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Speaker 2: link in the show notes. Previously on Hot Money, Christy

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Speaker 2: Kinahan used an exploding European drug market to grow a

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Speaker 2: tiny Dublin heroin hustle into a cocaine empire operating across

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Speaker 2: the continent. In this episode, we learn about a big

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Speaker 2: shift in its criminal strategy. It's a turning point that

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Speaker 2: tells us something new about the evolution of international organized crime.

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Speaker 2: Happens on the Costa del Soul. It's early in the

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Speaker 2: morning on May twenty fifth, twenty ten, and Christi Kinahan's

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Speaker 2: fast asleep in his bed. He's now living in a

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Speaker 2: quiet neighborhood in Marbeya, on the southern coast of Spain.

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Speaker 1: Villas and at this hour they're empty. Suddenly police swarm

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Speaker 2: There's a video of this moment and it shows armed

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Speaker 2: officers with battering rams, dressed in riot gear and within

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Speaker 2: minutes he's in handcuffs, face down on his bedroom floor

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Speaker 2: and still wearing his striped underpants. It would be a

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Speaker 2: about to get a lot worse. Over seven hundred police

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Speaker 2: officers raid companies and residential properties in the UK, Spain, Belgium, Cypress,

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Speaker 2: Brazil and Island in a joint operation run from command

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Speaker 2: centers in Malagar Lund than in Dublin. Hours later, Spain's

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Speaker 2: brought down a mafia that's linked to multiple murders. And

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Speaker 2: it's in that moment Christie pinned to the floor in

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Speaker 2: his pants, surrounded by riot police that you can imagine

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Speaker 2: he thought this time the game might finally be up.

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Speaker 2: I'm Miles Johnson and from the Financial Times and Pushkin Industries.

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Speaker 1: This is Hot Money, Season two, The New.

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Speaker 2: Narcos Episode three, Sun Guns and Sangria. As far back

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Speaker 2: as the nineteen sixties, the Costa has had this magnetic

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Speaker 2: but for Brits and Irish people. It's a place where

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Speaker 2: sun burned men play rounds of golf, expats sit in

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Speaker 2: shamrock themed pubs, sipping on warm pints of guinness, or

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Speaker 1: It wasn't just because he liked the weather, the costa.

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Speaker 2: It's a bit like Amsterdam, but with more sun and

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Speaker 3: They've got all the lifestyle benefits there with other expat villains.

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Speaker 3: For one of a better word, it's a great networking

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Speaker 2: this huge multi country effort to take down the Kinnerhans.

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Speaker 2: It's called Operation Shovel.

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Speaker 3: There were seams that I was working with that were

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Speaker 2: Group, Operation Shovel reveals a crime empire of mind boggling scale.

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Speaker 2: The uk is Serious Organized Crime Agency calls it a

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Speaker 2: Back in Ireland, the media has been keeping a close

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Speaker 4: They seem to have always been there in the ether.

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Speaker 2: And it looks like there will be more battles to come.

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Speaker 4: It was no longer just you know, a press, that

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Speaker 1: But there's something else that Niccola and her team want

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Speaker 4: Did want to see Christy Kinahan if we could. We

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Speaker 4: Because human beings, no matter how much counter surveillance training

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Speaker 2: While she's in the Costa Nikola isn't only looking out

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Speaker 1: He wasn't keeping in the shadows just like his dad.

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Speaker 1: He seemed to want to become a public figure.

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Speaker 2: Because out in Spain, Daniel's become very involved in a boxing.

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Speaker 2: He's managing low level fighters, arranging their training and arranging

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Speaker 2: Excellent about five minutes into this fight, he's in the ring.

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Speaker 2: He's in the corner with this fighter and he's screaming

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Speaker 3: Danny's telling him off there, giving him the right act.

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Speaker 1: This match.

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Speaker 2: It's just a local event, but within a couple of

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Speaker 4: He was walking them up as their you know, their manager,

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Speaker 4: And none of those things happen by chance. They're all planned.

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Speaker 4: There's advice, this high end corporate advice given to them.

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Speaker 2: Why did biggas in the boxing world sort of so

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Speaker 1: You know, how did he achieve that so fast?

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Speaker 4: Look he was bringing with the fabulous wealth and back

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Speaker 4: They were being put up in beautiful villains with swimming pools,

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Speaker 2: I wonder what you think that tells us about Daniel

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Speaker 4: Well, it's a manipulative character because he starts off being

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Speaker 4: You thought you were his friend, but you're.

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Speaker 1: Not that Daniel's not only thinking about boxing.

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Speaker 2: The Spanish police file it describes Daniel as the person

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Speaker 2: It's a reminder that while he's carefully building his name

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Speaker 4: All criminals ultimately wish and aim for becoming legitimate, transitioning

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Speaker 2: Daniel now has one foot in both worlds, but he's

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at this unbelievable CCTV footage. It's chilling.

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Speaker 2: It's from twenty sixteen from a hotel in a Dublin suburb,

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Speaker 2: and it's become one of the most notorious moments in

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Speaker 2: modern Irish criminal history. The pictures show what looks like

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Speaker 2: three armed policemen in emergency response uniforms pacing down a hallway.

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Speaker 2: They're entering and exiting rooms holding automatic weapons. But these

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Speaker 2: men aren't policemen. They're assassins and they've come to the

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Speaker 2: hotel to murder Daniel Kinahan. There's a promotional event for

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Speaker 2: a boxing match at the hotel that day. There's a

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Speaker 2: crowd and they're watching the fighters flex their muscles and

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Speaker 2: grimace at each other. But suddenly are men burst into

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Speaker 2: the room and begin to shoot. People are screaming and

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Speaker 2: they're rushing for the exits. Someone in the room films

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Speaker 2: what's happening on their phone. They flee into a back alley.

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Speaker 5: I was at a murder investigation and a meeting in

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Speaker 5: a conference in relation to it, and I came out

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Speaker 5: and I got a phone call and I shortly afterwards

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Speaker 5: went to the scene.

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Speaker 2: Mikeroy Sullivan is the Irish detective who first arrested Christy

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Speaker 2: Kinahan way back in the nineteen eighties. Now he's chief superintendent.

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Speaker 5: Running organized crime investigations for the country and running murder

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Speaker 5: investigations as well. Yeah, it didn't sound as bad when

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Speaker 5: somebody's telling you on the phone there's a couple of

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Speaker 5: guys here with machine guns, and you know, trying to

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Speaker 5: get my head around it. It's only when you go

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Speaker 5: there and you look at the CCTV. You have three

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Speaker 5: guys dressed with bulletproof vests that purporting to be policemen,

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Speaker 5: wearing helmets, bulletproof helmets and carrying AK forty seven's going

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Speaker 5: into a packed hotel in Dublin City to do it

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Speaker 5: in the middle of the day, To have the audacity

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Speaker 5: to have this military style, well planned operation. At that stage,

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Speaker 5: I had forty years in law enforcement and I hadn't

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Speaker 5: seen the likes of that since the IRA. You know,

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Speaker 5: it was a milestone in law enforcement terms, certainly in Ireland.

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Speaker 5: Those guys could have appeared anywhere. They could have appeared

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Speaker 5: at an airport, at a police station, at a shopping center.

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Speaker 5: You know, they could have done what they liked for

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Speaker 5: those couple of minutes, for ten minutes, whatever, And you

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Speaker 5: realize things are never going to be the same again.

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Speaker 5: And you also realize we are in a different league.

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Speaker 5: This isn't a few, this is the war.

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Speaker 2: At the hotel, the scene is gruesome. Several people had

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Speaker 2: been shot and one man's dead, but somehow Daniel Kinahan's

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Speaker 2: managed to slip away. Irish police get intelligence that the

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Speaker 2: attempted assassination was an act of revenge for a murder

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Speaker 2: back in Spain that the Kinahans had carried out against

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Speaker 2: a former ally. But Daniel Kinahan was still alive, and

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Speaker 2: the question was how is he going to react. Gangles

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Speaker 2: are bad for business, but this was a brazen challenge

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Speaker 2: to the authority of his family on their home turf,

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Speaker 2: The heir to his father's crime empire. The man who'd

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Speaker 2: been trying to appear like a regular legal boxing entrepreneur

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Speaker 2: now faced perhaps the biggest decision of his life. Nicola

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Speaker 2: Talent thinks there was never much of a question about

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Speaker 2: what Daniel would do.

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Speaker 4: His ego was challenged. He's a nurse, says, he's all

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Speaker 4: those things that we know of human beings having the

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Speaker 4: capabilities of being, and his power was challenged here in Dublin,

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Speaker 4: and he was going to lash out and make sure

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Speaker 4: everyone knew who he was, what he was capable of.

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Speaker 5: I think it took two days. A guy called Eddie Hutch,

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Speaker 5: who was a family member of a particular group, who

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Speaker 5: was suspected to be on the other behind the attack,

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Speaker 5: was murdered at his home. He was shot dead. He

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Speaker 5: was a taxi driver, looked the gloves were off.

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Speaker 2: Soon murders were being carried out in broad daylight on

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Speaker 2: the streets of Dublin.

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Speaker 5: It didn't matter what you were involved in crime. People

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Speaker 5: were shot because they attended funerals, they were seen talking

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Speaker 5: with members of the other family, and the other family

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Speaker 5: of quite a large family scattered throughout the city. So

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Speaker 5: people were shot on suspicion of knowing or being friendly

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Speaker 5: with people who had no hand act their part in crime.

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Speaker 5: For many years, people who were soft targets. People were

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Speaker 5: shot because it might inflict pain on the other group.

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Speaker 2: Michael and his colleagues in the Organized Crime Squad try

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Speaker 2: and contain the violence.

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Speaker 5: You get as proactive as possible. It's very it's you

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Speaker 5: get as many armed people as quick as possible to

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Speaker 5: blanket a certain area. You put protection on the other

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Speaker 5: group who are targets, and you try and put as

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Speaker 5: much protection as possible. But it is very difficult to

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Speaker 5: prevent somebody from getting shot because you don't know which

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Speaker 5: somebody is going to be shot. And you work down

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Speaker 5: who are the higher profile targets, and you try to

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Speaker 5: you put policemen outside the door, you put policemen following them,

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Speaker 5: you give them advice. You'd you basically try and protect

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Speaker 5: as many people as possible while at the same time

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Speaker 5: trying to solve the murders that has already taken place.

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Speaker 5: And it's very challenging, it's very dangerous of knife age stuff,

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Speaker 5: and you didn't know who was going to turn up

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Speaker 5: with a gun at any given time to shoot any

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Speaker 5: given person, and there was no rhyme nor reason to it.

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Speaker 5: It was like all of these bounty hunters running around

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Speaker 5: trying to make a name for themselves by shooting people

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Speaker 5: and getting paid for it.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 2: I mean it sounds like a very yeah, like a

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Speaker 2: very very intense moment.

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Speaker 1: Intense.

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Speaker 2: In the two years following the Regency Hotel attack, a

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Speaker 2: total of eighteen people will be murdered and the Irish

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Speaker 2: police will foil over forty other assassination attempts by the Kinahans.

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Speaker 2: Michael had been playing a game of Cops and Robbers

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Speaker 2: with Christie since they both started out in Dublin in

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Speaker 2: their twenties. He'd seen how the Kinahan. Patcharck operated how

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Speaker 2: he'd learned to try and not attract too much attention.

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Speaker 2: But now his son, Daniel, the man being groomed as

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Speaker 2: his heir, was putting everything his father had worked for

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Speaker 2: at risk.

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Speaker 5: Successful criminals who run organized crime groups should know one

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Speaker 5: golden rule. You can't go around shooting people and not

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Speaker 5: get police attention. And the smart move is to keep

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Speaker 5: a low profile. The smart move is to negotiate yourself

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Speaker 5: around things. Some criminals the power goes to their head,

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Speaker 5: and the coke sometimes goes through their head too, but

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Speaker 5: the power goes to that and they do things because

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Speaker 5: they can. But the smart ones figure it out strategically

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Speaker 5: and say, if I draw attention to myself, I don't

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Speaker 5: know where this will go, but the institutions of the

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Speaker 5: state will focus on me. There are consequences. You cannot

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Speaker 5: go round like al Capone. You can, but you'll only

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Speaker 5: last so long.

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Speaker 2: And in the UK, Matt Horne and the National Crime

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Speaker 2: Agency have been following everything the Kinnahans have been doing

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Speaker 2: since Operation Shovel.

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Speaker 3: You've got this extreme violence taking place, this criminal vendetta

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Speaker 3: that's going on for a long period of time. Shootings murders.

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Speaker 3: You've got this sports washing, they're kind of infiltrating effectively

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Speaker 3: a global sport and becoming a major player in a

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Speaker 3: global sport. As organized criminals, you've got the major money laundering,

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Speaker 3: they've got the huge involvement in the global drugs trade.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, you are starting to think that this is

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Speaker 3: a major group and a group that we need still

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Speaker 3: to do something about. And we've not managed to successfully

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Speaker 3: prosecute them so far, So what else can we do

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Speaker 3: to try and disrupt them?

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Speaker 2: Daniel Kinahan he'd made his choice. Island was too dangerous,

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Speaker 2: and Spain too. If the police didn't get them, then

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Speaker 2: their rivals would. So they do what every serious gangster

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Speaker 2: across Europe was doing at the time. They decide to

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Speaker 2: move to a place far away, even further than the Costa,

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Speaker 2: to one of the last places on Earth where they

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Speaker 2: could expand their crime empire in peace.

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Speaker 6: Dubai is like a membrane the sort of rackish waters

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Speaker 6: of the underworld, and the murky waters sort of percolate

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Speaker 6: and mingle with the fresh water of the rules based

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Speaker 6: international financial system, and.

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Speaker 2: It's where the supercartel will be born. Hot money is

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Speaker 2: a production of the Financial Times and Pushkin Industries. It

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Speaker 2: was written and reported by me Miles Johnson, and if

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Speaker 2: you've got any leads or information about this story, you

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Speaker 2: can email me at new narcost ft dot com. The

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Speaker 2: series producer is Peggy Sutton. Edith Russolo is the associate producer.

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Speaker 2: Fact checking is by Arthur Gompertz. Jason Gambrell and Amanda

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Speaker 2: k Wong are the mixing engineers. Sound design from Jake Gorsky.

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Speaker 2: Jeremy Walmsley wrote the original music. Our editor is Sarah Nix,

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Speaker 2: and the executive producers are Jacob Goldstein and Cheryl Brumley.

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Speaker 2: Special thanks to Laura Clark, Alistair Mackie Green Turner, Arley

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Speaker 2: Adlington and Pablo dis Almoghera