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Is that Norman in Queen's County, New York? Norman, 20 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:02,959 Speaker 2: Welcome to the car doctor shore. 21 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 3: Ah, thanksful lot Ron. Everyone got a good I got 22 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 3: a perplexing problem that everyone should have. Okay, I've been 23 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 3: listening to you since nineteen ninety one. Oh, you're making 24 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 3: me coming off You helped me out with my BMW 25 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 3: a short time ago when you diagnosed it because specifically 26 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 3: at the fob wasn't working and we got to fixed up. 27 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 3: Now my car is coming off lease, Ron, and to 28 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 3: buy the car, and you can buy it back at 29 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 3: twenty seven thousand dollars two thousand and two BMW X. 30 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 2: Five X three twenty two. 31 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 3: Twenty twenty two, twenty two. Now the question comes in 32 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 3: the repay when you come off lease and you have 33 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 3: to have the car fixed. It is just crazy on 34 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 3: prices for anything you want done. And at what point 35 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 3: do you tell yourself you know something? It was I'm 36 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 3: seventy three years old. It was a good experiment. My 37 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 3: wife and I love the car. Now let's just go 38 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 3: back to a Toyota rout four that we always like, 39 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 3: and we can buy a brand new Route four, or 40 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 3: we can take our chances purchase the car which has 41 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 3: sixteen thousand miles on it. We don't do that much 42 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 3: traveling and then you have to put up with the repairs. 43 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 3: But when you look at the prices, but it costs 44 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 3: is thousands of dollars or something that is just like 45 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 3: out of we can't afford that. I mean put it 46 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 3: that way, and if you buy a maintenance contract on it, 47 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 3: you might as well just release the car or drop 48 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 3: it and buy a regular car. 49 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 2: So what do you do? You know, cars, cars have 50 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 2: become a lifestyle Norman, And I don't know where this occurred. 51 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 2: I think in the last twenty years. It was a 52 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:56,519 Speaker 2: slow process. But as you and everyone else is finding out, 53 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 2: it's you lease the car and they cover the cost 54 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:01,959 Speaker 2: of repair, They cover everything. Right, you had a great 55 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 2: three two or two or three year lease whatever the 56 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 2: term was, and it was a great Yeah it was 57 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 2: that was your lifestyle. And now it's time, you know, well, okay, 58 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 2: we've got to get another car, and is it going 59 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 2: to be a BMW again? Needless to say, I would 60 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 2: venture to guess that to release that BMW is a 61 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 2: very different deal now than it was three years ago, 62 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 2: or the numbers the same, much more, much. 63 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 3: More, because it's surprised and the problem, not the problem 64 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 3: is that nothing's gone wrong with the car. Right, So, 65 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 3: as you always say, always maintenance, maintenance, maintenance, any new car, 66 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 3: any car. After three years, you got to think about breaks, 67 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 3: You got to think about fluid changes, You got to 68 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 3: think about transmission. Right, You're thinking about things have to 69 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 3: be taken care of. Right, I now it's clothing thousands 70 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 3: of dollars to do that. 71 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 2: I think you are on the right beam, my friend. 72 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 2: I think the idea that you know what you had, 73 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 2: the social experiment, you had, the lifestyle. It's a nice car. Look, 74 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 2: nothing wrong with the Toyota, nothing wrong with a RAF four. Right, 75 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 2: it's it's not a terrible par. 76 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 3: That way into the next thing. Because you always help 77 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 3: me out with my two thousand and five Row four? 78 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 3: Do I go for the hybrid? Like I always heard 79 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 3: you talk about the Preus being the best hybrid they have. 80 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 3: But if we want the Row four, do we stick 81 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:23,559 Speaker 3: with a RAV four hybrid or the regular RAV four 82 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 3: for a car that's going to last? 83 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 2: Okay? 84 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 3: In other words, which one has the best repair history? 85 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 3: And your your say? 86 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 4: So? 87 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 2: I think they both have a good track record, Norman. 88 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 2: I think both vehicles have the potential to go the distance. 89 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 2: I think it's it's what what are you more comfortable 90 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 2: and what do you enjoy driving? And I think you've 91 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 2: got to go drive both vehicles. Look, you're coming out 92 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 2: of a rocket ship, all right, and you're not exactly 93 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 2: going to a biplane, but you're you know, you're going 94 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 2: to a smaller rocket ship. So you know, how much 95 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 2: more technology do you want or can you give up? 96 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 2: You know, there's a whole again. We're back to the 97 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 2: lifestyle comment. All right, this is going to be a 98 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,799 Speaker 2: very different experience for you in the sense of although 99 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 2: you said you had a Toyota before, so I don't 100 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 2: think it's going to be totally different. But you know, listen, 101 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 2: you want to enjoy driving, right, you're seventy two, you 102 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 2: said seventy two, seventy. 103 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 3: Three, seventy three, So it's going to be my last. 104 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 2: I know it's your last car. I know everybody gets 105 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 2: like that. I'm creeping up on you, and I don't 106 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 2: think I'm ever going to say this is my last car. 107 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 2: You know, the day before I go, I'm going to 108 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 2: be out looking at cars. But that's just me. I 109 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 2: think you've got to find something you like. And listen, 110 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 2: I wouldn't drive just to rav for you know, maybe 111 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 2: you want to go look at Alexis, Maybe you want 112 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 2: to look at something a little high line there, and 113 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 2: you know, the same Toyota quality, the same Toyota mentality, 114 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 2: and see where that gets you. Part of the problem 115 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 2: is right now, a lot of people are coming out 116 00:05:56,360 --> 00:06:00,359 Speaker 2: of what I will call expensive car leases BMW, Audi, 117 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 2: Mercedes and that car that they leased three years ago 118 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 2: and they had to put oh, I'm gonna guess three 119 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 2: thousand dollars down and they've got a least payment of 120 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 2: five point fifty six hundred a month. They're finding out 121 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 2: now all of a sudden, it's it's it's it's double 122 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:18,160 Speaker 2: down and nine hundred, almost one thousand dollars a month 123 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 2: depending upon the money. 124 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, you get you know it, you know it, and. 125 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 2: It's it's crazy, it's it's and what are you getting? 126 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 2: And you're going to see that change as the economy changes, 127 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 2: and it will. It's just it's just a matter of time. 128 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 2: There has to be an evolution here. 129 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 4: You know. 130 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 2: If if dollars are a concern, all right, and I'm 131 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 2: not saying that we want to throw money around, I 132 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 2: don't care, you know, I don't care how much money 133 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 2: you have, you just don't throw money around. You got 134 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 2: to short respect, right. 135 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 3: You want you want to use common sense? Right, car 136 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 3: for transportation? 137 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 4: Right? 138 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 3: You know? My wife and I just you know, just 139 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 3: what are we doing? Very few miles? 140 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 2: Yep? 141 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 3: But good experiment, you know, good experiment. Having it? It felt good, 142 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 3: But now it feels stupid buying a coffee that much Funny, 143 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 3: It's like you'd like to spend money other things in life. 144 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, now do you do? You go out and 145 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 2: lease the raft four which is the second part of 146 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:13,119 Speaker 2: the question that we haven't talked about. 147 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 3: I buy it. 148 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 2: I buy it by do you buy it? Did? Did 149 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 2: you look at the least numbers? 150 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 4: Yeah? 151 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 3: The at least he went for like three hundred and 152 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 3: fifty dollars a month. But you know something, when you 153 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 3: rent something wrong, you're when you lease something, you're renting 154 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 3: you don't own it, right. And I've always liked owning 155 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 3: something to say it's mine, right, And I always followed 156 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 3: your advice. You just do I change the oil every 157 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 3: three thousand miles transmission fluid. It was once a year. 158 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 3: I was going overboard on this and the call ass 159 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 3: and I'd rather just say it's mine. I'm taking good 160 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 3: care of it. But at least I'm saying it's not rented. 161 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 3: And the least I fell into because you get googled 162 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 3: into saying, hey, look I can afford at least right 163 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 3: now because the monthly payments in there. 164 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 5: But you don't own the car. 165 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 2: Yeah did you? Did you drive a rap for yet? 166 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 4: Oh? 167 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: Yeah? 168 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 3: Well you s the own one? 169 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 4: No? 170 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 2: No, have you driven? Have you driven a new one? 171 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 4: No? 172 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 3: No, I just went online and went looking at it 173 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 3: and I see there. My wife likes it. Also, all right, 174 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 3: we have to go down and Yatroy. It's something that 175 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 3: we have to get into. But we use you as 176 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 3: our guru and who to go on new advice. 177 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 2: I appreciate that. 178 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 3: Norm All up Ron, call up Roun, find out what's happening, 179 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 3: because you you gave us. You gave us very When 180 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 3: I was listening to you you first came on the radio, 181 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 3: and I was trying to follow along with you what 182 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 3: you're doing. And I'm not mechanically I have to fix 183 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:47,199 Speaker 3: the car. But I come to stand when you're talking 184 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 3: about and uh, I wish I could go back to 185 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 3: my nineteen seventy a Crown Victoria that was the best 186 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 3: car I ever had in my life. But uh, and 187 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 3: I was a corroborated car. 188 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 2: Well, you know, I was trained. I was trained as 189 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 2: a mechanic, you know. And I know what you're saying. 190 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 2: People say this to me, they like my old school approach, 191 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:09,959 Speaker 2: but I was trained by old school. You know. You've 192 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 2: got to remember my dad was an airline mechanic. My 193 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 2: dad was superintendent maintenance for American airlines during the Second 194 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 2: World War, worked on a lot of military aircraft. He 195 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 2: always taught me, you know, this is the procedure. You 196 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 2: got to follow the procedure. There's steps one through six. 197 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 2: You don't skip the step four. And Billy, my first 198 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 2: boss in the gas station that I still to this 199 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 2: day considered one of the smartest people I ever met. 200 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 2: He had a genius mentality. You know, proper maintenance done properly. 201 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 2: I've said that about Billy, But he just taught me 202 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 2: procedure and process. My dad was gone at that point, 203 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 2: but old school mechanics, you know what, it's still nuts 204 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 2: and bolts. It still takes fluid, it still takes basics 205 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 2: in order to operate properly. And that's what I think. 206 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 2: I think, even with the technology today, so you know, 207 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:54,559 Speaker 2: and it's a lifestyle, right, So you've got to look 208 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 2: at that Toyota, that RAB four real quick and then 209 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 2: I'll let you go that RAB four. You know, the 210 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 2: cost to operate that RAP four is going to be 211 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 2: substantially less than BMW anything. And you know, you've got 212 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 2: to look at that. And chances are that that RAB 213 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 2: four will last you easily ten years, if not longer, 214 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 2: with proper care. And that's a good spot. 215 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 4: To be in. 216 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 2: So that's it's funny. 217 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 3: I believe what you always say. Maintenance all the way, yep, 218 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 3: and take good care of it and it'll go forever. 219 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 3: And I really appreciate the phone call. 220 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:27,959 Speaker 2: You're very welcome, Norman. You have a good rest of 221 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 2: the day. 222 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:31,559 Speaker 3: My best to your wife listening to you all the time. 223 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 2: Thank you, sir. You'd be well, you know, it's it's 224 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 2: part of the process to maintain a car. You've got 225 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 2: to do it right. Maintenance is the key and if 226 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 2: you don't maintain it, you know. And it's a funny thing. 227 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 2: And I do this at the shop and maybe I'm 228 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 2: wrong for doing it, but somebody will come in with 229 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 2: their new car and as we start to work on it, 230 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 2: and the relationship evolves, and you know, we start to 231 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 2: go through things, and you know, they'll start to come 232 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 2: in the fifteen thousand mile service that they're twenty thousand 233 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 2: mile service, and we start to show them pieces and 234 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 2: parts that we've replaced and changed. And I said, you 235 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 2: got to remember, buying a new car has Now we're 236 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 2: enjoy the privilege of throwing it away, one piece at 237 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 2: a time. But it got you there, It kept you safe, 238 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 2: it kept you dry, it brought you to work. It 239 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 2: did what it was supposed to do. And that's the 240 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 2: purpose of an automobile. Cars are a lifestyle. How much 241 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:23,959 Speaker 2: lifestyle can you afford? Ah, that's the secret, and that's 242 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 2: what you have to realize as you approach. It can't 243 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 2: be emotional when you're looking at a car. It's got 244 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 2: to be factual and affordable. And that's the bottom line. 245 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 2: I'm running ady in the car doctor. I'll be back 246 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:33,079 Speaker 2: right after this. 247 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 4: No go away. 248 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 2: And we're back, listeners, run an any in the car 249 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 2: doctor here at your service. Let's let's wander over and 250 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,559 Speaker 2: talk to Don and Virginia. Don, welcome to the car Doctor, sir. 251 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 2: How can I help Hi? 252 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 4: Ron? Thanks you and I talked early in November two 253 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 4: thousand and sixty one. Fifty had gotten the whole plethora 254 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 4: of codes thrown. I had thrown some parts at it. 255 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 4: They all sort of revolved around the Eger system and 256 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 4: that type of thing. I did end up replacing the ECM, 257 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:05,559 Speaker 4: and all of those codes went away for a while. 258 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 4: And then right before we were going on vacation with 259 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 4: a couple of other couples, I started getting a storm 260 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 4: of just despirit codes and so I threw my hands 261 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 4: up and I told my wife. I said, I'm just 262 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 4: going to take it to the dealer, right And she said, 263 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 4: oh my god, We're not going to be able to eat. 264 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 4: I said, well, we'll see. So I took it to 265 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:25,680 Speaker 4: the dealer where I bought it. I took it on 266 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 4: a Sunday night because I knew they weren't going to 267 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 4: be there, and I dropped it off, left the foldly 268 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 4: of what I'd done and all the codes, along with 269 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 4: screenshots from the scan tool, and they opened it seven 270 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 4: thirty on Monday morning. They called me about nine thirty 271 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 4: and I said, we know what the problem is. And 272 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 4: I said really, He said, yeah, we put a mechanic 273 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 4: on there he's been here thirty years, he's worked on 274 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 4: lots of E one fifty chateaus and everything else. You 275 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 4: got a wiring horness problem, and apparently the wiring harness 276 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 4: that wrapped itself around the orifice tube that runs from 277 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 4: the EGR valve down to this sauce and it worked 278 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 4: through had melted inside. Yeah, and so you know, he said, 279 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 4: it's not going to be cheap. He said, it's a 280 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 4: lot of time an hour. So it was about an 281 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 4: eight hundred and fifty dollars repair. But they went in, 282 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 4: traced it out, repaired it because you can't find the 283 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 4: wiring harness, aren't it obviously for that not a problem 284 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 4: since the one on a two thousand mile vacation, no 285 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 4: problem in the mountains, no codes, it's doing fine good. 286 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 4: So I guess the bulk of that is that the 287 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 4: lesson learned is that sometimes when you weigh over your head, 288 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 4: you got to take it somewhere where there's experience and 289 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 4: they've worked on these things for a long time. 290 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 2: Well there's that, and there's also you know, you can't 291 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 2: beat yourself up right, you don't know, all right, you 292 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 2: don't know if where the wiring harness rubbed through if 293 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 2: it's short circuited, because you know, if it's rubbing against 294 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 2: the metal tube, it's ground. Right, you don't know what 295 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 2: part of the horns. You don't know if you damage 296 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 2: the PCM either, all right, you know, I go back 297 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:05,239 Speaker 2: to the day. I'll date myself here, eighty eight Chevrolet 298 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 2: J body cars. I think it was with the two 299 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 2: point eight leter, the flat aluminum top intake manifold set up. 300 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 2: They would actually the ignition coils were mounted on top 301 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 2: of the ignition module, so the coil would spike, it 302 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 2: would overload the module. The module was tied by wiring 303 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 2: back to the PCM, so the coil would take out 304 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 2: the module would take out the PCM. You'd end up 305 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 2: putting three parts in the car to fix it. You know, 306 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 2: everything is interconnected. Heck, we had a couple of GMS 307 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 2: back in the day. I could tell you these stories 308 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 2: with Fords too. Gms are just on my mind today 309 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 2: for some reason that you know, you would have bad alternators, 310 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 2: and a bad GM alternator on certain models would actually 311 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 2: overload the system and damage any of the processors on 312 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 2: the vehicle. So you would put multiple parts. It looked 313 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 2: like you were guessing, but in fact you were just 314 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 2: running down the problem. So you know, would it could 315 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 2: have shoulda Do you still have the old PCM? 316 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 4: I did? 317 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 2: Okay, So guess what now you got to back up? 318 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 4: Right? You know exactly? 319 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 2: You know it's and I would hang on to that 320 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 2: because you know, if you're planning on keeping this, this 321 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 2: was a camper or something, right this or this is. 322 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 4: A well no it had it was a chateau, so 323 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 4: it was factory with captain chairs. It didn't have any 324 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 4: modifications like a rebuilder or something like that, right right, 325 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 4: So right, we've had it. 326 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 2: It's a little fancy. It's not just a regular van, 327 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 2: is my right? 328 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 4: Right? 329 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 2: Yeah? Uh so you know what not a work fan. 330 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 2: Now you got to spare PCM. I wouldn't be ashamed 331 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 2: of exactly. I wouldn't be ashamed of that at all. 332 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 4: So one other quick question. Sure, I've got to change 333 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 4: the plugs on this. It's got the plugs have about 334 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 4: one hundred and twenty thousand on it. And as part 335 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 4: of all this stuff, before I went in and changed 336 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 4: the number five because that was showing misfires, the plug 337 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 4: was not in great shape. So my question is this 338 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 4: and looking through through Mitchell's and other other places. The 339 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 4: response is you probably want to take the fuel rail 340 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 4: loose from the brackets in order to be able to 341 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 4: get the tools down in to do the to get 342 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 4: the plugs out, because the fuel rails sit right on 343 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 4: top of the coal the cool on plugs. Right. Is 344 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 4: there anything I should be afraid of? Is this? Is this? 345 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 2: Is this a four to six or a five four? 346 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 2: I don't remember five four five four four? 347 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 4: No, I two two valve for a cylinder, so I 348 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 4: don't have to worry about the plugs being stuck, right. 349 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 2: No, I think you're going to find that. I think 350 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 2: you're gonna find you're going to loosen the rail and 351 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 2: just kind of ease it out of the way. 352 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 3: Uh. 353 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 2: You know, do you have Do you have a heated 354 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 2: garage so it's warm? I do, okay, So you know 355 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 2: I would park it in there overnight, get it good 356 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 2: and warm, and just take your time. I would. I 357 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 2: would drop a little P B blaster down the hall 358 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 2: and you know, just on the just on the chance 359 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 2: that the plugs are stuck, and just kind of work 360 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 2: their way carefully. And as long as you're doing plugs 361 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 2: at this age in mileage, you probably ought to shared 362 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 2: the coil. Yeah, change the coils. You know I would, 363 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:05,680 Speaker 2: And you know, if we're going to do this, let's 364 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 2: do it once. Let's get motocraft stuff, you know, let's 365 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 2: let's let's just let's just be done with it. You know, 366 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 2: we don't want to go through this twice. 367 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 4: And obviously just the issue is you have to you know, 368 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:17,679 Speaker 4: you change the four front ones from the front of 369 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 4: the car, and then you have to take the doghouse 370 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 4: all right and change the four rearuins on your back 371 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:24,360 Speaker 4: right reaching out through. 372 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 2: So yeah, okay, yeah, So listen, it might be easier 373 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:30,919 Speaker 2: depending upon how the chairs are constructed and put in there, 374 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:32,400 Speaker 2: it might be easier to take the chairs out. 375 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 4: That's a good idea because I've had those out before 376 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 4: to do some photework on them. 377 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 2: So right, okay, so you know that might help you too. 378 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 2: All right, good luck to you. Listen. I'm glad. I'm 379 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 2: glad it worked out for you, all right, and I 380 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 2: appreciate you getting back to us, all right, sir, Thanks Ron, 381 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 2: You're very welcome. You'd be well, I'm running any in 382 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 2: the car. Doctor. We're back right after this. Don't go away. 383 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 2: Welcome back. Listeners running any in the Car Doctor. Let's 384 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:58,199 Speaker 2: let's go on over. Let's go talk to Bill in 385 00:17:58,240 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 2: Sussex County, New Jersey. 386 00:17:59,440 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 4: Bill. 387 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 2: Welcome to the Car Doctor, Sir. How can I help Hi? 388 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 6: Ron, Thanks for taking the call on time listener from WTBQ. 389 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 2: I appreciate it. 390 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:09,880 Speaker 6: Trying to help out my sister who was in Chicago. 391 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 6: She sent me a picture of a tire from her 392 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 6: audi that has some curb rash on it, and basically 393 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 6: there's a chunk or gouge that's been taken out of 394 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:22,880 Speaker 6: the sidewall. It's if I had to guess, it would 395 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 6: probably be about an inch and a half long and 396 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 6: maybe a quarter of an inch deep. So I told 397 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 6: her to take it to the local tire shop to 398 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 6: get an evaluation. They looked at it and their opinion 399 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 6: was that the tire did exactly what it was supposed 400 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 6: to do, that there's no steel belt showing, and that 401 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:46,199 Speaker 6: for the time being, it was okay to leave it 402 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 6: as it is. I kind of error on the side 403 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:52,679 Speaker 6: of caution, and I think I know what the answer is, 404 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 6: but I wanted to get your thoughts on it as well. 405 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 2: So good and it's a good question and I'm glad 406 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:02,879 Speaker 2: you called. Then, you know that that sidewall of the tire, 407 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:04,919 Speaker 2: and this being an Audi, this is probably what we 408 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:08,919 Speaker 2: call a low profile tire, you know, yeah, it has 409 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 2: a short height to the ground, so to speak, well, 410 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 2: you know, the tire shop is right. The side casing 411 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 2: of the tire did exactly its job. It protected the 412 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 2: tire in the sense of something going through the steel belt, 413 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 2: which is now even though it's not hanging out, it's 414 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:27,919 Speaker 2: much more exposed than it normally would be. You know, 415 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 2: this is the best example I can give everybody to 416 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 2: think about. Is you ever skin your elbow and you 417 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 2: don't bleed, but you get that you take away the 418 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 2: top layer of skin and you get that tender portion 419 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:40,199 Speaker 2: of your skin underneath, and now it's a little you know, 420 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 2: and it hurts a little bit when you're rest on 421 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 2: your elbow and then all of a sudden you start 422 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 2: bleeding because you kind of poked through. You know, she's 423 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:51,400 Speaker 2: taken away that outer layer. So there's there's if something 424 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 2: were to and that's a pretty good gash right that 425 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:57,120 Speaker 2: size that you that you had mentioned, you know, if 426 00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:00,119 Speaker 2: something were to come up in the road, now where 427 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 2: the side casing that's going to deflect. And you know 428 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 2: Bill that I always say, the road is a very 429 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 2: unforgiving place, sure, you know, and especially in an Audi, 430 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 2: especially a low profile tire. You know, I know it's 431 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 2: going to be a two hundred dollars tire or two 432 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty dollars tire. But what's her life worth? 433 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 2: What's what's what's the car worth? What's not getting stuck 434 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 2: on the side of the road or an accident worth? 435 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 2: And I think i'd have to vote with you because 436 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 2: I know what you're thinking. I'd put a tire on 437 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 2: the car. 438 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 6: I wouldn't hesitate, especially if you're going to be going 439 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 6: on a long trip. 440 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, yeah, absolutely listen and yes, but even if 441 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:40,719 Speaker 2: she was gonna just you know, I don't care if 442 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 2: she's a three mile a day commuter. You know, everybody says, well, 443 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 2: I only go three miles a day. Just make the 444 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 2: brakes work good enough. You know, a little kid rolls 445 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:51,679 Speaker 2: out on a bicycle right in front of you, two 446 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 2: blocks from your house, there's no saying where that accident's 447 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 2: gonna happen. And I think it's in her best interest. 448 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:02,439 Speaker 2: You know, that tire, Yes, if that tire was just used. 449 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:04,679 Speaker 2: You know, does she make that tire the spare? But 450 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:06,719 Speaker 2: then now she's got an unreliable spare in the car, 451 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 2: and it probably wouldn't fit because she probably has a 452 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 2: space saver or some other depending upon the year, Audi, 453 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 2: some other low profile so to speak, or low use tire. 454 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 2: You know, there's so many ways they create spares today. 455 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,159 Speaker 2: I think you go out and buy a spare, and 456 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 2: if it tore the chunk out, depending upon how many 457 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,880 Speaker 2: miles are on it, I'd probably shoot the alignment too. 458 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 6: I was thinking of that too. Yeah, and I did 459 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,639 Speaker 6: suggest to her that she should probably buy two tires 460 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 6: since that's an all wheel drive vehicle. 461 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 3: Right. 462 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,160 Speaker 2: Well, and now now the question comes up, right, and 463 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:41,679 Speaker 2: this is I know where this is going to go, 464 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 2: because now the question comes up, how much tread has 465 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:48,439 Speaker 2: left on the other tires. Yes, so, you know, the 466 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 2: industry says certain cars, Subarus are susceptible to it, certain 467 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 2: models of Jeep are susceptible to it. You know, Audi's 468 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 2: seem to be a little less fussy. But I don't 469 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,479 Speaker 2: want to tempt the tempt, tempt the devil. You know, 470 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 2: if I'm looking at tread depth and if the current 471 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,360 Speaker 2: tread depth on the car is you know, less than 472 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 2: five thirty seconds, which is more than fifty percent worn. 473 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 2: And she's going to put two fresh tires up front 474 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 2: if she's going to do some serious driving. You know what, 475 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 2: how old are the tires are they? You know, four 476 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 2: or five years old? You know those tires are going 477 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 2: to be date coded in four or five years. They'll 478 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 2: be out of the realm in another two years where 479 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 2: you're not supposed to be riding on them. So again, 480 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 2: what's the value of her safety at high speed, all 481 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 2: kinds of weather. Nothing handles like a fresh set of tires, 482 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 2: And I think it's just kind of goes with the 483 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:39,199 Speaker 2: territory of what she's driving. 484 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 6: All right, that's great advice. I appreciate it. 485 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 2: You know, I can't say it any other way. The 486 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:49,239 Speaker 2: biggest concern I have is, you know, har I'll tell 487 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 2: you the story this way. We had a jeep in 488 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 2: the shop just recently and the new customer and where 489 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 2: he was going. They've been doing all his service work 490 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 2: and all the lugnuts were swollen. Now jeeps have a 491 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 2: problem that the lugnut is capped, so there's a hard 492 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 2: steel body underneath this tiny aluminum cap and if you 493 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 2: constantly air gun them on and off, impact hammer them 494 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:18,919 Speaker 2: on and off, eventually those lug nuts will start to 495 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 2: splinter and shred, and then moisture gets in. And now 496 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 2: the moisture turns into rust, and the rust and there's 497 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 2: a bulge, and now you can't fit the nineteen millimeters 498 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 2: socking on it. You have to have a nineteen and 499 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,360 Speaker 2: a half or some other odd ball size in order 500 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 2: to get the lugnuts off. So you know, Rich brought 501 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 2: it in. We got all the lugnuts off, but in 502 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 2: looking at the wheels, the wheels on this jeep, you 503 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 2: could see that they were getting beat up. And when 504 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,640 Speaker 2: we talked about it, it's partially it's the last shot. 505 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 2: They were kind of animals, for lack of a way 506 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 2: to say it, but it was kind of interesting to 507 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,880 Speaker 2: see just how these wheels themselves had picked up debris. 508 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 2: And there's a lot of junk on the road, and 509 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,439 Speaker 2: you know, it catches your eye and you have to 510 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:00,719 Speaker 2: realize you may not hear it, sea to feel it, 511 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 2: but to have an exposed wound in that tire. I 512 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,400 Speaker 2: looked at Rich's wheels on his jeep, and we did 513 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 2: get the lugnuts off. By the way, I took a 514 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 2: little bit of persuasion. Someday I'll tell you guys this 515 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:11,360 Speaker 2: story about how we had to get out the three 516 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,679 Speaker 2: quarter inch breaker bar that's two feet long and literally 517 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,400 Speaker 2: stand on it to break some of the lugnuts loose. 518 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 2: They were so overtightened. You know, it's it's what's what's 519 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 2: the safety. I've never met anybody standing on the side 520 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 2: of the road with a flat that they. 521 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 4: Knew was. 522 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:27,399 Speaker 2: Marginal. 523 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:28,439 Speaker 4: Going. 524 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 2: Boy, I'm so glad I saved money that I could 525 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 2: get stuck here. And you know, wait, wait for the 526 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 2: tow truck. It just doesn't work like that. So by 527 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,120 Speaker 2: all means, get her, get her, get her a tire, 528 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 2: two tires, four tires. Uh, you know what, take it, 529 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 2: take it as a warning sign and do an alignment 530 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 2: and then you drive in peace and quiet and and 531 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 2: the knowledge of safety. 532 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 6: Right, And I'm happy that tire buying is easier than 533 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 6: picking out oil or getting a forty one light bulb 534 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 6: in the local hardware store. 535 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 2: That's right, absolutely absolutely, Bill. So all right, sir, you'll. 536 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 6: Be aware new year, happy and healthy new year to everyone. 537 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 2: Thank you, Bill, and thanks for being part of the 538 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 2: Car Doctor family. 539 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 6: You'd be welk you for calling. 540 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,639 Speaker 2: You're very welcome. I'm running Indie in the card Doctor. 541 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 2: We'll be back right after this. Don't go away. Welcome back, listeners, 542 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,199 Speaker 2: roun an Innie in the car Doctor. Let's let's get 543 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 2: back to the phone. Let's go over to Jerry out there. 544 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 2: And I think it's is it Las Vegas, Jerry? Or 545 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 2: what part of the vat are you from? 546 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 5: No, I'm retired in Las Vegas. I'm from the East 547 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 5: Coast directionally born in New York. But yeah, I'm retired. 548 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:29,959 Speaker 2: Gotcha. Good for you? So what's going on? How can 549 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 2: I help? 550 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 4: Well? 551 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 5: A couple of quick things. Number one, I'm sixty five, 552 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 5: graduated high school in seventy six, and I've always worked 553 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:41,160 Speaker 5: on my own car, basic stuff, changing on and everything, 554 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 5: and I've always kept vehicles ten plus years. Well, in 555 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 5: twenty twenty one, I basically went to the RAM dealer 556 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 5: and built my dream truck because this gentry Eco diesel 557 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:56,159 Speaker 5: had great reviews and looked good and I wanted a 558 00:25:56,200 --> 00:26:00,399 Speaker 5: diesel for the fuel economy and towing. My RV received 559 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 5: the truck in March twenty twenty two. All was good 560 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 5: at first, and then all of a sudden, when diesel 561 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,399 Speaker 5: was a buck fifty more than gas, I took my 562 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 5: old Nissan pickup truck. It went cross country came back 563 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,360 Speaker 5: a month later. So the diesel sat for months, all 564 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 5: of a sudden, bang bang bang, engine codes, engine codes wrong, wrong, 565 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 5: wrong dealer for weeks at a time. Because they're short 566 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 5: diesel technicians. EGR went out turbo problems an absolute nightmare, 567 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,399 Speaker 5: and especially sitting for months and months and months. I've 568 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 5: got the bills in front of me. Obviously I didn't 569 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 5: pay them because it's under warranty, but it's over eleven 570 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 5: thousand dollars pairs. 571 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 4: Yeah. 572 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:43,639 Speaker 2: What that tells me is not only do they not 573 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 2: have any diesel texts, the texts that are working on 574 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 2: it are clueless. But I guess it's easy to criticize 575 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,120 Speaker 2: from my seat here. It's in the safety of the studio. 576 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 2: But I got to tell you it's you know, you 577 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,160 Speaker 2: hang one part, two parts, as an educated guess, after 578 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 2: that it's time to call in the zone rep and 579 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 2: start talking to somebody and saying, Hey, what's going on? 580 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 2: Where we're going with this? That was probably I'm going 581 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 2: to guess Jerry at seventy or eighty thousand dollars. 582 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 5: Vehicle sixty five. 583 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, all right, A lot of money. 584 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, a lot, a lot of money. And I paid 585 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 5: cash for it because I'm retired and I'm saved my money. 586 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 5: So I was I was going on a trip to 587 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,879 Speaker 5: meet an old Marine Corps buddy I hadn't seen in years, 588 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,120 Speaker 5: and all of a sudden, the whole emission system went 589 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:30,920 Speaker 5: crap again. So I wrote, I wrote a personal letter 590 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 5: to fight Fiat Chrysler. No response, So I went and 591 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 5: I got one of these Lemon law lawyers online and 592 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 5: they said, oh, you got a great case, you got 593 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,439 Speaker 5: a great case, you got a great case. Well, let 594 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 5: me tell you the lemonlaw lawyer guys, especially, some of 595 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,879 Speaker 5: these guys online are a total rip off themselves. And 596 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 5: I can get into that if you want. But long 597 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 5: story short, every time I brought it back with something wrong. 598 00:27:53,840 --> 00:28:00,159 Speaker 5: So Thanksgiving weekend, I just I took the plunge and 599 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 5: I just traded it in and I took a beating 600 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 5: and I got a Toyota. I got a twenty twenty 601 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 5: three Toyota, right, and it was just and when the 602 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:15,919 Speaker 5: ram ran nice, it ran fantastic, but I don't know 603 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,719 Speaker 5: if you've had experience with these eco diesels, but I've 604 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,439 Speaker 5: heard other guys who've had these disaster stories with the 605 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,120 Speaker 5: turbos and the emissions and everything. 606 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not a fan of diesel in general in 607 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:31,920 Speaker 2: that application for a lot of reasons. Number one, Chrysler's involved, 608 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 2: and you know, the older ones when it was the 609 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 2: comings back in. You know, the older the what was 610 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 2: it the three's or the ninety eight's going way back 611 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 2: that seemed to be a better diesel. The newer one, 612 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 2: the more electronics they hang on it, it seems like 613 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 2: the more difficult it is to properly maintain it and 614 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 2: get some kind of decent power out of it. And 615 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 2: there's a lot of limitations. But that be said, you know, 616 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 2: we still work on them, we still see them. They're 617 00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 2: just not my favorite in the whole world. I still 618 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 2: think what happened with you is and you know, let 619 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 2: me point out the next time if you decide to 620 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 2: take the plunge again. I don't think you will, but 621 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 2: just in case, you know, the question I always ask 622 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 2: when I'm buying something weird, I want to know who's 623 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 2: going to work on it. Hey, do you have a 624 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 2: tech trained in this, and surprisingly, I'm surprised the dealership 625 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 2: was able to sell it to you and not have 626 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 2: a certified tech. You know, the way General Motors works, 627 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 2: for example, is they've got to have a certified Corvette 628 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 2: tech on hand before they can sell a Corvette. If 629 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 2: they don't have a guy that can fix it, they 630 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 2: can't sell it. And I believe the other car companies 631 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 2: do the same thing. So I'm not sure where the 632 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 2: bump in the road became in that you couldn't get 633 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 2: this solved, And I guess it's just a reflection on 634 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 2: the dealer really, because if they wanted to fix it, 635 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 2: they could. You know, there is a culture when you 636 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 2: buy a vehicle, Jerry, and I think you know that 637 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 2: now in terms of you know, you just got an 638 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 2: example of how Chrysler or how Ram, Dodge, Fiat whoever 639 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 2: they are, you know, handles customer service and handles problems 640 00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 2: like that. You'll be happy with the Toyota. I can 641 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 2: tell you that. 642 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 5: Oh, absolutely right. 643 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 2: And it's a different culture, right, It was very different, 644 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 2: the different buying experience totally. 645 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 5: And I'm gonna tell you I wanted the twenty twenty 646 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 5: three because I'm tired because they this year they're going 647 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 5: to to turbos and everything. Right, I'm sick at turbos. 648 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 5: I'm sick of too much junk on there. I want 649 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 5: to naspa it naturally aspirated, you know, basic stuff that 650 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 5: I could work on. 651 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 2: Yep, yep, yep, Nope, yep, no, absolutely. 652 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 5: And let me can I make a quick comment about 653 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 5: these Lemon lawyer guys for shures on the ear if 654 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 5: they ever choose to go to one. In the fine print, 655 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 5: you know, you think you think you sign on with 656 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 5: a lawyer because the lawyer is going to look after you, 657 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 5: look after you, He's going to be on your side. Well, 658 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 5: in the fine print of what I signed, it said, 659 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 5: if you receive an offer from Fiat Chrysler and you 660 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 5: do not accept it, you have to pay the lawyer fees. 661 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 5: Well I'm thinking, fine, okay, you know get it to 662 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 5: get an offer. Well, I think these guys work with them. 663 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 5: Chrysler came back with this low ball offer and I 664 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 5: went to the lawyering mark, I'm not taking let's go 665 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 5: to court. He goes, well, we're not sure, blah blah blah, 666 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 5: and they started dancing around. 667 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 2: So all all all of a sudden, it became your 668 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 2: your fault, and what did you do wrong? Yep, I 669 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 2: get it, Jerry, I really do. Hey, Jerry, sit tight, 670 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 2: stay on the line, let me pull over, take a 671 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 2: pause for the cause, and we'll come back to you. 672 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 2: Don't go away. I'm running any in the car. Doctor. 673 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 2: We'll be back right after this. Welcome back. Listeners were 674 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 2: kind of winding down the hour here, Jerry from Las Vegas. 675 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 2: You're still there, yes, sir, So I'm sorry, Jerry, I 676 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 2: mean to cut you off. Tell us some you know. 677 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 2: I give you a little bit of on air therapy here. 678 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 2: So the Lemon law lawyers aren't exactly why they're cracked 679 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 2: up to be a fair statement exactly. 680 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 5: And it's state by state. You got to look at 681 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 5: your state. Some states are stronger than others. Nevada's in between. 682 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 5: But you really got to read the fine print with 683 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 5: these guys, right because I think they'll put the screws 684 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 5: to you if they get the chance. 685 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 2: Right right, right, right, So well, Jerry, listen, I appreciate 686 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 2: you calling in my spies. Tell me that you are 687 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 2: is it? 688 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 4: Is it? Is it? A do you? 689 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 2: How do you say it? When you're no longer in 690 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 2: the Marine Corps active. Are you a retired marine? You're 691 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 2: not an ex marine. There's no such thing as an 692 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 2: ex marine, right. 693 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 5: Well, I did thirty years, so I'm a retired marine. Okay, 694 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 5: it lets me sit on my buttet. Can I do 695 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 5: a quick shout out because my local garage guys exactly 696 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 5: like you. It's Dad's garage on North Rancho in Las Vegas. 697 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 5: Sure it's the same way you do. 698 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 2: Absolutely, Jerry. It's been a pleasure, sir, and thank you 699 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:24,479 Speaker 2: for your service. 700 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 5: No thanks, love the show. You take care, you. 701 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 2: Take good care. I'm running any in the car doctor, 702 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 2: you know. And poor Jerry, right he's he he ended up, 703 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 2: you know, going in, and I wish I had found 704 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 2: him sooner in that, you know, I could have I 705 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 2: could have helped him, you know, maybe we could have 706 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,719 Speaker 2: diagnosed it together. Part of the problem is, all right, 707 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 2: you know, you go into a dealership under warranty. Warranty 708 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 2: doesn't mean it's getting fixed. It just means that it's 709 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 2: going to be looked at for free, all right. And 710 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 2: I still stand on the premise and my saying that 711 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 2: I've said over the years that a repair shop is 712 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 2: only as good as the people in it. The sign 713 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 2: on the door doesn't mean anything. And you know, when 714 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 2: you're buying, oh, I don't know. When you're you're buying 715 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 2: a four cylinder Toyota camera, it's a pretty safe bet 716 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 2: they've got a guy that can work on that. But 717 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 2: if you're buying an Eco Diesel from your Ram dealership, 718 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 2: you're buying a Corvette from your Chevrolet dealership, or you know, 719 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 2: back in the day, you're buying something, do you have 720 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 2: a guy that can fix this? Is he any good? 721 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 2: How old is he? Is he going to retire in 722 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 2: the next two weeks? You know, these are all great questions, 723 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 2: all things you want to know because it's all going 724 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 2: to come down to sooner or later. That vehicle is 725 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 2: gonna have to get serviced and you're gonna need that 726 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 2: person in order to properly, you know, enjoy and get 727 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 2: a life cycle out of it. If the dealer is 728 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 2: your guy, if the dealer's going to be the one 729 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 2: to work on it. And you know, unfortunately Jerry had 730 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 2: a bed run of luck. But he'll like that Toyota. 731 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 2: And I get what he's saying. He's talking about his 732 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 2: new Toyota. He wanted A twenty three because in twenty 733 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 2: four Toyota also is going to all turbo chargers, or 734 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 2: a lot of turbo chargers. And you know, I question 735 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 2: that as well. I'm not a big turbo charger fan. 736 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 2: I think it's some extra work where you don't necessarily 737 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 2: need it all the time. But we'll say, you know what, 738 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 2: turbo charger technology has come a long way and we'll 739 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 2: have to learn to embrace it. Hey, that's about it 740 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 2: for now, till the next time I'm running any in 741 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 2: the car doctor reminding you good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. 742 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:15,320 Speaker 4: See you