1 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:06,279 Speaker 1: All right, his way up with Angela. Yee. I'm so excited. 2 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 2: You know, this is part of our insolidarity initiative, and 3 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 2: Massacard has been partnering with iHeart to produce these priceless 4 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 2: conversations with me and we're bringing together thought leaders, financial experts, 5 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 2: and business owners to sit down and kind of share 6 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 2: your expertise and share your stories. And so we're talking 7 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 2: today about the role that financial literacy plays in building 8 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:33,880 Speaker 2: and maintaining wealth and sustaining legacy in the black community. 9 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:37,840 Speaker 2: So today we have Nicole Turner, who is the Senior 10 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 2: vice president of Technology Hubs at MasterCard. 11 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:43,880 Speaker 3: Welcome, Thank you, so excited to be here. 12 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: I'm so happy to have you. And you know, just 13 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 1: full disclosure. 14 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 2: She's from Brooklyn, yes, and the house Tanya band Court, 15 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 2: the founder and CEO of Goal Setter. 16 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 4: Hey, thank you for having me, who. 17 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 2: Travel from Brooklyn today straight from best And then you 18 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 2: guys should all know Stacy Tisdale at this point. You 19 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 2: know she's my co She is my co host for 20 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 2: Wealth Wednesdays, but also the CEO of My Money Media. 21 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 2: She's a financial expert, author and broadcast journalist. Hello, Stacy, Angela, 22 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:18,559 Speaker 2: how's everybody feeling today because we always got to start 23 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 2: with that. 24 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:22,759 Speaker 3: I'm feeling excited, empowered, I'm ready to rock and roll. 25 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, the pre conversation was amazing, just talking 26 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 2: about different goals, finances, being patient. 27 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: But Nicole, let's start with you. As we're doing this conversation. 28 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 2: Financial inclusion is one of the key pillars of Mastercard's 29 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 2: social impact strategy and in solidarity efforts. Can you talk 30 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 2: more about Mastercard's commitment to financial inclusion and also we 31 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 2: always talk about the tangibles the programs that you have 32 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 2: that supported sure. 33 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 3: Of course, when I think about MasterCard and the commitment 34 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 3: that we have to try to close the racial equity gap, 35 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 3: tell me it's been something that's been important that we've 36 00:01:57,760 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 3: been doing for a long time. I love the fact 37 00:01:59,960 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 3: that not only do we talk it, but we walk it. 38 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 3: We understand that in order for us to be successful 39 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 3: in our business and what we do, closing that gap 40 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 3: is equally important, especially when it comes to financial inclusion 41 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 3: and financial literacy holistically. And so when we think about 42 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 3: the programs that we have and some of the partners, 43 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 3: and we'll talk later with my friend that's here from 44 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:23,399 Speaker 3: Goal Setter, we understand and by supporting and working with 45 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 3: these partners, not only do they help us continue and 46 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 3: improve the digital divide that we need to say how 47 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:32,920 Speaker 3: do we close it? But then also how do we 48 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 3: make inclusive products in order for us to do this 49 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 3: as well? 50 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 2: And you know, I just want to put this out 51 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 2: there first too, Nicole, just your background and how you 52 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 2: got to Masteracre, because I love for people to know 53 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 2: how everybody got to where they are today as well 54 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 2: in this space. 55 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 3: Yes, so before I join MasterCard, I used to open 56 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 3: up healthcare facilities and long term care facilities in underrepresented 57 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 3: communities in Bushwick, Brooklyn and in the Bronx. And it 58 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 3: was important that the agency that I work with at 59 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:03,239 Speaker 3: the time said, you know what, we're looking to put 60 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 3: three and four hundred jobs in the communities. We realize 61 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 3: that there's a change that's happening. But in order to 62 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:11,399 Speaker 3: do that, use your HR background to hire people from 63 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 3: the community and upskill them. In order when you upskill them, 64 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 3: not only do you help the economic community, but you 65 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 3: also help the real estate. And at that time, they 66 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 3: were doing a lot of programs from a low income 67 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 3: housing perspective. This company I was working with, so not 68 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 3: only were we bringing jobs, we also was giving them 69 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 3: mortgage grants as well. 70 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 2: I think it's important to know all of those things 71 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 2: because we do care about the people who are behind 72 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 2: these programs. And so when we're talking about MasterCard, just 73 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 2: to see how much you care about the community outside 74 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 2: of this and what got you here today. So thank 75 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 2: you for sharing that, Tanya. 76 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: Let's move on to you. Let's talk about goal Setter. 77 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 2: What goal Setter is the need that you saw specifically 78 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 2: in the black community, and how goal Setter is helping 79 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 2: to close the wealth gap as well. 80 00:03:56,840 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 4: Absolutely so. Goal Setter is a family find nan and 81 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 4: financial education platform. So for any of your listeners out 82 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 4: there who may have a kid's debit card for their kid, 83 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 4: goal Setter allows your kid to have a debit card, 84 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 4: but to have that debit card with financial education. And 85 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 4: I'll tell you why. My mother was an elementary school teacher. 86 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 4: I did everything in my house that had everything to 87 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 4: do with education, right. You know how it is when 88 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 4: you live in the house with the teacher, right, everything 89 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 4: you do is like accounted, like everything is. So because 90 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 4: of her, I ended up going to Stanford. I got 91 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 4: two degrees in engineering, so on a great track from 92 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:39,919 Speaker 4: an educational perspective. But I came out of Stanford and 93 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 4: there's one thing I didn't know about. I didn't know 94 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:44,679 Speaker 4: about money because my mama didn't teach me about money 95 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 4: because she didn't know about money. So I'm in my 96 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 4: late twenties. I have a job in Silicon Valley. At 97 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 4: that job, they give me a bunch of stock and 98 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 4: stock options, and I don't know about diversification or asset allocation, 99 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 4: so I just leave it there. I picked my head 100 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 4: up one day that stock is worth a million dollars. 101 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 4: That was at the beginning of the day. Because by 102 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 4: the end of the day, the big tech bubble had 103 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 4: burst and my million dollars went down to twenty thousand 104 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:07,039 Speaker 4: dollars in one day. 105 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 5: That's what I said to my million, to. 106 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 4: See, I. 107 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:15,119 Speaker 5: Understand stuff. 108 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 4: You don't understand options, you don't understand vesting, and that 109 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 4: you could sell them, and that you could diversify. So 110 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 4: in that moment, I thought, Okay, this was stupid, but 111 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 4: I can't turn back the hands of time. All I 112 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 4: can do is make sure this doesn't happen to my 113 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 4: own children. Fast forward, when I actually had my daughter, Gabrielle, 114 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:34,799 Speaker 4: I taught her everything I had since learned about personal 115 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 4: finance from the time she came out of my womb. 116 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 4: And when she was eight, about to turn nine, she said, Mommy, 117 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 4: for my ninth birthday, I really only want two things. 118 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 4: I said, what's that? She said, enough money to say 119 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 4: for an investment account? Wow, and a bike. Thought at 120 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 4: that age, if I could get every child, you say that, 121 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 4: I can change the world. And so that's what Goal 122 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 4: Setter is. We provide, not us a debit card for 123 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 4: your kids, because let's be honest, America teaches kids from 124 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 4: the time that they are born how to send and 125 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 4: spend money. We can go to kids now and say, 126 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 4: how many of you have cashp how many of you 127 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 4: have themo how many of you have sending and spending mechanisms? 128 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 4: And they do and they do. Excuse me, how many 129 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 4: of you know about investment accounts? How many of you 130 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 4: know what a bond is? How many of you know 131 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 4: what a stock is? And they don't. And so that's 132 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 4: what we do at Goal Setter. Our debit card actually 133 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 4: comes with a rule called learn before you burn, so 134 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 4: your kids debit card will automatically freeze on Sunday morning 135 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 4: if they haven't taken their financial literacy queens for the weekend. 136 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: Oh I like that for me. 137 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 2: And while you were talking about all of those things, 138 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 2: I was thinking about, like me not having financial literacy 139 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 2: when I was younger, and when I got my first 140 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 2: bank account. And before we get to you, Stacey, do 141 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 2: you guys all remember when you got your first ever 142 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 2: bank account? 143 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 4: Absolutely? 144 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 3: I do. I remember it was I was so proud 145 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 3: at the time. There was a program. I was going 146 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 3: to school in East New York, but my mother had 147 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 3: busted me to a school in Meal Base Shoes PS. 148 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 3: Two thirty six, and what they did was they had 149 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 3: given us they set up bank accounts for us. At 150 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 3: that time, I felt so proud just to have a 151 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 3: couple of five dollars or something that was in it. 152 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 3: It gave me a sense of pride to open up 153 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 3: my first bank account. I remember those days. 154 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 4: Absolutely, and I remember getting my first bank account because 155 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 4: then I was like, oh, now I can get a job, 156 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 4: so I can put some money in that bank account. 157 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 5: Right. 158 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 4: You associate a bank account with wealth and money, and 159 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 4: that gives you the motivation. But you know, a bank 160 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 4: account and investing are two different things, and that is 161 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 4: what our community is lacking right now understanding of how 162 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 4: to build wealth, not just how to make money exactly. 163 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: Well, now, Stacey, let's get to you. 164 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 2: And you remember your first time opening because that was 165 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 2: my first foray into anything financial, like having a bank account, 166 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 2: and it wasn't until I was in high school. And 167 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 2: so that's why I remember it so well. I think 168 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 2: I was like a junior in high school and I 169 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 2: didn't have much in there. But imagine not even having 170 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 2: that then, how was I going to be able to 171 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 2: invest anything or learn about it? And so that was 172 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 2: quite a journey for me. Yeah, and so Stacy, now 173 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 2: let's get. 174 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: Over here to you. 175 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 2: You know, this is my girl, Stacy, so I can't 176 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 2: assume that everybody knows everything about her. But in your 177 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 2: work you've talked about financial behaviors developing at an early age, 178 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 2: how messages from society impact our financial choices. Can you 179 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 2: share some more insight about this and also some of 180 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 2: the barriers that exist, particularly in the black community, and 181 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 2: also because we like to be you know, just always 182 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 2: think about solution tips on how to overcome them. 183 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 5: Absolutely, and I think all of the questions you just 184 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 5: answered are in my story. So I'll share my story 185 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:47,199 Speaker 5: just as you ladies have a big AHA moment for 186 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 5: me when it came to money was when I was 187 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 5: in college and a friend of mine's father worked for 188 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 5: a brokerage company called pain Weber. That will really date me, 189 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 5: and we walked into he was going to take us 190 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 5: out to lunch one day, and I'd never been around 191 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:04,199 Speaker 5: Wall Street or anything like that, and we walked into 192 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 5: his office and I saw my first trading floor and 193 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 5: I was like, I have never seen anything like this before, 194 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 5: and it was an incredible experience. I went back. I 195 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 5: changed my major to business right away intern there. Got 196 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 5: a job right out of college at a commodities firm, 197 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 5: and I was a cash manager and invested in the 198 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 5: treasury markets, so I really learned how the economy worked 199 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 5: and how the markets work within economy. Didn't want to 200 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 5: stay on Wall Street. Came out of the womb loving writing, 201 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 5: and I called the Wall Street Journal and I said, 202 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 5: I know finance, I love writing, and they actually bought 203 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:42,559 Speaker 5: that story and they hired me and I started at 204 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 5: their newswire service. Eventually moved to their television department and 205 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 5: I was there for seven years, and it was just 206 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 5: wonderful to see now I've seen the corporate side of money. 207 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 5: So CBS was starting a business news division called market Watch, 208 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 5: and I got hired to be their first on air reporter, 209 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 5: and that was a journalist's dream because I had to 210 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 5: do every single CBS show, from morning news to evening news, 211 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 5: everything in between radio and that really brought me to 212 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 5: Main Street. I was at CBS for many years, and 213 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 5: then I went to CNN Global and I was really 214 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 5: starting to have a lot of conflict about being a 215 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 5: financial journalist, about doing this the information we were putting out, 216 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 5: and from working on Wall Street, because I could see 217 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 5: that knowledge does not translate into behavior, and especially all 218 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 5: the big financial gurus at the time, I'm not going 219 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 5: to name any names, but really kind of making us 220 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 5: feel bad. You're supposed to put this amount into retirement, 221 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 5: You're supposed to do this, and I could see people 222 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 5: can't do that, they don't do that, So why aren't 223 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 5: we doing that? And I thought it was kind of 224 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 5: a failure by the financial services industry and the financial 225 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 5: media the way they were giving financial advice journalists, and 226 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 5: we had to know why why do we do what 227 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 5: we do when it comes with money? And I went 228 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 5: on what I had no idea was going to be 229 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 5: a six year research project into what drives financial behavior. 230 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 5: Because of my career, I had access to the greatest 231 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 5: minds in the world. Psychologists don't remember Clinton Gore's addiction specialists, 232 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 5: because that's financial behavior. Everything for my research problem became 233 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 5: very clear. When we have trouble with money, we go 234 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:29,439 Speaker 5: straight to the numbers. I got to earn more, save more, 235 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 5: invest more. The real causes of our financial behavior have 236 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 5: got absolutely nothing to do with numbers. We make our 237 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 5: choices based on our beliefs, and our beliefs are the 238 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 5: result of things that have nothing to do with money. 239 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 5: How we saw it handled growing up, social messages to 240 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 5: live a certain lifestyle, have certain things, or you're not whatever, gender, culture, race, 241 00:11:56,600 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 5: all of these former beliefs about ourselves, and that's drives 242 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 5: our financial choices. So the dance becomes teaching people how 243 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 5: to manage those choices, to become aware of what's really 244 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:12,319 Speaker 5: pushing their buttons, so that at that moment they can say, oh, 245 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:14,680 Speaker 5: I can make a different choice. So I wrote a 246 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 5: book about that, and it came out in two thousand 247 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 5: and eight, and I hate to say it was good timing. 248 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 5: But it was a huge recession and a very emotional recession. 249 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 5: And I started my book tour on the Today Show, 250 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 5: and really, I think it just really resonated for people 251 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 5: to hear about money spoken in that way. So that 252 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 5: appearance turned into a three year gig. A lot of 253 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 5: people watch that show. So the White House contacted me 254 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 5: and asked me to create a behavior based financial education 255 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 5: system based on this holistic approach to money. Did that 256 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 5: and then went on to create my own financial education program. 257 00:12:54,600 --> 00:13:02,719 Speaker 5: My journalism career continued PBS Black and Enterprise, and one 258 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 5: of my jobs right when I left Black Enterprises start 259 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 5: my own company, a show called The Breakfast Club asked 260 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 5: me to come on and talk about blacks and investing 261 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 5: and what I had seen. And I'll just never forget 262 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 5: this from the first time President Obama ran when it 263 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 5: became clear he was going to win. In the weeks 264 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 5: before his presidency, the number of Blacks going to sign 265 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 5: up for financial literacy courses, going to sign up for 266 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 5: entrepreneurship courses, going to sign up for advice ten thousand tupled. 267 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 5: So I love his saying the audacity of hope. So 268 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 5: the X factor was actually the hope and I remember 269 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:48,839 Speaker 5: my first segment I did with Angela, and I was 270 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 5: talking about the mentality and the Black community that you 271 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 5: need to be rich to invest. Totally understand where that 272 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 5: comes from, and totally understand why we don't trust the 273 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 5: financial markets. Though our story is told wrong and we 274 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 5: are an incredible story of resilience. But now technology fintech 275 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 5: is providing solutions that the government failed to and it 276 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 5: guess what, it takes out that discrimination piece and now 277 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 5: it's micro investing was created and now it's investing is 278 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 5: accessible to everyone. I mentioned one company's name in that interview, 279 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 5: and I'm not saying that company now, but while I 280 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 5: was in that interview, four million people signed up for 281 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 5: that company's app amazing, and then we saw our community 282 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 5: does have an appetite for this type of information and 283 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 5: they're hungry for it. And talk we're always told as 284 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 5: lax and at the bottom. Talk to us from our 285 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 5: position of power, help us make empowered financial decisions. And 286 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 5: that's that's where the work has to go. So a 287 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 5: holistic approach, you know people talk about behavioral finance or 288 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 5: holistic approach, is like there's something different. That's the only 289 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 5: way to learn about money you have to work on 290 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 5: mindset and help people remember how strong they really are. 291 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 2: And go to trusted companies for companies. Yeah, and also 292 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 2: because you know, it's there's so many people out there 293 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 2: that call themselves gurus and listen, That's why it's so 294 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 2: important to have these platforms here where Mastercard's been doing 295 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 2: this work. And so we're going to get to that 296 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 2: and thank you Stacy in a second. But Tanya, I 297 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 2: want you to talk about your partnership with MasterCard over 298 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 2: the years and more specifically the programming that you are 299 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 2: doing and activating with HBCU students. 300 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 4: Absolutely. 301 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 5: Well. 302 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 4: The thing I love about MasterCard is that MasterCard is 303 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 4: really focused on you know, through their Center for Inclusive Growth, 304 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 4: they are focused on inclusivity. How do you include more 305 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 4: people in the conversation and include more people in wealth 306 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 4: building in ways that meet them where they are. To 307 00:15:57,160 --> 00:16:00,080 Speaker 4: the point that Stacy just made right, I know that 308 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 4: that they're folks sitting in classrooms across America where some 309 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 4: banker comes across the street and is teaching them about 310 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 4: the stock market, but that banker is thirty years older 311 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 4: than them, doesn't speak their language, doesn't come from their community, 312 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 4: and all of those kids have their heads down on 313 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 4: their desk and are falling asleep. It's not because they 314 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 4: can't learn, it's because the teacher can't teach. 315 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: And so, you know what they can relate. 316 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 4: They can't relate absolutely, and sometimes they can't relate to 317 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 4: the stories. They can't relate to the you know, to 318 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 4: the examples of what investing means or what investing will 319 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 4: bring you and your family and your community. So all 320 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 4: of that relatability is really important. All of that is 321 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 4: to say, with MasterCard, we have just recently launched a 322 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 4: financial freedom project with the HBCUs in the Atlanta area 323 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 4: and so Morehouse Spelman Clark Atlanta. We have brought to 324 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 4: them this Financial Freedom boot Camp. So it's ten sessions 325 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 4: where we are for twenty to thirty minutes in every 326 00:16:56,360 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 4: single session talking about a different financial concept that is 327 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 4: the core of wealth building and that people need to 328 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 4: know in order to build wealth. 329 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: Right. 330 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 4: We just kicked off last week incredibly exciting, had all 331 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 4: these amazing AUC students in the room, and we start 332 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 4: with questions like who knows what the rule of seventy 333 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 4: two is? Nobody's raising their hand and that's okay because 334 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:19,120 Speaker 4: we're now about to share it with you. The rule 335 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 4: of seventy two teaches you how fast your money will 336 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 4: double based on where you invest it. And so now 337 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 4: after that twenty minute session, everyone says, wow, okay, So 338 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:30,399 Speaker 4: I just can't stick my money under a mattress or 339 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:32,360 Speaker 4: in a savings account that's going to yield me zero 340 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 4: point one percent interest. I need to do something better, 341 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:38,679 Speaker 4: So click, I got that right. Then in the second 342 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 4: session we talk about okay, great, now you know you 343 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:43,400 Speaker 4: need to do better. How do you do better? Where 344 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 4: can you put your money where your money will have 345 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 4: an opportunity to grow at seven percent per year for 346 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 4: the next thirty years. Oh well, that's something called the 347 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 4: stock market. But I don't have to be a stock picker. 348 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 4: I can learn about ETFs and mutual funds and index funds. 349 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 4: So then we introduce that language and we tell them 350 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 4: about that language. The reason all of this is so 351 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 4: important is because we all know if you don't know 352 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 4: the language of money, then anybody can sell you anything 353 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 4: because you feel ashamed about not understanding the concepts, and 354 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 4: you just sit there and do what we all do. Right, 355 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 4: You go into the mortgage loan place and you just nod. 356 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:19,879 Speaker 4: They may have a really bad interest rate on that 357 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 4: piece of paper, but you don't know what good is. 358 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:25,439 Speaker 4: And so we're teaching them the language of money, and 359 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 4: we're also giving them the goal setter app. MasterCard is 360 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 4: putting one hundred dollars onto these students' accounts so that 361 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 4: before they graduate they can be savers and investors. We 362 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 4: are turning the next generation of AUC students from senders 363 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 4: and spenders into savers and investors and giving them both 364 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 4: the tools so that they can start investing and the 365 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:46,439 Speaker 4: knowledge to do so. 366 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 5: Oh. 367 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 2: I love that the confidence that comes with being able 368 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 2: to know that you have that information too. I'm just 369 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 2: now flashing back to the first time I had to 370 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:58,439 Speaker 2: do a mortgage and what that process was like for me. Absolutely, 371 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 2: you're confident I did on but I did on my 372 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:02,120 Speaker 2: research ahead of time. 373 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 3: So it's interesting and I'm glad you said that you 374 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 3: did your research because I didn't. So when you said, 375 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 3: you know, it wasn't until you got older that you realized, Okay, 376 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:12,640 Speaker 3: how do I understand about numbers and financing? We were 377 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 3: talking before. I wish I had this goal than when 378 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:19,160 Speaker 3: I was younger, right, because growing up I wasn't taught that. 379 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 3: That wasn't the behavior in my family for us to 380 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 3: sit down at dinner to have those conversations and say, 381 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 3: let's talk about savings, let's talk about investing. 382 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 1: We didn't talk about money in my house, no, not 383 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: at all. 384 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 2: It was like, don't open those bills because we can't 385 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 2: do it. It was my mom my dad being like, 386 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 2: your mother spends all the money, and then my mom 387 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 2: hiding packages so that he wouldn't see her going shopping 388 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 2: and bringing them in the house. 389 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 5: It was all that and then those early impressions that's 390 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 5: I mean, that's what sets how you hand no money. 391 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 5: I remember my mother hiding stuff in the trunk, so 392 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 5: my father and so you. 393 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:52,159 Speaker 1: Grew up the house. 394 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:58,239 Speaker 5: And well was interesting for me. I grew up as 395 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 5: a figure skater, I lived away from my parents and 396 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 5: an athlete, and I always had that messaging you just 397 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 5: worry about what you're doing. We'll worry about the money. 398 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 5: You just worry about what you're doing. We'll worry about 399 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 5: the money. And as I got into my work and 400 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 5: I was like, oh, and I said, even in my 401 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:17,919 Speaker 5: adult behavior as far as worrying about the details and 402 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 5: getting into the nitty gritty. It's not natural to me, 403 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 5: but you have to know yourself well enough to know 404 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 5: your tendencies. And that's also a big part of the 405 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 5: about financial literacy, exactly what you're talking about. 406 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:30,199 Speaker 2: And you know, I'm so glad because we are going 407 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 2: to get into this program more. But even just to 408 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:36,679 Speaker 2: piggyback off of what you said about a mortgage, you know, 409 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 2: I actually got my real estate license, But part of 410 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 2: the reason I did that was because I had been 411 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 2: doing these deals for myself in real estate and I 412 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:46,680 Speaker 2: wanted to make sure I was as educated as possible 413 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 2: on everything on every aspect, so that when I was 414 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 2: going in and meeting with brokers and going to get 415 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 2: my mortgage and mortgage and doing all of that, I 416 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 2: understood it so well that nobody could really try to 417 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:00,880 Speaker 2: get over on me. And it's just so much better 418 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 2: when you can walk in there with the confidence of 419 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 2: knowing that you know, I educated myself. That's why I 420 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 2: love goal Setter and the fact that you're saying, Okay, 421 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 2: you want to access this, so you want to do 422 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 2: this well, first you have to make sure you take 423 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 2: this course and you know it's information I think that 424 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 2: kids will hold on to. 425 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 5: It's so cliche, but knowledge is power, and it really is. 426 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 4: I have to tell you this is so funny because 427 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 4: I have kids, right and I see the impact that 428 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 4: it has on them. And my kids are from eight 429 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:29,640 Speaker 4: all the way to nineteen. So my fourteen year old 430 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 4: I picked him up from basketball practice the other day 431 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 4: and his friend got in the back seat with him 432 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 4: and he said, Miss Tanya, did Hendrix tell you that 433 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:39,159 Speaker 4: when we are in the line at Chick fil A, 434 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 4: he's always trying to hurry up and finish his quiz so. 435 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 2: That I can access so levcard can get a lot 436 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:46,959 Speaker 2: of money. 437 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 1: He gets to the front of the line. 438 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 4: So that's on one side, and then on the other side. 439 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 4: I have my nineteen year old daughter. When she turned eighteen, 440 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,880 Speaker 4: because she had been taking these quizzes for many years, 441 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 4: she called me up and she said, Mommy, I'm eighteen. 442 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 4: Now I think I need to pull my credit score. 443 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 4: But I probably don't have a credit score yet because 444 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 4: I don't have a credit card. So I'm gonna go 445 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 4: get a credit card so I can build my credit. 446 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 4: I need to go get a roth Ira, and I 447 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 4: need to open up a high Field savings account. Anything 448 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 4: else mommy, and it was because she'd been taking these 449 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 4: weekly financial Yes, but that is the difference. And as 450 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 4: we talk about creating products for our community, right, I'm 451 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,400 Speaker 4: one of the very few black women in America who 452 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 4: owns a fintech company and an aed tech company, And 453 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 4: so our company looks very different and acts very different 454 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 4: than a standard debit card that you stick into kid's hands, 455 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 4: because I know I'm not going to do that disservice 456 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 4: to my children, nor to any of the other children 457 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 4: in our community, of just teaching them how to spend 458 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 4: money without the other side, which is learning about building 459 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 4: your credit, learning about investing, learning about saving. So it's 460 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 4: great that they learn how to be responsible spenders, but 461 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,160 Speaker 4: we all know that being a responsible. 462 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 5: Spend is not that is definitely not. 463 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 4: Check to checheck, right, you cannot do that. And so 464 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 4: you know that having black people and black women who 465 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 4: are bringing a different lens to how we create products 466 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 4: for our community is essential. And that's the other thing 467 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 4: that quite frankly, MasterCard has done by being an investor 468 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 4: and goal setter, right, MasterCard has powered us to do 469 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,439 Speaker 4: this work in a way that other people, quite frankly 470 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,400 Speaker 4: can't do it because they come with a very different lens. 471 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 2: Well, Nicle, have a question for you now, all right, 472 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 2: we've talked about the MasterCard Start Path program and how 473 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 2: it helps early stage underrepresented founders a bit on previous episodes. 474 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 2: Why is it important to invest in underrepresented startups and 475 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 2: how is this beneficial to Mastercard's overarching financial inclusion strategy. 476 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 3: Of course, love that question, Angela, And first you so 477 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 3: eloquently talked about the work that we do holistically as 478 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 3: one of our start Path Right partners. When we think 479 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,719 Speaker 3: about start Path, when we think about connecting with some 480 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 3: of those fintech startups, those education startups, it's helping us 481 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 3: connect with the community and power with the community on 482 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 3: a broader scale. And some of those digital products, although 483 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 3: I call it inclusive products that we have, it's helping 484 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 3: us say how do we touch everyone and have equal 485 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:17,919 Speaker 3: access to everyone? And so I just want to take 486 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,640 Speaker 3: us back for a little bit. In two thousand and six, 487 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:24,360 Speaker 3: Right MasterCard Foundation was founded. In twenty fifteen, we made 488 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 3: a commitment to connect five hundred million people to the 489 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 3: digital economy. Since then, we've exceeded that goal. And what 490 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:31,920 Speaker 3: we wanted to do is say, how do we have 491 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 3: one billion people by twenty twenty five. How do we 492 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 3: connect Well, we also said, let's push our goals a 493 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 3: little bit further. We want to connect with fifty million 494 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 3: small business owners, one billion underserved individuals, but also twenty 495 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 3: five million women entrepreneurs. Now, think about this start Path 496 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 3: program and what it can do when you connect these 497 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:54,160 Speaker 3: entrepreneurs and these FinTechs together to create these digital products 498 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,639 Speaker 3: that can help our communities. More broadly, we're in the 499 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 3: digital age right now. So I mentioned earlier, how do 500 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 3: we close that gap? And so some of the partners 501 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 3: and the products that we have, we have goals. That is, 502 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:07,920 Speaker 3: we have Wealthy, we have SUMA. Right, there's different fintech 503 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 3: organizations and products that we have that's out there that 504 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 3: not only if you think about can I access it, 505 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,399 Speaker 3: but also can I see individuals who look like me 506 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 3: who are teaching me and educating me on these products? 507 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 5: Holistically, fintech is really the game changer. Yeah, yes, really, 508 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 5: we've been we've been talking about been talking about fintech 509 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 5: for a long time. And it was really wonderful to 510 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 5: see post twenty twenty the black community when everybody was 511 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 5: locked down and we saw how bad things really were 512 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 5: really it was like there was a collective decision. The 513 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 5: traditional economy was not made for us. It does not 514 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:45,440 Speaker 5: work for us, and we migrated to the digital economy 515 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 5: and it was explosive. And then you saw for the 516 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 5: last I think three years in a row, the first 517 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 5: largest number of first time investors to the stock market 518 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 5: are black. It's because of fintech. Yes, and we've been 519 00:25:56,280 --> 00:26:01,719 Speaker 5: on Wealth Wednesdays. We've been just raising that tech, bringing 520 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 5: that fintech bell for a year so that this MasterCard 521 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 5: that really applaud you on what you've really been a 522 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:08,879 Speaker 5: pioneer and a leader in this. 523 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, we have to walk the talk, right, we can't, 524 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 3: you know, in order for us to be effective in 525 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 3: our business, it's the authenticity around it. But it's the 526 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,360 Speaker 3: commitment as well, and it's not for the short term. 527 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 3: It's for the long term gain for us, for our communities. 528 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 3: We were at as an organization where we put our 529 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 3: money at our businesses or our locations, but it's also 530 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 3: important to affect the communities is at large. 531 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about some of those locations. Let's talk 532 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:35,399 Speaker 2: about MasterCards, tech hubs and all of those things. My 533 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 2: main thing when we started these conversations was for people 534 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:41,479 Speaker 2: to have real tangibles and to see how can I 535 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 2: access this for what I do and where do I 536 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 2: need to be and how can this benefit me? What 537 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 2: are the different programs based on where I'm at in 538 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 2: my business? So can you just give us some insights 539 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:52,360 Speaker 2: into that. 540 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 3: So when we think about mascoret global Technology hubs, so 541 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 3: there represent almost forty percent of MasterCards employees in these 542 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 3: locations around them. We believe in the locations where we're at. 543 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 3: So we're in New York City Saint Louis and I'll 544 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 3: just talk about those two locations for starters. And also 545 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 3: we have work that we do in Atlanta as well. 546 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 3: When we think about the locations of where our physical 547 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 3: presence is, we also understand the commitment in partnering with 548 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 3: not for profits government agencies on a community basis as well. 549 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 3: So our tech cubs unite diverse talent from software engineers, FinTechs, 550 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 3: you name it. In those tech cubs. All those creative 551 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,160 Speaker 3: and innovative products that we're creating or producing and developing, 552 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 3: those inclusive products, they happen and they're develop at the 553 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 3: tech cubs that I manage. And so looking at the 554 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 3: people that we bring on board, but then also what 555 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,160 Speaker 3: are some of the programs that run out of these 556 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 3: tech cubs. So we have master your Cards not only 557 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 3: are to run at the tech cups, but they also 558 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 3: in the community because we want to meet people where 559 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 3: they're at. They could be online, they could be virtual. 560 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,399 Speaker 3: And we had an activation at clock Atlanta University and 561 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 3: ensuring that how do we reach out only students as well, 562 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 3: but how do we reach adults for them to understand 563 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 3: the inclusivity around financial education and financial literacy and so 564 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,679 Speaker 3: the broadened aspect of where we're at and the continuation 565 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 3: isn't yes, it's us. We're also global in nature. 566 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 1: Man. 567 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 2: I love that because I feel like nowadays kids are 568 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 2: also teaching their parents. 569 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 3: Yes, oh for sure, the big time. 570 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 4: Okay, I just have to jump in and say to 571 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:29,640 Speaker 4: that point. MasterCard just recently did a research study about 572 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 4: goal Setter users. Let me tell you what they found. 573 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 4: Eighty five percent of parents said their kids are better 574 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:38,479 Speaker 4: savers because they use goal Setter. One out of two 575 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 4: parents said their kids are better investors because they use 576 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 4: goal Setter, but seventy five percent of parents said they 577 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 4: are more financially healthy themselves because their kids use their 578 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 4: goal setter, And thirty percent of parents said they are 579 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 4: using a different financial instrument or investment vehicle that they 580 00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 4: learned about on goal Setter. 581 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,959 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, see this is a generational like it. 582 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 4: So when you said the kids are teaching the parents, 583 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 4: we never got how many of you all got financial education? 584 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 2: And in college all I did was sign up for 585 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 2: things I shouldn't have. 586 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 3: I want to say, is we're also doing something like 587 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 3: for the stem right for girls for tech black girls 588 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 3: who code, because again, how do you touch that demographic 589 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 3: those students in that age, and it is diververse mentoring 590 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 3: and educating, cating their parents. That's something that was never 591 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 3: the case for us. Think about the impact that we're 592 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 3: doing right now. So sometimes we say were worried about 593 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 3: the future. I'm not. 594 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 1: I was when I. 595 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 5: Told you when I came on the show the first 596 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 5: time and I mentioned that technology company for micro investing. 597 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 5: Who told me about that company? 598 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 1: He told me what I'm using. 599 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 2: I want to ask you guys a something because the 600 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 2: other day, my friend's son, he's fourteen years old, and 601 00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 2: you know, he wasn't there, and I was with his 602 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 2: son and we were just having a conversation because he 603 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 2: said he's interested in real estate. 604 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 1: You know, he's in high school. 605 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 2: And he says to me, my biggest fear is that 606 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 2: one day I could be homeless. And I don't know 607 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 2: why he said that because his family, you know, they're good. 608 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 2: He lives in a house. It's not like there's ever 609 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 2: been that. But I do feel like a lot of 610 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 2: times people have this fear. I know I used to 611 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 2: always have this fear, like what if something happens, What 612 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 2: if I don't have a place to live, what if 613 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 2: I'm not set up properly? And I really did used 614 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 2: to think that when I was living check to check 615 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 2: and not even check to check, you. 616 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 1: Know, until I got myself in a better position. 617 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 2: But let's say a fourteen year old came to you 618 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 2: today and was like, look, this is my biggest fear 619 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 2: that one day I'll be homeless. 620 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 1: What would your answer be to that child. 621 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 4: My answer to that child would be, you can eliminate 622 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 4: that fear by managing your finances appropriately. And we're going 623 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 4: to teach you how to Most of us, because we 624 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 4: don't talk about money in our families. As we all 625 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 4: just talked about, it's scary, and of course that could 626 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 4: be your biggest fear because it's that money is a 627 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 4: black box and it's an unknown. But if somebody sitys 628 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 4: down with you and says, okay, the day you get 629 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 4: your first paycheck, let me tell you what we're gonna do. 630 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 4: We're gonna start putting away at least twenty percent out 631 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 4: of every paycheck until you have an emergency fund. That 632 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 4: emergency fund will be three to six months of your expenses. 633 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 4: So if you get fired from your job, don't worry 634 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 4: about it. You got three to six months that you 635 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 4: can live on right there. And then after you're done 636 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 4: with the emergency fund, the next dollar, we're going to 637 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 4: start investing that. You aren't a stock picker. You don't 638 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 4: need to be a stockpicker like Stacy over here, right. 639 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 4: You want to be a stock for a black station. 640 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 4: You can invest your money in a mutual fund or 641 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 4: an ETF. And here's how you do it, and this 642 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 4: is what it's done for the last thirty years. If 643 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 4: you invest one hundred thousand dollars in thirty years, it'll 644 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 4: be seven hundred and sixty one thousand dollars if you 645 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 4: put it into the stock market. And the stock market 646 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 4: returns what it always has. When they see a path, 647 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 4: then it's like, you know, after I was pregnant, when 648 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 4: my second child, and I was like, oh my goodness, 649 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 4: I got on his weight on me that I need 650 00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 4: to get off. All I needed to do was go 651 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 4: to a boot camp and somebody need to show me. Okay, 652 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 4: you jump that rope one hundred times and then you 653 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 4: run around. We have to give them a path so 654 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 4: to get them away from that fear. And if we 655 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 4: give them a path, then they can see what their 656 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 4: lives can look and what's the. 657 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 5: Gold gold, gold, and what you just said. Your relationship 658 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 5: with money can teach you how to manage fear. Yes, 659 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 5: and it's managed fear. It's not real, that's right. And 660 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 5: we can show you how those fears aren't going to 661 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 5: come true. And that's what's so powerful about all of 662 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 5: it is really unpacking. Your relationship with money can teach 663 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 5: you how to manage fear and how to not let 664 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 5: it run the show. 665 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 4: Absolutely, absolutely, I agree. 666 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 3: And it goes back to what you were saying is 667 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 3: you have to show them because sometimes we can have 668 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 3: conversations with those fourteen year olds and if we're talking 669 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 3: at them without having conversations with them to bring them 670 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 3: in and give them relevant examples. You can't see it, 671 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 3: you can't be it right. 672 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 5: That's right, blinding, Yeah, it's blinding, right. 673 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 3: And so we goes back to fundamental each one teach one. 674 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 3: If each one is going to teach one, let's make 675 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 3: sure we have that step by step process. And I'm 676 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 3: bringing you along the journey. I'm not trying to kick 677 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 3: you to the side at all. 678 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 5: And don't you love when they see And that's what 679 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 5: was so eye opening on Wall Street because it was 680 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 5: like Wall Street that I didn't meet a single rocket 681 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 5: scientist on Wall Street. Nor is money rocket science. This 682 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 5: is it's not hard. It's fears. Great about goal setter, 683 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,480 Speaker 5: what Mastercard's doing. When they stuck, they're like, oh that's easy, 684 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 5: seventy two, all that stuff's easy. 685 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 4: Exactly, that's right. And then we need to show them 686 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 4: Angela Yee and her many businesses. So we're going to 687 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 4: reframe his fear. His fear is going to be like, 688 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 4: oh no, I might only have two houses as opposed 689 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 4: to three, and he can see what's start to set 690 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 4: up his goals, and he reframes what his goals are. 691 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 4: My goal is not to not be homeless. My goal 692 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 4: is to have three houses and two businesses and this 693 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 4: and that. 694 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 5: Right, how are you careful with the e effect? My 695 00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:00,080 Speaker 5: son has grown up around her and she's created a 696 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 5: financial nightmare. Why don't we have ten houses? 697 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 2: No. 698 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 1: One thing I did. 699 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 2: Show him, though, was I showed him like the first 700 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 2: brownstone that I ever bought, and I showed him what 701 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,799 Speaker 2: I paid for it and what it's worth now, and 702 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:13,840 Speaker 2: also that it was a two family so I was like, 703 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 2: this is what my mortgage was. And then I had 704 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,880 Speaker 2: a tenant downstairs that was paying this much money, so really, 705 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 2: this is what I was paying every month, And so 706 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 2: I was showing I actually showed him that so he 707 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:25,920 Speaker 2: could see what it is, and the brownstone that I 708 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 2: purchased recently. I was showing him, you know, all of that. 709 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:33,319 Speaker 2: So he's like, now he wants to be an architect. 710 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 4: He probably wants to be your architect. 711 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,840 Speaker 2: And listen, one of the things that people ask me 712 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:46,360 Speaker 2: all the time, if I could go back to my 713 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 2: younger self and do things differently, what would it be? 714 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 1: And I always say, I wish. 715 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,799 Speaker 2: I would have started investing earlier, you know, because I 716 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,479 Speaker 2: think that when I first was, like I said, living 717 00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 2: tech to Chech, I wasn't investing. 718 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 1: And it wasn't until I was like twenty nine years old. 719 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,839 Speaker 2: That I started a roth Ira and I got a 720 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 2: lot more confident and it didn't have to be a 721 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 2: lot of money that I was putting in it every month, 722 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,279 Speaker 2: you know. So that was just something that if I 723 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,960 Speaker 2: could have seen exponentially how that could have grown, and 724 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 2: if I would have started at a way younger age 725 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,239 Speaker 2: where I would be now, if I could go back 726 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 2: in time and do things differently, I would have. 727 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 5: I agreed you a good point you made. So many 728 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 5: people think, well, I don't have the money to start one. 729 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 2: You don't need that much, little fife. 730 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 5: I want something that we're talking about a lot lately, 731 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:35,839 Speaker 5: is a lot of this is systemic. Like what we 732 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 5: were talking about, people not understanding like their work benefits 733 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:44,239 Speaker 5: and things like that. Companies aren't educating people. Companies have 734 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 5: the power to offer all sorts of benefits. I'm so 735 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:50,920 Speaker 5: glad so many are now focused on financial wellness. Systemic 736 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:55,560 Speaker 5: discrimination put us in this place. It's going to take 737 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 5: systemic solutions to pull us out of this. You know, 738 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 5: really help from company, so. 739 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 3: Walking Wave and that's what I love about the work 740 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:09,360 Speaker 3: that we do holistically to enhance, rite and educate the 741 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:13,359 Speaker 3: communities across the board, to give access to everyone. There's nothing. 742 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, and some of that is on us too, write 743 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,880 Speaker 2: to go out and seek this information and this knowledge 744 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 2: because you know there are that like you said, massacred, 745 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,360 Speaker 2: you have these programs that are available. And I do 746 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 2: want to ask you, Tanya, how did you end up 747 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 2: even approaching or did they approach you? 748 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, so I applied to the start Path program. 749 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 1: And I want to hear this. I want people to 750 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,239 Speaker 1: see how it can happen. It was like you had 751 00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,400 Speaker 1: it in. I knew this person. It was a hookup. 752 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:47,960 Speaker 3: We were at a conference one time and I remember 753 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:50,920 Speaker 3: her walking up to me was like, oh you work 754 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,440 Speaker 3: in MasterCard. Well, this is my business and this is 755 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,680 Speaker 3: what it is that I do. I'm going to partner 756 00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,239 Speaker 3: and work with you. I want to have give me 757 00:36:58,280 --> 00:36:58,760 Speaker 3: some names. 758 00:36:58,840 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 4: Right. 759 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,440 Speaker 3: So, the way that she is now, this is a 760 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,319 Speaker 3: long time ago. The way that she is now, she's 761 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,279 Speaker 3: the same. Meaning I'm driven, I'm focused, I believe in 762 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 3: myself right right, yes, And I believe in my product yes, 763 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,440 Speaker 3: and guess what happened and now we're partner. 764 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:21,759 Speaker 2: Look at that, Wow, and that the same story. 765 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 4: And it is true. I mean, but what I have 766 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:25,359 Speaker 4: found is God doesn't put you in any place where 767 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 4: you're not supposed to be, But it is up to 768 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,440 Speaker 4: us to take advantage of every one of those offices. 769 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:32,280 Speaker 1: You will that networking. 770 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,960 Speaker 4: Networking is so important, and there are times, you know, 771 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,840 Speaker 4: I actually nobody will believe this. I sit on the 772 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,400 Speaker 4: line between being an introvert and an extrovert. So there 773 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 4: are some days where I walk into a room of 774 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:46,400 Speaker 4: a thousand people and my introvert side is screaming out like, 775 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 4: oh Lord. 776 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,120 Speaker 5: I just want to be at home. I just want 777 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:49,319 Speaker 5: to go. 778 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:49,960 Speaker 1: Home, right. 779 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,799 Speaker 4: But in those moments, I say to myself, I am 780 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:54,920 Speaker 4: not leaving here until I have talked to five people 781 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,440 Speaker 4: who can move this business forward. And the reason is 782 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,840 Speaker 4: because I am so committed to transforming our community. And 783 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,399 Speaker 4: I know, you know, we've raised thirty million dollars. We've 784 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 4: raised money from MasterCard, but also from Robert F. Smith, 785 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:11,719 Speaker 4: the chairman and philanthropists of Vista Equity, from Kevin Durant, 786 00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:15,759 Speaker 4: from Chris Paul, from Carmelo Anthony. We have extraordinary investors 787 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,479 Speaker 4: who believe in goal Setter, but they believe in goal 788 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:22,719 Speaker 4: Setter's power to transform the next generation of kids in 789 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:26,640 Speaker 4: our community. And so it is my responsibility every day 790 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,160 Speaker 4: when I took one of those investment dollars, it's my 791 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,839 Speaker 4: responsibility to go up to folks like Nicole and make 792 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:35,839 Speaker 4: sure that I am getting the kinds of partnerships that 793 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:37,799 Speaker 4: can help goal Setter to get in the hands of 794 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,920 Speaker 4: more kids across America. So, yes, I may have been 795 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:42,279 Speaker 4: a little aggressive. 796 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,239 Speaker 1: Because that excitement can translate. 797 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,239 Speaker 2: And let me ask you this, the goal Setter start 798 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:52,400 Speaker 2: off when you first launched it, right, I want to 799 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:55,440 Speaker 2: know also about how it morphed because a lot of 800 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 2: times you have an idea, you start something, but then 801 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,480 Speaker 2: you end up kind of having to adapt to what 802 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,959 Speaker 2: you see is necessary, is needed absolutely. 803 00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,560 Speaker 4: So one of the things that we realized is that 804 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:11,319 Speaker 4: not only did families and kids need our product, but 805 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:15,120 Speaker 4: banks and financial institutions need our product. And so goal 806 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 4: Setter is now white labeling our platform for banks and 807 00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,960 Speaker 4: credit unions across the country so that they can give 808 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,600 Speaker 4: our platform to all of the families that they serve. 809 00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,000 Speaker 4: So that's been a huge part of our pivot. The 810 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:30,359 Speaker 4: second thing has been that we're actually serving school systems now. 811 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,720 Speaker 4: So we have goal se Goal Setter both the APP 812 00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:39,280 Speaker 4: and financial education curriculum in ten states across the country 813 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,520 Speaker 4: in twenty five school systems throughout the country. We partnered 814 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:47,520 Speaker 4: with Nike and UBS and other financial institutions to help 815 00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,719 Speaker 4: bring this content in this curriculum into school systems that 816 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:52,440 Speaker 4: need it most. So those are the two of the 817 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,600 Speaker 4: things that we have done to make sure that we 818 00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 4: are getting out there and really meeting the need. 819 00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:00,359 Speaker 2: And Nicole has to feel great for you to be 820 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:05,319 Speaker 2: doing this work that obviously it's right, Yeah, top talk, 821 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,200 Speaker 2: that's it is. 822 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,200 Speaker 3: I mean, when you realize that you work for a 823 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,799 Speaker 3: work at MasterCard, I understand that the work that we 824 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,200 Speaker 3: do and I'm touching the communities and I can see 825 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:20,880 Speaker 3: that tri factor of education, financial literacy, the community involvement, 826 00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:24,120 Speaker 3: community development. When you witness that, and then you also 827 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:25,880 Speaker 3: turn it into what are some of the products that 828 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:29,960 Speaker 3: we're doing and we're touching generations, we're touching communities. For me, 829 00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:33,240 Speaker 3: it's something that I will continue to being with pride 830 00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,560 Speaker 3: and what it is that we what we do in 831 00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,640 Speaker 3: working with our community partners with our FinTechs with our 832 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:41,359 Speaker 3: startups is key. 833 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, well Stacy, you know, Stacy's with me 834 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,480 Speaker 2: every single week on Wealth Wednesdays. But honestly, when I 835 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,879 Speaker 2: go out and about, people always approach me and talk 836 00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 2: about how helpful our platform has been with Wealth Wednesdays. 837 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:55,400 Speaker 2: And then now they're coming up to me and talking 838 00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:59,640 Speaker 2: about these priceless conversations with MasterCard also, and so that 839 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:01,319 Speaker 2: means a lot to me just for me to have 840 00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,280 Speaker 2: this platform, to be able to give people this valuable information, 841 00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,000 Speaker 2: give people a place that they can go to get 842 00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,160 Speaker 2: the assistance that they need when they're at that point 843 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,200 Speaker 2: that they're like, Okay, I'm ready to bring my business 844 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:14,520 Speaker 2: to the next level. Or I can speak confidently on 845 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:16,279 Speaker 2: what it is that I have going on, or maybe 846 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:19,160 Speaker 2: I need to learn how to speak confidently, because that's 847 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:22,440 Speaker 2: not always something that's a given, either being able to pitch, 848 00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:23,680 Speaker 2: being able to. 849 00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:28,960 Speaker 5: To hear you talk about that was a little entrepreneurship 850 00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:30,560 Speaker 5: one on one and I hear the you know, the 851 00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,600 Speaker 5: partnerships and the investors and things that you made. How 852 00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:38,360 Speaker 5: did you do that? Wow? 853 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,040 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, it. 854 00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:45,760 Speaker 4: Was a long journey and truly, how I did It 855 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:50,839 Speaker 4: is meeting good people, telling them what we're doing and 856 00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,720 Speaker 4: why we're doing it. Right, It is often the why 857 00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:58,280 Speaker 4: behind your product, not just the product that you're offering, 858 00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:01,920 Speaker 4: that gets people engaged and wants them and makes them 859 00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:05,520 Speaker 4: want to help you. So getting good people into our ecosystem, 860 00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,400 Speaker 4: and truly, I'm not even kidding you asking each person, 861 00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,399 Speaker 4: can you just introduce me to one person? And then 862 00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:14,760 Speaker 4: that next person, can you just introduce me to one person? 863 00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:17,799 Speaker 4: I mean, that is what networking is. You don't go 864 00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,680 Speaker 4: to someone and say, Angela, can you introduce me to 865 00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:22,759 Speaker 4: all five of the people who were on your show 866 00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:23,359 Speaker 4: last week? 867 00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:25,520 Speaker 5: Right, be like, no, I. 868 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:26,200 Speaker 1: Have other things. 869 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:32,200 Speaker 5: Take exactly literally. 870 00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:38,840 Speaker 4: But you know, when you are doing the work, and 871 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:40,799 Speaker 4: you're doing the work for the right reasons, and then 872 00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,600 Speaker 4: you get people engaged in that work, they do want 873 00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:45,239 Speaker 4: to help you and they are willing to help you. 874 00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,440 Speaker 4: And so that's how we were able to get it done, 875 00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:50,239 Speaker 4: just one by one by one. But that's why it's 876 00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,480 Speaker 4: been You know this, this work is not for the 877 00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,799 Speaker 4: faint of heart being an entrepreneur. It is not for. 878 00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,520 Speaker 1: The before you get to yes. 879 00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:59,879 Speaker 4: A whole lot of nose, before you get to a yes. 880 00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:01,560 Speaker 4: And the funny thing about me is I didn't come 881 00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,280 Speaker 4: from the fintech space. I didn't come from the finance space. 882 00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,279 Speaker 4: I actually was a Nickelodeon. I ran nick Junior dot 883 00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:10,400 Speaker 4: com and nogging dot com before I came over into 884 00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,080 Speaker 4: this space. But I knew that if I could bring 885 00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:17,839 Speaker 4: all my skills of making content and making fintech products 886 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:21,080 Speaker 4: fun and engaging, then I could bring that into the 887 00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,719 Speaker 4: financial services space and transform the space in a way 888 00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:25,880 Speaker 4: that no one else had done. And when Angela was 889 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,400 Speaker 4: talking about, you know she had a two family brownstone, 890 00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,000 Speaker 4: I thought about one of our videos. It's called get 891 00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:36,000 Speaker 4: a Renter to pay your Mortgage. So those kinds of videos, 892 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,880 Speaker 4: they're fun, they're engaging. We have one that's called life Insurance. 893 00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:40,240 Speaker 4: Isn't just for dead people? 894 00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:43,479 Speaker 1: Right to the point true. 895 00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:48,360 Speaker 4: So we have all these this great content because I 896 00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,439 Speaker 4: came from the content space absolutely and brought that over 897 00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:53,960 Speaker 4: into the financial services space. Which is why goal Setter 898 00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,840 Speaker 4: can bring this content to people in a way that 899 00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:58,839 Speaker 4: makes y'all have and it's fun and engaging, but it's 900 00:43:58,840 --> 00:43:59,600 Speaker 4: still informative. 901 00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:01,160 Speaker 1: About creating a trust. 902 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:06,719 Speaker 3: Yes, we do have one trust will trust that you 903 00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:08,640 Speaker 3: need trust in case you have kids that you need, 904 00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:12,080 Speaker 3: that's important as well. First, I want to say just 905 00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,759 Speaker 3: thank you for the opportunity for MasterCard, for even having 906 00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,200 Speaker 3: us to have the opportunity to amplify our message and 907 00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:20,640 Speaker 3: the work that we do in this space. I think 908 00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,800 Speaker 3: you heard from some of our partners that join you previously, 909 00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:25,640 Speaker 3: you had Troy Dennis, you has a lot of guss 910 00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:28,880 Speaker 3: and and definitely for the work that they do holistically, 911 00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:30,399 Speaker 3: So I just want to give them a shout out. 912 00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,319 Speaker 3: But thank you. I think that when you have the 913 00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,719 Speaker 3: masses that can hear the wealth content what it is 914 00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:38,880 Speaker 3: that we can do holistically and with some of the 915 00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:42,880 Speaker 3: tools and resources that you can educate right and learn from, 916 00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:45,560 Speaker 3: I just think that this is a fantastic platform for 917 00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:47,440 Speaker 3: us just to share and amplify a message. 918 00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:48,600 Speaker 1: So thank you, well, thank you. 919 00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:50,880 Speaker 2: This means a lot to me. So I appreciate you 920 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,560 Speaker 2: all for being here with us today. I know our 921 00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:56,520 Speaker 2: audience on way up appreciates this too. We're gonna get 922 00:44:56,520 --> 00:45:02,280 Speaker 2: our investments way up. Yes, yes, and again this is priceless, 923 00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,600 Speaker 2: this information. So now what are you going to do? 924 00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:07,520 Speaker 2: That's the question, you know for everybody listening, what are 925 00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,240 Speaker 2: you going to do. It's time to take some action. 926 00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:11,600 Speaker 2: But thank you so much for joining us. And I 927 00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:13,840 Speaker 2: know this is going to be amazing and I cannot 928 00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,040 Speaker 2: wait to hear some of the success stories and people 929 00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:18,719 Speaker 2: who are just listening and are inspired. So thank you 930 00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:19,160 Speaker 2: so much. 931 00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:19,640 Speaker 1: Thank you. 932 00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:22,680 Speaker 2: I'm inspired because you know, I'm already like, okay, in solidarity. 933 00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:23,319 Speaker 1: What am I doing? 934 00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:25,399 Speaker 3: Stop path? 935 00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:34,000 Speaker 5: That's right, you car This building did great. 936 00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:37,839 Speaker 4: Thank you.