1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: All right, friends. In the last episode, we went back 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: in time to really understand where Olgavana Lloyd Wright came from, 3 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: the intentional community she and her husband created, and the 4 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: power she now holds over everyone there, including set Lana. 5 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: But our newly wed spet Lana doesn't know what we know. 6 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:22,159 Speaker 1: She's simply overjoyed to be married once again, to have 7 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 1: a husband she can't keep her hands off of, and 8 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: a beautiful life ahead of her in the desert. She 9 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: doesn't know that Tally Essen is floundering financially, or that 10 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 1: her new husband, Wes, who'd inherited a newspaper fortune, was 11 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 1: often the one to bail them out, but he'd spent 12 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 1: what he had and then some. She doesn't know that 13 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:43,480 Speaker 1: when all seventy five fellows kiss her on her wedding day, 14 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: it wasn't just an act of goodwill or super sexy. 15 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 1: It was because in marrying Wes, she had married into 16 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: this whole extended family. And she doesn't know that Olga 17 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: Vanna's grasp on Wes is more powerful than hers can 18 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: ever be. So given all of this, does West really 19 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 1: love stet Lana or is he just doing as he's told? 20 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 1: Could the fellowship be a warm, welcoming new home for 21 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: our Russian defector. Or is this whole thing a Cohn 22 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 1: cooked up by Olgavana to bring in some publicity and 23 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:20,960 Speaker 1: some cash. What the hell has fet Lana gotten herself into. 24 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: My name is Dan Catroser, and this is Svetlana stet Lana. 25 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: You wake up in the morning, you live your day, 26 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: and then you do it tomorrow, and over and over 27 00:01:41,920 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: again and over again and over Act one. Sorry not sorry, Okay, 28 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: dear listeners, It's time for a brief d anecdote. I've 29 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: been keeping something from you. Remember how I went to Scottsdale, 30 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:13,079 Speaker 1: the Valley of the Sun. Well, it was to solve 31 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 1: a problem. I'd been digging into archives, conducting interviews, reading 32 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: and rereading spet Lana's memoirs and letters, and it felt 33 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: like speed Lana, the real, complex, multidimensional person was coming 34 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: into focus. But everyone else in her orbit they were 35 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: still feeling like charcatures, dramatic archetypes. I couldn't seem to shake. 36 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: If spent Lana was my hero, didn't that make Olgavana 37 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: my villain West Prince slightly less than charming? Tally Essen 38 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: the Tower my princess was trapped in Of course, I 39 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 1: knew that wasn't the case, and that if I wanted 40 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: to understand what really happened to spet Lana and why, 41 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 1: I'd need to get to know tally Esen and the 42 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: people that lived there in a different way. So I 43 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: had planned a trip to Arizona to meet tally es 44 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: and West's present day custodians and some of the older 45 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: residents who still lived there. I wanted a wider view 46 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 1: of the world they created. But after I had booked 47 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 1: my plane ticket and some interviews, they found me talking 48 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: about the play in a Q and a online Why 49 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: Slana Aliueva, Well, she was a woman that had great passion, 50 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 1: and she was a writer and determined to have her 51 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 1: own voice outside of the shadow of her father, who 52 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: winds up getting sucked into the cult of Frank Lloyd Wright. There, 53 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: that's what they heard me, Danktrosser on the Worldwide Web 54 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 1: calling the fellowship a cult crap. The interviews were canceled. 55 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: It was time to call Roger Friedland Roger, good morning, 56 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: and Harold Zelman all right, Oh my god, Harold, what 57 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: have you gotten me into? I needed their advice Roger 58 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: and Harold had also ruffled some feathers with the picture 59 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: they'd painted of Tally Essen in their book. What did 60 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: they think about the C word? Well, we discussed this 61 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 1: question endlessly. There is apple evidence that there are significant 62 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:23,359 Speaker 1: cult like qualities, but we made a very conscious decision 63 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: never to use that term. Cult is a way of 64 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: making a value judgment. Cult is a total community that 65 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 1: you don't like, and I think it's not a good 66 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: term to use. There have been so many moments in 67 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 1: the process of working on this story that have made 68 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 1: me question what the hell I'm doing. When I write 69 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: a play with made up characters and made up scenarios, 70 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 1: no one is upset except for the stage manager. Stage 71 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 1: managers are always upset. But now, in telling this story 72 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 1: a play as a podcast, it has the power to 73 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: affect real people, real people who I don't know, real 74 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: people who live in Scottsdale, Arizona, and spring Green, Wisconsin 75 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: who are now upset at me. Me Dan Catroser. I 76 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 1: decided to go to Arizona anyway, even if I couldn't record. 77 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: I wanted to meet the people who I had offended 78 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 1: and see what was what for myself. The foundation agreed 79 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: to meet with me. So I get here and I 80 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 1: go to the reception. It's this little plaza gravel by 81 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: the gift shop outside, and I'm just reading while there 82 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: are various tours coming and going. Fifteen minutes ahead of schedule, 83 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 1: the foundation representative I'm meant to meet arrives. He shakes 84 00:05:56,520 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: my hand, and he invites me to come and sit 85 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: inside with the William Wesley Peter's conference room. We're sitting 86 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: there in the room that used to be West's private quarters, 87 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: the room he shared with spet Lana. Their king sized 88 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 1: bed used to swallow up the space. Now it held 89 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:19,479 Speaker 1: a conference table and chairs. And as I'm looking around, 90 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 1: taking it in the sandstone walls, the glass panes, the 91 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 1: intimate space that can either feel cozy or claustrophobic, this 92 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: man is telling me about his concerns and about a 93 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 1: book that tells salacious stories, stories that overtake the more 94 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: powerful history of what went on at tally Essen, a 95 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 1: century of architecture, art and communal living. This book is 96 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:49,799 Speaker 1: called The Fellowship, written by Roger Friedland and Harold Zelman. 97 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: So I'm sitting there in West and spet Lana's room, 98 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: knowing that I have consorted with an enemy, knowing that 99 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 1: this book is something that has been upsetting to the 100 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: people there, And I panic, and I feel myself start 101 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:08,600 Speaker 1: to apologize, a Jew apologizing in the desert, just like 102 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: my ancestors had done thousands of years ago. But what 103 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: exactly was I sorry about? I had been hasty with 104 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: the word cult, sure, but let's remove that word for 105 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: the time being. Maybe I'll just tell you what happened 106 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: and let you draw some conclusions for yourself. Let's get 107 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: back to spet April nineteen seventy, the earliest days of 108 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: Wes and Svetlana's whirlwind marriage. Up until the wedding, Spetlana 109 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: had enjoyed three weeks of relative anonymity. She'd been an 110 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: honored guest of the Fellowship, put up in a private 111 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: little cottage, doated on by Wes, showered with love and kindness. 112 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: At her wedding, everyone had initially been sworn to secrecy 113 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: about Stalin's daughter's visit at her request, but Olgavana had 114 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: invited TV news crews to the party. The secret was out. 115 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: Social bulletins were reporting on speed Lana's outings, commenting on 116 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: her appearance the wedding news even makes it back to Russia. 117 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: The Miami Herald runs a story with the headline Stalin's 118 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: daughter speed Lana weds again, and a subheader not very exciting, 119 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 1: says fed Lana's son. If my wedding was described as 120 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: not very exciting in a Florida newspaper, I would die. 121 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: Add to that the fact that speed Lana has packed 122 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: up her bags and moved from her guest cottage into 123 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: Wes's suite. Like all the dormitories there, it's a small space, 124 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 1: almost certainly smaller than her Soviet apartment, and it's in 125 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: the center of it all, near all the other fellows, 126 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 1: near the drafting room where they work, and the dining 127 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: room where they eat. Tourists are also coming in and 128 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: out of tally Es and West trapesing through the hallways. 129 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 1: Speed Lana had suspected the CIA of wire tapping her 130 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: house back in Princeton. Here the surveillance was open and constant. 131 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 1: And this communal life, it's not exactly her jam, she writes. 132 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: Being with others and seeing them walking through our rooms 133 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 1: was a usual thing. What's insisted that I were more 134 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: with people. How is a woman likes bet Lana, a 135 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: self described shy, a silent mouse, supposed to rest and 136 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: recharge or get anything done for that matter. I thought 137 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 1: I was with people quite enough. People are the worst. 138 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: And then there's Olga Vana, the matriarch of the place, 139 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 1: the person who had beckons ft Lana there in the 140 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: first place. Olga Vanna's interest in people's lives is vast. 141 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: She likes to know exactly what's going on, and she 142 00:09:55,920 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: likes to give advice on everything from meals to hairstyles, 143 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: to work schedules to the bedroom. Here's Roger. There was 144 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 1: very little of your private life that was not subject 145 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: to judgment, if not control. You know, your gestures, how 146 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 1: you walk, who you have sex with, I mean everything 147 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: was part of this project. It was a total institution 148 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:27,719 Speaker 1: aestheticization of every aspect of your life. And this now 149 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: applied to Spetlana, who, in marrying Wes, had joined the 150 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: institution by default. Now it's no secret that spet Lana 151 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 1: and West seem to have a pretty powerful physical connection. 152 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: Years later, she'd tell one journalist that Wes was the 153 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 1: only man she ever enjoyed having sex with. Olgavana expected 154 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:56,959 Speaker 1: all the hot goss naturally in case you can't hear 155 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 1: spet Lana in what sounds like the world's busiest restaurant. 156 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: She's saying that. Olga Vanna immediately asked her, how was 157 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 1: it and where was it? Meaning the sex? How was 158 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: the sex? Where was the sex? Olgavannah wants to know 159 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: if her former son in law is given a good 160 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: to his new bride, the one she hoped could be 161 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: her daughter. Sped Lana is weirded out and says so, 162 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: but Olga Vanna keeps pressing, wouldn't you talk about it 163 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 1: to your mother? I said no, I'm not. You know, 164 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 1: seventeen years old was very much. I don't think I 165 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: need the price when it comes to sex at tally 166 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: Essen and Olga Vanna is placing it. Sped Lana is 167 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: going in blind and not in a fun way like 168 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 1: in Love is Blind, but in a bad way like 169 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 1: in Love is Blind. We'll get into all this and 170 00:11:50,440 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 1: more after the break act too great sex spectations. It's 171 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 1: time for the juicy stuff, the sex stuff. Do I 172 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 1: have your attention? Making an insular, intentional community was hard, 173 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: especially when it was mostly hot, sweaty, shirtless dudes hammering 174 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 1: nails into wood I'm sorry, where were we? This goes 175 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 1: back to the thirties. You were expected to give yourself 176 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 1: entirely to the fellowship, to have no relationships outside of 177 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 1: the fellowship. Olgavana knew that you had to find some 178 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 1: method of dealing with sexuality if you're going to pull 179 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 1: that off, Because it's pretty obvious you've got a bunch 180 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: of guys, very few women, and they're all young and libidinous. 181 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: That's Harold recounting what he and Roger discovered about the 182 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 1: history of sex at Taliesin while researching their book. Inevitably, 183 00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:00,319 Speaker 1: the fellows start sleeping with locals, and the town spoke 184 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:04,439 Speaker 1: are not happy about it. So Olgavannah goes into problem 185 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 1: solving mode. First, she tries to recruit more suitable women 186 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 1: into the fellowship, but she tries a few other things too. 187 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 1: She selected a group of men that she had decided 188 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: apparently would be okay with gay relationships. She lined them 189 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: all up and gave them explicit instructions in a homosexuality. 190 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 1: What Harold saying is that Olgavana allegedly showed certain men 191 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: how to have sex with each other and then paired 192 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:39,079 Speaker 1: them up to stop the sexual energy from bleeding outside 193 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 1: the walls of tally Esin There are two things I 194 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 1: want to hold space for here. One, people were being 195 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 1: pressured into making sexual choices they may not have made 196 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 1: on their own. But two, in an overwhelmingly heteronormative world 197 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: like the first half of the twentieth century, the actual 198 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 1: mechanics of gay sex do need to be taught, And 199 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: to me, this moment at tally Essen is a fascinatingly 200 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 1: problematic piece of queer history. Olgavannah would have known a 201 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 1: thing or two about gay sex. She herself had come 202 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 1: from eccentric artist circles and almost certainly had a lesbian 203 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 1: lover who was part of Gertrude Stein's Parisian cohort. But 204 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 1: the gay quote lineup, as one apprentice called it, wasn't 205 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: the end of Olgavannah's meddling. And I wanted to learn 206 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 1: more about this layer of life at tally Essen from 207 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 1: someone who'd seen it play out. So I got in 208 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: touch with Celeste Davidson. Oh, Celest, Oh, I love what 209 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: you're wearing. Oh good well, I love plaid. You know. 210 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: When they asked George Clooney what his favorite color was, 211 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: he said plaid. Celeste was born at tally Essen. Her father, Davy, 212 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 1: was an architect under Frankloyd Wright, and her mother, Kay, 213 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: was Missus Wright's devoted chief assistant for decades. Celeste calls 214 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: her mom by her first name. By the way, so Kay, 215 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 1: who came first at sixteen years old, really was crazy 216 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 1: about the rights, and so she adopted and missus Right 217 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 1: as her mom, and Missus Dry adopted her as her daughter, 218 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 1: you know, psychologically, and her whole life was spent taking 219 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: care of missus Right. According to Celeste, Olga Vanna contains multitudes. 220 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: So how would you describe missus Right Aside from being 221 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: a bipolar bitch and controlling everybody's lives at tally Essen, 222 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 1: sometimes she could be quite nice. There's something incredibly beautifully 223 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 1: succinct about that sentence. Now, Olgavannah really did not want 224 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: children at tally Esen. Remember Ger Jeff had taught her 225 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 1: that kids were a distraction from the work. She'd sent 226 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 1: her own daughter away by his command, and decades later 227 00:15:57,160 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: she allegedly encouraged Celeste mom Kay to do the same. 228 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: She broke up our whole family, She made us all 229 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 1: go in different directions. At a very young age, five, 230 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: six years old, she separated us, and my mom went 231 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: right along with them. Roger and Harold's book include some 232 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 1: pretty harrowing details about Celeste mother Kay. They write about 233 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: how Oldgavanna offered her up as sexual fodder to other fellows. 234 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 1: The way that the Fellowships sort of portrays it is 235 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 1: that missus Wright really wanted Kay to sleep with everybody. True, 236 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: it's beyond true. She said, I want you to go 237 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 1: out with Dick or John or whomever and turn them around, 238 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: straighten them out so they're not gay anymore. You heard that, right, folks. 239 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 1: Old Gavanna, who had orchestrated a whole lot of gay 240 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 1: sex among the apprentices, also believed that being openly gay 241 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: could hurt Tally Essen's reputation, and so when things got 242 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 1: too visibly gay, she apparently needed female apprentices like Kay 243 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 1: to sleep with them and turn them straight again. It's 244 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 1: all very scientific and not problematic at all. As a result, 245 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:10,159 Speaker 1: gay men end up married to women, women end up 246 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: being asked to sleep around, and marriages with nonfellows like 247 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: spet Lana must be arranged and approved by Olgavana herself. 248 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:22,400 Speaker 1: This is all detailed fabulously in Roger and Harold's book, 249 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:27,880 Speaker 1: but it's also unsurprisingly controversial inside the Frank Lloyd Right universe. 250 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: And yet when I went to the tally Es and 251 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 1: West gift shop, I was amused to find it front 252 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 1: and center on display. Here's Harold Bucks a buck and 253 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: this kind of overbearing control in the most intimate parts 254 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: of a person's life. This is what spet Lana is 255 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 1: now experiencing years later when she walks into a well 256 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:58,159 Speaker 1: established dynamic designed to sustain an alternative community. To be clear, 257 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: many people willingly signed up for this and stayed for years, decades, 258 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: sometimes the rest of their lives within this insular world. 259 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 1: They were making art NonStop, living in a tight knit 260 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 1: community cradled in the architecture of Frank Lloyd Wright, and 261 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 1: over the Fellowship's century long history, not everyone was subjected to, 262 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: or even aware of, what Roger and Harold termed the 263 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 1: sex clubs at tally Essen. Regardless, as Roger and Harold said, 264 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: living at tally Essen demanded total participation. Did spet Lana 265 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:37,159 Speaker 1: know that when she married Wes she was marrying his 266 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 1: way of life too? More? After the break Act three, 267 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 1: The Price of Love, as we know from previous episodes, 268 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 1: Olga Vana tells fet Lana about Wes's debts, and spat 269 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 1: happily pays off tens of thousands of dollars as a 270 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 1: gift to her new husband. But that was a sizeable 271 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 1: chunk of her resources, not as Olgavana wrongly assumed, just 272 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 1: to drop in the bucket. I felt that there was 273 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 1: some mistake because they imagined me wealthier than I was. 274 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 1: I heard something was my books. It was not in 275 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:29,719 Speaker 1: the vicinity of what they imagined. There was this terrible 276 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 1: thing in created by media or state department of the 277 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 1: nobahom my alleged millions in Swiss banks. A father never 278 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: left any money for me. He was a communist inclination. 279 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:48,239 Speaker 1: He didn't believe in private wealth. Speed Lana doesn't have 280 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: secrets dollar dollars, and the money she does have, that 281 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 1: one point five million, give or take, isn't a trust 282 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,640 Speaker 1: overseen by her lawyers in New York, who give her 283 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 1: modest monthly disbursements. So shortly after the nuptials, sped Lana 284 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:06,160 Speaker 1: is encouraged to open a joint bank account with Wes 285 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:13,400 Speaker 1: and when we were married, about second or thirday after wedding, 286 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:21,159 Speaker 1: his lawyers, which were also Foundation lawyers, approached me and said, oh, 287 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 1: are we going now to open joint account, which was 288 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 1: again I said yes, yes, of course, of course, of course, 289 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 1: will do open Joinica. Sped Lana is also encouraged to 290 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: sell her precious house in Princeton for cash, which she 291 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 1: does somewhat resentfully, but giving up that house is a 292 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: symbol of her commitment to Wes and she's willing to 293 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 1: do it. However, while she's in Princeton overseeing the sale, 294 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 1: sped Lana apparently learns from her lawyers that the Francloyd 295 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 1: Wright Foundation has requested an annual grant of thirty thousand 296 00:20:56,840 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 1: dollars a year in perpetuity two hundred and fifty thousand 297 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 1: in today's dollars. Sped Lana is surprised. She's happy to 298 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 1: pay off her husband's debts, but funding the organization is 299 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: another thing. Entirely the overseers of her charitable trust counter 300 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:20,680 Speaker 1: at a thousand dollars a year. When it returned, I 301 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 1: saw entirely different pictures. Nobody smiled with me. Missus Rice 302 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 1: has no time for me. West was again in competitive 303 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 1: gray face for the record. Olgavana says that everyone changed 304 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 1: their tune on speed Lana because she became rude and standoffish, 305 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:39,400 Speaker 1: not because she wasn't as rich as they thought. And 306 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 1: maybe that's true. I've gotten a sense from a lot 307 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 1: of people I've talked to that Speedlana could be mercurial. 308 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 1: Her long term friendships were marked by periods of warmth 309 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 1: and hostility. Like Olgavana, she was also a complicated woman. 310 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: But this money stuff, it's super weird and sped Lana 311 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: starts to feel like she might have gotten played played 312 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:05,880 Speaker 1: by Olgavana, yes, but by Wes, dear darling, dutiful Wes. 313 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,919 Speaker 1: When spent Lana admits her husband that she's resentful of 314 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:15,199 Speaker 1: Olgavana's financial demands, West responds exactly how you'd expect him to, 315 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: telling her to stay good friends with missus Wright or quote, 316 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:24,679 Speaker 1: we shall meet a tragedy. But through the power of 317 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 1: selective hearing, Spelana still sees West as her beloved husband mother. 318 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 1: Olgavana was the one who was getting in the way. 319 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,680 Speaker 1: Late one night, a few months into their marriage, spent 320 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:39,919 Speaker 1: Lana and West are in bed in the phone rings. 321 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: Spelana answers the call and finds a heated Olgavana on 322 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:45,919 Speaker 1: the other side of the line. There's been a problem 323 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:50,719 Speaker 1: with an apprentice, and Wes is needed immediately spent. Lana 324 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: isn't having it, she bites back. He was already in bed, sleeping. 325 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 1: Why do you need him? She was a little bit 326 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 1: on this excited side of yelling, And I said, missus right, 327 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 1: please don't yell at me. I'm a new person here. 328 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 1: I don't know your waist, but please don't. I have 329 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 1: been yelled at enough. Please don't yell at me. And 330 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 1: she kind of gasps. There, you know, now, this might 331 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:26,400 Speaker 1: seem like a small, insignificant moment. We've all gotten an 332 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 1: after hours phone call from work. Maybe we said something 333 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 1: to our boss, or maybe we didn't, and most likely 334 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 1: we moved on. But there's a reason why Olgavannah gasped. 335 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 1: People didn't talk back to mother and first fet Lana 336 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 1: to not only reject missus Wright's orders, but then to 337 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 1: tell the matriarch not to yell. Why that's like not 338 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: wearing astless chaps at Folsom Street Fair. It's just not done. 339 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 1: According to an unpublished chapter of Olgavana's autobiography, which also 340 00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:00,919 Speaker 1: details this late night argument. West encouraged set Lana to 341 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:05,880 Speaker 1: apologize to missus Wright for her outburst, however innocent her intentions. 342 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,160 Speaker 1: Wes was a man who valued his work above all else, 343 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,680 Speaker 1: and you didn't want his wife to muck things up. 344 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: Olgavana sets the scene set Lana coming into a room 345 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 1: and sitting down, staring at the floor while saying, I 346 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:26,119 Speaker 1: apologize if I caused you any inconvenience. Olgavana describes fet 347 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 1: Lana's apology as cold like ice. She says she even 348 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 1: saw a disagreeable smile creep onto stet Lana's face, and 349 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 1: then set Lana shoots up with a frosty stare and says, 350 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,880 Speaker 1: by the way, I want you to know, I am 351 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 1: a free person. I do as I please. Olgavana writes 352 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 1: she smiled that snake smile with lips and little waves 353 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: and said, you see, I don't belong to you. By 354 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 1: her own account, Olgavannah was spawns very quietly, spet Lana, Now, 355 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 1: in the last statement, your last half of your phrase 356 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 1: is true, you certainly don't belong to me. But in 357 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 1: the first part of your phrase, you are wrong. You 358 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,919 Speaker 1: are not free. You are bound from head to foot 359 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: in iron chains they surround you. You are a slave, 360 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 1: spet Laana, of yourself. You are not a free person. 361 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,640 Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, you are the most terrifying 362 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 1: slave I have ever seen yet. Slave of your passions, 363 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 1: slave of your hatreds, of your likes, of your dislikes, 364 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 1: of your jealousy, which is reaching a grotesque proportion. You 365 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 1: are jealous of me and Wess. You are jealous of 366 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 1: every girl on the place. You are jealous of every man. 367 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: You are a slave. You are not a master, and 368 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 1: it is the master who is free. No, spet Lana, 369 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 1: you are a slave. Okay. First off, I love this 370 00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 1: monologue and I want to use it for auditions for 371 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 1: the rest of my life. And second, by Wes's design, 372 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:07,399 Speaker 1: this whole exchange was supposed to be a reconciliation between 373 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: these two powerful women. But that's not how this went 374 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 1: at all. And speed Lana's lackluster apology to Olgavana and 375 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:19,400 Speaker 1: Olgavannah's mean spirited response. This is the beginning of a 376 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 1: shitty pattern that is going to repeat again and again 377 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 1: and again. Like Paisley, but this fight about the late 378 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,919 Speaker 1: night phone call and the weird apology and monologue that 379 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:34,400 Speaker 1: followed the money, the communal life, the red flag after 380 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: red flag after red flag. None of this deters fet Lana. 381 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 1: She remains as devoted to Wes as ever, which to 382 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 1: me is so surprising. She must have really loved him. 383 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:52,640 Speaker 1: You See, a man could be good friends or good lover, 384 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:56,880 Speaker 1: or good parents, or good husband. He was good husband. 385 00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:00,640 Speaker 1: I felt that old my god, Finally, finally, I would 386 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 1: love to stay with this man, you know, until end 387 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 1: of my days. Because he had a way to introduce 388 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,879 Speaker 1: me and say this is my wife. He would say 389 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 1: it's this is my wife in such a way that 390 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: I will just swoon, you know, I was just man, 391 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 1: Oh my god, how wonderful. When West finally takes bet 392 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 1: Lana on a trip to California that June, away from 393 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:27,639 Speaker 1: tally Essen without the constant demands of the Fellowship, he 394 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 1: is attentive to his bride again. She meets his sister 395 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:34,120 Speaker 1: and his brother in law. They go shopping. West picks 396 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 1: out over the top glittery dresses for speed Lana that 397 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:42,439 Speaker 1: she would never pick out on her own. First doles, chiffon, brocade, silk. 398 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:46,440 Speaker 1: You must look stunning, West tells her, and she accepts 399 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:50,199 Speaker 1: She's no longer speed Lana, a Lujeva writer. She was 400 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 1: now sped Lana Peters, the architect's wife. She has to 401 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 1: dress the part, and this time with West in California 402 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,919 Speaker 1: makes her want to dress the part too. I wanted 403 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,400 Speaker 1: to be a part of the show, a part of 404 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 1: the business, a part of his life. This is the 405 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:12,879 Speaker 1: constant struggle with Svetlana. She feels things both good and 406 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 1: bad in big ways. She's drawn to West, yet repelled 407 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,719 Speaker 1: by the world he belongs to. I too, came to 408 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,679 Speaker 1: tally Esen a skeptic. I really didn't care about the 409 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:26,639 Speaker 1: organic architecture, and I generally think deserts are stupid. Where's 410 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 1: your dirt, desert, Where's your dirt? But during my visit 411 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 1: I had some wonderful background interviews with people that lived 412 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: and worked at tally Esen, charming, artistic, idealistic people who 413 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 1: I really enjoyed spending time with. They showed me around, 414 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 1: let me dig through their archives, and told me wonderful stories. 415 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,479 Speaker 1: And there were moments when I was overcome by the 416 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 1: art and history and community of the place. I have 417 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 1: to imagine that spet Lana might have been too. So Yes, 418 00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 1: it's true, Olga Vana was overbearing to say the least, 419 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 1: But there were other people there who were great. Here's 420 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 1: the last you know. There are people like l Luis 421 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 1: Christa who did the sculpture. She was an amazing person, 422 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 1: Jim and Maxine, Fefrid car the Lockhart Tall and Brandoc Peters. 423 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 1: I mean there were lots of people to get involved with, 424 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 1: other than the rights. The truth is. Of course, then 425 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 1: not everything is cut and dry. People places, they contain 426 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 1: multitudes and sometimes even hypocrisies. Now, every year the Fellowship 427 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 1: would caravan from tally Essen West in Arizona back to 428 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: the original tally Essen in Wisconsin for the summer, and 429 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 1: shortly after West and spet Lana returned from their California 430 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 1: mini moon, they pack up the car and make the drive, 431 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 1: just the two of them. They make their way through 432 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 1: the Grand Canyon, the Rockies, and the planes. West, who 433 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 1: has made this trip twice a year for nearly four decades, 434 00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: is poring over with vivid stories, welcoming her into his world. 435 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 1: Sometimes fet Lana takes the wheel of the Cadillac when 436 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 1: I date. The driving us would relax thing funny songs, 437 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 1: recite limericks, or just doze. Then I would find him 438 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 1: once again as he was before. Outside of the fellowship, 439 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:24,959 Speaker 1: West is simply the man she fell in love with. 440 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 1: Away from the mismerizing eyes of his boss former mother 441 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 1: in law, he would become quite a different personality. And 442 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 1: when they arrive in the Serene River Valley, he comes alive. 443 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 1: When he entered the green, lush Wisconsin countryside of us 444 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 1: became even lyrical. He loved these areas most of all. 445 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 1: That summers speed Lana and West settle into their new 446 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 1: life together in Wisconsin. She loves being his wife. She 447 00:30:56,440 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 1: loves the queen hills and babbling brooks. She feels herself 448 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 1: being drawn deeper and deeper. Suddenly everything has become so 449 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 1: bright and clear. Every blade of grass, every wild flower 450 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 1: I walked through, the grove's breathed, fragrant errands, felt so young, 451 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 1: every nerve in harmony with nature around me. But she 452 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 1: feels well something else too. After I spent two weeks 453 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 1: in that state of peaceful bliss, the local doctor confirmed it. 454 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 1: I fuzz pregnant. YEO. Suddenly, in this battle between Olga 455 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 1: Vana and Spetlana, with West caught in the middle, the 456 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 1: weirdest throuble of all Time, the steaks are a lot higher, 457 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 1: and this pregnancy it's not gonna go over well with 458 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 1: missus Wright on the next episode of set Lana stet Lana. 459 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 1: St Lana stet Lana is a production of iHeart Podcasts 460 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 1: and the documentary group I'm Your Host Dan Katrosser. The 461 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 1: show was written and produced by me Adam Webber, Alison Joy, 462 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 1: and Katherine Isaac. We also serve as executive producers at 463 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 1: the documentary group. Our executive producer is Joe Batzilowitz, with 464 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 1: production oversight by Stacy Kleiger an additional support from Tom 465 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:32,719 Speaker 1: Yellen and Gabrielle Tenenbaun. Our iHeart team is supervising producer 466 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 1: Casey Pegram and executive producer Maya Howard. Editing assistants from 467 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 1: producers Christina Lorenger and Joey pat Original music by Elan Izakov, 468 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 1: Production counsel by Slas ekhous Dasty Haynes Lockoe, clearance counsel 469 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 1: by Ballard Sparr, Fact checking assistance by Megan Trout, Research 470 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 1: assistants by Caleb Martin Rosenthal. Special thanks to my husband 471 00:32:56,600 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 1: Jordan Siegel and Roger Friedland and Harold Zelman, author of 472 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 1: the book The Fellowship, who kindly granted permission to include 473 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 1: excerpts from their taped interview with Stelana