WEBVTT - Giants perspective on adding Rafael Devers w/Susan Slusser 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:02.160 Buster was going to get a long leash as the 0:00:02.240 --> 0:00:06.200 guy in charge. He's beloved, he's an franchise icon. But 0:00:06.480 --> 0:00:07.760 this was full. 0:00:12.440 --> 0:00:15.960 We're expecting Susan Slesser soon. Let's talk about the Giants. 0:00:17.480 --> 0:00:20.200 How good are the Giants with rapfield evers? 0:00:20.239 --> 0:00:20.800 They're better? 0:00:21.400 --> 0:00:22.120 How much better? 0:00:22.920 --> 0:00:24.880 Significant? Significantly better? 0:00:24.880 --> 0:00:27.200 For me? Do you want to rank that l West now? 0:00:27.360 --> 0:00:30.480 Well, it's still Dodgers, okay. I think with the Giants, 0:00:30.520 --> 0:00:32.560 they jumped in number two with their pitching. Logan Webb. 0:00:33.159 --> 0:00:35.720 If you ain't seen Logan web pitch this yere, he's 0:00:35.760 --> 0:00:39.800 a stud. He's an absolute stud. And the rest of 0:00:39.840 --> 0:00:42.040 their pitching has been really good too. That's why they 0:00:42.040 --> 0:00:45.280 can afford to move the guys they move with Hickson 0:00:45.560 --> 0:00:48.000 and Harrison because they have other guys that are pitching 0:00:48.040 --> 0:00:51.919 really well. Robbie Ray's been really good. And so for me, 0:00:52.040 --> 0:00:53.519 what do they need? What's the thing we took? The 0:00:53.520 --> 0:00:56.080 stat we talk about every year with the Giants. They 0:00:56.120 --> 0:00:59.160 haven't had a thirty thirty home run guy since Barry Bonds. 0:01:00.120 --> 0:01:02.160 That was in two thousand and four. I believe leir 0:01:02.200 --> 0:01:05.759 I was there. That's crazy, okay, So who can hear 0:01:06.480 --> 0:01:09.640 if anybody can hit. If anybody can hit, well, they've 0:01:09.680 --> 0:01:12.360 had stars, buster posey. I mean, listen, they've had stars. 0:01:12.400 --> 0:01:16.000 They just have anybody. Oh yeah, they don't have a star. True, 0:01:16.480 --> 0:01:19.600 but this takes pressure off a damis. This makes their 0:01:19.640 --> 0:01:22.839 lineup significantly better now. And you know what it brings. 0:01:23.319 --> 0:01:25.759 It brings an energy to the team that they're like, man, 0:01:25.760 --> 0:01:28.840 our front office is going for boys, We're going for cras. 0:01:29.120 --> 0:01:30.000 You can't put a price on that. 0:01:30.280 --> 0:01:32.800 No, I mean, this is a for me. This is 0:01:32.840 --> 0:01:36.640 a top ten hitter in baseball. And sure, you're going 0:01:36.680 --> 0:01:38.800 to go to San Francisco and sometimes it's gonna go 0:01:38.800 --> 0:01:41.119 opposite field and instead of going off the monster, it's 0:01:41.120 --> 0:01:43.520 going to be a long flyball out that's expected. That's 0:01:43.600 --> 0:01:47.520 part of what makes recruiting certain superstar bats difficult if 0:01:47.560 --> 0:01:50.200 you're San Francisco, because some hitters are gonna look there 0:01:50.200 --> 0:01:51.720 and they're going to look at other spots and be like, 0:01:51.960 --> 0:01:54.280 do I want my numbers to go down? Because in 0:01:54.400 --> 0:01:57.120 almost every case, your power numbers are going to go 0:01:57.160 --> 0:02:00.640 down there compared to most other ballparks opposite end of 0:02:00.680 --> 0:02:04.520 the spectrum here, Yes, this team is playing well. Most 0:02:04.520 --> 0:02:08.120 of their players are in that prime window. He mentioned Webb, 0:02:08.160 --> 0:02:12.000 He's twenty eight a Domins and Ryan Walker twenty nine, 0:02:12.120 --> 0:02:14.560 Robbi Rays having a great year. He's thirty three. Matt 0:02:14.639 --> 0:02:16.799 Chapmans on the il, but he'll be back. He's thirty two. 0:02:17.600 --> 0:02:18.400 Got your Bailey. 0:02:18.639 --> 0:02:21.040 Yeah, the time is now. If you're Buster Posey, you 0:02:21.080 --> 0:02:22.679 know you're not pushing it down the line. 0:02:22.760 --> 0:02:22.959 Here. 0:02:23.800 --> 0:02:25.800 I heard someone talking about this and this is a 0:02:25.800 --> 0:02:28.760 big point for me. Buster Posey came up under Brian Savian. 0:02:29.440 --> 0:02:33.760 Did Brian Savian? Say what you want about Brian Savian, 0:02:33.800 --> 0:02:35.400 but he was the architect of with them winning the 0:02:35.400 --> 0:02:37.919 three World series. Okay, what did Brian Savian have a 0:02:37.960 --> 0:02:39.760 knack to do? When he thought it was time to strike, 0:02:39.800 --> 0:02:41.680 He made a move to get him over the top. 0:02:41.880 --> 0:02:45.600 Marco Scutero, right Hunter Pence, all these guys to get 0:02:45.680 --> 0:02:47.760 him over the top, and it worked for three World series. 0:02:47.919 --> 0:02:50.160 Buster Posey came up under that he's a former player. 0:02:50.200 --> 0:02:52.320 Guess what he thinks. We can win every year, guys, 0:02:52.320 --> 0:02:54.560 and we just get the right pieces. But he smelt 0:02:54.600 --> 0:02:57.040 a great opportunity and not have to give up a lot, 0:02:57.080 --> 0:02:58.600 and the owners gave him the go ahead to do. 0:02:58.639 --> 0:03:01.280 And guess what he did? Yeah, we'll take Raffi Devers. 0:03:01.280 --> 0:03:04.160 Are you kidding me? One thirty something ops plus in 0:03:04.200 --> 0:03:07.600 the middle of our line up. Huh please? Here? Oh 0:03:07.639 --> 0:03:10.720 you want Jordan Nickson, you want Harrison, and you want Tims, 0:03:10.720 --> 0:03:13.120 the first rounders he ways away and some guy that 0:03:13.200 --> 0:03:17.000 no one's ever heard of, Bello Byo. Yeah, here you go, 0:03:17.120 --> 0:03:19.440 Red Sox. We'll take Raffi Devers problem off your hands. 0:03:19.560 --> 0:03:22.040 No, you don't know how to communicate with him. Most 0:03:22.040 --> 0:03:24.359 people in the league know Devers. He's been in the 0:03:24.400 --> 0:03:26.919 league for a while. He is not a problem child. 0:03:27.000 --> 0:03:30.200 He's not This is not Manny Ramirez in Boston. And 0:03:30.240 --> 0:03:32.320 also they kept Manny and how did that go pretty 0:03:32.360 --> 0:03:35.640 well for them while he was there. Yeah, so it's 0:03:35.640 --> 0:03:39.040 not like they're acquiring someone that's going to be a problem. 0:03:39.120 --> 0:03:44.120 As long as they know how to do this, talk, communicate, they. 0:03:44.000 --> 0:03:47.680 Know how to do this under Buster Posey, Matt Chapman, 0:03:48.200 --> 0:03:52.160 Willia Domas now Raffi Devers over six hundred million dollars 0:03:52.200 --> 0:03:56.040 they spent in those three dues because they couldn't they 0:03:56.040 --> 0:03:59.640 couldn't produce enough position players to get the job done. 0:04:00.440 --> 0:04:03.160 Maybe four han Ziety never got that money, or maybe 0:04:03.160 --> 0:04:07.280 far Han was like, I don't see any surplus value. 0:04:07.480 --> 0:04:12.600 Buster Posey sees an opportunity to win. He's striking while 0:04:12.640 --> 0:04:13.840 the iron's hot. 0:04:16.400 --> 0:04:20.160 Raphaeldevers has fifteen homers this year. All lefty bats on 0:04:20.200 --> 0:04:22.240 the Giants combined have fourteen homers. 0:04:22.800 --> 0:04:23.839 Oh my gosh. 0:04:24.120 --> 0:04:28.039 Yeah, much more on this right in two minutes with 0:04:28.200 --> 0:04:30.440 Susan Slusser, who's going to join us to talk more 0:04:30.520 --> 0:04:39.640 about the impact for the Giants. Susan Slusser joins us 0:04:39.760 --> 0:04:41.719 right now, and we got to give some love to 0:04:41.760 --> 0:04:45.559 the Giant side of the story here. Senior baseball writer 0:04:45.760 --> 0:04:50.360 for the San Francisco Chronicle, Susan, how crazy was this 0:04:50.480 --> 0:04:52.880 news when you first either saw it or heard about it? 0:04:53.839 --> 0:04:56.880 But I mean it was June fifteenth. You know that 0:04:56.920 --> 0:04:59.760 it's just almost unheard of now to make deals, big 0:04:59.800 --> 0:05:02.640 deal like that this early. I love it. I love it. 0:05:03.279 --> 0:05:05.039 You know when I covered the A's for a million years, 0:05:05.279 --> 0:05:07.719 Billy Bean did this a few times, not quite this early, 0:05:07.760 --> 0:05:10.480 but he did swing some earlier big trades. You tend 0:05:10.560 --> 0:05:13.720 to get sometimes a better price. And I've always felt like, hey, 0:05:13.720 --> 0:05:15.440 if you want a guy and you've got the deal 0:05:15.480 --> 0:05:19.120 in place, you're going to get more you have them 0:05:19.120 --> 0:05:23.440 for longer. The Giants really really be a big left 0:05:23.440 --> 0:05:25.880 handed bat, as you guys were just saying, and I 0:05:26.440 --> 0:05:29.120 hear you, AJ, let's not even go go to Susan, 0:05:29.279 --> 0:05:32.680 I see how you are. But yeah, that's I mean, 0:05:33.160 --> 0:05:37.679 Buster identified the need and he went out and got it. Bam. 0:05:38.200 --> 0:05:40.320 Well, Susan, listen, when you're not on time, you know, 0:05:40.520 --> 0:05:41.920 then we have to make adjustments. 0:05:41.960 --> 0:05:48.880 So I just have to ask er Scott was talking, 0:05:48.880 --> 0:05:51.080 Susan was talking too many s's. I couldn't hear either 0:05:51.120 --> 0:05:55.080 one ignoring. Okay, but is this the biggest trade for 0:05:55.120 --> 0:05:58.480 the Giants since they traded Booth bondser Francisco Loiano and 0:05:58.560 --> 0:06:01.120 Joe Nathan for another greatft hand of hitting star for 0:06:01.160 --> 0:06:01.719 the Giants? 0:06:03.480 --> 0:06:03.640 Hm? 0:06:03.800 --> 0:06:11.599 Who would that be? I mean that one's right up there. Uh. 0:06:11.640 --> 0:06:15.479 I mean this is the biggest biggest Giants that made 0:06:15.560 --> 0:06:17.120 in a law. I mean that was for me. 0:06:17.120 --> 0:06:18.640 It might be the biggest one ever. 0:06:19.320 --> 0:06:22.560 Yeah, I mean this is one of the most the biggest, 0:06:22.600 --> 0:06:25.080 brightest trades the Giants have made as long as I 0:06:25.080 --> 0:06:27.599 can remember, they've signed guys that they haven't made a 0:06:27.640 --> 0:06:30.400 trade with this kind of potential impact in forever that 0:06:30.440 --> 0:06:31.080 I can remember. 0:06:32.080 --> 0:06:34.719 Yeah, this one's huge, This one's huge, and that's you know, 0:06:34.760 --> 0:06:37.840 the previous front office did a lot of the heavy 0:06:37.880 --> 0:06:41.760 lifting and getting this year's team where it is. Uh, 0:06:41.920 --> 0:06:45.760 I think. But my one criticism of the previous administration 0:06:46.120 --> 0:06:50.000 is that they did not make big trade deadline moves 0:06:50.400 --> 0:06:53.200 the last three years. They needed something more, they didn't 0:06:53.279 --> 0:06:55.120 do it, and we saw what happened down the stretch. 0:06:55.200 --> 0:06:58.280 They faded, missed the playoffs three years in a row. 0:06:58.320 --> 0:07:01.080 The one year he did something was Chris Bryant, which 0:07:01.440 --> 0:07:02.920 you know at the time looked like that was a 0:07:03.000 --> 0:07:06.280 nice trade, but didn't wind up really making much difference 0:07:06.320 --> 0:07:10.320 one way or another. So this I mean, certainly post 0:07:10.400 --> 0:07:13.680 that World Series run of by far the biggest deal 0:07:13.720 --> 0:07:15.320 they've made. At any time of year. 0:07:17.680 --> 0:07:19.680 It might be that time. 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This is what 0:08:32.480 --> 0:08:34.280 everyone I think would agree is at least the top 0:08:34.320 --> 0:08:36.040 fifteen thatt I've been calling at least the top ten 0:08:36.120 --> 0:08:38.600 bat in my mind. So how much do you think 0:08:38.640 --> 0:08:42.239 this changes the complexion of the season for San Francisco 0:08:42.320 --> 0:08:43.800 in terms of what they needed? 0:08:45.200 --> 0:08:48.440 Well, they have the pitching, the defense is usually solid. 0:08:48.480 --> 0:08:50.800 Chapman's out right now, but you know when he's back, 0:08:50.840 --> 0:08:55.080 they they're solid to very solid. We have known since 0:08:55.080 --> 0:08:58.120 before the season started that they were light on offense 0:08:58.320 --> 0:09:01.080 and they were not going to have the best lineup 0:09:01.080 --> 0:09:04.480 in the division by any means. This had become a 0:09:04.600 --> 0:09:07.840 major issue. Not enough left handed hitters, not a left 0:09:07.880 --> 0:09:11.080 handed power. I mean, it was really starting to show. 0:09:11.080 --> 0:09:13.360 And as good as the pitching is, the starting pitching 0:09:13.400 --> 0:09:16.280 has been very good. The bullpen's been outstanding, there's going 0:09:16.360 --> 0:09:19.400 to come a point where the pitching goes into a 0:09:19.440 --> 0:09:21.560 little bit of a funk and you need the hitting 0:09:21.640 --> 0:09:25.679 at that point to step up. That offense, you know, 0:09:25.880 --> 0:09:28.720 was doing what it could certainly. You know they've they're 0:09:28.800 --> 0:09:31.640 right there, you know, a half step behind the Dodgers. 0:09:31.640 --> 0:09:34.080 They've had a very nice start to the season. But 0:09:34.200 --> 0:09:36.320 at some point that offense was going to have to 0:09:36.360 --> 0:09:41.040 do more. You know, the trade letting Lamont Wade go, 0:09:41.320 --> 0:09:44.320 that was step one. We all love Lamont, but he 0:09:44.400 --> 0:09:47.719 was just struggling getting Willie Domas going. Finally he got 0:09:47.760 --> 0:09:50.920 a day off going into Colorado, so it wound up 0:09:50.920 --> 0:09:53.120 being kind of two days off and then Colorado. He 0:09:53.200 --> 0:09:55.640 looks like he's kind of back where he was if 0:09:55.679 --> 0:09:59.280 he's going when Chapman gets back, and then adding Devors, 0:10:00.600 --> 0:10:03.200 they've got a much much stronger middle of the order. 0:10:03.240 --> 0:10:05.319 And remember they've got Junghu Lee who's now back in 0:10:05.360 --> 0:10:09.120 the leadoff spot. They've got Elliott Ramos who potentially could 0:10:09.120 --> 0:10:11.080 be an All Star for a second year in a row. 0:10:11.920 --> 0:10:14.320 You know, they've still got some weak spots there, but 0:10:14.440 --> 0:10:19.120 it links Linthen's lineup, and you know, as Don Smith 0:10:19.160 --> 0:10:22.840 said yesterday, that Cove is suddenly going to be seen 0:10:22.920 --> 0:10:24.760 some more action from the Giants side. 0:10:24.840 --> 0:10:29.200 Finally, who benefits the most in that lineup from the 0:10:29.240 --> 0:10:32.680 addition of Devers? Is it somebody that's getting protection? Is 0:10:32.760 --> 0:10:36.240 Elliot Ramos who now doesn't have to do as much? 0:10:36.360 --> 0:10:39.079 Or does Elliot Ramos then kind of say, WHOA wait 0:10:39.120 --> 0:10:41.959 a minute, I was the star? Is there is there 0:10:42.040 --> 0:10:44.880 some is there somebody that really is going to positively 0:10:44.920 --> 0:10:46.440 affect the most? 0:10:47.160 --> 0:10:47.319 Well? 0:10:47.440 --> 0:10:50.160 I think everybody is thrilled about this move. You know, 0:10:50.280 --> 0:10:53.880 a Logan Web yesterday he's he's very close to Kyle Harrison, 0:10:53.880 --> 0:10:55.400 one of his best friends, and he said he was 0:10:55.400 --> 0:10:58.640 ecstatic about about having Devers so tells you how the 0:10:58.679 --> 0:11:01.360 pitching staff feels. And in fact, I think the pictures 0:11:01.360 --> 0:11:03.040 are the one that will ones that will benefit the 0:11:03.040 --> 0:11:06.439 most in the lineup. You know, it's they will probably, 0:11:06.720 --> 0:11:09.439 you know, move things around from time to time. That's 0:11:09.440 --> 0:11:12.400 the way Bob Melvin's kind of done things. They will 0:11:12.520 --> 0:11:15.480 sort of platoon some guys, so on a given day, 0:11:15.559 --> 0:11:19.640 it could be somebody different, but certainly whoever is hitting 0:11:19.679 --> 0:11:21.719 right in front of him is probably going to get 0:11:21.720 --> 0:11:24.240 the benefit of it. And you're right, it will take 0:11:24.280 --> 0:11:25.880 a little bit of the pressure off some of the 0:11:25.920 --> 0:11:29.240 bigger bats for lack of a better word, in the 0:11:29.280 --> 0:11:33.559 lineup now, guys like Ramos, guys like Chapman, Wilmer Flores. 0:11:34.200 --> 0:11:36.320 But we don't know where Devers is going to get 0:11:36.320 --> 0:11:38.400 the bulk of his playing time still. You know, he 0:11:38.520 --> 0:11:43.040 could play third until Chapman's back. But when Chapman's back, 0:11:43.040 --> 0:11:46.040 obviously he's going to be there. So do you take 0:11:46.240 --> 0:11:47.960 do you just put him at first? He hasn't wanted 0:11:47.960 --> 0:11:49.520 to play first. They're going to sit down and have 0:11:49.559 --> 0:11:52.640 a chat with them and said, then they'll decide the 0:11:52.720 --> 0:11:56.320 DH spot is Wilmer Flores. Wilmer Flores can play first base, 0:11:57.360 --> 0:12:01.200 but they really like at DH to sort of minimized 0:12:01.240 --> 0:12:02.920 sort of the wear and tear on his legs. Last 0:12:03.000 --> 0:12:05.840 year he just was not himself because of leg injuries. 0:12:05.880 --> 0:12:08.720 So I think that's going to be really interesting to see. 0:12:08.720 --> 0:12:10.800 But he'll be in there. Wherever he is, he will 0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:11.520 be in the lineup. 0:12:12.760 --> 0:12:15.560 Susan, tell me about the other side of this trade, 0:12:16.360 --> 0:12:19.240 if it hurts the Giants at all from a run 0:12:19.280 --> 0:12:23.800 prevention standpoint this season, and also what Red Sox fans 0:12:23.800 --> 0:12:28.480 should be expecting from Jordan Hicks and from Matt Harrison, 0:12:28.600 --> 0:12:31.400 who was immediately optioned by the Red Sox, but I 0:12:31.400 --> 0:12:34.080 would imagine will be a factor for them at some point. 0:12:35.440 --> 0:12:37.880 Yeah, Harrison, I mean, he's just he's he's a talent. 0:12:38.000 --> 0:12:40.000 You know, he was a Giant's top pitching prospect for 0:12:40.040 --> 0:12:41.960 the last several years until you know, he came up 0:12:42.040 --> 0:12:45.480 last year. Yeah, he's had his struggles. You know, he 0:12:45.600 --> 0:12:49.040 was a rookie getting adjusted to the league. He's very young, 0:12:49.080 --> 0:12:52.560 he's twenty two. He's local, so I think this came 0:12:52.600 --> 0:12:54.560 even you know, it's a little bit even more of 0:12:54.559 --> 0:12:56.760 a shock when you're a local guy. He's from Danville 0:12:56.760 --> 0:13:00.439 in the East Bay. Loved pitching for the Giants, you know, 0:13:00.480 --> 0:13:02.600 and you're on the mound warming up for a game 0:13:02.640 --> 0:13:05.360 and suddenly you're traded. Like nobody would envision that, especially 0:13:05.520 --> 0:13:08.720 again on June and fifteenth. But he's going to be fine, 0:13:08.760 --> 0:13:11.360 and I think it will. This will probably make him 0:13:11.360 --> 0:13:14.080 even tougher and better. Logan web Said said the first 0:13:14.120 --> 0:13:15.280 thing he told him is you're going to be a 0:13:15.280 --> 0:13:18.679 star in Boston, and I think he has the capability 0:13:18.720 --> 0:13:21.920 to do that. He's left handed, he throws strikes, He's 0:13:21.960 --> 0:13:24.280 got a lot of movement on all of his stuff. 0:13:24.800 --> 0:13:27.640 You know, he just needs to learn how to pitch 0:13:27.679 --> 0:13:29.160 at the big league level a little bit more and 0:13:29.200 --> 0:13:33.000 get more experience. I think he'll be up probably very quickly. 0:13:33.480 --> 0:13:36.320 Jordan Hicks wanted to be a starter. He was so 0:13:36.559 --> 0:13:38.679 great for the first sort of month and a half 0:13:38.760 --> 0:13:41.440 last year in a starting role and then ran out 0:13:41.480 --> 0:13:43.760 of steam. He said it was he sort of wore down. 0:13:44.360 --> 0:13:46.560 So this year they tried it again. He really wanted 0:13:46.600 --> 0:13:48.800 to go back to starting, and it just never it 0:13:48.880 --> 0:13:52.200 just never clicked for him. And you know, currently he's 0:13:52.200 --> 0:13:54.840 on the iel with a toe injury from dragging his 0:13:54.880 --> 0:13:58.320 toe and his delivery that that's all resolvable, that's not 0:13:58.400 --> 0:14:00.760 something that's an issue. I think he felt like you'd 0:14:00.760 --> 0:14:02.880 got that figured out. He's pretty close to coming back. 0:14:03.440 --> 0:14:06.480 He's obviously got a ton of experience in the bullpen. 0:14:06.559 --> 0:14:08.480 He can help them there and if they want to 0:14:08.480 --> 0:14:11.440 try him as a starter, Andrew Bailey's there, you know, 0:14:11.520 --> 0:14:14.320 I know him from Oakland, I know him from San 0:14:14.360 --> 0:14:17.160 Francisco where he's the pitching coach. He will figure out 0:14:17.200 --> 0:14:19.320 a way to make things work if that's what they want. 0:14:19.400 --> 0:14:22.160 So that that's pretty interesting. And you know, don't sleep 0:14:22.160 --> 0:14:24.880 on James Tibbs, who is the Giant's first first round 0:14:24.920 --> 0:14:27.880 pick last year. That one hurt. That one also hurts. 0:14:28.040 --> 0:14:30.440 You know, you don't want to lose number thirteen. Overall. 0:14:30.520 --> 0:14:35.680 He was doing well at Hi a Eugene, So I 0:14:35.720 --> 0:14:37.840 think that one, you know, that might come back to 0:14:37.840 --> 0:14:39.000 bite them more than anything. 0:14:40.560 --> 0:14:44.360 Susan, your your athletics love knows no bounds, no end. 0:14:44.440 --> 0:14:46.120 So you know I'm going to drop them in. 0:14:46.640 --> 0:14:48.960 Yeah, you just can't. You just can't help yourself, can you. 0:14:49.000 --> 0:14:52.280 It's amazing, It's amazing. All right? What are the Giants 0:14:52.280 --> 0:14:54.240 fans feeling on this? They have to be ecstatic, right, 0:14:54.360 --> 0:14:57.640 And are they just all praising Buster Posey for doing 0:14:57.680 --> 0:14:59.920 this deal? And yes, I know you're talking like this 0:15:00.120 --> 0:15:02.640 gonna hurt, and this is gonna hurt, but they got 0:15:02.720 --> 0:15:05.480 Raffie Devers and everyone is just saying they didn't give 0:15:05.560 --> 0:15:09.400 up much. So are they just praising Buster Posey and 0:15:09.480 --> 0:15:11.600 in the front office for making this deal with the 0:15:11.600 --> 0:15:13.720 Red Sox at a time when nobody saw this coming? 0:15:14.920 --> 0:15:17.760 I mean you'd have to. I mean, look, Buster was 0:15:17.800 --> 0:15:20.280 going to get a long leash as the guy in charge. 0:15:21.120 --> 0:15:24.840 You know, he's beloved, he's an franchise icon, but this 0:15:25.200 --> 0:15:28.440 was bold. I mean he really he should get all, 0:15:29.160 --> 0:15:32.400 you know, all the praise in the world for this one. 0:15:33.000 --> 0:15:35.760 And you know, he's the thing he's done so far 0:15:35.840 --> 0:15:39.400 that has been great is he's quick to identify needs 0:15:40.360 --> 0:15:42.640 and then do something without looking like, you know, there's 0:15:42.680 --> 0:15:47.080 any panic, like he doesn't believe in the team as 0:15:47.120 --> 0:15:50.600 a whole. He's really kind of walked that line. Well. 0:15:50.960 --> 0:15:54.280 But man, for a first major deal, this is this 0:15:54.320 --> 0:15:56.480 is huge. This is a big swing, which I guess 0:15:56.520 --> 0:16:00.720 is exactly what we would expect from somebody of Buster's background. 0:16:01.520 --> 0:16:05.080 But yeah, I think the fan base is thrilled. You'd 0:16:05.080 --> 0:16:08.200 have to be, and Buster said yesterday, this is the 0:16:08.280 --> 0:16:10.960 kind of guy you just can't get in their prime. 0:16:11.880 --> 0:16:13.600 So they jumped on it when they thought they thought 0:16:13.600 --> 0:16:16.800 they had the opportunity. He's twenty eight. I mean, this 0:16:16.960 --> 0:16:21.080 is a guy who has many good years left assuming 0:16:21.120 --> 0:16:26.040 full health, and on a deal that's not prohibitive. I mean, 0:16:26.080 --> 0:16:29.200 and also, you know what, Giants' ownership stepped up here too. 0:16:30.160 --> 0:16:33.520 Buster got it done convinced ownership, and ownership was willing 0:16:33.560 --> 0:16:35.400 to take on what's probably going to be about two 0:16:35.480 --> 0:16:38.080 hundred and thirty a lot of it deferred. 0:16:39.200 --> 0:16:41.640 Are you surprised if you were told that this trade 0:16:41.760 --> 0:16:44.080 was going to happen, that Eldris would not have been 0:16:44.160 --> 0:16:46.760 part of it. Are you surprised that they didn't really 0:16:46.840 --> 0:16:49.520 have to give up that much. 0:16:51.560 --> 0:16:53.880 I think we knew if they made a big deal 0:16:54.040 --> 0:16:56.200 this year that it was probably going to be from 0:16:56.240 --> 0:16:58.720 their young pitching. They've got a lot of good young arms. 0:16:58.720 --> 0:17:02.280 They've got more in sac Gremento. They've especially Carson Wizenhunt, 0:17:02.320 --> 0:17:04.239 who's who's probably going to be the next guy up 0:17:04.240 --> 0:17:07.440 when they have a need that that is a position 0:17:07.480 --> 0:17:11.120 of absolute strengthen them. Buster has mentioned that he'd he'd 0:17:11.119 --> 0:17:15.199 be comfortable trading some of their good young starters. Andy, 0:17:15.320 --> 0:17:18.160 did you know they know what they have in Kyle 0:17:18.200 --> 0:17:21.680 Harrison and he's a good pitcher. I think he could be, 0:17:21.920 --> 0:17:23.760 you know, maybe a two to three kind of big 0:17:23.880 --> 0:17:27.000 league pitcher. He's a left team maybe even better because 0:17:27.000 --> 0:17:30.200 this stuff is good. He's not quite at that caliber yet. Obviously, 0:17:30.280 --> 0:17:32.080 he was not a regular starter for the Giants. He 0:17:32.160 --> 0:17:34.480 was pitching in verlander spot while Verlander was out and 0:17:34.520 --> 0:17:38.119 had been in the bullpen before then. But yeah, uh, 0:17:38.840 --> 0:17:40.960 Eldridge was probably not going to be on the table 0:17:41.000 --> 0:17:43.880 this year and potentially will never be on the table 0:17:43.920 --> 0:17:46.080 if he does what the Giants are expecting him to do. 0:17:47.520 --> 0:17:49.399 All right, Susan, Before we let you go, I have 0:17:49.440 --> 0:17:51.920 to ask this, since we know your love for the athletics, 0:17:52.240 --> 0:17:54.160 how's it going in Sacramento? Do you think they would 0:17:54.160 --> 0:17:55.840 be this bad? I didn't think they'd be this bad? 0:17:56.119 --> 0:17:58.480 And is there any heat on Mark Cott say, because 0:17:58.520 --> 0:18:00.960 you know, you start reading some stuff and people are like, oh, 0:18:01.040 --> 0:18:03.280 Kotsee could be in the hot seat. But I disagree 0:18:03.320 --> 0:18:05.760 with that because he's only given what he's given and 0:18:05.800 --> 0:18:07.920 he's had to deal with moving a team and this 0:18:08.000 --> 0:18:10.240 and that, and everyone's complaining about the stadium. Did you 0:18:10.240 --> 0:18:11.359 think it would be this bad? 0:18:12.560 --> 0:18:14.240 I thought they were going to be good, you know, 0:18:14.359 --> 0:18:16.840 all spring. I was out there. Yeah, I was out 0:18:16.840 --> 0:18:18.880 there a few times the spring, and you know, they've 0:18:18.920 --> 0:18:22.280 got the you know, they're almost the inverse of the Giants. 0:18:22.280 --> 0:18:24.159 They had a really good offense. You know, they've got 0:18:24.200 --> 0:18:28.400 a lot of good bats. When the Giants were kind 0:18:28.400 --> 0:18:30.680 of you know, it became obvious that the Giants were 0:18:30.680 --> 0:18:32.760 looking for a bat. I kept going like, maybe try 0:18:32.800 --> 0:18:35.000 to pry somebody away from the A's. They need pitching. 0:18:35.160 --> 0:18:37.520 But the pitching's been worse than I thought it would be. 0:18:37.720 --> 0:18:39.719 There's just no way to blame kots say. There's just 0:18:39.880 --> 0:18:42.520 there's so many factors going on with the A's, I mean, 0:18:42.680 --> 0:18:47.200 playing where they are and dealing with all of that 0:18:47.000 --> 0:18:51.440 that stuff. I do think they will be better, maybe 0:18:51.480 --> 0:18:53.119 not the rest of it, but then the second half. 0:18:53.240 --> 0:18:55.960 They have had a tendency under Kotze to really take 0:18:56.000 --> 0:18:58.200 off in the second half. I don't think that they're gonna, 0:18:58.720 --> 0:19:01.160 you know, contender anything, but I think they could make 0:19:01.200 --> 0:19:03.399 things difficult on a day to day basis for a 0:19:03.440 --> 0:19:06.800 lot of teams because they do have a really good lineup. 0:19:06.800 --> 0:19:08.280 And aj, I have to tell you, I will be 0:19:08.320 --> 0:19:13.280 at the groundbreaking in Las Vegas a week from today, So. 0:19:15.359 --> 0:19:24.960 Yeah, next Monday, week after. I was just there, and 0:19:25.040 --> 0:19:27.760 if their groundbreaking, they've done some serious work, because when 0:19:27.760 --> 0:19:29.560 I was there last week or two weeks ago, whatever 0:19:29.560 --> 0:19:31.680 it was, they still had cranes on there and said 0:19:31.680 --> 0:19:34.560 demolition and progress stay away. So I don't know what 0:19:34.600 --> 0:19:37.359 they did. But I don't know until I see something 0:19:37.400 --> 0:19:40.200 going into the ground besides a golden shovel Susan, I 0:19:40.240 --> 0:19:42.000 don't know if that I'm believing it, but we'll see. 0:19:42.800 --> 0:19:44.879 Yeah, that's what I've always said. You know, I'm not 0:19:44.880 --> 0:19:46.560 going to believe it until the shovels in the ground. 0:19:46.760 --> 0:19:48.879 I'm not sure at this point I will believe it. 0:19:48.880 --> 0:19:51.639 Maybe Hey, maybe this is just me like being in denial. 0:19:52.640 --> 0:19:56.800 But it's going to be a very expensive venture. To date, 0:19:56.960 --> 0:20:00.520 we have not heard of any new investors joining that 0:20:00.520 --> 0:20:03.760 that project. They were looking for some The costs are 0:20:03.920 --> 0:20:07.240