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We are watching oil. 9 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: Oil is rising with global equities and its speculation that 10 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: a production freezes by some OPEC members and Russia could 11 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: eventually help to abate the surplus. NIMAX screwed oil is 12 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:40,480 Speaker 1: currently up six point three percent. It's been extending its 13 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: gains throughout the morning. It's up a dollar eighty seven 14 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: to thirty one dollars fifty one cents. A barrel Brent 15 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: is up five point two per cent, or a dollar 16 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: seventy four to thirty four seventy five of barrel. U 17 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: Stock Index futures higher as well. SNP EVENI futures up 18 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: twenty one points, Dowie Mini futures up a hundred eighty five, 19 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: and NASA documni futures up about forty six decks in 20 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: Germany's up one point nine percent ten. Your Treasury down 21 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:06,319 Speaker 1: five thirty seconds, the yield one point seven six percent. 22 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: Comas Gold is down one point six percent, or nineteen 23 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 1: dollars to twelve eleven eighty announced the euro a dollar 24 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 1: ten twenty the yen one thirteen point one seven. Ding Foods, 25 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: the largest US milk processor, posting fourth quarter profit that 26 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 1: beat out a lists Estamates after it paid less for 27 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: dairy supplies. It shares up almost four percent this morning, 28 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 1: and Allergan also beat. And that's a Bloomberg business flash. 29 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: Tom and Mike Karen, thanks so much again. I'm looking 30 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 1: at Kurve flattening today within a better risk on field again. 31 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: West Texas up a dollar ninety one, gets your attention. 32 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: Mark Zandi with us, with Moody in them and analyts 33 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: um as. We continue forward right now though it is 34 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: on Wall Street. The following is from Bloomberg View, opinions 35 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: and commentary from Bloomberg columnists. I'm Claim Crook, columnist for 36 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: Bloomberg View. How to account for the success of Donald Trump? 37 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 1: Put the class. I'm a British immigrant and I grew 38 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: up in a northern working class town. Moving to Oxford 39 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: and then London in the nineteen seventies, I learned something 40 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:11,519 Speaker 1: about snobbery, but I never witnessed the naked disdain for 41 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 1: the working class that America's metropolitan elite finds permissible in 42 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: two thousand and sixteen. The targets of this disdain understand 43 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 1: they're seen as bigots, too stupid to know what's good 44 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: for them. They don't like being looked down on, and 45 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 1: many of them are supporting Trump. Trump is outrageous, and 46 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 1: that's the point. This isn't about policies or promises. He 47 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 1: delights in offending the people who look down on his fans. 48 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: The more he offends those people, the better his supporters 49 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:42,799 Speaker 1: like it. Supporting Trump is an act of class protest, 50 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: not just over hard time, the effect of immigration on wages, 51 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: or the depredations of Wall Street. It's also, and perhaps 52 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: most of all, over lack of respect. That's something no 53 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:56,079 Speaker 1: American will stand for. I'm Clive Crook, a colonist for 54 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 1: Bloomberg View. For more Bloomberg opinion and commentary, please go 55 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 1: to bloom the View dot com, or you go on 56 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: the Bloomberg terminal. This has been Bloomberg View and Bloomberg 57 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: View commentaries can be here in hourly weekdays. I'm Bloomberg 58 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 1: Radio Michael. Let's bring back Marks Andy now chief economist 59 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: at Movies Analytics. So we're talking about the global economy 60 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: and how the US is sort of the engine of 61 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: the growth, and I want to get at that a 62 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: little bit Mark and talk about why do you think 63 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 1: that will continue? We had a very rough fourth quarter. 64 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: Are you in the camp that suggests that was maybe 65 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: an inventory correction and that we are back to, if 66 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: not a great level of growth, the plotting level that 67 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 1: we've experienced the last couple of years. Yeah, And the 68 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: fourth quarter was bad in terms of g d P. 69 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: It wasn't bad in terms of jobs. It's fact it 70 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: was fantastic in terms of job growth. And that's what's 71 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: the most important because at this pace of job growth 72 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: for a fast approaching full employment, which were months away from, 73 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: and that means stronger wage growth, and stronger wage growth 74 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: is the fodder for consumer spending and that's the engine 75 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: pert cool economic growth. So you know, as long as 76 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: the American company continue to hire UH and paerills continue 77 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: to expand, will be fine. And every indication is that 78 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: they will h you know, we the u un punt 79 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: turns claims are very low. They remained very very low. 80 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 1: And the most encouraging thing most recently is that the 81 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: number of people quitting their jobs has skyrocketed, which you know, 82 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: people don't do that unless they're so pretty comfortable that 83 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: they're gonna find another one. So, you know, as long 84 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: as the labor market hangs together, we'll be fine. Well, 85 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: Mike jump in here on this year better on the 86 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 1: Joel survey and all that, but this was a source 87 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: of conversation at least three times this weekend. Is people 88 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: really have shifted Mike on the enthusiasm to exit the job. Well, 89 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 1: the the quit rate certainly went up, and you know, 90 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: hiring in theory will continue as long as demand is strong, 91 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 1: and we saw reasonably good retail sales for the prior month. 92 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 1: I just want to mark what you hear from companies 93 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: and uh, once you think the possibility is that with 94 00:04:56,640 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 1: the volatility in markets and uncertain the out there, and 95 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: certainly with the crazy turns the presidential campaign has taken, 96 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: whether we will see ceo s just put things on 97 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 1: hold as they did in previous years when we had 98 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: these black Swans come out Greece and other things. Well, 99 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: I think clearly they're nervous. You know, in my business, 100 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 1: I talked to a lot of senior management ceo CFOs 101 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: and you know they're focused on their stock price, and 102 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 1: with the decline in stock values, it makes them anxious. 103 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: And it's more in stock prices volatively across all financial 104 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 1: markets globally. So there's no doubt about that. Uh. But 105 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 1: at least to this point, Uh, you know, there's no 106 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: indication sign that they've actually called up their human resource 107 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: head and said, you know, stop hiring or certainly no 108 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: one's saying lying off people. That hasn't happened. Uh. Investment 109 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: spending has been on the soft side. But but you 110 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:54,359 Speaker 1: know that's mostly energy. If exclude energy, where where is 111 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 1: it ex energy? You know, it's it's fine, it's you 112 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: know here, I'll give another statistic. Come in this recovery. Uh, 113 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 1: investment spending reel all in, you know, this whole shooting 114 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 1: match that business investment is four point eight percent peranum. 115 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 1: That's that's pretty good. I mean in the last expansion 116 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 1: in a decade ago, and that was a six year 117 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: long expansion peranum investment growth was four point one percent. 118 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: And if you look at investment in R and D 119 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 1: and intellectual property, which is you know, the most risky 120 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 1: stuff with long payoff payoffs, and you think people, if 121 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 1: their business are really scared to be pulling back on that, 122 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 1: you don't say it. So, yeah, they're nervous, there's no doubt, 123 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: but they're not nervous enough to say, you know, I'm 124 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 1: going to pull back here, at least not yet. What 125 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: about the the idea that the stock markets problems are 126 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: going to have a wealth impact on spending and that 127 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: could push us towards our session. Yeah, that's I worry 128 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 1: about that. You know, we've done some recent research that 129 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: indicates that the stock wealth effect is large by historical standards. Uh, 130 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 1: you know, historically the stock wealth effect is about two 131 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: three cents, So every dollar decline in stock prices would 132 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 1: reduce consumers spending ultimately by two three cents. That doesn't 133 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: sound like a lot, but you know, just to give 134 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: a sense of it, a temper cent decline in stock values, 135 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: which is roughly what we've experienced. Your peaked the current 136 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: is about two trillion dollars in well, so that adds 137 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: up to real money but if the wealth effect is 138 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: by six cents, and then might research suggests that it 139 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: might have gotten that high, then the damage will will 140 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: be greater. And you know that, and that goes right 141 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: to the heart of my thesis. You know that the 142 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 1: American consumers is gonna you keep spending. So that's the 143 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: key thing I worry about here, at least in the 144 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: very near term. You know what the damage is going 145 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: to be created by the financial turmoil. In the last 146 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: minute that we've got with you, Mark Sandy helped me 147 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: with the FED. Mike, I think we've been It's important 148 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: to understand with a meeting March sixteen, how fed free 149 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: we've been in conversation in research this morning. What will 150 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: you listen for from FED officials Marks Andy, Well, you 151 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: know we're coming in a full employment check. Uh, actual 152 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: inflation is actually picking up. Core inflation is picking up. 153 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:08,239 Speaker 1: Check we're not We're still below target, but we're moving 154 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 1: towards target. I think the key thing really will be 155 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: obviously what damage will this financial terminal do? But and 156 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: I think they'll be focused on unemployment trance claims and 157 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: labor market data to focus on that. But the real 158 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: thing I think they are now focused on is un 159 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 1: inflation expectations that feels really soft, and that continues to 160 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: be the case. I don't see they're just that's you know, 161 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: they're not gonna be able to check that box and 162 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:34,679 Speaker 1: they won't tighten monetary policys. What's your forecast for inflation. 163 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 1: We have seen a you know, definitely moving up of 164 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: core rates. It's gonna pick up. I mean, did my 165 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:44,839 Speaker 1: script roughly holds together? Because the labor markets tightening, We're 166 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 1: going to get wage growth, and then you lay on 167 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 1: top of that a very tight housing market. Vacancy rates 168 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 1: are thirty year lows and we're getting very strong rent growth. 169 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,679 Speaker 1: And healthcare costs are going to pick up because it's 170 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 1: very labor intensive and its wage costs rise, healthcare costs 171 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:00,080 Speaker 1: will rise, and the effects of Obamacare are gonna are 172 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 1: to fade a bit. So everything is adding up for inflation, 173 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 1: getting core inflation getting back to target over the next 174 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: year eighteen months, and then it's something beyond that. Mark Sandy, 175 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 1: thank you so much. With the moodies, Mike, the speakers 176 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: starting with February two today, Potter Fisher, Kaplan, Bullard in 177 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 1: New York City, Lockert Williams, Paul Brainerd, and finally Stanley 178 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: Fisher March seven. Before we descend into quiet, there will 179 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: be a lot of opinions expressed what is going to happen, 180 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: And we have a pretty good idea of where a 181 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: lot of people sit at the moment. And uh, it 182 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: was not unrealistic to expect the FED to do nothing. 183 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 1: On the sixteen, he played twenty minutes eight seconds of hockey. 184 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 1: That's a lot for anybody. The other night he is 185 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: forty four down in Florida, where you can I know 186 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: what you're talking about. If you say so, I would 187 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: note we can retire four fifty three second period Yager 188 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: from Kolakoff, who was born the year Yearrami Yager started playing, 189 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: and you see yokin In and then in the third 190 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,559 Speaker 1: period Yager from yokin In. And for those of you 191 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: who don't know hockey, it's much different when you score 192 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 1: when everybody's on the ice versus a power play when 193 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: the other team as a man in the penalty box. 194 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: Mr Yager scored two goals to win the game five 195 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 1: on five. Gotta give him credit. Remark. Remark reminds one 196 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: of Gordy Hunt playing into his fifties. You know, this 197 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 1: is maybe the roughest, hardest sport, and the people perform. 198 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: If you had power play goals, they'd say, okay, they 199 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 1: set him up, the big gun in the slot, blah 200 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 1: blah blah. Two goals five on five at ato Is. 201 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: I don't believe I've ever said that at any time 202 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 1: or place. Futures up. Two, dry cheers up. One think 203 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 1: yet one thirteen twenty one. Weaker again today with a 204 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 1: little bit no nicely stronger dollar. I should say, another 205 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: hour of Bloomberg surveillance. You need to be with this. 206 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: Thank you,