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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is He's Talking

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Speaker 1: Cowboys training live from the Dallas Cowboys worldwhours at the

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Speaker 1: Star in Frisilo to the Li's got back today and

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Speaker 1: now your hosts Isaiah stand Back, Heck Ma Harrison, Rob Phillips,

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Speaker 1: and Kyle Yeoman's it's talking Cowboys here on a Thursday morning,

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Speaker 1: as we are back, and so is NFL football. It's

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Speaker 1: Christmas for NFL as the long weighted off season is

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Speaker 1: now officially over. There's football on the television screens tonight

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Speaker 1: as the Texans and Chiefs hit up on NBC. But

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Speaker 1: gotta wait a little bit longer for the Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: We've got three days until kick off on Sunday Night

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Speaker 1: football as the Cowboys travel to Los Angeles and we

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Speaker 1: are Talking Cowboys. It's Week one, Episode three. Glad you're

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Speaker 1: with us here on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Kyle Yeoman's

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Speaker 1: alongside HECKM. Harrison, Isaiah Standback in the Great Cowboys Insider,

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Speaker 1: mister Rob Phillips and boys, It's it is. It does

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Speaker 1: feels like Christmas. That's exactly what it is. I feel

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Speaker 1: like we've said that a lot. To say it with

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Speaker 1: your chest lately. Yesterday I was doing the wide receivers

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Speaker 1: to pay and today it's just because we're excited about

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Speaker 1: football and it's here. It had a lot of question

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Speaker 1: marks throughout the offseason, but but Rob, it's finally here

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Speaker 1: and we get to actually see the NFL season play out. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and we get to see we get to see the

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Speaker 1: defending champs tonight Sunday night. We get to see what's

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Speaker 1: developing into a pretty good rivalry in the NFC. And

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Speaker 1: I think these teams are similar in some in some

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Speaker 1: ways they've made changes in the offseason, the Rams and Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: And we're gonna get into that over the next what

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Speaker 1: forty five minutes. There's plenty to discuss, gentlemen. Heckma, it

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Speaker 1: is football Day in America. Thank you, lord. Thank It

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Speaker 1: gets at this point, man, and it's just it just

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Speaker 1: feels good. I'm man, I got my popcorn ready, all

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Speaker 1: just be talking about real, actual football player. So your way,

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Speaker 1: you hold up. You're a popcorn guy. You're not like

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Speaker 1: a chips and dip kind of guy. You actually go

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Speaker 1: do all of that, man, pretzels. This is whatell I

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Speaker 1: have to do. Man, Isaiah, I feel like you're a guy.

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Speaker 1: You just want to be You just want to be

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Speaker 1: different from everybody. Right. You know what all I do

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Speaker 1: is drink water because my body is my temple. Get

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Speaker 1: ready for the days, No, man, I'm ready. I'm ready

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Speaker 1: for some football. Man. I've been waiting to see some

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Speaker 1: guys run around and hit each other for a long time.

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Speaker 1: Twenty twenty has been a heck of a year for

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Speaker 1: absolutely everybody on this podcast, everybody that's listening right now.

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Speaker 1: So I think that we are all ready to free

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Speaker 1: our minds of some of the stress and all the

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Speaker 1: you know, all the division that we've had in this country.

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Speaker 1: We really want to just see Arthur and just be

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Speaker 1: able to cheer for opposing teams and just watch some

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Speaker 1: I'm really looking forward to the kickoff tonight and obviously

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Speaker 1: looking forward to the NFC battle that we're about to

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Speaker 1: talk about for the next forty three minutes. Now, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're darn right. We're we are going to talk about

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Speaker 1: that battle. But before we get into some of the

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Speaker 1: Rams defense, which I really do think could be the

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Speaker 1: looking through this injury report and Rob, you were a

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Speaker 1: a real life injury report that was sent out by

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys. How about that about some real clarity, actually

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Speaker 1: finally clarity, especially in Amari Cooper's case. Rob, where he

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Speaker 1: pretty clean. I think there were three other guys on it.

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Speaker 1: Isaiah's talked about it. For those soft tissue injuries, man,

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Speaker 1: you know, the soft tissue injuries, and we're seeing it

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Speaker 1: And now all of a sudden, now I'm a sixty

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Speaker 1: on Talking Cowboys. Kyle Yeoman's Isaiah stand back, Rob Phillips,

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Speaker 1: and the great Heckma Harrison here for you again here

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Speaker 1: on this Thursday, every weekday at nine thirty. It's great,

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Speaker 1: just kind of getting into a groove with you guys

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Speaker 1: assuming football season every single day. Along the way, we

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Speaker 1: get to make fun of Heckma for comparing Amari Cooper

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Speaker 1: and tarall Owens, get to make fun of Isaiah it

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Speaker 1: was fun during the break, and then we get to

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Speaker 1: make fun of Isaiah for three receivers better than the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys wide receivers. We haven't made fun of Rob yet

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Speaker 1: because Rob doesn't make any bad points really honestly, So

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Speaker 1: we'll find one along the way that way we can

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Speaker 1: get Rob in the mix as well. We'll get there.

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Speaker 1: We'll get there. At some point. I wanted to kind

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Speaker 1: of bring up the front seven. We just spent that

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Speaker 1: last segment talking about the wide receiver and how they

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Speaker 1: matched up with the secondary of the Rams, which I

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Speaker 1: think is going to be a game changer of just

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Speaker 1: how much this passing game is going to have success.

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Speaker 1: Dak only had two hundred and twelve yards in that

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Speaker 1: Week fifteen win last year, and the reason why because

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys just dominated up front. Rob mentioned it earlier,

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Speaker 1: talked about how Ezekiel Elliott and Tony Pollard each had

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Speaker 1: one hundred plus yards. They were dominant on the ground

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Speaker 1: all game long, and I really think we could see

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Speaker 1: that again now. I know the question marks are still

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Speaker 1: on the offensive line for the Dallas Cowboys. You got

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Speaker 1: Lyl Collins on ir Tyren Smith has dealed with has

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Speaker 1: been dealing with a couple of ailments, same thing with

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Speaker 1: Connor Williams. And you're replacing Travis Frederick. No more Travis Frederick.

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Speaker 1: Instead you have Joe Looney. But Rob, this is a

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Speaker 1: matchup that seems favorable for the Cowboys heading into Sunday,

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Speaker 1: doesn't it. I would have said. I would have said

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Speaker 1: that until I saw that ESPN story that said that

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Speaker 1: Aaron Donald was just an average, just an average run defender. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: a fact. Why the guy, the guy who wrote that story,

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Speaker 1: is he an Eagles fan or something else? Is he

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Speaker 1: just trying to Is he just trying to hype up

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Speaker 1: number ninety nine on the other team, because I don't

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Speaker 1: I don't see that. I know you guys don't see that.

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Speaker 1: Zack Martin doesn't see that. He talked about Donald yesterday

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Speaker 1: on a call. And he is as complete a defensive

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Speaker 1: player as I don't know, as I've ever ever seen,

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Speaker 1: and I think, uh he anchors them both in the

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Speaker 1: in the past rush against the run as well. I

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Speaker 1: think the difference Kyle last year was the Rams. They

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Speaker 1: just didn't tackle well. They were They were sloppy in

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Speaker 1: that game and and missed some opportunities. And I think

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Speaker 1: that that's gotten away from the team that went to

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl two years ago. That usually is a

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Speaker 1: very fundamental team with Wade Phillips, and they've just got

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Speaker 1: to get back to that. But they do have some

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Speaker 1: changes in their front seven. Yeah, nineteenth, nineteenth ranked rushing

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Speaker 1: defense last year and I think that's probably what costs

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Speaker 1: Weighed his job as well. But let's get down to it.

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Speaker 1: The fact that they lost Dante Fowler and also Corey Littleton,

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be quite significant for this team. Those are

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Speaker 1: guys where Littleton was a dog last year. A lot

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Speaker 1: of tackles for him, and also Dante Fowler off the edge.

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Speaker 1: But Brockers has from LSU mountain of a man, has

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Speaker 1: been great with number ninety nine and I didn't when

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Speaker 1: I read that article about ninety nine being bad against

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Speaker 1: the run, I was like, they're just trying to hype

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Speaker 1: this guy up, to send him out there and make

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Speaker 1: him crazy, because we know he is a double team

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Speaker 1: defeater all the time. And if you've watched any of

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Speaker 1: Hard Knocks, this guy, Aaron Donald was made by God.

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Speaker 1: I know we all are, but he was just made

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Speaker 1: a little bit different. And I can't wait to see

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Speaker 1: what we do against them. But basing it off of

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Speaker 1: last year, I am looking for Ezekiel Elliott to have

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Speaker 1: a huge day versus the Rams because I don't think

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00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 1: they have an answer for what we're gonna do in

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Speaker 1: the running game at all. Now, kind going off, you

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Speaker 1: might want to be I was gonna hear gonna, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna pitch this to you, Isaiah, I got you here. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So whenever you have the linebackers, and of course, really

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Speaker 1: that's been the weak spot of this this Rams defense

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Speaker 1: over the last two seasons has been the linebacking corps.

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Speaker 1: They didn't really address it a whole lot in the offseason.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you still have Kenny Young, Michael Kaiser, Leonard Floyd.

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Speaker 1: Those are your main guys in the linebacking corps for

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles. Now if if if that's a weak spot,

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Speaker 1: is it the running backs or the tight ends Isaiah

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00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 1: that have the or that are really the most dangerous

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Speaker 1: at this point, that's a good question. Um. I mean,

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00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 1: our running game is going to be solid, So I

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Speaker 1: guess let me clear that up. First of all, we're

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Speaker 1: still gonna be able to run the rock. Um. Again,

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Speaker 1: I'm very curious after and it sucks that we didn't

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Speaker 1: have a preseason obviously to get an idea of what

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00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,439
Speaker 1: these guys are gonna do. UM on defense with Stateley

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Speaker 1: as a new coordinator, But if they're as as a

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Speaker 1: defensive coordinator, if you do have questions with your front

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Speaker 1: set as the Rams do at this point, right versus

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00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, it's not even a matchup. Uh. You what,

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00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 1: you have to get creative in your schemes, right, So

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00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 1: you have to be able to slant your ded You

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00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 1: have to be able to run stunts with your defensive line,

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Speaker 1: meaning that you're you know, you're you're crossing guys or

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Speaker 1: you're running guys. You're not you're not lining up directly

567
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 1: against somebody and going forward. You're running across their body

568
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 1: trying to create uneven matchups. You're running linebackers in the

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Speaker 1: opposite direction. You're you're trying to do misdirection, all this

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Speaker 1: illusional type stuff right to create um leverage in a sense. Um,

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Speaker 1: that's what I foresee them having to do. Because for

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Speaker 1: them to think that there is gonna be able to

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Speaker 1: line up, um snap the ball on them, comes straight

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Speaker 1: ahead and be able to stop us, even with our

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Speaker 1: offensive line not being at one hundred percent, is still

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Speaker 1: not a good matchup for them. Um. Aeron Donald is

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Speaker 1: an absolute specimen. We all know that. But he's one guy, right,

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Speaker 1: He's one guy, um, and you know he from my understanding,

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Speaker 1: he's lost a little bit of weight as well. He's

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Speaker 1: slimmed up a little bit, which makes him more explosive,

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Speaker 1: but it doesn't necessarily help him in the run game.

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Speaker 1: Right when we talk about we got three hundred plus

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Speaker 1: pound men that are gonna be moving him, So you

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Speaker 1: got one two hundred eighty two hundred ninety pound man

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Speaker 1: versus two three hundred guys pound guys. He's going to

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Speaker 1: do so much. So I think that you will be

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00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 1: able to neutralize him in the run game. UM. I

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Speaker 1: know they definitely poked the bear and try to try

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Speaker 1: to piss him off and get him routed over this game,

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Speaker 1: but I think we can neutralize him internally on that

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Speaker 1: Um where we're gonna have to worry about him is

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Speaker 1: on the on the passing game. So I don't think

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Speaker 1: that we that we let Jarwin even has to even

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Speaker 1: worry about facing facing him at any point in time.

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Speaker 1: Bill won't have to worry about him too much. But

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Speaker 1: our interior alignement are definitely going to have their hands

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Speaker 1: full on trying to block him one on one unless

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Speaker 1: they're unless they start stunning. Heck, when do you think

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Speaker 1: that it could be a repeat of last year? Whenever

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Speaker 1: both Zeke and Pollard had one hundred plus yards or

601
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 1: is that a little bit too much to ask, even

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Speaker 1: with the firepower that the Cowboys have on that side

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Speaker 1: of the football. You know, Kyle, I think that's what

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Speaker 1: you have to do. And reason why I say that

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Speaker 1: is because of not having an off season, not having

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Speaker 1: a preseason, without having these games. Man, the one thing

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Speaker 1: you want to get your offensive line and rhythm of

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Speaker 1: is hitting people, not catching right. They want to come

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Speaker 1: in the rhythm and get zeke and tp off, you know,

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Speaker 1: And that's that's gonna be the thing, because it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be the first time that these guys have even hit

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Speaker 1: someone with a different color, and the adrenaline is gonna

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Speaker 1: be pumping. Somebody's gonna hyper ventilate. I know I might.

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Speaker 1: But at the same time, you've gotta get you gotta

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Speaker 1: get the running game going. And the best way to

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Speaker 1: do that and get this get this team in the

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Speaker 1: rhythm is to start with the running game. Look, no

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Speaker 1: one knows what the Cowboys are gonna bring to the table.

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Speaker 1: They think, you know, it's gonna be the deal with

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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator and the continuity there. But I'm really excited

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Speaker 1: about Mike McCarthy and what he's done historically over his

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Speaker 1: career with his tight ends. And so I see Jarwin

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Speaker 1: having a really big game against this Rams team that's

625
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 1: gonna be gearing up to try to stop the run

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Speaker 1: and stop some of our other weapons. Rob is that

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Speaker 1: is that the game plan is to get both Zeke

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Speaker 1: and Pollard involved immediately or I know nobody really knows

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Speaker 1: what the game plan is right now, but what has

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Speaker 1: perceived to be a key to this game is getting

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Speaker 1: those two guys involved early. That was what happened in

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Speaker 1: Week fifteen last year. But I know that's also not

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Speaker 1: exactly what Cowboys fans would want to hear. With the

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Speaker 1: new wide receiving Corps. Yeah, you know, it's it's been interesting.

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Speaker 1: One of the narratives coming out of training camp is

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Speaker 1: how much Zeke's going to be potentially used as a

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Speaker 1: as a receiver, And to me, I think it's it's

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Speaker 1: it's sliding a little too far in that direction. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think there's still this offense is still going to

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Speaker 1: be successful when he is setting the tone and setting

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Speaker 1: and then I think you Pollard's going to get his chances.

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Speaker 1: But then the second half to me is when hopefully

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Speaker 1: you've got a lead, and that's when you can really

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Speaker 1: start to wear down with both those guys, that's where

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Speaker 1: they got most of their That's when they were both

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Speaker 1: eated at the end of the end of the game

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Speaker 1: in December last year. So I think that's what you're

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Speaker 1: trying to do. McCarthy. To me, that's a little bit

650
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 1: of a false narrative that he won't use a running

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Speaker 1: he's done it. He's done it as an offensive coordinator

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Speaker 1: in New Orleans. Yep. He's done it in Green Bay

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Speaker 1: when he's had a good tanem of backs. So I

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Speaker 1: still think that's got to be the formula, and it's

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Speaker 1: gonna make things easier for the receivers, like we talked

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Speaker 1: about in the first segment. Hopefully it does. I hope

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Speaker 1: it does make it easier for the receivers because that

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Speaker 1: they're gonna have a tough matchup whenever the secondary comes around,

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Speaker 1: and I think you'll need both Zeke and Polar to

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Speaker 1: out in front in that game. But when we come

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Speaker 1: He won't be with us tomorrow, unfortunately, but we will

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Speaker 1: of Talking Cowboys, Glad you're with us. I'm inside the

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Speaker 1: SWBC Mortgage Studios. It's Week one, Episode three, a Thursday edition,

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Speaker 1: as NFL football is officially back to night. HECKM. Harrison,

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Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, and the great Isaiah stand back joining us

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Speaker 1: today as always, and guys who before we get into

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Speaker 1: talking special teams, I want to kind of hear what's

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Speaker 1: your prediction on tonight's game is going to be. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we've got two really good teams. I mean you talk

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Speaker 1: about the Kansas City Chiefs, of course, Super Bowl defending

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Speaker 1: champions with Patrick Mahomes and company returning pretty much everybody

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Speaker 1: from that team a year ago that was that was

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Speaker 1: good enough to win a championship, and they're gonna look

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00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 1: to try and make it back to back. But they

715
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Speaker 1: start things off against the Shaun Watson and a DeAndre

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Speaker 1: Hopkins list Texans team. Rob will start with you who

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Speaker 1: you got tonight's game and why it's simple for me.

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Speaker 1: Isaiah played with Tom Brady and Pat Mahomes is in

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Speaker 1: tom Brady mode for me now, I always if Tom

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Speaker 1: Brady's playing in the game, I got Tom Brady. If

721
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 1: they lose, they lose. But I'm going with Tom Brady.

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00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 1: I'm going with Pat Mahomes tonight. Heckma, man, I'm going

723
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 1: with the Dallas Cowboys South. And that's a dig at

724
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 1: my cousins in Houston, but I'm going I'm going with

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00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 1: the Texas. They beat him in the regular season, and

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00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 1: they had him in the playoffs, and I just feel like,

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00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 1: with the Super Bowl hangover, the prime be ready for

728
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 1: beating at home. Isaiah. Heckma, geez, it's me, It's it's okay.

729
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I'm here for you. Okay, I'm here for you.

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00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 1: I love Htown. I played for Billy Oh. I think

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00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 1: those guys are gonna be ready to roll. I think

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00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 1: they are. Their receivers are being undervalued and underrated right now.

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Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a shootout. But I think

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Speaker 1: Kansas City is still hungry. I don't I don't feel

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Speaker 1: I don't feel as if Kansas City is like other

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Speaker 1: teams that have won a Super Bowl where it's like, Okay,

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00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:04,359
Speaker 1: I hit this high and now I could chill out.

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Speaker 1: I think these guys are still hungry. I think they

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00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 1: want more. I think that there's they're still improving, they're

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Speaker 1: getting better. They got all their guys back and even

741
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 1: added more. So I gotta go with Casey with the

742
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,959
Speaker 1: good old Chiefs, baby, and they've got young sprowls. Heck,

743
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Speaker 1: they got young sprowls. Football. Football is a year by

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00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 1: year business man. You can't live off of what you

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00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 1: did last year. And it's Lois today, and I just

746
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 1: feel and I feel like the hype train is already

747
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 1: on the tracks and everybody's gonna get on board. Look, man,

748
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 1: we got a long time together, guys, we're just getting started.

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Speaker 1: It was since we already have one hundred million verse

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Speaker 1: hundred million. We got the forty million a year versus

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Speaker 1: forty million a year tonight, right, isn't it? Isn't that

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00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 1: the match up actually and forty million a year? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And I think he was a great point on the

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Speaker 1: fact that the Texans beat him in the regular season

755
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 1: and had them on the ropes in the postseason and

756
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 1: just basically straight up blew it is ultimate only what

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00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 1: ended up happening. They blew that one. So because they're

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00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 1: playing they're playing the Golden State Warriors of the NFL area,

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Speaker 1: the leader safe. There are no Golden State Warriors that Rob.

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00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 1: Rob compared the Chiefs to Tom Brady and the Golden

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Speaker 1: State Warriors, and in one segment, how do you beat that? What?

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Speaker 1: What argument? What argument can you put together with? Rob

763
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Speaker 1: says that the hype train is real, The hype train

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Speaker 1: is real. I guess, I guess. I gotta go. I

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Speaker 1: gotta sixteen. Yeah, there you go, there you go. I've

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00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 1: got Kansas City winning tonight. But I think it'll be

767
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 1: a good game. I really do. I'm gonna I'm stopping down.

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Speaker 1: I'm watching the whole all, all of y'all with Kansas City. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: they yes, yes, yes, and we're not changing it either. Um.

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Speaker 1: Before before we're done with with today's episode, I want

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Speaker 1: to kind of go into special Teams. We haven't talked

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Speaker 1: to any special teams yet, but it is significant in

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00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,359
Speaker 1: this game because one, we don't really know what's going

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Speaker 1: on with special teams in terms of the personnel. We

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00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 1: don't know exactly what John Fossil's gonna do. And also

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Speaker 1: John Fossil's returning to where he was the head or

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Speaker 1: not head coach but a special team's coordinator in Los

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Speaker 1: Angeles and making his return to the Rams if you

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00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,839
Speaker 1: remember back to that Week fifteen matchup last year, he

780
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 1: actually ran a fake punt against the Cowboys. It did

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00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 1: not work out for the Rams. Let's just say it

782
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 1: that way. But heck, Mazara a potential that we might

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Speaker 1: see something crazy from John Fossil this week. This Fossil,

784
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Speaker 1: So you have no idea what he's gonna do. I'm

785
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 1: just hoping that there's a market improvement from what we

786
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 1: had last year. Greg the leg is our kicker now

787
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Speaker 1: and I'm really excited to see him what he does,

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Speaker 1: you know, from from a special team's perspective, Man, I

789
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 1: just want to see number eighty eight return and punts

790
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys. That's what I'm hoping to see opening,

791
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 1: you know, Sunday night, and I think that's gonna set

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00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,720
Speaker 1: the tempo for the rest of the season once Ceedee

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00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,359
Speaker 1: Lamb gets out there and return him one. Don't do it?

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Speaker 1: Reconsider recent little Why you say that, you say that

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Speaker 1: I can Why Why risk it? Man? Why risk it?

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Speaker 1: I know you're not supposed to play scared, you know,

797
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Speaker 1: but you mean you gassed this guy up so much,

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Speaker 1: and you know he's supposed to be your pride and joy, um,

799
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,359
Speaker 1: your new addition, he already has enough stuff to worry

800
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 1: about on the offensive side of the ball. Don't throw

801
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 1: him out there and on punt return for somebody to

802
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Speaker 1: be up there to go out there and take a cheap,

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Speaker 1: cheap hit on him. You know. Um, that's the thing

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Speaker 1: that could happen if he was a kick return. I'll say, yeah,

805
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 1: you can put him a kick return, But part return,

806
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 1: that's a whole beast of his own. Man, you got

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Speaker 1: you got one dude that can go down there and

808
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 1: just go crazy, not pay attention to you know, to

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00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 1: him waving the hand, and somebody can just take him

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Speaker 1: out right. It's just not worth the risk. Um. I

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Speaker 1: hate to say that, you know, use one of your

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Speaker 1: other guys, But use one of your other guys. I

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00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 1: think you can get the same type of prediction. I

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Speaker 1: can't play scared, I said, you know, I hear you.

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Speaker 1: I hear you. What about what if I if he's

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Speaker 1: if they're if the rams are backed up and there's

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Speaker 1: a chance for a return. Otherwise, if it's more of

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00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,320
Speaker 1: a safer term, maybe go with somebody else. Maybe go

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Speaker 1: with I don't know, Cedric Wilson. I think you got

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Speaker 1: other guys that that can be just as productive. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't, I haven't. I need to see CD Lamb

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. I'll put it that way. I need

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Speaker 1: to see him in the NFL. College is one thing.

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00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 1: You got grown man out here that that are on

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00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,839
Speaker 1: rosters just for special teams. Now, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: It's just different. It's it's completely different. So I'm looking

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Speaker 1: forward to seeing how he reacts in the league, how

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Speaker 1: his speed is in the league, how he adjusts to

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Speaker 1: the to the influx of speed and power and size

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Speaker 1: of this new game. It's a new game, and you're

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00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 1: in it. It's real because I made the switch from

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Speaker 1: college to the NFL and it's not even in the

833
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 1: same ballpark. You got some guys that say, oh, it's

834
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Speaker 1: not that bad. The heck it ain't. Especially when you're

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Speaker 1: on a part return. You got dudes that are going

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Speaker 1: down or straight showing as fast as you, running as

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Speaker 1: fast as they can, and their sole purpose is to

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Speaker 1: put their helmet through your chest cavity. So I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: risk getting in these first couple of games. Let's get

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Speaker 1: let him get his feet wet a little bit, and

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Speaker 1: then we can talk about it. Maybe you know in

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00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 1: the second quarter of the season. Well, when you think

843
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 1: about the guys, I want to see it, but I'm

844
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:03,399
Speaker 1: just being selfish. I want to see it as well.

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Speaker 1: From a fan standpoint, I would love to see it.

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Speaker 1: But you think about the guys that in college Ceedee

847
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:10,359
Speaker 1: Lamb was making look like they were running in slow motion.

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Speaker 1: Those are guys that are fighting to stay on the roster,

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Speaker 1: fighting to keep their scholarships, whereas in the NFL it's upped.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's completely raised. You're you're fighting for a paycheck,

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Speaker 1: you're fighting for a roster spot. This is this is

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Speaker 1: your livelihood that you're actually on special teams to do.

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Speaker 1: Like you said, that's your sole job description, go hit somebody.

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Speaker 1: And I played the game of Matthew Slater. Matthew Slater

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Speaker 1: in New England and New England. He's like five team

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Speaker 1: that we would get together and go crazy just to

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Speaker 1: see him running the fastest. He is on the New

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Speaker 1: England roster and keeps getting paid millions of dollars every

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Speaker 1: year to simply run down there and make guys fair catch.

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Speaker 1: And if they don't fair catch, guess what he gets

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Speaker 1: paid to run down there and take their head off.

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Speaker 1: So that is all that there's there's there's two or

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Speaker 1: three guys on every roster day, that's all they're paid

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Speaker 1: to do. And you don't want to expose CD to that,

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Speaker 1: especially when there hasn't been a preseason for guys to

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Speaker 1: get their feet underneath them. The risk injuries just too

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Speaker 1: high this week. Hey, John Fossil was asked a couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks ago what what makes a good special teams

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Speaker 1: the first thing, like exactly though. You gotta be willing

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Speaker 1: to do whatever it takes at high speeds, Like Isaiah said,

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Speaker 1: you gotta have a little bit of that that little

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Speaker 1: tick in you to go down and get the job done.

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Speaker 1: But uh yeah, I agree. I think Ceedee Lamb would

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Speaker 1: be kind of scary to watch. It would be fun

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Speaker 1: to watch, but I would be so nervous the whole time.

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Speaker 1: It's like watching a quarterback, like a mobile quarterback run.

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Speaker 1: You want to see it happen, but you don't want

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Speaker 1: them to get hurt at the same time, So I

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Speaker 1: get both sides of it. Money don't make money. Let's

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Speaker 1: go hey, there you go, there you go. Um, I

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Speaker 1: mean that's the that's the theme of the week. I

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Speaker 1: guess is Earl Thomas is still out there anyways, Isaiah,

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Speaker 1: what do you got for the game on Sunday night? Man?

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Speaker 1: What Dallas Cowboys with the victory into New Sofi Stadium?

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Speaker 1: All right? Thirty one twenty four. We go down there

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Speaker 1: and we tee off on these boys. So Cowboys, all right,

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Speaker 1: thirty one twenty four. That's one way to get it done.

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Speaker 1: We'll get it. Put it in. Yeah, I just did. So.

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Speaker 1: We're keeping track of it all year long. By the way, boys,

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Speaker 1: we'll do some more predictions tomorrow our final show of

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Speaker 1: the week, nine thirty tomorrow morning, we'll predict the game

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Speaker 1: coming up on Sunday, we'll review what we talked about

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Speaker 1: all week long, and then we'll get you ready heading

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Speaker 1: into the weekend. But it's been a ton of fun.

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Speaker 1: Glad you've been with us here over the last forty

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Speaker 1: five minutes for Isaiah stand back for Rob Phillips in

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Speaker 1: the great Heck my Harrison, I'm Kyle Yeoman saying so long.

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Speaker 1: We'll see you tomorrow on Talking Cowboys. This has been

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