WEBVTT - Hey William Shatner! 0:00:08.440 --> 0:00:12.240 Illness. So April twenty fifth. If I asked you what 0:00:12.280 --> 0:00:15.080 the significance of that date is, what would you say? Easter? 0:00:16.000 --> 0:00:20.279 No incorrect? William Shatner's birthday incorrect. April twenty fifth is 0:00:20.320 --> 0:00:26.040 described as a perfect date from the movie Miscongeniality Ah 0:00:26.480 --> 0:00:29.800 Miss Rhode Island. She has asked, could you describe your 0:00:29.800 --> 0:00:33.720 perfect date by William Shatner? William Shatner to what she replies, 0:00:34.040 --> 0:00:36.080 I would have to say April twenty fifth. It's not 0:00:36.080 --> 0:00:37.680 too hot and not too cold as an iconic line, 0:00:37.760 --> 0:00:39.920 and it is. She's not wrong, She's not wrong. It 0:00:39.920 --> 0:00:43.000 has still with me, stuck with me forever, April twenty fifth, 0:00:44.000 --> 0:00:46.720 So I celebrate it. I'm actually one of the many 0:00:46.720 --> 0:00:49.080 people throughout the world who celebrates April twenty fifth as 0:00:49.120 --> 0:00:53.000 a national and international holiday. So national date day lines 0:00:53.080 --> 0:00:57.560 like that iconic moments in film are are no stranger 0:00:57.600 --> 0:01:01.320 to our guests. They have many going all the way 0:01:01.360 --> 0:01:06.000 back to Star Trek h our dad would say this 0:01:06.040 --> 0:01:10.600 all the time space the Final Frontier, Captain Kirk played 0:01:10.600 --> 0:01:13.760 by none of then William Jashatner, thee Williams shutter to 0:01:13.840 --> 0:01:16.319 boldly go where no one has gone before is a 0:01:16.520 --> 0:01:20.160 crazy line that used line that he said. He said, 0:01:20.520 --> 0:01:23.720 you imagine having a line like that that's so iconic 0:01:24.360 --> 0:01:26.520 that it it just it becomes a part of the 0:01:27.000 --> 0:01:28.080 English vernacular. 0:01:28.200 --> 0:01:29.960 Yeah, Like if you didn't know, I would think that 0:01:29.959 --> 0:01:31.480 that was what buzz Aldrin said. 0:01:31.680 --> 0:01:33.240 I thought I would say that was in the Bible. 0:01:33.560 --> 0:01:40.800 He's years old, years he looks incredible. You know him well, 0:01:40.959 --> 0:01:44.039 and it's him quite well. It's kind of wild our relationship. 0:01:44.120 --> 0:01:47.160 But there was a time when I signed him to 0:01:47.200 --> 0:01:50.160 a recording deal. YEP, that's a thing that happened. I 0:01:50.200 --> 0:01:53.720 had a joint venture. And for those of you who 0:01:53.720 --> 0:01:57.680 don't know what that is, under Republic Records, Jonah Brothers 0:01:57.680 --> 0:02:00.000 are signed by Republic Records. Is before the Jonah's Brothers 0:02:00.040 --> 0:02:04.559 signed to Republic Records. I was sitting around during COVID 0:02:04.600 --> 0:02:07.160 and I just was scrolling on TikTok a lot, finding 0:02:07.160 --> 0:02:10.840 all these amazing artists that had very little view COUNTSL 0:02:10.960 --> 0:02:12.639 was like, these are amazing, Like I want to work 0:02:12.639 --> 0:02:14.840 with these people. How do I do this? There a 0:02:14.880 --> 0:02:18.560 record label underneath Republic called a joint venture. We signed 0:02:18.600 --> 0:02:21.120 up a handful of people and William Shatner was one 0:02:21.160 --> 0:02:23.240 of them because he does spoken word. He did a 0:02:23.240 --> 0:02:26.120 spoken word album, so cool. I'm also featured on a 0:02:26.160 --> 0:02:29.000 song called Clouds of Guilt that I sing and he 0:02:29.160 --> 0:02:32.680 just spoken word. It's really trippy and such a vibe. 0:02:32.840 --> 0:02:36.280 And he did an entire album a spoken word and 0:02:36.639 --> 0:02:40.400 now he's gearing up to make a metal album. Fantastic. 0:02:40.560 --> 0:02:42.520 I cannot just announced that. So we should definitely talk 0:02:42.520 --> 0:02:47.840 to them about this. Yeah, please let's bring them on. Please, Hello, Hello, sir. 0:02:48.160 --> 0:02:50.640 It is so good to meet you. I know Joe's 0:02:50.680 --> 0:02:52.720 got a history with you and and and he just 0:02:52.800 --> 0:02:54.440 kind of filled us in on where it all stem from. 0:02:54.440 --> 0:02:56.840 But it is so great to meet you, such big fans, 0:02:56.919 --> 0:03:00.000 and I know everyone listening is obviously massive fens. Well, 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:01.120 so thanks for joining us. 0:03:01.480 --> 0:03:04.040 Well thanks for asking me. I have somewhere in my 0:03:04.280 --> 0:03:07.200 phone some of the names of the people who are 0:03:07.280 --> 0:03:08.120 joining my medal. 0:03:08.680 --> 0:03:10.959 So your piece of it is spoken word? Or you 0:03:11.400 --> 0:03:12.800 are you singing in this as well? 0:03:13.160 --> 0:03:15.960 You might say, because three of you are such wonderful singers. 0:03:16.680 --> 0:03:20.800 He does spoken word, he speaks, I who have difficulty 0:03:21.560 --> 0:03:27.320 staying in tune. My pitch is not perfect. 0:03:28.000 --> 0:03:30.480 Doesn't have to be. How did this come about? Please 0:03:30.919 --> 0:03:31.320 tell us. 0:03:31.600 --> 0:03:36.560 Which aspect my birth? My dad A great Why back. 0:03:36.400 --> 0:03:38.360 To your earliest memory? He I would like to know 0:03:38.400 --> 0:03:42.080 your earliest memory be more so, I guess the metal 0:03:42.080 --> 0:03:44.120 album what's strong The site. 0:03:44.440 --> 0:03:51.000 Cleopatra is the name of the label. And so when 0:03:51.040 --> 0:03:55.120 I was doing Star Trek, Decca was like the biggest 0:03:55.280 --> 0:03:59.320 whatever the equivalent is now record label. And they came 0:03:59.360 --> 0:04:02.400 to me why I was shooting Star Trek and said 0:04:02.400 --> 0:04:04.760 would you do an album? And I said, well, you know, 0:04:05.000 --> 0:04:10.400 I took singing lessons and I but I never followed through. 0:04:10.800 --> 0:04:12.720 And I had an idea that I would carry the 0:04:12.760 --> 0:04:16.040 fret of a guitar so I could learn the fingerings. 0:04:16.279 --> 0:04:21.000 Had those ambitious In fact my Broadway phase, I went out. 0:04:21.080 --> 0:04:24.120 I went out to audition for a musical and the 0:04:24.160 --> 0:04:26.360 guy I had been on Broadway. The guy knew my 0:04:26.360 --> 0:04:31.320 my chops, I guess, but he smiled very kindly and 0:04:31.400 --> 0:04:36.240 somewhat condescendingly. After I finished the song It's a thank 0:04:36.279 --> 0:04:40.560 you Bill. I knew I wasn't going to get the 0:04:40.680 --> 0:04:42.080 job because I couldn't sing. 0:04:42.279 --> 0:04:43.000 What show was that? 0:04:43.040 --> 0:04:45.039 If I might ask, I don't remember the show, but 0:04:45.120 --> 0:04:48.200 I remember the kindly look because because I had been 0:04:48.240 --> 0:04:51.560 an actor in straight plays, and so he wasn't going 0:04:51.640 --> 0:04:54.040 to dismiss me and saying we'll go ahead and we 0:04:54.160 --> 0:04:57.440 might call it. He had enough respect to be kind 0:04:57.839 --> 0:04:59.880 to say thank you and the smile on his face. 0:05:00.560 --> 0:05:02.520 But I knew then that I'd made a big mistake. 0:05:03.680 --> 0:05:06.600 After that, I was. I tried taking singing lessons, and 0:05:06.720 --> 0:05:12.920 I got to solfeggio and relative pitch, which you can train. 0:05:13.160 --> 0:05:16.960 As I'm telling your audiences, you can train your ear 0:05:17.440 --> 0:05:19.240 if you do enough on a key to a piano 0:05:19.360 --> 0:05:22.400 or a guitar and you hit that note. H oh, 0:05:22.440 --> 0:05:25.600 that's an april. And you can train if with years 0:05:25.920 --> 0:05:28.719 as you have done, as you guys have done so brilliantly, 0:05:29.360 --> 0:05:32.160 you can train your ear for relative pitch. I didn't 0:05:32.200 --> 0:05:35.240 even get that far. But what I got to do 0:05:35.400 --> 0:05:37.960 is I was. I was an actor in the classics 0:05:38.000 --> 0:05:42.200 for many years, dealing a lot with iambic pentameter and 0:05:42.440 --> 0:05:47.120 poetry and right and in a way that's singing poetry. 0:05:48.880 --> 0:05:54.839 There is a melodic line in poetry, so that spoken 0:05:54.920 --> 0:05:59.760 word and singing is not that far apart. It's enough 0:05:59.760 --> 0:06:04.080 far part that's many times in my case it doesn't 0:06:04.240 --> 0:06:09.400 really work. But singing and speaking in rhythm and in 0:06:10.720 --> 0:06:14.240 music is possible, and I think that's what I do. 0:06:15.000 --> 0:06:17.240 So you do it. Well, wow, I'm very excited to 0:06:17.279 --> 0:06:19.400 hear this with this middle album. 0:06:19.600 --> 0:06:25.320 I was talking about this earlier today the Awards for 0:06:25.560 --> 0:06:29.080 Science Fiction, and they said, would you sing rocket Man? 0:06:30.320 --> 0:06:32.640 And I said, well, okay, I'll do it. I was 0:06:32.680 --> 0:06:34.760 in front of an audience. They had the lyrics there 0:06:35.200 --> 0:06:38.200 and and I did rocket Band and I did the 0:06:38.240 --> 0:06:43.120 best I could, doing Frank Sinatra. Cigarette caller was open. 0:06:43.160 --> 0:06:46.920 I was doing rocket Man is Frank Sinatra. It wasn't 0:06:46.960 --> 0:06:49.960 supposed to be recorded, but they had recorded. And it's 0:06:50.080 --> 0:06:54.719 followed me all since then. Fifty years ago, it's followed me. 0:06:55.440 --> 0:06:58.400 Rocket Band, Hey rock a band. Three four months ago, 0:06:58.920 --> 0:07:02.120 there was a cruise ship Star Trek cruise ship and 0:07:02.160 --> 0:07:04.279 they said, when you come on the cruise and all 0:07:04.320 --> 0:07:09.840 we want you to do is sing Rocketman. So and 0:07:09.880 --> 0:07:11.400 they were going to pay me a lot of money, 0:07:11.400 --> 0:07:13.160 so I said, okay, I'll do a rocket Man. I 0:07:13.160 --> 0:07:18.280 got there. They had a band, really incredible musicians. In 0:07:18.360 --> 0:07:22.160 looking more carefully at the lyric that he wrote, there's 0:07:22.200 --> 0:07:26.200 a lot about the astronaut is afraid of being alone. 0:07:26.680 --> 0:07:29.000 There's a lot about the emotion. I think it's going 0:07:29.040 --> 0:07:32.560 to be a long long time. And I had this 0:07:32.680 --> 0:07:36.120 band and I said, I'm going to reinterpret the song 0:07:36.800 --> 0:07:39.920 as an actor would. There's a lot about a loonness here, 0:07:40.160 --> 0:07:41.840 and I'm going to be frightened to be alone. I'm 0:07:41.840 --> 0:07:44.880 going to be alone. And we played it that way, 0:07:45.840 --> 0:07:48.440 and there was four thousand people on the cruise ship. 0:07:48.800 --> 0:07:51.119 They didn't have a theater big enough, so they wanted 0:07:51.160 --> 0:07:54.080 me to do it twice. I did it twice, and 0:07:54.160 --> 0:07:55.800 I didn't know how it was going to go. I 0:07:55.840 --> 0:07:58.480 was just doing the best I could and I did 0:07:58.760 --> 0:08:02.600 my version of rocket Man and they stood up and 0:08:02.640 --> 0:08:05.440 they applauded. Two thousand people applauded, thank you very much. 0:08:05.640 --> 0:08:08.440 I'm going to get off, and they wouldn't let me off. 0:08:09.160 --> 0:08:13.000 They were so been, so moved by that interpretation of Rocketman. 0:08:13.720 --> 0:08:17.000 Well then I did it again later in part of 0:08:17.040 --> 0:08:19.600 another audience, and they did the same thing. They wouldn't 0:08:19.640 --> 0:08:23.400 let me off the stage because I found the truth 0:08:24.280 --> 0:08:27.920 of a song and it moved them like they hadn't 0:08:28.000 --> 0:08:30.560 heard before on anybody at debreting rocket Man. 0:08:30.760 --> 0:08:35.160 That's wonderful. I have also performed on a cruise ship, 0:08:36.120 --> 0:08:38.200 and I will say that it was it was one 0:08:38.200 --> 0:08:43.920 of the more challenging performances. Well, I sort of got 0:08:44.080 --> 0:08:47.640 seasick while it was happening, and the stage was moving, 0:08:47.920 --> 0:08:51.839 you know, and we were on some rough water. Did 0:08:51.880 --> 0:08:54.800 you experience some rough water when you were singing rocommend. 0:08:55.200 --> 0:08:58.240 We were in the roughest seas of all in the darkness. 0:08:58.440 --> 0:09:01.480 Oh wow, no way, and you still had them in 0:09:01.520 --> 0:09:02.440 the palm of your hands. 0:09:02.559 --> 0:09:04.520 See and talking about being alone. I wanted to be 0:09:04.559 --> 0:09:06.720 an astronaut when I was a kid, did you? I 0:09:06.920 --> 0:09:07.800 absolutely wanted. 0:09:07.960 --> 0:09:10.280 What did you do to make your dream come true? 0:09:10.360 --> 0:09:13.480 I am My dream did not come true? Picked guitar 0:09:14.120 --> 0:09:14.840 to the stars. 0:09:15.200 --> 0:09:17.920 You could have named it a good star. This is 0:09:17.960 --> 0:09:19.280 a good star. 0:09:20.600 --> 0:09:24.600 I saw a film where the astronaut floated off into 0:09:24.640 --> 0:09:27.199 space and no one could get him and into the darkness, 0:09:27.240 --> 0:09:29.959 and I said, that's not I'm never going to space. 0:09:30.040 --> 0:09:32.320 But you went to space and you lived my dream. 0:09:32.840 --> 0:09:35.000 You've been to space now and you played one of 0:09:35.040 --> 0:09:39.040 the more iconic space travelers, I would say the most iconic. 0:09:39.840 --> 0:09:44.040 Our Our father is a big fan. Raised I could 0:09:44.200 --> 0:09:45.880 that you can't you can't do that. 0:09:46.360 --> 0:09:48.480 I can't separate. That's the best I can do. 0:09:48.840 --> 0:09:52.040 It's there in theory. But then you got this chance 0:09:52.120 --> 0:09:55.800 to go to space, which I think, you know, on 0:09:55.840 --> 0:09:59.240 top of it just being a great experience, I'm sure, 0:09:59.600 --> 0:10:00.960 or a memory of a lifetime, what I think it 0:10:00.960 --> 0:10:03.640 did for others who have dreamed, you know, when they 0:10:03.679 --> 0:10:06.280 were kids, or or you know, fall in love with 0:10:06.280 --> 0:10:09.680 with shows that that touch on you know, you know, 0:10:09.800 --> 0:10:13.040 science fiction and space travel. It really sent a message 0:10:13.080 --> 0:10:16.560 of hope, and I think it was a really beautiful thing. 0:10:16.920 --> 0:10:18.679 Can you tell us how this came about and what 0:10:18.720 --> 0:10:20.360 the experience was like from your perspective. 0:10:20.640 --> 0:10:22.560 So it must have been about five years ago. I 0:10:22.600 --> 0:10:26.040 read in the paper this producer and I Jeff Bezos 0:10:27.480 --> 0:10:33.319 space arm called Blue Origin was forming and they had 0:10:33.320 --> 0:10:36.880 a rocket and they had a cabin, a spaceship and 0:10:38.320 --> 0:10:42.080 they were going to launch it in a year. And 0:10:43.120 --> 0:10:46.880 so my friend and I said, jeez, they should put 0:10:46.880 --> 0:10:49.600 me up there. And we called ahead and they said, ah, 0:10:49.600 --> 0:10:52.760 it's a great idea. Come up to Seattle to Amazon 0:10:52.840 --> 0:10:56.600 headquarters and let's talk about it. So we flew up 0:10:56.640 --> 0:11:03.080 to Seattle and went into the lobby of Amazon, and 0:11:03.120 --> 0:11:07.400 there this enormous lobby was a big table with a dome, 0:11:08.240 --> 0:11:11.199 a clear dome over it, and when we looked at it, 0:11:11.200 --> 0:11:16.360 it was it was the model of the spaceship the Enterprise. 0:11:16.720 --> 0:11:21.040 It was the actual model. They now retired it, and 0:11:21.240 --> 0:11:24.680 Beza somehow acquired it and put it in the center 0:11:24.720 --> 0:11:25.199 of his lock. 0:11:25.440 --> 0:11:26.880 I wonder how he acquired it. 0:11:26.960 --> 0:11:29.560 Yeah, yes, probably money. 0:11:29.920 --> 0:11:30.760 And lots of it. 0:11:30.920 --> 0:11:33.680 Yeah, well to you and me. 0:11:35.400 --> 0:11:38.080 Yeah, he's like, oh that little thing, sure, put it 0:11:38.080 --> 0:11:38.720 in the lobby. 0:11:39.240 --> 0:11:42.839 You want that amount? Good. So he met me there 0:11:42.920 --> 0:11:45.640 in the lobby and we started talking about Star Trek 0:11:45.640 --> 0:11:48.160 and turns out he was a big fan of Star Trek. 0:11:48.400 --> 0:11:51.480 And then we go sit down at a table at 0:11:51.480 --> 0:11:55.400 a board table and a couple of his advisors and 0:11:55.520 --> 0:11:58.880 my friend and I and we say, you know you're 0:11:58.880 --> 0:12:02.360 going to shoot that rock up there, Captain Kirk should 0:12:02.360 --> 0:12:03.840 be on the first rock. And he says that's a 0:12:03.840 --> 0:12:07.959 great idea. Why absolutely, So we go home. Yeah, we'll 0:12:07.960 --> 0:12:10.480 call you. I call you. Then COVID hits this that 0:12:10.559 --> 0:12:13.960 stuff a long ago it was, and COVID hits and 0:12:14.000 --> 0:12:17.680 the whole thing's canceled. And then we a year goes 0:12:17.720 --> 0:12:20.320 by and COVID is manageable. And we read in the 0:12:20.320 --> 0:12:28.239 paper Jeff Bezos and his brother and a woman astronaut 0:12:28.320 --> 0:12:31.000 who didn't go up into space, and a young guy 0:12:31.000 --> 0:12:34.360 and teenager were the four people who are going to 0:12:34.440 --> 0:12:36.960 go on the first voyage up. And I said to 0:12:37.000 --> 0:12:39.600 my friend, now, I guess that's that's too bad, because 0:12:39.600 --> 0:12:43.240 it would have been an interesting experience. So Jeff Bezos 0:12:43.280 --> 0:12:47.800 goes up with his brother and the astronaut and the 0:12:47.880 --> 0:12:51.640 and the young boy and uh. And then they call 0:12:52.840 --> 0:12:55.880 and they say, would you like to go second? And 0:12:55.920 --> 0:13:01.240 I said, I don't do second. I don't, but I thought, 0:13:01.280 --> 0:13:03.679 you know, I don't know whether second is a good idea. 0:13:04.360 --> 0:13:11.480 And then I thought, my basic living philosophy is do 0:13:11.600 --> 0:13:14.600 everything you can, just jump in and do it, and 0:13:14.679 --> 0:13:17.760 if it fails, you know, if that album doesn't work, 0:13:17.760 --> 0:13:19.720 you'll do another album or you won't. 0:13:19.920 --> 0:13:22.000 So the question is how many aliens did you see 0:13:22.080 --> 0:13:23.000 while you were up there? 0:13:23.400 --> 0:13:26.800 Seventeen? It was a half an alien, half. 0:13:26.600 --> 0:13:27.440 An alien half? 0:13:29.920 --> 0:13:31.760 How deep does it go? Like did they prep you 0:13:31.800 --> 0:13:33.760 in advance of this? Be Like if you see something 0:13:33.760 --> 0:13:36.079 that you're not supposed to talk about. 0:13:35.960 --> 0:13:38.760 That would have been wonderful what I did see, because 0:13:39.160 --> 0:13:42.439 you can imagine that the spaceship itself was had a 0:13:42.480 --> 0:13:44.400 lot of cameras in it. They were it was a 0:13:44.440 --> 0:13:46.440 television you know, they were going to release it as 0:13:46.440 --> 0:13:51.360 a television thing. And I saw television of Jeff Bezos 0:13:51.120 --> 0:13:55.679 in weightlessness, and he was if you're the camera, the 0:13:55.679 --> 0:13:58.320 camera was pointing this way, and his legs were like 0:13:58.360 --> 0:14:03.080 my fingers. He's on his stomach floating in waitlessness and 0:14:03.120 --> 0:14:07.280 his legs are apart, and the kid is throwing candies 0:14:08.080 --> 0:14:15.520 at his rear end. Classically, that's how Jeff experienced a 0:14:15.520 --> 0:14:17.320 part of the space things. So I thought, I'm not 0:14:17.320 --> 0:14:18.920 going to do well. 0:14:18.920 --> 0:14:20.440 I would think that that there would have to be 0:14:20.480 --> 0:14:23.560 some level of due diligence right beforehand. Was there any 0:14:23.800 --> 0:14:27.960 training or heads up about what you might experience physically? 0:14:28.440 --> 0:14:34.480 Yeah? So they said, come on, We've arranged for the 0:14:34.560 --> 0:14:40.000 transportation for a Monday morning and we'll train to Wednesday Thursday, 0:14:40.520 --> 0:14:43.400 and if we think you and the other three people 0:14:43.400 --> 0:14:46.160 are going with you are ready, we'll send you up 0:14:46.160 --> 0:14:47.680 Wednesay or Thursday. What. 0:14:48.480 --> 0:14:53.360 Wow? How long is the trip in total? Up? Like 0:14:53.520 --> 0:14:54.120 getting up there? 0:14:54.160 --> 0:14:57.640 Down? Depends when you start counting. When they started the 0:14:57.680 --> 0:15:01.680 countdown with me that it is, say sixteen, hold it, 0:15:03.080 --> 0:15:06.680 there's an alao. What the hou's in layo? Alao is 0:15:06.760 --> 0:15:07.920 something doesn't belong there? 0:15:08.080 --> 0:15:09.280 Oh, no, in alien. 0:15:09.480 --> 0:15:13.480 So they held a countdown. What the hell's that? Oh? 0:15:13.520 --> 0:15:18.360 What about the OL's gone seventeen, fourteen, thirteen, got to 0:15:18.400 --> 0:15:21.520 about twelve and they said, all right, and this is 0:15:21.560 --> 0:15:24.560 the God's truth. They said, Okay, we're gonna take the 0:15:24.600 --> 0:15:28.120 gantry away now. Anybody who wants to get off should 0:15:28.120 --> 0:15:28.760 get off. Now. 0:15:31.720 --> 0:15:33.280 Is that what is a right of disney World? 0:15:33.400 --> 0:15:37.800 Yeah, like it's a ride at Disney World. And I've 0:15:37.880 --> 0:15:40.320 spoken about it and said and I made my way, 0:15:40.480 --> 0:15:43.520 I was gonna. I thought I can't. I'm Captain Kirk. 0:15:43.560 --> 0:15:46.080 I got as though, like I feel like I would 0:15:46.200 --> 0:15:48.160 be thinking about a lot of things. Obviously, you know, 0:15:48.480 --> 0:15:51.240 the incredible nature that you are actually twenty ninety five 0:15:51.320 --> 0:15:54.120 is insane, right, It's amazing that you've had this career 0:15:54.160 --> 0:15:55.240 and doing something like this. 0:15:55.800 --> 0:15:57.760 Yeah, then maybe it is in ninety five. Maybe I'm 0:15:57.760 --> 0:15:58.280 thirty two. 0:15:58.640 --> 0:16:01.320 I think you are. Definitely you have the spirit of 0:16:01.360 --> 0:16:02.480 a thirty time definitely. 0:16:02.920 --> 0:16:05.000 Anyway, I didn't get off. The thing went up and 0:16:05.040 --> 0:16:07.040 it was like an elephant sitting on your chest. The 0:16:07.160 --> 0:16:10.640 geez can't believe it. Oh, would you do it again? 0:16:11.120 --> 0:16:14.240 I had such an enormous experience that to do it 0:16:14.280 --> 0:16:16.480 again is like being false to somebody you loved. 0:16:16.880 --> 0:16:21.120 MM, it's beautiful. It's beautiful because you were a poet. 0:16:21.160 --> 0:16:24.200 You were so poetic. Do you have a favorite poem yourself? 0:16:24.680 --> 0:16:29.240 I've written the writing partner. His name is Robert Scherno, 0:16:29.680 --> 0:16:32.480 friend of mine, who is a great poet, and we've 0:16:32.480 --> 0:16:39.040 written the lyrics to five or more albums, which he 0:16:39.520 --> 0:16:42.480 then gathered all the lyrics and we've made a book. 0:16:42.600 --> 0:16:46.600 And each song has a meaning to me. I wrote 0:16:46.600 --> 0:16:49.360 a song about leaving home. I wrote a song about 0:16:49.600 --> 0:16:54.920 my journey to Toronto to begin my career. An audience 0:16:54.960 --> 0:16:57.920 that was cautioned not to meet in the Apollo Theater 0:16:58.000 --> 0:17:00.560 in London, don't be there. No more than ten people 0:17:00.600 --> 0:17:03.840 can meet because of COVID. I arrive and I know 0:17:03.880 --> 0:17:06.760 this's sold out audience prior to my going in to 0:17:06.840 --> 0:17:09.920 thirty five hundred people. And I've sold out, and I'm 0:17:09.920 --> 0:17:13.359 behind the curtain. I'm thinking, God, I wonder if anybody's there. 0:17:13.760 --> 0:17:17.480 And the curtain opens and thirty five hundred people are there. 0:17:17.760 --> 0:17:22.040 They had defied the Prime Minister's edict no more than 0:17:22.080 --> 0:17:24.600 ten people. Thirty five hundred people waited to see me, 0:17:24.920 --> 0:17:28.040 and tears rolling down my eyes and tears rolling down 0:17:28.080 --> 0:17:34.679 their eyes. It was a moment of communion that is unreal. 0:17:34.960 --> 0:17:39.480 You will see lyrics that are so meaningful and yet poetic. 0:17:40.160 --> 0:17:42.919 It's extraordiny. I'm so happy with it. 0:17:43.000 --> 0:17:45.439 I can't wait to check it out. We've got some 0:17:45.640 --> 0:17:49.320 questions from your adoring fans. Yeah, they've written in, they've 0:17:49.320 --> 0:17:51.480 called in, they've text us, they tweeted us. The first 0:17:51.520 --> 0:17:54.000 is from Zach and he says, in twenty twenty six, 0:17:54.280 --> 0:17:56.399 in what ways as a society are we closer to 0:17:56.440 --> 0:18:00.560 the future imagined in Star Trek twenty well to one 0:18:00.640 --> 0:18:03.200 hundred and sixty five then you expected when you started 0:18:03.200 --> 0:18:06.280 filming the sixties? And in what ways are we further away? 0:18:06.800 --> 0:18:11.080 Good question. Artemis two four astronauts could have put a 0:18:11.280 --> 0:18:15.880 robot in a lot of people's opinion mine too, that 0:18:16.080 --> 0:18:20.919 the machines aboard the Artemis would have taken just as 0:18:20.960 --> 0:18:24.040 good pictures and maybe analyze the back of the moon 0:18:24.240 --> 0:18:27.639 more than just eyesight. I heard one of them say 0:18:27.840 --> 0:18:32.680 that the precision that your eyesight has is more than 0:18:32.720 --> 0:18:36.679 the instruments, and I don't believe that they were making 0:18:36.720 --> 0:18:42.320 a case for sending a live astronaut to space, whereas 0:18:43.680 --> 0:18:47.639 with AI and the cameras we have, you could make 0:18:47.680 --> 0:18:50.200 a case for not sending any human beings and getting 0:18:50.240 --> 0:18:53.480 all that information through mechanical means, sending it back and 0:18:53.520 --> 0:18:57.520 running it through AI, and you've got your journey to 0:18:57.520 --> 0:19:01.080 the stars. There's an argument to be made that human 0:19:01.160 --> 0:19:06.560 beings and their vulnerability is a detriment, and that's sending 0:19:06.640 --> 0:19:10.879 these sophisticated machines and we're only beginning to see the robots. 0:19:11.320 --> 0:19:18.479 I did a I'm writing a book on the effect 0:19:18.640 --> 0:19:21.520 on people that I interviewed the effect of Star Trek 0:19:21.560 --> 0:19:24.480 on those people, and I thought, well, it's a good idea. 0:19:25.400 --> 0:19:28.760 It's such an incredible idea. I talked to a guy 0:19:28.960 --> 0:19:32.840 whose only connection with humanity was a mechanical dog and 0:19:32.880 --> 0:19:35.280 a mechanical robot in the house that took care of 0:19:35.320 --> 0:19:38.320 the house, and the dog patrols the outside of the house, 0:19:38.520 --> 0:19:41.000 and he has a fifty minute drive to work where 0:19:41.040 --> 0:19:46.320 he teaches mechanics. He's totally rejected humanity and he drives 0:19:46.320 --> 0:19:48.280 with the mechanical dog. As I had my hand on 0:19:48.359 --> 0:19:52.440 my dog, we get to the he's identified with mechanics 0:19:53.320 --> 0:19:56.960 he has and as a result of watching Star Trek. 0:19:57.119 --> 0:20:01.399 I mean, amazing story wo this book is going to show. 0:20:01.880 --> 0:20:05.400 I mean, it's just I had no idea. I've done 0:20:06.040 --> 0:20:13.960 some celebrities Seth McFarland, Been Stiller, Ben Folds, but I 0:20:13.960 --> 0:20:17.080 mean I've got some really interesting people whose name you 0:20:17.119 --> 0:20:21.600 would know. But as interesting or even more so, are 0:20:21.640 --> 0:20:26.760 these people who whose whole life was guided by Star Trek. 0:20:27.160 --> 0:20:30.159 And I'm thinking I'm an actor. 0:20:30.680 --> 0:20:35.000 If there is other life forms out there that have 0:20:35.200 --> 0:20:39.320 watched Star Trek, there are other ding ding ding there 0:20:39.359 --> 0:20:43.440 you go, maybe they have watched you on Star Trek. 0:20:43.640 --> 0:20:45.480 They have a galaxy quest to remember that one a 0:20:45.480 --> 0:20:47.280 bit of nod to Star Trek totally. 0:20:47.800 --> 0:20:56.440 Well, there's there's a several shows of mankind civilization that 0:20:56.560 --> 0:20:59.320 set out radio signals for the last hundred years. So 0:20:59.359 --> 0:21:02.480 those radios signals have gone someplace. And I wrote a 0:21:02.480 --> 0:21:06.040 show about the radio signals reaching a planet and them 0:21:06.080 --> 0:21:09.479 saying we got to go there, and it's you know, 0:21:09.960 --> 0:21:13.840 ten billion light years away, so it's going to take 0:21:13.880 --> 0:21:16.600 forever to get here, and on the way, like every 0:21:16.680 --> 0:21:21.080 other explorer spends a lot of time in nowhere. They 0:21:21.119 --> 0:21:23.640 forgot after all that time, they've forgotten what their original 0:21:23.640 --> 0:21:28.000 mission was. They were just they were just civilization going someplace. 0:21:28.760 --> 0:21:29.800 I mean, that's possible. 0:21:29.920 --> 0:21:32.359 Absolutely sounds like a good play. I have a question 0:21:32.359 --> 0:21:34.480 for you as a so we've got, you know, questions 0:21:34.480 --> 0:21:37.240 from the fans. This is my fan question for you, Oh, 0:21:37.960 --> 0:21:40.560 Nick Jonas. So yeah, this is Nick Jonas writing into 0:21:40.560 --> 0:21:44.280 the age of this podcast. I got to ask you. 0:21:44.280 --> 0:21:47.000 You had so many iconic roles, and obviously Star trek 0:21:47.240 --> 0:21:52.560 Is is one of, if not the most iconic space 0:21:52.600 --> 0:21:57.120 travel and sci fi thing ever. But in your opinion, 0:21:57.440 --> 0:22:00.840 looking at your your filmography and your career, what would 0:22:00.880 --> 0:22:04.280 you say is your most underrated project that you've worked 0:22:04.320 --> 0:22:06.720 on and that you wish people would take more time 0:22:06.800 --> 0:22:08.640 to go and discover or focus on. 0:22:09.200 --> 0:22:12.040 I had a dramatic moment when I came out of 0:22:12.080 --> 0:22:12.560 the womb. 0:22:14.560 --> 0:22:18.560 Now we're talking, Yeah, no, I was, you were. 0:22:18.640 --> 0:22:20.840 It was so raw and I don't think of those 0:22:20.880 --> 0:22:24.080 terms anymore. Let me ask you that question. Let me 0:22:24.080 --> 0:22:30.320 ask you, so all the wonderful numbers and the idolatry 0:22:30.320 --> 0:22:36.360 that you've received over your incredible careers. What is your 0:22:36.400 --> 0:22:37.800 favorite moment? 0:22:38.119 --> 0:22:39.440 Well, I was just gonna say, I think from from 0:22:39.480 --> 0:22:43.000 a music perspective, there are things that just naturally fall 0:22:43.040 --> 0:22:43.720 through the cracks. 0:22:44.040 --> 0:22:46.720 Name one, give me one that is your favorite moment. 0:22:46.920 --> 0:22:49.399 Honestly, it was this last album I made. I was 0:22:49.480 --> 0:22:52.240 very proud of the creative process and look at the 0:22:52.240 --> 0:22:54.320 solo records called Sunday Best. 0:22:54.560 --> 0:22:56.520