WEBVTT - Fannin' the Breeze with Thor 0:00:00.960 --> 0:00:04.640 Welcome to Fantasy Football Weekly, a production of iHeartRadio. 0:00:06.760 --> 0:00:11.040 Time now for Fantasy Football Weekly from iHeartRadio, your weekly 0:00:11.080 --> 0:00:15.080 source for the nation's best fantasy football advice, speculation, and 0:00:15.120 --> 0:00:17.799 whatever stupid stuff they decide to drop into the show. 0:00:18.280 --> 0:00:20.279 Now here's your host, Paul charge It. 0:00:21.840 --> 0:00:26.160 Hey everybody, it is Fantasy Football Weekly. Our draft prep 0:00:26.239 --> 0:00:29.560 continues with Thorn and Eistrom. We've already hit in previous 0:00:29.600 --> 0:00:34.040 shows running backs and two different shows wide Receivers last week, 0:00:34.440 --> 0:00:36.920 and now tight ends will turn our attention to quarterbacks 0:00:37.080 --> 0:00:38.960 next week. Hey, Thor, welcome back. 0:00:39.680 --> 0:00:40.600 Yoh, how you doing? 0:00:40.760 --> 0:00:44.199 Oh awesome? Got It's just you know, for those of 0:00:44.280 --> 0:00:46.879 us in the industry, this is this is arguably and 0:00:46.960 --> 0:00:49.040 by the industry. How about if we just say the 0:00:49.040 --> 0:00:52.080 sports industry, what a great April's just the best. You 0:00:52.120 --> 0:00:55.960 get the Masters, you get Final for More, you get 0:00:56.000 --> 0:00:59.960 the start of baseball season, you get the foot NFL Draft, 0:01:00.240 --> 0:01:03.360 you get hockey into the regular season in the playoffs, 0:01:03.360 --> 0:01:07.160 you get basketball regular season into playoffs. It's just April. 0:01:07.200 --> 0:01:11.080 To me, it's the single best month for sports fans. 0:01:11.640 --> 0:01:14.399 And of course leading that dance, it's draft season, you know, 0:01:14.440 --> 0:01:16.840 I mean, that's that's number that's one one on the board. 0:01:17.000 --> 0:01:19.800 For me, it is, I mean, it's it is for me, 0:01:20.360 --> 0:01:22.800 and it's uh, I think what I love about it 0:01:22.880 --> 0:01:27.200 as much as anything else is that we spend months, 0:01:27.640 --> 0:01:33.120 like you know, second guessing, evaluating, predicting, and then it 0:01:33.280 --> 0:01:35.520 all just unravels in real time and you get to 0:01:35.560 --> 0:01:37.960 find out you know, what you knew, what you didn't know, 0:01:38.000 --> 0:01:41.200 what you'd expected, what didn't happen, you know, the things 0:01:41.240 --> 0:01:42.920 that went to form. I just I love all the 0:01:43.000 --> 0:01:44.800 drama of the draft thor. 0:01:45.480 --> 0:01:47.960 It's yeah, it's it's incredible, and then you have all 0:01:48.000 --> 0:01:50.800 your theories for speaking to someone who does you know, 0:01:50.880 --> 0:01:54.360 twenty mob drafts every process like it, you know, you 0:01:54.360 --> 0:01:56.720 you think like heading in every time, it's like I 0:01:56.760 --> 0:01:59.080 know how it's gonna go this time, and every then 0:01:59.120 --> 0:02:01.480 it's a one team rose the big curve ball, and 0:02:01.480 --> 0:02:04.680 then it's like what's that Ashton Kutcher but butterfly effect? Right, 0:02:04.680 --> 0:02:07.240 Like it's like one thing changes now you know, someone's 0:02:07.240 --> 0:02:10.160 on the board unexpectedly, and then everything else after that changes. 0:02:10.200 --> 0:02:13.640 So yeah, it's it's a tremendous process and it's it's 0:02:13.680 --> 0:02:16.640 it's just fabulous theater. Once once the Bell opens on 0:02:16.760 --> 0:02:18.200 the last Thursday night of April. 0:02:18.360 --> 0:02:24.160 Yeah. The best butterfly effect movies. I I think you 0:02:24.200 --> 0:02:26.760 could say Back to the Future was a but a 0:02:26.840 --> 0:02:30.920 butterfly effect movie, right, Butleroid. Yeah, yeah, I mean, you know, 0:02:31.360 --> 0:02:35.160 Marty McFly goes back changes, you know, does not does 0:02:35.200 --> 0:02:38.079 not have get romantic with his mom, which I think 0:02:38.160 --> 0:02:41.480 was was pretty important. So you know that was that 0:02:41.560 --> 0:02:43.760 was a big eiet and then you know, introduced rock 0:02:43.800 --> 0:02:45.919 and roll and you know, did a bunch of other things. 0:02:45.919 --> 0:02:47.600 And so I think that would count as a butterfly 0:02:47.680 --> 0:02:50.959 effect movie for sure. 0:02:50.960 --> 0:02:53.639 Would I I have another one I'd like, but yeah, 0:02:53.680 --> 0:02:57.160 please and and and it's another one with multiple films 0:02:57.160 --> 0:03:01.040 in the in the catalog, the final Destination in franchise. 0:03:01.320 --> 0:03:04.399 See I've never seen them because it looks well, I've 0:03:04.400 --> 0:03:06.160 never seen him say, I'll look like it's a bunch 0:03:06.200 --> 0:03:08.840 of people getting murdered. But what is the Tell me 0:03:08.880 --> 0:03:10.320 about tell me about how those work? 0:03:10.840 --> 0:03:12.600 Well, the first one is a classic. You got to 0:03:12.639 --> 0:03:14.360 see the first one. But they're they're gonna go on. 0:03:14.480 --> 0:03:17.120 Uh it's like a school trip, but it's like you know, 0:03:17.160 --> 0:03:19.640 Europe or something. And then but they don't end up 0:03:19.639 --> 0:03:21.800 getting on the plane, and then the plane goes down, 0:03:22.160 --> 0:03:24.520 and then the idea is like, oh the grim Reaper, 0:03:24.680 --> 0:03:26.680 like you know, you got saved. So then it's like 0:03:26.720 --> 0:03:29.960 they they're, they're, they're, they're going one by one kind of. 0:03:30.520 --> 0:03:33.240 Oh got you got you okay, all right? And they 0:03:33.360 --> 0:03:35.640 spend how many final destinations now like. 0:03:35.560 --> 0:03:38.760 Four at this point, I think it's like like six 0:03:38.880 --> 0:03:39.440 or seven. 0:03:39.560 --> 0:03:42.160 Probably because God forbid, you just let something good rest. 0:03:43.440 --> 0:03:47.520 A foreign movie that is sort of a classic in 0:03:47.560 --> 0:03:51.440 this genre is called Run, Lola Run. It's a German movie. 0:03:51.680 --> 0:03:55.120 It came out like two thousand maybe, and it's fantastic, 0:03:55.200 --> 0:03:58.560 and it's a it's a woman who has to deliver 0:03:59.480 --> 0:04:04.160 some money in twenty real time minutes, and they show 0:04:04.720 --> 0:04:09.040 how just a slight change at the very beginning of 0:04:09.080 --> 0:04:12.160 her effort to get this this to get this money 0:04:12.200 --> 0:04:14.200 she's got, she she's not delivered. She's got to come 0:04:14.240 --> 0:04:16.200 up with one hundred thousand She's got to come up 0:04:16.200 --> 0:04:20.680 with one hundred thousand whatever Deutsche marks in twenty minutes. 0:04:21.200 --> 0:04:25.680 And it tells the story three consecutive times if memory serves, 0:04:26.000 --> 0:04:28.240 where you watch the twenty minutes of her in real 0:04:28.240 --> 0:04:30.440 time trying to come up with one hundred thousand dollars 0:04:30.480 --> 0:04:32.960 like thor I need you to come up with one 0:04:33.000 --> 0:04:35.400 hundred thousand dollars right now. Now you've probably got that 0:04:35.440 --> 0:04:38.479 in cash in your in your in your house right now. 0:04:38.520 --> 0:04:41.760 But yeah, yeah, but Lola did not a really good 0:04:41.800 --> 0:04:44.599 foreign movie for people that do not mind, you know either, 0:04:45.040 --> 0:04:47.400 I don't know if it's dubbed to hope not, I 0:04:47.400 --> 0:04:48.240 don't mind reading mine. 0:04:48.240 --> 0:04:50.160 We're going to the We're going to the blackjack table. 0:04:50.200 --> 0:04:51.799 If I'm ever in that scenario. 0:04:51.360 --> 0:04:53.160 I like that? Are you? Is that what you if 0:04:53.160 --> 0:04:55.080 you if you suddenly had one hundred grandropped on you, 0:04:55.080 --> 0:04:56.800 would you try to turn it into two hundred grand 0:04:56.839 --> 0:04:57.799 at the blackjack table? 0:04:58.240 --> 0:04:58.440 Well? 0:04:58.520 --> 0:05:00.760 If if like if like I need it, if it 0:05:00.800 --> 0:05:02.400 was a scenario like you got to come up with 0:05:03.000 --> 0:05:06.119 this amount of time, yeah, like it's it's like, well 0:05:06.279 --> 0:05:08.560 a short time. Let's see how many times we can 0:05:08.600 --> 0:05:09.240 double this up? 0:05:09.760 --> 0:05:11.680 Roulette. I mean you get you know what you get 0:05:11.720 --> 0:05:13.760 through done? Right, So you're like, all right, I'll just 0:05:13.760 --> 0:05:15.640 step I hope to god I'll put on sixteen and 0:05:15.720 --> 0:05:16.440 hope it works out. 0:05:16.560 --> 0:05:16.839 Yeah. 0:05:17.000 --> 0:05:19.719 Does Interstellar count as a butterfly effect movie? 0:05:20.480 --> 0:05:20.960 Yeah? It does. 0:05:21.000 --> 0:05:23.520 Remember that part where he's like he's banging on the 0:05:23.520 --> 0:05:25.760 thing and that, but then the guy can't hear from 0:05:25.839 --> 0:05:28.120 the past or whatever, like I it is because it's 0:05:28.160 --> 0:05:31.440 about decisions, and decisions change the future and you can't 0:05:31.480 --> 0:05:32.200 go back. 0:05:32.000 --> 0:05:32.800 And this sort of a thing. 0:05:32.920 --> 0:05:35.559 Interstellar is great, and the draft is very The draft 0:05:35.600 --> 0:05:38.080 is very much like that, right, I mean, like you 0:05:38.240 --> 0:05:40.800 look back and oh man, why do we do that? 0:05:40.839 --> 0:05:41.320 Why do we do? 0:05:41.400 --> 0:05:43.480 You just want to you know, shake the GM, like, bro, 0:05:43.640 --> 0:05:46.120 don't do that, right, You're five years in the future. 0:05:46.160 --> 0:05:47.440 Why did you know? Don't do that? 0:05:47.560 --> 0:05:51.200 And you know here, okay, last year's draft, you mentioned 0:05:51.279 --> 0:05:55.520 how all it takes is one one team changes the 0:05:55.560 --> 0:05:58.040 outcome of the whole draft, right, and that ends up 0:05:58.080 --> 0:06:00.240 that ends up happening when one team does something kind 0:06:00.279 --> 0:06:03.840 of nobody expects. Last year, that was Michael Pennix at eight, 0:06:04.560 --> 0:06:07.920 and everybody's like, what you just signed Kirk Cousins of 0:06:08.000 --> 0:06:11.600 you know, one hundred and fifty million dollars. It ended 0:06:11.680 --> 0:06:13.680 up being absolutely the right move for them, as it 0:06:13.680 --> 0:06:16.600 turned out, but that changed. You know, nobody's mock was 0:06:16.640 --> 0:06:18.920 intact after pick number eight last year. 0:06:19.839 --> 0:06:22.000 Yeah A percent, Yeah, I mean then you had the 0:06:22.120 --> 0:06:25.520 rush up for the other quarterbacks. And then the other 0:06:25.600 --> 0:06:28.360 thing is that's where we were expecting the first defender 0:06:28.440 --> 0:06:29.839 to come off the board. But yeah, you have the 0:06:29.880 --> 0:06:32.680 one change in that one decision, all of a sudden 0:06:32.680 --> 0:06:34.960 you have the arms race to grab the rest of 0:06:34.960 --> 0:06:37.240 that position. Then of course our receivers and tackles were 0:06:37.279 --> 0:06:39.520 involved with that as well, And the first defender doesn't 0:06:39.520 --> 0:06:40.960 go out the board until the Colts came on the 0:06:40.960 --> 0:06:44.360 clock was a sixteen, So like we ended up breaking 0:06:44.400 --> 0:06:47.120 the record for consecutive offensive players out the board to 0:06:47.160 --> 0:06:49.880 begin a class, But that was because of terrible. 0:06:49.640 --> 0:06:52.080 Terry Fontina and his machinations there. 0:06:52.200 --> 0:06:54.680 Well lookie, but he got it right. I mean, you know, 0:06:54.760 --> 0:06:58.560 they they had seen enough pre draft from Kirk that 0:06:58.600 --> 0:06:59.520 they knew to be worried. 0:07:00.200 --> 0:07:02.920 And yeah, probably shouldn't have given him that money. 0:07:03.120 --> 0:07:05.080 No, they should not have given him that money, as 0:07:05.120 --> 0:07:07.480 it turned out, and and Penix ended up being the 0:07:07.520 --> 0:07:09.400 right and be in the right pick for them as 0:07:09.440 --> 0:07:13.800 a as a although maybe it turns out thor Jj 0:07:13.880 --> 0:07:16.000 McCarthy should have been the pick for Atlanta at eight. 0:07:17.520 --> 0:07:19.840 I'm so so happy that Terry Fino. 0:07:19.640 --> 0:07:24.560 Made all right, let's dive into tight ends rookie titands. 0:07:24.760 --> 0:07:27.360 I think we've managed to go seven minutes into this podcast, 0:07:27.400 --> 0:07:31.240 and that's that is okay. And by the way, feel 0:07:31.240 --> 0:07:33.640 free to tweet us. You've got other great butterfly effect 0:07:33.680 --> 0:07:35.920 movies that we're not thinking of. Well, we'd gladly take 0:07:35.920 --> 0:07:39.040 that at this time of year. At thorn Eystrom, at 0:07:39.040 --> 0:07:43.920 thor K H. Rock Shuk and at Paul Chargion. Let's 0:07:43.920 --> 0:07:46.560 dive into rookie tight ends. My man, it's you know, 0:07:46.640 --> 0:07:48.640 we can't We're not going to get another brock Bauers. 0:07:48.760 --> 0:07:52.520 I don't think. But I am seeing Tyler Warden Warren 0:07:52.720 --> 0:07:56.680 mocked universally, you know, pretty early into the first round. 0:07:57.240 --> 0:08:00.560 Talk to me just about the overall class for the 0:08:00.600 --> 0:08:01.400 tight end position. 0:08:02.720 --> 0:08:07.040 It's it's very good, uh, Tyler Warren. It's it's one 0:08:07.080 --> 0:08:09.280 of those few tight ends that have come out the 0:08:09.360 --> 0:08:11.680 last twenty years. You can make a legitimate case that 0:08:11.680 --> 0:08:13.080 that guy should be a top ten pick. 0:08:13.240 --> 0:08:16.000 Yeah, you could, Like you don't need to have to 0:08:16.160 --> 0:08:17.720 argue that one hard. Uh. 0:08:17.800 --> 0:08:22.720 And then Colson Lovelin is a surefire first round cross 0:08:22.720 --> 0:08:25.360 and they're they're different kinds of guys. Colston is is 0:08:25.360 --> 0:08:29.040 a big slot and then Warren's just a chess piece. Fella, 0:08:29.600 --> 0:08:32.600 Warren is you you said we don't have a brock bars, 0:08:32.720 --> 0:08:34.560 you know, like in this guy, I almost said, not 0:08:34.640 --> 0:08:36.839 so fast, my friend, because it Tyler Warren. 0:08:36.880 --> 0:08:39.120 He it's it's sort of a similar skill set, but 0:08:39.160 --> 0:08:40.160 he's bigger. 0:08:40.440 --> 0:08:42.480 He's two and a half inches taller than Bowers and 0:08:43.040 --> 0:08:46.360 like twenty five pounds heavier. So like it's it's interesting there. 0:08:46.360 --> 0:08:48.600 But yeah, even beyond that, you get into day two, 0:08:48.920 --> 0:08:53.320 there's I would say four other super duper interesting names 0:08:53.320 --> 0:08:54.400 that I know are going to go. 0:08:54.360 --> 0:08:54.960 On day two. 0:08:55.040 --> 0:08:57.320 So like that's you know that you would mention that 0:08:57.360 --> 0:08:59.920 five to six number, that that's where we fall in there. 0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:02.280 And there's even a couple guys later in that on 0:09:02.360 --> 0:09:04.600 day three that I'm like, I like, if I had 0:09:04.640 --> 0:09:07.200 to take the dart throw like that guy super intrigues me. 0:09:08.480 --> 0:09:10.160 Let's talk about teams that could take a tight end 0:09:10.200 --> 0:09:12.240 in day one or two and see you see if 0:09:12.240 --> 0:09:15.439 you agree with me on this, Jets the best tight 0:09:15.559 --> 0:09:20.000 end right now on Rosters Stone Smart, Jets need a 0:09:20.000 --> 0:09:22.840 tight end. Jets need a tight end. Texans Dalton Schultz 0:09:23.480 --> 0:09:26.040 just you know, he's not bad, but he also hasn't 0:09:26.080 --> 0:09:28.760 been a game changer at the position. And you know, 0:09:28.800 --> 0:09:32.360 the Texans with the with the Tank Dell injury, with 0:09:32.400 --> 0:09:35.600 Stefan Diggs gone, you know, I can see where they 0:09:35.760 --> 0:09:39.559 they could just use a really talented receiving tight end. 0:09:39.600 --> 0:09:40.160 You with me on. 0:09:40.160 --> 0:09:45.079 Titands, they need another past another starting pass cutcher. Yeah, 0:09:45.400 --> 0:09:48.920 like like you need so like whether that is in 0:09:48.960 --> 0:09:50.959 the vein of a big slot tight end or whether 0:09:51.040 --> 0:09:53.680 that is just a receiver. But yes, you must add 0:09:53.679 --> 0:09:55.800 one more starting pass cutcher. I think at least to 0:09:55.800 --> 0:09:56.960 feel good if you're the Texans. 0:09:57.200 --> 0:09:59.840 The Colts, even I have given up on john Woods. 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:03.000 It's killed me to do it. But even I at 0:10:03.000 --> 0:10:05.000 this point, you know, like three years after banging the 0:10:05.040 --> 0:10:07.760 drum for Johnny Wood since his rookie right, obviously, just 0:10:07.800 --> 0:10:11.960 can't count on him. They are arguably the league's weakest 0:10:12.520 --> 0:10:16.160 overall team at the position. How about the Titans. Chika 0:10:16.240 --> 0:10:20.360 Konku just has not developed into a reliable target for 0:10:20.440 --> 0:10:24.000 the Titans, and I could see them potentially of trying 0:10:24.000 --> 0:10:26.520 to fill that void, not obviously with the first pick 0:10:26.520 --> 0:10:27.960 of the draft, but later on in the. 0:10:28.000 --> 0:10:30.080 Draft for sure. 0:10:30.280 --> 0:10:32.880 Yeah, I would agree with those and as far as 0:10:32.880 --> 0:10:35.840 the Colts go, the Colts they came out right to 0:10:35.880 --> 0:10:38.520 being the off season. They're like, our biggest off season 0:10:38.559 --> 0:10:41.600 goal is to improve the tight end position, and they 0:10:41.600 --> 0:10:43.040 didn't do it in free agency. 0:10:43.120 --> 0:10:43.480 Folks. 0:10:43.520 --> 0:10:45.320 They are telling you they will take one in the 0:10:45.360 --> 0:10:48.199 first round if one of two guys gets there. If 0:10:48.240 --> 0:10:50.079 Tyler Warren gets to the Colts pick, you will see 0:10:50.120 --> 0:10:54.400 the fastest card seen. And if Tyler Warren is not 0:10:54.520 --> 0:10:56.640 there but coltson Loveland is, I think you'll see the 0:10:57.160 --> 0:10:59.840 fastest card turn in ever, cause it's like one of Now, 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:01.640 if both those guys are out the board, now, the 0:11:01.640 --> 0:11:04.120 Colts are gonna have to figure out Yeah, and then 0:11:04.160 --> 0:11:05.920 you're gonna be doing a day two. One of these 0:11:06.040 --> 0:11:08.120 interesting guys will be talking about in a second. But yeah, 0:11:08.240 --> 0:11:11.000 Colts desperately need one, and they know what's gonna help 0:11:11.080 --> 0:11:14.120 rich than the most. It's getting those easy completions and 0:11:14.400 --> 0:11:16.400 one of them two guys is going to provide that. 0:11:16.840 --> 0:11:18.840 I'm gonna give you three teams that could do some 0:11:18.960 --> 0:11:23.679 succession planning at tight end, the Chiefs with Travis Kelcey, 0:11:24.120 --> 0:11:27.000 the Eagles with Dallas Goddard, and the Commanders with zach 0:11:27.120 --> 0:11:29.880 Ertz all all all teams that could get like one 0:11:29.880 --> 0:11:32.360 more good year out of their tight ends, but then 0:11:32.480 --> 0:11:36.280 beginning next year are likely looking to get to get 0:11:36.320 --> 0:11:39.079 talent at the tight end position, young talent at the positions. 0:11:39.360 --> 0:11:41.920 So Chiefs, Eagles commanders with me on those. 0:11:42.520 --> 0:11:44.640 I am and can I had a couple? 0:11:44.800 --> 0:11:45.360 No? Please? 0:11:45.520 --> 0:11:48.080 Heck yeah, go the Chargers. 0:11:48.720 --> 0:11:50.520 Tyler's not the answer. 0:11:50.960 --> 0:11:55.240 Yeah, And and Harbaugh obviously loves his twelve personnel offense, 0:11:55.240 --> 0:11:56.680 and he loves throwing to the tight end. 0:11:56.760 --> 0:11:59.080 And if Colton Lovelin gets to the charters. 0:11:58.720 --> 0:12:03.319 Pick don Yeah, we're good. Have a quick card turn 0:12:03.440 --> 0:12:05.880 in there. And then the other one that I was thinking, Oh, 0:12:06.120 --> 0:12:09.720 the Jaguars. I think that the Jaguars are you know, 0:12:09.760 --> 0:12:13.120 obviously they caught Evan Ingram, you know, and we talked 0:12:13.120 --> 0:12:15.800 about the Brenton Stranger on the previous one. But if 0:12:15.840 --> 0:12:18.000 they can get a dude that can advance the ball 0:12:18.040 --> 0:12:20.640 for them and make completions easy, I think they'll be 0:12:20.760 --> 0:12:21.760 very interested in that. 0:12:21.920 --> 0:12:24.880 I'm going to give you two more. The Bears. Cole Comette, 0:12:24.920 --> 0:12:27.239 that fifty million dollar contract looks. 0:12:27.000 --> 0:12:28.319 What are you doing right? Yeah? 0:12:28.320 --> 0:12:30.360 I mean yeah, they reached on him. In the draft 0:12:30.400 --> 0:12:32.920 and then they did. It's like col Comette's not it. 0:12:32.920 --> 0:12:34.360 I could have told you coming out of college. 0:12:34.360 --> 0:12:34.600 Come on. 0:12:34.760 --> 0:12:37.240 Yeah. And then Saints. You know, Taysom Hill's thirty four 0:12:37.320 --> 0:12:40.240 years old. Juwan Johnson and Foster Moreau are rotational guys. 0:12:40.520 --> 0:12:42.480 I think the Saints could be in play here for 0:12:42.600 --> 0:12:42.839 a time. 0:12:43.000 --> 0:12:43.280 Saints. 0:12:43.720 --> 0:12:46.680 Yeah, Saints are great, and I think sometimes the reason 0:12:46.679 --> 0:12:48.800 people don't give them one in the mocks it's like, oh, 0:12:48.840 --> 0:12:51.000 they have so many holes and so you know you 0:12:51.080 --> 0:12:53.000 have to take one of the more important positions. But 0:12:53.120 --> 0:12:55.720 having all those holes it opens the board up for you. 0:12:55.840 --> 0:12:57.880 It's the same as having an awesome roster as having 0:12:57.880 --> 0:13:00.840 the depleted roster, because it opens you up for BPA 0:13:01.320 --> 0:13:03.880 and the new coach they have there, the offensive minded 0:13:04.000 --> 0:13:06.600 head coach. He's going to be looking to get a 0:13:06.640 --> 0:13:09.480 guy who can manufacture offense for him in year one 0:13:09.520 --> 0:13:11.719 because they don't just don't have a lot of talent there. 0:13:11.760 --> 0:13:14.000 So if you can get the free yardage, I think 0:13:14.040 --> 0:13:16.319 that's something that they're going to be very interested in. 0:13:16.440 --> 0:13:20.280 So Tyler Warren gets to nine, I think you might 0:13:20.280 --> 0:13:22.439 see the Saints heavily sniffing. 0:13:22.160 --> 0:13:22.960 Around Tyler Warren. 0:13:22.960 --> 0:13:25.040 All right, all right, well let's go to Tyler Warren. 0:13:25.280 --> 0:13:27.559 He's your number one, and he's most people's number one 0:13:27.559 --> 0:13:30.560 overall tight end. Here, your comp is Jeremy Shockey, which 0:13:30.600 --> 0:13:33.080 I loved. I love this camp because I'm old enough 0:13:33.080 --> 0:13:36.000 to remember two thousand and two when Jeremy Shockey was 0:13:36.040 --> 0:13:40.800 a rookie and got targeted one hundred and twenty eight 0:13:40.960 --> 0:13:45.720 times as a rookie. Back then, I don't know that was. 0:13:45.800 --> 0:13:48.960 You know, he had almost fine. I've got the numbers 0:13:49.000 --> 0:13:51.640 in front of me, nine hundred yards receiving as a 0:13:51.880 --> 0:13:55.040 rookie tight end. Back then he finished second in Offensive 0:13:55.080 --> 0:13:57.840 Rookie of the Year voting Jeremy Shockey back then. Love 0:13:57.920 --> 0:14:02.800 Tyler Warden Warren because in heart, dude is nasty and violent, 0:14:03.120 --> 0:14:06.199 and I you don't always get that out of today's 0:14:06.360 --> 0:14:10.680 fluid past catching tight ends. This kid is special, Tyler Warren, 0:14:10.679 --> 0:14:11.680 I'll let you go from here. 0:14:12.400 --> 0:14:13.760 Yeah, he sure is. 0:14:13.880 --> 0:14:16.240 And it's it's not really instructive to think of him 0:14:16.280 --> 0:14:18.600 as a tight end. He's just, uh, you know, whether 0:14:18.600 --> 0:14:21.360 you want to say the offensive weapon, whether you want 0:14:21.360 --> 0:14:24.000 to see chess piece, whether you just the guy that 0:14:24.120 --> 0:14:26.160 advanced at the ball, but he is incredible at it, 0:14:26.200 --> 0:14:29.800 and you have those are the similarities with brought Fowers 0:14:29.800 --> 0:14:32.280 where you saw the specialized usage where Georgia would get 0:14:32.360 --> 0:14:34.440 him into the backfield, they would hand him the ball, 0:14:34.600 --> 0:14:36.600 they would do the ender rounds, they would do all 0:14:36.640 --> 0:14:39.880 the different manufactured souff. That's what Penn State started doing 0:14:39.920 --> 0:14:42.720 with Tyler Warren and he went absolutely berserk. But to 0:14:42.760 --> 0:14:45.760 your point, with the ball in his heads, that kid 0:14:45.840 --> 0:14:50.880 runs hard and and there it's not a coincidence. His 0:14:51.240 --> 0:14:53.320 hero growing up and he still is here if you 0:14:53.360 --> 0:14:56.760 ask him John Riggins. Yeah, Tyler Warren and his father 0:14:57.200 --> 0:15:00.760 loved John Riggins. Why did Tyler Horn were the number 0:15:00.840 --> 0:15:04.240 forty four at Penn State? Because he remains obsessed with John. 0:15:04.800 --> 0:15:07.760 He runs like John Riggins if John Riggins was six 0:15:07.840 --> 0:15:08.440 foot six, and. 0:15:11.200 --> 0:15:11.920 You just think of that. 0:15:12.240 --> 0:15:15.240 This kid is not afraid of contact. He will seek 0:15:15.280 --> 0:15:17.200 it out and he will put you on your back. 0:15:17.760 --> 0:15:19.520 There is not a ton of nuance when he has 0:15:19.560 --> 0:15:22.240 the ball. It is it's like in was it an 0:15:22.240 --> 0:15:25.040 inception where they had that huge vehicle and it was 0:15:25.080 --> 0:15:29.200 going through the streets and hitting you know, the cart. 0:15:28.240 --> 0:15:29.840 And everybody's just flying aside. 0:15:29.920 --> 0:15:32.560 Yes, yes, that is Tyler Warren with the ball in 0:15:32.600 --> 0:15:35.200 his hands, and they you know, again you just manufactured 0:15:35.200 --> 0:15:37.120 the touches for him. So whether it's the slot, you 0:15:37.160 --> 0:15:39.680 put him in the boundary, shift him into the backfield, 0:15:39.920 --> 0:15:42.000 and then all the cool concepts you can do with him. 0:15:42.480 --> 0:15:45.360 One of the Penn State like to take three yards 0:15:45.400 --> 0:15:47.960 by they could get the defense off by by having 0:15:47.960 --> 0:15:51.200 Tyler Warren, do you know routes intermediate or deep, And 0:15:51.240 --> 0:15:54.120 then they would do one where he's in line and 0:15:54.160 --> 0:15:56.120 they would start out the concept. He would delay for 0:15:56.200 --> 0:15:58.880 one second, like half of a beat, and then he 0:15:59.040 --> 0:16:01.440 just goes down the way and like right behind the 0:16:01.480 --> 0:16:05.000 center quarterback just flick them the ball and now it's 0:16:05.040 --> 0:16:07.760 like you're you're running, but you have a little bit 0:16:07.760 --> 0:16:09.600 of a push from the offensive line in front of 0:16:09.640 --> 0:16:12.080 you and you're just running between the tackles at that point. 0:16:12.120 --> 0:16:15.080 But you manufacture and touches like that, and certainly the 0:16:15.160 --> 0:16:15.800 end around things. 0:16:16.160 --> 0:16:18.040 The Wildcat quarterback he. 0:16:18.080 --> 0:16:20.000 Did a ton of that stuff and he was incredible 0:16:20.080 --> 0:16:23.160 last season. Eight point four yards per carry as a runner. 0:16:23.280 --> 0:16:27.080 That's five of them, five point zero came after contact. 0:16:27.520 --> 0:16:30.440 This guy ever three point four yards before a contact, 0:16:30.560 --> 0:16:31.960 five after so he don't care. 0:16:32.240 --> 0:16:35.040 He broke eleven tackles on twenty five rushing attempts, so 0:16:35.440 --> 0:16:37.720 he's going to throw you off of them. And then 0:16:37.760 --> 0:16:40.880 you know, as the receiver, he also wins downfield. The 0:16:40.960 --> 0:16:44.440 one quirk with his dimensions he has strangely short arms 0:16:44.480 --> 0:16:46.760 for being as big eas as he is. But I'll 0:16:46.760 --> 0:16:48.640 tell you this, there was one area of his game 0:16:48.640 --> 0:16:51.120 where it absolutely manifest and I'll talk about that in 0:16:51.120 --> 0:16:53.560 a second. Down the field. I never saw it. I 0:16:53.600 --> 0:16:56.520 never saw as a receiver, the quote unquote lack of 0:16:57.280 --> 0:17:01.080 length coming to play because he's so good with his body, right, like, 0:17:01.280 --> 0:17:03.760 he has that enormous frame, but he will pinion to 0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:06.160 his bag. It's really hard to get around him, right. 0:17:06.200 --> 0:17:08.600 It's like like at the catch point for a safety. 0:17:08.640 --> 0:17:11.119 It's like trying to get around a cruise ship, right like, 0:17:11.160 --> 0:17:13.320 you're not you're not You're not getting around it, and 0:17:13.359 --> 0:17:15.040 you're not getting higher in the air than him. So 0:17:15.119 --> 0:17:17.040 it doesn't matter that his you know, his arms are 0:17:17.040 --> 0:17:18.640 a little bit short than that you think with that, 0:17:18.840 --> 0:17:22.120 where it matters is where fantasy owners don't care. It's 0:17:22.200 --> 0:17:24.360 it's a lack of reach as a blocker, and it's 0:17:24.359 --> 0:17:28.119 one of the reasons he gives effort. He again, he 0:17:28.200 --> 0:17:31.000 is happy to bang right like I like contact stuff 0:17:31.040 --> 0:17:32.440 like that, and he will come after. 0:17:32.280 --> 0:17:33.040 You as a blocker. 0:17:33.400 --> 0:17:35.800 But he lacks the reach and so when he's in 0:17:35.880 --> 0:17:39.040 line that he always has the shortest arms, which means 0:17:39.080 --> 0:17:41.360 the other guy gets to dictate the dance every time 0:17:41.400 --> 0:17:43.919 he gets a the Tyler Warren. The other dude is 0:17:43.920 --> 0:17:46.640 always getting his hands on Tyler Warren first and then 0:17:46.480 --> 0:17:49.359 the technique after that. Like he's not great with the 0:17:49.359 --> 0:17:50.879 way he uses his hands, and so a lot of 0:17:50.880 --> 0:17:53.080 times he sees his chest and and he can get 0:17:53.080 --> 0:17:53.639 shucked aside. 0:17:53.680 --> 0:17:55.439 But that's the one sort of nippick you can do 0:17:55.480 --> 0:17:55.920 with his game. 0:17:55.960 --> 0:17:58.840 As far as what fantasy owners actually care about, he 0:17:59.080 --> 0:18:01.840 is incredible that you put him up with any of 0:18:01.920 --> 0:18:04.159 these guys that come out in last ten years. You 0:18:04.160 --> 0:18:06.119 could think of him sort of as a hybrid of 0:18:06.200 --> 0:18:09.560 Jeremy Shockey and Brock Bowers. But it's Shocky down the field, 0:18:09.560 --> 0:18:12.280 intermediate and down the field. It looks just like Shocky, 0:18:12.480 --> 0:18:17.000 but the manufacturer touched off the running stuff, the wildcat stuff, 0:18:17.280 --> 0:18:18.960 you know, all that sort of different stuff. 0:18:19.119 --> 0:18:22.000 That's what evolts for you. Brock Bowers and last thing charged. 0:18:23.000 --> 0:18:27.600 Tyler Warren came into college as a dual threat quarterback, 0:18:28.960 --> 0:18:33.120 an enormous left handed dual threat quarterback, you know, out 0:18:33.160 --> 0:18:36.040 of Virginia. Initially he was going to go to Virginia Tech, 0:18:36.119 --> 0:18:39.360 and then James Franklin happened to watch his tape and 0:18:39.400 --> 0:18:42.200 this is it's interesting, sliding doors. We were talking about 0:18:42.240 --> 0:18:45.320 sliding doors. They had a quarterback on the roster at 0:18:45.359 --> 0:18:47.399 Penn State at the time that they used in this 0:18:47.520 --> 0:18:50.120 very specific way of the short yardage running. They would 0:18:50.160 --> 0:18:51.879 have this kid come in off the bench for their 0:18:51.920 --> 0:18:54.879 starter at the time, Sean Clifford. That quarterback's name was 0:18:54.880 --> 0:18:59.400 Will Levis, and James Franklin knew Sean Clifford's coming back 0:18:59.480 --> 0:19:02.679 next year, Will Levis. The time is probably short with 0:19:02.720 --> 0:19:04.560 Will Levis, he probably going to transfer out of here 0:19:04.600 --> 0:19:07.160 because we're going to start this other So James Franklin, 0:19:07.200 --> 0:19:09.200 he was looking around for the big du a threat 0:19:09.280 --> 0:19:11.440 quarterback where he could do the you know, the short 0:19:11.480 --> 0:19:14.160 yardage stuff that the Blake Bell back in the day 0:19:14.160 --> 0:19:16.199 at Oklahoma, the belldoz you know, stuff like that. So 0:19:16.240 --> 0:19:19.359 that's why they initially looked at Warren. But he looked 0:19:19.359 --> 0:19:21.359 at his movement. Franklin did, and he was like, this 0:19:21.440 --> 0:19:24.679 kid's a really good athlete. They requested his basketball tape 0:19:25.000 --> 0:19:27.520 and when Franklin saw that, He's like offered the skull. 0:19:28.040 --> 0:19:30.280 Get this kid in here. Yeah, this kid is an 0:19:30.320 --> 0:19:32.439 amazing athlete. And I think he was on campus for 0:19:32.480 --> 0:19:34.800 one day before the coaches said Tyler, he ain't a 0:19:34.880 --> 0:19:35.800 quarterback anymore. 0:19:35.840 --> 0:19:38.600 My man, we are about to build you it to 0:19:38.680 --> 0:19:40.800 a tight end. And boy did that. I mean it 0:19:40.840 --> 0:19:41.640 took a couple of years. 0:19:41.640 --> 0:19:43.280 And so people, you know, there's a lot of people 0:19:43.280 --> 0:19:46.080 out there, the analytics community, they do the breakout age 0:19:46.400 --> 0:19:49.399 and there are circumstances where that points you at the truth. 0:19:49.600 --> 0:19:52.200 There's also circumstances where it points you away from the truth. 0:19:52.240 --> 0:19:54.440 And keep in mind with Tyler Warren, tight end is 0:19:54.480 --> 0:19:58.160 a slow developing position. Anyway, he went to college having 0:19:58.280 --> 0:20:00.479 never played it before. So I just want to give 0:20:00.520 --> 0:20:02.480 that contextual benefit of the debt or. 0:20:02.440 --> 0:20:04.560 Having caught passes, right, I mean, he was a dual 0:20:04.560 --> 0:20:07.120 threat quarterback, so he wasn't even catching that and let 0:20:07.119 --> 0:20:10.440 alone trying to block for all the comps from Tyler Warren, 0:20:10.480 --> 0:20:13.040 and we spent a ton of time on, but you know, 0:20:13.119 --> 0:20:15.159 you didn't mention Gronk, and I just feel like the 0:20:15.200 --> 0:20:17.359 part of it that reminds me of Gronk is just 0:20:17.440 --> 0:20:21.120 the willingness, the physical play and the willingness to attack tacklers, 0:20:21.480 --> 0:20:23.840 which you just don't see from all that many tight ends, 0:20:23.880 --> 0:20:26.320 even though it's a physical position, weren't. I think's on 0:20:26.359 --> 0:20:29.480 a different level from that. And so I, you know, 0:20:29.560 --> 0:20:32.800 I hesitate to compare anybody to Gronk because he's just 0:20:32.840 --> 0:20:36.080 so special, but he's, you know, like Gronk. You know, 0:20:36.240 --> 0:20:39.679 Gronk was too big for safeties to cover him, and 0:20:39.800 --> 0:20:42.320 he was too shifty and fast for linebackers to cover him. 0:20:42.320 --> 0:20:44.240 And I feel like that's Tyler Warren's got some of 0:20:44.280 --> 0:20:44.720 that in him. 0:20:45.200 --> 0:20:47.680 It's it's a great car as far as the physical 0:20:47.760 --> 0:20:50.440 dimensions and as far as the athletic profile in those 0:20:50.480 --> 0:20:53.480 physical dimensions, and then the way they look both catching 0:20:53.520 --> 0:20:56.680 them all down the field and then as the berserker runners, 0:20:57.240 --> 0:21:00.159 those things all scream Gronk and I actually, I I 0:21:00.200 --> 0:21:01.960 did flirt with that as a comp The reason I 0:21:02.000 --> 0:21:04.760 couldn't do that is Gronk's one of the better blocking 0:21:04.760 --> 0:21:06.880 tight ends from the inline position that you'll ever see, 0:21:06.880 --> 0:21:09.240 and it's what made them just next next level because 0:21:09.240 --> 0:21:11.080 you had that stuff with the ball and then you 0:21:11.119 --> 0:21:13.400 had the blocking as well. Warren, that's where he fell 0:21:13.400 --> 0:21:15.040 a little bit short. So that's why I ended up 0:21:15.080 --> 0:21:17.560 getting off that comp. But yeah, just as far as 0:21:17.640 --> 0:21:20.080 with the ball, in those facets in the frame and 0:21:20.280 --> 0:21:23.480 the athleticism, absolutely a lot of stuff of Bolk's Gronk. 0:21:24.080 --> 0:21:26.560 Let's go to your number two tight end. We've already 0:21:26.640 --> 0:21:30.840 mentioned Jim Harbaugh Watts his tight end at Michigan. Colston 0:21:30.920 --> 0:21:33.440 Loveland is your number two overall. You've got as comp 0:21:33.480 --> 0:21:35.359 as Mark Anders and you've got him going in the 0:21:35.400 --> 0:21:36.119 first round. 0:21:36.680 --> 0:21:38.560 Yeah, yeah, Colson Love. 0:21:38.720 --> 0:21:40.720 It's a very different kind of a tight end than 0:21:40.800 --> 0:21:44.320 Tyler Warren. Colson Loveland is your your big slot in 0:21:44.359 --> 0:21:47.040 a twelve personnel offense. So this in offense, you already 0:21:47.080 --> 0:21:50.280 have your peer blocking in line tight end and then 0:21:50.520 --> 0:21:52.600 Colton Loveland is going to take over your slot. But 0:21:52.640 --> 0:21:55.160 you can also line them up on the boundary. Michigan 0:21:55.200 --> 0:21:57.919 did that I think twenty percent of his snaps, and 0:21:58.000 --> 0:21:59.880 you can put him in line just a little bit. 0:22:00.080 --> 0:22:02.800 But if you are counting on him to tango with 0:22:02.840 --> 0:22:05.000 war daddy defensive ends in the NFL. He is going 0:22:05.040 --> 0:22:07.440 to get ragged gulp by that. It's just not his game. 0:22:07.840 --> 0:22:10.679 He's a big skyscraper and there is some finesse. He 0:22:10.680 --> 0:22:12.280 gives effort as a blocker, and by the way, he's 0:22:12.280 --> 0:22:15.320 a very good space blocker. He just overwhelms you with 0:22:15.359 --> 0:22:18.560 his length and his effort. But you know, it's sort 0:22:18.560 --> 0:22:20.879 of one caveat with that. But as far as the 0:22:21.320 --> 0:22:23.760 sort of move tight end the big slot in that 0:22:23.800 --> 0:22:27.280 twelve personnel offense, it's hard to do better than this kid. 0:22:27.640 --> 0:22:31.160 He runs all the route tree, all of it. He 0:22:31.280 --> 0:22:33.320 runs a full receiver's route tree. 0:22:33.440 --> 0:22:36.040 That is why you can interchangeably switch in between the 0:22:36.080 --> 0:22:39.639 slot and the boundary. He knows what he's doing, understands leverage, 0:22:39.720 --> 0:22:44.000 understands angles, understands setting defenders up by miming actions that 0:22:44.040 --> 0:22:46.720 were done earlier in the game and then playing off 0:22:46.760 --> 0:22:50.040 their suppositions of where he's going. Right, So like you 0:22:50.080 --> 0:22:53.280 get some of that cool stuff. He creates separation like 0:22:53.640 --> 0:22:55.639 the rest of us breathe there. It was like ninety 0:22:55.880 --> 0:22:59.879 fifth percentile separation rate during his career. And not only that, 0:23:00.359 --> 0:23:03.840 you have this crazy we've been talking about catcher aises. 0:23:03.880 --> 0:23:06.520 But this kid's got a crazy one. It's six sex 0:23:06.600 --> 0:23:09.119 and then he has the stretch armstrong arms, and he 0:23:09.200 --> 0:23:13.320 doesn't drop literally anything, and and there's this is not 0:23:13.359 --> 0:23:17.240 an apocryphal story. This is a true story. Colson Loveland's 0:23:17.320 --> 0:23:20.359 background will remind you of Roy Hobbs from the natural 0:23:20.760 --> 0:23:23.359 Roy Hobbs. He's out there on the family farm and 0:23:23.400 --> 0:23:25.640 he's drawn you know, the little square on the side 0:23:25.680 --> 0:23:26.280 of the red farm. 0:23:26.320 --> 0:23:28.399 And that's how he's doing his accuracy and stuff like this. 0:23:28.800 --> 0:23:31.399 Colson Loveland grew up on a family farm out in 0:23:31.440 --> 0:23:36.000 the fields of Idaho, Idaho, and his job Colson Loveland 0:23:36.000 --> 0:23:38.320 as a kid, him and his brother, they send him 0:23:38.359 --> 0:23:40.879 out to the fields to pick out the big rocks 0:23:40.920 --> 0:23:42.320 before the machines got out there. 0:23:42.359 --> 0:23:46.200 To tell wow, the rocks that would chew up the machines. Right, 0:23:46.280 --> 0:23:51.359 So Coltson and his brother would go out there huge rocks. 0:23:51.400 --> 0:23:55.000 We're not talking that skipping keebble. We're talking about boulders. 0:23:55.440 --> 0:23:59.000 So that that is how that kid developed his hands, right, 0:23:59.040 --> 0:24:02.000 I mean, like you want to about callous strong hands 0:24:02.600 --> 0:24:05.320 pick up rocks in the field to idahol your entire life. 0:24:05.400 --> 0:24:08.320 That that is where that kid came from. So I mean, 0:24:08.359 --> 0:24:10.800 it's absolutely ridiculous. And by the way, those callous rock 0:24:10.840 --> 0:24:13.919 hard and hands from the fields idle ten ten inches 0:24:13.960 --> 0:24:16.440 on that, So I mean he has meek believer baseball 0:24:16.480 --> 0:24:19.600 glove sized hands as well, and he doesn't drop anything. 0:24:19.960 --> 0:24:22.439 So you have that crazy catch radius, you have the 0:24:22.480 --> 0:24:25.280 ability to create separation, and then you have the thing 0:24:25.320 --> 0:24:29.480 of strong safety on him or the outside linebacker, the 0:24:29.560 --> 0:24:32.880 regular nickel or whatever. You have matchup problems no matter 0:24:32.960 --> 0:24:35.160 who you toss at him, especially because he wins down 0:24:35.160 --> 0:24:37.399 the field so well, So that that is what he 0:24:37.480 --> 0:24:38.680 is bringing to an offense. 0:24:39.119 --> 0:24:43.480 Colson Loveland, if he's there for Harbaugh and the Chargers 0:24:43.520 --> 0:24:46.000 pick in the first round, they're picking like twenty where 0:24:46.000 --> 0:24:49.439 are they they are picking twenty twenty two? That's does it? 0:24:49.560 --> 0:24:51.520 Is it automatic? Is it feels automatic? 0:24:52.560 --> 0:24:55.360 It's to me, it feels pretty close. Now. 0:24:55.480 --> 0:24:58.120 One complicating factor is if Kenneth Grant is there as well, 0:24:58.440 --> 0:25:00.920 a defensive tackle who Jim Harby brought to Michigan, and 0:25:00.960 --> 0:25:04.000 one's called a gift from the football gods. But Jim Jim, 0:25:04.320 --> 0:25:06.399 his twenty twenty three team was so good. There's a 0:25:06.400 --> 0:25:08.600 couple guys Jim's like, can I get my former player 0:25:08.640 --> 0:25:11.960 back right to twenty two? But yeah, if Colson Loveland 0:25:11.960 --> 0:25:14.640 gets there, I do not see Jim taking a wide 0:25:14.680 --> 0:25:16.480 receiver in the first round. I know people have that 0:25:16.560 --> 0:25:19.120 up there as a need, but that's not really hardball's ethos. 0:25:19.200 --> 0:25:22.800 But he loves players like this and he'll develop him 0:25:22.800 --> 0:25:23.320 at Michigan. 0:25:23.359 --> 0:25:25.760 All right, Just one last thing on Loveland that I 0:25:25.760 --> 0:25:29.280 want to hit you with. Sometimes, if a player is 0:25:29.520 --> 0:25:32.480 so good at separation, we don't really have a read 0:25:32.600 --> 0:25:35.080 on how that player is and going to contested catch 0:25:35.119 --> 0:25:39.480 situations because they separated so well that you didn't get 0:25:39.520 --> 0:25:42.399 a lot of tape of that player in in contested 0:25:42.520 --> 0:25:46.520 catch situations. And I can see where somebody that at 0:25:46.560 --> 0:25:49.679 a ninety five percent separation, right, like you're talking about 0:25:49.840 --> 0:25:52.840 maybe that's an open question mark on Colson Loveland. 0:25:53.880 --> 0:25:56.240 Yeah, And it's it's the one part that you can nipick, 0:25:56.320 --> 0:25:59.920 especially down the field. His numbers career were not great. 0:26:00.400 --> 0:26:04.080 Ten of twenty five career in contesting catch situations. Now 0:26:04.359 --> 0:26:08.240 the number is lower because he creates separation so well. Right, 0:26:08.520 --> 0:26:10.800 So it's like, you know, sort of the two ends 0:26:10.800 --> 0:26:13.560 of it. But he wants to he wants to get 0:26:13.600 --> 0:26:16.240 a step or two on you and then finish the 0:26:16.320 --> 0:26:19.600 job with that enormous catch radius. Right, it's like the catcher. 0:26:19.960 --> 0:26:22.679 It's like a fisherman's net in the ocean kind of 0:26:22.680 --> 0:26:24.639 a thing, like just drop it anywhere in here and 0:26:24.680 --> 0:26:27.440 I'm coming down with it. And his ability to contort 0:26:27.520 --> 0:26:31.080 as well with the body in addition to that. But yeah, 0:26:30.880 --> 0:26:33.879 the thing where if the defender happens to be on 0:26:33.920 --> 0:26:37.240 the doorstep there and is able to contest that catchpoint, 0:26:37.640 --> 0:26:40.159 that is where we have seen some struggles with Colson 0:26:40.200 --> 0:26:43.720 Lovelin because he's that big skyscraper and there is sort 0:26:43.720 --> 0:26:44.959 of that finesse element. 0:26:45.200 --> 0:26:45.960 He's a tough kid. 0:26:46.000 --> 0:26:48.080 So I don't mean to say that it's just the 0:26:48.119 --> 0:26:51.080 way he's winning. It's with movement, it's with that catch radius, 0:26:51.080 --> 0:26:53.680 and it's with nohow at the catch point. But when 0:26:54.000 --> 0:26:57.159 there's guys in this, for instance, not a tight end 0:26:57.200 --> 0:27:00.679 but a wide receiver Tedoroa McMillan is he he wants 0:27:00.680 --> 0:27:03.680 you around him at the catchpoint and he doesn't care 0:27:03.720 --> 0:27:05.680 if you want to jostle. In fact, he loves it. 0:27:06.080 --> 0:27:08.840 You try to come through his back, no problem, You're 0:27:08.880 --> 0:27:11.000 not going to break his concentration. You're you're not going 0:27:11.080 --> 0:27:14.399 to break his process. Colson Lovelin's different, different like that. 0:27:14.960 --> 0:27:17.199 And one way you can if you can stay with 0:27:17.280 --> 0:27:19.560 him up to the point of the catchpoint. Easier said 0:27:19.600 --> 0:27:22.359 than done, but jostling with him there and then and 0:27:22.400 --> 0:27:23.960 then trying to get it to the point where then 0:27:24.000 --> 0:27:25.640 the ref one and throw the flight, but your your 0:27:25.760 --> 0:27:28.200 jarring a little bit. That's one way that you can 0:27:28.600 --> 0:27:31.240 try to take the pull out of the middle of 0:27:31.240 --> 0:27:32.760 the circus ten at the catchpoint. 0:27:32.920 --> 0:27:35.000 When we come back from our break, we're gonna find 0:27:35.040 --> 0:27:39.639 out why the player who shattered the single season FBS 0:27:39.680 --> 0:27:42.800 records for both tight end receptions and tight end receiving 0:27:42.880 --> 0:27:45.880 yards is not tight end number three yet. And we'll 0:27:45.880 --> 0:27:48.000 find out more about him when we come back to 0:27:48.080 --> 0:28:00.000 Fantasy Football Weekly. Welcome back segment number two Fantasy Football Weekly. 0:28:00.040 --> 0:28:02.480 I'll Charting and thorwn Eistrom with you. Thanks for listening today. 0:28:02.840 --> 0:28:06.320 Next week we'll break down the quarterback position, cam Ward 0:28:06.880 --> 0:28:09.679 and others. How many how many quarterbacks do you do 0:28:09.720 --> 0:28:12.040 you you've got two quarterbacks in the first round, right, 0:28:12.080 --> 0:28:14.040 I don't think your MOC has got three in the 0:28:14.040 --> 0:28:15.720 first round, correct, Yeah? 0:28:15.800 --> 0:28:17.600 Yeah, I'm at too, Jackson. 0:28:17.640 --> 0:28:19.320 Derek could go at the end of the first but yeah, 0:28:19.359 --> 0:28:21.520 I you know, early second rounder for me, Jackson. 0:28:21.600 --> 0:28:23.639 Yeah, we'll do the deep dive on that next week. 0:28:23.840 --> 0:28:26.760 Let's go to your number three ranked, number ten, number 0:28:26.800 --> 0:28:30.360 three ranked tight end, Terrence Ferguson from or Again. Your 0:28:30.400 --> 0:28:34.680 comp here is Kate Aughton. Tell me more about Terrence Ferguson. 0:28:34.720 --> 0:28:36.359 I'm gonna be honest, this is not a guy that 0:28:36.440 --> 0:28:38.680 I've that I've seen a lot on. So I need 0:28:38.720 --> 0:28:42.560 you to get me up to speed here. I I yeah, 0:28:42.640 --> 0:28:44.720 get me up to speed on Terrence Ferguson. Help me out. 0:28:45.200 --> 0:28:47.600 Yeah, I'm I'm definitely a little bit higher on Terrence 0:28:47.640 --> 0:28:50.000 Ferguson than I think the rest of the industry. He 0:28:50.080 --> 0:28:53.160 probably closer to tight end five in the consensus, but 0:28:53.680 --> 0:28:56.320 I just really like his game because it is fully 0:28:56.360 --> 0:28:58.960 fleshed out and the versatility is there as well. 0:28:59.000 --> 0:29:01.080 But six five to have two forty seven. 0:29:01.120 --> 0:29:03.320 He plays a little bit above two fifty and then 0:29:03.360 --> 0:29:05.560 a fabulous athlete. I mean he was the best test 0:29:05.560 --> 0:29:07.760 an athlete that we had the NFL combine four six 0:29:07.800 --> 0:29:10.800 three forty one five to five ten yards split high 0:29:10.880 --> 0:29:13.760 high end thirty nine inch vertical was incredible. 0:29:14.240 --> 0:29:18.360 Over ten inch that's crazy guy, yeah, exactly. 0:29:18.440 --> 0:29:20.640 And then you have the really long wingspan with him 0:29:20.680 --> 0:29:22.960 to over eighty one of the longest wingspans in this 0:29:23.040 --> 0:29:25.440 tight end class, and it's one of the few guys 0:29:25.480 --> 0:29:28.640 that has true can absolutely play the in line. And 0:29:28.680 --> 0:29:30.960 then he's super comfortable in the slot as well, So 0:29:31.040 --> 0:29:34.320 you have versatility, whether it's the eleven personal offense, whether 0:29:34.320 --> 0:29:37.040 it's a twelve personal offense, and then where is he deployed. 0:29:37.480 --> 0:29:39.200 Not a ton of tight end tight ends in the 0:29:39.200 --> 0:29:39.920 class you can. 0:29:39.840 --> 0:29:42.360 Say that about. You can absolutely say it about Ferguson. 0:29:42.440 --> 0:29:46.040 He gives you effort as a blocker, not a crushing 0:29:46.040 --> 0:29:48.920 blocker or anything, but you can rely on him in line. 0:29:49.040 --> 0:29:50.600 And then I like his hands. 0:29:51.240 --> 0:29:53.680 Five percent drop rate over one hundred and eighty three 0:29:53.720 --> 0:29:57.320 career targets really good. Saw him quite a bit spearing 0:29:57.360 --> 0:29:59.960 the ball outside of his frame. He's good at positioning 0:30:00.080 --> 0:30:02.280 his body and then for those air and throw sort 0:30:02.280 --> 0:30:04.640 of fishing them all. So he becomes the quarterback's best 0:30:04.640 --> 0:30:07.720 friend with that. But yeah, it's you know, I think 0:30:07.760 --> 0:30:10.400 maybe it's just there's a lack of sex appeal there 0:30:10.440 --> 0:30:12.640 because some of the other guys had higher numbers than him, 0:30:12.760 --> 0:30:15.320 or they were talked about more these different things, and 0:30:15.320 --> 0:30:17.680 it's like Terrence Ferguson is just sort of lurking. I 0:30:17.960 --> 0:30:20.760 think he's gonna go higher than people think once we 0:30:20.840 --> 0:30:21.880 get to the end of April. 0:30:22.080 --> 0:30:24.400 Yeah, but you don't have him going in the first round. 0:30:24.400 --> 0:30:26.600 You've got Warren Lovelin going in the first round, but 0:30:26.640 --> 0:30:28.480 not Ferguson. Do you feel like there's he is a 0:30:28.560 --> 0:30:30.720 day he is a round two tight end. 0:30:31.640 --> 0:30:34.440 I think he'll go in round two, yes, and if 0:30:34.480 --> 0:30:37.640 he doesn't, he is gonna go very quickly when round 0:30:37.680 --> 0:30:38.320 three opens. 0:30:38.520 --> 0:30:42.120 Okay, I've seen him mocked all over the second round 0:30:42.280 --> 0:30:44.360 to a bunch of different teams when we've already highlighted 0:30:44.360 --> 0:30:46.960 some of the different landing spots. Thanks, let's go to 0:30:46.960 --> 0:30:50.640 one of the players that has the most amazing possible 0:30:50.760 --> 0:30:55.080 pedigree to enter to enter the NFL as you could 0:30:55.080 --> 0:30:58.080 ever ask. Now if I remember this correctly, because it's 0:30:58.080 --> 0:31:03.920 been a while, Fame linebacker Jason Taylor married the sister 0:31:04.200 --> 0:31:07.280 of Hall of Fame defensive end Zach Thomas. Am I 0:31:07.320 --> 0:31:10.600 do remember that correct and they had a baby. Mason 0:31:10.640 --> 0:31:12.200 Taylor is that right. 0:31:12.600 --> 0:31:15.200 Well, Mason, he's he's Jason's son. 0:31:15.400 --> 0:31:19.000 He's Jason's son, right and and uncle is Zach is 0:31:19.160 --> 0:31:23.080 uncle Zach? So didn't okay, right, So didn't Jason marry 0:31:23.520 --> 0:31:27.440 Zach's sister? Then? If I got this correct, I think I. 0:31:27.440 --> 0:31:32.080 Did, was you know I or else it was Zach 0:31:32.160 --> 0:31:34.479 with his sister, But that part I don't know. 0:31:35.600 --> 0:31:38.640 That's I think. Yeah, all right, So regardless, he's the 0:31:38.640 --> 0:31:40.800 son of Jason Taylor and the nephew of Zach Thomas, 0:31:40.840 --> 0:31:45.120 which you know, both amazing players. Uh. Here's the one 0:31:45.120 --> 0:31:47.600 of the stats I got from that I'm stealing directly 0:31:47.600 --> 0:31:51.640 from your article at fantasylife dot com. One drop on 0:31:51.800 --> 0:31:54.440 seventy nine targets last year for Mason Taylor. 0:31:56.280 --> 0:31:59.719 Very good hands obviously, very very good hand, big hands 0:31:59.760 --> 0:32:02.440 as well, and and he's got the frame as well, 0:32:03.120 --> 0:32:06.000 you know, I mean like it came from the DNA. 0:32:05.800 --> 0:32:09.800 Game from absolutely incredible. And it's funny. He he looks 0:32:10.640 --> 0:32:11.880 strikingly like his father. 0:32:12.080 --> 0:32:13.920 You know, we were down there in Mobile and Jason 0:32:13.960 --> 0:32:16.560 Taylor was probably on the sidelines all week, and then 0:32:16.600 --> 0:32:18.240 after practice, you know, we got to walk on the 0:32:18.240 --> 0:32:20.560 field and you'd walk by the two and it's it 0:32:20.600 --> 0:32:22.760 was started the spit and image thing. So so he 0:32:22.760 --> 0:32:25.720 he was Mason was blessed with with a very similar 0:32:25.800 --> 0:32:30.120 frame and similar athleticism. He's a ninety second percentile athlete 0:32:30.120 --> 0:32:32.040 with the test that that he has already put in. 0:32:32.360 --> 0:32:34.320 So so that stuff's all good. And and you know 0:32:34.360 --> 0:32:36.719 we mentioned the hands as well. It's a it's an 0:32:36.800 --> 0:32:40.120 interesting profile on the field, and it's there's some stuff 0:32:40.120 --> 0:32:42.160 that it was hard for me to kind of put 0:32:42.160 --> 0:32:45.800 my finger on the in line. He's he's an acceptable 0:32:45.840 --> 0:32:48.240 and up blocker there that that he can play in 0:32:48.320 --> 0:32:51.520 line in the NFL. And the thing he's the best 0:32:51.560 --> 0:32:55.000 at Mason and and maybe this comes just from being 0:32:55.040 --> 0:32:56.800 around the game as long as he was, you know, 0:32:56.840 --> 0:32:59.240 it's like, uh, you know, it's like when you're a kid, 0:32:59.280 --> 0:33:00.959 you're out there, you're the ball boy and then you're 0:33:01.000 --> 0:33:03.160 running rouse for it, you know whatever. But like he 0:33:03.320 --> 0:33:05.560 was really good when LSU, they would go down the 0:33:05.560 --> 0:33:08.040 field and then you start getting the defense and moving 0:33:08.160 --> 0:33:09.800 back a little bit and then they do like a 0:33:09.800 --> 0:33:14.120 play action concept and boot out and Garrett Neusmyer their quarterback. 0:33:14.360 --> 0:33:17.280 The timing that he had with Mason Taylor on those 0:33:17.320 --> 0:33:19.960 things like Mason would do, like the hard ship. You're 0:33:19.960 --> 0:33:22.280 pretending your run bocking, but then you get out and 0:33:22.280 --> 0:33:24.400 it's like five years upfield. You cut the clean corner 0:33:24.440 --> 0:33:26.000 out and then you turn around. And the ball was 0:33:26.000 --> 0:33:27.960 always on his hands like they just had a really 0:33:27.960 --> 0:33:30.760 good sort of chemistry, and he never dropped the ball. 0:33:30.920 --> 0:33:33.560 So that's why why my you know, kept throwing it 0:33:33.600 --> 0:33:36.360 to him. But the interesting thing about the profile as 0:33:36.360 --> 0:33:38.920 a receiver was LSU rarely sent. 0:33:38.960 --> 0:33:41.360 Him down the field. And that's what you can see 0:33:41.360 --> 0:33:42.640 it both. You can see it two ways. 0:33:42.760 --> 0:33:44.960 Is it they didn't trust him to do that or 0:33:45.040 --> 0:33:47.600 is it that their receivers were really good going down 0:33:47.640 --> 0:33:49.400 the field. I mean, we know the receivers that he 0:33:49.440 --> 0:33:51.720 played with, so we know that. The second, it's certainly true. 0:33:52.080 --> 0:33:53.719 And is that the reason they didn't send it down 0:33:53.760 --> 0:33:56.080 the field because they already had guys that could do that. 0:33:56.200 --> 0:33:58.440 So it's one interesting thing to keep in mind. The 0:33:58.520 --> 0:34:01.959 other one is for a whose usage was what it was. 0:34:02.000 --> 0:34:03.840 You know, his A dot was on the lower end 0:34:04.320 --> 0:34:06.960 for this class. I mentioned the way that they predominantly 0:34:07.000 --> 0:34:11.120 use him off of that hiss uh the A dot you. 0:34:11.080 --> 0:34:13.560 Know, I can't pull it up real quick here. 0:34:13.600 --> 0:34:16.000 But but anyway, for a guy with that usage, the 0:34:16.120 --> 0:34:18.839 yards after the catch was not what you would think 0:34:18.840 --> 0:34:21.319 it would be. I was a little bit disappointed by that. 0:34:21.360 --> 0:34:23.239 It was a little bit stationed to station with that. 0:34:24.120 --> 0:34:27.239 But I was looking at the Senior Bowl. You're the 0:34:27.800 --> 0:34:29.759 running after the catch. That's not something that you're going 0:34:29.840 --> 0:34:31.959 to see much there because the way the practices are. 0:34:32.239 --> 0:34:34.120 But you got to see a lot of the downfield 0:34:34.160 --> 0:34:35.359 stuff because the one on ones. 0:34:35.920 --> 0:34:39.000 He looked good down the field and we didn't get. 0:34:38.920 --> 0:34:40.520 To see it as much on his LSU tape, So 0:34:40.600 --> 0:34:43.839 that was something again actively monitoring. And he made some 0:34:43.960 --> 0:34:46.560 nice contests to catches down the field at the Senior Bowl. 0:34:46.560 --> 0:34:48.719 So it's not something in his value, as you say, 0:34:48.840 --> 0:34:49.440 can't do it. 0:34:49.680 --> 0:34:51.560 They just didn't use him like that at LSU, and 0:34:51.760 --> 0:34:52.960 we did get to see a little bit at the 0:34:52.960 --> 0:34:55.600 Senier Bowl for whatever it's worth, but you get at 0:34:55.680 --> 0:34:58.600 least the efficiency as a receiver and a guy in 0:34:58.640 --> 0:35:01.799 a timing concept off defense that is going to be 0:35:01.880 --> 0:35:04.520 super reliable. He's always going to be at the spot 0:35:04.560 --> 0:35:08.279 the exact millisecond that that the concept calls for, and 0:35:08.320 --> 0:35:10.640 he's not going to drop the ball for you, and 0:35:10.680 --> 0:35:13.120 then you get the the inline frame, you get a 0:35:13.120 --> 0:35:14.680 guy who can do a little bit of blocking for you. 0:35:14.880 --> 0:35:17.200 I just think the ceiling probably isn't quite as high 0:35:17.280 --> 0:35:20.080 as maybe you know, between the name and between where 0:35:20.080 --> 0:35:22.960 he's coming from, the pedigree, the athletic profile. I don't 0:35:22.960 --> 0:35:25.480 think it's quite as high as that stuff suggests. But 0:35:25.600 --> 0:35:27.400 this guy is going to be a reliable starter for. 0:35:27.400 --> 0:35:27.839 A long time. 0:35:27.880 --> 0:35:29.480 What round do you have Mason Taylor going in? 0:35:30.800 --> 0:35:33.400 To me, it would be laid second, early third for Mason. 0:35:33.560 --> 0:35:37.000 Okay, all right, that's uh, that's that's mostly where I 0:35:37.520 --> 0:35:41.920 see him getting mocked, including potentially two to the Seahawks. 0:35:41.920 --> 0:35:43.600 So does a team we didn't really talk about, they've 0:35:43.600 --> 0:35:45.160 got NOA Fan. Do you think the teams are ready? 0:35:45.160 --> 0:35:47.440 Do you think Seahawks might be ready? We're finally thrown 0:35:47.440 --> 0:35:50.120 in the towel on Noah Fan. Is that possible? 0:35:50.120 --> 0:35:52.160 They they should? Yeah, they should, definite. 0:35:52.160 --> 0:35:54.320 I mean it hurts my heart to say, is a 0:35:54.360 --> 0:35:56.919 guy who graduated from from Iowa be yeah, I'm I'm 0:35:56.960 --> 0:35:58.560 I'm sorry out I know if I was, I was, 0:35:58.600 --> 0:35:59.719 I was a little bit lower on No. 0:35:59.719 --> 0:36:00.840 A Fan his draft class. 0:36:00.840 --> 0:36:05.040 But for them, they have a J Barner as that 0:36:05.160 --> 0:36:06.960 crushing sort of blockers, so you can take care of 0:36:07.000 --> 0:36:10.719 in line. The Seahawks would be a team that they 0:36:10.719 --> 0:36:12.600 would be on the short list for one of these 0:36:12.640 --> 0:36:15.839 other slot only guys and maybe the next guy we're 0:36:15.840 --> 0:36:18.759 going to talk about. There's not every team could take him. 0:36:18.800 --> 0:36:21.759 If Seahawks could absolutely consider it. If you're looking to 0:36:21.880 --> 0:36:22.520 a Jack fan. 0:36:22.920 --> 0:36:26.320 All right, So here's the answer on on Mason Taylor 0:36:26.520 --> 0:36:30.960 and his father. So I've got I've got it all. 0:36:31.000 --> 0:36:32.400 I got it all figured out. Now. It's taken me 0:36:32.440 --> 0:36:34.120 a little bit to get here, but we're here. Jason 0:36:34.120 --> 0:36:40.000 Taylor did in fact, Mary Zach Zach Thomas's sister, and 0:36:40.480 --> 0:36:42.759 her name was Katina. You didn't need to know that, 0:36:42.800 --> 0:36:45.680 but you do. They had three kids together. Unfortunately they 0:36:45.719 --> 0:36:50.400 ended up divorced in twenty fifteen. Taylor has since remarried, 0:36:50.400 --> 0:36:53.080 by the way, and they've got they've had they got 0:36:53.080 --> 0:36:56.680 a baby boy in August of twenty twenty one. And 0:36:56.840 --> 0:36:57.280 I will. 0:36:57.160 --> 0:36:58.799 Almost assuredly evaluate him. 0:36:59.320 --> 0:37:07.919 Yeah, exactly. And then Taylor's sister is the former news 0:37:08.000 --> 0:37:10.640 anchor on The Herd with Colin Coward on Fox Sports One. 0:37:11.280 --> 0:37:12.000 Who knew? 0:37:11.719 --> 0:37:14.080 Oh wait, Joy Taylor. 0:37:14.239 --> 0:37:18.000 Yeah, Joy Taylor. I had no idea Joy Taylor in 0:37:18.040 --> 0:37:21.160 the family, all the family. Yes. The next one up 0:37:21.200 --> 0:37:26.160 for you is Isaiah Taylor is playing college football at 0:37:26.160 --> 0:37:29.640 Arizona according to Wikipedia here, So you may end up 0:37:29.640 --> 0:37:30.799 breaking him down at some point. 0:37:30.880 --> 0:37:33.680 Well, we got all the tailors in the pipeline. 0:37:33.760 --> 0:37:35.960 Absolutely, Okay, let's go to your fifth rank to a 0:37:36.040 --> 0:37:38.560 tight end and this will be our last one for 0:37:38.600 --> 0:37:42.279 this show. Harold Fannon played for Bowling Green and that 0:37:42.400 --> 0:37:45.000 ends up changing the entire conversation that we're going to 0:37:45.080 --> 0:37:49.319 have about him. Insane productivity. As I mentioned going into 0:37:49.320 --> 0:37:52.920 the break, he set the single season FBS record at 0:37:52.920 --> 0:37:56.279 the tight end position in receptions and receiving yards one 0:37:56.360 --> 0:38:01.240 hundred and seventeen receptions last year, fifteen hundred receiving yards, 0:38:01.560 --> 0:38:05.120 and he set three different pff ERA records yards after contact, 0:38:05.280 --> 0:38:10.160 miss tackles, force, and receiving grade overall. And so help 0:38:10.200 --> 0:38:13.000 me understand why Harold Fannin is not tight end one 0:38:13.040 --> 0:38:14.360 in this class. 0:38:15.080 --> 0:38:17.000 Because he's not gonna he's not gonna block for you 0:38:17.000 --> 0:38:19.279 in line, or you probably should never play him in line. 0:38:19.920 --> 0:38:22.319 You're gonna have to yank the slot receiver out there. 0:38:22.360 --> 0:38:24.600 It's a you know, a twelve personnel offense type thing. 0:38:24.719 --> 0:38:27.040 You have your inline guy, yeah, and then Fannin is 0:38:27.080 --> 0:38:29.000 gonna you're gonna take over the slot thing, but you're 0:38:29.000 --> 0:38:30.160 gonna play them all over the place. 0:38:30.160 --> 0:38:31.479 You're gonna shift them all over the place. 0:38:31.520 --> 0:38:33.640 He's the guy that's gonna give you the tell before 0:38:33.680 --> 0:38:36.240 the snap of if the defense is a manner and zone, 0:38:36.280 --> 0:38:37.960 you know, depending on if they're trailing them and that 0:38:38.000 --> 0:38:40.080 sort of stuff. And then you shift them around too 0:38:40.160 --> 0:38:43.120 to get to get him into advantageous matchups. Right, I mean, 0:38:43.120 --> 0:38:45.040 that's that's what you're looking to do with Harold Fannin. 0:38:45.120 --> 0:38:47.960 It's he's a shadeover six threes two forty one, and 0:38:48.000 --> 0:38:51.520 of course he's undersize, but just about the exact same 0:38:51.520 --> 0:38:54.760 dimensions as Evan Evan Ingram, so you know, just for 0:38:54.760 --> 0:38:55.879 for some context there. 0:38:56.239 --> 0:38:59.160 But very skilled receiver Harrold fann and he can win 0:38:59.239 --> 0:38:59.880 down the field. 0:39:00.040 --> 0:39:03.080 He's got to tracking the ball over his shoulders, extremely 0:39:03.160 --> 0:39:04.000 reliable hands. 0:39:04.040 --> 0:39:06.520 I mean, he doesn't he doesn't drop the ball whatsoever. 0:39:06.800 --> 0:39:09.920 Over his career, only dropped two point two percent of 0:39:09.920 --> 0:39:11.160 his catchuble targets. 0:39:11.520 --> 0:39:12.960 So you have that going for you. 0:39:13.080 --> 0:39:14.719 And then as far as the content, you know, of 0:39:14.760 --> 0:39:17.560 course it's bowling Green, you know, so he gets dinged 0:39:17.560 --> 0:39:18.959 for that, and he gets dinged for being a little 0:39:18.960 --> 0:39:21.959 bit smaller. But the thing I'll tell you, especially last 0:39:22.040 --> 0:39:25.040 year Church, you know, they're in another human being on 0:39:25.040 --> 0:39:29.560 his plant watch more Max than I and Hail mash 0:39:29.640 --> 0:39:32.279 and and watching Bawling Green was super fun because it's 0:39:32.320 --> 0:39:34.279 just get the ball to Harrold, get the ball to well. 0:39:34.400 --> 0:39:38.000 The defense knew that their entire game plan was get 0:39:38.000 --> 0:39:40.000 the ball to Harrold. So when they were playing the 0:39:40.000 --> 0:39:41.680 mac opponents, of course it's not you know a lot 0:39:41.719 --> 0:39:43.000 of times non NFL. 0:39:42.680 --> 0:39:44.919 Defenders, but he was double team every play. 0:39:45.080 --> 0:39:47.560 Yeah, all right, So like against those opponents, and then 0:39:47.600 --> 0:39:49.719 the times when they got to step up in competition, 0:39:50.000 --> 0:39:52.279 Harrold Fann and lit up Texas A and m Harrol 0:39:52.360 --> 0:39:53.520 Fann and lit up Penn State. 0:39:53.920 --> 0:39:55.680 Those defenses were about as good as we. 0:39:55.680 --> 0:39:58.000 Had in college football, and Harrold fan lit them, bolted up, 0:39:58.040 --> 0:40:00.399 and they knew what was coming to This kid has 0:40:00.400 --> 0:40:03.440 beaten NFL defenders when he has gotten to play them consistently. 0:40:03.560 --> 0:40:06.280 So I mean those numbers, you know, they they speak 0:40:06.280 --> 0:40:08.800 for themselves. It's a guy who's really good against zone. 0:40:09.800 --> 0:40:13.719 The overall yards per run was nearly three. He also 0:40:13.880 --> 0:40:18.200 does the contested catch things. He's good at using his body. 0:40:18.280 --> 0:40:20.319 The thing of you know, with the frame and the 0:40:20.360 --> 0:40:23.719 boxing out extends to the ball again, doesn't drop it. 0:40:24.239 --> 0:40:25.759 You can do a lot of things with him as 0:40:25.760 --> 0:40:28.160 a receiver, but you have to have the creative staff 0:40:28.160 --> 0:40:29.920 and you have to know his limitations. You don't want 0:40:29.920 --> 0:40:32.200 to put him in this in line and have him 0:40:32.239 --> 0:40:35.080 go against a ward daddy power end. I will say, though, 0:40:35.160 --> 0:40:38.080 that doesn't mean he can't block. His kid's actually a 0:40:38.120 --> 0:40:41.239 good blocker. Okay, it's just he can't do it in 0:40:41.280 --> 0:40:44.040 line against the power because it's he's gonna get Trump carded. 0:40:44.360 --> 0:40:46.960 But it's a guy who gives you fabulous effort and 0:40:47.000 --> 0:40:48.960 so like as the space guy, when he's out in 0:40:48.960 --> 0:40:50.640 the slot, you do not have. 0:40:50.600 --> 0:40:52.760 To worry about that. He will take care of the nickel. 0:40:53.120 --> 0:40:55.000 And then when they shift him into the backfield because 0:40:55.000 --> 0:40:57.600 they love doing that too, then he becomes the lead blocker. 0:40:57.640 --> 0:40:58.520 He's good at that too. 0:40:58.840 --> 0:41:01.080 It's just you can't put him in in line at 0:41:01.120 --> 0:41:03.600 the NFL level just because of the power discrepancy. 0:41:03.640 --> 0:41:05.399 But yeah, this is. 0:41:05.520 --> 0:41:07.560 A player that I really really like, and I think, 0:41:07.640 --> 0:41:10.120 you know, he finds the right situation, he's gonna catch. 0:41:10.000 --> 0:41:10.600 A lot of balls. 0:41:10.760 --> 0:41:13.120 Harold Fannin When I when I watch him, I I 0:41:13.239 --> 0:41:16.440 feel like I'm watching a large wide receiver more than 0:41:16.480 --> 0:41:19.200 a small tight end. Do you feel like that's fair? 0:41:20.000 --> 0:41:22.239 I do, because he can he can do so much. 0:41:22.400 --> 0:41:24.480 It's it's not just the peer. Oh, you have to 0:41:24.520 --> 0:41:25.719 manufacture the touch for him. 0:41:25.760 --> 0:41:26.000 Again. 0:41:26.120 --> 0:41:28.560 He can win intermediate with the route running and the 0:41:28.560 --> 0:41:30.839 ball skills, and he can win down the field too. 0:41:31.120 --> 0:41:32.920 You can throw a lollipops up to him. 0:41:32.960 --> 0:41:36.360 And they do interesting things with his routes too, you know, 0:41:36.480 --> 0:41:38.960 like some times they would do like a delayed sort 0:41:38.960 --> 0:41:40.960 of like a wheel route to get him down the 0:41:41.080 --> 0:41:42.680 sideline where they knew it would be the one on 0:41:42.680 --> 0:41:45.560 one covers. Yeah, fair enough. Yeah, you're dialing it up 0:41:45.600 --> 0:41:47.280 at that point. You were tossing it up to Harold 0:41:47.280 --> 0:41:49.959 fan and one on one and again those ball scales play. 0:41:49.960 --> 0:41:52.200 It's it's impressive for me with the tight ends in 0:41:52.239 --> 0:41:54.520 college when you see over the shoulder thing and the 0:41:54.560 --> 0:41:56.800 guys that are natural at that, because that's it's a 0:41:56.880 --> 0:41:58.640 rare trade for college tight ends he's got it. 0:41:59.080 --> 0:42:02.239 So, like you know, some of the I get the trepidation. 0:42:01.760 --> 0:42:04.560 About the profile, and I acknowledge the limitations of it. 0:42:04.920 --> 0:42:07.360 But for a creative offensive staff and you run the 0:42:07.360 --> 0:42:09.200 twelve personnel offense, you're gonna be able to do a 0:42:09.200 --> 0:42:10.600 whole lot of things with that kid. 0:42:11.040 --> 0:42:14.360 Yeah, I'm trying to. I'm just trying to find the 0:42:14.400 --> 0:42:17.319 downside here in Harold Fannin And so I just get 0:42:17.320 --> 0:42:20.359 the feeling if he drops into the right spot latter 0:42:20.440 --> 0:42:23.400 part of round two, where there's some really good teams 0:42:23.400 --> 0:42:25.239 at the obviously the bottom of the at the at 0:42:25.280 --> 0:42:27.960 the bottom of the round, and I just get the feeling, 0:42:28.040 --> 0:42:30.319 this kid's gonna be productive with somebody if he gets 0:42:30.320 --> 0:42:30.799 into the right thing. 0:42:30.840 --> 0:42:33.239 Yeah, I mean the Seahawks would make a lot of sense, 0:42:33.280 --> 0:42:36.960 you know, like we're just talking about an offensive type 0:42:37.040 --> 0:42:39.440 that he would be awesome. And I don't know that 0:42:39.520 --> 0:42:41.680 they can take him because they lack picks. 0:42:41.680 --> 0:42:43.760 But our local Minnesota Vikings. 0:42:43.760 --> 0:42:46.320 Now, if you have Hawkinson and then they signed Rondell 0:42:46.400 --> 0:42:49.000 Moore as well, so you have some sort of supervolous 0:42:49.000 --> 0:42:50.880 things there. But that's the sort of offense, sort of 0:42:50.880 --> 0:42:52.840 the creative mind that you want to go in and 0:42:53.120 --> 0:42:55.799 it guy with the twelve personnel leanings there. You know, 0:42:55.880 --> 0:42:58.040 they have Josh Oliver and then they have him sometimes, 0:42:58.080 --> 0:43:01.600 but they use the big slot in that offense what TJ. 0:43:01.680 --> 0:43:05.439 Hawkinson is, but hero Fantom would be. That's the sort 0:43:05.480 --> 0:43:07.120 of offense that he should be playing in. 0:43:08.000 --> 0:43:10.480 You know, if if things don't drop for Jim Harbaugh 0:43:10.800 --> 0:43:13.080 right in the right way for him to get love 0:43:13.200 --> 0:43:15.920 him right. So now eight pick eighty six Chargers that 0:43:16.000 --> 0:43:17.440 could be Harold fannin. 0:43:17.880 --> 0:43:21.120 One hundred percent. Yeah, and they signed our boy Gronklin, 0:43:21.239 --> 0:43:24.359 but like short term and and and yeah, I mean 0:43:24.440 --> 0:43:28.160 like fan and again yeah for for a guy in 0:43:28.200 --> 0:43:31.160 Harbad that likes to create the mismatches out of this slot. 0:43:31.200 --> 0:43:33.120 With a guy like that fan and can get it. 0:43:33.239 --> 0:43:35.400 N It's not the same thing as with with Lovelan 0:43:35.480 --> 0:43:38.320 with the catch the enormous catch raids. Yet Fanny you 0:43:38.360 --> 0:43:41.080 can do the different stuff with him. 0:43:40.600 --> 0:43:43.359 Thor awesome as always. Thanks so much for your time 0:43:43.360 --> 0:43:45.319 and getting us a lot smarter and tight ends. And 0:43:45.600 --> 0:43:47.040 next week let's stop quarterbacks. 0:43:47.400 --> 0:43:48.160 Let's do it all. 0:43:48.160 --> 0:43:51.080 Right, can't wait. Thanks my man, Thank you for listening, everybody. 0:43:51.080 --> 0:43:53.760 We'll be back next week For more Fantasy Football Weekly. 0:43:53.960 --> 0:43:57.319 Fantasy Football Weekly is a production of iHeart Radio. For 0:43:57.400 --> 0:44:00.399 more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeart Radio you app, 0:44:00.440 --> 0:44:03.560 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.