1 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 1: Illness. So April twenty fifth. If I asked you what 2 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: the significance of that date is, what would you say? Easter? 3 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:20,279 Speaker 1: No incorrect? William Shatner's birthday incorrect. April twenty fifth is 4 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: described as a perfect date from the movie Miscongeniality Ah 5 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: Miss Rhode Island. She has asked, could you describe your 6 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: perfect date by William Shatner? William Shatner to what she replies, 7 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: I would have to say April twenty fifth. It's not 8 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: too hot and not too cold as an iconic line, 9 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 1: and it is. She's not wrong, She's not wrong. It 10 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: has still with me, stuck with me forever, April twenty fifth, 11 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: So I celebrate it. I'm actually one of the many 12 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: people throughout the world who celebrates April twenty fifth as 13 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: a national and international holiday. So national date day lines 14 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: like that iconic moments in film are are no stranger 15 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: to our guests. They have many going all the way 16 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 1: back to Star Trek h our dad would say this 17 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: all the time space the Final Frontier, Captain Kirk played 18 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 1: by none of then William Jashatner, thee Williams shutter to 19 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 1: boldly go where no one has gone before is a 20 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: crazy line that used line that he said. He said, 21 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: you imagine having a line like that that's so iconic 22 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: that it it just it becomes a part of the 23 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: English vernacular. 24 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:29,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like if you didn't know, I would think that 25 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 2: that was what buzz Aldrin said. 26 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: I thought I would say that was in the Bible. 27 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: He's years old, years he looks incredible. You know him well, 28 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 1: and it's him quite well. It's kind of wild our relationship. 29 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: But there was a time when I signed him to 30 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: a recording deal. YEP, that's a thing that happened. I 31 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: had a joint venture. And for those of you who 32 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: don't know what that is, under Republic Records, Jonah Brothers 33 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: are signed by Republic Records. Is before the Jonah's Brothers 34 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:04,559 Speaker 1: signed to Republic Records. I was sitting around during COVID 35 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: and I just was scrolling on TikTok a lot, finding 36 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: all these amazing artists that had very little view COUNTSL 37 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 1: was like, these are amazing, Like I want to work 38 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 1: with these people. How do I do this? There a 39 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: record label underneath Republic called a joint venture. We signed 40 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: up a handful of people and William Shatner was one 41 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 1: of them because he does spoken word. He did a 42 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 1: spoken word album, so cool. I'm also featured on a 43 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: song called Clouds of Guilt that I sing and he 44 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: just spoken word. It's really trippy and such a vibe. 45 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: And he did an entire album a spoken word and 46 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 1: now he's gearing up to make a metal album. Fantastic. 47 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 1: I cannot just announced that. So we should definitely talk 48 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: to them about this. Yeah, please let's bring them on. Please, Hello, Hello, sir. 49 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 1: It is so good to meet you. I know Joe's 50 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: got a history with you and and and he just 51 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: kind of filled us in on where it all stem from. 52 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 1: But it is so great to meet you, such big fans, 53 00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: and I know everyone listening is obviously massive fens. Well, 54 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: so thanks for joining us. 55 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 3: Well thanks for asking me. I have somewhere in my 56 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 3: phone some of the names of the people who are 57 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 3: joining my medal. 58 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:10,959 Speaker 1: So your piece of it is spoken word? Or you 59 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 1: are you singing in this as well? 60 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 3: You might say, because three of you are such wonderful singers. 61 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 3: He does spoken word, he speaks, I who have difficulty 62 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 3: staying in tune. My pitch is not perfect. 63 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: Doesn't have to be. How did this come about? Please 64 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: tell us. 65 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 3: Which aspect my birth? My dad A great Why back. 66 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: To your earliest memory? He I would like to know 67 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: your earliest memory be more so, I guess the metal 68 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: album what's strong The site. 69 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 3: Cleopatra is the name of the label. And so when 70 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 3: I was doing Star Trek, Decca was like the biggest 71 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 3: whatever the equivalent is now record label. And they came 72 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 3: to me why I was shooting Star Trek and said 73 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 3: would you do an album? And I said, well, you know, 74 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 3: I took singing lessons and I but I never followed through. 75 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 3: And I had an idea that I would carry the 76 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 3: fret of a guitar so I could learn the fingerings. 77 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 3: Had those ambitious In fact my Broadway phase, I went out. 78 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 3: I went out to audition for a musical and the 79 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 3: guy I had been on Broadway. The guy knew my 80 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 3: my chops, I guess, but he smiled very kindly and 81 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 3: somewhat condescendingly. After I finished the song It's a thank 82 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 3: you Bill. I knew I wasn't going to get the 83 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 3: job because I couldn't sing. 84 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: What show was that? 85 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:45,039 Speaker 3: If I might ask, I don't remember the show, but 86 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 3: I remember the kindly look because because I had been 87 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 3: an actor in straight plays, and so he wasn't going 88 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 3: to dismiss me and saying we'll go ahead and we 89 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 3: might call it. He had enough respect to be kind 90 00:04:57,839 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 3: to say thank you and the smile on his face. 91 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 3: But I knew then that I'd made a big mistake. 92 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 3: After that, I was. I tried taking singing lessons, and 93 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 3: I got to solfeggio and relative pitch, which you can train. 94 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 3: As I'm telling your audiences, you can train your ear 95 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 3: if you do enough on a key to a piano 96 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 3: or a guitar and you hit that note. H oh, 97 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 3: that's an april. And you can train if with years 98 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 3: as you have done, as you guys have done so brilliantly, 99 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 3: you can train your ear for relative pitch. I didn't 100 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 3: even get that far. But what I got to do 101 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 3: is I was. I was an actor in the classics 102 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 3: for many years, dealing a lot with iambic pentameter and 103 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 3: poetry and right and in a way that's singing poetry. 104 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 3: There is a melodic line in poetry, so that spoken 105 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 3: word and singing is not that far apart. It's enough 106 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 3: far part that's many times in my case it doesn't 107 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 3: really work. But singing and speaking in rhythm and in 108 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 3: music is possible, and I think that's what I do. 109 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 1: So you do it. Well, wow, I'm very excited to 110 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: hear this with this middle album. 111 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 3: I was talking about this earlier today the Awards for 112 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 3: Science Fiction, and they said, would you sing rocket Man? 113 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 3: And I said, well, okay, I'll do it. I was 114 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 3: in front of an audience. They had the lyrics there 115 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 3: and and I did rocket Band and I did the 116 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 3: best I could, doing Frank Sinatra. Cigarette caller was open. 117 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 3: I was doing rocket Man is Frank Sinatra. It wasn't 118 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 3: supposed to be recorded, but they had recorded. And it's 119 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 3: followed me all since then. Fifty years ago, it's followed me. 120 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 3: Rocket Band, Hey rock a band. Three four months ago, 121 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 3: there was a cruise ship Star Trek cruise ship and 122 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 3: they said, when you come on the cruise and all 123 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 3: we want you to do is sing Rocketman. So and 124 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 3: they were going to pay me a lot of money, 125 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 3: so I said, okay, I'll do a rocket Man. I 126 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 3: got there. They had a band, really incredible musicians. In 127 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 3: looking more carefully at the lyric that he wrote, there's 128 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 3: a lot about the astronaut is afraid of being alone. 129 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 3: There's a lot about the emotion. I think it's going 130 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 3: to be a long long time. And I had this 131 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 3: band and I said, I'm going to reinterpret the song 132 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 3: as an actor would. There's a lot about a loonness here, 133 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 3: and I'm going to be frightened to be alone. I'm 134 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 3: going to be alone. And we played it that way, 135 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 3: and there was four thousand people on the cruise ship. 136 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:51,119 Speaker 3: They didn't have a theater big enough, so they wanted 137 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 3: me to do it twice. I did it twice, and 138 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 3: I didn't know how it was going to go. I 139 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 3: was just doing the best I could and I did 140 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 3: my version of rocket Man and they stood up and 141 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 3: they applauded. Two thousand people applauded, thank you very much. 142 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 3: I'm going to get off, and they wouldn't let me off. 143 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 3: They were so been, so moved by that interpretation of Rocketman. 144 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 3: Well then I did it again later in part of 145 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 3: another audience, and they did the same thing. They wouldn't 146 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 3: let me off the stage because I found the truth 147 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 3: of a song and it moved them like they hadn't 148 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 3: heard before on anybody at debreting rocket Man. 149 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: That's wonderful. I have also performed on a cruise ship, 150 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 1: and I will say that it was it was one 151 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: of the more challenging performances. Well, I sort of got 152 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: seasick while it was happening, and the stage was moving, 153 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:51,839 Speaker 1: you know, and we were on some rough water. Did 154 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: you experience some rough water when you were singing rocommend. 155 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 3: We were in the roughest seas of all in the darkness. 156 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: Oh wow, no way, and you still had them in 157 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 1: the palm of your hands. 158 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 2: See and talking about being alone. I wanted to be 159 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 2: an astronaut when I was a kid, did you? I 160 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 2: absolutely wanted. 161 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 3: What did you do to make your dream come true? 162 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: I am My dream did not come true? Picked guitar 163 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 1: to the stars. 164 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 3: You could have named it a good star. This is 165 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 3: a good star. 166 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 2: I saw a film where the astronaut floated off into 167 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:27,199 Speaker 2: space and no one could get him and into the darkness, 168 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:29,959 Speaker 2: and I said, that's not I'm never going to space. 169 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 2: But you went to space and you lived my dream. 170 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: You've been to space now and you played one of 171 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: the more iconic space travelers, I would say the most iconic. 172 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: Our Our father is a big fan. Raised I could 173 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: that you can't you can't do that. 174 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 3: I can't separate. That's the best I can do. 175 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: It's there in theory. But then you got this chance 176 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: to go to space, which I think, you know, on 177 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: top of it just being a great experience, I'm sure, 178 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 1: or a memory of a lifetime, what I think it 179 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: did for others who have dreamed, you know, when they 180 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: were kids, or or you know, fall in love with 181 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 1: with shows that that touch on you know, you know, 182 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: science fiction and space travel. It really sent a message 183 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 1: of hope, and I think it was a really beautiful thing. 184 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:18,679 Speaker 1: Can you tell us how this came about and what 185 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: the experience was like from your perspective. 186 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 3: So it must have been about five years ago. I 187 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 3: read in the paper this producer and I Jeff Bezos 188 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:33,319 Speaker 3: space arm called Blue Origin was forming and they had 189 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 3: a rocket and they had a cabin, a spaceship and 190 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 3: they were going to launch it in a year. And 191 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 3: so my friend and I said, jeez, they should put 192 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 3: me up there. And we called ahead and they said, ah, 193 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 3: it's a great idea. Come up to Seattle to Amazon 194 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 3: headquarters and let's talk about it. So we flew up 195 00:10:56,640 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 3: to Seattle and went into the lobby of Amazon, and 196 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 3: there this enormous lobby was a big table with a dome, 197 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:11,199 Speaker 3: a clear dome over it, and when we looked at it, 198 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 3: it was it was the model of the spaceship the Enterprise. 199 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 3: It was the actual model. They now retired it, and 200 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 3: Beza somehow acquired it and put it in the center 201 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:25,199 Speaker 3: of his lock. 202 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 1: I wonder how he acquired it. 203 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, probably money. 204 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: And lots of it. 205 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, well to you and me. 206 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's like, oh that little thing, sure, put it 207 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 1: in the lobby. 208 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:42,839 Speaker 3: You want that amount? Good. So he met me there 209 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 3: in the lobby and we started talking about Star Trek 210 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 3: and turns out he was a big fan of Star Trek. 211 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 3: And then we go sit down at a table at 212 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 3: a board table and a couple of his advisors and 213 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 3: my friend and I and we say, you know you're 214 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 3: going to shoot that rock up there, Captain Kirk should 215 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 3: be on the first rock. And he says that's a 216 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:07,959 Speaker 3: great idea. Why absolutely, So we go home. Yeah, we'll 217 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 3: call you. I call you. Then COVID hits this that 218 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 3: stuff a long ago it was, and COVID hits and 219 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 3: the whole thing's canceled. And then we a year goes 220 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 3: by and COVID is manageable. And we read in the 221 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:28,239 Speaker 3: paper Jeff Bezos and his brother and a woman astronaut 222 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 3: who didn't go up into space, and a young guy 223 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 3: and teenager were the four people who are going to 224 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 3: go on the first voyage up. And I said to 225 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 3: my friend, now, I guess that's that's too bad, because 226 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 3: it would have been an interesting experience. So Jeff Bezos 227 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 3: goes up with his brother and the astronaut and the 228 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 3: and the young boy and uh. And then they call 229 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 3: and they say, would you like to go second? And 230 00:12:55,920 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 3: I said, I don't do second. I don't, but I thought, 231 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:03,679 Speaker 3: you know, I don't know whether second is a good idea. 232 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 3: And then I thought, my basic living philosophy is do 233 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 3: everything you can, just jump in and do it, and 234 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 3: if it fails, you know, if that album doesn't work, 235 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 3: you'll do another album or you won't. 236 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 2: So the question is how many aliens did you see 237 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 2: while you were up there? 238 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 3: Seventeen? It was a half an alien, half. 239 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 1: An alien half? 240 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 2: How deep does it go? Like did they prep you 241 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 2: in advance of this? Be Like if you see something 242 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:36,079 Speaker 2: that you're not supposed to talk about. 243 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 3: That would have been wonderful what I did see, because 244 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:42,439 Speaker 3: you can imagine that the spaceship itself was had a 245 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 3: lot of cameras in it. They were it was a 246 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 3: television you know, they were going to release it as 247 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 3: a television thing. And I saw television of Jeff Bezos 248 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:55,679 Speaker 3: in weightlessness, and he was if you're the camera, the 249 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 3: camera was pointing this way, and his legs were like 250 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 3: my fingers. He's on his stomach floating in waitlessness and 251 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 3: his legs are apart, and the kid is throwing candies 252 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 3: at his rear end. Classically, that's how Jeff experienced a 253 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 3: part of the space things. So I thought, I'm not 254 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 3: going to do well. 255 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: I would think that that there would have to be 256 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 1: some level of due diligence right beforehand. Was there any 257 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: training or heads up about what you might experience physically? 258 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 3: Yeah? So they said, come on, We've arranged for the 259 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 3: transportation for a Monday morning and we'll train to Wednesday Thursday, 260 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 3: and if we think you and the other three people 261 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 3: are going with you are ready, we'll send you up 262 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 3: Wednesay or Thursday. What. 263 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 1: Wow? How long is the trip in total? Up? Like 264 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 1: getting up there? 265 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 3: Down? Depends when you start counting. When they started the 266 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 3: countdown with me that it is, say sixteen, hold it, 267 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 3: there's an alao. What the hou's in layo? Alao is 268 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 3: something doesn't belong there? 269 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: Oh, no, in alien. 270 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 3: So they held a countdown. What the hell's that? Oh? 271 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 3: What about the OL's gone seventeen, fourteen, thirteen, got to 272 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 3: about twelve and they said, all right, and this is 273 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 3: the God's truth. They said, Okay, we're gonna take the 274 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 3: gantry away now. Anybody who wants to get off should 275 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 3: get off. Now. 276 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 1: Is that what is a right of disney World? 277 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, like it's a ride at Disney World. And I've 278 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 3: spoken about it and said and I made my way, 279 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 3: I was gonna. I thought I can't. I'm Captain Kirk. 280 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 2: I got as though, like I feel like I would 281 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 2: be thinking about a lot of things. Obviously, you know, 282 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 2: the incredible nature that you are actually twenty ninety five 283 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 2: is insane, right, It's amazing that you've had this career 284 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 2: and doing something like this. 285 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, then maybe it is in ninety five. Maybe I'm 286 00:15:57,760 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 3: thirty two. 287 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: I think you are. Definitely you have the spirit of 288 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 1: a thirty time definitely. 289 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 3: Anyway, I didn't get off. The thing went up and 290 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 3: it was like an elephant sitting on your chest. The 291 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 3: geez can't believe it. Oh, would you do it again? 292 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 3: I had such an enormous experience that to do it 293 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 3: again is like being false to somebody you loved. 294 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 1: MM, it's beautiful. It's beautiful because you were a poet. 295 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: You were so poetic. Do you have a favorite poem yourself? 296 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 3: I've written the writing partner. His name is Robert Scherno, 297 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 3: friend of mine, who is a great poet, and we've 298 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 3: written the lyrics to five or more albums, which he 299 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 3: then gathered all the lyrics and we've made a book. 300 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 3: And each song has a meaning to me. I wrote 301 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 3: a song about leaving home. I wrote a song about 302 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 3: my journey to Toronto to begin my career. An audience 303 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 3: that was cautioned not to meet in the Apollo Theater 304 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 3: in London, don't be there. No more than ten people 305 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 3: can meet because of COVID. I arrive and I know 306 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 3: this's sold out audience prior to my going in to 307 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 3: thirty five hundred people. And I've sold out, and I'm 308 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 3: behind the curtain. I'm thinking, God, I wonder if anybody's there. 309 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 3: And the curtain opens and thirty five hundred people are there. 310 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 3: They had defied the Prime Minister's edict no more than 311 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 3: ten people. Thirty five hundred people waited to see me, 312 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 3: and tears rolling down my eyes and tears rolling down 313 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:34,679 Speaker 3: their eyes. It was a moment of communion that is unreal. 314 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 3: You will see lyrics that are so meaningful and yet poetic. 315 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,919 Speaker 3: It's extraordiny. I'm so happy with it. 316 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:45,439 Speaker 1: I can't wait to check it out. We've got some 317 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 1: questions from your adoring fans. Yeah, they've written in, they've 318 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 1: called in, they've text us, they tweeted us. The first 319 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: is from Zach and he says, in twenty twenty six, 320 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 1: in what ways as a society are we closer to 321 00:17:56,440 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 1: the future imagined in Star Trek twenty well to one 322 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 1: hundred and sixty five then you expected when you started 323 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: filming the sixties? And in what ways are we further away? 324 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 3: Good question. Artemis two four astronauts could have put a 325 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:15,880 Speaker 3: robot in a lot of people's opinion mine too, that 326 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:20,919 Speaker 3: the machines aboard the Artemis would have taken just as 327 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 3: good pictures and maybe analyze the back of the moon 328 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 3: more than just eyesight. I heard one of them say 329 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 3: that the precision that your eyesight has is more than 330 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:36,679 Speaker 3: the instruments, and I don't believe that they were making 331 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 3: a case for sending a live astronaut to space, whereas 332 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 3: with AI and the cameras we have, you could make 333 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 3: a case for not sending any human beings and getting 334 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 3: all that information through mechanical means, sending it back and 335 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 3: running it through AI, and you've got your journey to 336 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 3: the stars. There's an argument to be made that human 337 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 3: beings and their vulnerability is a detriment, and that's sending 338 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 3: these sophisticated machines and we're only beginning to see the robots. 339 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:18,479 Speaker 3: I did a I'm writing a book on the effect 340 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 3: on people that I interviewed the effect of Star Trek 341 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 3: on those people, and I thought, well, it's a good idea. 342 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 3: It's such an incredible idea. I talked to a guy 343 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 3: whose only connection with humanity was a mechanical dog and 344 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 3: a mechanical robot in the house that took care of 345 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 3: the house, and the dog patrols the outside of the house, 346 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 3: and he has a fifty minute drive to work where 347 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 3: he teaches mechanics. He's totally rejected humanity and he drives 348 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 3: with the mechanical dog. As I had my hand on 349 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 3: my dog, we get to the he's identified with mechanics 350 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 3: he has and as a result of watching Star Trek. 351 00:19:57,119 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 3: I mean, amazing story wo this book is going to show. 352 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:05,400 Speaker 3: I mean, it's just I had no idea. I've done 353 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 3: some celebrities Seth McFarland, Been Stiller, Ben Folds, but I 354 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 3: mean I've got some really interesting people whose name you 355 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 3: would know. But as interesting or even more so, are 356 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 3: these people who whose whole life was guided by Star Trek. 357 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 3: And I'm thinking I'm an actor. 358 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 1: If there is other life forms out there that have 359 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 1: watched Star Trek, there are other ding ding ding there 360 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 1: you go, maybe they have watched you on Star Trek. 361 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 2: They have a galaxy quest to remember that one a 362 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 2: bit of nod to Star Trek totally. 363 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 3: Well, there's there's a several shows of mankind civilization that 364 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 3: set out radio signals for the last hundred years. So 365 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 3: those radios signals have gone someplace. And I wrote a 366 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 3: show about the radio signals reaching a planet and them 367 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:09,479 Speaker 3: saying we got to go there, and it's you know, 368 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 3: ten billion light years away, so it's going to take 369 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 3: forever to get here, and on the way, like every 370 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 3: other explorer spends a lot of time in nowhere. They 371 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,640 Speaker 3: forgot after all that time, they've forgotten what their original 372 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 3: mission was. They were just they were just civilization going someplace. 373 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 3: I mean, that's possible. 374 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 1: Absolutely sounds like a good play. I have a question 375 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 1: for you as a so we've got, you know, questions 376 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 1: from the fans. This is my fan question for you, Oh, 377 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: Nick Jonas. So yeah, this is Nick Jonas writing into 378 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: the age of this podcast. I got to ask you. 379 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: You had so many iconic roles, and obviously Star trek 380 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: Is is one of, if not the most iconic space 381 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:57,120 Speaker 1: travel and sci fi thing ever. But in your opinion, 382 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: looking at your your filmography and your career, what would 383 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 1: you say is your most underrated project that you've worked 384 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 1: on and that you wish people would take more time 385 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:08,640 Speaker 1: to go and discover or focus on. 386 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 3: I had a dramatic moment when I came out of 387 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 3: the womb. 388 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: Now we're talking, Yeah, no, I was, you were. 389 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 3: It was so raw and I don't think of those 390 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 3: terms anymore. Let me ask you that question. Let me 391 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 3: ask you, so all the wonderful numbers and the idolatry 392 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:36,360 Speaker 3: that you've received over your incredible careers. What is your 393 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 3: favorite moment? 394 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 1: Well, I was just gonna say, I think from from 395 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 1: a music perspective, there are things that just naturally fall 396 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 1: through the cracks. 397 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 3: Name one, give me one that is your favorite moment. 398 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,399 Speaker 1: Honestly, it was this last album I made. I was 399 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 1: very proud of the creative process and look at the 400 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: solo records called Sunday Best. 401 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 3: Were you happy to get rid of your brothers? I mean, 402 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 3: what does that. 403 00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 1: Mean any chance we have? It's more for me, you know, 404 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 1: who wouldn't live now. But I think that you know, 405 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 1: it's in this day and age, it's so hard to 406 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: sort of cut through and there's so much volume of 407 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 1: of you know, releases. 408 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 3: And exactly you can't. It's hard to because it's the 409 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 3: most recent and you had a great success with it. 410 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 3: But in time it'll merge with all the other wonderful 411 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 3: things you do. And you think, I. 412 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:25,479 Speaker 1: Don't know exactly, and now people are refinding things all 413 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 1: over again. Absolutely. Okay, we got another question for you. 414 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 1: Is there a Star Trek question you're sick of answering? 415 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 3: No, I may be a little more brief. There you 416 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 3: go with my answer. Yes, that's my answer yes or no. Yeah, 417 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 3: you know, what do you think of Star Trek? Are 418 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 3: you keptain Kirk? I can make it fresh, I can 419 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 3: I answer it. 420 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 2: That is an art form in itself, getting asked the 421 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 2: same question over and over again, like doing press junkets. 422 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 3: That's exactly what I mean. But you have to be 423 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 3: an actor. You have to recreate the enthusiasm as much 424 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:05,400 Speaker 3: as you can because at that moment, that writer, that 425 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,640 Speaker 3: person who's going to communicate what you just said in 426 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:12,679 Speaker 3: the various forms of communication to see your enthusiasm. But 427 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:16,120 Speaker 3: because if you're tired, and you had you vomited all 428 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:19,400 Speaker 3: over the ship, and and and you don't want to talk, 429 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 3: and they're asking you a meaningful question, you've got to 430 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,400 Speaker 3: swallow your vomit and spew. 431 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 1: Well before we let you go. 432 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:29,439 Speaker 2: We have this thing we're doing where we're getting to 433 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,679 Speaker 2: ask random questions from our giant silver bowl and we 434 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:33,439 Speaker 2: don't know what's in it. 435 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 3: Then afterwards you wear it, wear it. 436 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 2: It's actually my goal to keep away them tracking my 437 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 2: brain waves. 438 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 1: But that's different. So we don't know what's in here. 439 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 1: Just so you know, I'm just gonna pick randomly, all right, 440 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 1: this is the one I got. Oh it's a good one. 441 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 1: Oh well, this is for you. If you could choose 442 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 1: one song to play every time you walked into a room, 443 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 1: what would you choose. 444 00:24:56,560 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 3: I just did a version for a for heavy metal 445 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:06,120 Speaker 3: album another somebody Else's my Way. 446 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, Frank stuntrm, No, that's not what. 447 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 3: I did my way. I did it my way or 448 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 3: heavy metal album. 449 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. I cannot wait to hear your way. Damn that's cool. 450 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 1: So that version every time you walked in the room, I. 451 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 3: Did it my way, not your way, but the way. 452 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 3: It's my way. 453 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us on the Hey Jones Podcast. We 454 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 2: really appreciate it. 455 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 3: I hope I see the three of you soon. You're 456 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 3: remarkable artists, entertaining. 457 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you for your time. 458 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 3: Take care, everybody all right, by bye bye bye bye 459 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 3: bye