1 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:11,159 Speaker 1: Hey guys, time for the Sunday Sampler Lunch podcast in 2 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: the Nashville Podcast Network. On the Bobbycast, I sat down 3 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:18,279 Speaker 1: with Madeline Rolo and we talked about Shania Twain, Keith 4 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 1: Urban almost made her crash her car, how she was 5 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: in My Little Pony as a voice. It's really good 6 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 1: that's coming up. Also, take this personally with Morgan Hewlesman. 7 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 1: She talked to flirt Coach Benjamin Cameras. I don't even 8 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: know what that is, but you're gonna hear that. Four 9 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: Things with Amy Brown. We're gonna start with that right here, 10 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 1: So be sure if you like any of this, go 11 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 1: and subscribe. It would help us. Maybe you find a 12 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:43,160 Speaker 1: podcast you like. We'll be back next week to sample 13 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: some other stuff. But let's go now. Here is a 14 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: clip from Four Things with Amy Brown. 15 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 2: Personality. What's loss. 16 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 3: So excited right now? I am joined by Benjamin Cameras, 17 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:13,759 Speaker 3: the flirt coach, which we all need a little more 18 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 3: flirting in our lives, so this is exciting. Benjamin, how 19 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 3: are you? 20 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 4: I am doing quite well, Morgan. Very excited to be 21 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:24,040 Speaker 4: here on the show today and connect with your listeners 22 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 4: and talk about. 23 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 5: Flirting and more. 24 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 3: Naturally humans would like connection, right, but connection is also 25 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:33,320 Speaker 3: very scary, so it's hard. Yes, yeah, so you know, 26 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 3: and everybody's asking the same question, right, everybody who's I 27 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 3: should say, in the dating world specifically, is asking the 28 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 3: same question. Where can I meet single partners? And how 29 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 3: can I actually go up to them? What's the right 30 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 3: things to say? 31 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 5: What do I do? 32 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 6: So? 33 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 3: What are those first steps you'd tell somebody, Hey, go 34 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 3: here and give this a try kind of thing. 35 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 4: So I frame the flirt all around connection first and foremost, 36 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 4: because I think that's a really natural and beautiful place 37 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 4: for it to start. 38 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 5: And how I define. 39 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 4: The flirt is that flirting is the genuine expression of 40 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 4: interest in the present moment, without expectations, and so that 41 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 4: is where I think it really starts. You could also 42 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 4: think about it, and I share that the flirt can 43 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 4: also be an active service. Maybe it's putting a smile 44 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 4: on someone's face, helping them have a better day, helping 45 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 4: them just get into a better mood. Maybe it's a 46 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 4: way for you to observe something around you. Maybe you 47 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 4: learn something new about yourself, learn something new about someone 48 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 4: that you're talking to. You're flirting with. So if the 49 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 4: flirt can start from a place of connection, then I 50 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 4: think it can evolve and become more layered from there 51 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 4: if you want to spice it up, make it a 52 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 4: little more juicy, if it's someone you're starting to date 53 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 4: or even in a relationship with. But the flirt is 54 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 4: not in my mind. And like, you see someone that 55 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 4: you think is attractive out you're out one night at 56 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 4: a party, let's just say, and you just walk over 57 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:08,959 Speaker 4: to them and be like, so, I think you're hot, 58 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 4: want to go out? Like that's what That never actually works, 59 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 4: does it? No? And that is not flirting. That is 60 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 4: a very specific question that you are asking with one 61 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 4: result in mind. 62 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, not a flirt. Not a flirt. That's just a question. 63 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 3: A few of those come up, and I can really 64 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 3: say they've never panned. 65 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 5: Out into anything. 66 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 7: No. 67 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 4: But if that started a little bit differently, maybe this 68 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 4: person was making some eye contact from across the room, 69 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 4: maybe that you saw them and you started to flirt 70 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 4: with the eyes a little bit, some body language. You're 71 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 4: sort of dancing around this space. They walk over to you, 72 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 4: approaching you from the front right, not tapping you on 73 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 4: the shoulder, catching you off guard, but approaching from the front. 74 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 4: It's like, say, I noticed you from across the room. 75 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 4: You really caught my eye. I wanted to come up 76 00:03:57,880 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 4: and introduce myself. 77 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 5: My name's been how are you. 78 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: Oh? 79 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 3: I just got like little goosebumps as you did that. 80 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 3: I was like, if somebody did that for me, I'd 81 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 3: be flattered. 82 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, such a big difference. 83 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 4: Right, and then you're making so genuine expression of interest. 84 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 4: It's just looking to Okay, let me learn this person's name, 85 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 4: let me learn one or two things about them. Let 86 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 4: me make some observations around this space. You're at the party, 87 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 4: what music is happening, who else is there? What kind 88 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 4: of food do they have? 89 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 5: What are we wearing? Right? 90 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 4: Starting to make that connection in the present moment, So 91 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 4: feeling your way through the flirt rather than thinking your 92 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 4: way through it. A lot of people tend to be 93 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 4: in their head. They're analyzing what I'm going to say next. 94 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 4: They're picking apart every little thing about Oh my god, 95 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 4: the body language looks like this, or oh they just 96 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 4: said this, or ooh you know, last time the flirt 97 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:48,720 Speaker 4: didn't go well for me, so maybe this time it's 98 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 4: not either. Let's come back to the moment. Just feel 99 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 4: our way through it, and then the lack of expectations piece. 100 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:59,359 Speaker 4: It's like, if you are coming up to talk to 101 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 4: this person and solely because you think they're hot and 102 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 4: want to go on a date, well, then your flirt 103 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 4: is very much one dimensional and happening specifically because you 104 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 4: want this one thing to happen. Your flirt may not 105 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:14,039 Speaker 4: be received that way and the other person may not 106 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 4: want the same thing. So if you can let go 107 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 4: of those expectations and just get to know a little 108 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 4: bit about who this person is and let the flirt, 109 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 4: let the flirt evolve from there, because the other person 110 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 4: gets to receive the flirt how they want to flirt 111 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:33,599 Speaker 4: back or not, how they want to really respecting and honoring. 112 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 5: Who they are. It just it establishes that. 113 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 4: Point of connection first and foremost, which can who knows 114 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 4: what could happen from there. Maybe it leads to a date, 115 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 4: Maybe it leads to you know what, they're taken, but 116 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 4: they've got a single friend. Or maybe you find you 117 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 4: have a mutual friend in common, or you just have 118 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 4: a really awesome conversation about a concert you both saw 119 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 4: and you didn't know you were both there. Maybe that's 120 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 4: the flirt and why can't that be enough? Sometimes you 121 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 4: made a connecttion. 122 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 5: What prompted you to move to Nashville specifically? 123 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 8: I always wanted to. I visited Nashville I think at 124 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 8: like fifteen or sixteen for the first time, as soon 125 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 8: as I figured out there was like a magical land 126 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:24,840 Speaker 8: where people came and wrote songs for a living and yeah, 127 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:26,799 Speaker 8: and then I was pretty determined. But as a Canadian, 128 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 8: it's hard. You need a visa. You can only stay 129 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 8: for six months without once, so you kind of need 130 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 8: a company to like sign off on you. It's expensive, 131 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 8: there's like a lot of kind of hoops you got 132 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 8: to jump through. So I just like worked and saved 133 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 8: up money and had a career up in Canada and 134 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 8: still do tour it a lot and had a lot 135 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:44,280 Speaker 8: of great experiences. But it was always like, as soon 136 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 8: as I could move to Nashville, I was going. 137 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 9: To do it. 138 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 1: So did you need someone in the States to like 139 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 1: co sign mm hmm, not even the term you use. 140 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 8: Kind of Yeah, I mean it's a process, right, they 141 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 8: have to like basically vouch for you that like they'll 142 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:02,479 Speaker 8: send you back if needed, and they're like low key 143 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 8: responsible for you and that they're going to supply you 144 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 8: with work. And so when I moved to town, like 145 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 8: I didn't really have that, and so you just started 146 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 8: like harassing anyone that would like make eye contact with 147 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 8: me and be like, listen to my song? Have you 148 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 8: heard my song? It was like this clock that was 149 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 8: counting down. 150 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: You moved here without that, Yeah, so you basically had 151 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: six months. It was like the numbers, dud, dude, it's 152 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: counting down. 153 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 5: Yeah. 154 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 8: I think it's like to play in the US, there's 155 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 8: a visa call the P two, which will kind of 156 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 8: like get you in for like one specific show. So 157 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 8: I think I had one of those at the time, 158 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 8: so didn't like raise any red flags. But that was 159 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 8: done and the clock had started, and I was like, okay, 160 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 8: I need to get a publishing deal essentially. 161 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: And how did you go by getting that? You moved here? 162 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 1: What was your apartment like, I'm always curious that people's 163 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: first Yeah, like the first like three months here, What 164 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: was your apartment like? And what were your first couple of, 165 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: you know, ventures out in the music world. 166 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 8: I lived in Midtown in one of like the little 167 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 8: apartments there. I cried like every day. I had no 168 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 8: friends and no, anybody, no roommate. 169 00:07:59,520 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 4: No. 170 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 8: I would listen to your guys show, actually, and I 171 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 8: listened to a ton of Bobby Cast and I felt 172 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 8: like you had the scoop on everything and I had 173 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 8: no friends, and so you. 174 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 7: Guys were I was your friend. 175 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 8: I just you are that, yes, yeah, but honestly it 176 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 8: was like anyone like you'd have one kind of friend. 177 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 8: I actually remember Hannah Ellis, who was an artist. I 178 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 8: had to write with her, and she invited me to 179 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 8: a party, I remember, and I was so scared and 180 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 8: I never forgot that she did that because I was like, 181 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 8: literally knew nobody was petrified and just rolled up. 182 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:35,439 Speaker 1: So how do you make friends with no? No, No, 183 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:36,679 Speaker 1: I've to do it. 184 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 5: It's hard to do. 185 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:39,559 Speaker 1: I just wonder how you did it here and all 186 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: your friends are probably also competing or trying for the 187 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 1: same goals you have. 188 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 8: Yeah, I would say, I mean it's hard. I remember 189 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 8: being like if you're at like a yoga class, you 190 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 8: just like be like hi, Like, I mean, I'm awkward 191 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 8: as it is, So I don't really know. I think 192 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 8: through like song writing, and then you meet kind of 193 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 8: one friend who introduces you to their friends and you 194 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 8: kind of click with people. But I find that Nashville's 195 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 8: pretty open. Like when I moved to Toronto, I made 196 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:06,559 Speaker 8: like one friend in like. 197 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 7: Two years, like I had the whole time you left 198 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 7: one friend? 199 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 8: Yeah, like one friend I could call. 200 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: Did you do the n S A I? And I say, 201 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: I deal on songwriters? Or how did you get your 202 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: friend rights? 203 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 8: I like I had just known a couple people through 204 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 8: Canada because I would come down here and write with 205 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 8: a couple of people, Like I knew Phil Barton and 206 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 8: knew like a few people. And then I went to 207 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 8: be and my I went to ask cap and just 208 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:33,319 Speaker 8: was like please, like just set me up with rights 209 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 8: and just started like compounding and then like can I 210 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 8: jump up with you and sing at the listening room 211 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 8: or can I do this? And just I felt like 212 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 8: really did everything I could to meet anyone, like going out, 213 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 8: if you were playing a show, I was gonna be there. 214 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 8: I was just trying to talk to people, and yeah, 215 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 8: I just needed to be able to stay. 216 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 9: Up. 217 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 1: Little food for yourself life. Oh it's pretty bad. 218 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 3: It's pretty beautiful, beautiful, laugh for. 219 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 8: A little more. 220 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 5: You're kicking it with four with Amy Brown. 221 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:36,079 Speaker 10: What is your first core principle. 222 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 2: I think my first one is and this is going 223 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,319 Speaker 2: to sound like I hope it doesn't come across like 224 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 2: I'm trying to be humble but making sure that I 225 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 2: live a life and service to others. And I think 226 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 2: that's certainly a core belief in my faith. Is a 227 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 2: Christian is that it's not about me. But I just 228 00:10:55,640 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 2: noticed that whenever I'm feeling most unhealthy, this is I'm 229 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 2: being selfish, but like there's too much that's about me, 230 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 2: too much, I'm worrying about myself. There's too much attention 231 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 2: on just things that are centered around me. And I 232 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 2: am happiest and I feel healthiest, and I feel like 233 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 2: I am serving God's purpose for my life when I 234 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:21,679 Speaker 2: am every day finding a way to serve someone else 235 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 2: big or small, like that could be in the simplest ways, 236 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:28,719 Speaker 2: whether it's serving someone on our team in like a 237 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 2: random act of encouragement or kindness, or whether it's something bigger. 238 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:35,959 Speaker 2: I mean, I think not to celebrate ten years or 239 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 2: however long we've been friends, but we were just saying 240 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:40,559 Speaker 2: it's been over a decade. I think where I've always 241 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 2: appreciated you is, you know, the foundation of our relationship 242 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 2: was on service and wanting to come together and do 243 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 2: something for others, and I think that's what we're all 244 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 2: called to do, you know. I think we kind of 245 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 2: not to sound critical of all the tools and resources 246 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 2: that are out there, but there's a lot of like 247 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:01,079 Speaker 2: self care, take care of yourself, for which I believe 248 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 2: there's a lot of validity and value in that. And 249 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 2: you can't pour into someone else if you've got an 250 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 2: empty cup. But I do believe that we're meant to 251 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 2: focus on others, and we're meant to focus on God's 252 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 2: will for our life. And that's kind of how I 253 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 2: start my day, is thinking how can I be a 254 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 2: service of someone other than myself. 255 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 10: I think that times where I've been on calls with 256 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 10: you and you've sounded just not your best are times 257 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 10: when you know that you haven't been prioritizing service or others, 258 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 10: and you eventually get there you're like, I don't know, 259 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 10: just something's just off, and then we'll talk for a 260 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:43,719 Speaker 10: little bit and you're like, yeah, it's just I've got 261 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 10: to figure out a way. Like right now, I'm just 262 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 10: so focused on this, this and this, and I don't 263 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 10: have time and it's just all about me and work 264 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 10: and this and that and strategy and what's next, what's next, 265 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:58,079 Speaker 10: and you eventually have the awareness like, oh, I need 266 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 10: to slow down and do something outside of this bubble 267 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 10: that I'm in right now. And I do think, yes, 268 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 10: there's absolutely something to putting your oxygen mask on first 269 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 10: before you take care of others. We do need to 270 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 10: do that. But I like that you brought that up, 271 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 10: because when you take time to be of service to others, 272 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 10: that could be your oxygen mask. 273 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 7: That could fill. 274 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 10: Up your tank a little bit. And you may not 275 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:30,439 Speaker 10: think that because it doesn't have anything to do with you. 276 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 10: It has to do with others. 277 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 5: Yeah. 278 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 2: No, And I'm so grateful, like you have been a 279 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 2: constant obviously in my life for many years. But I 280 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 2: think again, over this past year, I've realized, you know, 281 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 2: we've been building a business the last few years and 282 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 2: I've never done that before. And we've had some some 283 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 2: things go really right, which has been a blessing. But 284 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 2: in that it's kind of like you feel like you're 285 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 2: just trying to keep pushing things up the hill. And 286 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 2: I think my priorities at times have not been always 287 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:04,439 Speaker 2: in the right spot. But it is every conversation I've 288 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 2: had with you, there's always something that goes back to like, Man, 289 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 2: I mean I even started the group chat with you 290 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 2: and Walker because every time I'm around Walker, Walker Hayes 291 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 2: like his spirit for just loving on other people. It 292 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 2: is so genuine, sincere. You're like, hey, Walker, can we 293 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 2: do this for someone? And He's like, yep, I'll be there, 294 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 2: like I'm in and it just feeds my soul in 295 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 2: such a way, especially when you get to do it 296 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 2: alongside people you love, and then even more so bringing 297 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 2: strangers into the fold and you know, serving together. It's 298 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 2: just yeah, selfishly, it's amazing, and so I try to 299 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 2: do a little bit more of it every day. 300 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 10: So fun fact, if you are new to the podcast, 301 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 10: Walker Hayes is the singer of the theme song here, 302 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 10: and we are cooking up something different for the podcast 303 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 10: that is in the works And I'm even smiling as 304 00:14:57,840 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 10: I say it, and I wish I could say more 305 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 10: at the moment, but well, first of all, you and 306 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 10: I need to revisit that text thread with Walker because 307 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 10: we've got to figure out what we're doing. But also 308 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 10: I need Walker to put together a new little song. 309 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 2: We'll just send him a link to this episode and 310 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 2: he can kind of get the subliminal hint hint that 311 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 2: he needs to get to work on that. 312 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 11: Hey, it's Mike d and this week a Movie Mike's 313 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 11: Movie Podcast. I did my Desert Island movie bracket. I 314 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 11: took twelve movies and pitted them against each other to 315 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 11: decide if I could only take one movie with me 316 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 11: on a desert island, which movie would I want to 317 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 11: have with me. It was really hard for me to 318 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 11: do because the twelve I picked are all out classics. 319 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 11: So you can hear me debate that. I'll play you 320 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 11: just a clip of it now. We'll be sure to 321 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 11: check out the full episode of Movie Mike's Movie Podcast, 322 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 11: starting with the first matchup, Goodfellas coming in at two 323 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 11: hours in thirty two minutes versus Heavyweights coming in at 324 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 11: one hour and thirty five minutes. Both nineties classics in 325 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 11: their own regard, good Fellas is an all time classic, 326 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 11: my favorite Martin Scorsese movie. 327 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 5: You get everything. 328 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 11: You get the rise and fall, you get, the drugs, 329 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 11: you get, the betrayal, you get, murder, you get sex, 330 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 11: you get all the things that make a movie great. 331 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 11: So many iconic lines in This movie has my favorite 332 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 11: opening line to a movie of all time. Rayleiota Rip 333 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 11: gave his best performance in this movie, but then you 334 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 11: have Robert de Niro, Joe Peshi. Even the movie poster 335 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 11: itself is iconic. I would wear it on a T shirt, 336 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 11: I'd throw it up on a poster in my wall. 337 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 11: Has an amazing soundtrack and is one of the most 338 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 11: influential movies of the nineties. And it's also at a 339 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 11: really great runtime of two hours and twenty six minutes. 340 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 11: It's a movie that, back to that example of earlier, 341 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 11: you could jump around and catch it at any moment 342 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 11: and be so intrigued and so engaged because there are 343 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 11: so many different levels to storytelling and goodfellas. And on 344 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 11: the other hand, the reason I decided to include Heavyweights 345 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 11: on this list is because it is such a comforting movie. 346 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 11: One of my favorite movies growing up, because I was 347 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 11: a chunky kid and I loved seeing a story about 348 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:09,400 Speaker 11: other chunky kids and accepting just being yourself even though 349 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:12,120 Speaker 11: you're not the cool skinny kid. Because in Heavyweights, it's 350 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 11: all the chunky kids that are the cool kids, and 351 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 11: the skinny weirdos are the losers and why I decided 352 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 11: to include Heavyweights is I believe, if I'm stuck on 353 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 11: a desert island, I want something nostalgic. I want something 354 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 11: that is going to ease the pain of hunger in 355 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 11: my stomach, make me well. Even though they do eat 356 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 11: a lot of food in this movie. Maybe I didn't 357 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 11: think that all the way through, but I want something 358 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 11: to distract me from that, and the power of nostalgia 359 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 11: to put me back into my young mind and how 360 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 11: I was when I first watched this movie. I think 361 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 11: that is powerful. Whenever I need any kind of comfort, 362 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 11: I just go to like mid nineties Nickelodeon, live action 363 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 11: Disney movies from that time, Animated Disney movies from that time, 364 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 11: anything in that genre is instantly going to put me 365 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 11: into a good mood, back when life was still just 366 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 11: fun again and you experience things and didn't realize how 367 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 11: significant that was going to affect the rest of your life. 368 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 11: So that is why I put Heavyweights on this list 369 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 11: over any other animated or Disney movie. Heavyweights is the 370 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:11,439 Speaker 11: movie that does it for me. But we gotta look 371 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:14,479 Speaker 11: at this matchup here, good Fellas versus Heavyweights. I think 372 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:17,159 Speaker 11: I made that point about I'm gonna be hungry on 373 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 11: a desert island. I'll probably be surviving off of fish 374 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 11: and coconut and random plants and berries. And seeing the 375 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 11: heavyweights kids eat Twinkies on their pizza, sneaking beef jerky, 376 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 11: putting candy inside of hollowed out bedposts. I think that's 377 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,360 Speaker 11: gonna have an effect on me. And I also look 378 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 11: at Good Fellas with that two hour and twenty six 379 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:41,919 Speaker 11: run time. That is a lot of movie. That's a 380 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 11: lot of bang for your buck. It's a Martin Scorsese masterpiece. 381 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 11: Moving on to round two is gonna be good Fellas, 382 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:52,959 Speaker 11: and sadly going up in Flames is gonna be heavyweights, 383 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:57,120 Speaker 11: all right. Next match up in round one, The Dark 384 00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:00,159 Speaker 11: Night at two hours and thirty two minutes versus is 385 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 11: TMNT Secret of the Ooze coming in at one hour 386 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:08,879 Speaker 11: and thirty minutes, A tight packed in ninety minutes. The 387 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 11: Dark Knight has my favorite opening scene to any movie, 388 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 11: has a lot of my favorite superhero quotes. 389 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 4: Ah. 390 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:19,399 Speaker 11: That is a movie that just instantly sucks you in 391 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 11: from that opening scene, and that's why I love that 392 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 11: movie so much. And since two thousand and eight, out 393 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:27,120 Speaker 11: of any superhero movie. I think it's held up the 394 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 11: most because it doesn't even feel. 395 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 5: Dated at all to me. 396 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 11: That movie is cemented in not even two thousand and eight, 397 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 11: but just stands apart as being one of the best 398 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:41,640 Speaker 11: accomplishments from Christopher Nolan oh Man. That is a really 399 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 11: tough one because on any given day, that could be 400 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 11: my favorite movie of all time. 401 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 2: A couple movies. 402 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 11: Battled it out at one and two, and if you 403 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 11: put a gun to my head, I think I would 404 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 11: go Dark Knight over everything. But I have to think 405 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:57,199 Speaker 11: about the desert Island scenario. And I've already seen The 406 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 11: Dark Knight so many times. I rewatch it at least 407 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:03,640 Speaker 11: once a year at this point, sometimes twice a year. 408 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 5: So it's a. 409 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 11: Movie that I feel does have a lot of rewatchability 410 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 11: because I've proven it I've done it so many times. 411 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 11: But do I need to continue to watch it based 412 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 11: on the amount of times I've already seen it. That 413 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 11: is a tough one because it is just so great, 414 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 11: so perfect. Nothing bad I can say about that movie. 415 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 11: He's ledger everything about it. On the other hand, you 416 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 11: have kind of, like the earlier matchup, the complete opposite 417 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 11: of that. 418 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 5: Secret of the Ooze, which is the. 419 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:34,199 Speaker 11: Second TMNT movie ninety minutes of fun, incredibly nostalgic, my 420 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 11: favorite iteration of the Turtles, where it's the perfect combination 421 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 11: of comedy and then being the heroes that we need. 422 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 11: But there are some elements now as I watch this 423 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 11: more and more into my thirties, that I feel the 424 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 11: movie starts to date itself. Even though this was my 425 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 11: favorite TMNT movie growing up and it instantly puts me 426 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 11: back into a good mood. It would take my mind 427 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 11: away from anything going on in this desert island. I 428 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 11: could watch when I wake up in the morning to 429 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,120 Speaker 11: the sounds of waves crashing, or it could. 430 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 5: Comfort me at night. 431 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 11: The movie really has it all. 432 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 5: Oh. 433 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 11: I love Shredder and Secret of the Ewes, but I 434 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:12,400 Speaker 11: think if I had to go up against the Dark Knight, 435 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 11: it's really hard to beat it. And even though this 436 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:16,439 Speaker 11: is one of my favorite movies from my childhood, I 437 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 11: don't think it could beat the Dark Knight. So the 438 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 11: Dark Knight, We'll move on to round two, and sadly 439 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 11: Secret of the Ooze will go up in flames. 440 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 4: Carral Line, She's a Queen of talking and it was 441 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 4: a song. 442 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 5: She's getting really not afraid to face it's so soul. 443 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 5: Just let it flow. 444 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:53,120 Speaker 1: No one can do it quiet. Car Line. It's time 445 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 1: for Caroline. 446 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,400 Speaker 6: I'm just gonna keep making the good music and being 447 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 6: me and hopefully it keeps working. 448 00:21:58,960 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 5: You know, we'll see. 449 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 7: So what were you like growing up? 450 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 9: Because you started pursuing your career at age sixteen and 451 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 9: actually like doing it for real, which is way sooner 452 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 9: than most kids and young adults do. Most people are like, 453 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,640 Speaker 9: you know, dicking off for a long time before they 454 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 9: start like getting into something legit. But you were like focused, 455 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 9: ready to go, like pursuing this career at such a 456 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:19,680 Speaker 9: young age. 457 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 7: What were you like as a kid, Like, how did 458 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:22,400 Speaker 7: you even start this path? 459 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 5: Yeah? 460 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 7: What's your family like? Do you have siblings? 461 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 10: Yeah? 462 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 6: I have three siblings. I got a little sister, little brother, 463 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 6: and then our youngest sister. 464 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:32,399 Speaker 5: You're the oldest, the oldest. 465 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, And my family's cool. We're very tight knit family 466 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 6: still to this day. They're my best friends. I mean 467 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:39,920 Speaker 6: they are, yeah, yeah, for sure. 468 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 5: My siblings are. 469 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 2: No. 470 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 5: My dad actually lives down in Alabama. 471 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 6: My mom's back home with my sisters, and we're all 472 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:53,119 Speaker 6: really tight unit. But I guess me growing up, I 473 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 6: don't know, I'd say I was always kind of like. 474 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 7: Was your dad with you all growing up? Or did 475 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 7: he leave? 476 00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 5: He was? 477 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 6: He was with me early on in my career, So 478 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 6: it was like within the last few years that that's 479 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 6: all switched up. But which has been a transitional thing. 480 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 6: I talked about that a little bit and a couple 481 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 6: of songs on the album and thing. 482 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 7: Your parents got divorced? 483 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, like twenty twenty. 484 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 7: Unfortunately, is that hard as an adult to go through that? 485 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 6: I think that that was one of the weird things 486 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 6: is like, you know a lot of people that I 487 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 6: know where their parents aren't together. 488 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 5: It's just been that way. 489 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 6: It was a weird thing for me to be like 490 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,199 Speaker 6: twenty years old and then you know my siblings have 491 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 6: to go. 492 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 5: Through it too and have to be there for them. 493 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 6: So yeah, it was definitely not like the most typical 494 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 6: way I feel like of that going down. 495 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:31,439 Speaker 7: But were they like trying to wait for everyone to 496 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 7: grow up and then do it. 497 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 6: No, No, I was kind of just out of nowhere 498 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 6: thing like it just kind of you know, didn't work out, 499 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 6: and oh that's. 500 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 7: Hard at any time no matter what, you know, I'm 501 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 7: a parent now. 502 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,120 Speaker 9: So, like I understand, I have friends who are going 503 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 9: through divorces at the young age and stuff, and I 504 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 9: understand how things don't work out. But it's like when 505 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 9: you're the kid, no matter what your parents, whatever your 506 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 9: parents do, no matter what age you are, it's always 507 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 9: gonna Yeah. 508 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 6: I mean that's the thing too, is it just affects 509 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,679 Speaker 6: everybody all the way around the whole family in general. 510 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 5: You know you wrote about that. Yeah, yeah, I wrote 511 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 5: a song about it. 512 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 7: What's the song. 513 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 5: It's called Daddy Drinks Whiskey. Oh man, Yeah, it's pretty deep. 514 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 5: It's probably like the deepest song I ever put out. 515 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 7: So so it's about alcohol too. 516 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 5: Yeah. 517 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 7: Yeah, man, alcohol is a beast. 518 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 6: It is, and it's crazy because like it was never 519 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 6: like that in our house, like and then it just 520 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 6: kind of got out of hand. 521 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 5: A little bit. 522 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,120 Speaker 7: Yeah, the dark monster fortunately for really. 523 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,199 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's something that you always got your respect and 524 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 6: and make sure you can control because it can, you know, 525 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 6: it can mess things up pretty quickly, anything like that, 526 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:32,640 Speaker 6: any substance or anything. 527 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 5: You know, it's it's hard. 528 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 9: But what we were talking about, you have your family 529 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 9: heard that song? 530 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:40,479 Speaker 7: Has your dad heard it? 531 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 5: Oh? Yeah? Yeah, it's on the album. 532 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 6: I played it for all my family members before I 533 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,120 Speaker 6: even released it because I wanted to see it's their 534 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 6: story too, you know, and I wanted to see how 535 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 6: they They all cried and they all said, man, that's real, 536 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 6: and you should put it out of you know, it's 537 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 6: time for you to talk about it, because it's something. 538 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 6: Even with the song, like, I wanted to share my story, 539 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 6: but I also wanted you know, anybody else that goes 540 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 6: to those difficult things and has a family member or 541 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 6: a friend or you know, loved one that struggles with 542 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 6: addiction or you know, alcoholism, substance abuse, anything. I wanted to, like, 543 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 6: you know, share my story so people could feel okay 544 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 6: to talk about theirs because it can be an embarrassing thing, 545 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 6: can be something you want to yeah, you don't want 546 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 6: to like address, and then holding that back really hurts sometimes. 547 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 6: So to like put it out there, I hope that, 548 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,640 Speaker 6: you know, I would help everybody else who has similar. 549 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 5: Things and let them know they're not alone and they 550 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 5: can talk about it too. 551 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 7: I love that. 552 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's cool. 553 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 9: That's powerful of being so young to be able to 554 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 9: hit that topic too and share that with your. 555 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,120 Speaker 6: Age group mm hmm, definitely. I mean it's crazy. I've 556 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:45,439 Speaker 6: talked to a lot of people, even just on this 557 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 6: tour because we just started playing it. 558 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 7: Oh you're playing it live. 559 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 5: In the set list. 560 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, and it's like a pivotal moment of the set. 561 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:56,879 Speaker 6: I'd say it changes the whole vibe of the show. 562 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 5: In the room. And you know, we pick it back 563 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:00,399 Speaker 5: up pretty quick after that. 564 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:02,719 Speaker 7: But those are those songs that let people know you 565 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 7: as an artist exactly. You know, it's like, this is my. 566 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 9: Story, this is my life, and then people are like, dang, 567 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 9: this is my life too, and thank you for sharing 568 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 9: because it's very hard to talk about heart those kind 569 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 9: of topics and somebody has to be the voice for 570 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:15,439 Speaker 9: it so others can relate. 571 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's what I'm proud of about that one. 572 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 7: I'm proud of you. 573 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 6: Thank you, thank you. I appreciate that. But uh yeah, 574 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 6: I played it for all them. They cried and they said, 575 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 6: you know, your story to share too, if you're ready 576 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 6: to talk about it. It was written for probably like 577 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 6: a year and a half or so before we finally 578 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 6: released it. 579 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,680 Speaker 7: And and your dad said release it too. 580 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 5: Oh no, my dad didn't hear it until it came out. 581 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,640 Speaker 7: Okay, So okay, have you all talked since? 582 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 6: No, we don't talk very much. That's that's the other 583 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,439 Speaker 6: part about it. It's just kind of like, you know, 584 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 6: I'm ready to talk about it. Let people kind of 585 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 6: hear about what's been going on in my life and 586 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 6: have that relatability, you know, and understanding of, you know, 587 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 6: what my last four years is entailed, you know, just personally. 588 00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 6: So that's another story, you know, that I was just 589 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 6: waiting to share, and I'm finally glad that I did. 590 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the Sunday Sampler. New episodes arount weekly. 591 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 1: Go check them out. Have a great week, everybody,