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Speaker 4: To Girls Talk, Boys Talk, presented by Jigsaw, the preferred

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Speaker 4: I'm the coach, sent alongside Jess Navars and Isaiah Mourray.

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Speaker 2: Oh y'all, Okay, that's what'll be on today.

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Speaker 5: All right, we love we love you.

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Speaker 2: Payne Isaiah y'all.

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Speaker 4: Backstory.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry they gave her the wrong name tag they did.

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Speaker 2: That's crazy. He completely like I got a brother named

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Speaker 2: I guess. I'm it happens to the best of us.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry. Well, yes, I will be fair.

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Speaker 5: Right before we started recording, it almost called you Isiah,

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Speaker 5: just like this where Isaiah sits to know I think.

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Speaker 4: So, yeah, that's funny.

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Speaker 2: All right, that's funny.

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry about I had to start off on a

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Speaker 4: good yea perfect unfortunately, I mean, well not really unfortunate,

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Speaker 4: because let's just hope it doesn't happen. We got some

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Speaker 4: news reports say that teams have requested to interview, of course,

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Speaker 4: defensive coordinator Dan Quinn and VP of Player Personnel Will McClay.

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Speaker 4: M We do not want to see them to go,

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Speaker 4: of course, but I listened, I know, just also listened

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Speaker 4: to Jerry Jones this morning on one O five through

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Speaker 4: the fan and Jerry basically what I got from what

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Speaker 4: I got from that is that of course a lot

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Speaker 4: of teams were interested in several coaches, so not just

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Speaker 4: Dan Quinn and Will McLay. But he did make it

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Speaker 4: clear that they are not required to grant permission. He

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Speaker 4: made it very clear that they are not required to

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Speaker 6: So let's hope that they.

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Speaker 4: Don't grant permission for dan Quinn and Wilma. You heard that, Jerry,

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Speaker 4: but no, yeah, so let's just but no, that was

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Speaker 4: just the gist of it. They did ask, you know,

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Speaker 4: what's your confidence level in keeping dan Quinn and Will

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Speaker 4: McClay And we didn't get a concrete answer for that one,

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Speaker 4: but hopefully, hopefully those guys.

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Speaker 2: Those two guys stay.

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Speaker 4: But that's it's great opportunities for Dan Quinn will possibly

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Speaker 4: be a head coach and Will McClay to be a GM.

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Speaker 4: But I know they're they're really happy in Dallas.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And you know, it's the same conversation pretty much

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Speaker 5: the last three years because they've been successful. And Jerry

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Speaker 5: talked about that. He said, when you're having success like this,

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Speaker 5: obviously you're going to be more attractive to other teams

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Speaker 5: in the NFL, and rightfully so for teams that are

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Speaker 5: struggling and want to start a new chapter in a

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Speaker 5: new era, that's going to find success where it can.

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Speaker 5: But honestly, all of that doesn't really matter this week

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Speaker 5: to me. I obviously we have to talk about it

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Speaker 5: and we have to report on it because it's our

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Speaker 5: job and that's our due diligence. I don't care. The

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Speaker 5: focus is on the playoffs. The focus is on the Packers,

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Speaker 5: and I based on how Dan handled this last year

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Speaker 5: pretty much guarantee he is laser focused. Despite all of

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Speaker 5: the outside noise and chatter, he wants his team to

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Speaker 5: win and all of their priority right now is to

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Speaker 5: I get why it's a conversation. We talked about this yesterday,

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Speaker 5: but it's not It's not the focus right now for

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Speaker 5: me at least, and I don't think it is for

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Speaker 2: Something Oh, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead,

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Speaker 5: I should feel the way aboutase.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, No, I mean, listen, I don't make the rules.

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Speaker 6: Uh hey, you do, simply here the rules. Listen some

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Speaker 6: of this stuff. I mean again, I understand black was

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Speaker 6: And so these conversations come up and stuff like that,

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Speaker 6: but I just there's something about it being in the

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Speaker 6: And again, even if it is how football works and stuff,

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Speaker 2: Don't like it.

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Speaker 6: Because even though we don't think it's it's not a

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Speaker 2: I believe Jerry's said that there could end up being.

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Speaker 6: Twelve twelve twelve interviews from this staff. It's because it's

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Speaker 6: not even I mean, Adam Dirtey has done a great job.

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Speaker 6: I think that obviously, Joe Whitten, those guys Al Harris,

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Speaker 2: Stuff, and I guess I have to look into it.

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Speaker 6: But it's just something about the fact that like, yeah,

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Speaker 6: I understand you're trying to get better.

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Speaker 2: This team got stuff to do right now.

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Speaker 6: Facts, yeah, this bebe We need to find a way

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Speaker 6: for this to wait, because I just don't and I

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Speaker 6: mean again, maybe it is just a part of the

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Speaker 2: I personally don't like it.

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Speaker 6: Again, and it's not to say that these coaches can't

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Speaker 6: stay focused and everything. I understand it's the business, but

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Speaker 6: it really is getting on my nerves having to talk

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Speaker 5: I mean, if it makes you feel better, it wouldn't

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Speaker 5: be a discussion if the Cowboys were not playing well.

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Speaker 6: And it does make me, I mean again, like yeah,

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Speaker 6: what this coaching staff has done and the team that

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Speaker 6: they put together. To your point, it is a testament

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Speaker 6: of the fact that people look at and even when

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Speaker 2: It is.

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Speaker 6: It is a testament to these gentlemen and what they

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and even Jerry even said, I'm sorry, my bad, Jerry.

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Speaker 4: Even Jerry even said, yeah, my bad.

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Speaker 2: I have to look that up. Jerry had even said that.

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Speaker 4: He was asked, you know, are you discouraged at all

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Speaker 4: about the multiple calls that you've been getting in the

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Speaker 4: request you've been getting about your coaching staff, And he

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Speaker 4: was like, no, that just says that we're.

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Speaker 2: Doing something right. Yeah. Yeah, they have a lot of

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Speaker 4: And like you mentioned, I will both of y'all mention

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Speaker 4: that if the Cowboys weren't having a successful season, do

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Speaker 7: Nope?

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Speaker 5: Okay, I guarantee you nobody's calling Washington for anything, right, No,

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Speaker 5: guarantee you that they're the ones making all the calls. Apparently,

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Speaker 5: I hope not. I'm sorry. I was writing Nicole notes

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Speaker 5: speedwrite horrible handwriting. Something he also talked about that I

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Speaker 5: wanted to mention on here is Mike. Mike McCarthy's job security.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 5: He talked about that after the Washington game and it

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Speaker 5: and the media took that line specifically, didn't hear anything

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Speaker 5: So Jerry was asked about that specific line today on

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Speaker 5: the fan and he basically said, I don't know how

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Speaker 5: any more clear. And he just said he's really happy

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Speaker 5: up until this point, this coaching staff, that he's put together,

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Speaker 5: the offensive turnaround three what is it three sixty or

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Speaker 5: is it one ady, y'all got mad at me about

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Speaker 5: three sixties all the Yeah, the one eighty he's done

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Speaker 5: the divisional round, wanting to go back to the NFC

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Speaker 5: Championship game. I get that you're in a thirty year

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Speaker 5: of that too.

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Speaker 4: If we're venting today, I know that we're that's something

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Speaker 4: do y'all think that there's a chance that we could

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Speaker 4: possibly lose DQ?

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Speaker 6: And I think there's far more of a chance with

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 6: So I do think that it has more that's more

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Speaker 2: Up for these these jobs.

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Speaker 6: I just think the number of head coaching jobs that

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Speaker 6: At some point in time, and maybe it's not this year,

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Speaker 6: be like, you know what, and I mean and again, like,

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Speaker 6: even though I was fussing about the interviews, this is

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Speaker 6: to go, get to go get those interviews and to

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Speaker 6: get that experience. But then also too, I mean again

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Speaker 6: like it says something about them and their work ethic,

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Speaker 6: and that's what they work towards, is to get those

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Speaker 6: calls and to get to get better.

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Speaker 2: But they do both.

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Speaker 6: Seem comfortable in what's going on here, and I mean

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Speaker 6: it will be an adjustment, but not right now because

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Speaker 4: Albert Breer from NBC Sports Boston actually said that DQ

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Speaker 4: is planning on taking interviews with the Commander's Panthers and Chargers.

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Speaker 2: At the end of next week. That's what he reported.

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Speaker 5: That's cool. Yeah, well, and here's my thing tonight. Sorry,

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Speaker 5: I don't know if you'll notice, I'm kind of battling

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Speaker 5: this ongoing cough and I had some tweets yesterday like

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Speaker 5: you good sis, I'm good battling through it, but sorry

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Speaker 5: for being annoying, coughing and y'all's ears. What I wanted

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Speaker 5: to say is it's real, It's it's hard out here.

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Speaker 5: What I wanted to say was I'd be interested to

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Speaker 5: see how possibly the mindset changes depending on how far

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Speaker 5: the Cowboys go in the playoffs, because you can't tell

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Speaker 5: me that it doesn't make it a little bit more

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Speaker 5: difficult to leave this team if you're pushing thresholds that

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Speaker 5: interested to kind of see that. And look, if you're

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Speaker 5: dan Quinn, why wouldn't you entertain interviews. Why wouldn't you

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Speaker 5: entertain an opportunity for growth? Anybody would. But I'm interested

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Speaker 6: Yeah, sure he's talked to them about it. I'm sure

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Speaker 6: It ties into the listening to Dan Quinn yesterday we

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Speaker 6: I was listening to yesterday and I was just like, Okay,

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Speaker 4: Well, the Cowboys are here to win. They better be

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Speaker 2: Ooh god slipping?

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Speaker 2: He will step up in the pocket and make a

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Speaker 2: I'm excited say that about it. I have any opposing quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Put no pressure. I said, baby, y'all gonna run single

440
00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:17,639
Speaker 2: hot the whole game. You ain't gonna show up, you

441
00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:19,280
Speaker 2: ain't gonna change, no looks, nothing.

442
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Speaker 6: So I mean, anyway, Yeah, one thing that stands out

443
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Speaker 6: to me is that very similar to the Cowboys at

444
00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:27,680
Speaker 6: the beginning of the season. You remember they were moving

445
00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,280
Speaker 6: the ball really well in between the twenties, moving up

446
00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,760
Speaker 6: and down the field. But there was a cap on

447
00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:36,600
Speaker 6: that red zone, and so they still have some of that.

448
00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,920
Speaker 2: Too, where they still I don't know where they ring score.

449
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Speaker 6: I think they score twenty two points a game, which

450
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Speaker 6: when you look at how.

451
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Speaker 2: Many tds he has and stuff. You say to yourself,

452
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Speaker 2: like how they do that. They struggle a little bit

453
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Speaker 2: in the red zone, which.

454
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Speaker 6: Is expected with the rookie quarterback because he's still it's

455
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:57,840
Speaker 6: condensed down there and stuff. So I think the Cowboys

456
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Speaker 6: will have some opportunities there. Like I said, we'll get

457
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Speaker 6: into them.

458
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Speaker 2: But from the quarterback, yeah, he's fun. He throws well

459
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 2: in a move.

460
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Speaker 6: If you're gonna pressure him, you better finish because he's

461
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:08,680
Speaker 6: gonna stand up and he's gonna stand in the pocket

462
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Speaker 6: and make place.

463
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Speaker 5: You know, what really stood out to me is their

464
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Speaker 5: efficiency on third and ten plus. Here's the thing, they'll

465
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 5: make it. The Packers had a third down conversion rate

466
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Speaker 5: of thirty three point three percent on third and ten

467
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,480
Speaker 5: plus in the last four weeks of the regular season,

468
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Speaker 5: fourth best in the NFL. Cowboys defense allowed a third

469
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Speaker 5: down conversion rate of forty four point four percent on

470
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Speaker 5: third and ten plus in the last four weeks, second

471
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Speaker 5: worst in the NFL. So this is a game where

472
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Speaker 5: you know, we usually talk about keeping everybody behind the sticks,

473
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Speaker 5: and it's a game of inches, and you have to

474
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Speaker 5: do that on first and second down. You cannot even

475
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Speaker 5: count that in that third down situation that he's not

476
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,400
Speaker 5: gonna make a play. He is fearless, and that's where

477
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,160
Speaker 5: it comes into play, is third and ten. He's not afraid.

478
00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,880
Speaker 5: He's still gonna sling that ball. But what I did

479
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,159
Speaker 5: notice when I was watching some stuff and taking some

480
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:06,119
Speaker 5: notes getting all the stats together, is he loves to

481
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 5: throw down the middle of the field. Your safeties are

482
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 5: really going to have to have a game, which makes

483
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Speaker 5: you really hopeful considering what you've seen in the last

484
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Speaker 5: two weeks, the re emergence of guys like Jordan Lewis,

485
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Speaker 5: Donovan Wilson. I'm really glad, and Jeron Hurst talked about

486
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,919
Speaker 5: this earlier this week. He said they're hitting strides at

487
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 5: the right time and that's coming in play. Fourth best

488
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 5: of the NFL for throwing up the middle of the season,

489
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:36,639
Speaker 5: Cowboys have allowed ten point one yards per drop back

490
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 5: when defending passes up the middle of the season. So

491
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Speaker 5: this offense is going to test this Cowboys defense. It's

492
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Speaker 5: not going to be an easy feat. Where I do

493
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:48,159
Speaker 5: see this whole conversation of them being a young offense,

494
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Speaker 5: the young team overall. This is the youngest team heading

495
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Speaker 5: into the place the playoffs. Hello, I almost said postseason

496
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 5: and playoffs. Yeah, I just got excited. Is there's opportunity

497
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Speaker 5: when you have guys like Tank Lauren who knows how

498
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:05,879
Speaker 5: to kind of pray on younger opponents that he knows

499
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Speaker 5: how to be patient with it. And I think your

500
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:10,920
Speaker 5: veteran presence on the other side of the ball here

501
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 5: on this Cowboys defense, Jonathan Hankins, is going to come

502
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 5: in handy in this game because they know, if anything,

503
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 5: you even see little things, how to get penalties on

504
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 5: the other side, take advantage of that youth and that inexperience,

505
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 5: or you let it burn you and they're rejuvenated and

506
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 5: they get their hype going and you fall behind. But yeah,

507
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 5: this Green Bay offense definitely poses threats to this Cowboys defense. Overall,

508
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 5: It's not going to be an easy game whatsoever.

509
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 4: My bad, I don't even put you off. What concerns

510
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 4: me kind of is the fact that this is an

511
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Speaker 4: offense that can run the football effectively with Aaron Jones

512
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Speaker 4: and make the deep ball and I cannot pronounce his name,

513
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 4: Dontavious Wicks. Is that it Wicks that's one of their

514
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 4: lead receivers, and I think for him he's fast, kind

515
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Speaker 4: of took notes on how he runs routes.

516
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Speaker 9: He can create separation.

517
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Speaker 2: Big two.

518
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Speaker 4: He's been tall, six foot one two oh six. But

519
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 4: one thing that I do notice is that if they

520
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 4: use him in pass pro, he's not really good with that.

521
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Speaker 2: I'm so glad that she brought that up, because that

522
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 2: literally was where I was going with that.

523
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Speaker 4: He's not good at all in pass pro and that's

524
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Speaker 4: like the complete opposite of the way that we use

525
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 4: our receivers like CDEs Cooks every now and then. I

526
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 4: noticed that, So that could be somewhere where we could

527
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Speaker 4: take advantage of. But he's a guy that they're gonna

528
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Speaker 4: go to for big.

529
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Speaker 2: Plays for sure. I know when he was in college.

530
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Speaker 4: His junior year, I believe he had nearly twenty plus

531
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Speaker 4: yards on half of his receptions in twenty twenty one.

532
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Speaker 4: So that's a big concern for me. But Aaron Jones

533
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Speaker 4: also they use him as a receiver.

534
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Speaker 5: Yep.

535
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Speaker 4: It's also coming out of the backfield, so I don't know.

536
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 4: And the way that they disguise their looks, it concerns me.

537
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:03,400
Speaker 2: They do a lot.

538
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Speaker 6: They do a no And when you mentioned Aaron Jones,

539
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 6: so I did some digging because I was trying to.

540
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 6: When I was watching them, I was like, well.

541
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Speaker 2: Where is aj Dillon.

542
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 6: He's dealing with a thumb and a neck injury. I

543
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 6: think they did activate his practice window whatever, so I

544
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 6: think he's still going to be kind of slow to

545
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 6: come back because he's dealing with some stuff. So I've

546
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 6: been looking at how they're manufacturing the run game, and

547
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:37,159
Speaker 6: what they're doing is that they're using their wide receivers

548
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 6: in the run game. They're they're using their wide receivers.

549
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 2: In the run game. They're using them in motion. They're

550
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:43,160
Speaker 2: using it for jet sweeps.

551
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 6: They bring them, yes, they bring them behind the formation.

552
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Speaker 6: They do some like fake reverses and stuff like that.

553
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 6: I called Number eighteen.

554
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Speaker 2: I don't remember what his name is. I wrote it down.

555
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:57,360
Speaker 2: I called him the motion man.

556
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Speaker 6: Because that's that's what they're doing. Because Aaron Jones can't

557
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:03,400
Speaker 6: do it all by hisself.

558
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, he just can't.

559
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Speaker 6: And the reason why he's always done some things in

560
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,119
Speaker 6: the in the passing game. But they're doing it even

561
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 6: more now to your point, to throw people off kilter.

562
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 6: And so also they're setting up big plays by having

563
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 6: him kind of slip out to the flat and then

564
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 6: act like Okay, he's catching the ball and stuff.

565
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Speaker 2: So I am, yeah, there's a lot of people who

566
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 2: are to look at huge calves. That's how I remember him.

567
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 2: What that's literally like his claim the fame.

568
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Speaker 5: Anyway, it's so funny. That's like the second time I've

569
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 5: heard that this week. But like on another podcast I

570
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 5: do for for work, my co host was like, his

571
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Speaker 5: calves are the size of my torso, so I googled it.

572
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Speaker 6: I was like, yeah, he does have some nice but

573
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 6: uh but yes, okay, so sorry, but but yeah number

574
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Speaker 6: eighteen for them Malie Keith.

575
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Speaker 2: They use him.

576
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Speaker 6: They bringing him around the formation with this orbit motion.

577
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 6: They're setting up like they're setting up lot with their emotion.

578
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 6: But they're also too they be doing these these players

579
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 6: we take forever.

580
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 2: You don't got a lot of time with the Cowboys boss,

581
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 2: especially if they're reading it.

582
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Speaker 6: So I wonder if they do go more quick game,

583
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 6: whatever the case may be. So for me, I to

584
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 6: your point about Aaron Jones. Cowboys fans have a huge

585
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 6: fear of Aaron Jones just because of what.

586
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 2: He has done to them in the past. You wasn't here,

587
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 2: he was here.

588
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 5: We experienced and remember it.

589
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 6: Was Aaron Jones cannot be like have in the year

590
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 6: last year when they played well, he was having a

591
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 6: pretty good.

592
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 2: Year to his standard.

593
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 6: This year, I don't know how he feels. He's dealt

594
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 6: with some injuries. He's like that, he's a little banged up.

595
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 6: I don't see the same explosiveness. But they will attack

596
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 6: the edges. He will cut backside and take it to

597
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 6: the house. He still has that ability. But I will say,

598
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 6: looking at this offensive line too, I was more.

599
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 2: Impressed by their offensive line than what I thought I

600
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 2: was gonna be.

601
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Speaker 6: But baby, these tackles are catchy. And what I mean

602
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 6: by that is they're waiting for the contact to come to.

603
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 2: Them, and they're not being the aggressors. Baby. I see

604
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 2: ned left tackle of Rashid Walker.

605
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Speaker 6: I've seen him get walked into his walked into his

606
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 6: s What I'm talking about is that their tackles. I

607
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 6: think there should be some opportunity there for the Cowboys

608
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 6: to take advantage of their tackles and also to their

609
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 6: center Josh Myers.

610
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Speaker 2: He's given up twenty eight pressures.

611
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:27,719
Speaker 6: Twenty hurries, five sacks, and six QB hits this season.

612
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 5: Something that I did notice about the Packers as well.

613
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 5: Is you know how we always talk about on the

614
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Speaker 5: Cowboys offensive side, hey, quit running the ball on first down.

615
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 5: That's what they love to do. They will Something the

616
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 5: Packers will do is they will run the ball on

617
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Speaker 5: first down. So you have an opportunity early on to

618
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 5: shut down the run because they're gonna do it. They're

619
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Speaker 5: gonna test you on first down. Aaron Jones will absolutely

620
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Speaker 5: do that. In fact, let me see I wrote this down.

621
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Speaker 5: He ranked first in the NFL as he averaged six

622
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 5: point four yards per carry on first down in the

623
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Speaker 5: last four weeks of the regular season. What that tells

624
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 5: me is on we talk about hitting strides at the

625
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 5: right time, Aaron is coming back from injury. He's hitting

626
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 5: his stride at the right time. Unfortunately for the Cowboys

627
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 5: run defense, Cowboys allowed five point five yards per carry

628
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 5: on first down in the last four weeks of the

629
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Speaker 5: regular season, third worst in the NFL. However, I think

630
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Speaker 5: that's more measured by what you saw with the Dolphins

631
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 5: and Buffalo, not so much the final two games that

632
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 5: they played. So run defense going to be tested, and

633
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 5: that's when it starts up front in the trenches. Jonathan

634
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 5: Hankins luckily on.

635
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 2: The up and up, and it's going to be vital.

636
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 5: His presence is going to be vital in this game.

637
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 5: I'm not Uncle Hank, I.

638
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 2: Willun He'd be like I should, I'm thirty one. I'm like, yeah,

639
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 2: I forgot where close it doesn't matter.

640
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 6: But but no, I also will say that this Green

641
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 6: Bay Packers team, they have had instances.

642
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 2: Where they have they'll go score.

643
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 6: Cowboys just got a score because when you scoring, it

644
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 6: takes all this running and taking your time. It takes

645
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,719
Speaker 6: that ability out of your opponent's of playbook because they're

646
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 6: playing catch up. So it is gonna be important for

647
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 6: the Cowboys defense, well offense, rather to score.

648
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 2: And I know we're getting tells well.

649
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 6: But no, I just you have to challenge this offense.

650
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 6: You have to challenge them. And what I mean by

651
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 6: that is when you talk about the safeties, he's good

652
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 6: at attack in the middle of the field, showing some

653
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 6: he ain't seen, disguises, things of that nature. May be

654
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 6: showing and going some blitzing, whatever.

655
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 2: The case may be.

656
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 6: You know, because if you're gonna play again, if you're

657
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 6: gonna play straight up, single high, straight up zone with them,

658
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 6: they're gonna find ways to be there. Matt Lafleur and

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Speaker 6: those guys do a good job over there. Linebackers in

660
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 6: this defensive line are really gonna have to trust their

661
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Speaker 6: film study, which I know Tank will you know that,

662
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Speaker 6: but also to not be fooled by the secondary motion.

663
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 6: They do a lot of stuff behind the line of

664
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Speaker 6: scrimmage using their tight ends, their running backs, their wide receivers.

665
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 6: They are begging for you to look the other way.

666
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 6: It creates spacing, It creates a lot of wide open lanes,

667
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 6: and honestly, like we talk about like their tight ends too,

668
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 6: like they're tight ends.

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Speaker 2: Really they're dealing with some injuries, yeah, but they are.

670
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Speaker 6: Extra blockers for all intent purposes. Like they aren't doing

671
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 6: a whole bunch of catching. They're trying to help out

672
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 6: these tackles and help out in the running game a lot.

673
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Speaker 2: So it's gonna have to be all hands on deck.

674
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Speaker 6: I'm really curious to see I have to give I'm

675
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Speaker 6: gonna get more into the film this week and stuff.

676
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Speaker 6: But off rip, I think there's some favorable matchups there.

677
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 2: And what did you mention? You mentioned something about the Cowboys.

678
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 5: Being bad on what third on first down? Runs on

679
00:33:59,080 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 5: first time runs.

680
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Speaker 2: But then it was no, it was a third down defense,

681
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Speaker 2: third and ten.

682
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Speaker 5: Let's see, yeah, third.

683
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Speaker 6: That has been frustrated team maybe for the last two

684
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Speaker 6: weeks where they will get a team behind the sticks

685
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Speaker 6: and it's like a third.

686
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Speaker 2: It was a third and twelve this game and they mistaken, Yeah,

687
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 2: and the team converted. You can't have that. You can't

688
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:23,359
Speaker 2: have that with this team. Yeah, you can't have that

689
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Speaker 2: with this team.

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Speaker 4: And you saw Aaron Jones do a lot of that

691
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Speaker 4: against Chicago last week. Yeah, they'd be like in third

692
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Speaker 4: and long situations and you know a big play. Yeah, Yeah,

693
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Speaker 4: something that definitely watch out for. But we're gonna take

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Speaker 4: Back to this Cowboys defense Green Bay Packers offense. We're

732
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Speaker 4: kind of talking off to set off the show a

733
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Speaker 4: little about Jaden Reid.

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Speaker 2: What does he kind of do that it's a little dangerous.

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Speaker 2: I like him.

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Speaker 6: I remember him from the draft and immediately seeing him

737
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 6: and being impressed with his speed and how he marries

738
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 6: his speed to his route running, which because there's a

739
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 6: lot of guys who are fast, but they're not football fast,

740
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 6: or they're not en route like running a route and

741
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 6: they're still fast.

742
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 2: Brandon Cooks has that ability to where his speed is

743
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Speaker 2: on display.

744
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 6: He's not just because some guys are like they're just burners, right,

745
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 6: they can run past you, but to be able to

746
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:38,359
Speaker 6: incorporate it into your game. And so I think they're

747
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 6: finding I wrote down, they're finding unique ways to use

748
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 6: his speed, and they use him. They get him running

749
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 6: starts like you're talking about coming from motion and they

750
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 6: call it push motion rather basically where it's just this

751
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 6: guy's coming behind the formation and he's basically able to

752
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:56,399
Speaker 6: he has a run and start, so he.

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00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,399
Speaker 2: Can go past your.

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00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 6: Secondary or he can go past your linebackers or whoever.

755
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Speaker 6: So to just this point earlier, when we're talking about

756
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 6: the safeties, they really put a lot of stress on you.

757
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 6: His speed and the angles he takes and some of

758
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 6: the things they do out of the backfield puts a

759
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 6: lot of stress on your safeties to take good angles

760
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:18,359
Speaker 6: and to tackle well, like it really does because they

761
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 6: put you off. They understand leverage well, I think it's

762
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 6: an offense. And so for me with him, it's just

763
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 6: they're doing things to get him open and for his

764
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Speaker 6: speed to prevail. And when he's open, dog, he's open, y'all,

765
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Speaker 6: like he's like. And again I do also think it's

766
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Speaker 6: because of how defenses are electing to play them like

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Speaker 6: have mercy.

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Speaker 2: Why are y'all all just.

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Speaker 6: They are tearing this covered one up, just killing it

770
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Speaker 6: this single high up. So for me, I just I

771
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 6: like the things that they're doing bringing their guys behind

772
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Speaker 6: the formation and being able to get them in good

773
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,320
Speaker 6: spacing for him to be able for Jordan to be

774
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 6: able to deliver the ball to him and be confident.

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00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 2: Because he will type throw on some tight windows.

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Speaker 6: He's not having too with Jayden because he typically has

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Speaker 6: a step on people.

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Speaker 5: And also you talked about their struggles in the red

779
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 5: zone and struggle scoring. Well, guess who is seventh in

780
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Speaker 5: the league for receiving touchdowns.

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00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 2: Jane Reid is impressed with that part.

782
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 5: Eight receiving touchdowns, two rushing touchdowns. So if you want

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Speaker 5: to keep an eye on anybody in the red zone

784
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 5: when they do march downfield, because not a problem of

785
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 5: them marching downfield. They're extending drives. The Packers offense is

786
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 5: getting downfield. It's just scoring that seems to be the

787
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 5: issue there too. But that's your guy to keep an

788
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Speaker 5: eye on, because guess what, look at this. He's only

789
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:40,280
Speaker 5: had three drops all season. Three drops, I mean three,

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00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 5: that's the guys. That's one hand three.

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Speaker 4: So how should you, if you're dq, how should you

792
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 4: plan to defend this passing attack? I mean, really, they

793
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 4: do it all, I mean, so how do you plan

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Speaker 4: to defend them?

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Speaker 6: Honestly, I call me crazy. Caboys run cowboy run.

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Speaker 2: A lot of they run a lot of men.

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Speaker 6: But the last few weeks and stuff, they've changed up

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Speaker 6: some looks, they've done some zone, they've they've shown that

799
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Speaker 6: they're gonna run, man, but then it goes on like

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Speaker 6: they've done.

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Speaker 2: Some different things.

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Speaker 6: I think you definitely, when you're playing a young quarterback,

803
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Speaker 6: you gotta do things to switch up looks and things

804
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 6: like that. But also too similar to Miami, in my opinion,

805
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Speaker 6: you ain't getting no free releases big dog.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 6: Like it is, it's gonna be harder to defend because

808
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,879
Speaker 6: again they're bringing him out the backfield and they're doing

809
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 6: all this stuff. So I think also you just got

810
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Speaker 6: to get a hat on him. You just got to

811
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Speaker 6: get hands on on some of these guys. Now, the

812
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 6: rest of the gentlemen on the team, I think that

813
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 6: they still have some other players.

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Speaker 2: But he's the he's the money maker.

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Speaker 6: He's the guy that Jordan is looking for in scrambled

816
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 6: drill as well when he's scrambling and.

817
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 2: Looking for stuff. So for me, I think you just

818
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:51,760
Speaker 2: gotta get hands on these guys.

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Speaker 5: Also, the past deflections forced fumbles that are gonna be

820
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 5: really key in this game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a yack team too.

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Speaker 5: To your point.

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Speaker 2: It is ya team.

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Speaker 7: It's the thing is is, don't get me started this

825
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 7: whole tackling conversation. Okay, well they have been okay, but

826
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Speaker 7: the problem is is when you're talking explosive plays, it's

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00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 7: not just tackling that has been the issue. It's you know,

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00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:19,919
Speaker 7: the misdirection that they kind of fall for sometimes. I've

829
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 7: noticed tackling has been fine.

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Speaker 5: But they have to continue to do it well against

831
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 5: a good team. And yes, you saw them tackle well

832
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 5: against the Lions, you saw them tackle well against Miami.

833
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 5: But but you have to eliminate explosive play opportunity for

834
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:41,280
Speaker 5: this team. They will get you on long yardage situation.

835
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 5: So keeping them behind the sticks is not enough in

836
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 5: a game like this. Yeah, and usually it is. Usually

837
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 5: it's enough in a game to say, hey, just keep

838
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 5: them behind the sticks, keep them at third and long.

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00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 5: It starts in first and second down. This is not

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00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 5: the game for that. This is the game where it's

841
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 5: going to test your ability to allow explosive plays, which

842
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 5: the Cowboys have struggled.

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00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 2: With off and on throughout the season. Screen game to

844
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 2: which room will be tested the most? I think in

845
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 2: this game.

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00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, in this game, safety corner back too. It's a

847
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 5: level It depends on Stefan Gilmore's health, I think too.

848
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 5: I think if he's available or not, that kind of

849
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 5: switches things around. Dan did talk about that yesterday, saying,

850
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 5: you know, we kind of are always ready for situations

851
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 5: like this because it's the nature of the game. But

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00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 5: I think if Gilly's not out there, it's it changes

853
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 5: some things around a lot. But overall, for me, it's

854
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 5: what I want to see is I want to see

855
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:35,839
Speaker 5: it start up front. I don't even want to see

856
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:37,320
Speaker 5: it get to the secondary level.

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00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 6: Which they which Again there's some favorable matchups across this

858
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 6: offensive line and what they do. But and again, like

859
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 6: I said, they also to the left guard is having

860
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 6: to help out the left tackle. The titands are having

861
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 6: to help out the offensive line, so it takes away

862
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 6: from them and I think they are going to have to.

863
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 2: They don't have to chip. Yeah, And that's that's the

864
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 2: thing too. Like we're talking about, we're talking about them.

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Speaker 6: And how good they are and stuff, they have to

866
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 6: account for the Cowboys defensive line and those guys too.

867
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:05,760
Speaker 2: And they are They're gonna have their.

868
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,800
Speaker 6: Hands full as well with dealing with the Cowboys pressure

869
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 6: and also to having to chip when those tight ends

870
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 6: are taken away as passing options.

871
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 2: You best believe your wide receivers better be able to

872
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 2: win one on one.

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00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, and so they are are the Cowboys secondary. Cowboys

874
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 6: defense is probably the best defense they've seen in this four.

875
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 2: Week run and stuff.

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Speaker 6: So well, we're talking about them being a good team

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Speaker 6: and them having things they can do, you also have

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Speaker 6: to look at the other side because, baby, if they

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Speaker 6: can't block it up, it's gonna be a long day.

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Speaker 6: And as far as you mentioned something really key about

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Speaker 6: the misdirection and stuff, Jes they run their screen game heavy.

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Speaker 2: So their screen game.

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Speaker 6: The Cowboys have had some trouble with the screen game.

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Speaker 6: You saw it last minute in Miami. You saw, you've

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Speaker 6: seen it. They're gonna have to trust their eyes. They're

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Speaker 6: gonna have to rally and tackle. I would love to

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Speaker 6: see some of those safeties, Donovan Wilson, those guys. Jordan

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Speaker 6: Lewis has been involved in the backfield, making some tackles

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Speaker 6: in and doing some things behind the line of scrimmage

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Speaker 6: as well.

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Speaker 4: All right, well, now we're gonna switch gears tomorrow, talking

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Speaker 4: Cowboys offense versus packer's defense. But that's a wrap for

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