1 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: You're listening to Ron and Nanian The Car Doctor, nationally 2 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: recognized auto expert trusted by Mechanics, Weekend wrenchers and vehicle 3 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: owners alike. Ron brings over forty years of hands on 4 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: experience and deep industry insight to help you understand your vehicle. 5 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: Join the Conversation live every Saturday from two to four 6 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 1: pm Eastern by calling eight five to five five six 7 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 1: zero nine nine zero zero. That's eight five to five 8 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 1: five six zero ninety nine hundred, your direct line to 9 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: honest answers and practical advice. Looking for more, visit cardoctorshow 10 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: dot com for past episodes, repair tips, and Ron's latest insights, 11 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: and be sure to subscribe to the Car Doctor YouTube 12 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: channel for exclusive videos, real repair footage and more. Now 13 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 1: start your enginies. The Car Doctor is in the garage 14 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: and ready to take your call. 15 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 2: Oh it's my turn again. What a crazy day, right, 16 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 2: we're still kind of recovering from our lack of being 17 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 2: at PBA two eighty six Car Show and toml are 18 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 2: twelve talking about it. And you know what we're going 19 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 2: to find out this week when we call up and 20 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 2: talk to the software company and why this didn't talk 21 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 2: to that, and that didn't talk to this, and the 22 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 2: thingamagig didn't work. And you know, we're talking about pivoting, 23 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 2: and that's part of what allt to repair is, right, 24 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 2: it's it comes back to it. It teaches me the 25 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 2: lesson over and over again that life is about pivoting 26 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 2: and being flexible and making the change that you don't 27 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 2: want to make when you least expect it, but have to. 28 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 2: And I just keep thinking that's the lesson today because 29 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 2: we're frustrated, as you can tell that we didn't get 30 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 2: to stay the whole day at the show. On the 31 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 2: other hand, I did get to washing wax the hot rod, 32 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 2: something I haven't done in two years because I haven't 33 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 2: taken the cover off but three times. And I taught 34 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 2: me that I have to get out and drive it more. 35 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 2: And you know what, it was good in the sense 36 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 2: that I enjoyed driving the car. It's been a while. 37 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 2: I have to do more of that because you know, 38 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 2: there's only so many nice sunny days left in a 39 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:59,279 Speaker 2: lot of ways, let's all r up the garage doors. 40 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 2: Eight five five five six zero nine nine zero zero 41 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 2: is the phone number. Let's go over to Donna down 42 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 2: in Tennessee a ten Chevy Equinox. Donna, welcome to the 43 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 2: car doctor. How can I help? 44 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 3: Hi? Thank you. I had my air compressor on my 45 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:16,399 Speaker 3: air conditioning go out, okay, and so I had it replaced. 46 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 3: And it only blows cold air from one side. It 47 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 3: barely blows from the other side. And the guy who 48 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 3: did put it in had a transmission fall on him, 49 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 3: so he's not available. I checked the actuator, doors already 50 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 3: changed to cabin filter and no, luck. 51 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, if if it's not getting any airflow, is 52 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 2: the air coming out anywhere or there's just yes? Is 53 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 2: there just no airflow? 54 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 3: No, the air is coming out on the passenger side, 55 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 3: and it's cool, very cool. And then on this passenger side, 56 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 3: did I just say that? 57 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know what you're meaning. The driver's side, right, 58 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 2: that's okay, that's a kid. 59 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 3: But on the passenger side, I'm getting very little blow 60 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 3: and it's not cool. 61 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 2: All right, So we've got minimal airflow and what's there 62 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 2: is not cool? And that was that since the ac 63 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 2: compressor was done, yes, and you're you never got back 64 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 2: to I mean, what did he do the air? I'm 65 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 2: gonna I'm gonna paraphrase it like this, The ac compressor 66 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 2: was done on Monday, the transmission fell on him on Tuesday, 67 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:26,359 Speaker 2: and you went back on Wednesday and he wasn't there. 68 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 2: It was that quick, that kind of a. 69 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 3: Scenario, Well, I kind of. I think it was about 70 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 3: a week later. 71 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, and you have no way to contact him. 72 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 2: Is it was it like this when you the first 73 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 2: time you turn the air on. 74 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 3: No, I can't say that. Well, it might have been 75 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 3: because I drive it, so I didn't realize the passenger 76 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 3: side wasn't getting it. I just knew when it was 77 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 3: getting really warm outside, right, I started sweating in the 78 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 3: car with the air conditioner on, and then I started 79 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 3: checking stuff. 80 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 2: Because you're doing the right you're looking at the right things. Listen, 81 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 2: the first things that come to my mind is airflow. 82 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 2: Notwithstanding when I see a system that's warmer on one 83 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 2: side than the other and it's a split evaperator like 84 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 2: this one, is I always think about low system or 85 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 2: incorrect system charge. All right, So that's that's always on 86 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 2: the back of my mind. Do I have a system 87 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 2: charge issue to a charge level issue? But the fact 88 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 2: that there's no air blowing out of the one side 89 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 2: where's the air going? And I would get curious at that. 90 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 2: I would want to take a scan tool and do 91 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 2: a sweep test. You know, have to sit there, and 92 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 2: you know, you can actually take a good quality scan tool, 93 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 2: something more than OBD two and self test the actuators. 94 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 2: In other words, take the front door to your house. 95 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 2: You know where closed, you know where closed is right, 96 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 2: and you know where you know where full open is right. Well, 97 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 2: you can do that with a scan tool and the 98 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 2: computer will log that, it will see you all you 99 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 2: know whatever it is one hundred and eighty two steps 100 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 2: and if it only gets up to one hundred and sixty, 101 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 2: it will report that as a problem. Now, is it 102 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 2: possible for some reason this is out of calibration? Sure 103 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 2: it could. It could think one's sixty is a maximum 104 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 2: opposite end position. But that's kind of odd, right that 105 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 2: he did a compressor and all of a sudden you've 106 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 2: got this problem. So, you know, instead of looking for 107 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 2: what's bad, I really want to go back to what 108 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 2: I always say. I want to look for what's good. 109 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 2: Does it pass a sweep test, does it have a 110 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 2: good system charge in it? Is air coming out anywhere 111 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 2: on this vehicle? Other than the vents. When you've got 112 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 2: it in the vent position, if you put it on 113 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 2: the frost, can you well, let's say you can't do that, right, 114 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 2: you can. You're split side to side temperature wise, but 115 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 2: you can't change position. If you put this into frost, 116 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 2: the frost probably over rides. Well wait a minute, how 117 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 2: are you? How are you split on this? You're split 118 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 2: temperature wise, not position wise. 119 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:02,280 Speaker 3: Well, it does, like I said, it barely blows out 120 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 3: the passenger side, and it's not cool. I did just 121 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,599 Speaker 3: hit the defrost button and I can feel it on 122 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 3: my feet. So oh, but that's good. 123 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 2: Let's see, right, turn the air conditioning off. Does the 124 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 2: defrost come out through the top? 125 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 3: Sounds like it is, but I can't reach them. 126 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 2: And then and then why were you feeling it on 127 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 2: your feet in the defrost position with the AC on? 128 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 2: You should be feeling it in your face? Or is it? 129 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 2: Is it coming? Is it coming out the bottom? 130 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 4: See? 131 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 2: I think you've got a stuck door. I really do. 132 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 4: Well. 133 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 3: I did change the middle one. I forget what it's called, 134 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 3: but I kind of checked out the one on each 135 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 3: side and those seemed fine, right, Actually your doors? Yeah, 136 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 3: and the middle one did not look like it was 137 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 3: operating well, So it went ahead and just changed it. 138 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 2: Right when you when you had that one off, were 139 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 2: you able to freely move the door? 140 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 3: I didn't. I just put a new one on. 141 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 2: You didn't try You didn't try moving it? Right? 142 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:04,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess I should. 143 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 2: I still have the part, right? Is it? 144 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 4: Is it? 145 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 2: Because? Is it binding? And then if you put a 146 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 2: new one on, did you calibrate it because sometimes they 147 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 2: require calibration? 148 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 3: Thank you? No? I did not? 149 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 2: All right, So you got a bunch of things to 150 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 2: do here. 151 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 3: Yep, I need a high low UH pressure gauge for 152 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 3: checking the high low right. 153 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 2: Well, you do need You do need gauges. 154 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 4: You know. 155 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 2: You will need some kind of a recovery system too, 156 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 2: if you're going to do this on your own, you know. 157 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 2: And I can get into an argument with AC guys 158 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 2: about this all day long. Everybody says, well, you look 159 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 2: at ambient temperature, and if ambient temperature is eighty degrees 160 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 2: and it's it's showing eighty five pounds on the low 161 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 2: side gauge at rest or eighty five pounds across the 162 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 2: system at rest, that means you've got correct charge. Yeah, 163 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 2: I disagree with that. I don't find ambient temp and 164 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 2: a relationship to pressure in the system really exists anymore 165 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 2: as being accurate. I've had far too many systems with 166 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 2: new one thirty four refrigerants show me just the opposite 167 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 2: to be incorrect. And I really like if I'm dealing 168 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 2: with a mystery system, I really like to be the 169 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 2: guy that pull it out, measure it, recharge it. You 170 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 2: know what kind of oil comes out, what kind of 171 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:21,679 Speaker 2: refrigerant comes out, and you know go from there. 172 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 3: So well should I? And my other thought was should 173 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 3: I waste the money to do a die test on it? 174 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 2: Well? Why you're thinking maybe it's low? 175 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 3: Well I think that I always like to start with 176 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 3: the easiest stuff, which I've done. 177 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know the well, the problem is you 178 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 2: can listen, you can add die to this, all right, 179 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 2: you can surely do that. But you know how low 180 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 2: is it? You're you're about You're on step four. I 181 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 2: think it's great, I really do, but you're on step four. 182 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 2: I think step one is the things we talked about. 183 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,199 Speaker 2: Can you can you manually move the door? How much 184 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 2: refrigerants in it? You know, if you if you play 185 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 2: with the knob does it come out anywhere or is 186 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 2: it stuck in one position that it's always going to 187 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 2: be blowing out at your feet, right, you know, right, 188 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 2: so it's it's you know, and then does it need 189 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 2: calibration and then yeah, okay, if it's low on charge, 190 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 2: did he not charge the system properly? And you know, 191 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 2: maybe he made a mistake, maybe he read the wrong amount. 192 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 2: Is there a rear evaporator in the car and he 193 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 2: didn't realize it, so he charged it for a front 194 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 2: only evaporator system. It is right, okay, as long as 195 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 2: as long as it is. But you know, you'll answer 196 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:39,719 Speaker 2: the question if you're using a machine that recovers, and 197 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 2: if it's supposed to have two pounds in it, you 198 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 2: take out you know, one pound fourteen ounces close enough. 199 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 2: If you take out one pound, that's fifty percent. That's 200 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 2: that's that's very low. And then that's a problem. Now 201 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 2: you want to recharge it. Hey, the system works perfect, 202 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 2: except I got to figure out way the air is 203 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 2: not blown because I I made a mess of my 204 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 2: mode door when I did the actually trying to you know, 205 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,959 Speaker 2: shotgun this. You know, now you want to add a 206 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 2: die to it. So if in two weeks, it's low 207 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 2: on charge again. Now you got a place to go. 208 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 2: But to start to start adding things to the pot. 209 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,679 Speaker 2: You know, there's always ten steps. I like. I like 210 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 2: to encourage people to sit down and follow the ten 211 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 2: in order. Don't hopscotch. Oh all right, So not scolding, 212 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 2: just saying, you know, I don't. I don't like to 213 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 2: play hopscotch. It's painful for me too, believe me, because 214 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 2: I want to get to the solution. You know what 215 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 2: order repairs like life. Here, I am saying that again. 216 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 2: You got to enjoy the ride in the process. You 217 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 2: really do. 218 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 3: So yeah, well I'm not enjoying the ride too hot. 219 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 2: Well I get that one hundred percent. One hundred percent. 220 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 3: So you're giving me some tips to think about because 221 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 3: I had no idea about the calibration on. 222 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 2: The door, right, Sometimes there's a calibration. You have to 223 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 2: tell it. Here's the new actuator, here's zero. And have 224 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 2: you ever had a car with a dead you know, 225 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 2: have you ever had a car And then I got 226 00:10:57,800 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 2: to go, have you ever had a car with a 227 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 2: dead battery? And you replace the battery, and then the windows, 228 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 2: the power windows, the automatic windows don't work, and you 229 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:07,559 Speaker 2: have to train the windows. Same thing. You got to 230 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 2: show the computer up. You got to show the computer down. 231 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden it knows position. You 232 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 2: got to you put an actuator in it. You got 233 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 2: to show it zero. You got to show it one 234 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,559 Speaker 2: hundred and eighty degrees in the other direction and back. 235 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 2: And that's probably a good chance of what you're going through. 236 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 2: So you got some steps to do here, Donna, you 237 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 2: do them. You give me a call back if you 238 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:28,439 Speaker 2: need me. Eight five five five six nine nine zero 239 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 2: zero running any of the Car Doctor coming back right 240 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 2: after this. Hey, let's not waste any time. Let's go 241 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:39,599 Speaker 2: right to Jamie and Iowa seventy nine f one, p 242 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 2: fifty Jamie, Welcome to the Car Doctor. What's going on? 243 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 4: Hi? 244 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 5: Ron? Yes, well, I've got this truck and it's been 245 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 5: running perfectly except the other last weekend. I pulled it 246 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 5: in the garage and parked it, and then I went 247 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 5: to go start it, like Monday or something, and it 248 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 5: wouldn't start, just frank over. So I thought, well, there's 249 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 5: no spark, So I put a spark plug tester on it, 250 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 5: and it didn't show any sparks. I said, Okay, I 251 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 5: don't have spark. So I checked the coil and the 252 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:17,439 Speaker 5: coil with the little meter you know those little dialmeters, 253 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 5: right multimeter. It shows that the coil is good. Okay, 254 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 5: Well I checked the coil. 255 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 2: You didn't. You did an om reading on the coil 256 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 2: you own, you owned the primary, okay. 257 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 5: And then I went and checked the fuse for the 258 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 5: coil and it was good. 259 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 2: All right, you had power at the positive side. 260 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:41,439 Speaker 5: Yeah, oh yeah, okay, And I actually replaced the fuse. 261 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 5: But anyway, then I disconnected the Duras spark where it 262 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 5: was into the watering harness and made sure it was 263 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 5: all clean and not coroded, put it back together, and 264 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 5: it wouldn't start. So then I thought, well, I have 265 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:58,079 Speaker 5: been having trouble with the selenoid on the firewall there 266 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:01,439 Speaker 5: or the fender. It had been sticking and I'd had 267 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 5: to jump out open the hood and whop it and 268 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 5: it'd stop cranking. So I thought, well, I need to 269 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 5: replace that anyway, So I replaced that because I thought, well, 270 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 5: maybe when it was cranking over the engine longer than 271 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:14,839 Speaker 5: it's supposed to be, that it maybe caused it to 272 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 5: burn out the ignition side. 273 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 4: So I got a other before. 274 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 2: We go, before we go too far, Jamie. So you know, 275 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 2: you know you don't have spark. Do you have fuel pressure? 276 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 4: Yeah? 277 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 5: There was gas? 278 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 2: Okay. 279 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 5: I pumped the carburetor and it was his. 280 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 2: Right, and and okay, so you have fuel pressure, okay, right. 281 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 5: I put another selenoid on it, that was a new one, 282 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:48,959 Speaker 5: and then I cranked it over and it started and 283 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 5: it was running perfect, and then it just all of 284 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 5: a sudden quit and I thought, well, that's a fluke. 285 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 5: But it's cold, you know, just started up. 286 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 2: You put another you put another ignition module in. 287 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 5: No, I haven't. 288 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 6: I put a selenoid for the starter okay, right, it 289 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 6: was sticking. Okay, I know I need it anyway, Okay, 290 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:13,679 Speaker 6: maybe it was on it. 291 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 2: What what kind of what kind of ignition solenoid is this, Jamie? 292 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 2: Is it Is it the square rectangular piece mounted to 293 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 2: the distributor or is it the big box with the 294 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 2: two leads that come off and it sits on the 295 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 2: driver's fender. 296 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 5: Well, yeah, it's the round little deal with the two leads. 297 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 6: And then on the middle of it, it's got the 298 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 6: starter side and it's got the run side. 299 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 2: Right, and it's it sits on the fender. 300 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, all right. 301 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 2: How are the grounds? How are the how are the 302 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 2: grounds on the forty five year old vehicle? 303 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 4: They're good? Okay? 304 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 2: How did you check them back up? 305 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 5: How'd you check them unscrewed them? 306 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 2: And okay? How about can we do a vaulted drop test? 307 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 2: Do you understand the concept? 308 00:14:57,960 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 4: Not really? 309 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 2: Okay, let's let's let's learn it then. So you know, 310 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 2: in New Jersey, if you want to go to the shore, 311 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 2: you take the parkway. The parkway goes down the length 312 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 2: of New Jersey. Now you get to Woodbridge and the 313 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 2: parkway goes over the over the Reard Bay, Reard and River. Okay, 314 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 2: right next, right next to the parkway is Root one 315 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 2: and nine. When there's traffic on the parkway, you go 316 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 2: Route one and nine. All right, that's the bypass. So 317 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 2: when there's a restriction, electricity takes the easiest path. It 318 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 2: takes the path of least resistance. So voltage drop is 319 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 2: a very bad term. I don't like the term voltage drop. 320 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 2: It confuses people. I like the term voltage bypass. So 321 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 2: what we want to do is under duress. We'd like 322 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 2: to see I'd love to see a twelve vault headlight 323 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 2: using one leg of ground as the ground for whatever 324 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 2: we're testing, and then the other side going to hot 325 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 2: and if it glows is bright under duress with one 326 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 2: as it does under the other, Hey, great, then I 327 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 2: got a good ground. That's a vaulted drop. I mean 328 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 2: you could put a meter on it also and measure 329 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 2: it with a digital meter if you go to if 330 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 2: you go to YouTube University and just type in voltage 331 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 2: drop testing, you'll come up with about forty thousand different 332 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 2: ways to do it. But understanding the concept of what 333 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 2: you're doing voltage drop testing is so important, all right. 334 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 6: So it's like having an intermitt in voltage drop because 335 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 6: then it started up and raising. 336 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 2: Sure it could be, sure could be. Especially listen, I 337 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 2: remember thirty years ago when these trucks were only twenty 338 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 2: years old, all right, And I say it like that 339 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 2: because we're talking about a forty six almost forty seven 340 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 2: year old vehicle. All Right. We've got to just be 341 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 2: mindfully aware of corroded components. And you know, I just 342 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 2: want to do a vaulted drop test. Hey it's good, good, 343 00:16:56,760 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 2: check it off, check the box and move on, right, Okay, Yeah, 344 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:05,159 Speaker 2: the other thing that was more common with these in 345 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:10,160 Speaker 2: terms of failure was if you take the distributor cap off. 346 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 2: I did that, okay, and you looked at it. Is 347 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 2: there any oil on the inside of the distributor? No, 348 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 2: all right, And this distributor has this distributor has two 349 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 2: pigtail leads leading out of it. Yeah, right, no ignition 350 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:31,399 Speaker 2: module on the distributor. Sit tight, all right, Sit tight, Jamie, 351 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 2: don't go anywhere. I'll come back. We'll finish up, and 352 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 2: then we'll get on to Greg and New York. I 353 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:37,959 Speaker 2: appreciate everybody's patience today. Just a lot of little tedious 354 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 2: things we got to talk about. I'm ronning Andy and 355 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 2: the car doctor. We'll be back right after this at 356 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 2: eight five five five six zero nine nine zero zero. 357 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 2: Don't go anywhere. Let's go back to Jamie and Iowa. Jamie, 358 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 2: you're still there. Yeah, I was thinking about this car. 359 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 2: There's a black wire coming off the ignition module, correct, Yeah, 360 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 2: that goes to ground. I want you to voltage drop 361 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 2: test that or if you have any doubts, tap into 362 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 2: that and run on an auxiliary ground to them right 363 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 2: to the negative battery post and then just make sure 364 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 2: there should be a body ground coming off the negative 365 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 2: battery post that goes to the body or the frame. 366 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 2: Do you see all that? Is that still intact? 367 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:16,640 Speaker 3: Yeah? 368 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay, all right, just just to be sure 369 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:22,919 Speaker 2: because that's typically where the ground issues become. Look, you know, 370 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 2: this could just flat out be a bad ignition module, 371 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 2: and then the problem becomes getting a good one. Right, 372 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 2: because it's forty five years old, and it got to 373 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 2: the point in eighty two when you were working on 374 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:39,120 Speaker 2: these there was there were limited methods of testing them. 375 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:43,919 Speaker 2: Then that this was the originator in my mind of 376 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 2: swapping hope, right, it was substitute known good part. So 377 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:51,360 Speaker 2: this very well could be. Is it that the vehicle 378 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:55,880 Speaker 2: sits for a length of time and then it restarts 379 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 2: and what's that? 380 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 5: No, just it'll start up right away, just like I'd 381 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 5: go around. 382 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 6: The block and go perfectly fine, and you know I 383 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 6: want I like it a mile or so, and then 384 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 6: when I got in front of a house, practically it 385 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 6: just all said dried. When I cranked it over, it 386 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 6: cranked a little bit and it would start. Then I 387 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:17,679 Speaker 6: turn it off and started it again, start up and 388 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 6: go right up in the driveway. 389 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 2: Right, So you've got an intermittent, random, it sounds like 390 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:23,159 Speaker 2: something is getting hot. The other thing is do you 391 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 2: have a hair dryer in the house, Oh yeah, portable 392 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:26,679 Speaker 2: hair dryer. 393 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 7: Yeah. 394 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:29,199 Speaker 5: Heat yeah, if it. 395 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:30,919 Speaker 2: Were a heat gun, if you if you heat the 396 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 2: ignition module or or in the other common then other 397 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 2: common thing that nobody really thinks about or thought about 398 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 2: even then forty years ago, was the pickup coil the 399 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:44,640 Speaker 2: piece inside the distributor. They were they were not uncommon 400 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 2: to fail also but again limited limited simple ways to 401 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 2: test it would take a labscope and to look to 402 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:55,640 Speaker 2: look at it and look at a wave and see 403 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 2: what the voltage is doing. You know, but there's but 404 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 2: there's no oil inside the distributor, right, it's bone dry. 405 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:07,159 Speaker 5: No, there's no way I looked at it. So is 406 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 5: a way like on the old with the point they 407 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:15,159 Speaker 5: would replace the distributor with one of those electronic ignitions 408 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:15,399 Speaker 5: in it. 409 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 2: Well, you have a distributor with electronic ignition. Do you 410 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:20,159 Speaker 2: want to put a different system in? Is that what 411 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 2: you're asking? 412 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:21,400 Speaker 4: Well? 413 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 5: Is that a way I could eliminate the duras spark? 414 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 2: You could? Or but before you do that, this is 415 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 2: a this is a carburetor. This is an EKE to vehicle, 416 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 2: is it not? 417 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's gotta yeah, just a little two. 418 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,439 Speaker 2: Barrel on it, right, But there's some electronic elements to 419 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 2: this vehicle. I'd have to honestly, I'd have to look 420 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 2: back at the wiring and see what this is. I 421 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 2: think this is either EKE one or EKE too, and 422 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 2: I want to see what the computer. I want to 423 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 2: see what the computer authority is on this. You know, Frankly, 424 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 2: if I can still find a Duraspark module and to 425 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,919 Speaker 2: pick up oil, I can get him right. Well, but 426 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 2: what's what's the quality and what's the brand? 427 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 5: Well, they were standard brand. 428 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:10,400 Speaker 2: I would have no problem with the standard module absolutely. 429 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 2: If you could find a standard module for this what 430 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 2: is it fifty bucks? 431 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, they were like seventy dollars, sixty eight dollars right change. 432 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:22,159 Speaker 2: Yep, I have no problem with a standard module. To 433 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 2: tell you the truth, I know the engineer that designed 434 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 2: that standard module back in seventy nine, Doug. His first 435 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:30,719 Speaker 2: name was Doug. I can't think of his last name. 436 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 2: I haven't talked to him in thirty years, but I 437 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 2: was I was actually involved with the testing of those 438 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 2: modules out of the Long Island facility or the facility 439 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:42,360 Speaker 2: in Long Island City forty years ago. 440 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 5: Would you say, if I do the voltage drop test, if. 441 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 2: You do the voltae drop test, when you're having the 442 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,879 Speaker 2: problem and it passes, and you've got good ground at 443 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 2: the module and you still have no spark, and you've 444 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 2: got you've got positive you've got twelve volts at the 445 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 2: ignition coil, and then crank it and it maintains better 446 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 2: than ten and a half vaults. I say you've got 447 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 2: a problem on the trigger side, and I'm going to 448 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,400 Speaker 2: tell you to look very closely at the ignition module 449 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 2: and the pickup coil, all right, And the pickup coil, 450 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:14,879 Speaker 2: like I said, unless you have a labscope, is a 451 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 2: little bit more difficult to test. But replacement requires some 452 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 2: special tooling to press it on and off to get 453 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 2: the shaft out. So process of elimination on the older 454 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 2: vehicle and eliminating known good or known bad trying a 455 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 2: module is a whole lot easier. So okay, all right, 456 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 2: but look at all the grounds, all right, and then 457 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 2: go from there. All right, kiddo, thank you, You're very welcome. 458 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:40,479 Speaker 2: You keep me posted. Let's go to Greg Upstate, New York. 459 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:42,360 Speaker 2: I'm sorry to keep you waiting, Greg, I wanted to 460 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 2: make sure I covered the bases with with Jamie. So 461 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 2: how can I help sir? 462 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 4: Hello. 463 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:50,679 Speaker 7: Let's see, I was listening to your show about an 464 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:51,120 Speaker 7: hour ago. 465 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,119 Speaker 4: You had a guy with a BMW. 466 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 2: Right Brad from Florida. 467 00:22:55,160 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 7: Yeah, Florida strip tramloads right, yep, yep. So I have 468 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:05,400 Speaker 7: a friend that's the number one mechanic in Sacramento, California 469 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:10,400 Speaker 7: area who does BMW's Maseratis, Lamborghinis and all that, right, 470 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 7: and I asked him about it. You said, there is 471 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 7: a Tula coil kit available from BMW Right. 472 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's and that's what I suggested, you know, 473 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 2: it's it's not an uncommon I'm not sure why the 474 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 2: dealer is telling him you've got to take the engine 475 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 2: out six to eight thousand dollars. Either it's either it's 476 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 2: lack of knowledge or there's actually a bulletin that talks 477 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 2: about it. And BMW has actually come out with a 478 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 2: special service tool that allows even in tight fits depending 479 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 2: upon body style and configuration, that you can, you know, 480 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 2: cut the threads in the oil pen instead of having 481 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 2: to pull the engine out. 482 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 7: So yeah, you know, it's definitely a thing. 483 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 2: Yea, yeah, it happens. 484 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 7: It can be done in one day. 485 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's it's well and you know, the bulletin 486 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 2: is dated twenty eighteen talks about the issue. Partly is 487 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,360 Speaker 2: because it's only a twelve millimeter plug. It's soft aluminumreds, 488 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,120 Speaker 2: you know, and it also stems and goes back in here. 489 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,159 Speaker 2: I'm going to get on the drum and bang the 490 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 2: drum Greg about you know, when you do an oil 491 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 2: change on a lot of these vehicles, you need to 492 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 2: change the drain plug gasket if the vehicle is so equipped. 493 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 2: But everybody wants to be jerky les and just pull 494 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 2: on the chain so hard. They are pulling the wrench 495 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 2: so hard that it just you know, crushes the gasket 496 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 2: and you know, pulls the threads and it becomes an issue. 497 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 2: So you know, it's just it's just a problem. Yep, 498 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,679 Speaker 2: that's very much aware, sir. Hey, listen, I appreciate you 499 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,120 Speaker 2: taking the time. Most people, you know, I don't think 500 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:35,959 Speaker 2: a lot of people would take the time to research 501 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 2: it and give us a call and try and help, 502 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 2: So kudos to you, brother. 503 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 4: All Right, the phone call, so yep. 504 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:44,679 Speaker 2: Listen, it's all we can do is be kind to 505 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 2: each other and try to help. And that's the whole 506 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 2: point of this radio show most days. All right, Kitto, 507 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 2: you'll be well. Thank you so much. You have a 508 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,919 Speaker 2: great rest of the weekend. Eight five five five six 509 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 2: zero nine nine zero zero. I'm running any in the 510 00:24:56,320 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 2: car Doctor. I'll be back right after this. Welcome back. 511 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 2: By the way, a couple additions to the YouTube channel 512 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:05,879 Speaker 2: this week. Get out to ron An Innie and the 513 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 2: Car Doctor. Look us up on YouTube, and of course 514 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 2: always just to make a mention, and I get questions 515 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 2: and people ask about it. If you go out to 516 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 2: the website cardoctorshow dot com, you will find under the 517 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,880 Speaker 2: merchandise button, yes, hats, t shirts and all the rest 518 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 2: of the great stuff is still there. So by all means, 519 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 2: feel free help yourself. Let's go out to Ben and 520 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 2: Tennessee ninety nine one fifty and some heat and AC problems. 521 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 2: A lot of heat and AC problems today. I guess, uh, 522 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 2: the weather change or something. I'm not sure. Ben, ron 523 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,120 Speaker 2: An Inian at your service, sir, How can I help? 524 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:40,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks for taking my call. You're welcome. We're having 525 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,439 Speaker 4: an issue with the van. When we start to go 526 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:49,159 Speaker 4: up hills. It was not about six months ago. But 527 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 4: anytime we get just a gradual hell, the AC or 528 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 4: the heat will kick out, and then when we go 529 00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:01,120 Speaker 4: back down to hell, it's it kicks back on it. 530 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,880 Speaker 4: But we're we're turning it off because we don't want 531 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 4: to burn up the unit, you know, we don't. 532 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 2: Is it is it that the unit turns off or 533 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 2: the airflow changes position. 534 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 4: We're we're also getting a noise when we when after 535 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 4: we go back down a hill or get on flat land, 536 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 4: the under our passenger side, under the floorboard there it 537 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 4: starts to do like a compression noise, almost like a 538 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 4: like a diaphragm or filling up it. 539 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 2: Almost it almost been. It almost sounds like you've got 540 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 2: a problem with door position. If when you say no heat, 541 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 2: no AC, you're talking no air coming out of like 542 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 2: for example, if you've got to set to a C 543 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 2: and the air should be coming out the center events, 544 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 2: you're saying it it doesn't come out from the center events. 545 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 2: If you if you're if you're going uphill and you're 546 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 2: putting your foot in it. 547 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's either way. Yeah. I thought it was 548 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 4: the AC at first, and we did like we put 549 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 4: some you know, some fluid in it. 550 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 2: I forget the word, right, yeah, no refrigerate no, but 551 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:12,120 Speaker 2: but hear me out. My question is you know when 552 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 2: you lose when you lose airflow at the center vents, 553 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,199 Speaker 2: do you still have airflow at the defrost position or 554 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 2: on the floor. 555 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,199 Speaker 4: Uh no, it completely goes out, all of it. 556 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 2: Okay, all gone. So the blower physically stops, right, But 557 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 2: have you checked to see if you have air coming 558 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 2: out of the ducks at the defroster or at the floor. 559 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 4: Uh yeah, yeah, we h. I'll put my hand in 560 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 4: it there and nothing comes out. And then it'll do 561 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:41,159 Speaker 4: like I'll release almost like like you're holding your breath 562 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 4: and then somebody ex house that's what it feels like, 563 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 4: and it'll it'll take about ten seconds when you go 564 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 4: down the hill and then it'll just go then release 565 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 4: and then. 566 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 2: Okay, if you're if you're if you're going down the 567 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 2: hill and you take your foot off the gas. 568 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,199 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's uh so you go up the hill and 569 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:03,640 Speaker 4: it just everything cuts out. 570 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 2: Okay, if you're going downhill and you take your foot 571 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 2: off the gas and coast in neutral, does it all 572 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 2: come back? 573 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 4: It all comes back Okay. 574 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:16,199 Speaker 2: You've got a vacuum problem. You It sounds this sounds 575 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 2: like a vacuum problem. The classic the vacuum reservoir tank 576 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 2: is either is either ruptured, broken or the host fell 577 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:28,120 Speaker 2: off that supply that feeds supply. All right, so we've 578 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 2: got to look at that. It sounds like there's just 579 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 2: a good size hole in that and you're just not 580 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 2: getting enough airflow to control the doors in the proper position. 581 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 2: That would be that would be the first step. All right, 582 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 2: you know that that would not be uncommon. Could we 583 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 2: have an actuat or issue door position, door blend issue position? Sure, 584 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 2: but you know, let's go with let's go with simple first. 585 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 2: Has it had any recent work? Has anybody worked on 586 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 2: this recently? 587 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 4: Yeah? I did. I did a tune up on it myself. 588 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 4: Uh yeah, uh spark plugs and wires about eight months ago, 589 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 4: eight nine months ago. 590 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 2: And did the problem happen right after that or has 591 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 2: it been a while? 592 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 4: It was? Yeah, right right around that time. I didn't 593 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 4: think I was touching any of the hoses, but I 594 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 4: probably I might have when I pulled one of the wires. 595 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 4: I could have. 596 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 2: Okay, because of the vacuum tubing, for that if I'm 597 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 2: if memory serves me correct, comes down around the passenger 598 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 2: side corner of the engine and then feeds into under 599 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 2: the dash to feed the canister which is attached to 600 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 2: it just under the passenger side portion of the dashboard. 601 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 4: Okay, right, okay, so. 602 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 2: I would be paying attention there. It will. It will 603 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 2: confuse you because they actually feed manifold vacuum to those reservoirs. 604 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 2: But that's just the way they are. They're just trying 605 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 2: to get mass maximum vacuum apply to that if they can. 606 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 2: But I would go back and look at those hoses. 607 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 2: Did you somehow break something not realizing it? Do you 608 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 2: have a vacuum leak of some magnitude affecting door operation? 609 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 2: And if not, just make sure that the door for 610 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 2: the system where the doors and the vacuums apply line 611 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 2: is intact doing what it's supposed to do. But that's 612 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 2: where I think you're headed for this, all right. 613 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 4: I appreciate it that that narrows it down, because I 614 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 4: was going to pull the whole No. 615 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 2: No, no, no no, let's let's go back and try and 616 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 2: be sequential, all right, Kittle, you call me back if. 617 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 4: You need more, Okay, I appreciate it that. 618 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 2: You're very welcome. You're very welcome, ben A five five, 619 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 2: five six zero nine nine zero zero. We'll be back 620 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:36,959 Speaker 2: to wrap it up right after this. I want to 621 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 2: finish out the hour today and talk about the the 622 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 2: massive amounts of misinformation that's out there in the world 623 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 2: of water repair. Some of it's perpetuated by the repair 624 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 2: shops that I think are wrong. Some of it is 625 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 2: perpetuated by the Internet Library, the University of the Internet, 626 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 2: and some of the conversations that people have and talking 627 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 2: about the way procedures are done in proper SSSS are done. 628 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 2: There's a lot of engineering that goes into a modern car. 629 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 2: And if you find somebody saying, well, that's not how 630 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 2: we used to do it on my dad's car, which 631 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 2: was thirty years ago, you know, it's a bad example. 632 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 2: Because there are some places where the laws of physics 633 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 2: are the same, but you know what, on a modern vehicle, 634 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 2: the laws of physics have changed the game, and just 635 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 2: in the way we approach repair, just in the way 636 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 2: we approach maintenance, just in the way that we think 637 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 2: about it, and these these misnomers that are out there 638 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 2: on the Internet, where people start and I think they 639 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 2: just want to be heard and they don't know what 640 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 2: they're talking about, and they start talking about oil change intervals, 641 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 2: entire rotation time and why repair shop does this or that. 642 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 2: I think they're wrong, and I think the proof is 643 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 2: in the putting. I think it's you know, what's the 644 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 2: longevity of the vehicle, And I think that's the bigger 645 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 2: picture and that's really what it's all about. So I 646 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 2: want to just plant that seat in your head. Maintenance 647 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 2: is still the single most important thing you can do 648 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 2: to a vehicle to keep it running longer. It really is. 649 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 2: It kind of comes back to that. I've gotten a 650 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 2: couple of emails of the last two or three weeks 651 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 2: of people looking at different cars, and I want to 652 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 2: just comment on that I see without commenting to any 653 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 2: specific one, but just the four that I've gotten on 654 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 2: my desk in front of me. Some of them talk 655 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 2: about they want to buy a Toyota Hybrid or a 656 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 2: Kia Hybrid. Which hybrid should we buy one? Fella says, 657 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 2: you know they both fit as extremely well. We're of 658 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 2: this age. We're not quite sure. You know, what are 659 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 2: your thoughts? I think you're still buying a car. Company 660 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 2: and I think the difference between buying a Toyota or 661 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 2: a Kia. If those are my two choices, I'm probably 662 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 2: going to lean towards the Toyota. I think the Key 663 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 2: is a great five to six year vehicle. I just 664 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:52,479 Speaker 2: haven't seen Kiya Hyundai because I lump them both together 665 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 2: evolve into the same state where they're better than that. 666 00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 2: They're a five year vehicle, six year vehicle, and a 667 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 2: real one. But then they just seem to fall apart. 668 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 2: They don't seem to hold up. If my choice is 669 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 2: Keye Hunda for a hybrid or Toyota for a hybrid, 670 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 2: I've got to think the Toyota's got to win hands 671 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 2: down every time, because I think the engineering is better. 672 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 2: I think the quality control I'd have to give them 673 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 2: not to Toyota, And I think it becomes a case 674 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:20,239 Speaker 2: of you're buying again the culture of repair. What does 675 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 2: that company say it's going to take to maintain that 676 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 2: car and keep it on the road? Now, first and foremost, absolute, 677 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 2: first and foremost. When you're looking at cars, what's Ron's rule? 678 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 2: Drive it during the day, drive it at night? Are 679 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 2: all the buttons in the right place? Does everything have 680 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 2: a good tactile feel to it. Can you find what 681 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 2: you're looking for fairly easy? It's really that important. And 682 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 2: you know, those are the things you have to look for, 683 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 2: and those are the things you have to keep in 684 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 2: mind because you're going to have this car for five 685 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 2: or six, seven or eight or nine or ten years 686 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 2: till the next time. I'm ronnin Andy and the car Doctor. 687 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 2: The mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. See you