WEBVTT - Trysta offers up her All NBA Dawg teams

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<v Speaker 1>On this episode of the Heat Check, let's do something different.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody's thinking about March Madness, everybody's thinking about college basketball.

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<v Speaker 1>But I want to talk about.

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<v Speaker 2>Some dogs, hungry dogs in the NBA, undrafted guys who

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<v Speaker 2>played their way into the league. I just think it

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<v Speaker 2>makes sense considering that, like, there are gonna be guys

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<v Speaker 2>who play well in this tournaments and they will not

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<v Speaker 2>go drafted, and then they will end up being on

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<v Speaker 2>your favorite team or the irritant against your favorite team.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll also cover some news from around the league, and

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<v Speaker 2>we also have an interview with Robin Lumberg of Sports Illustrated. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>that folks got a cash infusion. He's here to fill

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<v Speaker 2>us in on what's popping. Anthony, come on, let's drop

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<v Speaker 2>that motherfucker beat the Shirihana.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey that an episode without talking about the Lakers or

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<v Speaker 1>the Warriors. Good for us.

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<v Speaker 2>It feels like every single episode starts with like how

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<v Speaker 2>they're doing, and like what is going on with the

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<v Speaker 2>roster or with the coaching staff or something like some

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<v Speaker 2>news peace pops, some sort of reporting pops. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean they're fighting for their fucking life. You know who

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<v Speaker 2>else is fuck fighting for their fucking life. These hungry

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<v Speaker 2>dogs are fighting for their life. What do I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>So anyway, I did a social clip recently yesterday on

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<v Speaker 2>Keon Ellis of the Sacramento Kings. Check it out on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 2>He had five blocks off the bench the other night.

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<v Speaker 2>He has been bawling for the Kings the past ten games.

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<v Speaker 2>I like a ton about Ellis Island aka Killer key

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<v Speaker 2>On aka in a falsettle because he's got that good D.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying, good D? Pause? But what

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<v Speaker 1>do I like about Keon?

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<v Speaker 2>He was an undrafted player who is known for his

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<v Speaker 2>defensive intensity at Alabama and he made the All Defensive

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<v Speaker 2>team as a senior. There is a trend here and

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen it with others, and so we got into

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<v Speaker 2>the lab and dissected whether you could find those hungry

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<v Speaker 2>dogs and how well they're doing in the NBA Right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Not enough people are talking about these types of players,

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<v Speaker 2>the guys that may not get everyone's attention because they

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<v Speaker 2>can't score, but what they bring to the table translates

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<v Speaker 2>to the next level.

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<v Speaker 1>So what is this hungry dog type of a player?

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<v Speaker 1>What are these dogs the NBA?

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<v Speaker 2>They're undrafted players, mostly defensive minded pests who has a

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<v Speaker 2>trip on their shoulder and they have earned everything along

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<v Speaker 2>the way, they have been given nothing, and that will

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<v Speaker 2>not leave their shoulder the chip.

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<v Speaker 1>I was thinking about it today.

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<v Speaker 2>I watched a clip I will not share with you,

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<v Speaker 2>but I was like, oh, I am a hungry dog.

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<v Speaker 1>These other dogs, these.

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<v Speaker 2>Are Kennel AKC Kennel certified show dogs and me, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not related to anybody. I don't know anybody that's been

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<v Speaker 2>in the business or played any sport of any kind.

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<v Speaker 2>I have to literally take a piece of scrap off

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<v Speaker 2>the kennel and fight other dogs for it, and they

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<v Speaker 2>do too.

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<v Speaker 1>So I love these guys.

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<v Speaker 2>We're talking about guys who hassle opponents, full court press,

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<v Speaker 2>ninety four feet, feisty in the paint, causing chaos on

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<v Speaker 2>the court, probably yelling at their coaches, probably yelling at

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<v Speaker 2>their gms, probably yelling at their teammates. Pat Beverly is

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<v Speaker 2>the archetype of this player. People forget that Patrick Beverly

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<v Speaker 2>washed out at Arkansas, did not get drafted, had to

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<v Speaker 2>play four years overseas, four years before getting a shot

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<v Speaker 2>with the Rockets, and using his defensive intensity and his

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<v Speaker 2>strap like defense and annoying behavior to make a career

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<v Speaker 2>that still is alive and well. Today, the Milwaukee Bucks

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<v Speaker 2>traded for Pat Beverly simply because they had no dogs

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<v Speaker 2>on that squad. And this is a team that's a

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<v Speaker 2>championship contender. So let's look at the past ten drafts,

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<v Speaker 2>this year being excluded, as it takes sometimes for puppies

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<v Speaker 2>to emerge into full junkyard dogs, and I think that

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<v Speaker 2>they become more easy to spot than you think. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>undrafted rookies who hustle all game long, who harass and

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<v Speaker 2>hassle other players into making dumb mistakes, who love to

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<v Speaker 2>get into the mud and get their hands dirty. If

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<v Speaker 2>Keon Ellis is the hungry dog of the twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 2>two draft, then the twenty twenty one drafts has two

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<v Speaker 2>of them, Jose Alvarado and Austin Reeves. Austin Reeves h

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<v Speaker 2>so much that he makes Larry Bird look lazy. He

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<v Speaker 2>may not be like the best defender, but he hustles,

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<v Speaker 2>he tries. Jose Alvarado, he is on another level. Jose

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<v Speaker 2>Alvarado is like a miniature pincher. He'll beat the shit,

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<v Speaker 2>he will bite the shit out of you. Here's what

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<v Speaker 2>Pell's coach Willie Green said. The band they call Grand

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<v Speaker 2>Theft Alverado GTA. He said this, he's extremely unique. I

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<v Speaker 2>say this jokingly, but it's kind of true. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know anyone in the NBA who is six feet and

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<v Speaker 2>under this nice. All those guys are kind of like

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<v Speaker 2>Chihuaha was. They bite you, they bark, They're ready to

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<v Speaker 2>fight at anytime. That way makes That's what makes Jose unique.

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<v Speaker 2>He's that way.

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<v Speaker 1>To make it to this level, you kind of sort

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<v Speaker 1>of have to have that.

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<v Speaker 2>What did I tell you, hungry small bark in chihuah

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<v Speaker 2>was out there fucking shit up, waiting to pick your pocket,

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<v Speaker 2>waiting to make you look, waiting to get their shines

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<v Speaker 2>that they get paid.

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<v Speaker 1>The twenty twenty draft.

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<v Speaker 2>Gave us Naji Marshall, who is a dog down of

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<v Speaker 2>New Orleans, playing hard nosed defense, still getting seven four

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<v Speaker 2>and two and nineteen minutes alongside Herb Jones, a second

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<v Speaker 2>round picker. He'd be on the Hungry.

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<v Speaker 1>Dog list as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Alvarado in New Orleans man our man Griff has a type.

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<v Speaker 1>He likes those junk yard dogs.

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<v Speaker 2>They come cheap from the beginning, too good good type

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<v Speaker 2>of assets when you're building a roster full of dudes

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<v Speaker 2>that you have to pay a lot of money to,

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<v Speaker 2>like Brandon Ingram, CJ.

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<v Speaker 1>Mccollin, and Zion Williamson. The twenty nineteen draft is a

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<v Speaker 1>huge draft for hungry dogs. We get lou Dort. There

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<v Speaker 1>no one wants to play lou Dort.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw lou Dort and a T shirt once. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>he's like, he's like if ray Rice, how about this? No,

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<v Speaker 2>He's like if ray Lewis decided to play basketball. He's

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<v Speaker 2>like if ray Lewis decided he was going to shooting

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<v Speaker 2>guard and then learn how to shoot a jumper from three.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like if Miles Garrett decided he was gonna play basketball.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty nineteen also gives us Caleb Martin. He's made a

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<v Speaker 2>career down in Miami as a dog off the bench.

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<v Speaker 2>There's nas Reed, who's a nightmare off the bench. Just

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<v Speaker 2>signed a huge contract with the Wolves. And guess what

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<v Speaker 2>these dogs are getting paid. Twenty eighteen gave us Heywood,

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<v Speaker 2>Heismith and gave Vincent both heat guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you sense a trend here? Do you sense a

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<v Speaker 1>trend here?

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<v Speaker 2>Miami is a breeding ground for the Dogs, Duop Reid

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<v Speaker 2>out in Portland who's quietly becoming a monster.

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<v Speaker 1>Lsu All Defense.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty seventeen produced Chris Bouchet, who barked.

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<v Speaker 1>All his way to a title in Toronto.

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<v Speaker 2>But twenty sixteen, Folks is the biggest year for the

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<v Speaker 2>Hungry Dogs, with a quartet of dudes who define what

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<v Speaker 2>a hungry dog is. Alex Caruso the Goat aka the

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<v Speaker 2>Janitor might be the best armball defender in the NBA.

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<v Speaker 2>Derek Jones Junior, who has athleticism oozing out of his.

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<v Speaker 1>Pores, found a home in Dallas.

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<v Speaker 2>Gary Payton the second, Gary Peyton, the third, Gary Payton

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<v Speaker 2>the second Gary Payton the second, who went healthy as

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<v Speaker 2>a top five defender in the league, really bounced around

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<v Speaker 2>for almost forever, kept that tenacity just like a junkyard

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<v Speaker 2>dog will have. You can't hold them down. It's just

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<v Speaker 2>a matter of time before they escape your kennel. And

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<v Speaker 2>then the King of hungry Dogs, Fred van Fleet, who

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<v Speaker 2>parlayed his Chihuahua status to the tune in three years

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<v Speaker 2>and one hundred and twenty eight million dollars and.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not even fully healthy. He's a hungry dog with

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<v Speaker 1>this way back.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty fifteen gives this TJ McConnell, who's set an NBA record.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, he does have back problem, so it's

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<v Speaker 2>like a total positive.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess a real comparison anyway. Twenty fifteen gives a TJ.

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<v Speaker 2>Connell who set an NBA record with nine steals in

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<v Speaker 2>one half. Twenty fourteen as Maxi Klaiba, who went undrafted

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<v Speaker 2>and parlayed that into a fifty million dollar career so far.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty thirteen had Roco and Matthew della Vedofa. Roco is

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<v Speaker 2>the only HPCU alumnus in the league in Deli. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>come on, this guy was a hungry dog in Europe

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<v Speaker 2>and parlayed that to the league into Cleveland to.

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<v Speaker 1>Get a championship.

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<v Speaker 2>Then he hooked on with Lebron who absolutely loves hungry

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<v Speaker 2>dogs and gets them paid hungry dogs everywhere. No akc

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<v Speaker 2>papers like these purebred dookies and Jayhawks.

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<v Speaker 1>Ugh, we don't like those. We don't like those blue

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<v Speaker 1>blood purebread dogs.

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<v Speaker 3>Eugh.

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<v Speaker 1>You push them around a little bit and they squeal.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't like that. We like ones that growl at you

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>These guys have earned everything that they've got, and Lord

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<v Speaker 2>helps the person that tries to take it away from him,

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<v Speaker 2>just like when my dog finds a t bone bone

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<v Speaker 2>underneath some sort of Porterhouse bone underneath the eleven Howard bench, and.

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<v Speaker 1>All of a sudden you feel like you might not

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<v Speaker 1>get your fingers back. So good for those dogs. Find them?

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<v Speaker 1>Who are they in this draft? That will be part two.

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<v Speaker 1>We got a lot of news from around the league

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<v Speaker 1>to get to.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's begin of Minnesota, where the final acquisition of

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<v Speaker 2>the Timberwolves has concluded and Mark Lorie and a Rod

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<v Speaker 2>are now officially the owners of one of the best

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<v Speaker 2>teams in the NBA.

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<v Speaker 1>What a steel for a Rod. My goodness.

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<v Speaker 2>They take over controlling ownership of the Wolves from Glenn Taylor.

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<v Speaker 2>I tell you what, Glenn Taylor's gotta be punching air

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<v Speaker 2>right now. Has to give up the team right as

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<v Speaker 2>that they're at the peak of their powers. I tell

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<v Speaker 2>you some Minnesota, Minnesota fans who are absolutely celebrating to

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<v Speaker 2>get rid of Glenn Taylor. He was one of the

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<v Speaker 2>cheapest owners in the league. He was very unpopular in Minnesota.

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<v Speaker 1>He has been very unpopular for very very long.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's great news for the Wolf and all that

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<v Speaker 2>remains is approval from the league and the Glenn Taylor

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<v Speaker 2>era is officially could put timon.

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<v Speaker 1>Couldn't have been better?

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<v Speaker 2>Right, everyone's talking about the Aunt Edwards Show, one of

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<v Speaker 2>the best shows on hardwood. Even Michael Jordan came out

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<v Speaker 2>and said, yeah, I see myself in AUNT. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't get a better endorsement than MJ himself, who

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<v Speaker 2>hates everyone. By the way, MJ tells everyone that he's

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<v Speaker 2>Kobe's not even like me.

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<v Speaker 1>No, this guy Lebron absolutely not Aunt Edwards.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, so Wolves fans have a lot to look forward

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<v Speaker 2>to now with one of the most explosive players in

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<v Speaker 2>the world, the number one defense in the league. Now

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<v Speaker 2>finally owners who aren't trying to squeeze five pennies out of.

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<v Speaker 1>A nickel out of every turn.

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<v Speaker 2>So congratulations Wolves fans, you got yourself a legit organization

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<v Speaker 2>with a legit star. All right, Moving on, I was

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<v Speaker 2>doing my weekly hit in Sacramento with Damian Barling and

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<v Speaker 2>Kenny Carraway on their Del and Casey show when the

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<v Speaker 2>subject of Malik Monk came up.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go to the tape. What think you gets? Tell

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<v Speaker 1>them over market? I know I've posted this on Twitter.

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<v Speaker 2>People got very mad because they want everybody to be

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<v Speaker 2>very moum on Malik.

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<v Speaker 1>But just between me and the lamp post, you know, what.

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<v Speaker 4>Did what did? What did you?

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<v Speaker 5>What were they saying? What were they saying to you?

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<v Speaker 5>I saw the tweet, but you know, I didn't go

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<v Speaker 5>through the comments. What were other you know, fan bases

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<v Speaker 5>saying about Malik like what he might get?

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<v Speaker 2>It was mostly it was mostly Sacramento fans like, please

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<v Speaker 2>don't bring this up right wrong.

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<v Speaker 5>I'll tell you we'll be jumping people.

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<v Speaker 4>Man, it just as our own and we just be jumping.

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<v Speaker 1>People like what are you doing? D Loo Casey let

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<v Speaker 1>her know.

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<v Speaker 2>We're not supposed to talk about Malik right now, like

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<v Speaker 2>nobody should know about him.

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<v Speaker 3>The first role of Malik Monk free Agency is to

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<v Speaker 3>not discuss Malik Monk free agency. It's hard to imagine

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<v Speaker 3>him not getting an offer in the vicinity of twenty

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<v Speaker 3>million dollars from someone like I feel like if he

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<v Speaker 3>got you know, four offers outside of a Sacramento or

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<v Speaker 3>three offers outside of Sacramento, I feel like they're all

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<v Speaker 3>ranging between nineteen and twenty one million dollars.

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<v Speaker 5>I think that's the.

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<v Speaker 2>Right right as someone who is certainly not a Sacramento

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<v Speaker 2>King's cap expert.

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<v Speaker 1>How much do we have to pay him?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's not the cap that's the problem.

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<v Speaker 6>It's the fact that he signed a two year contract

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<v Speaker 6>right when we signed him a couple of years ago,

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<v Speaker 6>and so there's a max that he can be offered

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<v Speaker 6>because of that structure, and we I always I think

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<v Speaker 6>it's like seventeen and a half is where it starts,

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<v Speaker 6>and then you you know, you can have the increments

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<v Speaker 6>raised after that. But I don't think Sacramento can start

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<v Speaker 6>above seventeen and a half. Well, and that's why King's

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<v Speaker 6>fans are terrifying. That's why King's fans are terrified.

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't want you to shut up, man, I am. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>really hoping things will work out for the Kings in

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<v Speaker 1>the league.

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<v Speaker 2>Fortunately, so does Malik himself. He said this to Anthony

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<v Speaker 2>Slater the other day. I love to be here, man.

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<v Speaker 2>I got comfortable here, made a lot of new friends here,

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<v Speaker 2>met a lot of great people here.

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<v Speaker 1>The city loves me.

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<v Speaker 2>I loved the city, so yeah, I'd love to come back.

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<v Speaker 2>The problem is that the Kings did not structure his

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<v Speaker 2>deal in a way that allows them to be at

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<v Speaker 2>the head of the negotiating table.

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<v Speaker 1>Here is what is under the King's control.

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<v Speaker 2>The most the Kings can offer because they gave Malik

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<v Speaker 2>a two year deal, is a four year, seventy eight

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<v Speaker 2>point four million dollar contract based on having early bird rights,

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<v Speaker 2>which means the Kings can offer him one hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>seventy five percent of this year's salary, with raises.

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<v Speaker 1>Eight percent each year. That is rough.

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<v Speaker 2>They would keep him comfortably under the salary cap at

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<v Speaker 2>that point, especially since they don't have a twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 2>four first rounder to sign. But there are now estimates

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<v Speaker 2>coming out that there are some young and scrappy upcoming

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<v Speaker 2>teams that want Malik and could sign him for anywhere

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<v Speaker 2>between twenty and twenty two million dollars per year for

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<v Speaker 2>teams looking for somebody who maybe the sixth man of

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<v Speaker 2>the year and maybe offering him a starting spots.

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<v Speaker 1>Will he stay for.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, twenty thirty million dollars less overall than

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<v Speaker 2>what he could get on the open market. The Aaron Fox,

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<v Speaker 2>send that man some flowers or a hooker.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. He's only twenty five, he's at the

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<v Speaker 1>prime of his career.

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<v Speaker 2>If he takes a shorter deal in order to get

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<v Speaker 2>to his bird rights, that might work for both sides,

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<v Speaker 2>but why would he really Like he tears an acl

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<v Speaker 2>and he's done done. I hope he stays in Sacramento

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<v Speaker 2>with Fox, but it's not a done deal, and that

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<v Speaker 2>makes Kings fans and myself and the Aaron Fox and

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<v Speaker 2>Mike Brown extremely extremely nervous. All right, moving on, I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's time for us to revisit and start talking

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<v Speaker 2>about Jalen Green. We've been quite critical of Jalen Green.

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<v Speaker 2>I have said he's not a winning player. He has

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<v Speaker 2>not made winning decisions. Maybe Eme Udoko would make him

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<v Speaker 2>a winning player like he did.

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<v Speaker 1>The Boston Celtics.

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<v Speaker 2>In his game on Tuesday night, though Jalen Green went

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<v Speaker 2>off for forty two and ten rebounds. The forty two,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, was a career high. It was capped

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<v Speaker 2>by this Jordanesque dipsy do up and under change reverse

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<v Speaker 2>hands in the middle of a contest that lit up

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<v Speaker 2>social media like a firefly and a dark bathroom. It

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<v Speaker 2>was pretty pretty as him, and more importantly, it led

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<v Speaker 2>to the six consecutive win for a streaking Rockets team.

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<v Speaker 2>So We've seen highlight plays from Jalen Green, but we

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<v Speaker 2>have not seen those coincide with wins. In his last

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<v Speaker 2>ten games, Jailing Green has been clutch twenty seven, six

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<v Speaker 2>and three, forty eight, forty and eighty shooting splits better

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<v Speaker 2>yet though. He's a plus eleven net rating in those

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<v Speaker 2>ten games. And like I said, they are streaking, they

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<v Speaker 2>are winning, meaning he's hugely.

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<v Speaker 1>Impacting the Rockets during this win streak.

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<v Speaker 2>His game against the Lossington Lizards as we call them

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<v Speaker 2>aka Washington Wizards to you, but they don't get many dubs,

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<v Speaker 2>so we give him the Lizards title saw him put

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<v Speaker 2>a forty two eleven from thirteen, eleven for thirteen from

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<v Speaker 2>the line, and seven for thirteen from three, ten rebounds,

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<v Speaker 2>three assists, a block, and a steel in thirty six

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<v Speaker 2>minutes in a game that the Houston Rockets won by

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<v Speaker 2>twenty three.

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<v Speaker 1>What was his net rating in that.

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<v Speaker 2>One checks notes A plus twenty six. Oh my goodness, dude,

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<v Speaker 2>just impacting winning on both sides of the ball. If

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<v Speaker 2>only Jalen Green could have gotten Draia Dreya pregnant earlier.

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<v Speaker 2>He's on his grown man status, no more fuck boy

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<v Speaker 2>like stat sheets. We're only trying to get plus numbers

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<v Speaker 2>in terms of impact. And the best part, he's got

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<v Speaker 2>his eyes on the prize for the first time in

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<v Speaker 2>his NBA career. He said, I've got a goal now

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a dad.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't say that, and that's to get to the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 2>That's just to win, stack as many w's as we

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<v Speaker 2>can before the end of the season and pray that

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<v Speaker 2>we can get into the play in tournament.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the focus. Does anybody remember.

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<v Speaker 2>Jalen Green saying anything about stacking wins to get to

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<v Speaker 2>the playoffs?

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<v Speaker 1>Folks remember Steven Silas God he was bad anyway. He said,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone's playing hard.

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<v Speaker 2>We're chasing something right now, we've all got the same goal.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got shit, we've all got the same goal, Anthony,

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<v Speaker 2>and everyone's on board with it.

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<v Speaker 1>Please help me out with this edit. There's a reason

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<v Speaker 1>that they're eight.

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<v Speaker 2>And one in March, and that reason has a name,

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<v Speaker 2>Jalen Green and Ema Udoka. Like I said, it's been

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<v Speaker 2>a huge month. Jalen became a father to be for

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<v Speaker 2>the first time with Drea a uh what we call Drea.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think you know if you know who

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<v Speaker 1>she is, is she.

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<v Speaker 2>I need I don't know, man, I she's not around

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<v Speaker 2>the way girl. She's more like a every other city,

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<v Speaker 2>week ago, every other video.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>She's eighteen years older than him. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>that's a good thing or a bad thing. Does that

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<v Speaker 2>mean like she's instilling maturity in him?

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<v Speaker 1>Does that mean that she's pulling some predatory behavior on him?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. She's pregnant with Jalen Green's baby. At

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<v Speaker 1>least we could put some of those.

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<v Speaker 2>Rumors to bed that surfaced on social media last year

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<v Speaker 2>when he old dorm room videos surfaced. If you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying, his rockets.

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<v Speaker 1>Are two and a half games out of the plan

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<v Speaker 1>with a shot at the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 2>Dude is killing it. Great to see for a guy

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<v Speaker 2>that a lot of people started to write off earlier

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<v Speaker 2>this year. People started to say that the G League

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<v Speaker 2>Night wasn't any good just because of him. He was

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<v Speaker 2>also named NBA Player of a Week. That was the

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<v Speaker 2>first such award of his career.

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<v Speaker 1>Good for Jalen Green. I clown around a lot, but

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<v Speaker 1>Jalen Green was considered.

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<v Speaker 2>To be one of the most highly touted, highly hyped

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<v Speaker 2>players in his draft class. So it's good to see

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<v Speaker 2>a guy that people were excited to see finally.

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<v Speaker 1>Start to produce at that level. It's easy to forget that.

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<v Speaker 2>Things don't always come together so easily or come on

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<v Speaker 2>the expected timeframe. Zion, for example, It's been many years

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<v Speaker 2>since Zion was supposed to produce, and now many years

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<v Speaker 2>into his career, he's finally doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>As emy Udoka said, this has been building for a

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<v Speaker 1>long time.

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<v Speaker 2>The assist numbers, the shooting numbers, the defensive competitiveness, all

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<v Speaker 2>those areas have really improved. It's not just gonna happen overnight.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a little slower for some people, but it's really

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<v Speaker 2>been clicking for Jalen even before the All Star break,

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<v Speaker 2>you could see signs the double doubles in a row,

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<v Speaker 2>the five game stretch that he had to put it

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<v Speaker 2>all together. Now it's even more needed with some guys

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<v Speaker 2>going down to injury like alprin Shangoon, and to think,

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<v Speaker 2>like I said before the nets turned down Jalen Green

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<v Speaker 2>for four firsts Jalen Green, and four first for mckil bridges.

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<v Speaker 1>The nets are gonna nets, so they're not.

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<v Speaker 2>And the Rockets started this year blisteringly hot, faded and

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<v Speaker 2>now got hot again after their best player went down.

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<v Speaker 2>If the Rockets make the playoffs after getting emay Udoka,

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<v Speaker 2>Dylan Brooks and the junkyard dog Fred van Fleet, emay

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<v Speaker 2>Udoka should win Coach of the Year and Jalen Green

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<v Speaker 2>should be most improved player. I know it's not gonna happen,

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<v Speaker 2>but if there's any justice in this world.

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<v Speaker 1>It will.

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<v Speaker 2>We end this show with a special interview with Robin

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<v Speaker 2>Lundberg of SI Sports Illustrated. Robin has been an MBA

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<v Speaker 2>insider for years. Join my other show, but MGM Tonight,

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<v Speaker 2>which airs Monday through Friday live from seven to eleven Eastern.

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<v Speaker 1>I was joined by my co host Ryan Horvaught.

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<v Speaker 2>Rob gotten to a ton of interesting NBA news and

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<v Speaker 2>his thoughts on these teams going down to the stretch

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<v Speaker 2>as we get into play in tournament, in the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's get right into it.

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<v Speaker 7>What do you think right now about the Milwaukee Bucks

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<v Speaker 7>because they're paying technically three head coaches right now. Mike Budenholzer,

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<v Speaker 7>we saw what happen with Adrian Griffin and now Doc

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<v Speaker 7>Rivers takes over. They were playing a little bit better,

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<v Speaker 7>especially on the defensive end. No Giannis tonight. Just your

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<v Speaker 7>overall thoughts right now on the Bucks in the Eastern Conference.

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<v Speaker 8>Well number one, I think Doc Rivers is actually slightly

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<v Speaker 8>underrated at this point in.

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<v Speaker 4>Time because I feel like he's gotten so much.

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<v Speaker 8>Blowback for being a choker and a failure that people

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<v Speaker 8>forget to realize. You know, his career record is well

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<v Speaker 8>over five hundred. He is an NBA championship coach. He

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<v Speaker 8>has been to another Finals that they happen to lose

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<v Speaker 8>in a Game seven. I don't think the Lob City

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<v Speaker 8>Clippers were some sort of juggernaut that were supposed to

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<v Speaker 8>run rough shot over the league during that entire timeframe.

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<v Speaker 4>No.

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<v Speaker 8>I understand the blown three one leads, and I understand

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<v Speaker 8>some of the critique, but it's not like the Sixers

0:23:04.880 --> 0:23:07.520
<v Speaker 8>were bad under his tenure either. I think this is

0:23:07.560 --> 0:23:11.080
<v Speaker 8>a flawed Bucks roster in a sense where you give

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<v Speaker 8>up a guy like Drew Holliay, let's go back to

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<v Speaker 8>the Olympics. People forget this, but Damian Lillard was the

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<v Speaker 8>point guard for the Olympic team. Now, he was dealing

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<v Speaker 8>with an injury at a time, to be fair, but

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<v Speaker 8>that team got much better when Drew Holliday came in

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<v Speaker 8>and took over for Dame Lillard.

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<v Speaker 4>It was really Katie, Holliday.

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<v Speaker 8>And Tatum that were the top three guys for that

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<v Speaker 8>team because of what Holliday was able to do defensively.

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<v Speaker 8>And you look at this Bucks squad. You know, Lillard

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<v Speaker 8>brings that clutch time offense. He brings that logo shooting

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<v Speaker 8>that we've all come to expect. But beyond him and Giannis,

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<v Speaker 8>the end between is a little lacking. The perimeter defense

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<v Speaker 8>is a little lacking, and that's what would concern me

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<v Speaker 8>about them in the postseason when things get hairy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's a good point.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Chris Middleton, we haven't seen him in quite

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<v Speaker 2>some time with an ankle injury.

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<v Speaker 1>A team on the.

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<v Speaker 2>West in a very dangerous spot right now is the

0:24:02.720 --> 0:24:05.680
<v Speaker 2>Lakers robin. They're seven and six and their last thirteen

0:24:06.119 --> 0:24:08.760
<v Speaker 2>one and two in their last three. There's a lot

0:24:08.800 --> 0:24:11.760
<v Speaker 2>of smoke here in terms of, like, if they don't

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<v Speaker 2>make the play in what's going to happen with Darvin Ham.

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<v Speaker 2>It just came out yesterday that Rob Polinka overruled the

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<v Speaker 2>scouting department, took Jalen Hood Shaffino over Haimi Hawkes and

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<v Speaker 2>Cam Whitmore. But what do you think is the is

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<v Speaker 2>the future this season for the Lakers. Obviously they're very

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<v Speaker 2>dangerous if they do get into the playoffs, but there's

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of teams that are hot on their tails.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, I mean, look, Lebron's basketball IQ will do a

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<v Speaker 8>lot for them. He can diagram the plays with JJ

0:24:40.960 --> 0:24:43.120
<v Speaker 8>Reddick as they get closer to make sure that they

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<v Speaker 8>don't fall out of the postseason. Contention, the Lakers are

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<v Speaker 8>a flawed team. I mean, you pointed it out. It's

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<v Speaker 8>a flawed roster. You know, they've got some good players,

0:24:51.760 --> 0:24:57.760
<v Speaker 8>but they've lacked that real outside shooting for a minute now. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, if you look at the way that the

0:24:59.280 --> 0:25:03.280
<v Speaker 8>organization has been run, if Lebron didn't go there, we'd

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<v Speaker 8>be talking about the Lakers as some sort of epic

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<v Speaker 8>historic failure considering what they once were versus what they

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<v Speaker 8>were toward the end of Kobe's time and after Kobe's

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<v Speaker 8>time there before Lebron got there.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, the benefit for them is the.

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<v Speaker 8>Play in tournament, which makes it so much harder to

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<v Speaker 8>fall out of the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think.

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<v Speaker 8>Anytime you get into a constricted situation where you're playing

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<v Speaker 8>you know, fewer number of games and you can rely

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<v Speaker 8>more on the top of your lineup. It benefits them

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<v Speaker 8>obviously because of who they employ in Lebron James and

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<v Speaker 8>to a lesser degree, Anthony Davis. So I still think

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<v Speaker 8>they're dangerous if they can get into a playoff scenario.

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<v Speaker 8>We saw a similar thing last year, and the most

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<v Speaker 8>important thing for them, to be honest, is gonna be health.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, if those guys are healthy when they get there,

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<v Speaker 8>it gives them the proverbial puncher's chance.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say, if Anthony Davis had fifty straight double doubles,

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<v Speaker 2>would that be covered differently than Demonas Sabonis, who now

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<v Speaker 2>has surpassed that.

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<v Speaker 4>Perhaps here's the thing with AD. The thing with AD is.

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<v Speaker 8>He's never going to be what we cast him to be.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, the biggest anomaly out of the bubble was

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<v Speaker 8>Anthony Davis's shooting where he looked like the second coming

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<v Speaker 8>of KD. And since then, the real problem there is

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<v Speaker 8>he's a terrific defensive player, very versatile player. When he's

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<v Speaker 8>got the energy going, he scores because he's cutting, diving,

0:26:30.640 --> 0:26:32.960
<v Speaker 8>grabbing rebounds, putting them back up all that stuff, but

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<v Speaker 8>he doesn't have that much of a bag.

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<v Speaker 4>He doesn't have that much of a jump shot.

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<v Speaker 8>And we thought at that time, Okay, Lebron's gonna hand

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<v Speaker 8>the reins over to Anthony Davis. It's gonna be Anthony

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<v Speaker 8>Davis's team and Lebron's gonna take a step back. That

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<v Speaker 8>is never going to happen. And the thing is, Sabonis

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<v Speaker 8>and Anthony Davis are on a similar tier. I mean,

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<v Speaker 8>I know Sabonis owns him head to head. We've all

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<v Speaker 8>seen that, but that is closer than people realize, I think,

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<v Speaker 8>And therein lies the the rub. But you know, of

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<v Speaker 8>course eighty plays for the Lakers and plays next to

0:27:03.359 --> 0:27:08.080
<v Speaker 8>Lebron James, while Sabonis plays in Sacramento, which is covered

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<v Speaker 8>a little bit differently.

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<v Speaker 7>All Right, So I wanted to ask you about Wemby.

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<v Speaker 4>He's going to be Rookie of the Year.

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<v Speaker 7>Although we really like Chet, we like Jimi Hawkins as well,

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<v Speaker 7>but like I'm looking at Defensive Player of the Year,

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<v Speaker 7>he's down to plus three point fifty. Rudy Gobert's minus

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<v Speaker 7>five hundred the last fifteen games. I know it's a

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<v Speaker 7>season long award, but I was looking at this in

0:27:24.880 --> 0:27:27.280
<v Speaker 7>the Spurs, like the last fifteen games of the defensive

0:27:27.359 --> 0:27:29.840
<v Speaker 7>rating with Wemby on the floor one oh seven point three,

0:27:30.080 --> 0:27:32.639
<v Speaker 7>which is actually better than Minnesota's a top spot with

0:27:32.720 --> 0:27:35.400
<v Speaker 7>him off the floor one nineteen point three, which would

0:27:35.400 --> 0:27:37.439
<v Speaker 7>be twenty ninth overall. Do you think he has a

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<v Speaker 7>shot to actually win this award or no, it's Rudy Gobert's.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, I mean you look at the odds and I

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<v Speaker 8>think those are the odds that would give him a shot.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean I would certainly it'd be worth a as

0:27:48.720 --> 0:27:50.600
<v Speaker 8>Trista likes to stay a sprinkle and then if you

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<v Speaker 8>get it wrong, you could just blame your interpreter, you know,

0:27:53.000 --> 0:27:58.080
<v Speaker 8>and you'll be good. But fs Wenby goes from it

0:27:58.119 --> 0:28:02.560
<v Speaker 8>is an ability standpoint. I think it's the problem is

0:28:02.640 --> 0:28:05.760
<v Speaker 8>it takes a minute to catch up, and that's the problem.

0:28:05.840 --> 0:28:07.600
<v Speaker 8>I mean, I think he said it himself like this

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<v Speaker 8>is Rudy Gobert's last year and then it's my territory.

0:28:10.160 --> 0:28:13.120
<v Speaker 8>But when you watch when you watch him, I watched

0:28:13.160 --> 0:28:17.399
<v Speaker 8>the Nets game he ate Nick Claxton alive on a

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<v Speaker 8>couple of possessions back to back or the same possession

0:28:20.240 --> 0:28:22.720
<v Speaker 8>back to back plays, Claxton tries to go up, blocks him.

0:28:22.880 --> 0:28:26.320
<v Speaker 8>Claxton tries to go up again, blocks him. And the

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<v Speaker 8>talent is just freakish, which is why he was pegged

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<v Speaker 8>the way he was pegged coming in. Is he the

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<v Speaker 8>most impactful defensive player in the league. I would say yes.

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<v Speaker 8>If I had a vote, I would vote for him.

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<v Speaker 8>As far as him actually winning it, you know, there's

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<v Speaker 8>only looking at that board, there's only two players who

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<v Speaker 8>have a chance. One has a better chance than the other.

0:28:47.840 --> 0:28:51.680
<v Speaker 8>But it's it's more than a complete total long.

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<v Speaker 4>Shot, Robin.

0:28:52.480 --> 0:28:53.800
<v Speaker 1>We were doing the lord's work.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, sometimes people get mad when you shame players

0:28:58.240 --> 0:29:02.760
<v Speaker 2>into doing their job. But somehow, some way, multiple years

0:29:02.760 --> 0:29:05.080
<v Speaker 2>have gone past, and now all of a sudden, I

0:29:05.120 --> 0:29:09.320
<v Speaker 2>look up and Zion has lost twenty five pounds since

0:29:09.360 --> 0:29:12.680
<v Speaker 2>the nd season tournament. You watch him on the court

0:29:12.680 --> 0:29:15.160
<v Speaker 2>and you're like, oh my god, he's shredded. He has

0:29:15.200 --> 0:29:19.200
<v Speaker 2>the elevation and he's got that vertical back. My goodness,

0:29:19.520 --> 0:29:21.640
<v Speaker 2>what will it take do you think for us to

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<v Speaker 2>flip the narrative on Zion?

0:29:22.920 --> 0:29:24.600
<v Speaker 1>And what do you think the Pelicans can become?

0:29:25.040 --> 0:29:28.160
<v Speaker 2>Because it's starting to get out that the Pelicans could

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<v Speaker 2>be a dangerous team in the West.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I think it's happening now.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean the fact that you're asking that question, and

0:29:34.280 --> 0:29:36.520
<v Speaker 8>obviously what we've seen from Zion.

0:29:37.280 --> 0:29:39.440
<v Speaker 4>I've never been the biggest brandon Ingram fan.

0:29:40.200 --> 0:29:44.480
<v Speaker 8>My concern for Zion is more like from a basketball standpoint,

0:29:44.520 --> 0:29:48.400
<v Speaker 8>is more on the defensive end, because unlike Webbin Yama,

0:29:48.440 --> 0:29:52.240
<v Speaker 8>he's not incredibly long, and then he's so big and strong,

0:29:52.400 --> 0:29:56.280
<v Speaker 8>he's not incredibly deaf moving laterally, So I think he

0:29:56.320 --> 0:29:59.120
<v Speaker 8>can be put in some tough spots in mismatches and

0:29:59.440 --> 0:30:00.720
<v Speaker 8>crossmatch and.

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<v Speaker 4>A little bit.

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<v Speaker 8>But he is, I mean, he is a monster. And

0:30:06.040 --> 0:30:07.600
<v Speaker 8>it's funny we talk about you guys. I think you

0:30:07.600 --> 0:30:09.720
<v Speaker 8>guys were talking about March Madness at the top of

0:30:09.720 --> 0:30:12.000
<v Speaker 8>the segment before I came on. He feels like the

0:30:12.080 --> 0:30:16.120
<v Speaker 8>last college basketball star on the men's side in many ways.

0:30:16.280 --> 0:30:18.680
<v Speaker 8>You know, we haven't really seen that since then. But

0:30:19.120 --> 0:30:21.440
<v Speaker 8>the reason he was so hype we're starting to see now,

0:30:21.600 --> 0:30:25.960
<v Speaker 8>and what was address was his conditioning and and him

0:30:26.080 --> 0:30:28.880
<v Speaker 8>actually just being healthy and out on the floor, because

0:30:28.880 --> 0:30:32.640
<v Speaker 8>the one thing he can provide is just like monstrous deficient.

0:30:32.680 --> 0:30:38.000
<v Speaker 8>He never misses around the basket. He's incredibly adept at finishing.

0:30:38.000 --> 0:30:41.479
<v Speaker 8>Nobody can really stop him. If they can get the

0:30:41.560 --> 0:30:44.760
<v Speaker 8>perimeter play to match that, they're going to be a

0:30:44.880 --> 0:30:48.400
<v Speaker 8>very dangerous team. I'm just not so sure I trust

0:30:48.440 --> 0:30:53.360
<v Speaker 8>that they have that cohort to go with him, uh

0:30:53.120 --> 0:30:56.760
<v Speaker 8>to get to the the NBA Finals or make a

0:30:56.760 --> 0:30:58.920
<v Speaker 8>deep run in the NBA playoffs.

0:30:59.760 --> 0:31:02.200
<v Speaker 4>You know, obviously they should get there.

0:31:02.640 --> 0:31:03.719
<v Speaker 1>How far do you think they could go?

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<v Speaker 8>I think they could win around possibly depending on the matchup,

0:31:06.800 --> 0:31:10.800
<v Speaker 8>But I think that's about it. I Mean, look, these

0:31:10.840 --> 0:31:13.880
<v Speaker 8>teams that we're talking about, we talk about for a reason,

0:31:13.960 --> 0:31:17.840
<v Speaker 8>right I mean, the Denver Nuggets, clearly, the Timberwolves look

0:31:17.920 --> 0:31:21.640
<v Speaker 8>like they're they're for real. Obviously, the Clippers, if they're healthy,

0:31:21.680 --> 0:31:25.680
<v Speaker 8>are legitimate, you know, and you have just up and

0:31:25.720 --> 0:31:28.000
<v Speaker 8>down the West, even though all those playing teams feel

0:31:28.680 --> 0:31:30.520
<v Speaker 8>who would you pick the Pelicans or the Lakers in

0:31:30.560 --> 0:31:33.000
<v Speaker 8>a playoff series if it came down, I would still

0:31:33.040 --> 0:31:36.080
<v Speaker 8>pick the Lakers in a playoff series, probably because of

0:31:36.560 --> 0:31:38.680
<v Speaker 8>the guy who wears number twenty three, right like, so

0:31:38.960 --> 0:31:41.719
<v Speaker 8>you know, same with the Warriors, because we saw we

0:31:41.760 --> 0:31:44.600
<v Speaker 8>literally saw it last year where those two teams felt

0:31:44.600 --> 0:31:46.600
<v Speaker 8>like they were and then they wind up in a

0:31:46.640 --> 0:31:49.760
<v Speaker 8>great playoff series. So I think until I see them

0:31:49.840 --> 0:31:53.200
<v Speaker 8>do it, I'm skeptical that they're going to it advance

0:31:53.240 --> 0:31:54.000
<v Speaker 8>even past one.

0:31:54.200 --> 0:31:56.640
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, we hit on the Pelicans, Clippers, Wolves, and Nuggets,

0:31:56.680 --> 0:31:58.480
<v Speaker 7>but not the one seed right now, that'd be the Thunder.

0:31:58.480 --> 0:32:00.560
<v Speaker 7>Do you think the Thunder are good enough to win

0:32:00.600 --> 0:32:02.360
<v Speaker 7>a playoff series? A couple playoff series?

0:32:02.360 --> 0:32:02.440
<v Speaker 2>Like?

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<v Speaker 7>What do you think they're ceiling is this year?

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<v Speaker 4>For Okay?

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<v Speaker 8>See, I mean I think their ceiling is the NBA Finals.

0:32:08.400 --> 0:32:10.280
<v Speaker 8>I don't think that's gonna happen, but I do feel

0:32:10.320 --> 0:32:12.960
<v Speaker 8>like that's a realistic ceiling, and I think this core

0:32:13.400 --> 0:32:14.560
<v Speaker 8>could eventually get there.

0:32:14.720 --> 0:32:16.560
<v Speaker 4>I mean because they have they can check all the.

0:32:16.520 --> 0:32:20.560
<v Speaker 8>Boxes with Williams, with Homegrin, obviously with SGA. You know,

0:32:20.680 --> 0:32:24.600
<v Speaker 8>so they have a real complete team and you know

0:32:24.720 --> 0:32:27.840
<v Speaker 8>it is the prob. I know, sixers with the process,

0:32:27.840 --> 0:32:30.960
<v Speaker 8>but it was the process realized. But again, I would

0:32:31.120 --> 0:32:34.600
<v Speaker 8>be skeptical until we actually see them do that, because

0:32:34.600 --> 0:32:37.200
<v Speaker 8>we've seen a lot of teams have really good regular

0:32:37.240 --> 0:32:40.960
<v Speaker 8>seasons and then when they run into the playoffs, it's

0:32:41.000 --> 0:32:45.200
<v Speaker 8>that experience. It's that you know, been there, done that

0:32:45.600 --> 0:32:47.960
<v Speaker 8>When you're in that seven game series and the other

0:32:48.000 --> 0:32:51.040
<v Speaker 8>team knows your tendencies? How do you how do you react?

0:32:51.520 --> 0:32:54.400
<v Speaker 8>How do you react to those pressure situations? And and

0:32:54.520 --> 0:32:57.120
<v Speaker 8>I would still lean with the teams that we've at

0:32:57.200 --> 0:32:59.440
<v Speaker 8>least seen get their toes into the water.

0:32:59.720 --> 0:33:01.920
<v Speaker 2>I remissed, and I have you on and ask you

0:33:01.920 --> 0:33:05.800
<v Speaker 2>about the Knicks. Mitchell Robinson is now looking more and

0:33:05.880 --> 0:33:08.480
<v Speaker 2>more likely to see the court very soon. We know

0:33:08.560 --> 0:33:11.000
<v Speaker 2>og and Obi is dealing with some elbow inflammation. But

0:33:11.040 --> 0:33:13.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm not really too worried about that. I've dug into

0:33:13.440 --> 0:33:14.760
<v Speaker 2>the lab talk to some people.

0:33:15.000 --> 0:33:17.360
<v Speaker 1>It's just a precautionary thing before the playoffs.

0:33:17.560 --> 0:33:20.360
<v Speaker 2>No word on Julius Randall yet, but obviously Jalen Brunson

0:33:20.400 --> 0:33:22.200
<v Speaker 2>is the key to making this whole thing go. Now

0:33:22.280 --> 0:33:25.480
<v Speaker 2>that most of the pieces are starting to congeal back

0:33:25.520 --> 0:33:28.680
<v Speaker 2>together healthy, where are we at on the Knicks.

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<v Speaker 4>I think the Knicks are a dangerous team if they're healthy.

0:33:31.760 --> 0:33:32.040
<v Speaker 4>I do.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, look just last year the Knicks. We're right

0:33:36.320 --> 0:33:39.360
<v Speaker 8>there with Miami, who wound up in the finals. You

0:33:39.400 --> 0:33:42.240
<v Speaker 8>look at the way that these numbers bear out, I mean,

0:33:42.520 --> 0:33:45.640
<v Speaker 8>all those teams are punched up. That's telling you all

0:33:45.640 --> 0:33:47.920
<v Speaker 8>those teams are a similar quality. The Knicks beat the

0:33:47.960 --> 0:33:51.520
<v Speaker 8>Cavaliers just last season. I think it's those three guys.

0:33:51.640 --> 0:33:53.880
<v Speaker 8>Mitchell Robinson would be good for them, but I don't

0:33:53.880 --> 0:33:57.160
<v Speaker 8>think that's really what matters. I think it's Jalen Brunson,

0:33:57.480 --> 0:34:02.680
<v Speaker 8>og Nnobi, Julius Randall, those three guys healthy and available

0:34:03.040 --> 0:34:06.120
<v Speaker 8>in the playoffs because they provide different elements for them too.

0:34:06.400 --> 0:34:09.760
<v Speaker 8>You know, anonob was exactly what they needed between Brunson

0:34:09.880 --> 0:34:13.719
<v Speaker 8>and Randall. Randall I still have concerns even if he's

0:34:13.760 --> 0:34:16.759
<v Speaker 8>on the floor about how he handles pressure situations because

0:34:16.760 --> 0:34:19.359
<v Speaker 8>he hasn't done that well in the past. But he

0:34:19.360 --> 0:34:22.880
<v Speaker 8>can really score, and Brunson has proven himself as somebody

0:34:22.880 --> 0:34:24.479
<v Speaker 8>who can get his shot anytime he wants.

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<v Speaker 7>Thanks so much, man, Robin Lumberg right there. Follow him

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<v Speaker 2>That's ridiculous, And at this Eja and interesting Creek on TikTok,

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<v Speaker 2>Twitter and Instagram.

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<v Speaker 1>And once again we're back on YouTube. When the video

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<v Speaker 1>is gonna happen, I don't know, but follow us. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>see you next time.