, my nigga. 0:41:37.000 --> 0:41:38.840 So I believe, I believe that. 0:41:39.120 --> 0:41:43.720 I believe that the the artists, you know what I'm saying, 0:41:43.880 --> 0:41:49.440 like these days, the artist is uh, it's changed. Tanning 0:41:49.520 --> 0:41:52.040 alone ain't just gonna get it. You can be the 0:41:52.120 --> 0:41:55.080 dopest nigga, you know what I mean. It's probably ten. 0:41:55.440 --> 0:41:58.839 It was probably ten Jordan's on the playground. But why 0:41:58.880 --> 0:42:03.239 that only one make it? Because he knew he understood 0:42:03.280 --> 0:42:06.239 his books he knew with his schooling. You know what 0:42:06.239 --> 0:42:09.000 I'm so, Now, I feel like you have to have 0:42:09.040 --> 0:42:12.680 a business, some type of business degree if you're gonna 0:42:12.680 --> 0:42:14.960 be a rapper. So you know what I'm saying. You 0:42:15.000 --> 0:42:17.759 need to take accounting. You know what I'm saying, Like 0:42:17.840 --> 0:42:21.280 all these a rapper now, it ain't just us putting 0:42:21.360 --> 0:42:24.560 words on paper. You gotta run a whole full business. 0:42:25.040 --> 0:42:27.120 So you just coming to the mic because you could 0:42:27.160 --> 0:42:31.359 spit that don't mean nothing. Everybody rap? So but can 0:42:31.400 --> 0:42:33.680 you manage your career? You know what I'm saying, Like 0:42:34.160 --> 0:42:37.960 I manage myself. I've been managing myself, but I've been 0:42:38.360 --> 0:42:42.440 reading my own contracts. You gotta understand the wearing tools, 0:42:42.520 --> 0:42:46.160 the FOI and withs and the hearing tools in your contracts. 0:42:46.239 --> 0:42:48.080 And you gotta. 0:42:47.880 --> 0:42:51.320 Be able to dissect your contract. Okay, you like your clothes? 0:42:51.400 --> 0:42:52.640 Your brand? Now? 0:42:53.400 --> 0:42:56.200 Now, a rapper is a brand, you know what I'm saying. 0:42:56.280 --> 0:42:58.880 So how do you manage that brand? If you can't, 0:42:59.320 --> 0:43:02.960 If you don't under standing different aspects of your shows, 0:43:02.640 --> 0:43:06.200 of your lawyers, if you don't know how to deal 0:43:06.239 --> 0:43:09.840 with every aspect of your business, then you're not gonna 0:43:09.840 --> 0:43:12.040 make it in this you might get a one hit song, 0:43:12.440 --> 0:43:13.640 but you ain't gonna last. 0:43:13.880 --> 0:43:16.040 And even if you do have a team some kind 0:43:16.040 --> 0:43:19.560 of success, you gona be everything gonna be gone by 0:43:19.560 --> 0:43:21.520 the time you done. You ain't gonna have no money. 0:43:21.640 --> 0:43:23.360 Because if you don't have a team. You know what 0:43:23.400 --> 0:43:24.239 I'm saying, if you. 0:43:24.280 --> 0:43:26.279 Take age, I don't know, if you don't know it, 0:43:26.719 --> 0:43:28.480 that team will rob the shit out you. 0:43:28.600 --> 0:43:32.320 Oh for sure. This man right here is the primary 0:43:32.360 --> 0:43:33.040 example of that. 0:43:33.120 --> 0:43:34.000 Yeah, I've been robbed. 0:43:34.080 --> 0:43:36.120 I've been shook down to my socks, you know what 0:43:36.160 --> 0:43:40.520 I'm saying. Like, so I'm I'm really speaking from experience, you. 0:43:40.480 --> 0:43:43.200 Know what I mean, Like had it all came in. 0:43:43.200 --> 0:43:47.279 First checked eighty thousand dollars, blew that, you know what 0:43:47.280 --> 0:43:50.640 I mean? When did shit that wasn't that was easy 0:43:50.640 --> 0:43:53.279 to blow? You know what I'm saying. But we all 0:43:53.360 --> 0:43:56.520 did that because we had you know. But over time 0:43:56.640 --> 0:43:59.640 I learned this. But now I feel like if an artist, 0:43:59.680 --> 0:44:01.680 like when I'm looking at artists, like I know, a 0:44:01.680 --> 0:44:04.440 couple of dope ass niggas get on the mic and 0:44:04.560 --> 0:44:08.520 kill it. Dumb as rocks though, you know what I'm saying, Like, nigga, 0:44:08.520 --> 0:44:11.960 you go, you going straight to jail. I'm not feeling 0:44:12.080 --> 0:44:15.319 you a liability, right, you know what I'm saying. So like, 0:44:15.560 --> 0:44:18.920 that's how if somebody gonna put some money behind you, 0:44:19.160 --> 0:44:22.880 they need to see other than you just raping. They 0:44:22.920 --> 0:44:25.960 need to know that, you know, you're wise enough to 0:44:26.080 --> 0:44:28.920 control whatever that investment is. 0:44:28.960 --> 0:44:29.120 You know. 0:44:33.000 --> 0:44:35.200 So let me ask you this bro coming from the 0:44:35.239 --> 0:44:39.560 place we come from. Man, y'all established more thug records, man, 0:44:39.880 --> 0:44:41.560 and y'all put a lot of people from the city on. 0:44:42.280 --> 0:44:45.600 You know how many people was mad at you that 0:44:45.680 --> 0:44:47.680 you didn't put them on because you can't. You can't 0:44:47.680 --> 0:44:49.000 put the whole neighborhood on. 0:44:49.880 --> 0:44:52.919 I mean, niggas was mad period, you know what I'm saying. 0:44:52.920 --> 0:44:58.640 Even the ones put on put a couple the worst 0:44:58.680 --> 0:45:01.040 thousands of dollars in the pockets, you know, and then 0:45:01.080 --> 0:45:04.000 they mismanaged their money and do they you know, spent 0:45:04.120 --> 0:45:06.360 their ship how they spent it. But now and now 0:45:07.080 --> 0:45:09.680 you know, you try, you try to do something helpful, 0:45:10.200 --> 0:45:15.200 and here it is, it's a hinderance to you because 0:45:15.239 --> 0:45:18.439 you don't put an uneducated person on that went blew. 0:45:18.520 --> 0:45:20.800 They shit and now it's your fault. 0:45:20.840 --> 0:45:22.759 And and they don't understand they have to pay that 0:45:22.880 --> 0:45:24.440 money back you initially. 0:45:24.040 --> 0:45:26.320 Gave them, right, Yeah, that exactly. 0:45:25.920 --> 0:45:28.479 And a lot of a lot of them records y'all 0:45:28.520 --> 0:45:31.080 was putting out. Man was going gold and platinum because 0:45:31.320 --> 0:45:35.040 they it feature gold and platinum. People prominently on them 0:45:35.080 --> 0:45:37.680 albums like y'all really got behind them, Martis, y'all used 0:45:37.680 --> 0:45:39.400 to throw them out there. Y'all was on every record 0:45:39.480 --> 0:45:39.919 down there. 0:45:40.000 --> 0:45:43.000 Yeah, I mean one way bus tickets from Cleveland, Ohio 0:45:43.040 --> 0:45:45.480 out here, living homeless out here, you know what I mean? 0:45:45.560 --> 0:45:48.279 That was the sacrifice, you know what I mean? Like 0:45:48.680 --> 0:45:52.879 niggas didn't understand that we made that sacrifice for them, right, 0:45:52.920 --> 0:45:55.160 you know what I mean, three day bus ride, not 0:45:55.320 --> 0:45:57.959 knowing what you're gonna eat or who you gonna stay 0:45:58.040 --> 0:46:00.640 or what you know what I'm saying, Or that was 0:46:00.920 --> 0:46:03.439 they didn't have to do that. I opened the door 0:46:03.440 --> 0:46:05.680 and let them in, you know what I'm saying. Like 0:46:05.719 --> 0:46:10.000 a couple of my artists still thriving off what they 0:46:10.040 --> 0:46:13.480 got from me. A couple of my artists still blaming 0:46:13.520 --> 0:46:16.080 me for what they didn't do right twenty years ago, 0:46:16.800 --> 0:46:19.399 you know what I mean. But you gotta look at 0:46:19.400 --> 0:46:22.640 the man in the mirror. I mismanaged my money. I 0:46:22.640 --> 0:46:25.319 ain't blame nobody. I just got back on my shit 0:46:25.400 --> 0:46:31.160 and became quiet and went and studied, you know what 0:46:31.200 --> 0:46:33.040 I mean, Because I ain't want to be the nigga 0:46:33.040 --> 0:46:35.640 on but what happened to you dog used to be 0:46:35.719 --> 0:46:37.960 the man. I ain't want to be that nigga, you 0:46:38.040 --> 0:46:40.400 know what I'm saying. So I had to learn from myself. 0:46:40.480 --> 0:46:45.600 So these artists. You put these artists on a lot 0:46:45.640 --> 0:46:48.920 of times, it don't be worth it because if you're 0:46:48.960 --> 0:46:53.400 not a well rounded individual, you're not gonna sustain this shit. 0:46:53.680 --> 0:46:56.520 And sometimes it ain't fun to put on. People gonna 0:46:56.520 --> 0:46:58.160 blame you, definitely. 0:46:59.120 --> 0:47:02.120 I was just saying that everybody's not probably gonna be 0:47:02.200 --> 0:47:04.920 as successful as you know. 0:47:05.320 --> 0:47:06.480 I mean not to mean. 0:47:06.360 --> 0:47:09.080 That we're not gonna work and try and do what 0:47:09.120 --> 0:47:16.200 we gotta do, but averages, you might not sell ten 0:47:16.239 --> 0:47:20.279 million albums, you might not sell one million albums. Your 0:47:20.280 --> 0:47:25.560 ship might come out, might do sixty thousand copies. People 0:47:25.600 --> 0:47:28.239 work mysteriously like that when they come to music. You 0:47:28.280 --> 0:47:30.400 know what I'm saying. I could like this motherfucker, not 0:47:30.600 --> 0:47:35.560 like that motherfucker. No disrespect, you get me, But I 0:47:35.560 --> 0:47:37.400 don't like that shit as much as I like this, 0:47:37.640 --> 0:47:42.919 So that's just that's just people's flavor, man, And it's 0:47:43.040 --> 0:47:46.520 unfortunate that you know, you might consider a motherfucker the 0:47:46.640 --> 0:47:49.280 friend or the homie that you're trying to put on 0:47:49.760 --> 0:47:53.359 because you believe in their talent. And but I can't 0:47:53.360 --> 0:47:54.960 make a motherfucker by your record. 0:47:55.040 --> 0:47:55.239 Man. 0:47:55.680 --> 0:47:56.239 You get me. 0:47:56.600 --> 0:47:59.480 I can only talk to the radio so much and 0:47:59.560 --> 0:48:01.799 be like, hey, man, play this for me, play this 0:48:01.920 --> 0:48:06.880 for me. But at the end of the day, cost effective. 0:48:07.280 --> 0:48:10.000 You know what I'm saying. I can't do for you 0:48:10.440 --> 0:48:15.000 what easy and ruthless did for me. You get me 0:48:15.480 --> 0:48:19.400 as I'm a try. You get me. That's my whole intent. 0:48:19.880 --> 0:48:23.560 But let's face it, this this rap game, man is 0:48:23.600 --> 0:48:25.320 That's why I say, Man, I did not want to 0:48:25.400 --> 0:48:29.200 encourage my son to go into this shit. Who says 0:48:29.239 --> 0:48:33.400 you're gonna have a success I did. I'd be loved 0:48:33.560 --> 0:48:35.480 if you was able to shit, if you was able 0:48:35.520 --> 0:48:37.560 to climb up over me, I'd be. 0:48:37.719 --> 0:48:40.400 Very proud, Like, Okay, good great. 0:48:40.719 --> 0:48:43.120 You know what I'm saying, all the hard work and 0:48:43.200 --> 0:48:47.160 determination paying at good great. But then what happens when 0:48:47.160 --> 0:48:50.680 you put a motherfucker record out and he sell twenty copies. 0:48:50.920 --> 0:48:51.839 Right, you get me. 0:48:51.960 --> 0:48:54.200 Whisky very well happening with this dream and shit, I 0:48:54.239 --> 0:48:58.040 don't understand how that work anyway. But going back to 0:48:58.120 --> 0:49:01.880 your going back to your you know, contract stuff and everything. 0:49:03.200 --> 0:49:06.080 A lot of artists say they first deal was unfair. 0:49:06.280 --> 0:49:08.160 I agree with that in some ways, but then in 0:49:08.160 --> 0:49:10.759 some ways I don't because somebody has invested some money 0:49:10.760 --> 0:49:12.919 and you because they don't usually come back and say 0:49:12.920 --> 0:49:15.840 nothing about the dudes to fail. Most acts, the record 0:49:15.840 --> 0:49:18.520 company sign their failures. I think it's something only maybe 0:49:18.840 --> 0:49:21.000 one out of every five actually work out, you know 0:49:21.040 --> 0:49:22.960 what I mean? They got more failures in the buildings, 0:49:23.000 --> 0:49:26.040 so they kind of got a overtext the one that 0:49:26.160 --> 0:49:30.520 does that do make it now? Usually after you sacrifice 0:49:30.520 --> 0:49:33.160 that first album kind of and you sell some records, 0:49:33.160 --> 0:49:35.480 you start getting a lot more leverage. But now you're 0:49:35.480 --> 0:49:40.240 a bankable artist, right, did y'all you guys? I assume 0:49:40.320 --> 0:49:43.160 y'all contract situation after y'all put out East nineteen ainety 0:49:43.200 --> 0:49:44.799 nine a termal, I'm pretty sure they went back to 0:49:44.800 --> 0:49:46.799 the drawing board with y'all and figured out some other shit. 0:49:46.880 --> 0:49:47.040 Huh. 0:49:47.239 --> 0:49:49.359 We went back to the drawing boards soon as I 0:49:49.400 --> 0:49:52.719 heard platinum, Like I was on that, you know, I 0:49:52.760 --> 0:49:55.359 mean because our deal wasn't the greatest, but you know 0:49:55.440 --> 0:49:56.120 back then. 0:49:56.400 --> 0:49:58.840 Whose deal was hell nobody. 0:49:59.000 --> 0:50:02.000 He was like, I'm gonna give y'all a better deal 0:50:02.080 --> 0:50:05.359 than the dog pound. He like, they getting eight points. 0:50:05.600 --> 0:50:07.040 I'm like, what the fuck is a point? 0:50:08.760 --> 0:50:11.719 You're covering from where I'm coming from, lazy, Like, what 0:50:11.760 --> 0:50:12.720 the fuck is the point? 0:50:12.920 --> 0:50:13.000 Like? 0:50:13.440 --> 0:50:15.160 How much is that the dollar size? 0:50:15.239 --> 0:50:17.440 I a point? 0:50:17.560 --> 0:50:17.680 Like? 0:50:17.840 --> 0:50:20.319 He was like, I'm gonna give y'all twelve points. So 0:50:20.400 --> 0:50:22.719 I'm like, I'm trying to figure out what this point is. 0:50:22.760 --> 0:50:28.680 So I'm like, okay, twelve percent of a hundred. Yeah, 0:50:28.719 --> 0:50:30.920 that shit wasn't cool. But he put the money up, 0:50:31.000 --> 0:50:33.840 he put the videos up, and I had to explain 0:50:33.920 --> 0:50:35.880 to my niggas, like, man, we need to get in 0:50:35.960 --> 0:50:39.000 the door because I already knew because I had it. 0:50:39.160 --> 0:50:42.680 I had a situation in Cleveland that we had. I 0:50:42.719 --> 0:50:48.120 had got fucked in the contract because the first album 0:50:48.120 --> 0:50:50.080 we did was called Faces to Death. It was a 0:50:50.080 --> 0:50:57.160 Cleveland local project, Dolls rep creation Hermy Henderson slew Foot 0:50:57.239 --> 0:50:58.400 fuck face bitch. 0:50:58.239 --> 0:51:02.759 As he Yeah, why do we all got what? 0:51:04.840 --> 0:51:05.080 Yeah? 0:51:07.680 --> 0:51:11.320 I was sixteen, you know what I'm saying. So I'm thinking, 0:51:11.320 --> 0:51:14.480 I'm getting a record deal. This nigga signed us to 0:51:14.560 --> 0:51:18.600 a management deal. We give him a whole album. Still, 0:51:18.800 --> 0:51:20.920 I could still sue this dude to this day, but 0:51:20.960 --> 0:51:23.360 it ain't worth it because I don't like the karma 0:51:23.640 --> 0:51:26.520 he got to deal with that. But you know, he 0:51:27.200 --> 0:51:32.280 as a kid, I was already tricked, So I already 0:51:32.320 --> 0:51:34.920 knew when we got to E like, I knew what 0:51:35.040 --> 0:51:38.719 a renegotiation was. So I'm like soon as and then 0:51:38.760 --> 0:51:41.640 when I heard we was platinum, boom. So we went 0:51:41.680 --> 0:51:45.239 from a sixteen a twelve point deal to a sixteen 0:51:45.360 --> 0:51:49.319 point deal, from sixteen to an eighteen, from eighteen to 0:51:49.400 --> 0:51:52.160 a twenty two. By the time we left Ruthless, we 0:51:52.160 --> 0:51:54.760 was fifty to fifty with them, you know what I'm saying. 0:51:54.840 --> 0:51:59.319 So it worked out for me. Busy didn't see it 0:51:59.360 --> 0:52:01.480 the same way I saw it, you know what I mean. 0:52:02.200 --> 0:52:06.040 The rest of us saw it like, Okay, we establishing 0:52:06.120 --> 0:52:09.600 some now, we built some now, you know, And we 0:52:09.640 --> 0:52:12.480 was cut from that easy eat cloth. So it was 0:52:12.520 --> 0:52:17.279 like the doors that was open for us was unlimited, 0:52:17.440 --> 0:52:19.840 you know what I mean. So that was the reason 0:52:19.880 --> 0:52:22.560 why we went in and we was we signed the 0:52:22.560 --> 0:52:25.000 first contract because you got to get in the door. 0:52:25.080 --> 0:52:25.200 Man. 0:52:25.280 --> 0:52:28.719 Once you get past the gate, the gatekeepers, then you 0:52:28.760 --> 0:52:31.520 can probably, you know, you can construct your world the 0:52:31.520 --> 0:52:34.000 way fit now. 0:52:34.120 --> 0:52:36.759 Y'all having so many people in the group, man, how 0:52:36.800 --> 0:52:40.160 hard was that negotiating, man, because you pretty much got 0:52:40.200 --> 0:52:42.239 to have everybody in the Greens for it to be 0:52:42.320 --> 0:52:43.560 popping right right. 0:52:43.600 --> 0:52:45.960 So, you know, we used to have this thing called 0:52:47.440 --> 0:52:50.720 majority rule. It's five of us, you know what I'm saying, 0:52:50.760 --> 0:52:53.640 So if three niggas was down, then the. 0:52:53.600 --> 0:52:54.879 Other two had the roll. 0:52:55.840 --> 0:52:58.480 We lost that along the way, you know what I'm saying, 0:52:58.600 --> 0:53:01.279 because once every Aldy got money, it was like, now 0:53:01.320 --> 0:53:03.279 I'm gonna do what I want to do, you know 0:53:03.320 --> 0:53:07.279 what I mean. But in the beginning, our little democracy 0:53:07.320 --> 0:53:12.840 was we're gonna vote if it's three to two, you know, George, 0:53:12.880 --> 0:53:14.000 the majority rule. 0:53:14.400 --> 0:53:15.960 And that's how we was able. 0:53:15.719 --> 0:53:19.319 To keep going without standing there and just you know, 0:53:19.400 --> 0:53:23.440 and fighting, fighting, fighting and being stagnant. We didn't have 0:53:23.560 --> 0:53:27.120 to become stagnant because we had an uneven number in 0:53:27.160 --> 0:53:29.000 our group, you know what I mean, So it always 0:53:29.120 --> 0:53:30.240 kept the ball rolling. 0:53:30.560 --> 0:53:32.560 That work. Man, It had been cool if y'all could 0:53:32.600 --> 0:53:35.520 have saw that, man, because I'm not gonna lie and 0:53:35.560 --> 0:53:39.799 I ain't saying this is no Cleveland stand But when 0:53:39.800 --> 0:53:43.319 I first saw y'all, man, I listened to a lot 0:53:43.360 --> 0:53:45.480 of hip hop because I got no hip hop inside 0:53:45.520 --> 0:53:48.080 it out, you know, and I'm a fan first, you 0:53:48.120 --> 0:53:51.360 know what I mean. I really felt like y'all was 0:53:51.400 --> 0:53:54.520 so unique, man, and wasn't nobody like y'all. I really 0:53:54.560 --> 0:53:56.440 say it, man, these dudes go fuck around and be 0:53:56.520 --> 0:54:00.000 like the fucking Beatles, a hip hop dog. I really 0:54:00.000 --> 0:54:03.480 I saw that, man, and I think, Man, somewhere along 0:54:03.560 --> 0:54:07.680 the way, man, like you said, the inconsistency started kind 0:54:07.680 --> 0:54:09.600 of coming in, you know, like I would see some 0:54:09.680 --> 0:54:12.320 crazy records that just didn't make sense, you know what 0:54:12.360 --> 0:54:14.480 I mean, Like, Okay, this dude over here doing these 0:54:14.520 --> 0:54:17.239 records with this dude. I like, man, the motherfuckers is 0:54:17.320 --> 0:54:18.080 too big for that. 0:54:18.239 --> 0:54:18.479 Man. 0:54:19.200 --> 0:54:22.000 Where do you think that? Like, why is it so 0:54:22.160 --> 0:54:23.720 hard to keep that cohesiveness? 0:54:25.360 --> 0:54:28.080 I mean, you know what I mean, because man, when 0:54:28.160 --> 0:54:30.720 money come into play, man niggas. 0:54:30.400 --> 0:54:34.239 Just always that man, you know, because. 0:54:34.800 --> 0:54:37.440 In the beginning, you know what I mean, it was 0:54:37.560 --> 0:54:42.920 like our shit was more control. Like I worked at KFC, 0:54:43.160 --> 0:54:46.239 I sold dope. I went to school, I set up 0:54:46.280 --> 0:54:49.320 our talent shows. I did a lot of that stuff, 0:54:49.360 --> 0:54:49.919 you know what I mean. 0:54:50.120 --> 0:54:50.600 Like, so. 0:54:52.040 --> 0:54:54.480 We didn't have a lot of money, but a lot 0:54:54.520 --> 0:54:56.840 of that money came from me. 0:54:57.320 --> 0:54:57.839 You know what I mean. 0:54:57.880 --> 0:54:59.720 Like I'm like, all right, so we gotta get outfits 0:54:59.760 --> 0:55:03.200 boom we do. You know a lot of my contribution 0:55:03.640 --> 0:55:06.800 was to keep the group going. But shit, Like I said, 0:55:06.840 --> 0:55:11.719 our first check a piece was eighty thousand sh That 0:55:11.800 --> 0:55:16.520 Nigga Busy was with us in Cleveland for a couple 0:55:16.560 --> 0:55:17.080 of years. 0:55:17.680 --> 0:55:20.120 He hated Columbus. You know what I mean. 0:55:20.160 --> 0:55:22.640 That nigga got that check, Nigga, that nigga was out, 0:55:23.320 --> 0:55:24.920 That Nigga went straight to Columbus. 0:55:24.920 --> 0:55:25.640 We like, where's this? 0:55:25.920 --> 0:55:28.239 You know what I'm saying. But that's what money do. 0:55:28.560 --> 0:55:31.280 It gives you power to do. You don't have to listen. 0:55:31.280 --> 0:55:35.520 We don't have to sit down and mastermind together, you 0:55:35.520 --> 0:55:37.880 know what I'm saying. Like I got my own ideas, 0:55:37.920 --> 0:55:41.520 and then you got other people. They got ideas that 0:55:41.600 --> 0:55:44.040 didn't have nothing to do with the original idea, and 0:55:44.080 --> 0:55:46.319 now you over here with two people in your ear. 0:55:46.400 --> 0:55:49.520 I got three in mind. And that's when the Wedges 0:55:49.600 --> 0:55:52.680 start coming in, you know what I mean. But us 0:55:52.680 --> 0:55:55.400 being family, you know what I mean, we kind of 0:55:55.480 --> 0:55:58.640 leaned on each other. That's why we're still here today. 0:55:58.680 --> 0:56:01.920 We was more of family orientated, you know what I mean. 0:56:01.960 --> 0:56:07.839 So when the wedges came down, one of us always knew, like, oh, 0:56:07.880 --> 0:56:10.480 we got to pull it back together. So if it 0:56:10.520 --> 0:56:13.080 wasn't me, it was it was flesh, you know what 0:56:13.120 --> 0:56:15.560 I'm saying. If it wasn't flesh, it was big wish, 0:56:15.880 --> 0:56:18.200 like the fuck that we family, you know what I'm saying. 0:56:18.280 --> 0:56:23.600 So our family aspect, our parents knowing each other and 0:56:23.800 --> 0:56:27.160 growing up in the Glenville area together and knowing each 0:56:27.200 --> 0:56:30.959 other is what helped us stand the test of time. 0:56:31.480 --> 0:56:34.000 That's a good thing. Is I still see y'all touring, man, 0:56:34.040 --> 0:56:37.520 And like that's one thing man that always tell artists 0:56:37.680 --> 0:56:40.480 y'all might not have had the best contract that first 0:56:40.520 --> 0:56:43.080 album though, but look at what y'all doing. 0:56:43.320 --> 0:56:43.440 Man. 0:56:43.480 --> 0:56:45.279 It's thirty years later. 0:56:45.320 --> 0:56:47.640 Man, we're free agents too, you know what I'm saying. 0:56:47.680 --> 0:56:50.560 So when we put out some now, it's like all 0:56:50.600 --> 0:56:52.960 that all that come home exactly. 0:56:53.120 --> 0:56:55.360 Yeah, y'all about to get the masters back to him. 0:56:55.360 --> 0:56:59.239 Masters come back year thirty man, and you know it's 0:56:59.280 --> 0:57:01.680 gonna be a beautiful So we got, you know, the 0:57:01.760 --> 0:57:03.520 masters starting to revert back. 0:57:03.600 --> 0:57:08.120 They're crazy. Some ship that we wrote. 0:57:08.000 --> 0:57:10.160 And we did thirty years. 0:57:10.200 --> 0:57:13.719 Take us thirty years to own our own ship, and 0:57:13.760 --> 0:57:14.360 we made the. 0:57:14.360 --> 0:57:14.839 Ship I got. 0:57:14.920 --> 0:57:15.120 Damn. 0:57:15.320 --> 0:57:19.400 I sat up all night getting high, drinking forty ounces, 0:57:19.440 --> 0:57:22.200 trying to come up with motherfucking shit to write about. 0:57:22.760 --> 0:57:26.360 And a nigga just took my ship, right like, nigga, 0:57:26.400 --> 0:57:27.280 that's that's mine. 0:57:27.480 --> 0:57:29.240 And they still don't want to give it back. 0:57:30.280 --> 0:57:31.560 Yeah, you have to go to court for that. 0:57:32.120 --> 0:57:33.760 You gotta you gotta go get a. 0:57:33.760 --> 0:57:36.640 Lawyer and go get it because they'll just keep selling 0:57:36.640 --> 0:57:39.200 it and keep flipping it and going, yeah it's thirty 0:57:39.280 --> 0:57:42.200 years later, oh what, and they'll keep collecting the money. 0:57:42.400 --> 0:57:42.480 No. 0:57:42.640 --> 0:57:45.560 After I know, after Easy died, man, was it a 0:57:45.640 --> 0:57:48.040 little hard man, Because see, it's one thing when you're 0:57:48.080 --> 0:57:50.040 dealing with a cat that you like and stuff may 0:57:50.080 --> 0:57:52.360 not be all the way right, but that didn't give 0:57:52.360 --> 0:57:55.080 you opportunity exactly, and then somebody else come in and 0:57:55.160 --> 0:57:57.400 take over. Was it a lot of little dissension as 0:57:57.400 --> 0:57:58.520 far as dealing with Tamika. 0:57:59.240 --> 0:58:02.919 I mean, it was like, you know, Uh, I said 0:58:03.120 --> 0:58:03.400 like this. 0:58:03.600 --> 0:58:06.280 So when we was working with Easy Eve when he 0:58:06.400 --> 0:58:10.640 was alive, he just put us in the studio and said, y'all, niggas, 0:58:10.920 --> 0:58:14.400 give me give me an album. He didn't over like, 0:58:14.480 --> 0:58:17.240 look over our shoulder, I want to I want another 0:58:17.320 --> 0:58:20.000 Cross Rolls. You know, all that shit hadn't happened yet. 0:58:20.080 --> 0:58:22.800 So he let us do whatever we want. He let 0:58:22.840 --> 0:58:26.000 us be us, and we came with our ship. By 0:58:26.040 --> 0:58:31.840 the time Tamika and Uh and Ryan Swains where y'all 0:58:32.320 --> 0:58:36.400 all the other players came into play. When that happened, 0:58:36.880 --> 0:58:40.960 it was like they was looking for something, you know 0:58:40.960 --> 0:58:44.120 what I'm saying. It's like Tamika wanted to tell us 0:58:44.240 --> 0:58:46.720 how to do our record or which record to do, 0:58:46.760 --> 0:58:48.360 you know what I mean. Like, and we didn't have that. 0:58:48.520 --> 0:58:53.560 So we had one hundred freedom with he was alive, 0:58:53.640 --> 0:58:55.760 and then when he wasn't, we had people trying to 0:58:55.800 --> 0:58:57.960 tell us how to do our shit. Well, we need 0:58:58.000 --> 0:59:01.360 another Crossrods or some of the time. So we okay, 0:59:01.400 --> 0:59:02.360 we did cross Roads. 0:59:02.400 --> 0:59:02.640 Boom. 0:59:02.680 --> 0:59:05.160 Now we're gonna give y'all change the world. And now 0:59:05.240 --> 0:59:08.160 we're gonna give y'all if I could teach, so you know, 0:59:08.200 --> 0:59:12.080 if you look at our songs. It's like seven eight 0:59:12.920 --> 0:59:15.600 them kind of songs of each type kind of song. 0:59:15.760 --> 0:59:18.919 You know what I'm saying, Because motherfuckers was looking for 0:59:19.080 --> 0:59:22.480 the next instead of just letting us, just. 0:59:22.160 --> 0:59:25.160 Just letting us create and come up with our own. 0:59:25.720 --> 0:59:28.520 Now y'all telling us all, y'all gotta do another Crossroads, 0:59:28.800 --> 0:59:30.520 You gotta give us another hit single. 0:59:31.560 --> 0:59:33.720 Didn't know cross Roads was gonna be a hit. So 0:59:33.800 --> 0:59:35.960 while we're chasing that, Yeah, if you was. 0:59:36.080 --> 0:59:38.760 Being lifted your own devices the first project, I'll just 0:59:38.840 --> 0:59:41.160 let y'all keep doing all this. Obviously didn't know what 0:59:41.160 --> 0:59:41.520 they're doing. 0:59:41.600 --> 0:59:43.200 Let's leave them alone. 0:59:43.240 --> 0:59:45.120 That's what he did. He was like, Okay, I'm gonna 0:59:45.120 --> 0:59:47.520 get y'all niggas some producers. He put us in the 0:59:47.560 --> 0:59:56.760 studio with Rhythm D and J Unique, Tony C, all 0:59:56.840 --> 0:59:57.560 these guys. 0:59:57.600 --> 0:59:58.360 You know what I'm saying. 0:59:58.440 --> 1:00:02.600 Drake Ghost, we was all in studio with and he 1:00:02.680 --> 1:00:05.680 would go hind new business. You know, he'd be out 1:00:05.680 --> 1:00:08.960 there or he'd have he had his office set up 1:00:09.000 --> 1:00:12.280 over here, all the white people coming in and now 1:00:12.480 --> 1:00:14.120 he ain't but he ain't messed with us. 1:00:14.480 --> 1:00:16.480 He's like, what y'all let me hear what y'all. 1:00:16.240 --> 1:00:19.200 Did, and we'll play it for him and he'd like 1:00:19.280 --> 1:00:22.000 it or not like it, you know what I'm saying. 1:00:22.040 --> 1:00:23.840 But most of the time he liked it. He was 1:00:24.200 --> 1:00:27.000 hip hop. Y'all write me a verse. No, you're gonna 1:00:27.000 --> 1:00:28.000 write your own shit. 1:00:28.120 --> 1:00:31.880 He you know what I'm saying, like his and he 1:00:32.120 --> 1:00:34.880 he really started like he was he was. 1:00:34.840 --> 1:00:36.479 Finn to be a bomb member. Man? 1:00:37.320 --> 1:00:38.000 Is that right on? 1:00:38.080 --> 1:00:38.560 Everything? 1:00:38.640 --> 1:00:41.160 You see that you see the braids to the back, man, 1:00:41.200 --> 1:00:44.240 you see before he left Earth, Man, he was Nigga 1:00:44.320 --> 1:00:47.080 was braided up, you know, still in the same pendleton 1:00:47.600 --> 1:00:49.680 buttoning up, hot as hell, you know what I mean. 1:00:49.720 --> 1:00:51.600 But at the same time. 1:00:51.440 --> 1:00:55.040 It wasn't the curl wasn't the curl was going slowly 1:00:55.080 --> 1:00:55.760 fading out. 1:00:56.880 --> 1:00:59.080 I mean that Nigga was a that was e bomb. 1:01:00.120 --> 1:01:02.400 That would have been hard dug, that would have been dope. 1:01:02.520 --> 1:01:05.160 It was it was it was happening, man, Like all 1:01:05.200 --> 1:01:06.680 that shit happened so fast? 1:01:06.880 --> 1:01:07.880 Did it seems surreal? 1:01:08.000 --> 1:01:08.160 Bro? 1:01:08.320 --> 1:01:12.360 Because sometimes even some like sometimes I've had like my 1:01:12.480 --> 1:01:16.240 own incredible moments in life to where sometimes I'd just 1:01:16.320 --> 1:01:18.320 like to slow it down and embrace the moment because 1:01:18.320 --> 1:01:20.240 I'd be like, man, this shit really happening for me 1:01:20.400 --> 1:01:22.720 right like right now? Was it one of those type 1:01:22.720 --> 1:01:23.680 of moments with you? 1:01:24.200 --> 1:01:26.960 I mean yeah, I mean we we got out to 1:01:27.000 --> 1:01:31.360 California November twenty third. We left November twenty third, nineteen 1:01:31.480 --> 1:01:35.880 ninety three. Our first shit came out June twenty fourth, 1:01:36.000 --> 1:01:40.640 nineteen ninety four, So we didn't hook up with Easy 1:01:40.680 --> 1:01:45.680 E until after until like February, you know what I'm saying. 1:01:45.800 --> 1:01:50.800 So February March April May we recorded that all about 1:01:51.120 --> 1:01:52.560 fifteen songs. 1:01:53.080 --> 1:01:55.120 He put that shit out, He took his album. 1:01:55.200 --> 1:01:58.000 He was finna put his album out, and if he 1:01:58.160 --> 1:02:01.920 hadn't did that, when it never came out, he stopped 1:02:01.960 --> 1:02:06.720 his album, put our ship out. And that was ninety four. 1:02:06.920 --> 1:02:10.000 He died in ninety five, so we only knew he 1:02:10.680 --> 1:02:11.880 a little over a year. 1:02:13.560 --> 1:02:17.080 Wow, changed your life that quick, that quick. It was 1:02:17.200 --> 1:02:19.880 unselfish about it because he said he took he I'm 1:02:19.920 --> 1:02:22.000 not gonna put my album on. He was a majoritist. 1:02:23.640 --> 1:02:25.800 Yeah, and then and he had some ship because he 1:02:25.840 --> 1:02:27.280 was feeling he won the Bomber. 1:02:27.360 --> 1:02:31.360 He was coming on. He had it for the dog Pound. 1:02:31.440 --> 1:02:33.040 He was coming for them niggas. 1:02:33.280 --> 1:02:37.240 But he saw talent though this was this for me 1:02:37.320 --> 1:02:41.440 would solidified him as an executive visionary. 1:02:41.840 --> 1:02:43.840 Right that nigga stopped. 1:02:43.440 --> 1:02:45.919 What he was doing and was like, I'm gonna put 1:02:45.960 --> 1:02:48.600 these guys out as executive. 1:02:48.720 --> 1:02:54.000 That's the difference between a rap executive and a nigga 1:02:54.000 --> 1:02:56.640 who know the vision. Vision like, it ain't about me 1:02:56.800 --> 1:03:00.640 being here. These niggas is gonna surpass me. You get me, 1:03:00.960 --> 1:03:03.120 but I need to go there right now, I'm thinking 1:03:03.160 --> 1:03:06.040 like an executive because a normal nigga in that position 1:03:06.600 --> 1:03:10.080 would be like, man, put my record out first. 1:03:10.560 --> 1:03:11.640 You got a gang of them. 1:03:11.920 --> 1:03:15.720 You got a gang of niggas who call themselves executives. 1:03:16.080 --> 1:03:18.040 But then they don't think like that. 1:03:18.040 --> 1:03:21.480 That's why the careers and the successors of their artists 1:03:21.800 --> 1:03:25.880 don't climb past the motherfucking ant hell because they don't 1:03:25.880 --> 1:03:29.760 see the vision of going. Man, these niggas is finna 1:03:29.840 --> 1:03:32.920 be way larger than how you get me. So let 1:03:32.920 --> 1:03:35.760 me stop my shit, un Let's shoot the ship right here. 1:03:35.800 --> 1:03:38.160 That was smart. You get me, But like you said, 1:03:38.520 --> 1:03:41.040 he was a real executive, and shit, you feel me. 1:03:41.200 --> 1:03:44.200 He learned that from being a street hustler. You feel 1:03:44.280 --> 1:03:46.840 me like, I know what, I know what works are 1:03:46.920 --> 1:03:49.200 not gonna work. I'm not gonna waste my time with 1:03:49.280 --> 1:03:51.400 this sack when I know I can get bigger money 1:03:51.440 --> 1:03:52.600 over here, you feel me? 1:03:52.640 --> 1:03:56.680 He putting out NWA but still got the wherew thor 1:03:56.840 --> 1:03:59.680 to put out jj FAD exactly. 1:04:00.160 --> 1:04:00.320 Yeah. 1:04:00.760 --> 1:04:03.440 Jj FAD was this first platinum althum I believe, wasn't it? 1:04:03.440 --> 1:04:03.640 Man? 1:04:03.800 --> 1:04:06.160 I mean he had all the nigga had at a 1:04:06.200 --> 1:04:08.720 group called at band Klan with Will I Am when 1:04:08.760 --> 1:04:12.000 we first came out here. So he had this nigga 1:04:12.080 --> 1:04:16.000 had all kind of weird artists, like he was really 1:04:16.080 --> 1:04:17.800 like he was on. 1:04:17.960 --> 1:04:19.200 He was he was that. 1:04:19.400 --> 1:04:21.000 I wanted to be that, like. 1:04:21.080 --> 1:04:24.400 Yeah, I'm a real record fucking label. 1:04:24.480 --> 1:04:28.600 Yeah, Like, man, like that's what I wanted to be. 1:04:28.280 --> 1:04:31.640 Because y'all was the most important group at that label 1:04:31.720 --> 1:04:34.960 at that time. Because you gotta remember Dread left and 1:04:35.040 --> 1:04:36.800 they was over there doing their thing when you know, 1:04:36.960 --> 1:04:39.040 death Ro came. They were smashing you know what I mean, 1:04:39.080 --> 1:04:41.480 they were smashing everything that he was dropping with solid 1:04:41.560 --> 1:04:45.960 right and he dropped y'all and y'all was that mega 1:04:46.040 --> 1:04:46.640 time bomb. 1:04:46.680 --> 1:04:48.960 It was like, yeah, that, for the love of money 1:04:49.120 --> 1:04:49.600 was killer. 1:04:49.720 --> 1:04:51.000 You know what I'm saying That and that was like 1:04:51.080 --> 1:04:52.760 I was like this, you know, I was around here, 1:04:52.840 --> 1:04:54.520 shee'zing like a mother for you know, every time of 1:04:54.560 --> 1:04:57.480 Cleveland nigga do something else. I'm like, yeah, y'all, nigga, see, 1:04:57.480 --> 1:04:59.760 don't start trying to bite the army swag either, nigga. 1:05:00.240 --> 1:05:02.360 And they from the motherfucking part section of the town. 1:05:02.440 --> 1:05:03.720 I'm from two niggas home. 1:05:05.160 --> 1:05:08.320 He was watching Drew Carry Man stop playing fuck with 1:05:08.360 --> 1:05:13.160 Drew Carrey. 1:05:12.720 --> 1:05:16.320 Carry on the east side to yeah, just downtown. 1:05:16.720 --> 1:05:18.600 Well, yeah, Drew Carry used to suck me and Drew 1:05:18.640 --> 1:05:24.720 Carey used to hustle together. Carr had a second God, 1:05:24.800 --> 1:05:27.120 they can tell him. Put y'all the price is right there, 1:05:27.200 --> 1:05:30.600 nigger ship. You try to get all. Drew Carry sold 1:05:30.720 --> 1:05:34.160 my first zone, all the stuff stuff in front of me, 1:05:34.240 --> 1:05:35.000 my first zone. 1:05:35.200 --> 1:05:35.360 You know. 1:05:37.120 --> 1:05:42.480 But man, you know what dog the thing is when 1:05:42.560 --> 1:05:45.680 y'all came out. Man, the thing I liked too is 1:05:45.720 --> 1:05:48.480 that y'all didn't get too heavily invested in the It 1:05:48.520 --> 1:05:51.640 was all about music because at that time Ruthless was 1:05:51.640 --> 1:05:53.920 firing back with music. But when Easy did drop this ship, 1:05:53.960 --> 1:05:54.760 it was impactful. 1:05:55.760 --> 1:05:58.800 Know we we and I can speak on like even 1:05:58.800 --> 1:06:01.760 coming from the West coast. We banged some we banged 1:06:01.760 --> 1:06:05.440 some bone even like the thuggish Ruggish man. We banged 1:06:05.480 --> 1:06:08.520 all y'all ship from the beginning. So it was just 1:06:08.800 --> 1:06:12.720 it was it was just different. It was saying, as 1:06:12.760 --> 1:06:15.120 far as hip hop was concerned, you know, you had 1:06:15.120 --> 1:06:17.920 an East coast ship and then you know the West 1:06:17.960 --> 1:06:20.840 coast we had our ship. But it was it was 1:06:20.880 --> 1:06:23.400 something different. Man, I'm gonna tell you something. I'm gonna 1:06:23.400 --> 1:06:25.360 tell you a no offense because some of y'all niggas 1:06:25.360 --> 1:06:29.400 at my homies, but when something new comes, here come 1:06:29.520 --> 1:06:32.760 the slew of poor man imitations. It was like a 1:06:32.840 --> 1:06:35.840 bunch of fake bone troops that came out after that. Man, 1:06:35.880 --> 1:06:38.640 everybody just thought it was about and we were so cold. 1:06:38.680 --> 1:06:40.840 Some of them dudes was just mumbling they didn't have 1:06:40.920 --> 1:06:43.280 the Kate and sy right, you know what I'm saying. 1:06:43.280 --> 1:06:45.600 They wasn't incorporating the melodies and stuff. They was just 1:06:45.640 --> 1:06:46.439 on that pretty much. 1:06:50.520 --> 1:06:50.720 You know. 1:06:50.920 --> 1:06:53.680 I'm glad. I'm glad you said that though, because it's 1:06:53.800 --> 1:06:58.600 like and then and then I really recognized the pattern 1:06:58.720 --> 1:07:00.800 of how the in the street. 1:07:00.640 --> 1:07:04.360 Do you know what I mean? Like, but I recognized 1:07:04.480 --> 1:07:06.000 it watching Little Wayne. 1:07:06.040 --> 1:07:06.280 Though. 1:07:07.080 --> 1:07:09.200 It was like when Little Wayne hit and by that 1:07:09.280 --> 1:07:10.200 nigga blew up. 1:07:10.200 --> 1:07:14.440 Like by itself with everybody had to sound like Little Wayne, 1:07:15.160 --> 1:07:16.800 you know what I mean. But that's how they did 1:07:16.920 --> 1:07:20.160 bomb But I was in it. I really couldn't. I 1:07:20.200 --> 1:07:22.600 couldn't step out and see what was going on. 1:07:23.120 --> 1:07:25.120 It got real corny for a minute though. 1:07:25.400 --> 1:07:27.920 I had to look in hindsight, you know what I mean. Like, 1:07:28.000 --> 1:07:33.000 but yeah, niggas like a thousand niggas, like every record label, 1:07:33.440 --> 1:07:38.280 like when Easy Easy E died. Man, everybody tried to 1:07:38.320 --> 1:07:42.280 steal Bomb Thugs in Harmony from Ruthless Records. We was 1:07:42.400 --> 1:07:43.800 just loyal, you know what I mean. 1:07:43.960 --> 1:07:45.920 Who was the one? I know was somebody that had 1:07:45.920 --> 1:07:49.160 to check the heck y'all? Like thinking, like, man, it. 1:07:49.160 --> 1:07:52.040 Was only seven majors I've been at. I've been at 1:07:52.080 --> 1:07:54.280 every last one of them, you know what I'm saying. 1:07:54.400 --> 1:07:57.640 So they came in, they beating out, beating our door 1:07:57.760 --> 1:07:59.880 down for bomb Thugs and Harmony. That's how I got 1:08:00.120 --> 1:08:03.240 deal with def Jam for Fleshing Bone because he wasn't 1:08:03.280 --> 1:08:04.840 signed in the group, you. 1:08:04.880 --> 1:08:07.480 Know what I mean. And then that's how I was 1:08:07.520 --> 1:08:12.560 able to parlay the more thugs shit that relativity because they. 1:08:12.440 --> 1:08:15.800 Wanted that bone thugs in harmony sound you know what 1:08:15.840 --> 1:08:21.160 I mean? Like that, Now we're talking about influence and 1:08:22.960 --> 1:08:26.400 the contributions that was made to this, to this thing 1:08:26.520 --> 1:08:32.200 we love. We number twenty one on the Billboard Group list. 1:08:32.160 --> 1:08:34.360 Right fuck out of here. 1:08:35.240 --> 1:08:40.120 Everybody got their hair braided, Everybody changed their wrap flow 1:08:40.520 --> 1:08:45.080 from Mariah Carey to bust the Rhymes to name them. 1:08:45.840 --> 1:08:51.400 Everybody put a little flow, not everybody. 1:08:50.720 --> 1:08:53.360 But mostly like but the contribute. 1:08:53.400 --> 1:08:57.000 What I'm trying to say is the contribution, the overall influence, 1:08:57.360 --> 1:09:01.439 the impact that we brought to the TA. The whole 1:09:01.479 --> 1:09:04.080 industry tried to come behind. We had to fight the 1:09:04.160 --> 1:09:05.760 whole industry. 1:09:07.120 --> 1:09:07.439 Just to. 1:09:08.960 --> 1:09:14.920 Not be drowned out by them bringing imitators to the table. 1:09:14.680 --> 1:09:16.479 And some of y'all brought to the game. I don't 1:09:16.479 --> 1:09:18.360 know if you noticed, but like I said, I stay 1:09:18.479 --> 1:09:25.240 this stuff right. Since y'all came in, it's like the 1:09:25.400 --> 1:09:27.800 generation that's raised was raised off y'all that might have 1:09:27.840 --> 1:09:31.080 been little babies and stuff like y'all was almost like 1:09:31.120 --> 1:09:34.160 the Curtis Mayfields that came in, right. A bunch of 1:09:34.240 --> 1:09:36.519 kids don't grow up listening to y'all. Not everybody rapping 1:09:36.560 --> 1:09:40.080 with melodies. Now everybody's rapping with a melody. Now you 1:09:40.160 --> 1:09:43.120 almost can't be a rapper. Now. That's why it's important 1:09:43.120 --> 1:09:45.840 for rappers like Scarlett to blow up and with the 1:09:45.880 --> 1:09:49.760 One Girl, the Big Topic girl from Cleveland, because they 1:09:49.840 --> 1:09:52.559 bring their straight eggs back to it, like I'm just rapping. 1:09:52.560 --> 1:09:55.560 I don't got no melodies in my stuff. But everything 1:09:55.760 --> 1:09:59.320 since then it's almost been like a bone knockoff dog. 1:10:00.080 --> 1:10:03.360 Yeah, definitely, I mean that that was our contribution. Like 1:10:04.479 --> 1:10:06.000 I used to be, man, I used to look at 1:10:06.040 --> 1:10:08.599 those lists like, man, they don't give us our props, 1:10:08.640 --> 1:10:12.160 but it really don't even matter no more than because 1:10:13.280 --> 1:10:16.679 you know, we know, like just to look if I 1:10:16.760 --> 1:10:19.280 turn on the radio and be like, no, I had 1:10:19.320 --> 1:10:23.240 something to do, just to just to know, like the West, 1:10:23.360 --> 1:10:26.000 the way the West, the way n w A and 1:10:26.080 --> 1:10:29.760 y'all influenced the game with gangster rap music, you know 1:10:29.800 --> 1:10:32.080 what I mean. That's how I feel like our melodies 1:10:32.920 --> 1:10:36.080 had an impact, like to that degree. 1:10:36.160 --> 1:10:38.200 You know, when I hear a gang nigga saying ji 1:10:38.400 --> 1:10:42.679 on records, you get me, you feel me. I don't 1:10:42.720 --> 1:10:47.240 look at it as damn man, all these famous ass 1:10:47.640 --> 1:10:52.080 mega motherfuckers be saying jeer and knock one. Nigga will 1:10:52.120 --> 1:10:55.880 come out and say, I ain't gonna lie. First person 1:10:55.920 --> 1:10:57.519 I ever heard say that was eight. 1:10:57.840 --> 1:11:01.639 You know. Niggas be like, oh shit, I just started 1:11:01.720 --> 1:11:03.080 saying it. You get me. 1:11:03.240 --> 1:11:05.559 I don't look at it as I'll just be like, 1:11:05.680 --> 1:11:08.920 you know something, I know where it started from. I mean, 1:11:08.960 --> 1:11:11.840 and if niggas, if you look back and check their 1:11:11.920 --> 1:11:16.000 history from from eighty seven on, I was you know 1:11:16.040 --> 1:11:18.960 what I'm saying. So everybody came after that it was 1:11:19.080 --> 1:11:22.160 influenced by it. And if you was influenced by it, cool, 1:11:22.360 --> 1:11:24.040 I'm I'm glad you used it. 1:11:24.080 --> 1:11:28.200 We said that shit, nigga like, but we knew where. 1:11:28.439 --> 1:11:29.760 We knew where it came from. 1:11:29.760 --> 1:11:32.759 Some people some people like, oh yeah, I know, nigga, 1:11:32.800 --> 1:11:35.360 that's MC eight all day. And then there's some dude 1:11:35.400 --> 1:11:39.679 who be like, I don't say nothing about it. 1:11:39.680 --> 1:11:41.000 It is what it is, and. 1:11:40.920 --> 1:11:42.840 I don't want to sound like I'm dissing nobody, So 1:11:42.920 --> 1:11:46.320 please don't nobody take Because I think brothers do what 1:11:46.320 --> 1:11:48.519 they got to do to get opportunities, and these labels 1:11:48.520 --> 1:11:50.600 they saw you all were successful, so obviously it was like, 1:11:50.680 --> 1:11:53.160 we need to find we need to find us boone 1:11:53.240 --> 1:11:55.400 Thugs Harmony because I know at one time it was 1:11:55.439 --> 1:11:58.400 a prominent Southern rap label that had people on the 1:11:58.400 --> 1:12:02.760 streets looking for booms Like, yeah, I don't want to, 1:12:02.840 --> 1:12:03.680 you know, talk about it. 1:12:03.640 --> 1:12:08.320 But they was literally copy, they go copy what's popular? 1:12:08.720 --> 1:12:12.160 I want to ride? What's popular? Movies do it all day? 1:12:12.560 --> 1:12:16.439 You see a nigga make a movie about Vietnam? How 1:12:16.479 --> 1:12:20.280 many movies different companies that made movies about Vietnam or 1:12:20.360 --> 1:12:24.639 spaceships or fucking the president getting killed or whatever. 1:12:24.840 --> 1:12:26.320 Everybody wants something that's popular. 1:12:26.400 --> 1:12:30.479 Though, if it were ship, I'm gonna I'm gonna ride. 1:12:31.120 --> 1:12:33.800 That's how they do it. The world so fat. That's 1:12:33.800 --> 1:12:38.360 a motherfucking that's what you call it? Cop what's funny 1:12:38.360 --> 1:12:41.680 about boom Man? It's y'all all got all different personalities, right, 1:12:42.080 --> 1:12:44.080 because I'm cool with crazy crazy, you know create a 1:12:44.120 --> 1:12:45.559 Humber cra is real reserve. 1:12:46.320 --> 1:12:48.439 He's a quiet dude. You always seem like you was 1:12:48.439 --> 1:12:50.040 a nigga that was out in traffic. I said, that's 1:12:50.040 --> 1:12:52.439 the nigga to be out in traffic, probably wiggling with everybody. 1:12:52.479 --> 1:12:56.599 Right, you're the one that you're the wiggling, which seemed 1:12:56.600 --> 1:13:00.479 like he can't like the doom, you know, you know, 1:13:00.520 --> 1:13:01.400 he he a bet a goon. 1:13:01.479 --> 1:13:03.719 He'd a no nonsense nigga. Didn't fire on the nigga, 1:13:03.720 --> 1:13:06.599 you know what I mean. Flesh seemed like he don't 1:13:06.600 --> 1:13:08.160 play no type of games, you know what I mean. 1:13:08.240 --> 1:13:11.080 So it's a it's a service structure there. But Busy 1:13:11.280 --> 1:13:14.519 is the wild card. He's the nigga that's go start 1:13:14.560 --> 1:13:16.960 a fight somewhere he ain't supposed to start a fight 1:13:17.000 --> 1:13:19.800 at and go talk some shit, to say some shit 1:13:19.800 --> 1:13:21.679 he ain't supposed to say. I was at the verses, right, 1:13:22.040 --> 1:13:23.800 I didn't go to the thing though, I didn't go 1:13:23.800 --> 1:13:26.479 to the actual verses. I was at the hotel. I 1:13:26.560 --> 1:13:29.479 actually had it is. I'm I'm cool with one of 1:13:29.520 --> 1:13:33.000 my homeboys. Shout out to Uncle Beats down with three six, right, 1:13:33.120 --> 1:13:34.439 do a lot of shit with three six. So I 1:13:34.479 --> 1:13:36.880 was up there fucking with Crunchy Black Uncle Beats. That's 1:13:36.920 --> 1:13:39.720 my dog, that's your boy, that's my nigga right there, 1:13:39.760 --> 1:13:41.320 you know, shout out the boy. I was kicking it with, 1:13:41.640 --> 1:13:45.479 you know, Lola and the other homie, and we was 1:13:45.520 --> 1:13:47.360 up there talking and they said, while you over here, 1:13:47.439 --> 1:13:49.320 still you at Cleveland, nigga, you came to get some 1:13:49.360 --> 1:13:52.840 intail for your bone people, because we about to smash him. 1:13:52.960 --> 1:13:55.320 And they had all kinds of niggas run through the hotel. 1:13:56.479 --> 1:13:58.920 I never felt like a little kid again though. But 1:13:58.960 --> 1:14:01.840 when the Homies eight ball MJG came through that motherfucker 1:14:02.439 --> 1:14:05.360 and you know that nigga MJG. He almost remember that 1:14:05.439 --> 1:14:07.599 old school movie Willie Danna Mike had that nigga walk 1:14:07.640 --> 1:14:10.920 down the stairs at that courthouse. That nigga MJG. Don't 1:14:10.960 --> 1:14:13.000 touch the ground when he walked. He really like he 1:14:13.080 --> 1:14:15.320 really in character all the time. You know, he come 1:14:15.400 --> 1:14:17.160 in there, he got two white girls in his arm. 1:14:17.160 --> 1:14:18.600 He skipped up in that mother for them. I'm like, 1:14:18.600 --> 1:14:21.559 oh shit, damn b MJG. And now I said, y'all 1:14:21.640 --> 1:14:23.439 niggas just got to pull the cheek code out for 1:14:23.479 --> 1:14:25.599 all the Cleveland niggas. But they would come by theyself. 1:14:25.960 --> 1:14:29.240 But then y'all came with some surprises. Did you think 1:14:29.240 --> 1:14:30.880 it was gonna be one of the moments, man, when 1:14:30.920 --> 1:14:32.000 Busy tripped out up there. 1:14:32.439 --> 1:14:34.960 I mean, you always gotta expect something to happen, you 1:14:35.000 --> 1:14:38.000 know what I mean? Just like with that whole bond 1:14:38.080 --> 1:14:41.720 thugs and harmony in three six Mafia. The history is 1:14:41.760 --> 1:14:46.439 so rich and the few was so real, you know 1:14:46.439 --> 1:14:50.960 what I mean, Like he had to expect something. I mean, 1:14:51.080 --> 1:14:53.760 but Busy Bone, you know what I mean, that's that's 1:14:53.840 --> 1:14:54.559 Busy Bone. 1:14:54.600 --> 1:14:57.920 You never know that he gonna say something, something gonna. 1:14:58.240 --> 1:15:01.720 Heugly motherfuckers to keep playing with me. 1:15:03.760 --> 1:15:06.080 And I just remember Boo going, Busy you a hater? 1:15:06.479 --> 1:15:07.040 You would hater? 1:15:07.160 --> 1:15:12.280 Busy rest, Yeah, there's a piece of boost. Was he 1:15:12.320 --> 1:15:15.639 a hater because they was ugly or what? Because he said? 1:15:16.520 --> 1:15:21.080 Oh no, I just think that's lost. She was funny 1:15:21.080 --> 1:15:21.840 as a motherfucker. 1:15:22.000 --> 1:15:26.760 Our joke by backstage was like these ugly mother and 1:15:26.800 --> 1:15:29.320 this blurted that ship out. 1:15:29.439 --> 1:15:32.559 Was you a Haterigga said? You an ugly? Wild fucking 1:15:33.920 --> 1:15:34.400 ship was. 1:15:34.360 --> 1:15:36.840 So funny because it seemed like it can't noek because 1:15:36.840 --> 1:15:38.720 you ain't know if Busy was playing at first, but 1:15:38.720 --> 1:15:41.360 then he's like he was serious than the motherfucker. Yeah, 1:15:41.800 --> 1:15:42.960 that nigga is passionate. 1:15:44.120 --> 1:15:48.480 Yeah, I mean it was the words that was exchanged 1:15:49.560 --> 1:15:51.800 went too far, you know what I'm saying With the 1:15:51.880 --> 1:15:57.360 nigga Juice Jay has said was inappropriate because we don't. 1:15:57.080 --> 1:16:01.400 Play that suck my dig ship. This shit crazy like. 1:16:02.280 --> 1:16:05.559 When men say that to me and nigga, that's always 1:16:05.680 --> 1:16:06.920 gonna I'm from. 1:16:07.680 --> 1:16:09.639 Yeah, I mean that's the thing. But this man from 1:16:09.680 --> 1:16:11.400 to a nigga invite me to his dick dog, I 1:16:11.479 --> 1:16:12.880 might put my steel on his ass. 1:16:13.040 --> 1:16:15.599 Yeah yeah, And that's why that got out of hand 1:16:15.760 --> 1:16:16.960 like that, you know what I mean. 1:16:17.080 --> 1:16:20.200 But you know what I mean, just and I want 1:16:20.240 --> 1:16:22.880 to add, you know, we talked to them, but were 1:16:23.000 --> 1:16:24.360 probably about to go on tour. 1:16:24.479 --> 1:16:27.160 We was about to go on tour with them right 1:16:27.200 --> 1:16:29.880 after that until boot pass, you know what I mean. 1:16:30.000 --> 1:16:33.200 So they was they was working on that, so you 1:16:33.200 --> 1:16:35.439 know what I mean, Like all that shit gets squashed, man, 1:16:35.560 --> 1:16:41.519 misunderstanding the heat of the moment, all that testosterone, all 1:16:41.600 --> 1:16:45.400 that talent, all that Bravardo. 1:16:45.000 --> 1:16:47.000 Up there, you know what I'm saying. So you gotta 1:16:47.040 --> 1:16:48.360 expect something to happen. 1:16:48.439 --> 1:16:51.200 Man, it just goes down like that sometimes. Man. The 1:16:51.280 --> 1:16:54.280 one thing I love about you all niggas, though it's 1:16:54.320 --> 1:16:57.240 no matter right or wrong, y'all always unified up in 1:16:57.280 --> 1:16:59.280 that motherfucker. Like you know what I'm saying. I said, Man, 1:16:59.320 --> 1:17:01.160 they probably could that that nigga out on the way home, 1:17:01.240 --> 1:17:03.519 but they go ride with him. That's how it's supposed 1:17:03.560 --> 1:17:05.519 to be because everybody got that one homeboy that's go 1:17:05.640 --> 1:17:06.000 act up. 1:17:06.320 --> 1:17:07.559 Oh definitely, But. 1:17:07.560 --> 1:17:10.200 You gotta ride with him because y'all been fronk y'all family. 1:17:10.320 --> 1:17:13.000 I mean thing about it is he ares, you know 1:17:13.040 --> 1:17:15.759 what I'm saying, So y'all can't touching. 1:17:16.600 --> 1:17:23.479 That's real shit, right, real ship. Let me ask you this, bro, 1:17:25.160 --> 1:17:27.280 and you ain't gotta say no names, man, but did 1:17:27.320 --> 1:17:29.280 you ever see one of them fake bone groups and 1:17:29.360 --> 1:17:31.040 just laugh, man, and just say this is the worst 1:17:31.080 --> 1:17:34.040 shit ever? Like, what's the worst copy cop? What's the 1:17:34.080 --> 1:17:35.639 worst knockoff? You know what I'm saying? 1:17:36.960 --> 1:17:37.800 Ah, Man, it was. 1:17:38.040 --> 1:17:42.200 It was just one group out of New Orleans. Them 1:17:42.280 --> 1:17:45.320 niggas hated us. We ain't know who they was. I 1:17:45.360 --> 1:17:49.000 didn't even know who they was til about fifteen years later. Like, 1:17:49.120 --> 1:17:52.479 but they really wanted to be boned. I don't even 1:17:52.520 --> 1:17:53.080 know their name. 1:17:53.479 --> 1:17:55.400 They know who they are. Yeah, yeah, you. 1:17:55.360 --> 1:17:57.360 Don't want to give no publicity like that, man, of 1:17:57.360 --> 1:17:59.120 course you don't want to give him no puz. 1:17:59.200 --> 1:17:59.880 Niggas was weak. 1:18:00.040 --> 1:18:02.559 You know what I'm saying gave them by saying where 1:18:02.560 --> 1:18:03.200 they was from. 1:18:03.280 --> 1:18:05.320 Yeah, the niggas down there, No, they gonna take their 1:18:05.320 --> 1:18:05.960 little segment and. 1:18:05.960 --> 1:18:08.559 Say, see he was. 1:18:08.040 --> 1:18:11.640 The whole time already gave him enough lazy boom. We 1:18:11.800 --> 1:18:14.160 already called them where they was from. So now they 1:18:14.240 --> 1:18:17.320 gonna be feeling good. The nigga said what we was from? 1:18:17.479 --> 1:18:20.400 Dog nigga, can't never call me no hater man. 1:18:20.680 --> 1:18:25.639 You know, I opened doors for niggas exactly like they 1:18:25.640 --> 1:18:28.000 can say what they want to say that. If that's 1:18:28.000 --> 1:18:30.160 what you got to say about me, you really don't 1:18:30.240 --> 1:18:32.760 know me, because you can ask anybody who know me. 1:18:33.920 --> 1:18:35.240 You know what I mean, y'all gonna give you a 1:18:35.280 --> 1:18:36.920 lot of cats opportunities though. 1:18:37.400 --> 1:18:39.320 Yeah, I mean a whole lot of them because they 1:18:39.439 --> 1:18:41.000 was given to us. You know what I mean. 1:18:41.240 --> 1:18:46.080 I'm a nigga Cleveland man who would imagine, like you 1:18:46.160 --> 1:18:49.439 gotta think ninety three when y'all put our minutes to society. 1:18:49.479 --> 1:18:52.519 You know how much influence that ship was in my life? 1:18:53.280 --> 1:18:54.040 You know what I'm saying? 1:18:54.160 --> 1:18:57.800 Like y'all, like you growing up in the hood. 1:18:57.600 --> 1:19:00.519 That song nigga right there, like we was that was 1:19:00.880 --> 1:19:04.960 and we was living that when we left Cleveland. We 1:19:05.000 --> 1:19:09.640 was living that, like, so the opportunity was provided to 1:19:09.760 --> 1:19:10.559 us for us to. 1:19:10.520 --> 1:19:13.040 Meet Easy Eat from Cleveland. 1:19:13.920 --> 1:19:16.800 You look to them ride this nigga drive and I'm 1:19:17.120 --> 1:19:20.880 shotgun looking like this Easy motherfucking Eats. 1:19:20.880 --> 1:19:22.439 One of the moments I talk about. 1:19:22.600 --> 1:19:26.000 One time, like when we first seeing y'all all, y'all 1:19:26.080 --> 1:19:28.719 like nigga we on the West Couse we're seeing y'all though, 1:19:28.960 --> 1:19:31.320 but we just seeing y'all in the movie. So that 1:19:32.040 --> 1:19:36.840 and that was unheard of Cleveland nigga like movies and 1:19:36.960 --> 1:19:39.519 like that shit was a dream, you know what I'm 1:19:39.520 --> 1:19:43.439 so we was afforded them opportunities, so I try to 1:19:43.439 --> 1:19:45.920 give it back sometimes though, Bro, you don't see it 1:19:46.000 --> 1:19:47.720 like you ever bring one of the homies from back 1:19:47.720 --> 1:19:49.439 of the crib out here though and just let them 1:19:49.439 --> 1:19:51.200 hang out, like you know, you got them homies. 1:19:51.200 --> 1:19:53.760 They ain't got no interest in being the entertainment. They 1:19:53.840 --> 1:19:56.000 just steal your It's still some niggas like that out 1:19:56.040 --> 1:19:58.760 there that just go always be your nigga, your same nigga. No, 1:19:58.920 --> 1:20:00.800 I don't want to do nothing. You ain't gotta give 1:20:00.840 --> 1:20:02.200 me nothing, but I'm gonna come out to fuck with 1:20:02.240 --> 1:20:04.280 you and they get out here and get to seeing 1:20:04.280 --> 1:20:06.200 this shit to be like, man, that was Such and Sex. 1:20:06.280 --> 1:20:08.599 I bought my homeboy Tad out here a few weeks ago, 1:20:08.920 --> 1:20:10.640 and he was like, Nigga, you just really knew all 1:20:10.640 --> 1:20:12.960 these niggas, don't you just floating around like they said 1:20:13.160 --> 1:20:16.280 it was regular NIGGASO. They people just like you and 1:20:16.320 --> 1:20:17.439 niggas just make music. 1:20:18.320 --> 1:20:20.479 I just tell him, like, you see why I'm in 1:20:20.560 --> 1:20:22.880 California because this is where they at. 1:20:22.960 --> 1:20:26.160 Nigga, Yeah, because it damn she ain't going down to Cleveland. 1:20:26.200 --> 1:20:26.400 Man. 1:20:27.120 --> 1:20:29.360 Well, man, I know I ain't asked you nowhere. I 1:20:29.439 --> 1:20:31.559 just didn't want to rehash a bunch of the same shit. 1:20:31.680 --> 1:20:34.120 Man that sometimes people get you all in these interviews. 1:20:34.120 --> 1:20:36.080 Bad y'all the dumbest shit dog in the world. 1:20:36.320 --> 1:20:38.920 Yeah, that and I hate them type of motherfucking in. 1:20:38.960 --> 1:20:41.080 It's like they just trying to reach instead of having 1:20:41.120 --> 1:20:43.280 the conversation and letting the shit be natural, They're trying 1:20:43.320 --> 1:20:45.880 to add. So, man, did you walk in on such 1:20:45.880 --> 1:20:47.640 and Sex when they was doing this and that? You 1:20:47.680 --> 1:20:49.080 know they just want to come out of the bat 1:20:49.160 --> 1:20:51.240 with some bullshit exactly. 1:20:51.720 --> 1:20:51.880 Yeah. 1:20:51.920 --> 1:20:55.000 I think I think this. You know, the conversation of 1:20:55.200 --> 1:20:56.120 just real niggas. 1:20:56.120 --> 1:20:58.880 Cond just try to talk and conversate with niggas and 1:20:59.160 --> 1:21:02.879 get a little in, get a people a little insight about, 1:21:02.920 --> 1:21:07.120 you know, how it was, and just real shit, you 1:21:07.200 --> 1:21:09.480 know what I'm saying. Because people look for red realism, 1:21:09.800 --> 1:21:12.680 you know you come from these places. They just want 1:21:12.760 --> 1:21:15.679 to hear a little a little bit of history about 1:21:16.640 --> 1:21:20.400 the same struggle, the same struggle, Yeah, and hopefully motivation. 1:21:20.560 --> 1:21:23.320 That's to an average nigga. Like you said, we get 1:21:23.400 --> 1:21:27.200 niggas who listen to us truck drivers, motherfuckers who just 1:21:27.240 --> 1:21:31.160 be chilling. They just want to hear that motherfuckers's normal 1:21:31.200 --> 1:21:32.840 motherfuckers sometimes. 1:21:32.400 --> 1:21:34.719 Yeah, and hear your perspective on stuff. Exactly. 1:21:34.800 --> 1:21:36.880 A lot of time niggas don't want to hear like 1:21:37.520 --> 1:21:41.759 you got a problem with this motherfucker, this conspiracy that happened, 1:21:41.840 --> 1:21:45.000 or we heard this or we heard man, don't I 1:21:45.000 --> 1:21:46.960 don't like to do that. And that's something I used 1:21:47.000 --> 1:21:49.800 to tell still about, Like we just got to talk 1:21:49.840 --> 1:21:52.880 to niggas about and if if it's a connection to 1:21:52.960 --> 1:21:55.280 the street, you know what I'm saying, we as we 1:21:55.400 --> 1:22:00.360 as as grown motherfuckers, know how to conversate without happen 1:22:00.400 --> 1:22:04.760 to dig into controversy and bullshit to a to a 1:22:04.920 --> 1:22:07.240 please a certain narrative. 1:22:07.439 --> 1:22:09.519 You tell you that right now. You know one thing 1:22:09.560 --> 1:22:12.880 I did want to ask you, though, Dog. They have 1:22:13.040 --> 1:22:17.120 been talking about these rich white folks, these rich folks 1:22:17.120 --> 1:22:18.920 that went to the bottom of the oceland. They went 1:22:18.960 --> 1:22:21.519 deeper than where the whale was going, and that just 1:22:21.600 --> 1:22:24.360 really governed the news right for most of the week. Right. 1:22:24.600 --> 1:22:27.519 But you had all these girls missing in Cleveland, right, 1:22:28.840 --> 1:22:33.120 If you notice as a pattern, Man, if we not 1:22:33.280 --> 1:22:35.320 care for Dog, they gonna fuck around, try to wipe 1:22:35.360 --> 1:22:37.920 us out one again, because it's all these and they 1:22:38.040 --> 1:22:39.519 not just doing it to the black girls, but they 1:22:39.600 --> 1:22:45.280 doing to the Mexican girls. Gang of young ladies missing 1:22:45.280 --> 1:22:48.439 from Mexico, right, gang of little girls man, between nine 1:22:48.479 --> 1:22:50.759 and fourteen, that was, you know, coming across the border, 1:22:50.880 --> 1:22:54.960 just disappear, right, Same thing happened in Cleveland, Same thing 1:22:54.960 --> 1:22:58.040 happened in Atlanta. Now you notice a pattern, man, anybody 1:22:58.200 --> 1:23:03.880 they deemed this being indispen You're easily dispensable. They like disappearing, Dog. 1:23:04.920 --> 1:23:06.639 I think it's something behind that shit, bro. 1:23:08.600 --> 1:23:13.719 I mean, you know, I'm just gonna say, man, America, Man, 1:23:13.800 --> 1:23:15.280 this is America, you know. 1:23:15.400 --> 1:23:17.439 Where, Yeah, where the government is set up. And the 1:23:17.479 --> 1:23:20.880 ship you see, I mean they give you clues to ship. 1:23:21.000 --> 1:23:25.080 And we done see enough shit on TVs and the 1:23:25.120 --> 1:23:29.000 news and conspiracy theories and movies and all to know 1:23:30.080 --> 1:23:31.759 it's ship that goes down. 1:23:32.040 --> 1:23:35.479 Yeah, the biggest cons want to cover it up. 1:23:35.600 --> 1:23:40.200 It's ship they go and they get It's. 1:23:38.960 --> 1:23:40.920 Just if you ever noticed, door bro, check this out, 1:23:40.960 --> 1:23:42.880 both of y'all. If you ever notice when it be 1:23:42.960 --> 1:23:46.400 some shit deep going down like that, it's always something 1:23:46.400 --> 1:23:49.519 crazy to happen, like a mass shooting, like something just 1:23:49.560 --> 1:23:51.960 crazy happening. It's almost like a distraction, like you know 1:23:52.000 --> 1:23:55.000 what I mean, It's like they put out all these 1:23:55.040 --> 1:23:58.360 distractions man, the media and all that stuff, right, they 1:23:58.360 --> 1:24:00.880 put all these distractions out there to distract you from 1:24:00.880 --> 1:24:03.439 the ship. That's real, right. They don't show you about 1:24:03.439 --> 1:24:05.320 these folks. Don't jump in the boat, you know. I 1:24:05.400 --> 1:24:07.360 mean niggas down the water every day, my nigga, that 1:24:07.400 --> 1:24:08.599 they don't the news don't cover. 1:24:09.120 --> 1:24:13.679 Right, So look that the submarine thing happened, right, all 1:24:13.680 --> 1:24:18.000 that all that coverage, all that media coverage, coverage, coverage, coverage, but. 1:24:18.280 --> 1:24:21.280 They didn't tell you so it was. It was a 1:24:21.400 --> 1:24:22.640 boat carrying. 1:24:22.280 --> 1:24:23.320 Like seven people. 1:24:23.400 --> 1:24:29.200 Seven people, yeah people, they only saved like a hundred 1:24:29.200 --> 1:24:30.000 of them. 1:24:30.000 --> 1:24:33.800 But they ain't talk about that. Why because they brown people. Man. 1:24:34.200 --> 1:24:37.040 Yeah, it's like anybody, I mean, anybody that's not of 1:24:37.120 --> 1:24:38.120 importance to them. 1:24:38.160 --> 1:24:38.320 Bro. 1:24:39.040 --> 1:24:40.760 They feel like they can get away with it all 1:24:40.840 --> 1:24:45.840 most and sometimes they hide stuff in plain sight. Like 1:24:45.880 --> 1:24:47.640 they've been talking. I know you don't like shit like, 1:24:47.880 --> 1:24:51.040 but I gotta talk about this is real they're talking about. 1:24:51.040 --> 1:24:54.080 It's the moon. They don't found another moon that's been 1:24:54.120 --> 1:24:56.880 following the Earth for the last thousand years, right, and 1:24:56.960 --> 1:24:58.719 you just discovered it? How you know it's been following 1:24:58.760 --> 1:25:01.880 the Earth for a thousand years? Then just discovered it? Right? 1:25:02.240 --> 1:25:02.439 Man? 1:25:02.479 --> 1:25:05.240 I don't believe no motherfuckers still walked on the moon, 1:25:06.160 --> 1:25:08.760 you know what I mean. I always look at that 1:25:08.880 --> 1:25:11.679 picture they showed us in school. They put the flag 1:25:11.760 --> 1:25:14.559 in the moon. Is it any oxygen on the moon? 1:25:15.120 --> 1:25:17.160 How's the motherfucking flag floating? 1:25:17.439 --> 1:25:19.760 That's what I'm saying. It's a lot of little stuff. 1:25:19.520 --> 1:25:22.320 Like you know what I'm saying, Like you ain't the 1:25:22.360 --> 1:25:23.200 moon high. 1:25:23.200 --> 1:25:24.439 Fuck with that ship? Man? 1:25:24.520 --> 1:25:29.400 Ain't because like I said, when it comes to this 1:25:30.040 --> 1:25:35.240 thing that we call the government and presidents and fucking 1:25:35.880 --> 1:25:42.439 congressmen and ship. That's another world that that we know nothing. 1:25:42.479 --> 1:25:45.599 When you be seeing all these motherfucking shows and secret 1:25:45.720 --> 1:25:51.679 layers and project xes and all this shit, they ain't 1:25:51.720 --> 1:25:54.360 showing you that ship for nothing, So you could be 1:25:54.400 --> 1:25:56.840 you would be a damn fool to believe half the 1:25:56.880 --> 1:25:59.800 ship they tell you in the news, because it's all 1:26:00.040 --> 1:26:04.360 too It's all to pull the wall over your eyes 1:26:04.479 --> 1:26:06.680 or to switch and root tactic, you like if you 1:26:06.680 --> 1:26:09.320 ain't started playing the game and shit and if you 1:26:09.360 --> 1:26:11.240 ain't paying attention a nigga. 1:26:11.760 --> 1:26:14.720 Shell game like. But like you said, though, bro, a 1:26:14.720 --> 1:26:19.280 lot of people don't have the cognitive skills to understand like, 1:26:19.400 --> 1:26:22.280 ain't no Austin, how's the flag just waving? 1:26:22.400 --> 1:26:22.600 Like that? 1:26:22.960 --> 1:26:23.120 Right? 1:26:23.439 --> 1:26:25.400 You feel what I'm saying, how's the flag waving? So 1:26:26.120 --> 1:26:27.840 you got this other thing. And then they said that 1:26:27.880 --> 1:26:30.320 there was a big ass they've been talking about. It's 1:26:30.320 --> 1:26:32.280 a spaceship with something up there. But I'm gonna tell 1:26:32.280 --> 1:26:35.760 you like this, bro, it's so much shit that they 1:26:35.840 --> 1:26:37.760 hired for much dog. I think if they did tell 1:26:37.840 --> 1:26:40.479 us the truth, Dog would probably be mass chaos out here. Dog, 1:26:40.600 --> 1:26:43.439 the world we barely hanging on by three anyway. 1:26:43.520 --> 1:26:47.240 Dog, it's gonna be mass chaos anyway. 1:26:47.439 --> 1:26:49.599 Yeah, because they created Yeah, you. 1:26:49.479 --> 1:26:52.320 Know what I mean, because they want to depopularize the earth. 1:26:53.000 --> 1:26:54.960 They wanted you know what I mean, They want as 1:26:55.080 --> 1:26:58.000 less people as possible. 1:26:58.880 --> 1:27:01.120 Like they's gonna be here the monitory. 1:27:01.200 --> 1:27:03.000 They don't care the dog. I'm gonna tell you something 1:27:03.040 --> 1:27:05.920 what I notice about white folks. I got a homeboy, right, 1:27:06.439 --> 1:27:08.880 cool dude. Me and his son played football together. He's 1:27:08.920 --> 1:27:11.680 a billionaire. Doront flew on his jet with him and 1:27:11.680 --> 1:27:15.679 everything else like that. Cool dude. He owns the brewery. 1:27:15.800 --> 1:27:17.519 If you ever seen that brewery, it's on the two 1:27:17.520 --> 1:27:19.720 team to sixty Freeway. It's like on the two team 1:27:19.760 --> 1:27:23.240 to six or five. Yeah, the Midder Brewing Company. He 1:27:23.280 --> 1:27:26.040 owns that land right there, right, And he was saying, yeah, 1:27:26.040 --> 1:27:27.920 their lease is up. I'm about to you know, I'm 1:27:27.960 --> 1:27:30.559 about to probably sign them into another seventy five year lease. 1:27:31.080 --> 1:27:33.920 And this dude like sixty five. Dog, I'm thinking, I'm like, man, 1:27:33.960 --> 1:27:35.760 you doing that bus. You ain't gonna be He said, no, 1:27:35.920 --> 1:27:39.799 but my grandchildren be here, my great them folks playing 1:27:39.800 --> 1:27:43.160 the head dog. They playing We sitting up here thinking 1:27:43.200 --> 1:27:45.760 about what we go do tomorrow. By the guy, them 1:27:45.840 --> 1:27:48.240 dudes is playing in thirty forty fifty years ahead. In 1:27:48.280 --> 1:27:51.280 some cases, Dog and got they step. They're making sure 1:27:51.439 --> 1:27:55.160 that poverty never touches no part of their family, unless. 1:27:54.840 --> 1:27:58.320 It's kind of hard for our motherfucker who's struggling every day. 1:27:58.439 --> 1:28:02.760 On the day today, it's like I might not be 1:28:02.840 --> 1:28:05.400 here two days from now. But that's what I'm different 1:28:05.479 --> 1:28:08.679 for a motherfucker who's been handed a billion dollar company 1:28:08.720 --> 1:28:11.479 from the time he was a fucking toddler or some 1:28:11.560 --> 1:28:14.519 shit like that. That's the difference in people want you 1:28:14.600 --> 1:28:19.120 to be able to think on the same aspect, But niggas, shit, 1:28:19.439 --> 1:28:22.479 I'm struggling to put fucking food on the table. 1:28:22.560 --> 1:28:25.960 Thing about this dude though, he what's funny is he 1:28:26.600 --> 1:28:29.240 I think got his ged. He's not no college. He's 1:28:29.280 --> 1:28:31.559 a dude from New Jersey. That's how I mean him 1:28:31.600 --> 1:28:34.639 got cool. He just the fear of poverty kept him going. 1:28:34.720 --> 1:28:37.040 He having to help have somebody to help him out 1:28:37.080 --> 1:28:39.920 to get into real estate, right, and he owns all 1:28:39.960 --> 1:28:41.960 his property and stuff now. But I was just looking 1:28:42.000 --> 1:28:44.240 at the way he maneuvered Dog in that cav That 1:28:44.360 --> 1:28:46.920 conversation with him kind of changed my perspective on a 1:28:46.920 --> 1:28:47.479 lot of things. 1:28:47.520 --> 1:28:51.040 Ain't that crazy how you just said it. His fear 1:28:51.080 --> 1:28:56.240 of poverty and his ambition. Somebody saw that and they 1:28:56.360 --> 1:28:58.880 fronted him to be able to do what he do. 1:28:59.360 --> 1:28:59.760 Fund him. 1:28:59.800 --> 1:29:00.000 Yep. 1:29:00.240 --> 1:29:02.160 How mean times a nigga gonna do that for you? 1:29:02.520 --> 1:29:04.280 Oh man, it never happened. We got a lot of 1:29:04.320 --> 1:29:07.040 geniuses in the hood. Now, times a nigga gonna see 1:29:07.080 --> 1:29:11.040 your potential and really go, you know something, I'm finna 1:29:11.080 --> 1:29:13.679 give you this five million and let you take off 1:29:13.880 --> 1:29:17.920 because I know twenty years from now you're finna be 1:29:18.040 --> 1:29:21.080 this motherfucker that We don't get motherfuckers to do like 1:29:21.160 --> 1:29:21.760 that for us. 1:29:21.840 --> 1:29:25.240 Oh, No, dog is big because a nigga been conditioned 1:29:25.320 --> 1:29:29.000 with that, that slave mentality to wear nobody do. 1:29:29.160 --> 1:29:31.400 You don't want to see the next nigga get a few. 1:29:31.920 --> 1:29:35.880 Easy did it for y'all. It wasn't no white motherfucking 1:29:36.439 --> 1:29:41.240 It wasn't Sony or Universal or whatever. Easy said, you 1:29:41.280 --> 1:29:44.559 know something, you feel me, But how many niggas really 1:29:44.680 --> 1:29:45.519 go you give me? 1:29:45.800 --> 1:29:47.680 Are steal your ideas? 1:29:47.840 --> 1:29:48.280 Cracking? 1:29:48.840 --> 1:29:51.120 Let me front you this million dollars and let you 1:29:51.160 --> 1:29:51.760 get it going. 1:29:52.080 --> 1:29:54.840 Leg. I'm gonna tell you something right now, Dog. And 1:29:55.120 --> 1:29:56.800 I don't like to brag a lot. Dog. 1:29:56.920 --> 1:29:57.599 I don't do this. 1:29:57.760 --> 1:29:59.880 I don't say this nothing to be bragging. Dog. But 1:30:02.640 --> 1:30:09.240 we gave, we helped launch math off. Who else we 1:30:09.280 --> 1:30:12.000 don't have. Man, it don't been so many big podcast 1:30:12.160 --> 1:30:14.800 dog that I initially have my hand in and gave them. 1:30:14.800 --> 1:30:18.720 They send off and they went on to become successful podcasts. 1:30:18.840 --> 1:30:21.080 I look at companies, Dogs, some of these guys they 1:30:21.080 --> 1:30:24.160 gonna get five or six million dollars in funding, twelve 1:30:24.200 --> 1:30:25.840 for sex sess, give them some money. I was like, Man, 1:30:25.840 --> 1:30:28.040 these niggas ain't ded half the shit I did, Dog, 1:30:28.439 --> 1:30:30.120 and they gonna give them some money. Everything I don't 1:30:30.160 --> 1:30:32.120 did just done been off the monkey help. So you know, 1:30:32.160 --> 1:30:34.280 like he said, with the shelves and the motherfucking thing, 1:30:34.720 --> 1:30:35.920 I'm gonna make some shit happen. 1:30:36.000 --> 1:30:36.240 Dog. 1:30:36.360 --> 1:30:38.439 We don't get them same opportunities. Dog. 1:30:39.120 --> 1:30:41.360 So I'm glad to see brothers like you when y'all 1:30:41.360 --> 1:30:43.479 do get them positioned. Man, y'all do go back and 1:30:43.520 --> 1:30:46.280 try to lift some brothers up, you know what I mean? 1:30:46.680 --> 1:30:49.280 And I wish our brothers would appreciate that more when 1:30:49.280 --> 1:30:52.679 they do get that lift up off the ground. Because 1:30:53.680 --> 1:30:55.439 you could pick any number of people to get that. 1:30:55.680 --> 1:30:57.920 They've been chosen though, so they got to represent so 1:30:58.000 --> 1:30:59.599 they can go back and get somebody, because you can't 1:30:59.600 --> 1:31:02.240 even drag everybody in the building by yourself. But if 1:31:02.280 --> 1:31:04.599 you get if you pull ten people up and they 1:31:04.640 --> 1:31:06.880 go get another ten people and eventually everybody go get 1:31:06.960 --> 1:31:09.840 up there, right, you know what I'm saying. You know 1:31:09.840 --> 1:31:11.720 what I'm saying. So what you got, what you got 1:31:11.760 --> 1:31:12.320 cracking out? 1:31:12.360 --> 1:31:12.559 Dog? 1:31:12.760 --> 1:31:14.280 What you got you about to blast off with? 1:31:14.640 --> 1:31:17.200 I got a little free mixtape, man. I just you know, 1:31:17.600 --> 1:31:21.160 was exercising my lyrical skills a little bit and uh 1:31:21.360 --> 1:31:24.439 just put out a little mixtape car Too Easy. 1:31:25.160 --> 1:31:27.280 I mean it's a little mixtape. 1:31:26.680 --> 1:31:31.360 Of where I took songs that artists been paying homage 1:31:31.360 --> 1:31:34.280 to bomb Thus in harmony, you know what I mean. So, 1:31:34.360 --> 1:31:36.320 and it's artists that I would like to work with 1:31:36.439 --> 1:31:38.799 as well. So what I did was took the songs 1:31:38.800 --> 1:31:42.519 that they took from us, put new verses on they shit, And. 1:31:42.760 --> 1:31:44.120 That's you know what I'm saying. 1:31:44.200 --> 1:31:47.360 And just to let people know that you know, I'm 1:31:47.439 --> 1:31:51.840 still I'm still you know, rapping is is my love, 1:31:52.000 --> 1:31:54.280 you know what I mean, Like putting them words together, 1:31:54.479 --> 1:31:55.400 telling the story. 1:31:56.080 --> 1:31:57.320 I love that, you know what I mean. 1:31:57.360 --> 1:32:00.400 So I got the mixtape, man, and that's something for 1:32:00.520 --> 1:32:04.080 free from my fans. You can download that on live 1:32:04.160 --> 1:32:05.360 mixtapes dot. 1:32:05.160 --> 1:32:06.519 Com, you know what I mean. 1:32:06.560 --> 1:32:09.960 But I got an album coming out too, called Hypnotic Rhythms. 1:32:10.439 --> 1:32:11.040 You know what I mean. 1:32:11.160 --> 1:32:15.920 So Hypnotic Rhythms. My first single was called Pillar, and 1:32:15.960 --> 1:32:19.080 that'll be out later this summer, you know what I'm saying. 1:32:19.120 --> 1:32:23.400 So I'm doing that, man, Harmony House Entertainment. My girl 1:32:23.479 --> 1:32:26.479 got her podcast that's about to come out called Tipping 1:32:26.560 --> 1:32:30.759 with Tiny. That's hard, Yeah, Tipping with Tiny and Minds 1:32:30.880 --> 1:32:33.680 is lounging with Lazy. So we do a little partnership 1:32:33.720 --> 1:32:37.080 with that and kind of intertwined with each other sometimes 1:32:37.120 --> 1:32:37.519 on that. 1:32:37.640 --> 1:32:41.120 You know what I mean. Man, My kids, you know, 1:32:41.200 --> 1:32:43.599 we talked about the kids. They doing music. 1:32:43.720 --> 1:32:46.760 You know, I'm just getting ready for this thirty year 1:32:46.960 --> 1:32:51.000 anniversary for Bone Thugs and Harmony ninety fours, the thirtieth year. 1:32:51.400 --> 1:32:53.920 Man, we need that movie, doog. We need a Bone 1:32:53.960 --> 1:32:56.400 Thugs movie, though, we need to actually MC eight fucking 1:32:56.400 --> 1:32:59.120 movie too though. It's so many incredible stories and hip 1:32:59.120 --> 1:33:00.040 hop dog that can. 1:32:59.880 --> 1:33:03.960 Be man, man, it'll be an honor eight n R movie. 1:33:04.040 --> 1:33:07.120 Oh yeah, definitely, I'm with the part definitely, you know 1:33:07.160 --> 1:33:10.080 what I'm saying. So play me a little easy or something. 1:33:10.200 --> 1:33:10.960 You know what I'm saying. 1:33:12.040 --> 1:33:14.519 You're doing the bio pic, you know, and our movie 1:33:14.600 --> 1:33:19.600 is basically an aliu from the NWA movie is. 1:33:19.640 --> 1:33:21.959 One being is one in production right now. 1:33:23.240 --> 1:33:26.200 Not in production, but the writing part of. 1:33:26.600 --> 1:33:28.599 Oh that's dope, man, that's cracking. 1:33:28.760 --> 1:33:32.800 So the idea of the bio pick it pick up 1:33:32.880 --> 1:33:34.840 where NWA left off at. 1:33:34.920 --> 1:33:35.599 You know what I'm saying. 1:33:35.600 --> 1:33:41.000 If you all remember in the movie, DJ Yeller was 1:33:41.080 --> 1:33:44.839 giving Easy the mixtape he was giving him East nineteen 1:33:44.920 --> 1:33:49.200 ninety ninety times. He died before he heard the finished take. 1:33:50.000 --> 1:33:54.240 So at the end of that movie, when he passed away, 1:33:54.920 --> 1:33:59.360 he was let East nineteen ninety nine Eternal album was 1:33:59.400 --> 1:34:02.719 sitting right there on on his desk that he never 1:34:02.800 --> 1:34:05.240 got to hear, you know what I'm saying. So that's 1:34:05.439 --> 1:34:07.720 how we pick it up. That's that's the alley oop. 1:34:07.800 --> 1:34:10.320 I feel like n W a through us on the 1:34:10.360 --> 1:34:11.080 movie side. 1:34:11.160 --> 1:34:14.640 You know that's hard that their attention to detail was 1:34:14.680 --> 1:34:19.360 like that, dog exactly, that's hard. Dog. I really hope, man, 1:34:19.680 --> 1:34:22.400 because I know that's gonna be a massive movie. Y'all 1:34:22.400 --> 1:34:25.599 got a fan based that's incredible, Dog, y'all fan based, 1:34:25.600 --> 1:34:28.360 and y'all fans them type of fans that they'll fight for, y'all. 1:34:28.439 --> 1:34:31.920 Definitely, Man, I definitely appreciate our fans, man. 1:34:32.000 --> 1:34:34.680 You know, the diversity of our fans. It ain't just 1:34:34.800 --> 1:34:35.680 like a. 1:34:35.600 --> 1:34:40.679 Lot of hip hop artists like it be like black 1:34:40.880 --> 1:34:47.439 or are we got diverse Mexicans love bone thugs and 1:34:47.960 --> 1:34:53.880 white people love Hispanics, uh, man, Asians like our crowd 1:34:53.880 --> 1:34:57.200 be so diverse man. And and like you said, they 1:34:57.240 --> 1:34:59.880 gung hop for so we appreciate. 1:34:59.360 --> 1:35:00.000 That, y'all. 1:35:00.080 --> 1:35:04.760 Y'all, y'all hip hop contribution was definitely not stereotyped to 1:35:04.920 --> 1:35:10.040 one particular crowd. You can say like y'all was one 1:35:10.080 --> 1:35:14.920 of them international hip hop artists, you feel me? So yeah, 1:35:14.960 --> 1:35:17.439 they have to be able to respect that, yeah, dog. 1:35:17.760 --> 1:35:19.719 You know what one more things, A lot of niggas 1:35:19.720 --> 1:35:23.400 who don't make it that far hip hop game is concerned. 1:35:24.040 --> 1:35:24.920 Know a lot of them. 1:35:25.040 --> 1:35:29.400 You know that niggas who were left underground so to speak. 1:35:29.760 --> 1:35:32.760 So to be able to come from just hip hop 1:35:32.800 --> 1:35:34.880 period and then be able to make it to like 1:35:34.960 --> 1:35:38.320 you said, y'all have probably been some everywhere all around 1:35:38.400 --> 1:35:39.960 the world with this hip hop shit. 1:35:41.200 --> 1:35:44.120 Yeah, coming from Cleveland, you know. 1:35:44.400 --> 1:35:46.679 You's some crazy shit. Though you think about it, y'all 1:35:46.680 --> 1:35:52.320 work with Easy, Tupac and Biggie like those are legend. 1:35:52.439 --> 1:35:55.160 Those are like they immortalized now. Dog, you know, risk 1:35:55.200 --> 1:35:58.160 and peace, but y'all work with all of them. Dog, 1:35:59.840 --> 1:36:01.400 do you ever just sit up in bed at night 1:36:01.400 --> 1:36:04.880 and be like, can't tell me nigga nigga? 1:36:05.000 --> 1:36:07.599 And it was you know that's that's that's that's part 1:36:07.640 --> 1:36:11.040 of the seal, the deal of the legacy, definitely, you 1:36:11.040 --> 1:36:13.679 know what I'm saying, to have like and for them 1:36:13.680 --> 1:36:16.080 to be beefing the where they were, you know what 1:36:16.080 --> 1:36:17.000 I mean, For us. 1:36:16.840 --> 1:36:21.080 To not be involved in. 1:36:20.160 --> 1:36:26.040 The or dependent all that all the problems they was having. 1:36:26.080 --> 1:36:29.160 It was like being from Cleveland left us mutual right 1:36:29.200 --> 1:36:30.000 in order to. 1:36:30.800 --> 1:36:34.599 Man not on leave that ship, y'all. Y'all ship, y'all 1:36:34.600 --> 1:36:38.000 were protege ades the of the Godfather, you feel me. 1:36:38.600 --> 1:36:42.360 As far as what we concerned on the West coast. 1:36:42.479 --> 1:36:43.040 You give me. 1:36:43.240 --> 1:36:47.439 Everybody has their this is the Godfather or rap or whatever. 1:36:47.479 --> 1:36:49.880 But as far as we're concerned on the West Coast 1:36:50.240 --> 1:36:53.000 with our ship, y'all came from the streets. 1:36:53.040 --> 1:36:54.360 We came for Easy. 1:36:54.400 --> 1:36:59.040 Eas looked at around the world as that motherfucker man. 1:36:59.280 --> 1:37:03.760 You feel me like Easy opened the door, not just 1:37:03.800 --> 1:37:06.680 for for shit. Easy is what made me want of 1:37:06.760 --> 1:37:10.000 motherfucking god damn. He is what made me go nigga. 1:37:10.040 --> 1:37:13.840 You could rap about the neighborhood. Oh, I could rap 1:37:13.880 --> 1:37:17.160 about the one time and selling crack, and I could 1:37:17.240 --> 1:37:18.040 rap about. 1:37:17.800 --> 1:37:20.200 Blasting and claiming the hood. 1:37:20.360 --> 1:37:24.040 Oh my god, you just hope because at that point, 1:37:24.400 --> 1:37:28.120 even though we were street niggas, it was utfo and 1:37:28.200 --> 1:37:29.759 it was you know, it was fun. 1:37:31.320 --> 1:37:34.120 It was even though you are nigga coming from the streets. 1:37:34.160 --> 1:37:37.360 You like, I don't do no shit like that, man, 1:37:37.439 --> 1:37:40.160 So what's what's my way in here? 1:37:40.560 --> 1:37:41.240 Way to wiggle in? 1:37:41.360 --> 1:37:44.280 When Easy came with boys in the hood like Nigga 1:37:44.439 --> 1:37:48.320 just nigga six four's and forty ounces and nigga l 1:37:49.000 --> 1:37:52.759 he opened up a whole fucking world for niggas who 1:37:52.800 --> 1:37:57.400 who like, I'm not that this is my identity and 1:37:57.600 --> 1:38:00.519 so he opened that door for to see him. W's 1:38:00.600 --> 1:38:04.599 for the bones for the above, the laws for the man, 1:38:05.000 --> 1:38:08.160 a gang of niggas man that street ship for sure. 1:38:08.240 --> 1:38:12.000 Let me ask you this, Lake, y'all ain't never collaborated 1:38:12.000 --> 1:38:16.040 with doctor dra Nope, I wonder what ain't happened. 1:38:16.040 --> 1:38:16.639 Though, I got a. 1:38:16.600 --> 1:38:20.240 Couple of tracks from Dre that I wasn't never able, 1:38:20.439 --> 1:38:25.559 we wasn't really able to use. But Drake thing was, 1:38:27.000 --> 1:38:32.400 when the opportunity was presenting itself, we was internally fucked up, 1:38:33.280 --> 1:38:35.040 you know what I mean, And that nigga. Dre was like, 1:38:35.080 --> 1:38:37.200 if I can't have all five of y'all, I ain't 1:38:37.240 --> 1:38:38.120 fucking with y'all. 1:38:39.360 --> 1:38:42.760 And that was that. So hopefully one day he'd get it. 1:38:42.800 --> 1:38:46.960 I know, all of us individually tried to you know, 1:38:47.040 --> 1:38:48.960 that's Drake who don't want to Dre b. 1:38:49.200 --> 1:38:52.880 Of course, you know what I'm saying, Like I see it. 1:38:52.960 --> 1:38:54.320 Yeah, he like, all I. 1:38:54.280 --> 1:38:56.639 Can't get all that, you know what I mean, because 1:38:56.680 --> 1:38:59.840 we all we all tried to go individually, but Dre, 1:39:00.479 --> 1:39:02.400 you know the way the word got back to me, 1:39:02.680 --> 1:39:04.840 Like Dre said, if he can't have all y'all in, 1:39:05.080 --> 1:39:06.559 you know, it's it's no point. 1:39:06.720 --> 1:39:08.760 We gotta make y'all can't make that happen. 1:39:08.520 --> 1:39:11.320 Though, shiit? What's up? Dre Holler. 1:39:12.600 --> 1:39:14.920 Gold Ship and we need cracking and we need another 1:39:14.960 --> 1:39:17.320 Bone album? You know, get it cracking? 1:39:18.400 --> 1:39:21.519 One call from Dre. Watch how fast all five niggas 1:39:21.560 --> 1:39:22.080 get together? 1:39:23.080 --> 1:39:24.080 That would be his story. 1:39:24.720 --> 1:39:26.360 That would be some cold ship Dog, and it got 1:39:26.439 --> 1:39:28.400 to happen on that next Bone album, Dog. 1:39:28.280 --> 1:39:30.160 Man, come on, let's preach on that broom. 1:39:30.200 --> 1:39:32.200 What's up with the next Bone album? Dog? When is 1:39:32.280 --> 1:39:34.479 that coming together? Man? We can get just get the 1:39:35.600 --> 1:39:37.880 one of the greatest hip hop group of all time, 1:39:37.920 --> 1:39:39.120 the symbol, one of the greats. 1:39:39.120 --> 1:39:40.519 So the Legacy project. 1:39:40.680 --> 1:39:43.960 Man, we're talking about the h a double album, a 1:39:44.080 --> 1:39:48.720 world tour, we're talking about a coffee table book, and 1:39:48.760 --> 1:39:50.880 we're talking about the bio pic. 1:39:51.360 --> 1:39:52.240 Oh yeah, that's cracked. 1:39:52.240 --> 1:39:52.800 You know what I'm saying? 1:39:53.040 --> 1:39:57.000 Four elements, you know what I mean of the world Wind, 1:39:57.160 --> 1:39:58.599 fire Water. 1:39:58.840 --> 1:40:03.000 I could definitely say if anybody can pull that ship off, y'all, y'all, 1:40:03.080 --> 1:40:06.160 that y'all one of them groups? Man, y'all want them 1:40:06.160 --> 1:40:07.360 international groups? 1:40:07.400 --> 1:40:11.600 Man, Man, I drop everything I'm doing for an opportunity 1:40:11.640 --> 1:40:14.839 to work with doctor Dre hell yeah, sure, my niggas 1:40:14.840 --> 1:40:15.400 feel the same. 1:40:15.479 --> 1:40:18.800 But you know what those dog, it's a couple of producers. 1:40:18.840 --> 1:40:22.120 Man always thought Bone would be real beastie on. I 1:40:22.560 --> 1:40:25.360 still think now y'all should keep I think y'all most 1:40:25.400 --> 1:40:29.439 impotent incarnation Dog is when y'all were Unique. I think 1:40:29.600 --> 1:40:31.320 Unique got that ship without. 1:40:31.120 --> 1:40:32.080 Chemistry right there. 1:40:32.160 --> 1:40:34.440 Yeah, I would like to see him somehow be involved. 1:40:34.760 --> 1:40:36.559 But I would love to see y'all go fuck with 1:40:36.600 --> 1:40:40.400 the Justice League. You know, people like that Justice League 1:40:40.400 --> 1:40:43.840 and the Timberlin that stuff would sound crazy. But keep 1:40:43.840 --> 1:40:46.200 a cat like Unique over that kind of you know, 1:40:47.120 --> 1:40:49.000 so the form of the all stay the same. You 1:40:49.000 --> 1:40:50.920 feel what I'm saying. So the saut still there. You 1:40:50.960 --> 1:40:51.639 feel what I'm saying. 1:40:51.760 --> 1:40:56.040 Unique Unique would be the overseer of the music period, 1:40:56.160 --> 1:40:58.360 you know what I mean. But to bring in all 1:40:58.400 --> 1:41:01.200 those did, man, that's a dream come true. That's the 1:41:01.240 --> 1:41:02.600 way to close the doe for me. 1:41:02.960 --> 1:41:06.280 But y'all deserve that dough dog, y'all motherfucking bone thugs harmany. 1:41:06.600 --> 1:41:08.679 Like I always tell this man one of my things 1:41:08.680 --> 1:41:11.720 for him, I'm like, man, eight, we need to get 1:41:11.760 --> 1:41:14.920 you one more major album, my nigga, One more major ones. 1:41:15.000 --> 1:41:17.320 These ones is dope. He drops some incredible material. But 1:41:17.360 --> 1:41:20.320 this niggas nastier now than he was when he first 1:41:20.360 --> 1:41:23.320 came out. You feel what I'm saying, ain't nothing change, 1:41:23.479 --> 1:41:25.840 you know, win just get better with time exactly. 1:41:25.960 --> 1:41:28.360 But think about your little brother when you're working on 1:41:28.360 --> 1:41:32.080 that album. That's that's a bucket list right there too, 1:41:32.200 --> 1:41:32.800 you know what I mean? 1:41:32.960 --> 1:41:35.960 Like that, ain't nothing but a conversation dog that. 1:41:36.160 --> 1:41:38.599 Yeah, this dude, man, I just do it for just 1:41:39.800 --> 1:41:41.720 I'm just one of them niggas who came into hip 1:41:41.760 --> 1:41:45.400 hop because I loved it, and I didn't look at 1:41:45.400 --> 1:41:48.240 it for you know, the accolades and the and the 1:41:48.280 --> 1:41:50.800 fame and the and the money and all of that. 1:41:51.160 --> 1:41:53.240 I just wanted to make records, man, you know what 1:41:53.280 --> 1:41:56.720 I'm saying. I thought I was gonna still be a 1:41:56.760 --> 1:41:59.760 gang banging, dope dealing nigga on the block. Just I 1:41:59.800 --> 1:42:02.680 was gonna make records and shit, I never looked at 1:42:02.680 --> 1:42:06.040 it as being where a nigga has been or where 1:42:06.160 --> 1:42:10.240 nigga's going to. But you know, we credited. It's been 1:42:10.280 --> 1:42:15.799 here for fifty years. I came into the game early 1:42:16.439 --> 1:42:18.680 and it's just been the love of it, you know. 1:42:18.720 --> 1:42:20.800 What I'm saying. So that's what keep a nigga going. 1:42:21.320 --> 1:42:24.599 It's not so much as trying to find that next 1:42:24.600 --> 1:42:29.120 big payday off of hip hop. Is just now with 1:42:29.280 --> 1:42:32.360 all that niggas have contributed, just to be able to 1:42:32.400 --> 1:42:34.559 be honored and respected as going. 1:42:36.760 --> 1:42:39.160 Yeah, that nigga was you feel me? You know? 1:42:39.520 --> 1:42:42.519 And sometimes, like you said, you see all these lists 1:42:42.920 --> 1:42:46.120 and you see all these motherfuckers with their opinions about 1:42:46.479 --> 1:42:48.960 who is the greatest and who is this and who 1:42:49.040 --> 1:42:52.280 is that? But how can that how official can that 1:42:52.360 --> 1:42:56.559 shit be? Because my idea of the greatest might not 1:42:56.680 --> 1:42:59.800 be yours or might not be steals And that's not 1:42:59.880 --> 1:43:01.520 the discredit to motherfucker. 1:43:01.560 --> 1:43:05.400 That's what the hell? Y'all? That twenty six, twenty one, 1:43:05.720 --> 1:43:07.280 twenty one, man, that's way too. 1:43:07.240 --> 1:43:08.640 All the matter of opinion. 1:43:08.760 --> 1:43:11.599 But you know what, though, did that come from? Because 1:43:11.640 --> 1:43:13.120 some of these journalists ain't. 1:43:12.920 --> 1:43:15.920 Because like Bro, not to cut you off, but who 1:43:16.040 --> 1:43:20.040 was that number one outcast? And no disrespect an outcast 1:43:20.080 --> 1:43:23.400 at all? But I listened to more Bone than I 1:43:23.520 --> 1:43:28.519 listened to outcasts. I mean, that's just no disrespect. I 1:43:28.560 --> 1:43:33.920 love the outcast, but past a certain era I didn't 1:43:33.960 --> 1:43:38.120 listen to outcasts anymore because it just wasn't my flow. 1:43:38.479 --> 1:43:41.880 You take their first motherfucking album, banged it all day 1:43:42.120 --> 1:43:42.599 like it was. 1:43:42.680 --> 1:43:43.240 You get me. 1:43:43.720 --> 1:43:47.559 But if you want to compare that to the speaker box, 1:43:47.880 --> 1:43:50.719 you know record, I really didn't bang that as much, 1:43:51.200 --> 1:43:53.600 but you get me. You want to compare that to 1:43:53.720 --> 1:43:57.559 Bone does in harmony. I banged every each nineteen ninety nine, 1:43:57.800 --> 1:43:59.720 and I banged out that month for the war out 1:43:59.800 --> 1:44:01.840 and my mother, we're so cold as my kids is 1:44:01.840 --> 1:44:04.360 getting hit to that now man. My son to play ball, 1:44:05.240 --> 1:44:07.559 and my son is the fireman. Man, my oldest son. 1:44:08.360 --> 1:44:10.679 They come playing me some of your stuff sometimes, like Dad, 1:44:10.680 --> 1:44:14.160 what you know about this? I'm like, boy, shit down someone. 1:44:14.320 --> 1:44:18.680 I think the younger generation is starting to maybe appreciate 1:44:19.439 --> 1:44:24.640 some of the beginnings of hip hop. You hear me, 1:44:24.920 --> 1:44:27.000 because I couldn't get my son to listen to shit 1:44:27.120 --> 1:44:29.639 that we played. But just like you said, he'll come 1:44:29.680 --> 1:44:32.240 in there and play some knives, he'll play some biggie, 1:44:32.320 --> 1:44:35.400 he'll play some of my ship. You know, I guess 1:44:35.439 --> 1:44:38.320 because sometimes the motherfucker need to be refreshed and they 1:44:38.600 --> 1:44:43.320 years need to hear you quality. Chris Love DJ Quick 1:44:43.400 --> 1:44:46.920 though like his music like Quick said, I like Quick 1:44:46.960 --> 1:44:49.759 got the beats or talk about Quicks beats and stuff. 1:44:49.760 --> 1:44:52.439 So he getting hip, but you gotta remember for them, 1:44:52.520 --> 1:44:55.120 that's like us listening to our appearance records, like when 1:44:55.120 --> 1:44:57.320 my mama played Curtis Mayfield in the House. 1:44:57.439 --> 1:45:01.000 Al Green. I grew up loving at MU two and 1:45:01.120 --> 1:45:06.479 now I probably listened to fifty to fifty nineties hip hop, nineties, 1:45:06.479 --> 1:45:08.720 early two thousands hip hop, and more Al Green and 1:45:08.760 --> 1:45:10.120 more oldies than anything else. 1:45:10.880 --> 1:45:13.360 Yeah, me too, I listened to the oldies too. And 1:45:13.479 --> 1:45:15.360 just for the record, if I was making the list 1:45:15.400 --> 1:45:19.000 here to be, run DMC would probably be the first 1:45:19.000 --> 1:45:19.800 one on my list. 1:45:19.880 --> 1:45:22.439 I mean you were just saying that yesterday. You know what, 1:45:22.479 --> 1:45:25.400 bro I was arguing with the Glasses the other day 1:45:25.400 --> 1:45:28.080 because Glasses a baby, you know he you know, he 1:45:28.120 --> 1:45:29.800 a grown man, but he a baby in his hip 1:45:29.840 --> 1:45:33.160 hop stuff. Right. He was trying to argue me that 1:45:34.040 --> 1:45:36.599 l L was way more of a fact than run DMC. 1:45:36.760 --> 1:45:38.760 I said, bro l L was the man, but he 1:45:38.800 --> 1:45:41.240 didn't come to the man until after run DMC had 1:45:41.560 --> 1:45:44.559 left the throne. Almost then. Was the first cast that 1:45:44.600 --> 1:45:46.599 had a shoe deal dog. They were the first ones 1:45:46.640 --> 1:45:49.200 that had Adidas Deal Dog. They were the first ones. 1:45:49.520 --> 1:45:52.880 They dominated MTV when MTV first came out. That Walked 1:45:52.880 --> 1:45:55.000 This Way record was probably one of the biggest records, 1:45:55.200 --> 1:45:57.160 was the biggest look for hip hop at that time, 1:45:57.200 --> 1:45:59.920 and had that record not been made, hip hop probably 1:46:00.000 --> 1:46:02.120 wouldn't win as far as it did because to introduced 1:46:02.160 --> 1:46:03.639 hip hop to mainstream America. 1:46:04.360 --> 1:46:07.000 Glass is my bro too, but I would tell him 1:46:07.200 --> 1:46:14.360 watch Crush Groove. It was just saying run DMC. Them 1:46:14.520 --> 1:46:17.960 was demanded. They was headlining back then. And then LLLL 1:46:18.120 --> 1:46:21.599 had to come in with the little radio Fox, remember 1:46:21.640 --> 1:46:22.920 that ship Fox. 1:46:22.920 --> 1:46:24.280 He had to. He had to. 1:46:24.880 --> 1:46:27.800 That's how russelling them found ll and signed them to death. 1:46:28.120 --> 1:46:30.559 He had the audition for his that. 1:46:30.640 --> 1:46:35.240 Was basically like his little uh his promo. The Beastie 1:46:35.240 --> 1:46:37.360 Boys was in there signing him to he had I 1:46:37.520 --> 1:46:40.599 needed to beat out. Yeah. They figured, man, what better 1:46:40.640 --> 1:46:43.120 way than to promote our first fucking artists. 1:46:43.640 --> 1:46:46.640 Yeah, put him in the fucking movie. It was brilliant. 1:46:46.960 --> 1:46:52.360 But run DMC, like, you gonna get the argument because 1:46:52.360 --> 1:46:56.280 it's fifty years and you know nowadays they got so 1:46:56.560 --> 1:46:59.599 many You get me. There's so many groups and there's 1:46:59.640 --> 1:47:02.640 so many But I think you have to give it 1:47:02.680 --> 1:47:08.960 to run DMC because it's like they they they show 1:47:09.120 --> 1:47:13.960 the motherfucker as far as a group is concerned, how 1:47:14.040 --> 1:47:16.479 you really can make it, and they made use the 1:47:16.560 --> 1:47:21.200 first tough times of him. Hell yeah, what motherfuckers was 1:47:21.360 --> 1:47:24.280 like hip hop is this way. 1:47:24.360 --> 1:47:27.040 They only played that ship on Saturdays. 1:47:27.280 --> 1:47:31.479 And they were able to break down the barriers of 1:47:31.640 --> 1:47:38.360 being able for four niggas like Outcasts and Wou Tang 1:47:38.560 --> 1:47:42.280 and comptence most wanted in n w A. You get 1:47:42.320 --> 1:47:47.040 me without them setting the motherfucking path and kicking down 1:47:47.080 --> 1:47:53.320 the doors of the stereotype of nigga music and HEU motherfuckers. 1:47:53.360 --> 1:47:55.760 You gotta understand where hip hop was at the time, 1:47:56.000 --> 1:47:59.160 Like I don't think n w A got rated nowhere 1:47:59.160 --> 1:48:01.679 as high as they should Dog because they did. 1:48:01.800 --> 1:48:02.960 Man that they did. 1:48:03.120 --> 1:48:06.080 You know, the run n w A down as low 1:48:06.120 --> 1:48:09.320 as they did Dog was almost like disrespectful because to me, 1:48:10.120 --> 1:48:12.639 if I'm gonna put the top five together, I'm always 1:48:12.640 --> 1:48:15.679 tell people it don't matter where you number that because 1:48:15.720 --> 1:48:17.400 I can't say one is great than the other. But 1:48:18.280 --> 1:48:20.640 you have to have in your top ten. Man, if 1:48:20.680 --> 1:48:27.040 you don't have motherfucking n w A motherfucking E P 1:48:27.280 --> 1:48:33.360 M DR. Motherfucking just all those pivotal groups, many boys, 1:48:33.960 --> 1:48:36.439 all these people, Dog, because those people are the reason 1:48:36.479 --> 1:48:38.840 for the season. You can't have fucking C and D 1:48:38.920 --> 1:48:39.679 before A and B. 1:48:39.680 --> 1:48:39.840 Bro. 1:48:41.040 --> 1:48:43.880 Well, you know, like them lists that ain't nothing but 1:48:43.960 --> 1:48:45.040 a list, man, Like. 1:48:46.640 --> 1:48:50.200 Yes, run DMC, motherfucking thing, you know, even the Wu 1:48:50.280 --> 1:48:52.720 Tang clan. But to me, Bone is worthy of that 1:48:52.840 --> 1:48:58.320 top ten consideration because after you get past all of them, right, 1:48:58.640 --> 1:49:00.800 run DMCs and all them things, you come up into 1:49:00.840 --> 1:49:04.920 that early late nineties, Dog, you gotta put Bone there 1:49:04.960 --> 1:49:07.160 because that was like the next evolution of hip hop 1:49:07.760 --> 1:49:10.320 because it brought a new flow in. Wasn't nobody everything 1:49:10.600 --> 1:49:13.120 was margs and the march and then the ben the 1:49:13.200 --> 1:49:15.120 thing the same with them that came to say that 1:49:15.360 --> 1:49:19.559 the brother y'all came with them, you know what I'm saying. 1:49:19.920 --> 1:49:22.639 And it was so fresh, but you understood everything y'all 1:49:22.720 --> 1:49:25.360 was saying. And that ship was so dope, dog, and 1:49:25.360 --> 1:49:28.280 the music was melodic, you almost smoke you be right 1:49:28.320 --> 1:49:29.080 down the street your light. 1:49:30.360 --> 1:49:33.080 Well, all I gotta say, man, is you know we 1:49:33.120 --> 1:49:36.880 ain't done yet. So you know they could they can, 1:49:37.000 --> 1:49:41.799 they can reserve their opinions for when we're done, because 1:49:42.360 --> 1:49:44.960 you know, to see a list like that make me 1:49:45.040 --> 1:49:47.559 pick up the phone and call my brothers, like, y'all, 1:49:48.000 --> 1:49:51.040 y'all want to show these niggas who do what you 1:49:51.120 --> 1:49:51.719 know what I'm saying. 1:49:51.760 --> 1:49:54.879 So we ain't done so they and it really don't. 1:49:54.720 --> 1:49:58.280 Matter, man, I've been able to take care of my 1:49:58.400 --> 1:49:59.960 family off this whole. 1:50:00.080 --> 1:50:03.000 I say that about all the times I think about 1:50:03.040 --> 1:50:06.360 I got fucked and money stolen and all that shit, 1:50:06.720 --> 1:50:08.320 and at the end of the day, I go, you 1:50:08.400 --> 1:50:14.920 know something, my son going to college. I'm still able 1:50:14.960 --> 1:50:18.200 to wake up every morning and do something that you know, 1:50:18.960 --> 1:50:22.800 you don't regret as far as God damn, I gotta 1:50:22.840 --> 1:50:25.439 get up today and I gotta you feel me. There's 1:50:25.479 --> 1:50:30.120 a lot of people who where it's nothing against the 1:50:30.360 --> 1:50:34.000 average motherfucker, there's a lot of motherfuckers who you know, 1:50:34.040 --> 1:50:35.920 it's a lot of people who have to get up 1:50:35.960 --> 1:50:37.080 and go through that shill. 1:50:37.240 --> 1:50:37.960 Yeah, we blessed. 1:50:38.840 --> 1:50:41.200 So to be blessed to be able to do something 1:50:41.240 --> 1:50:46.040 that you enjoy and and you know, you get to 1:50:46.280 --> 1:50:49.559 go on trips and you get to meet other people, 1:50:49.680 --> 1:50:52.680 and you know, the perks of comes with being an 1:50:52.880 --> 1:50:56.679 entertainer sometimes and you know you wouldn't traded for nothing. 1:50:56.800 --> 1:51:00.240 So we go through the roller coaster rides and sometimes 1:51:00.280 --> 1:51:04.640 to disrespect and sometimes not feeling like motherfuckers, give us 1:51:04.680 --> 1:51:07.559 all props for all what we have done for fucking 1:51:07.640 --> 1:51:09.600 hip hop. But at the end of the day, you go, 1:51:09.760 --> 1:51:12.080 so I go, you know what, so what right? 1:51:12.840 --> 1:51:13.639 It's a blessing. 1:51:13.760 --> 1:51:17.280 Yeah, I'm good, you feel me, I'm good, And none 1:51:17.280 --> 1:51:18.120 of that shit matters. 1:51:18.120 --> 1:51:19.719 An what they need to do, they need is start 1:51:19.800 --> 1:51:22.720 coming to the people really in the coach and asking 1:51:22.760 --> 1:51:25.519 about them. List cause to me, it would be like 1:51:25.680 --> 1:51:29.080 somebody coming to me asking me to make to create 1:51:29.120 --> 1:51:31.760 the top one hundred oldies of all time. I'm gonna 1:51:31.760 --> 1:51:33.720 feel like, in a way, I'm not qualified. I'm gonna 1:51:33.720 --> 1:51:37.040 go talk to my mama, my pops, my uncles and 1:51:37.200 --> 1:51:39.400 asked them what was going on because I didn't live 1:51:39.400 --> 1:51:41.120 in that time. So some of these little niggas that 1:51:41.200 --> 1:51:44.480 might be twenty twenty one, they don't understand the impact 1:51:44.479 --> 1:51:47.559 that a bone had, or the impact that a Wu 1:51:47.680 --> 1:51:50.280 Tang or run DMC for that matter, to them, is ancient. 1:51:50.560 --> 1:51:53.160 And I didn't realize how old hip hop was. The 1:51:53.240 --> 1:51:55.919 glasses told me one day because we were talking about sampling, 1:51:56.160 --> 1:51:57.960 and he said, no, big bro, that's too old. You 1:51:58.000 --> 1:52:00.920 got to go back to warren Z. I said, Warren 1:52:01.000 --> 1:52:02.720 g and them was just Yetter, that's biting, dog, And 1:52:02.720 --> 1:52:04.400 I thought about it. I said, that shit was twenty 1:52:04.400 --> 1:52:05.439 five thirty years ago. 1:52:05.520 --> 1:52:05.760 Dog. 1:52:06.320 --> 1:52:08.920 Yeah, we were sampling the ship out of Roger and them, 1:52:09.040 --> 1:52:11.479 you know what I mean, like it, uh all the 1:52:11.560 --> 1:52:14.880 funk that shit thirty years later we were sampling them. 1:52:14.960 --> 1:52:17.679 So and that's why I did the mixtape that I did, 1:52:17.720 --> 1:52:20.720 because I wanted the new artists to know that we 1:52:20.840 --> 1:52:25.320 appreciate them, you know, going in the crates and finally. 1:52:25.960 --> 1:52:28.000 That motherfucker so I could put it in our description. 1:52:28.200 --> 1:52:29.519 I got you, I got I put the. 1:52:29.520 --> 1:52:31.840 Links in the description, man, so we don't help you 1:52:31.960 --> 1:52:33.240 captive here long enough. 1:52:33.240 --> 1:52:33.479 Man. 1:52:34.120 --> 1:52:38.160 We appreciate y'all hanging out with us once again. Right yeah, 1:52:38.640 --> 1:52:42.320 and hey, y'all make sure, man, we gonna put the 1:52:42.320 --> 1:52:44.639 link to that mixtape down there. Man. Make sure y'all 1:52:44.680 --> 1:52:47.320 go bang that man and go support that and go 1:52:47.360 --> 1:52:50.599 flood doctor Dre's. I don't know if Trey too rich 1:52:50.640 --> 1:52:54.640 to fuck with Twitter anything. The staff and ship that 1:52:55.040 --> 1:52:57.040 so y'all just make sure y'all hit Dre up man 1:52:57.040 --> 1:52:59.360 telling them we need that bone thud collaboration. 1:52:59.479 --> 1:53:01.840 Man, Please, do you know what I'm saying? 1:53:02.320 --> 1:53:04.519 Let him know, Dre. I'm letting you know right now. 1:53:04.640 --> 1:53:08.519 Min we here, if the opportunity is there, were there? 1:53:09.280 --> 1:53:13.040 Well? Yeah and we gone. Jill Well, that concludes another 1:53:13.080 --> 1:53:15.519 episode of The Gainst the Chronicles podcast. 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