1 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: Time for the ft live host gamesho it is presented 2 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 1: by Fox One. We have two fan bases that are 3 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:12,559 Speaker 1: starving for a World Series appearance. One has never seen it, 4 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: the other hasn't seen it in a long time. And 5 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: we're gonna get a Game seven in the ALCS between 6 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:19,639 Speaker 1: the Blue Jays and the Mariners. Scotty Brown and Aj Perzinski. 7 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: I mean, first off, Aj, we saw sweep in the 8 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 1: National League side, and there were still some cool moments 9 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: on that side. But here in the American League we've 10 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 1: got seven. Yeah, it wasn't close. That's the point. This 11 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: is as close as it gets here. We've got a 12 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: game seven. Stars are stars, Laddie's a man, and look 13 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: at Toronto getting to host a Game seven here against 14 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:40,919 Speaker 1: a Mariners team that definitely made quite a few gaps 15 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 1: in this one. But it's not like you're heading into 16 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: Game seven being like, oh yeah, blue Jay's. 17 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 2: Got no No, no, not at all. I mean, yes, 18 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 2: you mentioned the NLCS. 19 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 3: I mean, obviously, the three home runs by a tany 20 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 3: and a ten punchouts probably the greatest game we've ever seen, 21 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 3: just singular game, clinching game, the whole deal. But what 22 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 3: do they say, both these franchise came into existence in 23 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 3: nineteen seventy seven. It's only fitting that they go seven 24 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 3: games to settle this score. 25 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 2: And it's awesome. It's been a series that's been crazy. 26 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 2: The first four games won by the road team. 27 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 3: After that, obviously, now the home team here wins a game, 28 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 3: the Mariners won Game five, the Blue Jays win Game six, 29 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:23,320 Speaker 3: and here you go, right, I mean, every winner take 30 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:24,919 Speaker 3: all Shane bieber verse, it's. 31 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:25,479 Speaker 2: Got to be Kirby. 32 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 3: I can't imagine him pitch casill because he struggled against 33 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 3: the Jays all year. Kirby gave up the most runs 34 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 3: of all time in a postseason game at eight I 35 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 3: believe last time he started so and. 36 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 2: The Mariners struggle away from home. The Blue Jays are 37 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 2: great away from home. So it's all lined up. It's 38 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 2: all gonna be drama. 39 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 3: And the most fascinating thing is we'll get into it, 40 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 3: is how are the managers deploy pitchers? Because that is 41 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 3: always the talk of every postseason game. 42 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: You know what I was thinking is the Mariners have 43 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: had one of the best starting staffs in baseball for 44 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: the last several years. 45 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 2: Now. 46 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: It wasn't as shiny this year as the prior couple seasons, 47 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: starting pitching for the Mars has actually been a huge 48 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: problem for them, besides. 49 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 4: Game one, Bryce Miller. 50 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: So, as I was watching this game unfold, aj, I 51 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 1: was thinking, if I'm Dan Wilson, do I send me 52 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: punt once I'm down two three runs and just completely 53 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 1: save anybody I consider high leverage with at this point 54 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 1: for them is at least three, if not four, or 55 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 1: five relievers, and turn this into somewhat of a bullpen 56 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: game with super short leashes for someone like George Kirby 57 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 1: or anyone else that would be starting this game based 58 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 1: on the recent history in this series. I didn't feel 59 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: like they played it out that way. I understand you 60 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: got to play and be competitive in this one, but 61 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 1: almost was thinking, Man, I mean I could get two 62 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 1: or three innings out of Brash. 63 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 4: It's a game seven, right, you can do two. 64 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 1: I can get two or three innings out of Bizardo, 65 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 1: two or three innings out of Munos. I mean that 66 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 1: right there almost adds up for you. I know it's unconventional, 67 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 1: but I don't know if I feel really good about 68 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 1: any of these starters against this particular lineup matchup wise. 69 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 2: No, I think I think you're right. 70 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 3: I thought when it was five to two and they 71 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 3: brought Brash and I was a little bit surprised. 72 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:05,639 Speaker 2: Bizarto in the game. Fine, but you know, we've talked 73 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 2: about this. 74 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 3: The Dodgers are really good about kind of punting a 75 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 3: game and getting ready for the next game. Dave Roberts 76 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 3: has learned from all of his years, like you know, 77 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 3: sometimes you got to lose a battle to win the war. 78 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 3: And you know, Brash looked not great tonight. What can 79 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:19,799 Speaker 3: he give you through over twenty pitches? And Jeff Hoffman 80 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 3: threw thirty pitches tonight, thirty two I think it was 81 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 3: or thirty three, whatever it was. 82 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 2: So he's wor's he going. 83 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 3: To be at tomorrow night? I mean, Louis Varland, dude, 84 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 3: his arm's gonna fall off. 85 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 2: He throws it. 86 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 3: I mean, no, he throws like not he throw one game. 87 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 3: He throws like two games a day. I feel like 88 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 3: you must throw a simulated game. It's unbelievable how much 89 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 3: he's pitched. But I mean, I look at Game five 90 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 3: for the Mayor or Game seven for the Mayors. Like 91 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 3: when I did Game five against the Tigers, right, they 92 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 3: they ran I don't even I forget who even started. 93 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 3: Maybe Kirby I think started that game. And then they 94 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 3: had you know, Bizarto for two, Spire for two, Munios 95 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 3: for two. They used Castillo in that game. They use 96 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 3: Gilbert in that game. They used everybody in that game. 97 00:03:57,960 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 3: That's kind of what you got to look at in 98 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 3: this game to say, all right, who's available and can 99 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 3: you give me multiple innings if we need them out 100 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 3: of our big guns. And by using Brash and Bizardo tonight, 101 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 3: does it lessen their effectiveness for tomorrow? Much like Kaufman 102 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 3: from the Jays, does it lessen their effectiveness for tomorrow? 103 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: I know fans are going to say, hey, we'll be fine. 104 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 1: Twenty one pitches from Brash and I think it was 105 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: fifteen for Bizarto, even though it was two innings, it 106 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: was fifteen. That's very efficient, so you'll definitely see him 107 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 1: if needed. But going two innings with him, you know, 108 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: I get it. You're trying to keep your team in 109 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 1: the game. It's a Mariners team that's boom or bust. 110 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: This is a top three power team all year long, 111 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: and this is what you're seeing two very different looking 112 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 1: effective offenses. 113 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 4: But for Seattle. 114 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 1: Some nights there's just not going to be much there, 115 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden they'll have, you know, 116 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:45,039 Speaker 1: a power show or they'll have a grand slam like 117 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 1: we saw from Gino Suarez in the prior game. So 118 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: it's a very different looking matchup in terms of who 119 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 1: you're seeing on both sides for this game seven. But 120 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: to go back for a sec to Game six, this 121 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 1: was pretty uncharacteristic from Seattle. 122 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 4: An amazing defense. 123 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,359 Speaker 1: They have certain players that are very good defensively, but 124 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: this was a very sloppy game for them. Defensively. It 125 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:10,239 Speaker 1: was season n three errors and they weren't particularly sharp 126 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: on the base paths either. 127 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 3: No, the single, I mean the new Reva single for 128 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:19,039 Speaker 3: JP Crawford on first, like what are we doing? Like 129 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 3: you got to be at least close enough to where 130 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 3: you can get to at least third on that ball, 131 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 3: he didn't even he got to second. And then obviously 132 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 3: cal Rawly hit into the double play. I mean they 133 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 3: hit into three double plays off you Savage in three 134 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 3: innings and all in like huge situations, and you Savage 135 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 3: hadn't given up a ground ball double play the whole year. 136 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 3: And as you know, I know it's limited, but in 137 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,280 Speaker 3: his five starts previous. So it was just one of 138 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 3: those games where the Blue Jays are meant to win. 139 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 3: And yeah, the Mariners didn't play particularly well. The Julio era, Okay, 140 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 3: I kind of forgive that he was probably gonna get 141 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 3: the second anyways. The Suarez era, Okay, it happens. The 142 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 3: cal rallier, I trust me, I've been there. I've been 143 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 3: there where you just panic and you just want to 144 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 3: try and make a play, and he threw it away 145 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 3: and it led to run. That didn't cost him the game. 146 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 3: To me, it was the Barger home run, and it 147 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 3: was the Vlad home run, and it was just you, 148 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 3: Savage is pretty good in the failure to hit with 149 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 3: runners in scoring position, that's what the Airs were the errors, 150 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:10,919 Speaker 3: and yes it helped them get a runner two, but 151 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 3: really it was the It was the lack of offense 152 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 3: that cost the Mariners in this game. 153 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, we just showed a tweet with Brian Hoag talking 154 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 1: about the three dps for Seattle's offense. It wasn't just 155 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: grounding into double plays, it was s grounding into double 156 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 1: plays at the absolute the worst possible times. 157 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, again and again, I mean you had him 158 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 4: back to back. 159 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 2: They did it. Ray didn't. 160 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 3: No, they did it three innings in a row. Raley 161 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 3: did it. Bases loaded right and then. 162 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 2: The left. 163 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 3: He hit into the double play of the rocket to 164 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:49,479 Speaker 3: the second baseman Jezus Crawford JP. Crawford hit into the one, 165 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 3: and then the next inning Julio hit into one. So 166 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 3: they hit into double plays three innings in a row 167 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,280 Speaker 3: to end innings and the one. Listen, the first one, 168 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 3: the three to six one is the hardest one to turn, 169 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 3: and the Blue Jays did it perfectly. And I thought 170 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 3: Smaltz and Joe Davis did a great job by explaining, 171 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 3: you know he did Jim and Az didn't throw the 172 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 3: ball as hard as he could and gave you Savage 173 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 3: a chance to get over there. 174 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 2: But again it just came down to lack of clutch inning. 175 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 3: The Mariners didn't hit in the clutch tonight and the 176 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 3: Blue Jays did. And again, listen, aj Hinch told us 177 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 3: this when he played against Marriage. 178 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 2: You keep him in the ballpark, you're probably gonna beat him. 179 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 3: Yes, Naylor hit the one home run, but other than that, 180 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 3: if they don't again in this series is kind of 181 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 3: what it's been if they game five, right, the Suarez 182 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 3: and the Raleigh Homer, what they scored their runs off of. 183 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 2: You keep them in the park, you win the game. 184 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: Mm And for Trey Savage, here's Sarah Langs in a 185 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: very small sample entering this one. He had five prior starts, 186 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: no double plays coursed. This time around, you saw it 187 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: in consecutive innings, and like AJ mentioned, I mean they 188 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: were on fire. Yes, we talked about it. The splitter 189 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:55,239 Speaker 1: was much better for you, Savage this time around. 190 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 2: But I meant it the first game they didn't swing 191 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:01,239 Speaker 2: at it. Tonight they swung in a lot of them. 192 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: Right, I'm saying that last game they I think it 193 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: was they said two for three, and I mean you're like, 194 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: that's it two for three for the Mariners in the 195 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: last game because they spin. 196 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:11,119 Speaker 4: Out a lot of them. 197 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 3: Agreed, they did a way better job, he Savage it 198 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 3: of getting the swinging up. Gosh, he threw a lot 199 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 3: at one point. I mean, I think they did the 200 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 3: When Erducci did the interview with Dan Wilson, he said, 201 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 3: what's seventy three percent or something or some crazy number 202 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 3: were off speed pitches to the to the Mariners. I mean, now, 203 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 3: apparently it's the game plan with tomorrow night. Guess what 204 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 3: when Jane Bieber takes them out and guess what they're 205 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 3: going to see sliders and breaking balls and curveballs, slur sweepers, 206 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 3: whatever the hell you want to call him. He's just 207 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 3: gonna be going right right until he gets his time 208 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 3: and then depending on the score, John Snander is gonna 209 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 3: be all right, next guy, right right, right, right right, 210 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 3: because apparently that's the game plan. 211 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: And remember Bieber didn't have the slider in the first 212 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:56,559 Speaker 1: in that last start, and I looked flatish, and then 213 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,079 Speaker 1: all of a sudden you just see him unleashing more 214 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: of them, and he was on fire for them. I mean, 215 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:06,319 Speaker 1: it is really cool because our show covers transactions so frequently, 216 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: right it's a big part of what we do. Who's 217 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: signing who, who's trading for who. The Blue Jays aren't 218 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: here unless they trade for Shane Bieber and get a 219 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: brilliant mad Max Sure's or Start, which didn't look like 220 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: a good signing for most of the year, but I 221 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:27,319 Speaker 1: said it. I think on Friday that start alone from 222 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:29,119 Speaker 1: Max was worth the contract. 223 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 2: It was. 224 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: I mean, if that is what you needed to vault 225 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: you into this situation now where you win a Game 226 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: six and you're going to get to a Game seven 227 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 1: here and have a chance to get to the World Series, 228 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: then it's worth it. We were looking at them like 229 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 1: two ish starters, maybe three if Feaver's okay, because he 230 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: was troublesome against the Yankees, got taken out in the 231 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 1: third inning. And now you're like, okay, this team has three, 232 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:53,839 Speaker 1: if not four starters that you feel pretty good about it. 233 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: If Max Sure's are suddenly going to have a curveball 234 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: that's a factor, which hasn't really been a factor for 235 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: a lo long time. 236 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, they also have Baskett available. It's not Baskett's on 237 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 3: the roster for this for this, so they have another story. 238 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 3: They have guys that can give him link and listen. 239 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 3: The Shurezer star was worth it just to see his 240 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 3: face when John Schneider came out to take him out 241 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:13,959 Speaker 3: and he basically told him to kick Rocks down the 242 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 3: street because I ain't coming out of his damn game. 243 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 3: I've got I'm going to the Hall of Fame. I'll 244 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 3: do what I want. So I have no problem with 245 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 3: with them signing Max Schurzer. He still can be good 246 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 3: when he's right and when he's healthy. So I love listen, 247 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 3: I love winner take all games. And here we go 248 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 3: Beaver versus Kirby. Let's see what you got in Toronto. 249 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 3: That place is going to be going freaking ape shit. 250 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 3: So I love it. 251 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 2: I freaking love it. It's awesome. 252 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 1: I think it's worth pointing out the stars for the 253 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: Blue Jay. So they're two best bats this year. Flattie 254 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: George Springer bo was on there too, but I think 255 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: he's a notchdown and it's crazy they're doing all of 256 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: this without Boba Schett, and they have a really solid 257 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: offense with you know, the grinders that they talk about 258 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: and the no namers that have become names for them. 259 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: But Vlattie's a half a billion dollar star and he 260 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 1: showed up on defense today too with that big double play. 261 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: I mean, he's a smart baseball player. 262 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 4: What the when he ran around? 263 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 2: No, he circled the pillows too. Let's not forget tonight, 264 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 2: right right? 265 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 4: He homered? Yeah, exactly. 266 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 1: He did a lot of good things, a lot of 267 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 1: smart things, and obviously showed off the pop in this game. 268 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: That's his sixth home run of the postseason. He has 269 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: been a superstar right for them. This is exactly why 270 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 1: they signed them. He's got the hit tool and he's 271 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: got pop. 272 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:35,079 Speaker 4: He's a dude, he's a force. 273 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: He's such a good playoff hitter too. Do you know, like, 274 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: does that make sense to phrase up. 275 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:43,959 Speaker 2: He's up this game? Because here here's the thing. 276 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 3: The thing about Lottie was all and listen, I played 277 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 3: against his dad in the playoffs. You can get his 278 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 3: dad to swing in anything, okay, but he would hit 279 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:53,079 Speaker 3: it right. I mean you could throw balls and bounce 280 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 3: and hit him out of the park, okay. But the 281 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 3: one thing about Junior is in the playoffs he has 282 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 3: shrunk the zone to where he has really locked. And 283 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 3: this is what we always talk about with players in 284 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 3: the postseason. You shrink the zone because you just concentrate more. 285 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 3: It's every pitch means so much more, so you just 286 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 3: lock in. I know it shouldn't be that way, but 287 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 3: I'm telling you what happens. And he looks like a 288 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 3: different player. He's taking controlled swings, he's swinging at balls 289 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 3: in the strike zone. And this team doesn't strike out 290 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 3: a lot they get And that's the one thing they 291 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:23,559 Speaker 3: keep saying is, you know, if you throw mediocre breaking 292 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 3: balls to the Blue Jays, they whack them, right, strike 293 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 3: breaking balls, they whack them because they don't swing and miss. 294 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 3: So listen, and Vlad is the leader of this, and 295 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 3: Vlad if they go, if Vlad goes, they go. Just 296 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:36,679 Speaker 3: watch when if he goes out in the first thing 297 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 3: to Mark and he gets a hit, watch the energy 298 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 3: not only on that team of the Blue Jays change, 299 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 3: but in Rogersoner. 300 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 2: Watch how the energy just goes through the roof mm hm. 301 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:47,439 Speaker 1: And for Springer, obviously he didn't get a knock, he 302 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 1: had a walk. It's crazy. I mean, he looks like 303 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: he's feeling it pretty good. So I guess my question 304 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: is do you think about anything differently for the next 305 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: game or you just roll them out there and hope 306 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:01,679 Speaker 1: that he's going to be okay and he can take 307 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: some big swings for the team. 308 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 4: Is it? 309 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: When you're a teammate of his, are you like, okay, 310 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:10,959 Speaker 1: this dude came to play because I mean, I don't 311 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 1: want to compare injuries, Like you know, Anthony Santandera ends 312 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: up going down for the rest of the season, backs 313 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: bothering him. He's had issues all year, right, and then 314 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: you look at someone like Springer and you're like, damn, 315 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 1: that guy got drilled with ninety seven. You know, I 316 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 1: just think that tracks your kneecap and he's playing back in. 317 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:33,079 Speaker 3: Back in knee are way different though, like back you 318 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 3: I don't know if you ever hurt your back, but 319 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 3: it's like debilitating. You almost can't move right and knee. 320 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 3: He got hit in the knee, and I know it hurt. 321 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 3: Obviously it hurt. I've been hitting me plenty of times. 322 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 2: Right here. 323 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 3: Here's the thing. Springer can hit, like he looked uncomfortable 324 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 3: a little bit, but he can go up there and hit. 325 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 3: He can't play the outfield. He's the d h which 326 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 3: is fine, that's what they need him for. But listen, 327 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 3: let's just say he runs into a ball in Game seven, 328 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 3: it'll be all worth it. I mean then it has 329 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 3: what three or four days to get ready for the 330 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 3: World Series, So if they win, I mean, yeah, you 331 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 3: got to run him out there. 332 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, He's just a presence. You saw the first 333 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 2: about of the game. 334 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:09,599 Speaker 3: Nine pitches, nine pitch a bat, the first about of 335 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:12,559 Speaker 3: the game, and it just sets a tone and pitchers, no, 336 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 3: if you make a mistake, the first pitch. 337 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 2: It can be one nothing and that's a big deal. 338 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 1: Hey, quick reminder to everyone that we're doing this live 339 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: right now recapping game six of the ALCS. We'd love 340 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 1: if you can hit the subscribe button. It's a simple 341 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: ask here. 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No, there are 351 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: many roadmaps for Seattle to create to win a game. 352 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 4: For game seven, and they won, you can say, oh man, 353 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 4: but now like. 354 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: Toronto's got the momentum and they're home. Okay, how did 355 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: the first two games of this series go? 356 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 3: No, No, I cannot disagree. I cannot disagree with the 357 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 3: Toronto has. 358 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 2: All the momentum in this series. 359 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 3: Because if there's one thing we've learned in this series, 360 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 3: nobody has any clue what the hell's gonna happen. Everyone 361 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 3: would have said, oh, this team's gonna win, this team's 362 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 3: gonna win. Nobody has any idea what's gonna happen andmore. 363 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 2: That's what makes Game seven so great. Who's gonna pitch? 364 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 2: We know who's gonna start. We don't know how long 365 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 2: they're gonna go. We don't know who's gonna get the 366 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 2: big hit. 367 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 3: Is it gonna be Ernie Clement shanking went over the 368 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 3: first baseman's head for a double. Is it gonna be 369 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 3: Gino Suarez hitting a Grand Slam? Is it gonna be 370 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 3: you know, Leo Revos down there like he did in 371 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 3: Game five. 372 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 2: Tying it up. 373 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 3: You just never know, and that's what's awesome. But yeah, 374 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 3: as far as momentum, the momentum, Tom Kelly used to 375 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 3: say this, it's an old bit baseball term. Momentum is 376 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 3: only good as your next day starting pitcher. And you 377 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 3: know what, Trey Savage out pitch Logan Gilbert. That's why 378 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 3: the Blue Jays won. Look at who's done better. Usually 379 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 3: that's the team that wins. So it's gonna come down 380 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 3: to who gets the best start, who can get the 381 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 3: most outside of their starter usually, and then who's healthy 382 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 3: enough in the bullpen and not exhausted enough because these 383 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 3: guys have all been used a ton, and the high 384 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 3: leverage guys for both these teams. So I don't know, 385 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 3: I don't know what's going to happen, but I'm looking 386 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 3: forward to it, and I just wish it started a 387 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 3: little bit earlier, just so you know. 388 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 2: It's late on the East coast for good. It's old, 389 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 2: it is. Hey. 390 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 1: The only thing I'll say to make you feel a 391 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 1: little bit better is remember what this looked like three 392 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: was it three years ago? 393 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 4: And beyond? 394 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: I mean, I've been part of an as of you 395 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 1: long games broadcast wise, coverage wise, pre post, all that 396 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: kind of stuff, and obviously it's fun, but we get 397 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 1: all of that action packed into about three hours versus 398 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: a game five or a game seven. 399 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 4: It's super cool, but it would be like four and 400 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 4: a half plus. 401 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 1: You can be like, oh, well, you just then you 402 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: don't like baseball enough, Like, no, it doesn't have anything 403 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 1: to do with that. Like I want to see the 404 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: action packed into a certain time period and not every 405 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 1: moment be dragged out where you know. 406 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 4: People start like, okay, let's go. So that's me. I 407 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 4: do like the way like the pace is playing. 408 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: And I remember it was a discussion at one point like, oh, well, 409 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:11,120 Speaker 1: it's going to mess up the big moments, right, You're 410 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:11,679 Speaker 1: not gonna have that. 411 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 4: It really hasn't messed up the big moment moment. 412 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 1: But what you need in an extra forty seconds for 413 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 1: batting gloves to be readjusted again in a game five 414 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:22,399 Speaker 1: or a game seven, right, depending on a series, for 415 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 1: you to feel really good about it. I feel like 416 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 1: there's plenty of tension that builds. There's still plenty of 417 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 1: mountain visits and pitching changes, and we're good, so it'll 418 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:35,439 Speaker 1: be nice. Hey, on the Dodger fan side, you're excited, 419 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 1: I guess because you're getting this to seven, but both 420 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 1: teams get plenty of rest. What are you thinking heading 421 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,919 Speaker 1: into Game seven if you're a fan of the Dodgers, Like, 422 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: do you think there's a team that they match up 423 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 1: better than? 424 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 2: Oh? 425 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 4: Perfect? Jay blank? 426 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 1: Dropping this in as a Dodger fan, I don't know 427 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 1: who I want to face. It's a good call. I mean, 428 00:17:55,640 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 1: the Mariners lineup has more pop. Lu Jay's lineup seems 429 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: more pesky. The Mariners have a better bullpen. 430 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 4: I don't know. 431 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 1: Now with the starting pitching tale of the tape because 432 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 1: of the way some of the Mariners starters have looked 433 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: like on paper, it's it's definitely edge Mariners. 434 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 4: But I don't know. If you're a Dodger fan, who 435 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 4: do you want to see? 436 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 3: You know, my honest opinion doesn't matter. Where have I 437 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 3: had the Dodgers in my power rankings the entire season. 438 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 4: You just think they're gonna just run through whatever. 439 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 3: I don't know they're gonna I don't know if they're 440 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:32,199 Speaker 3: gonna run through them. But I just think they're the 441 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 3: best team. I think they're they're healthy at the right 442 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 3: time now, and everyone's gonna. 443 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 2: Say, oh, but they're gonna get all this time off. Listen. 444 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 3: These guys aren't young guys. They're not They're veteran guys 445 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 3: that know how to prep themselves. Dave Roberts has been 446 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:45,879 Speaker 3: through this. The Dodgers have been through this a million times. 447 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 3: I just feel like it doesn't it shouldn't matter. If 448 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:49,919 Speaker 3: you're a Dodgers fan, you should just be like, Okay, 449 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 3: we've got here. We got through the hardest part. And 450 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 3: now we go and now we have a chance to 451 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 3: win the World Series. So yeah, Honestly, if I'm the Dodgers, 452 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 3: I'd face I'd rather face the Blue Jays because their 453 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 3: starting pitchers are a little bit less than what the 454 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 3: Mariners possibly can be and the bullpen is a little 455 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 3: less than what the Mariner bullpen can be. 456 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:14,919 Speaker 1: Okay, and hey, the Mariners can change some games with 457 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 1: one swing, not that the Blue Jays can't. 458 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 4: But there's definitely more. 459 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 2: PA's more depth. 460 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 3: There's more power depth in the Blue Jays lineup than 461 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 3: there is in the in the sorry, in the Mariners 462 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 3: lineup than there is in the Blue Jays lineup. 463 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:30,400 Speaker 1: Right, Hey, one thing I want to make sure we mentioned, 464 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 1: since we weren't on after Game five Jeff Hoffman. Should 465 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 1: he have been in there? And then what about the 466 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 1: way he was used in Game six? 467 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:43,119 Speaker 4: Just now? 468 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 1: And how that could you know, make him less effective 469 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: or whatever. Obviously he's going to be available, he'll pitch 470 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: if need be. Now is he going to go to innings? 471 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: It might be asking a. 472 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:55,399 Speaker 4: Lot of it. 473 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 3: I doubt it, but I think if he can give 474 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 3: him one inning and be effective. How was used in 475 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 3: game five. I mean, listen, John Steinder knows this team better. 476 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 3: I understand why he wanted to flip cal Ralely around, 477 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 3: because you know, Little hadn't given up home runs and 478 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 3: this and that. 479 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 2: But cal Raly, if you look at his stats, he. 480 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 3: Hit more, way more homers as a righty per at 481 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:16,679 Speaker 3: bat than he did as a lefty. I think he 482 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 3: hit thirty two as a lefty in twenty eight or 483 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 3: something like that as a righty some number like that, 484 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 3: but he got way less at bats as his right 485 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 3: handed hitter. 486 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 2: So listen and again listen that game that only tied 487 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:29,400 Speaker 2: the game, right. 488 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 3: The problem is after that the walks of where it 489 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,160 Speaker 3: killed them, and then they fell behind, and then Ginosuarez 490 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 3: came up and hit the home the grand slam that 491 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 3: put that game away. 492 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 2: But I had no problem with the way he deployed it. 493 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 3: I think he was just trying to get through that 494 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 3: and then he was He knew he had hoffmin for 495 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 3: the ninth. But you know, it's always easy to say, oh, 496 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 3: he should have had Hoffman throw two winnings. What happens 497 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:49,439 Speaker 3: if Hoffman gives up that home run in the eighth, 498 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 3: you know, and then maybe his confidence is shot. 499 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 2: I don't know. 500 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 3: It's it's always easy to look back and say, oh, 501 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:56,879 Speaker 3: he should have done this, he should have done that. 502 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,360 Speaker 2: How do we know? Maybe Hoffmin was sick. Maybe Hoffman 503 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 2: I don't know, Oh got bit by a mosquito or something. 504 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 2: I don't know, like who knows. Well. 505 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 4: He also gave the explanation. 506 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:08,120 Speaker 1: I mean, they don't have as much confidence in him 507 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: as some of the most dominant closers in the sport. 508 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 1: And I think that's fair. I mean, I don't know 509 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:19,160 Speaker 1: if the explanation made sense, Like he gives up Homer's like, Okay, yeah, 510 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: there's definitely some risk there. But it's not like he's 511 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,400 Speaker 1: a bad picture. It's just that the way that runs 512 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:27,679 Speaker 1: are given up by Hoffman r via home run. So 513 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 1: Brendan Little, I mean, has had his moments in the postseason. 514 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 1: I don't know if he's going to be in the 515 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 1: circle of trust after that mess of a three batters 516 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:39,120 Speaker 1: that he faced. But I see what John Schneider's saying 517 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 1: in my mind, AJ is that this isn't a top. 518 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 4: Ten relief ace in our sport. 519 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 1: Right in some cases, you're like, you know, like in 520 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 1: the in the Dodgers Phillies series in the NLDS, there 521 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:52,640 Speaker 1: was at least one or two spots, especially I think 522 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: it was Game four. Maybe we're like, Okay, Duran's got 523 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 1: to come in now. You know, you can't wait, You've 524 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: got to come in right now, Like this is the 525 00:21:58,040 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: inning where you need to shut it down. 526 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 4: You worry about later later. 527 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's the way that the Blue 528 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 1: Jays bullpen is constructed, where it's like there's that one 529 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: guy like okay. 530 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,199 Speaker 2: Agreed, agreed a million percent with you. There's not that one. 531 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 3: I mean, Haffin has been the guy that has closed 532 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,120 Speaker 3: the games at the end of the year, but he's 533 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:18,199 Speaker 3: not the guy that you look at and he I 534 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 3: like Haffman. So I don't want to This is not 535 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 3: bad mouthing. I'm just saying, no, he's not the guy 536 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 3: that strikes fearing. He's not Mariano Rivera, he's not Eric 537 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 3: Ganie when he was doing his thing right. He's not 538 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 3: Trevor Hoffman, he's not you know whoever you want to 539 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:35,880 Speaker 3: He's not class A last year when you were like, man, 540 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 3: nobody can hit this dude. 541 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 2: So yeah, he's not. 542 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 3: The guy that you know if you look out there 543 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 3: and you say, okay, Jeff Hoffman's warming up, all right, Well, 544 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:44,640 Speaker 3: maybe somebody can run into one here. He could punch 545 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:46,639 Speaker 3: us out, but we also could run into one. And 546 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 3: we saw him struggle in the postseason last year. So 547 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 3: there is a little history there. But if you're the 548 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:53,360 Speaker 3: Blue Jays and you got a one room league, guess 549 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 3: who's getting the ball? Affman and you better just hope 550 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:56,680 Speaker 3: he doesn't give up a homer. 551 00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,199 Speaker 1: And if you're the Blue Jays and you're in a 552 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: tight spot and the fifth or sixth inning and. 553 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:08,159 Speaker 3: Louis arlanstraight Louis no matter what I mean, it is. Remember, 554 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 3: and when he was traded, everybody was like, what are 555 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 3: they doing? Louis Varland? 556 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 2: Who is this guy? Right? 557 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 3: And everyone in the Twins is like, why are we 558 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 3: giving up Louis Varland? He's been pretty good, He's got 559 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,199 Speaker 3: like four more years of control. We're giving him up 560 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 3: for nothing. So, I mean, great trade by the Blue Jays. 561 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,479 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Farland's still a league mid guy, right. 562 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's like in his second year or something. 563 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's still a league mid guy. 564 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's crazy, right, based on service time here, I 565 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,640 Speaker 1: mean he's he's actually been up and down, I think 566 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: for since twenty twenty two, but it's it's low. It's 567 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,120 Speaker 1: low enough that I think he's still a league minimum guy. 568 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 1: I gotta double check that, but I believe I'm accurate there. 569 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 2: I know he's got a lot. 570 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 3: I know he has years of control remaining, because I 571 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 3: remember when he got traded. Everybody's like, why are the 572 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 3: Twins trading that guy? He's got all kinds of all 573 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 3: kinds of you know, controllable years left and never twins. 574 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:57,439 Speaker 2: People are like, oh, we don't know. 575 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, earliest are eligible twin twenty seven. So good for Toronto. 576 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,439 Speaker 1: I mean, that's exactly what you want to do. I 577 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,120 Speaker 1: think that's all we got for this one. And if 578 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: you have questions thoughts for us, good news. We do 579 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: a two hour show every weekday, so we're gonna get 580 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 1: some rest. I'm gonna fly down there. We'll do the 581 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 1: show in Orlando on Monday afternoon, one o'clock, a two 582 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 1: hour show. Not winter Park, not Winter Park, different spot. 583 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 1: But that's Logan Gilbert spot, and that. 584 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 3: That's a lot where he's from, which is funny. If 585 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 3: you watch a show, you know that he explained he's 586 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 3: not from winter. 587 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:39,160 Speaker 1: Park type logan Gilbert into YouTube type logan Gilbert foul Territory. 588 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:40,360 Speaker 4: And then you can watch the conversation. 589 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 1: It was good, and Logan and Trey Savage will be 590 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 1: the only guys that are definitely not pitching in Game seven, 591 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 1: otherwise it's gonna be crazy. We'll get more in terms 592 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 1: of how things could play out in term, you know, 593 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 1: quotes and stuff postgame and pregame that we'll talk about 594 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 1: as much as possible on the one o'clock show. We 595 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 1: do know George Kirby is going to art that one 596 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 1: that was announced right away right afterwards. We'll look forward 597 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 1: to that. Joe Girardi scheduled to join the one o'clock 598 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 1: East Coast Times Show, so that conversation will go in 599 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 1: a number of directions. 600 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 2: Is he did he managing any winner take all games? 601 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 2: Joe Girardi. 602 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 1: My guess is yes, just based on how much time 603 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:19,160 Speaker 1: he spent. 604 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 2: He had to play play games. He had to play 605 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 2: it too. 606 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:24,879 Speaker 1: I mean he's played in so many he played in 607 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:26,400 Speaker 1: so many postseason games. 608 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I don't know. 609 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 3: I'm just well, he was on those good, those really 610 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 3: good Yankee teams just won it in like three games 611 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:33,199 Speaker 3: so I don't know. 612 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 2: That's why I kind of asked that question. 613 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:37,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I mean the Yankees are in the playoffs 614 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:39,479 Speaker 1: almost every year. You manage the Yankees for a long 615 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 1: period of time. So oh yeah. Twenty seventeen, ALCS was 616 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 1: at the end for Joe Girardi and that was Game 617 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 1: seven against the trash Can Astros. 618 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 2: I think that they lost. They lost that game. 619 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 3: That was in that the al Tuove homer game where 620 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 3: he wouldn't take a shirt off. Isn't that the whole 621 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 3: That was the whole thing that started that conspiracy? 622 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 1: That was twenty nineteen twenty Yeah, twenty seventeen, he is right, No, twenty. 623 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,160 Speaker 4: Seventeen when he didn't take it off. 624 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 1: No, twenty seventeen was when they cheated and we didn't 625 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 1: find out about it until what twenty nineteen, and we 626 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 1: had already known there was an issue, and that's when 627 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 1: speculation was buzzing about them in general, and then it. 628 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:25,399 Speaker 2: Was buzzing twenty nine. That was funny. That's a good wordplay, buzzing. 629 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,400 Speaker 1: But exactly, thank you. That was completely by accident. Yes, 630 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: he was fired twenty seventeen. But anyway, I'm getting off topic. 631 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk to Joe tomorrow. We'll talk about, you know, 632 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 1: a lot of things with him, including Yanks and Phillies 633 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,119 Speaker 1: and then this scenario that's playing out here this Game seven. 634 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: So thanks for watching everyone, and also you can watch 635 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 1: the next game, Game seven on the new Fox one 636 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,440 Speaker 1: app they Live for Live. Go check it out QR 637 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:54,400 Speaker 1: codes on the screen. The link for the Fox one 638 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 1: app is in the description of both the podcast that'll 639 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 1: come out for this and the YouTube episode. Really in 640 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 1: all of our they're the presenting sponsor for these few 641 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 1: weeks here of the postseason cover John foul Territory. We 642 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 1: will see you at one o'clock