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Speaker 2: It's Baseball Hall of Fame Induction Day.

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Speaker 1: John Paul Morosi will join us later on in the

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Speaker 1: show live from Cooperstown, so that'll be coming up later

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Speaker 1: on the show V Day.

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Speaker 2: We have a Holt split it.

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Speaker 1: This way, one, two, three, four, four days until the

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Speaker 1: first NFL preseason game, we are gonna get knee deep

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Speaker 1: into the NFL training camps are buzzing right now. By

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Speaker 1: the way, we got to get to a little overplay

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Speaker 1: just out of every NFL camp as far as a

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Speaker 1: like the end of the world.

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Speaker 2: We got it, we got it. We gotta know, we

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Speaker 2: gotta know, we gotta know.

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Speaker 1: Until you have a definitive answer, guy has season entering surgery, boom,

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Speaker 1: All right, that's a story. But if a guy throws

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Speaker 1: he's going to be terrible this year, do not overplay

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Speaker 1: what's happening in these training camps right now. So we

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Speaker 1: got into the NFL, I do want to play it

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Speaker 1: all came something like, I've been guilty and no one's

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Speaker 2: But anyway, I love that I do that.

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Speaker 1: Before we get to all that, though, we really had

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Speaker 1: a couple of big passings this week. You know, Ozzy

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Speaker 1: The sort of a farewell performance with his bandmates there

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Speaker 1: to see Ozzy in concert in his heyday of his

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Speaker 2: When you are when you are above.

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Speaker 1: We talked about this, you know, with a with a

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Speaker 1: We've even talked about it with Caitlin Clark. When your

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Speaker 1: I mean, when you think of Paranoid when it came out,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you can make arguments about the Rock. You

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Speaker 1: of brun or Sam Martino. There is no bigger star

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Speaker 1: in the history of wrestling, not even close to Hulk Hogan.

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Speaker 1: Hulk Hogan's star power in the world of wrestling far

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Speaker 1: And he passes away unexpectedly. We saw him strong at

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Speaker 1: And I'm a little torn because you know, I met

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Speaker 2: Obviously he's promoting a new show and everything else.

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Speaker 1: You know, did have did this guy have a positive

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Speaker 3: Well, first of all, my prayers and condolences to all

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Speaker 2: They both won money in the bank, so.

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Speaker 3: Like, he's still a dad, right right, He's still someone's father,

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Speaker 3: forget the father that I am, forget the stay up commie,

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Speaker 3: and I've been just the kind human being. Just all

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Speaker 3: the mistakes I made coming back, personal training and acting, music,

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Speaker 3: all the times I've headline nightclubs and made people laugh

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Speaker 3: sitting out there. Rob Parker included, it's come to show, Chris.

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Speaker 3: We saw Martin whis say, come and watch me do this.

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Speaker 3: I would hate for just all of that to go

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Speaker 2: It was what it was. He said what he said,

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Speaker 3: But if we did that with everybody, we can go

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Speaker 2: We can start naming them all day long.

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Speaker 3: Did we pick and choose who we want to remember,

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Speaker 3: olk Hogan is. Could you name another entertainer who literally

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Speaker 3: Of those guys, none of the iron Chic Nikita Koloff,

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Speaker 3: We would have none of those guys if not for Terry,

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Speaker 3: He's the reason why we say twenty four inch pythons.

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Speaker 2: He's the reason why we flex a certain way.

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Speaker 3: He's the reason why the great Richard Covido put up

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Speaker 2: A trend setter, and when you're a trend setter and.

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Speaker 3: You're a legend like that, I know we all make mistakes,

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Speaker 3: but I'm going to choose, and I do this with everybody,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna choose to remember the major impact you had

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Speaker 3: of the world. You had a bad moment, but that

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Speaker 3: you gotta make that up with somebody else. Now you

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Speaker 3: don't have to make that up with me. That's got

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Speaker 3: nothing to do with me. I can like or dislike it.

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Speaker 3: I didn't like what he said, but I understand that

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Speaker 3: he's not the only person in his industry that probably

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Speaker 2: Felt that way.

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Speaker 3: He's the guy that got caught second bottom line. But

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Speaker 3: his impact of you know what, you know, saying your prayers,

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Speaker 3: like he he is the icon of icons.

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Speaker 2: And I agree with you.

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Speaker 3: At one point, I truly believe Hulk Hogan was probably

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Speaker 2: Most recognized in the world. Ever, the Hulk stirs.

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Speaker 3: He's the reason why you say something made like he

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Speaker 3: remember he's the reason why I got into wrestling, and

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Speaker 3: I hated him. When I got into wrestling, I was

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Speaker 2: Where your rowdy Roddy Piper, that was my guy, Are

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Speaker 3: Rowdy Roddy Piper with the coconut up beside the head,

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Speaker 3: It's the biggest moment in wrestling. So he was the

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Speaker 3: biggest guy that had the biggest moments. Andre the Giant

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Speaker 3: in the sky. Don't slamm in him, ultimate warrior wrestleman.

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Speaker 2: Like Hogan's name. Guys, Let's just remember the impact he

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Speaker 3: And I think he impacted millions and millions of people, man,

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Speaker 3: And you know our pizza them.

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Speaker 2: Straight up absolutely.

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Speaker 1: I mean again, this a very similar thing happened when

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Speaker 1: is just none of us are perfect, right, And if

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Speaker 3: And that's what and that's what you got to deal with.

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Speaker 3: That's what you have to report to at the end.

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Speaker 3: Of the day when you get called somewhere, when you

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Speaker 3: leave here, you don't owe anybody here. We can sit

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Speaker 3: I don't like speaking ill of the dead. I've always

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Speaker 3: kind of looked down on that. Well, so the guy's gone.

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Speaker 1: When we talk about legacy, you know, again, everyone views

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Speaker 1: You know again, I found this out, you know when

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Speaker 3: July sixth, Let your guys have that one last family holiday,

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Speaker 2: We don't even get Look, VJ, you remember how this

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Speaker 1: So you're gonna have twenty weeks to sell the networks.

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Speaker 1: The preseason is gonna go bye bye, no more preseason games.

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Speaker 2: However, I'm fine with that. I'm fine with it.

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Speaker 1: You five would talk to the coach as they say, look,

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Speaker 1: What is it you want to work on, We'll work

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Speaker 1: with you, and so these are the things that we

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Speaker 1: specifically need to work on. The controlled scrimmages are gonna

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Speaker 1: get far more out of that than these preseason games are.

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Speaker 2: You're throwing guys out.

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Speaker 1: There, they're not even gonna be on your team, and

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Speaker 1: you're charging fans full price for those tickets. It's absolute

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Speaker 1: robbery out there. So that's eventually where it's going to

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Speaker 1: go with the preseason.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 3: I got to say something about the eighteen games. I

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Speaker 3: think you misspoke. I think you meant when they go

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Speaker 3: to twenty games, well down the road. No, but they're

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Speaker 3: gonna go antl and the next four years. Yeah, in

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Speaker 3: the next four years, they will eliminate preseason, yes, and

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Speaker 3: they will play twenty regular season goal.

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Speaker 2: Well, they're not going for seventeen to twenty. They'll go

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Speaker 2: seventeen eighty I'm just saying within four years. I'm just

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Speaker 2: saying within four years.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, But once they introduce that second by week,

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Speaker 1: they'll also expand the rosters. Expand the roster sixty five,

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Speaker 1: I mean the players Association, even though they're completely screwed up.

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Speaker 3: Right now, what do you like players? I like sixty

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Speaker 3: to sixty five fifty three. Now you gotta give you

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Speaker 3: gotta give at least ten again if you're gonna continue

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Speaker 3: to expand the schedule. Yes, you got to give ten

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Speaker 3: extra guys, at least sixty I mean.

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Speaker 2: You got ten guys on your practice squad.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so seventy three guys total. Come on, twenty games.

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Speaker 3: We're giving it to you. You know, we're giving you

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Speaker 3: guys what you want. But yeah, what's more?

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Speaker 4: Guy?

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Speaker 2: Let me ask you this. Are you gonna activate more players? Yes?

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Speaker 3: I think you should be to activate five more guys,

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Speaker 3: five more activations. On a Sunday, sixty three people, ten

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Speaker 3: packed and you know what, twelve practice squad players. Why

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Speaker 3: not give more guys an opportunity to make their dreams

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Speaker 3: come true?

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Speaker 2: There's no reason. I mean, you got again, you have

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Speaker 2: the UFL.

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Speaker 1: They got players out there, right I'm not saying that

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Speaker 1: it's a true professional well first, but the pack is

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Speaker 1: there are players out there I know, you know, and

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Speaker 1: get some of those guys shot. Look at There was

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Speaker 1: a guy named Kurt Warner who spent three years in

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Speaker 1: arena football that no one ever heard of, and the

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Speaker 1: guy ended up in the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 3: So he helps to play the next side of Marshall

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Speaker 3: fall Katy Hall in Isaiah.

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Speaker 1: You know what the thing about Kurt Warner was he

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Speaker 1: was one of the most accurate passers the game has

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Speaker 1: ever seen. And he said, and I did many interviews

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Speaker 1: with Kurt over the years, he said, the great thing

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Speaker 1: about playing arena football is that the passing lanes are

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Speaker 1: so narrow because you're indoors in a confined area that

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Speaker 1: when I got actually back out on the field, everybody

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Speaker 1: look wide open.

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Speaker 3: We've never had a Kurt Warner discussion, so this is

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Speaker 3: the first time you've ever heard this from me. But

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Speaker 3: I've been on this for like fifteen years. Kurt Warner

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Speaker 3: is one of the most overrated quarterbacks I've ever seen.

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Speaker 2: The absolutely not. It's not his postseason numbers. You want overrated.

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson's overrated three and five in the postseason.

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Speaker 2: Allow to have that opinion. I can't really demand.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I'll get over Warner's career, which by the way, did

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Speaker 1: not start until he was twenty seven years old.

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Speaker 2: I get it, so he had a late start to

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Speaker 2: his career.

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Speaker 1: But when you look at his postseason number, up with

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Speaker 1: it this way, the guy.

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Speaker 3: Had Hall of fame. How about this with the Giants

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Speaker 3: into the Giants side, he.

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Speaker 2: Has one receiver in the Hall of Fame. His name

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Speaker 2: is Isaac Bruce.

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Speaker 1: He has another Tory Holts, not in the Hall of Fame. No, no, no,

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Speaker 1: And Larry Fitzgerald's going to the Hall of Fame. By

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Speaker 1: the way, Matt Liner couldn't seem to find Larry.

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Speaker 2: Not going to the Hall of Fame eventually, Well.

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Speaker 1: I hope he does.

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Speaker 2: Bottom line is.

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Speaker 1: Bottom line is his numbers speak for themselves, and it

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Speaker 1: was a relatively short career. But remember this, in the

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Speaker 1: first fifty Super bowls, okay one through fifty, that's one

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Speaker 1: hundred starting quarterbacks, right, first fifty Super Bowls. Through the

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Speaker 1: first fifty Super bowls, most passing yards in a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Number one Kurt Warner, Number two, Kurt Warner number three.

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Speaker 2: Kurt Warner. That's right.

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Speaker 1: His three super bowls were one, two, three in the

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Speaker 1: first fifty super Bowl record.

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Speaker 3: Well, now Brady is broken about it all. His record,

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Speaker 3: his win low super Bowl record is.

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Speaker 2: One and two and that's his fault.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he had a miracle catch for the Steelers

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Speaker 1: to beat him when he could have won a super

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Speaker 1: Bowl with a freaking Arizona Cardinals. And then again Tom

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Speaker 1: Brady and the butchered Mike Martz. No, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: don't go there.

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Speaker 2: I'll be a defender. That's fine. I love it. I

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Speaker 2: love this. We've never talked Kurt Warner ever. I didn't

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Speaker 2: know you feel way about it. I do.

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Speaker 1: I feel because I don't think you can tell the

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Speaker 1: history of the NFL without talking about the Kurt Warner store,

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Speaker 1: which is one of the most unmilliable stories in the

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Speaker 1: history of the NFL. But that aside, let's find out

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Speaker 1: what is.

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Speaker 2: Trendy right now, Monze Moncey.

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Speaker 1: Do you have any opinion at all about the football

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Speaker 1: career of Kurt Warner.

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Speaker 2: I did not think so, not at all, not at all.

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Speaker 7: I like that, not even a little bit. All right, guys,

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Speaker 7: but I do have NFL news for you. How about that.

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Speaker 7: We'll start with the chart, because they just agreed with

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Speaker 7: left tackle Rashaan Slater on a four year, one hundred

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Speaker 7: and fourteen million dollar extension. It includes a record ninety

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Speaker 7: two million guaranteed, now making him the highest paid offensive

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Speaker 7: lineman in NFL history. So good for Chargers.

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Speaker 1: He's got to stay healthy, though, he does stay for everybody.

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Speaker 7: You could say that literally about everybody else.

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Speaker 1: I've never seen to get hurt. He's had a few injuries.

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Speaker 7: You're right that some people are more prone. I you're

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Speaker 7: right about that, but it is now with everyone anyone.

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Speaker 2: It's he plays hard too, man.

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Speaker 3: He plays yes, and you know a smart.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, absolutely absolutely.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 7: Cowboys tight end Jack Ferguson has agreed to a four year,

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Speaker 7: fifty two million dollar extension. Dolphin safety mikeup Fitzpatrick has

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Speaker 7: agreed to a revised contract, adding a sixteen million dollars

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Speaker 7: signing bonus to his deal. They're still negotiating a multi

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Speaker 7: year contract extension. Commander Star receiver Terry McLaurin reported to

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Speaker 7: camp today, ending his holdout without a contract extension, who

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Speaker 7: was also placed on the physically unable to perform list

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Speaker 7: due to an ankle injury in the NBA. Chicago Bulls

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Speaker 7: head coach Billy Donovan has signed a multi year contract extension.

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Speaker 7: In baseball, O'Neil Cruz is really fast, guys. In case

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Speaker 7: you didn't know, he scored from first base on a

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Speaker 7: Tommy fam single and he just added an RBI single.

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Speaker 7: So the Pirates are up on the Diamondbacks three zero.

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Speaker 7: Top of the fourth inning. Orioles are edging the Rockies

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Speaker 7: two to one. Top of the third. Trevor Story with

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Speaker 7: the sackfly puts the Boston Red Sox on the scoreboard

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Speaker 7: first against the Dodgers at home. One zero after the

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Speaker 7: first inning, and the Yankees were up not anymore. It

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Speaker 7: looks like wait, Phillies were up not anymore. A Yankees

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Speaker 7: have tied the game. And it was not an Aaron

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Speaker 7: Judge home run since we know he's on the il.

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Speaker 7: It is two to two in New York. Bottom of

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Speaker 7: the second inning, Reds up on the raise two zero.

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Speaker 7: Bottom of the third. The Tigers, who have struggled lately

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Speaker 7: have lost six in a row, are on the scoreboard

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Speaker 7: first thanks to a three run shot from Glabor Torres.

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Speaker 7: They're beating the Blue Jays three zero top of the

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Speaker 7: fourth comes off on the White Sox to one top

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Speaker 7: of the second inning, and it's the Padres who are

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Speaker 7: beating the Cardinals in Saint Louis right now to zero

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Speaker 7: after the first inning.

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Speaker 8: Back to you guys, Hi MONSI thank you very much,

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Speaker 8: seaw Harvin and Husky here Fox Sports, Sonny and the

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Speaker 8: Fox Sports Radio studios certainly makes sense of Billy Donovan,

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Speaker 8: who's had four losing seasons in five years with the Bulls,

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Speaker 8: should get a contract extension.

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Speaker 2: He's had three straight losing seasons. Four of the five.

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Speaker 1: Years he's been with the Bulls, he's had a losing season.

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Speaker 1: Only once has he made the playoffs. And he gets

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Speaker 1: an extension.

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Speaker 3: He knows something about somebody. I'm sorry, he knows some secret, bro.

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Speaker 3: There's just no way you could tell me, Billy donovd.

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Speaker 3: When Monci just read that over to Live Eric doing

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Speaker 3: her update, I looked at Steven Taptam.

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Speaker 2: We took our headsets all about that.

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Speaker 3: How the belief does Billy Donovan get a contract extension

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Speaker 3: with the Bulls.

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Speaker 2: What have they done?

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Speaker 3: Have they even mattered to the NBA since Derek Rose?

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Speaker 1: How about this over the last three years forty and

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Speaker 1: forty two, thirty nine and forty three, thirty nine and

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Speaker 1: forty three, middle of the playoffs, under five team, no playoffs,

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Speaker 1: playing in the Week East.

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Speaker 3: You got, guys, that's winning NBA championships. Getting fired, Think

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Speaker 3: about it.

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Speaker 1: You missed the playoffs playing in the weak Eastern Conference

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Speaker 1: straight years.

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Speaker 2: Congratulations on the contract extension.

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Speaker 1: All right, I want to start talking about fact versus

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Speaker 1: fiction in the NFL training camps. One of the big

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Speaker 1: stories early on is Caleb Williams struggling with Ben Johnson's

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Speaker 1: offense early in training camp.

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Speaker 2: So those that are quick.

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Speaker 1: To decide the fate of the Bears with Kaylin Williams

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Speaker 1: are saying, this guy is a colossal bust. Jayden Daniels

628
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Speaker 1: should have been the number one overall picked by the Bears.

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Speaker 1: The commanders are reaping the benefits having taken a vastly

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Speaker 1: superior talent in Jayden Daniels and Caleb Williams will prove

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Speaker 1: to be an absolute bust in the NFL. Factor fiction.

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Speaker 1: What we are seeing in these early struggles as he

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Speaker 1: tries to grasp, by the way, an entirely new offensive

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Speaker 1: system being introduced by Ben Johnson, who, by the Way

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Speaker 1: is also trying to figure out what kind of head

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Speaker 1: coach he's going to be because he's never been a

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Speaker 1: head coach before.

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Speaker 2: Factor of fiction.

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Speaker 1: This has been a bad marriage, and Caleb Williams will

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Speaker 1: prove that. Indeed, whatever we saw at the collegiate level

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Speaker 1: is not going to translate in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: No, that's fact.

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Speaker 3: But that was my opinion on him coming out of USC.

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Speaker 3: If you put on that last season of tape at USC,

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Speaker 3: there's four bad games.

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Speaker 2: Four.

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Speaker 3: When a quarterback has four bad games in his last

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Speaker 3: year in college, you can't tell me he's generational, Like

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Speaker 3: I'm not hearing that.

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Speaker 2: You can speak that.

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Speaker 3: I know it's popular because Pat Mahomes runs around and

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Speaker 3: does a lot of magical type stuff. So anytime someone

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Speaker 3: can throw off balance or throw side arm or make

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Speaker 3: these run around plays, he's the first name we compare

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Speaker 3: him to.

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Speaker 2: But I think that's a.

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Speaker 3: Disservice and a disrespect to Patrick Mahomes because none of

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Speaker 3: those guys are going to be Patrick Mahomes. They'll be

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Speaker 3: good in their own right, but they're not gonna be him.

660
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 3: And when you watch his footwork, I'm a footwork guy.

661
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 3: Speak about this with quarterbacks all the time. The quarterbacks,

662
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 3: like coach, I tell him the same thing. If your

663
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 3: feet aren't right, the whole plays messed up, the whole

664
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Speaker 3: throws messed up. He doesn't have good footwork, he doesn't

665
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 3: have good fundamental footwork. He relies on his talent in

666
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 3: his arms just a little too much. This bears thing

667
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 3: with Caleb Williams. I thought coming out of college, I

668
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 3: just don't see generational talent, much like with CJ. Stroud

669
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 3: and Bryce Young, where I've told me Bryce Young, Yeah,

670
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 3: had a tough rookie year, He's gonna be the better quarterback.

671
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 3: And Jayden Daniels is kind of showing and already shown us.

672
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Speaker 3: Not only did he get to the playoffs as a rookie,

673
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 3: he won two playoff games on the road, like he

674
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 3: went in the Tampa and stole that one, then went

675
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Speaker 3: up to Detroit and lamb based at them, putting forty

676
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 3: plus on the board on them, and then people picking

677
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 3: him to do big things again this year. We'll see

678
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Speaker 3: how that happens in that division. I think Dallas is

679
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 3: back in fact his health. I think Dalla's gonna be

680
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 3: a good football team along with the Eagles, but with

681
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 3: Caleb Willms y'all, I'm on with him. I think this

682
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 3: is fact that I don't see generational. I never saw

683
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Speaker 3: generational and I've been on record to say that. And

684
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 3: now you hear always having problems grasping. Yeah, all right,

685
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 3: well you got to grasp a playbook quarterback like this,

686
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 3: well job and they again, this gets back to preseason.

687
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Speaker 1: So you know, a lot of guys don't want to

688
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 1: play in the preseason. This is a case for Caleb Williamston.

689
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 2: I got to play. He has got to play.

690
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Speaker 1: He's going to have to play full halves if he's

691
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 1: going to catch up. I know, Ben Johnson, you know,

692
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 1: here's an opportunity for a young coach. A lot of hype,

693
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 1: you know, and I get it. I mean, you know,

694
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Speaker 1: you never know. I remember when Joe Gibbs was this

695
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 1: like anonymous offensive coordinator with Don Coriel, you know, in

696
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 1: the Charger days, right, and everyone's like, well, I mean,

697
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 1: how much is this guy actually doing? I mean it's

698
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 1: Coriel's offense, right, And the then Redskins hired this guy

699
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 1: and he's complete anonymous coach, and then you go he's not.

700
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Speaker 1: And I think he started zero to five that first year.

701
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:48,479
Speaker 1: They finished eight and eighth. The next year they win

702
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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. So I don't know if Ben Johnson

703
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 1: is going to be that kind of coach, if he's

704
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Speaker 1: going to be an instant impact guy. I do like

705
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 1: the fact though, that when things weren't working in the field,

706
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Speaker 1: he pulled them off the field to establish a certain

707
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 1: hierarchy where it's like, I'm in charge, I don't like

708
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 1: what I see the ball, get off the field, and

709
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 1: let's get somebody else in there that can execute what

710
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 1: it is that Ben has.

711
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Speaker 3: He has to do that because the franchise already like

712
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 3: rolled out the triple red carpet for Caleb Williams since

713
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Speaker 3: day one. So now, and that's because Naggie was fighting

714
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 3: for his job. He was on a hot seat. We

715
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Speaker 3: all knew that. So now you have it to where

716
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 3: he is trying to establish himself as a head coach,

717
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Speaker 3: not just be another coordinator that came from another big

718
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 3: time team that actually got knocked out of the playoffs

719
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Speaker 3: in their first home game last year, now to having

720
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 3: his own system, his own voice, and the guy that

721
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 3: you got to call out first for not playing well

722
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 3: is the guy they've been rolling out the red carpet

723
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 3: because I wan't here when you got here, brother, but

724
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 3: I'm here now, so we're gonna do things my way.

725
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 3: Don't like what I see. Come sip some Gatoray real quick,

726
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 3: let's talk.

727
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Speaker 1: I am still jury out on caleboy. His his you know,

728
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 1: follow up from the Heisman year. Five games in, he

729
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 1: has twenty one touchdowns, one pick and they're five and

730
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 1: oh they actually got to six and oh and then

731
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 1: the wheels came off when they went to Notre Dame.

732
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 1: He had the three pick game against Notre Dame and

733
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 1: he never really recovered from that. Like, from that point on,

734
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 1: he did not look the same. Now he's in a

735
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 1: situation as Chicago. You know, remember before the season last year,

736
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 1: iber Flus was considered a favorite to be coach of

737
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Speaker 1: the year, right, and then we're joking, Yeah, he's also

738
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 1: considered to be the favorite to be the first coach fired.

739
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Speaker 1: And then after he was fired, they played even worse.

740
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Speaker 3: Sorry, I said, nag, I'm sorry, I have to write myself,

741
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 3: I said, naggy abra.

742
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Speaker 1: So eber Flus was the guy, and the bottom line

743
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 1: was is that, you know, they actually played worse after

744
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 1: iber Flus was let go. So I look at it

745
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 1: this way, Kayleb Williams, it is. It is a fresh start.

746
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 1: It was a false start last year because again it's

747
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 1: a new coach of new system, knew everything else. So

748
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Speaker 1: I'm going to hold out and say that I saw

749
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 1: things from Caleb Williams on the field. I'm not going

750
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 1: to compare him to anybody. I'm just talking about him.

751
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 6: Now.

752
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 1: They're going to draw comparisons to Mahomes. That's ridiculous. So

753
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 1: but I mean, I saw that he has the ability

754
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 1: to make things happen on the field. The thing that

755
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,359
Speaker 1: really stands out to me with quarterbacks though, and this

756
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 1: is to me an absolute must, because all great quarterbacks have.

757
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 2: It is command on the field.

758
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,760
Speaker 1: When you when you charge a team on the field,

759
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,720
Speaker 1: whether you know you saw it with the great quarterbacks

760
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 1: of all time, you know the games on the line

761
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 1: and you can see them respond to this quarterback. Let's

762
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,399
Speaker 1: go to the line, let's get this thing done. All

763
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 1: great quarterbacks have that, and I haven't seen even a

764
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,320
Speaker 1: hint of that from Caleb Williams in his short NFL career.

765
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 1: So hopefully, for his sake, Ben Johnson can instill that

766
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 1: in him. Maybe it's not in him, but I don't

767
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 1: see that. Whatever it is. I mean, I already saw

768
00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 1: with Jane Daniels a year ago. I saw with c J. Stroup,

769
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 1: with Houston. You certain young quarterbacks. He just I remember

770
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 1: this with Dak Prescott. I saw his very first preseason

771
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 1: game was in San Diego, and you know, he was

772
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,879
Speaker 1: like a fourth round pick. And I watched this kid,

773
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:15,839
Speaker 1: and I'm like, he's got it. I see this, watch him,

774
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 1: he belongs. You can see that this guy has this,

775
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 1: this persona on the field that I belong.

776
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 2: I can take care, take your control of this. You

777
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 2: like Caleb's tape though, I get all that other I

778
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 2: get all that stuff you're saying to you.

779
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 3: I've seen something tape. I see some things. Yes, you

780
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 3: gotta have more than just some things. Man to be

781
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 3: a quarterback.

782
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 2: In his legal he can throw the ball accurately. He's

783
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:38,879
Speaker 2: shown that, but he's not consistent.

784
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 1: Okay, well, I mean again, you would say that you

785
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 1: know something could be developed you mature as a quarterback.

786
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 1: He could get the ball down the field, he could

787
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 1: obviously run. He can make throws at certain angles. This

788
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 1: is worthy of Mahomes and Parrison started popping up.

789
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that that's not his basics, and see, that's

790
00:35:56,680 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 3: one that's my issue with him. His basics of what's

791
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 3: good you're going to need to get there is gonna

792
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 3: have to be more than He can make some things happen,

793
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 3: like we've seen so many quarterbacks.

794
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 2: But he can make some things happen.

795
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 3: Johnny manziel could make some things happen, But is it

796
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 3: sustainable that That's just where I kind of unfortunately for.

797
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 1: Johnny Manziel, and I was the biggest Manzel fan on

798
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 1: the planet.

799
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Speaker 2: I like to do.

800
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: His game didn't translate to the NFL period because he

801
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 1: was an improval.

802
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 2: That was the beauty about him. He Nick Saban still

803
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 2: wakes up like he never figured this guy out. Get

804
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 2: me out of here with this kid all right?

805
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 1: Coming up on the other side, another quarterback that is

806
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 1: getting some concerned looks.

807
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 2: We'll tell you who it is. This is Fox Sports Sunday.

808
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Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

809
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 1: Steve Harbin and BJ Husky, Fox Sports Sunday and the

810
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio Studios.

811
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Speaker 2: Okay, programming update.

812
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 1: We were hoping to catch up with John Paul Morosi

813
00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 1: today live from Cooperstown. However, the work he does with

814
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:05,280
Speaker 1: the MLB network is going to conflict with our show today,

815
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 1: so no JP from COOPER'STWN. We'll talk a little bit

816
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 1: about not only today obviously induction ceremony for the Baseball

817
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, but next Saturday will be the induction

818
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 1: day and shrinean day for the Pro Football Hall of

819
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,879
Speaker 1: from So we'll get into that a little bit later

820
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 1: on the show. We're talking current NFL training camp news,

821
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 1: Factor Fiction, and we talked about Caleb Williams situation. You

822
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,800
Speaker 1: seem to have, like you say, you've sounded the alarm

823
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams even before the draft, and I'm still holding

824
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:41,359
Speaker 1: out hope on him, you know. And and by the way,

825
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 1: I haven't waivered on Bryce Young. I'm with you on

826
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 1: Bryce Young. I had the jury is far from out.

827
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 1: I mean, you could not have walked into a worse

828
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,320
Speaker 1: situation than he did with Carolina.

829
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 2: So new coach last year, and.

830
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Speaker 1: I started to see a little bit of that swag

831
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 1: that I remember from his high school days, and that

832
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 1: translated to a Heisman Trophy at Alabama. All right, So

833
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 1: Factor Fiction, Aaron Rodgers apparently first time out through a

834
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 1: pick right off the bat. So this this marriage and

835
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 1: by the way, he was confronted on the NFL network

836
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 1: with some of the words said to about Terry Bradshaw,

837
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 1: and I thought, is honestly his answer was true in

838
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,320
Speaker 1: the sense that he doesn't know me. In other words,

839
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 1: you know, Terry Bradshaw doesn't really know me. He's seen

840
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 1: my documentary, the most self serving documentary I've ever seen

841
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 1: since the Michael Jordan documentary. You know you know anything,

842
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:41,800
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. If you're upset, Aaron about your public persona,

843
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: you created it. So there's no one to blame for

844
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 1: your public persona other than you, because you have amplified it,

845
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 1: you have perpetuated it, and that's why people view you

846
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 1: the way they do. But that being said, the bigger

847
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,320
Speaker 1: question for the Steelers, who are a team again that

848
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,479
Speaker 1: is a fringe playoff team. They've been this for several

849
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 1: years under Mike Tomlin. More often than not they do

850
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 1: sneak in the playoffs and then have a one and

851
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 1: done exit. Based on what he did a year ago

852
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 1: with the Jets, where he did start all seventeen games

853
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 1: on a very bad football team, I do believe that

854
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 1: Steelers have an upgrade at quarterback, not much of an upgrade,

855
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 1: and I'm not the biggest Aaron Rodgers fan to say

856
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 1: the least, that they are no worse at quarterback than

857
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,800
Speaker 1: they have been over the last four years going into

858
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:32,399
Speaker 1: the season. The question to me is, how is his

859
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 1: attitude what the Aaron Rodgers added to bring to a

860
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:42,280
Speaker 1: stable franchise, which is what the Steelers have been forever.

861
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 2: And are under Mike Tomlin.

862
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 1: Will there'd be so much tumult with just Aaron Rodgers

863
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 1: being Aaron Rodgers that he will unravel everything that the

864
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 1: Steelers have stood by and stood for for all these years.

865
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Speaker 3: Ever since we've been talking about this, since he made

866
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 3: his move. What I tell you was gonna happen. What

867
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 3: I tell you I people's gonna happen. Man and Rogers listen.

868
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 3: Dave Leafloor, he tried to tear him down, all right.

869
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:08,439
Speaker 3: He goes to the Jets. He tears me Matt, Mattlafloor, Sorry,

870
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 3: Matt Lafloor. He goes, yeah, man, I'm mixing up names today.

871
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Speaker 3: Wat wake up.

872
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 2: He'said, no, it's not. He goes to the Jets and

873
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:16,319
Speaker 2: takes solid down.

874
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 3: I'm telling you this is going to be Mike tomlins

875
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 3: first losing season. I said this months ago. This guy

876
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 3: just ruins things. He touches and goals around. He's not

877
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 3: a good player, he's not a good teammate. He's not

878
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:35,360
Speaker 3: a winnable quarterback anymore.

879
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:36,320
Speaker 2: It's over.

880
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna fall for the name Aaron Rodgers tape.

881
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 2: Don't lie. Put the tape on the tape. Don't lie.

882
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 3: He's old now. He is not Brady. Okay, he's not paying,

883
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:49,840
Speaker 3: he's not those guys. He's great, but he's not them dudes.

884
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 3: This thing's gonna go. He's gonna tear Pittsburgh to the ground.

885
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 3: The Ravens are gonna be good, Cincinnati's gonna be good,

886
00:40:58,280 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 3: Cleveland's gonna be decent.

887
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 7: In the am.

888
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 3: You see his stat you mark Mark, they are finishing

889
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 3: under five one hundred because they decided to go get

890
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 3: that guy.

891
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 2: Man, he going to tear it down. I'm sorry, Mike,

892
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 2: he take you on the far honey man. He said that.

893
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 1: Aaron Anders talking about THEIRS seven or eight teams each

894
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 1: year that can win the Super Bowl, maybe ten or twelve.

895
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 1: He goes, that's where we are. We're in that group

896
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 1: right there. We'll find out once the season begins. We

897
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,439
Speaker 1: got Hall of Fame to talk about. This is Fox

898
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 1: Sports Sunday. Okay, rolling along here on another buzy Sports Sunday.

899
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:33,479
Speaker 1: This is Fox Sports Sunday, and we're in the Fox

900
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 1: Sports radio studios. Everything's about to change shortly, folks, as

901
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 1: we get into the football season, starting with the Hall

902
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:44,320
Speaker 1: of Fame game on Thursday between the Chargers and the Lions.

903
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 1: Saturday will be the induction ceremony for the Pro Football

904
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. Just a quick note on the Baseball

905
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame today again, JP will not be able

906
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 1: to join us from Cooperstown.

907
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 2: Five new inductees.

908
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 1: It's interesting to me that the two veterans candidates that

909
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 1: were elected, Dave Parker and Dick Allen, in many ways

910
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 1: are bigger stars than the three that were voted in

911
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 1: by the Baseball writers, which are e ro cc Sabathia

912
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 1: and Billy Wagner. When I always say this, can you

913
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 1: write the history of a game without mentioning somebody? I mean,

914
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 1: if you're deemed a Hall of Famer, it would seem

915
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:27,280
Speaker 1: that you can't talk about the history of a sport

916
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 1: without mentioning this name. And so if I were to say,

917
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 1: could you talk about if I were to ask this question,

918
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 1: could you write the history of baseball without mentioning Billy Wagner.

919
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 1: I think the biggest response would be this, who the

920
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 1: hell is Billy Wagner?

921
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 2: Right? Never even heard of the guy.

922
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 1: Billy Wagner, by the way, was a longtime closer, struck

923
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 1: out a lot of guys. He was notorious because he

924
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 1: was a guy that wasn't that big physically, but he

925
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,399
Speaker 1: had a lot of speed on his ball. But here's

926
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,240
Speaker 1: something that gets to me about a guy like Billy

927
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,320
Speaker 1: Wagner as opposed to I don't know, and I'm a

928
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 1: little partially with the Steve Garvey situation. Steve Garvey's postseason

929
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 1: numbers are off the charts. Billy Wagner, who just will

930
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:16,320
Speaker 1: be inducted into the Hall of Fame today, was a closer.

931
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:21,720
Speaker 1: He pitched in fourteen postseason games. You ready for this, Fejay,

932
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 1: fourteen postseason games he appeared in. His career postseason record

933
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 1: his ERA ten point zero three. That's his career postseason

934
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 1: era in fourteen postseason appearances. The Hall of Famer Billy

935
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 1: Wagner's ERA ten point zero three, Well, that screams Hall

936
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 1: of Fame to me.

937
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 2: The baseball writers have embarrassed themselves over the years by

938
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 2: excluding the Barry Bonds and the Roger Clemens and the

939
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 2: a Rods, and the many Ramirezes and the ra Al Palmerow's,

940
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 2: the Mark McGuire, Sammy Socialist, goes on and on and on,

941
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 2: Gary Sheffield, excluding guys that were Hall of famers, And

942
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 2: yet you open the door for a Billy Wagner who

943
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 2: in fourteen postseeded appearances in eleven and two thirds SIVSA

944
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 2: and gave up twenty one hits and thirteen are in runs.

945
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:21,359
Speaker 2: That's who you.

946
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 1: Deem worthy of being immortalized in baseball lore. It just

947
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 1: it's an embarrassment. The Baseball Hall of Fame has taking

948
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 1: a deep turn south over the years, and no matter

949
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 1: how many times they try to exclaim, Wow, we're.

950
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 2: The most exclusive club of all time, no you're not.

951
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,240
Speaker 1: You're an embarrassment to halls of fame. And that includes

952
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 1: the Basketball Hall of Fame, which is the ultimate and embarrassment.

953
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 1: But the Baseball Hall of Fame, with the inclusion of

954
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 1: people like Scott Roland and Billy Wagner, who by no

955
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 1: stretch of the imagination are Hall of Fame players, it

956
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 1: just it gets to me because I love the sport.

957
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 2: I love the history of baseball.

958
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 1: It's got a rich history, it's got some of the

959
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 1: greatest names, not just in baseball history, but sports history.

960
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 1: And to be somehow included in the same club as

961
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 1: those names, it's to me, it's just it makes me

962
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 1: want to I uh, I'm getting a little you know,

963
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 1: and being in a throw up a little bit.

964
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,720
Speaker 3: Ye Jim Carrey style. I got nothing to add, man,

965
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 3: I'm gonna let you had out one. I'm gonna let

966
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:26,359
Speaker 3: you hid out and I got nothing to add. I'm

967
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 3: not a Hall of Fame small of fame.

968
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:29,879
Speaker 1: Man.

969
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,320
Speaker 2: Put the tape on. I'm gonna tell you. I'm sorry.

970
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 3: I know it sounds cool. I'm a tape guy. Put

971
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 3: the tape on, and then the tape will tell you.

972
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 3: Put the tape on and talk to the people who

973
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 3: played against him. Especially when it comes to basketball. That's

974
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 3: my favorite basketball because basketball is the most narrative driven

975
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 3: sports tall topic I think where it's very personal with

976
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 3: most people when you talk basketball and we forget like

977
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 3: true great player.

978
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 2: I had a.

979
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 3: Conversation with Kenya Martin the other day. I'm talking to

980
00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 3: Kenya Martin and Mitt Richmond over at Gohls Gym one

981
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:03,439
Speaker 3: I GM at and just to stand there and talk

982
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 3: basketball with him, you understand, this man knows what he's

983
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 3: talking about. He may not be the megastar, but he

984
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 3: played with Carmelo Anthony, played under George carl and had

985
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 3: to guard a guy like Kobe Bryant. I'll think I'll

986
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:25,760
Speaker 3: take what he says over someone who's never never dribbled

987
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 3: past high school, like past high school. And you probably

988
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 3: some of y'all ain't even dribbling high school. But you

989
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:38,359
Speaker 3: are the upfront authority on a basketball topic. And then

990
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 3: you get a guy that's got a fifteen year career,

991
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 3: was the number one overall pick, like and then you

992
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 3: start talking with him and it's like, Wow, you have

993
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,799
Speaker 3: a conversation with a guy like Olden Polonies, you have

994
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,760
Speaker 3: a conversation with a guy like Mitch Richmond, Like you know, guys.

995
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 3: I tell you one thing I loved about covering the NBA.

996
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 3: My favorite thing about covering the NBA were the side

997
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:02,360
Speaker 3: conversations I had. I did the interview stuff just to

998
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 3: show the world or show the industry that hey, I

999
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:06,800
Speaker 3: could sit in the press conference with these other names

1000
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 3: and get my questions in and get complimented on my

1001
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:12,840
Speaker 3: questions and get good return answers for my questions. But

1002
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 3: my favorite part was just striking up conversation, like Joe

1003
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 3: kitsch is just any other normal guy? Hey, nice, Sue Brother,

1004
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,439
Speaker 3: I like that pinchtripe. Thank you doing man, Hey, quick

1005
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:23,400
Speaker 3: question for you. But next thing you know, I stopped

1006
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 3: and I'm talking to Joe Kitchen in the back tunnel.

1007
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 3: That meant more to me than the actual interview or

1008
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 3: the actual press comes, because that's when you're gonna get

1009
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:36,839
Speaker 3: the real conversations from people, and the real like hey,

1010
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 3: this guy was trash or this guy was good or

1011
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 3: look man, I had to play against the guy.

1012
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 2: I had to cover the guy I had to.

1013
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 3: We had Richmond Webb on on the Saturday show that

1014
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 3: I used to do here, and the question I asked

1015
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 3: him was hands down favorite defender to see and the

1016
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 3: hardest guy you ever without hesitation.

1017
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 2: He goes Bruce Smith. He goes Bruce Smith.

1018
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 3: I said, oh wow, that's right, you did go all

1019
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 3: those years the former sac leader all times sackler, Bruce Smith.

1020
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 3: He had to block this guy, a Hall of fame

1021
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:09,319
Speaker 3: perennial guy.

1022
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:11,879
Speaker 2: Tom. But when you talk about defensive ends.

1023
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 3: Steve Hartman, how many times do we bring up Bruce

1024
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:15,839
Speaker 3: Smith's name?

1025
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:20,320
Speaker 1: Well, they should, obviously because he's a dime sack leader.

1026
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 2: Here's the thing.

1027
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:27,840
Speaker 1: Obviously I respect the opinion of athletes talking about other athletes.

1028
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:31,319
Speaker 1: But then I get back to the annual NBA All

1029
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 1: Star voting. So the way the NBA All Star Game works,

1030
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 1: there's three different votes. There's the media vote, there's the

1031
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 1: fan vote, and then there's the player vote. And when

1032
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 1: you look at the player vote, it always just like

1033
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:53,760
Speaker 1: it's like what happened here? So, for instance, I'm looking

1034
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 1: two years ago, twenty twenty four NBA All Star Game.

1035
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 1: The player vote, this is voting for starters.

1036
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 2: In the game, and this players voting for players.

1037
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 1: Players voting for players to start in the All Star Game.

1038
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith of the Pacers got six votes from players

1039
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:24,720
Speaker 1: to start in the All Star Game. Jalen Johnson got

1040
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 1: eight votes to start in the All Star Game. Tobias

1041
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 1: Harris got twenty votes. Nick Claxton got eight votes. That's

1042
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 1: eight players that said he should start the All Star Game.

1043
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 1: This is a lineup that ended up with Andrew Decompo,

1044
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:49,840
Speaker 1: Tatum mb as So Obi Toppins seven votes, Andre Drummond

1045
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 1: nine votes, Patrick Williams of the Bulls nine votes.

1046
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 2: To start the game.

1047
00:49:55,840 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 1: Now, okay, Patrick, would you vote him over Anna Decompo,

1048
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 1: Embiid Tatum, Jayalen Brown, Butler. I mean, look from guys

1049
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 1: who deal with these but here again, this is this

1050
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:16,760
Speaker 1: is why I'll give you another example.

1051
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 2: So when I worked did you know I worked for

1052
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 2: the Raiders anyway?

1053
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 1: When I was working for the Raiders, of one of

1054
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:29,760
Speaker 1: our biggest stars obviously was Howie Long, Hall of Famer.

1055
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 1: And I had a conversation with whole people Rannie White,

1056
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 1: all time greats, Yeah, DNT And I don't know how

1057
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 1: it was. I was at the Hall of Fame ceremony actually.

1058
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 2: And he was there, and I don't know.

1059
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:49,719
Speaker 1: I was with a group of people and somehow the

1060
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 1: name how He Long came up and he did not hesitate.

1061
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 2: He said.

1062
00:50:56,320 --> 00:51:01,239
Speaker 1: That guy is he most overrated defensive.

1063
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 2: Lineman of all time? I go, I was like, really,

1064
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 2: and I go. He looked dominant. How he said this

1065
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:06,760
Speaker 2: about anyway?

1066
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:09,799
Speaker 3: Randy White said this about Howie Oh, Randy White said

1067
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:12,959
Speaker 3: this about how he said he goes, he goes.

1068
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 2: Here's the deal. When how he was at the Raiders.

1069
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 1: And by the way, this was similar with Joe Cleco

1070
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 1: of the Jets, who's in the Hall of Fame, Dan

1071
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 1: Hampton of the Bears of the Hall of Fame. These

1072
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:23,839
Speaker 1: are guys who would move up and down the line

1073
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 1: of scrimmage. And he goes, here's the thing that the

1074
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:27,879
Speaker 1: Raiders used to do with HOWI long. They would line

1075
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 1: him up against the weakest guy. So, in other words,

1076
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:34,360
Speaker 1: he goes, I was a strict defensive tackle. I'm sitting

1077
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:37,400
Speaker 1: there right defensive tackle. Doesn't matter who they're putting up

1078
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:40,359
Speaker 1: against me. I'm in one spot. They were moving him

1079
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 1: up and down, and they're cherry picking who is the

1080
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:44,839
Speaker 1: weakest link on that offensive line.

1081
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:46,399
Speaker 2: Then he tease off on that guy.

1082
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 1: He goes, if I had done that, I would have

1083
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 1: had three hundred sacks, if I had the choice of

1084
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 1: who which.

1085
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 2: One of those linemen I want to go up against.

1086
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 1: Now I thought it was I understood what he was

1087
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 1: point was, But he I saw he came in a

1088
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:03,280
Speaker 1: game because I'm watching him game in a game out.

1089
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:05,359
Speaker 1: He had some injuries. Later he wasn't the same player,

1090
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 1: but I saw him at his peak, and he was

1091
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 1: being double team and triple team and absolutely dominating. But

1092
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 1: this is a personal bias, and I thought some of

1093
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:16,880
Speaker 1: it rubbed off on Randy because by this time, how

1094
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 1: He was already a media star, that his star was

1095
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 1: bigger than Randy White. I will say this, and how

1096
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:25,879
Speaker 1: he was, Randy White's a better player, was a better

1097
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 1: player than how He Long. But nobody remembers Randy White.

1098
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:32,280
Speaker 1: They all remember how He because he's on TV every week.

1099
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 1: And so that's the kind of personal bias that unfortunately,

1100
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 1: when we talk about we talk about media bias, there's

1101
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 1: player bias as well, against or for certain players.

1102
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:45,800
Speaker 2: I don't think that's bias.

1103
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 3: I think that would because Randy White was a beast

1104
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:50,959
Speaker 3: like Randy White was a play in is arguing even

1105
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 3: how He Long would tell you that Randy White was

1106
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:54,800
Speaker 3: a better player than how And the reason why we

1107
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,359
Speaker 3: don't remember him is because he played with that star

1108
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 3: on his helmet. And they're just so there's so many

1109
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 3: It's like the Lakers, right, why don't we ever mention

1110
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:05,760
Speaker 3: Elgin Baylor the way that we should we again? Because

1111
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 3: right right, and I'm a guy on the fifty, but

1112
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 3: I know my history, like I know.

1113
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:15,239
Speaker 1: Just remember this we don't mention him. Elgin Baylor, God

1114
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:18,400
Speaker 1: rest him. He was one of my favorite people. His

1115
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 1: third year, which was the first year the Lakers moved

1116
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 1: from Minneapolis to Los Angeles for the season, played every game,

1117
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 1: averaged thirty five points, twenty rebounds, and five a six.

1118
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 2: I mean Elgin was dropping seventy before the three point line.

1119
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 2: Like Elgin was that, Like he was the first guy

1120
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 2: to score seventy in an NBA game.

1121
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 1: He's dropped sixty one game five NBA Finals in the

1122
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:44,880
Speaker 1: Boston Garden against Bill Russell and the whole gang.

1123
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 3: But that's the point I'm making. He can say, right there,

1124
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 3: you go, that's the point I'm making. It's because the

1125
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 3: Lakers are so drowned with so many great names that

1126
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 3: by the time you get the Elgin, you said, Kareem Shaq,

1127
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 3: Kobe Sma, Jerry West, Yeah, exactly, Wes, Like, there's six

1128
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 3: guys before you.

1129
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:05,799
Speaker 2: So that's why. But that doesn't mean elgend Baylor wasn't

1130
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 2: no player.

1131
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:07,799
Speaker 3: And then we can look at the same player from

1132
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:10,720
Speaker 3: his era that we might talk about more than elgend

1133
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 3: Baylor because he played with a franchise that just hyped

1134
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 3: him up or like you said, once you're in media

1135
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:19,839
Speaker 3: afterwards you are you do have a bigger start. Like

1136
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 3: Great Hill was a better player than Charles Barkley, but

1137
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:24,880
Speaker 3: because Charles Barkley's been on TV so much longer than

1138
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 3: Grant Hill has that that's the guy we're gonna remember,

1139
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 3: and people will probably try to put him.

1140
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 2: Over Grant Hill.

1141
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:33,840
Speaker 3: But ball football player for player, Grant Hill was a

1142
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:34,799
Speaker 3: better basketball player.

1143
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 1: Dan Dirdorf got into the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

1144
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:40,279
Speaker 1: You know he was a good player. That he wasn't

1145
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 1: a good player, but the fact that he was showing

1146
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 1: up a Monday night football.

1147
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:48,920
Speaker 3: And he remember him. So I just that's let me

1148
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 3: tell you something. I've never thought.

1149
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 2: About that before. As far as Howie Long.

1150
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 3: Being overrated, I never thought how he loan was this

1151
00:54:57,080 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 3: legendary raider. I never looked at him like that. It's

1152
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:03,760
Speaker 3: a great player, But like where's the Hoghwie Long plays?

1153
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 3: You remember, like, where's where's the Howie Long gang? We

1154
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:09,840
Speaker 3: got that with some other defenders that you know, we

1155
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:12,919
Speaker 3: just don't kind of have with Howie Long. Like you said,

1156
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 3: good player, but you know, better than Randy White.

1157
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 2: All right? Coming up on the other side, Vj's all

1158
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 2: hyped up. He's hyped up, folks, he.

1159
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:27,920
Speaker 1: Is hyped up about one quarterback in the NFL. Brace yourself,

1160
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:30,919
Speaker 1: because I get a sense we're gonna hear his name

1161
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 1: uttered from Vj's lips over and over and over again

1162
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:37,840
Speaker 1: all season long.

1163
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 2: Who is it? You'll find out?

1164
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:46,240
Speaker 1: This is Fox Sports Sunday, Hartman Husky, Fox Sports Sunday.

1165
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:48,719
Speaker 1: They're in the Fox Sports radio studios. All right, I

1166
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 1: told you there's a quarterback's name.

1167
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 2: The VJ.

1168
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:56,920
Speaker 1: Husky is going to be saying over and over and

1169
00:55:57,040 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 1: over again, week after week, month after month. But that

1170
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:06,319
Speaker 1: name will not be revealed right now. You're gonna have

1171
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:06,880
Speaker 1: to wait.

1172
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 2: A little longer because it's that time. I really wanted

1173
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:11,440
Speaker 2: to hear Jared Goff's name too.

1174
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 9: A percise, profitable picks over under a half a flagrant, gentlemen,

1175
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 9: are your perfect picks?

1176
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 2: All right?

1177
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 9: And speaking of Jared Goff and the come from behind

1178
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:26,280
Speaker 9: I saw in the Texans game, guess what we almost

1179
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 9: got the brand new ball game last week.

1180
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 2: You guys had two picks overlapping, so you split that.

1181
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 9: You both went one to O there with Otani actually

1182
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:39,360
Speaker 9: under on the hits. MLB MLS All Stars had two goals.

1183
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 9: The one you differed on was how long Micah Parsons

1184
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 9: will you have taken victory to VJ, which means the

1185
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 9: swore now sits nineteen to eighteen.

1186
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 2: The pace chaser is right on your you know in

1187
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 2: the fourth quarter, Man, give me the ball.

1188
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 10: I was.

1189
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:56,279
Speaker 2: Camp.

1190
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 1: I mean, he showed up at camp and I'm thinking,

1191
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 1: come on, all week long, I gone.

1192
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:04,719
Speaker 3: Look, and last night, when I'm gonna just click it

1193
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 3: through my DVR, I said, oh, let me go to

1194
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 3: NFL network to look at the camp stuff so I

1195
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:10,400
Speaker 3: can see the bottom line.

1196
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 2: They see if Micah got and they kept going, kept

1197
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:15,840
Speaker 2: going by. Wait, I said, oh, no, Micah point for

1198
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 2: visa because he's not gonna sign. And I was, I

1199
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:19,440
Speaker 2: literally was.

1200
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:22,440
Speaker 1: I was falling it all week long, especially because he

1201
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 1: was in capinot the right.

1202
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 2: This an interview with DAGs right next to him.

1203
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 9: And you say that too, because I believe he also

1204
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 9: called him Michael Parcy.

1205
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 2: Did did you hear this?

1206
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:34,439
Speaker 4: Yes?

1207
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 2: They called him Michael. Yeah.

1208
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 1: This is like later in his life when Al Davis

1209
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 1: introduced Lance Kiffin as his new coach.

1210
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 2: Lance Kiffins.

1211
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 1: So you get a little older and the names going.

1212
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 2: Gave Ferguson some brand.

1213
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 9: So it's like, yo, I was gonna say, no, I

1214
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:57,439
Speaker 9: think it's a matter of him getting old.

1215
00:57:57,440 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 2: This is just who he is, you.

1216
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 4: Know, Sanchez on Mexico, I'm a monkey.

1217
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I want Mason Doyle. You know, I've

1218
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 2: got an entire wall of this stuff. I've heard it all.

1219
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 9: And yes, okay, all right, we're gonna get on into

1220
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 9: the bigs before you completely lose it.

1221
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 2: So we and we do got to.

1222
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 9: Cram a few in because we got to get some

1223
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 9: NFL futures. But let's get the other ones out of

1224
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 9: the way. Let's start with this. I just saw this

1225
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 9: news Deon Sanders. This might be an easy one for

1226
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 9: you rather but Deon Sanders is going to have a

1227
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:32,480
Speaker 9: press conference here on Monday. He's gonna be having it

1228
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 9: along with his medical team.

1229
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:36,920
Speaker 2: Very interesting.

1230
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 9: Yes, and I know he's had some medical issues here

1231
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 9: for a while. And look, his sons are out of college.

1232
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 9: So is there going to be a coaching vacancy at

1233
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:48,720
Speaker 9: Colorado by next week? Are we maybe looking at Dion

1234
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:52,440
Speaker 9: Sanders having a step away. So, in other words, the

1235
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 9: total number of seasons. So I was going to take

1236
00:58:56,040 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 9: here is a half Yeah, yeah.

1237
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:03,320
Speaker 2: Okay, what do you think, b do you like to

1238
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:03,800
Speaker 2: go first?

1239
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:07,720
Speaker 3: This one was close in near and dear to me

1240
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 3: what I think this could honestly be? Because I saw

1241
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 3: this and I thought, oh wow, when I saw a

1242
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 3: medical team, Steve, I'm like, okay, because he already had

1243
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 3: it so amputated and he's had some some some help.

1244
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 1: So why would you bring a medical team to a

1245
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 1: press conference?

1246
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 9: He wants to This is like general season questions as well,

1247
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 9: but again, the medical team is going to be there.

1248
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 3: Two yeah, yeah, I can't see him doing this to

1249
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 3: step down, like step away like Lee, Maybe take a

1250
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 3: medical leave for a while and have one of the

1251
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 3: assistants and something.

1252
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe that's not the question. What's the question?

1253
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 2: What's the question? It is?

1254
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:44,800
Speaker 9: It is coaching vacancies. Are we going to need a

1255
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:45,920
Speaker 9: new coach for Colorado?

1256
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:46,520
Speaker 2: Okay?

1257
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 3: And this is after come Monday, so after tomorrow.

1258
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:57,360
Speaker 1: The Colorado gonna need a new head coach. No, No,

1259
00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 1: it's a really good question, Chris. I think that it

1260
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:04,760
Speaker 1: is something to look at. But my guess is the

1261
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 1: reason that he's going to have medical people there is

1262
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:14,400
Speaker 1: that he wants people to assure those listening.

1263
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:15,880
Speaker 2: That he is okay to coach.

1264
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 1: In other words, the questions are going to be you know,

1265
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 1: if he came out and just said, I know you've

1266
01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 1: been hearing a lot of stuff. I'm fine, I'm good

1267
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 1: to go, and they said, well, what are the doctors saying? Well,

1268
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:27,400
Speaker 1: now he's going to bring the doctors there. Yeah, so

1269
01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 1: I can't differ with j on this one. Yeah, Deon

1270
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:35,200
Speaker 1: Sanders will still be coaching Colorado this season.

1271
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 2: We'll keep an eye on it. Hope it's all for

1272
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:39,480
Speaker 2: the best job. But the reasons you gave are all sound.

1273
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:41,960
Speaker 1: Again with his sons out, I mean sort of like

1274
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 1: mission accomplished.

1275
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:46,160
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, and like look, people keep thinking upwards

1276
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 9: and over. But like he's always kind of announced that

1277
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:50,600
Speaker 9: he wants to, you know, do college stuff.

1278
01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 2: But it was no surprise that guys like.

1279
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:57,640
Speaker 9: Travis Hunter and Seer Sanders that was his focus and

1280
01:00:58,040 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 9: they went with him to Colorado.

1281
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:01,440
Speaker 1: If you were if you were going to announce that

1282
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:04,840
Speaker 1: you're gonna step down for medical reasons, you would not

1283
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:06,800
Speaker 1: bring a medical crew with you.

1284
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:09,680
Speaker 2: That's just something you would do on your own. All right,

1285
01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 2: So let's go.

1286
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:14,040
Speaker 9: We actually have football to gamble on here, gentlemen, the

1287
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:16,600
Speaker 9: Hall of Fame game, and everyone says, oh, you should

1288
01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:19,720
Speaker 9: have the eight hundred number around if you are gambling

1289
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:24,080
Speaker 9: on preseason football. Our Vegas guys will disagree and say,

1290
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:26,880
Speaker 9: you can make some great money on that. We are

1291
01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:28,480
Speaker 9: going to get a first look at the Lions where

1292
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:31,320
Speaker 9: there have been multiple kid fights at camps, and the Chargers,

1293
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 9: who are gearing up pretty well.

1294
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:35,640
Speaker 2: But hey, you know what, it's the Hall of Fame game.

1295
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:38,400
Speaker 9: We have football in July, gentlemen, over under Hall of

1296
01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:41,440
Speaker 9: Fame game point total thirty two and a half, thirty

1297
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:41,919
Speaker 9: two and.

1298
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:47,720
Speaker 10: A half hunder whoa wha, wha, whoa whoa whoa official

1299
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:51,360
Speaker 10: line The Lions alone average more than that last season

1300
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:51,800
Speaker 10: per game.

1301
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:54,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, thirty None of those guys play on Thursday night.

1302
01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:58,520
Speaker 2: Oh no, this is going over thirty two and a half.

1303
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:02,800
Speaker 2: Thirty two and a half. The score game is rot

1304
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:05,160
Speaker 2: know the score of his game is going to be

1305
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:08,800
Speaker 2: fifteen to nine. No, No, what Hall of Fame game

1306
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:11,240
Speaker 2: have you guys seen? To score? Go off the charts?

1307
01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:13,440
Speaker 1: I didn't say it doesn't have to go on for

1308
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:15,120
Speaker 1: the charts twenty one fourteen.

1309
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:18,200
Speaker 3: It's the older body, the guys that they play. Half

1310
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:20,600
Speaker 3: of them will be cut the following week and the

1311
01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 3: other half will last another week until they are highlighting

1312
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:27,240
Speaker 3: your receipt six months from now, are trying to sign

1313
01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:29,680
Speaker 3: you up the personal training at a gym.

1314
01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:31,760
Speaker 9: So we said thirty two and a half last year

1315
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:34,600
Speaker 9: between the Houston Texans and the Chicago Bears, that combined

1316
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:36,200
Speaker 9: points were thirty eight.

1317
01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's about were that thirty seven?

1318
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:39,400
Speaker 11: Thank you?

1319
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 2: Before that, that's.

1320
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:43,960
Speaker 1: Under thirty two and a half, under twenty one fourteen, Yeah,

1321
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:44,760
Speaker 1: that's it, all right?

1322
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 2: You going over over, over, all, right, over. This is

1323
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:49,080
Speaker 2: why I tied. This is where I tie it up.

1324
01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:49,560
Speaker 2: That's right.

1325
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:51,320
Speaker 9: This is where you call we got one more here

1326
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:53,280
Speaker 9: before that can help you either tie it up or

1327
01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:59,640
Speaker 9: take the lead. Here, Tigers, my tigers, my tigers, good, good, gracious,

1328
01:02:59,640 --> 01:03:03,920
Speaker 9: golly g villakers, my tigers. Tigers wins by next week

1329
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:06,520
Speaker 9: three and a half. I am setting the over under

1330
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:07,920
Speaker 9: this low because man, that.

1331
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:10,200
Speaker 1: Didn't check yesterday, so I know they had a five

1332
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:12,720
Speaker 1: game losing stay all right.

1333
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:16,080
Speaker 2: And by the way, they're upright today game count, they're

1334
01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:16,600
Speaker 2: up three zero.

1335
01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:19,520
Speaker 1: How many people know that the Toronto Blue Jays right

1336
01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:21,720
Speaker 1: now had the best reckon in the American League.

1337
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:26,560
Speaker 2: Yep, Toronto out of nowhere besides Canadians. What happened here

1338
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:28,240
Speaker 2: in the wildcar right now?

1339
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:31,200
Speaker 1: Yeah? So, uh so three and a half wins this

1340
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:32,920
Speaker 1: week for the Tigers.

1341
01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:37,320
Speaker 2: Over this for the first Yeah you got this first look?

1342
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:40,000
Speaker 2: So they played this way? Where do they played this way? Course?

1343
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:42,640
Speaker 9: So I think today is their last game against the

1344
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:44,400
Speaker 9: Blue Jays, and now I have to BLUs this up

1345
01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:46,520
Speaker 9: to see who's I will look at it.

1346
01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:48,480
Speaker 2: I will, I will come up with the answer. Are

1347
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:50,960
Speaker 2: you ready here? VJ? Just give me one second here

1348
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:52,600
Speaker 2: and I'm going to ring this up here. I know

1349
01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:54,200
Speaker 2: my Rangers are a bottom one right now and with.

1350
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:58,320
Speaker 1: The loving Okay, so right now for the Tigers, like

1351
01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:00,520
Speaker 1: you say, they finish up with the Blue Jays, and

1352
01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:03,439
Speaker 1: now the rest of their schedule for the week here

1353
01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:08,320
Speaker 1: we go. So they have uh three games at home

1354
01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:13,760
Speaker 1: against Arizona Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and then they had to Philadelphia.

1355
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:15,320
Speaker 2: It'll just be those four games.

1356
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:20,800
Speaker 1: Thursday, they don't play Thursday, so there's only five games

1357
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:23,720
Speaker 1: because Sunday's game will be uh won't be here.

1358
01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:26,640
Speaker 2: It'll be Sunday night, bascunt. Today's game but we're counting

1359
01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:27,920
Speaker 2: today's game. So yeah, so.

1360
01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:31,800
Speaker 1: Six games, so one day home, then they have three

1361
01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:35,360
Speaker 1: at home against Arizona, then three at Philms.

1362
01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:37,320
Speaker 3: So four I was going, I was gonna say, because

1363
01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:39,680
Speaker 3: now you're asking them to go four and two over

1364
01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:41,800
Speaker 3: the next six after the five games.

1365
01:04:41,840 --> 01:04:43,200
Speaker 2: Two and a half, let me set it at two

1366
01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:47,000
Speaker 2: and a half over. Yeah, thank you, that's better over.

1367
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:49,960
Speaker 2: Oh that's that's fifty to fifty over the next six.

1368
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:52,880
Speaker 3: I'll take that over there four twol over the next

1369
01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:54,640
Speaker 3: six after a five game losing street.

1370
01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:56,600
Speaker 1: Well, I put it this way, if you had three

1371
01:04:56,600 --> 01:04:58,040
Speaker 1: and a half, you would have gone.

1372
01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:01,880
Speaker 3: Under probably even though they're up three all today. I'll

1373
01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:03,560
Speaker 3: take the odds two and a half. I get one

1374
01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 3: today right now.

1375
01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:06,400
Speaker 4: What is this?

1376
01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:08,440
Speaker 1: If you go three and a half and go under,

1377
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:10,680
Speaker 1: I would go three and a half and go over.

1378
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:13,600
Speaker 2: So I'm giving you more big and.

1379
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:16,840
Speaker 1: Because at two and a half you said over, I'd

1380
01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:20,320
Speaker 1: say over and then's just a wash. But if you

1381
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:23,080
Speaker 1: take it at three and a half and take the under,

1382
01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:23,880
Speaker 1: I'll take the over.

1383
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:25,920
Speaker 3: You're not gonna try to swindle me when I'm on

1384
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:28,880
Speaker 3: this fourth quarter. Comeback at you right now, nice, try

1385
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:30,320
Speaker 3: hard man, but it ain't.

1386
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:30,720
Speaker 2: Rocking like that.

1387
01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:35,200
Speaker 1: All right, two and a half? IM going over all right,

1388
01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:36,959
Speaker 1: but I would have gone over three and a half.

1389
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:40,440
Speaker 9: Well, get ready for this because we've got three big,

1390
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:45,680
Speaker 9: big Chungo NFL season futures to do.

1391
01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:50,560
Speaker 1: All right, but first let's find out what is trending

1392
01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:53,720
Speaker 1: right now. I always know exactly what time it is

1393
01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:57,560
Speaker 1: when I look at Moncei at this time, because she's

1394
01:05:57,560 --> 01:05:58,280
Speaker 1: holding court.

1395
01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:01,480
Speaker 7: I'm holding court. Well, you guys are playing around with

1396
01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:05,800
Speaker 7: Christopher fat exactly exactly how's that going? Who's winning.

1397
01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:07,400
Speaker 1: Is?

1398
01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:09,439
Speaker 2: Nineteen eighty? I have a one point lead.

1399
01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:09,840
Speaker 7: Four.

1400
01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:13,480
Speaker 2: I told you fourth quarter color. By the way, by

1401
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:16,240
Speaker 2: the way, I understand this. Eleven Let me say this.

1402
01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:18,640
Speaker 3: I was up eleven and seven and Chris found this

1403
01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:21,600
Speaker 3: mysterious paper in the car. Carview the paper, and all

1404
01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:24,440
Speaker 3: of a sudden I was down four. I'm like, oh no,

1405
01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:27,080
Speaker 3: I was up eleven seven. I came back down. But

1406
01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:29,320
Speaker 3: you know what, no problem, no problem?

1407
01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:30,680
Speaker 2: Problem are you saying this?

1408
01:06:30,720 --> 01:06:33,960
Speaker 1: I understand that Moncey as Moncey and I did our

1409
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:37,160
Speaker 1: show together, and she beat me head to head and.

1410
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:39,240
Speaker 2: I had to get it to get well. My point

1411
01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:40,440
Speaker 2: is no problem.

1412
01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:43,840
Speaker 1: I had never beaten anybody, had to head in anything

1413
01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:45,640
Speaker 1: in all my years. So if you were to be

1414
01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:48,920
Speaker 1: the first to beat lose to me, you would live

1415
01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:52,320
Speaker 1: an infamy, honestly. So I told that to Mony, and

1416
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:54,640
Speaker 1: Mony ran circles around me with our picks, and he.

1417
01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:56,040
Speaker 7: Kept trying to change the rules.

1418
01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:01,479
Speaker 3: Listen, these two guys, I says against like three weeks ago,

1419
01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:06,760
Speaker 3: these two dives this wait wait wait wait.

1420
01:07:06,800 --> 01:07:09,240
Speaker 7: Yeah, no, I I I understand. I would be Jason.

1421
01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:13,240
Speaker 2: I tried, I literally try to change the rules over

1422
01:07:15,160 --> 01:07:19,320
Speaker 2: to try to make a loser on. I kept digging

1423
01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:21,160
Speaker 2: a bigger and bigger, and.

1424
01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:22,400
Speaker 7: I just went for I was like, okay, we can

1425
01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:24,200
Speaker 7: do whatever you want.

1426
01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:28,360
Speaker 1: She was like, what, No, doesn't matter what rules you

1427
01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:30,040
Speaker 1: put out, it's going to be a loser.

1428
01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:33,880
Speaker 2: Shoulders shrug. Whatever it lives right now, it's got the dies.

1429
01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:36,160
Speaker 2: You don't change the rules.

1430
01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:39,960
Speaker 1: You have no idea how many people have gotten rich

1431
01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:41,040
Speaker 1: off my picks.

1432
01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:43,720
Speaker 8: Going the other sure, I'm unbelievable.

1433
01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:46,840
Speaker 1: I've had people literally saying, dude, you have literally put

1434
01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:48,360
Speaker 1: me an early retirement.

1435
01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:53,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, thank you. Keep making pics. You would they

1436
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:55,520
Speaker 2: pick what they picked the opposite of what you say or.

1437
01:07:55,560 --> 01:08:00,440
Speaker 3: The way, always okay, always well, he's gonna happened to

1438
01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:00,880
Speaker 3: you again.

1439
01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:04,080
Speaker 7: Can't wait, can't wait for the start of the NFL season,

1440
01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:06,880
Speaker 7: and I think Rashaun Slater can't start. Can't wait for

1441
01:08:06,920 --> 01:08:09,160
Speaker 7: the start of the NFL season. The Chargers and their

1442
01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:11,480
Speaker 7: left tackle agreed on a four year, one hundred and

1443
01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:14,560
Speaker 7: fourteen million dollar contract extension. It includes a record ninety

1444
01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:18,000
Speaker 7: two million guaranteed, making him the highest paid offensive lineman

1445
01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:21,479
Speaker 7: in NFL history. Cowboys tight end Jake Ferguson has signed

1446
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:24,840
Speaker 7: a four year, fifty two million dollar extension. Dolphin safety

1447
01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:27,960
Speaker 7: InKo Fitzpatrick has agreed to a revised contract, adding a

1448
01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:30,559
Speaker 7: sixteen million dollars signing botus to his deal. They're still

1449
01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:34,840
Speaker 7: negotiating a multi year contract extension. Terry McLaurin did report

1450
01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:38,919
Speaker 7: to Commander's training camp, ending his holdout without a contract extension.

1451
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:41,360
Speaker 7: He was placed on the physically unable to perform list

1452
01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:44,160
Speaker 7: due to an ankle injury. Forty nine Ers announced that

1453
01:08:44,120 --> 01:08:47,200
Speaker 7: they have activated wide receiver Ricky Pearsall from the physically

1454
01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:50,479
Speaker 7: unable to perform list. In a baseball it's all Pirates

1455
01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:52,640
Speaker 7: so far against the Diamondbacks four zero Top of the

1456
01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:54,960
Speaker 7: eighth inning, Orioles have a four to one lead over

1457
01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:58,040
Speaker 7: the Rockies. Bottom of the sixth inning. The Dodgers are

1458
01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:00,240
Speaker 7: now topping the Red Sox three to one. Top of

1459
01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:03,000
Speaker 7: the fifth. Billies have cut their deficit to just one

1460
01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:05,120
Speaker 7: run against the Yankees. It's four to three bottom of

1461
01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:08,000
Speaker 7: the fifth. In the Bronx, the Reds are still edging

1462
01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:10,000
Speaker 7: the Rays two to one. Top of the eighth inning.

1463
01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:12,880
Speaker 7: Tigers trying to snap their six game losing their six

1464
01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:14,800
Speaker 7: game losing streak in right now they are up on

1465
01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:16,880
Speaker 7: the Blue Jays three zero, bottom of the seventh inning.

1466
01:09:16,920 --> 01:09:19,280
Speaker 7: At home. Cubs are beating the White Sox two to one.

1467
01:09:19,280 --> 01:09:21,720
Speaker 7: Top of the six inning, Marlins, who have won four

1468
01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:23,639
Speaker 7: in a row, right now on top of the Brewers

1469
01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:26,519
Speaker 7: two to one after five innings. Nationals with the seven

1470
01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:28,960
Speaker 7: to two lead over the Twins top of the six,

1471
01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:32,120
Speaker 7: and the Padres are just all over the Cardinals seven zero,

1472
01:09:32,240 --> 01:09:35,679
Speaker 7: top of the fifth, Rangers all over the Braves eight one,

1473
01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:37,000
Speaker 7: bottom of the third.

1474
01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:40,479
Speaker 8: Back to you guys, all right, mon scenes, Yeah, she

1475
01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:43,200
Speaker 8: knows the truth, but Vj's finding out things all the

1476
01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:44,639
Speaker 8: time on this show, that's for sure.

1477
01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:46,320
Speaker 2: Thank you, Montie.

1478
01:09:46,360 --> 01:09:47,840
Speaker 1: We'll check in with you a little bit later on

1479
01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:50,360
Speaker 1: you can go back to your conversation. We're here in

1480
01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:53,439
Speaker 1: the Fox Sports Radio studios. Be sure to check out

1481
01:09:53,439 --> 01:09:56,559
Speaker 1: the Fox Sports Radio YouTube channel. There's a ton of

1482
01:09:56,560 --> 01:09:59,080
Speaker 1: great videos for many of our Fox Sports Radio shows.

1483
01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:01,479
Speaker 1: Just search Box Sports Radio on YouTube. We see a

1484
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:04,160
Speaker 1: whole bunch of video highlights from our shows. And be

1485
01:10:04,200 --> 01:10:07,160
Speaker 1: sure to subscribe to you always have instant access to

1486
01:10:07,280 --> 01:10:09,720
Speaker 1: our Fox Sports Radio videos on YouTube.

1487
01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:13,920
Speaker 2: All right back to the perfet picks NFL Futures times.

1488
01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:16,080
Speaker 9: Since you guys have been talking about Caleb Williams, just

1489
01:10:16,120 --> 01:10:18,360
Speaker 9: let's rip the band aid ra off right now. When

1490
01:10:18,439 --> 01:10:21,880
Speaker 9: Vegas really wants you to believe the Chicago height because

1491
01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:25,400
Speaker 9: the Bears season total is set at eight.

1492
01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:28,759
Speaker 2: And a half under under.

1493
01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:32,040
Speaker 1: Something is screwy with that line. I told you, man,

1494
01:10:32,240 --> 01:10:35,000
Speaker 1: you look at than the people in Chicago. Think about this.

1495
01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:38,320
Speaker 1: The Lions won fifteen games last year, they're over unders

1496
01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:42,479
Speaker 1: ten and a half. The Vikings won fourteen games, they're

1497
01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:46,400
Speaker 1: over unders nine and a half. The Packers won eleven games,

1498
01:10:46,439 --> 01:10:49,280
Speaker 1: they're over unders nine and a half. And the Bears

1499
01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:52,000
Speaker 1: won what five games last year? For the five and

1500
01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:55,320
Speaker 1: twelve four and thirteen. Uh and they're over unders eight

1501
01:10:55,360 --> 01:10:59,280
Speaker 1: and a half. Something is screwy with that line.

1502
01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:02,280
Speaker 2: Nothing's they're believing.

1503
01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:07,840
Speaker 9: What money everyone every year the Bears win the offseason

1504
01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:09,519
Speaker 9: every year, the entire president.

1505
01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:12,080
Speaker 2: And that's why going to the playoffs.

1506
01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:15,120
Speaker 1: And that's why eber Flues was the favorite, the betting favorite.

1507
01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:17,160
Speaker 2: To be NFL Coach of the Year going into last season.

1508
01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:21,640
Speaker 1: Mark they're buying into They're buying into this Ben Johnson thing.

1509
01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:22,519
Speaker 2: That is what they're doing.

1510
01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:24,360
Speaker 3: I don't have a problem with the Ben Johnson thing.

1511
01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:26,000
Speaker 3: But and yes I'm a schedule guy.

1512
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:27,759
Speaker 2: I don't care. Oh you know what those getting. Okay,

1513
01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:29,200
Speaker 2: we can go off with the players they have.

1514
01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:34,120
Speaker 3: If they look at but Bikeens, Lions, Cowboys, Raiders, and

1515
01:11:34,280 --> 01:11:37,160
Speaker 3: Commanders to start, that's their first five.

1516
01:11:37,320 --> 01:11:42,360
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna do this because again, the obvious play

1517
01:11:42,360 --> 01:11:43,120
Speaker 1: here is under right.

1518
01:11:43,240 --> 01:11:45,280
Speaker 2: I mean, you're like eight, they're under. They're going to

1519
01:11:45,360 --> 01:11:46,120
Speaker 2: go nine and eight.

1520
01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:49,880
Speaker 1: No, and you're like no, But something tells me this,

1521
01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:52,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go opposite of what everything.

1522
01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:54,479
Speaker 2: I believe in. I'm gonna go over on this one.

1523
01:11:55,040 --> 01:11:58,360
Speaker 1: I have no explanation other than somebody knows something that

1524
01:11:58,479 --> 01:12:03,040
Speaker 1: I don't know, and somehow the Bears.

1525
01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:05,320
Speaker 2: Sneak out with a winning rackets. Someone knows something.

1526
01:12:05,400 --> 01:12:07,559
Speaker 9: It's just that this is a line meant for people

1527
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:09,880
Speaker 9: in Chicago to bet on their own team, just like.

1528
01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:12,639
Speaker 1: They do Detroit some but the bottom line is, forget

1529
01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:13,479
Speaker 1: Bears fans.

1530
01:12:13,520 --> 01:12:17,160
Speaker 2: You see that line, Everyone's gonna pound me under their own.

1531
01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:20,320
Speaker 2: And not only that, there's another stretch in the middle of.

1532
01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:23,120
Speaker 3: The season at the Ravens at the Bengals homemige Is

1533
01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:24,520
Speaker 3: and Gigants at the Viking.

1534
01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:25,759
Speaker 2: Steelers at the Eagles.

1535
01:12:26,280 --> 01:12:29,320
Speaker 3: That's that's October and the first week get to November something.

1536
01:12:29,600 --> 01:12:32,960
Speaker 1: They don't lose money in Vegas, right, so they put

1537
01:12:32,960 --> 01:12:34,280
Speaker 1: out a number that looks.

1538
01:12:34,040 --> 01:12:37,639
Speaker 2: So out of whack. Something tells me that they they

1539
01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:39,559
Speaker 2: they're onto something here. So I'm gonna go over.

1540
01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:42,080
Speaker 9: Well's glad you brought up the Giants there, as you

1541
01:12:42,120 --> 01:12:43,920
Speaker 9: are also wearing the g Man cap in there, because

1542
01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:47,360
Speaker 9: that is our next team, VJ who we just declared

1543
01:12:47,439 --> 01:12:49,080
Speaker 9: Russell Wilson is the starter.

1544
01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:52,880
Speaker 2: So the Giants win total is five and a half.

1545
01:12:53,880 --> 01:12:55,160
Speaker 2: I'll go first on this one.

1546
01:12:55,200 --> 01:13:01,160
Speaker 1: Wow under by the way, I mean Russell Wilson will

1547
01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:04,040
Speaker 1: be the quarterback for maybe I don't know, three games.

1548
01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:06,679
Speaker 1: The question is, are they gonna put Jackson Dart in immediately?

1549
01:13:06,720 --> 01:13:09,799
Speaker 1: Are gonna throw Jamis Winston in for a while, especially

1550
01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:11,840
Speaker 1: if they get off to a really bad start. Are

1551
01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:14,559
Speaker 1: you gonna make your rookie of sacrificial lamb and destroy him?

1552
01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:17,479
Speaker 2: No, jameson, James Wilsland will be the number I would agree.

1553
01:13:17,479 --> 01:13:20,639
Speaker 1: And then what happened is if they put Jameis Winston in,

1554
01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:23,599
Speaker 1: they'll release Russell Wilson released.

1555
01:13:24,040 --> 01:13:26,479
Speaker 2: I mean, there's nothing, There's no reason want Jamas Winston

1556
01:13:26,479 --> 01:13:27,720
Speaker 2: because you want to take So.

1557
01:13:27,640 --> 01:13:29,800
Speaker 1: They're gonna give Russell Wilson. If it doesn't work, he'll

1558
01:13:29,800 --> 01:13:33,200
Speaker 1: get released. Then they'll go with Jamis Winston eventually.

1559
01:13:32,920 --> 01:13:37,200
Speaker 3: John under the Giants could be in the Arch sweepstakes.

1560
01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:38,439
Speaker 2: They really could.

1561
01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:41,160
Speaker 3: Even after they're taking Jackson, they can be in the

1562
01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:42,519
Speaker 3: Arch because let me ask you a questions.

1563
01:13:42,640 --> 01:13:44,439
Speaker 2: If they don't what the number one overall pick, do

1564
01:13:44,520 --> 01:13:47,519
Speaker 2: you not take Arch because you have Jackson Dart? Let

1565
01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:48,519
Speaker 2: me ask you this now.

1566
01:13:48,520 --> 01:13:51,519
Speaker 1: The argument about why Brian Dable is still there is

1567
01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:54,679
Speaker 1: they keep keep changing coaches every two years, like they've

1568
01:13:54,680 --> 01:13:57,240
Speaker 1: had four in a row. Dad, So they decided to

1569
01:13:57,320 --> 01:14:00,400
Speaker 1: break that cycle. But if indeed your play for the

1570
01:14:00,479 --> 01:14:03,320
Speaker 1: number one overall pick in arch Manning, why would you

1571
01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:05,920
Speaker 1: make a coaching change now? Why don't you bring in

1572
01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:08,840
Speaker 1: a French coach when he draft arch Manning and start

1573
01:14:08,920 --> 01:14:11,719
Speaker 1: new to the fire Davila which is uh, but they're

1574
01:14:11,720 --> 01:14:14,479
Speaker 1: not because this is a sacrificial.

1575
01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:14,960
Speaker 2: What's this over under again?

1576
01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:17,200
Speaker 9: Chris five and a half? And I will say this, like,

1577
01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:20,000
Speaker 9: put all that aside. Some of this roster is really good.

1578
01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:22,800
Speaker 9: They've got some good receivers and Milik Naghbors showed for

1579
01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:25,640
Speaker 9: so promise and like their defense, that front seven on

1580
01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:31,519
Speaker 9: that defense is they play solid like Ryan Burns, Dexter Lawrence, like.

1581
01:14:31,439 --> 01:14:34,360
Speaker 2: Their cave on. Oh, let's not forget about that. Kids.

1582
01:14:34,479 --> 01:14:38,280
Speaker 3: But once again, I go to the schedule at the Commanders,

1583
01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:42,519
Speaker 3: at the Cowboys, Chiefs, Chargers and Eagles. Five of the

1584
01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:45,760
Speaker 3: first six opponents, I mean these are perennial.

1585
01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:46,479
Speaker 2: It's a low number.

1586
01:14:46,520 --> 01:14:49,080
Speaker 1: Then it's by the way, as we get close to

1587
01:14:49,080 --> 01:14:51,400
Speaker 1: the season, that would be a good over under. How

1588
01:14:51,400 --> 01:14:54,560
Speaker 1: many games will Russell Wilson start exactly?

1589
01:14:55,080 --> 01:14:57,880
Speaker 2: Okay, that's down the road. I'm saying.

1590
01:14:57,880 --> 01:15:00,880
Speaker 3: They have these other players. Man, this is a tough

1591
01:15:00,880 --> 01:15:02,640
Speaker 3: one for me, honestly, because you made the point. We

1592
01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:04,639
Speaker 3: have the point about Russell Wilson, which you made a point.

1593
01:15:04,760 --> 01:15:07,400
Speaker 3: He's got weapons to get the balls, right, just get

1594
01:15:07,439 --> 01:15:09,760
Speaker 3: the balls. Big Pigs is a big time he is

1595
01:15:09,800 --> 01:15:10,400
Speaker 3: a superstar.

1596
01:15:10,479 --> 01:15:12,680
Speaker 2: And to make it. Yeah, but you the ball, you

1597
01:15:12,720 --> 01:15:16,639
Speaker 2: know what, I'll take the over? Wow wow, Okay, one

1598
01:15:16,680 --> 01:15:18,720
Speaker 2: more than I can see him. Six and a love

1599
01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:20,280
Speaker 2: super quick one. We only got a minute to do

1600
01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:20,639
Speaker 2: this one.

1601
01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:23,560
Speaker 9: In minutes all I really need on the Jacksonville Jaguars

1602
01:15:24,080 --> 01:15:26,439
Speaker 9: and extremely forgettable team. And I'm sorry at this point,

1603
01:15:26,479 --> 01:15:28,160
Speaker 9: I cannot believe in Trevor Lawrence.

1604
01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:30,439
Speaker 2: Their wind total is set at six and a half. Oh,

1605
01:15:30,479 --> 01:15:31,639
Speaker 2: I'm going over on this one.

1606
01:15:33,040 --> 01:15:35,559
Speaker 1: I think that Travis Hunter wills have some kind of

1607
01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:38,600
Speaker 1: impact as a rookie. I don't think Trevor Lawrence is

1608
01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:43,000
Speaker 1: a completely lost cause they play in a woefully weak division.

1609
01:15:44,080 --> 01:15:47,680
Speaker 2: The Colts don't actually have a quarterback. Right now, I

1610
01:15:48,439 --> 01:15:51,200
Speaker 2: know I will go over that on Jacksonville.

1611
01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:53,479
Speaker 1: Of course, that's the team I think Chris Pickton will

1612
01:15:53,520 --> 01:15:54,640
Speaker 1: go to the Super Bowl year ago.

1613
01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:57,200
Speaker 3: I gotta go under because I just don't believe it.

1614
01:15:57,280 --> 01:15:59,920
Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence is jump right through that glass. I just don't.

1615
01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:02,120
Speaker 3: I don't, I don't. I don't believe that Trevor Lawrence.

1616
01:16:02,160 --> 01:16:05,040
Speaker 3: AFC is loaded. They have a woeful division. But the

1617
01:16:05,080 --> 01:16:07,679
Speaker 3: Texas played defense. The coach play defense.

1618
01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:09,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, they did.

1619
01:16:09,800 --> 01:16:12,040
Speaker 3: The Bengals, they got the Texas earlier, they got they're

1620
01:16:12,040 --> 01:16:13,760
Speaker 3: at the Niners. They got the cheese, they got some

1621
01:16:13,840 --> 01:16:15,920
Speaker 3: tough they had some tough guys, some tough team.

1622
01:16:15,960 --> 01:16:19,120
Speaker 2: Yeah. I got the nine, six and eleven team. I

1623
01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:22,400
Speaker 2: don't think I think we'll get to I haven't that

1624
01:16:23,360 --> 01:16:25,000
Speaker 2: give me? Yeah? Yeah, put the nice off finant week.

1625
01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:27,479
Speaker 1: That's what they were last year, six and eleven.

1626
01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:29,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was last year. This is the show, and

1627
01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:31,240
Speaker 2: we already did the forty nine ers and Steve actually

1628
01:16:31,280 --> 01:16:37,400
Speaker 2: went over at the right under side, all right, good stuff.

1629
01:16:38,120 --> 01:16:39,040
Speaker 2: What were you over under?

1630
01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:39,280
Speaker 6: On?

1631
01:16:40,479 --> 01:16:43,719
Speaker 2: He was over Jackson, I'm under, I'm under under.

1632
01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:48,559
Speaker 1: Okay, Love, I was over okay coming up on the

1633
01:16:48,600 --> 01:16:52,080
Speaker 1: other side again, the quarterback. The VJ will talk about

1634
01:16:52,560 --> 01:16:55,400
Speaker 1: ad nauseum all season long, and you have yet to

1635
01:16:55,439 --> 01:17:00,240
Speaker 1: hear his name uttered. On today's show, who is it?

1636
01:17:00,479 --> 01:17:03,560
Speaker 1: You'll find out? This is Fox Sports Sunday Hartman and

1637
01:17:03,640 --> 01:17:09,559
Speaker 1: Husky Fox Sports Sunday right here in our Fox Sports

1638
01:17:09,640 --> 01:17:11,639
Speaker 1: Radio studios.

1639
01:17:12,040 --> 01:17:13,519
Speaker 2: Well again, we are.

1640
01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:21,640
Speaker 1: Finally ready to embark on another football season in the

1641
01:17:21,640 --> 01:17:25,839
Speaker 1: weeks ahead. Obviously preseason football. The problem again with preseason football.

1642
01:17:26,040 --> 01:17:28,240
Speaker 1: You know, you get a little novelty like Thursday will

1643
01:17:28,280 --> 01:17:30,640
Speaker 1: all be huddled up, and then you you watch the

1644
01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:33,040
Speaker 1: Lions and Chargers parade out a bunch of players you

1645
01:17:33,080 --> 01:17:35,679
Speaker 1: never even heard of, and then you're like, oh, wow,

1646
01:17:35,680 --> 01:17:37,679
Speaker 1: we're going to do this for the next few weeks. Yeah,

1647
01:17:37,720 --> 01:17:39,280
Speaker 1: you're going to do that for a couple of weeks.

1648
01:17:39,360 --> 01:17:42,240
Speaker 2: How much you're going to watch? Oh, I'll watch how much?

1649
01:17:43,320 --> 01:17:45,320
Speaker 2: I think it depends on how the game goes. I

1650
01:17:45,360 --> 01:17:45,960
Speaker 2: think you owe me.

1651
01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:49,080
Speaker 3: Why is that because you made me watch the entire

1652
01:17:49,080 --> 01:17:51,639
Speaker 3: All Star Game, and I watched the entire Major League

1653
01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:52,479
Speaker 3: Baseball All Star Game.

1654
01:17:53,360 --> 01:17:53,680
Speaker 2: I did it.

1655
01:17:53,800 --> 01:17:56,559
Speaker 1: Well, well, that's almost like a preseason because you do

1656
01:17:56,640 --> 01:17:57,960
Speaker 1: have a lot of anonymous players.

1657
01:17:58,720 --> 01:18:00,320
Speaker 2: I didn't watch the whole All Star Game, but you

1658
01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:05,240
Speaker 2: made me do it. Okay, so let me think, let's

1659
01:18:05,280 --> 01:18:12,000
Speaker 2: see Big Brothers on that night I watched Big brother

1660
01:18:12,120 --> 01:18:13,000
Speaker 2: Do you really watch that?

1661
01:18:13,400 --> 01:18:16,479
Speaker 1: I am because my son does, and so people that

1662
01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:17,519
Speaker 1: I know watch it.

1663
01:18:17,400 --> 01:18:19,719
Speaker 2: And is that one guilty pleasure? Okay?

1664
01:18:19,800 --> 01:18:23,240
Speaker 1: Now, well, actually a friend of mine got me back

1665
01:18:23,280 --> 01:18:26,439
Speaker 1: on Survivor for I hadn't watched that for years.

1666
01:18:26,479 --> 01:18:28,760
Speaker 2: I had not watched that. I don't watch any of it.

1667
01:18:29,400 --> 01:18:33,000
Speaker 1: So I get hooked in and yeah, big brother, it.

1668
01:18:35,160 --> 01:18:37,280
Speaker 2: Is. It's on Wednesday third, But it's only an hour.

1669
01:18:37,680 --> 01:18:39,840
Speaker 1: I'll watch most of the game because I'm curious now

1670
01:18:39,880 --> 01:18:42,000
Speaker 1: that we are on opposite sites on the over under,

1671
01:18:42,040 --> 01:18:42,479
Speaker 1: I need.

1672
01:18:42,360 --> 01:18:45,240
Speaker 2: That over Okay.

1673
01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:47,880
Speaker 1: So we were talking at the very start of the

1674
01:18:47,920 --> 01:18:51,559
Speaker 1: show about overplaying things that are happening in the.

1675
01:18:51,520 --> 01:18:53,320
Speaker 2: Preseason, which I get.

1676
01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:56,160
Speaker 1: Look, you know you're assigned to be covering a team.

1677
01:18:56,240 --> 01:18:58,080
Speaker 1: You're also means you got to come up with some

1678
01:18:58,160 --> 01:19:00,599
Speaker 1: kind of storyline and all of a sud and something

1679
01:19:00,640 --> 01:19:02,320
Speaker 1: doesn't look right and you got to report it.

1680
01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:02,960
Speaker 2: Okay.

1681
01:19:03,240 --> 01:19:06,000
Speaker 1: Now, the question is how much does that actually matter?

1682
01:19:06,400 --> 01:19:08,280
Speaker 1: That's you leave it up to the audience.

1683
01:19:08,320 --> 01:19:08,920
Speaker 2: I get that. All that.

1684
01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:15,599
Speaker 1: So that being said, there is one team in training

1685
01:19:15,640 --> 01:19:19,360
Speaker 1: camp right now and they've made a change at quarterback

1686
01:19:20,160 --> 01:19:24,479
Speaker 1: and so far early on, things are looking good. Now,

1687
01:19:24,520 --> 01:19:27,080
Speaker 1: the question again is does that matter one week in

1688
01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:32,600
Speaker 1: a training camp. Well, with this particular quarterback. It matters

1689
01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:34,920
Speaker 1: very much to one VJ.

1690
01:19:35,120 --> 01:19:35,479
Speaker 2: Husky.

1691
01:19:35,800 --> 01:19:38,360
Speaker 1: So reveal to all of us a name that you

1692
01:19:38,439 --> 01:19:43,120
Speaker 1: will be repeating at nauseum, week after week after week

1693
01:19:43,200 --> 01:19:47,400
Speaker 1: after week from your standpoint only in glowing terms.

1694
01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:49,600
Speaker 2: Who is that quarterback?

1695
01:19:50,320 --> 01:19:52,479
Speaker 3: Well, there's two guys, y'all go here for me, but

1696
01:19:52,640 --> 01:19:55,240
Speaker 3: probably the main one other than my guys. My boys

1697
01:19:55,240 --> 01:19:55,640
Speaker 3: should do.

1698
01:19:56,160 --> 01:19:58,120
Speaker 1: No, I don't want to hear your door. Yeah, we

1699
01:19:58,160 --> 01:19:59,439
Speaker 1: don't even know if he's going to play.

1700
01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:02,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what you guys are hoping for. No, Yeah,

1701
01:20:02,240 --> 01:20:04,160
Speaker 3: that's what you're hoping for. But of course, man, it's

1702
01:20:04,200 --> 01:20:07,240
Speaker 3: gonna be my man Ooso, It's gonna be my man

1703
01:20:07,280 --> 01:20:11,760
Speaker 3: oos It's gonna be oos I mean, could be Jayalen Hurts.

1704
01:20:12,160 --> 01:20:14,280
Speaker 3: They got a few names, Man, which one you want

1705
01:20:15,040 --> 01:20:15,759
Speaker 3: at nauseum?

1706
01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:18,599
Speaker 1: You said that nauseum though there's only one quarterback you're

1707
01:20:18,600 --> 01:20:19,560
Speaker 1: going to talk about.

1708
01:20:21,280 --> 01:20:27,120
Speaker 2: Jay Jay McCarthy. You are going to mention his name over.

1709
01:20:27,040 --> 01:20:29,519
Speaker 3: And oh, I was trying to stay away from it

1710
01:20:29,520 --> 01:20:32,160
Speaker 3: because I already showed you that showed you the video.

1711
01:20:32,479 --> 01:20:34,919
Speaker 2: I was trying to stay away from it. McCarthy.

1712
01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:39,840
Speaker 1: All right, So again the Vikings won fourteen games. Well,

1713
01:20:39,920 --> 01:20:41,880
Speaker 1: a guy that a lot of people thought was never

1714
01:20:41,960 --> 01:20:44,599
Speaker 1: going to be an impact quarterback in this league, Sam Darnald,

1715
01:20:44,640 --> 01:20:47,800
Speaker 1: and he had a tremendous regular season till that last

1716
01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:52,320
Speaker 1: game against the last three weeks, yeah, last week's So

1717
01:20:53,160 --> 01:20:56,439
Speaker 1: I ask you, do you believe that JJ McCarthy will

1718
01:20:56,479 --> 01:20:59,800
Speaker 1: come anywhere near matching the numbers that Sam Darnald put up?

1719
01:20:59,800 --> 01:21:02,240
Speaker 3: A y what he might pass those numbers. He's a

1720
01:21:02,280 --> 01:21:06,000
Speaker 3: better He's a better quarterback. Stop playing with me, Man

1721
01:21:06,040 --> 01:21:09,920
Speaker 3: about my man? JJ, Hey JJ, call me dog, call

1722
01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:13,080
Speaker 3: me JJ. I got your back over here, Man, I

1723
01:21:13,120 --> 01:21:15,280
Speaker 3: got your back. Why, guys, Hey, I got your back.

1724
01:21:15,400 --> 01:21:15,719
Speaker 2: JJ.

1725
01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:18,519
Speaker 3: He's got too many weapons to get the ball to Steve,

1726
01:21:19,120 --> 01:21:21,240
Speaker 3: He's got too many weathers to get the ball to.

1727
01:21:21,320 --> 01:21:24,000
Speaker 2: You're saying that he's a passenger on a luxury lineup.

1728
01:21:24,040 --> 01:21:25,559
Speaker 3: No, he's just gonna put the ball where it needs

1729
01:21:25,560 --> 01:21:27,439
Speaker 3: to be, like Kurt Warner used to.

1730
01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:30,080
Speaker 2: Do, oh zing.

1731
01:21:30,600 --> 01:21:35,040
Speaker 1: Don't worry about that. No hall of fame for him.

1732
01:21:35,080 --> 01:21:37,599
Speaker 1: Just having all kinds of fun here on another Loaded

1733
01:21:37,640 --> 01:21:41,360
Speaker 1: Sports Sunday, Fox Sports Sunday. Once again, we are here

1734
01:21:41,520 --> 01:21:44,680
Speaker 1: in the Fox Sports radio studios, like all of you

1735
01:21:44,760 --> 01:21:48,000
Speaker 1: out there, are excited about the start of the NFL season.

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Speaker 1: It's all Hall of Fame Day today in Major League Baseball,

1737
01:21:52,320 --> 01:21:56,720
Speaker 1: and then next Saturday is the Hall of Fame enshrinement

1738
01:21:56,800 --> 01:21:59,439
Speaker 1: for the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

1739
01:21:59,479 --> 01:22:01,719
Speaker 2: I want to add about that for a second here, VJ.

1740
01:22:01,880 --> 01:22:04,840
Speaker 1: Because you know, the last few years people have been

1741
01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:08,160
Speaker 1: sort of complaining that there are too many inductees into

1742
01:22:08,200 --> 01:22:10,360
Speaker 1: the Pro Football Hall of Fame. They were getting up

1743
01:22:10,400 --> 01:22:14,799
Speaker 1: to like classes of eight, and this year they decided

1744
01:22:14,880 --> 01:22:18,439
Speaker 1: we're going to change the rules slightly to make it

1745
01:22:18,520 --> 01:22:22,120
Speaker 1: more difficult to get into the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

1746
01:22:22,200 --> 01:22:22,960
Speaker 2: I know a lot of people.

1747
01:22:23,320 --> 01:22:26,639
Speaker 1: Were you one of those people that assumed that Eli

1748
01:22:26,720 --> 01:22:29,200
Speaker 1: Manning was going to be a first ballot Hall of Famer?

1749
01:22:29,680 --> 01:22:30,479
Speaker 2: Not first ballot.

1750
01:22:30,520 --> 01:22:31,960
Speaker 3: I think he's a Hall of Famer, And I've gotten

1751
01:22:31,960 --> 01:22:34,320
Speaker 3: into that discussion with tons of people that say no,

1752
01:22:34,479 --> 01:22:37,920
Speaker 3: and I'm like, well, you know, top top twelve, I believe,

1753
01:22:37,960 --> 01:22:39,960
Speaker 3: or top ten in the area as far as his

1754
01:22:40,040 --> 01:22:44,480
Speaker 3: touchdown passes, and he is the two rings against the goat,

1755
01:22:44,600 --> 01:22:47,560
Speaker 3: you know, the starting streak.

1756
01:22:47,360 --> 01:22:47,960
Speaker 2: That he had.

1757
01:22:48,360 --> 01:22:49,800
Speaker 3: I just I think he's a Hall of Fame, not

1758
01:22:49,880 --> 01:22:51,800
Speaker 3: first ballot, and it wouldn't bother me if it took

1759
01:22:51,840 --> 01:22:54,200
Speaker 3: Eli like another five years to get in, I just

1760
01:22:54,240 --> 01:22:55,679
Speaker 3: think that he's going to be a Hall of Fame

1761
01:22:55,760 --> 01:22:56,759
Speaker 3: quarterback at some point.

1762
01:22:57,000 --> 01:22:59,599
Speaker 2: But I'm also going by Steve what I've been seeing.

1763
01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:02,040
Speaker 3: You can't let some of these other guys in and

1764
01:23:02,040 --> 01:23:03,920
Speaker 3: then tell me he doesn't deserved to be in. But

1765
01:23:03,960 --> 01:23:06,360
Speaker 3: we talked about receivers last week, and it took Ark

1766
01:23:06,439 --> 01:23:08,400
Speaker 3: Monk Fevor to get in. Art Monk should have been in,

1767
01:23:08,560 --> 01:23:10,479
Speaker 3: but he finally got in. But it took forever for

1768
01:23:10,560 --> 01:23:11,040
Speaker 3: Art Monk.

1769
01:23:10,880 --> 01:23:12,360
Speaker 2: The gay well Art Monk.

1770
01:23:12,760 --> 01:23:20,439
Speaker 1: Okay, this comes down to the argument again about and

1771
01:23:20,600 --> 01:23:27,720
Speaker 1: And it's interesting when you talk to players, ye, longevity.

1772
01:23:27,040 --> 01:23:27,840
Speaker 2: Matters to them.

1773
01:23:29,040 --> 01:23:32,000
Speaker 1: So in other words, if you are a good player

1774
01:23:32,680 --> 01:23:36,240
Speaker 1: but for a long period of time time, man, you're good.

1775
01:23:36,320 --> 01:23:38,840
Speaker 1: You're never dominant, but you're a good player for a

1776
01:23:39,000 --> 01:23:45,320
Speaker 1: long time. That resonates with other players because you play

1777
01:23:45,360 --> 01:23:45,719
Speaker 1: the game.

1778
01:23:45,800 --> 01:23:47,320
Speaker 2: And if you if you're.

1779
01:23:47,240 --> 01:23:52,040
Speaker 1: Able to play fifteen sixteen, you know, like Marcedes Lewis

1780
01:23:52,160 --> 01:23:56,120
Speaker 1: right right, who is still out there active? I mean

1781
01:23:56,160 --> 01:24:00,960
Speaker 1: it's like seventeen eighteen years playing in the NFL. Now,

1782
01:24:01,040 --> 01:24:03,080
Speaker 1: for the most part of Mercedes Loo he's not an

1783
01:24:03,120 --> 01:24:06,879
Speaker 1: All Pro. You know, he's been more of a blocker

1784
01:24:06,920 --> 01:24:09,160
Speaker 1: than a receiver, which is why he's been able to

1785
01:24:09,200 --> 01:24:12,720
Speaker 1: extend his career. But that argument whether someone like that

1786
01:24:12,960 --> 01:24:16,320
Speaker 1: is a Hall of Famer seems to resonate more with players.

1787
01:24:17,680 --> 01:24:19,360
Speaker 2: When I look at the Hall of Fame, there's my

1788
01:24:19,439 --> 01:24:21,720
Speaker 2: own personal view on it. Hall of Fame, well, it

1789
01:24:21,760 --> 01:24:22,840
Speaker 2: could be any Hall of Fame.

1790
01:24:23,479 --> 01:24:27,360
Speaker 1: When I look at at some point of your career,

1791
01:24:30,120 --> 01:24:32,559
Speaker 1: you have to have been acknowledged to be one of

1792
01:24:32,640 --> 01:24:34,360
Speaker 1: the best. And when I say one of the best,

1793
01:24:34,520 --> 01:24:39,439
Speaker 1: not top ten, top three, there's my cutoff right there.

1794
01:24:39,479 --> 01:24:43,640
Speaker 1: At some point at your position, you need to have

1795
01:24:43,680 --> 01:24:47,320
Speaker 1: been recognized as one of the three best in your

1796
01:24:47,560 --> 01:24:52,479
Speaker 1: time at that position, so that this is something. And

1797
01:24:52,520 --> 01:24:56,559
Speaker 1: so like, for instance, Terrell Davis. Terrell Davis got in

1798
01:24:56,560 --> 01:24:59,880
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame, he basically played four years right,

1799
01:25:00,520 --> 01:25:03,599
Speaker 1: and then he got hurt. He tagged on three years

1800
01:25:03,640 --> 01:25:07,519
Speaker 1: where he was nowhere near anything. He had yards, so

1801
01:25:07,640 --> 01:25:11,160
Speaker 1: he had four dominating and then remember after he got hurt,

1802
01:25:11,600 --> 01:25:13,920
Speaker 1: Denver kept pluging him running back after running back, and

1803
01:25:13,960 --> 01:25:16,200
Speaker 1: they were they were all productive.

1804
01:25:16,200 --> 01:25:19,080
Speaker 3: Maybe we weren't two thousand yard guys, but they were

1805
01:25:19,160 --> 01:25:20,519
Speaker 3: fifteen hundred yard backs though.

1806
01:25:20,520 --> 01:25:24,320
Speaker 1: But Terrell Davis was not only a regular season MVP,

1807
01:25:24,600 --> 01:25:27,599
Speaker 1: was a Super Bowl MVP. They won two Super Bowls.

1808
01:25:28,240 --> 01:25:30,479
Speaker 1: There's no doubt John Elway would be first tell you

1809
01:25:30,520 --> 01:25:31,639
Speaker 1: it wasn't for Dreell Davis.

1810
01:25:31,640 --> 01:25:34,280
Speaker 2: He would never put a ring on yep. Okay. So

1811
01:25:34,400 --> 01:25:36,519
Speaker 2: that to me says Hall of Fame.

1812
01:25:37,160 --> 01:25:39,479
Speaker 1: Can you tell the history of the NFL without Terrell

1813
01:25:39,560 --> 01:25:42,000
Speaker 1: Davis's run. I don't want to get in an extended

1814
01:25:42,040 --> 01:25:44,599
Speaker 1: thing with Kurt Warner, but it's a similar situation. I mean,

1815
01:25:45,040 --> 01:25:48,840
Speaker 1: you know, if you have a short term run. This year,

1816
01:25:49,080 --> 01:25:52,080
Speaker 1: one of the inductees is Sterling Shark. He only played

1817
01:25:52,120 --> 01:25:57,160
Speaker 1: seven years. He was dominant. Five Pro Bowls, legit, none

1818
01:25:57,200 --> 01:26:00,880
Speaker 1: of those you know, alternate you know things, three time

1819
01:26:00,920 --> 01:26:04,120
Speaker 1: first team All Pro twice, broke the NFL record for

1820
01:26:04,240 --> 01:26:06,840
Speaker 1: receptions in the season, and his last year he had

1821
01:26:06,880 --> 01:26:10,320
Speaker 1: eighteen touchdowns. That to me screams Hall of Fame. You

1822
01:26:10,360 --> 01:26:12,439
Speaker 1: were a dominant player, even if it was for a

1823
01:26:12,439 --> 01:26:15,320
Speaker 1: short time. This was the argument for Sandy Kofax back

1824
01:26:15,320 --> 01:26:18,320
Speaker 1: in the day in baseball. There were people upset about

1825
01:26:18,360 --> 01:26:21,000
Speaker 1: Kofax because he had a very short run, but he

1826
01:26:21,080 --> 01:26:22,400
Speaker 1: was so dominant.

1827
01:26:22,840 --> 01:26:23,920
Speaker 2: You couldn't deny him.

1828
01:26:24,080 --> 01:26:26,559
Speaker 1: Imagine if Sho hey o Tani never played another game,

1829
01:26:27,080 --> 01:26:28,679
Speaker 1: would you keep him out of the Hall of Fame?

1830
01:26:28,880 --> 01:26:31,000
Speaker 1: Of course not. It's a Hall of Famer.

1831
01:26:31,680 --> 01:26:34,679
Speaker 2: So's that's Mario. So how do you feel about the whole?

1832
01:26:34,840 --> 01:26:36,760
Speaker 1: See the thing about Eli Manning when you talk about

1833
01:26:36,800 --> 01:26:39,920
Speaker 1: those career numbers, he never led the league in anything

1834
01:26:39,960 --> 01:26:43,599
Speaker 1: other than interceptions, which he led three times and so,

1835
01:26:43,640 --> 01:26:47,080
Speaker 1: but you accumulate numbers because he started a lot of games,

1836
01:26:47,120 --> 01:26:49,760
Speaker 1: and he played a long time, and he never led

1837
01:26:49,760 --> 01:26:52,960
Speaker 1: the league in anything in a regular season. He did

1838
01:26:52,960 --> 01:26:54,920
Speaker 1: win the two Super Bowls, so did Jim plunk it,

1839
01:26:55,000 --> 01:26:59,880
Speaker 1: by the way, But I want to know your criteria

1840
01:27:00,439 --> 01:27:05,400
Speaker 1: in judging a career in terms of acknowledging that that

1841
01:27:05,520 --> 01:27:10,719
Speaker 1: individual should be quote unquote immortalized in a Hall of Fame.

1842
01:27:11,000 --> 01:27:13,960
Speaker 3: Well, number one for me is where you're a winner.

1843
01:27:14,320 --> 01:27:17,400
Speaker 3: That's got to be number one. Did you win Number two?

1844
01:27:17,720 --> 01:27:18,559
Speaker 2: We're your numbers.

1845
01:27:18,920 --> 01:27:22,960
Speaker 3: But I have my own custom number three. Reason and

1846
01:27:23,160 --> 01:27:27,880
Speaker 3: once again, impact and put the tape on and the

1847
01:27:27,920 --> 01:27:29,800
Speaker 3: guy I always go to you and I have had

1848
01:27:29,800 --> 01:27:35,000
Speaker 3: this discussion already before Bo Jackson four years to get

1849
01:27:35,000 --> 01:27:37,479
Speaker 3: to the NFL who was twenty five only had nine

1850
01:27:37,560 --> 01:27:41,559
Speaker 3: hundred and sixty as is high. But when you put

1851
01:27:41,600 --> 01:27:46,559
Speaker 3: the tape on, he is easily one of the top

1852
01:27:46,760 --> 01:27:50,280
Speaker 3: five running backs and one of the top ten to

1853
01:27:50,479 --> 01:27:57,600
Speaker 3: fifteen NFL athlete players of all time. If you just

1854
01:27:57,720 --> 01:27:59,960
Speaker 3: put the tape on now, if you want to go

1855
01:28:00,040 --> 01:28:01,800
Speaker 3: to the numbers, just make sure you mentioned the fact

1856
01:28:01,840 --> 01:28:04,040
Speaker 3: that he had to get through baseball first. If you

1857
01:28:04,040 --> 01:28:05,759
Speaker 3: go to the numbers, just make sure you mentioned effect

1858
01:28:05,800 --> 01:28:08,120
Speaker 3: that and his own words on bow nose is thirty

1859
01:28:08,160 --> 01:28:11,479
Speaker 3: for thirty bow nose by the mothership. He literally said

1860
01:28:11,920 --> 01:28:16,520
Speaker 3: his first love was track, then was baseball, and football

1861
01:28:16,800 --> 01:28:18,439
Speaker 3: was something to do.

1862
01:28:18,680 --> 01:28:21,000
Speaker 2: And you believe the man when he said it, which

1863
01:28:21,040 --> 01:28:24,679
Speaker 2: means that who says that? Who says football was something

1864
01:28:24,720 --> 01:28:25,040
Speaker 2: to do?

1865
01:28:25,120 --> 01:28:28,040
Speaker 3: And I can literally show up on a Tuesday afternoon

1866
01:28:29,160 --> 01:28:32,559
Speaker 3: with my equipment, get put in the backfield, in the huddle,

1867
01:28:32,680 --> 01:28:35,599
Speaker 3: break the huddle, hand me the ball in seventy yards

1868
01:28:35,640 --> 01:28:39,040
Speaker 3: here we go. I walked out here with a juice

1869
01:28:39,080 --> 01:28:40,519
Speaker 3: box in the mini bag of Dorito's.

1870
01:28:40,520 --> 01:28:43,000
Speaker 2: I'm ready. That was Bo Jackson, but he's not in

1871
01:28:43,040 --> 01:28:43,360
Speaker 2: the hall.

1872
01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:46,000
Speaker 3: When you talk about a guy like Torell Davis, you

1873
01:28:46,040 --> 01:28:49,320
Speaker 3: talk about longevity. Longevity to me is good, like you said,

1874
01:28:49,520 --> 01:28:53,800
Speaker 3: it works for good players, but not till once again,

1875
01:28:53,840 --> 01:28:55,479
Speaker 3: as you say, not to get into a lothing about

1876
01:28:55,520 --> 01:28:59,120
Speaker 3: Kurt Warner. He had four or five good seasons like

1877
01:28:59,160 --> 01:29:02,920
Speaker 3: that was. It wasn't ten, twelve, fifteen, but people thought

1878
01:29:02,960 --> 01:29:05,360
Speaker 3: he was good enough for the short period of time

1879
01:29:05,400 --> 01:29:07,879
Speaker 3: We got to see him to put him in the hall, saying.

1880
01:29:07,680 --> 01:29:09,360
Speaker 2: With a guy like Terrell Davis.

1881
01:29:09,560 --> 01:29:11,960
Speaker 3: But then you see a guy like Antonio Gates, who's

1882
01:29:12,000 --> 01:29:14,640
Speaker 3: the all time leading touchdown catching tight ends, and for

1883
01:29:15,439 --> 01:29:20,120
Speaker 3: some reason, Devin Hester gets in before him, and he's

1884
01:29:20,160 --> 01:29:23,599
Speaker 3: a kick returner. Like it's just it's kind of weird

1885
01:29:23,640 --> 01:29:26,759
Speaker 3: how they do it. But I don't mind how certain

1886
01:29:26,800 --> 01:29:29,880
Speaker 3: guys get in. Certain guys Sterling Sharp should have been

1887
01:29:29,920 --> 01:29:31,799
Speaker 3: in the Hall of Fame if.

1888
01:29:31,680 --> 01:29:32,439
Speaker 2: You think about it.

1889
01:29:32,479 --> 01:29:35,800
Speaker 1: Sterling Sharp's last year was what ninety three, ninety four,

1890
01:29:36,120 --> 01:29:39,679
Speaker 1: I think ninety.

1891
01:29:38,120 --> 01:29:41,720
Speaker 3: Four k thirty one years later, you put this guy

1892
01:29:41,720 --> 01:29:42,559
Speaker 3: in the Hall of Fame.

1893
01:29:43,000 --> 01:29:44,519
Speaker 2: You gotta be kidding me.

1894
01:29:44,960 --> 01:29:50,200
Speaker 3: That is crazy when we all know Sterling Sharp, before

1895
01:29:50,520 --> 01:29:54,559
Speaker 3: home Grimm and Farv got there, carried the packers like

1896
01:29:54,600 --> 01:29:55,800
Speaker 3: he carried them.

1897
01:29:55,880 --> 01:29:58,639
Speaker 2: He had the man man, throw it to McGill, don.

1898
01:29:58,479 --> 01:30:02,439
Speaker 3: Mkowski throwing him the football guys. He and there's a

1899
01:30:02,479 --> 01:30:05,400
Speaker 3: guy that really missed out with an injury. On as

1900
01:30:05,439 --> 01:30:08,240
Speaker 3: far as what this franchise then took off to do,

1901
01:30:08,360 --> 01:30:11,599
Speaker 3: because remember they were dominated in the sixties, they were washed.

1902
01:30:12,000 --> 01:30:14,719
Speaker 2: The seventies and eighties, and all he got far.

1903
01:30:14,640 --> 01:30:16,360
Speaker 3: At the beginning of far even if they at the

1904
01:30:16,360 --> 01:30:18,960
Speaker 3: beginning coming from Atlanta. Okay, but that, by the way,

1905
01:30:19,000 --> 01:30:22,120
Speaker 3: here's the other thing about Sterling won Super Bowls in

1906
01:30:22,160 --> 01:30:23,639
Speaker 3: his seven years in Green Bay.

1907
01:30:23,720 --> 01:30:26,000
Speaker 1: He started every single game. They did not miss a

1908
01:30:26,080 --> 01:30:28,280
Speaker 1: singer the game. And then he hurt the neck and

1909
01:30:28,320 --> 01:30:30,519
Speaker 1: that was the end of it. Eighteen touchdowns in his

1910
01:30:30,600 --> 01:30:34,080
Speaker 1: last year, uh Man back to back years ninety two

1911
01:30:34,080 --> 01:30:36,599
Speaker 1: to ninety three, broke the single season record held by

1912
01:30:36,720 --> 01:30:39,800
Speaker 1: Art Monk most receptions in the year, right, I mean

1913
01:30:39,840 --> 01:30:42,600
Speaker 1: so no, no, I did take him this line. I

1914
01:30:42,720 --> 01:30:44,880
Speaker 1: put it this way, Sterling Sharp was a better player

1915
01:30:44,880 --> 01:30:46,840
Speaker 1: than Shannon Sharp by far.

1916
01:30:47,080 --> 01:30:50,040
Speaker 2: They wouldn't even close. By far. What it wasn't even close.

1917
01:30:50,080 --> 01:30:52,519
Speaker 3: And the only reason why we know who Shannon Sharp

1918
01:30:52,760 --> 01:30:56,000
Speaker 3: is as it continues today, is because of his TV career.

1919
01:30:56,160 --> 01:30:59,559
Speaker 3: He just stopped playing and then never did television. Shannon

1920
01:30:59,600 --> 01:31:01,599
Speaker 3: Sharp went not be a guy. We would be talking.

1921
01:31:01,720 --> 01:31:03,679
Speaker 1: By the way, I got to share a side story

1922
01:31:03,720 --> 01:31:06,799
Speaker 1: with you about Shannon Sharp, and we mentioned Antonio Gates.

1923
01:31:07,840 --> 01:31:11,760
Speaker 1: So remember late in his career, Antonio Gates got suspended

1924
01:31:11,960 --> 01:31:17,320
Speaker 1: for something, something he took right and said, and he

1925
01:31:17,320 --> 01:31:20,160
Speaker 1: even came forward about saying, you know, he was unaware

1926
01:31:20,280 --> 01:31:23,360
Speaker 1: whatever it was. So we're talking about it, and you know,

1927
01:31:23,400 --> 01:31:26,320
Speaker 1: I'm based in San Diego at this point, and all

1928
01:31:26,320 --> 01:31:29,200
Speaker 1: of a sudden, the producer gets in my ear.

1929
01:31:31,479 --> 01:31:34,160
Speaker 2: We have Shannon Sharp on the phone.

1930
01:31:34,439 --> 01:31:39,720
Speaker 1: I go, what, okay, you're sure, Shannon, and he's like, yeah,

1931
01:31:39,720 --> 01:31:42,800
Speaker 1: I hit Shannon Sharp. I said, all right, well join

1932
01:31:42,920 --> 01:31:45,400
Speaker 1: us right now, the Hall of Famer, Shannon Sharp. Shannon,

1933
01:31:45,439 --> 01:31:47,680
Speaker 1: thanks for joining us. You want to have something. And

1934
01:31:47,680 --> 01:31:49,200
Speaker 1: he comes on and he goes, you know, and you know,

1935
01:31:49,400 --> 01:31:53,560
Speaker 1: Shannon start, but he goes, that eliminates Gates from the

1936
01:31:53,600 --> 01:31:59,360
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. That just eliminated Antonio Gates from the

1937
01:31:59,400 --> 01:32:04,320
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. And I'm like, what I mean? Was

1938
01:32:04,360 --> 01:32:08,439
Speaker 1: he dripping with jealousy that Antonio Gates shattered all of

1939
01:32:08,439 --> 01:32:10,600
Speaker 1: his records or whatever records he thought he had or

1940
01:32:10,640 --> 01:32:14,280
Speaker 1: whatever it was was he calls in on a show.

1941
01:32:14,880 --> 01:32:16,840
Speaker 2: I didn't ask him to call. I don't even know.

1942
01:32:16,960 --> 01:32:19,360
Speaker 1: I guess we give out a number, right went he

1943
01:32:19,400 --> 01:32:23,559
Speaker 1: don't take calls, and Shannon Sharp called to say, yeah, well,

1944
01:32:23,600 --> 01:32:25,760
Speaker 1: Antonio Gates just got eliminated from the Hall of Fame.

1945
01:32:26,160 --> 01:32:29,679
Speaker 3: Well he's the all time leading tight end with touchdown.

1946
01:32:29,720 --> 01:32:33,600
Speaker 3: So there's enough enough guy play. I almost wanted to

1947
01:32:33,640 --> 01:32:36,240
Speaker 3: hang up on the guy. Immedi said, when you're in

1948
01:32:36,280 --> 01:32:37,800
Speaker 3: the Hall of Fame and Sterling's not in the Hall

1949
01:32:37,840 --> 01:32:40,280
Speaker 3: of Fame. My thing is with the Hall of famers,

1950
01:32:40,280 --> 01:32:41,680
Speaker 3: Like I said, put the tape on with some of

1951
01:32:41,760 --> 01:32:42,960
Speaker 3: these guys some longevity.

1952
01:32:42,960 --> 01:32:45,040
Speaker 2: It works, like you said, it works for good play.

1953
01:32:45,120 --> 01:32:48,480
Speaker 2: Like you mentioned earlier right clicko with Mark Gaston.

1954
01:32:48,560 --> 01:32:51,280
Speaker 1: One those guys, Lecco had a shorter career because he

1955
01:32:51,320 --> 01:32:51,880
Speaker 1: had injury.

1956
01:32:52,080 --> 01:32:54,120
Speaker 2: Right, he was a dominant play.

1957
01:32:54,160 --> 01:32:57,040
Speaker 1: He was another guy that took the Seniors Committee in

1958
01:32:57,040 --> 01:33:00,960
Speaker 1: a short period. Absolutely, he was an All Pro at

1959
01:33:00,960 --> 01:33:04,840
Speaker 1: three positions, as a nose tackle, as a defensive end,

1960
01:33:05,080 --> 01:33:06,360
Speaker 1: and as a defensive tackle.

1961
01:33:06,439 --> 01:33:07,880
Speaker 2: So what about a guy that Eric Allen.

1962
01:33:08,240 --> 01:33:10,559
Speaker 3: The longevity works for him because he was not ever

1963
01:33:10,920 --> 01:33:13,439
Speaker 3: the best corner in football. I agree with him, but

1964
01:33:13,560 --> 01:33:17,640
Speaker 3: he was a good to great corner for ten plus years.

1965
01:33:17,520 --> 01:33:19,519
Speaker 2: Well and on an island.

1966
01:33:19,760 --> 01:33:21,800
Speaker 1: And as I've said one hundred times, I mean, Eric

1967
01:33:21,840 --> 01:33:25,200
Speaker 1: Allen is literally one of my favorite and for years

1968
01:33:25,200 --> 01:33:27,360
Speaker 1: and years and years. You know, he came out of

1969
01:33:27,360 --> 01:33:29,519
Speaker 1: the state. He's from San Diego, so that's how real

1970
01:33:29,720 --> 01:33:32,800
Speaker 1: he got. He told me that, you know, early in

1971
01:33:32,840 --> 01:33:35,519
Speaker 1: his career, he remembered, you know, on my station down there,

1972
01:33:35,840 --> 01:33:38,080
Speaker 1: he's with the Eagles and the Saints' courts, finished up

1973
01:33:38,080 --> 01:33:40,400
Speaker 1: with the Raiders. I remember his next to last year

1974
01:33:40,400 --> 01:33:40,960
Speaker 1: with the Raiders.

1975
01:33:40,960 --> 01:33:41,559
Speaker 2: This was a.

1976
01:33:41,640 --> 01:33:46,080
Speaker 1: Thirty five year old cornerback. Three interception returns for touchdowns.

1977
01:33:46,560 --> 01:33:49,439
Speaker 1: Is a pig, said that, and he you know, but

1978
01:33:49,479 --> 01:33:51,519
Speaker 1: I always thought he's one of those guys that's gonna

1979
01:33:51,520 --> 01:33:52,519
Speaker 1: fly under the radar.

1980
01:33:52,600 --> 01:33:54,840
Speaker 2: He didn't win a Super Bowl, you know, everything else.

1981
01:33:55,280 --> 01:33:58,120
Speaker 1: So when he finally got the call this year, I mean,

1982
01:33:58,160 --> 01:34:00,559
Speaker 1: this is a guy that you know, hammered out fourteen

1983
01:34:00,640 --> 01:34:03,559
Speaker 1: seasons on the corner and only one year did he.

1984
01:34:03,560 --> 01:34:04,360
Speaker 2: Miss him in a game.

1985
01:34:05,120 --> 01:34:08,439
Speaker 1: So he was durable, he was consistent, and I'm so

1986
01:34:08,479 --> 01:34:09,479
Speaker 1: happy he's right there with me.

1987
01:34:09,520 --> 01:34:11,360
Speaker 3: With a guy like Rod Woodson, you know, there's no

1988
01:34:11,439 --> 01:34:15,599
Speaker 3: big Rod Woodson. Woodson was a pick six guy also too,

1989
01:34:15,960 --> 01:34:19,400
Speaker 3: but he had the longevity of being good to great

1990
01:34:19,439 --> 01:34:22,080
Speaker 3: for what Rod Woodson though was never quite was never

1991
01:34:22,160 --> 01:34:25,200
Speaker 3: said the best corner in football because he played during

1992
01:34:25,200 --> 01:34:27,080
Speaker 3: a guy named Deon Sanders this time.

1993
01:34:26,880 --> 01:34:30,200
Speaker 1: Well, Darryl Green played twenty years there it is, so

1994
01:34:30,400 --> 01:34:32,679
Speaker 1: that was one of those guys like an art monk

1995
01:34:32,920 --> 01:34:35,840
Speaker 1: Charlie Joyner as a wide receiver of the Chargers where

1996
01:34:35,960 --> 01:34:40,200
Speaker 1: they accumulated numbers dominant, but there weren't a lot of

1997
01:34:40,240 --> 01:34:44,599
Speaker 1: individual seasons where they were like the guy. They were

1998
01:34:44,640 --> 01:34:48,880
Speaker 1: rewarded for being consistent over a long period of down.

1999
01:34:49,000 --> 01:34:53,200
Speaker 2: Tim Brown other one just just consistent for years.

2000
01:34:52,920 --> 01:34:55,599
Speaker 1: And he largely Yeah, a lot of guys like large

2001
01:34:55,640 --> 01:34:57,519
Speaker 1: one was the all time lady receiver when he retired.

2002
01:34:57,560 --> 01:34:59,919
Speaker 3: So I don't know, everyone's got a little different criteria

2003
01:35:00,640 --> 01:35:02,680
Speaker 3: when it comes to the Hall. Do you think all

2004
01:35:02,760 --> 01:35:04,639
Speaker 3: times something gets you in? Because you mentioned that about

2005
01:35:04,680 --> 01:35:06,680
Speaker 3: larger and larger as that's the reason he's a Hall

2006
01:35:06,680 --> 01:35:08,160
Speaker 3: of Fame. I think he's a Hall of Famer because

2007
01:35:08,240 --> 01:35:11,360
Speaker 3: the guy was just consistent for ten twelve straight years,

2008
01:35:11,640 --> 01:35:14,000
Speaker 3: like like the only thing that we had in Seattle

2009
01:35:14,200 --> 01:35:16,720
Speaker 3: other than you know, some of the quarterbacks there from

2010
01:35:16,720 --> 01:35:20,320
Speaker 3: time to time, the Blades brothers up there and the Cortes,

2011
01:35:20,400 --> 01:35:21,439
Speaker 3: Kennedy and those guys.

2012
01:35:21,520 --> 01:35:22,880
Speaker 2: I told you this before.

2013
01:35:23,040 --> 01:35:26,759
Speaker 1: When you know, we we played the Seahawks every year obviously,

2014
01:35:26,920 --> 01:35:28,559
Speaker 1: and they they had our number.

2015
01:35:28,400 --> 01:35:29,559
Speaker 2: Up in Seattle, the Old King.

2016
01:35:29,720 --> 01:35:32,439
Speaker 1: Really we had back to back years the Raiders lost

2017
01:35:32,479 --> 01:35:35,040
Speaker 1: thirty three to three and thirty seven nothing up there.

2018
01:35:35,120 --> 01:35:36,120
Speaker 2: Wow, they're about that.

2019
01:35:36,200 --> 01:35:39,040
Speaker 1: So Lester Hayes was, you know, is another guy that

2020
01:35:39,120 --> 01:35:40,840
Speaker 1: should be in the Hall of Fame. He's been a

2021
01:35:40,880 --> 01:35:44,639
Speaker 1: finalist several times. But anyway, Judge was he hated playing

2022
01:35:44,640 --> 01:35:46,439
Speaker 1: against large and I go, what was it? He goes,

2023
01:35:47,920 --> 01:35:50,840
Speaker 1: they could be running a straight off tackle play. Now

2024
01:35:50,880 --> 01:35:53,920
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just a focused on I'm not watching there.

2025
01:35:53,960 --> 01:35:55,280
Speaker 1: I'm I'm on larger.

2026
01:35:55,960 --> 01:36:00,000
Speaker 2: He would run out every row every play. I can't

2027
01:36:00,160 --> 01:36:01,920
Speaker 2: block you, so I'm just gonna take you.

2028
01:36:02,880 --> 01:36:05,040
Speaker 1: So I'm sitting there and I'm like, you know, and

2029
01:36:05,080 --> 01:36:07,799
Speaker 1: this guy's running a pattern everything else. The play's already

2030
01:36:07,920 --> 01:36:10,200
Speaker 1: over because they run an off tackle play.

2031
01:36:10,240 --> 01:36:11,439
Speaker 2: It's like, what are you doing?

2032
01:36:11,680 --> 01:36:13,519
Speaker 1: You know, a lot of receivers are if it's an

2033
01:36:13,520 --> 01:36:16,960
Speaker 1: off tackle. They never get off the last how receivers

2034
01:36:16,960 --> 01:36:20,000
Speaker 1: are nowadays. Yeah, no, they did it.

2035
01:36:20,439 --> 01:36:24,480
Speaker 2: But he would run out the pattern every single.

2036
01:36:24,520 --> 01:36:26,680
Speaker 3: Time because he wasn't big, so he wasn't going to

2037
01:36:26,720 --> 01:36:28,920
Speaker 3: block a lot of corners. So I'm going to run

2038
01:36:28,960 --> 01:36:31,439
Speaker 3: my route and make you think that it's a pass

2039
01:36:31,479 --> 01:36:35,040
Speaker 3: play just to take you away from it's as good

2040
01:36:35,080 --> 01:36:37,000
Speaker 3: as a block by running you off.

2041
01:36:37,000 --> 01:36:39,719
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm with you there with large it man. Okay.

2042
01:36:39,840 --> 01:36:42,200
Speaker 1: On the other side, guess what else is coming up?

2043
01:36:42,880 --> 01:36:51,160
Speaker 1: Baseball trade deadline? Oh, joy, buyers, sellers. That's really the question.

2044
01:36:52,040 --> 01:36:55,519
Speaker 1: When is it time to throw in the towel and

2045
01:36:55,640 --> 01:36:59,519
Speaker 1: admit this ain't going to be our year? Got some

2046
01:36:59,640 --> 01:37:03,600
Speaker 1: teams on the bubble will break down the winners and

2047
01:37:03,640 --> 01:37:08,240
Speaker 1: the losers. This is Fox Sports Sunday, Harvin and Husky,

2048
01:37:08,920 --> 01:37:14,200
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Sunday Live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.

2049
01:37:16,120 --> 01:37:18,240
Speaker 1: All right, so we have the Hall of Fame game

2050
01:37:18,280 --> 01:37:20,920
Speaker 1: coming up on Thursday, which is also, by the way,

2051
01:37:21,920 --> 01:37:25,240
Speaker 1: Trey deadline in Major League Baseball. So every team right

2052
01:37:25,320 --> 01:37:28,639
Speaker 1: now on the bubble has to take a long look

2053
01:37:28,640 --> 01:37:33,080
Speaker 1: in the mirror, long look in the mirror, and say,

2054
01:37:33,120 --> 01:37:36,120
Speaker 1: are we legitimate contenders to make a run to the

2055
01:37:36,120 --> 01:37:41,320
Speaker 1: postseason or is this season effectively over. That's the big

2056
01:37:41,400 --> 01:37:44,960
Speaker 1: question because again, there are teams that are at the

2057
01:37:44,960 --> 01:37:48,200
Speaker 1: top trying to I mean, any team right now that

2058
01:37:48,320 --> 01:37:51,040
Speaker 1: is on their way to the postseason is looking for

2059
01:37:51,160 --> 01:37:54,360
Speaker 1: any edge, anything they can add to their roster to

2060
01:37:54,439 --> 01:37:57,439
Speaker 1: help that run to the finish line. Right So, let

2061
01:37:57,880 --> 01:38:00,360
Speaker 1: me talk about a bubble team right now. Not be

2062
01:38:00,400 --> 01:38:02,040
Speaker 1: thinking about this team, but I'm thinking.

2063
01:38:01,800 --> 01:38:03,240
Speaker 2: About this, and I guess first.

2064
01:38:04,800 --> 01:38:07,120
Speaker 1: It's an AL team.

2065
01:38:06,439 --> 01:38:10,240
Speaker 3: A bubble team that you would think right now, I'll

2066
01:38:10,240 --> 01:38:11,360
Speaker 3: take a swing Twins.

2067
01:38:12,200 --> 01:38:14,479
Speaker 2: Tins would be a good question. But my thought is

2068
01:38:14,520 --> 01:38:17,479
Speaker 2: the Rangers. You know what, I know what?

2069
01:38:18,240 --> 01:38:18,439
Speaker 10: You know?

2070
01:38:20,040 --> 01:38:22,280
Speaker 2: I love giddy do y'all hear it? Is all right?

2071
01:38:22,320 --> 01:38:24,360
Speaker 2: They're on a five game winning streak. They're half game

2072
01:38:24,400 --> 01:38:24,680
Speaker 2: out of.

2073
01:38:24,680 --> 01:38:27,320
Speaker 1: The wild card right now, and you're watching the Red Sox,

2074
01:38:27,320 --> 01:38:30,679
Speaker 1: by the way, suddenly beating the Dodgers, by the way.

2075
01:38:31,560 --> 01:38:33,920
Speaker 2: All right, So I'll leave the Rangers out of it.

2076
01:38:34,040 --> 01:38:37,479
Speaker 1: But the American League is interesting because you got the

2077
01:38:37,600 --> 01:38:40,400
Speaker 1: Raised three games out, the Guardians are three games out,

2078
01:38:40,439 --> 01:38:42,280
Speaker 1: the Royals are four and a half out, the Twins

2079
01:38:42,320 --> 01:38:44,640
Speaker 1: are five, and the Angels five and a half. So

2080
01:38:44,680 --> 01:38:48,559
Speaker 1: the Orioles, Athletics, White Sox, they're out. So those teams though,

2081
01:38:48,600 --> 01:38:51,919
Speaker 1: even the Angels five, I know they're playing bad baseball.

2082
01:38:52,000 --> 01:38:57,759
Speaker 1: I know the Angels are sellers. Yes, okay, Twins are sellers. See.

2083
01:38:58,200 --> 01:39:01,160
Speaker 3: My thing with the Twins is they were playing well

2084
01:39:01,640 --> 01:39:04,960
Speaker 3: and then went through some injuries, and I just think,

2085
01:39:04,960 --> 01:39:06,800
Speaker 3: if you get if, if they can get, I mean

2086
01:39:06,880 --> 01:39:10,680
Speaker 3: think about rotation and one more games left, yes, and

2087
01:39:10,720 --> 01:39:13,600
Speaker 3: one more bat if they can get, then one more bat.

2088
01:39:13,880 --> 01:39:15,840
Speaker 2: I think I think they can make a move.

2089
01:39:15,960 --> 01:39:18,599
Speaker 3: But I think anybody below them, you know what, all right,

2090
01:39:18,600 --> 01:39:21,000
Speaker 3: my cutoff line will be the Twins, Twins and down

2091
01:39:21,000 --> 01:39:21,479
Speaker 3: they're done.

2092
01:39:21,560 --> 01:39:21,920
Speaker 2: Okay.

2093
01:39:21,960 --> 01:39:25,479
Speaker 1: It's interesting that because the timing is so beautiful in

2094
01:39:25,520 --> 01:39:28,439
Speaker 1: baseball for the trade deadline, because it's right at the

2095
01:39:28,479 --> 01:39:30,439
Speaker 1: two thirds mark. You still have a third of a

2096
01:39:30,520 --> 01:39:32,840
Speaker 1: season left, right, you know, when you when you start

2097
01:39:32,880 --> 01:39:34,960
Speaker 1: a season. I love this breakdown, and there has been

2098
01:39:35,000 --> 01:39:37,759
Speaker 1: few exceptions to this. One hundred and sixty two games.

2099
01:39:39,120 --> 01:39:41,639
Speaker 1: Every team's going to win fifty four and every team's

2100
01:39:41,680 --> 01:39:44,360
Speaker 1: going to lose fifty four. It's the other fifty four

2101
01:39:44,400 --> 01:39:48,000
Speaker 1: games that decide how your season's going to go. Right, Okay,

2102
01:39:48,080 --> 01:39:50,479
Speaker 1: So it's it's a it's a beautiful cutoff, like if

2103
01:39:50,479 --> 01:39:53,080
Speaker 1: it was at the end of August, well, and then

2104
01:39:53,080 --> 01:39:56,920
Speaker 1: then you know this, it's a whole different dynamic. So

2105
01:39:57,040 --> 01:39:58,920
Speaker 1: that's a lot of players. Now if you look at

2106
01:39:58,920 --> 01:40:02,920
Speaker 1: the same bar in the National League, very similar situation.

2107
01:40:04,040 --> 01:40:06,840
Speaker 1: Giants are two out, Cardinals two and a half, Marlin's five,

2108
01:40:06,960 --> 01:40:08,080
Speaker 1: Diamondbacks five and a.

2109
01:40:08,080 --> 01:40:10,400
Speaker 3: Half, and it cuts right there because the Braids are

2110
01:40:10,439 --> 01:40:13,000
Speaker 3: about to get swept by the Ring Brays, Pirates, Nationals.

2111
01:40:13,080 --> 01:40:15,960
Speaker 1: Rocke, Yeah, can you believe the Rockies are fifty games

2112
01:40:15,960 --> 01:40:17,040
Speaker 1: will low five hundred? Yeah?

2113
01:40:17,040 --> 01:40:20,200
Speaker 2: I can, because they've been terrible all year. Lost eighteen

2114
01:40:20,200 --> 01:40:21,799
Speaker 2: to nothing yesterday to the Orioles.

2115
01:40:21,920 --> 01:40:24,439
Speaker 3: I saw that, but eighteen to nothing, and I think

2116
01:40:24,479 --> 01:40:26,360
Speaker 3: they still might have got a shot to get that record.

2117
01:40:26,400 --> 01:40:28,719
Speaker 3: I don't think they will now they're winning some games

2118
01:40:29,120 --> 01:40:31,120
Speaker 3: here and there, start to score some runs like they

2119
01:40:31,120 --> 01:40:33,679
Speaker 3: want to be professional. But in the National League though,

2120
01:40:33,920 --> 01:40:36,680
Speaker 3: from my cutoff, I think I cut it off at

2121
01:40:36,680 --> 01:40:39,320
Speaker 3: the Cardinals Marlin's right now. I know there's fifty something

2122
01:40:39,360 --> 01:40:42,719
Speaker 3: games less, but five games out of the wild card

2123
01:40:43,280 --> 01:40:47,360
Speaker 3: is is a tall hill to climb because you still

2124
01:40:47,439 --> 01:40:50,920
Speaker 3: have the three wildcard teams right now, and the brew Crew,

2125
01:40:51,120 --> 01:40:53,920
Speaker 3: the Phillies and the Padres. And then you still have

2126
01:40:53,960 --> 01:40:56,000
Speaker 3: the Reds that just are half a game out, and

2127
01:40:56,040 --> 01:40:57,880
Speaker 3: you have the San Francisco Giants that are two and

2128
01:40:57,920 --> 01:41:00,120
Speaker 3: a half out. But if San Francis goes somehow or

2129
01:41:00,160 --> 01:41:03,720
Speaker 3: to Padre somehow catch the Dodgers. Now you have a

2130
01:41:03,760 --> 01:41:06,960
Speaker 3: powerful Dodger team as a wild card, and they're not

2131
01:41:06,960 --> 01:41:09,080
Speaker 3: going to lose a bunch of games. So I'll cut

2132
01:41:09,080 --> 01:41:11,920
Speaker 3: the line off with them at about the Cardinals.

2133
01:41:11,640 --> 01:41:15,479
Speaker 2: Anybody outside of that, anything else to have three? I

2134
01:41:15,520 --> 01:41:16,840
Speaker 2: agree the wild card.

2135
01:41:17,600 --> 01:41:20,360
Speaker 1: You know, you don't have an out in the American

2136
01:41:20,439 --> 01:41:25,680
Speaker 1: League Royals, Twins, Angels out out, Guardian Rangers.

2137
01:41:25,760 --> 01:41:27,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, money and the Rangers will be in it.

2138
01:41:27,479 --> 01:41:27,639
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2139
01:41:27,720 --> 01:41:30,679
Speaker 1: And then on the Nation League side, Cardinals, Giants, and Reds.

2140
01:41:30,840 --> 01:41:32,439
Speaker 2: I need the Dodger to come back right now.

2141
01:41:32,479 --> 01:41:35,400
Speaker 3: And because you have to leave over bodies right exactly

2142
01:41:35,520 --> 01:41:38,639
Speaker 3: whole point and playing well ahead of you, they would

2143
01:41:38,680 --> 01:41:42,639
Speaker 3: all have to pull a US open in the final

2144
01:41:42,760 --> 01:41:46,599
Speaker 3: round and all fall down, so one guy can act

2145
01:41:46,640 --> 01:41:47,920
Speaker 3: like he came back and won it.

2146
01:41:48,000 --> 01:41:51,000
Speaker 1: By the way, the Dodgers right now, the Dodgers have

2147
01:41:51,080 --> 01:41:54,840
Speaker 1: been very fortunate because the entire divisions playing lousy baseball.

2148
01:41:55,040 --> 01:41:57,080
Speaker 1: I don't know how the Giants have hung on? How

2149
01:41:57,120 --> 01:41:59,920
Speaker 1: about Verlander took right start?

2150
01:42:03,000 --> 01:42:06,600
Speaker 2: Wait? How does that go? I we are talking.

2151
01:42:06,360 --> 01:42:09,880
Speaker 1: Yesterday's I mean it was he was zero and eight

2152
01:42:10,040 --> 01:42:13,200
Speaker 1: with eight no decisions and sixteen starts and he was

2153
01:42:13,280 --> 01:42:16,280
Speaker 1: still out there out there just we get you know,

2154
01:42:16,400 --> 01:42:20,519
Speaker 1: it's like, wow, Okay, Rolls done a great job there.

2155
01:42:20,560 --> 01:42:22,720
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, but real fast. The AL team to throw

2156
01:42:22,720 --> 01:42:24,639
Speaker 3: at you, what's up? What the Yankees right now? Remember

2157
01:42:24,800 --> 01:42:26,280
Speaker 3: we've been talking to First.

2158
01:42:26,080 --> 01:42:28,240
Speaker 1: Of all, you have no Garrett Cole for the entire

2159
01:42:28,280 --> 01:42:33,000
Speaker 1: seat right and then the io now right, And that's

2160
01:42:33,000 --> 01:42:35,479
Speaker 1: a big problem because we don't know I mean, they're

2161
01:42:35,479 --> 01:42:37,720
Speaker 1: they're talking about. It's the kind of injury where he

2162
01:42:37,720 --> 01:42:40,360
Speaker 1: could return as a DH. Okay, well what are you

2163
01:42:40,400 --> 01:42:41,160
Speaker 1: gonna do with Stanton?

2164
01:42:41,600 --> 01:42:42,040
Speaker 2: Thank you?

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01:42:42,240 --> 01:42:46,160
Speaker 1: Okay, that's the only that's the only position Stanton com play, right,

2166
01:42:46,200 --> 01:42:46,920
Speaker 1: because you can't.

2167
01:42:46,720 --> 01:42:48,600
Speaker 2: Put him on the diamond. He can't put him anywhere. No,

2168
01:42:48,720 --> 01:42:49,960
Speaker 2: he's a d ah rarely.

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01:42:50,320 --> 01:42:53,160
Speaker 1: So if you're gonna have to use that DH spot on, judge,

2170
01:42:53,520 --> 01:42:55,600
Speaker 1: the Yankees are behind the eight ball from the get go.

2171
01:42:55,680 --> 01:42:58,240
Speaker 1: When your Ace goes down before the season begins. That

2172
01:42:58,520 --> 01:43:03,080
Speaker 1: that's hard, that's real hard to overcome. So I wilso

2173
01:43:03,200 --> 01:43:05,200
Speaker 1: like the Dodgers. Right by the way, the Dodgers made

2174
01:43:05,240 --> 01:43:10,120
Speaker 1: an announcement today as show hey Otani continues to add innings.

2175
01:43:10,160 --> 01:43:11,240
Speaker 2: Now they're ready to put.

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01:43:11,120 --> 01:43:15,040
Speaker 1: Him in the rotation, like as a legitimate starter, meaning

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01:43:15,040 --> 01:43:17,000
Speaker 1: that he's going to pitch more than two or three innings.

2178
01:43:17,280 --> 01:43:19,240
Speaker 2: But they're going to go with a six man rotation.

2179
01:43:20,080 --> 01:43:25,080
Speaker 1: Well, that's that's a problem because that means you've got

2180
01:43:25,080 --> 01:43:27,960
Speaker 1: guys going out there on a regular rotation basis.

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01:43:28,000 --> 01:43:29,759
Speaker 2: That suck.

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01:43:30,040 --> 01:43:33,160
Speaker 1: Okay, when you're a team where you're starting pitchers have

2183
01:43:33,240 --> 01:43:36,799
Speaker 1: averaged the fewest innings of any team in baseball, meaning

2184
01:43:37,280 --> 01:43:39,759
Speaker 1: your bullpen has logged more innings than any.

2185
01:43:39,560 --> 01:43:40,680
Speaker 2: Other team in baseball.

2186
01:43:41,240 --> 01:43:45,320
Speaker 1: The Dodgers are trying desperately to make several moves on

2187
01:43:45,400 --> 01:43:48,639
Speaker 1: the trade deadline. They need back end bullpen help. Tanner

2188
01:43:48,680 --> 01:43:50,800
Speaker 1: Scott's been a bust. Now he's on the injury They

2189
01:43:50,840 --> 01:43:52,880
Speaker 1: have twelve pitchers on the injury list right now.

2190
01:43:53,000 --> 01:43:55,200
Speaker 2: They're hoping that Snell's going to finally come back.

2191
01:43:55,240 --> 01:43:57,880
Speaker 1: He started two games before he got shelved they're hoping

2192
01:43:57,960 --> 01:44:00,960
Speaker 1: Roki Sasaki, who was the over betting favored to be

2193
01:44:01,080 --> 01:44:04,400
Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year. He looked terrible with the Dodgers

2194
01:44:04,400 --> 01:44:06,400
Speaker 1: this year. They're hoping he's going to come back strong.

2195
01:44:07,200 --> 01:44:08,680
Speaker 1: But what are you willing to give up? See that's

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01:44:08,720 --> 01:44:11,599
Speaker 1: the other question, exactly when you're on the bubble and

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01:44:11,640 --> 01:44:14,160
Speaker 1: you're ready to gut your farm system to bring in

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01:44:14,200 --> 01:44:16,040
Speaker 1: a player that you think is going to take you

2199
01:44:16,080 --> 01:44:18,640
Speaker 1: across the finish line, and if it doesn't happen to

2200
01:44:18,760 --> 01:44:21,120
Speaker 1: end up with a double loss, they should be able to.

2201
01:44:21,080 --> 01:44:23,920
Speaker 2: Hold off the rest of the n West.

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01:44:23,920 --> 01:44:26,519
Speaker 3: They should be able to hold off the rest of

2203
01:44:27,160 --> 01:44:29,240
Speaker 3: everybody else. If you look at each team in that

2204
01:44:29,280 --> 01:44:33,120
Speaker 3: division in the last ten, Dodgers five and five, Padres

2205
01:44:33,120 --> 01:44:36,719
Speaker 3: four and six, the Giants are two and eight, they've

2206
01:44:36,800 --> 01:44:39,720
Speaker 3: just fallen off lately, and then the d Backs, who

2207
01:44:39,760 --> 01:44:42,439
Speaker 3: you're a team you're mentioning the al five plus more

2208
01:44:42,439 --> 01:44:44,680
Speaker 3: out of the wild car five and five and in

2209
01:44:44,760 --> 01:44:45,880
Speaker 3: a course to the do you.

2210
01:44:45,920 --> 01:44:48,599
Speaker 1: Realize if the Dodgers lose this game to the Red Sox,

2211
01:44:48,640 --> 01:44:50,640
Speaker 1: it's four to three right now in the seven the

2212
01:44:50,640 --> 01:44:53,320
Speaker 1: Red Sox, they're going to drop to the fourth best

2213
01:44:53,320 --> 01:44:55,920
Speaker 1: record in the National League behind the Cubs, Brewers, and Mets.

2214
01:44:56,160 --> 01:44:58,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, but the Dodgers are to me like one of

2215
01:44:58,280 --> 01:45:01,320
Speaker 3: those teams. They have championship mental now they've been there.

2216
01:45:01,439 --> 01:45:04,320
Speaker 3: They don't have they don't have to finish these but

2217
01:45:04,360 --> 01:45:07,880
Speaker 3: they don't have to finish with the number one seed

2218
01:45:08,120 --> 01:45:09,240
Speaker 3: in the NL playoffs.

2219
01:45:09,240 --> 01:45:11,880
Speaker 2: The Dodgers are our team. They've just got to get there,

2220
01:45:11,920 --> 01:45:12,200
Speaker 2: all right.

2221
01:45:12,200 --> 01:45:14,240
Speaker 1: We need to find out from somebody very close to

2222
01:45:14,280 --> 01:45:18,120
Speaker 1: the situation right now. Let's find out what is trending.

2223
01:45:18,880 --> 01:45:22,080
Speaker 1: So Mansie, what is your months He's had a long

2224
01:45:22,080 --> 01:45:23,519
Speaker 1: time association with the Dodgers.

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01:45:23,560 --> 01:45:26,200
Speaker 2: What's your dodge its what?

2226
01:45:26,200 --> 01:45:29,519
Speaker 1: What are your expectations for this week leading up to

2227
01:45:29,560 --> 01:45:30,439
Speaker 1: the trade deadline?

2228
01:45:30,479 --> 01:45:31,000
Speaker 2: The Dodgers is.

2229
01:45:31,000 --> 01:45:33,360
Speaker 1: Going to make a bunch of deals? Are they going

2230
01:45:33,439 --> 01:45:37,000
Speaker 1: to Stan Pat? Would you got your farm system to

2231
01:45:37,080 --> 01:45:40,400
Speaker 1: try to get a player or two? That's going to

2232
01:45:40,439 --> 01:45:42,479
Speaker 1: be the difference in you know, because now that you've

2233
01:45:42,520 --> 01:45:46,680
Speaker 1: set the bar, it's either win it all or the

2234
01:45:46,720 --> 01:45:52,120
Speaker 1: season is a bust. I mean, how would you handle

2235
01:45:52,160 --> 01:45:53,080
Speaker 1: this if you're the Dodgers?

2236
01:45:53,120 --> 01:45:54,920
Speaker 7: Where the trade a loaded question?

2237
01:45:55,360 --> 01:45:58,599
Speaker 2: Of course it is. I only ask ask questions.

2238
01:45:58,960 --> 01:46:01,680
Speaker 7: One is not going to make the difference. Yeah, you

2239
01:46:01,720 --> 01:46:03,800
Speaker 7: could use the third basement, but so can everyone else

2240
01:46:03,800 --> 01:46:06,280
Speaker 7: on their mom everyone else is going for Heno swat Is.

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01:46:06,880 --> 01:46:08,320
Speaker 7: We could use the third basement.

2242
01:46:08,120 --> 01:46:09,439
Speaker 2: But how about a closer.

2243
01:46:09,840 --> 01:46:11,519
Speaker 7: We could use Emmanuel Classe But.

2244
01:46:11,520 --> 01:46:14,800
Speaker 2: You know, we don't know about try Is he going

2245
01:46:14,880 --> 01:46:15,320
Speaker 2: to get back?

2246
01:46:15,840 --> 01:46:18,599
Speaker 7: But there's so many there's so many question marks right

2247
01:46:18,640 --> 01:46:20,959
Speaker 7: now when it comes to the Dodgers, like the closer,

2248
01:46:21,240 --> 01:46:24,200
Speaker 7: what's going on with Mooki? Mooki is also in and

2249
01:46:24,240 --> 01:46:29,000
Speaker 7: out of struggling hitting from leadoff position or not. I

2250
01:46:29,040 --> 01:46:33,439
Speaker 7: don't I think focus on what you I if I'm

2251
01:46:33,439 --> 01:46:35,920
Speaker 7: the Dodgers, I focus on the team I have now

2252
01:46:38,000 --> 01:46:39,439
Speaker 7: and getting rid of our.

2253
01:46:39,720 --> 01:46:41,400
Speaker 1: I mean, how much longer are you gonna have Mooki

2254
01:46:41,479 --> 01:46:43,559
Speaker 1: batty first or second in the line? I mean.

2255
01:46:45,600 --> 01:46:47,599
Speaker 2: Forty now? I mean, yeah, you need.

2256
01:46:47,479 --> 01:46:50,519
Speaker 1: A shortstop, but most shortstops are at the bottom of

2257
01:46:50,560 --> 01:46:53,640
Speaker 1: the order, right And that's that's what Mooki looks like

2258
01:46:53,720 --> 01:46:55,400
Speaker 1: right now, is the bottom of the order.

2259
01:46:55,880 --> 01:46:58,160
Speaker 2: Good field can hit shortstop.

2260
01:46:58,360 --> 01:47:01,519
Speaker 7: Not even that he's so low right now, Like if

2261
01:47:01,520 --> 01:47:06,080
Speaker 7: you something seems all since Japan, remember he got sick

2262
01:47:06,160 --> 01:47:10,320
Speaker 7: and that weight. Something's up and I don't know if

2263
01:47:10,360 --> 01:47:13,120
Speaker 7: we know if we're gonna find out, because it's not

2264
01:47:13,200 --> 01:47:15,680
Speaker 7: just the hitting and the fielding. He's running slow and

2265
01:47:15,760 --> 01:47:18,679
Speaker 7: yet he's lost weight. Like, I don't know, it doesn't

2266
01:47:18,720 --> 01:47:20,280
Speaker 7: look the same, he doesn't.

2267
01:47:20,479 --> 01:47:21,400
Speaker 2: I agree with you, though.

2268
01:47:21,320 --> 01:47:23,800
Speaker 3: I'm with you go with what you have now, because

2269
01:47:23,840 --> 01:47:26,760
Speaker 3: you guys have championship and mental now, Like like I

2270
01:47:27,280 --> 01:47:30,200
Speaker 3: just told Steve, if the Dodgers are team, just get

2271
01:47:30,280 --> 01:47:32,559
Speaker 3: to the playoffs. Yeah, and we'll go and we'll go

2272
01:47:32,600 --> 01:47:34,200
Speaker 3: from there. We don't have to be the number one

2273
01:47:34,280 --> 01:47:35,639
Speaker 3: seed in the NL.

2274
01:47:35,880 --> 01:47:39,360
Speaker 7: Yeah. I I do agree that it's you know, win

2275
01:47:39,479 --> 01:47:42,120
Speaker 7: or bust. But I think getting to the World Series

2276
01:47:42,160 --> 01:47:45,919
Speaker 7: would be enough because there hasn't been a repeat champion

2277
01:47:46,160 --> 01:47:48,200
Speaker 7: in baseball and how long, Like it's hard to do

2278
01:47:48,439 --> 01:47:48,920
Speaker 7: if they.

2279
01:47:48,880 --> 01:47:52,560
Speaker 2: Lose another World Series. They lost back to back. Of

2280
01:47:52,640 --> 01:47:53,760
Speaker 2: course they were robbed.

2281
01:47:53,479 --> 01:47:56,519
Speaker 7: And yeah, I don't. I know the expectation is to win,

2282
01:47:56,600 --> 01:47:57,720
Speaker 7: but it's like that's is that.

2283
01:47:57,680 --> 01:47:59,720
Speaker 2: A real championship? Last year?

2284
01:47:59,760 --> 01:48:03,439
Speaker 3: Base All World Series carries you five to six years.

2285
01:48:03,800 --> 01:48:05,559
Speaker 3: If you don't get back. If they don't win it

2286
01:48:05,600 --> 01:48:07,920
Speaker 3: this year, no one is going to be calling for

2287
01:48:08,080 --> 01:48:08,800
Speaker 3: heads to role.

2288
01:48:10,560 --> 01:48:12,439
Speaker 2: We just won the whole damn thing last.

2289
01:48:12,320 --> 01:48:14,559
Speaker 1: But if they lose in the first round of the playoffs,

2290
01:48:14,640 --> 01:48:18,360
Speaker 1: if they did those back to back in Arizona, still know, I.

2291
01:48:18,280 --> 01:48:20,519
Speaker 7: Mean, that's gonna be pretty bad. If they lose, that.

2292
01:48:20,439 --> 01:48:23,719
Speaker 2: Would be bad. But we still got this rare But.

2293
01:48:23,640 --> 01:48:26,000
Speaker 7: It's it's from a year ago, right, But it's like

2294
01:48:26,120 --> 01:48:29,559
Speaker 7: the roster you put together is a roster that should

2295
01:48:29,560 --> 01:48:31,160
Speaker 7: take you past that first round.

2296
01:48:31,479 --> 01:48:36,240
Speaker 3: Like your injuries have this I mean, so you can

2297
01:48:36,320 --> 01:48:38,800
Speaker 3: have Kershoff's giving, so you can get this three thousand.

2298
01:48:39,120 --> 01:48:41,040
Speaker 3: That's WoT could have been used for a younger, more

2299
01:48:41,080 --> 01:48:43,679
Speaker 3: effective pitcher. But you want Kershaw to get the three

2300
01:48:43,680 --> 01:48:45,559
Speaker 3: thousand into you, you sacrifice some.

2301
01:48:45,520 --> 01:48:49,080
Speaker 7: Of those things, something Rookie Sosaki's injury, you know, like

2302
01:48:49,120 --> 01:48:51,160
Speaker 7: there's been other he didn't we didn't.

2303
01:48:51,240 --> 01:48:54,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I've asked this hypothetical many, many times

2304
01:48:54,720 --> 01:48:58,400
Speaker 1: about you know, long droughts or you know teams that

2305
01:48:58,439 --> 01:48:59,640
Speaker 1: have never won a championship.

2306
01:48:59,680 --> 01:49:00,080
Speaker 2: Scene.

2307
01:49:00,200 --> 01:49:02,800
Speaker 1: Okay, let's say the Padres, Right, I did this with

2308
01:49:02,840 --> 01:49:04,720
Speaker 1: the Padres and never won a World Series. If the

2309
01:49:04,720 --> 01:49:06,960
Speaker 1: Padres won the World Series and I told you they'd

2310
01:49:07,000 --> 01:49:09,360
Speaker 1: have a losing record for the next fifteen years in

2311
01:49:09,360 --> 01:49:10,280
Speaker 1: a row, would you take it?

2312
01:49:10,360 --> 01:49:12,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, you've asked me that never clippers, right.

2313
01:49:11,960 --> 01:49:14,360
Speaker 2: And exactly, and you're like, yes, I take it. Yeah.

2314
01:49:14,840 --> 01:49:17,800
Speaker 1: Everyone says that, and occasionally a team then breaks through

2315
01:49:17,880 --> 01:49:20,120
Speaker 1: and does have a year like that, and then they

2316
01:49:20,160 --> 01:49:22,719
Speaker 1: do fall back and then people gets upset.

2317
01:49:22,880 --> 01:49:25,960
Speaker 2: Yeah what happened, man, we won the championship. That was sucking.

2318
01:49:26,560 --> 01:49:28,439
Speaker 1: Wait a second, I told you you signed the pack

2319
01:49:28,520 --> 01:49:31,360
Speaker 1: with the devil right there. I gave you that ultimatum

2320
01:49:31,400 --> 01:49:33,200
Speaker 1: and you said you're okay with it. Now you're not

2321
01:49:33,240 --> 01:49:33,880
Speaker 1: okay with it.

2322
01:49:33,960 --> 01:49:34,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, no, it's not.

2323
01:49:35,280 --> 01:49:38,760
Speaker 1: Dodger fans expect a championship because that is what Dave

2324
01:49:38,880 --> 01:49:40,040
Speaker 1: Roberts promised them.

2325
01:49:40,120 --> 01:49:43,200
Speaker 7: Well, he's promised that before and hasn't delivered. So we're good.

2326
01:49:43,280 --> 01:49:46,000
Speaker 7: We survived that year. All right, guys, Let's let's check

2327
01:49:46,040 --> 01:49:48,080
Speaker 7: in on the Dodgers right now. They're in Boston and

2328
01:49:48,280 --> 01:49:50,400
Speaker 7: they're losing to the Red Sox four to three in five.

2329
01:49:50,520 --> 01:49:53,879
Speaker 7: Mookie Bets is right now on the plate with Otani

2330
01:49:53,960 --> 01:49:56,000
Speaker 7: on deck. It is the top of the eighth inning.

2331
01:49:56,160 --> 01:49:58,120
Speaker 7: Dodgers have a man on first space and they have

2332
01:49:58,160 --> 01:49:59,960
Speaker 7: all their outs to go, so they have an opportunity

2333
01:50:00,200 --> 01:50:02,000
Speaker 7: to take the lead. Here. It's the top of the

2334
01:50:02,120 --> 01:50:04,120
Speaker 7: ninth inning in the Bronx where the Yankees are trying

2335
01:50:04,160 --> 01:50:06,679
Speaker 7: to hold on against the Phillies. It's four to three.

2336
01:50:06,960 --> 01:50:09,360
Speaker 7: Billies are down to their final out. Cups have a

2337
01:50:09,400 --> 01:50:11,280
Speaker 7: five to one lead over the White Sox in Chicago.

2338
01:50:11,320 --> 01:50:14,200
Speaker 7: Bottom of the eighth inning, Marlins and Brewers are tied

2339
01:50:14,200 --> 01:50:16,280
Speaker 7: at two a piece. Bottom of the eighth inning. If

2340
01:50:16,320 --> 01:50:20,080
Speaker 7: Miami sneaks in there and gets the final log cards.

2341
01:50:20,479 --> 01:50:29,880
Speaker 12: They beat good teams up they all season, Like, I know.

2342
01:50:29,800 --> 01:50:32,200
Speaker 7: They're five games out of against If they sneak in there,

2343
01:50:32,200 --> 01:50:34,719
Speaker 7: I'm going to laugh so hard. The A's are shutting

2344
01:50:34,720 --> 01:50:36,720
Speaker 7: out the Astro six zero, top of the ninth. The

2345
01:50:36,800 --> 01:50:38,639
Speaker 7: Nationals with the seven to two lead over the Twins,

2346
01:50:38,640 --> 01:50:40,360
Speaker 7: also top of the ninth. It's the top of the

2347
01:50:40,360 --> 01:50:42,600
Speaker 7: eighth in Saint Louis, but the Padres having eight to

2348
01:50:42,600 --> 01:50:45,400
Speaker 7: two lead over the Cardinals. Still all Rangers so far

2349
01:50:45,400 --> 01:50:47,840
Speaker 7: against the Braves eight one, bottom of the seventh. Oh so,

2350
01:50:48,000 --> 01:50:51,160
Speaker 7: what an underwhelming season for the Atlanta Braids. I don't

2351
01:50:51,160 --> 01:50:54,200
Speaker 7: think they're gonna sneak in there. Surprisingly. I would have

2352
01:50:54,200 --> 01:50:55,439
Speaker 7: put money at the start of the season that they

2353
01:50:55,479 --> 01:50:55,720
Speaker 7: get in.

2354
01:50:55,720 --> 01:50:59,240
Speaker 2: The play well, I mean, the best player for most

2355
01:50:59,280 --> 01:51:01,040
Speaker 2: of the years. That didn't help at the start of

2356
01:51:01,080 --> 01:51:01,439
Speaker 2: the season.

2357
01:51:03,479 --> 01:51:06,840
Speaker 3: It's win World Series three years ago, literally, and then

2358
01:51:06,880 --> 01:51:08,960
Speaker 3: literally they've gone into the tank.

2359
01:51:09,439 --> 01:51:11,400
Speaker 2: They're double diges on the five hundred.

2360
01:51:11,160 --> 01:51:13,240
Speaker 7: Right now, doubled I think eleven games.

2361
01:51:13,040 --> 01:51:18,400
Speaker 3: They started like three and twelve this year forteen games.

2362
01:51:18,920 --> 01:51:21,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, no, it's rough games that have wrapped up the Pirates.

2363
01:51:21,960 --> 01:51:24,840
Speaker 7: Shout out the Diamondbacks six zero. Paul Skeins pitched six innings,

2364
01:51:24,840 --> 01:51:27,719
Speaker 7: gave up three hits, had nine strikeouts, gave up no runs.

2365
01:51:27,840 --> 01:51:30,400
Speaker 7: Orioles defeated the Rockies five to one. The Reds edged

2366
01:51:30,439 --> 01:51:32,680
Speaker 7: the Rays two to one. Reds and Dodgers are going

2367
01:51:32,720 --> 01:51:35,320
Speaker 7: to start that series soon. And Tigers snapped their six

2368
01:51:35,360 --> 01:51:38,000
Speaker 7: game losing streak. They topped the Blue Jays tenth to four.

2369
01:51:38,280 --> 01:51:41,320
Speaker 7: The Royals defeated the Guardians four to one. NFL News

2370
01:51:41,600 --> 01:51:44,200
Speaker 7: left tackle Rashaun Slater is now the highest paid offensive

2371
01:51:44,200 --> 01:51:46,400
Speaker 7: lineman in NFL history. He and the Chargers agreed on

2372
01:51:46,439 --> 01:51:49,080
Speaker 7: a four year, one hundred and fourteen million dollars contract extension.

2373
01:51:49,360 --> 01:51:52,160
Speaker 7: And Brown's quarterback can you Pick It? Was injured at

2374
01:51:52,160 --> 01:51:54,760
Speaker 7: the end of Saturday's practice a hamstring injury, so he's

2375
01:51:54,800 --> 01:51:57,639
Speaker 7: expected to be re evaluated later this week.

2376
01:51:58,040 --> 01:51:59,759
Speaker 2: Back to you guys, a right.

2377
01:52:00,240 --> 01:52:02,280
Speaker 1: See, by the way, months he's got a show with

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Speaker 1: Carrie coming up here at the top of the hour.

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Speaker 1: Look forward to that and Carrie Wrotes. All right, once again,

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Speaker 1: this is Fox Sports Sunday and a Fox Sports Radio Studios.

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Speaker 1: show posted right after we get out the air. By

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Speaker 1: the way, I have a good news for you. The

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01:52:34,080 --> 01:52:36,639
Speaker 1: president of the Shudoor Sanders Fan.

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Speaker 2: I was about to say it to you. I was

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01:52:38,640 --> 01:52:40,640
Speaker 2: about to say it to you. So can he piketty

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Speaker 2: string in? Yeah, start down.

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01:52:43,680 --> 01:52:47,920
Speaker 3: One down, one down, because we know hamstrings in July.

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Speaker 3: Guess what they don't do well, guys over the next

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Speaker 3: two to three months.

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01:52:51,800 --> 01:52:56,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't heal well. All right, So Picky the shelf.

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Speaker 1: He's going to be reevaluated later this week, which means

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01:53:01,000 --> 01:53:04,360
Speaker 1: more reps for Joe Flacco, Dylan Gabriel and yes m

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Speaker 1: Shodor Sanders.

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Speaker 2: By the way.

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Speaker 1: Stefanski Kevin Stefanski, coach of the brown said the QB

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01:53:14,360 --> 01:53:17,800
Speaker 1: rotation would be fluid during the first week at camp

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01:53:18,640 --> 01:53:21,200
Speaker 1: and that he and the offensive staff will meet to

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Speaker 1: discuss any changes for week two. They're gonna have their

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01:53:26,080 --> 01:53:29,800
Speaker 1: first padded practice coming up tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: None of this stuff matters. What I I'm gonna tell

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Speaker 2: you this one.

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01:53:33,160 --> 01:53:36,880
Speaker 3: Preseason team I'm not gonna miss other than my Dolphins

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01:53:37,640 --> 01:53:40,240
Speaker 3: is the Cleveland Browns. Because you know NFL Network runs

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01:53:40,280 --> 01:53:41,800
Speaker 3: they rerun every preseason game.

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01:53:41,920 --> 01:53:43,880
Speaker 2: I set my DVR, I go back and watch them all.

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01:53:44,240 --> 01:53:48,160
Speaker 3: I'm gonna really watch these Cleveland brown reps and quarterback

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01:53:48,600 --> 01:53:51,360
Speaker 3: during game. Flecco's out of this thing. Guys, even if

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Speaker 3: he is the starter, he's not gonna last all year long.

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Speaker 3: He's just happy to be here. I sat to watch

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Speaker 3: his interview at camp yesterday on NFL Network. When they

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01:53:59,080 --> 01:54:00,519
Speaker 3: go to the camp and they bring a guy over

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01:54:00,520 --> 01:54:03,439
Speaker 3: and they saying, so you can tell he's he's on

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01:54:03,479 --> 01:54:04,400
Speaker 3: his sunset tour.

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01:54:04,560 --> 01:54:06,880
Speaker 2: You could feel it. And the guy's interviewing him.

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01:54:06,920 --> 01:54:08,840
Speaker 3: They said the same thing, you know, and he's he's

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01:54:08,840 --> 01:54:11,639
Speaker 3: having more fun. His kids are older, so his kids

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01:54:11,760 --> 01:54:14,080
Speaker 3: get to kind of see the end, and he's ragging

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Speaker 3: on the young players, and the young players are calling

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01:54:15,920 --> 01:54:18,000
Speaker 3: him old man and grandpa, and I'm having so much fun.

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01:54:18,160 --> 01:54:20,439
Speaker 3: It said to me that guy's good for about four

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01:54:20,520 --> 01:54:23,360
Speaker 3: or five games. He's just happy to be in the

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01:54:23,520 --> 01:54:26,280
Speaker 3: last sunset part of his career. This thing is gonna

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01:54:26,280 --> 01:54:30,480
Speaker 3: come down between Dylan Gabriel and Shador Sanders.

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01:54:30,800 --> 01:54:32,800
Speaker 2: And when we when we put the tape on and

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01:54:32,840 --> 01:54:35,160
Speaker 2: see them on the field, we're gonna see what's up,

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Speaker 2: all right.

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Speaker 1: I know that with the uh perfet picks or overrunders

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01:54:41,400 --> 01:54:47,360
Speaker 1: half so well. I went back to San Diego in

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Speaker 1: twenty fourteen and Johnny Manziel was going into his rookie

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Speaker 1: year with the Browns, and I was just a big

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01:54:57,840 --> 01:55:01,680
Speaker 1: Johnny Manziel guy, big, big, big big, and I couldn't

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Speaker 1: understand why anybody would think this guy who was so

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01:55:04,960 --> 01:55:08,200
Speaker 1: brilliant at the collegiate level would be anything different at

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Speaker 1: the pro level. So my partner and I had a

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Speaker 1: bet that year on how many wins Johnny Manzell would

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Speaker 1: have as a starting quarterback that year. So I thought

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Speaker 1: to myself, all right, they're not a great team, but

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01:55:26,400 --> 01:55:31,200
Speaker 1: I say he'll win at least four games, four or

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01:55:31,280 --> 01:55:37,200
Speaker 1: five games. I was very confident in that that year

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01:55:37,480 --> 01:55:40,520
Speaker 1: as a rookie, he was zero to two. In fact,

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01:55:40,600 --> 01:55:44,320
Speaker 1: for his career he was two and six as a

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Speaker 1: starting quarterback. So I don't want to throw it out

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01:55:48,040 --> 01:55:49,680
Speaker 1: now because I think we could use it with the

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01:55:49,760 --> 01:55:57,880
Speaker 1: perfet picks. But having an over under on wins by

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Speaker 1: Shador Sanders were as a starting quarterback for the Browns

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Speaker 1: this season.

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Speaker 3: You know why you're coming up with this. I have

2453
01:56:05,480 --> 01:56:07,520
Speaker 3: a very sneaky suspicion while you're coming up with this,

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01:56:07,600 --> 01:56:11,640
Speaker 3: because you guys know you're over under half of a

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01:56:11,720 --> 01:56:15,000
Speaker 3: game he starts this year is gonna lose. So now

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01:56:15,000 --> 01:56:16,920
Speaker 3: we gotta go to, well, how many games is he

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01:56:17,000 --> 01:56:17,440
Speaker 3: gonna win?

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01:56:17,480 --> 01:56:17,680
Speaker 4: Nope?

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01:56:18,080 --> 01:56:20,000
Speaker 3: I had some people thought that he wasn't even gonna

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01:56:20,000 --> 01:56:22,080
Speaker 3: be in the NFL this year. He's gonna be the

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01:56:22,120 --> 01:56:24,960
Speaker 3: starting quarterback at some point for the Cleveland Browns.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well how about this?

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Speaker 1: How about the over under on which game he'll be

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01:56:29,760 --> 01:56:31,360
Speaker 1: the starting quarterback.

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01:56:31,040 --> 01:56:37,160
Speaker 2: Depends on how FLA course. I love a challenge, bro, don't.

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01:56:37,160 --> 01:56:38,920
Speaker 3: I don't run from no challenge. You know me, so

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01:56:39,120 --> 01:56:41,680
Speaker 3: no problem. Let's fill over the next few weeks. Let's

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01:56:41,680 --> 01:56:43,960
Speaker 3: say it somewhere. But it's all gonna depend on what

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01:56:44,080 --> 01:56:46,840
Speaker 3: Flacco really looks like, because I think, honestly, I don't

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01:56:46,840 --> 01:56:47,600
Speaker 3: think Flack's the.

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Speaker 2: Opening day start.

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01:56:48,440 --> 01:56:51,880
Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be Chris Gabriel's gonna be your door,

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01:56:51,920 --> 01:56:52,200
Speaker 3: all right.

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01:56:52,280 --> 01:56:55,600
Speaker 1: With the of the thing, a future over under for

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01:56:55,720 --> 01:57:00,200
Speaker 1: the perfect picks concerning Shador Sanders, either how much any

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01:57:00,320 --> 01:57:03,560
Speaker 1: wins he will have as a starting quarterback this season

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01:57:03,640 --> 01:57:08,560
Speaker 1: as a Brown or which game will he become the

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01:57:08,600 --> 01:57:09,760
Speaker 1: starting quarterback?

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01:57:09,920 --> 01:57:14,600
Speaker 2: So well, I'll leave it up to you.

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01:57:14,760 --> 01:57:18,720
Speaker 1: I mean, I get it, it's too early to do

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01:57:18,800 --> 01:57:21,320
Speaker 1: that right now, But in the next couple of weeks,

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01:57:21,360 --> 01:57:24,760
Speaker 1: I think think about an over under with ser Sanders,

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01:57:24,800 --> 01:57:27,040
Speaker 1: either based on how many wins you'll have as a

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01:57:27,080 --> 01:57:30,440
Speaker 1: starting quarterback this year or which game he'll become the

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01:57:30,480 --> 01:57:32,440
Speaker 1: starting quarterback of the Cleveland brook And.

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Speaker 2: If you do, if you do winsor if you do,

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01:57:34,480 --> 01:57:34,920
Speaker 2: which game?

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01:57:34,960 --> 01:57:37,760
Speaker 3: Can we at least wait till the second preseason game, Like,

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01:57:37,840 --> 01:57:40,560
Speaker 3: let's get a look with the quarterback I look like

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01:57:40,640 --> 01:57:43,120
Speaker 3: out there, so instead of going blind, we have some

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01:57:43,280 --> 01:57:43,960
Speaker 3: take to go back.

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01:57:43,960 --> 01:57:47,240
Speaker 2: I agree with it. We can agree on that. That's fair.

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01:57:47,360 --> 01:57:47,840
Speaker 2: That's all right.

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01:57:47,880 --> 01:57:49,680
Speaker 1: Coming up on the other side, what is going to

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01:57:49,760 --> 01:57:52,040
Speaker 1: transpire over the course of this upcoming week.

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01:57:52,040 --> 01:57:55,320
Speaker 2: We're gonna break it down. This is Fox Sports Sunday.

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01:57:55,360 --> 01:58:00,200
Speaker 1: Harvin and Husky Fox Sports Sunday here in the Fox

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01:58:00,240 --> 01:58:03,040
Speaker 1: Sports Radio in the studios. Want to thank our crew today.

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01:58:03,600 --> 01:58:05,800
Speaker 1: MAT's he doing a brilliant job as she also gets

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01:58:05,800 --> 01:58:08,200
Speaker 1: ready for her show coming up here with Carrie Rhodes

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01:58:08,240 --> 01:58:12,360
Speaker 1: at the top of the hour, Chris Pherfat, we we're

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01:58:12,440 --> 01:58:16,120
Speaker 1: throwing out some real thoughts for your uh perfet picks here.

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01:58:16,160 --> 01:58:16,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the point.

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01:58:17,120 --> 01:58:18,960
Speaker 9: Yeah, we got no thoughts. Want to come down there

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01:58:19,280 --> 01:58:21,440
Speaker 9: firing off, just picks. The whole point is for you

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01:58:21,440 --> 01:58:23,400
Speaker 9: guys to start yelling at each other. Yeah, well we

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01:58:23,440 --> 01:58:25,360
Speaker 9: got we got something the water.

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01:58:25,160 --> 01:58:26,920
Speaker 2: I'm making here for these two Beta ficials.

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01:58:27,040 --> 01:58:30,200
Speaker 1: We got some things that were definitely on opposite sides there.

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01:58:30,200 --> 01:58:34,680
Speaker 1: And then the guy that holds fish metaphors too.

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01:58:34,760 --> 01:58:36,840
Speaker 3: I know you just did Alpha. I got beef with

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01:58:36,880 --> 01:58:39,560
Speaker 3: Shade though you and Sha Shad.

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01:58:40,440 --> 01:58:45,640
Speaker 1: First of all, there were some fences to be mended

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01:58:45,640 --> 01:58:48,920
Speaker 1: here with you and Shaye because your stance on the

2515
01:58:49,000 --> 01:58:53,600
Speaker 1: Lakers and Lebron has rubbed him the wrong ways from

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01:58:53,640 --> 01:58:54,120
Speaker 1: the beginning.

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01:58:54,160 --> 01:58:56,120
Speaker 2: St so you know everything.

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01:58:56,200 --> 01:58:58,000
Speaker 1: So when you know when when you know v J

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01:58:58,120 --> 01:59:00,480
Speaker 1: and I hooked up and Shae was, you know, annoyed

2520
01:59:00,560 --> 01:59:01,120
Speaker 1: our producer.

2521
01:59:01,160 --> 01:59:02,720
Speaker 2: I'm thinking, I don't know about this.

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01:59:02,960 --> 01:59:05,440
Speaker 3: No, man, I'm beef with Shade, man, because Shade, like you,

2523
01:59:05,520 --> 01:59:07,240
Speaker 3: I don't feel like you give us love. Man Like

2524
01:59:07,280 --> 01:59:09,120
Speaker 3: I look up in the window and I want to

2525
01:59:09,160 --> 01:59:11,560
Speaker 3: see your smiling face there and you be gone.

2526
01:59:11,600 --> 01:59:14,280
Speaker 2: Dog. You be moving around the building a little much.

2527
01:59:14,280 --> 01:59:14,440
Speaker 5: Man.

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01:59:14,480 --> 01:59:16,280
Speaker 1: Well, he's got he's got a lot on his mouth.

2529
01:59:16,560 --> 01:59:17,520
Speaker 2: I get it. I get it.

2530
01:59:17,560 --> 01:59:20,160
Speaker 11: But I want my attention to so so so you

2531
01:59:20,200 --> 01:59:23,400
Speaker 11: know the difference is so Steve comes to me pre show,

2532
01:59:24,000 --> 01:59:25,440
Speaker 11: so I don't got to move around, you know.

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01:59:25,480 --> 01:59:27,240
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm able to talk to Steve. It's good.

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01:59:27,280 --> 01:59:30,840
Speaker 11: I know what I'm doing a ready, Manzi. Unfortunately she's

2535
01:59:30,840 --> 01:59:32,640
Speaker 11: on the other side, so I gotta walk over there.

2536
01:59:32,640 --> 01:59:35,640
Speaker 3: I know, I see, I see where does that leave

2537
01:59:36,080 --> 01:59:39,600
Speaker 3: VJ and VJ? That leaves that leaves you leaving early

2538
01:59:40,240 --> 01:59:43,040
Speaker 3: after the show. Yeah, I know, man, I just can

2539
01:59:43,160 --> 01:59:45,480
Speaker 3: talk after we come with I just I just want

2540
01:59:45,480 --> 01:59:48,840
Speaker 3: the same love and attention that everybody else is getting. Dog,

2541
01:59:48,920 --> 01:59:51,440
Speaker 3: I have traumatizations for my childhood, so y'all got to

2542
01:59:51,440 --> 01:59:51,680
Speaker 3: help me.

2543
01:59:51,880 --> 01:59:52,520
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do better.

2544
01:59:52,560 --> 01:59:55,000
Speaker 11: You know what I'm gonna I'm giving you excuses right now.

2545
01:59:55,560 --> 01:59:55,760
Speaker 2: Better.

2546
01:59:56,880 --> 01:59:58,680
Speaker 11: I know what this is. This is a cry for help,

2547
01:59:58,720 --> 02:00:02,600
Speaker 11: and I'll do better. Shut I'm sorry, guys, They're from

2548
02:00:02,640 --> 02:00:04,120
Speaker 11: the bottom of my heart. I'm sorry.

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02:00:04,280 --> 02:00:07,840
Speaker 1: Oh, No, one thing I I I enjoy about shape.

2550
02:00:08,800 --> 02:00:09,040
Speaker 1: You know.

2551
02:00:09,280 --> 02:00:11,800
Speaker 2: I am a notorious.

2552
02:00:11,200 --> 02:00:17,600
Speaker 1: Talker, and I share everything. I share my personal life.

2553
02:00:17,680 --> 02:00:22,000
Speaker 1: I share my thoughts on literally everything to anybody that

2554
02:00:22,040 --> 02:00:26,280
Speaker 1: will listen, and most people don't, but they'll sort of

2555
02:00:26,360 --> 02:00:29,880
Speaker 1: feign a response, like they'll pretend. You know, there are

2556
02:00:29,920 --> 02:00:32,560
Speaker 1: certain people will give me that eye contact even though

2557
02:00:32,560 --> 02:00:35,120
Speaker 1: there's a blank stare like that. They want to be

2558
02:00:35,200 --> 02:00:38,880
Speaker 1: courteous like that. It's been around a long time. Yeah,

2559
02:00:39,440 --> 02:00:45,760
Speaker 1: he's he's an old guy. Here's a lot about Shay.

2560
02:00:46,800 --> 02:00:51,600
Speaker 1: Shay will make it clear to me instantly that whatever

2561
02:00:51,640 --> 02:00:55,120
Speaker 1: I'm talking about either is of any substance at all

2562
02:00:55,280 --> 02:01:00,080
Speaker 1: or is completely worthless to him in the moment, and

2563
02:01:00,120 --> 02:01:03,800
Speaker 1: so I can I almost stopped immediately with Shaye because

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02:01:04,160 --> 02:01:05,320
Speaker 1: he will like, look at it.

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02:01:05,320 --> 02:01:05,560
Speaker 2: I don't.

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02:01:06,360 --> 02:01:09,040
Speaker 1: If you want to talk, that's fine, but understand, I

2567
02:01:09,280 --> 02:01:10,840
Speaker 1: literally don't care about what you're doing.

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02:01:11,000 --> 02:01:12,880
Speaker 2: You should get class. You should give classes. And I

2569
02:01:12,960 --> 02:01:14,600
Speaker 2: like that. I think that's solid.

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02:01:14,680 --> 02:01:17,240
Speaker 3: Give classes how to get rid of Hartman in under

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02:01:17,280 --> 02:01:17,960
Speaker 3: thirty seconds.

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02:01:19,040 --> 02:01:22,520
Speaker 2: I should give classes. I think that I might ever had.

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02:01:23,760 --> 02:01:25,680
Speaker 2: I got these for twenty dollars. You know.

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02:01:25,720 --> 02:01:28,080
Speaker 1: These are the readers and they work absolutely perfect for me.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's get ready, God bless everybody will take over.

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Speaker 2: Keep it here on Fox Sports Radio