1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants. Let's go. Let's go, 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: Giants do get. 3 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 2: Out my Giants, Mobul give me some Join part of 4 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 2: the Giants Podcast met Let's roll. 5 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 3: Welcome to another edition of the Giants Little Podcast, brought 6 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 3: to you by Citizens, the official Bank of the Giants. 7 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 3: I am John Schmelk, joined by one of my new 8 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 3: partners this year. 9 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:23,600 Speaker 1: The Moose, Mark Meluses from Picks, wfa N. You name it, Moose. 10 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 1: It's good to talk to you, brother Smelt. 11 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 4: How are you man. I'm doing well, John. It's good 12 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 4: to see. 13 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 2: I'm excited for the season ahead, a lot of hope, 14 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 2: a lot of excitement around the Giants, and great to 15 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 2: be working with you again. We have a long history, brother, 16 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 2: let me going back to the days of Historia and 17 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:43,599 Speaker 2: w fa N and working behind the scenes. So I'm 18 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 2: happy for all your success and looking forward to working 19 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 2: with you this year. 20 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: And I'm happy for your success as well. 21 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I was fam people know until about 22 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 3: two thousand and seven in June, you are producing Mike 23 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 3: and Chris at that point. Yes, And that was Mike 24 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 3: and Chriss last year, right, They ended in September that year. 25 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 2: If I remember I think you're right. I think you're right. 26 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 2: I think you're right. Yes, Dog went on to Mad 27 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 2: Dog Radio. Yes, correct, So if. 28 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 3: I remember correctly, And now just for the record, I 29 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 3: should tell people how we're partners this year. So we're 30 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 3: gonna be the weekend duo for a big book kickoff 31 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 3: on Fan every Saturday morning at seven am, getting you 32 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 3: ready for every Giants game on Sunday. And of course 33 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 3: Moose is also our lead in on Sunday mornings when 34 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:26,759 Speaker 3: we are a pregame show. So we're a little weekend 35 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 3: morning fan team here that's going to start the day 36 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 3: before the Giants first game on Saturday, September sixth, So 37 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 3: make sure you guys tune in on as the Fan 38 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 3: at seven AM on those Saturday mornings. So one memory 39 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:39,320 Speaker 3: I always had Moose. I think it was a Super 40 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 3: Bowl on the West Coast. I don't remember what stadium, 41 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 3: and Salacott and I were working the board and the 42 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 3: producing back in the studio and you with Mike and 43 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 3: Chris at the Super Bowl and it was Wednesday, I think, 44 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 3: and that's the day where all the guests pour in 45 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 3: and I think we got to about five fifteen and 46 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 3: we had literally like fifteen minutes of spots left to 47 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 3: get in at about an hour and twenty five minutes 48 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 3: of programming. I have never played so many spots in 49 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 3: an hour of FA and programming my whole life. 50 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: But god darn, we got those spots in. 51 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, to make sure you get those spots. 52 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 2: And yeah, that's when I think it was like and 53 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 2: I used to love producing Super Bowl Week because it 54 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 2: was the pressure, you know, And it's you know, obviously, 55 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 2: you know you're working for Mike and Chris. That's a draw, 56 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 2: so it's not all you, and it's fan, it's New 57 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 2: York and all that, but. 58 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 4: John, you know this. 59 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 2: I mean like it was like the pressure of making sure, 60 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 2: you know, to get the right guests. And I do 61 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 2: remember that week, and I do remember the fact that 62 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 2: I think I had like the span of five days. 63 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 2: I think I have like something like sixty five guests 64 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 2: or something like that over five days. 65 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:49,399 Speaker 4: And that one day. 66 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 2: I remember Mike and Chris being like, well, you booked 67 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 2: too many guests, and I was like, well, you gotta go. 68 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 2: We gotta go to break quicker. We can't go longer 69 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 2: than that. And so and Doug used to bust my 70 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 2: chops about the commercials. So yeah, we got all the 71 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 2: commercials in. You got to make sure the you know, 72 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 2: the the advertisers get to get their stuff in. But 73 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 2: it was it was an absolute blast doing those shows. 74 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 3: Turn Off and Spits figured it out around like five 75 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:14,959 Speaker 3: fifty five, like why are you playing? 76 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: Why are you playing so many commotions? I'm like, what 77 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:20,359 Speaker 1: do you want to tell you guys? 78 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 3: And you know what and I know where you're coming 79 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 3: from because if the guest walks up to your table, 80 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 3: you have to take them. 81 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 1: You have no choice. 82 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I. 83 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 2: Think like that week was one of the weeks we 84 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 2: uh we had like Brett Farvaon, we had like Marino, 85 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 2: we had Anthony Munos. Anti Munios was always a staple 86 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 2: super Bowl week, There's no doubt about it. Also, you know, 87 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 2: you had the legends of the city that the super 88 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 2: Bowl was in. They'd make the run. It was like 89 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 2: kind of a slow building Monday and Tuesday was kind 90 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 2: of like you're trying to you're picking up straws trying 91 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 2: to find guests. And then Wednesday, Thursday and Friday the 92 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 2: shows were absolutely packed. But yeah, that's like the juggling trick. Yet, 93 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 2: you know, then you had biking, Chris wants to your chops, 94 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 2: you have the stuff coming back. You're playing too many commercials, 95 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff and making sure that you 96 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 2: put together a good Super Bowl week show. 97 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, inside baseball, folks, the last thing you want to 98 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 3: do with a Super Bowl week is have too few guests. 99 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 3: For my guests, you always want to air on the 100 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 3: side too many. 101 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 4: Well, that's what happened in Jacksonville. I remember, that's what 102 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 4: I happened in Jacksonville. 103 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 2: And I got a phone call from Spits like postgame, 104 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 2: like post show one night at like six forty five, 105 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 2: and it was like, and you know, you know, Eric 106 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 2: is great, and you know he was like we joke 107 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 2: around that he was the tin man and stuff like 108 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 2: that at fan but he'd be like, did you prepare 109 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 2: this week? Did you set up a proper schedule, did 110 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 2: you make the right calls? Did you do all this? 111 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 2: And I'm like, yeah, sometimes it works. Sometimes it doesn't 112 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 2: like you could do all the work. You can put 113 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 2: everything together, doesn't necessarily mean the plan always comes together. 114 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 2: So yes, it was a very very stressful time at 115 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 2: some point, especially when you're a young producer in the 116 00:04:57,800 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 2: strain and you're looking to cut your teeth and trying 117 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,280 Speaker 2: to make mark and and do a good job, and 118 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 2: you're working for Mike and Chris a legendary show. I 119 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 2: don't think there's a better show that's ever been when 120 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 2: you look at sports Talk Radio, John And there was 121 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 2: the pressure that came along with it, but there was 122 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 2: no doubt there were years in which not every Super 123 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 2: Bowl week show was a great show. 124 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 1: Oh it's funny. 125 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 3: And then you know, my first year here was two 126 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 3: thousand and seven of the Super Bowl R and everyone's like, oh, 127 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 3: you must have had a blast during that playoff run 128 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 3: in the Super Bowl, and I'm like, yeah, I was 129 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 3: also just desperately trying not to screw it up in 130 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 3: my first year with a new team where they're trying 131 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 3: to win a Super Bowl, and I'm like, I just 132 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 3: don't want to mess this up because these goals are 133 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 3: gonna go down to posterity and I got to make 134 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 3: sure this stuff sounds good for like historical purposes. 135 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, don't get in the way, right, I mean, And 136 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 2: that was an unbelievable run, I mean on the road, 137 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 2: Tampa on the road, Dallas on the road, Green Bay 138 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 2: and then beating the Patriots out there in Glendale, Arizona. 139 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 2: So I get it right. You're starting a new position, 140 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 2: you're with the Giants they win a super Bowl, and 141 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 2: you want to make sure that you're not the guy, 142 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 2: You're not the outlier, you're not the flag, You're not 143 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,359 Speaker 2: the one that gets in the way of what and 144 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 2: make sure that everything sounds good for posterity. 145 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 3: Yes, And much like you don't want Mike and Chris 146 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 3: mad at you, you don't want like Tom Coffin being mad 147 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 3: at you for the bus leading. One of the trust 148 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 3: me that is that is not the look you want 149 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 3: to get when you're like the last one getting on 150 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 3: the buses. 151 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: They're waiting to go to the airport. So you want 152 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 1: to avoid that at all. 153 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 2: By the way, were you always fifteen minutes early as 154 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 2: well to every meeting? 155 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 3: Honestly, I was probably around ten. I'll tell you a 156 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:28,720 Speaker 3: funny story. So one year with Bob Pop and I 157 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 3: we always did the Coughlins interview, usually the Friday or 158 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 3: Saturday before the game, and for this particular game, I 159 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 3: forget why we ended up having to go to the 160 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:40,159 Speaker 3: team hotel the day before and his meeting was supposed 161 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 3: to end at ten o'clock. Bob and I show up 162 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 3: at like nine to thirty five. He's literally sitting outside 163 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 3: the room. We walk in doing this as we walk 164 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 3: in the hotel and we're like. 165 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 1: Coach, we're twenty five minutes early. He goes, not early enough. 166 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 1: So you so you could not win, Bro, you could 167 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: not how early you were. He was the best. I 168 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: love Tom. 169 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 2: He was coach is awesome, and he set a tone 170 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 2: and the culture, you know, good old fashioned Giant pride, 171 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 2: and you know the evolution of Tom Kafflin Hiss head 172 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 2: coach when he initially went to the Giants and then 173 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 2: obviously helping the Giants win a couple of Super Bowls, 174 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 2: so fantastic and obviously will go down in Giant history. 175 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 4: Is one of the great coaches that this organization's ever seen. 176 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 3: A Right, talking about setting the tone, because you were here, 177 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 3: I think last week, right, you were talking some people 178 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 3: around here. I think the tone that Russell Wilson has 179 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 3: kind of set for the building here, I had not 180 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 3: seen that here. Eli Manner was more of a lead 181 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 3: by example type of guy. Right, He wasn't kind of 182 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 3: out there, and you know, his personality didn't infect the 183 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 3: locker room but that's what Russell Wilson has done here 184 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 3: and I've never seen anything like it. Defensive players, offensive players, 185 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 3: coaching staff. Just his the way he operates, his positivity, 186 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 3: the way he communicates, seems to have really like infected 187 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 3: it in a good way. This entire building. 188 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 2: Well, you know what, it's interesting, John, perception and reality. 189 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 2: I think there was a perception of Russell Wilson based on, 190 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 2: you know what, everything that went down in Denver, you know, 191 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 2: the fracture when Sean Payton took over, the stories coming 192 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 2: out of Denver, even when Sean Payton before he was there. 193 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 2: Then obviously everything in Pittsburgh is that, you know, and 194 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 2: the stuff that he saw pregame. You know, there was 195 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 2: I think there was a lot of perception that Russell 196 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 2: Wilson was this guy that a lot of players had 197 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 2: a hard time connecting to. You know, we we know 198 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:35,719 Speaker 2: the story in the Super Bowl, right they're trying to 199 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 2: get Russell Wilson the MVP. They didn't want to hand 200 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 2: the ball off to Marshawn Lynch. Wilson throws the pick 201 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 2: against the New England Patriots. Like this, All the stories 202 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 2: that came out of Seattle over the days and then Denver. 203 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 2: I think there was a perception of Russell Wilson. I 204 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:50,559 Speaker 2: think the reality of it, I think you're absolutely correct. 205 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 2: You know, talking to you know, Joe Shane, Brian Dable 206 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 2: and hearing their statements, talking to players that you know 207 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 2: that have been around him, is that you know he 208 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 2: has set a tone culture for this team, understands the 209 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 2: task at hand, understands that, you know, his career is 210 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 2: winding down, right, He's not that they're no longer at 211 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 2: the peak of his career and is willing to do 212 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:13,839 Speaker 2: everything he can to help this organization out. And I 213 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 2: think it's probably surprised a lot of people within the building. 214 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 2: I think it's probably surprised a lot of people from 215 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 2: outside the building looking in and looking at the impact 216 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 2: that Wilson's had so far as the New York Giant. 217 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:25,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm of Darius Slayton. The word he used the 218 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 3: other day, he goes he's disgustingly consistent, Like every day 219 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 3: at eight am, it's a smile and a hello, and 220 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 3: it never changes, and it's that way every day. And 221 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 3: I do think that consistency moves when you have a 222 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 3: team as young as the Giants are. 223 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 1: I mean, you look at their skill position. 224 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 3: Guys Neil Johnson's second year the league neighbors second year 225 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 3: Wando Robinson rookie contract. Right, Slaton's a little bit more 226 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 3: of a veteran, But I think it's only going to 227 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 3: help these younger players and give them more confidence when 228 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:55,199 Speaker 3: and this is gonna sound funny, a guy that when 229 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 3: they were in high school they were watching when Super 230 00:09:57,720 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 3: Bowls and I just think that's going to help a 231 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 3: young team. Again, well, see how he plays, that's the 232 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:04,079 Speaker 3: most important thing. But at least I think it's helping 233 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 3: the young players become professionals seeing how he handles everything right. 234 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 2: I don't think there's any doubt. I think it also 235 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:11,839 Speaker 2: helps the young players. See I always handle the guy 236 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 2: like Jackson Dart in his room and the fact that 237 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 2: he's taken him under his wing and understanding that that's 238 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 2: difficult for a veteran to do right. And we've seen 239 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 2: other veteran quarterbacks not be that open minded to the 240 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 2: idea of kind of helping ingratiate a rookie quarterback in 241 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:31,079 Speaker 2: the National Football League and show them the ropes and 242 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 2: how to watch film, how to prepare, how to study, 243 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 2: what to look for when you're looking at opposing defenses, 244 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 2: and Russell Wilson has taken that job in stride. I 245 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 2: think he has an understanding of what his role is here, 246 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 2: right and John you know this. I mean, as good 247 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 2: of a guy as Daniel Jones was as a quarterback 248 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 2: and as a human being, it just didn't work right. 249 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 2: I mean, in the end, for whatever a myriad of 250 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 2: different reasons. We don't have to run down it just 251 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 2: didn't work right. So Jones is now in Indianapolis, and 252 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 2: I think the Giants is an organisation now year four 253 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 2: with Shandon Daball, they needed a little bit of a freshening. 254 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 2: So they've got the young quarterback in the room, and 255 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 2: now they've got a couple of veterans. When you look 256 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 2: at Wilson and Winston in that room, that's been there, 257 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 2: done that, you know, different levels of success. Jamis more collegiately, 258 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 2: Wilson more professionally. But they've seen it all in the 259 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 2: National Football League. And I think you mentioned the youth 260 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 2: of this team. Their experience does add to this room 261 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 2: because we know, undoubtedly the quarterback room are the leaders, 262 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 2: and really the starting quarterbacks the leader of the entire team. 263 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 3: The Giants Foundation will host a five K Racing Kids 264 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 3: Run presented by Quest on Sunday, October twenty sixth at 265 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 3: nine am and met Life Stadium. That proceeds will benefit 266 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 3: the Giants Foundation. All participants will receive a commemorative T 267 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 3: shirt after the race. Stay for a post race festival 268 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 3: with appearances by Giants Legends and the Live DJ. Register 269 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 3: now at giants dot com Slash five k. The Giants 270 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 3: Foundation is a five to one C three nonprofit corporation. 271 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:57,199 Speaker 1: Huddle up, get in here. If you're lined up here, 272 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: you got to go over the middle with at the 273 00:11:59,000 --> 00:11:59,959 Speaker 1: score great? 274 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 3: How do we make that happen? 275 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:05,839 Speaker 1: I don't know. Bud Citizens does make sense of your 276 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: money with Citizens Official Bank of Eli Manning. 277 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 3: And you know moves. It's funny, you know, you talk 278 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 3: about it. It's feeling new, and I think it's very rare. 279 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 3: And I said this to somebody the other day that 280 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 3: in a fourth year of a regime, and you know 281 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 3: how it goes, and you have a couple of really 282 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 3: bad seasons in a row, you got top ten picks, 283 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 3: you're picking at the top of the draft. It kind 284 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 3: of becomes a here we go again. You know we 285 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 3: can't get out of this hole. This kind of feels 286 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 3: new this year, and I think it's very rare to 287 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 3: have that in the fourth year of a GM and 288 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 3: a coach when they're here. But I think Russ and 289 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:39,559 Speaker 3: some of the other pieces they brought in has helped 290 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 3: make this feel fresh and new, which again hope will 291 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 3: yield better results. 292 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 2: Yeah and well, and that's really it. I mean, it's 293 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 2: a results oriented business. It's a very very difficult schedule, John, 294 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 2: and we're gonna be breaking it down weekend and week 295 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 2: out throughout the course of the twenty five season. But 296 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 2: it does feel new. I mean you're around it on 297 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 2: a day in, day out, basis right. I was out there. 298 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 2: You know, you know we can have ago and you 299 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 2: get a sense of excitement in the building. You get 300 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 2: a sense of hope within the building, and you're right. 301 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 2: I think it's a little bit of a fresh start 302 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 2: when you look at this group and this regime. Now, 303 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:16,439 Speaker 2: you know they've got to show it the results on 304 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 2: the field. They've got to lead the way and it's 305 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 2: going to be difficult against this schedule, there's no doubt 306 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 2: about it. But I get a sense that this team's 307 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 2: got to chip on their shoulder, but there's also a 308 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 2: belief that there's answers within the room on that roster 309 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 2: to get them where they need to go. 310 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, and look, you hit it, man, Like you can't 311 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 3: start O and two again. And I feel like for 312 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 3: the last ten years, every year except for the twenty 313 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:40,559 Speaker 3: twenty two season, and I think it was one of 314 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 3: the year where they won the second game. You're staring 315 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:45,439 Speaker 3: at oh and two in week three, and I can 316 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:47,319 Speaker 3: tell you, Moose, you do not want to be coming 317 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 3: home for your first home game in week three staring 318 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 3: at Patrick Mahomes at O to two, because you know 319 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 3: how it goes if you start to your own three. 320 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 3: That's a turky lean task, Okay. And you start the 321 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 3: year with two divisional games on the road. You don't 322 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 3: want to start all in two in the division either. 323 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 3: You got to figure out a way to beat the Commanders, 324 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:08,439 Speaker 3: who got to the NBC. 325 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 1: Title game last year. 326 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 3: The Giants played them tough in both regular season games, 327 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:14,199 Speaker 3: and then the Giants haven't beaten Dak Prescott as a 328 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:15,599 Speaker 3: starting quarterback. 329 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: Since he came into the league. 330 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 3: So they have to figure out a way one of 331 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 3: the to win one of those first two games. 332 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, And you know, and I think the GM and 333 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 2: the head coach have kind of emphasized that got to 334 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 2: get off to a good start, and you know, I 335 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 2: don't disagree. I mean, there's there's no other way to 336 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 2: cut it. You know, this season could get late early 337 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 2: to steal a yogiism. If they get off to a 338 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 2: really bad start, then all of a sudden it comes 339 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 2: down to, you know, the Dart watch and when is 340 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 2: Jackson Dart if he does get an opportunity to start 341 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 2: at some point during the NFL regular season for the 342 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 2: New York Giants. 343 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 4: So I think Washington's a game. John. I think you 344 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 4: hit upon it. 345 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 2: Like I look at the Commanders and listen, we all 346 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 2: love Jane Daniels is great, And I don't like Giant 347 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 2: fans were celebrating the fact that Terry McLaurin just ain't 348 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 2: the new ninety six million dollar contract. Right He's walking 349 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 2: in with his with his significant other into the building 350 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 2: to sign the deal and everyone's happy, go lucky, and 351 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 2: Adam Peters is high five and people, I don't think 352 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 2: he's all at Giant fans are celebrating that. Commander fans were, 353 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 2: But I think the Giants defensively are going to be 354 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 2: really really good this year. I mean, that's the obvious. 355 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 2: Everyone's basically stating that. Offensively, the question you have with 356 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 2: Wilson is, you know, is he going to be able 357 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 2: to operate within this system, be able to push the 358 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 2: ball down the field and make the throws and pull 359 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 2: the trigger that the previous quarterback in Jones had the 360 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 2: great inability to do so. And I think when you 361 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 2: look at you know, when you look at you know, 362 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 2: Kafka and Davell, they believe that that that Russell Wilson 363 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 2: can and I think that's a winnable game Week one 364 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 2: in Washington, they played them tough a year ago. I 365 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 2: think they can move the ball in that defense. And 366 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 2: I think the Giant defense, if it lives up to 367 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 2: the talent that's on that side of the ball. For 368 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 2: defensive coordinator Shane Bowen, I think they're going to be 369 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 2: able to attack these that front seven is loaded with talent. 370 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I defense in a second, but I think you 371 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 3: nailed it offensively, I think, and I know Briandables gone 372 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 3: back and painstakingly gone through everything Russell Wilson has done 373 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 3: in his career trying to replicate some of the stuff 374 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 3: that he's been successful at. 375 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: And I think they're trying. 376 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 3: If you think about how he had success in Seattle, 377 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 3: really good defense, good pass rush, size, veteran secondary, run 378 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 3: the ball, play action to your point, push the ball 379 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 3: down the field, and I think their combination of defense, yeah, 380 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 3: the moon ball, and then the one thing Russell Wilson 381 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 3: has always done well is protect the football. 382 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 1: He does not turn it over. 383 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 3: And if you go put those three things together, I 384 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 3: think that's the winning formula that they're going to try 385 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 3: to put together this year to try to win some 386 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 3: more games. 387 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, had the big kid is going to be Andrew 388 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 4: Thomas on the offensive line. He's got to stay healthy. 389 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 2: I mean, and John, you know if Thomas, hopefully at 390 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 2: left tackle, if he stays healthy, you know you have 391 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 2: significantly less concern about the Giant offensive line if he 392 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 2: goes down to get another injury. And he's great when 393 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 2: he's in there. The problem with Andrew Thomas is he's 394 00:16:57,680 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 2: not been available right, so he's not been able to 395 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 2: play and it has had a myriad of different things 396 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,479 Speaker 2: that have gone wrong. But if he's there at left tackle, 397 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 2: I think the Giant offensive line is gonna be pretty good. 398 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 2: I think they're gonna be good enough to operate what 399 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,360 Speaker 2: you're talking about, trying for this offense to be able 400 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:14,160 Speaker 2: to do what they want to do, which is run 401 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:17,120 Speaker 2: the football, push the ball down the field. The difference 402 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 2: with Russell Wilson now as compared to Russell Wilson when 403 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 2: he was with Seattle, is, you know, his escapability, like 404 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:26,120 Speaker 2: he's lost a step, He doesn't elude the pass rush, 405 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 2: he doesn't lengthdin out plays like he used to get 406 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:31,439 Speaker 2: outside the pocket and throw the ball deep. Everything that 407 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:33,879 Speaker 2: made you know him such an exciting watch with the 408 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 2: Seattle Seahawks. That version of Russell Wilson's probably gone. Can 409 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 2: you see it on occasion? You can see it on occasion. 410 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 2: I don't think you're going to go out there and 411 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 2: see it consistently. But the offensive line and Thomas's health. 412 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 2: You know, when you think about Keys to the Giants 413 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five, obviously the defense offense, Thomas has 414 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 2: got to stay healthy at left tackle and play. 415 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 4: To his level. 416 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, we had Warren sharpon and he does a 417 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 3: great job with his numbers. A couple of weeks ago, 418 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:00,199 Speaker 3: and when Russell Wilson was not pressured. Last year on 419 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:02,360 Speaker 3: early downs, he was basically like a top ten quarterback 420 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 3: EPA wise. When he was pressured, he was like a 421 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 3: bottom quartile quarterback. So you're right, I think getting protection 422 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 3: for him is going to be key Johnson. The podcast 423 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 3: is brought to you by Citizens Official Bank of the Giants, 424 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 3: from game day celebrations to your everyday financial needs, Big 425 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 3: move fans to get the most out of every moment 426 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:19,959 Speaker 3: with Citizens. Learn more at citizens bank dot com slash Giants. 427 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 3: All right, you mentioned the defense a couple of times. 428 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 3: Moves This could be a lot of fun. Lawrens in 429 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 3: the middle, Burns Thibodeau, who knows where abdual Carter is 430 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 3: going to be lining up? 431 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: If you can actually maybe play with the lead once. 432 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:35,400 Speaker 3: In a while and stop the run, yeah, Nash Rush 433 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 3: could be one of the best in the league. 434 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 4: Oh, I don't think there's anything. 435 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 5: And they have an identity, john Like, they have an 436 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:43,159 Speaker 5: identity like I talk about all the time, Like and 437 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 5: I didn't you know when when I was growing up 438 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:48,199 Speaker 5: and watching Giant games, they were defined by their linebackers. 439 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 4: LT. 440 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 2: Carl Banks obviously, Harry Carson's Gary Reasons, Pepper Johnson you know, 441 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:55,199 Speaker 2: they were defined by their ability to go out there 442 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 2: and get after the quarterback. You brought up earlier in 443 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 2: the conversation, like Coughlin, oh seven, Right, do you think 444 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 2: about you know, Michael Strahan and Ocu, Mianjora, Justin Tuck, 445 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 2: you know Matthias Kiwanuka. You know, their ability to get 446 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 2: after the quarterback. And and that's really kind of one 447 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 2: of the staples that has defined Giants football over the 448 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 2: years is we've the Giants when they're really good, they 449 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 2: have guys to be able to attack the pocket, and 450 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 2: we had It's been a long time since we've been 451 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 2: able to say that. 452 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 4: I think you can say it this year. 453 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I don't think there's any doubt 454 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 2: when Lawrence is as good of an interior defensive lineman 455 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:30,119 Speaker 2: as there is in the league. You've got to have 456 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 2: Duel Carter, who's freaky athletic. Brian Burns obviously coming over 457 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 2: in a trade a couple offseasons ago from Carolina. Maybe 458 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:40,160 Speaker 2: this on locks Cavon Thibodeau to be the player everyone 459 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 2: thought he was going to be coming out of Ork 460 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 2: and he's still been good, you know, but you know, 461 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 2: now all of a sudden. He's got a lot of 462 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 2: help on that defense as well. There's a lot to like, 463 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 2: and there's depth along that defensive line. You know, that's 464 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 2: where you think about the Giants is their ability to 465 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 2: go out there attack. And the Giants defense has needed 466 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 2: an identity for quite some time, and now they have one. 467 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 3: And I think, as you know mus watching the league, 468 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:04,679 Speaker 3: as long as you have the quickest way to have 469 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:07,880 Speaker 3: a bad defense is having a young secondary. Now, last 470 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 3: year the Giants had a very young secondary and they 471 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 3: gave up a ton of big plays. I think ending 472 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:14,639 Speaker 3: Jevon Holland and paulse in the debo is going to 473 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 3: raise the floor of this group so much. And if 474 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 3: they know that you're getting pressure these guys, and I 475 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 3: was talking I was talking to a former NFL dB 476 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:25,679 Speaker 3: the other day. You can start sitting on routes, right 477 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 3: if you know the other quarterbacks and not going to 478 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 3: have time to throw it. You can start sitting on slants, 479 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 3: sitting on those little stick routes and making plays in 480 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:34,199 Speaker 3: the ball because you know he's not gonna be able 481 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 3: to sit back there, run double moves, run stop and 482 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 3: goes and things like that. 483 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, there's no doubt. 484 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 2: And I think at Debo has showed his talent when 485 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 2: he was down in New Orleans outside of the Brooklyn 486 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 2: leg And I think Javon Holland now is excited that 487 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 2: he's had a number of different defensive coordinators down in Miami. 488 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:54,919 Speaker 2: You know, he ain't that three year deal and you 489 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 2: can use him in a variety of different ways. He's 490 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 2: one of the Giants. I had an opportunity to sit 491 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 2: down and chat with for Picks John, and you know, 492 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 2: I was impressed. 493 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:03,640 Speaker 4: He's picked up golf a year and a half ago. 494 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 4: He's got a non handicap. Uh yeah, love loves it. 495 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 2: And then and just he was such a such a 496 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 2: likable young man, and but he talked about the fact 497 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:17,159 Speaker 2: of the way that he can be used uh and 498 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 2: being a ball hawking safety uh for Shane Bowen in 499 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 2: this defense. And I don't disagree with you. I think 500 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 2: I think the Giants really had a tremendous offseason with 501 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 2: what they were able to accomplish, what they were able 502 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 2: to add in terms of veteran experience in the back 503 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 2: end of that secondary. I think all three levels have 504 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 2: got playmakers. And I do think even if the inexperience 505 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 2: rears its ugly headed times during the regular season. He 506 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 2: got the pass rush to be able to make up 507 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 2: for it. 508 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, and look at it. 509 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 3: And if we haven't even mentioned league Neighbors yet and 510 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 3: he could, I mean it would not shock me moose 511 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 3: if he's leads the league in receiving yards or you know, 512 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 3: top three with Jamar Chason, Justin Jefferson and those guys. 513 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 1: Brian Dable the one thing he's always done. 514 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 3: And you even go back when Stefan digs it up 515 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 3: in Buffalo, right, if he has a big time weapon, 516 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 3: he is going to get that player of the ball 517 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 3: if Neighbors can stay healthy. By all accounts, he's built 518 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 3: a very good relationship with Russell Wilson. He could have 519 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 3: a monstrous year that we have not seen here since 520 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 3: Odell Beckham's prime. 521 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 2: Oh it's like Jamar Chase's cousin. Not literally, but you 522 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 2: get the point. Like when you look at hit them 523 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 2: as playmakers, I mean they're they're very similar in nature. 524 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 2: He plays bigger than he is. He has shows you 525 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 2: a remarkable toughness and great you know, can play through 526 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 2: some injuries and some nagging stuff. Is a quote unquote 527 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,120 Speaker 2: gamer and wants the ball in his hands. And when 528 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 2: he gets the ball in his hands, you know, he 529 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 2: scares the Bejesus out of opposing opposing defensive coordinators. I mean, 530 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 2: that's that's what Elik Neighbors is. So I'm excited, you know, 531 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,440 Speaker 2: John like I am. Like I'm my son runs around 532 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 2: with his neighbors Jersey, my youngest son, Gregory, like he 533 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 2: loves screaming out Leak whenever he makes a catch. Like 534 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 2: I'm excited to watch Molik Neighbors and what he's going 535 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 2: to be for this offense. I don't disagree with you. 536 00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 2: I think when you look at and I think that's 537 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 2: what you want to do. You know, it's a it's 538 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 2: a receiver driven league, it's a passing league, and you 539 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,239 Speaker 2: need big time playmakers to do it. Now you can 540 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,239 Speaker 2: question or look at the depth when you look at 541 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 2: that wide receiver room and say, okay, is it good 542 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 2: enough around the player to prevent teams from going out 543 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 2: there and saying well, we're gonna put the hammer lock 544 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 2: on the Leak Neighbors. We're gonna force you and force 545 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 2: somebody else to make a play, whether it be Wandall Robinson, 546 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 2: whether it be Darius Slayton, whether it be Dio Johnson, whoever. 547 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 4: It might be. 548 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're gonna run into that. But that 549 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:30,919 Speaker 2: means that those other guys at times are gonna have 550 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,640 Speaker 2: to make plays to prove that, to show that opposing 551 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:35,919 Speaker 2: defensive coordinators have got to be able to play it 552 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:36,919 Speaker 2: a little bit more honest. 553 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 3: Anything about this team player, part of the team coaching, 554 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 3: anything you picked up while you're here week and a 555 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 3: half ago that you think maybe people are sleeping on 556 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:46,919 Speaker 3: a little bit, or you're very excited about it, or 557 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,159 Speaker 3: even maybe something that that you're nervous about that you 558 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 3: think could turn the season in the wrong direction. 559 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 4: Well could well, I mean outside the sketch. 560 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 2: Like I think the Giants are going to be significantly better, John, 561 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 2: I don't know if it necessarily equates to them having 562 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 2: a significantly better record because of the schedule that they have. 563 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 4: Like, so, like you look. 564 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,399 Speaker 2: At this visually, you know, you can talk about the 565 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 2: teams of going out there and playing one score games. 566 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 2: There's a difference between playing one score games when you're 567 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 2: right there as compared to when you're playing one score 568 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 2: games and visually you're watching the game and it's not 569 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 2: really a one score game. It ends up being that case, 570 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 2: or less than a seven point game. 571 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:25,399 Speaker 4: You get the point. We've watched enough. 572 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 2: Foot all over our years to be able to understand that. 573 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 2: I think the Giants visually, you're going to look at 574 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:32,439 Speaker 2: it and come into the year, come out of this 575 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 2: season and think, you know, this team's on a good path. 576 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 2: I think you know, you know, I kind of came 577 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,160 Speaker 2: away from a week and a half ago feeling that, 578 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 2: you know, the Giants co owner John Mara made the 579 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 2: right decision, made a tough decision, but made the right 580 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 2: decision in terms of staying the course. I feel like 581 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 2: I got a little bit of an extra when when 582 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 2: talking to head coach Brian Dable, he's got a little 583 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 2: bit of that kind of moxy back to him to 584 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 2: where he was in year number one. The confidence level 585 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 2: on the head coach, I got that, And I think 586 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 2: there's just kind of the concerns of the schedule. The 587 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 2: concern is true when you look at Russell Wilson, what 588 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 2: version of you are you going to get him at 589 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 2: the quarterback position, outside and the offensive line. Those would 590 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 2: be the main concerns. But like everyone's talked about, I 591 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 2: think the defense is going to be really good. Excited 592 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 2: to watch neighbors. I think the running back room Cam Scataboo, 593 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 2: as long as he's healthy and along with Tracy running 594 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 2: back are going to be particularly good. I'm excited about 595 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,400 Speaker 2: what Theo Johnson could be a tight end year number two. 596 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,399 Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of things to think about 597 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 2: and look at this team and say, Okay, I'm excited 598 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 2: about where this group is and as long as these 599 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 2: young players continue to evolve, stay healthy, get better about 600 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:41,879 Speaker 2: where the Giants as an organization are going to be 601 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 2: post twenty twenty five. 602 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 1: If you want to know how to manage two minutes 603 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:46,959 Speaker 1: of crunch time football, I'm your man. But if you're 604 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 1: wondering about a long term financial plan, you should talk 605 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 1: to Citizens. Hey, I can also talk long care. I'd 606 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 1: like to learn about Amulli routine. Yes, I knew I 607 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 1: could help makes sense of your money with citizens. It's 608 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,679 Speaker 1: funny you mentioned the record thing months ago. In one 609 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 1: of our shows. 610 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 3: I had the exact same conversation with with Paul Deatino, 611 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 3: and and we were taking calls. They say one of 612 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 3: the fans, I'm like, so kind of interest you in 613 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 3: a much improved point differential. 614 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:11,640 Speaker 1: Would that get you excited? 615 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 3: And as you might imagine, FAS did not take too 616 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 3: well to that. 617 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,159 Speaker 1: They do not care about a better DVOA or an 618 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,439 Speaker 1: EPA per play. They want more wins. 619 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 3: But look, the schedule is just really, really tough, and 620 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 3: that's going to be tough. 621 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:25,360 Speaker 1: It's just gonna be tough to translate. 622 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:26,679 Speaker 4: Well, right, it. 623 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,679 Speaker 2: Is, and I think we hit upon it earlier in 624 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 2: the convers got to set a tone early that this 625 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 2: is a different year, right, And that's absolutely that's against Washington. 626 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 2: You know you mentioned it. They played, they played the 627 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 2: Commander is very tough a year ago. I know, every 628 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 2: year doesn't necessarily translate to the next year, and everything 629 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 2: could be a little bit different. And Washington went to 630 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 2: the NFC Championship Game a year ago and Jayden Daniels 631 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,360 Speaker 2: year number two. But I think when you look at Washington, 632 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,920 Speaker 2: there are concerns when you're looking at that defense, when 633 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:54,879 Speaker 2: you're looking at that pass rush, are they going to 634 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 2: be able to get after the quarterback. There's no concerns 635 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 2: really about what Daniels is as a quarterback, and I 636 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 2: think the Giants defensively can alleviate some of the explosiveness 637 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 2: of that commander's offense, with what they can provide defensively 638 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 2: and some of the concerns they can provide Cliff Kingsbury 639 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 2: and the commander's offensive coordinator. So get off to a 640 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 2: good start and then kind of start to change the 641 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 2: narrative around the giant organization, the one that's been kind 642 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 2: of hanging over this organization for the past couple of years. 643 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 3: And of course we'll a depreview with that game on 644 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 3: our first show in September sixth, seven am on WFA, 645 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 3: and yeah, moves very quickly. 646 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 1: Let's go around the league real fast. 647 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,160 Speaker 3: I've asked this question to all my guests I've had 648 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 3: on in the last couple of weeks trying to preview 649 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,919 Speaker 3: the season. Make the case the same team is not 650 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,439 Speaker 3: won the NFC East in consecutive years in twenty years 651 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 3: since the Eagles did it with Andy Reid. 652 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 1: And Donovan McNabb. 653 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 3: Make the case for how a team knocks the Eagles 654 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 3: off this year given the level of talent on that roster. 655 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 3: Because I'm having trouble making that case. 656 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 4: To be trying, I think it's very very difficult. 657 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 2: I mean, you want to talk about you know, post 658 00:27:54,560 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 2: Super Bowl malaise hangover, not as hungry. Maybe defections alone 659 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 2: on the offensive line, I mean, but I still think 660 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 2: they have, you know, arguably one of the best offensive 661 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 2: line coaches in the National Football League down there in Philadelphia. 662 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:14,640 Speaker 2: Saquan doesn't stay healthy. Defensively, you know, they did lose 663 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 2: some guys in free agency. I think it's difficult because 664 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 2: I think the other teams have got holes. 665 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,439 Speaker 4: Like you look at Washington. I think the Commanders have 666 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 4: got holes on defense. I don't know. 667 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,199 Speaker 2: I think Tunsel helps out their offensive line and left tackle. 668 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 2: I don't know if it's necessarily a dominant offensive line. 669 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,680 Speaker 2: I think Daniels obviously is exciting a quarterback. I think 670 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 2: it's difficult. John, Like I'd love to sit here and 671 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 2: tell you listen, I think it's gonna be the Cowboys 672 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 2: or I think it's going to be the Commanders. At 673 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 2: some point in time, a team's gonna go out there 674 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 2: and went back to back NFC East titles. I think 675 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 2: we might be looking at it when you're looking at 676 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 2: the Philadelphia Eagles this year. 677 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I do think the conference in general, Moose 678 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 3: is wide open. This is not the AFC where you're 679 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 3: staring at Lamar Jackson or Patrick Mahomes or Josh Allen 680 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 3: or Joe Burrow or Justin Herbert. You don't have that 681 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 3: group of quarterbacks in the NFC. Which team do you 682 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 3: like to emerge to kind of challenge the Eagles and 683 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 3: kind of be that next team up. 684 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 4: I'll give you a coup. 685 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 2: I love the Rams throughout, as a lot of people 686 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 2: did throughout the course of the offseason. I have no 687 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 2: idea what version of Matthew Stafford we're going to get, right, 688 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's that's the concern. You look at 689 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 2: the Los Angeles Rams, and I don't think the San 690 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 2: Francisco forty nine ers are nearly as talented a roster 691 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 2: as they once were. However, as compared you know, you 692 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 2: look at their schedule, the schedule is ridiculously easy. 693 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 4: When you're looking at. 694 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 2: The San Francisco forty nine ers for Kyle Shanahan, so 695 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 2: you know their favorite to win the NFC West. I 696 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 2: throw the Rams out there. It's Stafford, who's a remarkably 697 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 2: tough quarterback and has played through a numerous amount of 698 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 2: injuries that should have kept him. 699 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 4: Off the field. 700 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 2: If he's able to be a semblance of the form 701 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 2: of Matthew Stafford that we have seen for the majority 702 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 2: of his career. I'll give you a team it's not, 703 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 2: you know, it's not the NFC South. I mean, I 704 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 2: think it's Tampa's division to lose. Don't necessarily trust Atlanta. 705 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 2: I'll give you the Green Bay Packers. You know, in 706 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 2: that NFC North, which is a ridiculous division, and you know, 707 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 2: everyone gets caught up in Ben Johnson and the Caleb Williams, 708 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 2: the Minnesota Vikings. They might be the most talented roster 709 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 2: in the division. You have questions about JJ McCarthy. Then 710 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 2: you look at the Detroit Lions losing both offensive coordinators. 711 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 2: Offensive line might maybe not be as good as it 712 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 2: once was, but you believe in what Dan Campbell. I'll 713 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 2: give you the Packers, but I'll give you this caveat 714 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 2: to it. John what version of Jordan Love are we 715 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 2: going to get? 716 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 1: And he's very inconsistent, He's very inconsistent. 717 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 2: Are you going to get the Jordan Love from two 718 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 2: years ago where if their kicker makes a kick, they 719 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,239 Speaker 2: go into San Francisco and beat the forty nine ers 720 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 2: or you know? Or what version of Jordan Love do 721 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 2: we get right. So if you get a good Jordan Love, 722 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 2: I think that defense second year half ofly, the former 723 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 2: Boston College coach, is going to be better. They got 724 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 2: to get after the quarterback. That was a massive issue 725 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 2: a year ago for the Green Bay Packers. Jacob's run 726 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 2: the football was great. Love the fact that they had 727 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 2: a gold in the receiver out of Texas in the 728 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 2: NFL draft. Like, there's things that you'll like about the 729 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 2: green Bay Packers. Offensive line is gonna be really really 730 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 2: good out there in Green Bay. The massive question I'm 731 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 2: gonna lean in that we get a good version of 732 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 2: Jordan Love. If you get a good version of Jordan 733 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 2: Love and you're looking for a team that's kind of 734 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 2: you know longer. I'm not not the talk of the 735 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 2: town to maybe take down Philadelphia and the NFC. I'd 736 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 2: give you the Green Bay Packers. 737 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 1: Do the Bills or Ravens or somebody else finally break 738 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 1: through and prevent the Chiefs from going to Young So, 739 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 1: I mean. 740 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 6: Like at some point in time, we got to see 741 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 6: somebody else other than Kansas City. I mean like at 742 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 6: some point and now we're gonna get Kelsey and Taylor 743 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 6: Swift and the engagement and the marriage and with the 744 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 6: honeymoon and everything that we're gonna get through throughout the course. 745 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 2: Of the NFL season. And congratulations to that, because who 746 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 2: doesn't love a little love. I'm glad the two kindred 747 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 2: spirits absolutely found themselves. But I'll ask you, like, at 748 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 2: some point it's got to be Buffalo, like, you know, 749 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 2: you know, why not us, They've got to walk down 750 00:31:57,880 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 2: like at some point. But then you can also make 751 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 2: the argument down in Baltimore and say, well, can the 752 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 2: Ravens play, Like here's the thing that frustrating to you 753 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 2: about Baltimore. Can they not get cute in the NFL 754 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 2: playoffs and play the way that they do in the 755 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 2: regular season? 756 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 1: And Henry bro Right, I don't know. 757 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 7: Like it's all a sudden like they want to change 758 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 7: things up instead of just be you like you're good enough, 759 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 7: like we watched it, you watch you dominate like Lamar 760 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 7: should have been the MVP, or those unbelievable Henry going 761 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 7: out there and basically lifting cars during the course of 762 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 7: the offseason. You know, he's a freakish athlete, like be yourself. 763 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 7: So I think we do get somebody different than Kansas 764 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 7: City this year coming out of the AFC. I think 765 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 7: it's kind of dealer's choice whether it be the Buffalo 766 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 7: Bills or the Baltimore Ravens. 767 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 3: I do fully expect this podcast to match the Taylor 768 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 3: Swift New Heights episode number. 769 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 1: No Pressure. 770 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 4: All right, will you marry me? 771 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 3: Moose? Tell the folks everything you got going on this 772 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 3: week so they can find you all your platforms, anything 773 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 3: else you got going on? 774 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 7: Oh? 775 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 1: We got yeah. 776 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 2: I mean we've got a little Rutgers football that gets going. 777 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 2: I do pre and postgame for Rutgers. Make sure to 778 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 2: check out Nelson figure. Oh and I do a show 779 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 2: Sports Nation nightly each and every night Monday through Friday 780 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 2: and picks at seven pm and host Sunday mornings on WFAN. 781 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 2: So but I'm happy to be with you John throughout 782 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 2: the course of the Giants season. It's gonna be great 783 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 2: talking a little Big Blue football with you. 784 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 1: Moose. Can't wait again. 785 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 3: Our first show, Big Blue kickoff live, the weekend edition 786 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 3: live on Wfan, starting on Saturday, September sixth, the day 787 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 3: before the Giants visit the Commander is to open their 788 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 3: twenty twenty five season. That's all the time we have 789 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 3: for the Giants, total podcast brought to you by citizens 790 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 3: Official Bank of the Giants from the Hacketsack. Marity Hill 791 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 3: podcast Do You Keep getting Better? For Mark mlosis on 792 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 3: John sh Bel We'll see you next time. 793 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 1: Everybody