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Speaker 1: and possible. Bold Prediction Season. Yes I don't wear a watch,

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Speaker 1: but when I check it anyway, it's a Bold Prediction season.

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Speaker 1: So here's how this works. In Bold Prediction season, we

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Speaker 1: don't get predictions from me. I wait until August to

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Speaker 1: give you my predictions. Instead, I put out the call

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Speaker 1: to you guys on Twitter. I put it out at

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Speaker 1: late kick Josh, it's still there, and I asked, what

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Speaker 1: are the boldest things that you believe will happen this

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Speaker 1: year that you'd be willing to put money on. Now,

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Speaker 1: I can't prove that you guys would actually bet this,

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Speaker 1: so it's just the old honor system. You claim that

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Speaker 1: you would bet these things. So here we go. First

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Speaker 1: bold prediction, Georgia beats Clemson. First Bowl prediction. Here, Georgia

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Speaker 1: beats Clemson by twenty eight or more. And this is

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Speaker 1: a Week one game. So to set the stage, this

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Speaker 1: is one of those kickoff games on a neutral field.

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Speaker 1: It's in Atlanta if you want to call that neutral,

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Speaker 1: but really it is here because Clemson and Georgia are

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Speaker 1: both like well within driving distance of Atlanta, so it's

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Speaker 1: not a massive advantage for either team, maybe slightly to Georgia.

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Speaker 1: Georgia right now at FanDuel A thirteen and a half

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Speaker 1: point favorite. Okay, so we have numbers on this game.

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Speaker 1: So Georgia winning by twenty eight or more. I think

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Speaker 1: that's about an eight point twenty five on the boldness scale.

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Speaker 1: Clemson hasn't been beaten this soundly since twenty thirteen, so

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Speaker 1: it's been over a decade since Clemson lost a game

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Speaker 1: by four touchdowns or more. What would have to happen here, Well,

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Speaker 1: obviously you got to have the game get pretty sideways,

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Speaker 1: Carson Beck goes off Clemson's offense stalls or maybe their

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Speaker 1: turnover pron light that were in Week one last year

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Speaker 1: against Duke. But with Georgia, you got to be careful

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Speaker 1: here because in those Week one games, we don't have

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Speaker 1: to go back too far. That Oregon game two years ago,

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Speaker 1: forty nine to three, just a total splattering of the

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Speaker 1: Sarah MacLaughlin special of Week one was Georgia versus Oregon. Georgia, also,

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Speaker 1: according to Stats and Info, beat four ranked teams by

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Speaker 1: twenty eight plus last year alone. So it's in their blood,

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Speaker 1: it's in their DNA to seek blood, and it could happen. Now,

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Speaker 1: if there's a team out there that's going to annihilate

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Speaker 1: you on national television and exposure in front of the world,

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Speaker 1: it would be Georgia in week one. Having said that,

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Speaker 1: Clemson's a really good team, man, it's a really big

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Speaker 1: deal that george is favored by thirteen and a half

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Speaker 1: against Clemson. Program Wise, Clemson is not a dog of

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Speaker 1: that caliber very often. The other thing to think about, though,

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Speaker 1: if we want to get morbid for just a second,

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Speaker 1: if this happens, if Clemson goes down like forty two

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Speaker 1: to thirteen or something like that in week one, do

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Speaker 1: you understand the kinds of conversations that would be surrounding

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Speaker 1: that program. And by the way, if anyone just tuned in,

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Speaker 1: like right now to the show, that's not a prediction

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Speaker 1: for me. I'm responding to a prediction. But the prediction

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Speaker 1: is Georgia beats Clemson by twenty eight plus. And I'm saying, Hey,

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's gonna happen. If it does happen, oh,

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Speaker 1: how uncomfortable does that get?

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Speaker 2: Hey?

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Speaker 1: Clemson's one of those teams bringing back head coach, both

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Speaker 1: coordinators and quarterback. That should be ingredients, along with upgrading

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Speaker 1: at the wide receiver position, which I believe they have

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Speaker 1: for kind of being shot out of a cannon in

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Speaker 1: week one and instead of if the cannon is shot

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Speaker 1: at you and you just get turned into street pizza,

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Speaker 1: that's not a good thing. So I'm gonna say eight

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Speaker 1: in a quarter because it's Georgia. I give them that

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Speaker 1: much respect. They actually could pull it off. It's an

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Speaker 1: eight and a quarter on the boldines scale. Next up,

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Speaker 1: let's go down to South Florida for a second. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure that the comment section will be totally respectful and

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Speaker 1: logical on this one. How about Miami bold prediction They

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Speaker 1: just flat out win the college football Playoff, Miami wins

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Speaker 1: a national championship. Well, this is a nine point five

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Speaker 1: on the boldness scale. It's really really hard to win

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Speaker 1: a national title, even if you're a favorite, it's really

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Speaker 1: hard to win a national title. Miami's not favorite to

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Speaker 1: win the national title. So what does the FanDuel situation

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Speaker 1: look like with them? Well, they've got the third best

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Speaker 1: odds to win the ACC They've got the around the

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Speaker 1: nineteenth best odds to win the college football playoff right now,

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Speaker 1: So that's kind of a long shot, but it also

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Speaker 1: suggests they've got a puncher's chance at it. It's a

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Speaker 1: nine and a half to me because of how hard

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Speaker 1: it is to make the playoff and to win it

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Speaker 1: the first year you've made it, and that's in the

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Speaker 1: four team era. Okay, so the twelve team era is

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Speaker 1: going to require you to make the playoff, which in

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Speaker 1: this staff's case and this team's case, would be for

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Speaker 1: the first time. Also, it would be Miami's first time

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Speaker 1: in the nationally relevant spotlight in quite a while. And

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Speaker 1: then they'd be asked to go win three or four

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Speaker 1: games in the playoffs. And it's just that kind of

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Speaker 1: rarefied air man, it's hard to breathe that for a

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Speaker 1: long time. It's like the first time climb in Everest, Like,

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Speaker 1: it's just there's a lot of stuff you're experiencing for

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Speaker 1: the first time.

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Speaker 2: Now, how could they do it well?

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Speaker 1: The way they could do it is cam Ward ends

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Speaker 1: up panning out and being an elite quarterback, because if

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Speaker 1: he is as good as he could be, they could

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Speaker 1: have the best quarterback situation in the ACC. They could

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Speaker 1: have one of the best offensive line situations in the ACC.

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Speaker 1: They've got a receiver room that, if cam Ward is

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Speaker 1: who he is, could really light things up in the ACC.

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Speaker 1: Damian Martinez. They just went and got the running back

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Speaker 1: from Oregon State. They've got both coordinators and head coach back.

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Speaker 1: There are paths where Miami that over underwent told on

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Speaker 1: nine and a half, where they go over that this year.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, if we're talking to percentages, it's one

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Speaker 1: thing for Miami to win ten games, which would be

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Speaker 1: a great year. It's another thing for them to win

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Speaker 1: ten plus games, go in the ACC and they go

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Speaker 1: knock off several teams in playoff games and win a

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Speaker 1: national title in one year. That's tough. It's doable, but

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Speaker 1: it's tough. So that's a nine and a half. Next up,

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Speaker 1: this one's a little more fun. Still bold, still bold here,

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Speaker 1: but we're going out to a rarely visited corner of

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Speaker 1: the college football universe. We're going to Lubbock, Texas. Bold

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Speaker 1: prediction Texas Tech wins the Big Twelve this fall. Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to put a nine and a quarter on

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Speaker 1: the boldness scale. It's bold, but it's the Big Twelve.

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Speaker 1: As Dan Hawkins once told us, it's the Big twelve,

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Speaker 1: he said it for a much different reason.

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Speaker 2: It ain't in our murals. It's the Big twelve.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it's the Big twelve, which basically just translates to

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Speaker 1: anything can happen literally. And now Texas and Oh You

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Speaker 1: are out of the conference. So the odds board's crazy.

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Speaker 1: A bunch of teams within reach that like reasonably could

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Speaker 1: have a shot to upset the Apple cart and win it.

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Speaker 1: So then we start to look at schedule. How could

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Speaker 1: Texas Tech pull this thing off? Well, they avoid four

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Speaker 1: of the top five odds teams in the Big Twelve.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't mean anything, especially when the odds are that tightly compacted.

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Speaker 1: All I'm trying to do in May is give you

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Speaker 1: a really, really broad sense of what the strength of

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Speaker 1: schedule is. They don't play the toughest strength of schedule

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Speaker 1: in the world. You remember last year Oklahoma State had

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Speaker 1: a really good draw. Well, this year Texas Texts got

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Speaker 1: a pretty good draw. They've got to keep their quarterback healthy.

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Speaker 1: You talked to Joey Maguire. One of the first things

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Speaker 1: he'll say is, I don't think I've ever had a

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Speaker 1: year where I had to play this many quarterbacks and

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Speaker 1: had this much upheaval because of injury in the quarterback

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Speaker 1: room as I did last year. Well, if they avoid

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Speaker 1: that this year, hey, things could happen. Now what would

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Speaker 1: concern me? And what makes this prediction so bold? I'm

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Speaker 1: going to make it a nine and a quarter on

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Speaker 1: the boldness scale. If I didn't already say that is Defensively,

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Speaker 1: they were kind of middle of the pack in the

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Speaker 1: conference last year and they lost a lot of production.

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Speaker 1: So I do wonder can you just go outscore everyone

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Speaker 1: and do that in route to a conference title? I

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00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 1: don't doubt you could upset people doing that, but can

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Speaker 1: you do that in root to a conference title? But

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Speaker 1: I come to this, I literally have this written on

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Speaker 1: the piece of paper in front of me. It's the

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Speaker 1: Big twelve. Okay, this right here. If it's gonna happen,

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Speaker 1: it happens in the Big Twelve. And Joey Maguire and company,

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Speaker 1: they've got really good energy out there. All you need

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Speaker 1: to do is check his Twitter account to know they've

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Speaker 1: got facility enhancements happening day over day. I think that

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Speaker 1: guy is working part time construction. The head coach at

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Speaker 1: Texas Tech could very well be coming to work with

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Speaker 1: a hard hat, but not metaphorically. I really do think

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Speaker 1: the guy is spending his mornings on the construction site,

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Speaker 1: and you know what, if he has more power to him.

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Speaker 1: It's something I've done in the past. I don't wish

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Speaker 1: to do it in the future, and I have immense

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Speaker 1: respect for you guys who do work in that industry

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Speaker 1: because I've been there before. Sheet Rockers. You want to

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Speaker 1: learn about life, hang out with the sheet rockers. If

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Speaker 1: you are young and impressionable and you have temporarily walked

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Speaker 1: away from college because you need to figure yourself out,

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Speaker 1: let me tell you how to get back in school.

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Speaker 1: Go hang out with the sheet rockers on construction sites,

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00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 1: because your boy did. I was working in ac installation

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Speaker 1: in summer in Georgia, but I was always close by

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Speaker 1: with the sheet rockers. Sheet Rockers are like pirate captains.

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Speaker 1: They are their own world. People who hang sheet rock

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Speaker 1: are awesome, but they are totally unique to any other

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Speaker 1: group of people in any other profession in the world.

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Speaker 1: The insights that you will get from sheet rockers are

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Speaker 1: mind blowing and they will put your jaw on the ground.

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Speaker 1: Unlike anything else that you've ever gotten. So anyway, I

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Speaker 1: don't know how I went from Texas Tech to sheetrocking,

625
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Speaker 1: but somehow it all made sense in my mind. Last

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Speaker 1: bold prediction here, Let's keep in mind the new climate

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Speaker 1: we're in. Okay, two undefeateds will play in the national

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Speaker 1: title game this year. Well, I'm gonna put a nine

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Speaker 1: point five as a boldness scale on that. Now, you

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Speaker 1: think to yourself, if you're following the sport closely, Josh,

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Speaker 1: that's dumb. Why would you say this is so bold

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Speaker 1: when four of the last six title games featured undefeated

633
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Speaker 1: teams wearing off. Well from a couple of reasons, and

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00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 1: they all both have to do with expansion. Conferences have

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Speaker 1: expanded and the playoff has expanded. So here's why. I

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Speaker 1: think that makes it a whole lot less likely undefeated

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Speaker 1: teams are going to face off in the national title game.

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Speaker 1: Your national championship teams are most likely coming from the

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Speaker 1: SEC or the Big Ten. Statistically, that's where they're most

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Speaker 1: likely to come from. Okay, the SEC just expanded again

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00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 1: and the conference schedule got that much tougher again. Big

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00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 1: Ten ditto, So those schedules have been made all the

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00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 1: more difficult. Therefore, it's a lot more likely that even

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Speaker 1: the teams making it out of those conferences aren't coming

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Speaker 1: out unscathed. And then you have an expanded playoff, so

646
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 1: you would think maybe, well, okay, but it doesn't matter

647
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 1: how big the field is. Like, if undefeated teams get

648
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: in the playoff, they're going to be undefeated throughout the

649
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 1: playoff if they keep winning their games. That's not what

650
00:31:56,400 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 1: I mean. What I mean is how many two lost

651
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 1: teams that could get red hot at the end of

652
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 1: the year are going to end up making it into

653
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 1: the playoff that otherwise never would have had a shot,

654
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 1: and they end up making a run in the playoff

655
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 1: like the LSU situation last year is the classic example.

656
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 1: Several Alabama teams in years past that just missed out

657
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 1: on the playoff Georgia this past year. Okay, if we

658
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 1: had a twelve team playoff is in the tournament and

659
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 1: they may go on to win the whole thing, will

660
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 1: there'd be a one lost team. That kind of scenario

661
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: is more likely now, so expansion, for several reasons has

662
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 1: made this less likely. Also, every SEC team faces at

663
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 1: least three Top twenty five college football playoff teams this year,

664
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 1: the SEC is gonna spit some playoff teams out at US.

665
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 1: I just don't know that they're going to be undefeated teams.

666
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 1: So I'm going to make that a nine point five

667
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 1: on the boldness scale. And remember, as I have tentatively promised,

668
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 1: depending on whether producer Jesse can ship them out or not,

669
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 1: anyone who makes a prediction that I label nine point

670
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: five or higher and it ends up hitting, I'm gonna

671
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 1: send you Childie of Supremacy. It's tough, but I'm gonna

672
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 1: do it.

673
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 2: I've got so I need to talk to you about.

674
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 1: The portal and then I'm gonna have Sarkle on the

675
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 1: show and it's gonna be really really good. So transfer

676
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 1: portals closed, portal windows closed. But there's still stuff going on,

677
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 1: and I haven't even talked to you since. For example,

678
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 1: Dominic Williams, the TCU defensive tackle, committed to not LSU,

679
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 1: but committed to Oklahoma, which prompted a lot of ire

680
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 1: from Baton Rouge. But this is a true freshman All

681
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 1: American from last year six two three twenty started every

682
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 1: game for TCU, and he's headed to Oklahoma, and Oklahoma

683
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 1: needed it for two reasons. Number One, they just need

684
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 1: big bodies on the interior. Number Two, you've got to

685
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 1: make sure folks understand. Forget about outsiders. You've got to

686
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: make sure people in your building and around your program understand, Yeah,

687
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 1: we're going to the SEC. We're gonna blend in in

688
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 1: the SEC. We're gonna do things. We're gonna be very aggressive.

689
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: We're gonna go about our business the way they go

690
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 1: about business in the SEC. And Brent Vnnables hasn't shied

691
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 1: away from that. Oklahoma hasn't shied away from that. And

692
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,479
Speaker 1: good on them because this is a really good addition

693
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 1: for them, and it was competitive. It was really competitive.

694
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 1: Oregon Not only did they land Peyton Woodyard, who's the

695
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:15,800
Speaker 1: dB from Alabama, but Derek Harmon, who was the defensive

696
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 1: tackle from Michigan State and Michigan States. It's bled some

697
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:22,879
Speaker 1: players here. They landed both of them. Oregon, by the way,

698
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 1: now with the number two transfer portal class in the

699
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 1: country after these pickups. Harmon was the top defensive tackle

700
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 1: in the portal and I have talked for it feels

701
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 1: like forever now about the depth and versatility that Oregon

702
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 1: is building on their defensive front, which is unique, and

703
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 1: no one else on the West Coast does it to

704
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 1: the degree they're doing it. And you've got to do

705
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,720
Speaker 1: it because when you talk about going to the playoff

706
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 1: or it just playing in the Big ten, and you

707
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:53,280
Speaker 1: get into your fifteenth or sixteenth game of the year,

708
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,879
Speaker 1: maybe your depth chart's not going to look the way

709
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 1: it looks in a preview magazine. And you've got to

710
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 1: have bodies, got to be able to lose a guy

711
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 1: or two and still be able to play at a

712
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 1: high level. And Oregon is affording themselves that ability. I

713
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 1: talked about Indiana earlier in the show. I don't know

714
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 1: that we've spoken about them much, but man, I gotta

715
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 1: give a little golf clap. We're indoors, so you got

716
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 1: to give golf claps indoors. But Kurt Signitti took the

717
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,399
Speaker 1: job at Indiana, and Kurt Signitti has found a way

718
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,399
Speaker 1: to overturn a lot of Indiana really quickly. They've had

719
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 1: thirty five guys leave via the portal. They've had thirty

720
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 1: guys come in via the portal. Do you understand what

721
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 1: percentage of your roster you just snapped your fingers and

722
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,359
Speaker 1: overturned That doesn't guarantee you though win a single game

723
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: this fall, but what it does guarantee is to look

724
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 1: a lot different and you hope for the better. For

725
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:43,840
Speaker 1: any kind of new staff, you hope for the better.

726
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 1: It's this totally new concept. Like they just landed CJ.

727
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 2: West.

728
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 1: That was a defensive tackle at Kent State, D'Angelo Ponds.

729
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 1: He was a corner at James Madison. They just brought

730
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 1: those guys in. This was not a situation where they're

731
00:35:57,880 --> 00:35:59,839
Speaker 1: just chilling at home and all of a sudden there's

732
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:01,839
Speaker 1: an knock on the door, Hey, can we come play

733
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: for you? These were competitive recruitments, innil recruitments, or portal recruitments,

734
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 1: whatever you want to call them. And I know that

735
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 1: anytime this day and age, when guys land players out

736
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 1: of the portal, if you didn't land them, all you

737
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 1: do is say, well, I mean all you did is

738
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 1: go buy them. Okay, Well, if it's that easy, you

739
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 1: go do it all right. This is Indiana. By the way,

740
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 1: we're not talking basketball either, So for Indiana football to

741
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 1: be making any kind of move, it warrants mentioned on

742
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 1: this show. That's all I'll say. Next up, I'm at

743
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 1: Texas Texas has made a move. Javion Cole was a

744
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 1: corner from San Jose State and they just brought him in.

745
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 2: You know, they had a guy leave via the portal.

746
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:39,359
Speaker 2: They have him come in.

747
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 1: Footwork and tackling first, two things that anybody who has

748
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 1: watched him play talks about. He was at San Jose

749
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 1: State and that staff left and now he's come here.

750
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 1: He had seven interceptions the past two seasons. And there's

751
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 1: no starting spot guaranteed.

752
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 2: You know.

753
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 1: I've talked to people around here today, for instance, and

754
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 1: they say, yeah, he's going to come in and we

755
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: expect him to compete for a starting job. My guess

756
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 1: is is he'll play a ton for Texas this fall.

757
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 1: But I can assure you he's here for the right

758
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 1: reasons and it's just another really good football player that

759
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 1: they can be selected with At Texas. They don't have

760
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: to operate out of desperation in that portal anymore. They

761
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 1: did once upon a time, and the portal was not

762
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 1: present like it is now when Sark first got here,

763
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 1: which he'll talk about a little later in the show.

764
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:29,280
Speaker 1: But that's a big deal for Texas and also Miami.

765
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 1: They added another one man Simeon Barrow, the defensive tackle

766
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,399
Speaker 1: from Michigan State, which is a theme. Defensive tackles leaving

767
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 1: Michigan State six three two ninety three years standout as

768
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 1: a starter up there. It's their twenty twenty four defensive

769
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,439
Speaker 1: line class in recruiting had six Blue Chippers, but those

770
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 1: are those are high school seniors essentially still, so they're

771
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 1: not all ready to just be plug and play. So

772
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 1: they needed a bridge body or two to get them

773
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 1: to where that class could be plugged in on the

774
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 1: too deep and this is a really big move. It's

775
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 1: the fifth portal edition for them. They still may not

776
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 1: be done. They are totally all in on this season.

777
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:10,479
Speaker 1: The energy, the mentality that Miami has about their twenty

778
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: twenty four year is the same one Ohio State has.

779
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 1: It's the same one Ole miss has. It doesn't mean

780
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 1: that we're going all in here and then whatever happens

781
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 1: in the future happens in the future. They're building for

782
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 1: the future, but they understand, whether the public thinks that

783
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:26,439
Speaker 1: or not, we got a window to do something really

784
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: big this year, and we will leave no stone unturned

785
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,399
Speaker 1: in trying to make sure that we jump right through

786
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 1: that window. So portal still pumping out newsworthy items. I

787
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 1: would encourage you guys to keep up with that for

788
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,759
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789
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790
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 1: earlier in the show, you can go look at Miami.

791
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 1: They got the third best odds to win the ACC. Okay, well,

792
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 1: if you think cam Ward is that good, if you

793
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:57,240
Speaker 1: think that the Simion Barrows addition is that impactful. Maybe

794
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: you think you're getting good odds over there, or maybe

795
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Speaker 1: you think my Miami is all smoking mirrors and there's

796
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 1: nothing to them. You could go bet Miami to miss

797
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 1: the college football playoff. They have those odds. I clap

798
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,880
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802
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:21,080
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807
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808
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,160
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Speaker 1: I appreciate you guys. If you're a Texas fan you've

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Speaker 1: further ado, here is our sit down with Texas head

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Speaker 1: coach Steve Sarkisian.

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Speaker 2: So I'm in Nashville. You're in Austin.

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Speaker 1: You've been here a few years now, and we're just

862
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Speaker 1: talking before we started about how wild it is.

863
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Speaker 2: When you choose where you want to live.

864
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Speaker 1: You can live out thirty minutes outside of town, you

865
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Speaker 1: live downtown, and how different the vibe is and like

866
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Speaker 1: you're a city guy.

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Speaker 2: You grew up in La so I mean.

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Speaker 1: Describe Austin because there are like fifteen high rises here

869
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Speaker 1: that I don't even remember being here.

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Speaker 4: Like five years' incredible, like going to me in year

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Speaker 4: four now, and the growth in this city has been

872
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Speaker 4: really incredible, whether it's the high rises, whether it's been

873
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Speaker 4: the food scene, whatever that looks like, I mean, it's

874
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Speaker 4: pretty awesome. But for me, like, we live about twelve

875
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Speaker 4: fifteen minutes just outside of downtown, so I have that

876
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Speaker 4: pretty good commute back and forth. I see Deer and

877
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Speaker 4: Fox every morning. But then here's downtown Austin.

878
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Speaker 2: And just a vibrant city right now.

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00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 1: It's really cool, and I mean you're kind of a

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Speaker 1: it so you don't talk like this. But outside the

881
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Speaker 1: football complex, when people started saying that, if I was

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Speaker 1: a realtor, I would say all that and I would say,

883
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Speaker 1: and you know, Texas football is kind of doing okay

884
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Speaker 1: as well, which I got to imagine is a nice

885
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Speaker 1: cherry on top selling point in that community. So I'm

886
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Speaker 1: going to thank you for them because they're not in

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Speaker 1: here today.

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Speaker 4: Well, but I'm thinking them too, because we use we

889
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Speaker 4: use the City of Austin recruiting for sure, because we

890
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 4: do have a different niche. I mean, how many how

891
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Speaker 4: many colleges are in a city of a million people

892
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Speaker 4: with no pro sports, so we don't have any NBA, NFL,

893
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Speaker 4: Major League Baseball. So we have this awesome city, but

894
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Speaker 4: yet it's still a college town and there's not, if

895
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 4: any other places in the country that are that way.

896
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Speaker 4: So the better Austin's doing and how vibrant and how

897
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Speaker 4: electric it is and how great business is and the

898
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Speaker 4: economy is, that's better for us too.

899
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Speaker 2: So I think it's a two way street for them.

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Speaker 2: How are so, how are you doing?

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Speaker 1: I remember when you got here a few years ago,

902
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Speaker 1: we had you on the show and you talked culture.

903
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Speaker 1: Then you talk culture. Now you got to hammer at

904
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Speaker 1: home every day. But I remember how much of a

905
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 1: work in progress it felt like it was.

906
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Speaker 2: And I'm not saying you've arrived, because no one's ever

907
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Speaker 2: arrived on that front.

908
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Speaker 1: But when you're around Texas now, when you talk to

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Speaker 1: people inside of Texas, when outsiders talk about Texas, the

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Speaker 1: tunes totally changed. And it's not just result oriented. The

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Speaker 1: results have been downstream. I would imagine if a lot

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Speaker 1: of stuff you guys have rewired.

913
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Speaker 4: Internally well, for sure, And sometimes I tap into some

914
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Speaker 4: of the nick sabanisms of his kind of stuff because

915
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Speaker 4: it was really impactful on me. But you know, if

916
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Speaker 4: you remember him, he always talked about the process, and

917
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Speaker 4: I don't really speak in it in that term, but

918
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Speaker 4: when you frame the question that way, like we're not

919
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Speaker 4: result oriented, you know, the byproduct of a really good culture,

920
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Speaker 4: the byproduct of recruiting you know, really well high, highly

921
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 4: talented kids, the byproduct of never sacrificing character for talent

922
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Speaker 4: in the people you bring into the organization, you know,

923
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Speaker 4: the byproduct of really living the adage of who you

924
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Speaker 4: are some of the time is who you are all

925
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Speaker 4: of the time. So what does that look like academically?

926
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Speaker 4: Who are you on our community? The byproduct of that

927
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Speaker 4: are some of the wins, and some of those wins

928
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 4: late right that you find a way to win those

929
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Speaker 4: games because you do have that culture.

930
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Speaker 2: And so I try to appreciate where we're at.

931
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Speaker 4: Because I think that's one of the things I made

932
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Speaker 4: a mistake about early in my career as the head coach,

933
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Speaker 4: was it was always onto.

934
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Speaker 2: The next, the next, the next.

935
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Speaker 4: So I've been a lot more appreciative of kind of

936
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Speaker 4: being where my feet are and understanding. Man, this has

937
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 4: been pretty cool. This has been a great journey right

938
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 4: from five and seven to the college football playoff and

939
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:48,359
Speaker 4: what that looked like along the way.

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Speaker 2: So I don't take that stuff for granted, I don't

941
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Speaker 2: take it lightly.

942
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Speaker 4: But yet the fire inside him is there's more to

943
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Speaker 4: go do, right, And I think that's the beauty of

944
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Speaker 4: what we get.

945
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Speaker 2: To do on a daily basis.

946
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Speaker 1: You mentioned in there that is probably more prevalent in

947
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Speaker 1: the portal era than just the classical recruiting era. You

948
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Speaker 1: said you cannot sacrifice the principles and integrity of the

949
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Speaker 1: program for talent, right. And I'm always really interested when

950
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Speaker 1: coaches talk about this because you guys can say that,

951
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Speaker 1: especially early in their career.

952
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Speaker 2: Guys could say that in January or February or whatnot.

953
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Speaker 1: But when it comes time to make a call on

954
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Speaker 1: a guy that talent wise could potentially alter the trajectory

955
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Speaker 1: of your season. But you understand, this guy doesn't hit

956
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:34,760
Speaker 1: critical factors from the neck up standpoint.

957
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:35,879
Speaker 2: Like you got to make that call.

958
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Speaker 1: So how difficult sometimes is that call when he's got

959
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 1: every intangible I need from a physical standpoint.

960
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Speaker 2: But there's something missing from the neck up. Well, I

961
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 2: think there's a couple of things to that. You know.

962
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Speaker 4: One, we're at a space now in year four. We

963
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Speaker 4: don't have to take as many risks early on. When

964
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 4: you come in and you're five and seven, you're probably

965
00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 4: taking a few more risks. You're probably saying, Okay, I

966
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 4: see the talent. There might be some marginal character in here,

967
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Speaker 4: but who else is it? Because we're having a hard

968
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Speaker 4: time recruiting player X, Y and Z who have it all,

969
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 4: who are all buttoned up, and so you take a

970
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 4: few more risks early on. Now in year four, we

971
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 4: don't have to take those risks. And the beauty of

972
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 4: not having to take those risks is this. I've got

973
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Speaker 4: one hundred and twenty eighteen to twenty two year old

974
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 4: sons on our team, and as great a character as

975
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Speaker 4: we are, not every one of them are.

976
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Speaker 2: They're going to make some mistakes. I was in college,

977
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 2: We were in college. You know. That's the way it goes.

978
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 4: And so if you can minimize some of that going

979
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:39,959
Speaker 4: into it, I think the better off. Because the kids

980
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 4: that really truly expose themselves, that don't have the great character,

981
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:46,360
Speaker 4: I don't know if they're going to be the reason

982
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:49,319
Speaker 4: why you win a championship. They might help you win

983
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 4: a couple of games here and there, but they'll surely

984
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 4: contribute to the reason of why your program and your

985
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 4: culture in your locker room falls apart.

986
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:00,720
Speaker 2: And that's how it spreads. It can spread one person

987
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:02,959
Speaker 2: so quickly. So we are we.

988
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 4: Do our due diligence on that, and I think we can.

989
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 4: I think we've earned that now. And so when you

990
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 4: make that decision, it's, you know, again, I feel like

991
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 4: we don't have to take too big a risks, And

992
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 4: that's where my judgment comes in, and my judgment kicks

993
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:20,959
Speaker 4: into what is his true character as opposed it maybe

994
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,799
Speaker 4: didn't make a mistake or two, and that's where you

995
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 4: got to kind of draw that line. And hopefully you

996
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 4: know him well enough, you know the family well enough,

997
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 4: you know the high school coach well enough to where

998
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:32,720
Speaker 4: you can get to the bottom of that to make

999
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 4: a consciously good decision.

1000
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:36,839
Speaker 1: I was looking back at some of our notes when

1001
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 1: you first got here, about what we were saying on

1002
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 1: the show about Texas in the spring, and I remembered

1003
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 1: I had my memory jogged. There was a time not

1004
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 1: too long ago where you guys couldn't even do spring

1005
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 1: games as you wanted because the depth chart was a wreck.

1006
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 1: And now this past spring, you guys had one of

1007
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:57,319
Speaker 1: the most entertaining spring games because you could go at

1008
00:48:57,360 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 1: it the way you want to. Can you please, like

1009
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 1: Layman's terms for the folks at home and me, describe

1010
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 1: how different the depth is here compared to what you inherited.

1011
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:07,839
Speaker 2: Well, just that was year one.

1012
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 4: Year two, we couldn't play a spring game, and the

1013
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:14,280
Speaker 4: reason was I would have seven, maybe eight offensive lineman

1014
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 4: total that could physically go compete in a game. This

1015
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 4: year in spring practice we had seventeen to nineteen to twenty.

1016
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:27,879
Speaker 4: I mean when you start adding up the walk ons

1017
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 4: and so on and so forth. So now you can

1018
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:32,320
Speaker 4: play a real game. And that goes across the board,

1019
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 4: whether it's having enough receivers, having enough defensive lineman. Now,

1020
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 4: I think a couple things have contributed that. One, I

1021
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:42,479
Speaker 4: think we've structured our roster in a way to where

1022
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 4: we have equality in depth across the board. It's not

1023
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 4: just one or two position groups that are loaded. We've

1024
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 4: kind of assembled it in a way that is lateral.

1025
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 4: But two, I think the portal has helped that where

1026
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 4: you can bring some players in midyear to get your

1027
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 4: self in the right.

1028
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 2: Space for spring practice.

1029
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 4: But the other thing that's changed a lot in college

1030
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:08,359
Speaker 4: football that people aren't talking as much about. More and

1031
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 4: more kids are graduating high school early. More and more

1032
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 4: kids are graduating you know, they're signing in December, and

1033
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 4: they're showing up on your campus in January. We had

1034
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 4: eighteen freshmen show up in January who should still be

1035
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 4: in high school, that are now competing in spring practice,

1036
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 4: that are competing in winter conditioning drills, that are getting

1037
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 4: a semester of school under their belt, which I think

1038
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 4: is huge for us because as you look ahead into

1039
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 4: this season and why depth is so important, We're going

1040
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 4: to play our first game August thirty first, which is

1041
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:44,840
Speaker 4: really early in college football world. The national championships not

1042
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:48,400
Speaker 4: till January twentieth, and we're not getting that month off

1043
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:51,400
Speaker 4: like you would in December. Because of the College Football Playoff,

1044
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 4: you may have to play sixteen seventeen games.

1045
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 2: We are going to need all the depth that we

1046
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:57,360
Speaker 2: can have.

1047
00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 4: And to generate, and we're gonna have to play young

1048
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 4: players early to try to be at our best.

1049
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 1: After Thanksgiving, I think when guys talk about how relentless

1050
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 1: you have to be in recruiting. It goes overheads sometimes

1051
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 1: because the general public is used to being conditioned in

1052
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 1: preview magazine fashion. Right right when the preview magazine comes out,

1053
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 1: everybody's healthy and you're starting twenty two look great, and

1054
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 1: preseason expectations are based on that. But then what you're

1055
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:27,800
Speaker 1: talking about is by the time week two of November

1056
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 1: is there, there's red sharpy all throughout that depth chart,

1057
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 1: and then you add in that you may have to

1058
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 1: play one or two games on top of what you

1059
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 1: used to have to play to win a title.

1060
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Speaker 2: You can't forecast injury.

1061
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 1: But like how relentless and like how up late at

1062
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 1: night do you have to be sometimes mentally to make

1063
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 1: sure we are stocked at these positions, knowing the inevitable's

1064
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:50,840
Speaker 1: coming but not knowing where it's coming.

1065
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 4: Well, I think that, and I think the other thing

1066
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 4: is making sure that you're versatile enough twofold. Are you

1067
00:51:56,320 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 4: recruiting versatile enough players, guys that can play multiple positions

1068
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 4: so that you can get your best players on the field,

1069
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 4: whether it's in the secondary, on the defensive line, front,

1070
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:09,279
Speaker 4: your tight ends, things of that nature and then two,

1071
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 4: are you versatile enough schematically as a staff to utilize

1072
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:16,880
Speaker 4: the personnel that is available to you in December, because

1073
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:18,360
Speaker 4: it's not going to be the same as it was

1074
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Speaker 4: in August.

1075
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:20,439
Speaker 2: And so the idea that.

1076
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 4: Maybe we need to be in more twelve personnel, or

1077
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:25,360
Speaker 4: maybe we need to be in more two back, or

1078
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:27,400
Speaker 4: maybe we need to be in more eleven, or maybe

1079
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 4: we need to need to play nickel and dime on

1080
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 4: defense and base defenses out the.

1081
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:33,440
Speaker 2: Window or all our dvs are shot?

1082
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 4: Do you have the ability to play more base defense

1083
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 4: even versus some of the eleven personnel stuff?

1084
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 2: Like you got it?

1085
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:42,320
Speaker 4: We have to be versatile that way as a staff,

1086
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 4: and we can't just get versus versatile in November and December.

1087
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 4: We have to prepare our players for that stuff in

1088
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 4: August as we're going through training camp, to get ready

1089
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 4: so that if we have to go down a different road,

1090
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 4: they've been exposed to it. You know, maybe you've got

1091
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:00,360
Speaker 4: a joh A Barron who plays nickel for us, I

1092
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 4: need him to play corner or safety. Well, we need

1093
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:05,759
Speaker 4: to expose him to those things in training camps so

1094
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 4: that if we do that, he's comfortable enough to do it.

1095
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 1: Do you think you'll ever have a better quarterback situation

1096
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 1: going forward than you have right now? Where folks are

1097
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:19,280
Speaker 1: terrified elsewhere in the country.

1098
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 2: First off, their.

1099
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:22,399
Speaker 1: Guy may not be good enough, but if their guy

1100
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 1: goes down, they're screwed.

1101
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 2: And you're sitting here with arch Man. He got a

1102
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:27,479
Speaker 2: good quarterback room.

1103
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 1: And I've been able to describe you that way multiple

1104
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 1: years now.

1105
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 2: How sweet is that? It's awesome?

1106
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 4: You know, it's the most difficult and the most important

1107
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 4: position in sports for a reason, right, you know, you

1108
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:46,400
Speaker 4: just think about the great teams. Very few great teams

1109
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:50,399
Speaker 4: have won championships NFL, college, high school. We've all we've

1110
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 4: been covering this sport forever that didn't have a really

1111
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 4: good quarterback. And he may not always be the most talented,

1112
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 4: but he was the leader, or he was the toughest,

1113
00:53:58,280 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 4: or he was the guy that.

1114
00:53:59,080 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 2: Everyone could count on.

1115
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:05,840
Speaker 4: Like that position encompasses so much that we recruit it

1116
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:07,839
Speaker 4: that way. We recruit it as if it's the most

1117
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 4: important position, and it's not always about the talent. It's not,

1118
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 4: you know, playing quarterback and being a great quarterback is

1119
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 4: not about how far you throw it or how well

1120
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:19,800
Speaker 4: you throw a slant route. That's a piece to the puzzle.

1121
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 4: What type of leader are you? What type of work

1122
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 4: ethic do you have? How do you relate to everybody

1123
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:26,880
Speaker 4: in that locker room? How do you relate to your community?

1124
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:32,720
Speaker 4: Do you instill believe in every person in our building

1125
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:34,759
Speaker 4: when we go take the field that we are going

1126
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 4: to win this game. That's what the greatest quarterbacks have

1127
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 4: and that's what we try to look for in recruiting,

1128
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 4: and then that's what we try to develop when we

1129
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:45,359
Speaker 4: get them when we get them here, and we've had

1130
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:47,760
Speaker 4: we've had a decent amount of success over the years,

1131
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 4: and I think this is another great room. Having Quinn

1132
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:53,280
Speaker 4: back for his third year is huge. Watching his growth

1133
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 4: and maturation over three years has been incredible, just looking

1134
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 4: at Arch from year one to year two and to

1135
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 4: see how far and then we've got a young player

1136
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 4: in Trail and so we think is going to be

1137
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:06,680
Speaker 4: a really good player as well. So we liked the room.

1138
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:09,239
Speaker 4: You know, you knock on wood. You hope you don't

1139
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:10,799
Speaker 4: have to, you don't have to go to all those

1140
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:13,399
Speaker 4: guys on the depth chart, but a year ago we did,

1141
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:14,920
Speaker 4: and we were able to find a way to win

1142
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 4: a couple games with a backup quarterback starting go.

1143
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 2: Back last year.

1144
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 1: Really the last two years, you guys played Bama in

1145
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 1: a home and home and we're at both games, electric atmospheres,

1146
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:28,799
Speaker 1: both times, close game here, it goes their way, but

1147
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:31,319
Speaker 1: then you go there a year later and they don't

1148
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:33,880
Speaker 1: hand you a trophy for a regular season win. But

1149
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 1: I mean, I remember talking to Josh Haipel about when

1150
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:38,719
Speaker 1: they beat them at Tennessee a couple of years ago

1151
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:42,360
Speaker 1: and how seminal a moment it was for the energy

1152
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 1: of the fan base and for the messaging of how

1153
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 1: we can sell our program. There's no more projecting. We're

1154
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:50,279
Speaker 1: showing you like we can do it. We can take

1155
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:54,279
Speaker 1: down the best of the best. From that standpoint, what

1156
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 1: kind of effect did that win on the road last

1157
00:55:56,760 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 1: year have on just the organization and then the scope

1158
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 1: of Texas football overall.

1159
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:02,880
Speaker 2: Well, I think it was.

1160
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 4: It was big, you know, you know, I had to

1161
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:09,919
Speaker 4: put it into perspective for some of our players even

1162
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:12,759
Speaker 4: to think when we went in there that night, they

1163
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 4: were fifty two to one in their previous fifty three

1164
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:18,880
Speaker 4: games at home under coach Saban and the only loss

1165
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:21,880
Speaker 4: was to Joe Burrow and LSU the national champion, and

1166
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:25,239
Speaker 4: I was on that sideline with Alabama. To think Nick

1167
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:29,279
Speaker 4: Saban's never gotten beat at home by double digits in

1168
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 4: eighteen years until that game. To think that was the

1169
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 4: first non conference team to.

1170
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 2: Go in there and beat them in over a decade.

1171
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 4: So there was there was a lot of like to

1172
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:41,880
Speaker 4: put it into perspective for our players, I think was huge,

1173
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 4: But more importantly, I think for us, you know, we've

1174
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 4: I think over the last decade and decade and a half,

1175
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:51,800
Speaker 4: there's been some great teams that have come into DKR and.

1176
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:54,759
Speaker 2: Texas has played them well and won, you know, their

1177
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:55,360
Speaker 2: fair share.

1178
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:58,839
Speaker 4: But to go on the road into the SEC where

1179
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 4: we're headed, to play the team that has dominated that

1180
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 4: conference over the last you know, two decades, and to

1181
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 4: go win that game in that fashion, And also because

1182
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:11,319
Speaker 4: I think it was important too, That's where I had

1183
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:14,440
Speaker 4: come from, you know, and that the fact of this

1184
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 4: is what we were trying to build to go compete

1185
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 4: with those teams. Before we even knew we were going

1186
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 4: to the SEC, we said we had to build a

1187
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 4: team that could beat Alabama, Georgia, Ohio State, Clemson, Notre Dame,

1188
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 4: the teams that are historically in the college Football Playoff

1189
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:33,240
Speaker 4: and the fact that we could assemble a team that

1190
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 4: could go on the road in a hostile environ at

1191
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 4: night in Tuscaloosa beat that team. And then I laughed

1192
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 4: when everyone said, well, it's not the same Alabama anymore. Well,

1193
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 4: they were in the college Football Playoff again, and we're

1194
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 4: a play away from playing for another national championship. So

1195
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 4: you know, year in and year out, that's the consistency

1196
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 4: that coach Saban has had gotten that program too. That's

1197
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 4: obviously what we're striving for, but I think it was

1198
00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 4: it was a great check mark on our journey for

1199
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 4: a lot of people. To look back at that game,

1200
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 4: I was like, Okay, now we've assembled the team the

1201
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 4: culture that can go achieve that. Now how do we

1202
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 4: find that level of consistency to do it year in and

1203
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:10,919
Speaker 4: year out.

1204
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 1: What was your immediate reaction when you heard about Nick

1205
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:14,680
Speaker 1: Saban's retirement.

1206
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 2: I was a wild day.

1207
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:21,040
Speaker 4: I can't remember the order, but it was Nick Saban

1208
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:24,480
Speaker 4: and Pete Carroll on the same day, And for me,

1209
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 4: those were two men that completely impacted not only my

1210
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 4: coaching career, but me as a man.

1211
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 3: Uh.

1212
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 4: You know, I had worked for for Pee Carroll for

1213
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 4: seven years and and he really got me into the industry.

1214
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:40,160
Speaker 4: I ga'd for him, and then you know, I kind

1215
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 4: of worked my way worked my way up with him.

1216
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 4: And then Coach Saban when I was out of work,

1217
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 4: you know, him him extended an olive branch to me

1218
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 4: to to get me back into it as an analyst,

1219
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 4: brought me back as a coordinator. So there were both

1220
00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 4: those guys were really impactful to me. And so I

1221
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 4: wasn't I want to say, I wasn't surprised because I

1222
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 4: know Coach Saban doesn't do anything on a whim, right,

1223
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:08,720
Speaker 4: He's a thoughtful man, and neither of those guys, and.

1224
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 2: So when it occurred, he just felt like it was

1225
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 2: the time.

1226
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:15,560
Speaker 4: It was still hard to kind of chew on even today,

1227
00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 4: I'll be honest with you, it's hard to kind of

1228
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 4: chew on.

1229
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:18,920
Speaker 2: That, you know. And I love Kaylan.

1230
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 4: Kaylin's an awesome coach, you know, and he's done a

1231
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 4: fantastic job. But not being the straw hat at practice

1232
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 4: for Alabama is I think gonna take time for everybody

1233
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 4: and and so, but love him to death. I know

1234
00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:33,960
Speaker 4: he's doing great. I talked to him, you know, I

1235
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:36,120
Speaker 4: talked to him, you know quite you know, periodically, and

1236
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 4: still bounce ideas off him. You know, he's still the

1237
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 4: goat in my opinion. So but I know he's doing

1238
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:45,440
Speaker 4: great and he it was fun to watch him do

1239
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 4: in the NFL Draft. He just looks so relaxed, like

1240
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:51,800
Speaker 4: like he's been doing it his whole life. I'm like

1241
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 4: this guy, but that's him. You know, he's always gonna

1242
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 4: work at his craft to be the best at what

1243
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:56,160
Speaker 4: he does.

1244
00:59:57,680 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 2: I don't I'll be interested if you think this way.

1245
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 1: So, he had a really big voice in the room

1246
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 1: for head coaches period, especially SEC coaches, and I'm not

1247
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 1: saying that he won't, but he's no longer an active

1248
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:11,640
Speaker 1: head coach. And so like when you guys are on

1249
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 1: coaches meetings when you're in Destin later this month, just

1250
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 1: when you're talking about pressing matters at hand, that voice

1251
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:22,000
Speaker 1: that used to be the one everyone's kind of looking

1252
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:23,920
Speaker 1: to the left or right waiting to speak up may

1253
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:26,560
Speaker 1: not be there anymore. And you got a full plate

1254
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 1: running Texas football. Do you view your role as being

1255
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 1: at one of the major programs to speak above and

1256
01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:36,960
Speaker 1: beyond Texas like to speak for the betterment of college

1257
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:40,200
Speaker 1: athletics or can you even afford to spend time on that.

1258
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:44,120
Speaker 2: I guess that's a fine line there.

1259
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:47,520
Speaker 4: I definitely I love college football and I mean that,

1260
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:50,080
Speaker 4: and I've never wavered off of that. Like, we have

1261
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 4: an awesome sport, and we have a sport that captivate

1262
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:57,600
Speaker 4: that captivates our country not just every Saturday, but for

1263
01:00:57,760 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 4: months at a time, and they're so much pride in

1264
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:04,680
Speaker 4: what we do, and the regular season matters and it counts,

1265
01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:08,440
Speaker 4: and the fan bases. It's an incredible sport and to me,

1266
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:09,840
Speaker 4: it's at an all.

1267
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:10,640
Speaker 2: Time high right now.

1268
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:14,040
Speaker 4: I mean, what people are loving about college football, the ratings,

1269
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:16,560
Speaker 4: it's incredible. And I know we've got a lot of

1270
01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:22,760
Speaker 4: moving parts right now, and whether it's the portal conference realignment, nil, whatever,

1271
01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 4: you know, all this stuff that's that's potential revenue sharing,

1272
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:27,760
Speaker 4: what is all this going to look like? But in

1273
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:30,439
Speaker 4: the end, we still have an amazing sport. And that's

1274
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:34,120
Speaker 4: my big thing of like everybody's going to complain. One

1275
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:35,400
Speaker 4: size is going to be play and the other side

1276
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:37,680
Speaker 4: is going to complain. And I try to get back to, hey,

1277
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:40,480
Speaker 4: we got it pretty good. We've got it pretty good

1278
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:45,080
Speaker 4: right now, and so I try to look at it

1279
01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:47,880
Speaker 4: from a ten thousand foot view as much as I can,

1280
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 4: and then where are we in that? And then how

1281
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:53,880
Speaker 4: does that affect the University of Texas and how do

1282
01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:55,440
Speaker 4: I kind of do both?

1283
01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 2: But coach Sagan was.

1284
01:01:57,720 --> 01:01:59,680
Speaker 4: Great at that, you know, I always say, you know

1285
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 4: he he looked at it from a ten thousand foot view,

1286
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:05,240
Speaker 4: but the Crimson Tide was on his mind, everything that

1287
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:07,800
Speaker 4: he was suggesting, you know, in the end. And I

1288
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 4: think Kirby has gotten into that space now, you know,

1289
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:13,080
Speaker 4: he's earned that, He's done a great job and what

1290
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:16,920
Speaker 4: he's done at Georgia. I think Brian Kelly in our

1291
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:19,480
Speaker 4: own conference because of his experience and how long he's

1292
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:21,360
Speaker 4: been doing it. So there's a lot of coaches and

1293
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:24,680
Speaker 4: everybody's perspective is different. You know, Lane's perspective is totally

1294
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 4: different at an old miss as compared to you know,

1295
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:31,439
Speaker 4: where Brian Kelly's is at LSU or Mind for that matter,

1296
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:34,400
Speaker 4: or Kirby's. Kaylin de Bor's perspective is going to be

1297
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:37,480
Speaker 4: totally different now having now just getting to Alabama. So

1298
01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:39,640
Speaker 4: I think those ideas and there's a lot of smart

1299
01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:43,040
Speaker 4: people in that room for us sharing those ideas and

1300
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:45,560
Speaker 4: then getting to a common ground where we're like, Okay,

1301
01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:48,960
Speaker 4: this is in the best interests of college football. Sometimes

1302
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:52,000
Speaker 4: it's not always in the best interests of Texas, but

1303
01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:54,280
Speaker 4: it's in the best interests of college football.

1304
01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:56,000
Speaker 2: So let's move forward with that.

1305
01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:58,880
Speaker 4: There's other times you stand on that hill and you

1306
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:01,040
Speaker 4: fight for the thing that you believe in because you know,

1307
01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:03,360
Speaker 4: I really don't want to give that up, and so

1308
01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:06,440
Speaker 4: that's but that's the beauty of being in the Southeastern

1309
01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:11,320
Speaker 4: Conference and Commissioner Saki and his leadership, but also the

1310
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:13,840
Speaker 4: men in that room as coaches and the expertise that

1311
01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 4: they have.

1312
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:19,040
Speaker 1: I think about when you were at Bama and where

1313
01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:22,440
Speaker 1: you are now, and not that there's a lot of

1314
01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:26,040
Speaker 1: historical precedent because like, no one has your exact story,

1315
01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:30,480
Speaker 1: but historically, let's just say broad strokes purposes, someone is

1316
01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:34,200
Speaker 1: taking the path that you took. Typically there would be

1317
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:38,680
Speaker 1: a stop between Bama and Texas, maybe like a G

1318
01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 1: five head coaching job, maybe a lower level P four

1319
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:45,240
Speaker 1: now coaching job. But you went Bama to Texas and

1320
01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:48,440
Speaker 1: then the entire sport changed. And now I look at

1321
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:51,640
Speaker 1: the plight of G five head coaches where the better

1322
01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:53,960
Speaker 1: they do, the more likely maybe their roster is to

1323
01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:56,320
Speaker 1: get raided post spring, like there's nothing to do about it,

1324
01:03:56,560 --> 01:03:59,600
Speaker 1: and you store your hands up. I mean, you're in

1325
01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 1: one of the most blessed positions in college football, not

1326
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:04,120
Speaker 1: just because you get to do what you love, but

1327
01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:05,560
Speaker 1: you get to do what you love at one of

1328
01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:08,600
Speaker 1: the premiere programs in America. Do you ever I know

1329
01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:10,160
Speaker 1: you talk to some of them, but do you ever,

1330
01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:14,240
Speaker 1: like think, man, how would my operation and approach have

1331
01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:16,840
Speaker 1: to be different if I was on this rung of

1332
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:18,240
Speaker 1: the ladder instead of the rung I'm on.

1333
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:22,760
Speaker 4: No doubt like I it literally I got the job

1334
01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:26,280
Speaker 4: here in college football started to change. Like I remember

1335
01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:29,160
Speaker 4: thinking to myself after when I first got here, we

1336
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:31,680
Speaker 4: didn't have the portal, the transport. I'm like, man, that

1337
01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:33,920
Speaker 4: would have been nice to have had. You know, we

1338
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:36,920
Speaker 4: went into the season under number of scholarships. We just

1339
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:40,240
Speaker 4: didn't because we couldn't replenish at Texas. Yeah, we couldn't

1340
01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:43,800
Speaker 4: replenish because so many guys had left and declared for

1341
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:46,840
Speaker 4: the draft and transferred and then they were capping you

1342
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:49,640
Speaker 4: at twenty five. I couldn't bring in enough players. I

1343
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:51,560
Speaker 4: was just reflect on that it would have been a

1344
01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:55,080
Speaker 4: lot nicer if I had that. But also I shift gears,

1345
01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:57,200
Speaker 4: and I do talk to buddies of mine that are

1346
01:04:57,320 --> 01:05:00,720
Speaker 4: coaches at those places, and the idea that year in

1347
01:05:00,760 --> 01:05:04,200
Speaker 4: and year out, they're on this like they're on like

1348
01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:08,520
Speaker 4: a ladder of Okay, here's two four, six of my

1349
01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:11,960
Speaker 4: better players that are literally getting recruited off my team

1350
01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:16,920
Speaker 4: from other schools because you know, allegedly people don't free portal, right,

1351
01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:20,400
Speaker 4: but the reality is that's what's happening. Okay, So how

1352
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:21,880
Speaker 4: do they then manage all?

1353
01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:22,120
Speaker 2: Right?

1354
01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:25,600
Speaker 4: There they go recruiting high school, but then they're looking

1355
01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:29,600
Speaker 4: too of maybe who's on the on our rosters at

1356
01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:32,840
Speaker 4: this level, of guys that want the opportunity to play.

1357
01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:36,080
Speaker 4: I think that's important too. It's like we've all got

1358
01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:39,600
Speaker 4: pretty good players, only so many of them can play.

1359
01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:42,560
Speaker 4: And now as guys get a little older, junior seniors,

1360
01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:44,720
Speaker 4: they're just looking for an opportunity to put good film

1361
01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:46,880
Speaker 4: out there so they can have an opportunity to go

1362
01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:49,480
Speaker 4: play in the National Football League, And so they're monitoring

1363
01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:53,080
Speaker 4: that too, And so everybody's looking at everybody, sell everybody else.

1364
01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:56,840
Speaker 4: And my biggest thing is, like that's important it is,

1365
01:05:57,080 --> 01:05:58,880
Speaker 4: but man, we got to make sure that we're looking

1366
01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:02,920
Speaker 4: internally too and how we're developing our players here too,

1367
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:05,800
Speaker 4: how we're treating our players here, not only on the field,

1368
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:09,040
Speaker 4: but off of how we're developing them, Because we want

1369
01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:11,200
Speaker 4: to make it as hard as possible for our guests

1370
01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:15,040
Speaker 4: to want to leave that we've that they're they're getting developed,

1371
01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:18,240
Speaker 4: they're getting treated well enough, they're getting coached up, they're

1372
01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:22,080
Speaker 4: playing in great schemes, they've got a great locker room culture. Uh,

1373
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:24,320
Speaker 4: they're getting the first class education. They get to live

1374
01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:26,520
Speaker 4: in the city of Austin. Like, I want to make

1375
01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:29,320
Speaker 4: it so dang hard for them to leave that if

1376
01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:31,360
Speaker 4: that moment comes or they feel like that's just in

1377
01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:33,600
Speaker 4: the best interest that for me to go, that it

1378
01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:36,320
Speaker 4: should almost bring him to tears that you know, this

1379
01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:37,640
Speaker 4: place meant that much to them.

1380
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:40,880
Speaker 1: Do you ever when that happens, When a guy leaves

1381
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:44,240
Speaker 1: and then you're in your office, you shut the door

1382
01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:48,000
Speaker 1: behind you, it's just you. If I were you, I

1383
01:06:48,080 --> 01:06:52,320
Speaker 1: would probably speak ill of someone. I would think, how

1384
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:54,200
Speaker 1: can you not get this? Like I would want to

1385
01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:56,000
Speaker 1: grab someone by the shoulders and I want to shake

1386
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:57,960
Speaker 1: them and say, like, how do you not get this

1387
01:06:58,080 --> 01:07:00,240
Speaker 1: because you've you've lived in this game for a long time.

1388
01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:03,600
Speaker 1: I've immersed myself in it for a long time. You

1389
01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:05,280
Speaker 1: know what I have looks like. You know what the

1390
01:07:05,320 --> 01:07:08,160
Speaker 1: have nots look like. And maybe it's seventeen or eighteen

1391
01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:10,560
Speaker 1: year old dozen always because they haven't been around the block.

1392
01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:13,440
Speaker 1: But when you see what a place like Texas affords you,

1393
01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:16,440
Speaker 1: or what a place like Georgia or Bama or Ohio

1394
01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:20,560
Speaker 1: State affords you, and then you think to look at

1395
01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:22,960
Speaker 1: all that and to say, no, no thanks, I'm good.

1396
01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:25,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go somewhere else. You've done all you can do,

1397
01:07:25,360 --> 01:07:26,640
Speaker 1: Like there's nothing else you can do with you do?

1398
01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:27,720
Speaker 1: You just sometimes think.

1399
01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:29,160
Speaker 2: Like are you serious?

1400
01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:32,320
Speaker 4: Well, you know, a lot of the couple things is

1401
01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:36,320
Speaker 4: we live in a society of instant gratification, okay, and

1402
01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:38,520
Speaker 4: social media hasn't made that any better.

1403
01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:40,880
Speaker 2: It's kind of escalated that.

1404
01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:43,480
Speaker 4: It's like, you know, I want to buy something, I

1405
01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:45,600
Speaker 4: go on Amazon and I order it, you know, or

1406
01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:47,200
Speaker 4: I go to Instacart, I go to one of these

1407
01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:49,720
Speaker 4: apps I can just you know, door Dash and Ubery.

1408
01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:51,680
Speaker 4: It's like, you know, I need to get somewhere. No

1409
01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:53,360
Speaker 4: longer do you have to call a buddy for a

1410
01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:55,800
Speaker 4: ride on my car. I call Uber, you know, I

1411
01:07:55,880 --> 01:07:58,360
Speaker 4: call Lyft or whomever it is. And so it's like

1412
01:07:58,400 --> 01:08:03,040
Speaker 4: we that's our world and and unfortunately we inherit the

1413
01:08:03,120 --> 01:08:06,160
Speaker 4: kids that grew up in this world now and they

1414
01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:10,560
Speaker 4: all want to play. Is nobody is disagreeing with you

1415
01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:14,200
Speaker 4: wanting to play. But whether it's our program any other one,

1416
01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:19,040
Speaker 4: nobody's gonna give you playing time. You earn that playing time,

1417
01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:23,000
Speaker 4: and sometimes that playing time doesn't get earned until year two,

1418
01:08:23,360 --> 01:08:27,040
Speaker 4: year three, maybe even year four. But there's this idea

1419
01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:29,760
Speaker 4: of what we've lost, in my opinion, as a society

1420
01:08:30,040 --> 01:08:35,280
Speaker 4: is the ability to persevere when things aren't going your

1421
01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:39,160
Speaker 4: way and then through hard work, through mental toughness, through

1422
01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:42,759
Speaker 4: some resiliency, you work towards it and then it's even

1423
01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:45,280
Speaker 4: more gratifying when you do get that.

1424
01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:49,519
Speaker 2: And the easy one is Mac Jones. I mean what he.

1425
01:08:49,400 --> 01:08:53,160
Speaker 4: Did at Alabama for three years to get his one shot.

1426
01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:57,360
Speaker 4: Nobody was more grateful for that opportunity than Mac Jones

1427
01:08:57,400 --> 01:08:59,559
Speaker 4: because of the work that he put in. But how

1428
01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:02,360
Speaker 4: many core nowadays are going to sit around and wait

1429
01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:05,320
Speaker 4: for three years before they get their chance to play

1430
01:09:05,400 --> 01:09:09,920
Speaker 4: their fourth year of college doesn't happen, right, And like

1431
01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:13,000
Speaker 4: I get a chuckle out of this. Everyone's praising Arch

1432
01:09:13,120 --> 01:09:15,839
Speaker 4: for staying at Texas. He's going into year.

1433
01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:20,519
Speaker 2: Too, Like what what do you mean, veteran man?

1434
01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:26,080
Speaker 4: But that's that's the mentality of not in our locker

1435
01:09:26,120 --> 01:09:28,160
Speaker 4: room is not a whole lot different than everybody else's.

1436
01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:31,600
Speaker 2: But that's mentality. Good. Good for Arch. He's sticking it

1437
01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:35,000
Speaker 2: out with Texas in year two. And I'm like, yeah,

1438
01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:36,200
Speaker 2: that's part of the process.

1439
01:09:36,280 --> 01:09:38,719
Speaker 4: Like we're developing him to play, be a great football

1440
01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:40,479
Speaker 4: player and a great leader, and he's going to be.

1441
01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:44,599
Speaker 4: But we're like, that's but that's where we're at right now,

1442
01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:47,240
Speaker 4: you know. And so I think that that's a little

1443
01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:50,760
Speaker 4: bit unfortunate, but but you know, it is what it is. Like,

1444
01:09:50,840 --> 01:09:53,400
Speaker 4: you know, Coach Savan's got the greatest line ever adapt

1445
01:09:53,479 --> 01:09:54,040
Speaker 4: or die.

1446
01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:56,559
Speaker 2: There's a reason dinosaurs aren't on the earth anymore.

1447
01:09:56,720 --> 01:09:59,640
Speaker 4: They couldn't adapt, and so we've continued to had to

1448
01:09:59,680 --> 01:10:01,479
Speaker 4: adapt then, the way we talk to our players, the

1449
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:04,280
Speaker 4: way we develop them, the way we try to find

1450
01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:07,080
Speaker 4: them opportunities to play and find niches that they can

1451
01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:09,280
Speaker 4: do to get them on the field. But I'm never

1452
01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:11,519
Speaker 4: going to back off of trying to develop them as men.

1453
01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:15,160
Speaker 4: And if we don't learn the value of perseverance here,

1454
01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:17,640
Speaker 4: how are we going to do it in the real world.

1455
01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:20,000
Speaker 4: You know what's gonna happen when the chips are against

1456
01:10:20,080 --> 01:10:21,880
Speaker 4: you in the real world. Are you gonna there's no,

1457
01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:24,320
Speaker 4: You can't transfer in the real world. You got to

1458
01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:26,840
Speaker 4: you gotta work your way through. You gotta show some resiliency,

1459
01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:29,160
Speaker 4: You gotta put forth a little bit more extra. You

1460
01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:30,880
Speaker 4: got to be a little bit more disciplined, You got

1461
01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:33,280
Speaker 4: to be a little bit more committed to whatever that

1462
01:10:33,400 --> 01:10:36,479
Speaker 4: cause is. And so there is no transfer portal in

1463
01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:39,120
Speaker 4: the real world, right and so, and I'm not saying

1464
01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:40,280
Speaker 4: that transfer portal's bad.

1465
01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:42,800
Speaker 2: Hey it's helped the University of Texas. I'll be honest

1466
01:10:42,840 --> 01:10:44,040
Speaker 2: with I'll be the first one to tell you.

1467
01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:48,120
Speaker 4: But but we can't just rely on that as that's

1468
01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:51,799
Speaker 4: the out. And let's make sure we're exhausting ourselves before

1469
01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:54,040
Speaker 4: we say all right the portal, coach, is time for

1470
01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:55,960
Speaker 4: me to go. And then I can close my door

1471
01:10:56,000 --> 01:10:57,960
Speaker 4: in my office and sit there and say, hey, you

1472
01:10:57,960 --> 01:11:00,880
Speaker 4: know what, we did everything we could for him, And

1473
01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:04,080
Speaker 4: this was in his best interest to move on and

1474
01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:04,880
Speaker 4: to find a new hope.

1475
01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:06,599
Speaker 2: Here's what sucks in my space.

1476
01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:10,839
Speaker 1: So if I try and say that, I get accused

1477
01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:13,720
Speaker 1: of being anti player because people hear what they want

1478
01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:14,960
Speaker 1: to hear instead of what you say.

1479
01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:17,080
Speaker 2: Like you can be in two truths at one time.

1480
01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:20,559
Speaker 1: You can be pro ability for guys to move but

1481
01:11:20,680 --> 01:11:24,120
Speaker 1: also pro them using it as a last resort.

1482
01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:25,720
Speaker 2: But that's got to be on them.

1483
01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:28,639
Speaker 1: You're kind of basically you're doing the same thing I'm

1484
01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:31,200
Speaker 1: doing right now, and that you're give an opinion on

1485
01:11:31,320 --> 01:11:34,960
Speaker 1: the way you hope guys are wired mentally, while also saying,

1486
01:11:35,080 --> 01:11:37,200
Speaker 1: but if you're not, there's the water slide.

1487
01:11:37,240 --> 01:11:39,080
Speaker 2: You can hop on it. You go wherever it takes you.

1488
01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:42,120
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've noticed this, but it seems

1489
01:11:42,160 --> 01:11:43,840
Speaker 1: to me there are a lot of people in the

1490
01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:46,280
Speaker 1: space right now with a lot of ulterior motives, and

1491
01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:48,800
Speaker 1: some are on the nil side of the fence, maybe

1492
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:52,479
Speaker 1: profiting from it, and some are just moonlighting as agents

1493
01:11:52,479 --> 01:11:54,880
Speaker 1: even though they're not accredited by anyone, and so it's

1494
01:11:55,080 --> 01:11:57,200
Speaker 1: in their best interest to just continue to take a

1495
01:11:57,240 --> 01:12:00,639
Speaker 1: baseball bat to the beehive. And then you've got voices

1496
01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:02,720
Speaker 1: saying what you're trying to say, And sometimes I try

1497
01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:04,640
Speaker 1: and echo that same sentiment and you can't even get

1498
01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:05,559
Speaker 1: the sentence out of your mouth.

1499
01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:09,600
Speaker 2: Will not so much you say players shouldn't have those rights. No,

1500
01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:12,519
Speaker 2: no one's saying that, right, right, right, So that's what

1501
01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:15,519
Speaker 2: I deal with, kind of a little commentary. You know.

1502
01:12:15,720 --> 01:12:20,479
Speaker 4: The thing is, it's like, as we're moving, you know,

1503
01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:23,439
Speaker 4: as college football and college athletics are shifting and changing,

1504
01:12:23,479 --> 01:12:29,479
Speaker 4: and it's kind of it's all happening, sometimes we need

1505
01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:31,519
Speaker 4: to lean into the people that have.

1506
01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:35,200
Speaker 2: Been the experts in this space for decades.

1507
01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:38,880
Speaker 4: You know, professional sports in a lot of ways has

1508
01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:43,040
Speaker 4: figured a lot of this stuff out. And sometimes, you know,

1509
01:12:43,240 --> 01:12:46,559
Speaker 4: if we want to minimize you know, the guys is

1510
01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:51,760
Speaker 4: moonlighting as agents, Well, let's only deal with accredited agents, right.

1511
01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:56,240
Speaker 4: If you're not an accredited agent through any professional sport,

1512
01:12:56,280 --> 01:12:59,559
Speaker 4: whether it's the NFL, major league based, then you can't

1513
01:12:59,720 --> 01:13:02,160
Speaker 4: speak kind of players behalf in college. Have we ever

1514
01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:05,240
Speaker 4: thought about that? No, because we're still playing catchup. We're

1515
01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:07,120
Speaker 4: still trying to get the lay of the land here.

1516
01:13:07,320 --> 01:13:09,840
Speaker 4: But that's just one simple thing. It's like we have

1517
01:13:10,080 --> 01:13:13,559
Speaker 4: got to start to get settle our feet down and

1518
01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:17,000
Speaker 4: we will. And college football change is a good thing

1519
01:13:17,439 --> 01:13:20,400
Speaker 4: as long as we make the necessary adjustments and get

1520
01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:21,080
Speaker 4: this thing right.

1521
01:13:21,160 --> 01:13:23,280
Speaker 2: And so whether it's the portal, whether.

1522
01:13:23,080 --> 01:13:26,800
Speaker 4: It's NIO, whether it's conference realignment, whether it becomes revenue sharing,

1523
01:13:27,479 --> 01:13:32,720
Speaker 4: we're all we're going through this thing together and hopefully

1524
01:13:32,479 --> 01:13:35,320
Speaker 4: that we've got people in place, which I believe that

1525
01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:36,040
Speaker 4: we do that.

1526
01:13:36,040 --> 01:13:38,680
Speaker 2: In great leadership to.

1527
01:13:38,520 --> 01:13:41,280
Speaker 4: Navigate us through it and then settle this all down

1528
01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:43,760
Speaker 4: to say, Okay, this is the direction we're going. I

1529
01:13:43,800 --> 01:13:46,479
Speaker 4: want what's best for our players, and they have they

1530
01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:49,280
Speaker 4: work their tail off, and the opportunities that they're getting,

1531
01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:52,520
Speaker 4: I'm super excited for them. But there's also other opportunities

1532
01:13:52,600 --> 01:13:56,800
Speaker 4: that don't have a monetary value on them that I

1533
01:13:56,840 --> 01:14:00,439
Speaker 4: think college football offers them that's going to help them

1534
01:14:00,439 --> 01:14:03,400
Speaker 4: in life, and there is no value to put on that.

1535
01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:03,720
Speaker 2: Right.

1536
01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:06,200
Speaker 4: It's what we got as what I got as a player,

1537
01:14:06,240 --> 01:14:08,599
Speaker 4: I mean I played for level Edwards. Those two years

1538
01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:10,840
Speaker 4: I had at BUYU with him were priceless to me.

1539
01:14:11,320 --> 01:14:14,479
Speaker 4: That helped shape me for what I've become. And I

1540
01:14:14,479 --> 01:14:16,559
Speaker 4: think we all can speak to coaches that we've had

1541
01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:20,280
Speaker 4: and experiences in college that we've had teammates that we've

1542
01:14:20,280 --> 01:14:24,720
Speaker 4: had that impact us, and so that that's above and

1543
01:14:24,760 --> 01:14:29,840
Speaker 4: beyond just a value of nil or playing time, because

1544
01:14:29,880 --> 01:14:32,400
Speaker 4: I think we learn a lot about ourselves through adversity,

1545
01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:35,479
Speaker 4: and so hopefully as we get in this and as

1546
01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:38,240
Speaker 4: we navigate through it, we get to a space where

1547
01:14:38,439 --> 01:14:42,080
Speaker 4: everybody's comfortable. Not everybody has to be happy, as long

1548
01:14:42,120 --> 01:14:44,439
Speaker 4: as everybody's comfortable with the space that we're in in

1549
01:14:44,439 --> 01:14:45,840
Speaker 4: college athletics.

1550
01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:50,240
Speaker 2: Are you familiar with what a gas station recruiting war is? No? No,

1551
01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:52,200
Speaker 2: I feel like I don't do that. I don't know.

1552
01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:52,960
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1553
01:14:52,960 --> 01:14:54,600
Speaker 4: If that, well, that's what I was gonna I wouldn't know,

1554
01:14:54,640 --> 01:14:56,040
Speaker 4: I wouldn't know if I would know it.

1555
01:14:56,080 --> 01:14:57,840
Speaker 2: Probably if that was something I did, well, I was

1556
01:14:57,880 --> 01:14:59,599
Speaker 2: going to ask you. So you're in the state of Texas.

1557
01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:02,040
Speaker 1: Depending on like the portion of the country you're in,

1558
01:15:02,479 --> 01:15:04,280
Speaker 1: there are places that are big deals.

1559
01:15:04,720 --> 01:15:07,160
Speaker 2: Like BUCkies is a really big deal in Texas, big deal.

1560
01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:09,120
Speaker 1: But do you ever actually get to go in one,

1561
01:15:09,160 --> 01:15:11,040
Speaker 1: because that would be a scene if you walked into one.

1562
01:15:11,680 --> 01:15:13,960
Speaker 4: I stopped at one last week. I was driving back

1563
01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:17,320
Speaker 4: from Houston and I stopped at BUCkies. I didn't get

1564
01:15:17,320 --> 01:15:20,280
Speaker 4: anything though I just kind of walked. I walked in

1565
01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:22,720
Speaker 4: real quick, and I looked around because I had never

1566
01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:26,160
Speaker 4: been at this particular BUCkies, and it's fascinating, I mean,

1567
01:15:26,280 --> 01:15:27,000
Speaker 4: just massive.

1568
01:15:27,120 --> 01:15:28,839
Speaker 2: And then I got back in my car and I

1569
01:15:28,920 --> 01:15:31,400
Speaker 2: kept trucking, which brings me to my next point.

1570
01:15:31,600 --> 01:15:34,240
Speaker 1: So I'm currently finding myself in about an eight way

1571
01:15:34,280 --> 01:15:36,760
Speaker 1: bidding war in my own gas station recruiting battle. I'm

1572
01:15:36,760 --> 01:15:38,599
Speaker 1: going to partner with one of these brands this fall,

1573
01:15:39,160 --> 01:15:41,919
Speaker 1: and every other big boys at the table and BUCkies

1574
01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:45,400
Speaker 1: has been mia and I don't get it because I'm

1575
01:15:45,479 --> 01:15:47,240
Speaker 1: very loyal to them or have been in the past,

1576
01:15:47,560 --> 01:15:51,320
Speaker 1: and so any advice on handling my recruitment when I

1577
01:15:51,360 --> 01:15:53,840
Speaker 1: don't have one offer that I would love to have

1578
01:15:53,920 --> 01:15:55,800
Speaker 1: on the table would be very much appreciated.

1579
01:15:56,400 --> 01:15:59,360
Speaker 2: Well, but I think think about this from a player's perspective.

1580
01:15:59,439 --> 01:16:04,240
Speaker 4: Right, let's call it where the University of Texas and

1581
01:16:04,280 --> 01:16:06,920
Speaker 4: I only get to sign what is it, twenty five

1582
01:16:06,920 --> 01:16:09,800
Speaker 4: players a year, and in the state of Texas, there's

1583
01:16:09,960 --> 01:16:13,040
Speaker 4: hundreds hundreds of players that are going to go play

1584
01:16:13,080 --> 01:16:17,600
Speaker 4: Division one football or football in general at various universities.

1585
01:16:18,200 --> 01:16:21,880
Speaker 4: And so now I've got coaches out spring recruiting, and

1586
01:16:22,960 --> 01:16:25,160
Speaker 4: there's the kid. He's a really good player. We know

1587
01:16:25,240 --> 01:16:27,599
Speaker 4: he's a good player, but we're trying to figure out

1588
01:16:28,160 --> 01:16:29,720
Speaker 4: are we going to offer him or not? Like, how

1589
01:16:29,760 --> 01:16:33,760
Speaker 4: do we go through it? And then inevitably we do

1590
01:16:33,800 --> 01:16:35,800
Speaker 4: because okay, it's the right fit. But now the kid's

1591
01:16:35,880 --> 01:16:38,439
Speaker 4: upset with us because it took us too long. Because

1592
01:16:38,439 --> 01:16:40,519
Speaker 4: everybody else is just always a kid in Texas. He

1593
01:16:40,600 --> 01:16:42,640
Speaker 4: must be good to go offer him, But there's no

1594
01:16:42,680 --> 01:16:46,920
Speaker 4: substance behind the offer, right, And then when you do

1595
01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:48,840
Speaker 4: go to commit to that school and then they tell

1596
01:16:48,880 --> 01:16:52,639
Speaker 4: you can't commit because that wasn't a committable offer, right,

1597
01:16:52,720 --> 01:16:54,120
Speaker 4: So what kind of offer do you want?

1598
01:16:54,200 --> 01:16:57,200
Speaker 2: Wow? From BUCkies? You think they may give me the

1599
01:16:57,240 --> 01:16:57,879
Speaker 2: non committable.

1600
01:16:58,120 --> 01:16:59,800
Speaker 4: They could vary easily, just to get in the game,

1601
01:16:59,840 --> 01:17:01,800
Speaker 4: and let's feel it out. So you got to you

1602
01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:02,559
Speaker 4: gotta figure that out.

1603
01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:03,720
Speaker 2: There's kind of light.

1604
01:17:04,240 --> 01:17:07,320
Speaker 4: Our offers that come for me are committable. And so

1605
01:17:07,520 --> 01:17:10,439
Speaker 4: now who's offering you that you know, that's that's the thing.

1606
01:17:10,479 --> 01:17:13,800
Speaker 4: You got to figure out who at Bucki's is offering you.

1607
01:17:13,880 --> 01:17:15,720
Speaker 1: So I may need to dance with a girl that

1608
01:17:15,880 --> 01:17:17,760
Speaker 1: was there with me at the beginning.

1609
01:17:18,040 --> 01:17:19,760
Speaker 4: I think there might be something to be said for that,

1610
01:17:20,320 --> 01:17:23,400
Speaker 4: or make sure you're getting the right type offer.

1611
01:17:23,560 --> 01:17:26,760
Speaker 2: This is deep. This is really deep. I appreciate that.

1612
01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:27,599
Speaker 2: Thank you so much.

1613
01:17:27,800 --> 01:17:29,880
Speaker 1: All Right, a couple more things here that we're going

1614
01:17:29,960 --> 01:17:31,559
Speaker 1: to get right back on the track of football with.

1615
01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:33,519
Speaker 2: When you guys go to.

1616
01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:36,280
Speaker 1: The playoff last year, ye, a lot of people are

1617
01:17:36,320 --> 01:17:38,240
Speaker 1: experiencing that for the first time in your organization.

1618
01:17:38,680 --> 01:17:39,759
Speaker 2: You had been there before.

1619
01:17:41,600 --> 01:17:45,719
Speaker 1: How much of a learning process is that for your players,

1620
01:17:45,760 --> 01:17:48,360
Speaker 1: your people in your organization. And it didn't go the

1621
01:17:48,360 --> 01:17:50,240
Speaker 1: way you wanted it to on the field, But how

1622
01:17:50,280 --> 01:17:52,439
Speaker 1: much better equipped do you feel like you are in

1623
01:17:52,479 --> 01:17:54,320
Speaker 1: the future because you've been through that whole thing.

1624
01:17:54,439 --> 01:18:01,120
Speaker 4: Well, I think if nothing else, we tasted it and

1625
01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:04,840
Speaker 4: everybody it was so good they wanted again. And so

1626
01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:08,480
Speaker 4: it really is serving as an awesome piece of motivation

1627
01:18:08,720 --> 01:18:13,040
Speaker 4: throughout the winner, throughout springball, heading in the summer. Because

1628
01:18:13,080 --> 01:18:14,960
Speaker 4: it didn't go the way we wanted to and because

1629
01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:18,479
Speaker 4: we were so close, I think it served is great

1630
01:18:18,520 --> 01:18:21,599
Speaker 4: motivation the same way maybe the Bama game served from

1631
01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:26,840
Speaker 4: two years ago. Wait, that was Alabama and we lost

1632
01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:30,599
Speaker 4: on a last second field goal. Let's let's keep doing

1633
01:18:30,600 --> 01:18:33,320
Speaker 4: what coach is talking about and then let's try to

1634
01:18:33,400 --> 01:18:35,160
Speaker 4: take the next step. And so I think it's been

1635
01:18:35,200 --> 01:18:38,679
Speaker 4: part of the progression as the program as we've grown

1636
01:18:38,720 --> 01:18:42,400
Speaker 4: from year to year to year. Yeah, that's stung and

1637
01:18:42,439 --> 01:18:44,799
Speaker 4: it hurt to walk off the field in New Orleans

1638
01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:47,559
Speaker 4: not winning. But I think we've when in evily what's

1639
01:18:47,560 --> 01:18:49,479
Speaker 4: come out of it. We've got a really hungry football

1640
01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:53,000
Speaker 4: team that wants to get back to that stage and

1641
01:18:53,320 --> 01:18:54,479
Speaker 4: see if they can overcome that.

1642
01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:58,280
Speaker 1: Everyone is going to be talking about you guys, and oh,

1643
01:18:58,320 --> 01:19:00,800
Speaker 1: you going to the SEC, but they're talking about it

1644
01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:02,439
Speaker 1: at like fifty thousand feet.

1645
01:19:02,840 --> 01:19:03,960
Speaker 2: Oh, how great it's going to be.

1646
01:19:03,960 --> 01:19:05,800
Speaker 1: Oh, how amazing it's going to be, which I agree with.

1647
01:19:06,240 --> 01:19:08,720
Speaker 1: But when you get into the weeds of like the

1648
01:19:08,840 --> 01:19:12,920
Speaker 1: practical things that go along with that, what is it,

1649
01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:15,559
Speaker 1: if anything, that you specifically have to focus on or

1650
01:19:15,600 --> 01:19:17,000
Speaker 1: is it just we're going to play the teams on

1651
01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:18,519
Speaker 1: our schedule, let's go well.

1652
01:19:18,560 --> 01:19:22,000
Speaker 4: I think one of the challenges is, you know, beyond

1653
01:19:23,040 --> 01:19:27,639
Speaker 4: just the schedule, it's getting to know the rosters, getting

1654
01:19:27,680 --> 01:19:30,200
Speaker 4: to know the coaching staffs. You know, you get into

1655
01:19:30,200 --> 01:19:32,519
Speaker 4: the routine in your conference, being in the Big twelve,

1656
01:19:32,600 --> 01:19:36,719
Speaker 4: of Okay, there's Matt Campbell, there's their style of defense. Okay,

1657
01:19:36,760 --> 01:19:40,720
Speaker 4: there's coach Dikes, there's Dave Randa. Right, there's you know,

1658
01:19:40,800 --> 01:19:44,120
Speaker 4: coach Climbing, there's you know, coach Leiphold and then their

1659
01:19:44,160 --> 01:19:46,760
Speaker 4: style and you get to know them when you transition

1660
01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:49,559
Speaker 4: to a new conference. There's a there's a lot of

1661
01:19:49,600 --> 01:19:52,080
Speaker 4: information that we've got to wrap our brain around and

1662
01:19:52,120 --> 01:19:53,639
Speaker 4: get a lay of the land of.

1663
01:19:54,200 --> 01:19:55,320
Speaker 2: To help us prepare.

1664
01:19:55,560 --> 01:19:57,479
Speaker 4: Right in training camp, what are we going to have

1665
01:19:57,560 --> 01:20:00,400
Speaker 4: to get prepared to play against when the season rolls round.

1666
01:20:00,720 --> 01:20:02,639
Speaker 2: That's probably the biggest shift, right.

1667
01:20:03,640 --> 01:20:06,600
Speaker 4: Of you know, getting acclimated of you know who you

1668
01:20:06,640 --> 01:20:08,040
Speaker 4: know we maybe.

1669
01:20:07,800 --> 01:20:10,200
Speaker 2: They're not on the schedule, but we might play Old Miss.

1670
01:20:10,240 --> 01:20:13,080
Speaker 4: So what is Lane's offense licking like in Pee Golding

1671
01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:15,559
Speaker 4: or we're not playing l s U, but what is

1672
01:20:15,640 --> 01:20:18,680
Speaker 4: you know, what is Brian Kelly doing at LSU or

1673
01:20:19,160 --> 01:20:21,839
Speaker 4: Josh Hipel at Tennessee. So you're looking at your own schedule,

1674
01:20:22,120 --> 01:20:23,920
Speaker 4: but then if you can make it to that game,

1675
01:20:24,400 --> 01:20:30,320
Speaker 4: just making sure you're preparing your team, you know, schematically,

1676
01:20:30,439 --> 01:20:33,160
Speaker 4: That's one thing. I think recruiting is a whole nother thing,

1677
01:20:33,479 --> 01:20:38,200
Speaker 4: right because where our niche was was in Texas and

1678
01:20:38,240 --> 01:20:41,680
Speaker 4: in and around Texas and maybe a little into the Louisiana.

1679
01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:44,920
Speaker 4: Now being the Southeastern Conference, now we're sweeping all the

1680
01:20:44,920 --> 01:20:48,599
Speaker 4: way across, right, I tend and and take you over there.

1681
01:20:48,640 --> 01:20:50,559
Speaker 4: And so you have to adjust some of that too,

1682
01:20:52,479 --> 01:20:55,000
Speaker 4: because not only do we want to recruit our great

1683
01:20:55,080 --> 01:20:58,400
Speaker 4: state of Texas, which was critical to our success, and

1684
01:20:58,439 --> 01:21:00,400
Speaker 4: now nobody can say, why would you go to Texas?

1685
01:21:00,479 --> 01:21:02,280
Speaker 2: You have to play in the Big twelve, right.

1686
01:21:02,200 --> 01:21:05,639
Speaker 4: So we kind of get that back, But we also

1687
01:21:05,720 --> 01:21:08,840
Speaker 4: now can broaden our stroke a little bit to the southeast,

1688
01:21:08,840 --> 01:21:10,080
Speaker 4: which I think is good for us.

1689
01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:13,200
Speaker 1: So when we come out of spring here a lot

1690
01:21:13,200 --> 01:21:15,120
Speaker 1: of coaches are on the road as we speak right

1691
01:21:15,160 --> 01:21:19,200
Speaker 1: now recruiting. You're doing the speaking engagement circuit. But eventually

1692
01:21:19,600 --> 01:21:22,640
Speaker 1: summer workouts and then fall camp gets here. Yeah, what

1693
01:21:22,840 --> 01:21:27,040
Speaker 1: did you guys exit spring with the biggest red sharp

1694
01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:30,479
Speaker 1: ee circle focus on of saying this right here? That

1695
01:21:30,640 --> 01:21:33,640
Speaker 1: right there that's probably going to decide whether we get

1696
01:21:33,680 --> 01:21:34,880
Speaker 1: where we want to go this fall or not.

1697
01:21:35,600 --> 01:21:38,760
Speaker 4: Well, I think you know the biggest one is when

1698
01:21:38,800 --> 01:21:43,800
Speaker 4: you lose those two two defensive linemen and then the

1699
01:21:43,840 --> 01:21:46,360
Speaker 4: interior of your front with Bier Murphy and Defandre Sweat.

1700
01:21:46,520 --> 01:21:50,040
Speaker 4: How do you replace? And I think one thing that

1701
01:21:50,360 --> 01:21:52,360
Speaker 4: we've come out of saying, Okay, we've got a couple

1702
01:21:52,360 --> 01:21:55,160
Speaker 4: of high level players, but we don't have to replace

1703
01:21:55,200 --> 01:21:58,320
Speaker 4: them with just two players that I think our depth

1704
01:21:58,400 --> 01:22:00,840
Speaker 4: is really important, and so that was something that we

1705
01:22:00,920 --> 01:22:04,760
Speaker 4: tried to attack in the portal, just to solidify the

1706
01:22:04,800 --> 01:22:07,719
Speaker 4: depth of playing more people and not having to rely

1707
01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:08,880
Speaker 4: on just those two.

1708
01:22:09,320 --> 01:22:11,000
Speaker 2: But I think we've got some players that are ready

1709
01:22:11,040 --> 01:22:11,519
Speaker 2: to develop.

1710
01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:13,479
Speaker 4: Neither of those two guys that ever started a game

1711
01:22:13,560 --> 01:22:16,240
Speaker 4: until last season either, And so the fact that we've

1712
01:22:16,280 --> 01:22:18,599
Speaker 4: got some young players in our program that are growing up.

1713
01:22:19,000 --> 01:22:22,040
Speaker 4: I love where Alfred Collins is at Vernon Broughton of

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Speaker 4: what they can do with some of the growth of

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Speaker 4: our other players.

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Speaker 2: So that was one area. And then on the offensive

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Speaker 4: We lost three NFL receivers right and an NFL tied

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Speaker 4: end and so getting that continuity back for Quinn, whether

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Speaker 4: again it was in the transfer portal with Isaiah Bond,

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Speaker 4: Silas Bold and Matthew Golden, whether it's with the three

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Speaker 4: young players that we had that were the only returning

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Speaker 4: scholarship receivers in John Tay Cook, Ryan Nibblett, DeAndre Moore

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Speaker 4: or the high school ranked kids, and you know we're

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Speaker 2: So we've got to get that.

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Speaker 4: Continuity at an all time high because that's what's going

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Speaker 4: to be needed in those in those big games that

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Speaker 4: that's going to come down to. The precision has got

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Speaker 4: to be critical in the passing game, and you've got

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Speaker 4: to be able to create those explosive plays.

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Speaker 2: And I think this.

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Speaker 4: I think that was part of the reason why we

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Speaker 4: the reason we lost to Washington.

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Speaker 2: Washington hit those.

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Speaker 4: Big plays against us, we didn't hit enough of them

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Speaker 4: against them.

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Speaker 1: Final question, it's still several months away, but how many

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Speaker 1: people are going to hit you up that weekend Georgia

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Speaker 1: how many favors will be called in that weekend.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure plenty.

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Speaker 4: But my thing is this, did you My first question

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Speaker 4: is do you have a hotel room? Because if you

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Speaker 4: don't have a hotel room, you can't come to the

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Speaker 4: game anyway. I don't know where you're going to go.

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Speaker 4: And so the it's obviously a great weekend in Austin.

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Speaker 4: That weekend, it's it's going to be pretty electric. The

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Speaker 4: thing for us, which would which would be different? We

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Speaker 4: have the Red River Showdown the week before. Yeah, so

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Speaker 4: we're going right from Dallas and the State Fair and

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Speaker 4: all that that. That game entails right back to Austin

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Speaker 4: So there's a lot of things happening in and around that.

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Speaker 4: But that's the beauty of now the SEC and that's

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