1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,640 Speaker 1: What's Up a Sericondre And this is Bombing, the podcast 2 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: where I talked to comedians, artists, and other interesting people 3 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: about the worst bombs of their career. On today's episode, 4 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: we have my friends married comedy legends, the Tasha Laguerrero 5 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: and Mosha Kasher. We talked about bombing at Catholic schools, 6 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:17,159 Speaker 1: getting told you're too short by your agent, going to 7 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: rehab as a kid, and more. 8 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:21,959 Speaker 2: Enjoy and after you do, make sure you check out 9 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:24,760 Speaker 2: the Endless Honeymoon podcast. 10 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 3: Bombing with Eric Andre. 11 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: Tell me the worst bomb of your life. Give me 12 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: any couple, say a couple, just worst shows, stand up television, 13 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: a commercial, anything. 14 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 2: Oh you know. 15 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 4: I was on the writing staff for the Movie Awards 16 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 4: one year. It was right after we had Chris Rock 17 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 4: on the Champs and uh like maybe two months later, 18 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 4: and he was a presenter and he came in and 19 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 4: I made a real like performance of like crossing past 20 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 4: all the other writers to like say hi, And I 21 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 4: was like I kind of like pushed him out of 22 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 4: the way, Like no. 23 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 5: No, he was really exciting. 24 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 2: I was like trying to. I was like trying to. 25 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 4: I mean I wanted them to see that I knew him, 26 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. It was like a real ego, 27 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 4: actual and I like crossed, passed, excuse me everybody, and 28 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 4: I was like Rock and you know that look where 29 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 4: someone like zero percent knows who the fuck you are 30 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 4: like and I and I just immediately was like, you 31 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 4: know from from Neil, from Neil's podcast. 32 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:40,039 Speaker 2: I gave Neil the whole podcast. I unco hosted the podcast. 33 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 2: That was a bomb. I think he meets a lot 34 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 2: of people every day. 35 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 4: But it was the Rock that was the part that 36 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 4: was really pathetic. It wasn't like, hey, Chris, do you 37 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 4: remember it was Rock my old friend you met. 38 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 6: I would say every day I say that, nice to 39 00:01:57,640 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 6: meet you, and someone's like, we've met You. 40 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:01,639 Speaker 2: Did that to me for like the first three years. 41 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 2: Is that true? Every time we met? 42 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, we were doing like show Caroline together. 43 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 2: I'm pretty fucking that's the one to hurt the most. 44 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:14,399 Speaker 2: I'm like, come on, she se me in bed reason. 45 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: Multiple times, met you in New York at Carolines multiple times, 46 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 1: we did shows together. Then you came to La met 47 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:24,359 Speaker 1: you multiple times and you were like, hey, nice to finally, 48 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:25,239 Speaker 1: nice to meet you. 49 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 2: Good. No, no, actually I'm sorry not finally nice to meet you. 50 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:30,519 Speaker 6: Okay, I have to tell you something because I must. 51 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 6: I'm just older than you, so you were rude. I 52 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 6: was already established. But here's a great bomb. 53 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 2: Okay. 54 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 5: Eric was on last commanding. 55 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 2: Yes. 56 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:46,399 Speaker 6: And Eric did this thing where he said the word 57 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 6: boot cocky in a joke and for some reason that 58 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:53,639 Speaker 6: like was like, I was like, okay, boot hockey, you're out. 59 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 5: I was just trying to be funny or something. 60 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 1: And I remember I didn't even believe that was coming 61 00:02:57,919 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: from you. I thought you had your ear wigs in 62 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 1: and what is it. 63 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 6: The producers were like, you have to let some people 64 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:07,639 Speaker 6: get out, geta I was accepting everyone, so I was like, okay. 65 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 5: He said, but cocky, he's out. It was the coolest thing. 66 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:12,799 Speaker 6: And this is how I knew Eric was going to 67 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:14,799 Speaker 6: be so successful because we knew each other. 68 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 5: I had admitted to know. 69 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 2: I'd forgotten him every time we met for five years. 70 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 6: Eric had my number and he texted me and he 71 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 6: goes because I was like, sorry, you're you can't go forward. 72 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 6: And it was me and Greg Geralder and Andy Killer 73 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 6: and Eric texted me and he's like, I just want 74 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 6: you to know that I'm totally cool, and I know 75 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 6: that you've got a thing in your ear and we're 76 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 6: all good and you know, love, and it was like 77 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 6: so mature and so cool and no one else did 78 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 6: anything like that, and I was like, well, it was 79 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 6: just so cool because you were like you were so savvy. 80 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 5: You're like I already know how this worked. 81 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 6: So I was like, wow, Eric, is really that's a 82 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 6: that was a class act. 83 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 5: You don't remember that. 84 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 2: You don't remember that. 85 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 6: No, it really touched me because I was like, I 86 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 6: had never done anything that big. 87 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 5: Because how do you set you must? 88 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 2: You seemed cool, calm and collected. I thought you had. 89 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 2: I thought everybody was but you. 90 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 6: But usually your ego gets involved if you're doing an 91 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 6: audition to be on a show in front of people 92 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 6: and someone's like your friend is like sorry, I. 93 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 1: Never like I didn't grow up with Last Comic Standing, 94 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 1: like it came out when we. 95 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 5: Were like I'm just saying in general. 96 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, but it wasn't like, oh no, like Lauren Michaels 97 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: saw me at a show and I bombed and I 98 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: won't be on Saturday Night Live, Like there was no 99 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 1: it didn't have like legacy to it, so I didn't. 100 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 2: I didn't you even care for real? 101 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:43,919 Speaker 1: No, I wasn't like this is how I get fame. 102 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 1: I didn't believe it. I was skeptical of the show. Oh, 103 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: I actually was like, I was like, I think this 104 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 1: show might be a curse. 105 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 2: What was a scuttle about on Natasha hosting? Do you 106 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 2: remember that where people talking shit? The scuttle? 107 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 5: No one, he didn't even he didn't even care about. 108 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 2: This from fucking nineteen fifty six. What does that mean. 109 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 2: I'm from nineteen eighty six. That's That's what it means. 110 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:02,679 Speaker 2: That's my pastor. 111 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 5: I don't talk about it. 112 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 6: I just that was something that was very cool and 113 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 6: you I would like to do it the. 114 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 2: First compliment you've ever given me. You guys have a 115 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 2: weird talking about Is there a weird tension? No, not 116 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 2: at all. For sure here a sexual Dre's definitely a 117 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 2: sexual chemistry. Yeah, you guys are gonna fuck tonight. It's possible. 118 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: Do you guys are just schedule? You're fucking my friend 119 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 1: as a kid as a schedule fucking girl. 120 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 2: Well, I will say friend your note to it? 121 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 3: I won't. 122 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 2: That's so happy. 123 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 5: Is it a wife or a girlfriend? 124 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: It's his girlfriend that he's been with for a decade ago, 125 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 1: the mother of the child. 126 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 2: It's a mother of the job. No, we don't schedule it. No, 127 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 2: I do a lot of you just get your bone off. 128 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 2: It's just it's improved. Mostly. We did have a like 129 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 2: a show at the ground Links. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we 130 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 2: had a show this weekend. 131 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 4: We went away to Palm Springs because it was her 132 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 4: birthday and birthday thank you. She was in a bathing 133 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 4: suit a lot, so my dick was on rock and 134 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 4: we were staying in the room with with our kid, 135 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 4: and it was just like we thought about maybe trying 136 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 4: to like lock the door to the bathroom. But we 137 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 4: tried that one time and she starts the kids started 138 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 4: knocking like she knew something was up. 139 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 2: She was like, let me in, let me in. 140 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 6: It's hard when you're on vacation or traveling or even 141 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 6: doing work and traveling with a kid, because like renting 142 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 6: two hotel rooms is kind of the kinds of places 143 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:20,720 Speaker 6: I want to stay at. 144 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 5: It's not always affordable. 145 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 2: It is interesting that you pissed on us at one 146 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 2: point in our careers. That's I didn't pee on you. 147 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 2: You did. Actually I peed on you. 148 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 5: Yes, in our hot tub and we had. 149 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: Durin got on you. Well you let me pee in 150 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 1: the hot tub? 151 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, we did, because commitment. What do you mean, Why 152 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:38,679 Speaker 4: you're you drink a gallon of ranch? 153 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 2: Why that's discussed? Why do that was your personal that's know. 154 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 5: It was on camera and it was for a laugh, 155 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:46,799 Speaker 5: and it was funny. 156 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:49,359 Speaker 6: And then the truth is kids, we emptied it and 157 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:50,280 Speaker 6: then filled it back up. 158 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 2: Kids peeing hot tubs all the time. That's what chlorine's for. Disgusting. 159 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 4: You ever see the sign that said, Oohl, notice there's 160 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 4: no pee in the pool. Let's keep it that way. 161 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 5: He's not our seven year old. 162 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 2: I don't, I don't. I don't know what you're talking about. 163 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 2: You didn't grow up with you know. 164 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: What I'll tell you, Sarah sermon is. 165 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 5: The best diary diary of. 166 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 167 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: She goes, I went to a public pool. I saw 168 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: jacuzzie that said I had a sign. If you've had 169 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: diary in the last two weeks, you're not allowed in 170 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: the hot tub. And she goes, how about you just 171 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: say no Jews allowed? 172 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 5: Why did Jews have diarrhea? 173 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:29,679 Speaker 2: We got stomach We we are neurotic and ancient. We're very anxious. Okay, 174 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 2: we got to talk about bombing. 175 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 5: I was telling Mosh on the way over here. 176 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 6: I don't have any like elaborate stories, but I do 177 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 6: remember being heckled in Atlantic City and this. 178 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 5: Guy was just stood up and was like wrap it 179 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 5: up like this, like Guido type. 180 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 3: You know. 181 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 5: It was like from a. 182 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 4: There are certain heckles out there that are really difficult to. 183 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 2: Respond to. Wrap it up is in that zone. I 184 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 2: had a guy. 185 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 5: Well, especially when you're a young comic, you don't really. 186 00:07:59,040 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 2: Have comeback shop. 187 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, I had a guy in Ireland. Ireland was one 188 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 4: of my most epic bombs ever. I did the Kilkenny 189 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 4: Cat Laughs. Festal you ever do that. It's a festival 190 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 4: in the like hinterlands of Ireland, like like in the 191 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 4: in the in like a medieval kind of country village. 192 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 4: And I remember the. 193 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 2: Like speak Gaelic for real. Well they they it's like. 194 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 4: A it's like a theme park kind of place, but 195 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 4: it's you think it's going to be charming, but it's 196 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 4: actually you're in the country. You're in the fucking deep road, 197 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 4: you know. And I remember the first night I did 198 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 4: my show, it went well, and that's. 199 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 2: When the reviewers came. 200 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 4: They do reviews at at these like UK festivals, and 201 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:46,559 Speaker 4: not that it's part of the UK, but the reviewers came, 202 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 4: so if you'd read the reviews, it would have seemed 203 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 4: like I was having a good time. But after that show, 204 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 4: everything every show went progressively worse and worse. 205 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,079 Speaker 2: I don't know what it was. I mean, first well, 206 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 2: I do know on some level what it was. 207 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:00,839 Speaker 4: I went and saw, you know, Tim Key, you know 208 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 4: who he is, like a really sort of artsy, like 209 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 4: he's crazy hair, maybe very artistic, does a lot of 210 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 4: poems that he pulls out of his pocket like and 211 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 4: really an inspired performer. I when you saw him the 212 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 4: first night and was like, oh god, this guy the 213 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 4: kind of guy that makes you feel jealous. 214 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: When you see that, you're like, oh fuck, this guy's 215 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: baby's doing new shit that I saw that and I 216 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 1: was like, this guy's fucking so good. 217 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 2: Then the by the end of the week, tim Key. 218 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 4: The rumor was that he was having food thrown at 219 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:32,559 Speaker 4: him at his shows. So that was like my saving grace, Like, okay, 220 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 4: tim Key, my artistic sort of jealousy inspirer is getting 221 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 4: like deep Fried hagis costat in a long country I'm good, right, 222 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:46,959 Speaker 4: But at the last show, and not only were they 223 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 4: mean to me and not laughing at me, they were 224 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 4: making they people would make fun of me on the 225 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 4: way home, like like unrelated people. 226 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 2: Not people at the show, just people just way. Yeah. 227 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 4: I'd be walking back to telling people just be like 228 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 4: pointing at me and laughing, Oh my. 229 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 2: God, like head. May I prove my point that it 230 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 2: was not well? 231 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 4: First of all, First of all, they the last show 232 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:14,439 Speaker 4: I did. I was on stage and a guy got 233 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 4: up and very similarly, he just screams next. 234 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:18,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, next is hard to get. 235 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: It's just I know how to cut back, come back 236 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: from Okay, this is an old comeback. 237 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, it's kind of BROI but you suck. 238 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 1: I would say, if someone goes you suck, I would 239 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: go you swallow, go huger dick. 240 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 2: With your butthole. I'd always like to be guaranteed. But 241 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 2: next is hard to I got. 242 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 1: I bombed opening up for Griz Rock. I love rock, 243 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 1: and I got I got a big next and I crumbled. 244 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 2: How can you not cry? 245 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 5: I remember what was this recently now? 246 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 2: I want to say eight or nine years ago. 247 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, he screamed next, and I just thought, I thought, 248 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 4: I hope I want you to die. Next, I want 249 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 4: you to I want you crash into a brick wall 250 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 4: with your family in the car, catch on fire. 251 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 2: And die. 252 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 4: And when I say I thought that, I mean I 253 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 4: screamed that into the microphone as loud as I could go. 254 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 2: No, it does it. 255 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 5: They were on your side there. 256 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 4: So after that show, that was like the eighth bad 257 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 4: show in a row. Bomb after jo after it was 258 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 4: like a crescendo of bombing. And next was the final one. 259 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 4: And I was walking back to my hotel room and 260 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 4: I'd been being made fun of the whole weekend long 261 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 4: and this is it was like one in the morning 262 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 4: and this old man, this old like eighty year old man, 263 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 4: stop me in the streets and he goes, He's like, 264 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 4: what's your name? And I was like it's Moosha. 265 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 2: He goes, what do you What are you doing in Ireland? 266 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 2: And I was like comedy, I guess kind of, And 267 00:11:58,840 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 2: he's like, let me tell. 268 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 7: You something in motion. We appreciate how far you came, 269 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 7: We know how far you traveled to be here. We 270 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 7: appreciate you coming out this way to entertain. Thank you, lad, 271 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 7: thank you for being here. 272 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 4: Wow, and I was like basically, I was like thank you. 273 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 4: You know, I'm like this whole in my mind, I'm 274 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 4: like this hole, No, he was just a man in 275 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 4: the street, okay, and I go this. Everything I said 276 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 4: he was the guy said next. 277 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:32,559 Speaker 2: Came in my mind. 278 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 4: I was like wow this and I go thank you man, 279 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 4: and I'm thinking this re this reinterprets my whole experience here. 280 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 4: I thought that this was a bad place, that these 281 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 4: were bad people, that I was having an alienating and 282 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 4: antagonistic experience. But with this simple little bit of human kindness, 283 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 4: I now realized like I just had some bad luck. 284 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 4: I had a bad set or two, I met some 285 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 4: bad people. Like this human to human interaction made me 286 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 4: reinterpret this whole trip. And I was like thank you, 287 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 4: and I start walking away. I'm like a night sir. 288 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 4: And he calls after me and he goes, hey, mosha, 289 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 4: and I turn around and goes I swear to God, He's. 290 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 5: Like, I'm giving you a finger, and it's like it was. 291 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 2: Like a fucking it was like you know those huts, 292 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 2: you know those things, fucking rude and true, like it 293 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 2: really happened. 294 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 4: It was such a psychedelic form of cruelty that I 295 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 4: couldn't even like, I couldn't even like learn a lesson 296 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 4: from it. It was just like a stone that I 297 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 4: put in my backpack full of human experiences. 298 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: So he like gas lit you with this like overly. 299 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 2: Complimentary, gushing thing. I couldn't. He really took the heart 300 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:49,439 Speaker 2: and then followed up with like. 301 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 4: A fucking play like frozen bar at the World series, 302 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 4: like I couldn't. 303 00:13:56,000 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 2: I was astounded. I was in shock, and I had 304 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 2: so un necessary And. 305 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 4: This is after the eighth bomb in a row, and 306 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 4: the worst one of all, this is my experience on 307 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 4: the walk home. And here's the worst part I had 308 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 4: to By the way, I do know what was going 309 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 4: wrong for me comedically. I was a new comedian and 310 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 4: I didn't know how to pivot, and there was a 311 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 4: disconnect between what I would say and what I meant, 312 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 4: Like if I said something sarcastically, they would take it 313 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 4: at face value. And maybe it was because they couldn't 314 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 4: translate my extreme like hipster bitch americanism, or maybe it 315 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 4: was because I wasn't a sophisticated enough comedian to like 316 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 4: be able to give it over. But I remember I 317 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 4: used to have this opener where I would often people 318 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 4: would I used to have like a weirder look, and 319 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 4: remember my haircut. 320 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 2: Like the like the gittler. I called it the gay 321 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 2: hitler like it was. It's sort of similar to run 322 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 2: I've got going on, but it was more extreme for 323 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 2: the best twenty five years. That's very nice of you 324 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 2: to say, we don't drink, so you age, will you 325 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 2: look good and you do everything? That's true. It's a 326 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 2: half black part. It's not the Jewish bird, that's right. 327 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 5: So all the people do take things literally, well, yeah, I. 328 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 2: Would, they would. 329 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: I remember being also iron irony doesn't translate sometimes. 330 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 6: I was an Amsterdam and I was just like, I 331 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 6: don't think women are funny either, And this woman's like. 332 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 5: If she don't think women are funny, why was she 333 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 5: on the stud in the front row? 334 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 4: Wow, well, you're American too, and there's already strikes against you. 335 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 2: There are. 336 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 4: I would say the crowds in Ireland were unbelievably forgiving 337 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 4: of Irish hackery and unbelievably stingy of anything American. You 338 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 4: were at such a deficit. But if you had, if 339 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 4: you had an Irish accent, you could be straight up 340 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 4: doing road comedy from eighty one and they build. 341 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: It's not music, music's universal, right, comedy's cultural. 342 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 6: I remember I was in Albany and this was really bad. 343 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 6: It was like one of my first headlining gigs and 344 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 6: I bombed pretty bad, and I got a call from 345 00:15:57,520 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 6: my agent and they're like. 346 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 8: Oh boy, we're gonna switch was the opener, Oh boy, you. 347 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 2: Were the head I'm the host almost. 348 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 1: My mom's so bad one time at a Catholic college 349 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 1: that the principle of the school wrote an entire apology 350 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: for my set and my behavior and my agent, my 351 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 1: college agent fired me. 352 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 2: Like that's how hard I bought. 353 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 5: I should think it's cool. 354 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 2: You know. 355 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: I mean she was like a quacka doo like whatever, 356 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 1: fly by night, Like yeah. 357 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 2: She emailed me. 358 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: She goes, I'm getting calls from the school blah blah blah, 359 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: help like this I don't need We're through. And I 360 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: remember being like so heartbroken. This is like I'm not 361 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 1: twenty five six, but it was. I was not prepared 362 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 1: to do an hour clean. I didn't have five minutes 363 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 1: of anything, let alone like an hour of clean. Catholic 364 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: school approved. She was also r and Doug great to 365 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 1: play they're very they're very rigid, they're very UPTIGHTND references. 366 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 5: They don't know who Judy Garland. 367 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:09,679 Speaker 1: Is, like, they have no life experience or if anybody 368 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:10,439 Speaker 1: everything you do. 369 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 2: A lot of Judy Garland, you guys are doing. 370 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 1: I thought when I started doing comedy of my colleges, hell, yeah, 371 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a spring break. 372 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 5: Yeah. 373 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 6: Now they're like, I literally shared a stage. I shared 374 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 6: a stage with Jello wrestling at. 375 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: A college from the Dead Kennedy's legend. 376 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 2: That would be cool. Just like Forty who I saw. 377 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 1: We saw at the NBA All Star Game in San Francisco, 378 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:45,640 Speaker 1: Yes on Valentine's Day, saw you forty high and guy 379 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: fere too shy to say hi to Forty. He was 380 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:50,639 Speaker 1: made a conversation. I was too chickened out, but I 381 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 1: did say hi to Guy Fiery. I said he gave 382 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 1: me tequila out of a plastic very nice. I'm sure 383 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: Forty was like a cool ass dude. 384 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 2: For sure, not you, and I couldn't. 385 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 3: I was. 386 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 2: I saw e forty on a flight once and did 387 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,159 Speaker 2: say hi. I remember this story. I tell you this. 388 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 2: I actually think I had a story because I'll give 389 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 2: you this. I think I have his cell phone number 390 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 2: because but I remember there was a big scary looking 391 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 2: for me vividly really, and I've told other people this story. 392 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 2: Go ahead. 393 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:21,679 Speaker 4: I was on a Southwest flight and a really scary 394 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 4: looking guy comes on and reserves an entire row on 395 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 4: Southwest and stands there like, no one can sit here. 396 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:30,919 Speaker 4: And one minute before takeoff, E forty ran on the 397 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 4: flight and I was like, that is Southwest first class 398 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:36,120 Speaker 4: right there. You just hire somebody cool to say no, 399 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 4: you can't sit here. And I said hi to him, 400 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:41,360 Speaker 4: and I was like, I did it again. I go forty. 401 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 4: It's like my rock thing. What's wrong with me? Why 402 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 4: I keep doing this? The famous black Man? I said, forty, 403 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 4: I'm a big fan. And he looked at me very skeptically. 404 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 4: He's like mm hm, cause he had just come up 405 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:53,679 Speaker 4: out with tell Me When to Go, which was like 406 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 4: his big hit, and he thought that I was a 407 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 4: fly by night, you know, yeah, And I said no, 408 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:02,159 Speaker 4: I've been listening to since Federal, which was his his 409 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:04,959 Speaker 4: real his first album. Where I remember I was at 410 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:09,440 Speaker 4: the Seneca Center for Severely emotionally Disturbed Youngsters when the hecker, Yeah, 411 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:12,400 Speaker 4: when the head counselor told me about forty, said there's 412 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 4: this new rapper and he wraps off beat. You should 413 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 4: check him out. And then I was thirteen years old 414 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 4: and I said federal. And I saw the look in 415 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 4: his eyes under his like John Lennon glassation, and he 416 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 4: was like for real and he got I think he 417 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 4: got excited that a guy that looked as dorky as 418 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 4: I that was a deep cut yea that year. 419 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:35,199 Speaker 2: And he gave me hisself. I believe it's possible. You 420 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:36,719 Speaker 2: still have a cell and you're gonna give it to us. 421 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:38,439 Speaker 2: Now I can put it on camera. 422 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 5: No, wait, did he give you the right number? 423 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:41,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. 424 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 3: With Aridre, with Aerdrey. 425 00:19:56,720 --> 00:20:00,040 Speaker 1: Okay, so you've told me this a million times. But 426 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 1: you were hasidic or something and then you did drugs. 427 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it, you got you got the bullet points, 428 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 2: that's all. Wait when did you start doing drugs? 429 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 5: He was not His dad was or but he was 430 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 5: praised by his mom. 431 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 6: Dad was a part time and the concept spend a 432 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 6: month a year with his dad in like a very 433 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 6: Jewish area, well in the Bay. 434 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:25,640 Speaker 2: My dad, Wait, where are you from. 435 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 4: I'm from Oakland, but I was born in New York 436 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 4: and my dad lived in Seagate in Brooklyn. 437 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:32,360 Speaker 1: And is there's something Whenever white people tell me they're 438 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 1: from Oakland, I don't believe them, even though there are 439 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: white people from Oakland. 440 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:38,160 Speaker 6: Remember you, Shawn Lynch and Mosha goes, I'm from Oakland 441 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 6: because Marshaw's I went to Teck. 442 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:44,119 Speaker 2: And Marsha High School. Like Oakland. It's where he went 443 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 2: to high school and I went to high school. 444 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 5: Shawn goes, No, you didn't. 445 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 2: Know you did. What do you mean? Yes, I did, 446 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 2: but it was kind of cool. I kind of liked that. 447 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm like, whenever I meet white people, you don't 448 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 1: think that they I don't think that they exist there, 449 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 1: but they do and I know they do, but my 450 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 1: brain take it always takes a second. 451 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 2: You know what I do as I go. If you're white, 452 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:08,120 Speaker 2: why'd you grow up there? Yeah? The world's your oyster. 453 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 2: The world was not my oyster. We were super broke. 454 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, my parents are deaf. They're deaf. Yeah, you 455 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 2: didn't know this. 456 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: My dad was deaf. What he had scarlet fever? My 457 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: dad was born in Haiti in the forties. 458 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 2: Did you give me ship for saying scuttle about your 459 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:26,400 Speaker 2: dad had scarlet fever. 460 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: Scarlet fever, and they gave him some drops in his ears. 461 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 1: It didn't do shit, and he lost total hearing in 462 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:34,400 Speaker 1: one ear and like. 463 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 2: Had partial hearing. 464 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,640 Speaker 5: Did he ever learn asl American sign? 465 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 1: No, He was so like, I'm not deaf and never 466 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 1: wear a hearing aid until like the end of his life. 467 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 1: He finally they finally made one small enough and in 468 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:50,640 Speaker 1: his skin color that was hidden enough, and he wore 469 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 1: for a while. 470 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 2: Then he could finally hear us. 471 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 1: It was like he was finally chiming into conversations. And 472 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 1: then my sister pointed it out. She's like, oh, Dad, awesome, 473 00:21:57,560 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 1: you're wearing your hearing aid. And then he took it 474 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:01,399 Speaker 1: out and he never it back in. I'm so like 475 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 1: a shame. It's a shame around it. 476 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,360 Speaker 2: My parents were no offense. Your dad really deaf. 477 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 5: Well you grew up in that culture, but they were. 478 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 4: But they were actually deaf, like a hearing aid wouldn't 479 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:13,880 Speaker 4: have helped. But my dad was the same way. 480 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,679 Speaker 1: Well, I mean one year was there's different levels for 481 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: deftness and blindness. 482 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 2: What I'm not deaf, kidding, he's not. He wasn't asl 483 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 2: or Haitian sl or whatever. I wonder if they what 484 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 2: they use in Haiti. I bet there's no hospitals in Haiti. 485 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 4: I bet you they use ASL and Haiti. That'd be 486 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 4: my guest. My guess is at the US ASL and Haiti. 487 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 3: They don't you. 488 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,199 Speaker 2: You're just like on you You're just pointing at stuff. 489 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 2: And I've been there. Those are hearing people and get here. 490 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 3: Wait. 491 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 2: Wait, so what's the story. Your parents were never married. 492 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 4: My parents were married. They were when you were one 493 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 4: for a long time. They divorced when I was nine 494 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:53,160 Speaker 4: months old and my mom left. I have one brother, 495 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:55,160 Speaker 4: one brother. I have a half sister, a half brother 496 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 4: and a step sister. 497 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 2: The brother is a full brother. So you were the 498 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 2: second kid. I was the second and then they called 499 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:02,439 Speaker 2: it quits when once they met me, they were like, 500 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:06,160 Speaker 2: this isn't working. We're out. And I moved to Oakland 501 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 2: from Queen's and when my dad, okay, parents are together. 502 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 2: You're born in Queen's. That's right. They split. You go 503 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 2: with dad to Oakland. 504 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 4: No, my mom mom, My mom tells my dad were 505 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 4: going on on a summer vacation to see my grandma. 506 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 4: We never came back. And I actually have a calendar. 507 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 4: I found a calendar of my dad crossing off B 508 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:27,120 Speaker 4: and the boys come home and then it just stops. 509 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 4: And that's when his Hasidic life began. 510 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:33,160 Speaker 2: He like in the he converted. No, he grew up. 511 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 2: I mean this is so called long hard. Yeah. 512 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:40,880 Speaker 4: My grand his grandparents were like Hasidic Jews in Brooklyn. 513 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 4: My dad, my grandfather was like a Communist Yiddish novelist, 514 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 4: and my grandmother was like a member of the American 515 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 4: Communist Party. 516 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 1: Like my grandparents were Communist Jews. 517 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 2: Sure they knew my bio grandma. 518 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 1: Great grandmother was like an anarchist Jew, but she was 519 00:23:56,560 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 1: Hasidic at first, left the Hasidim when to London, shaved 520 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:05,880 Speaker 1: your head and became an anarchist in like eighteen eighty eight, sisters. 521 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 2: This is my mom's grandmother. 522 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 1: But my mom's parents were Commie Juice in New York. 523 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 4: In Yeah, I could almost guarantee they knew my grandparents probably. 524 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 4: I mean it was a very that was a very 525 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 4: small world. I could almost guarantee it. 526 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 1: Okay, Then you moved to Oakland with mom. Dad becomes 527 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 1: super Jewish, super mom, and you grew up in Oakland. 528 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: But then you do drugs when you're twelve because you 529 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 1: have a bipolar disorder or something. 530 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:30,879 Speaker 2: You got it, man, I mean, there's no need to 531 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 2: interview me. 532 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:31,880 Speaker 3: He doesn't. 533 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 2: No, I don't have no biblear disorder. 534 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:34,159 Speaker 3: No. 535 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 4: I was a twelve year old kid in Oakland, white boy, 536 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 4: trying to be cool, and I found drugs, went to 537 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:40,919 Speaker 4: public school. I went to public school. 538 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, and but why but there was like a depression. 539 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: You were coping with a depression. It wasn't drugs to 540 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 1: like explore consciousness. 541 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 6: Well, how much can you explore consciousness when you're fourteen 542 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 6: doing acid just trying to have fun in art class? 543 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 3: Right? 544 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 2: Or like, I don't know. 545 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 1: You're coming of age and you're you're figuring out your 546 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 1: interview as an adult, and you know, well, the way 547 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 1: that that's true. 548 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 4: The truth is that I was born in uh an 549 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 4: outsider in like five different cultures. I was white in Oakland. 550 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 4: I was hearing in a deaf family. I was a 551 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 4: secular kid in the Hasidic world, and vice versa. 552 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 2: And mom, your mom was not hissiting, No. 553 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 4: Just my mom's fully secular and stole us away from 554 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:27,159 Speaker 4: my dad and raised us like regular kids, public school, 555 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,640 Speaker 4: just fully secular life. And I would literally fly back 556 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 4: to New York six weeks a year and kind of 557 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:34,640 Speaker 4: like cosplay as Heavy of the Milkman for. 558 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,119 Speaker 2: Six weeks a year. Like it was. It was a Yiddish. 559 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 4: Speaking community in Brooklyn. It wasn't an Orthodox community. It 560 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 4: was an ultra Hasidic community. We used to play dodgeball 561 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 4: between the Hasidic kids and like between the ultra Orthodox 562 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 4: kids that was my team and the actually religious year 563 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 4: you have the oh yeah, I would put them on 564 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:53,120 Speaker 4: at the airport because my dad was. 565 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 1: Oh so you would cosplay yeah as like deeply religious dude, 566 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: I just when you were hanging out with dad, yeah 567 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 1: and everything, and the kids. 568 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:05,679 Speaker 5: Would make fun of you for not knowing. 569 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, so you anywhere anywhere I was. 570 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 6: And that's part of the fascination of Judaism, right, because 571 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 6: you were never accepted into that way. 572 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 2: Do you mean why I like it now? I think so? 573 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 3: Really? 574 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 2: I think I mean I got cousins, dude, for real 575 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 2: that have. 576 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 4: Eastern European accents that are second generation American in Brooklyn, 577 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 4: born in America, and they sound like a doctor Jivago like. 578 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:34,719 Speaker 2: Their parents. 579 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,919 Speaker 4: Their parents don't have Eastern European accents because their parents 580 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:41,400 Speaker 4: were immigrants kids, and so immigrants will tell your kids, hey, 581 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 4: don't be immigranty don't don't betray or be American. So 582 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 4: they'd send them to they would sound like Americans. But 583 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 4: then by the time they had kids, they would be 584 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 4: like comfortable, they would be comfortable in the in this country, 585 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,199 Speaker 4: and they would send them to only Yidish speaking. 586 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 2: Oh no, no, I can't even read Hebrew. I can't. Yeah, 587 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 2: I mean that was my problem. Yeah, I couldn't even 588 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:03,400 Speaker 2: read Hebrew. Oh yeah, that's big. 589 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,439 Speaker 4: And they I would have these are English Yiddish as 590 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 4: a first language speakers, and I can't even read Hebrew. 591 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 4: It was it was a fucking nightmare. And so when 592 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 4: I found drugs just to answer the question, I found 593 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,119 Speaker 4: for the first time, not that I fit in, but 594 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 4: that fitting in didn't matter anymore, like all the differences 595 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,879 Speaker 4: that I'd ever experienced, like disintegrated, and I. 596 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 2: You when you were twelve thirteen, you're coming of age 597 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 2: and you're depressed. I guess I was depressed. 598 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 4: I was angry. I had oppositional definers, conduct disorders. 599 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 1: Smart and you don't feel like you fit in how 600 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 1: was I was school? Were you good at school? 601 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:36,640 Speaker 2: Oh? No? 602 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:41,199 Speaker 1: So school struggling, eighth grade dropout? So when did you 603 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 1: start doing a ton of drugs? 604 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 2: Twelve? And when did you go to bad kids School? Thirteen? 605 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 2: And when did you stop doing drugs? Fifteen? Almost sixteen? 606 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 1: Okay, so's twelve to sixteen. It's chaos, pure chaos. But 607 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 1: what drugs were you doing? 608 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,640 Speaker 4: Just a lot of acid and mushrooms and alcohol and 609 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 4: weed and nothing fun. 610 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 2: I mean, something exciting. Cocain? No, uh uh, meth. 611 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 4: I feel like I always disappoint people and they ask 612 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 4: me this question heron. No, No, it's a little bit 613 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 4: of math, a. 614 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:08,199 Speaker 2: Little bit of math. 615 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,639 Speaker 1: But I mean you were self anesthetizing. You weren't exploring consciousness. 616 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:13,640 Speaker 1: It wasn't for sure, It wasn't a good part. 617 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 4: I would take acid and stare at a pylon at 618 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:16,639 Speaker 4: a bart station for eight hours. 619 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 3: You were going through it. 620 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, you were going through it. But you haven't touched 621 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 2: anything since you were a kid, really, since you were 622 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 2: a teenager? Yeah, since I was FI too long? Did 623 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 2: you do AA and n A? I did a hardcore 624 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:30,160 Speaker 2: for a very. 625 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:31,439 Speaker 5: Long Are you thirty years sober? 626 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 3: Yeah? 627 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 2: Well, I'm forty five. So would you do. 628 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 1: With the support of your sponsor, your therapist, whoever, whatever 629 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 1: support you need, your wife, your kid, blah blah blah. 630 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 1: Would you try in a therapeutic setting, any type of 631 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 1: therapeutic psychedelic I would cry, like the ketamine clinic or 632 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 1: the ayahuasca retrieve. 633 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 2: Now, yeah, I would do coke with you at a bar. 634 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 2: You would shut the fuck just for fun. Okay, let's 635 00:28:59,600 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 2: do it. 636 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 4: I thought very seriously about doing psychedelics again, and I 637 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 4: was I had decided, right, tosh I. 638 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 1: Because I don't think you are the same person you 639 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 1: were twelve, thirteen, fourteen years old. 640 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 5: I don't need them right now. 641 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 1: The forty five year old Mosha is different than twelve 642 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 1: year old struggling I'm cosplaying as a Hasidic kid. 643 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 2: I'm the white kid. 644 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 6: Okay, but can I just say my experience at Oakland 645 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 6: School of Mosha's personality is when he gets into something, 646 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 6: he gets really into it. 647 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 5: Like when he got into taping. We would have like. 648 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 6: Sixteen different packages of vapes from England and London and 649 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 6: everything color. 650 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 2: I'm just saying, like true, but he gets. 651 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 6: He has a bag of vape that he would travel in. 652 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:44,719 Speaker 2: I don't think that's really true. 653 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 5: But as he puts this in in that he no, 654 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 5: it's your journey. 655 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 2: Hold on, I'm gonna do it ones in a one breaker. 656 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 2: But that's the grand I'm just saying, like, that's. 657 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 4: The grand mind fuck of being sober and getting sober 658 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 4: young in a in a variety based model, which I 659 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 4: think is the best model. Actually, if you're a drug addict, 660 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 4: is to quit completely. But the mind fuck is thirty 661 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 4: years later, it's pretty hard to make a case that 662 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 4: you're not a completely different person. I mean, it's a 663 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 4: little different if you. 664 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 5: Have the addictive quality. 665 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 4: But it's a little But it's it's a mind fuck 666 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 4: because it's not. It's obviously true that I'm a completely 667 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 4: different person in every possible set of criteria. But it's 668 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 4: also true that people who have been profoundly transformed by 669 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 4: sobriety decide to take a psychedelic thirty years later, take it, 670 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 4: and then they start drinking, and then their lives fall 671 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 4: apart and then they're all fucked out. Both things are true, 672 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 4: Like I could be fine, I could be fucked I 673 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 4: really don't know, and there's one way to find out, 674 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 4: and it's a kind of third rail, it's a kind 675 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 4: of it's a it's a parachute jump. And that's the 676 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 4: scary part. And I've thought about it, and it's it's difficult. 677 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 4: It's a difficult decision. 678 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 2: To your daughter's in college and fucking go to the 679 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 2: do DMT would. 680 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,479 Speaker 5: That's a great idea. Wait till she's in college. 681 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 1: Okay, the girls, what if she gets a hot run, 682 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 1: you're out. 683 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 6: Oh. Most had a colonoscopy recently and he was on 684 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 6: some kind of drug and it was so fun. 685 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 5: He was just walking through this. I'm like, where's this guy? 686 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 3: Yeah? 687 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 2: They call that free lapse, right, free lapse. That was awesome, man. 688 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 5: But the but it only lasted like fourteen minutes. 689 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:20,959 Speaker 2: It was so fun, so scientific. 690 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 4: I wish I had had a kind of incompetent and 691 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 4: Estheti's aologist, because you know, they tied it so perfectly 692 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 4: that by the time I was in the parking lot, 693 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 4: I was already sobering up. Yeah, like, give me a 694 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 4: little give me twenty minutes, dude, let me enjoy this. 695 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 5: But it wasn't. It was a lightness. 696 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 6: But I think Mosha decided when we were having a 697 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 6: kid and I was pregnant. 698 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 5: No, this isn't really worth it. Well to go experiment. 699 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 2: I was going to do it day you drop her 700 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 2: off a college? Yeah? 701 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 5: Could? 702 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 2: That's all right? Fun because then if he goes off 703 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 2: the d bend, you could just be like, later, dude, you. 704 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 5: Have fun with him or whatever. 705 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 2: Years Well that's so int I mean, if he goes 706 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 2: to like Arowin Downer, I'm no part of me is 707 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 2: worried about that. 708 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 5: I'm worried about him. 709 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 6: My biggest worry about Mosh is him going to a 710 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 6: bar where there's like a mixologist and him wanting to 711 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 6: try every single different sweet. 712 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 5: Cocting, you know, like he'd be like what is gin taste? 713 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 5: Like what is tequilan? 714 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 4: I don't want to drink. I have no I mean, 715 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 4: I have no desire to drink. Just a person that's 716 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 4: been sober around everybody, every one of our peers and friends. 717 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 4: I will tell you that the people on alcohol, I 718 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 4: know that they're annoying. They're the most annoyed of all 719 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 4: the drunks out of all and they the most like, 720 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 4: they don't look healthy, they aren't fun to talk to. 721 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 2: Drunk is whack. 722 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 5: They're like screaming in your face. They suck. 723 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,960 Speaker 4: They suck, and they don't notice any social cues except one. 724 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,479 Speaker 4: There's one social cue that drunk people notice, which is 725 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 4: you telling them that them being drunk is a little 726 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 4: too much for them. Then they're like, oh, hyper notice, 727 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 4: Like they get really sensitive, like but if you if 728 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 4: you give subtle cues, they won't take it. Coke not fun, 729 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 4: not fun, but orders of magnitude more fun than drinking, 730 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 4: and then it then it becomes the fun drugs. I 731 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 4: love being around people on psychedelics, like couldn't That's my 732 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 4: favorite because they're fun to talk to, They're cool to 733 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 4: be around. 734 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 2: What do you think about California sober? What did you 735 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 2: just start smoking a little grass? 736 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 3: Uh? 737 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 2: You think that's bad too? 738 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 3: Huh? 739 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 2: It's weed? You are? 740 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 4: You would be a great like drug and alcohol counselor. 741 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 2: I think it would be, yeah, because they think it's 742 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 2: too much. 743 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:24,520 Speaker 6: Why would the weed not make Why would he not 744 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 6: have his obsessive nature with the weed, all the swivers, 745 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 6: all the different edibles. 746 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 4: Millionaire dude, I have this memory. Hello, it's so funny. 747 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 4: I haven't thought about this in so many years, but 748 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 4: I have this memory. The first rehab I ever went 749 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 4: to his place called thunder Road in Oakland, which doesn't 750 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 4: exist anymore. I was in this outpatient like like for 751 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 4: first time offenders, like youth youth rehab after school thing, 752 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 4: and this guy was giving a lecture like that. He's 753 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 4: like new drugs, drugs destroy your life, they make you 754 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 4: you'd never be successful. And I remember, I go, what 755 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 4: about Jimmy Hendrix man and he goes, he looks at 756 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 4: me totally sincerely, goes, think about the music he could 757 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 4: have made if he didn't do drugs. 758 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 5: He could have done it for longer. 759 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 2: That's true, he did. He made the wrong argumentment. Guess what. 760 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 1: I went to Willie Nelson's ninetieth birthday show three years ago. 761 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 2: The guy's still. 762 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 1: Touring and doing more drugs than you could ever imagine. 763 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:29,879 Speaker 5: Okay, well let me ask you this. Don't you think 764 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:31,719 Speaker 5: some people's brain chemistry. 765 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 3: Yeah? 766 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 1: Absolutely. I think addiction is actually genetic and it runs 767 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 1: in the family. So if your if your dad, grandpa 768 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 1: had any shit, it's. 769 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 2: Probably not worth it. 770 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:40,440 Speaker 6: And I do think sometimes people can have like one 771 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 6: or two drinks and they just really can't handle alcohol. 772 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 2: I think that too. 773 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:44,359 Speaker 3: I don't. 774 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 1: I also don't think I think there's I think that 775 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,440 Speaker 1: alcohol and psychedelics are not equivalent. 776 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:53,439 Speaker 2: I think they work in but. 777 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 5: That's not to me. 778 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,400 Speaker 2: But here's the thing. You might not understand it. But 779 00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,240 Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, I don't loop alcohol in. 780 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 4: With Here's the thing you might not understand. You're one 781 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 4: hundred percent correct that mushrooms, psychedelics, all of that, they're 782 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 4: qualitatively different than alcohol and every other truly. 783 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 2: Addictive, physically addictive. 784 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:15,320 Speaker 4: Drug in that you know, if you kidnapped your grandma 785 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,799 Speaker 4: and and you know, chained her in a basement and 786 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 4: made her drink alcohol all day, every day for a year, 787 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:25,760 Speaker 4: she would she wouldn't be able to detox. About medical intervention, 788 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 4: every single person would become addicted to those things. But 789 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 4: the thing about being sober, it's much it's more of 790 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,839 Speaker 4: a like psychic thing. It's like you have a I 791 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 4: call it a I think of it as a membrane. 792 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 4: There's like a super thin membrane between sobriety and non sobriety. 793 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,839 Speaker 4: Right once you pierce the membrane, you're on the other 794 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:49,280 Speaker 4: side of the membrane. You're no longer you no longer 795 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 4: have the like decades or years of momentum and stricture 796 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,239 Speaker 4: between you in the sober world and you in the 797 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 4: non sober world. So it's a lot easier to go 798 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:08,080 Speaker 4: from from mushrooms and ketamine to drinking a cocktail after 799 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 4: dinner to drinking a cocktail every night to becoming an 800 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,839 Speaker 4: alcoholic than it is to go from I don't drink 801 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:14,400 Speaker 4: at all. I don't do any drugs. There's like this, 802 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,960 Speaker 4: there's a there's a line, like I said, a third rail, 803 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:19,880 Speaker 4: and you have to get past a third rail, and 804 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 4: it's it's scary in that I don't think I am 805 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:27,160 Speaker 4: genetically I don't believe myself anymore to be a genetic alcoholic. 806 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 2: I don't think that. I don't know, but I don't 807 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 2: think that that's true. 808 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,839 Speaker 5: You're certainly very lucid from being sober. I like it. 809 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 4: I don't have a bad life that I need to 810 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 4: improve upon. But I do feel disappointment that I never 811 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 4: got to do psychedelics in the way that I could 812 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,399 Speaker 4: have done them, because I do think that they're one 813 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 4: of the like gifts of the universe for the human experience, 814 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,279 Speaker 4: like childbirth, which you'll never experience. 815 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:50,920 Speaker 5: Like me and I don't really experience it. 816 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:54,120 Speaker 2: They like, I mean having a kid, you want a kid? 817 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:57,799 Speaker 2: I got to be right now, and I'm like, I'm 818 00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:59,040 Speaker 2: like looking to get rid of this thing. 819 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:18,359 Speaker 3: After a week with Aridre, with Aridrey. 820 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:21,120 Speaker 6: Since Eric's contractually obligated, I'm sure to talk about bombing. 821 00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:21,719 Speaker 5: I have another one. 822 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 2: Give it to me. 823 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:24,760 Speaker 5: Well this isn't really on stage. 824 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 6: But when I first moved to LA, I really really 825 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:28,840 Speaker 6: wanted to get. 826 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,359 Speaker 5: A picture on a red carpet. So sad. 827 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 6: Friend was like, okay, I got a hook up, come 828 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:37,799 Speaker 6: dressed up, because I was like, if I can get 829 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 6: a red carpet picture, I was very ambitious. 830 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:41,600 Speaker 5: I was like, I need to get a picture. I 831 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:43,440 Speaker 5: think it's before I even started doing stand up. 832 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:48,600 Speaker 6: Where you from Illinois? So but I no, Rockford, Illinois. 833 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 6: Yeah but it's not a suburb. 834 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:54,600 Speaker 2: But it's not goin Yeah yeah yeah yeah bipolo y bipolo. 835 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,279 Speaker 6: So my friend's like, okay, come to I think it 836 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 6: was like where did where did River Phoenix? Guy? 837 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 2: I don't know that the viper room. 838 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 6: It was like the it was like a rock clack. 839 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:07,719 Speaker 6: It was like solo rent to begin with. It was 840 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:11,839 Speaker 6: like literally like a red carpeting and I get on 841 00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:15,280 Speaker 6: this carpet to walk like some no name rock show, 842 00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 6: and I do my pose because I can't. One guy 843 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:22,560 Speaker 6: out there. As I do my pose, he looks at 844 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,440 Speaker 6: me and gives me a finger wag like like, I like, 845 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 6: won't take your picture? 846 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:28,680 Speaker 5: Taking your picture? You know you don't belong to me. 847 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,840 Speaker 6: It was so embarrassing and like, I don't know what 848 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:37,719 Speaker 6: my friend was like I thought he would take your picture. 849 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:42,960 Speaker 4: And dude, fast forward, I'm here, No, fast forward, fast 850 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:46,759 Speaker 4: forward twenty years, Fast forward twenty years. I was nominated 851 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:51,560 Speaker 4: for an Emmy and I brought Natasha to the Emmys 852 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,840 Speaker 4: and we were walking the red carpet my nomination. Now, listen, 853 00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:56,920 Speaker 4: I'm used. 854 00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,759 Speaker 2: To being at events when Natasha is the is the 855 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:01,040 Speaker 2: I'm merry character. 856 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:01,440 Speaker 3: I'm not. 857 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,640 Speaker 2: I'm not upset about that. I love it. I'm proud 858 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,600 Speaker 2: of everything she said. But she was just your date. 859 00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,080 Speaker 2: She's my fucking day. And they were like, get out 860 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,120 Speaker 2: of the get out of her way, straight up. 861 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:14,880 Speaker 1: The talk to them, and I get to the she 862 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:21,239 Speaker 1: you didn't, you were like, no, she loved it. 863 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:26,120 Speaker 6: Every and Emmy is communal property. 864 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:28,440 Speaker 4: We get to the end of the of the of 865 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,399 Speaker 4: the red carpet and I said to her, go, that's 866 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:32,879 Speaker 4: a little weird, like you know, this is I'm kind 867 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:34,839 Speaker 4: of the one that was nominated. And she goes back 868 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,520 Speaker 4: to your credit. She goes back and she goes, okay, 869 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:39,080 Speaker 4: go back, and I walked back. 870 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:40,080 Speaker 2: It is pathetic. 871 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,360 Speaker 4: I walked back up the line and it was like 872 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:44,000 Speaker 4: I walked back up the line. 873 00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,280 Speaker 2: I'm like hey, and the guy goes, we're good. 874 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,439 Speaker 6: But I was like no. I was very adamant because 875 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,040 Speaker 6: I was like, this is your Emmy. You have to 876 00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,440 Speaker 6: get a picture. I didn't realize that was happening. 877 00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:55,600 Speaker 5: Sorry to my credit. 878 00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:57,319 Speaker 6: I was just like going through the line, trying to 879 00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:58,560 Speaker 6: get it over with without. 880 00:39:58,360 --> 00:39:59,000 Speaker 2: I wasn't there. 881 00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:05,080 Speaker 4: But then we want and I walked back with a 882 00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,399 Speaker 4: fucking Emmy and I looked at the guy and I'm 883 00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:08,640 Speaker 4: like like this, he didn't. 884 00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,080 Speaker 2: He still didn't recognize. 885 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:16,680 Speaker 5: You can bottom feet get upset about that. 886 00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:21,239 Speaker 1: To the Righteous Gemstones premiere there like a few weeks ago, 887 00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,080 Speaker 1: and the same kind of thing, like they did pictures 888 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:24,640 Speaker 1: of me. I was in the fucking show and then 889 00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:26,200 Speaker 1: they were like, all right, get out of her way, 890 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,680 Speaker 1: and then she did solo pictures. She was what the 891 00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:36,200 Speaker 1: young camera she was like, what, there's all these pictures 892 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,600 Speaker 1: that were like ship, you. 893 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,319 Speaker 6: Know, you'd be good doing like the pissed off look 894 00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,160 Speaker 6: that just think about. 895 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:45,400 Speaker 2: That's called smising. 896 00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:47,200 Speaker 5: No, it's not even smiling. 897 00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:51,200 Speaker 2: You're just kind of frowsing your eyes. 898 00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:53,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, just kind of look out into the distance like 899 00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:54,760 Speaker 5: you're kind of pissed. 900 00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 2: I think she was cute with us at that same event. 901 00:40:58,800 --> 00:40:59,520 Speaker 5: I have to smile. 902 00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:01,560 Speaker 6: It makes me look young, so I'm always like trying 903 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:02,400 Speaker 6: to give my smile. 904 00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,120 Speaker 4: Well, you're great on camera. I mean, everybody loves you. 905 00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,600 Speaker 4: They love you. You're you're a blossom. 906 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,439 Speaker 2: You're a natural treasure. You're a kid at forty three, 907 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,320 Speaker 2: ageless beauty. That's hardcore. 908 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,400 Speaker 5: Fifty one. Yeah, she's seven. 909 00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:15,600 Speaker 2: Are you fifty one? 910 00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:16,000 Speaker 7: Yeah? 911 00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:16,600 Speaker 2: You're great. 912 00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:18,719 Speaker 5: Thanks. That's why I said I'm fifty one, you know, 913 00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:20,759 Speaker 5: to try to get that you know that. 914 00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:25,359 Speaker 2: Age really well? Uh, my cousin, Vinnie, what's your name? 915 00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:25,920 Speaker 5: Marissa? 916 00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:28,200 Speaker 2: Your cousin. 917 00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:33,520 Speaker 6: Hey, you know another old hot chick, Another old Italian bag. 918 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,440 Speaker 2: I know, I know an Italian bag that looks straight 919 00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:42,759 Speaker 2: mas Italian. I am a bag of bricks. It's still 920 00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:44,000 Speaker 2: ain't well. 921 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:45,680 Speaker 6: I did do twenty three and me and found out 922 00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:47,960 Speaker 6: I was Sardinian. Since we've gone down, Moses, I. 923 00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:51,719 Speaker 2: Went to Sardinia recently. It's like Sicily, right, I never 924 00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:52,320 Speaker 2: been in Sicily. 925 00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:56,600 Speaker 6: Well, Sardinian people are one of the blue zones. So 926 00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:00,040 Speaker 6: those are the zones people stay alive the longest, and 927 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,640 Speaker 6: and if you study there, it's like they eat beans and. 928 00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:06,160 Speaker 5: A walk everywhere, a drink red wine and hang out with. 929 00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:09,319 Speaker 6: Their family and that's about it. And I'm like, that's 930 00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,320 Speaker 6: my that's my goal is to live into. 931 00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:16,520 Speaker 4: My user whatever. The opposite thought, is any any other bombs? Well, 932 00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,399 Speaker 4: I have the other great bomb of my. 933 00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,080 Speaker 2: The Irish guy is crazy. 934 00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,520 Speaker 1: It was pretty brutal, you know, you know Doug Pound's 935 00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,200 Speaker 1: bomb besides your podcast where you amiliated him? 936 00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,239 Speaker 2: Why didn't humiliate dog? You didn't stick up for him. 937 00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:32,279 Speaker 2: I was intimidating. You're his friend, You're right, messed up? 938 00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:32,560 Speaker 5: Motion. 939 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:34,640 Speaker 2: I was intimidated? Was Chris Rock? What am I going 940 00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:36,840 Speaker 2: to do? Chris intimidating? What am I gonna do? 941 00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:37,080 Speaker 3: Hey? 942 00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,320 Speaker 2: Leave him? Leave DJ Doug Pound alone. 943 00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,239 Speaker 6: Chris Rock, Okay, I'll tell you something. You know who 944 00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,400 Speaker 6: else is intimidating? While most of thinks of his last bomb. 945 00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:46,520 Speaker 6: I remember once I auditioned for Seinfeld for to be 946 00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,840 Speaker 6: a co host on some show he was producing, and 947 00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:50,680 Speaker 6: they told me before I went in the room, They're like, Okay, 948 00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,200 Speaker 6: don't do any bits for Seinfeld. It's like a thing. 949 00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,279 Speaker 6: Everybody's always trying to do bits for him. You know, 950 00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,920 Speaker 6: just talk to him. He's he's really into people, not 951 00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,319 Speaker 6: to comedians, not doing bits. Oh yeah, I got you. 952 00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:02,759 Speaker 6: The second I saw him, I just started rambling. It 953 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:15,640 Speaker 6: couldn't help it. I literally remembering him getting a backpack 954 00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:17,600 Speaker 6: because it seemed weird that he had a backpack and 955 00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:19,080 Speaker 6: leaving during my interview. 956 00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:20,920 Speaker 5: Because it was with a few people. 957 00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,239 Speaker 6: It was for like Tom Papa had a had a 958 00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,800 Speaker 6: TV show he was hosting and he needed a sidekick, 959 00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,680 Speaker 6: and Jerry was Love's Tom Papa and he was the producer. 960 00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:31,919 Speaker 5: I forget what it's called, like the marriage ref maybe 961 00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:32,480 Speaker 5: it was something. 962 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,319 Speaker 1: Oh so he's just producing. But they were like, don't prod, 963 00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:36,600 Speaker 1: don't bit it up with him. 964 00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:40,200 Speaker 5: Yah. It was a very small just Tom. 965 00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:44,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, Tom and Jerry. You went in there like a 966 00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:48,960 Speaker 2: cat instant girl. 967 00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,960 Speaker 6: No, but people have that, especially like if you're like 968 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:55,840 Speaker 6: a hierarch hierarchical type of person. Especially, I mean, my 969 00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:57,719 Speaker 6: values have changed since I moved here, but you know, 970 00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,480 Speaker 6: I used to be obsessed with becoming successful, and I 971 00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,040 Speaker 6: was very ambitious. And when you meet someone who is 972 00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:08,680 Speaker 6: above you, it comes comes from wanting a career. You know, 973 00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,239 Speaker 6: when I was little, my parents were divorced very young, 974 00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,279 Speaker 6: and my dad was abusive to my mom, and I 975 00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:17,040 Speaker 6: had no happy place except the theater. And I grew 976 00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:20,480 Speaker 6: up as a child actress, and that was, yeah, in 977 00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:23,719 Speaker 6: theater in Chicago, and you know, that was kind of 978 00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,759 Speaker 6: my happy place. And so I think, I mean, if 979 00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:28,279 Speaker 6: you're asking where it comes from, this is the very 980 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:32,000 Speaker 6: truncated version, is like, oh, when I'm when I'm in theater, 981 00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,799 Speaker 6: which translated into comedy, which you know, it's like, this 982 00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:36,319 Speaker 6: is where I. 983 00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:38,919 Speaker 2: Can tell them the agent story. This is a good bomb. 984 00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,120 Speaker 2: This is really it's so funny, it's so good. 985 00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,120 Speaker 5: You don't have to tell them when I was in 986 00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:45,960 Speaker 5: New York. So, you know, my whole life, I'm like, 987 00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:46,760 Speaker 5: I have to be an actress. 988 00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:48,160 Speaker 6: I have to be an actress is my only hope 989 00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,960 Speaker 6: for anything, you know, and also wanting to like be 990 00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:54,520 Speaker 6: surpass your family of being poor, and you know, it's 991 00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:57,520 Speaker 6: a way out, and but I, you know, I finally 992 00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:59,359 Speaker 6: got close. I lived in New York for five years 993 00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,520 Speaker 6: and I finally got close to getting an agent. And 994 00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:03,520 Speaker 6: I had like a third callback and I had to 995 00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:06,400 Speaker 6: do this monologue. And I did this monologue of Darlene 996 00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:09,560 Speaker 6: from Balming Gilead, and I had watched Laurie Metcalf do it, 997 00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:11,880 Speaker 6: and I kind of was doing an impression of her. 998 00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:15,400 Speaker 6: But it was good, and like I ended up crying 999 00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,200 Speaker 6: in the monologue. And I remember I left the agent 1000 00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:19,040 Speaker 6: interview and I was like, I can't believe I just 1001 00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:21,000 Speaker 6: killed that so hard, you know, like and he goes, 1002 00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:23,600 Speaker 6: he was like that was amazing. Call me at three 1003 00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:25,560 Speaker 6: o'clock and I'll let you know if we're going to 1004 00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:27,520 Speaker 6: represent you. And it's really hard to get an agent 1005 00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:30,160 Speaker 6: in New York. It's just like especially for me when 1006 00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,040 Speaker 6: I was starting out. So anyway, I call him at 1007 00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,920 Speaker 6: three o'clock. I'm going to Hunter College. I'm in the payphones. 1008 00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:36,399 Speaker 6: You know, this is a long time ago. I put 1009 00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:37,200 Speaker 6: my quarter in. 1010 00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:39,320 Speaker 5: And he's like, hey, Natasha. 1011 00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,040 Speaker 6: You know, I was like waiting for the clock to 1012 00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:44,319 Speaker 6: dig in like a phone bank, and he's like. 1013 00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:47,120 Speaker 8: Hey Natasha. So I talked about it with all the agents, 1014 00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,560 Speaker 8: and we've come to the conclusion that you're too short 1015 00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:54,320 Speaker 8: to be an actress. He goes, you know, Holly Hunter 1016 00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:56,120 Speaker 8: did it, but she's the only one we can even 1017 00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,480 Speaker 8: think of, so I'm sorry. We just don't think you'll 1018 00:45:58,520 --> 00:45:59,200 Speaker 8: ever become an. 1019 00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:01,319 Speaker 6: Actress, so it's preposterous. 1020 00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:05,279 Speaker 5: I broke down physically. I got on my knees. I 1021 00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:07,160 Speaker 5: was like heaving because this was. 1022 00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:10,479 Speaker 2: Like my entire you thought that was your big break life. 1023 00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:13,160 Speaker 2: I mean, it's over. It was over, I know. 1024 00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:15,520 Speaker 5: I mean I was probably twenty, but like I had 1025 00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:16,560 Speaker 5: had so many. 1026 00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:17,600 Speaker 2: It feels more. 1027 00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:20,480 Speaker 1: It feels worse then because you're too naive. Just realized, 1028 00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:21,439 Speaker 1: like who the fuck are. 1029 00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:24,279 Speaker 5: These people say it like that? And like I tell me, 1030 00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:26,520 Speaker 5: it's impossible, and like. 1031 00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,440 Speaker 4: Like kind of cruel to the kind of casual cruel 1032 00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:33,000 Speaker 4: to somebody that's that's ruling over a tiny kingdom, you know. 1033 00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:36,359 Speaker 1: If that he's just a fucking Wackaoho Jones, like all 1034 00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:40,120 Speaker 1: these wacked who's In the beginning, you think like the power, 1035 00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:43,000 Speaker 1: these calm and these open my comics. I thought like, 1036 00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:44,879 Speaker 1: oh god, this guy just yelled at me because he's 1037 00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,839 Speaker 1: a lunatic. Oh fuck, maybe I fucked up. And then 1038 00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:50,040 Speaker 1: you're like, who the fuck were those people? They were 1039 00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:51,399 Speaker 1: a bunch of maniacs, it was like. 1040 00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:53,719 Speaker 6: And they're just feeding off of like trying to whip 1041 00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,879 Speaker 6: their you know, be superior over all. 1042 00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:57,480 Speaker 2: Oh. 1043 00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:59,560 Speaker 4: But then you like, she's on her knees crying in 1044 00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:01,560 Speaker 4: a pay phone in New York thinking it's over, and 1045 00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,200 Speaker 4: what like five years later you found stand up and like. 1046 00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:07,240 Speaker 5: And then twenty years later, I'm still really trying. 1047 00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:10,200 Speaker 2: Are you kidding? 1048 00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:12,960 Speaker 5: No, I'm just saying it never really even the roast. 1049 00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:15,279 Speaker 6: Like after I did the roast of Justin Bieber, I 1050 00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:17,680 Speaker 6: was like, this is it? 1051 00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:19,719 Speaker 5: Yeah, And then like I remember the next. 1052 00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:22,640 Speaker 6: Day there was this whole like thing where like all 1053 00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,880 Speaker 6: my agents left CIA and went to Uta. There was 1054 00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,480 Speaker 6: like this whole thing that happened, and nothing really happened 1055 00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:30,240 Speaker 6: from the roast, and I was like I was thinking, 1056 00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:32,800 Speaker 6: like I'm gonna be in movies like Amy Schumer and 1057 00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:35,280 Speaker 6: nothing really happened. But then it's like ten years later, 1058 00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:38,439 Speaker 6: the roasts are viral on TikTok and I sell out 1059 00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:41,960 Speaker 6: and it's like you just don't know how there was like. 1060 00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,560 Speaker 5: A re yeah, and you know you can't. 1061 00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:47,680 Speaker 1: The Deftones sold out the Key of Forum and the 1062 00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,520 Speaker 1: Death Tones I grew up listening to, but like they're cool, 1063 00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,279 Speaker 1: like like teenagers listened to that. They had some like 1064 00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:55,239 Speaker 1: they had like a reth they had like a re 1065 00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:59,080 Speaker 1: they like work on TikTok for like the new Emo Waves. 1066 00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,560 Speaker 5: Well, my point is you can't. You can never. You 1067 00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:04,840 Speaker 5: can never like control how something's going to. 1068 00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:05,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1069 00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:09,000 Speaker 1: Also culture, you never know, like the thing that you 1070 00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:11,240 Speaker 1: think is some throwaway thing. It's like that with jokes, 1071 00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:13,279 Speaker 1: Like you think the throwaway joke is like whatever, and 1072 00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,040 Speaker 1: then it gets a big laugh and then like the 1073 00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,040 Speaker 1: thing you're like, dude, I'm the next Richard Prior, and 1074 00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:18,440 Speaker 1: then you fall flat on your face. 1075 00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:21,279 Speaker 2: It feels just like, well, there's no, there's no, there's 1076 00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,239 Speaker 2: no it's unpredictable, there's no there. 1077 00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:25,560 Speaker 4: I always think of it like the whole, this whole thing, 1078 00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:28,440 Speaker 4: and life is like this in general, but Hollywood certainly 1079 00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:32,040 Speaker 4: is like this ladder and the problem is you're always 1080 00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:34,640 Speaker 4: looking at the wrong above you going oh, if that's 1081 00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:36,960 Speaker 4: the wrong, that will make me whole. And then you 1082 00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:38,560 Speaker 4: work and you work and you work and you work, 1083 00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:40,319 Speaker 4: and finally you know you grab the wrung and you 1084 00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:42,360 Speaker 4: pull yourself up to that wrong And the moment you 1085 00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:44,359 Speaker 4: get up to the wrong, you look up and you're like, oh, ship, 1086 00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,719 Speaker 4: there's another one right there, and that becomes a thing 1087 00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:50,080 Speaker 4: and like Brad Brad Pitts somewhere up the ladder. Yeah, 1088 00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:52,920 Speaker 4: you know, looking at Timothy shallow my shoes, going like 1089 00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:53,759 Speaker 4: how did I get last? 1090 00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:58,200 Speaker 2: You know, and that's like, yeah, that's just life. You 1091 00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:03,600 Speaker 2: never get there the ladder. Yeah, like fashionable, Like those 1092 00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:04,080 Speaker 2: shoes are cool. 1093 00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:06,600 Speaker 5: They're like a cool swing like small shoes too. 1094 00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:11,440 Speaker 2: I was a real man Chinese. It says like there 1095 00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:12,160 Speaker 2: isn't bad. 1096 00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:15,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's why you should have a children, because I 1097 00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:17,560 Speaker 6: have children, Because once you have a child, you don't 1098 00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:19,240 Speaker 6: care about the ladder anymore. 1099 00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:21,880 Speaker 4: It is true, No, I mean that's saying that is true. 1100 00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,040 Speaker 4: But there's also a caveat to that too. You have 1101 00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:26,040 Speaker 4: a child, you're on that ladder, you go, you go, 1102 00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:27,400 Speaker 4: what's my purpose? What's my purpose? 1103 00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:29,439 Speaker 2: Life? Ladder? Then you have a kid, you go, Okay, yeah, 1104 00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:29,719 Speaker 2: I know. 1105 00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:31,520 Speaker 4: My purpose is it's to care for this thing and 1106 00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:33,640 Speaker 4: teach it to have a good life, and teach it 1107 00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:36,120 Speaker 4: ethics and values and feed it and protect it, and 1108 00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:37,799 Speaker 4: you're like, this is the point of my life. But 1109 00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:39,400 Speaker 4: I think about that. I'm not there yet. I think 1110 00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:42,160 Speaker 4: about all the time that that. Then they turn eighteen 1111 00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:45,480 Speaker 4: and you're like, okay, bye, and they do drugs. 1112 00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:48,719 Speaker 2: Then you die. You do drugs and die. That's good 1113 00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:50,920 Speaker 2: that it's not too bad. I think of it. It's 1114 00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,239 Speaker 2: not too bad. Yeah, I'm with you on that. And 1115 00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:55,239 Speaker 2: then I got a dog, you got a cat. That's enough. 1116 00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:55,719 Speaker 2: It's enough. 1117 00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:59,360 Speaker 5: Has always like, stop talking people into having children. 1118 00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,279 Speaker 4: It's never were successfully, it's never worked. I mean, people 1119 00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:04,800 Speaker 4: shouldn't have kids that don't want kids because it's they shouldn't. 1120 00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:05,600 Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's not. 1121 00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:07,319 Speaker 5: And you might not get a perfect one like I got. 1122 00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:08,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we got it pretty go. 1123 00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,440 Speaker 1: I know some I have friends with some dud kids. 1124 00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:12,840 Speaker 2: Well yeah, we actually do. 1125 00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:14,279 Speaker 5: They think they're dud in their heart. 1126 00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:17,520 Speaker 2: I think, yes, really, dude, we are kid. 1127 00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:22,359 Speaker 1: We just like a guy who's oldest kid, I think 1128 00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:23,400 Speaker 1: broke him. 1129 00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:26,520 Speaker 2: I was a adult, but I was a dud. My 1130 00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:28,480 Speaker 2: mom he was smart. Yeah I was smart. 1131 00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:30,239 Speaker 4: I guess we just found out our kid just got 1132 00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:32,880 Speaker 4: diagnosed with something that's gifted. 1133 00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:33,600 Speaker 5: That's not true. 1134 00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:34,279 Speaker 2: We just found out. 1135 00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:35,120 Speaker 5: I have a friend. 1136 00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:37,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, we just found out. It was really rough because 1137 00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:39,239 Speaker 2: you had fucking the bowlers. 1138 00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:43,120 Speaker 6: No, my friend was like, our child's been diagnosed as gifted. 1139 00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:45,600 Speaker 6: This is a funny idea to say, diagnosed. 1140 00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:48,399 Speaker 2: Diagnosed, Come on the ship. Our kid's cool. 1141 00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:50,080 Speaker 4: I'm sure she wouldn't be cool to you, but but 1142 00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:52,200 Speaker 4: when they're your kid, you're like, oh, this one's awesome. 1143 00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:54,320 Speaker 4: She's awesome, and she's very aware of that too. 1144 00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:57,440 Speaker 2: And won and done. Oh yeah, she's fifty one fifty 1145 00:50:57,520 --> 00:50:59,160 Speaker 2: one one j Jackson. 1146 00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:03,320 Speaker 6: Those are false hopes. That's not real, Like it's real much. 1147 00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:07,120 Speaker 5: I would if someone I wouldn't try to adopt. 1148 00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:09,520 Speaker 6: But if someone was like, oh, if someone, can you 1149 00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:11,280 Speaker 6: watch this kid for us forever? 1150 00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:14,480 Speaker 2: Could you watch this kid for us? You would just get. 1151 00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:17,120 Speaker 5: We were trying to get pregnant. 1152 00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:19,600 Speaker 6: I wanted so badly for someone to just give me 1153 00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:21,360 Speaker 6: a kid at the grocery store, Like I just was like, 1154 00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:23,200 Speaker 6: any kid, like I can kidd'll do. 1155 00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:25,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, I don't want a kid that broke your 1156 00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:28,640 Speaker 2: friend and we turn it around. Yeah, oh no, that 1157 00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:29,360 Speaker 2: would be brutal. 1158 00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:32,880 Speaker 6: And our daughter's only seven, honey, and you have a 1159 00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:34,120 Speaker 6: history of issues. 1160 00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:35,920 Speaker 2: So, oh, you mean she might get sucked up at 1161 00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:37,840 Speaker 2: some point maybe about. 1162 00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:40,959 Speaker 1: Our You just see when she turned twelve thirteen comes 1163 00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:41,400 Speaker 1: a little you. 1164 00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:44,839 Speaker 2: I think that kind of destiny fulfillment stuff. I don't 1165 00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:46,000 Speaker 2: buy it. I'm not into it. 1166 00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:51,160 Speaker 1: Well, you had a very specific, uh tornado of a childhood. 1167 00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:53,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's got my genetics, but she doesn't have my circumstances, 1168 00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,239 Speaker 2: and I think that that that that that makes a 1169 00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:57,720 Speaker 2: big difference. She's gonna be wild. 1170 00:51:57,719 --> 00:51:59,080 Speaker 4: I know she's gonna be wild, and I have to 1171 00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:01,680 Speaker 4: resist that temptation with her of when I see a 1172 00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:04,200 Speaker 4: little bit of like thing that was like me, of 1173 00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:07,719 Speaker 4: then superimposing my trauma onto her future. It's like she's 1174 00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:09,759 Speaker 4: her own person and she's got her own destiny and 1175 00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:12,680 Speaker 4: I'm not. I'm not setting her destiny. She's not on 1176 00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:13,160 Speaker 4: my road. 1177 00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:15,680 Speaker 6: I had Chelsea Handler's book laying out yesterday and it's 1178 00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:18,160 Speaker 6: like her in a ski outfit with a martini, and 1179 00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:22,000 Speaker 6: my daughter's like, why is she drinking in a ski outfit? 1180 00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:24,760 Speaker 5: And she was like really into this cover and then. 1181 00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:27,640 Speaker 6: Like then like an half hour later, she's like, I'm. 1182 00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:29,360 Speaker 5: Crazy, I drink alcohol. 1183 00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:33,799 Speaker 6: Like she was just like saw this image you know, yes, 1184 00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:35,799 Speaker 6: like well, because she was like that, and I didn't 1185 00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:38,120 Speaker 6: even think of I just looked at the thing, like, oh, 1186 00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:40,360 Speaker 6: there's Chelsea, but like I wasn't really thinking, like my 1187 00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:44,200 Speaker 6: daughter hadn't seen those images together, and she just thought 1188 00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:45,640 Speaker 6: it was something funny. 1189 00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:46,920 Speaker 2: Kids are funny. 1190 00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:49,440 Speaker 4: We had this friend over who's like a bit of 1191 00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:53,840 Speaker 4: a judgmental, like I do everything correct, mom, Like a 1192 00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:56,719 Speaker 4: lot of references to the level, the reading level, you know, 1193 00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:59,759 Speaker 4: like a lot and and just like a lot of 1194 00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:01,920 Speaker 4: there was a lot of perfect parenting going on. And 1195 00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:03,239 Speaker 4: the kid came in. 1196 00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:05,800 Speaker 2: She was outside and the kid came in, this little 1197 00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:08,120 Speaker 2: like perfect child, and he goes, looks at me, he goes. 1198 00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:18,520 Speaker 4: I'm a murderer, goes murder, murder, murder, like that murderer. 1199 00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:22,880 Speaker 4: I'm a soldier, not bang, bang, I'm a murderer. 1200 00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:27,320 Speaker 6: We showed our daughter last night. Mosha is like obsessed 1201 00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,520 Speaker 6: with the idea that like PG. Thirteen is fine for her. 1202 00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:32,480 Speaker 6: She's seven, and like he shows her, He's like, no, 1203 00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:33,200 Speaker 6: she loves it. 1204 00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:35,480 Speaker 5: She loves it. I'm like, okay, well she is having nightmares. 1205 00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:37,480 Speaker 5: So finally we show. 1206 00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:39,319 Speaker 1: Her she loves Jesus James. 1207 00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:41,799 Speaker 6: We show her Back to the Future last night, the 1208 00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:44,200 Speaker 6: first one and Pig it's PG. 1209 00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:45,560 Speaker 5: She's loving it. 1210 00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:47,640 Speaker 2: And then for Michael J. 1211 00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:49,960 Speaker 5: Fox, I didnk that part isn't even that. 1212 00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:51,520 Speaker 2: Directs the mechas cut. 1213 00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:53,960 Speaker 6: When the Libyans come, there's like Libyans. I don't know 1214 00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:54,680 Speaker 6: if you remember this, but. 1215 00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:56,480 Speaker 2: Like very racist. I haven't seen that. 1216 00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:00,359 Speaker 5: Come to machine gun. 1217 00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:04,120 Speaker 2: They're speaking like fake, like it's like fake. It's just like. 1218 00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:08,799 Speaker 5: She is so into this movie and then this part 1219 00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:10,600 Speaker 5: happens and she just starts balling. 1220 00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:11,440 Speaker 2: She started crying. 1221 00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:15,279 Speaker 5: She had never seen like he's dead, he's dead, but 1222 00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:16,279 Speaker 5: someone pulling. 1223 00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:18,400 Speaker 6: Out a machine gun in an empty parking lot and 1224 00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:19,520 Speaker 6: blowing someone up. 1225 00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:21,520 Speaker 5: And then I go, most you've got to see if 1226 00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:22,600 Speaker 5: this is this, there's no way this. 1227 00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:23,640 Speaker 2: She was mad at me. 1228 00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:25,759 Speaker 4: She was like, that was not a PG movie, and 1229 00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:28,719 Speaker 4: I looked it up. I knew it was PG. I 1230 00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:30,520 Speaker 4: looked it up. This is the fact that I found 1231 00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:33,400 Speaker 4: out when Back to the Future came out, PG thirteen 1232 00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:37,200 Speaker 4: as a rating was like six months old, so it. 1233 00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:37,759 Speaker 3: Should have been. 1234 00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:41,000 Speaker 2: They just invented PG thirty. 1235 00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:44,319 Speaker 6: Curists like, I mean, she was bawling and I'm just like, 1236 00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:45,840 Speaker 6: I've never seen her balld Or. 1237 00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:48,440 Speaker 2: She's funny though. She the other showed her Planet of 1238 00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:50,200 Speaker 2: the Ape. I don't care. I mean, what are you 1239 00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:50,560 Speaker 2: gonna do? 1240 00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:53,080 Speaker 6: I watched fund show her something that's gonna keep her 1241 00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:53,600 Speaker 6: up at night. 1242 00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:55,200 Speaker 5: Look, Eric can't even sleep at night. 1243 00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:57,239 Speaker 4: I watched R rated movies when I was a little kid, 1244 00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:59,440 Speaker 4: and I turned out, fine, you were crazy. 1245 00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:02,839 Speaker 2: That's right. I to rehabit twelve. Anyway, she's funny though. 1246 00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:04,279 Speaker 4: I watched Planet of the Apes with her the other 1247 00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:07,200 Speaker 4: day when Natasa's out of town, and the last line 1248 00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:10,000 Speaker 4: of Planet of the Apes spoiler alert is that he 1249 00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:11,760 Speaker 4: pulls James franco In and he's. 1250 00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:13,800 Speaker 2: Like, oh, new Planet of the Apes. New Planet of 1251 00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:15,359 Speaker 2: the Apes. He pulls James franco In and he's like, 1252 00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:17,320 Speaker 2: the monkey goes Caesar is home. 1253 00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:20,000 Speaker 4: That's the last line. She really loved that, and she 1254 00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:21,800 Speaker 4: pulled me in the other day. We're at a restaurant 1255 00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:23,759 Speaker 4: and we were eating Caesar salad and she grabbed my 1256 00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:25,520 Speaker 4: head and she pulled me and she goes, Caesar. 1257 00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:28,640 Speaker 2: Salad is home. That's funny. That's a good joke. That's 1258 00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:29,239 Speaker 2: a good joke. 1259 00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:30,239 Speaker 3: That's a good joke. 1260 00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:35,840 Speaker 1: There you go, and there's a thing with Jews and Italians. 1261 00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:39,760 Speaker 2: They merged along the way. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Caesar Caesar salad. 1262 00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:41,680 Speaker 2: Is that what made you do that? No? 1263 00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:47,600 Speaker 1: I just think Comedians, Jews, Italians, New York, Chicago, San Francisco. 1264 00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:50,799 Speaker 1: You're from like comedic town. She's got all that in her. Yeah, 1265 00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:53,360 Speaker 1: she likes we were got all that juice center. 1266 00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:55,279 Speaker 4: Oh, speaking of bombing, we you know, we raise our 1267 00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:58,160 Speaker 4: kid with a lot of sarcasm. Obviously, that's the way 1268 00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:01,240 Speaker 4: we communicate. We were at a friend's house, a soft 1269 00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:04,000 Speaker 4: hippie friend's house, and the that we ordered pizza for 1270 00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:06,560 Speaker 4: the family. And the pizza came and the little boys 1271 00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:09,560 Speaker 4: like pizza, and Natasha goes, actually it's all for us, 1272 00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:12,960 Speaker 4: and the kids starts fucking sobbing, and I'm like. 1273 00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:19,640 Speaker 6: Oh, I'm not as an actual adult getting your head 1274 00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:22,560 Speaker 6: blown off by a machine gun and a parking lot 1275 00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:23,680 Speaker 6: of like a nice mom. 1276 00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:26,359 Speaker 4: It was an example of a kid that wasn't being 1277 00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:29,279 Speaker 4: raised with sarcasm as the primary communicative form. Our kid 1278 00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:31,040 Speaker 4: was like, now shut up, mom, give me the pizza. 1279 00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:33,000 Speaker 4: And this little innocent child. 1280 00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:36,720 Speaker 1: He was like, yeah, any other bums. Your bomb story 1281 00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:38,759 Speaker 1: was like three seconds You're like, I. 1282 00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:41,000 Speaker 2: Want to do a show. This guy wrap it up. 1283 00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:44,680 Speaker 6: The agent told me, I got the agent no, and 1284 00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:47,720 Speaker 6: then they switched me with the opener that that's happened 1285 00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:48,200 Speaker 6: to me twice. 1286 00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:50,319 Speaker 5: That happened to me in Vegas too. And here's the thing. 1287 00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:52,799 Speaker 6: The guy who they switched me with in Vegas, he 1288 00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:54,920 Speaker 6: was literally doing Bill Hicks material. 1289 00:56:58,320 --> 00:56:59,120 Speaker 5: Do you see him do it? 1290 00:56:59,239 --> 00:56:59,359 Speaker 3: No? 1291 00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:01,560 Speaker 2: What do you mean? Wasn't there that works? 1292 00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:01,719 Speaker 3: Though? 1293 00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:05,400 Speaker 4: I heard about this Italian comedian who he was the 1294 00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:08,040 Speaker 4: biggest comedian in Italy every year he who put out 1295 00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:12,600 Speaker 4: this like searing, amazing hour of social commentary. And then 1296 00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:16,160 Speaker 4: the Internet hit and they started to see comedians on 1297 00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:17,880 Speaker 4: YouTube and all of a sudden they were like, wait, 1298 00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:22,360 Speaker 4: this dude just does George Carlin. And like before the Internet, 1299 00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:25,960 Speaker 4: it was like a perfect creep. Nobody would know, all right, yeah, 1300 00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:29,040 Speaker 4: we do gotta go. But okay, here's my other big bomb. 1301 00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:32,000 Speaker 4: This is really where my career changed. Was I was 1302 00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:35,080 Speaker 4: young in my career. I was about maybe five or 1303 00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:38,080 Speaker 4: six years in and I got into laugha Palooza, the 1304 00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:43,360 Speaker 4: Urban Jamie Fox's Urban Comedy Festival, and I was like, 1305 00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:46,280 Speaker 4: I still remember the phone call, Mosha cash Er, this 1306 00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:49,200 Speaker 4: is John Johnson from Laugh of Palooza. We'd like to 1307 00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:51,720 Speaker 4: welcome you to new Faces laugh of Palooza. And I 1308 00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:55,040 Speaker 4: was jumping up and down at my job. I was like, 1309 00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:55,600 Speaker 4: this is it. 1310 00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:57,160 Speaker 2: And I flew to. 1311 00:57:57,200 --> 00:58:01,320 Speaker 4: Atlanta on my own dime red flag and travel. No 1312 00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:04,160 Speaker 4: I meet all the other comedians. There's me and one 1313 00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:06,680 Speaker 4: other white comic everybody else. It doesn't even occur to me. 1314 00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:08,800 Speaker 4: They were not in the era where it's like inappropriate 1315 00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:10,000 Speaker 4: for a white comedian to try. 1316 00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:12,360 Speaker 2: To squeeze into a black comedy festival. It's just like, 1317 00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:13,280 Speaker 2: let me make it. 1318 00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:16,120 Speaker 4: There's one other comedian called weed Man, and he would 1319 00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:20,320 Speaker 4: put on the other white the diversity, the DEI, we 1320 00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:22,600 Speaker 4: were DEI, and he put he would put one hundred 1321 00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:23,960 Speaker 4: dollars bill on his head and he would do Ben 1322 00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:25,520 Speaker 4: Franklin's weed jokes. 1323 00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:28,360 Speaker 2: That's kind of cool. Well, I was like, weed Man's 1324 00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:31,200 Speaker 2: not a threat. That was my thought. I'm in You're like, 1325 00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:32,320 Speaker 2: I'm sorry. 1326 00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:35,400 Speaker 4: I go to the first show they did. They failed 1327 00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:38,480 Speaker 4: to promote. There was no one there. It was like 1328 00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:41,240 Speaker 4: they would like turn off the braves game and start 1329 00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:44,880 Speaker 4: the show. So nobody there. But there were executives from 1330 00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:47,960 Speaker 4: Comedy Central and just for laughs there to watch us 1331 00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:52,160 Speaker 4: just eat fucking garbage for show after show after show, 1332 00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:54,040 Speaker 4: and then they would let us go to the like 1333 00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:57,640 Speaker 4: main tapings, which were hilarious. The main tapings were they 1334 00:58:57,680 --> 00:58:59,560 Speaker 4: build it as a Cedric the Entertainer Show, but it 1335 00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:02,040 Speaker 4: was actually Edric doing five minutes, and then they would 1336 00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:04,000 Speaker 4: start a TV taping with a bunch of comics hadn't 1337 00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:06,520 Speaker 4: heard of, right, and so that the crowds. The crowds 1338 00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:09,720 Speaker 4: had paid forty dollars Cedric, but they were getting people. 1339 00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:10,560 Speaker 2: They never gone. 1340 00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:14,880 Speaker 4: They were mutinous. Bill Burr was on one of those tapings. 1341 00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:17,880 Speaker 4: Ali Wong was on one of those tapings, and so 1342 00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:19,840 Speaker 4: we would get to go see what comedy in front 1343 00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:22,960 Speaker 4: of a crowd would look like, and and it was. 1344 00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:25,440 Speaker 4: It was so funny. There was a lot, a lot 1345 00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:28,680 Speaker 4: of funny things happened. But I heard that there was 1346 00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:32,240 Speaker 4: a Best of the New Faces show happening at the punchline, 1347 00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:36,120 Speaker 4: and I walked up to John Johnson and I just 1348 00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:37,840 Speaker 4: I don't know what got into me because I wasn't 1349 00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:39,920 Speaker 4: like this, but I go, I'm getting on that fucking show. 1350 00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:43,920 Speaker 4: I go, John, I'm getting on the Best of the 1351 00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:46,560 Speaker 4: New Faces show, And he's like, he looks at me, 1352 00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:48,920 Speaker 4: smiles and goes, all right, you're on. 1353 00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:51,680 Speaker 2: So I show up. The show's at midnight. It's after 1354 00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:52,080 Speaker 2: the taping. 1355 00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:54,000 Speaker 4: It starts at midnight, and I walk up to the 1356 00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:57,280 Speaker 4: booker at the Punchline and I go, I'm on the 1357 00:59:57,320 --> 00:59:59,320 Speaker 4: New Faces show and she goes, I don't have you down, 1358 00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:01,520 Speaker 4: and I I looked at her again, and I remember 1359 01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:04,400 Speaker 4: I had a VHS tape in my back pocket, and 1360 01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:06,160 Speaker 4: I go, if nothing else, I'm gonna get a booking 1361 01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:09,320 Speaker 4: at the Punchline Atlanta out of this. And I said, 1362 01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:12,760 Speaker 4: ma'am they John Johnson said I was on this show. 1363 01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:14,600 Speaker 4: I'm on this show. And she's like, I'll put you 1364 01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:17,320 Speaker 4: on last, and I go all right. So the show 1365 01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:19,760 Speaker 4: starts at midnight. There's a real crowd there. People are 1366 01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:23,040 Speaker 4: doing well. People go it's getting later. It's one, it's 1367 01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:26,720 Speaker 4: two in the morning. Weed Man goes on, he fucking 1368 01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:29,840 Speaker 4: the Annihilates dude, and I'm like, I'm in the wings. 1369 01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:32,040 Speaker 4: I'm fucking you know, shadow boxing, and shit, I'm like, 1370 01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:32,600 Speaker 4: I'm doing it. 1371 01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:35,040 Speaker 2: I'm doing it. And then I get on we needed 1372 01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:35,520 Speaker 2: to have kids. 1373 01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:35,880 Speaker 1: We were. 1374 01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:39,360 Speaker 4: Two point fifteen in the morning. I get on and 1375 01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:44,120 Speaker 4: I go, you guys tired as one? The crowd like, yes, yes, 1376 01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:49,880 Speaker 4: I bombed so hard I could. It was like visceral, 1377 01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:53,280 Speaker 4: like in my body I did. I walked off stage. 1378 01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:55,400 Speaker 4: I looked at the booker, I go, not worth the 1379 01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:58,120 Speaker 4: cost of a VHS tape to give her, and I 1380 01:00:58,200 --> 01:00:59,320 Speaker 4: get on the plane. 1381 01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:00,000 Speaker 2: I fly home. 1382 01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:03,720 Speaker 4: My body's like I'm coursing with like I thought this 1383 01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:06,360 Speaker 4: was it, and it was. It was not just not it, 1384 01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:09,040 Speaker 4: it was the opposite of it. People formed lasting impressions 1385 01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:11,360 Speaker 4: of me that would that would follow me into my career. 1386 01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:11,960 Speaker 3: True. 1387 01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:15,640 Speaker 4: I asked her years later, Joanne from Comedy Central now Netflix. 1388 01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:17,040 Speaker 4: I was like, did you see me? She's like, yeah, 1389 01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:20,920 Speaker 4: I thought you sucked. So I get to my club, 1390 01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:24,640 Speaker 4: my home club that night. It's the Sunday after the 1391 01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:28,000 Speaker 4: Sunday before Halloween, and in my apartment, all I want 1392 01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:30,120 Speaker 4: to do is like hide under the covers. And at 1393 01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:33,080 Speaker 4: the punchline San Francisco, the Little Confusing, they're both named 1394 01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:35,040 Speaker 4: the same thing. Also, the booker was named Molly. In 1395 01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:37,840 Speaker 4: the punchline. In the Atlanta you had to wear a 1396 01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:40,520 Speaker 4: costume in order to perform, and I'm like, all I 1397 01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:42,959 Speaker 4: want to do is stay home, quit comedy. I want out. 1398 01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:47,520 Speaker 4: And I'm staring at this like incandescent lycra astronaut suit 1399 01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:48,120 Speaker 4: that I have. 1400 01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:50,120 Speaker 2: Going going is am I going to do it? Am 1401 01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:50,479 Speaker 2: I gonna? 1402 01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:50,720 Speaker 3: Am? 1403 01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:52,640 Speaker 4: I gonna put that fucking thing on? And the ask 1404 01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:55,400 Speaker 4: the plush astronaut helmet I have and drive to the 1405 01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:58,480 Speaker 4: punchline and I'm like, fuck it, like with great dignity, 1406 01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:00,960 Speaker 4: I pulled the span next suit on. I get in 1407 01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:04,440 Speaker 4: my car, I drive across the bridge. You had to 1408 01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:07,320 Speaker 4: wear a costume because it was on the Sunday before 1409 01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:09,960 Speaker 4: Halloween in order to perform, and so I put this 1410 01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:13,160 Speaker 4: fucking ridiculous costume on. I drive to the punchline. I 1411 01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:16,880 Speaker 4: got up and I swear to god, I unlocked something 1412 01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:19,760 Speaker 4: in my performative style that night where I just like 1413 01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:23,000 Speaker 4: gave up, like I was like yeah, and I shifted 1414 01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:26,960 Speaker 4: in this profound way. I killed at the punchline in 1415 01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:30,000 Speaker 4: San Francisco, and I was at that point the comedian 1416 01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:31,000 Speaker 4: that I am now, not. 1417 01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:32,920 Speaker 2: The comedian that was like trying to figure out what 1418 01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:33,840 Speaker 2: who I was. 1419 01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:36,880 Speaker 4: That night that bomb, all those bombs put together like 1420 01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:39,640 Speaker 4: created who I am. Yeah, And so that's why, like 1421 01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:42,280 Speaker 4: my biggest flow, and then my career happened after that. 1422 01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:46,040 Speaker 4: Our bombs creat us comedy is not about my biggest 1423 01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:48,840 Speaker 4: philosophy in comedy is and all and life is. It's 1424 01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:50,960 Speaker 4: not about whether you can succeed. It's about whether you 1425 01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:53,520 Speaker 4: can fail and keep going. And that's what I did. 1426 01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:54,560 Speaker 5: What do you do with them? 1427 01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:56,920 Speaker 2: What do you do with failure? Is the greatest teacher. 1428 01:02:57,720 --> 01:03:01,880 Speaker 2: Failure and success are the same thing. Yeah, yeah, two 1429 01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:07,120 Speaker 2: sides of the same coin. That's been our show. Thank 1430 01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:10,600 Speaker 2: you with your name again. 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