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Speaker 1: Never been left waiting by the phone. It's the Fred Show. Hey, Nick,

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Speaker 1: good morning, welcome to the program. Hey, good morning.

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Speaker 2: Wow, Nick, you already sound distrust It's We've said this before,

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Speaker 2: but it's always wild to me. We we check in

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Speaker 2: with people and they're I'm like, you know, you think

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Speaker 2: you're being ghosted. So you call the show and I'm like, hey,

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Speaker 2: how you doing, And they're like, I'm great, but Nick

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Speaker 2: doesn't sound great.

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Speaker 1: What's going on?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I appreciate having me on, but it's Uh. So

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Speaker 3: I went on a date with this girl that I

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Speaker 3: had been on Hinge and I invited out to dinner

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Speaker 3: and she, I mean, she was like perfect, and when

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Speaker 3: hotter than I had seen online, which was you know,

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Speaker 3: which is She's great, but it made me really nervous

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Speaker 3: and I really want to see her again. I thought,

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Speaker 3: I thought the dinner went great, but uh, she's She's

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Speaker 3: never called me back, okay, and she won't respond to

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Speaker 3: I text either or anything.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean that's exciting when when you're looking forward to

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Speaker 2: meeting someone because you're attracted to them on the app,

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Speaker 2: and let's face it, I said the apps are all

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Speaker 2: about it's all about hot or not until you meet

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Speaker 2: But then you show up to this date and she's

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Speaker 2: hotter than you already thought she was. Yeah, like, how

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Speaker 2: am we to make this worse? I don't mean to

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Speaker 2: rub this. I really you're being ghosted, asn't up said,

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Speaker 2: but I don't. I don't mean to, you know, but

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Speaker 2: but I mean, you know, sometimes it goes the other way.

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Speaker 2: We've heard that before too, where like the pictures are

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Speaker 2: old or you know, they've been aditated or whatever. So

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Speaker 2: you show up and she's everything you wanted her to

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Speaker 2: be and more, and you were excited about where this

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Speaker 2: assume you've reached out since the day tried to plan

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Speaker 2: another one. She's not responding Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah,

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Speaker 2: Well look, let's see if we can figure this out.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna call Marina, the woman that you met on

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Speaker 2: hinge in just a second. We're gonna ask these questions

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Speaker 2: on your behalf. And the hope is always is that

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Speaker 2: we can straighten this out, set you guys up on

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Speaker 2: a second date and pay for it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, cool, thank you really appreciate it. Let's see what's

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Speaker 1: up in part two.

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Speaker 2: Waiting minute the phone after Gracie abrams, You've got to

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Speaker 2: hear this in two minutes. It's the frend Show. Don't

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Speaker 2: Move Ye Rubs, the French show on the radio on

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Speaker 2: the iHeart app. You can listen live and anytime get

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Speaker 2: caught up. Search for the Fred Show on demand to

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Speaker 2: make us a preset. Hey, Nick, okay, welcome back. Let's

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Speaker 2: call Marina. You met on HIMS. You were really attracted

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Speaker 2: to her. She was better looking in person than you

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Speaker 1: She was hotter in person.

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Speaker 2: You had a great night with her, except you haven't

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Speaker 2: heard from her since to date. You've reached out, you

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Speaker 2: tried to plan something. She's not responding. You want to

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Speaker 2: know why. Yeah, yeah, no, you sound very sad about this.

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Speaker 2: Let's get at the bottom of this and hope for

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Speaker 2: the best. Good luck, Nick. Hello, Hi is this Marina?

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Speaker 1: I hate Marina? Good morning. My name is Fred.

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Speaker 2: I'm calling from the Fred Show, the Morning radio show,

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Speaker 2: and I do have to tell you that we are

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Speaker 2: Well I know it's kind of strange, but thank you

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Speaker 2: We just talked to him, except he's kind of sad

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Speaker 1: So what's going on.

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, we went out to dinner and he said

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Speaker 2: Stuff, because I want to know where they served the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, a breadstick, so like and fine, like he

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Speaker 4: Like I can't believe I have to say this on

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Speaker 2: A breadstick makes himself gone. I mean again, a breadstick

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Speaker 2: No, no, So this is obviously something that weighs on

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Speaker 1: Did you order a canoli? God forbid? Don't you dare so? Wow?

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Speaker 1: So you struck a chord with this guy, like.

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Speaker 2: He he feels self conscious about his you know, himself.

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Speaker 4: Don't know what I did to make feels subconscious about

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Speaker 1: It was so strange for me. It was a strange. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: And not you know, not putting your best foot forward, no,

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Speaker 2: no pun intended. It is not a foot, but Nick,

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Speaker 2: I forgot to mention that Nick is here. Marina, I'm sorry,

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Speaker 2: I'm very forgetful. I get caught up in the story

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Speaker 2: and oh Nick, why why would we go there? Right?

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Speaker 2: No? No, no no, And I think there are other

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Speaker 1: Why would you shoot yourself in the foot in that way?

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Speaker 2: So let's say you really liked Nick and it did

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, I just like I don't know, I think

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Speaker 4: But like I don't know, I just feel like weird about.

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Speaker 2: I feel bad for him, like I actually do, but

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Speaker 2: I mean, we can't be crying about our inadequacies within

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Speaker 1: Be hurt before you could tell like keep okay, but

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Speaker 1: we gotta hold it together. We got, we got.

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Speaker 2: I don't care if it's your ex or you're whatever

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Speaker 1: Ever. Oh god, he's about to cry right now.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Nick, don't cry, don't cry. Everything's fine, it's good.

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Speaker 2: No breadsticks are present, everything's no one's comparing it anything

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Speaker 1: It's all about the motion.

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Speaker 2: Well, see, that is kind of what I was saying,

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Speaker 2: and you're trying to disagree with me.

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Speaker 1: Was that, I think? I think.

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Speaker 2: I know I said that earlier, you know, and you

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Speaker 2: said to me that, you were like, oh, I want

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Speaker 2: I'm saying is I feel like there are people out

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Speaker 2: feel like, you know, you could have been Okay, Nick,

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Speaker 2: you just we just don't need to be calling attention

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Speaker 2: to it, is all I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: Can lead with that, he says, I might not look

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Speaker 4: like the breadstick, but I can do this and this.

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Speaker 2: Who is the breadsticks alone?

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Speaker 1: They were waiting at the dinner. Let me get on stuff, mushrooms,

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Speaker 1: Let me get through the salad. I mean transparency.

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Speaker 2: No, it's sometimes there is such a thing as too transparent.

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Speaker 2: This man was see through. Okay, all right, look I'm Marina.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask the question. He sounds like a nice guy.

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Speaker 2: He's sad, he's really broken up about it.

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Speaker 1: He liked you.

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Speaker 2: Would you consider giving him another chance, maybe seeing what

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Speaker 2: he has to offer. I mean, he's called so much

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Speaker 1: But maybe we give another shot. I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I'm so sorry. I know he's a nice guy. I

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Speaker 4: just like it was just too much for me on

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Speaker 4: that first date.

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Speaker 1: Not enough.

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Speaker 4: But I don't know, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: It was too much. That's a weird way to end it. Nick.

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Speaker 2: Look, you seem like a nice guy. My advice to you,

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Speaker 2: not that you asked for it, but maybe maybe we

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Speaker 2: within maybe never do we bring that up. We just

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Speaker 2: sort of let things happen and see what happens from there,

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Speaker 2: because maybe you're a very talented guy, Nick, and this

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Speaker 2: never would have been an issue.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, okay, I like, I mean, I like to believe.

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Speaker 2: There you go, There you go, that's so simple. There perfect, Marina.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for taking it called good luck.

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Speaker 1: Good Luck is Gon