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The two of us are bringing the 0:01:10.400 --> 0:01:12.760 knowledge from a career as NFL talent scouts to the 0:01:12.760 --> 0:01:16.839 podcast world so fans can watch and understand the nuances 0:01:16.880 --> 0:01:19.880 of the game like never before. We'll break down film 0:01:19.920 --> 0:01:22.399 from the professional and college game to get you ready 0:01:22.440 --> 0:01:25.000 for the Super Bowl, the Draft, and kick off next fall. 0:01:25.440 --> 0:01:27.800 Subscribe now and listen to the Move the Sticks podcast 0:01:27.880 --> 0:01:30.640 on the I Heart Radio app, on Apple Podcasts, or 0:01:30.640 --> 0:01:40.199 wherever you get your podcasts. Hello everybody, it's Brian Baumgartner 0:01:40.360 --> 0:01:43.960 here and I played Kevin Malone on the Office and 0:01:44.120 --> 0:01:54.920 I also host this podcast. Hello everybody, and welcome to 0:01:55.160 --> 0:01:59.200 another episode of The Office Deep Dive. In fact, it's 0:01:59.200 --> 0:02:03.360 our final episode of The Office Deep Dive. As always, 0:02:03.560 --> 0:02:07.480 I am your host, Brian Baumgartner, and today we're gonna 0:02:07.520 --> 0:02:10.160 do something a little different. You're gonna hear from me, 0:02:10.600 --> 0:02:14.000 maybe more than you want to. But what I wanted 0:02:14.040 --> 0:02:17.400 to do today was to look back and finally tell 0:02:17.440 --> 0:02:20.919 the story of how all of this came to be, 0:02:21.120 --> 0:02:23.880 how this podcast came to be. And then I want 0:02:23.880 --> 0:02:28.200 to look forward into our vision for where this podcast 0:02:28.280 --> 0:02:30.640 goes next, for where it goes into the future, and 0:02:30.720 --> 0:02:34.360 let you know how excited we all are for our 0:02:34.600 --> 0:02:38.760 next iteration, which, to be clear, will be available on 0:02:38.800 --> 0:02:41.760 the very same channel that you found this episode today. 0:02:41.919 --> 0:02:44.720 You don't have to go download a new podcast or 0:02:44.919 --> 0:02:47.880 go looking for me somewhere else. You'll find me in 0:02:47.919 --> 0:02:50.680 the very same place that I have been for the 0:02:50.760 --> 0:02:57.720 last year. But today is February eight and this podcast 0:02:57.800 --> 0:03:06.440 I launched started almost exactly one year ago today February ninth. Now, 0:03:06.480 --> 0:03:10.120 I'm gonna go into the numbers, because you know I'm 0:03:10.160 --> 0:03:13.119 a numbers guy. I'm gonna go into the numbers over 0:03:13.120 --> 0:03:16.440 the last year, which are staggering and humbling to me 0:03:16.520 --> 0:03:18.520 and a little bit. But I want to start first 0:03:19.280 --> 0:03:24.840 back in September of twenty nineteen, now that is two 0:03:25.000 --> 0:03:29.840 and a half years ago. That's where this started. I 0:03:29.919 --> 0:03:34.200 was shooting a movie in Columbus, Georgia. Electric Jesus available 0:03:34.400 --> 0:03:38.720 on all streaming platforms today, and I get a call 0:03:39.200 --> 0:03:43.160 from Ben Silverman saying he wants to talk to me. Now, 0:03:43.720 --> 0:03:46.440 if Ben Silverman calls and says he wants to talk 0:03:46.480 --> 0:03:50.720 to me, I make time to answer the phone. And 0:03:51.200 --> 0:03:53.160 I was on the East coast, he was on the 0:03:53.200 --> 0:03:57.640 West coast, and we agreed on eight thirty pm on 0:03:57.680 --> 0:04:00.880 the East Coast five thirty his time, and I get 0:04:00.920 --> 0:04:06.120 on the phone and I'm introduced to Lingley, who works 0:04:06.160 --> 0:04:10.680 for Ben. And Ben is on the phone and he says, look, 0:04:10.720 --> 0:04:16.120 we've been working with Spotify about doing a podcast on 0:04:16.160 --> 0:04:20.600 the office, and I want to know your thoughts or 0:04:20.640 --> 0:04:23.760 if you have any ideas about how we might approach 0:04:23.880 --> 0:04:26.880 a podcast on the office. And I said, well, this 0:04:26.960 --> 0:04:29.760 is amazing. And we run through a couple of ideas 0:04:29.839 --> 0:04:32.640 and LNG has some ideas and Ben has some ideas 0:04:32.680 --> 0:04:36.360 and I'm like, okay, this is great. I'm in Columbus, Georgia, 0:04:36.720 --> 0:04:40.800 and I'm I'm a little busy right now shooting this movie, 0:04:41.320 --> 0:04:44.880 so let's talk as soon as I'm back. So I 0:04:45.000 --> 0:04:50.599 return home and ling contact me about having a meeting 0:04:50.760 --> 0:04:53.760 at their offices and I'm thinking, oh, I'm just going 0:04:53.839 --> 0:04:55.919 up and we're just going to kind of continue the 0:04:55.920 --> 0:04:59.159 conversation about the podcast. This is the idiot that I am. 0:04:59.560 --> 0:05:02.920 And I drive up and oh, I have this errand 0:05:02.920 --> 0:05:05.760 and it's taking me a little extra time and send 0:05:05.800 --> 0:05:08.640 an email saying like, oh, you know, I'm gonna be 0:05:08.680 --> 0:05:11.760 a little bit later than I said, and um she says, 0:05:11.800 --> 0:05:15.000 no problem, no problem, And so I get to their 0:05:15.040 --> 0:05:20.479 offices and I walk into a conference room much like 0:05:20.560 --> 0:05:24.000 the conference room at dunder Mifflin, about the same size 0:05:24.160 --> 0:05:26.919 and shape actually, with a giant table in the middle. 0:05:27.600 --> 0:05:31.359 And I walk in and there's I don't know, twelve 0:05:31.440 --> 0:05:34.839 to fifteen people around the table, but it feels like 0:05:34.960 --> 0:05:38.000 fifty to me, and there's a spot at the head 0:05:38.040 --> 0:05:42.120 of the table which is clearly for me, and clearly 0:05:42.160 --> 0:05:45.200 they have been waiting there in this room for me, 0:05:45.839 --> 0:05:49.400 and so I think, oh, this was not what I thought. 0:05:49.839 --> 0:05:52.719 I thought we were having a casual conversation about how 0:05:52.720 --> 0:05:56.200 to maybe pursue this podcast. And then the next thing 0:05:56.240 --> 0:05:59.360 that happens is lying introduces me to the table as 0:05:59.480 --> 0:06:04.120 the exact producer of this podcast, The Office podcast for Spotify, 0:06:04.200 --> 0:06:07.200 and I think, well, that's not exactly where I thought 0:06:07.240 --> 0:06:10.480 we were at this moment either. I hope I thought 0:06:10.480 --> 0:06:15.680 of something good to say, because now I feel completely 0:06:15.720 --> 0:06:21.120 on the spot and I had this idea we could 0:06:21.160 --> 0:06:26.240 have put together a podcast which would have been a well, 0:06:26.279 --> 0:06:30.400 we could have done a professorial explanation of why the 0:06:30.560 --> 0:06:34.800 Office is so great and all of the people who 0:06:34.960 --> 0:06:39.000 put it together are so great, and and lectured two 0:06:39.760 --> 0:06:42.679 our listeners. This this that idea was not so interesting 0:06:42.720 --> 0:06:47.040 to me. But what was interesting to me was questions. 0:06:47.600 --> 0:06:49.919 And the question that I had, which was a true 0:06:50.120 --> 0:06:54.720 and real question at the time, was why is the 0:06:54.839 --> 0:06:58.839 office bigger now than it was when we were a 0:06:58.920 --> 0:07:03.719 hit on NB See through conversations, most notably I would 0:07:03.760 --> 0:07:07.800 say Rain Wilson definitely, Oscar nuon Yez and Angela Kenzie 0:07:07.800 --> 0:07:11.480 and Jenna Fisher as well, but most notably Rain and 0:07:11.560 --> 0:07:16.320 I would talk and be like, man, I'm getting noticed 0:07:16.360 --> 0:07:20.400 a lot more in airports again now, like it felt different, 0:07:20.440 --> 0:07:25.640 like palpably different in the world. And my question was 0:07:26.000 --> 0:07:30.400 true and legitimate, which is why. So this is November 0:07:30.440 --> 0:07:35.440 of and so we began work right away on this approach. 0:07:35.480 --> 0:07:37.680 But there was something that I knew that we needed. 0:07:38.320 --> 0:07:42.840 We had an essentially an eight hour order from Spotify. 0:07:43.120 --> 0:07:44.960 We knew we wanted to do us to talk to 0:07:45.000 --> 0:07:50.200 the key people involved. So immediately I go, well, we 0:07:50.240 --> 0:07:54.920 need some people's blessing and we need their agreement to participate. 0:07:55.560 --> 0:08:00.480 So I contact Greg Daniels and I asked for or 0:08:00.560 --> 0:08:05.000 his blessing and participation, and he not only agreed to 0:08:05.040 --> 0:08:09.920 participate and gave me his blessing. He was genuinely excited 0:08:10.360 --> 0:08:13.360 right away, and I thought, Okay, well we've got Greg 0:08:13.880 --> 0:08:19.160 which that's dad, that's huge. And then I contacted Rain 0:08:19.200 --> 0:08:23.680 Wilson and Steve Carrell and Jenna Fisher and Angela Kinsey 0:08:23.760 --> 0:08:27.120 because they had started Office Ladies and John Krasinski and 0:08:27.160 --> 0:08:30.840 I wanted to try to get some of our key 0:08:30.880 --> 0:08:36.520 people on board. Every single person I contacted said yes, 0:08:36.600 --> 0:08:40.240 I'm in. But I contacted Rain Wilson early and I said, 0:08:40.280 --> 0:08:42.640 will you sit down with me? And he says yes, 0:08:42.960 --> 0:08:45.480 But after the first of the year, I'm going to 0:08:45.559 --> 0:08:48.760 be shooting this movie. I'm gonna be incredibly busy. I 0:08:48.760 --> 0:08:55.640 would love to do it. Can we do it now? Not? Well, sure, yes, 0:08:55.920 --> 0:09:01.400 we're We're prepared. And we talked for over two hours, 0:09:01.840 --> 0:09:04.960 and I had had this idea that if we're talking 0:09:05.000 --> 0:09:10.000 to everybody, aren't people gonna want to hear more from 0:09:10.040 --> 0:09:14.239 these people than just this eight hour story. Well, immediately 0:09:14.320 --> 0:09:19.600 after this interview, Laying turns to me and says, we've 0:09:19.640 --> 0:09:23.439 got to release these full interviews. We we have to 0:09:24.080 --> 0:09:27.200 because see, for us, there were two parts. One was 0:09:27.240 --> 0:09:29.800 to tell the story, but the other thing that was 0:09:29.920 --> 0:09:35.040 so exciting to me was to let people get to 0:09:35.240 --> 0:09:40.360 know the real people behind the roles that they had played. 0:09:41.080 --> 0:09:45.480 And I felt like that by me conducting these interviews, 0:09:46.280 --> 0:09:49.320 that you were going to hear these people in an 0:09:49.440 --> 0:09:52.880 unfiltered way and in a way that you had never 0:09:52.960 --> 0:09:58.480 heard them in a standard interview setting before. So we 0:09:58.600 --> 0:10:02.520 released Oral History of the Office through Spotify, and people 0:10:02.559 --> 0:10:06.360 seem to really like it, and we won a Webby 0:10:06.440 --> 0:10:09.800 Award for an Oral History of the Office and a 0:10:09.880 --> 0:10:13.360 Webby Award just basically just know this. It's like the 0:10:13.400 --> 0:10:17.439 oscars of podcasts. Okay, that's that's at least how it's 0:10:17.440 --> 0:10:20.040 been explained to me. And you know, all of us 0:10:20.120 --> 0:10:25.680 were incredibly satisfied with the attention that in Oral History 0:10:25.679 --> 0:10:29.200 of the Office got because we put our heart and 0:10:29.320 --> 0:10:33.280 our soul into it. But I still said, we have 0:10:33.360 --> 0:10:36.640 to release these interviews. By the time we had completed 0:10:36.760 --> 0:10:39.800 interviewing folks for an Oral History of the Office, we 0:10:39.840 --> 0:10:44.400 had over a hundred hours of recorded interviews. I was like, 0:10:45.360 --> 0:10:48.320 we're just going to cut that down to eight and 0:10:48.480 --> 0:10:52.600 throw away over ninety two hours. See, there's some of 0:10:52.600 --> 0:10:55.800 the math at work, and that's where the Office Deep 0:10:55.800 --> 0:11:00.480 Dive was born. In a year plus. We've done seventy 0:11:00.559 --> 0:11:04.120 three podcast episodes over the last year. We've never taken 0:11:04.120 --> 0:11:08.480 a week off. We had forty eight guests, sixty three 0:11:08.679 --> 0:11:12.760 call in guests, So listeners like you who have called in, 0:11:13.480 --> 0:11:17.240 and we have total downloads of over twenty six million, 0:11:17.960 --> 0:11:24.520 that is staggering to me and deeply, deeply humbling that 0:11:25.600 --> 0:11:28.560 not only did you tune in for Steve Carrell and 0:11:28.640 --> 0:11:32.840 John Krasinski, but you tuned in for people that you 0:11:32.920 --> 0:11:36.760 may never have heard of before this podcast. I mean 0:11:36.840 --> 0:11:42.120 Greg Daniels interviews still one of the highest listen to 0:11:42.640 --> 0:11:47.760 of all and crew members Debbie Pierce, Laverne, Kara Kusi. 0:11:48.600 --> 0:11:51.839 Those episodes. People are listening to them just as much 0:11:51.920 --> 0:11:55.280 as they're listening to some of the well let's just 0:11:55.320 --> 0:12:00.520 call them household names. 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I didn't know that from Laverne are head 0:15:33.800 --> 0:15:38.520 makeup artist telling me during the writer's strike about Greg 0:15:38.600 --> 0:15:42.040 Daniels writing a personal check to everybody on the crew 0:15:42.520 --> 0:15:45.400 because he wanted them to feel valued and he knew 0:15:45.400 --> 0:15:48.200 what a difficult time they were going through during the 0:15:48.200 --> 0:15:52.200 writer's strike at the holidays. I will never forget that. 0:15:52.240 --> 0:15:57.840 And I didn't know that before two Phyllis and Alison 0:15:57.960 --> 0:16:03.360 Jones being reunited after so many years, Me and Steve 0:16:03.680 --> 0:16:07.400 having the opportunity to face time with Billie Eilish after 0:16:07.480 --> 0:16:12.200 she won fifty seven Grammy Awards the night before or whatever, 0:16:13.160 --> 0:16:15.640 and then hearing from so many of you the greatest 0:16:15.840 --> 0:16:20.160 gift that the office gave me, truly, and I mean 0:16:20.240 --> 0:16:25.240 this is being approached by fans who let us know 0:16:26.200 --> 0:16:31.400 how important it is for them to tell us that 0:16:31.480 --> 0:16:34.840 the Office has given them comfort during a very difficult time. 0:16:35.520 --> 0:16:38.760 The fact that the show has connected with people and 0:16:38.800 --> 0:16:42.400 continues to connect with people so strongly and has brought 0:16:42.480 --> 0:16:47.880 them comfort during times overseas, serving in the military, being 0:16:47.920 --> 0:16:53.080 hospitalized for a significant illness, having a family issue that 0:16:53.160 --> 0:16:56.000 they needed comfort for that the Office has brought them comfort, 0:16:56.760 --> 0:17:00.200 and that people telling me giving me the gift of 0:17:00.360 --> 0:17:03.600 telling me that the Office has brought them comfort during 0:17:03.600 --> 0:17:06.800 a difficult time. That is the greatest gift that the 0:17:06.800 --> 0:17:09.479 show has given me. And this podcast has given me 0:17:09.560 --> 0:17:12.840 being able to connect with so many of you who 0:17:13.000 --> 0:17:18.080 called in, who wrote in questions, who had genuine curiosity 0:17:18.160 --> 0:17:21.280 about something, or just wanted me to know that the 0:17:21.320 --> 0:17:24.320 Office has given them comfort and that they continue to watch. 0:17:25.000 --> 0:17:29.520 Is I mean, how could that not be humbling? And 0:17:29.560 --> 0:17:32.800 I have to tell you this alright, my mom. My 0:17:32.840 --> 0:17:36.280 mom listens to everything. Okay, let me be clear. She 0:17:36.400 --> 0:17:41.040 listens to everything all of the podcast, and she rarely 0:17:41.160 --> 0:17:45.439 responds or makes comments about them. But she told me 0:17:46.280 --> 0:17:51.560 that her absolute favorite episodes were the call in episodes, 0:17:51.840 --> 0:17:55.080 hearing from so many of you. So I think that 0:17:55.480 --> 0:18:00.639 is a testament to one, well, my mom being cool, 0:18:01.200 --> 0:18:05.920 but also that everyone who has an opinion has value 0:18:05.960 --> 0:18:09.800 and that you guys have listened and responded to Again, 0:18:10.040 --> 0:18:12.760 not just the big stars of the office, but to 0:18:12.880 --> 0:18:16.879 everyone who worked on or was a fan of the show. 0:18:17.520 --> 0:18:23.800 You know, this podcast also has provided me with so many, 0:18:24.160 --> 0:18:31.720 uh incredibly surreal and beautiful moments. I've been to Scranton 0:18:32.080 --> 0:18:36.840 twice since this podcast journeys begin. What's better than that 0:18:37.119 --> 0:18:40.199 being able to go back to Scranton not just once, 0:18:40.760 --> 0:18:44.440 but twice through this process. As many of you know, 0:18:45.200 --> 0:18:48.919 I wrote a book, Welcome to dunder Mifflin. Myself and 0:18:49.000 --> 0:18:53.000 Ben Silverman co authored the book with Greg Daniels, who 0:18:53.040 --> 0:18:56.760 wrote the foreword. We talked to Chris Hasten, who took 0:18:56.960 --> 0:19:00.320 so many of the pictures never before seen picture that 0:19:00.359 --> 0:19:04.480 are included in the book. And went back to Chandler 0:19:04.640 --> 0:19:09.400 Valley Studios are old home and walking in like it 0:19:09.440 --> 0:19:12.480 had been so long and like I had just been 0:19:12.520 --> 0:19:18.280 there yesterday. I mean truly like goose bump moments. Seeing 0:19:18.320 --> 0:19:22.200 Tom Melby, the guy we worked with all of those years. 0:19:22.320 --> 0:19:25.639 Every single day he manages the stage there, and he 0:19:25.680 --> 0:19:28.720 showed up in the parking lot with his dunder Mifflin 0:19:28.920 --> 0:19:33.160 Warehouse shirt on for us and telling us Ben Silverman 0:19:33.200 --> 0:19:37.280 and I about how he has to keep replacing the 0:19:37.320 --> 0:19:40.399 wind screen that he puts over the gate so that 0:19:40.480 --> 0:19:43.200 people don't just stand there and take pictures because now 0:19:43.480 --> 0:19:46.680 there are other shows and other shoots that are happening there. 0:19:47.160 --> 0:19:50.480 So he puts up a windscreen so that people can't 0:19:50.520 --> 0:19:53.320 stand there on the street and take pictures and be loud, 0:19:54.080 --> 0:19:57.080 and that he has to replace that because people come 0:19:57.240 --> 0:20:00.480 with a knife and they slit a hole in the 0:20:00.520 --> 0:20:03.680 windscreen so they can pry their care they can pry 0:20:03.720 --> 0:20:05.720 it open so they can get their camera in to 0:20:05.760 --> 0:20:09.920 take pictures of the front of well fictional dunder Mifflin. 0:20:10.000 --> 0:20:13.200 But the front of Chandler Valley Studios was so awesome 0:20:13.320 --> 0:20:17.520 to be back there. So many incredible moments that have 0:20:17.600 --> 0:20:22.080 happened over the last year, and I'm so proud of 0:20:22.119 --> 0:20:24.919 this podcast and the conversations that I've been able to 0:20:24.960 --> 0:20:28.159 have with people. And look, I want to continue to 0:20:28.200 --> 0:20:30.919 talk to people. There are still more people from the 0:20:31.000 --> 0:20:34.240 office that we haven't spoken to. But I wanted to 0:20:34.320 --> 0:20:37.440 expand the podcast, and I wanted to talk to more 0:20:37.840 --> 0:20:40.720 of my other friends in the business and meet new 0:20:40.800 --> 0:20:45.880 friends who have worked on classic television shows and entertained 0:20:46.320 --> 0:20:50.960 me for years. I worked with a French director for 0:20:51.000 --> 0:20:53.760 a number of years in the theater, and he taught 0:20:53.800 --> 0:20:55.679 me an important lesson. You may have heard this before 0:20:55.800 --> 0:20:58.160 from me, but this is obviously it's made an impact 0:20:58.359 --> 0:21:03.040 to me. And he talked at me that comedy exists 0:21:03.960 --> 0:21:08.320 off the beat, that there's a predictable rhythm that a 0:21:08.400 --> 0:21:12.880 lot of comedy falls into, but the true comedy, things 0:21:12.920 --> 0:21:17.720 that really make us laugh or surprise us happen off 0:21:17.760 --> 0:21:21.280 the beat. And Greg Daniels, then, I mean, the circle 0:21:21.480 --> 0:21:25.840 is so clear. Greg Daniels talks about that a lot 0:21:25.880 --> 0:21:31.480 with the office that he wanted to disrupt the predictable beat, 0:21:31.560 --> 0:21:35.639 the predictable timing of how things would happen, because he 0:21:35.720 --> 0:21:40.640 felt like that would surprise and delight audiences right from 0:21:40.920 --> 0:21:44.480 Pam and Jim getting engaged in the rain at a 0:21:44.560 --> 0:21:50.359 gas station, right not in the most romantic bridge with 0:21:50.440 --> 0:21:54.359 a babbling brook nearby, with flowers and flutes and no, 0:21:55.040 --> 0:21:59.440 that that surprising moment could bring more beauty than anything else. 0:21:59.800 --> 0:22:02.400 So my next podcast, that's what I decided to call 0:22:02.440 --> 0:22:04.840 it Off the Beat, because I want to talk to 0:22:04.920 --> 0:22:11.760 people throughout television, other entertainers, other comedians, eventually other figures 0:22:11.800 --> 0:22:15.480 from the sports world, and talk to them not about 0:22:15.520 --> 0:22:19.440 what everybody talks to them about their Emmy wins. We'll 0:22:19.440 --> 0:22:22.720 talk about that, but the moments that happened in their 0:22:22.760 --> 0:22:27.280 life off the beat, the unexpected moments that happened for 0:22:27.359 --> 0:22:31.679 them that truly make them one who they are and 0:22:31.760 --> 0:22:35.120 to make the choices that they make in their art 0:22:35.480 --> 0:22:39.200 or in their sport. So as we move forward, I'm 0:22:39.280 --> 0:22:42.560 so excited because I want to keep talking about folks 0:22:42.600 --> 0:22:45.119 who worked on the office. I have a couple of 0:22:45.119 --> 0:22:48.199 guests that I am I was so excited, but you 0:22:48.200 --> 0:22:51.280 know a lot of them now are known for other 0:22:51.359 --> 0:22:55.280 works as well. So that's where we're going with this podcast. 0:22:55.320 --> 0:22:58.399 And I am so excited to continue to explore the 0:22:58.440 --> 0:23:02.679 same questions that we've been asking, but explore them with 0:23:02.880 --> 0:23:07.199 different artists who have excelled in their own areas of 0:23:07.280 --> 0:23:10.840 expertise for years and years, that have entertained us in 0:23:10.880 --> 0:23:15.280 one way or another, or at least that entertained me. Commune. 0:23:15.320 --> 0:23:18.760 It is my show, after all, right. I want to 0:23:18.800 --> 0:23:22.040 finish this look over the last year with my good 0:23:22.080 --> 0:23:27.280 friend Michem Padre, my co author of Welcome to dunder 0:23:27.280 --> 0:23:30.760 Mifflin Ben Silverman. I want to welcome him back onto 0:23:30.760 --> 0:23:34.240 the podcast. Here I mean, look, he's the reason that 0:23:34.280 --> 0:23:37.440 The Office exists in the United States. There, I mean, 0:23:37.800 --> 0:23:40.919 that's just a fact. He is the reason that, you know, 0:23:41.000 --> 0:23:44.200 the show and his insights on well, not just helping 0:23:44.240 --> 0:23:48.840 to put this podcast together and participate in allowing himself 0:23:48.920 --> 0:23:52.840 to be interviewed for I think four sessions, but also 0:23:53.560 --> 0:23:56.240 him and I working on this book together, and I 0:23:56.240 --> 0:23:59.560 wanted to talk a little bit more to Ben about 0:24:00.320 --> 0:24:04.320 about the last year together. So there it is, and 0:24:04.400 --> 0:24:14.920 here he is. Everybody Welcome, Ben Silverman, Bubble and Squeak. 0:24:16.240 --> 0:24:22.080 I love it. Bubble and squeak on Bubble and Squeaker 0:24:22.200 --> 0:24:26.440 Cookie at every month left over from the night before. 0:24:36.560 --> 0:24:39.920 Oh my god, I miss you. I know. How's it going. 0:24:40.160 --> 0:24:42.639 It's great. What mic are you using? Is that like 0:24:42.720 --> 0:24:45.960 your headphone Mike? Yeah, it's my headphone Mike with the 0:24:46.040 --> 0:24:54.520 burly tones of Brian b Um. Ben. I'm so excited 0:24:54.560 --> 0:24:58.959 to be talking to you yet again. One year after 0:24:59.320 --> 0:25:03.320 The Office, Deep Dive launched. Now The Office, as we've 0:25:03.320 --> 0:25:07.320 talked about a lot, it started as as an underdog show, right, 0:25:07.359 --> 0:25:10.760 we were like the little engine that could. So much 0:25:10.760 --> 0:25:18.320 has changed now after all of these years. You don't 0:25:18.359 --> 0:25:22.080 have to convince anybody to watch the show anymore. And 0:25:22.280 --> 0:25:27.000 now you and I we've written a book about the show. 0:25:27.080 --> 0:25:29.760 How does it feel to be a best selling author? 0:25:31.040 --> 0:25:35.399 It's it's so fun and truly one of the things 0:25:35.560 --> 0:25:40.520 I tell people first about myself when they meet your father. Yes, 0:25:40.680 --> 0:25:46.040 New York biselling author. Yes, no, I absolutely I introduced myself. 0:25:46.080 --> 0:25:49.320 Actually it is now My first first name is New 0:25:49.400 --> 0:25:53.520 York Times tessell author Ben Silverman, so that it's something 0:25:53.720 --> 0:25:57.320 I'm running with. I've taken on so much new kind 0:25:57.320 --> 0:26:01.520 of creative authority and ownership of my my life process. 0:26:01.520 --> 0:26:08.880 It's fabulous, right. I just played golf in this LPGA tournament. 0:26:09.160 --> 0:26:12.199 But when they introduced me on the first tea, there's 0:26:12.320 --> 0:26:15.000 like the same introduction that they introduced me at at 0:26:15.040 --> 0:26:18.200 every golf turn, you know, emmy winning, blah blah blah. 0:26:18.280 --> 0:26:20.520 And I made them change it right on the spot. 0:26:20.640 --> 0:26:24.040 I made them add New York Times best selling author 0:26:24.640 --> 0:26:27.520 to my introduction, just because it at least it makes 0:26:27.560 --> 0:26:30.200 me seem smarter than I am. I think it makes 0:26:30.200 --> 0:26:34.239 you seem smarter, and that's why I am enjoying it. 0:26:34.359 --> 0:26:36.960 I found it to be one of the more validating 0:26:37.680 --> 0:26:40.840 runs I am um, you know a little sad that 0:26:41.040 --> 0:26:44.399 our great partners at our book company did not print 0:26:44.840 --> 0:26:47.240 the millions of books that they should have because there's 0:26:47.280 --> 0:26:50.399 so much pent up demand. And these books are now 0:26:50.440 --> 0:26:53.840 trading on eBay at a premium because they're impossible to find. 0:26:54.280 --> 0:26:56.639 And I just wanted to make sure that all of 0:26:56.680 --> 0:27:00.280 your fans and the fans of this great podcast know 0:27:00.440 --> 0:27:03.480 that there will be a new printing of the book 0:27:04.040 --> 0:27:07.760 ordered by HarperCollins that is going to hit the shelves 0:27:07.840 --> 0:27:10.600 around March due to some of the supply chain issues 0:27:10.640 --> 0:27:14.720 affecting all industries. And you should just pre order now 0:27:14.800 --> 0:27:17.240 and get excited because the book will be out. It 0:27:17.320 --> 0:27:20.080 is already trading at a premium. It's almost like its 0:27:20.119 --> 0:27:22.399