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Speaker 1: Hi, get everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading

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Speaker 1: the Bengals Boots podcast. The This is gonna be the

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Speaker 1: best day of my luh addition, as Joe Mixon has

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Speaker 1: one of the best games in franchise history as the

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Speaker 1: Bengals crushed the Carolina Panthers forty two to twenty one.

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Speaker 1: Coming up, you'll hear radio replays, one on one, locker

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Speaker 1: room interviews at analysis from a broadcast partner, Dave Lapham. Then,

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Speaker 1: in this week's fun fact segment, you'll get to know

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Speaker 1: NFL Man of the Year Award in the past. If

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Speaker 1: Westchester Township from seven to ten, and I imagine some

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Speaker 1: of his teammates will be there too. Now, let's get

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Speaker 1: to Sunday's game. Going in, Joe Mixon was averaging three

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Speaker 1: sixty times, Mixon ranked next to last in yards per attempt.

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Speaker 1: It's been hard to figure out. It's not like Joe

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Speaker 1: Mixon is over the hill. He's only four and a

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Speaker 1: half months older than Joe Burrow. And on Sunday against Carolina,

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Speaker 1: five yards to Joe Mixon. Now was a screen pass

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Speaker 1: executed perfectly. First in goal from the two. Stanley Morgan

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Speaker 1: Burrow waits for the shotgun snap. Joe catches hands it

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Speaker 1: Stanley Morgan in the Bengals get lined up quickly. Play

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Speaker 1: Shotgun snap back to Joe from the pocket. Scrambling to

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Speaker 1: excited for this team. There was balanced Joe, I mean

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Speaker 1: was balanced in play selection, balance in execution. That's what

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Speaker 1: this offense can do, right, Yeah, most definitely. I mean

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Speaker 1: you know Zach, you know, he died us some good

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Speaker 1: And we just got to keep on building from that.

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Speaker 1: a fact that as long as you know we stayed shoot,

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Speaker 1: was effusive in his praise of the offensive line, and

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Speaker 1: rightfully so. The Bengals finished with two hundred forty one

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Speaker 1: we're starting to put it all together. Joe Mixon scored

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Speaker 1: five touchdowns, four rushing, one receiving. That's a Bengals record.

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Speaker 1: But did you feel it was important to show that

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Speaker 1: first down, eleven run plays, eleven pass plays can't be

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Speaker 1: any more balanced than that, And I think that, and

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Speaker 1: talking to Joe Burrow after the game, he said, when

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Speaker 1: we run the ball like that, we're gonna be unbeatable.

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Speaker 1: Over turningy yards, rushing over turny yards passing, he doesn't.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he really wants to throw for over

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Speaker 1: fourty yards and lose a game. That's not Joe Burrow,

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Speaker 1: that's not his deal, you know. I think I think

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Speaker 1: being number one in the NFL and passing yards is

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Speaker 1: a little hollow when you're four and four, you know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he'd rather be where he's going to be

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Speaker 1: after this, probably fall down into the top two or

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Speaker 1: three after you know, a couple one hundred yard passing day.

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Speaker 1: But he'll take five and four and be number two

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Speaker 1: or three in the league in passing any day. Over

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Speaker 1: being number one in the NFL and passing and being

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Speaker 1: four and five. As I said on the broadcast, p J.

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Speaker 1: Walker's passer rating match to John Bluete, Blue Tarski's GPA

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Speaker 1: and Animal House zero point zero. Is PJ Walker that bad?

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Speaker 1: Or was the Bengals defense that good? It's a great question.

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00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,040
Speaker 1: I think it was a combination. I mean, I think

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Speaker 1: he just he got caught in a very difficult situation

448
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Speaker 1: the way the offense took control of the football game.

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00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:46,480
Speaker 1: And but three straight three and outs, I mean he

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Speaker 1: did not. He didn't help the cause whatsoever. And it's

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Speaker 1: never just the quarterback. I thought that. You know, one

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Speaker 1: of the things that was a big factor in the

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Speaker 1: game is Carolina runs the ball pretty well and the

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Speaker 1: Bengals didn't allow them to take control of things with

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Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage, and they had to lean on PJ.

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Speaker 1: Walker I think more in this football game in the

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Speaker 1: early stages than they thought they would have to, particularly

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Speaker 1: when they fell behind by two and three and four

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Speaker 1: scores as early as they did. I mean they had

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Speaker 1: done by five at halftime and they yank them. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was it was an unenviable position for him to

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Speaker 1: be in, but he was a big part of it.

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Speaker 1: He was a big part of the reason why. I

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Speaker 1: don't think he was anywhere near as sharp as he

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Speaker 1: probably feels like he could have been after he watched

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Speaker 1: his tape while it was still a game. The Bengals

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Speaker 1: young corners who were pressed into service did a nice job.

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Speaker 1: Cam Taylor, britt and Jail and Davis. They acquitted themselves well.

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Speaker 1: I agree with you. Dan. I remember we're looking at

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Speaker 1: each other in the Cleveland game. How open guys were.

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Speaker 1: It's like, oh huh, I mean, you know a high

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Speaker 1: school quarterback can make these throws. Not today, you know,

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Speaker 1: guys doors coverage and honestly, Carolina Panthers I thought had

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Speaker 1: pretty good coverage on a lot of plays, and Joe

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Speaker 1: was putting putting the ball in very good spots. I

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Speaker 1: mean he was like twenty two for twenty six again

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Speaker 1: some kind of kind of crazy deal like that. I

478
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Speaker 1: remember him throwing one out of bounds intentionally, you know,

479
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Speaker 1: to get rid of the football and save the down

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Speaker 1: to the best of his ability. Soum. He is, this

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Speaker 1: dude is accurate with the football and he can put

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Speaker 1: it in spots. And I think he when he shows

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Speaker 1: confidence in other receivers like Trent and Irwin that he

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Speaker 1: shows I think that's that gets contagious with everybody on

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Speaker 1: the football team as well. There's no doubt when you know.

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Speaker 1: I remember when I was early in my career and

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Speaker 1: did something well and one of the great players and

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Speaker 1: the team said, nice job, Rook. I was like, oh

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Speaker 1: my god, I've died and gone to heaven. Football Heaven

490
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Speaker 1: here I am and when guy. When Joe Burrow makes

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Speaker 1: plays to guys you know that don't get all those

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Speaker 1: opportunities and doesn't have something positive to say about it afterwards,

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Speaker 1: Man that that gives you a boost in your career

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Speaker 1: a big time. So the different between five and four

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Speaker 1: and four and five going into the buy is obviously huge.

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Speaker 1: The Bengals would have been in real trouble had they

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Speaker 1: lost this game. But I think from a mental standpoint,

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Speaker 1: had they gone into the buy with a loss, they

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Speaker 1: would have been miserable. They would have been stewing on it.

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Speaker 1: It wouldn't have been a buy. I mean, your body

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Speaker 1: would have recovered a little bit, but mentally this team

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Speaker 1: would have been in bad shape had they not won.

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Speaker 1: There's three things that in my mind in a buy,

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Speaker 1: you need to take care of physically, particularly the guys

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Speaker 1: that are injured. Try to get as many back as

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Speaker 1: they can. In conversation with Zach after the game, he

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Speaker 1: feels like DJ Reader has a good shot two pole.

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Speaker 1: He said, it is a little bit further away. He

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Speaker 1: didn't think would get two pole right away. But DJ

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Speaker 1: feels pretty good about and other guys he you know,

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Speaker 1: he wasn't real specific about kind of have to take

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Speaker 1: that as that week unfolds and see how quickly guys

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Speaker 1: do recover that have had more recent injuries. But you

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Speaker 1: have to take care of yourself physically, mentally and spiritually,

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Speaker 1: you know, emotionally. And I'm talking football. I'm not talking

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Speaker 1: about you know, whatever your religion is or whatever the case.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I'm talking about that part of the game of football.

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Speaker 1: It's it's part of it's the mental part of it

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00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 1: as well. But you know, the mental part of it

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Speaker 1: is football stuff. You know, you're looking at tape, you're

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Speaker 1: making corrections. I can do this better. I'm just talking

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Speaker 1: about the overall um way you come to work every day,

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Speaker 1: the emotion, the energy level, all those kind of things.

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Speaker 1: The spirituality part of it, I think is equally and

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Speaker 1: that that that would would have been tougher to accomplish

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Speaker 1: with a two game losing streak against teams you know

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Speaker 1: you can beat, and if you lose both of them,

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Speaker 1: that ain't good. I mean, you're remember looking at that ceiling, man,

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Speaker 1: and those those tiles and the ceiling get bigger and bigger,

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Speaker 1: and it's like I can't go to sleep. Um, those

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Speaker 1: those nights are rough. But now you know, you can

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Speaker 1: feel like, all right, we're back on track. We have

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Speaker 1: miles to go before we rest, but at least now

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Speaker 1: we're trending in the right direction. Bring on the Steelers

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Speaker 1: after the buy, Absolutely, bring on the Blitzburg Steelers. And damn,

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Speaker 1: what do you think is gonna be Monday night? Do

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Speaker 1: you think they'll I think that's going to stay at

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Speaker 1: Monday night? Potentially Sunday night, excuse me, Sunday night footba.

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Speaker 1: I think it's gonna stay there, Sunday night football potentially.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I'll find out by Tuesday. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: that would be a very very good bye week present,

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Speaker 1: would I mean, I know people love the primetime exposure

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Speaker 1: for the Bengals, and I get that, but from a

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Speaker 1: very selfish perspective, these nighttime road games are tough on

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Speaker 1: the old broadcast crew physically, no doubt. I mean, it

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Speaker 1: gets me. It's not just a day recovery this old man.

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Speaker 1: It takes a little bit a little bit longer. And man,

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Speaker 1: I mean it's always fun, the energy and all that

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Speaker 1: sort of thing. But Pittsburgh it's a division rival. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that stadium is going to be rocking. It'll be good

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Speaker 1: to go there and get a W and get get

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Speaker 1: the first division win. That's first and foremost, get a

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Speaker 1: division win on the road and turn around that aspect

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Speaker 1: of things during the course of the season. Here starting

555
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Speaker 1: to out on three division is not a happy place

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Speaker 1: to be. So we shall see him. I'd love to

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Speaker 1: do it at one o'clock or four o'clock. You and

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Speaker 1: it's time for this week's fun Facts interview, where we

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Speaker 1: get to know the person under the pads. Time for

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Speaker 1: some fun facts with offensive lineman Alex Kappa from Dublin, California,

565
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Speaker 1: about a half an hour from San Francisco. That is

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Speaker 1: one of my favorite cities in the world to visit.

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Speaker 1: What were some of your favorite things about growing up

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Speaker 1: in the Bay Area. Oh, that's a good question. Weather's

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Speaker 1: pretty good. People are good. That's what made Dublins a

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Speaker 1: great place to grow up. It's just your family town. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I was out in the suburbs, so we didn't really

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Speaker 1: make it into the city and stuff like that that often.

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Speaker 1: But it's all a great place to grow up. In addition,

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Speaker 1: end up playing sports as a kid. It sounds like

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Speaker 1: you were a drama kid. I was in school musicals

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Speaker 1: and plays and things like that. Did you act in

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Speaker 1: high school productions and it was just something you really enjoyed?

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Speaker 1: I did. I very much enjoyed it. My brothers kind

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Speaker 1: of got me into it. My two older brothers were

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Speaker 1: both in the theater and improv. I was making the improv.

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Speaker 1: That's where I met my wife, So I can't argue

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Speaker 1: with that. So I've read that you didn't play offensive

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Speaker 1: line until you were a senior in high school. How

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Speaker 1: did that come about? I started playing as a junior

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Speaker 1: a little bit. My first two years, I was a

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Speaker 1: tight end, and then we had a new coach come

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Speaker 1: in and we transitioned like a spread offense. We literally

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Speaker 1: weren't using the tight end at all, so I was

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Speaker 1: like a backup slot receiver and that wasn't gonna work.

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Speaker 1: So one day I was just like, ah, I just

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Speaker 1: played tackle, and he was like, yeah, might as well.

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Speaker 1: And then I kind of went back and forth in

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Speaker 1: high school. So like, if we had decided one game

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Speaker 1: we're gonna use the tight end, I would go throw

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Speaker 1: on a tight end jersey and maybe in the middle

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Speaker 1: of the game, I'll switch back and play tackle. Like

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Speaker 1: I was kind of going back and forth. You're a

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Speaker 1: large man now, but were you something of a late

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Speaker 1: bloomer in terms of your size. I was a little

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Speaker 1: skinny in high school, I would say. I was like

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Speaker 1: when I started playing tackle, I was like two twenty,

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Speaker 1: maybe a little less. I was a little skinny back

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Speaker 1: in the back. So your high school or your hometown newspaper,

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Speaker 1: I should say, said that you were a zero star

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Speaker 1: recruit and you wound up at Division two Humboldt State

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Speaker 1: in the northern part of California, just south of Oregon.

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Speaker 1: It's not a football factory, But was it right for you?

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Speaker 1: I was amazing as everything I could have hope for.

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Speaker 1: I had great teammates that wanted to work hard. Like

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Speaker 1: our old line room. We trained like we were all

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Speaker 1: going to the NFL. My strength coach was amazing, one

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Speaker 1: of the best strength coach in the country. He set

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Speaker 1: me up like, like I said, I was skinny when

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Speaker 1: I got there, I was definitely needed to develop. And

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Speaker 1: then we had a guy, Taylor Bobs, who was playing

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Speaker 1: offensive line in the NFL. Is the only other guy

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Speaker 1: from Humboldt in recent story to play in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: and he helped me out and got me going. How

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Speaker 1: about diet, Were you one of these guys that like

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Speaker 1: had to have the peanut butter and jelly sandwich at

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Speaker 1: midnight to try to put on weight stuff like that.

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Speaker 1: The go to after workouts early in college was chili dogs.

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Speaker 1: So we will go, like me and my roommate, he

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Speaker 1: was a receiver. He was hoping to get to like

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Speaker 1: one eighty and I was hoping to get a little

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Speaker 1: bigger than that. And we will go four chili dogs

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Speaker 1: with like a protein shake with ice cream and would

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Speaker 1: put card powder in it and all that, and we'ld

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Speaker 1: have like two dinners and another shake before beds. So

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Speaker 1: we were eating big time. You've come to the right

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Speaker 1: city if you have an affinity for chili dogs. May

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Speaker 1: have grown out of the chili dogs. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Who need to pack on a way like I did

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Speaker 1: back then. We're chatting with Alex Cappa. You were quoted

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Speaker 1: as saying, if you want to be successful in football.

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Speaker 1: It has to be an obsession. Did that become the

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Speaker 1: case for you? What I tell like younger kids coming

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Speaker 1: up and high school kids, college kids is you have

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Speaker 1: to know, like what your goals are and your level

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Speaker 1: of commitment have to be line with those goals. So like,

641
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 1: if you're at Division two and you want to play

642
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 1: in the NFL, then you probably should be pretty freaking committed.

643
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 1: And if you just want to have fun, then you

644
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 1: just want to have fun. But I knew I wanted

645
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Speaker 1: to play at a high level, so I really prioritized it.

646
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 1: You had a great career at Humboldt State, four time

647
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Speaker 1: Alignment of the Year in your conference, you earned an

648
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 1: invitation to the Senior Bowl, and now you're up against

649
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 1: the best players in the country. How important was that

650
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 1: invite and having the opportunity to test yourself against the

651
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 1: Krem deal La Krem. Yeah, it was fun. I think

652
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 1: it kind of I was pretty confident going in, but

653
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 1: I think it kind of built my confidence as well,

654
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 1: like seeing some gosh from Breater schools and realized that

655
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 1: I act compete with these guys too, And then it

656
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 1: was just good for coaches to see that I could

657
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 1: as well, while you were there, the NFL networks Mike

658
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 1: Mayock famously said your tape was the nastiest he had

659
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 1: ever seen. What was your reaction when you heard that?

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00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: He hyped me up? Hyped up. That was a pretty

661
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 1: fun week. There were like a couple of things that

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00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 1: like people really caught onto that week. And you know,

663
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 1: when you're coming out, like the draft process, it feels

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00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 1: so big to you, like it feels like it's the

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00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,879
Speaker 1: biggest thing and everybody's watching, and so it was cool

666
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Speaker 1: to get some shout outs like that and get a

667
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 1: lot of eyes on me. The draft worked out well.

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Speaker 1: You were a third round draft picked by the Tampa

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Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers in twenty eighteen. Describe your draft experience. I

670
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 1: was kind of like hoping that was the second day,

671
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:26,879
Speaker 1: and I went like at the end of the third round,

672
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 1: which is the end of the second day. So it

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00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 1: was me and my dad, my now wife, and like

674
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 1: one other friend to hanging out and it was like

675
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 1: getting the end of the second day, I was like,

676
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 1: come on, like hope and we don't have to come

677
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 1: back for that third day. And then that called from

678
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 1: Tampa caught me on guard. I'd like barely talk to

679
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 1: them at all, so that caught me off guard. But

680
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 1: it was a lot of fun. We went out and

681
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:52,320
Speaker 1: got some peats afterwards, a good celebratory feast. We're chatting

682
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: me that like Skappa. So you go to the Bucks

683
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 1: in your third year, they signed Tom Brady. You guys

684
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,839
Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl. Unfortunately you didn't get a chance

685
00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 1: to playing the game because you broke your ankle in

686
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 1: the wildcard playoff round against Washington and tried to keep playing.

687
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 1: Can you explain how that one? Well? I tried. It

688
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,320
Speaker 1: was two minute drive at the end of the first half,

689
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: and when you get hurt, you really don't want to

690
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 1: burn a time out in the two minute drive. So, like,

691
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:19,839
Speaker 1: I never didn't feel good. I tried to pop up,

692
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 1: but like I took too long to get up, So

693
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 1: then they blew it dead and Tom's yelling at me,

694
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 1: like what are we doing? Come on? So I went

695
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 1: to the locker room and I didn't know it was broken.

696
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 1: I just thought it was like spraying. So you know,

697
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 1: they tape you up and all that. Everyone comes to

698
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 1: locker room for halftime like are you good? Are you good?

699
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,359
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I'm good. I guess and I went

700
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 1: out to warm up, and I was definitely not good.

701
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 1: I tried, but I unsuccessful. Was the Super Bowl bitter

702
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 1: suite at all? Since you had started every game and

703
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 1: didn't give up a sack that year, but couldn't play

704
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 1: in the game itself. I mean, you want to be

705
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 1: out there, for sure. It was a unique experience because

706
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 1: it was COVID too, so it was like you were

707
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 1: limited on how much you could even be in there

708
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 1: if you weren't active and all that. So it was weird,

709
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 1: but obviously I was. It was a lot of fun,

710
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 1: pretty cool experience for sure. You became a free agent

711
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 1: this year. You were one of the first guys to sign,

712
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 1: showing how eager the Bengals were to bring you into

713
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 1: this organization. It's been reported that Tom Brady called and

714
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 1: tried to get you to change your mind. Did that

715
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 1: in fact happen? Oh, keep those conversations to ourselves. But

716
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,479
Speaker 1: I was very excited to come here, for sure. So

717
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 1: as a Super Bowl champion, you got the opportunity to

718
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 1: go to the White House. What was that experience like

719
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 1: for you? It was pretty cool. I was hoping we

720
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:36,360
Speaker 1: would get a little more time there. It's kind of

721
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 1: like rush. It's a they're busy over there, so let's

722
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 1: kind of flying and fly out. But it was really

723
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 1: cool and I want to go back and see more.

724
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 1: I haven't really been to DC much, but it was cool.

725
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 1: The whole experience was really cool. I like that history,

726
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 1: so I enjoyed it all right. Some wild card topics

727
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,720
Speaker 1: now with Alex Kappa. I've read that you can juggle?

728
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 1: Is that the case? And how many items I can?

729
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 1: It's been a while. I aren't to good be able

730
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:04,919
Speaker 1: to jumble A four pretty good right now? Definitely just three.

731
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 1: H I'd do a few little tricks, but it's been

732
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 1: a while, so I'll stick with three for now. Have

733
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 1: you had any paying jobs aside from professional football player? Yeah,

734
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 1: I played. I worked for the Humboldt Crabs. It was

735
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 1: like a college summer team up in Humboldt base Baseball. Yeah,

736
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 1: and we were security slash clean up, so we would

737
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 1: somebody would get too rowdy, would have to take them out.

738
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,479
Speaker 1: For the most part, we were sweeping up some flower

739
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 1: scenes after the game. But it was a lot of fun.

740
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 1: We had a bunch of football players that would do

741
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 1: that job. Have you saved any Humboldt Crabs gear. Oh,

742
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 1: I got something for sure, as my wife was wearing

743
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 1: a sweater last night. Humblet Crabs. How about that? When

744
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 1: was the last time you had short hair? Because you've

745
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,399
Speaker 1: got the long flowing locks now. I think the sixth

746
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 1: grade sixth grade shaved it in sixth grade and said

747
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 1: I've had it long. Did your parents ever, you know,

748
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,439
Speaker 1: give you any crap about it or did they say,

749
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 1: you know, hair is a battle we don't want to fight. No,

750
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 1: they didn't mind. There was a They try to use

751
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 1: those like leverage. I guess as long as you got

752
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 1: good grades, you'd have long hair. Like that'll work all right.

753
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 1: I've got a sixteen year old that's good to remember

754
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 1: because his hair is getting very long. What do you

755
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 1: like to splur John? What do you like to spend

756
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 1: your money on food? As in nice restaurants? Yeah? Nice restaurants,

757
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 1: I would say, is the main thing? Says that I

758
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 1: don't know. Do you have an all time favorite restaurant? Not?

759
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,800
Speaker 1: The one that comes to mind is valves Burgers in

760
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 1: Hayward or maybe cash a Falley in California. Growing up,

761
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 1: we'll go all the time. It's like a fifty style

762
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:36,280
Speaker 1: diner with a huge cheeseburger's delicious. It sounds like like diners,

763
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 1: drives and dive in or whatever. I forget those words,

764
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 1: but you know what I'm talking. I think they may

765
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 1: have stopped there. It's got good shake, its good fries,

766
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: good everything. All right, I'm gonna have to scribble that

767
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 1: one down for the next time I'm in the Bay Area.

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Speaker 1: Final fun fact for Alex Kappan. I appreciate your time.

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00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 1: This is kind of deep. If you could meet anybody

770
00:38:54,320 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 1: in history, athlete, actor, statesman, religious figure, whoever it might be,

771
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 1: who would that person be, I don't know, probably like

772
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 1: some old president or something, George Washington or do something

773
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 1: like that. One of those guys who was in the

774
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 1: room back then, you know, one of the room where

775
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 1: it happens it half Maybe one of those guys. That'd

776
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:16,360
Speaker 1: be interesting. Hard to go wrong with. The father of

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00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 1: our country. Can't go wrong with that. This has been fun.

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00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 1: I appreciate your time. It's great to have you on

779
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 1: the team. Best of what the rest of the year.

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00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Thanks for having me. That's going

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