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Speaker 1: San Antonio District judge resigns after a federal corruption probe.

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Speaker 2: A former San Antonio, Texas judge goes to federal prison

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Speaker 2: after pleading guilty to accepting bribes in exchange for rigging

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Speaker 2: cases in his court. Angus McGuinty committed the ultimate judicial sin.

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Speaker 2: Why did you do it?

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Speaker 3: I did it because I was foolish.

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Speaker 4: The John Ennick and Kenny Florian podcasts Gary Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, you want a podcast. Great, so you

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Speaker 4: You're your hosts, John Nick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 5: You know, over like two hundred and forty episodes into

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Speaker 5: this thing. Ten minutes ago, my wife says to me, Hey,

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Speaker 5: do you mind if I just, you know, sit in

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Speaker 5: the bedroom on headphones folding laundry while you hear your podcast.

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Speaker 6: It's like, get the fuck out. It had full laundry

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Speaker 6: in the bedroom, you know, I mean, this is our thing,

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Speaker 6: this is our thing. Don't be nervous, honey.

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Speaker 5: It's episode two forty of the Anticanploring Podcast, Monday March nine,

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Speaker 5: twenty twenty. Happy Birthday, Dominic Cruz. I guess Corey Sanhagen

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Speaker 5: Ken Flow must not know that it's Domina Cruz's birthday

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Speaker 5: because he chose today or maybe it was last night

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Speaker 5: to shout out to the Instagram masses that he has

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Speaker 5: been offered a comin event against Domina Cruz, who has

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Speaker 5: not created since twenty sixteen. Of course, in San Diego

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Speaker 5: in mid May, so in Cruse's backyard. So a lot

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Speaker 5: of that lines up real well for dom I mean, certainly,

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Speaker 5: Cory Sandagen is a guy who at times has emulated

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Speaker 5: Dominic's style, and certainly dom has been an MMA hero

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Speaker 5: of sorts for him.

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Speaker 6: I think he was until the first fighter.

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Speaker 5: Meeting he had with Donald and then maybe you know,

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Speaker 5: that's when he started to think maybe this fight could

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Speaker 5: actually happen.

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Speaker 6: But no, Corey wants this fight.

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Speaker 5: Obviously a very difficult challenge for dom if he returns

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Speaker 5: to that fight after you know, three years on.

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Speaker 6: The dude, that's a fight.

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Speaker 7: And again, you know, I know that Sanagan has definitely

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Speaker 7: taking taken elements and emulated elements of Domina Cruz's game

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Speaker 7: as he should Dominic Cruz, one of the best footwork

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Speaker 7: guys ever to compete inside the octagon, does a lot

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Speaker 7: of things differently and intelligently, and to see that fight

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Speaker 7: go down, man, that would be tremendous.

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Speaker 6: Sanhagen is a guy that's very tall for the division.

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Speaker 7: He's he's a big thirty five, and he's got a

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Speaker 7: lot of different weapons and tools that I really think

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Speaker 7: would bring out the best in Domina Cruz.

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Speaker 6: That's an awesome fight. Sion Fight's awesome right now.

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Speaker 5: You know, we were talking a lot about bantamwaight because

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Speaker 5: of Sean O'Malley this weekend, and he certainly looks like

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Speaker 5: a future top five or if not champion. To me,

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Speaker 5: he's twenty five years old and we didn't even get

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Speaker 5: to see a touch of what he has developed over

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Speaker 5: the last two years. But yeah, it's interesting right now.

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Speaker 5: I ran into Aljamain Sterling, and I didn't intend to

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Speaker 5: lead the show this way, but Al Jamaine Sterling I

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Speaker 5: ran into in Las Vegas. He's still idling a little

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Speaker 5: bit with that risk. You know, it's a critical couple

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Speaker 5: weeks for him. He's gonna try and stay in Vegas

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Speaker 5: for another week of rehabilitation to really try to get

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Speaker 5: that thing. Well, but you got Sahudo taken on Jose

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Speaker 5: Aldo of course, Marlin, but iisen pieoldr Jan I think

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Speaker 5: are going to collide in the main event, maybe Sandhagen

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Speaker 6: So starting to move along.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the division is great, but happy birthday to the

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Speaker 5: bantam weight goat Domina Cruz. All right, So UFC two

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Speaker 5: forty eight kind of had it all, but in the

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Speaker 5: nature of time, we have got to lead with the

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Speaker 5: fight of the year. You know, when people ask me, Kenny,

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Speaker 5: what's the best fight I've ever called? I think always

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Speaker 5: the first thing that I think of as you and

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Speaker 5: me in Brisbane, Connecticut, twenty thirteen, the heavyweight headliner between

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Speaker 5: Bigfoot Silva and Mark Khan. But since obviously there have

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Speaker 5: been incredible fights. Right now, if you're asking me that question,

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Speaker 5: I do believe men or women, the best fight that

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Speaker 5: I think I've been Octagon's side to call is Jongwa

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Speaker 7: Just witnessing how much volume those women through and how

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Speaker 7: much they had to take throughout that fight, the momentum

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Speaker 7: shift throughout. Both these ladies are champions in my book,

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Speaker 7: showed a resiliency and an offensive arsenal that I thought

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Speaker 6: She absolutely delivered that.

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Speaker 7: Both of these women, the way that they matched up,

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Speaker 7: it definitely had the makings of a war.

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Speaker 6: It was just that and more.

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Speaker 7: I was blown away by their performance and just their

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Speaker 6: What a fight.

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Speaker 7: And again, you know, as far as deciding who won

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Speaker 7: difficult thing. I thought the fifth round was probably Joangwae

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Speaker 7: Lee's round for sure, but the other rounds were really

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Speaker 7: hard to call. It could have been tied up heading

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Speaker 7: into that fifth round. I don't know. But both those

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Speaker 7: person in particular who came at me saying, what are

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Speaker 7: you talking about? What are you gonna give every title

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Speaker 7: shot to Yuanna? I mean, I mean, does she not

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Speaker 7: deserve it based on what she's done and how close

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Speaker 7: that fight was? And I don't think any fans would

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Speaker 7: be against that really seeing a rematch. Those guys are

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Speaker 7: just kind of some fighters are just made to fight

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Speaker 6: I think those two are certainly that. Yeah, they're destined

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Speaker 6: to fight again.

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Speaker 5: And how prophetic to your point was Yoanna im J

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Speaker 5: Check saying it was gonna be the greatest fight in

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Speaker 5: straweight history. It's one of the best fights. It's the

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Speaker 5: Hall of Fame fight, but one of the best fights

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Speaker 5: in UFC history. And Ray Longo was texting me during it,

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Speaker 5: so let's bring him on in. Let's get to the

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Speaker 5: Ray Longo minute.

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Speaker 4: It's now time for the Ray Longo minutes, and I'm going.

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Speaker 3: To punch a hole in this fucking chucks, That's what

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Speaker 3: I want.

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Speaker 4: The Ray Longo minute during Ray Longo the John Nick

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Speaker 4: and Kenny Florian podcast.

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Speaker 5: So god damn much to unpack on this co main event.

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Speaker 5: Raymond Peter Longo now joins us live.

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Speaker 6: Ray. It's always good to have you, my man.

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Speaker 5: I mean, one angle of this is the price you

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Speaker 5: pay in terms of your longevity for a fight like that.

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Speaker 5: I mean, how about the forehead on Yohanna im J

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Speaker 6: Are you fucking kidding me?

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Speaker 8: Yeah? No, I've never ever seen anything like that. I

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Speaker 8: remember back in the day a boxer named I think

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Speaker 8: has Seem Rockman had a total but not over the

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Speaker 8: whole head. This looked like it was four hours in

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Speaker 8: special effects on a movie set. This was crazy.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, hassim Rockman is That's the best example by far.

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Speaker 5: Next time, text me, next time, Ray make me look

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Speaker 5: like a genius on paper, Just text me.

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Speaker 8: Let me tell you first, so you you are a

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Speaker 8: genius in that booth. Let me you are a genius.

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Speaker 8: So you've saved that booth with all your insight and

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Speaker 8: all your notes and stuff? Are you? You know somebody

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Speaker 8: sent it to me you. I think Bloody Elbow does

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Speaker 8: a winners and losers. You were in the winners, I mean.

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Speaker 6: Killed the time. Ken flows text a professional.

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Speaker 8: But yeah, I will do that next time. I'm sorry

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Speaker 5: So Kenny before I get raised, thoughts on the fight

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Speaker 5: and Joan way Lee from a technical standpoint, because I

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Speaker 5: think she answered a lot of questions. There's got to

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Speaker 5: be a price to pay in terms of the longevity, right,

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Speaker 5: I mean for Yoanna, you and Jchek fourteenth UFC fight.

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Speaker 5: Ten of them have been title fights, twenty five minutes

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Speaker 5: against Valentina Shipchenko. Most of her title fights have gone

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Speaker 5: the distance. Clearly the head was bothering her. You know,

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Speaker 5: I'm not trying to be a downer, but there's got

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Speaker 5: to be a price to pay for Zongwei Lee when

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Speaker 5: you absorb a fight like this just as your championship

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Speaker 7: No doubt about it, especially considering the fact that Yoanna

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Speaker 7: she's had a lot more twenty five minute battles than

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Speaker 7: Jongwai Lee has. But talk about you know, welcoming welcoming

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Speaker 7: Yoanna was kind of she'd land her combination and just

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Speaker 8: Man Like, Look, you could go a bunch of different ways,

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Speaker 8: he's a good actor. You know, but behind closed doors

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Speaker 8: he's hurting. Really now you're going to tell us how

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Speaker 8: But you know, you have three ozers in a row

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Speaker 8: you know what I mean. Wayley Jiang is a tough

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, Kencellor, I think a lot of the fan

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Speaker 6: I agree with part of it.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, listen, I would say this is that you also

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Speaker 6: She made that.

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Speaker 7: She made that risk of moving forward and not being

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Speaker 7: Whether you know, she could have won that fight. It

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Speaker 6: Romero waited for him.

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Speaker 7: He was he was probing and prodding more than actually

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Speaker 7: And guess what, Romero kind of did the same thing too.

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Speaker 8: So my recommendation of Costa would be doing the same

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Speaker 6: This is the problem.

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Speaker 7: It's not this isn't a fight night somewhere in you know,

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Speaker 7: You know, this is a championship fight in Vegas. A

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Speaker 6: That equals millions.

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Speaker 6: So you know, it's it's tough.

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Speaker 7: There's a lot on the line, and when you get

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: Look. The other thing is, like, you know, like again

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Speaker 8: to finish the fight. He doesn't win all the time,

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Speaker 8: but you know what, it hasn't tarnished his his money account,

438
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Speaker 8: hasn't tarnished his bank account. These guys want that money,

439
00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:27,879
Speaker 8: but they don't want to take that risk, right And

440
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Speaker 8: I take my hats off to Condom McGregor for that.

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Speaker 6: I couldn't agree more. And I think that's a great example.

442
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Speaker 7: And I think if Adasania is looking at this fight,

443
00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:39,359
Speaker 7: he's saying, Okay, I am this counter striker, but now

444
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Speaker 7: if someone does play that, what do I do to

445
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Speaker 7: increase my arsenal of moves? And basically up my ability

446
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Speaker 7: to both keep the excitement level and be able to

447
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Speaker 7: go forward effectively without getting countered countered right, So he

448
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Speaker 7: doesn't have he doesn't have that, Kenny.

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Speaker 8: If he was so happy with his tactical performance, why

450
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Speaker 8: was he lashing out at everybody?

451
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Speaker 9: Just own it?

452
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Speaker 8: I mean the crowds, a bunch of buffoons. I got

453
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Speaker 8: a weird feeling from his speech after that. Man, it

454
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Speaker 8: was almost like a like a scorn love it. He

455
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Speaker 8: was in a it was a different spot, man, he

456
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Speaker 8: was he was playing does everybody own it? Hey? My right?

457
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Speaker 8: And I won a right? What are you criticizing the

458
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Speaker 8: fans for? And what I'm gonna entertain for a bunch

459
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Speaker 8: of buffoons drinking? And I thought I thought he went

460
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Speaker 8: off the rails a little bit with that. I thought

461
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Speaker 8: he just should have owned it. Listen, I had to

462
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Speaker 8: do what I had to do to win. I'm sorry

463
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Speaker 8: it wasn't entertaining, but this is the fight game. But

464
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Speaker 8: you had he he chose to really go after people.

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Speaker 5: You are right that he got defensive and it seemed

466
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Speaker 5: out of character. So I will certainly give you that.

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Speaker 5: I think there are so many masters in all of this. Right,

468
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Speaker 5: you have a promoter who has an agenda. You know,

469
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Speaker 5: you think Sean Shelby and Nick Maynard, the matchmakers are

470
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Speaker 5: super happy when this happens. Obviously not right Like obviously

471
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Speaker 5: for us as commentators is a little bit more challenging.

472
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Speaker 5: But I'm very conditioned to a snoozer here or there,

473
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Speaker 5: even at the highest level, so it didn't really phase

474
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Speaker 5: me all that much. Let me ask you this ray

475
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Speaker 5: in the nature of time, and I don't know how

476
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Speaker 5: much time you have, but I walked up to the ESPN.

477
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Speaker 5: All right, I walk up to the ESPN desk to

478
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Speaker 5: host the post show, and Ken Flow, I'm dying to

479
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Speaker 5: tell you this. And one of our producers, whom I

480
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Speaker 5: trust to a great extent, was like I had at

481
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Speaker 5: for to one Romero, and I practically I didn't know

482
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Speaker 5: what to say, right, But there are a lot of

483
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Speaker 5: people out there who thought you l Romero won this fight.

484
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Speaker 5: And I asked out a sign on the post show,

485
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Speaker 5: would there be more learning lessons here if you know

486
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Speaker 5: you didn't have a new ruby on your belt and you,

487
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Speaker 5: because he very conceivably ray in the in the eyes

488
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Speaker 5: of many people, could have lost this fight, and that

489
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Speaker 5: would have been the ultimate price.

490
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Speaker 6: To be.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, what was the last one of that?

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Speaker 5: John Well, I'm just curious how close you thought Romero

493
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Speaker 5: was to winning and maybe why your criticism sees seems

494
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Speaker 5: more reserved for the champion. Right, most people think this

495
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Speaker 5: was a very close fight.

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Speaker 8: Oh, it was one hundred percent close fight. I would honestly,

497
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Speaker 8: I could make a case for one to two and

498
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Speaker 8: five going to Romero. I don't know what the other

499
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Speaker 8: guy did besides the lake kick. I don't think he

500
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Speaker 8: hit them. Listen, at the end of the day, the

501
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Speaker 8: most damage was done by Romero. Do we agree with

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Speaker 8: that just with the few punches he went.

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Speaker 5: I don't because the legs. The leg was the biggest

504
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Speaker 5: factor for me.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, outa Signa didn't really have a scratch on him.

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Speaker 8: Oh man, I just remember so many fights where guys

507
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Speaker 8: got their lake killed and they lost the fight. I

508
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Speaker 8: don't know, but all right, let's how about this. Would

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Speaker 8: you agree like he said he was, he said he

510
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Speaker 8: was gonna read, he said he was going to retire Romero.

511
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Speaker 8: Would you at least agree he couldn't back up what

512
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Speaker 8: he said he was gonna do.

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Speaker 6: Yes, I agree with that.

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Speaker 5: I agree, and Ray I think it's it's a healthy conversation.

515
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Speaker 5: Before we let you go, I got to ask you

516
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Speaker 5: about Dan Murgliatta in this fight, right, because I like

517
00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,840
Speaker 5: all these referees. I share buses with them after the fights,

518
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,200
Speaker 5: which is not always ideal because I'm paid to talk

519
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Speaker 5: and oftentimes it's about the job that they do or

520
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Speaker 5: don't do. You know, I understand that a referee can

521
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Speaker 5: warn and penalized fighters for timidity, can flow. But when

522
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Speaker 5: you're getting in between fighters and saying you know, you're

523
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Speaker 5: being paid for a championship fight, to me, that crosses

524
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Speaker 5: the line of what you're being paid to do.

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Speaker 6: Flow. It's not under it. It's not his role. I

526
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Speaker 6: get it.

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Speaker 7: He's trying to get them to fight. And Dan's an

528
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Speaker 7: awesome guy and he's been around the sport for a

529
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Speaker 7: long time. But that's when you're kind of getting out

530
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Speaker 7: of your role a little bit. You know that that's

531
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Speaker 7: not that's not the job of referee. Uh to kind

532
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Speaker 7: of talk about those things.

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Speaker 8: I think we've been through this a million times. We're

534
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Speaker 8: gonna be through it another million. There's no accountability, nothing's

535
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Speaker 8: gonna happen. He's done it before, he had michael vinm Paige.

536
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Speaker 8: He cursed him out after that. This isn't the first time. Yeah,

537
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Speaker 8: but I'm gonna say, if you're an official or a judge,

538
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Speaker 8: do whatever the fuck you want to do, because nobody's

539
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Speaker 8: gonna do anything.

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Speaker 6: Just do whatever, do it wrong.

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Speaker 8: It's no accountability, I knowhing well zero.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, No, I think, and I think largely they're discouraged

543
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Speaker 5: talking and they don't see the upside in top talking

544
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Speaker 5: because it just potentially puts their job at risk. But

545
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Speaker 5: you know, they are independent contractors who technically could come

546
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Speaker 5: on this podcast and try to defend their decision, but

547
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Speaker 5: it just doesn't seem to them like there's much upside yet.

548
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Speaker 8: So listen, the more these guys talk, the more it

549
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Speaker 8: will become obvious why we're talking having this conversation right now.

550
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Speaker 8: They don't want that. Then they got a liability, and

551
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Speaker 8: it's a liability. Yeah, they got to deal with. They

552
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Speaker 8: just have to protect their risk. That's it, you know.

553
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Speaker 5: Hey, So the highlight of my trip was a couple

554
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Speaker 5: tequila and pineapple juices in after the show on Saturday night.

555
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Speaker 5: Who walks out of the restaurant, but maybe the best

556
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Speaker 5: band of weight in the world al Jamaine Sterling. He's

557
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Speaker 5: gonna guess try to spend spend another week in Vegas

558
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Speaker 5: working on that risk. But it was good to see

559
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Speaker 5: your guy there for ten minutes.

560
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Speaker 8: Al Joe is the best. He's the best guy. That's awesome, all.

561
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Speaker 5: Right, man, Well, great passionate stuff out of you. Always

562
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Speaker 5: what do you got cooking the rest of the day,

563
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 5: you're gonna sweat a little bit or what?

564
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Speaker 8: Uh I got the old American coming in. We got

565
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Speaker 8: a couple of workouts, so I got to go through

566
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Speaker 8: and uh sporing tonight. It's it's it's really getting busy

567
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Speaker 8: over you. We got a lot of fights coming up

568
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Speaker 8: in the next two weeks locally and then uh I

569
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Speaker 8: go from Mizuki to uh Ohio against t Sha Torres,

570
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Speaker 8: which is going to be a tough fight.

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Speaker 6: That's cool.

572
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Speaker 5: I'll see in Columbus, buddy. Tell the all American Brian Stample,

573
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Speaker 5: We say hi and we'll see you soon.

574
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Speaker 8: Okay, Yeah, I love it. John, You're getting there, buddy,

575
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Speaker 8: I love it.

576
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Speaker 7: Guys.

577
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Speaker 8: Listen, this was I was the Devil's I have to

578
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Speaker 8: get today. Trust me, I'm not that invested in what happened,

579
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Speaker 8: but I just making some observations just.

580
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Speaker 7: To be we want those opinions, dude, we want if

581
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Speaker 7: you're speaking people, so we appreciate it.

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Speaker 8: Awesome, guys, All right, listen man, take it easy.

583
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Speaker 6: Thanks Braddie, taking care of yourself. Yeah.

584
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Speaker 5: I could not believe how much out of Soignia criticism

585
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Speaker 5: I woke up to here on Monday after some of

586
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Speaker 5: the snippets from our.

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Speaker 6: Post fight show aired.

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Speaker 5: You know, I did ask him on the post show

589
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Speaker 5: Kenny to to Sony, do you consider yourself a counter striker?

590
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Speaker 5: Because he kept referring to Romero as a counter striker.

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Speaker 6: He didn't want to. He's like, I'm the last style

592
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Speaker 6: that day.

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Speaker 5: You know, you don't want but counter striker versus counter striker,

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Speaker 5: if you consider both of them to be most effective

595
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Speaker 5: and at their best when they are in a countering realm,

596
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Speaker 5: then sometimes this can happen, right.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely absolutely.

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Speaker 7: You see it in boxing from time to time and again.

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Speaker 7: You know, especially when you're talking about elite fighters who

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Speaker 7: are trying to use their brains. They're not going to

601
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Speaker 7: just rush in like that. That's just that's never been

602
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Speaker 7: their style, either of those guys. Really, you know, so

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Speaker 7: we knew it had this possibility of playing out this way,

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Speaker 7: and every once in a while you get that matchup

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Speaker 7: that doesn't gel you Wanna and Way Lee Jong and

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Speaker 7: Jean Jean Waylee Sorry matched up tremendously well.

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Speaker 6: Wasn't the case in the main event.

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Speaker 7: You look at those two fights back to back, right,

609
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,239
Speaker 7: and it looks that much worse. Right, So you know,

610
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 7: you can't complain all the time that Comaine was tremendous.

611
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Speaker 7: It's gonna go down as one of the best ever.

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Speaker 5: And yeah, and if you heard Odd Sharks Joe Osbourne

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Speaker 5: with us a week ago, he kind of expected Auto

614
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Speaker 5: Signia Romero could go down that way. Gave you plus

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Speaker 5: one seventy five for the fight to go the distance.

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Speaker 5: But it's interesting in terms of the outcome, Kenny, because

617
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Speaker 5: Dana was highly critical of Joel Romero, and I think

618
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Speaker 5: even for me on broadcast, you know it's going to

619
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Speaker 5: be forty three years.

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Speaker 6: Old next month. Outcome hangs in the balance.

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Speaker 5: Obviously, if we had open scoring, maybe that fifth round

622
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Speaker 5: would have taken on a different tune, although Romero certainly

623
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Speaker 5: had his moments in that fifth round.

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Speaker 6: But how close a fight did you think this was?

625
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Speaker 5: Because there was definitely a segment of the fan base

626
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Speaker 5: out there that believe Joel did enough to rest the

627
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Speaker 5: belt away.

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Speaker 7: It was close. It definitely was close. I thought it

629
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Speaker 7: was pretty clear for Autosignia myself at least three to two.

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Speaker 7: You know, again, when you're playing that counter strike style, well,

631
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Speaker 7: it's gonna be tough to kind of be adamant about

632
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Speaker 7: why you got a certain win when you're talking about

633
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Speaker 7: the difference between one or two strikes. I mean, Romero,

634
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 7: really what didn't do anything in the first round beside

635
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Speaker 7: that overhand left and then kind of did that for

636
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Speaker 7: the early part of the round, started moving forward a

637
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 7: little bit more later in the fight because he had

638
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Speaker 7: to kind of switch things up.

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Speaker 6: I don't know.

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Speaker 7: I listen, I thought at Asnia won pretty clearly, but

641
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Speaker 7: it was it was definitely close.

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Speaker 6: Joel Romero was not credited with a takedown.

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Speaker 5: I know a lot of people think he got Autosignia

644
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Speaker 5: down one time. He wasn't credited with that takedown, And

645
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Speaker 5: to me, you know, I think Ray was sort of

646
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 5: intimating that what are he going to decide a championship

647
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 5: fight on leg kicks? But you know, when you put

648
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 5: two dozen welts all up and around the thigh and

649
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 5: the knee of the other guy, and hey, it's isn't

650
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 5: the honest on the shoulder guy to get inside and

651
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 5: try to prevent that from happening if it becomes a

652
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Speaker 5: narrative and round definitely, and it.

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Speaker 6: Slowed him down.

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Speaker 7: You could clearly see that it was slowing Romero down.

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Speaker 7: Romero did was not moving the exact same way, and yeah,

656
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 7: that's the unfortunate part about it, man. And it was

657
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 7: interesting because you hear both those guys. They were both

658
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 7: complaining about the other guy. Why because they wanted the

659
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Speaker 7: other guy to come forward really badly. Both were hesitant

660
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Speaker 7: in playing that role. So again, hopefully we see in

661
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 7: both of these men, you know, them kind of bring

662
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Speaker 7: more of an offense or at least develop that in

663
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Speaker 7: their training so they can come forward without giving up

664
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Speaker 7: that big advantage.

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Speaker 5: I got to say for us in the broadcast booth,

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Speaker 5: after john Way, Lee and Yohanna, the fact that they

667
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 5: just stood there for five minutes in round one, I

668
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 5: was like, all right, thank you boys, you can fight now.

669
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Speaker 5: We appreciate that. We just just need to get a

670
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Speaker 5: reset for us a little bit. Good news is I

671
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 5: don't know if there's a betting line on this, but

672
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Speaker 5: I can guarantee you Paolo Costa is going to move

673
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 5: forward and will not ever in his entire career be

674
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Speaker 5: involved in a fight that is that unesthetically pleasing to

675
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Speaker 5: the audience. Right, this might be this is Gae chee

676
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Speaker 5: b right in terms of the most exciting fighters in

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Speaker 5: this or any division. For me, I mean, go to

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Speaker 5: UFC Fight Pass and look up Paolo Costa. So what's

679
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 5: your appetite for that middleweight fight? And how competitive do

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00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 5: you think Costa is against someone like Ata Sonia.

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Speaker 6: It's fired. That's the fight that should have been made. Right.

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00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 7: Obviously, Costa got injured, but there's no doubt in my

683
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Speaker 7: mind that this is a guy that does not care

684
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 7: if you're trying to take him down. He does not

685
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 7: care if you're kind, you're trying to counter strike him.

686
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 7: He's gonna get in your face and he's gonna try

687
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Speaker 7: to touch it repeatedly with his hands, his elbows, his knees,

688
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 7: and his feet. So that's the match you gotta make.

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Speaker 7: I do think it's not going to go the distance.

690
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 7: I would be very surprised if it does. One of

691
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 7: those guys are getting knocked out. There's no doubt about it.

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00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 7: Those guys are made to fight each other. Uh and

693
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Speaker 7: I can't wait to see it. Hopefully is Costa ready

694
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Speaker 7: to start training yet?

695
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 5: Well?

696
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Speaker 6: What's what's he? He will be ready to fight in

697
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 6: twelve weeks from right now? Oh wow? So okay, he

698
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 6: looked a little bigger than normal.

699
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Speaker 5: Oh no, oh yeah, I'm a little suggesting that when

700
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 5: he's done fighting, uh, and there'll be a lot of

701
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 5: muscle there, but he'll be like three fifty what he's

702
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 5: done for? He was big, big, diff so quickly on

703
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 5: the strawweight Championship. As we spin it forward, I want

704
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 5: to know what you learned about Jeongwei Lee, because certainly

705
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 5: YO want to Young jcheck wasn't the only one who

706
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 5: was questioning her technique, questioning her ability to survive in

707
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 5: championship rounds. I think she answered a ton of questions

708
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 5: in terms of heart and cardio and whether or not

709
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 5: she is a five round championship fighter. But Tatiana Suarez

710
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 5: certainly waits in the wings. There are stylistic matchups like

711
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 5: nama unis a rematch with Andrage that will absolutely go longer.

712
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 5: What questions were answered by jeongwe Lee? And how do

713
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 5: you handicap her moving forward? Here against Suarez and the rest.

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Speaker 7: Number One, she can uh withstand a tremendous amount of punishment,

715
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 7: she can deal with adversity, She can go twenty five

716
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 7: minutes against another skillful fighter. So as far as that

717
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 7: goes for everyone else in that division, I guarantee you

718
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 7: that she is going to get infinitely better after this fight.

719
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 7: The experience that you gain in twenty five minutes of

720
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 7: being in the octagon against an other elite fighter is huge.

721
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:13,479
Speaker 7: I'm talking about mentally, physically, technically, all the things that

722
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 7: she's gonna come away with because she is a true

723
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 7: martial artist. I think Wayley Jong is going to be

724
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 7: tremendous after this fight. She's only going to be that

725
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 7: much better now. She did take a lot of damage

726
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 7: in this fight as well, so I think she needs

727
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 7: to take her time really heel up, you know, don't

728
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 7: get right back into sparring.

729
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 6: Make sure she's taking care of her body. Number one.

730
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 7: But this is a fighter that is only going to

731
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 7: grow and get better from this. So that doesn't bode

732
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 7: well for other people in the division. But for Tachiano Suarez,

733
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 7: you know, she should be banging on that door right

734
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 7: now asking for this fight because She's a very different

735
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 7: fighter than anyone that really is in that division. For

736
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 7: the most part, she's the best wrestler in the division,

737
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 7: but the way that she matches up against the current champ,

738
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 7: I think she wants that fight.

739
00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 6: Well.

740
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 5: The division is so exciting and I think more than

741
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 5: any other division. When you look at the top five,

742
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 5: it's all former champions, right, So the top five fighters,

743
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 5: I think nina answer off is maybe six right now,

744
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 5: and of course bring her up so we can congratulate

745
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 5: her and Amanda Noon as they'll be having a baby

746
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 5: in September, So Nina is proud, but she has said

747
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 5: she's going to resume her career thereafter, so she will

748
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 5: factor back in this equation, I think, and she's gonna

749
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 5: be super motivated as a mother. But when you look

750
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 5: at it, it's Andras former champ, no'm a Unis former champion,

751
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 5: j Check former champ, and then Suarez the best wrestler

752
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 5: in the division, the best wrestler of the division's ever seen. Yes,

753
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 5: one hundred and fifteen pounds is in tremendous shape. So

754
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 5: we will have more on UFC two forty eight with

755
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 5: Ian Parker in a moment. But I want to bring

756
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 5: on TJ. DeSantis because it's time for the pronunciation of

757
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 5: the week. This man will make his seventeenth UFC appearance

758
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 5: this Saturday against Ken Flow's Peruvian brother Enrique Barzola. By

759
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 5: the way, the UFC bantamweight debut for Barzola. So moving

760
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 5: down to thirty five doesn't sound like a fun Thursday

761
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 5: night to me. TJ DeSantis three and two on the year,

762
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 5: my man of whom I speaking.

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00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 2: But you know, I thought that you guys hated me

764
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,239
Speaker 2: and then he finally give me a layup and I

765
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 2: know we're cool.

766
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 6: So uh, this man is named Hani Yaya. All right,

767
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 6: let's hear his file.

768
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:16,720
Speaker 5: Ronnie Yaha, Ronnie Yaha.

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Speaker 6: Bullshit.

770
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 7: He just he just decided to change his name all

771
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 7: of a sudden. Yeah, he's no longer Brazilian. How about Tea.

772
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 7: This is the only time I'll take TJ's back on this.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, Royce Gracie, Rezo Gracy exactly.

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00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 6: You don't get your change like is it now? John

775
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 6: anick Hey.

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Speaker 5: Generationally though, So I'll give you the point you're four

777
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 5: and two on the year, because I think most of

778
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 5: the fan base thinks it's honey yah yah.

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00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 6: This was a selfish play by me.

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Speaker 5: I just want everybody to know that there are a

781
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 5: lot of Brazilian fighters who want you to americanize their name.

782
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 5: So Ronnie wants to be Ronnie ya ya on broadcast,

783
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 5: and every single time that we call his fight, Kenny,

784
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 5: when you and I called u fights back in the day,

785
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 5: he was honey. He wants to be Ronnie, just like

786
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 5: Ronnie Marx wants to be Ronnie and not Honny marks right.

787
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,359
Speaker 5: So every time we call his fight, we hear from

788
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 5: people like DJ who tell us it's honey.

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00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 6: So I just want to play the file man. So

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Speaker 6: are you yawn aik? Is it ju What are we

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00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:22,280
Speaker 6: going with here? That's what it is, j o Ao.

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00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,760
Speaker 6: I want you to call me all right. I'll never forget.

793
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 5: When I first sent the audio down for my Juao

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Speaker 5: Zephyrino combo feature, they're like.

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Speaker 6: What did you say?

796
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 5: Said it just like he said it all right? Plenty

797
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 5: more to get to, of course. We got UFC Fight

798
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:44,240
Speaker 5: Night Lee versus Olivera coming up Saturday night on ESPN Plus.

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Speaker 6: We make some picks here in the Main Event Challenge.

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Speaker 4: How do you Everything, Boss Will to win the main

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Speaker 5: UFC two forty eight. Ken Flow takes the week five four.

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Speaker 5: changing your pick to dar use what a fight? I mean,

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Speaker 5: you feel like you're calling a close knockout and the

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Speaker 10: It was the first time in a long time I

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00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 10: got a text from Kenny so quick after that fight

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00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 10: was over.

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Speaker 3: I got was one of these I got. I got

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Speaker 3: the uh ye fuck you bro, you know, not.

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Speaker 6: Like yo, good job.

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Speaker 10: You hit that in the same parlay we talked about

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Speaker 10: for three days. It was, you know, I just knocked

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Speaker 10: you out.

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Speaker 3: And took the lead.

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Speaker 10: You didn't say anything to give part shape and this

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Speaker 10: that was it.

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Speaker 3: That was it.

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Speaker 5: So so you gave out a parlay on that anti

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Speaker 5: Florian pod live Instagram stream on Saturday, and uh, Chakadze

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Speaker 5: thought Jamal Emers won that fight.

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Speaker 6: Bail congratulations.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that that one.

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Speaker 10: And then Gerald hit, and then o'madson hit, Arra hit,

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Speaker 10: and then Cowboy hit and Sugar Showing O'Malley hit pretty

871
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,280
Speaker 10: much hit everything going into that main card.

872
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 3: It was. It was a big one. And I said

873
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 3: to Kenny. You know, I wasn't in love with it,

874
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 3: but the odds were there that if I hit it,

875
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:58,800
Speaker 3: I got to just chill for the main card.

876
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 10: Although I did have Jogwae Lee and Israel Asanya as

877
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 10: the last legs. Didn't even feel like hedging. Although Jangwai

878
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 10: Le that was close. That was a little scary as well.

879
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 5: So I don't know if you guys heard us talking

880
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 5: about Austin Hubbard who was beaten by Mark Omanson. But

881
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 5: Austin Hubbard had a win in September Kenny over Kyle

882
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 5: Preppolek in Vancouver. I believe it was he got compartment

883
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 5: syndrome after the fight and basically passed out in the elevator.

884
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 5: And I'd encourage any of our fans who don't have

885
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 5: a squeamish stomach to google Austin Hubbard leg and see

886
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 5: what this man dealt with the gray matter that was

887
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 5: his leg and he almost lost his leg. I think

888
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 5: it was like thirty eight Staples or whatever almost lost

889
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 5: the leg, and of course thereby his fighting career. So

890
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,319
Speaker 5: I was telling this story while he was walking out

891
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 5: while many of our listeners were in commercial break, and

892
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 5: then I showed Rogan the picture while we were in

893
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 5: commercial and Joe Joe said, and.

894
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 10: Dude, you almost man throw up on camera because the

895
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 10: minute you said that, Joe goos, why'd you show me

896
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 10: that Hubbard throws a fucking leg kick at Omadgin.

897
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 3: Now, like the timing that you guys had with that

898
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 3: was pretty spectacular.

899
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 6: Ken Flow Apartment syndrome.

900
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 5: Bro, I'm glad you're retired, dude.

901
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:13,720
Speaker 6: Wow.

902
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, So, Ian, I just want to very quickly get

903
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 5: your thoughts on Joangwai Lee and Johanna, You and j

904
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,360
Speaker 5: check and then time permitting, if you got thirty seconds

905
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 5: on Atosania Romero. But this feels like one of the

906
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 5: best fights that I've ever been able to witness. I'm

907
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 5: always thinking, as a former boxing guy in the back

908
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:33,360
Speaker 5: of my mind, God, this damage just ain't good for

909
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 5: career longevity. But they gave the fans an absolute treat,

910
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 5: and you got to think a decade down the line,

911
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 5: that's that fight's gonna be in the UFC Hall of Fame.

912
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 10: I mean, it's people keep saying it's the best fight

913
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 10: in women's m history. I think it's one of the

914
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 10: best fights in overall MMA history. You know, it gave

915
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 10: you everything you wanted for five rounds, the pace, the striking,

916
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:52,840
Speaker 10: just the strategy.

917
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 3: It was crazy. You know. It's sad that Yo Wanna

918
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 3: obviously came out looking the way she did.

919
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 10: I mean, I've never seen a forehead swell like that ever,

920
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,399
Speaker 10: you know, But props to bowl them.

921
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,760
Speaker 3: I hope they run it back. I think that rematches.

922
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 10: Very much deserve you. I mean it's just crazy. I mean, yes, well, Jemy,

923
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 10: your careers you always got to think about. But look

924
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 10: to her, maybe it was her last shot at the

925
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 10: title and she really gave it all. I mean, it

926
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:18,839
Speaker 10: could have went either way. But khudos to both women.

927
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:20,919
Speaker 10: That was unbelievable in every sense in the word.

928
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 5: You're going collared shirt today. You're not in the sweat

929
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 5: pants world with me today.

930
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 6: You got somewhere to be.

931
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 3: I had a meeting this morning, a couple of meetings

932
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 3: this morning.

933
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 10: I had to wear a polo. It's with sweatpants, but

934
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,280
Speaker 10: you know, at least I went polo up top. I'm kidding,

935
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 10: I'm wearing jeans.

936
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 3: Don't worry.

937
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, any of those Anakin Florian podcast sales meetings or.

938
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:41,839
Speaker 3: No, I haven't done enough in the last few weeks.

939
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 3: My bad. I'm sorry, no totals.

940
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 5: Well, you know that your your highest value to us

941
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 5: on this program is obviously your insight from a betting perspective.

942
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 5: So let's get to it and UH time permitting. On

943
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 5: the backside, will hit on Iziata Sonja main CARDI ESPN

944
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,320
Speaker 5: plus this weekend, folks in the light heavyweight division, Johnny

945
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 5: Walker blue minus one forty, Nikita Krulov is plus one twenty.

946
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 5: We'll see if if Johnny Walker can bounce back from

947
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 5: that Cory Anderson disaster. You know, he had won nine

948
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,720
Speaker 5: in a row going into that fight before those fateful

949
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 5: two minutes and seven seconds. Krillov on the other side,

950
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 5: lost to split to Glover to share his last time

951
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 5: out that was September. So Krillov one and two in

952
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 5: this second UFC stint Ian Parker, who do you have

953
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 5: in this main card fight at two oh five?

954
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 10: I like Johnny Walker here. I like him at these

955
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 10: odds almost. I think it was minus one forty right now.

956
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,799
Speaker 10: I think Krilov is definitely dangerous, but I just don't know.

957
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 10: He doesn't do well against pressure guys, you know, and

958
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 10: I think Walker different mindset, different gym where he's at

959
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 10: I think they're gonna reboot his IQ a little bit,

960
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,800
Speaker 10: and I think this is a good rebound fight for him.

961
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 10: Not knocking Krilov at all. And he's not a bad fighter,

962
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,439
Speaker 10: He's well rounded. I just don't think he's dynamic enough

963
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 10: to handle what Johnny Walker is gonna bring. I think

964
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:52,879
Speaker 10: I think Walker comes back and makes a statement here.

965
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 3: So I'm going Johnny Walker.

966
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 5: And I would think for Ken Flow, formerly trained by

967
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 5: the great Farasa Hobby, if Johnny Walker is gonna go

968
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 5: up to Montre, y'all, that's enough to get your pick today,

969
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 5: is it not.

970
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 6: I'm gonna go with Johnny Walker.

971
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:05,919
Speaker 7: But I tell you what, Kriloff is one of those

972
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 7: guys who could pull off up see no doubt about it.

973
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,799
Speaker 7: And I think that he's still dangerous. He's gonna be

974
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 7: right there. He's not gonna fold easy, that's for sure.

975
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 7: I do think Johnny Walker should get the win. I

976
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 7: like the fact that he's training with Farross. I think

977
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 7: he'll be more measured in how he uses his weapons

978
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 7: and how he moves forward offensively. I hope for the better,

979
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 7: and I hope he still retained some of that exciting,

980
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:32,800
Speaker 7: you know, aspects of his game. But I like Johnny

981
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:34,799
Speaker 7: Walker here, but not gonna be easy.

982
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 6: All right?

983
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 5: Next up lightweight guys. Not a featherweight fight here Hanato

984
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:41,320
Speaker 5: Moykano minus three twenty five versus Dommir Hadjovic who is

985
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:44,839
Speaker 5: plus two sixty five. So moy Kano was closing in

986
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:47,359
Speaker 5: on a featherweight title shot. He had wins over Calvin Cator,

987
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 5: finished Cup Swanson, But twenty nineteen, of course not his year.

988
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 6: Stop his losses to Jose Aldo.

989
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 5: And then the Korean zombie Chance Sung Jung in a

990
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 5: main event, so that not only set him back but

991
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,280
Speaker 5: forced him to hit the reset button on his career.

992
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,720
Speaker 5: He moves up fifty five and here in that UFC

993
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 5: lightweight debut, heavily favored to get past Hadjovic Ian Parker.

994
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 6: Who do you like?

995
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 10: I think, based on the level of competition, I still

996
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 10: think moy Kano has enough left in the tank. Again

997
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,360
Speaker 10: surprised the odds are so high up there, Knowho and

998
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 10: two and going up in wait.

999
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 3: But this matchup I think favors him.

1000
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:20,720
Speaker 10: I think if he brings his fight to the ground,

1001
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,839
Speaker 10: doesn't get sloppy, uses his range, he should be all right.

1002
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 10: You know, the guy he's fighting, was really losing to

1003
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 10: Martine held until he hit that really magical miracle knee

1004
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 10: that I've never seen before when a guy shoots in

1005
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 10: like that. So I like moy Kano here straight on

1006
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 10: a betting standpoint. It's hard on a minus three hundred plus, right, you.

1007
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 3: Know for a guy who's O and two going up

1008
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 3: in wait, But I think this matchup does favor him.

1009
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:42,919
Speaker 3: Still a talented guy.

1010
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 10: I've heard good things from him, you know, from his

1011
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 10: camp and whatnot, So I like him in this fights though.

1012
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,839
Speaker 5: Yeah, can flow moy Kano a prohibitive favorite monus three

1013
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,919
Speaker 5: twenty five no value there, especially because we haven't seen

1014
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 5: him in the weight class in the UFC, but certainly

1015
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 5: a talented fighter. I'm intrigued to see him without the

1016
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 5: treacherous as well.

1017
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 7: Yeah, listen, I think I don't love him at one

1018
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 7: hundred and fifty five pounds. I'm not sure he's gonna

1019
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 7: do as well as he would at featherweight, but it

1020
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 7: looks like he's trying to reset his career here. I

1021
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 7: do like him in this fight, however, I think he

1022
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 7: matches up pretty well.

1023
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 6: Hopefully he's able to utilize his reach.

1024
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 7: Sometimes he just doesn't take advantage of his reach like

1025
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 7: he did at one forty five, so I think he's

1026
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 7: got to be careful in this fight. Hajjivic is a

1027
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 7: dangerous striker at times, but Moikano should be able to

1028
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 7: get the win here, all right.

1029
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 5: Next up on the main card in the strawweight division,

1030
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 5: Amanda Heboss minus two to seventy versus Random Marcos plus

1031
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:41,879
Speaker 5: two thirty so fourteenth UFC appearance for Random Marcos, whom

1032
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 5: I really like. She's trying to do something here though

1033
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 5: that she has not ever done in the UFC, and

1034
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 5: that's win two in a row. So it's been a

1035
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 5: lot of up and down uh Hebos obviously coming off

1036
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 5: the huge win over the previously undefeated Mackenzie Durned. She's

1037
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 5: two and zero in the UFC, but just nine months

1038
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 5: on the roster. There's no denying he Boss's talent, but

1039
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,040
Speaker 5: she's fighting a strawweight who has as much UFC the

1040
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 5: experience as anyone uh Ian Parker, he Boss or Marcos

1041
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 5: for you.

1042
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 3: I love Hebus here. I love her in general.

1043
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 10: I think she is a tremendous talent and a little

1044
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 10: bit of a breath of fresh air. Overall, skill wise,

1045
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 10: I think random Marcos is still too much of that

1046
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 10: one trick. Pony keeps her hands low, relies on the wrestling,

1047
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 10: but she's so hesitant with her striking, and I think

1048
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 10: Hebos is just gonna be too much, too aggressive and

1049
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 10: too well rounded. Everywhere here I'm going Hebos. Not much

1050
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:25,720
Speaker 10: to really say on this one.

1051
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 5: I never planned my fight ending calls, but the way

1052
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 5: you said he bus there instead of he boss makes

1053
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 5: me think the next time she finishes someone, No, I'm

1054
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 5: not getting on you. I'm saying the next time, I'm

1055
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 5: not getting on you, bro, Relax, next time she finishes.

1056
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 6: Someone, get on the heboss, right, get up now?

1057
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 3: All right, all right, all right, you turned that around. No, No,

1058
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 3: I saw where you were going with that. I'd been

1059
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 3: working really hard.

1060
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:49,839
Speaker 6: In the pronunciations. Yeah, well, real quick.

1061
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 10: I would like to really give a shout out to

1062
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 10: the guy that did that interview with Rashad Evans for

1063
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 10: making me look like such a fucking pro by saying you.

1064
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 3: Are her Mario and Israel Adonis. I love you, I

1065
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 3: will follow you. I don't know who you are, but

1066
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 3: you're awesome.

1067
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:08,320
Speaker 5: Sorry, go ahead, absolutely nailed those two incorrect pronunciations. But

1068
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:15,359
Speaker 5: still couldn't get Kril shown boss versus Marcos Marcos plus

1069
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:17,320
Speaker 5: two thirty any value on that side or no.

1070
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 6: All aboard all aboard the Hebos.

1071
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 7: Listen, Yeah, I think Hebos does everything better really than

1072
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 7: random Marcos said, just to cut to the chase. I

1073
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 7: think where Randa kind of her strengths. I think Hebos

1074
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 7: is still better in those areas. But I think this

1075
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 7: is a fight that is kind of perfect for Hebos

1076
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:37,959
Speaker 7: to really shine. I think she's gonna look really sharp

1077
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 7: on the feet. I think she's gonna be able to

1078
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 7: thwart all those takedown attempts by Marcos up against the

1079
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 7: cage or in the middle of the cage, does not matter.

1080
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 7: I think she's gonna win a lot of those exchanges,

1081
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 7: and she might get a finish over a very tough

1082
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:51,320
Speaker 7: random Marcos.

1083
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 5: See if we were if we were naming our episodes,

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Speaker 5: this would be episode two forty.

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Speaker 6: All aboard the Hebos. Yeah, all right. The cole main

1086
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 6: event will have flowly here.

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Speaker 5: It's at one hundred and seventy pounds Gilbert Urinho Burns

1088
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 5: minus two ten versus Damian Maya plus one seventy five.

1089
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:07,359
Speaker 5: Of course we will need the round and the method

1090
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Speaker 5: of victory. How about Damian Maya. I mean, this is crazy, right,

1091
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:14,879
Speaker 5: So he had the three fight losing streak eleven months ago.

1092
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,720
Speaker 5: Everybody leaves him for dead, winless all of twenty eighteen.

1093
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 5: So twenty nineteen, this motherfucker goes three and oh right,

1094
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 5: what is he?

1095
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 6: Forty four? Now? Probably not that old? So three and oh.

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Speaker 5: Last year I was watching the main event between Maya

1097
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 5: and Askron in a car with Ian Parker. So he

1098
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 5: submits Ben Askron in a main event. Maya is a

1099
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:37,359
Speaker 5: future first ballot UFC hall got it out. He has

1100
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:40,839
Speaker 5: twenty two UFC wins. Of course here flow He's taken

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00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 5: on a guy who's just killing m right now, Gilbert

1102
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 5: Urinho Burns having a lot of success in two divisions.

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00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 5: He's won six of seven, the only loss in there

1104
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 5: by knockout to Dan Hooker. I think back in twenty seventeen,

1105
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:52,439
Speaker 5: what do you think here about your guy Damian Maya

1106
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 5: against another guy who you obviously have a relationship with,

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Speaker 5: Gilbert Reino Burns.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, these are two guys that I don't want to

1109
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 7: see fight each other. I want to see, but I

1110
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:03,880
Speaker 7: don't want to see either of these guys lose. Listen,

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Speaker 7: Damian Maya's nickname should be the Fucking Legend, Damien Fucking

1112
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 7: Legend Maya. He's an absolute hero. But you know, this

1113
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 7: is not an easy fight for either guy. The problem

1114
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:19,240
Speaker 7: is for Damian he tends to struggle against other guys

1115
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:22,800
Speaker 7: with very good takedown games. I think Damian Maya tends

1116
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:25,320
Speaker 7: to come out pretty hot early on with his striking,

1117
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 7: and then you see his volume kind of fade a

1118
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 7: little bit as the fight goes on. I think Gilbert

1119
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 7: Burns has the takedown game to kind of make it

1120
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 7: difficult for Maya to get on top. If basically this

1121
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 7: it comes down to this, the person who gets the

1122
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 7: takedown is gonna win this fight. And if it doesn't

1123
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 7: come down to that, I see Gilbert Burns probably being

1124
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 7: more consistent with his striking a little bit. I think

1125
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 7: he has more power on the feet, and I think

1126
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Speaker 7: if Maya gets it done, it's probably gonna be early.

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00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 7: If this goes decision, I like Gilbert Burns in this fight.

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Speaker 7: I think it will go to decision. I'm gonna go

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Speaker 7: with Gilbert Burns decision over the Legend Damien Maya.

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Speaker 5: All right, Gilbert Burns by decision for Ken Flow by

1131
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 5: the way, forty three in November for Damian Mayas. So

1132
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 5: I got the cap before the horse a little bit there.

1133
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 5: So yeah, it looks like it's gonna be welter white

1134
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 5: for Burns here, at least for the immediate future.

1135
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:17,240
Speaker 6: That's where he's ranked in the UFC.

1136
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 5: A lot of people feel like if he's going to

1137
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 5: be a champion, maybe fifty five is.

1138
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Speaker 6: Where that would happen.

1139
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 5: What are your thoughts on Darinho Burns here in what's

1140
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:27,279
Speaker 5: just a fascinating matchup against the future Hall of Fame.

1141
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 3: Flow was so uncomfortable having a break down that fight.

1142
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:32,879
Speaker 3: He didn't want to upset anyone. Right there.

1143
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:36,440
Speaker 6: I could see he's flow cool. I know he's got him.

1144
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 10: It's like when DC's called a Deron winfight. He says

1145
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:41,800
Speaker 10: the truth, but he's a little bit uncomfortable, but he

1146
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:45,840
Speaker 10: was good. I really, I really like Gilbert Burns in

1147
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:49,399
Speaker 10: this fight. I think Damien is an absolute le legend

1148
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 10: for taking this fight. I I can't believe this is

1149
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 10: who they give him after he beats Asker. You think

1150
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:55,400
Speaker 10: they'd give him something a little bit more favorable of

1151
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 10: a matchup. But he's fighting a guy who on the

1152
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:00,800
Speaker 10: ground is a is an absolute satin. It's just striking

1153
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 10: has evolved tremendously. You know, he can He's gonna be

1154
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:05,799
Speaker 10: the better striker if this fight stays on the feet.

1155
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 10: I think Gilbert Burns can do whatever he wants. And

1156
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 10: on top of that, Gilbert Burns doesn't really have a neck,

1157
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:14,439
Speaker 10: so I don't know what, you know what David's.

1158
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:15,359
Speaker 3: Gonna really latch onto here.

1159
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 10: I don't disagree with Kenny about this going to a

1160
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:20,800
Speaker 10: decision because I just don't see Damien getting subbed. However,

1161
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:23,359
Speaker 10: the only thing I could see happening is Gilbert maybe

1162
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:26,240
Speaker 10: finishing him on the feet. He's got power in those hands,

1163
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 10: you know. But again, this is one of those fights

1164
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:32,800
Speaker 10: where it's close in that regard. However, I am pretty

1165
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 10: confident Gilbert gets to win. I'm gonna roll with Kenny

1166
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:37,400
Speaker 10: on this one. I'm not friends either one of them, but.

1167
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 3: I love both guys. Gilbert Gilbert Burns by decision.

1168
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:46,320
Speaker 5: So complete agreement congruence is that a word? Complete agreement?

1169
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:48,799
Speaker 5: Through four fights here a lot of chuck. Maybe we'll

1170
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 5: have some dissension here. In the main event, Lightweight Kevin

1171
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 5: Lee minus one thirty versus Charles Dubronx Olivera, who is

1172
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 5: plus one to ten.

1173
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 6: How about this flow?

1174
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 5: Kevin Lee in the main event for the sixth time

1175
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 5: in his last seven fights. I mean, that's a lot

1176
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:04,359
Speaker 5: of fucking main events. Thirteen submissions on the other side

1177
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 5: in the UFC for Duke Bronx, more than any fighter

1178
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 5: in UFC history, and he's on a Terry's won six

1179
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:11,319
Speaker 5: in a row since a twenty seventeen lost to Paul

1180
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 5: Felder two. Bronx undefeated in Brazil as well, But so

1181
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 5: is the Motown Feeno. I'm want to know he went

1182
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 5: to fourth Dealaisa back in the day on the equator

1183
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:22,360
Speaker 5: there and submitted Massa ran Duba. You know, wake Cut's

1184
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 5: always a part of the narrative for me during a

1185
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:26,839
Speaker 5: Kevin Lee fight week, especially when the fight is international

1186
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 5: Ian Parker close main event on paper? Will it be

1187
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 5: seven straight for Charles Olivera or do you like Kevin Lee?

1188
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 6: Oh?

1189
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 3: This is so difficult, This is so difficult to choose.

1190
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 10: All of Ara's looked phenomenal, but the level of competition

1191
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 10: he's fought hasn't been overly impressive that I thought anyone

1192
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 10: was really threatening and you know, when Kevin Lee fought

1193
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 10: Gregor in that last fight, I just thought that his

1194
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:49,840
Speaker 10: experience and his level of competition he's fought was a

1195
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 10: difference that kicking Land was insane.

1196
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 3: This is so tough. This is really a hard fight

1197
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 3: for me to pick on a Monday.

1198
00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 10: Yeah, but you know, I just you know, it goes

1199
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 10: to the ground, and I favor Olavera if it stands

1200
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:04,359
Speaker 10: on the feet, stays in the feed. I like Kevin Lee.

1201
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 10: I'm gonna roll the dice here for now. It's Monday.

1202
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 10: I'm gonna go with du Bronx at the moment. I

1203
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 10: am hoping that he can use his range here, use

1204
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 10: the front take because even if he gets taken down,

1205
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 10: he's so dangerous off his back, you know. And Lee's

1206
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 10: not a very long guy, so he will have no

1207
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:20,839
Speaker 10: problem using his long legs to control Lee off his back.

1208
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:22,919
Speaker 10: And I think if this is the time for ola

1209
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:24,759
Speaker 10: Vera to get to that next level and division We've

1210
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 10: always talked about that next step and him not showing he's.

1211
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 3: Got a show here finishing a guy like Kevin Lee

1212
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:30,920
Speaker 3: or beating him.

1213
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 10: It has to happen now, because if it doesn't, where

1214
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 10: does he go from here. This is the big test

1215
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:37,800
Speaker 10: from him. So I'm gonna roll the dice on Monday

1216
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 10: and take Oliver Era. I'm gonna say by Submission'm gonna

1217
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 10: say by rare naga choke. I'll even go I'm gonna

1218
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:44,400
Speaker 10: go second round because I think he has to do

1219
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:47,399
Speaker 10: it early because I don't love his cardio either. So yeah,

1220
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 10: that's where I'm gonna go for the moment here and for.

1221
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:53,359
Speaker 5: Our listeners wondering why Ian is referencing Monday repeatedly. These

1222
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:56,959
Speaker 5: guys reserve the right to literally change their prediction until

1223
00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 5: right up to fight time. Hopefully they would do you

1224
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 5: the service of actually out of tweet as well and

1225
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 5: not just send me the text. Yes, OLIVERA by submission

1226
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 5: for Ian Parker ken Flow. I like the fact that

1227
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 5: Kevin Lee has aligned with Farasa hobby right. I don't

1228
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:13,360
Speaker 5: know if you have any extra intel because of that,

1229
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:16,400
Speaker 5: but I really do like that relationship. Huge result for

1230
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 5: that team obviously. At UFC two forty four with the

1231
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 5: knockout of Gregor Gillespie, how do you see the main

1232
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 5: event playing out?

1233
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:21,880
Speaker 6: Kit?

1234
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 7: You know, I think you make a great point because

1235
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:28,359
Speaker 7: if he was facing Charles Olivera maybe with a different camp.

1236
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 7: I'm not sure I'd be so confident in my pick

1237
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 7: if I were to go the way of Kevin Lee.

1238
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 7: I am gonna go the way of Kevin Lee. I

1239
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:38,400
Speaker 7: think Faras will have them prepared for someone like a

1240
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:43,880
Speaker 7: Charles Olivera. He'll certainly have the takedown game you know

1241
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 7: on lock. I think as far as the striking goes,

1242
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:50,320
Speaker 7: they're they're both about. Even Oliver Era is dangerous with

1243
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 7: his knees. I think Kevin Lee's kicks. I think his

1244
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:56,320
Speaker 7: punches are are good to set up those kicks. I

1245
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 7: think the most dangerous part of Kevin Lee's game though,

1246
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:00,840
Speaker 7: are those kicks, whether he's a hacking the legs or

1247
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 7: going upstairs for a roundhouse kick. I do think he

1248
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:07,839
Speaker 7: should look to try to steal some rounds, take him down,

1249
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:10,359
Speaker 7: try to grind on him, get him tired. I think

1250
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 7: Oliver is most dangerous in the transition when you get

1251
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 7: him into some static positions like his guard and kind

1252
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:17,439
Speaker 7: of slow him down.

1253
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 6: He's not able to be as creative. He needs movement,

1254
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 6: he needs space.

1255
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 7: I think Kevin Lee can kind of take that away

1256
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:26,319
Speaker 7: from him, both on the feet by pressuring him up

1257
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:29,359
Speaker 7: against the cage and on the ground by keeping his head,

1258
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 7: you know, above that head level where he can land

1259
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 7: some ground and pound and stay out of the submissions.

1260
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 7: At the same time, I like Kevin Lee here, I'm

1261
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 7: gonna go with third round TKO Kevin Lee.

1262
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 6: Round three TKO Kevin.

1263
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:45,760
Speaker 7: But and as Ian said, I, you know, I would

1264
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:47,840
Speaker 7: like to see how they look weighing in. That is

1265
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 7: always a factor for Kevin. You know, wayans can be

1266
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 7: a problem for him. So we'll see coming.

1267
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:54,439
Speaker 6: Up this week.

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00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:57,759
Speaker 5: Ian Parker on social media at Parker Cage Hero and

1269
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 5: omnipresent on that and Florian hod Page as well. We

1270
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 5: will have an Instagram live for you coming up Saturday

1271
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:06,399
Speaker 5: before the fight's Ian Parker. Great stuff, my man, Drive

1272
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:11,760
Speaker 5: safely on your way home. We'll see you next week. Yeah, buddy,

1273
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:14,839
Speaker 5: Thanks dude, dude, all right, we got.

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00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 6: To get on out of here.

1275
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Speaker 5: Good stuff today, inspired stuff out of Ray Longo. Thanks

1276
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 5: to Ian Parker, thanks to our sponsor Manscape, Thanks to TJ. DeSantis,

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Speaker 5: Mike Kech On the video side, please subscribe to our

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Speaker 5: new YouTube channel. By the way, Yes, we're coming up

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Speaker 5: on the five year anniversary of this program. But trying

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Speaker 5: to get it up ticket the video subscriptions and really

1281
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Speaker 5: try to take that part of it to the requisite

1282
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Speaker 5: next level. On social media, it is at Anni Florian

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Speaker 5: Pod and want to email the show Anti Florian Podcast

1284
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Speaker 5: at gmail dot com. Next Monday, full recap of Kevin

1285
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 5: Lee and Charles Duke bronxsolo era and a preview of

1286
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 5: Tyron Woodley's return. You know that's gonna be interesting, kenfo

1287
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 5: with all the coronavirus backdrop, how that London event, London

1288
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:55,719
Speaker 5: event could be affected, So it'll be Leon Edwards and

1289
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 5: Tyron Woodley. Full previewing predictions coming up next week. May

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Speaker 5: ROCKYBJJ dot com if you want to check out ken

1291
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 5: Flow School in the LA area. With that for Ken

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Speaker 5: Plump John and thank you all for listening for watching

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Speaker 5: everything else. We'll talk to you next Monday. Until then,

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