1 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: And that's a wrap on training camp inside State Farm Stadium. 2 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: Welcome Bird Gang. On today's show, Zach Gershman joins me 3 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: the Cardinals hell their final practice in the stadium on Wednesday. 4 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: Training camp though is not quite over, still two more 5 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 1: weeks to go, one week contempt be one week in Minnesota. 6 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 1: We'll also look ahead to Friday's preseason opener. What do 7 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 1: we want to see? Who do we want to see? 8 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 1: That's all straight ahead. It's Cardinals Cover two, Episode six 9 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 1: sixty one, and it starts now. 10 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two. 11 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 3: Who to Baker? 12 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: What Heart? What rent? This guy's unbelievable. 13 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 2: Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyundai Crowd, partner of 14 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals, and by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts. Visit Azycardinals 15 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 2: dot com Slash podcasts. 16 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 3: He's at the ten half of five. He's it again, 17 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 3: so more hurry magic. 18 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 2: WHOA, here's Craig Griolud. 19 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 1: Hate to begin this show on a down note, and 20 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:11,119 Speaker 1: it's not because we have young Zach on the show, 21 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: but we did get news on Wednesday, and you always 22 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: hate when this happens, but it is a part of 23 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:20,119 Speaker 1: the game. It's part of football an injury, and we 24 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 1: saw on Tuesday running back Marlin Mack have to be 25 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: helped to the sideline hurt during seven on seven appeared 26 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:30,960 Speaker 1: to lose his footing slipped perhaps, but we got word 27 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: from head coach Jonathan Gannon that it is a torn 28 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 1: achilles and Mac just like that, Zach. He was signed 29 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: late last week and now five days later his season 30 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: is done before we're really even into September. 31 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:47,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it was a shame because we spoke to 32 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 3: him his first day practicing and he said how he 33 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 3: was so excited. This is the opportunity that he wanted 34 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 3: to take advantage of. We asked him about his feet 35 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 3: being like how he was really how he was pretty 36 00:01:57,680 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 3: fresh compared to some of the guys that've been going 37 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 3: through the training process, and he said it. You could 38 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 3: sense it a little bit, but as you mentioned, it's 39 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,279 Speaker 3: the unfortunate part of the game. And you could clearly 40 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 3: tell that Jonathan Gannon was upset about it. I didn't 41 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 3: want to say the news, but obviously had to. He 42 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 3: looked so good talking about Mac during the red and 43 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 3: white practice and it was, as you mentioned, the fresh legs, 44 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 3: but just that burst and he's got that veteran experience. 45 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:26,959 Speaker 3: He has the ties to JG and offensive line coach 46 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 3: Clayton Adams going back to their time in Indianapolis. I 47 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 3: was hopeful and optimistic that, you know, James Connors RB 48 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:39,799 Speaker 3: one and then behind him, you know, do you rely 49 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 3: on Corey Clement, Is it Keyanta Ingram, is it someone else? 50 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 3: I always thought that they were going to bring in 51 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 3: another running back at some points in training camp, just 52 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 3: because of reps and how much the starters will play 53 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 3: during the preseason. But to get an opportunity, you've been 54 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 3: waiting all off season, summer and then all of a sudden, 55 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 3: you get that opportunity when you make a strong first 56 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 3: impression and then boom, it's done, just like that, and 57 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 3: it literally happens just like that, just with the snap 58 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 3: of a finger. Something unfortunate like what happened with Mac 59 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 3: could potentially happen. And we were talking about the RB 60 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 3: two battle. We know who RB one is. It's James Connor. 61 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 3: There's there's no questions surrounding that. But whether it's going 62 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 3: to be Corey or Keante. That's what we were talking 63 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 3: about these press conferences with Drew Petsing and with Jonathan 64 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 3: Gannon who's standing out, and obviously both of them did 65 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 3: not really give any clear answers, But once Marlin Mack 66 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 3: jumped into the room, the conversation shifted a little bit. 67 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 3: It's about the impact that a veteran, as you mentioned, 68 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 3: who has familiarity with the staff could come in and 69 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 3: make an impact. And as you mentioned Craig, he was 70 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 3: making an impact within the first two three days that 71 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 3: he was on the field, and unfortunately that one practice 72 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 3: and unfortunately happened to him. 73 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, we wish nothing that the best for Marlon macar 74 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: Let's do a whole one eighty and bring some positivity 75 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 1: here to Cardinals. Cover two presented by Hundai, proud partner 76 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals. And that is something that we 77 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: did see on Wednesday, the final open practice, the final 78 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: practice here at State Farm Stadium, and that was seen 79 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: Number eighty five. Tight end Trey McBride participates in a 80 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: full practice for the first time since July twenty seventh. Now, 81 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: it was a low tempo practice after the high intensity 82 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: padded practice on Tuesday, but the fact that McBride is 83 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: out there going through everything, the individual position drills seven 84 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: on seven eleven on eleven. We had not seen a 85 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: lot of team work from McBride, but there he was 86 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: going through it and again low tempo, so it's about 87 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 1: what would you say, half speed course, he still got bumped. 88 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 3: He still got bumped when he was playing when they 89 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 3: were doing the seven on seven drills and he was 90 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:47,119 Speaker 3: running his routes, and Trey McBride was on the side 91 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 3: majority of training camp thus far doing individual drills as 92 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 3: you mentioned with the tight ends coach and with the 93 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 3: with the fellow tight ends as well. He was on 94 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 3: the side. And then once they would come together and 95 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 3: run drills on the field seven on seven and eleven 96 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 3: on eleven, we would not seed number eighty five on 97 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 3: the field. In on Tuesday we saw him a little 98 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 3: bit on the field for seven on sevens, was on 99 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:08,679 Speaker 3: the field for a player two for eleven on elevens 100 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 3: and as you mentioned today on Wednesday was really that 101 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 3: first day where we saw Trey McBride all holds bar, 102 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 3: ready to go. 103 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 1: And it's important, I think for McBride to be on 104 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:24,239 Speaker 1: the field, whether it's practice preseason. He needs the reps 105 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: more so now because of the time he's missed. But 106 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: the uncertainty was Zach Ertz. And if you want to 107 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 1: run two three tight end sets during the course of 108 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 1: the season, you're gonna need tight ends. Trey McBride, Jeff Swain. 109 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: And now the question is, all right, if Ertz is 110 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 1: not available, who becomes that third tight end, that fourth 111 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:47,039 Speaker 1: tight end? Perhaps because we've seen it throughout training camp 112 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: here you're seen two tight ends, three tight ends, a 113 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: tight end of the backfield as a blocking fullback. It 114 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: is a major piece of this offense. And then to 115 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: lose Ertz, McBride missed a handful of practices, so didn't 116 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: know Ah Tagii. Yeah, and we did not see him 117 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: now for the third straight day, and he's someone that 118 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 1: really impressed. So that tight end room has kind of 119 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 1: been up and down. But a to end on a 120 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: positive note with McBride being on the field, I think 121 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: hopefully means good things. 122 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,160 Speaker 3: It hopefully does. And it's funny because I was reading 123 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 3: one of Darren Urban's articles and he talked about a 124 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 3: conversation he had with Noah Togii and he was saying 125 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 3: how Blake Whiteheart, the rookie would come back to the 126 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 3: sidelines just drenched and sweat because They're rotating these tight 127 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 3: ends on every single play, and it's not just one 128 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 3: tight end, as you mentioned, you have that two to 129 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 3: three tight end formation. They are heavily involved in the offense. 130 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:39,919 Speaker 3: And that's why with the addition of Jeff Swain, you 131 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 3: could clearly see the impact he was making from when 132 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 3: he first got into practice, and Jag spoke about it 133 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 3: and his post in his press conference prior to practice 134 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 3: the day after I believe he was signed and he 135 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 3: said Jeff Swain was right in the thick of it. 136 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 3: But once you have a guy like Trey McBride who 137 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,479 Speaker 3: is becoming healthy as the tight ends are starting to 138 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 3: have their little ni Trey McBride's coming in at the 139 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 3: right time. He's getting healthy at the right time. Act 140 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 3: what type of impact he has on Friday's game, that's TBD, 141 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 3: but at least we could see that he's making an 142 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 3: effort and getting back into practice. 143 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: You bring up Friday's preseason opener, the Denver Broncos in town. 144 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: Seven pm is the kickoff here at State Farm Stadium 145 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: three point thirty Pregame coverage begins on the Arizona Cardinals 146 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: Radio network. We asked, we have repeatedly asked several follow 147 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: up questions as well, but JG not saying anything as 148 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: far as who will play, who won't play, how long 149 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: they will play. He was as specifically about Colt McCoy 150 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: and he did say he will play on Friday. Outside 151 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 1: of that, I really don't know what to expect. I'm 152 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: hopeful that we see everyone, barring injury, participate in at 153 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: least a series or two. But I'm curious how this 154 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: coaching staff operates preseason football, and. 155 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 3: That's the unknown. I guess that's the beauty of the sport. 156 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 3: No one knows. The Broncos don't know, The people in 157 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 3: the office don't know. It's really the guys on that 158 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 3: field that know kind of what's going on. And JG 159 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 3: has spoke about how we explain what we're doing, why 160 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 3: we're doing it, and how we're doing it. And the 161 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 3: guys in them in the Wigwa I'm reading room, they're 162 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 3: all together. They're the ones that know what's going on, 163 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 3: and they're keeping it very tight to their vest, making 164 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 3: sure that nobody else knows. JG's not interested in leaking 165 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 3: any sort of strategy to give the Broncos any sort 166 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 3: of advantage, and he said somebody asked him during the 167 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 3: press conference on Wednesday. They said to him, doesn't matter win, loser, draw, 168 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 3: it's a preseason game. And he said, anytime you strap 169 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 3: up the helmet and you go between those white lines, 170 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 3: you got to be prepared to win a football game. 171 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 2: Quote. 172 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: That's the number one goal end quote. And that's the 173 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: philosophy that JG has when it comes to any kind 174 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 1: of football. To your point, Zach, and we did hear 175 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: from Hollywood Brown after practice, he wants to play at 176 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:58,319 Speaker 1: some point in the preseason. Quote, I want to get 177 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: some reps, build chemistry. He added that he is as 178 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: healthy as he's ever been in the preseason and the 179 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 1: amount of work that we have seen him do on 180 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 1: the sideline working with wide receivers coach and passing game 181 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:14,559 Speaker 1: coordinator Drew Terrell, just on footwork and route running. While 182 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: special teams activities are going on, those two are communicating 183 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 1: and you see Drew go through some movement and then 184 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,719 Speaker 1: Hollywood goes through the same movement. Obviously a little bit 185 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: higher tempo than his coach. But those two I think 186 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 1: have formed a nice bond. And you hope now that again, 187 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:37,199 Speaker 1: how quickly can you get off the line of scrimmage. 188 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 1: That first step, first step and a half can be 189 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: the difference between a ten yard catch and yak or 190 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: a ten yard catch and you're tackled right on the spot. 191 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 3: And especially with a guy like Hollywood Brown, who's known 192 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 3: for his speed getting off that line and making those 193 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 3: quick movements, that's his game. That's why he's been such 194 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 3: a dominant player in the NFL. It's why he's been 195 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 3: such a sought after player. It's why he's got the 196 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 3: nickname Hollywood that Gus Johnson gave him because of the speed, 197 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 3: the excitement that he brings to an offense. And Hollywood 198 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 3: was saying, regardless if it's going to be this game 199 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 3: against the Broncos the following against the Chiefs, whichever way 200 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 3: he could get it done, he's going to try to 201 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 3: get onto the field. He did mention that he hasn't 202 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:19,319 Speaker 3: spoken to the coaching staff about whether he will or 203 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 3: will not get onto the field for this coming Friday's game, 204 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:24,199 Speaker 3: but we know that he's eager. He's chopping at the 205 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 3: bit because he wants to go out there. And we 206 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 3: talked a little bit about Colt McCoy. He said that 207 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 3: a big part of it is building the relationship with 208 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 3: your quarterbacks. We know the type of friendship he has 209 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 3: with Kyler Murray off the field, but to see the 210 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 3: type of relationship he needs to build with Colt McCoy. 211 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 3: If Colt McCoy will be the game one starter against Washington, 212 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 3: he's got to build that connection with him. Same with 213 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 3: same with the rookie Clayton tune. 214 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 1: By the way, I don't buy anything that these players 215 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 1: have said when they are asked about playtime and the 216 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: fact that they don't know, they know, they know, Jay 217 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: g knows. They're just choosing not to not to ship 218 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 1: form us exactly. They're not being friendly as far as sharing. 219 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 1: They'd be very selfish, very tongue in cheek crag. 220 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 3: I was always told secrets are no fun in Leicester's 221 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 3: share with everyone, and honestly, this has not been. This 222 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 3: is not fun, heyge, I gotta know what's going on. 223 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 1: Do not know how much the starters will play, don't 224 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: know who will or will not play. But again, I 225 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 1: hope that we see at least a series, meaning an 226 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: extended series from the first team offense and defense where 227 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: it's seven, eight, nine, ten plays, or it's if it 228 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 1: is a quick three and out, four and out that 229 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 1: we see them for two series, just to kind of 230 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 1: get your feet wet, knock the rust off. Do we 231 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: get a sensor with this offense will look like? What 232 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 1: about the defense based off what we've seen in training camp? 233 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 1: Now in a game setting where all eyeballs are on it, 234 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 1: do we get more of an idea of what this 235 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 1: team will look like? 236 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 3: You would hope. So you would hope that that's the case. 237 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 3: And everybody that we have spoken to has talked about 238 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 3: the excitement of playing against somebody that's not wearing the 239 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 3: red and white jersey. They want to go against different 240 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 3: sorts of competition, especially in the trenches. We talked with 241 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 3: Yeldferroholt yesterday when he was in his locker and he said, 242 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 3: you know, it was getting a little bit chippy out 243 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 3: there because the defense knows what we want to do, 244 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 3: The offense knows what the defense wants to do. Getting 245 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 3: the opportunity to play against other talent, that's what you're 246 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 3: looking forward to. So when it comes to Friday's game, 247 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:25,680 Speaker 3: in the future games, that's what you're going to be 248 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 3: hoping for. When it comes to the snaps, all these 249 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 3: guys want to be on the field. Everyone's fighting for 250 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 3: a roster spot. We know who's got a roster spot, 251 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 3: but JG has said that there's competition at every single 252 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 3: position on the grid iron. So whether it's going to 253 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 3: be a Hollywood Brown or Greg Dortch or a Davion Davis, 254 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 3: whoever it might be, somebody is trying to get that 255 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 3: roster spot and get their reps in. 256 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 1: Before we get into specific players. A couple other points 257 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: of emphasis, at least that I'll have my eye on 258 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: for this first game. One, it's the physicality, how well 259 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: these players tackling. It's hard to practice tackling during practice, 260 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 1: but now you're going to be tackling to the ground 261 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 1: and that is a little bit of an adjustment. The 262 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:12,199 Speaker 1: other is the communication the operation. Not just the communication 263 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: between quarterback or middle linebacker to his teammates, but from 264 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: the sideline to the players, from the booth to the 265 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: sideline to the players. How does that all work. Where 266 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 1: you have twenty three new assistant coaches and forty eight 267 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 1: new players on this team. 268 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:30,079 Speaker 3: It's not going to be the same team that left 269 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 3: State Farm Stadium last year. This is a completely different 270 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 3: team from the top down. All the way from your 271 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 3: general manager to your equipment guys, everybody in between. There's 272 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:41,319 Speaker 3: a lot of new faces on his roster and Craig 273 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 3: You mentioned the communication aspect of it, and that's something 274 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 3: that offensive coordinator Drew Petsing talked about how this is 275 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:51,439 Speaker 3: his first time calling an offense. It's Nick rolis first 276 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 3: time calling a defense. JG's giving them the keys. You 277 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:57,199 Speaker 3: take over. He's going to be there to help, as 278 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:00,120 Speaker 3: he said, but you take over. It's your offense and 279 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:02,959 Speaker 3: it's your defensive call. And Petsing talked about how he's 280 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 3: not sure if he's gonna prefer to go from the 281 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 3: booth or from the sidelines. He's gonna be using this 282 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:10,439 Speaker 3: preseason time to really gauge how that's gonna be. There's 283 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 3: gonna be lapses of judgment. That happened. It's a given. 284 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 3: We would be naive if we said otherwise. But as 285 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 3: long as the penalties are cleared up the little bit, 286 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 3: because we've seen a lot of that through training camp, 287 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 3: a lot of pre snat penalties, a lot of fall 288 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 3: starts and off sides penalties. As long as that's cleared up, 289 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 3: you're starting to get your bearings under you. A little bit. 290 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, too many penalties in the red and white practice 291 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 1: fall starts. It is an insistent holding NLS wile man 292 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: downfield a lot on the offense and the offensive line. Look, 293 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 1: I'm okay with the physical penalties that happen sometimes a 294 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: hold or past interference, the aggressiveness of the game itself. 295 00:14:54,720 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 1: It's the pre and postnat penalties that are unnecessary, four 296 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 1: unacceptable and can really hurt a team on either side 297 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: of the ball. 298 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 3: And a group of referees went to the wigwam and 299 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 3: they spoke to the team about what's allowed, what's not allowed, 300 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 3: and they spoke to the head coaching. They spoke to 301 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 3: the coaching staff as well. And I asked JG, I, God, 302 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 3: you learn anything through speaking with these referees, and he said, 303 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 3: don't challenge this play because it's gonna get it's not 304 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 3: gonna get overturned or whatever it might be. And the 305 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 3: fact that the penalties are there when it's just you 306 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:33,239 Speaker 3: and your own guys, there's no opposing crowd booing you. 307 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 3: Your crowd's not here as loud as it could be. 308 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 3: The pre snat penalties are definitely a cause of concern, 309 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 3: but we are only in week two week three of 310 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 3: training camp, they're gonna clear it up. But you got 311 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 3: to clear it up between now and Friday and then 312 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 3: take the what you what you get from Friday's game 313 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 3: against Denver, bringing onto the next. 314 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: As the head coach likes to say, it's not winning behavior. 315 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 3: Nope, very frowned upon. I leave a water bottle at 316 00:15:57,760 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 3: the podium. It's not winning behavior. 317 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: It's true. He's even cleaning the place up. That's how 318 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 1: involved the head coach is. All right, as we continue 319 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: to look and preview what's ahead, at least from the 320 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals side of things, the Denver Broncos, at least 321 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: according to our head coach, Sean Payton, the starters will 322 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: play that includes Russell Wilson, probably in the area from 323 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 1: fifteen to eighteen snaps. We'll see what happens Friday at 324 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: seven pm. All right, Specifically players, whether that is a 325 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 1: group of players in a specific position group or just 326 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 1: single out a player first time out on the football field. 327 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: Who do you have your eye on. 328 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go on both sides of the ball here. 329 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go one on the offense. You got to 330 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 3: keep an eye out for Paris Johnson Junior. You want 331 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 3: to see how the first round pick is going to 332 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 3: deal with a different sort of strength coming at you. 333 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 3: As I mentioned prior to this, you could start to 334 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 3: gain the tendencies of your defensive line when you compete 335 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 3: against them so much. Yes, they're making each other better, 336 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 3: but now you have somebody that's not necessarily interested in 337 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 3: making you better. You have somebody that wants to get 338 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 3: to the quarterback and get to Olt McCoy, or get 339 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 3: to Clayton Tune or Draft driscoll or David Blau. You 340 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 3: have somebody that's gonna want to get to the back 341 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 3: there and make those tackles. How Paris Johnson matches up 342 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:12,160 Speaker 3: against a defensive line that he's not used to. That's 343 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 3: a number one player on the offensive side of the ball. 344 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 3: I'm most interested in. On the defensive side of the ball, 345 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 3: Dennis Gardick has taken a completely different role. He's been 346 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 3: number one on the depth chart for the most part 347 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 3: on one of those outside linebacker spots. He has gotten 348 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:27,400 Speaker 3: the best of Paris Johnson Junior a handful of times 349 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:30,120 Speaker 3: draft camp. He wants to make a name for himself. 350 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 3: The previous couple seasons have not gone to his liking, 351 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:35,199 Speaker 3: he's been more of a special team's role. Now he 352 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 3: has the opportunity to use the violent physicality and strength 353 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 3: of an outside linebacker to try to get to a quarterback. 354 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: For Gardik, it was twenty twenty, so we're talking three 355 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: seasons ago. Seven sacks over ninety four defensive snaps. Now, 356 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 1: was that a one off? And Gardik has talked about 357 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 1: that in the past as well. He knows people are 358 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:01,880 Speaker 1: wondering do it again or was that just a flash 359 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:05,959 Speaker 1: in the pan? So yeah, gard deck how quickly and 360 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 1: it's not so much all right, he didn't record a 361 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 1: sack in the preseason, But are you affecting the play? 362 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 1: Are you getting to the backfield? Are you forcing that 363 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 1: quarterback off his spot? You want to be able to 364 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:21,400 Speaker 1: see that from him and that entire edge rushing group, 365 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 1: because we've talked about it. Thirty six sacs last season. 366 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:29,439 Speaker 1: Half of those they're gone, they're gone. JJ Watt retired. 367 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 1: Zach Allen you're gonna see him on Friday on the 368 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 1: other side of the field, leaving to the Denver Broncos 369 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: in free agency. So I like the two names. And 370 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 1: just because I cheated, I didn't single anyone. 371 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 3: Out come on. 372 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 1: But you bring up Paris Johnson. I'm just gonna include 373 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: the entire rookie class, just the draft picks, and specifically 374 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 1: Paris Clayton Tune. A lot of talk. Everyone loves the 375 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 1: backup quarterback Michael Wilson and Key Trail Clark, and Michael 376 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 1: Wilson is certainly flashed and John Gaines good call. Yes 377 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 1: he's been moving either from center or guard working with 378 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 1: that second team. So that entire draft class. I think 379 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 1: we still don't know about. Garrett Williams. Dante still is 380 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:19,680 Speaker 1: a Day three pick. I think they all can have 381 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 1: their moments if you will, this preseason and be contributors 382 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:29,120 Speaker 1: in the regular season. But comparis block the edge, as 383 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: DJ Humphreys likes to say. Can Clayton Tune manufacture a drive, 384 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:38,159 Speaker 1: complete some passes running offense? Michael Wilson, is he catching 385 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 1: the ball like he did in training camp? And Key 386 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 1: Trail Clark, who has There might not be a more 387 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:49,160 Speaker 1: camera friendly player on this team than number thirteen. Key 388 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 1: Trail Clark very enthusiastic but also very competitive and I 389 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 1: think is anxious to show that, Yeah, day three pick, 390 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 1: but can still be a viable and very dangerous cornerback 391 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: in the league. 392 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 3: And he's competing against guys like Zach Paskell, Hylod Brown, 393 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:09,439 Speaker 3: Michael Wilson, guys that are gonna be a part of 394 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 3: your starting unit come the game against Washington. He wants 395 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,640 Speaker 3: to prove himself that he was the steal of the draft. 396 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 3: I know Michael Wilson and his videos said that he 397 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:20,199 Speaker 3: was the steal of the draft. The guys that were 398 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 3: drafting the later rounds, they want to show their worth 399 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 3: that they're not what is perceived to be a late 400 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 3: draft a right round draft pick. They want to make 401 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 3: sure that they're able to come in and make an 402 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:31,160 Speaker 3: impact on a fifty three man roster and key tril 403 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 3: Clark has been doing that throughout training camp and we've 404 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 3: seen his personality show. You could see he's having fun 405 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 3: to play in the game. I know we were watching 406 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 3: him dance for about five or six minutes on the 407 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 3: field during during drills. He's having fun doing it. And 408 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 3: JG's talked about for a guy like him who's played 409 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 3: a position that JAG has put so much energy and 410 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:53,120 Speaker 3: effort into throughout his coaching career. He wants to see 411 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:54,440 Speaker 3: a guy like keetrow improved. 412 00:20:54,760 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 1: I was videotaping the pre practice team stretch and I 413 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:04,120 Speaker 1: panned over and on our sideline where we were standing 414 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 1: is where the defense we get the up close view 415 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 1: of the defense, and I just happened to pan over 416 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:11,919 Speaker 1: and just kind of set the camera there for a 417 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 1: little bit, and there is thirteen coming back and starts waving. 418 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 1: Couldn't tell if he had a smile on his face. 419 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 1: I'm sure he always has a smile on his face. 420 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:25,919 Speaker 1: But keithro Clark is one of those good guys that 421 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: you hope that you can root for and the hope 422 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: are successful, at least selfishly from a media standpoint. But 423 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 1: there's a lot of players on that rookie class draft 424 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 1: class that have been very very good with the media, 425 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 1: Michael Wilson specifically, very very good. So one thing to 426 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: be good off the field, but you only get to 427 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:46,880 Speaker 1: talk to us off the field if you're good. 428 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 3: Off the field. 429 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 430 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 3: And I was talking with Dennis Daily yesterday about the 431 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 3: offensive line, having the rookies with Paris Johnson Junior and 432 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,360 Speaker 3: John Gains a second and bringing them in as personalities, 433 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 3: and he was saying Pears is an outgoing guy, he's 434 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 3: talking to everybody on the line, John Gains as well. 435 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 3: They're starting to integrate themselves, not just on the field, 436 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,640 Speaker 3: but off the field. It's been well documented so far 437 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 3: the type of food that Paris Johnson and John Gains 438 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 3: have had to get for the offensive line, the sort 439 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 3: of I don't want to call it the freshman initiation, 440 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 3: but it's the rookie. It's bringing in the rookies rooky duties, 441 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 3: rookie duties exactly. And not only are they doing that 442 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 3: to make the Vets happy, but these Vets are starting 443 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 3: to take them under their wing. When these drills are 444 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 3: going on on the field, you see guys like DJ 445 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 3: Humphreys bringing them over and giving them those pieces of 446 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 3: advices to say, hey, here's what you got to do. 447 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 3: So that we've had years of experience in the league, 448 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 3: we're gonna bestow that onto you. 449 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 1: Two other players that I want to talk about here 450 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,680 Speaker 1: as far as again, depending on how much they play, 451 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 1: because if you're only getting four or five steps, it's 452 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 1: hard to determine where they are in their development. But 453 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,640 Speaker 1: two players that are going to be talked a lot 454 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:03,120 Speaker 1: about this entire year, Zavon Collins, Isaiah Simmons. Brand new 455 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 1: position for Zavon Isaiah deep safety not so much a 456 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 1: brand new position, but new in the sense that that's 457 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,679 Speaker 1: his focus as opposed to bouncing around and being at 458 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 1: different parts, being at different points on the football field. 459 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 1: But as they say, the lights are on, cameras are rolling, 460 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 1: how do you respond, how do you look? Is Avon 461 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:29,120 Speaker 1: Collins coming off the line quick? Is he getting beat? 462 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 1: Is getting pushed back? And then for Isaiah, is he 463 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 1: where he's supposed to be the last line of defense? 464 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 1: Is he making sure that no one is getting behind him? 465 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:41,679 Speaker 1: So pay attention, ber Gang to those two players specifically, 466 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 1: part of those quote unquote veterans, if you will, but 467 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 1: still young and maybe a little bit unknown, especially what 468 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,399 Speaker 1: they're being asked to do this season, Zavion Collins and 469 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,399 Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons, twenty five and number nine. Pay attention to them. 470 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 3: And JG has talked about wanting to have Isaiah play 471 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,439 Speaker 3: that deep center field safety role. He compared it to 472 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,880 Speaker 3: his time playing baseball and compared it to the time 473 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 3: on the track and field of Isaiah Simmons that is, 474 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 3: and he said that that's where he's most comfortable at 475 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 3: and when the coaching staff came in. They asked him 476 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,439 Speaker 3: and he appreciated this. They asked him where do you 477 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 3: want to play? And he said back there? And JG said, Hey, 478 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 3: if that's where you want to play, and if it 479 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 3: works best for you and it works best for the team, 480 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 3: you're going to be back there. And so far throughout 481 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 3: training camp, we've seen him come from that high safety 482 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,640 Speaker 3: blitz and coming right into the box. And somebody asked 483 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 3: him if he's going to mishitting somebody. He said, I 484 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 3: saw a Buddha and j T make a lot of 485 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 3: hits last year. I know that I'm going to be 486 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 3: able to get my fair share of hits. And from 487 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 3: the Xavi and Collins standpoint that you mentioned, I was 488 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 3: standing on the sidelines yesterday with Dave Pash and we 489 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 3: were talking a little bit, and obviously Craig I was 490 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 3: going to bring up my Penn State connection one way 491 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 3: or another, but he compared it to Micah Parsons. Michael 492 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 3: Parsons in college played that middle linebacker, that Mike linebacker spot. 493 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 3: Once he came to the NFL, they moved him to 494 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 3: the edge, to the outside linebacker spot, and we see 495 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 3: the type of impact Michael Parsons is making on the 496 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 3: Dallas Cow. Zavion Collins has a similar opportunity going for 497 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 3: more of that coverage, save me that coverage linebacker spot, 498 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 3: going to the edge and trying to get to the quarterback. 499 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,640 Speaker 3: And we've spoken plenty of times about the work Key 500 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 3: and coach Rodriguez have been putting in and it's starting 501 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 3: to show as we've expanded to the seven on seven, 502 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 3: as we have expanded to the eleven on eleven drills, 503 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 3: we've seen Zavion Collins dropping back and coverage, but we've 504 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 3: also seen him getting to the quarterback. 505 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 1: Don't get lost on that football field. Know what you're 506 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 1: supposed to do, and then go out and do it. 507 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: And that's true of all ninety one players on this roster. 508 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: And if you want to know where certain players are 509 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 1: on that depth chart as opposed to what is released 510 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 1: in the weekly game release, focus on special teams, who's 511 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 1: on coverage units, who's on kickoff, punt, return, field goal, 512 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:54,119 Speaker 1: especially that first unit. Because if you are maybe not 513 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 1: a starter but a rotation player and you're on special teams, okay, 514 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,399 Speaker 1: now you've made yourself valuable. Now you can do more 515 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 1: than just one thing. You're gonna be active on game day. 516 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: You're gonna be one of those fifty three and hopefully 517 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 1: one of those forty eight that dresses out on Sundays. 518 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 1: Special teams can be an uh could be a window 519 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 1: into what this roster potentially could look like at the 520 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 1: end of August. 521 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 3: You want to show your versatility and you want to 522 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 3: show that, as you mentioned, the value component of it. 523 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,120 Speaker 3: If you're good at one thing, that's great, but when 524 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 3: you want to help a team, you got to be 525 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 3: willing to do anything. And I'm putting together a story 526 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 3: that you're at the fans back at home, we're gonna 527 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 3: see on Azycardinals dot com about Davion Davis and Caden 528 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 3: Davis not related at all, but two of the same 529 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 3: last name and they're time in the USFL. But I 530 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,160 Speaker 3: was talking with Dave on in the in the locker 531 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,400 Speaker 3: room and I said to him, like, when it comes 532 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,679 Speaker 3: to this game on Friday, what do you want to do? 533 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 3: What do you have to do to make sure that 534 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 3: you have a spaw on this team? And he said, 535 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 3: obviously it's gonna be on the punt return and kick 536 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 3: return side. He's gonna he's on the depth chart for that, 537 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 3: but he said, if he's got to take out the 538 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 3: trash every morning before getting onto the field in order 539 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,199 Speaker 3: to make this team, he's gonna be willing to do that. 540 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 3: So I'm not gonna compare taking out the trash to 541 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 3: your opportunities on special teams, but it's really showing what 542 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 3: you're able to do and that you're not just one dimension. 543 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 1: Davion Davis a little bit older, a little bit more 544 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 1: experienced than Cayden, and this past offseason was with the 545 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 1: USFL champion Birmingham Stallions. Cayden was with the USFL Michigan Panthers. 546 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,880 Speaker 1: Last season. He was on the Broncos practice squad under 547 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 1: the connection for Friday's game. But two players that I 548 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 1: don't think both with the opportunity to make the team, 549 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,199 Speaker 1: maybe one and then the other winds up on the 550 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,680 Speaker 1: practice squad as more of a development for this team 551 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 1: and then when needed, if needed, during the course of 552 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 1: the season. I've been impressed just because I've seen Number 553 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 1: ten on that football field a lot special teams, punt 554 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 1: return and then during the course of the offense as well, 555 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:55,160 Speaker 1: second third team reps. Mainly third team reps, but if 556 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 1: you can win as Jeff Rodgers talked about on punt return, 557 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 1: us to the football. Catch the football, that is first 558 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 1: and foremost, and then whatever you do after that. As 559 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: far as trying to move the football up the field 560 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 1: to get better field position for the offense, that's almost 561 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: a bonus at this point in special teams. 562 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:13,639 Speaker 3: Hey, you want to give your offense a chance to 563 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,879 Speaker 3: get the best field position possible. But in order to 564 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 3: get them that field position, you got to possess the ball. 565 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 3: And there can't be any careless errors on the punt 566 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 3: return side of things or on the kickoff return side 567 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 3: of things. Although we've seen a lot of Greg Dorsch 568 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 3: back there on the kickoff returns as well, along with 569 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 3: Davion Davis. But one our way or the other, they're 570 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 3: both trying to fight for their spot on the team. 571 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 3: Davion Davis, as you mentioned, the ball seems to find him. 572 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 3: I'm not sure if as Cardinals fans just used to 573 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 3: seeing number ten getting the ball, but seeing this number 574 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 3: ten getting the ball on the field, it's the ball 575 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 3: seems to find him, one way or another. You mentioned 576 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 3: that's a story coming up on Asycardinals dot Com. You 577 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 3: also have the battle at left guard, Elijah Wilkinson Dennis 578 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 3: Day probably the only true competition right now along that 579 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 3: offense line. They've been rotating mainly. However, it has been 580 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 3: Wilkinson who's been consistently that first team guard and then 581 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,719 Speaker 3: sometimes you see Daily sprinkled in. But you've got that 582 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 3: update coming up on Acycardinals dot Com. Yes, both of 583 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 3: them have had thirty six career starts. Both of them 584 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 3: are not a natural left guard. For Elijah Wilkinson, he's 585 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 3: had nine starts on the left guard side of the ball. 586 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 3: He had all nine of them. Came with the Atlanta 587 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 3: Falcons last season, so he's coming in with some experience, 588 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 3: he said. It's a lot of it's focusing on the 589 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 3: little details of the technique, your hand placement. For Dennis Daily, 590 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 3: he comes from the Tennessee Titans where he has that 591 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 3: connection with Monte Austen for but he was on the 592 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 3: tackle side of the ball. He wasn't on the left 593 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 3: guard side of the ball. He has five career starts 594 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 3: out of his thirty six at left guard. He's still 595 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 3: trying to get into the mix. Whatever way it is 596 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 3: he's trying to get into the mix. You know you 597 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 3: have him as a potential backup tackle spot on both 598 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 3: sides of the ball, whether it's for Paris, whether it's 599 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 3: for DJ Humphries. You have that experience and that versatility 600 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 3: from Dennis Daily. But when it comes to the left guard, 601 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,239 Speaker 3: Elijah Wilkinson hasn't beat by a few games and so 602 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 3: far has had majority of the first team reps. 603 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,959 Speaker 1: Last season, Wilkinson started nine games at left guard, missed 604 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:19,239 Speaker 1: five games on ir with a knee injury, and then 605 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 1: set out the last two games with a calf injury. 606 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 1: So when healthy, he has been a starting left guard 607 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 1: for Daily. He was kind of pushed to that tackle 608 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 1: spot last season with the Titans because of injuries around him, 609 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 1: but probably a little bit more experienced to play the 610 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 1: guard position, can play tackle when needed. Wasn't great last 611 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 1: season with the Titans. According to Pro Football Focus, he 612 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 1: allowed a league high twelve sacks and fifty two pressures, 613 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 1: but again, injuries at that spot forced Daily to play tackle. 614 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 1: I think for both of those more likely to see 615 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 1: their see their time in the interior, specifically at one 616 00:30:59,240 --> 00:30:59,959 Speaker 1: of the guard spots. 617 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 3: They're big bodies as well. You want to get those 618 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 3: big bodies on the on the inside of the line. 619 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 3: You know, you have a reliable left tackle in Dj Humphries. 620 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 3: On the blind side, he is as he is as 621 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 3: strong as one could be. On the right side. We've 622 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 3: talked about him already, Paris Johnson Junior. You have that 623 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 3: sort of skill set from him to put a big 624 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 3: body on the interior side of the ball. You have Will, 625 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 3: You have Will Hernandez as right guard, and then on 626 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 3: the left guard that competition as you mentioned. But Elijah 627 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 3: Wilkinson when he was healthy, was doing a pretty solid 628 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 3: job with the Atlanta Falcons. Now he comes over here 629 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 3: to this team, a new offensive system with a first 630 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 3: time play caller and Drew Petsing. He said, it's been 631 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 3: a good transition so far. It's nothing that he's unfamiliar with, 632 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 3: but it's focusing on the little details. The minor details 633 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,959 Speaker 3: as I mentioned, the technique, the hand placement, the footwork 634 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 3: that people back at home might overlook, but for a 635 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 3: guy on the inside of the line are very crucial. 636 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 3: Wilkinson six six three twenty two Daily six six three 637 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 3: twenty six. So yeah, that's a beef upfront and again 638 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 3: all protecting whomever the quarterback is going to be during 639 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 3: the preseason and then in the regular season. Hopefully we 640 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 3: do see Number one on that football field quicker rather 641 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 3: than later, but who knows when Kyler Murray might be available. 642 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 3: He'll be a spectator on the sideline on Friday, just 643 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 3: as you and I will be, though we'll be up 644 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 3: in the press box. Are you ready for your first 645 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 3: preseason NFL game? I don't even know. I really don't. 646 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 3: I'm going into this like, listen, we have the nine rookies. 647 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 3: I'm like the tenth in the draft class. 648 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if i'd give you full rookie status, 649 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 1: maybe we'd just make you an honorary rookie. 650 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 3: I'll take it nine point honorary. Anything is still an honor. 651 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 3: But I'm very excited for it. I'm excited to see 652 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 3: the Red Sea kind of rise up, as they like 653 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 3: to say here, and see the fans out in full force. 654 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 3: And I recognize that is the preseason game, that it's 655 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 3: not going to be what we're going to expect week 656 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 3: two when the Giants come into town. But listen, football 657 00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 3: is football, and I'm excited for it. 658 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 1: It is here. Coming up on Friday seven pm is 659 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 1: the kickoff three thirty pregame coverage begins here on the 660 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals Radio Network preseason opener against the Denver Broncos. 661 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 1: The following week, Cardinals will once again be at home 662 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 1: a Saturday game against the defending Super Bowl champion Kansas 663 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 1: City Chiefs. But more on that later. Let's just first 664 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 1: focus on this preseason opener again. Seven pm is the kickoff, 665 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 1: three thirty pregame coverage begins, and then of course we'll 666 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 1: be back and talk all about it following the coming days, 667 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 1: or I should say in the coming days after Friday, 668 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 1: and on that note, we will put a lid on 669 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 1: this edition of Cardinals Cover two percent to by Honday, 670 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 1: probably partner of the Arizona Cardinals. As always, special thanks 671 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 1: to our executive producer Jema Mahudre our associate producer Tody Fitcher. 672 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 1: For Zach Kershman, I'm Greg Rial Lou. We'll talk to 673 00:33:52,040 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 1: you next time here on Cardinals Cover two