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Speaker 1: Bright.

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Speaker 2: All right, job.

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Speaker 3: All across the USC Compton watch Bay to LA, come

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Speaker 3: on to California, say from valley to valley.

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Speaker 2: We represent that Keller County.

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Speaker 3: So if you're keeping it real on your side of

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Speaker 3: your town, you're tuning into gainst the Chronicles Chronic Goals.

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Speaker 2: Be gonna tell you how we goals. If I lie,

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Speaker 2: my nose will grow like Pinocchio.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna tell you the truth and nothing but the truths.

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Speaker 4: The chronic goals.

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Speaker 2: This is not your average show. You're now tuned into

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Speaker 2: the rail mc.

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Speaker 3: Ain't big change and big spires.

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Speaker 2: Strictly from the streets.

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Speaker 4: We like to welcome you to another episode Against the

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Speaker 4: Chronicles podcast. Now I am Big Steal along with my

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Speaker 4: homeboy and today Man, we got one of my folks

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Speaker 4: in the studio with us. Man from the greatest city

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Speaker 4: on the motherfucking planet, from the City of Cleveland Man,

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Speaker 4: one of the most from one of the most iconic

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Speaker 4: groups of all time. Man don't been bit stole from emulated,

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Speaker 4: but never duplicated My mother Forucker, Homeboy Lazy Boom from

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Speaker 4: the Almighty Boone Thugs was cracking dog Man.

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Speaker 5: You know what it is, that Cleveland connection in the

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Speaker 5: building for sure.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 6: You know you're from the city, Dog, So I had

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Speaker 6: to give you the slide. You try to slide some

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Speaker 6: ship in there. Try to slide from the city, ub nigga.

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Speaker 6: They just c you are trads for he you.

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Speaker 4: Know what, Hey, this would always like this what I

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Speaker 4: tell him in the Homie Glasses. Without Ohio, it wouldn't

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Speaker 4: be no West Coast.

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Speaker 5: Music, her Man. We got the funk. Funk come from Ohio,

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Speaker 5: bottom line.

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Speaker 4: The funk come from Ohio, Dog. And we love California.

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Speaker 4: California is my home. I love it, love the people here. Oh,

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Speaker 4: don't say they pull your mic towards you, Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 4: check right there. Yeah. So you know, just with all

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Speaker 4: the funk Man from from Roger Trout and Man just

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Speaker 4: on everything that the West don't love and them.

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Speaker 6: Bray so much though played football. Get up body here.

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Speaker 4: Man, that hometown city.

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Speaker 6: But I'm at. I'm at to tell Maria to snatch

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Speaker 6: that drum machine out your house right now. You two

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Speaker 6: hip hop for be right there? Hey man, you know what,

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Speaker 6: I'm a brother, just love music. And you're coming from

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Speaker 6: the city of Cleveland, man like I come from.

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Speaker 4: Man. And I know you don't been asked this a

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Speaker 4: million times man, because y'all did something nobody else was

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Speaker 4: doing at that time. Y'all incorporated harmonies with the rhyming.

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Speaker 4: Where did y'all How did y'all come up with this ship?

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Speaker 5: I mean, you know, Cleveland is a singing city. You

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Speaker 5: Rual boys, all that whole R and B flavor was

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Speaker 5: my mom sings, so you know we come from We

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Speaker 5: come from that school. Born in the seventies, you know

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Speaker 5: what I'm saying. We grew up with the Temptations and

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Speaker 2: All them old school motown groups. You know what I mean.

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Speaker 5: It was embedded from our parents' music, you know what

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Speaker 5: want to be a singer. Although we were singers. We

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Speaker 5: did new addition, you know what I'm saying. We emulated

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Speaker 5: all that Michael Jackson New Edition. But in the streets,

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: If you was coming from the streets right, you.

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Speaker 4: What I'm saying.

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Speaker 6: You went from wanting to be the new edition in

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Man, and you from Claire Man, you all right

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Speaker 4: across from Glenfield, right, yeah, right across from Glenfield. I

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Speaker 2: Oh Man, Saint Clair, Saint Clair.

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Speaker 5: Like, people really don't know how segregated Cleveland really was.

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Speaker 5: Like when I came out to California, I was culture

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Speaker 5: shocked because you had Mexicans and different people were like

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Speaker 5: in Cleveland, it's all black.

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Speaker 2: It's all black beside Cleveland.

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Speaker 5: Like when you when you walk in them streets, right,

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Speaker 4: That was the funny thing about it. Because you have

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Speaker 4: school with him. Yeah, but he's stay on this side

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Speaker 4: and you really don't know why. It's just that, you

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Speaker 4: know when you walk through certain least for me because

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Speaker 4: I'm a little bit older than you. You used to

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Speaker 4: have the squabble. We used to have to have your

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Speaker 2: We went to uh we went to FDR, you know

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Speaker 5: So we had it out with Patrick Henry the other

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Speaker 5: so one of my great friends in life is named

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Speaker 5: Ken Dog Mighty More Thugg you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: So we used to have to squab with them niggas

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Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, Like in high schools, but

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Speaker 2: That was that side. That was that side. If you

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, man, I know.

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Speaker 6: Still coming out here from Cleveland and seeing how we

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Speaker 4: You know what, man, California is deceptive as a motherfucker

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Speaker 4: because as Lake and the tests, Cleveland is a ghettle

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Speaker 4: here you could be in a place that looked suburb

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Speaker 4: It's like if you a homeless nigga, or if you

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Speaker 4: winner you're dealing with. Ain't no money up in that motherfucker.

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Speaker 4: At least out of here, you can work a monkey

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Speaker 4: hustle out here. Nigga, go get him a job at

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Speaker 4: motherfucking Walmart, working at night, or a job. It's a

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Speaker 4: security guard some fucking where in Cleveland. If it ain't cracked,

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Speaker 4: it ain't crack. You ain't got no choice but either

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Speaker 5: When we first touched down out here, we touched down

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Speaker 2: And to me, that shit looked a nice yeah what

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Speaker 2: I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: So we walking to the store to go get bruise

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Speaker 5: and things like that, We're thinking it's okay. But niggas

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Speaker 5: if you're gonna be around here, you got to claim something.

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Speaker 5: Nigga like, we gotta protect you. And what I'm like,

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Speaker 5: I'm like, man, we ain't gonna be here long. We rappers,

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Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. Yeah, but like the sept

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Speaker 5: like you know, the projects in Cleveland look like the

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Speaker 5: projects out here, Like every California count is beautiful out Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 4: I used to think man living up and I used

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Speaker 4: to think man when I used to go visit homies

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you go up there. I mean, we don't even

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Speaker 4: But out here in California, Dog, that's the thing, everything

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Speaker 4: is is nice, man like. Cause I was in I

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Speaker 4: came to Long Beach in eighty eight, right, And the

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Speaker 4: the same kind of was the sack. You know what

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Speaker 4: I'm saying. Everything was about the sack at that time.

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Speaker 4: a zone or a fifty piece you know, fifty piece

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Speaker 1: You houstle.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, started hustling, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So we ain't We ain't know what they expect.

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Speaker 5: All you knew was minutes to society, you know what

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Speaker 5: I'm saying, watching y'all niggas on the movie.

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Speaker 2: So we we ain't know.

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Speaker 5: You know, all we heard was the gang, the uh,

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Speaker 5: So when we got out here, we ain't know. We

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Speaker 5: I'm from Cleveland.

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Speaker 2: Phone.

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Speaker 5: I just to let everybody know I left Cleveland. I

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Speaker 5: was eighteen years old.

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Speaker 4: You was like me. I was seventeen when I first came.

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Speaker 2: Out, forty nine this year. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: So the rest of my years I've been out here

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Speaker 5: in California embedded mean, So I'm a Cleveland, California nigga.

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Speaker 4: Exactly, niggas. I can't, man, I ain't lot. Last time

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Speaker 4: I went to the crib though, I couldn't do more.

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Speaker 4: I can't do past a week when I do, Man,

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Speaker 4: you can't. I can't do past a week because you

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Speaker 4: see it.

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Speaker 1: You can't.

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Speaker 4: Man. No, I love California though, no shit, yes, the shit.

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Speaker 1: What's the longest you stayed when you went back home?

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Speaker 4: You know what? Man? Once I make my runs and

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Speaker 4: go cause I got anties. Man, that's getting up in

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Speaker 4: the eighties and stuff. So I try to make get

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Speaker 4: Once I hit the family in Cleveland, then I go

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Speaker 4: out to Akron and all that stuff that looks around

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Speaker 4: Once I do that and see everybody straight, dog, I'm

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Speaker 4: ready to go. It's too slow.

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Speaker 2: My dude. Yeah, it's slow, man.

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Speaker 5: And then you know, like we still bringing the opportunities there,

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Speaker 5: you know what I mean, Like you know they like, well,

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Speaker 5: you know, do it from home doing, but all the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's hard because one of the things y'all

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Speaker 2: Didn't Yeah, man, most the headquarters was wild.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, man, What made y'all decide to just keep it

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Speaker 2: To bring it home anyway, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: Yeah for real, man, that's why. So because Cleveland, man

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Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, we always hurt, man.

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Speaker 4: I was mad. Then the motherfucker to Browns, and then

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Speaker 2: Was year Baltimore and won a chat, won a championship.

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Speaker 6: I felt like that should have been all harse like

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Speaker 4: What happened? Bro, I'm gonna tell you something about Cleveland.

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Speaker 6: You was a nigga who was you know, from the streets,

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Speaker 1: What happened?

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Speaker 4: no tell y'all. Possibly could have got picked up by

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Speaker 5: We had a choice though, we could have went to

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Speaker 1: We was a coin flip or was it like that

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Speaker 2: It was y'all nigga.

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Speaker 5: Y'all had this like we was coming to California because

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Speaker 5: Because of shit Snoop had just started, you know what

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Speaker 5: I'm saying. So doctor Dre like that whole influence that,

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Speaker 5: Like we was influent Cleveland, We was influenced by everything.

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Speaker 2: Had on dickies. Yeah we was.

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Speaker 5: We was California because we was on the block selling dope.

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Speaker 5: So oh man, here it was like that's where I

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Speaker 4: Hell, yeah, you got the same bug I did, man,

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Speaker 1: Didn't get the East Coast bug at all.

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Speaker 4: Ste You know what, No I messed with East Coast

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Speaker 4: told you when I heard six in the Morning and

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Speaker 4: sound exciting to me. I ain't trying to go somewhere

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Speaker 4: else where it's cold like it. He is here because

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Speaker 4: get some money. Absolutely, you feel what I'm saying. It's like,

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Speaker 4: if I'm gonna go to New York, you fuck around,

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Speaker 4: you might have a stretch, my nigga, you might have

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Speaker 4: I'd rather sleep in the car out here and this

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Speaker 6: So crazy, how something? You know the paths that some

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Speaker 4: But going to New York. Check this out there. If

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Speaker 4: But you know, I think at the end of the day, Man,

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Speaker 4: it be divine intervention.

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 4: I very much believe in God, man, and I think

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Speaker 4: just a feeling. Like when I heard Ice Tea, I

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Speaker 6: And you have a choice. Why Brod, did you have

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Speaker 6: because I played football. That was a little way out

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Speaker 6: I could have went into my grades is messed up.

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Speaker 6: I could have went to a little school in Kansas

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Speaker 4: Shit, you know, you know, I want them a little

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Speaker 6: They had healthy females, yeah, you know, and.

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Speaker 4: They had some fruit punch and some potato chips on

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Speaker 4: it's even more boring than Cleveland. Man, at least Cleveland

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Speaker 6: This generic said they had tato chips and fruit punch.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so either I'm gonna pick potato chips and fruit punks. Well,

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna go out there to wear the beach at

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Speaker 4: and the wear look exciting that I'm going out this

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Speaker 4: sighting scene because they ain't you know, I'm going to exacy.

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Speaker 4: They ain't bringing niggas on the recruiting trips. You know,

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Speaker 4: I just knew from what I saw on TV. Nigga,

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Speaker 4: I'm going out there with the palm trees at the girls.

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Speaker 4: And you just picked the JC and said, fuck it,

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Speaker 4: I'm head to that. I'm coming to Long b C.

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Speaker 4: And it was the best thing I ever did in

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Speaker 4: my life. Shut out the coach, will Shaw. This man

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Speaker 4: changed my life, you know what I mean? Man changed

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 4: I wound up doing some incredible things coming to California

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Speaker 4: that I know for sure would have been impeded in

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Speaker 4: Cleveland by a number of things. First, of all, we

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Speaker 4: got to go back to the lack of opportunity. I

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Speaker 4: You feel what I'm saying. They was really moving some things,

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Speaker 4: Shout out to my nigga, Teddy, he just came home.

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Speaker 4: He was just out of here, the one I brought

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Speaker 4: to the show in La Okay. You know me and

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Speaker 4: him that when I we first started hustling. Me and

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Speaker 4: was like, man, this is zip right here. You stupid

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Speaker 5: Yeah, niggas was throwing it away. Man out there in Cleveland.

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Speaker 5: You know what they say about Ohio, You go on vacation,

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Speaker 5: You go, they gonna, they gonna, they gonna get you

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Speaker 5: five hundred bens is average, you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 5: So I can blend in so that that that was

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Speaker 6: You thought that, you know, looking at you know, where

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Speaker 6: for sure. You know, we got some local boys who'd

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Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. Them niggas, we know he ain't.

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Speaker 6: We know he ain't no d boy, we know he

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Speaker 4: It was the worse than the people that's supposed to

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Speaker 2: Man, it was like fifty to fifty. You know what

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Speaker 5: You had the niggas that gun hope police, they'll give

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Speaker 5: But then his partner might be prejudice as hell, like

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Speaker 4: The mentality that the white folks. That's what I tell

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Speaker 4: behave and go have drinks. But you getting this car,

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's they see you and they say diddy

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Speaker 2: And to this day though, like they it's just born

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Speaker 5: When you raise like that, I'm saying, like when your

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Speaker 2: Hard to it's hard.

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Speaker 5: Like I even had friends that, you know, when I

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Speaker 5: you know what. I'm just like, you know, they just

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Speaker 4: How it was, especially with the busting program even and

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Speaker 4: Jefferson for junior high. I went to Clark Elementary for Elementary,

436
00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:15,480
Speaker 4: right and right across from Clark. Yeah, you went to Clark.

437
00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:16,240
Speaker 2: I went to Clark.

438
00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:18,560
Speaker 4: Yeah. It was a white supremacist thing right across the

439
00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:20,200
Speaker 4: street from Clark Elementary. I don't know if it was

440
00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:21,840
Speaker 4: still there when you was there, but that's just how

441
00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:22,159
Speaker 4: it was.

442
00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:22,760
Speaker 1: Shit.

443
00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:24,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, they let you know. Man. Oh man, I had

444
00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:28,440
Speaker 4: a girl, Becky tell me. She said, norm you're really nice.

445
00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:32,840
Speaker 4: But my my mom says that black people are monkeys.

446
00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:36,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I mean they That's that's one thing about

447
00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:38,840
Speaker 5: you know. That's why I like it here, you know

448
00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:42,200
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, because you got you got, you got everybody, man,

449
00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:46,040
Speaker 5: all this melting pot here California. But that's why people

450
00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,760
Speaker 5: start migrating West a long time ago, anywhere.

451
00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:49,120
Speaker 2: You know.

452
00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:50,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can make it.

453
00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:50,840
Speaker 6: Man.

454
00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:55,359
Speaker 4: The thing is Cleveland, man, Unfortunately, Man is a place

455
00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:58,439
Speaker 4: that's marrowed by extreme poverty. And the conditions don't make

456
00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:00,920
Speaker 4: it no better. You know, you're fighting the bad ass weather, right,

457
00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,920
Speaker 4: and then you got to just good old fashioned just haterism. Man,

458
00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:06,760
Speaker 4: it's hard to wear. If you're a person that don't

459
00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:08,960
Speaker 4: attain a certain thing in your life, you gonna have

460
00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,040
Speaker 4: people mad at you for no reason. Man, it felt

461
00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:13,119
Speaker 4: like they should have been you, Like, like seriously, it's

462
00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:14,240
Speaker 4: the weirdest thing ever, bro.

463
00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:16,960
Speaker 5: I mean, don't get me wrong. I got love for

464
00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,840
Speaker 5: my city, like I love Cleveland to death.

465
00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:25,600
Speaker 2: Look heart, that shit rough. We ain't gonna front.

466
00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:30,640
Speaker 1: I've done these shows in Cleveland, yes, indeed, yeah, Cleveland.

467
00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,320
Speaker 4: But Cleveland put something inside of you, though. Dog, if

468
00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:36,199
Speaker 4: you if you a hustler, Cleveland like give a like

469
00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,760
Speaker 4: you just. I don't know no niggas, the slackers from Cleveland,

470
00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,360
Speaker 4: anybody I know from Cleveland, they trying to get it, man,

471
00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:46,280
Speaker 4: because they understand what poverty is. It's like every day, dog,

472
00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:49,560
Speaker 4: I don't. I've never allowed myself to get comfortable, no

473
00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:51,800
Speaker 4: matter how much money I got in the bank or whatever,

474
00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:54,960
Speaker 4: because I know, with just a few twists and turns, man,

475
00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,159
Speaker 4: you could be on your ass somewhere. Man, you be

476
00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,240
Speaker 4: right back in that motherfucker dog looking at the niggas

477
00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:00,480
Speaker 4: you went to elementary school with.

478
00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:04,480
Speaker 6: I think that's any niggas mentality or any person period,

479
00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:09,359
Speaker 6: male or female. Man, if you just born with that,

480
00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:15,240
Speaker 6: you know, go get mentality. It's hard to stop trying

481
00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:17,480
Speaker 6: to find the next hustle. You know what I'm saying,

482
00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:20,720
Speaker 6: or the next you know job, or the next come

483
00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:25,040
Speaker 6: up or whatever it is. That that's for simple minded

484
00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:28,520
Speaker 6: motherfuckers who are settled with just where I am in

485
00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:29,040
Speaker 6: old way.

486
00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:33,320
Speaker 4: You can't you can't never get content. Man. You know

487
00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:38,200
Speaker 4: one thing I wanted to ask you about. Man, at

488
00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:41,920
Speaker 4: the time you came out here with Ruthless, Man, your

489
00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:45,880
Speaker 4: easy was really up close and personal with y'all. Did

490
00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:49,200
Speaker 4: he ever take you to the house in Norwalk? Man?

491
00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:50,240
Speaker 4: That house is legendary.

492
00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,320
Speaker 5: Bro, Hey, man, that house is Nordwalk's. That's where we

493
00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,720
Speaker 5: used to go, like he would have other artists come

494
00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,440
Speaker 5: out of town. We was big drinkers, like you know

495
00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:02,280
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, And he was like, y'all niggas can't

496
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,000
Speaker 5: drink more than these niggas. We'll tear that nigga house up.

497
00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:09,359
Speaker 5: We being that montherfucker drunk. This nigga got eight k's everywhere.

498
00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:10,400
Speaker 2: Just you know what I mean.

499
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, but Northwalk that's where we used to go get

500
00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:15,120
Speaker 5: to do what we wanted to do.

501
00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:17,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, Ralph the Free where was real little key Man

502
00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:21,320
Speaker 4: shout up at the homies skipping twine, big twine, big twine. Yeah,

503
00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:23,479
Speaker 4: they had me over there, man, one time when I

504
00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,639
Speaker 4: never saw I never knew that part of time. You know,

505
00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:31,879
Speaker 4: being a Northwalk you don't think, man, all kind of

506
00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:32,920
Speaker 4: bras over there. Man.

507
00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:34,560
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.

508
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:36,480
Speaker 5: We used to go over there, man, and just like

509
00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:40,320
Speaker 5: he'll be showing us, that's when I over there. That's

510
00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,720
Speaker 5: how we found out he was a prankster too, you

511
00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,680
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. So he would show us video

512
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:49,040
Speaker 5: tapes of him pranking CPO, and you know what I mean,

513
00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:51,240
Speaker 5: We spent a lot of nights in Norwalk, man.

514
00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:52,119
Speaker 2: That shit was cool.

515
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:59,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, you know what I still think man to

516
00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,399
Speaker 4: this day. Man, Not to try to hash up no

517
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:06,240
Speaker 4: controversy or nothing. I don't think he easy died of age.

518
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 4: I just don't think he did. I don't believe he did.

519
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,879
Speaker 4: I've had family members that suffer from that disease, you know,

520
00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 4: and forces not a lot of them, but I've seen

521
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,080
Speaker 4: people go through that, man, And you just don't go

522
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,240
Speaker 4: to being diagnoseds for full blown age and they had HIV.

523
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:23,400
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. It was too much about that, man.

524
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,240
Speaker 5: I know one thing in America, we can't put nothing

525
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,600
Speaker 5: past nobody, you know what I'm saying, Like definitely, because

526
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 5: if they want you up out of there, like I

527
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 5: still think, you know, tupacin Biggie situation, when as far

528
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 5: as it did, because that that boy was so politically

529
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,439
Speaker 5: in his mind where he was going, they probably got

530
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:46,159
Speaker 5: rid of them niggas, you know what I mean.

531
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,240
Speaker 2: They probably know they know how to get rid of you.

532
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

533
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:53,359
Speaker 5: They killed off a whole generation of smart men, from

534
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:54,879
Speaker 5: Malcolm to Martin.

535
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:56,120
Speaker 4: You know what I mean.

536
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,640
Speaker 2: You can't put nothing past you.

537
00:23:58,640 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 1: You got to watch yourself.

538
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,159
Speaker 4: And when you start talking about the Malcolm in the

539
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 4: marks man, it ain't nothing for them to touch a

540
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:04,640
Speaker 4: rapper dog.

541
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 2: It ain't.

542
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 5: I mean, they shut the panthers down, you know what

543
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:12,440
Speaker 5: I'm saying, Like infiltrated us, put crack in our neighborhoods,

544
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,400
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, got our parents all fucked up.

545
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 5: They ain't God hip hop came along, because we would

546
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 5: all been fucked up.

547
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, for sure. Man, it'd have been the real

548
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 4: bad times.

549
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 2: Man.

550
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 6: Can you imagine with no hip hop, well, a lot

551
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 6: of niggas would be right now.

552
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 5: Man, Man, we would I know, I wouldn't be here, man,

553
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:31,359
Speaker 5: It'd be a.

554
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,119
Speaker 4: Whole bunch of people in penitentiary. Dog, Yeah, a whole

555
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:35,680
Speaker 4: bunch of cats in the graveyard.

556
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 6: He's a more dead, lot of more dead niggas, a

557
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 6: lot of more niggas in the pen you know, because

558
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:45,639
Speaker 6: it gave even though like I said, it's still connected

559
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 6: niggas with the streets, it gave a lot of niggas

560
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:53,439
Speaker 6: an opportunity to change their lives as far as uh

561
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:57,879
Speaker 6: poverty and the kids and you know, being able to

562
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 6: be around your children. You know, we we grew up

563
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:04,160
Speaker 6: a lot of single fathers and shit like that, and

564
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 6: like you said, a lot of dope was introduced and

565
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 6: all that shit. So we learned a hard way our generation.

566
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 6: You know, not that our parents then, you know, you

567
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,880
Speaker 6: got slavery and all that shit that our great grandparents

568
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 6: and all that had to do. But going through the

569
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,160
Speaker 6: gang shit, niggas popping at you and trying to sell

570
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 6: dope and taking penitentiary chances. We had some fucked up

571
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 6: shit to go through too that we had to try

572
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 6: to make it out of.

573
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,879
Speaker 1: You feel me. So hip hop did that for a

574
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 1: lot of niggas.

575
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,439
Speaker 4: Man, Oh man, I'm gonna tell you something, man, Professional

576
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:39,440
Speaker 4: athletics and music have been the thing for the black community.

577
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:39,640
Speaker 6: Man.

578
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 4: I just want to see a time, man, at where

579
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,360
Speaker 4: we start expanding beyond that. Man, Because like I tell everybody,

580
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,359
Speaker 4: when people talk to me about want to do a podcast,

581
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 4: I said, why don't you want to become a producer? Like,

582
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:50,639
Speaker 4: why don't you want to become a person that want

583
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 4: to learn how to work the cameras, how to edit,

584
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 4: through all the things. It's too many people doing podcasts.

585
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 4: The odds of you breaking into that industry, it's almost

586
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 4: like the new record deal Dog, Definitely, the odds odds

587
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 4: are very slim. As you ran the label, Dog. It's hard.

588
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,119
Speaker 4: It's hard just just to come up in something, man

589
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:10,879
Speaker 4: and just make millions of dollars. And I think a

590
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 4: lot of times, man, when you in places like Cleveland,

591
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 4: Compton and wats because they all the same places, Dog,

592
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 4: just different climates. I think it's hard for a kid

593
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 4: to see that, because a kid to see his mom

594
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,160
Speaker 4: and daddy going to work every day and they still

595
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 4: don't got nothing. That's not attractive. But you're looking at

596
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 4: the dope man outside and he got the deep dish

597
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 4: datings on his ship. Man, he got a pocket full

598
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,919
Speaker 4: of money. Man, he just looked he looked fresh.

599
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 2: Dog. Oh yeah, you're twelve years old. We used to

600
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,680
Speaker 2: play that's my car, that's my car. Real, that's my car,

601
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 2: that's my car.

602
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 1: That should influenced that.

603
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 6: I mean it influenced a lot of us who felt

604
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:49,160
Speaker 6: like we wanted a better situation from what we was in.

605
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:50,159
Speaker 4: You feel me.

606
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:57,359
Speaker 6: I mean my pops worked, you feel me. He worked

607
00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 6: at General Motors, went to work nine to five or whatever.

608
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 6: Moms did the same thing. Shit, we we wasn't living

609
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 6: in no you know, we didn't have no Mercedes bends

610
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 6: in the driveway. We had an average car. We didn't

611
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:18,160
Speaker 6: live in motherfucking Beverly Hills or or fucking Baldwin Hills,

612
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,360
Speaker 6: or even fucking Lakewood for that matter. You get me.

613
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:25,160
Speaker 6: We lived in fucking Compton. Not that Compton was bad,

614
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 6: because I loved it, but that's what, you know, we

615
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,679
Speaker 6: was faced with. You know what I'm saying. When you

616
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 6: turn around and you look at the nigga down the street, Goddamn,

617
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 6: this nig got a brand new motherfucking truck home goddamn Dayton's.

618
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 6: And wait a minute, the nigga got a lo lo too.

619
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 6: And then wait a minute, the nigga got this too,

620
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 6: and that too.

621
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 2: Last summer he was on the bus man.

622
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 4: The niggas got motherfucker.

623
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 6: You you look at that and be like, well, shit,

624
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,200
Speaker 6: you're looking at your parents and you know it. That's

625
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,640
Speaker 6: if if you had that that motherfucker or your hard

626
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 6: work mentality, you know, you get what you paid you.

627
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 1: You know that type of shit.

628
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 6: Tell you somewhere, you looked at the nigga down the

629
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:11,160
Speaker 6: street who had all this shit, and he was out

630
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 6: there on the corner pitching.

631
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 1: That was your influence.

632
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:18,199
Speaker 6: My influence wasn't to go punch no motherfucking clock like

633
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,400
Speaker 6: I saw moms and pop slavery. They was coming home

634
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 6: with backs hurting and knees hurt.

635
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you right now, dog, I tell my

636
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:29,360
Speaker 4: kids and people don't misjudge what I'm about to say,

637
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 4: because you should take your lazy ass to work to

638
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 4: provide for your family. But do that while you're building

639
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 4: towards a dream. I told all my kids, y'all don't

640
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 4: need to think of getting no jobs. Don't go to school,

641
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 4: used to get no job because a job it motherfucker

642
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 4: let you go at any time. That's almost like a

643
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 4: sucker bed. Almost you work somewhere for all your life. Man.

644
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 4: And then by the time they tell you can retire

645
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 4: now to retirement age don't went up two years every

646
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 4: time every year since I came out of high school.

647
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 4: You can't retire to you damn in sixty seven to

648
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 4: seventy now, so you think about it, you can from

649
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 4: work some motherfucking place for all your life. Dog at seventy,

650
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 4: you come on for a few years and you die. Yeah,

651
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 4: while making another motherfucker rich. Now he don't provide it

652
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 4: for you know, you got a pay check out of

653
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 4: that dog. But I just always aspired for more. Man,

654
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 4: I can tell people to find you are telling what

655
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 4: you're good at. It ain't necessarily gotta beat it, you know, rapper,

656
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 4: no podcast, no actor or nothing like that. But you

657
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 4: could beat the nigga that that clean cars, the detailed

658
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 4: cars real good on your own detailed shop. You can't

659
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 4: never fire yourself, my nigga.

660
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, having that, having that mentality is it's hard for

661
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 6: a young nigga or a young kid who's eleven or

662
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 6: twelve coming up in poverty in the struggle. When I'm

663
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 6: watching the niggas on the block every day and then

664
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 6: I'm seeing police shit, and I'm seeing niggas get smoked

665
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 6: who from my block? It changes your mentality, you know

666
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 6: what I'm saying. You want to strive for, you know,

667
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 6: something better. But like I tell niggas, you know, as

668
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 6: a kid, you all you have those dreams you give me.

669
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 6: When I was a kid, I didn't think I was

670
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 6: gonna be no rapper, actor, podcast, motherfucker you give me.

671
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 6: I thought i was gonna be like any other typical kid.

672
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 6: I'm be a policeman, i'ma be a fireman, I'm be a.

673
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 1: Doctor, lawyer, whatever.

674
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 6: And then the more you see poverty kick in, and

675
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 6: you like, well, shit, I ain't got no new motherfucking

676
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 6: nikes onn and moms ain't buying me this. And then

677
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 6: especially if your parents split and now you got single

678
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 6: moms at home, and now really shit is like low

679
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 6: income and shit your aspects of like nigga, I ain't

680
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:49,959
Speaker 6: finna be no motherfucking doctor or lawyer. Shit, I'm barely

681
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 6: finna make it out. The nigga niggas down the street

682
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 6: shooting every night. Who says I'm finna make it out here?

683
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 6: And then next thing you know, you claiming the hood.

684
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 6: And then you running in with the police every day, Nigga.

685
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 6: I'm like, nigga, I'm gonna be in prison some fucking well.

686
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I'm gonna tell you who the influences are now.

687
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 4: When we was kids, it used to be the dude

688
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 4: down the block, you know that hustles over with. Now

689
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 4: that's gone, right, I'm gonna tell you what it is now.

690
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 4: The rappers that they see on TV, the images that

691
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 4: these cats portray, And it's real destructive because a lot

692
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 4: of these rappers don't have the money that they claim,

693
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 4: especially not the new ones. Just come in the game.

694
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 4: You've living off of advance, bro, and that jury is

695
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 4: more than likely rented or you know what I'm saying,

696
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 4: it's all props, dog. But we project these images man

697
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 4: to the community. Right. It's almost like dangling the steak

698
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 4: in front of pit bulls.

699
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 2: Right.

700
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 4: So they kids want that now, so they gonna do whatever.

701
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 4: And the Internet has made it to where any nigga

702
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 4: can become famous or at least get five minutes of fame.

703
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 4: Fo a minute you can get attention, right, So you

704
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 4: got some people, man that's willing to do whatever they

705
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 4: have to do to get attention. If they gotta go

706
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 4: in and tell a lie about you or him or

707
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 4: me or whoever. I like it at all, do it.

708
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 6: I look at all these people now on the internet.

709
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 6: I was just saying this ship myself the other day.

710
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 6: Motherfucker will do anything to just be somebody. Nowadays, you

711
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 6: get me. You see everybody going, uh, what do they

712
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 6: call themselves now? Content creat What the fuck is that?

713
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 6: And then half the motherfuckers who call themselves content creators

714
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 6: ain't doing nothing but walking around showing themselves. And I'll

715
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 6: be like, mofucker will do anything today.

716
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 4: Tell the lies about somebody else telling lies.

717
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 6: And I'm gonna eat some shit, I'm gonna wear some shit.

718
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 6: I'm gonna get on here like there's so many people

719
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 6: that just get on the internet just act foods and

720
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 6: ship for attention. You get me like, man, I'm I'm

721
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 6: I'm a fucking I'm i'ma I'm gonna feel me and

722
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 6: my husband in the bathroom getting dressed and pulling pranks

723
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 6: on each other.

724
00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 4: I saw I saw bro not to cut you, but

725
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 4: I saw broad Man. They said, this chick make a

726
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 4: million dollars a month. Let niggas watch her sleep.

727
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 1: It's just like everybody wants to be like.

728
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 4: I ain't man at that dog. Everybody wants to.

729
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 6: Be famous today, man, or be somebody like you you

730
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 6: don't have. You don't hear too many motherfuckers like oh,

731
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:24,479
Speaker 6: I want to become a teacher or an educator, or

732
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 6: I want to become a motherfucking lawyer, or I want

733
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 6: to be Everybody wants to be a YouTube content creating

734
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 6: sensation nowadays.

735
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 1: Get me.

736
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 5: I think I think, man, I think it's just it's

737
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 5: everything changed, like because I think back when I was

738
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 5: a kid aspiring to be a rapper, you know what

739
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 5: I mean. Like today it seemed like the main primary

740
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 5: reason why niggas want to rap it is to be famous.

741
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 5: It's to be seen, even more than get the money

742
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 5: to move to mama out the house, to you know,

743
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,239
Speaker 5: to take care of the family. It's like niggas just

744
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 5: need to be seen more. Like when I was growing up,

745
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,320
Speaker 5: it was like, Okay, I want to be the best rapper.

746
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 5: You want to have skills, you want to be able

747
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 5: to tell stories, you know what I'm saying. Like you

748
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 5: wanted like being a rapper was it was being somebody.

749
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 5: It was like it was like a tool that got

750
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 5: you out of the hood.

751
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 2: Now, like you know, we wanted we wanted.

752
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 5: To rap, to get out, to take care of moms,

753
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 5: to to get out.

754
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 2: The motherfucking hood period.

755
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 5: Now niggas want to rap and go straight back to

756
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:39,800
Speaker 5: the hood.

757
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. It's like or they put

758
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 2: on for the hood.

759
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, Like it ain't it's it's

760
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 5: not a real purpose in being an entertainer no more.

761
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 5: It's like like you said, they just want to be seen.

762
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:52,840
Speaker 1: You know.

763
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 6: Still, as a kid, what did you inspire to be?

764
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 6: Man as a kid, You know what, Brake, I'm sure

765
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 6: it wasn't like I'm gonna be producing hip hop records

766
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 6: or I'm gonna be a podcast.

767
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 1: No, that you inspire to be as a child.

768
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 4: You know what I wanted to be when I was

769
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 4: a little kid, Man, I used to be able to

770
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 4: draw really good. Okay, I wanted to do cartoons when

771
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 4: I was a little kid. I really want to do

772
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 4: I want to do that all the way up into

773
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 4: college until I saw how much, especially the technology wasn't

774
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 4: like it is today. You know, in order for you

775
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 4: to get in the cartoon work, man, you had to

776
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 4: go to four or five different schools, Like when you

777
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 4: get your backs threat, you got to go off here

778
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 4: and learn something. You might have to fly off here

779
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 4: to China or Japan for a year, learn to do this,

780
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 4: depending on what you want to do, you know what

781
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,720
Speaker 4: I mean. But I wanted to really be an artist.

782
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:40,919
Speaker 2: Dog.

783
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 4: I always like lean toward the arts, you know what

784
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 4: I mean. But I never had even though I played football,

785
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 4: I never really had aspirations on being a professional athlete,

786
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 4: so to speak. I just always especially back then, because

787
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 4: believe it or not, football players just getting the way

788
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:57,879
Speaker 4: they're making good money. Back then, when I was coming out,

789
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 4: I think the league minimum one hundred thousand a year.

790
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 4: I knew motherfuckers that was getting jobs that was better

791
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 4: than that. And I always thought about the financial aspect.

792
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:08,959
Speaker 4: My knees was hurting and back hurting all the time.

793
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 4: I was like, man for one hundred dollars, man getting

794
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:12,919
Speaker 4: whacked on FO one hundred thousand.

795
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 6: I got me fucked up. It wasn't ready for the turches,

796
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 6: Oh no, man, And I was really good. I was good.

797
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 2: I wanted to play baseball, man. I wanted to play.

798
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:27,800
Speaker 5: Baseball like nine eight seven eight nine, and I wanted

799
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 5: I wanted to be. I wanted to be Michael Jackson. Okay,

800
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. I wanted to be him.

801
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 2: Then I wanted to be Ll cool J, you know

802
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 2: what I mean.

803
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 5: And then when I started getting like I really start

804
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 5: selling dope and I caught a couple of cases, I

805
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 5: wanted to be a lawyer, know what I'm saying.

806
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 2: So you know, life delped me what it dept me.

807
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 5: But I did aspire to do other things besides music,

808
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 5: you know, sports music. I aspired for that, but I

809
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 5: knew if all that would failed, I probably would have

810
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:02,720
Speaker 5: became an attorney or something.

811
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 6: It's like it's like the youth now, like they and

812
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 6: like you said, I don't be a mo fucking rapper,

813
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 6: niggah artist, fucking baseball player, fucking you know what I'm saying.

814
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: I want to be a rapper.

815
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 6: I think that is why when I had my son,

816
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 6: I pushed for something else he because already knew that

817
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:30,879
Speaker 6: rap bug on hit him, especially with the artists that

818
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 6: they have today and his generation and the youth, and

819
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:38,320
Speaker 6: you know, you got the eighteen nineteen year old motherfuckers

820
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,760
Speaker 6: riding around and the Rods Royces and all this shit

821
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 6: that was gonna influence him if he saw that shit

822
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 6: every day, so automatically, it was like, nah, nigga were

823
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 6: getting outside you nigga from from the age of three

824
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 6: years old until I could stick it in your brain.

825
00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 6: You give me, it's gonna be something else besides. And

826
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 6: he used to detour a little bit. Hey Dad, you

827
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 6: think I can? And how do you do this? And

828
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 6: how do you do that? Work the microphone? Because I

829
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 6: used to have my equipment set up. How do you

830
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 6: work the microphone?

831
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 1: Nigga.

832
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 6: I took all that shit down because I didn't want

833
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 6: him to get influenced by this shit that I know

834
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 6: is a fucking headache and it's a roller coaster you get.

835
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,320
Speaker 4: Man, every cat I know, Man, it's in the business.

836
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 4: Man in any park. They discouraged their kids. My son, Man,

837
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 4: he played professional football, right, but it seemed like he

838
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 4: more interested in going into the music industry. And here

839
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 4: I'm like, man, you playing professional football. Lead that stuff alone, man.

840
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 4: And I finally told him, if you can work in

841
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 4: the industry, you can get a real job. So I

842
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 4: hook them up with my boy that was up in

843
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 4: the Universal building. I said, you not doing all this

844
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 4: trying to go develop an artists and find you mess

845
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 4: around and lose every penny you got, man, exactly, you

846
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 4: fucking around because it's hard, man, it's not, no guarantees.

847
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, I pulled my kids into this shit early that,

848
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,760
Speaker 5: but that was me out here thriveing having him so young,

849
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, out here thriving doing having

850
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 5: him everywhere I was. So you know, now my oldest son,

851
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,439
Speaker 5: like my younger sons, they want it. They love his shit,

852
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 5: you know, my oldest son, and he won't it. They

853
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 5: love it too. But he was around it so much

854
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 5: as a kid that he shy away from it sometimes.

855
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 2: And like now, you know, he do his trade.

856
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 5: And you know, different things that he do, educate hisself.

857
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 2: Like you know what I'm saying.

858
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:33,360
Speaker 5: So I think when you put him in they're too young,

859
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 5: they gonna kind of bag up from it.

860
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:36,760
Speaker 2: Anyway.

861
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 6: It it'll burn you out, especially with the transition of

862
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 6: how shit going today. That's why I say, as a kid,

863
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 6: you gotta have some you know, some other solid inspirations,

864
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, to want to become you

865
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying. And no disrespect to the talent

866
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 6: and people who you know, chasing that dream. I just

867
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 6: feel like with the way it is right now, like

868
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:08,879
Speaker 6: I said, kids should be inspired to become something other

869
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 6: than the next hip hop star or the next whatever.

870
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, get you some kind of

871
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 6: education to where when this shit starts nagging you, you

872
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 6: got something else to fall back on besides trying to

873
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 6: be the next Oh well, shit, I gotta be a

874
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 6: content creator, or I gotta I gotta start a only

875
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:31,800
Speaker 6: fans or I gotta you know, well.

876
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,319
Speaker 4: From what I see today, bro, my only problem is

877
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 4: that if now, if a kid got talent, Man, if

878
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 4: a kid is talented, and a lot of times the

879
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 4: apple do fall for far, don't fall far from the tree.

880
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:44,439
Speaker 4: You know. Sometimes if a niggas he don't been seeing

881
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 4: his daddy raps since he's been in the crib, he

882
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 4: go more than likely possess some kind of lyrical tenacity,

883
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 4: you feel what I'm saying. But at the same time.

884
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 1: Is he gonna have the Southern success?

885
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 4: Is he gonna have the same success and now today

886
00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 4: to become a rapper dog? It's about every thing that's

887
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 4: outside of music that's go Actually get the motherfucker to

888
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 4: invest some money into you. So now you got the

889
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 4: girls that's out there doing whatever. They just doing whatever.

890
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 4: They trying to outdo each other. They saying the craziest

891
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 4: stuff ever on records now and I don't I know,

892
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 4: we've been on that lately, so I don't want to

893
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 4: go back on that tarbet, But it just seemed like

894
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:20,840
Speaker 4: to me that they almost It's like these little niggas

895
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 4: aspire to almost go to prison, my nigga. It's like

896
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 4: they get on like you see a cat like young

897
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,839
Speaker 4: thug that's making all the money he was making. Now

898
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 4: he in this situation man, where this man might be

899
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 4: in jail for the rest of his life. It's like, okay,

900
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 4: so you struggled to get here only to go back

901
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 4: to here to become worse, my nigga.

902
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 2: So I believe, I believe that.

903
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:43,720
Speaker 5: I believe that the the artists, you know what I'm saying,

904
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 5: like these days, the artist is uh, it's changed. Tanning

905
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 5: alone ain't just gonna get it. You can be the

906
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 5: dopest nigga, you know what I mean. It's probably ten.

907
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:58,839
Speaker 5: It was probably ten Jordan's on the playground. But why

908
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 5: that only one make it? Because he knew he understood

909
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 5: his books he knew with his schooling. You know what

910
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 5: I'm so, Now, I feel like you have to have

911
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 5: a business, some type of business degree if you're gonna

912
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 5: be a rapper. So you know what I'm saying. You

913
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 5: need to take accounting. You know what I'm saying, Like

914
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:21,280
Speaker 5: all these a rapper now, it ain't just us putting

915
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 5: words on paper. You gotta run a whole full business.

916
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 5: So you just coming to the mic because you could

917
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:31,359
Speaker 5: spit that don't mean nothing. Everybody rap? So but can

918
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 5: you manage your career? You know what I'm saying, Like

919
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 5: I manage myself. I've been managing myself, but I've been

920
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 5: reading my own contracts. You gotta understand the wearing tools,

921
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 5: the FOI and withs and the hearing tools in your contracts.

922
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 2: And you gotta.

923
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:51,320
Speaker 5: Be able to dissect your contract. Okay, you like your clothes?

924
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 2: Your brand? Now?

925
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 5: Now, a rapper is a brand, you know what I'm saying.

926
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 5: So how do you manage that brand? If you can't,

927
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 5: If you don't under standing different aspects of your shows,

928
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 5: of your lawyers, if you don't know how to deal

929
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:09,840
Speaker 5: with every aspect of your business, then you're not gonna

930
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 5: make it in this you might get a one hit song,

931
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 5: but you ain't gonna last.

932
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 4: And even if you do have a team some kind

933
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 4: of success, you gona be everything gonna be gone by

934
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 4: the time you done. You ain't gonna have no money.

935
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 2: Because if you don't have a team. You know what

936
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 2: I'm saying, if you.

937
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 5: Take age, I don't know, if you don't know it,

938
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 5: that team will rob the shit out you.

939
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:32,320
Speaker 4: Oh for sure. This man right here is the primary

940
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 4: example of that.

941
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been robbed.

942
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 5: I've been shook down to my socks, you know what

943
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 5: I'm saying. Like, so I'm I'm really speaking from experience, you.

944
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 2: Know what I mean, Like had it all came in.

945
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 5: First checked eighty thousand dollars, blew that, you know what

946
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 5: I mean? When did shit that wasn't that was easy

947
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 5: to blow? You know what I'm saying. But we all

948
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 5: did that because we had you know. But over time

949
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 5: I learned this. But now I feel like if an artist,

950
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 5: like when I'm looking at artists, like I know, a

951
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 5: couple of dope ass niggas get on the mic and

952
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 5: kill it. Dumb as rocks though, you know what I'm saying, Like, nigga,

953
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 5: you go, you going straight to jail. I'm not feeling

954
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:15,319
Speaker 5: you a liability, right, you know what I'm saying. So like,

955
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 5: that's how if somebody gonna put some money behind you,

956
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 5: they need to see other than you just raping. They

957
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 5: need to know that, you know, you're wise enough to

958
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 5: control whatever that investment is.

959
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 2: You know.

960
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 4: So let me ask you this bro coming from the

961
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 4: place we come from. Man, y'all established more thug records, man,

962
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 4: and y'all put a lot of people from the city on.

963
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 4: You know how many people was mad at you that

964
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 4: you didn't put them on because you can't. You can't

965
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 4: put the whole neighborhood on.

966
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,919
Speaker 5: I mean, niggas was mad period, you know what I'm saying.

967
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 5: Even the ones put on put a couple the worst

968
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 5: thousands of dollars in the pockets, you know, and then

969
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 5: they mismanaged their money and do they you know, spent

970
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 5: their ship how they spent it. But now and now

971
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 5: you know, you try, you try to do something helpful,

972
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 5: and here it is, it's a hinderance to you because

973
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:18,439
Speaker 5: you don't put an uneducated person on that went blew.

974
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:20,800
Speaker 2: They shit and now it's your fault.

975
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 4: And and they don't understand they have to pay that

976
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 4: money back you initially.

977
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:26,320
Speaker 1: Gave them, right, Yeah, that exactly.

978
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,479
Speaker 4: And a lot of a lot of them records y'all

979
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 4: was putting out. Man was going gold and platinum because

980
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 4: they it feature gold and platinum. People prominently on them

981
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 4: albums like y'all really got behind them, Martis, y'all used

982
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 4: to throw them out there. Y'all was on every record

983
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:39,919
Speaker 4: down there.

984
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean one way bus tickets from Cleveland, Ohio

985
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 5: out here, living homeless out here, you know what I mean?

986
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 5: That was the sacrifice, you know what I mean? Like

987
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:52,879
Speaker 5: niggas didn't understand that we made that sacrifice for them, right,

988
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, three day bus ride, not

989
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:57,959
Speaker 5: knowing what you're gonna eat or who you gonna stay

990
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 5: or what you know what I'm saying, Or that was

991
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:03,439
Speaker 5: they didn't have to do that. I opened the door

992
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 5: and let them in, you know what I'm saying. Like

993
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 5: a couple of my artists still thriving off what they

994
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 5: got from me. A couple of my artists still blaming

995
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 5: me for what they didn't do right twenty years ago,

996
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:19,399
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. But you gotta look at

997
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 5: the man in the mirror. I mismanaged my money. I

998
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,319
Speaker 5: ain't blame nobody. I just got back on my shit

999
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 5: and became quiet and went and studied, you know what

1000
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 5: I mean, Because I ain't want to be the nigga

1001
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 5: on but what happened to you dog used to be

1002
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 5: the man. I ain't want to be that nigga, you

1003
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. So I had to learn from myself.

1004
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 5: So these artists. You put these artists on a lot

1005
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 5: of times, it don't be worth it because if you're

1006
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 5: not a well rounded individual, you're not gonna sustain this shit.

1007
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 5: And sometimes it ain't fun to put on. People gonna

1008
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 5: blame you, definitely.

1009
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 6: I was just saying that everybody's not probably gonna be

1010
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 6: as successful as you know.

1011
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 1: I mean not to mean.

1012
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 6: That we're not gonna work and try and do what

1013
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 6: we gotta do, but averages, you might not sell ten

1014
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 6: million albums, you might not sell one million albums. Your

1015
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 6: ship might come out, might do sixty thousand copies. People

1016
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 6: work mysteriously like that when they come to music. You

1017
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:30,400
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying. I could like this motherfucker, not

1018
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 6: like that motherfucker. No disrespect, you get me, But I

1019
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 6: don't like that shit as much as I like this,

1020
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:42,919
Speaker 6: So that's just that's just people's flavor, man, And it's

1021
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 6: unfortunate that you know, you might consider a motherfucker the

1022
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:49,280
Speaker 6: friend or the homie that you're trying to put on

1023
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:53,359
Speaker 6: because you believe in their talent. And but I can't

1024
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 6: make a motherfucker by your record.

1025
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 2: Man.

1026
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 1: You get me.

1027
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 6: I can only talk to the radio so much and

1028
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 6: be like, hey, man, play this for me, play this

1029
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 6: for me. But at the end of the day, cost effective.

1030
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. I can't do for you

1031
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 6: what easy and ruthless did for me. You get me

1032
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 6: as I'm a try. You get me. That's my whole intent.

1033
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 6: But let's face it, this this rap game, man is

1034
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:25,320
Speaker 6: That's why I say, Man, I did not want to

1035
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 6: encourage my son to go into this shit. Who says

1036
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:33,400
Speaker 6: you're gonna have a success I did. I'd be loved

1037
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 6: if you was able to shit, if you was able

1038
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 6: to climb up over me, I'd be.

1039
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 1: Very proud, Like, Okay, good great.

1040
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, all the hard work and

1041
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 6: determination paying at good great. But then what happens when

1042
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 6: you put a motherfucker record out and he sell twenty copies.

1043
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:51,839
Speaker 1: Right, you get me.

1044
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 4: Whisky very well happening with this dream and shit, I

1045
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 4: don't understand how that work anyway. But going back to

1046
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 4: your going back to your you know, contract stuff and everything.

1047
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 4: A lot of artists say they first deal was unfair.

1048
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 4: I agree with that in some ways, but then in

1049
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 4: some ways I don't because somebody has invested some money

1050
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:12,919
Speaker 4: and you because they don't usually come back and say

1051
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:15,840
Speaker 4: nothing about the dudes to fail. Most acts, the record

1052
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 4: company sign their failures. I think it's something only maybe

1053
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 4: one out of every five actually work out, you know

1054
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 4: what I mean? They got more failures in the buildings,

1055
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 4: so they kind of got a overtext the one that

1056
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 4: does that do make it now? Usually after you sacrifice

1057
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 4: that first album kind of and you sell some records,

1058
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 4: you start getting a lot more leverage. But now you're

1059
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:40,240
Speaker 4: a bankable artist, right, did y'all you guys? I assume

1060
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 4: y'all contract situation after y'all put out East nineteen ainety

1061
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:44,799
Speaker 4: nine a termal, I'm pretty sure they went back to

1062
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:46,799
Speaker 4: the drawing board with y'all and figured out some other shit.

1063
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 1: Huh.

1064
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:49,359
Speaker 5: We went back to the drawing boards soon as I

1065
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 5: heard platinum, Like I was on that, you know, I

1066
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,359
Speaker 5: mean because our deal wasn't the greatest, but you know

1067
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 5: back then.

1068
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:58,840
Speaker 1: Whose deal was hell nobody.

1069
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 5: He was like, I'm gonna give y'all a better deal

1070
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:05,359
Speaker 5: than the dog pound. He like, they getting eight points.

1071
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 5: I'm like, what the fuck is a point?

1072
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 6: You're covering from where I'm coming from, lazy, Like, what

1073
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:12,720
Speaker 6: the fuck is the point?

1074
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 2: Like?

1075
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 1: How much is that the dollar size?

1076
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 2: I a point?

1077
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 4: Like?

1078
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 5: He was like, I'm gonna give y'all twelve points. So

1079
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 5: I'm like, I'm trying to figure out what this point is.

1080
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 5: So I'm like, okay, twelve percent of a hundred. Yeah,

1081
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 5: that shit wasn't cool. But he put the money up,

1082
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:33,840
Speaker 5: he put the videos up, and I had to explain

1083
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 5: to my niggas, like, man, we need to get in

1084
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 5: the door because I already knew because I had it.

1085
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 5: I had a situation in Cleveland that we had. I

1086
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 5: had got fucked in the contract because the first album

1087
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 5: we did was called Faces to Death. It was a

1088
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 5: Cleveland local project, Dolls rep creation Hermy Henderson slew Foot

1089
00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 5: fuck face bitch.

1090
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 6: As he Yeah, why do we all got what?

1091
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1092
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:11,320
Speaker 5: I was sixteen, you know what I'm saying. So I'm thinking,

1093
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 5: I'm getting a record deal. This nigga signed us to

1094
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 5: a management deal. We give him a whole album. Still,

1095
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 5: I could still sue this dude to this day, but

1096
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:23,360
Speaker 5: it ain't worth it because I don't like the karma

1097
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 5: he got to deal with that. But you know, he

1098
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:32,280
Speaker 5: as a kid, I was already tricked, So I already

1099
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 5: knew when we got to E like, I knew what

1100
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 5: a renegotiation was. So I'm like soon as and then

1101
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 5: when I heard we was platinum, boom. So we went

1102
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:45,239
Speaker 5: from a sixteen a twelve point deal to a sixteen

1103
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:49,319
Speaker 5: point deal, from sixteen to an eighteen, from eighteen to

1104
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 5: a twenty two. By the time we left Ruthless, we

1105
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:54,760
Speaker 5: was fifty to fifty with them, you know what I'm saying.

1106
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:59,319
Speaker 5: So it worked out for me. Busy didn't see it

1107
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 5: the same way I saw it, you know what I mean.

1108
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 5: The rest of us saw it like, Okay, we establishing

1109
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 5: some now, we built some now, you know, And we

1110
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 5: was cut from that easy eat cloth. So it was

1111
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 5: like the doors that was open for us was unlimited,

1112
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:19,840
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. So that was the reason

1113
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 5: why we went in and we was we signed the

1114
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 5: first contract because you got to get in the door.

1115
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 2: Man.

1116
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 5: Once you get past the gate, the gatekeepers, then you

1117
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 5: can probably, you know, you can construct your world the

1118
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 5: way fit now.

1119
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 4: Y'all having so many people in the group, man, how

1120
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 4: hard was that negotiating, man, because you pretty much got

1121
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 4: to have everybody in the Greens for it to be

1122
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 4: popping right right.

1123
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 5: So, you know, we used to have this thing called

1124
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:50,720
Speaker 5: majority rule. It's five of us, you know what I'm saying,

1125
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 5: So if three niggas was down, then the.

1126
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:54,879
Speaker 2: Other two had the roll.

1127
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 5: We lost that along the way, you know what I'm saying,

1128
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:01,279
Speaker 5: because once every Aldy got money, it was like, now

1129
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 5: I'm gonna do what I want to do, you know

1130
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 5: what I mean. But in the beginning, our little democracy

1131
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:12,840
Speaker 5: was we're gonna vote if it's three to two, you know, George,

1132
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 5: the majority rule.

1133
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 2: And that's how we was able.

1134
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:19,319
Speaker 5: To keep going without standing there and just you know,

1135
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 5: and fighting, fighting, fighting and being stagnant. We didn't have

1136
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 5: to become stagnant because we had an uneven number in

1137
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 5: our group, you know what I mean, So it always

1138
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:30,240
Speaker 5: kept the ball rolling.

1139
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 4: That work. Man, It had been cool if y'all could

1140
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 4: have saw that, man, because I'm not gonna lie and

1141
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:39,799
Speaker 4: I ain't saying this is no Cleveland stand But when

1142
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:43,319
Speaker 4: I first saw y'all, man, I listened to a lot

1143
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 4: of hip hop because I got no hip hop inside

1144
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 4: it out, you know, and I'm a fan first, you

1145
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:51,360
Speaker 4: know what I mean. I really felt like y'all was

1146
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 4: so unique, man, and wasn't nobody like y'all. I really

1147
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 4: say it, man, these dudes go fuck around and be

1148
00:53:56,520 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 4: like the fucking Beatles, a hip hop dog. I really

1149
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 4: I saw that, man, and I think, Man, somewhere along

1150
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 4: the way, man, like you said, the inconsistency started kind

1151
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 4: of coming in, you know, like I would see some

1152
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:12,320
Speaker 4: crazy records that just didn't make sense, you know what

1153
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 4: I mean, Like, Okay, this dude over here doing these

1154
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 4: records with this dude. I like, man, the motherfuckers is

1155
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 4: too big for that.

1156
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:18,479
Speaker 1: Man.

1157
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 4: Where do you think that? Like, why is it so

1158
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:23,720
Speaker 4: hard to keep that cohesiveness?

1159
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 5: I mean, you know what I mean, because man, when

1160
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:30,720
Speaker 5: money come into play, man niggas.

1161
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:34,239
Speaker 2: Just always that man, you know, because.

1162
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 5: In the beginning, you know what I mean, it was

1163
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 5: like our shit was more control. Like I worked at KFC,

1164
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 5: I sold dope. I went to school, I set up

1165
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:49,320
Speaker 5: our talent shows. I did a lot of that stuff,

1166
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:49,919
Speaker 5: you know what I mean.

1167
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 2: Like, so.

1168
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 5: We didn't have a lot of money, but a lot

1169
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:56,840
Speaker 5: of that money came from me.

1170
00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:57,839
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

1171
00:54:57,880 --> 00:54:59,720
Speaker 5: Like I'm like, all right, so we gotta get outfits

1172
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 5: boom we do. You know a lot of my contribution

1173
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:06,800
Speaker 5: was to keep the group going. But shit, Like I said,

1174
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:11,719
Speaker 5: our first check a piece was eighty thousand sh That

1175
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 5: Nigga Busy was with us in Cleveland for a couple

1176
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 5: of years.

1177
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 2: He hated Columbus. You know what I mean.

1178
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 5: That nigga got that check, Nigga, that nigga was out,

1179
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 5: That Nigga went straight to Columbus.

1180
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 2: We like, where's this?

1181
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. But that's what money do.

1182
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:31,280
Speaker 5: It gives you power to do. You don't have to listen.

1183
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 5: We don't have to sit down and mastermind together, you

1184
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:37,880
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. Like I got my own ideas,

1185
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 5: and then you got other people. They got ideas that

1186
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 5: didn't have nothing to do with the original idea, and

1187
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:46,319
Speaker 5: now you over here with two people in your ear.

1188
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 5: I got three in mind. And that's when the Wedges

1189
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 5: start coming in, you know what I mean. But us

1190
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:55,400
Speaker 5: being family, you know what I mean, we kind of

1191
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 5: leaned on each other. That's why we're still here today.

1192
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 5: We was more of family orientated, you know what I mean.

1193
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:07,839
Speaker 5: So when the wedges came down, one of us always knew, like, oh,

1194
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 5: we got to pull it back together. So if it

1195
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 5: wasn't me, it was it was flesh, you know what

1196
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 5: I'm saying. If it wasn't flesh, it was big wish,

1197
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 5: like the fuck that we family, you know what I'm saying.

1198
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 5: So our family aspect, our parents knowing each other and

1199
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 5: growing up in the Glenville area together and knowing each

1200
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:30,959
Speaker 5: other is what helped us stand the test of time.

1201
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 4: That's a good thing. Is I still see y'all touring, man,

1202
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 4: And like that's one thing man that always tell artists

1203
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 4: y'all might not have had the best contract that first

1204
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 4: album though, but look at what y'all doing.

1205
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:43,440
Speaker 2: Man.

1206
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:45,279
Speaker 4: It's thirty years later.

1207
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 2: Man, we're free agents too, you know what I'm saying.

1208
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 5: So when we put out some now, it's like all

1209
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:52,960
Speaker 5: that all that come home exactly.

1210
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:55,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, y'all about to get the masters back to him.

1211
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:59,239
Speaker 5: Masters come back year thirty man, and you know it's

1212
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:01,680
Speaker 5: gonna be a beautiful So we got, you know, the

1213
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 5: masters starting to revert back.

1214
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 1: They're crazy. Some ship that we wrote.

1215
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 2: And we did thirty years.

1216
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:13,719
Speaker 6: Take us thirty years to own our own ship, and

1217
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:14,360
Speaker 6: we made the.

1218
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:14,839
Speaker 1: Ship I got.

1219
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 4: Damn.

1220
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 6: I sat up all night getting high, drinking forty ounces,

1221
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 6: trying to come up with motherfucking shit to write about.

1222
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 6: And a nigga just took my ship, right like, nigga,

1223
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 6: that's that's mine.

1224
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 2: And they still don't want to give it back.

1225
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, you have to go to court for that.

1226
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 2: You gotta you gotta go get a.

1227
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 6: Lawyer and go get it because they'll just keep selling

1228
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 6: it and keep flipping it and going, yeah it's thirty

1229
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 6: years later, oh what, and they'll keep collecting the money.

1230
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:42,480
Speaker 2: No.

1231
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 4: After I know, after Easy died, man, was it a

1232
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 4: little hard man, Because see, it's one thing when you're

1233
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 4: dealing with a cat that you like and stuff may

1234
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 4: not be all the way right, but that didn't give

1235
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 4: you opportunity exactly, and then somebody else come in and

1236
00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 4: take over. Was it a lot of little dissension as

1237
00:57:57,400 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 4: far as dealing with Tamika.

1238
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:02,919
Speaker 2: I mean, it was like, you know, Uh, I said

1239
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 2: like this.

1240
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:06,280
Speaker 5: So when we was working with Easy Eve when he

1241
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 5: was alive, he just put us in the studio and said, y'all, niggas,

1242
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 5: give me give me an album. He didn't over like,

1243
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 5: look over our shoulder, I want to I want another

1244
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 5: Cross Rolls. You know, all that shit hadn't happened yet.

1245
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:22,800
Speaker 5: So he let us do whatever we want. He let

1246
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 5: us be us, and we came with our ship. By

1247
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 5: the time Tamika and Uh and Ryan Swains where y'all

1248
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 5: all the other players came into play. When that happened,

1249
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 5: it was like they was looking for something, you know

1250
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 5: what I'm saying. It's like Tamika wanted to tell us

1251
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 5: how to do our record or which record to do,

1252
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. Like, and we didn't have that.

1253
00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:53,560
Speaker 5: So we had one hundred freedom with he was alive,

1254
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 5: and then when he wasn't, we had people trying to

1255
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:57,960
Speaker 5: tell us how to do our shit. Well, we need

1256
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 5: another Crossrods or some of the time. So we okay,

1257
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 5: we did cross Roads.

1258
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:02,640
Speaker 2: Boom.

1259
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 5: Now we're gonna give y'all change the world. And now

1260
00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 5: we're gonna give y'all if I could teach, so you know,

1261
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 5: if you look at our songs. It's like seven eight

1262
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 5: them kind of songs of each type kind of song.

1263
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:18,919
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, Because motherfuckers was looking for

1264
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 5: the next instead of just letting us, just.

1265
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:25,160
Speaker 6: Just letting us create and come up with our own.

1266
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:28,520
Speaker 6: Now y'all telling us all, y'all gotta do another Crossroads,

1267
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:30,520
Speaker 6: You gotta give us another hit single.

1268
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 5: Didn't know cross Roads was gonna be a hit. So

1269
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:35,960
Speaker 5: while we're chasing that, Yeah, if you was.

1270
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 4: Being lifted your own devices the first project, I'll just

1271
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 4: let y'all keep doing all this. Obviously didn't know what

1272
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:41,520
Speaker 4: they're doing.

1273
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 2: Let's leave them alone.

1274
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 5: That's what he did. He was like, Okay, I'm gonna

1275
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 5: get y'all niggas some producers. He put us in the

1276
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:56,760
Speaker 5: studio with Rhythm D and J Unique, Tony C, all

1277
00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 5: these guys.

1278
00:59:57,600 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

1279
00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:02,600
Speaker 5: Drake Ghost, we was all in studio with and he

1280
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:05,680
Speaker 5: would go hind new business. You know, he'd be out

1281
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:08,960
Speaker 5: there or he'd have he had his office set up

1282
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 5: over here, all the white people coming in and now

1283
01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 5: he ain't but he ain't messed with us.

1284
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:16,480
Speaker 2: He's like, what y'all let me hear what y'all.

1285
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 5: Did, and we'll play it for him and he'd like

1286
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:22,000
Speaker 5: it or not like it, you know what I'm saying.

1287
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:23,840
Speaker 2: But most of the time he liked it. He was

1288
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 2: hip hop. Y'all write me a verse. No, you're gonna

1289
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 2: write your own shit.

1290
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 5: He you know what I'm saying, like his and he

1291
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:34,880
Speaker 5: he really started like he was he was.

1292
01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:36,479
Speaker 2: Finn to be a bomb member. Man?

1293
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:38,000
Speaker 4: Is that right on?

1294
01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 2: Everything?

1295
01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:41,160
Speaker 5: You see that you see the braids to the back, man,

1296
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:44,240
Speaker 5: you see before he left Earth, Man, he was Nigga

1297
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:47,080
Speaker 5: was braided up, you know, still in the same pendleton

1298
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 5: buttoning up, hot as hell, you know what I mean.

1299
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 2: But at the same time.

1300
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:55,040
Speaker 5: It wasn't the curl wasn't the curl was going slowly

1301
01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 5: fading out.

1302
01:00:56,880 --> 01:00:59,080
Speaker 2: I mean that Nigga was a that was e bomb.

1303
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:02,400
Speaker 4: That would have been hard dug, that would have been dope.

1304
01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:05,160
Speaker 5: It was it was it was happening, man, Like all

1305
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:06,680
Speaker 5: that shit happened so fast?

1306
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:07,880
Speaker 4: Did it seems surreal?

1307
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:08,160
Speaker 2: Bro?

1308
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:12,360
Speaker 4: Because sometimes even some like sometimes I've had like my

1309
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:16,240
Speaker 4: own incredible moments in life to where sometimes I'd just

1310
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:18,320
Speaker 4: like to slow it down and embrace the moment because

1311
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:20,240
Speaker 4: I'd be like, man, this shit really happening for me

1312
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 4: right like right now? Was it one of those type

1313
01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:23,680
Speaker 4: of moments with you?

1314
01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:26,960
Speaker 5: I mean yeah, I mean we we got out to

1315
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 5: California November twenty third. We left November twenty third, nineteen

1316
01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 5: ninety three. Our first shit came out June twenty fourth,

1317
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:40,640
Speaker 5: nineteen ninety four, So we didn't hook up with Easy

1318
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:45,680
Speaker 5: E until after until like February, you know what I'm saying.

1319
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 5: So February March April May we recorded that all about

1320
01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:52,560
Speaker 5: fifteen songs.

1321
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:55,120
Speaker 2: He put that shit out, He took his album.

1322
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:58,000
Speaker 5: He was finna put his album out, and if he

1323
01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:01,920
Speaker 5: hadn't did that, when it never came out, he stopped

1324
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:06,720
Speaker 5: his album, put our ship out. And that was ninety four.

1325
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:10,000
Speaker 5: He died in ninety five, so we only knew he

1326
01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:11,880
Speaker 5: a little over a year.

1327
01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:17,080
Speaker 4: Wow, changed your life that quick, that quick. It was

1328
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:19,880
Speaker 4: unselfish about it because he said he took he I'm

1329
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:22,000
Speaker 4: not gonna put my album on. He was a majoritist.

1330
01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:25,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, and then and he had some ship because he

1331
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:27,280
Speaker 5: was feeling he won the Bomber.

1332
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:31,360
Speaker 2: He was coming on. He had it for the dog Pound.

1333
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:33,040
Speaker 2: He was coming for them niggas.

1334
01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:37,240
Speaker 5: But he saw talent though this was this for me

1335
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:41,440
Speaker 5: would solidified him as an executive visionary.

1336
01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:43,840
Speaker 2: Right that nigga stopped.

1337
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:45,919
Speaker 5: What he was doing and was like, I'm gonna put

1338
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:48,600
Speaker 5: these guys out as executive.

1339
01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:54,000
Speaker 6: That's the difference between a rap executive and a nigga

1340
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:56,640
Speaker 6: who know the vision. Vision like, it ain't about me

1341
01:02:56,800 --> 01:03:00,640
Speaker 6: being here. These niggas is gonna surpass me. You get me,

1342
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:03,120
Speaker 6: but I need to go there right now, I'm thinking

1343
01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:06,040
Speaker 6: like an executive because a normal nigga in that position

1344
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:10,080
Speaker 6: would be like, man, put my record out first.

1345
01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 1: You got a gang of them.

1346
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:15,720
Speaker 6: You got a gang of niggas who call themselves executives.

1347
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:18,040
Speaker 1: But then they don't think like that.

1348
01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:21,480
Speaker 6: That's why the careers and the successors of their artists

1349
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:25,880
Speaker 6: don't climb past the motherfucking ant hell because they don't

1350
01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:29,760
Speaker 6: see the vision of going. Man, these niggas is finna

1351
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:32,920
Speaker 6: be way larger than how you get me. So let

1352
01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:35,760
Speaker 6: me stop my shit, un Let's shoot the ship right here.

1353
01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:38,160
Speaker 6: That was smart. You get me, But like you said,

1354
01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:41,040
Speaker 6: he was a real executive, and shit, you feel me.

1355
01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:44,200
Speaker 6: He learned that from being a street hustler. You feel

1356
01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:46,840
Speaker 6: me like, I know what, I know what works are

1357
01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:49,200
Speaker 6: not gonna work. I'm not gonna waste my time with

1358
01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:51,400
Speaker 6: this sack when I know I can get bigger money

1359
01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:52,600
Speaker 6: over here, you feel me?

1360
01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:56,680
Speaker 5: He putting out NWA but still got the wherew thor

1361
01:03:56,840 --> 01:03:59,680
Speaker 5: to put out jj FAD exactly.

1362
01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:00,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1363
01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:03,440
Speaker 4: Jj FAD was this first platinum althum I believe, wasn't it?

1364
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:03,640
Speaker 2: Man?

1365
01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:06,160
Speaker 5: I mean he had all the nigga had at a

1366
01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:08,720
Speaker 5: group called at band Klan with Will I Am when

1367
01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:12,000
Speaker 5: we first came out here. So he had this nigga

1368
01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:16,000
Speaker 5: had all kind of weird artists, like he was really

1369
01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:17,800
Speaker 5: like he was on.

1370
01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:19,200
Speaker 4: He was he was that.

1371
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:21,000
Speaker 2: I wanted to be that, like.

1372
01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:24,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm a real record fucking label.

1373
01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:28,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, man, like that's what I wanted to be.

1374
01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:31,640
Speaker 4: Because y'all was the most important group at that label

1375
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:34,960
Speaker 4: at that time. Because you gotta remember Dread left and

1376
01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:36,800
Speaker 4: they was over there doing their thing when you know,

1377
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:39,040
Speaker 4: death Ro came. They were smashing you know what I mean,

1378
01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:41,480
Speaker 4: they were smashing everything that he was dropping with solid

1379
01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:45,960
Speaker 4: right and he dropped y'all and y'all was that mega

1380
01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:46,640
Speaker 4: time bomb.

1381
01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:48,960
Speaker 1: It was like, yeah, that, for the love of money

1382
01:04:49,120 --> 01:04:49,600
Speaker 1: was killer.

1383
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:51,000
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying That and that was like

1384
01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:52,760
Speaker 4: I was like this, you know, I was around here,

1385
01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:54,520
Speaker 4: shee'zing like a mother for you know, every time of

1386
01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:57,480
Speaker 4: Cleveland nigga do something else. I'm like, yeah, y'all, nigga, see,

1387
01:04:57,480 --> 01:04:59,760
Speaker 4: don't start trying to bite the army swag either, nigga.

1388
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:02,360
Speaker 4: And they from the motherfucking part section of the town.

1389
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:03,720
Speaker 4: I'm from two niggas home.

1390
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:08,320
Speaker 6: He was watching Drew Carry Man stop playing fuck with

1391
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:13,160
Speaker 6: Drew Carrey.

1392
01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:16,320
Speaker 2: Carry on the east side to yeah, just downtown.

1393
01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:18,600
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, Drew Carry used to suck me and Drew

1394
01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:24,720
Speaker 4: Carey used to hustle together. Carr had a second God,

1395
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:27,120
Speaker 4: they can tell him. Put y'all the price is right there,

1396
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:30,600
Speaker 4: nigger ship. You try to get all. Drew Carry sold

1397
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:34,160
Speaker 4: my first zone, all the stuff stuff in front of me,

1398
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:35,000
Speaker 4: my first zone.

1399
01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:35,360
Speaker 2: You know.

1400
01:05:37,120 --> 01:05:42,480
Speaker 4: But man, you know what dog the thing is when

1401
01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:45,680
Speaker 4: y'all came out. Man, the thing I liked too is

1402
01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:48,480
Speaker 4: that y'all didn't get too heavily invested in the It

1403
01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:51,640
Speaker 4: was all about music because at that time Ruthless was

1404
01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:53,920
Speaker 4: firing back with music. But when Easy did drop this ship,

1405
01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:54,760
Speaker 4: it was impactful.

1406
01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:58,800
Speaker 6: Know we we and I can speak on like even

1407
01:05:58,800 --> 01:06:01,760
Speaker 6: coming from the West coast. We banged some we banged

1408
01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:05,440
Speaker 6: some bone even like the thuggish Ruggish man. We banged

1409
01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:08,520
Speaker 6: all y'all ship from the beginning. So it was just

1410
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:12,720
Speaker 6: it was it was just different. It was saying, as

1411
01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:15,120
Speaker 6: far as hip hop was concerned, you know, you had

1412
01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:17,920
Speaker 6: an East coast ship and then you know the West

1413
01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:20,840
Speaker 6: coast we had our ship. But it was it was

1414
01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:23,400
Speaker 6: something different. Man, I'm gonna tell you something. I'm gonna

1415
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:25,360
Speaker 6: tell you a no offense because some of y'all niggas

1416
01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:29,400
Speaker 6: at my homies, but when something new comes, here come

1417
01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:32,760
Speaker 6: the slew of poor man imitations. It was like a

1418
01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:35,840
Speaker 6: bunch of fake bone troops that came out after that. Man,

1419
01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:38,640
Speaker 6: everybody just thought it was about and we were so cold.

1420
01:06:38,680 --> 01:06:40,840
Speaker 6: Some of them dudes was just mumbling they didn't have

1421
01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:43,280
Speaker 6: the Kate and sy right, you know what I'm saying.

1422
01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:45,600
Speaker 6: They wasn't incorporating the melodies and stuff. They was just

1423
01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:46,439
Speaker 6: on that pretty much.

1424
01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:50,720
Speaker 4: You know.

1425
01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:53,680
Speaker 5: I'm glad. I'm glad you said that though, because it's

1426
01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:58,600
Speaker 5: like and then and then I really recognized the pattern

1427
01:06:58,720 --> 01:07:00,800
Speaker 5: of how the in the street.

1428
01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:04,360
Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean? Like, but I recognized

1429
01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:06,000
Speaker 2: it watching Little Wayne.

1430
01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:06,280
Speaker 4: Though.

1431
01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:09,200
Speaker 2: It was like when Little Wayne hit and by that

1432
01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:10,200
Speaker 2: nigga blew up.

1433
01:07:10,200 --> 01:07:14,440
Speaker 5: Like by itself with everybody had to sound like Little Wayne,

1434
01:07:15,160 --> 01:07:16,800
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. But that's how they did

1435
01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:20,160
Speaker 5: bomb But I was in it. I really couldn't. I

1436
01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:22,600
Speaker 5: couldn't step out and see what was going on.

1437
01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:25,120
Speaker 4: It got real corny for a minute though.

1438
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:27,920
Speaker 5: I had to look in hindsight, you know what I mean. Like,

1439
01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:33,000
Speaker 5: but yeah, niggas like a thousand niggas, like every record label,

1440
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:38,280
Speaker 5: like when Easy Easy E died. Man, everybody tried to

1441
01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:42,280
Speaker 5: steal Bomb Thugs in Harmony from Ruthless Records. We was

1442
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:43,800
Speaker 5: just loyal, you know what I mean.

1443
01:07:43,960 --> 01:07:45,920
Speaker 4: Who was the one? I know was somebody that had

1444
01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:49,160
Speaker 4: to check the heck y'all? Like thinking, like, man, it.

1445
01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:52,040
Speaker 5: Was only seven majors I've been at. I've been at

1446
01:07:52,080 --> 01:07:54,280
Speaker 5: every last one of them, you know what I'm saying.

1447
01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:57,640
Speaker 5: So they came in, they beating out, beating our door

1448
01:07:57,760 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 5: down for bomb Thugs and Harmony. That's how I got

1449
01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:03,240
Speaker 5: deal with def Jam for Fleshing Bone because he wasn't

1450
01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:04,840
Speaker 5: signed in the group, you.

1451
01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:07,480
Speaker 2: Know what I mean. And then that's how I was

1452
01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:12,560
Speaker 2: able to parlay the more thugs shit that relativity because they.

1453
01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:15,800
Speaker 5: Wanted that bone thugs in harmony sound you know what

1454
01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:21,160
Speaker 5: I mean? Like that, Now we're talking about influence and

1455
01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:26,400
Speaker 5: the contributions that was made to this, to this thing

1456
01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:32,200
Speaker 5: we love. We number twenty one on the Billboard Group list.

1457
01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:34,360
Speaker 2: Right fuck out of here.

1458
01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:40,120
Speaker 5: Everybody got their hair braided, Everybody changed their wrap flow

1459
01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:45,080
Speaker 5: from Mariah Carey to bust the Rhymes to name them.

1460
01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:51,400
Speaker 5: Everybody put a little flow, not everybody.

1461
01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:53,360
Speaker 2: But mostly like but the contribute.

1462
01:08:53,400 --> 01:08:57,000
Speaker 5: What I'm trying to say is the contribution, the overall influence,

1463
01:08:57,360 --> 01:09:01,439
Speaker 5: the impact that we brought to the TA. The whole

1464
01:09:01,479 --> 01:09:04,080
Speaker 5: industry tried to come behind. We had to fight the

1465
01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:05,760
Speaker 5: whole industry.

1466
01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:07,439
Speaker 2: Just to.

1467
01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:14,920
Speaker 5: Not be drowned out by them bringing imitators to the table.

1468
01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:16,479
Speaker 4: And some of y'all brought to the game. I don't

1469
01:09:16,479 --> 01:09:18,360
Speaker 4: know if you noticed, but like I said, I stay

1470
01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:25,240
Speaker 4: this stuff right. Since y'all came in, it's like the

1471
01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:27,800
Speaker 4: generation that's raised was raised off y'all that might have

1472
01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:31,080
Speaker 4: been little babies and stuff like y'all was almost like

1473
01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:34,160
Speaker 4: the Curtis Mayfields that came in, right. A bunch of

1474
01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:36,519
Speaker 4: kids don't grow up listening to y'all. Not everybody rapping

1475
01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:40,080
Speaker 4: with melodies. Now everybody's rapping with a melody. Now you

1476
01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:43,120
Speaker 4: almost can't be a rapper. Now. That's why it's important

1477
01:09:43,120 --> 01:09:45,840
Speaker 4: for rappers like Scarlett to blow up and with the

1478
01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:49,760
Speaker 4: One Girl, the Big Topic girl from Cleveland, because they

1479
01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:52,559
Speaker 4: bring their straight eggs back to it, like I'm just rapping.

1480
01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:55,560
Speaker 4: I don't got no melodies in my stuff. But everything

1481
01:09:55,760 --> 01:09:59,320
Speaker 4: since then it's almost been like a bone knockoff dog.

1482
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:03,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, definitely, I mean that that was our contribution. Like

1483
01:10:04,479 --> 01:10:06,000
Speaker 5: I used to be, man, I used to look at

1484
01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:08,599
Speaker 5: those lists like, man, they don't give us our props,

1485
01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:12,160
Speaker 5: but it really don't even matter no more than because

1486
01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:16,679
Speaker 5: you know, we know, like just to look if I

1487
01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:19,280
Speaker 5: turn on the radio and be like, no, I had

1488
01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:23,240
Speaker 5: something to do, just to just to know, like the West,

1489
01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:26,000
Speaker 5: the way the West, the way n w A and

1490
01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:29,760
Speaker 5: y'all influenced the game with gangster rap music, you know

1491
01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:32,080
Speaker 5: what I mean. That's how I feel like our melodies

1492
01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:36,080
Speaker 5: had an impact, like to that degree.

1493
01:10:36,160 --> 01:10:38,200
Speaker 6: You know, when I hear a gang nigga saying ji

1494
01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:42,679
Speaker 6: on records, you get me, you feel me. I don't

1495
01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:47,240
Speaker 6: look at it as damn man, all these famous ass

1496
01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:52,080
Speaker 6: mega motherfuckers be saying jeer and knock one. Nigga will

1497
01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:55,880
Speaker 6: come out and say, I ain't gonna lie. First person

1498
01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:57,519
Speaker 6: I ever heard say that was eight.

1499
01:10:57,840 --> 01:11:01,639
Speaker 1: You know. Niggas be like, oh shit, I just started

1500
01:11:01,720 --> 01:11:03,080
Speaker 1: saying it. You get me.

1501
01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:05,559
Speaker 6: I don't look at it as I'll just be like,

1502
01:11:05,680 --> 01:11:08,920
Speaker 6: you know something, I know where it started from. I mean,

1503
01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:11,840
Speaker 6: and if niggas, if you look back and check their

1504
01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:16,000
Speaker 6: history from from eighty seven on, I was you know

1505
01:11:16,040 --> 01:11:18,960
Speaker 6: what I'm saying. So everybody came after that it was

1506
01:11:19,080 --> 01:11:22,160
Speaker 6: influenced by it. And if you was influenced by it, cool,

1507
01:11:22,360 --> 01:11:24,040
Speaker 6: I'm I'm glad you used it.

1508
01:11:24,080 --> 01:11:28,200
Speaker 5: We said that shit, nigga like, but we knew where.

1509
01:11:28,439 --> 01:11:29,760
Speaker 5: We knew where it came from.

1510
01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:32,759
Speaker 6: Some people some people like, oh yeah, I know, nigga,

1511
01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:35,360
Speaker 6: that's MC eight all day. And then there's some dude

1512
01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:39,679
Speaker 6: who be like, I don't say nothing about it.

1513
01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:41,000
Speaker 1: It is what it is, and.

1514
01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:42,840
Speaker 4: I don't want to sound like I'm dissing nobody, So

1515
01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:46,320
Speaker 4: please don't nobody take Because I think brothers do what

1516
01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:48,519
Speaker 4: they got to do to get opportunities, and these labels

1517
01:11:48,520 --> 01:11:50,600
Speaker 4: they saw you all were successful, so obviously it was like,

1518
01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:53,160
Speaker 4: we need to find we need to find us boone

1519
01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:55,400
Speaker 4: Thugs Harmony because I know at one time it was

1520
01:11:55,439 --> 01:11:58,400
Speaker 4: a prominent Southern rap label that had people on the

1521
01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:02,760
Speaker 4: streets looking for booms Like, yeah, I don't want to,

1522
01:12:02,840 --> 01:12:03,680
Speaker 4: you know, talk about it.

1523
01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:08,320
Speaker 6: But they was literally copy, they go copy what's popular?

1524
01:12:08,720 --> 01:12:12,160
Speaker 6: I want to ride? What's popular? Movies do it all day?

1525
01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:16,439
Speaker 6: You see a nigga make a movie about Vietnam? How

1526
01:12:16,479 --> 01:12:20,280
Speaker 6: many movies different companies that made movies about Vietnam or

1527
01:12:20,360 --> 01:12:24,639
Speaker 6: spaceships or fucking the president getting killed or whatever.

1528
01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:26,320
Speaker 4: Everybody wants something that's popular.

1529
01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:30,479
Speaker 6: Though, if it were ship, I'm gonna I'm gonna ride.

1530
01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:33,800
Speaker 6: That's how they do it. The world so fat. That's

1531
01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:38,360
Speaker 6: a motherfucking that's what you call it? Cop what's funny

1532
01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:41,680
Speaker 6: about boom Man? It's y'all all got all different personalities, right,

1533
01:12:42,080 --> 01:12:44,080
Speaker 6: because I'm cool with crazy crazy, you know create a

1534
01:12:44,120 --> 01:12:45,559
Speaker 6: Humber cra is real reserve.

1535
01:12:46,320 --> 01:12:48,439
Speaker 4: He's a quiet dude. You always seem like you was

1536
01:12:48,439 --> 01:12:50,040
Speaker 4: a nigga that was out in traffic. I said, that's

1537
01:12:50,040 --> 01:12:52,439
Speaker 4: the nigga to be out in traffic, probably wiggling with everybody.

1538
01:12:52,479 --> 01:12:56,599
Speaker 5: Right, you're the one that you're the wiggling, which seemed

1539
01:12:56,600 --> 01:13:00,479
Speaker 5: like he can't like the doom, you know, you know,

1540
01:13:00,520 --> 01:13:01,400
Speaker 5: he he a bet a goon.

1541
01:13:01,479 --> 01:13:03,719
Speaker 4: He'd a no nonsense nigga. Didn't fire on the nigga,

1542
01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:06,599
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. Flesh seemed like he don't

1543
01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:08,160
Speaker 4: play no type of games, you know what I mean.

1544
01:13:08,240 --> 01:13:11,080
Speaker 4: So it's a it's a service structure there. But Busy

1545
01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:14,519
Speaker 4: is the wild card. He's the nigga that's go start

1546
01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:16,960
Speaker 4: a fight somewhere he ain't supposed to start a fight

1547
01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:19,800
Speaker 4: at and go talk some shit, to say some shit

1548
01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:21,679
Speaker 4: he ain't supposed to say. I was at the verses, right,

1549
01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:23,800
Speaker 4: I didn't go to the thing though, I didn't go

1550
01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:26,479
Speaker 4: to the actual verses. I was at the hotel. I

1551
01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:29,479
Speaker 4: actually had it is. I'm I'm cool with one of

1552
01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:33,000
Speaker 4: my homeboys. Shout out to Uncle Beats down with three six, right,

1553
01:13:33,120 --> 01:13:34,439
Speaker 4: do a lot of shit with three six. So I

1554
01:13:34,479 --> 01:13:36,880
Speaker 4: was up there fucking with Crunchy Black Uncle Beats. That's

1555
01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:39,720
Speaker 4: my dog, that's your boy, that's my nigga right there,

1556
01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:41,320
Speaker 4: you know, shout out the boy. I was kicking it with,

1557
01:13:41,640 --> 01:13:45,479
Speaker 4: you know, Lola and the other homie, and we was

1558
01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:47,360
Speaker 4: up there talking and they said, while you over here,

1559
01:13:47,439 --> 01:13:49,320
Speaker 4: still you at Cleveland, nigga, you came to get some

1560
01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:52,840
Speaker 4: intail for your bone people, because we about to smash him.

1561
01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:55,320
Speaker 4: And they had all kinds of niggas run through the hotel.

1562
01:13:56,479 --> 01:13:58,920
Speaker 4: I never felt like a little kid again though. But

1563
01:13:58,960 --> 01:14:01,840
Speaker 4: when the Homies eight ball MJG came through that motherfucker

1564
01:14:02,439 --> 01:14:05,360
Speaker 4: and you know that nigga MJG. He almost remember that

1565
01:14:05,439 --> 01:14:07,599
Speaker 4: old school movie Willie Danna Mike had that nigga walk

1566
01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:10,920
Speaker 4: down the stairs at that courthouse. That nigga MJG. Don't

1567
01:14:10,960 --> 01:14:13,000
Speaker 4: touch the ground when he walked. He really like he

1568
01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:15,320
Speaker 4: really in character all the time. You know, he come

1569
01:14:15,400 --> 01:14:17,160
Speaker 4: in there, he got two white girls in his arm.

1570
01:14:17,160 --> 01:14:18,600
Speaker 4: He skipped up in that mother for them. I'm like,

1571
01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:21,559
Speaker 4: oh shit, damn b MJG. And now I said, y'all

1572
01:14:21,640 --> 01:14:23,439
Speaker 4: niggas just got to pull the cheek code out for

1573
01:14:23,479 --> 01:14:25,599
Speaker 4: all the Cleveland niggas. But they would come by theyself.

1574
01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:29,240
Speaker 4: But then y'all came with some surprises. Did you think

1575
01:14:29,240 --> 01:14:30,880
Speaker 4: it was gonna be one of the moments, man, when

1576
01:14:30,920 --> 01:14:32,000
Speaker 4: Busy tripped out up there.

1577
01:14:32,439 --> 01:14:34,960
Speaker 5: I mean, you always gotta expect something to happen, you

1578
01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:38,000
Speaker 5: know what I mean? Just like with that whole bond

1579
01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:41,720
Speaker 5: thugs and harmony in three six Mafia. The history is

1580
01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:46,439
Speaker 5: so rich and the few was so real, you know

1581
01:14:46,439 --> 01:14:50,960
Speaker 5: what I mean, Like he had to expect something. I mean,

1582
01:14:51,080 --> 01:14:53,760
Speaker 5: but Busy Bone, you know what I mean, that's that's

1583
01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:54,559
Speaker 5: Busy Bone.

1584
01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:57,920
Speaker 2: You never know that he gonna say something, something gonna.

1585
01:14:58,240 --> 01:15:01,720
Speaker 6: Heugly motherfuckers to keep playing with me.

1586
01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:06,080
Speaker 4: And I just remember Boo going, Busy you a hater?

1587
01:15:06,479 --> 01:15:07,040
Speaker 4: You would hater?

1588
01:15:07,160 --> 01:15:12,280
Speaker 6: Busy rest, Yeah, there's a piece of boost. Was he

1589
01:15:12,320 --> 01:15:15,639
Speaker 6: a hater because they was ugly or what? Because he said?

1590
01:15:16,520 --> 01:15:21,080
Speaker 4: Oh no, I just think that's lost. She was funny

1591
01:15:21,080 --> 01:15:21,840
Speaker 4: as a motherfucker.

1592
01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:26,760
Speaker 5: Our joke by backstage was like these ugly mother and

1593
01:15:26,800 --> 01:15:29,320
Speaker 5: this blurted that ship out.

1594
01:15:29,439 --> 01:15:32,559
Speaker 6: Was you a Haterigga said? You an ugly? Wild fucking

1595
01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:34,400
Speaker 6: ship was.

1596
01:15:34,360 --> 01:15:36,840
Speaker 4: So funny because it seemed like it can't noek because

1597
01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:38,720
Speaker 4: you ain't know if Busy was playing at first, but

1598
01:15:38,720 --> 01:15:41,360
Speaker 4: then he's like he was serious than the motherfucker. Yeah,

1599
01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:42,960
Speaker 4: that nigga is passionate.

1600
01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:48,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it was the words that was exchanged

1601
01:15:49,560 --> 01:15:51,800
Speaker 5: went too far, you know what I'm saying With the

1602
01:15:51,880 --> 01:15:57,360
Speaker 5: nigga Juice Jay has said was inappropriate because we don't.

1603
01:15:57,080 --> 01:16:01,400
Speaker 2: Play that suck my dig ship. This shit crazy like.

1604
01:16:02,280 --> 01:16:05,559
Speaker 5: When men say that to me and nigga, that's always

1605
01:16:05,680 --> 01:16:06,920
Speaker 5: gonna I'm from.

1606
01:16:07,680 --> 01:16:09,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's the thing. But this man from

1607
01:16:09,680 --> 01:16:11,400
Speaker 4: to a nigga invite me to his dick dog, I

1608
01:16:11,479 --> 01:16:12,880
Speaker 4: might put my steel on his ass.

1609
01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:15,599
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, And that's why that got out of hand

1610
01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:16,960
Speaker 5: like that, you know what I mean.

1611
01:16:17,080 --> 01:16:20,200
Speaker 2: But you know what I mean, just and I want

1612
01:16:20,240 --> 01:16:22,880
Speaker 2: to add, you know, we talked to them, but were

1613
01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:24,360
Speaker 2: probably about to go on tour.

1614
01:16:24,479 --> 01:16:27,160
Speaker 5: We was about to go on tour with them right

1615
01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:29,880
Speaker 5: after that until boot pass, you know what I mean.

1616
01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:33,200
Speaker 5: So they was they was working on that, so you

1617
01:16:33,200 --> 01:16:35,439
Speaker 5: know what I mean, Like all that shit gets squashed, man,

1618
01:16:35,560 --> 01:16:41,519
Speaker 5: misunderstanding the heat of the moment, all that testosterone, all

1619
01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:45,400
Speaker 5: that talent, all that Bravardo.

1620
01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:47,000
Speaker 2: Up there, you know what I'm saying. So you gotta

1621
01:16:47,040 --> 01:16:48,360
Speaker 2: expect something to happen.

1622
01:16:48,439 --> 01:16:51,200
Speaker 4: Man, it just goes down like that sometimes. Man. The

1623
01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:54,280
Speaker 4: one thing I love about you all niggas, though it's

1624
01:16:54,320 --> 01:16:57,240
Speaker 4: no matter right or wrong, y'all always unified up in

1625
01:16:57,280 --> 01:16:59,280
Speaker 4: that motherfucker. Like you know what I'm saying. I said, Man,

1626
01:16:59,320 --> 01:17:01,160
Speaker 4: they probably could that that nigga out on the way home,

1627
01:17:01,240 --> 01:17:03,519
Speaker 4: but they go ride with him. That's how it's supposed

1628
01:17:03,560 --> 01:17:05,519
Speaker 4: to be because everybody got that one homeboy that's go

1629
01:17:05,640 --> 01:17:06,000
Speaker 4: act up.

1630
01:17:06,320 --> 01:17:07,559
Speaker 1: Oh definitely, But.

1631
01:17:07,560 --> 01:17:10,200
Speaker 4: You gotta ride with him because y'all been fronk y'all family.

1632
01:17:10,320 --> 01:17:13,000
Speaker 5: I mean thing about it is he ares, you know

1633
01:17:13,040 --> 01:17:15,759
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, So y'all can't touching.

1634
01:17:16,600 --> 01:17:23,479
Speaker 4: That's real shit, right, real ship. Let me ask you this, bro,

1635
01:17:25,160 --> 01:17:27,280
Speaker 4: and you ain't gotta say no names, man, but did

1636
01:17:27,320 --> 01:17:29,280
Speaker 4: you ever see one of them fake bone groups and

1637
01:17:29,360 --> 01:17:31,040
Speaker 4: just laugh, man, and just say this is the worst

1638
01:17:31,080 --> 01:17:34,040
Speaker 4: shit ever? Like, what's the worst copy cop? What's the

1639
01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:35,639
Speaker 4: worst knockoff? You know what I'm saying?

1640
01:17:36,960 --> 01:17:37,800
Speaker 2: Ah, Man, it was.

1641
01:17:38,040 --> 01:17:42,200
Speaker 5: It was just one group out of New Orleans. Them

1642
01:17:42,280 --> 01:17:45,320
Speaker 5: niggas hated us. We ain't know who they was. I

1643
01:17:45,360 --> 01:17:49,000
Speaker 5: didn't even know who they was til about fifteen years later. Like,

1644
01:17:49,120 --> 01:17:52,479
Speaker 5: but they really wanted to be boned. I don't even

1645
01:17:52,520 --> 01:17:53,080
Speaker 5: know their name.

1646
01:17:53,479 --> 01:17:55,400
Speaker 2: They know who they are. Yeah, yeah, you.

1647
01:17:55,360 --> 01:17:57,360
Speaker 4: Don't want to give no publicity like that, man, of

1648
01:17:57,360 --> 01:17:59,120
Speaker 4: course you don't want to give him no puz.

1649
01:17:59,200 --> 01:17:59,880
Speaker 2: Niggas was weak.

1650
01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:02,559
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying gave them by saying where

1651
01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:03,200
Speaker 1: they was from.

1652
01:18:03,280 --> 01:18:05,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, the niggas down there, No, they gonna take their

1653
01:18:05,320 --> 01:18:05,960
Speaker 4: little segment and.

1654
01:18:05,960 --> 01:18:08,559
Speaker 1: Say, see he was.

1655
01:18:08,040 --> 01:18:11,640
Speaker 6: The whole time already gave him enough lazy boom. We

1656
01:18:11,800 --> 01:18:14,160
Speaker 6: already called them where they was from. So now they

1657
01:18:14,240 --> 01:18:17,320
Speaker 6: gonna be feeling good. The nigga said what we was from?

1658
01:18:17,479 --> 01:18:20,400
Speaker 2: Dog nigga, can't never call me no hater man.

1659
01:18:20,680 --> 01:18:25,639
Speaker 5: You know, I opened doors for niggas exactly like they

1660
01:18:25,640 --> 01:18:28,000
Speaker 5: can say what they want to say that. If that's

1661
01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:30,160
Speaker 5: what you got to say about me, you really don't

1662
01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:32,760
Speaker 5: know me, because you can ask anybody who know me.

1663
01:18:33,920 --> 01:18:35,240
Speaker 4: You know what I mean, y'all gonna give you a

1664
01:18:35,280 --> 01:18:36,920
Speaker 4: lot of cats opportunities though.

1665
01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:39,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean a whole lot of them because they

1666
01:18:39,439 --> 01:18:41,000
Speaker 2: was given to us. You know what I mean.

1667
01:18:41,240 --> 01:18:46,080
Speaker 5: I'm a nigga Cleveland man who would imagine, like you

1668
01:18:46,160 --> 01:18:49,439
Speaker 5: gotta think ninety three when y'all put our minutes to society.

1669
01:18:49,479 --> 01:18:52,519
Speaker 5: You know how much influence that ship was in my life?

1670
01:18:53,280 --> 01:18:54,040
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying?

1671
01:18:54,160 --> 01:18:57,800
Speaker 2: Like y'all, like you growing up in the hood.

1672
01:18:57,600 --> 01:19:00,519
Speaker 5: That song nigga right there, like we was that was

1673
01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:04,960
Speaker 5: and we was living that when we left Cleveland. We

1674
01:19:05,000 --> 01:19:09,640
Speaker 5: was living that, like, so the opportunity was provided to

1675
01:19:09,760 --> 01:19:10,559
Speaker 5: us for us to.

1676
01:19:10,520 --> 01:19:13,040
Speaker 2: Meet Easy Eat from Cleveland.

1677
01:19:13,920 --> 01:19:16,800
Speaker 5: You look to them ride this nigga drive and I'm

1678
01:19:17,120 --> 01:19:20,880
Speaker 5: shotgun looking like this Easy motherfucking Eats.

1679
01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:22,439
Speaker 4: One of the moments I talk about.

1680
01:19:22,600 --> 01:19:26,000
Speaker 5: One time, like when we first seeing y'all all, y'all

1681
01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:28,719
Speaker 5: like nigga we on the West Couse we're seeing y'all though,

1682
01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:31,320
Speaker 5: but we just seeing y'all in the movie. So that

1683
01:19:32,040 --> 01:19:36,840
Speaker 5: and that was unheard of Cleveland nigga like movies and

1684
01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:39,519
Speaker 5: like that shit was a dream, you know what I'm

1685
01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:43,439
Speaker 5: so we was afforded them opportunities, so I try to

1686
01:19:43,439 --> 01:19:45,920
Speaker 5: give it back sometimes though, Bro, you don't see it

1687
01:19:46,000 --> 01:19:47,720
Speaker 5: like you ever bring one of the homies from back

1688
01:19:47,720 --> 01:19:49,439
Speaker 5: of the crib out here though and just let them

1689
01:19:49,439 --> 01:19:51,200
Speaker 5: hang out, like you know, you got them homies.

1690
01:19:51,200 --> 01:19:53,760
Speaker 4: They ain't got no interest in being the entertainment. They

1691
01:19:53,840 --> 01:19:56,000
Speaker 4: just steal your It's still some niggas like that out

1692
01:19:56,040 --> 01:19:58,760
Speaker 4: there that just go always be your nigga, your same nigga. No,

1693
01:19:58,920 --> 01:20:00,800
Speaker 4: I don't want to do nothing. You ain't gotta give

1694
01:20:00,840 --> 01:20:02,200
Speaker 4: me nothing, but I'm gonna come out to fuck with

1695
01:20:02,240 --> 01:20:04,280
Speaker 4: you and they get out here and get to seeing

1696
01:20:04,280 --> 01:20:06,200
Speaker 4: this shit to be like, man, that was Such and Sex.

1697
01:20:06,280 --> 01:20:08,599
Speaker 4: I bought my homeboy Tad out here a few weeks ago,

1698
01:20:08,920 --> 01:20:10,640
Speaker 4: and he was like, Nigga, you just really knew all

1699
01:20:10,640 --> 01:20:12,960
Speaker 4: these niggas, don't you just floating around like they said

1700
01:20:13,160 --> 01:20:16,280
Speaker 4: it was regular NIGGASO. They people just like you and

1701
01:20:16,320 --> 01:20:17,439
Speaker 4: niggas just make music.

1702
01:20:18,320 --> 01:20:20,479
Speaker 5: I just tell him, like, you see why I'm in

1703
01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:22,880
Speaker 5: California because this is where they at.

1704
01:20:22,960 --> 01:20:26,160
Speaker 4: Nigga, Yeah, because it damn she ain't going down to Cleveland.

1705
01:20:26,200 --> 01:20:26,400
Speaker 1: Man.

1706
01:20:27,120 --> 01:20:29,360
Speaker 4: Well, man, I know I ain't asked you nowhere. I

1707
01:20:29,439 --> 01:20:31,559
Speaker 4: just didn't want to rehash a bunch of the same shit.

1708
01:20:31,680 --> 01:20:34,120
Speaker 4: Man that sometimes people get you all in these interviews.

1709
01:20:34,120 --> 01:20:36,080
Speaker 4: Bad y'all the dumbest shit dog in the world.

1710
01:20:36,320 --> 01:20:38,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, that and I hate them type of motherfucking in.

1711
01:20:38,960 --> 01:20:41,080
Speaker 4: It's like they just trying to reach instead of having

1712
01:20:41,120 --> 01:20:43,280
Speaker 4: the conversation and letting the shit be natural, They're trying

1713
01:20:43,320 --> 01:20:45,880
Speaker 4: to add. So, man, did you walk in on such

1714
01:20:45,880 --> 01:20:47,640
Speaker 4: and Sex when they was doing this and that? You

1715
01:20:47,680 --> 01:20:49,080
Speaker 4: know they just want to come out of the bat

1716
01:20:49,160 --> 01:20:51,240
Speaker 4: with some bullshit exactly.

1717
01:20:51,720 --> 01:20:51,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1718
01:20:51,920 --> 01:20:55,000
Speaker 5: I think I think this. You know, the conversation of

1719
01:20:55,200 --> 01:20:56,120
Speaker 5: just real niggas.

1720
01:20:56,120 --> 01:20:58,880
Speaker 6: Cond just try to talk and conversate with niggas and

1721
01:20:59,160 --> 01:21:02,879
Speaker 6: get a little in, get a people a little insight about,

1722
01:21:02,920 --> 01:21:07,120
Speaker 6: you know, how it was, and just real shit, you

1723
01:21:07,200 --> 01:21:09,480
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying. Because people look for red realism,

1724
01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:12,680
Speaker 6: you know you come from these places. They just want

1725
01:21:12,760 --> 01:21:15,679
Speaker 6: to hear a little a little bit of history about

1726
01:21:16,640 --> 01:21:20,400
Speaker 6: the same struggle, the same struggle, Yeah, and hopefully motivation.

1727
01:21:20,560 --> 01:21:23,320
Speaker 6: That's to an average nigga. Like you said, we get

1728
01:21:23,400 --> 01:21:27,200
Speaker 6: niggas who listen to us truck drivers, motherfuckers who just

1729
01:21:27,240 --> 01:21:31,160
Speaker 6: be chilling. They just want to hear that motherfuckers's normal

1730
01:21:31,200 --> 01:21:32,840
Speaker 6: motherfuckers sometimes.

1731
01:21:32,400 --> 01:21:34,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, and hear your perspective on stuff. Exactly.

1732
01:21:34,800 --> 01:21:36,880
Speaker 6: A lot of time niggas don't want to hear like

1733
01:21:37,520 --> 01:21:41,759
Speaker 6: you got a problem with this motherfucker, this conspiracy that happened,

1734
01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:45,000
Speaker 6: or we heard this or we heard man, don't I

1735
01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:46,960
Speaker 6: don't like to do that. And that's something I used

1736
01:21:47,000 --> 01:21:49,800
Speaker 6: to tell still about, Like we just got to talk

1737
01:21:49,840 --> 01:21:52,880
Speaker 6: to niggas about and if if it's a connection to

1738
01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:55,280
Speaker 6: the street, you know what I'm saying, we as we

1739
01:21:55,400 --> 01:22:00,360
Speaker 6: as as grown motherfuckers, know how to conversate without happen

1740
01:22:00,400 --> 01:22:04,760
Speaker 6: to dig into controversy and bullshit to a to a

1741
01:22:04,920 --> 01:22:07,240
Speaker 6: please a certain narrative.

1742
01:22:07,439 --> 01:22:09,519
Speaker 4: You tell you that right now. You know one thing

1743
01:22:09,560 --> 01:22:12,880
Speaker 4: I did want to ask you, though, Dog. They have

1744
01:22:13,040 --> 01:22:17,120
Speaker 4: been talking about these rich white folks, these rich folks

1745
01:22:17,120 --> 01:22:18,920
Speaker 4: that went to the bottom of the oceland. They went

1746
01:22:18,960 --> 01:22:21,519
Speaker 4: deeper than where the whale was going, and that just

1747
01:22:21,600 --> 01:22:24,360
Speaker 4: really governed the news right for most of the week. Right.

1748
01:22:24,600 --> 01:22:27,519
Speaker 4: But you had all these girls missing in Cleveland, right,

1749
01:22:28,840 --> 01:22:33,120
Speaker 4: If you notice as a pattern, Man, if we not

1750
01:22:33,280 --> 01:22:35,320
Speaker 4: care for Dog, they gonna fuck around, try to wipe

1751
01:22:35,360 --> 01:22:37,920
Speaker 4: us out one again, because it's all these and they

1752
01:22:38,040 --> 01:22:39,519
Speaker 4: not just doing it to the black girls, but they

1753
01:22:39,600 --> 01:22:45,280
Speaker 4: doing to the Mexican girls. Gang of young ladies missing

1754
01:22:45,280 --> 01:22:48,439
Speaker 4: from Mexico, right, gang of little girls man, between nine

1755
01:22:48,479 --> 01:22:50,759
Speaker 4: and fourteen, that was, you know, coming across the border,

1756
01:22:50,880 --> 01:22:54,960
Speaker 4: just disappear, right, Same thing happened in Cleveland, Same thing

1757
01:22:54,960 --> 01:22:58,040
Speaker 4: happened in Atlanta. Now you notice a pattern, man, anybody

1758
01:22:58,200 --> 01:23:03,880
Speaker 4: they deemed this being indispen You're easily dispensable. They like disappearing, Dog.

1759
01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:06,639
Speaker 4: I think it's something behind that shit, bro.

1760
01:23:08,600 --> 01:23:13,719
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, I'm just gonna say, man, America, Man,

1761
01:23:13,800 --> 01:23:15,280
Speaker 5: this is America, you know.

1762
01:23:15,400 --> 01:23:17,439
Speaker 6: Where, Yeah, where the government is set up. And the

1763
01:23:17,479 --> 01:23:20,880
Speaker 6: ship you see, I mean they give you clues to ship.

1764
01:23:21,000 --> 01:23:25,080
Speaker 6: And we done see enough shit on TVs and the

1765
01:23:25,120 --> 01:23:29,000
Speaker 6: news and conspiracy theories and movies and all to know

1766
01:23:30,080 --> 01:23:31,759
Speaker 6: it's ship that goes down.

1767
01:23:32,040 --> 01:23:35,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, the biggest cons want to cover it up.

1768
01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:40,200
Speaker 6: It's ship they go and they get It's.

1769
01:23:38,960 --> 01:23:40,920
Speaker 4: Just if you ever noticed, door bro, check this out,

1770
01:23:40,960 --> 01:23:42,880
Speaker 4: both of y'all. If you ever notice when it be

1771
01:23:42,960 --> 01:23:46,400
Speaker 4: some shit deep going down like that, it's always something

1772
01:23:46,400 --> 01:23:49,519
Speaker 4: crazy to happen, like a mass shooting, like something just

1773
01:23:49,560 --> 01:23:51,960
Speaker 4: crazy happening. It's almost like a distraction, like you know

1774
01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:55,000
Speaker 4: what I mean, It's like they put out all these

1775
01:23:55,040 --> 01:23:58,360
Speaker 4: distractions man, the media and all that stuff, right, they

1776
01:23:58,360 --> 01:24:00,880
Speaker 4: put all these distractions out there to distract you from

1777
01:24:00,880 --> 01:24:03,439
Speaker 4: the ship. That's real, right. They don't show you about

1778
01:24:03,439 --> 01:24:05,320
Speaker 4: these folks. Don't jump in the boat, you know. I

1779
01:24:05,400 --> 01:24:07,360
Speaker 4: mean niggas down the water every day, my nigga, that

1780
01:24:07,400 --> 01:24:08,599
Speaker 4: they don't the news don't cover.

1781
01:24:09,120 --> 01:24:13,679
Speaker 5: Right, So look that the submarine thing happened, right, all

1782
01:24:13,680 --> 01:24:18,000
Speaker 5: that all that coverage, all that media coverage, coverage, coverage, coverage, but.

1783
01:24:18,280 --> 01:24:21,280
Speaker 2: They didn't tell you so it was. It was a

1784
01:24:21,400 --> 01:24:22,640
Speaker 2: boat carrying.

1785
01:24:22,280 --> 01:24:23,320
Speaker 1: Like seven people.

1786
01:24:23,400 --> 01:24:29,200
Speaker 5: Seven people, yeah people, they only saved like a hundred

1787
01:24:29,200 --> 01:24:30,000
Speaker 5: of them.

1788
01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:33,800
Speaker 2: But they ain't talk about that. Why because they brown people. Man.

1789
01:24:34,200 --> 01:24:37,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like anybody, I mean, anybody that's not of

1790
01:24:37,120 --> 01:24:38,120
Speaker 4: importance to them.

1791
01:24:38,160 --> 01:24:38,320
Speaker 1: Bro.

1792
01:24:39,040 --> 01:24:40,760
Speaker 4: They feel like they can get away with it all

1793
01:24:40,840 --> 01:24:45,840
Speaker 4: most and sometimes they hide stuff in plain sight. Like

1794
01:24:45,880 --> 01:24:47,640
Speaker 4: they've been talking. I know you don't like shit like,

1795
01:24:47,880 --> 01:24:51,040
Speaker 4: but I gotta talk about this is real they're talking about.

1796
01:24:51,040 --> 01:24:54,080
Speaker 4: It's the moon. They don't found another moon that's been

1797
01:24:54,120 --> 01:24:56,880
Speaker 4: following the Earth for the last thousand years, right, and

1798
01:24:56,960 --> 01:24:58,719
Speaker 4: you just discovered it? How you know it's been following

1799
01:24:58,760 --> 01:25:01,880
Speaker 4: the Earth for a thousand years? Then just discovered it? Right?

1800
01:25:02,240 --> 01:25:02,439
Speaker 1: Man?

1801
01:25:02,479 --> 01:25:05,240
Speaker 5: I don't believe no motherfuckers still walked on the moon,

1802
01:25:06,160 --> 01:25:08,760
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. I always look at that

1803
01:25:08,880 --> 01:25:11,679
Speaker 5: picture they showed us in school. They put the flag

1804
01:25:11,760 --> 01:25:14,559
Speaker 5: in the moon. Is it any oxygen on the moon?

1805
01:25:15,120 --> 01:25:17,160
Speaker 5: How's the motherfucking flag floating?

1806
01:25:17,439 --> 01:25:19,760
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. It's a lot of little stuff.

1807
01:25:19,520 --> 01:25:22,320
Speaker 2: Like you know what I'm saying, Like you ain't the

1808
01:25:22,360 --> 01:25:23,200
Speaker 2: moon high.

1809
01:25:23,200 --> 01:25:24,439
Speaker 1: Fuck with that ship? Man?

1810
01:25:24,520 --> 01:25:29,400
Speaker 6: Ain't because like I said, when it comes to this

1811
01:25:30,040 --> 01:25:35,240
Speaker 6: thing that we call the government and presidents and fucking

1812
01:25:35,880 --> 01:25:42,439
Speaker 6: congressmen and ship. That's another world that that we know nothing.

1813
01:25:42,479 --> 01:25:45,599
Speaker 6: When you be seeing all these motherfucking shows and secret

1814
01:25:45,720 --> 01:25:51,679
Speaker 6: layers and project xes and all this shit, they ain't

1815
01:25:51,720 --> 01:25:54,360
Speaker 6: showing you that ship for nothing, So you could be

1816
01:25:54,400 --> 01:25:56,840
Speaker 6: you would be a damn fool to believe half the

1817
01:25:56,880 --> 01:25:59,800
Speaker 6: ship they tell you in the news, because it's all

1818
01:26:00,040 --> 01:26:04,360
Speaker 6: too It's all to pull the wall over your eyes

1819
01:26:04,479 --> 01:26:06,680
Speaker 6: or to switch and root tactic, you like if you

1820
01:26:06,680 --> 01:26:09,320
Speaker 6: ain't started playing the game and shit and if you

1821
01:26:09,360 --> 01:26:11,240
Speaker 6: ain't paying attention a nigga.

1822
01:26:11,760 --> 01:26:14,720
Speaker 4: Shell game like. But like you said, though, bro, a

1823
01:26:14,720 --> 01:26:19,280
Speaker 4: lot of people don't have the cognitive skills to understand like,

1824
01:26:19,400 --> 01:26:22,280
Speaker 4: ain't no Austin, how's the flag just waving?

1825
01:26:22,400 --> 01:26:22,600
Speaker 6: Like that?

1826
01:26:22,960 --> 01:26:23,120
Speaker 2: Right?

1827
01:26:23,439 --> 01:26:25,400
Speaker 4: You feel what I'm saying, how's the flag waving? So

1828
01:26:26,120 --> 01:26:27,840
Speaker 4: you got this other thing. And then they said that

1829
01:26:27,880 --> 01:26:30,320
Speaker 4: there was a big ass they've been talking about. It's

1830
01:26:30,320 --> 01:26:32,280
Speaker 4: a spaceship with something up there. But I'm gonna tell

1831
01:26:32,280 --> 01:26:35,760
Speaker 4: you like this, bro, it's so much shit that they

1832
01:26:35,840 --> 01:26:37,760
Speaker 4: hired for much dog. I think if they did tell

1833
01:26:37,840 --> 01:26:40,479
Speaker 4: us the truth, Dog would probably be mass chaos out here. Dog,

1834
01:26:40,600 --> 01:26:43,439
Speaker 4: the world we barely hanging on by three anyway.

1835
01:26:43,520 --> 01:26:47,240
Speaker 2: Dog, it's gonna be mass chaos anyway.

1836
01:26:47,439 --> 01:26:49,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, because they created Yeah, you.

1837
01:26:49,479 --> 01:26:52,320
Speaker 5: Know what I mean, because they want to depopularize the earth.

1838
01:26:53,000 --> 01:26:54,960
Speaker 5: They wanted you know what I mean, They want as

1839
01:26:55,080 --> 01:26:58,000
Speaker 5: less people as possible.

1840
01:26:58,880 --> 01:27:01,120
Speaker 1: Like they's gonna be here the monitory.

1841
01:27:01,200 --> 01:27:03,000
Speaker 4: They don't care the dog. I'm gonna tell you something

1842
01:27:03,040 --> 01:27:05,920
Speaker 4: what I notice about white folks. I got a homeboy, right,

1843
01:27:06,439 --> 01:27:08,880
Speaker 4: cool dude. Me and his son played football together. He's

1844
01:27:08,920 --> 01:27:11,680
Speaker 4: a billionaire. Doront flew on his jet with him and

1845
01:27:11,680 --> 01:27:15,679
Speaker 4: everything else like that. Cool dude. He owns the brewery.

1846
01:27:15,800 --> 01:27:17,519
Speaker 4: If you ever seen that brewery, it's on the two

1847
01:27:17,520 --> 01:27:19,720
Speaker 4: team to sixty Freeway. It's like on the two team

1848
01:27:19,760 --> 01:27:23,240
Speaker 4: to six or five. Yeah, the Midder Brewing Company. He

1849
01:27:23,280 --> 01:27:26,040
Speaker 4: owns that land right there, right, And he was saying, yeah,

1850
01:27:26,040 --> 01:27:27,920
Speaker 4: their lease is up. I'm about to you know, I'm

1851
01:27:27,960 --> 01:27:30,559
Speaker 4: about to probably sign them into another seventy five year lease.

1852
01:27:31,080 --> 01:27:33,920
Speaker 4: And this dude like sixty five. Dog, I'm thinking, I'm like, man,

1853
01:27:33,960 --> 01:27:35,760
Speaker 4: you doing that bus. You ain't gonna be He said, no,

1854
01:27:35,920 --> 01:27:39,799
Speaker 4: but my grandchildren be here, my great them folks playing

1855
01:27:39,800 --> 01:27:43,160
Speaker 4: the head dog. They playing We sitting up here thinking

1856
01:27:43,200 --> 01:27:45,760
Speaker 4: about what we go do tomorrow. By the guy, them

1857
01:27:45,840 --> 01:27:48,240
Speaker 4: dudes is playing in thirty forty fifty years ahead. In

1858
01:27:48,280 --> 01:27:51,280
Speaker 4: some cases, Dog and got they step. They're making sure

1859
01:27:51,439 --> 01:27:55,160
Speaker 4: that poverty never touches no part of their family, unless.

1860
01:27:54,840 --> 01:27:58,320
Speaker 6: It's kind of hard for our motherfucker who's struggling every day.

1861
01:27:58,439 --> 01:28:02,760
Speaker 6: On the day today, it's like I might not be

1862
01:28:02,840 --> 01:28:05,400
Speaker 6: here two days from now. But that's what I'm different

1863
01:28:05,479 --> 01:28:08,679
Speaker 6: for a motherfucker who's been handed a billion dollar company

1864
01:28:08,720 --> 01:28:11,479
Speaker 6: from the time he was a fucking toddler or some

1865
01:28:11,560 --> 01:28:14,519
Speaker 6: shit like that. That's the difference in people want you

1866
01:28:14,600 --> 01:28:19,120
Speaker 6: to be able to think on the same aspect, But niggas, shit,

1867
01:28:19,439 --> 01:28:22,479
Speaker 6: I'm struggling to put fucking food on the table.

1868
01:28:22,560 --> 01:28:25,960
Speaker 4: Thing about this dude though, he what's funny is he

1869
01:28:26,600 --> 01:28:29,240
Speaker 4: I think got his ged. He's not no college. He's

1870
01:28:29,280 --> 01:28:31,559
Speaker 4: a dude from New Jersey. That's how I mean him

1871
01:28:31,600 --> 01:28:34,639
Speaker 4: got cool. He just the fear of poverty kept him going.

1872
01:28:34,720 --> 01:28:37,040
Speaker 4: He having to help have somebody to help him out

1873
01:28:37,080 --> 01:28:39,920
Speaker 4: to get into real estate, right, and he owns all

1874
01:28:39,960 --> 01:28:41,960
Speaker 4: his property and stuff now. But I was just looking

1875
01:28:42,000 --> 01:28:44,240
Speaker 4: at the way he maneuvered Dog in that cav That

1876
01:28:44,360 --> 01:28:46,920
Speaker 4: conversation with him kind of changed my perspective on a

1877
01:28:46,920 --> 01:28:47,479
Speaker 4: lot of things.

1878
01:28:47,520 --> 01:28:51,040
Speaker 6: Ain't that crazy how you just said it. His fear

1879
01:28:51,080 --> 01:28:56,240
Speaker 6: of poverty and his ambition. Somebody saw that and they

1880
01:28:56,360 --> 01:28:58,880
Speaker 6: fronted him to be able to do what he do.

1881
01:28:59,360 --> 01:28:59,760
Speaker 4: Fund him.

1882
01:28:59,800 --> 01:29:00,000
Speaker 2: Yep.

1883
01:29:00,240 --> 01:29:02,160
Speaker 6: How mean times a nigga gonna do that for you?

1884
01:29:02,520 --> 01:29:04,280
Speaker 6: Oh man, it never happened. We got a lot of

1885
01:29:04,320 --> 01:29:07,040
Speaker 6: geniuses in the hood. Now, times a nigga gonna see

1886
01:29:07,080 --> 01:29:11,040
Speaker 6: your potential and really go, you know something, I'm finna

1887
01:29:11,080 --> 01:29:13,679
Speaker 6: give you this five million and let you take off

1888
01:29:13,880 --> 01:29:17,920
Speaker 6: because I know twenty years from now you're finna be

1889
01:29:18,040 --> 01:29:21,080
Speaker 6: this motherfucker that We don't get motherfuckers to do like

1890
01:29:21,160 --> 01:29:21,760
Speaker 6: that for us.

1891
01:29:21,840 --> 01:29:25,240
Speaker 5: Oh, No, dog is big because a nigga been conditioned

1892
01:29:25,320 --> 01:29:29,000
Speaker 5: with that, that slave mentality to wear nobody do.

1893
01:29:29,160 --> 01:29:31,400
Speaker 2: You don't want to see the next nigga get a few.

1894
01:29:31,920 --> 01:29:35,880
Speaker 6: Easy did it for y'all. It wasn't no white motherfucking

1895
01:29:36,439 --> 01:29:41,240
Speaker 6: It wasn't Sony or Universal or whatever. Easy said, you

1896
01:29:41,280 --> 01:29:44,559
Speaker 6: know something, you feel me, But how many niggas really

1897
01:29:44,680 --> 01:29:45,519
Speaker 6: go you give me?

1898
01:29:45,800 --> 01:29:47,680
Speaker 1: Are steal your ideas?

1899
01:29:47,840 --> 01:29:48,280
Speaker 4: Cracking?

1900
01:29:48,840 --> 01:29:51,120
Speaker 1: Let me front you this million dollars and let you

1901
01:29:51,160 --> 01:29:51,760
Speaker 1: get it going.

1902
01:29:52,080 --> 01:29:54,840
Speaker 4: Leg. I'm gonna tell you something right now, Dog. And

1903
01:29:55,120 --> 01:29:56,800
Speaker 4: I don't like to brag a lot. Dog.

1904
01:29:56,920 --> 01:29:57,599
Speaker 1: I don't do this.

1905
01:29:57,760 --> 01:29:59,880
Speaker 4: I don't say this nothing to be bragging. Dog. But

1906
01:30:02,640 --> 01:30:09,240
Speaker 4: we gave, we helped launch math off. Who else we

1907
01:30:09,280 --> 01:30:12,000
Speaker 4: don't have. Man, it don't been so many big podcast

1908
01:30:12,160 --> 01:30:14,800
Speaker 4: dog that I initially have my hand in and gave them.

1909
01:30:14,800 --> 01:30:18,720
Speaker 4: They send off and they went on to become successful podcasts.

1910
01:30:18,840 --> 01:30:21,080
Speaker 4: I look at companies, Dogs, some of these guys they

1911
01:30:21,080 --> 01:30:24,160
Speaker 4: gonna get five or six million dollars in funding, twelve

1912
01:30:24,200 --> 01:30:25,840
Speaker 4: for sex sess, give them some money. I was like, Man,

1913
01:30:25,840 --> 01:30:28,040
Speaker 4: these niggas ain't ded half the shit I did, Dog,

1914
01:30:28,439 --> 01:30:30,120
Speaker 4: and they gonna give them some money. Everything I don't

1915
01:30:30,160 --> 01:30:32,120
Speaker 4: did just done been off the monkey help. So you know,

1916
01:30:32,160 --> 01:30:34,280
Speaker 4: like he said, with the shelves and the motherfucking thing,

1917
01:30:34,720 --> 01:30:35,920
Speaker 4: I'm gonna make some shit happen.

1918
01:30:36,000 --> 01:30:36,240
Speaker 2: Dog.

1919
01:30:36,360 --> 01:30:38,439
Speaker 1: We don't get them same opportunities. Dog.

1920
01:30:39,120 --> 01:30:41,360
Speaker 4: So I'm glad to see brothers like you when y'all

1921
01:30:41,360 --> 01:30:43,479
Speaker 4: do get them positioned. Man, y'all do go back and

1922
01:30:43,520 --> 01:30:46,280
Speaker 4: try to lift some brothers up, you know what I mean?

1923
01:30:46,680 --> 01:30:49,280
Speaker 4: And I wish our brothers would appreciate that more when

1924
01:30:49,280 --> 01:30:52,679
Speaker 4: they do get that lift up off the ground. Because

1925
01:30:53,680 --> 01:30:55,439
Speaker 4: you could pick any number of people to get that.

1926
01:30:55,680 --> 01:30:57,920
Speaker 4: They've been chosen though, so they got to represent so

1927
01:30:58,000 --> 01:30:59,599
Speaker 4: they can go back and get somebody, because you can't

1928
01:30:59,600 --> 01:31:02,240
Speaker 4: even drag everybody in the building by yourself. But if

1929
01:31:02,280 --> 01:31:04,599
Speaker 4: you get if you pull ten people up and they

1930
01:31:04,640 --> 01:31:06,880
Speaker 4: go get another ten people and eventually everybody go get

1931
01:31:06,960 --> 01:31:09,840
Speaker 4: up there, right, you know what I'm saying. You know

1932
01:31:09,840 --> 01:31:11,720
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. So what you got, what you got

1933
01:31:11,760 --> 01:31:12,320
Speaker 4: cracking out?

1934
01:31:12,360 --> 01:31:12,559
Speaker 2: Dog?

1935
01:31:12,760 --> 01:31:14,280
Speaker 4: What you got you about to blast off with?

1936
01:31:14,640 --> 01:31:17,200
Speaker 5: I got a little free mixtape, man. I just you know,

1937
01:31:17,600 --> 01:31:21,160
Speaker 5: was exercising my lyrical skills a little bit and uh

1938
01:31:21,360 --> 01:31:24,439
Speaker 5: just put out a little mixtape car Too Easy.

1939
01:31:25,160 --> 01:31:27,280
Speaker 2: I mean it's a little mixtape.

1940
01:31:26,680 --> 01:31:31,360
Speaker 5: Of where I took songs that artists been paying homage

1941
01:31:31,360 --> 01:31:34,280
Speaker 5: to bomb Thus in harmony, you know what I mean. So,

1942
01:31:34,360 --> 01:31:36,320
Speaker 5: and it's artists that I would like to work with

1943
01:31:36,439 --> 01:31:38,799
Speaker 5: as well. So what I did was took the songs

1944
01:31:38,800 --> 01:31:42,519
Speaker 5: that they took from us, put new verses on they shit, And.

1945
01:31:42,760 --> 01:31:44,120
Speaker 2: That's you know what I'm saying.

1946
01:31:44,200 --> 01:31:47,360
Speaker 5: And just to let people know that you know, I'm

1947
01:31:47,439 --> 01:31:51,840
Speaker 5: still I'm still you know, rapping is is my love,

1948
01:31:52,000 --> 01:31:54,280
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, Like putting them words together,

1949
01:31:54,479 --> 01:31:55,400
Speaker 5: telling the story.

1950
01:31:56,080 --> 01:31:57,320
Speaker 2: I love that, you know what I mean.

1951
01:31:57,360 --> 01:32:00,400
Speaker 5: So I got the mixtape, man, and that's something for

1952
01:32:00,520 --> 01:32:04,080
Speaker 5: free from my fans. You can download that on live

1953
01:32:04,160 --> 01:32:05,360
Speaker 5: mixtapes dot.

1954
01:32:05,160 --> 01:32:06,519
Speaker 2: Com, you know what I mean.

1955
01:32:06,560 --> 01:32:09,960
Speaker 5: But I got an album coming out too, called Hypnotic Rhythms.

1956
01:32:10,439 --> 01:32:11,040
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

1957
01:32:11,160 --> 01:32:15,920
Speaker 5: So Hypnotic Rhythms. My first single was called Pillar, and

1958
01:32:15,960 --> 01:32:19,080
Speaker 5: that'll be out later this summer, you know what I'm saying.

1959
01:32:19,120 --> 01:32:23,400
Speaker 5: So I'm doing that, man, Harmony House Entertainment. My girl

1960
01:32:23,479 --> 01:32:26,479
Speaker 5: got her podcast that's about to come out called Tipping

1961
01:32:26,560 --> 01:32:30,759
Speaker 5: with Tiny. That's hard, Yeah, Tipping with Tiny and Minds

1962
01:32:30,880 --> 01:32:33,680
Speaker 5: is lounging with Lazy. So we do a little partnership

1963
01:32:33,720 --> 01:32:37,080
Speaker 5: with that and kind of intertwined with each other sometimes

1964
01:32:37,120 --> 01:32:37,519
Speaker 5: on that.

1965
01:32:37,640 --> 01:32:41,120
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. Man, My kids, you know,

1966
01:32:41,200 --> 01:32:43,599
Speaker 2: we talked about the kids. They doing music.

1967
01:32:43,720 --> 01:32:46,760
Speaker 5: You know, I'm just getting ready for this thirty year

1968
01:32:46,960 --> 01:32:51,000
Speaker 5: anniversary for Bone Thugs and Harmony ninety fours, the thirtieth year.

1969
01:32:51,400 --> 01:32:53,920
Speaker 4: Man, we need that movie, doog. We need a Bone

1970
01:32:53,960 --> 01:32:56,400
Speaker 4: Thugs movie, though, we need to actually MC eight fucking

1971
01:32:56,400 --> 01:32:59,120
Speaker 4: movie too though. It's so many incredible stories and hip

1972
01:32:59,120 --> 01:33:00,040
Speaker 4: hop dog that can.

1973
01:32:59,880 --> 01:33:03,960
Speaker 2: Be man, man, it'll be an honor eight n R movie.

1974
01:33:04,040 --> 01:33:07,120
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, definitely, I'm with the part definitely, you know

1975
01:33:07,160 --> 01:33:10,080
Speaker 6: what I'm saying. So play me a little easy or something.

1976
01:33:10,200 --> 01:33:10,960
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying.

1977
01:33:12,040 --> 01:33:14,519
Speaker 5: You're doing the bio pic, you know, and our movie

1978
01:33:14,600 --> 01:33:19,600
Speaker 5: is basically an aliu from the NWA movie is.

1979
01:33:19,640 --> 01:33:21,959
Speaker 4: One being is one in production right now.

1980
01:33:23,240 --> 01:33:26,200
Speaker 2: Not in production, but the writing part of.

1981
01:33:26,600 --> 01:33:28,599
Speaker 1: Oh that's dope, man, that's cracking.

1982
01:33:28,760 --> 01:33:32,800
Speaker 5: So the idea of the bio pick it pick up

1983
01:33:32,880 --> 01:33:34,840
Speaker 5: where NWA left off at.

1984
01:33:34,920 --> 01:33:35,599
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

1985
01:33:35,600 --> 01:33:41,000
Speaker 5: If you all remember in the movie, DJ Yeller was

1986
01:33:41,080 --> 01:33:44,839
Speaker 5: giving Easy the mixtape he was giving him East nineteen

1987
01:33:44,920 --> 01:33:49,200
Speaker 5: ninety ninety times. He died before he heard the finished take.

1988
01:33:50,000 --> 01:33:54,240
Speaker 5: So at the end of that movie, when he passed away,

1989
01:33:54,920 --> 01:33:59,360
Speaker 5: he was let East nineteen ninety nine Eternal album was

1990
01:33:59,400 --> 01:34:02,719
Speaker 5: sitting right there on on his desk that he never

1991
01:34:02,800 --> 01:34:05,240
Speaker 5: got to hear, you know what I'm saying. So that's

1992
01:34:05,439 --> 01:34:07,720
Speaker 5: how we pick it up. That's that's the alley oop.

1993
01:34:07,800 --> 01:34:10,320
Speaker 5: I feel like n W a through us on the

1994
01:34:10,360 --> 01:34:11,080
Speaker 5: movie side.

1995
01:34:11,160 --> 01:34:14,640
Speaker 4: You know that's hard that their attention to detail was

1996
01:34:14,680 --> 01:34:19,360
Speaker 4: like that, dog exactly, that's hard. Dog. I really hope, man,

1997
01:34:19,680 --> 01:34:22,400
Speaker 4: because I know that's gonna be a massive movie. Y'all

1998
01:34:22,400 --> 01:34:25,599
Speaker 4: got a fan based that's incredible, Dog, y'all fan based,

1999
01:34:25,600 --> 01:34:28,360
Speaker 4: and y'all fans them type of fans that they'll fight for, y'all.

2000
01:34:28,439 --> 01:34:31,920
Speaker 5: Definitely, Man, I definitely appreciate our fans, man.

2001
01:34:32,000 --> 01:34:34,680
Speaker 2: You know, the diversity of our fans. It ain't just

2002
01:34:34,800 --> 01:34:35,680
Speaker 2: like a.

2003
01:34:35,600 --> 01:34:40,679
Speaker 5: Lot of hip hop artists like it be like black

2004
01:34:40,880 --> 01:34:47,439
Speaker 5: or are we got diverse Mexicans love bone thugs and

2005
01:34:47,960 --> 01:34:53,880
Speaker 5: white people love Hispanics, uh, man, Asians like our crowd

2006
01:34:53,880 --> 01:34:57,200
Speaker 5: be so diverse man. And and like you said, they

2007
01:34:57,240 --> 01:34:59,880
Speaker 5: gung hop for so we appreciate.

2008
01:34:59,360 --> 01:35:00,000
Speaker 1: That, y'all.

2009
01:35:00,080 --> 01:35:04,760
Speaker 6: Y'all, y'all hip hop contribution was definitely not stereotyped to

2010
01:35:04,920 --> 01:35:10,040
Speaker 6: one particular crowd. You can say like y'all was one

2011
01:35:10,080 --> 01:35:14,920
Speaker 6: of them international hip hop artists, you feel me? So yeah,

2012
01:35:14,960 --> 01:35:17,439
Speaker 6: they have to be able to respect that, yeah, dog.

2013
01:35:17,760 --> 01:35:19,719
Speaker 6: You know what one more things, A lot of niggas

2014
01:35:19,720 --> 01:35:23,400
Speaker 6: who don't make it that far hip hop game is concerned.

2015
01:35:24,040 --> 01:35:24,920
Speaker 1: Know a lot of them.

2016
01:35:25,040 --> 01:35:29,400
Speaker 6: You know that niggas who were left underground so to speak.

2017
01:35:29,760 --> 01:35:32,760
Speaker 6: So to be able to come from just hip hop

2018
01:35:32,800 --> 01:35:34,880
Speaker 6: period and then be able to make it to like

2019
01:35:34,960 --> 01:35:38,320
Speaker 6: you said, y'all have probably been some everywhere all around

2020
01:35:38,400 --> 01:35:39,960
Speaker 6: the world with this hip hop shit.

2021
01:35:41,200 --> 01:35:44,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, coming from Cleveland, you know.

2022
01:35:44,400 --> 01:35:46,679
Speaker 4: You's some crazy shit. Though you think about it, y'all

2023
01:35:46,680 --> 01:35:52,320
Speaker 4: work with Easy, Tupac and Biggie like those are legend.

2024
01:35:52,439 --> 01:35:55,160
Speaker 4: Those are like they immortalized now. Dog, you know, risk

2025
01:35:55,200 --> 01:35:58,160
Speaker 4: and peace, but y'all work with all of them. Dog,

2026
01:35:59,840 --> 01:36:01,400
Speaker 4: do you ever just sit up in bed at night

2027
01:36:01,400 --> 01:36:04,880
Speaker 4: and be like, can't tell me nigga nigga?

2028
01:36:05,000 --> 01:36:07,599
Speaker 5: And it was you know that's that's that's that's part

2029
01:36:07,640 --> 01:36:11,040
Speaker 5: of the seal, the deal of the legacy, definitely, you

2030
01:36:11,040 --> 01:36:13,679
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, to have like and for them

2031
01:36:13,680 --> 01:36:16,080
Speaker 5: to be beefing the where they were, you know what

2032
01:36:16,080 --> 01:36:17,000
Speaker 5: I mean, For us.

2033
01:36:16,840 --> 01:36:21,080
Speaker 2: To not be involved in.

2034
01:36:20,160 --> 01:36:26,040
Speaker 5: The or dependent all that all the problems they was having.

2035
01:36:26,080 --> 01:36:29,160
Speaker 5: It was like being from Cleveland left us mutual right

2036
01:36:29,200 --> 01:36:30,000
Speaker 5: in order to.

2037
01:36:30,800 --> 01:36:34,599
Speaker 6: Man not on leave that ship, y'all. Y'all ship, y'all

2038
01:36:34,600 --> 01:36:38,000
Speaker 6: were protege ades the of the Godfather, you feel me.

2039
01:36:38,600 --> 01:36:42,360
Speaker 1: As far as what we concerned on the West coast.

2040
01:36:42,479 --> 01:36:43,040
Speaker 1: You give me.

2041
01:36:43,240 --> 01:36:47,439
Speaker 6: Everybody has their this is the Godfather or rap or whatever.

2042
01:36:47,479 --> 01:36:49,880
Speaker 6: But as far as we're concerned on the West Coast

2043
01:36:50,240 --> 01:36:53,000
Speaker 6: with our ship, y'all came from the streets.

2044
01:36:53,040 --> 01:36:54,360
Speaker 1: We came for Easy.

2045
01:36:54,400 --> 01:36:59,040
Speaker 6: Eas looked at around the world as that motherfucker man.

2046
01:36:59,280 --> 01:37:03,760
Speaker 6: You feel me like Easy opened the door, not just

2047
01:37:03,800 --> 01:37:06,680
Speaker 6: for for shit. Easy is what made me want of

2048
01:37:06,760 --> 01:37:10,000
Speaker 6: motherfucking god damn. He is what made me go nigga.

2049
01:37:10,040 --> 01:37:13,840
Speaker 6: You could rap about the neighborhood. Oh, I could rap

2050
01:37:13,880 --> 01:37:17,160
Speaker 6: about the one time and selling crack, and I could

2051
01:37:17,240 --> 01:37:18,040
Speaker 6: rap about.

2052
01:37:17,800 --> 01:37:20,200
Speaker 1: Blasting and claiming the hood.

2053
01:37:20,360 --> 01:37:24,040
Speaker 6: Oh my god, you just hope because at that point,

2054
01:37:24,400 --> 01:37:28,120
Speaker 6: even though we were street niggas, it was utfo and

2055
01:37:28,200 --> 01:37:29,759
Speaker 6: it was you know, it was fun.

2056
01:37:31,320 --> 01:37:34,120
Speaker 1: It was even though you are nigga coming from the streets.

2057
01:37:34,160 --> 01:37:37,360
Speaker 6: You like, I don't do no shit like that, man,

2058
01:37:37,439 --> 01:37:40,160
Speaker 6: So what's what's my way in here?

2059
01:37:40,560 --> 01:37:41,240
Speaker 4: Way to wiggle in?

2060
01:37:41,360 --> 01:37:44,280
Speaker 6: When Easy came with boys in the hood like Nigga

2061
01:37:44,439 --> 01:37:48,320
Speaker 6: just nigga six four's and forty ounces and nigga l

2062
01:37:49,000 --> 01:37:52,759
Speaker 6: he opened up a whole fucking world for niggas who

2063
01:37:52,800 --> 01:37:57,400
Speaker 6: who like, I'm not that this is my identity and

2064
01:37:57,600 --> 01:38:00,519
Speaker 6: so he opened that door for to see him. W's

2065
01:38:00,600 --> 01:38:04,599
Speaker 6: for the bones for the above, the laws for the man,

2066
01:38:05,000 --> 01:38:08,160
Speaker 6: a gang of niggas man that street ship for sure.

2067
01:38:08,240 --> 01:38:12,000
Speaker 4: Let me ask you this, Lake, y'all ain't never collaborated

2068
01:38:12,000 --> 01:38:16,040
Speaker 4: with doctor dra Nope, I wonder what ain't happened.

2069
01:38:16,040 --> 01:38:16,639
Speaker 2: Though, I got a.

2070
01:38:16,600 --> 01:38:20,240
Speaker 5: Couple of tracks from Dre that I wasn't never able,

2071
01:38:20,439 --> 01:38:25,559
Speaker 5: we wasn't really able to use. But Drake thing was,

2072
01:38:27,000 --> 01:38:32,400
Speaker 5: when the opportunity was presenting itself, we was internally fucked up,

2073
01:38:33,280 --> 01:38:35,040
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, And that nigga. Dre was like,

2074
01:38:35,080 --> 01:38:37,200
Speaker 5: if I can't have all five of y'all, I ain't

2075
01:38:37,240 --> 01:38:38,120
Speaker 5: fucking with y'all.

2076
01:38:39,360 --> 01:38:42,760
Speaker 2: And that was that. So hopefully one day he'd get it.

2077
01:38:42,800 --> 01:38:46,960
Speaker 5: I know, all of us individually tried to you know,

2078
01:38:47,040 --> 01:38:48,960
Speaker 5: that's Drake who don't want to Dre b.

2079
01:38:49,200 --> 01:38:52,880
Speaker 2: Of course, you know what I'm saying, Like I see it.

2080
01:38:52,960 --> 01:38:54,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, he like, all I.

2081
01:38:54,280 --> 01:38:56,639
Speaker 5: Can't get all that, you know what I mean, because

2082
01:38:56,680 --> 01:38:59,840
Speaker 5: we all we all tried to go individually, but Dre,

2083
01:39:00,479 --> 01:39:02,400
Speaker 5: you know the way the word got back to me,

2084
01:39:02,680 --> 01:39:04,840
Speaker 5: Like Dre said, if he can't have all y'all in,

2085
01:39:05,080 --> 01:39:06,559
Speaker 5: you know, it's it's no point.

2086
01:39:06,720 --> 01:39:08,760
Speaker 4: We gotta make y'all can't make that happen.

2087
01:39:08,520 --> 01:39:11,320
Speaker 2: Though, shiit? What's up? Dre Holler.

2088
01:39:12,600 --> 01:39:14,920
Speaker 6: Gold Ship and we need cracking and we need another

2089
01:39:14,960 --> 01:39:17,320
Speaker 6: Bone album? You know, get it cracking?

2090
01:39:18,400 --> 01:39:21,519
Speaker 5: One call from Dre. Watch how fast all five niggas

2091
01:39:21,560 --> 01:39:22,080
Speaker 5: get together?

2092
01:39:23,080 --> 01:39:24,080
Speaker 1: That would be his story.

2093
01:39:24,720 --> 01:39:26,360
Speaker 4: That would be some cold ship Dog, and it got

2094
01:39:26,439 --> 01:39:28,400
Speaker 4: to happen on that next Bone album, Dog.

2095
01:39:28,280 --> 01:39:30,160
Speaker 2: Man, come on, let's preach on that broom.

2096
01:39:30,200 --> 01:39:32,200
Speaker 4: What's up with the next Bone album? Dog? When is

2097
01:39:32,280 --> 01:39:34,479
Speaker 4: that coming together? Man? We can get just get the

2098
01:39:35,600 --> 01:39:37,880
Speaker 4: one of the greatest hip hop group of all time,

2099
01:39:37,920 --> 01:39:39,120
Speaker 4: the symbol, one of the greats.

2100
01:39:39,120 --> 01:39:40,519
Speaker 2: So the Legacy project.

2101
01:39:40,680 --> 01:39:43,960
Speaker 5: Man, we're talking about the h a double album, a

2102
01:39:44,080 --> 01:39:48,720
Speaker 5: world tour, we're talking about a coffee table book, and

2103
01:39:48,760 --> 01:39:50,880
Speaker 5: we're talking about the bio pic.

2104
01:39:51,360 --> 01:39:52,240
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's cracked.

2105
01:39:52,240 --> 01:39:52,800
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?

2106
01:39:53,040 --> 01:39:57,000
Speaker 5: Four elements, you know what I mean of the world Wind,

2107
01:39:57,160 --> 01:39:58,599
Speaker 5: fire Water.

2108
01:39:58,840 --> 01:40:03,000
Speaker 6: I could definitely say if anybody can pull that ship off, y'all, y'all,

2109
01:40:03,080 --> 01:40:06,160
Speaker 6: that y'all one of them groups? Man, y'all want them

2110
01:40:06,160 --> 01:40:07,360
Speaker 6: international groups?

2111
01:40:07,400 --> 01:40:11,600
Speaker 5: Man, Man, I drop everything I'm doing for an opportunity

2112
01:40:11,640 --> 01:40:14,839
Speaker 5: to work with doctor Dre hell yeah, sure, my niggas

2113
01:40:14,840 --> 01:40:15,400
Speaker 5: feel the same.

2114
01:40:15,479 --> 01:40:18,800
Speaker 6: But you know what those dog, it's a couple of producers.

2115
01:40:18,840 --> 01:40:22,120
Speaker 6: Man always thought Bone would be real beastie on. I

2116
01:40:22,560 --> 01:40:25,360
Speaker 6: still think now y'all should keep I think y'all most

2117
01:40:25,400 --> 01:40:29,439
Speaker 6: impotent incarnation Dog is when y'all were Unique. I think

2118
01:40:29,600 --> 01:40:31,320
Speaker 6: Unique got that ship without.

2119
01:40:31,120 --> 01:40:32,080
Speaker 2: Chemistry right there.

2120
01:40:32,160 --> 01:40:34,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would like to see him somehow be involved.

2121
01:40:34,760 --> 01:40:36,559
Speaker 4: But I would love to see y'all go fuck with

2122
01:40:36,600 --> 01:40:40,400
Speaker 4: the Justice League. You know, people like that Justice League

2123
01:40:40,400 --> 01:40:43,840
Speaker 4: and the Timberlin that stuff would sound crazy. But keep

2124
01:40:43,840 --> 01:40:46,200
Speaker 4: a cat like Unique over that kind of you know,

2125
01:40:47,120 --> 01:40:49,000
Speaker 4: so the form of the all stay the same. You

2126
01:40:49,000 --> 01:40:50,920
Speaker 4: feel what I'm saying. So the saut still there. You

2127
01:40:50,960 --> 01:40:51,639
Speaker 4: feel what I'm saying.

2128
01:40:51,760 --> 01:40:56,040
Speaker 5: Unique Unique would be the overseer of the music period,

2129
01:40:56,160 --> 01:40:58,360
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. But to bring in all

2130
01:40:58,400 --> 01:41:01,200
Speaker 5: those did, man, that's a dream come true. That's the

2131
01:41:01,240 --> 01:41:02,600
Speaker 5: way to close the doe for me.

2132
01:41:02,960 --> 01:41:06,280
Speaker 4: But y'all deserve that dough dog, y'all motherfucking bone thugs harmany.

2133
01:41:06,600 --> 01:41:08,679
Speaker 4: Like I always tell this man one of my things

2134
01:41:08,680 --> 01:41:11,720
Speaker 4: for him, I'm like, man, eight, we need to get

2135
01:41:11,760 --> 01:41:14,920
Speaker 4: you one more major album, my nigga, One more major ones.

2136
01:41:15,000 --> 01:41:17,320
Speaker 4: These ones is dope. He drops some incredible material. But

2137
01:41:17,360 --> 01:41:20,320
Speaker 4: this niggas nastier now than he was when he first

2138
01:41:20,360 --> 01:41:23,320
Speaker 4: came out. You feel what I'm saying, ain't nothing change,

2139
01:41:23,479 --> 01:41:25,840
Speaker 4: you know, win just get better with time exactly.

2140
01:41:25,960 --> 01:41:28,360
Speaker 5: But think about your little brother when you're working on

2141
01:41:28,360 --> 01:41:32,080
Speaker 5: that album. That's that's a bucket list right there too,

2142
01:41:32,200 --> 01:41:32,800
Speaker 5: you know what I mean?

2143
01:41:32,960 --> 01:41:35,960
Speaker 4: Like that, ain't nothing but a conversation dog that.

2144
01:41:36,160 --> 01:41:38,599
Speaker 6: Yeah, this dude, man, I just do it for just

2145
01:41:39,800 --> 01:41:41,720
Speaker 6: I'm just one of them niggas who came into hip

2146
01:41:41,760 --> 01:41:45,400
Speaker 6: hop because I loved it, and I didn't look at

2147
01:41:45,400 --> 01:41:48,240
Speaker 6: it for you know, the accolades and the and the

2148
01:41:48,280 --> 01:41:50,800
Speaker 6: fame and the and the money and all of that.

2149
01:41:51,160 --> 01:41:53,240
Speaker 6: I just wanted to make records, man, you know what

2150
01:41:53,280 --> 01:41:56,720
Speaker 6: I'm saying. I thought I was gonna still be a

2151
01:41:56,760 --> 01:41:59,760
Speaker 6: gang banging, dope dealing nigga on the block. Just I

2152
01:41:59,800 --> 01:42:02,680
Speaker 6: was gonna make records and shit, I never looked at

2153
01:42:02,680 --> 01:42:06,040
Speaker 6: it as being where a nigga has been or where

2154
01:42:06,160 --> 01:42:10,240
Speaker 6: nigga's going to. But you know, we credited. It's been

2155
01:42:10,280 --> 01:42:15,799
Speaker 6: here for fifty years. I came into the game early

2156
01:42:16,439 --> 01:42:18,680
Speaker 6: and it's just been the love of it, you know.

2157
01:42:18,720 --> 01:42:20,800
Speaker 1: What I'm saying. So that's what keep a nigga going.

2158
01:42:21,320 --> 01:42:24,599
Speaker 6: It's not so much as trying to find that next

2159
01:42:24,600 --> 01:42:29,120
Speaker 6: big payday off of hip hop. Is just now with

2160
01:42:29,280 --> 01:42:32,360
Speaker 6: all that niggas have contributed, just to be able to

2161
01:42:32,400 --> 01:42:34,559
Speaker 6: be honored and respected as going.

2162
01:42:36,760 --> 01:42:39,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, that nigga was you feel me? You know?

2163
01:42:39,520 --> 01:42:42,519
Speaker 6: And sometimes, like you said, you see all these lists

2164
01:42:42,920 --> 01:42:46,120
Speaker 6: and you see all these motherfuckers with their opinions about

2165
01:42:46,479 --> 01:42:48,960
Speaker 6: who is the greatest and who is this and who

2166
01:42:49,040 --> 01:42:52,280
Speaker 6: is that? But how can that how official can that

2167
01:42:52,360 --> 01:42:56,559
Speaker 6: shit be? Because my idea of the greatest might not

2168
01:42:56,680 --> 01:42:59,800
Speaker 6: be yours or might not be steals And that's not

2169
01:42:59,880 --> 01:43:01,520
Speaker 6: the discredit to motherfucker.

2170
01:43:01,560 --> 01:43:05,400
Speaker 4: That's what the hell? Y'all? That twenty six, twenty one,

2171
01:43:05,720 --> 01:43:07,280
Speaker 4: twenty one, man, that's way too.

2172
01:43:07,240 --> 01:43:08,640
Speaker 2: All the matter of opinion.

2173
01:43:08,760 --> 01:43:11,599
Speaker 4: But you know what, though, did that come from? Because

2174
01:43:11,640 --> 01:43:13,120
Speaker 4: some of these journalists ain't.

2175
01:43:12,920 --> 01:43:15,920
Speaker 6: Because like Bro, not to cut you off, but who

2176
01:43:16,040 --> 01:43:20,040
Speaker 6: was that number one outcast? And no disrespect an outcast

2177
01:43:20,080 --> 01:43:23,400
Speaker 6: at all? But I listened to more Bone than I

2178
01:43:23,520 --> 01:43:28,519
Speaker 6: listened to outcasts. I mean, that's just no disrespect. I

2179
01:43:28,560 --> 01:43:33,920
Speaker 6: love the outcast, but past a certain era I didn't

2180
01:43:33,960 --> 01:43:38,120
Speaker 6: listen to outcasts anymore because it just wasn't my flow.

2181
01:43:38,479 --> 01:43:41,880
Speaker 6: You take their first motherfucking album, banged it all day

2182
01:43:42,120 --> 01:43:42,599
Speaker 6: like it was.

2183
01:43:42,680 --> 01:43:43,240
Speaker 1: You get me.

2184
01:43:43,720 --> 01:43:47,559
Speaker 6: But if you want to compare that to the speaker box,

2185
01:43:47,880 --> 01:43:50,719
Speaker 6: you know record, I really didn't bang that as much,

2186
01:43:51,200 --> 01:43:53,600
Speaker 6: but you get me. You want to compare that to

2187
01:43:53,720 --> 01:43:57,559
Speaker 6: Bone does in harmony. I banged every each nineteen ninety nine,

2188
01:43:57,800 --> 01:43:59,720
Speaker 6: and I banged out that month for the war out

2189
01:43:59,800 --> 01:44:01,840
Speaker 6: and my mother, we're so cold as my kids is

2190
01:44:01,840 --> 01:44:04,360
Speaker 6: getting hit to that now man. My son to play ball,

2191
01:44:05,240 --> 01:44:07,559
Speaker 6: and my son is the fireman. Man, my oldest son.

2192
01:44:08,360 --> 01:44:10,679
Speaker 6: They come playing me some of your stuff sometimes, like Dad,

2193
01:44:10,680 --> 01:44:14,160
Speaker 6: what you know about this? I'm like, boy, shit down someone.

2194
01:44:14,320 --> 01:44:18,680
Speaker 6: I think the younger generation is starting to maybe appreciate

2195
01:44:19,439 --> 01:44:24,640
Speaker 6: some of the beginnings of hip hop. You hear me,

2196
01:44:24,920 --> 01:44:27,000
Speaker 6: because I couldn't get my son to listen to shit

2197
01:44:27,120 --> 01:44:29,639
Speaker 6: that we played. But just like you said, he'll come

2198
01:44:29,680 --> 01:44:32,240
Speaker 6: in there and play some knives, he'll play some biggie,

2199
01:44:32,320 --> 01:44:35,400
Speaker 6: he'll play some of my ship. You know, I guess

2200
01:44:35,439 --> 01:44:38,320
Speaker 6: because sometimes the motherfucker need to be refreshed and they

2201
01:44:38,600 --> 01:44:43,320
Speaker 6: years need to hear you quality. Chris Love DJ Quick

2202
01:44:43,400 --> 01:44:46,920
Speaker 6: though like his music like Quick said, I like Quick

2203
01:44:46,960 --> 01:44:49,759
Speaker 6: got the beats or talk about Quicks beats and stuff.

2204
01:44:49,760 --> 01:44:52,439
Speaker 6: So he getting hip, but you gotta remember for them,

2205
01:44:52,520 --> 01:44:55,120
Speaker 6: that's like us listening to our appearance records, like when

2206
01:44:55,120 --> 01:44:57,320
Speaker 6: my mama played Curtis Mayfield in the House.

2207
01:44:57,439 --> 01:45:01,000
Speaker 4: Al Green. I grew up loving at MU two and

2208
01:45:01,120 --> 01:45:06,479
Speaker 4: now I probably listened to fifty to fifty nineties hip hop, nineties,

2209
01:45:06,479 --> 01:45:08,720
Speaker 4: early two thousands hip hop, and more Al Green and

2210
01:45:08,760 --> 01:45:10,120
Speaker 4: more oldies than anything else.

2211
01:45:10,880 --> 01:45:13,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, me too, I listened to the oldies too. And

2212
01:45:13,479 --> 01:45:15,360
Speaker 5: just for the record, if I was making the list

2213
01:45:15,400 --> 01:45:19,000
Speaker 5: here to be, run DMC would probably be the first

2214
01:45:19,000 --> 01:45:19,800
Speaker 5: one on my list.

2215
01:45:19,880 --> 01:45:22,439
Speaker 4: I mean you were just saying that yesterday. You know what,

2216
01:45:22,479 --> 01:45:25,400
Speaker 4: bro I was arguing with the Glasses the other day

2217
01:45:25,400 --> 01:45:28,080
Speaker 4: because Glasses a baby, you know he you know, he

2218
01:45:28,120 --> 01:45:29,800
Speaker 4: a grown man, but he a baby in his hip

2219
01:45:29,840 --> 01:45:33,160
Speaker 4: hop stuff. Right. He was trying to argue me that

2220
01:45:34,040 --> 01:45:36,599
Speaker 4: l L was way more of a fact than run DMC.

2221
01:45:36,760 --> 01:45:38,760
Speaker 4: I said, bro l L was the man, but he

2222
01:45:38,800 --> 01:45:41,240
Speaker 4: didn't come to the man until after run DMC had

2223
01:45:41,560 --> 01:45:44,559
Speaker 4: left the throne. Almost then. Was the first cast that

2224
01:45:44,600 --> 01:45:46,599
Speaker 4: had a shoe deal dog. They were the first ones

2225
01:45:46,640 --> 01:45:49,200
Speaker 4: that had Adidas Deal Dog. They were the first ones.

2226
01:45:49,520 --> 01:45:52,880
Speaker 4: They dominated MTV when MTV first came out. That Walked

2227
01:45:52,880 --> 01:45:55,000
Speaker 4: This Way record was probably one of the biggest records,

2228
01:45:55,200 --> 01:45:57,160
Speaker 4: was the biggest look for hip hop at that time,

2229
01:45:57,200 --> 01:45:59,920
Speaker 4: and had that record not been made, hip hop probably

2230
01:46:00,000 --> 01:46:02,120
Speaker 4: wouldn't win as far as it did because to introduced

2231
01:46:02,160 --> 01:46:03,639
Speaker 4: hip hop to mainstream America.

2232
01:46:04,360 --> 01:46:07,000
Speaker 5: Glass is my bro too, but I would tell him

2233
01:46:07,200 --> 01:46:14,360
Speaker 5: watch Crush Groove. It was just saying run DMC. Them

2234
01:46:14,520 --> 01:46:17,960
Speaker 5: was demanded. They was headlining back then. And then LLLL

2235
01:46:18,120 --> 01:46:21,599
Speaker 5: had to come in with the little radio Fox, remember

2236
01:46:21,640 --> 01:46:22,920
Speaker 5: that ship Fox.

2237
01:46:22,920 --> 01:46:24,280
Speaker 2: He had to. He had to.

2238
01:46:24,880 --> 01:46:27,800
Speaker 1: That's how russelling them found ll and signed them to death.

2239
01:46:28,120 --> 01:46:30,559
Speaker 2: He had the audition for his that.

2240
01:46:30,640 --> 01:46:35,240
Speaker 6: Was basically like his little uh his promo. The Beastie

2241
01:46:35,240 --> 01:46:37,360
Speaker 6: Boys was in there signing him to he had I

2242
01:46:37,520 --> 01:46:40,599
Speaker 6: needed to beat out. Yeah. They figured, man, what better

2243
01:46:40,640 --> 01:46:43,120
Speaker 6: way than to promote our first fucking artists.

2244
01:46:43,640 --> 01:46:46,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, put him in the fucking movie. It was brilliant.

2245
01:46:46,960 --> 01:46:52,360
Speaker 6: But run DMC, like, you gonna get the argument because

2246
01:46:52,360 --> 01:46:56,280
Speaker 6: it's fifty years and you know nowadays they got so

2247
01:46:56,560 --> 01:46:59,599
Speaker 6: many You get me. There's so many groups and there's

2248
01:46:59,640 --> 01:47:02,640
Speaker 6: so many But I think you have to give it

2249
01:47:02,680 --> 01:47:08,960
Speaker 6: to run DMC because it's like they they they show

2250
01:47:09,120 --> 01:47:13,960
Speaker 6: the motherfucker as far as a group is concerned, how

2251
01:47:14,040 --> 01:47:16,479
Speaker 6: you really can make it, and they made use the

2252
01:47:16,560 --> 01:47:21,200
Speaker 6: first tough times of him. Hell yeah, what motherfuckers was

2253
01:47:21,360 --> 01:47:24,280
Speaker 6: like hip hop is this way.

2254
01:47:24,360 --> 01:47:27,040
Speaker 2: They only played that ship on Saturdays.

2255
01:47:27,280 --> 01:47:31,479
Speaker 6: And they were able to break down the barriers of

2256
01:47:31,640 --> 01:47:38,360
Speaker 6: being able for four niggas like Outcasts and Wou Tang

2257
01:47:38,560 --> 01:47:42,280
Speaker 6: and comptence most wanted in n w A. You get

2258
01:47:42,320 --> 01:47:47,040
Speaker 6: me without them setting the motherfucking path and kicking down

2259
01:47:47,080 --> 01:47:53,320
Speaker 6: the doors of the stereotype of nigga music and HEU motherfuckers.

2260
01:47:53,360 --> 01:47:55,760
Speaker 4: You gotta understand where hip hop was at the time,

2261
01:47:56,000 --> 01:47:59,160
Speaker 4: Like I don't think n w A got rated nowhere

2262
01:47:59,160 --> 01:48:01,679
Speaker 4: as high as they should Dog because they did.

2263
01:48:01,800 --> 01:48:02,960
Speaker 2: Man that they did.

2264
01:48:03,120 --> 01:48:06,080
Speaker 4: You know, the run n w A down as low

2265
01:48:06,120 --> 01:48:09,320
Speaker 4: as they did Dog was almost like disrespectful because to me,

2266
01:48:10,120 --> 01:48:12,639
Speaker 4: if I'm gonna put the top five together, I'm always

2267
01:48:12,640 --> 01:48:15,679
Speaker 4: tell people it don't matter where you number that because

2268
01:48:15,720 --> 01:48:17,400
Speaker 4: I can't say one is great than the other. But

2269
01:48:18,280 --> 01:48:20,640
Speaker 4: you have to have in your top ten. Man, if

2270
01:48:20,680 --> 01:48:27,040
Speaker 4: you don't have motherfucking n w A motherfucking E P

2271
01:48:27,280 --> 01:48:33,360
Speaker 4: M DR. Motherfucking just all those pivotal groups, many boys,

2272
01:48:33,960 --> 01:48:36,439
Speaker 4: all these people, Dog, because those people are the reason

2273
01:48:36,479 --> 01:48:38,840
Speaker 4: for the season. You can't have fucking C and D

2274
01:48:38,920 --> 01:48:39,679
Speaker 4: before A and B.

2275
01:48:39,680 --> 01:48:39,840
Speaker 2: Bro.

2276
01:48:41,040 --> 01:48:43,880
Speaker 5: Well, you know, like them lists that ain't nothing but

2277
01:48:43,960 --> 01:48:45,040
Speaker 5: a list, man, Like.

2278
01:48:46,640 --> 01:48:50,200
Speaker 4: Yes, run DMC, motherfucking thing, you know, even the Wu

2279
01:48:50,280 --> 01:48:52,720
Speaker 4: Tang clan. But to me, Bone is worthy of that

2280
01:48:52,840 --> 01:48:58,320
Speaker 4: top ten consideration because after you get past all of them, right,

2281
01:48:58,640 --> 01:49:00,800
Speaker 4: run DMCs and all them things, you come up into

2282
01:49:00,840 --> 01:49:04,920
Speaker 4: that early late nineties, Dog, you gotta put Bone there

2283
01:49:04,960 --> 01:49:07,160
Speaker 4: because that was like the next evolution of hip hop

2284
01:49:07,760 --> 01:49:10,320
Speaker 4: because it brought a new flow in. Wasn't nobody everything

2285
01:49:10,600 --> 01:49:13,120
Speaker 4: was margs and the march and then the ben the

2286
01:49:13,200 --> 01:49:15,120
Speaker 4: thing the same with them that came to say that

2287
01:49:15,360 --> 01:49:19,559
Speaker 4: the brother y'all came with them, you know what I'm saying.

2288
01:49:19,920 --> 01:49:22,639
Speaker 4: And it was so fresh, but you understood everything y'all

2289
01:49:22,720 --> 01:49:25,360
Speaker 4: was saying. And that ship was so dope, dog, and

2290
01:49:25,360 --> 01:49:28,280
Speaker 4: the music was melodic, you almost smoke you be right

2291
01:49:28,320 --> 01:49:29,080
Speaker 4: down the street your light.

2292
01:49:30,360 --> 01:49:33,080
Speaker 5: Well, all I gotta say, man, is you know we

2293
01:49:33,120 --> 01:49:36,880
Speaker 5: ain't done yet. So you know they could they can,

2294
01:49:37,000 --> 01:49:41,799
Speaker 5: they can reserve their opinions for when we're done, because

2295
01:49:42,360 --> 01:49:44,960
Speaker 5: you know, to see a list like that make me

2296
01:49:45,040 --> 01:49:47,559
Speaker 5: pick up the phone and call my brothers, like, y'all,

2297
01:49:48,000 --> 01:49:51,040
Speaker 5: y'all want to show these niggas who do what you

2298
01:49:51,120 --> 01:49:51,719
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying.

2299
01:49:51,760 --> 01:49:54,879
Speaker 2: So we ain't done so they and it really don't.

2300
01:49:54,720 --> 01:49:58,280
Speaker 5: Matter, man, I've been able to take care of my

2301
01:49:58,400 --> 01:49:59,960
Speaker 5: family off this whole.

2302
01:50:00,080 --> 01:50:03,000
Speaker 6: I say that about all the times I think about

2303
01:50:03,040 --> 01:50:06,360
Speaker 6: I got fucked and money stolen and all that shit,

2304
01:50:06,720 --> 01:50:08,320
Speaker 6: and at the end of the day, I go, you

2305
01:50:08,400 --> 01:50:14,920
Speaker 6: know something, my son going to college. I'm still able

2306
01:50:14,960 --> 01:50:18,200
Speaker 6: to wake up every morning and do something that you know,

2307
01:50:18,960 --> 01:50:22,800
Speaker 6: you don't regret as far as God damn, I gotta

2308
01:50:22,840 --> 01:50:25,439
Speaker 6: get up today and I gotta you feel me. There's

2309
01:50:25,479 --> 01:50:30,120
Speaker 6: a lot of people who where it's nothing against the

2310
01:50:30,360 --> 01:50:34,000
Speaker 6: average motherfucker, there's a lot of motherfuckers who you know,

2311
01:50:34,040 --> 01:50:35,920
Speaker 6: it's a lot of people who have to get up

2312
01:50:35,960 --> 01:50:37,080
Speaker 6: and go through that shill.

2313
01:50:37,240 --> 01:50:37,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, we blessed.

2314
01:50:38,840 --> 01:50:41,200
Speaker 6: So to be blessed to be able to do something

2315
01:50:41,240 --> 01:50:46,040
Speaker 6: that you enjoy and and you know, you get to

2316
01:50:46,280 --> 01:50:49,559
Speaker 6: go on trips and you get to meet other people,

2317
01:50:49,680 --> 01:50:52,680
Speaker 6: and you know, the perks of comes with being an

2318
01:50:52,880 --> 01:50:56,679
Speaker 6: entertainer sometimes and you know you wouldn't traded for nothing.

2319
01:50:56,800 --> 01:51:00,240
Speaker 6: So we go through the roller coaster rides and sometimes

2320
01:51:00,280 --> 01:51:04,640
Speaker 6: to disrespect and sometimes not feeling like motherfuckers, give us

2321
01:51:04,680 --> 01:51:07,559
Speaker 6: all props for all what we have done for fucking

2322
01:51:07,640 --> 01:51:09,600
Speaker 6: hip hop. But at the end of the day, you go,

2323
01:51:09,760 --> 01:51:12,080
Speaker 6: so I go, you know what, so what right?

2324
01:51:12,840 --> 01:51:13,639
Speaker 2: It's a blessing.

2325
01:51:13,760 --> 01:51:17,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm good, you feel me, I'm good, And none

2326
01:51:17,280 --> 01:51:18,120
Speaker 6: of that shit matters.

2327
01:51:18,120 --> 01:51:19,719
Speaker 4: An what they need to do, they need is start

2328
01:51:19,800 --> 01:51:22,720
Speaker 4: coming to the people really in the coach and asking

2329
01:51:22,760 --> 01:51:25,519
Speaker 4: about them. List cause to me, it would be like

2330
01:51:25,680 --> 01:51:29,080
Speaker 4: somebody coming to me asking me to make to create

2331
01:51:29,120 --> 01:51:31,760
Speaker 4: the top one hundred oldies of all time. I'm gonna

2332
01:51:31,760 --> 01:51:33,720
Speaker 4: feel like, in a way, I'm not qualified. I'm gonna

2333
01:51:33,720 --> 01:51:37,040
Speaker 4: go talk to my mama, my pops, my uncles and

2334
01:51:37,200 --> 01:51:39,400
Speaker 4: asked them what was going on because I didn't live

2335
01:51:39,400 --> 01:51:41,120
Speaker 4: in that time. So some of these little niggas that

2336
01:51:41,200 --> 01:51:44,480
Speaker 4: might be twenty twenty one, they don't understand the impact

2337
01:51:44,479 --> 01:51:47,559
Speaker 4: that a bone had, or the impact that a Wu

2338
01:51:47,680 --> 01:51:50,280
Speaker 4: Tang or run DMC for that matter, to them, is ancient.

2339
01:51:50,560 --> 01:51:53,160
Speaker 4: And I didn't realize how old hip hop was. The

2340
01:51:53,240 --> 01:51:55,919
Speaker 4: glasses told me one day because we were talking about sampling,

2341
01:51:56,160 --> 01:51:57,960
Speaker 4: and he said, no, big bro, that's too old. You

2342
01:51:58,000 --> 01:52:00,920
Speaker 4: got to go back to warren Z. I said, Warren

2343
01:52:01,000 --> 01:52:02,720
Speaker 4: g and them was just Yetter, that's biting, dog, And

2344
01:52:02,720 --> 01:52:04,400
Speaker 4: I thought about it. I said, that shit was twenty

2345
01:52:04,400 --> 01:52:05,439
Speaker 4: five thirty years ago.

2346
01:52:05,520 --> 01:52:05,760
Speaker 1: Dog.

2347
01:52:06,320 --> 01:52:08,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, we were sampling the ship out of Roger and them,

2348
01:52:09,040 --> 01:52:11,479
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, like it, uh all the

2349
01:52:11,560 --> 01:52:14,880
Speaker 5: funk that shit thirty years later we were sampling them.

2350
01:52:14,960 --> 01:52:17,679
Speaker 5: So and that's why I did the mixtape that I did,

2351
01:52:17,720 --> 01:52:20,720
Speaker 5: because I wanted the new artists to know that we

2352
01:52:20,840 --> 01:52:25,320
Speaker 5: appreciate them, you know, going in the crates and finally.

2353
01:52:25,960 --> 01:52:28,000
Speaker 4: That motherfucker so I could put it in our description.

2354
01:52:28,200 --> 01:52:29,519
Speaker 2: I got you, I got I put the.

2355
01:52:29,520 --> 01:52:31,840
Speaker 4: Links in the description, man, so we don't help you

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Speaker 4: captive here long enough.

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 4: We appreciate y'all hanging out with us once again. Right yeah,

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Speaker 4: and hey, y'all make sure, man, we gonna put the

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Speaker 4: link to that mixtape down there. Man. Make sure y'all

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Speaker 4: go bang that man and go support that and go

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Speaker 4: flood doctor Dre's. I don't know if Trey too rich

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Speaker 4: to fuck with Twitter anything. The staff and ship that

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Speaker 4: so y'all just make sure y'all hit Dre up man

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Speaker 4: telling them we need that bone thud collaboration.

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Speaker 2: Man, Please, do you know what I'm saying?

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Speaker 5: Let him know, Dre. I'm letting you know right now.

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Speaker 5: Min we here, if the opportunity is there, were there?

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Speaker 4: Well? Yeah and we gone. Jill Well, that concludes another

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Speaker 4: episode of The Gainst the Chronicles podcast. Be sure to

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Speaker 4: the front of your screen, subscribe to the show, leave

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Speaker 4: a comment and rating. Executive producers for The Gangst Chronicles

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Speaker 4: podcasts of Norman Steel Aaron m c a. Tyler. Our

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Speaker 4: visual media director is Brian Wyatt, and the audio editors

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Speaker 4: tell It Hayes. The Gainst the Chronicles is a production

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