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Speaker 1: we got a lot of stuff to get to here

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Speaker 1: way to lose the game they should win. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: know what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna do what I

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Speaker 1: should have done a long, long, long, long time ago.

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Speaker 1: I know this bothered him, So this is what I'm

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Speaker 1: going to do. Okay, a week ago, right, we lost

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Speaker 1: a really tough home loss to Robert Morse and we'll

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Speaker 1: walk out the floor. I pushed the stool out of

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Speaker 1: the way, and yeah, I apologize for it's dumb. It's

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Speaker 1: just mad and nobody was around, and because the camera

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Speaker 1: caught it, it became some people's news and we talked

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Speaker 1: about in the show. But apparently there's a troll out

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Speaker 1: there who filmed me having a conversation with my athletic

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Speaker 1: director before going in and talking to the team. For

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Speaker 1: going in and talking to the team, and I got

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Speaker 1: to tell you there's a couple of things. One, you

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Speaker 1: don't film people without asking. I don't even know if

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Speaker 1: Wisconsin is a is a state where you're allowed to

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Speaker 1: film people without asking. But two and Dan, you brought

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Speaker 1: this up like it's a guy with like fifty followers

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Speaker 1: on TikTok saying fire Doug because I'm having a conversation.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was really weird. It didn't seem like it

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Speaker 2: and so I didn't understand. I didn't know if I

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Speaker 2: was missing some context. I felt that, I mean, since

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Speaker 2: I knew you, that I would know everything that was

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Speaker 2: where I'm sure it was just agated by bots or whatever,

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Speaker 2: but it was just it didn't seem like it was

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Speaker 1: No, it's my boss who's like a partner in this,

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Speaker 1: consoling me after the loss and talking me through it

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Speaker 1: and asking me a couple of questions and what happened

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Speaker 1: him what happened. There's literally nothing to it. My big issue, like,

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Speaker 1: you can't control people with the phone trying to make

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Speaker 1: something out of nothing. And the reality is, if we're

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Speaker 1: being honest, even the stool thing is a total nothing, right,

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Speaker 1: because how it reads is like I threw a chair,

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Speaker 1: like I picked it up and there's a bunch of

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Speaker 1: ducking right, This is not what happened. My issue is

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Speaker 1: there's a Facebook page called bro Bible. This is like

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Speaker 1: the third time that it's happened, right, the third time

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Speaker 1: that it's happened. Where they again, they do what you're

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Speaker 1: talking about, Dan, They aggregate pieces of something and they

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Speaker 1: tell a story without any information. By the way, can

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Speaker 1: this will get it go into the to the justin

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Speaker 1: Herbert thing right where if you have a question or

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Speaker 1: about a story, all you have to do is pick

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Speaker 1: up the phone. That's what you do when you write

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Speaker 1: a story. But these aren't. There is no journalism to it.

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Speaker 1: There's no context to it. There's just we lost a

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Speaker 1: game that we played well enough and we should have won.

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Speaker 1: We just didn't play well enough for forty minutes. It

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Speaker 1: that we've beaten Iona, we've beaten UMass, none of that,

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Speaker 1: or that Robert Morris won the league or academic probation

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Speaker 1: me saying if there is actual a human being who

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Speaker 1: social media if you would like to actually conduct an

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Speaker 1: again non contextual. There was no even Hey, by the way,

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Speaker 1: we were picked dead last in the league this year

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Speaker 1: by a wide margin. Now we're owing two in the league.

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Speaker 1: So right now we're living down to that. I own that, okay?

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Speaker 1: Or where Robert Morris is picked, or anything about the game,

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Speaker 1: Yale we were down two to twenty nine seconds to

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Speaker 1: go a top seventy five team, none of that. They

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Speaker 1: don't actually care. And again it it It doesn't bother

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Speaker 1: me from the context of my job. I understand. My

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Speaker 1: job is I understand where we are who are trying

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Speaker 1: nobody cares about that. It's fine. What I care about

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Speaker 1: is what Jayce has long said about Stephen A. Smith.

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Speaker 1: Don't say you're a journalist don't say you're any sort

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Speaker 1: journalist stuff. And when I've made mistakes in journalism, that's

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Speaker 1: where I've gone wrong, Right, That's where I've gone wrong.

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Speaker 1: And my argument was always it was opinion based. Now

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Speaker 1: it's in the context of an edit editorial. That's when

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Speaker 1: people who have this done to them. And this is

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry if I made it as a basketball player,

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Speaker 1: I'm not sorry that I got a job, and I'm

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Speaker 1: There's plenty of guys Mike Bibby got a job. He

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Speaker 1: then he was a high school coach and a successful one,

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Speaker 1: and then he got a job attack State. Nobody said

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Speaker 1: and there's kind of nothing to it, it's like what

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Speaker 1: I just I'm blown away by it, and I'm sorry

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Speaker 1: It's really the end of it. Let's get to the

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Speaker 1: last night's football game. Truly enjoyable to watch Eagles lose,

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Speaker 1: right because Eagles fans know you don't like us and

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Speaker 1: Jalen hurts Man. For a tough one to Jailen hurts

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Speaker 1: I think in game they told us no player had

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Speaker 1: modern era. That's the post nineteen seventy two of football.

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Speaker 1: I had never seen that before, but Jay Stu that

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Speaker 1: felt the fumble on the interception felt like a Charger play.

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Speaker 1: The fumble of the fumble after the interception was just

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Speaker 1: a this is not going to be Jalen Hurts night

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Speaker 1: when you saw that happen when they pick up that,

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Speaker 1: I had flashbacks of the Patriots playoff game right when

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Speaker 1: they when the Chargers were fourteen and two. Do you

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Speaker 1: know who's going to know who the player was and

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Speaker 1: the year was? That's Dan Byer.

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Speaker 3: Dan.

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Speaker 1: Do you know what year and what player was made

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Speaker 1: the interception? Oh?

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Speaker 2: I completely forgot. Yeah, I'm sorry and.

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Speaker 1: My only hope Dan, I know you're literally my only hope.

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Speaker 1: But I'm watching last night and I'm like, that usually

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Speaker 1: that that's usually the time in which we screw the

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Speaker 1: thing up. As when I'm saying us, I'm saying Chargers

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Speaker 1: and you're like, wait, the Eagles suddenly become the Keystone

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Speaker 1: Cops where they throw an interception, get a fumble back

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Speaker 1: and fumbled again. Jaster, you had to be watching that

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Speaker 1: game thinking this is the most Charger play ever, only

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Speaker 1: it happened to the Eagles.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Usually that when the ball does never almost never bounce

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Speaker 4: But you were at the game, I want to say

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Speaker 4: that night that there was a fumble and Tyreek Hill

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Speaker 1: Typical Charger play.

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Speaker 2: Like that game, that was the perfect Chargers play.

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Speaker 1: There was that three years ago.

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Speaker 1: Three years ago, and it was after the Emmanuel Acho. Uh,

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Speaker 1: he's a social media quarterback about Jessin Herbert. And I'm

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Speaker 1: watching the game and the Chargers are like completely dominating

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Speaker 1: the game, because that was Chargers. And then of course, yeah,

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Speaker 1: here's here's the play last night, Jalen Hurd's throwing interception

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Speaker 4: It's empty for Hurtz.

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Speaker 2: Wats quarterback to all and here.

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Speaker 3: Comes a blitz from Dayon.

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Speaker 5: Can't get their intercepted, big man. Oh, and the ball

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Speaker 5: is out and the ball is out again and the

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Speaker 5: Chargers fall on it. My goodness, that's an interception, a

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Speaker 5: fumble recovery by the offense, and a fumble recovery by

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Speaker 2: Let's get it all sorted out.

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Speaker 5: When it's all uncovered, it's Troy Don, It's got the ball.

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Speaker 1: The year was two thousand and six. The Chargers were

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Speaker 1: fourteen and two. Marty Schottenheimer was the coach. It was

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Speaker 1: fourth and five in the fourth quarter with six twenty

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Speaker 1: five to go. The Chargers were up twenty one to thirteen,

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Speaker 1: and Tom Brady was picked off at the Chargers thirty

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Speaker 1: by Marlin McCree Marlona McCree. All he had to do

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Speaker 1: by Troy Brown. Troy Brown, of course, did he play

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Speaker 1: both sides of the football that year.

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Speaker 2: They put him as a dB at times. Yes, I

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Speaker 2: do remember that. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And Marla McCree makes a pick, gets stripped and the

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Speaker 1: and then won the game when the Chargers when Nate

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Speaker 1: It's a snowy day in Green Bay, Wisconsin. Got like

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Speaker 1: like the Steelers been great, right, Bengals at home? Right,

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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow's playing as of now? Does he play in

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Speaker 1: two weeks? I don't know. Buccaneers again at home, winnable game,

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Speaker 1: Patriots on the road. But the Patriots may have clinched

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Speaker 1: the number one seed. They may have been playing all

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Speaker 1: the Patriots backups in that game. It's it's possible at least,

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Speaker 1: so it's not over. But here here's the point that

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Speaker 1: at years I'm gonna put on my coaching hat for

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Speaker 1: a second. Who are the players that were on the

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Speaker 1: Dolphins to start the year who are not on the

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Speaker 1: Dolphins now?

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Speaker 2: The other one? Would they trade away Jalen Ramsey?

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Speaker 1: Ah ah huh? Are those guys seen as good or

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Speaker 1: bad culture guys?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not. They're not.

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Speaker 1: I'm just telling you, like, yeah, I'm just telling you

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Speaker 1: that I had been told, and we talked about this

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Speaker 1: a little on the on the radio, that there is

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Speaker 1: a group that the the masses in Miami, the players

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Speaker 1: were like, those guys aren't about winning, aren't about winning?

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Speaker 1: And I think they kept the guys that are playing

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Speaker 1: the guys that are about winning, and whether or not

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Speaker 1: they get to the playoffs or not, they'll probably get

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Speaker 1: to five hundred, maybe above and hope maybe above nine

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Speaker 1: and eight. There is something about culture character over talent.

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Speaker 1: Gotta have some talent, but you can't do it if

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Speaker 1: you don't have character.

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Speaker 10: Sam, remember when Baker Mayfield was a trendy MVP candidate

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Speaker 10: earlier in this season. Well, the Buccaneers have lost four

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Speaker 10: of the last five, and their most recent loss was

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Speaker 10: the bottoming out with a loss against the Saints. I

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Speaker 10: don't really know, just only on surface level. I know

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Speaker 10: what's going on with this Buccaneers team. If you guys

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Speaker 10: have further explanation, I can, yeah, Dan, tell me what's

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Speaker 10: going on with these Buccaneers, Dan.

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Speaker 2: So the injuries have ended up catching up with them

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Speaker 2: a bit. Mike Evans has been out since Week seven.

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Speaker 2: Bucky Irving missed a significant portion of the season, but

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Speaker 2: a Mecca Buca has had an issue with draw slately.

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Speaker 2: Tristan Wurf's missed this past weekend's game against the Saints.

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Speaker 2: Chris Godwin is finally back into the fold, but he's

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Speaker 2: not the Chris Godwin of old, and their defense is

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Speaker 2: not as good, not nearly as good. You have Videvea

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Speaker 2: in the middle, but you can throw on them all

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Speaker 2: day long, and Tyler Schuck did that this past weekend

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Speaker 2: on that all day long. It was in a rainstorm,

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Speaker 2: but still the Saints converted keith or downs in their game.

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Speaker 2: Saints had no business winning that game. They were eight

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Speaker 2: and a half point underdog, and they basically played even

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Speaker 2: with the Buccaneers, who got in their own way, couldn't

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Speaker 2: convert fourth thounds, were two of five for ones that

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Speaker 2: really mattered. Yeah, just they're a mess right now.

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Speaker 10: And it's uh and they have the Panthers twice, they

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Speaker 10: have the Dolphins, So you just spoke about who were

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Speaker 10: playing much better. So even getting the postseason seems like

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Speaker 10: it's kind of cloudy right now.

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Speaker 2: And who is that guy they were missing?

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Speaker 10: Was it this guy they meet, a big boat man,

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Speaker 10: they need him back real bad.

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Speaker 2: Well they have him back. It's he's had a case

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Speaker 2: of the drops, all the drop sets.

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Speaker 10: Well, those Buccaneers, I remember that there was some play

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Speaker 10: the Baker made where he picked up a first down.

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Speaker 2: I forgot what game that was against.

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Speaker 10: But they have some nice wins on the resume, but

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Speaker 10: four out of five they've lost, so a little worried

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Speaker 10: about them.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to Jason Stewart.

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Speaker 4: I'll take it from here. The Washington Commanders have my

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Speaker 4: attention today and this is going to entail a visual.

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Speaker 4: So I was able to send you guys on the

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Speaker 4: group text the picture, and Shapiro gave me access to

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Speaker 4: send a text message to everybody who's listening right now.

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Speaker 4: So you should have a text message on your phone

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Speaker 4: if you're a listener. It is a picture of the predictions. Now,

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Speaker 4: you know, I hate predictions, but these are kind of fun.

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Speaker 4: Dan Bayer every single year in the studio puts a

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Speaker 4: chart of things for us to kind of predict the

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Speaker 4: NFL season. So in early September I wrote down the

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Speaker 4: following that my pick to go out on a limb,

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Speaker 4: you know, go on a limb, take a chance, like,

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Speaker 4: have some balls, and go on a limb and predict something.

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Speaker 4: My pick was that the Commanders were not going to

515
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Speaker 4: make the playoffs. Now through their prism of today, you're like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: they suck their quarterbacks hasn't made good. But no, no, no, no.

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Speaker 4: They were the darlings of the offseason they were the Darlins.

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Speaker 4: In fact, all the people that talk that have NFL

519
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Speaker 4: content on their description on their Twitter handle was saying,

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Speaker 4: if we redrafted the twenty twenty four quarterback class, Jaden

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Speaker 4: Daniels by far is the number one pick in that draft,

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Speaker 4: Jade and Daniels And I know what you're thinking, listeners

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Speaker 4: as you're looking at this picture. But Jaden Daniels has

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Speaker 4: been injured. Yeah, no kidding. If that wasn't the one

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Speaker 4: thing that most scouts had an issue with coming into

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Speaker 4: the NFL. There are videos on Twitter and YouTube of

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Speaker 4: him getting his ass kicked at Arizona State and LSU

528
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Speaker 4: because he can't take hits because he steps into the

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Speaker 4: wrong hits. If only we could have predicted this, h well,

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Speaker 4: I did. They're not going to make the playoffs. I

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Speaker 4: think it's official. I think they're mathematically eliminated. And I

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Speaker 4: do want to I do want to mention one thing

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Speaker 4: I've been big on John Schneider. As Dan has avoid

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Speaker 4: talking about the Seahawks for the past several weeks, my

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Speaker 4: thing has been John Schneider has been out in front

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Speaker 4: of a lot of decisions. You know you don't want it,

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Speaker 4: you want to let a player or a coach go

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Speaker 4: a year before instead of a year after. And he

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Speaker 4: was right on Russell Wilson. He was right on Geno Smith,

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Speaker 4: he was right on Pete Carroll. He was even right

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Speaker 4: on DK Metcalf. He's like, I have a number one,

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Speaker 4: and that number one is the best receiver in the NFL.

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Speaker 4: And I will also say this, they chose Mike McDonald

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Speaker 4: over Dan Quinn. They could have brought back Dan quinn.

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Speaker 4: They chose Mike McDonald, And who could ever forget that?

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Speaker 4: I keep forgetting, keep keep forgetting that. Mike McDonald's gonna.

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Speaker 2: By the way, did you guys see the updated picture

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Speaker 2: that was sent in that group text? Did you? Were

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Speaker 2: you able to get the updated picture in that one?

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Speaker 2: I'm sure? Yeah, yeah. So it's so just an updated

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Speaker 2: picture of the standings because five spots above Jason's So

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Speaker 2: those picks were made sooner? Was me writing commanders missed

553
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Speaker 2: playoffs and out on a limb boom? I just yes,

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Speaker 2: it is also so I am I am in lockstep.

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Speaker 10: I like how you guys used commander's colors kind of too,

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Speaker 10: some some red and yellow.

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Speaker 2: Yes, all that looks like my handwriting? Did I? Did? I?

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Speaker 2: Put all that in for you.

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Speaker 1: I don't get I thought I filled one out.

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Speaker 2: But Jason, but Doug, where are you dugged? Doug? You

561
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Speaker 2: were here like three times.

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Speaker 1: But I was here. I was there right when you

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Speaker 1: guys had this, and it was kind of like it

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Speaker 1: was almost like you didn't want me to participates.

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Speaker 2: That's exactly what Sam was like, We've got to figure

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Speaker 2: out a way to box Dug out of this. Doug.

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Speaker 10: You could have radioed in your your picks.

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Speaker 1: By the way rocket Ishmail did when the trophy. That's me,

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Speaker 1: I'm a dope, TI debtmer want.

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Speaker 11: It my bad?

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Speaker 1: I can we can we talk about how the Raiders

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Speaker 1: are once again an abject disaster, and like, look, this

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Speaker 1: would happen six coaches in six years. That's there, six

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Speaker 1: coaches in six years. This is You walk into a

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Speaker 1: house that used to be beautiful, right, built in the

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Speaker 1: nineteen twenties, it's got unbelievable architecture, it's got great bones,

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Speaker 1: and then somebody came in. They're like, I'm gonna fix

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Speaker 1: this bad boy up. And then a year in they're like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we don't like that contractor you know one of his

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Speaker 1: subsistance shows. I get another one, and another one, another one,

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Speaker 1: and like no rooms look the same, and why the

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Speaker 1: hell we hang on to Max Crosby? Like Max Crosby

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Speaker 1: is an elite football player, He's a ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: Good, good football player.

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Speaker 1: Frock Bowers is an unbelievable football player. But putting those

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Speaker 1: two out there with what else we got going is

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Speaker 1: just I don't know, Like there was over the last

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Speaker 1: one d two years. The now Las Vegas Raiders have

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Speaker 1: had double digit winning seasons twice twice commitment to excellence

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Speaker 1: or excrement. They are bad and obviously the first thing

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Speaker 1: they need to do is find a quarterback. Find a quarterback,

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Speaker 1: but there's so many other holes, right, It's like, hey,

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Speaker 1: let's go fix up the kitchen, Like yeah, but the

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Speaker 1: what about the flooring? You know, what about everything? It's

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Speaker 1: what a mess? And I understood what you were doing

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Speaker 1: with Pete Carroll, right, you took an inexperienced guy in

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Speaker 1: Antonio Pierce. Now you get a super experienced guy. But

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Speaker 1: this is a rebuild, And yeah, it's a lot to

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Speaker 1: think that Pete Carroll at seventy four years old is

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Speaker 1: in it for a rebuild.

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Speaker 2: You gotta have the bones, gotta.

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Speaker 1: Have the bones. It's Tuesday Morning Quarterback in afternoon, Tuesday, Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: Uh, that's our our guy. Matt money Smith with the call.

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Speaker 1: The big story of the day is former Chargers quarterback

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Speaker 1: Philip Rivers has signed with the Indianapolis Colts as their

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Speaker 1: practice squad quarterback. This was yesterday thirty five PM on

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Speaker 1: the Doug Gottlieb Show with me and former Chargers GM

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Speaker 1: Tom Telesco. Okay, the signing was reported at five point fifteen,

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Speaker 1: so an hour and a half later. Here's our exchange

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Speaker 1: on this very show. Here we are, we're a December eighth.

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Speaker 1: You've been in a similar situation where I gotta find

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Speaker 1: a quarterback here you know who's on the street, and

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Speaker 1: I got a potential playoff team. What's this? What's the process?

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Speaker 8: Like?

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Speaker 1: How does it work well?

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Speaker 12: At this point? Since you're past the trade deadline, you're

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Speaker 12: really your only chance. It's gonna have to be somebody

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Speaker 12: from your own roster at this at this point, unless

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Speaker 12: the street who's been in a Shane Steak spike in

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Speaker 12: offense before, I'd have to look it up for the

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Speaker 12: chances they're slim so well, I mean, you're.

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Speaker 1: Gonna gonna call Philip Rivers get him out of retirement.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I don't know if you've seen Phillip recently. I

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Speaker 12: mean he's coaching high school football I think right now,

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Speaker 12: so I think that may not work well.

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Speaker 1: They signed him. The guys were chuckling because I sent

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Speaker 1: them a meme I saw on social media that has

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Speaker 1: Philip Rivers at Seattle like a fantasy football sort of logo.

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Speaker 1: The over under is one hundred and twenty seven and

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Speaker 1: a half pass yards and there's a picture of Joe

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Speaker 1: Biden in a Colts jersey. It is fantastic. Whoever did that,

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Speaker 1: it is fantastic, fantastic And the best part is it

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Speaker 1: made all three of you guys smile. Right, that's the

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Speaker 1: idea of sports and social media. Stuck gott Leap Show

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Speaker 1: here on Fox Sports Radio. Let's welcome in John Mettlcoff

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Speaker 1: and a finalist host of the Three and Out podcast.

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Speaker 1: What's gone so wrong with the Philadelphia Eagles?

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Speaker 3: That's a great question. I mean last night was a

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Speaker 3: combination of everything. You know, Jalen's turnovers. The first two

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Speaker 3: were really bad, obviously, you know, AJ had the drop

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Speaker 3: that turned into one and the last play I'd say

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Speaker 3: is a great defensive play as much as a bad,

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Speaker 3: bad path. I'd give the defense all the credit on

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Speaker 3: that one. So you got the quarterback off. AJ talked

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Speaker 3: the big game. I mean, that wasn't exactly his you know,

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Speaker 3: most glorious moment last night. He dropped the touchdown, had

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Speaker 3: a pick. It was because of him. You know, the

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Speaker 3: play callings when you get into a game like that

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Speaker 3: with the quarterback who's injured, with an offensive line who's terrible,

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Speaker 3: and a team that just wants to be grimy. You know,

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Speaker 3: the Eagles tried to play like they had Josh Allen

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Speaker 3: or Joe Burrell playing and passed the ball around the yard,

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Speaker 3: Like why didn't they have forty carries last night with

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Speaker 3: Saquon And every time on first down right they get stuffed,

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Speaker 3: It's like, oh, they're just going to go past pass.

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Speaker 3: And I just think that that's the type game. If

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Speaker 3: you reversed it and Jim Harbaugh was the coach, Saque

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Speaker 3: would have had forty carries. And I get the offensive

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Speaker 3: wise not as good as last year. They have clearly injuries,

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Speaker 3: got backups in there, but.

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Speaker 1: He's averaging six point one yards to carry. Give him

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Speaker 1: the ball.

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Speaker 3: It's insane. And in the moment too last night where

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Speaker 3: the Chargers they they run that take push push, he

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Speaker 3: takes the house. He goes like fifty miles an hour,

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Speaker 3: so like, okay, you know this guy still got some

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Speaker 3: stuff to him. They then they force a punt, they

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Speaker 3: get the ball back, they're up sixteen to thirteen. The

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Speaker 3: Chargers are in major trouble and they start passing the

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Speaker 3: ball and two plays later the ball goes off aged

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Speaker 3: his hands and it's the interception. It's like, what are

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Speaker 3: you doing here? And that Jim's won a lot of

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Speaker 3: games that are ugly over the course of his career.

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Speaker 3: That was pretty impressive given his offensive line. You know,

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Speaker 3: his quarterback. I don't know about you, but how many

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Speaker 3: times you hold your breast thinking to like, did he

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Speaker 3: break his hand more when he's lying on the ground.

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Speaker 1: It was, it was, It was crazy. It's insane. But

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Speaker 1: somehow the Chargers found a way, which is the opposite

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Speaker 1: of traditional Charger football.

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Speaker 8: Isn't it.

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Speaker 3: It's Hardbaugh Herbert toughness. The defense is obviously pretty pretty gritty.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Khalil, you know, it's still a really good player,

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Speaker 3: will have many years into his career. I mean, he's

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Speaker 3: you know, they that's a good personnel move, right, They

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Speaker 3: they kept him around. They got rid of Joey Bosa

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Speaker 3: and they reinvested into him and Khalil Mack is a

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Speaker 3: big time difference maker and their physicality on defense. I mean,

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Speaker 3: but the Eagles defense was excellent too. I mean, if

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Speaker 3: I'm if I'm one of the Eagles defenders, I'm like,

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Speaker 3: what are we doing? Well, We're dominating this game. How

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Speaker 3: are we losing it? And it's like, well yet ten turnovers?

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Speaker 1: Ten turnovers?

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Speaker 3: Show the double turnover? I mean, it's an Alzheimer, isn't it?

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Speaker 1: Alzheimer? Alzheimer never say anything like it. I thought it

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Speaker 1: was a Marlon McCree play. And then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: US Hurdge fumbles it. Hedge fumbles it as well. You

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Speaker 1: do a lot of gambling. Okay, everybody is up in

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Speaker 1: arms and you talk a lot of gambling on the

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Speaker 1: three and Now podcast as well. The only thing I

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Speaker 1: can think of with Pete Carroll kicking that field goal

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Speaker 1: was you're just trying to keep it close and it

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Speaker 1: looks better on the scoreboard. Right here's Pete Carroll explaining

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Speaker 1: why he would kick a field goal to make it

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Speaker 1: a seven point game with five seconds to go.

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Speaker 11: I can't bend and twist and go with whatever the

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Speaker 11: public sentiment is, or one person sentiment for that matter,

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Speaker 11: regardless of who it is. I just can't do that

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Speaker 11: and do my job the right way to the best

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Speaker 11: of my ability.

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Speaker 2: So if you notice it, I was.

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Speaker 11: I was battling with the official making a plea for

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Speaker 11: because we saw eight second seven, which would have given

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Speaker 11: us a chance to kick the field goal, kicking on

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Speaker 11: site kick and maybe have a second left. And then

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Speaker 11: when it went down to five or went down to

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Speaker 11: three or whatever they did, and then they put it

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Speaker 11: back to five whatever, then I knew it was going

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Speaker 11: to look stupid, like you couldn't.

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Speaker 2: Figure out why we were doing it.

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Speaker 11: So there was a real clear thought what we were

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Speaker 11: trying to get down there, just to take it down

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Speaker 11: to the very last click. It might not be good

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Speaker 11: enough for you. I understand that, but that's what I think.

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Speaker 11: You could see what we were trying to do. It

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Speaker 11: just didn't work out.

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Speaker 1: Do you think there's is Do you believe in the

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Speaker 1: conspiracy theory that he was trying to stick it to

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Speaker 1: the Broncos and so they didn't.

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Speaker 3: Cover I kind of believe what he's saying there. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I think at this point in time, the Raiders are

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Speaker 3: down so bad. You know, every point like a point

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Speaker 3: of pride for them. You know, I think Pete Carroll's

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Speaker 3: at the point he's so rich he couldn't even be

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Speaker 3: bought if they tried. I truly believe, you know, it's

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Speaker 3: always compete, you know, it makes sense, right, He's hoping

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Speaker 3: they're closer to ten seconds and maybe they got a

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Speaker 3: freak chance to take a field goal and then throw

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Speaker 3: a bomb. Now clearly once it's like he explained, I

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Speaker 3: hadn't even heard his audio, but it does make more

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Speaker 3: sense than just I wasn't really watching it live. It

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Speaker 3: was on one of the other TV's, but I mean

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Speaker 3: that game was a joke, and then I watching the replay,

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Speaker 3: it was kind of embarrassing, But I do understand what

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Speaker 3: he's saying, you could argue the reference he's calling the

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Speaker 3: delay of game or whatever was under tens Like, what

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Speaker 3: are we doing? Just get out of there.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, it was it was crazy. What what's happened?

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson?

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Speaker 3: Well, clearly he's injured because physically he doesn't look right,

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Speaker 3: you know, And I think anytime you see this a

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Speaker 3: lot in the NBA, right, like a freak athlete when

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Speaker 3: they're not moving right, You're like, something's a little off.

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Speaker 3: And you know, he's been banged up throughout the year

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Speaker 3: and a huge part of his game is predicated on

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Speaker 3: the movement, on the running around, and it's just it's

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Speaker 3: just not there. And you can tell from a dynamic

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Speaker 3: standpoint he looks a shell of himself. And then he's

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Speaker 3: not playing well on top of that, and they just

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Speaker 3: they just look off. And I mean that was I

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Speaker 3: mean they were down twenty to nine at one point

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Speaker 3: in that game. I mean, Rogers clearly kind of was

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Speaker 3: a throwback game for him. It looked pretty good. And yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean obviously they needed a little you know, referee,

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Speaker 3: whether the letter is a law, I mean forever when

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Speaker 3: we were kids. Obviously, the basketball rule is the best, right,

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Speaker 3: it's two guys with the sideline. Whether you're playing in

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Speaker 3: the NBA or whether you're playing a pickup game, you

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Speaker 3: always knew, okay, it's your ball. And now the slow

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Speaker 3: motion replay, it's like, oh, Mike, what it's off his fingernail.

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Speaker 3: It's no different with the Cats, Like historically, of course

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Speaker 3: that's a catch's touchdown. But I do think with technology

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Speaker 3: we have almost overcomplicated the game in parts that used

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Speaker 3: to be a no brainer, like that's a touchdown. You

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Speaker 3: move on.

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Speaker 1: Stut Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. The Packers

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Speaker 1: beat the Bears, did you learn more about the Packers

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Speaker 1: or the Bears?

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm I picked Packers and go to Super Bowl, so, like,

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Speaker 3: I know, their high ends pretty high. I mean, Jordan's

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Speaker 3: playing well, Watson coming back has really changed and he's

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Speaker 3: got five touchdowns in four games. He looks so fast. So,

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Speaker 3: I mean all the pressure was on Green Bay. I mean,

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Speaker 3: you had to win that game at home, and they

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Speaker 3: were at fourteen to three. They came out out ready.

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Speaker 3: It was impressive. I learned a lot about the Bears.

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Speaker 3: I mean that seventeen play, nine minute drive in a

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Speaker 3: spot where you had to have it with some of

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Speaker 3: those play calls by Ben and you know, Caleb's making

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Speaker 3: a lot of plays on the move. You know, it

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Speaker 3: was it was really impressive, and you know, I think

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Speaker 3: part of the reasons I like the Broncos this week,

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Speaker 3: can green Bay match that level for three straight weeks?

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Speaker 3: I mean that was that was a war zone game

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Speaker 3: really for both teams. Same thing with Chicago. You know,

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Speaker 3: now they're a little lucky they get the Browns, but

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Speaker 3: if Chicago was playing a you know, a good team,

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Speaker 3: I'd be like, it's coming off that game that they

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Speaker 3: takes a lot out of you for both teams, and

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Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be a tough spot for green

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Speaker 3: Bay going on the road knowing they got Chicago the

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Speaker 3: following week that if they if they if they sweep them,

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Speaker 3: they're in pretty good shape.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: So if you told them at the beginning of this

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Speaker 3: three game stretch, hey you're gonna go you know, two

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Speaker 3: and one, they would pick the two Bears games, right.

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Speaker 3: So I'm a little interested to watch green Bay and

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Speaker 3: Chicago like that. That's a game you know forever it

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Speaker 3: was like if you played the Lions the next week.

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Speaker 3: A couple of years ago you would get boat raced.

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Speaker 3: It happened with the forty nine Ers a couple of

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Speaker 3: years ago too, just because those games physically take so

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Speaker 3: much out of you. And that was I'm glad the

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Speaker 3: Bears are good because that game was That was theater.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that was that second half was as good

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Speaker 3: a football game as you're gonna watch.

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Speaker 1: That was great high level NFL football games. Doug Gottlieb

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Speaker 1: Show on Fox Sports Radio. For my money, you can't

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Speaker 1: have Shador Sanders next year unless he's going to be

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Speaker 1: the starter, and you don't draft somebody in the first round,

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Speaker 1: right because there's just too much noise that follows him.

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Speaker 1: Is that is that a fair statement?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean you're not going to draft a guy

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Speaker 3: two overall and have Shador Sanders and you know at

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Speaker 3: the backup, right right.

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Speaker 1: I mean he could be a backup, but all the

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Speaker 1: noise that follows him, you can't. It doesn't work, right,

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Speaker 1: It'll always well undercase, it's like.

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Speaker 3: What are you going to have a quarterback petitioner? He's

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Speaker 3: going to give it to the first rounder than everyone's

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Speaker 3: the first round.

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Speaker 1: That's yeah, right, Okay, Uh, where are you in the idea?

862
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 1: Of he's going to be the starter long term.

863
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:15,360
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I definitely think it depends where they land.

864
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 3: I also think, you know, Shador listened. I mean, he

865
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 3: was a better prospect in most people's mind. I would

866
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,800
Speaker 3: imagine if you pulled most NFL gms still and Gabriels

867
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 3: like a borderline undrafted free agent. So I think the

868
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 3: indictment on the Browns is like, you guys pulled the

869
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 3: trigger on a third round pick, which is pretty powerful,

870
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 3: and you took a guy that most teams would have

871
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,320
Speaker 3: been like, this guy does not near talented enough, and

872
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:42,359
Speaker 3: then we watched him play and I'm like, I don't know, man,

873
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 3: this is kind of crazy. So now we're going to

874
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 3: give you guys the juice to do it again, you know,

875
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 3: on a really really high pick. I mean if I

876
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 3: was and listen, it doesn't happen very often anymore, but

877
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 3: I would be if if I'm like Fernando Mendoza, I

878
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 3: am not going to Cleveland. You know, it's one of

879
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 3: those where you got to l Way or an Eli, like,

880
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:04,319
Speaker 3: I'm not messing with that, And you could argue all

881
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 3: the teams that are going to be in the mix,

882
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 3: like it's like do you want to go play? I mean,

883
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 3: this sounds crazy because he's a legendary guy, but this

884
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 3: Pete Carroll situation, I don't want that. I mean these teams, like,

885
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:16,839
Speaker 3: I want no part of any of these teams. Draft

886
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 3: and High. So you know, Chador is clearly an upgrade

887
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 3: over Dylan Gabriel. We'll see. You know, there is a

888
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:25,399
Speaker 3: big and a lot of people paying attention to this week.

889
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:28,319
Speaker 3: He's playing games, getting a lot of eyeballs. You keep

890
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 3: making explosive plays. I mean the one throw that he

891
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 3: made to Judy for the touchdown. No Judy was opened

892
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 3: behind the defenders, but it was a dry throw, like

893
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:37,360
Speaker 3: it was really nice. He's always been able to have

894
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 3: those touch throws in the end zone. Like Shador has

895
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:42,840
Speaker 3: a lot of touch. He just got to be careful. Sometimes.

896
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 3: I think he thinks he's like Caleb Williams and he

897
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:46,760
Speaker 3: tries to run away and it doesn't really work because

898
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 3: he's not He's not his father. So that was a

899
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,360
Speaker 3: pretty promise and I get it some Titans, but relative

900
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 3: to what they were used to with Dylan Gabriel, it's like, yeah,

901
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 3: I mean Shador the Deshaun Watson story breaking last weekend

902
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 3: too was kind of weird, like what Cleveland is just

903
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:01,840
Speaker 3: a mess?

904
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's stop breaking news that Clive is mess. Last thing?

905
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 1: What's the chances Philip Rivers takes a snap this year?

906
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 3: How awesome is it? Can you what time do you

907
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 3: think if his workout was at nine o'clock this morning?

908
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:16,879
Speaker 3: Do you think he was like in the hotel gym

909
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 3: stretching of six am? Yes, I mean he approached this

910
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 3: thing like the super Bowl, and that's why we all

911
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 3: love him, I think, really, I I mean, obviously DJ's

912
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 3: gone is the answer. Richardon on injured reserve and I

913
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 3: saw Sike and said yesterday part of the reason why

914
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:34,720
Speaker 3: I was like, why are they doing? Is Riley Leonards injured?

915
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 3: So it shows you in which I respect, Like, don't

916
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 3: go sign some you know Deadmond Ritter.

917
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 1: You you can't. You have to sign someone who knows

918
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 1: the system.

919
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, this guy, it turns out Phillipson running it with

920
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:50,840
Speaker 3: his high school team right and him and Shane or Boys.

921
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 3: I mean they've known each other right forever. Now, I

922
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 3: mean he wasn't moving well whatever four or five years ago.

923
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 3: This you know, this will league where you kind of

924
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:03,439
Speaker 3: got to move there aren't many statutes anymore, and he's

925
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 3: never had the greatest arm. I would imagine if he

926
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 3: was throwing eighty eight, what's he throwing now eighty two?

927
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 3: It's I you better be careful, you know, It's just

928
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:15,839
Speaker 3: you could get injured those bones. There's no way he's

929
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 3: been training the same. I respect it, and I get

930
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 3: the Colts, but it could also be kind of something

931
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:23,760
Speaker 3: scary could happen.

932
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 2: I mean, he could see that.

933
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 1: That's actually what a GM friend of mine was like,

934
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 1: this might not be safe. My thing is, I think

935
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 1: they brought him in. He may play a game. I

936
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:33,720
Speaker 1: don't think he can play multiple games, but he becomes

937
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 1: the quarterback whisper to whoever is actually the quarterback, because

938
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 1: he knows this thing cold and like the de facto

939
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:42,359
Speaker 1: quarterback coach for whoever is actually out there.

940
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 3: This thing is unraveling on that. I mean for a

941
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:47,360
Speaker 3: team that you know, traded two first round picks for

942
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:50,839
Speaker 3: soft Gardener, obviously he's injured their quarterback situation. I mean

943
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:54,360
Speaker 3: you start looking at that that schedule, you go, is

944
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 3: this team gonna finish eight to nine? I mean, even

945
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 3: if the Rivers started, honestly, they could be worse with

946
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 3: rivers than they would Eiley Leonard right. So it's kind

947
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,240
Speaker 3: of I mean, I don't remember a turn of events

948
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 3: that you go, oh, this thing is one thing to

949
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 3: lose and finish, you know, bad, like the Eagles right

950
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 3: now or a couple of years ago. But to not

951
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:16,320
Speaker 3: have your first round picks, that's pretty that's a The

952
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:18,439
Speaker 3: Jets got to be feeling pretty good about that trade

953
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 3: right now, don't they.

954
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 1: Yes, they do. That's that's our guy, John Mitlecoff. You

955
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 1: can check out the Three and Out podcast the Volume

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Speaker 1: Podcast Network. John, thanks so much for joining us