WEBVTT - Girls Talk, 'Boys Talk: Is The Math Mathing? 0:00:02.840 --> 0:00:05.280 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.320 --> 0:00:06.880 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:09.240 --> 0:00:10.040 Cowboys. 0:00:11.600 --> 0:00:16.520 This is Girls Talk Boys Talk, presented by Jigsaw Dating, 0:00:16.800 --> 0:00:21.560 preferred dating partner of the Dallas Cowboys, and broadcasting live 0:00:21.880 --> 0:00:26.960 from Dallas Cowboys World Headquarters at the Star. Now your hosts, 0:00:27.320 --> 0:00:33.080 Christie Scales, Aisha Morrison, Nicole Hutchison, and Jess Navarrees. 0:00:38.520 --> 0:00:39.920 Hey, what's up? Cowboys Nation? 0:00:40.000 --> 0:00:42.400 Welcome in a Girls Talk Boys Talk presentive by Jig Saw, 0:00:42.440 --> 0:00:44.959 the preferred dating partner of the Dallas Cowboys. I'm Nicole 0:00:45.040 --> 0:00:48.640 Hutcheson alongside Christy Scales here out here in Oxnard, California. 0:00:48.640 --> 0:00:52.600 We've got Jess Navarrees and Aisha Morrison in studio. I'm sorry, 0:00:52.600 --> 0:00:55.720 I'm kind of trying not to disturb the offensive defensive line. 0:00:55.720 --> 0:00:57.800 They're literally doing yoga right next to us, and we 0:00:57.800 --> 0:00:59.280 don't want to disturb their peace. 0:01:00.800 --> 0:01:01.200 For now. 0:01:01.280 --> 0:01:03.120 We're gonna just keep it a little bit quiet for 0:01:03.240 --> 0:01:07.000 the guys they can lock in. But first things first, ladies, 0:01:07.120 --> 0:01:09.080 we did not get a chance to talk about Sam 0:01:09.120 --> 0:01:11.520 Williams and how big of a loss this is for 0:01:11.560 --> 0:01:14.760 the Dallas Cowboys so early in training camp. But the 0:01:14.800 --> 0:01:17.960 Cowboys have signed two new guys so far, agreed to 0:01:18.080 --> 0:01:21.280 terms with two new guys, al Kadeen Muhammet, who's a 0:01:21.319 --> 0:01:24.240 former Colts guy defensive end. And then you've got Shaka 0:01:24.240 --> 0:01:28.920 Tony who's with Washington. The Washington Commanders talking with you, Christy, 0:01:29.000 --> 0:01:31.679 I'll start with you, Christy, how much of a I 0:01:31.680 --> 0:01:33.679 guess what have you seen from those two guys and 0:01:33.680 --> 0:01:35.319 what can they bring to the Dallas Cowboys. 0:01:35.400 --> 0:01:39.880 Yeah, Well, Mohammed is he'll be going into his seventh season. 0:01:40.000 --> 0:01:44.280 So in six seasons, mostly with the Indianapolis Colts, he's 0:01:44.280 --> 0:01:47.760 played in eighty four career games, has twelve career sacks 0:01:47.800 --> 0:01:49.280 for forced fumble. 0:01:49.440 --> 0:01:51.000 Thirty three quarterback hits. 0:01:51.040 --> 0:01:56.200 So his best season in Indianapolis was in twenty twenty one, 0:01:56.280 --> 0:02:00.880 where he started every game and had six sacks seven 0:02:00.960 --> 0:02:03.440 tackles for loss. So he's a guy with a lot 0:02:03.480 --> 0:02:08.280 more experience than Tony. Tony the past three seasons in Washington, 0:02:08.360 --> 0:02:11.440 but April, a year and a half ago, was suspended 0:02:11.480 --> 0:02:14.160 for the entire twenty twenty three season for betting on 0:02:14.320 --> 0:02:19.280 NFL games. So he's someone who was drafted by the 0:02:19.440 --> 0:02:22.160 Washington Commanders in the seventh round out of Penn State 0:02:22.240 --> 0:02:25.160 and twenty twenty one, but didn't get to play the 0:02:25.160 --> 0:02:28.440 third season with Washington last year because of that suspension. 0:02:28.560 --> 0:02:31.840 Muhammed also is a player whose career has been interrupted 0:02:31.840 --> 0:02:35.480 by suspensions. He's from University of Miami, but two of 0:02:35.480 --> 0:02:38.680 those seasons he didn't get to play because of suspensions. 0:02:39.080 --> 0:02:43.079 So basically what they're trying to do is just add 0:02:43.200 --> 0:02:46.480 depth the defensive end and have more bodies in as 0:02:46.560 --> 0:02:49.120 part of the rotation. And Nicole, when you mentioned the 0:02:49.200 --> 0:02:52.720 loss of Sam Williams, Mike Zimmer was among the three 0:02:52.760 --> 0:02:55.840 coordinators that spoke to the media today and Mike Zimmer 0:02:55.919 --> 0:02:58.000 was talking about the loss of Sam Williams and that 0:02:58.040 --> 0:03:00.840 they expected him to maybe get up to seventy percent 0:03:00.960 --> 0:03:03.239 of the defensive snaps last year and that is a 0:03:03.280 --> 0:03:06.400 lot as part of a rotation, So it's a big loss. 0:03:06.480 --> 0:03:10.079 John Fossil special teams coordinator, We remember how Sam Williams 0:03:10.080 --> 0:03:13.360 played gunner last year on punt team. They were going 0:03:13.440 --> 0:03:16.800 to be able to maybe use him not all the time, 0:03:16.840 --> 0:03:19.160 but situationally, you're not going to use a starter on 0:03:19.240 --> 0:03:21.920 defense in special teams the way that you used Sam 0:03:21.919 --> 0:03:24.440 before when he was the backup but they could have 0:03:24.520 --> 0:03:26.919 really used him with the new kickoff rules this year, 0:03:27.000 --> 0:03:28.880 using some bigger bodies on coverage. 0:03:28.960 --> 0:03:29.840 So it's a big blow. 0:03:29.880 --> 0:03:33.480 But Mohammed and Tony adding depth to the defensive end rotation. 0:03:33.720 --> 0:03:35.400 Before I throw to you, I used you real quick 0:03:35.880 --> 0:03:38.160 just for more of a scouting report as well. To 0:03:38.200 --> 0:03:40.560 add to that, I think that you know the fact 0:03:40.560 --> 0:03:44.120 that Sam Williams only played three hundred snaps last year 0:03:44.160 --> 0:03:48.040 defensive snaps and had two back to back forward plus 0:03:48.160 --> 0:03:50.680 sax seasons. I mean, he's a pass rusher that the 0:03:50.680 --> 0:03:54.080 Cowboys are desperately going to miss. But I mean this 0:03:54.200 --> 0:03:56.680 is a chance for maybe a guy like Marshaw Neeland. 0:03:56.680 --> 0:03:58.280 I know we'll get to that and what he's done 0:03:58.560 --> 0:04:01.120 so far through camp to really step up though, but 0:04:01.600 --> 0:04:02.000 I should. 0:04:02.000 --> 0:04:03.720 Now I'm gonna go ahead and throw to you. 0:04:03.840 --> 0:04:05.920 What's your thoughts on these two new editions for the 0:04:06.200 --> 0:04:07.920 to the Dallas coup was defensive line? 0:04:08.000 --> 0:04:10.320 Oh yeah, I mean both of these gentlemen are really 0:04:10.400 --> 0:04:14.360 long athletes, and I think there was a general consensus 0:04:14.400 --> 0:04:16.400 with both of them that you know, both of them 0:04:16.720 --> 0:04:18.480 have some traits in where they can play the run 0:04:18.560 --> 0:04:21.120 pretty well and they can also rush the passer, and 0:04:21.400 --> 0:04:23.159 I know with Muhammad and a little bit of the 0:04:23.160 --> 0:04:24.680 film that I was able to see from him, he 0:04:24.680 --> 0:04:27.000 does a good job of disengaging finding the ball. 0:04:27.480 --> 0:04:29.640 He has some pops, some explosiveness to this game. 0:04:29.960 --> 0:04:33.080 And when you Christy, you mentioned that Shaka Tony was 0:04:34.279 --> 0:04:36.920 going through this you know, suspension and some of the things, 0:04:36.920 --> 0:04:39.040 it sounds like that was a shock to Commanders fans. 0:04:39.040 --> 0:04:40.760 It sounds like it was a shock to the you 0:04:40.760 --> 0:04:42.600 know and the state that they were in. 0:04:42.680 --> 0:04:46.360 If you guys remember with the Commanders, they have been 0:04:46.400 --> 0:04:49.800 struggling finding those edges that they want to you know, 0:04:49.880 --> 0:04:52.719 solidify and just kind of doing some digging. It sounds 0:04:52.760 --> 0:04:55.000 like a lot of the people around the you know 0:04:55.120 --> 0:04:58.359 organization were kind of disappointed. They were looking forward to 0:04:58.400 --> 0:05:00.839 Shaka coming in. He is a seventh round pick, but 0:05:01.080 --> 0:05:02.920 he showed some good traits, some of that burst, some 0:05:02.960 --> 0:05:06.479 of the explosiveness. So I think the Cowboys, both of 0:05:06.520 --> 0:05:08.600 these gentlemen, are being brought in for some of their 0:05:08.640 --> 0:05:11.120 traits because you're trying to make up for the loss 0:05:11.120 --> 0:05:13.679 of Sam Williams and how explosive he is as well. 0:05:14.000 --> 0:05:16.800 So they're gonna get some run help there, some experience 0:05:16.839 --> 0:05:20.720 more experience with Mohammed as you talked about before. But yeah, 0:05:21.000 --> 0:05:22.760 both of these gentlemen kind of have something to prove 0:05:22.920 --> 0:05:25.280 too as well, you know, coming off these suspensions, trying 0:05:25.279 --> 0:05:27.520 to find their legs here, and we'll see how they 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:29.000 fit into this system moving forward. 0:05:29.560 --> 0:05:32.280 Yeah, when I was doing some digging earlier on both 0:05:32.279 --> 0:05:35.240 of these guys, what I really noticed both of their 0:05:35.279 --> 0:05:39.719 emphasis and their game is is going more speed to 0:05:39.800 --> 0:05:43.599 power in passing situation. So I think that's obviously going 0:05:43.680 --> 0:05:48.080 to pan out very very well for what you're needing. Oh, 0:05:48.120 --> 0:05:53.240 you can't see me right now, but what I did 0:05:53.279 --> 0:05:56.080 notice about Shaka Tony is he's a secure tackler. So 0:05:56.279 --> 0:05:59.760 anytime you can get me a secure tackler, please do it. Dallas, 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:00.400 thank you. 0:06:00.720 --> 0:06:01.440 Yeah you did it. 0:06:02.000 --> 0:06:04.919 He's great in tackling. What I will say though, that 0:06:05.040 --> 0:06:07.919 I did notice he needs somewherek containing the edges. 0:06:08.000 --> 0:06:10.039 Yes, ma'am. He can get a little aggressive coming down. 0:06:10.680 --> 0:06:13.599 But but to be fair, I do think these D 0:06:13.720 --> 0:06:19.040 line coaches and Gregson and jeff'son Nina and and oh 0:06:19.040 --> 0:06:21.440 my goodness, I'm spacing Greg Greg. 0:06:21.440 --> 0:06:22.280 Wallis, thank you. 0:06:22.440 --> 0:06:25.479 I almost switched their names. And Greg Allis can really 0:06:25.480 --> 0:06:28.160 help contain that. But as far as Mohammed, what I 0:06:28.240 --> 0:06:31.400 did notice was speed to power definitely his biggest thing. 0:06:31.839 --> 0:06:34.760 Uh And then as far as something that caught my 0:06:34.800 --> 0:06:38.080 eye as he had four forced fumbles as well, So 0:06:38.200 --> 0:06:40.440 he is a real ballhawk and he will make sure 0:06:40.800 --> 0:06:42.800 uh to kind of cut down that ball when it 0:06:42.839 --> 0:06:46.160 is held. So pros to both of them, obviously, some 0:06:46.200 --> 0:06:48.240 of them are. Both of them need work in some 0:06:48.680 --> 0:06:52.520 areas of their game, but overall, great depth guys, great additions, 0:06:52.760 --> 0:06:54.599 especially in the loss of a guy like Sam who 0:06:54.880 --> 0:06:59.279 big body, powerful and overall just a guy that you 0:06:59.600 --> 0:07:00.640 expect a lot from this. 0:07:01.000 --> 0:07:03.200 And Nicole really quickly I wanted to add, you know 0:07:03.440 --> 0:07:06.760 another thing, Yeah, another thing as well. Both of them 0:07:06.839 --> 0:07:09.720 kind of fit the mold of a Zimmer end well, 0:07:09.880 --> 0:07:13.720 Zimmer is not a guy that really loves those smaller 0:07:13.880 --> 0:07:17.920 framed edges, you know, So them coming in uh shaka TONI, 0:07:17.960 --> 0:07:21.480 if I'm not mistaken, is what one two thirty eight 0:07:21.560 --> 0:07:25.840 and Muhammed is about two fifty. So they kind of 0:07:25.840 --> 0:07:28.480 fit that mold of that bigger edge that still has 0:07:28.520 --> 0:07:31.120 some physicality to them and can play with power back, 0:07:31.320 --> 0:07:33.120 but can do some things with speed as well. So 0:07:33.400 --> 0:07:35.680 I understand why they decided to go with these gentlemen 0:07:35.800 --> 0:07:37.360 some upside in both of them. 0:07:37.440 --> 0:07:39.640 I also sorry, Nicole, I know we're trying to bounce 0:07:39.640 --> 0:07:41.680 back to you, but go ahead. I wanted to mention 0:07:41.880 --> 0:07:46.520 what I noticed in watching practice back the past couple 0:07:46.640 --> 0:07:51.200 of two padded practices is uh de La getting obviously 0:07:51.240 --> 0:07:53.040 a lot more work with Sam out, So I think 0:07:53.080 --> 0:07:54.960 having these guys come in is going to preserve him 0:07:55.000 --> 0:07:57.320 a little bit more too, because having a guy like 0:07:57.400 --> 0:07:59.520 Di Law, who would normally be taking a little bit 0:07:59.520 --> 0:08:03.720 more of better and rest because it's d Law, he 0:08:03.760 --> 0:08:05.960 doesn't have that stress on his body right now during camp. 0:08:05.960 --> 0:08:07.640 So to me, that's also a plus of bringing these 0:08:07.680 --> 0:08:08.400 guys in right now. 0:08:08.960 --> 0:08:12.080 Yeah, I love to hear that. I love to hear that. 0:08:12.240 --> 0:08:12.440 Well. 0:08:12.480 --> 0:08:15.840 Also with talking about Mohammed just for a brief minute, 0:08:15.840 --> 0:08:17.760 I know Christy kind of hit on this, but that's 0:08:17.800 --> 0:08:22.200 another veteran guy that you're getting on this defensive line. 0:08:22.080 --> 0:08:24.280 Right because you really have what d Law right now 0:08:24.640 --> 0:08:24.920 you have. 0:08:25.400 --> 0:08:29.280 Micah's not really necessarily i'd say a veteran, but he 0:08:29.480 --> 0:08:32.520 knows the system. He knows he's been here with the Cowboys, 0:08:32.520 --> 0:08:34.839 So I mean you're getting guy Mohammed that's been in 0:08:34.840 --> 0:08:37.400 the league since twenty seventeen, so you're getting a guy 0:08:37.440 --> 0:08:40.000 who obviously knows a lot of different things that can 0:08:40.040 --> 0:08:42.640 help with these younger guys on that defensive line. But 0:08:42.880 --> 0:08:45.680 talking about those younger guys and switching gears, Christy, y'all 0:08:45.679 --> 0:08:47.360 start with you, what have you seen so far from 0:08:47.400 --> 0:08:52.640 Marshawn Neland because he has absolutely stepped in and just 0:08:52.760 --> 0:08:55.520 kind of taken a really big step in just what 0:08:55.600 --> 0:08:56.720 a week we've been here and. 0:08:56.760 --> 0:08:59.880 On Star benefiting greatly just from getting reps with a 0:09:00.160 --> 0:09:02.040 the first team after Sam went down. 0:09:02.200 --> 0:09:04.160 So not that there's. 0:09:03.960 --> 0:09:06.920 Any good news when you lose such a guy who's 0:09:06.920 --> 0:09:08.600 going to be a value would have been a valuable 0:09:08.600 --> 0:09:11.600 player this year, like Sam Williams, but with that happening 0:09:11.640 --> 0:09:16.120 so early in camp, that's more for Neelan. Also, it's 0:09:16.200 --> 0:09:21.000 interesting I mentioned John Fossil before talking about missing Sam Williams. 0:09:21.320 --> 0:09:24.439 You know he was looking at using Marshawn Neelan possibly 0:09:24.640 --> 0:09:28.360 on some kickoff coverage, a bigger body like that. But 0:09:28.480 --> 0:09:31.120 now that Sam Williams is gone and Marshaw Neelan's going 0:09:31.200 --> 0:09:35.440 to play, you know, a lot more defense than John 0:09:35.480 --> 0:09:38.040 Fossil points out that it's really like losing two guys 0:09:38.080 --> 0:09:42.080 instead of just one, the domino effect of Sam Williams injury, 0:09:42.520 --> 0:09:45.320 and if I can move to defensive tackle for just 0:09:45.360 --> 0:09:48.560 a moment, because you ask about young guys. Mike Zimmer 0:09:48.600 --> 0:09:51.040 brought this up during his press conference today, And trust 0:09:51.120 --> 0:09:53.520 me when I say that, with Mike Zimmer, if you 0:09:53.720 --> 0:09:56.360 earn a if you get a compliment from Zimmer, you 0:09:56.400 --> 0:09:58.400 have earned it. He is not a guy that tosses 0:09:58.400 --> 0:10:01.560 out verbal bouquets just to do it. But he was 0:10:01.600 --> 0:10:05.280 singing the praises of Mozzie Smith and you know, talking 0:10:05.320 --> 0:10:08.120 about how diligent he is, and I just want to 0:10:08.240 --> 0:10:12.200 follow up just from my notes, he says, regardless of 0:10:12.240 --> 0:10:15.520 what I've heard coming in, you know, he's doing the 0:10:15.800 --> 0:10:18.240 doing the hard things, taking on the double teams, his 0:10:18.320 --> 0:10:20.719 hands are in the right place, he knows where he's 0:10:20.760 --> 0:10:25.120 supposed to be. And in regards to the run game, 0:10:25.720 --> 0:10:28.520 I've been impressed. So when Mike Zimmer says he's been 0:10:28.559 --> 0:10:32.000 impressed by somebody, I would say that Mozzie Smith has 0:10:32.040 --> 0:10:35.360 earned that. So for everyone who's down on Mozzie, I 0:10:35.400 --> 0:10:37.720 just want to let you know that the defensive coordinator, 0:10:37.760 --> 0:10:40.520 has noted the progress that he's made through this first 0:10:40.720 --> 0:10:41.360 week of camp. 0:10:42.960 --> 0:10:46.000 Christy to bounce off your thoughts on Sean Elyn, I 0:10:46.040 --> 0:10:48.160 know ye're kind of switch gears a little bit, but 0:10:48.200 --> 0:10:49.439 what's your thoughts on my Shaan Elen? 0:10:50.240 --> 0:10:51.840 So yeah, I actually know you're fine. 0:10:51.880 --> 0:10:53.640 I actually went back to my draft knows just to 0:10:53.720 --> 0:10:55.760 kind of look look at some of the things I 0:10:55.760 --> 0:10:58.200 thought about him, and you know, he's just so fast 0:10:58.320 --> 0:11:00.760 off the ball, and that's something that's stands out to you. 0:11:01.240 --> 0:11:04.520 But really with him is his is the hand fighting 0:11:04.559 --> 0:11:06.880 and some of the stuff he can do disengaging a 0:11:06.960 --> 0:11:09.200 stopping the run, he is going to have to. He 0:11:09.280 --> 0:11:12.880 is in a place to where he's developing more pass 0:11:12.960 --> 0:11:15.800 rush ability and some and some things in that regard, 0:11:15.840 --> 0:11:17.240 but just as far as getting a feel for the 0:11:17.320 --> 0:11:19.840 run game. Obviously this is a young guy, so he 0:11:19.880 --> 0:11:22.440 also too, is going to continue to develop playing with 0:11:22.480 --> 0:11:26.320 more power and dealing with you know, shedding and tackling. 0:11:26.400 --> 0:11:28.839 But for the most part, it sounds like listening to 0:11:28.880 --> 0:11:32.520 the coaches, he's retained the information very quickly. He's taking 0:11:32.559 --> 0:11:35.480 his off season seriously and getting in the playbook and 0:11:35.480 --> 0:11:38.720 figuring things out and they are still looking for an 0:11:38.880 --> 0:11:42.319 edge opposite of Tank Lawrence to stop this run consistently. 0:11:42.400 --> 0:11:44.959 So to see him kind of fitting in where he's 0:11:44.960 --> 0:11:46.719 fitting in, and they are asking a lot of him 0:11:46.760 --> 0:11:48.680 now to your point, you know, with the Sam of 0:11:49.240 --> 0:11:52.000 with the loss of Sam Williams. So for me, it's 0:11:52.080 --> 0:11:54.360 just what stands out more than anything right now for 0:11:54.440 --> 0:11:56.960 him is the size, because he is a big dude. 0:11:57.080 --> 0:11:59.839 He's real big dude, six three two seventy five. But 0:12:00.640 --> 0:12:02.720 the way that he's getting off the ball, that's going 0:12:02.760 --> 0:12:05.439 to pay dividends to him as he continues to become 0:12:05.760 --> 0:12:08.679 a better run defender and a better pass rusher as well. 0:12:08.720 --> 0:12:15.600 So yeah, I've been pleased with him so far, ladies. Cool, 0:12:15.800 --> 0:12:16.440 just what you got. 0:12:16.600 --> 0:12:18.920 Oh I was going to bounce back from Christie's comments 0:12:18.960 --> 0:12:21.760 about Mazzi. Sorry, that's go for it, go for it, 0:12:21.760 --> 0:12:24.120 go for Oh you're good, I'm Christy. To your point, 0:12:24.200 --> 0:12:28.520 I'm not shocked the ZIM is praising Mazzi because the 0:12:28.559 --> 0:12:32.240 conversation him and I had, you know, right before the 0:12:32.400 --> 0:12:36.200 end of OTAs. Mazzi was sick and tired of people 0:12:36.240 --> 0:12:38.640 saying he was just down bad. He was sick of 0:12:38.679 --> 0:12:41.079 hearing it, he was sick of people asking like, are 0:12:41.080 --> 0:12:41.480 you okay? 0:12:41.480 --> 0:12:41.960 Are you okay? 0:12:42.000 --> 0:12:43.959 It's like, I'm fine, I'm just one, I have to 0:12:43.960 --> 0:12:46.640 get over this injury, and two like I can only 0:12:46.720 --> 0:12:49.480 put on weight so quickly in the right way. And 0:12:49.520 --> 0:12:53.240 that's something that I really want to emphasize, is that 0:12:53.240 --> 0:12:56.240 Mazzi's putting on that weight in the correct way. He's 0:12:56.280 --> 0:12:58.760 not doing it, you know, in the wrong way. So 0:12:59.280 --> 0:13:03.319 for me, guy like Mazzi, who it kind of reminds 0:13:03.360 --> 0:13:05.920 me of Jalen Tolber a little bit in the sense 0:13:05.920 --> 0:13:08.280 of kind of had to be broken down, stripped down 0:13:08.480 --> 0:13:11.640 all the way your rookie season to be built back up. 0:13:11.800 --> 0:13:14.480 That's kind of the progression I'm seeing. And funny enough, 0:13:14.480 --> 0:13:17.520 they're actually locker buddies, so they're lockers right next to 0:13:17.559 --> 0:13:20.600 each other, and Jalen Tolber, of all people, has been 0:13:20.679 --> 0:13:24.240 kind of helping Mozzi. It sounds like build that confidence in, 0:13:24.600 --> 0:13:27.280 you know, having that first down year, like being really 0:13:27.320 --> 0:13:31.040 down on yourself and not understanding, you know, things as 0:13:31.080 --> 0:13:32.840 much as you thought you would your first year in 0:13:32.840 --> 0:13:34.719 the league. And so I thought that was just such 0:13:34.720 --> 0:13:37.280 an interesting little tidbit because you hear about you know 0:13:37.320 --> 0:13:39.680 your locker room leaders, and you hear about your position 0:13:39.720 --> 0:13:43.000 group leaders. But to see kind of that cross team 0:13:43.160 --> 0:13:45.840 collaboration and leadership from a guy like Jalen Tolbert to 0:13:45.880 --> 0:13:49.200 help Mozzi build that confidence back up, it's really cool 0:13:49.240 --> 0:13:52.120 to see. And so I'm not shocked that Mazzi is 0:13:52.160 --> 0:13:53.880 working his tail off to come back, because all it 0:13:53.880 --> 0:13:55.760 took was him getting over that injury to kind of 0:13:55.800 --> 0:13:57.520 start ramping things back up for himself. 0:13:59.000 --> 0:14:00.120 I've got a question, lady. 0:14:01.360 --> 0:14:04.719 We're obviously seeing such good things from Mazie so far, 0:14:04.880 --> 0:14:07.320 and I know that it's just training camp. You want 0:14:07.320 --> 0:14:10.040 to see it in live game reps how well he 0:14:10.080 --> 0:14:14.840 can really do. But let's just say, do y'all see 0:14:15.080 --> 0:14:20.280 Ozua and Mazzie Smith being potentially the best in tier 0:14:20.400 --> 0:14:22.479 defensive interier in the league. 0:14:22.880 --> 0:14:27.600 I know you, I just want to want to know, don't. 0:14:27.640 --> 0:14:30.200 I think Jonathan Allen and Deron Payne may have something. 0:14:31.000 --> 0:14:33.600 You know, they've been they've been, uh, you know, kind 0:14:33.600 --> 0:14:36.960 of setting a standard the previous years. 0:14:37.360 --> 0:14:41.960 But I think that OsO Diggi Zua is the most 0:14:42.040 --> 0:14:44.080 underappreciated player on the defense. 0:14:44.680 --> 0:14:49.200 I would argue that, and to say that the two 0:14:49.280 --> 0:14:51.680 of them can be one of the tops in the league. 0:14:52.120 --> 0:14:56.240 I think Osa is going to have a breakout season. 0:14:56.600 --> 0:14:57.960 He was so good last year. 0:14:58.320 --> 0:15:02.080 He just hasn't gotten the nationally tension yet, but I 0:15:02.120 --> 0:15:04.840 think that's coming well. Of course it's dependent on the 0:15:04.880 --> 0:15:08.240 success of the team in the playoffs, of course, but nationally. 0:15:08.680 --> 0:15:12.160 But you know, with Mazzie, he just has to prove it. 0:15:12.240 --> 0:15:13.320 And just what you. 0:15:13.760 --> 0:15:16.280 Said, I think is spot on, and it has to 0:15:16.280 --> 0:15:18.640 do with maturity, It has to do with confidence. And 0:15:18.680 --> 0:15:21.040 I think that people don't appreciate how much of this 0:15:21.160 --> 0:15:23.960 game is mental in the NFL, and I just just 0:15:24.080 --> 0:15:26.280 mean the mental part of learning the playbook and all that, 0:15:26.480 --> 0:15:30.080 but just self confidence. And you know, you go from 0:15:30.080 --> 0:15:32.680 being the big fish on campus, the big guy on campus, 0:15:32.760 --> 0:15:34.680 and then you're the small fish in the bigger pond 0:15:35.160 --> 0:15:38.000 and you're learning new systems, you're being utilized a different 0:15:38.040 --> 0:15:40.160 way than you were in college. It's a lot to 0:15:40.240 --> 0:15:44.360 do and it's a real mental grind. And so you know, 0:15:44.520 --> 0:15:47.680 that's why coaches talk about the big leap into year 0:15:47.760 --> 0:15:50.840 two and hopefully Mazie's able to make that leap this year. 0:15:51.600 --> 0:15:55.280 Can I interject here with the Massie conversation. Yep, Okay, 0:15:55.320 --> 0:15:59.080 I'm listening. So Christy mentioned the confidence and things like 0:15:59.120 --> 0:16:01.840 that and stealing fence into the players. I think that's 0:16:01.880 --> 0:16:04.240 a lot of why Zim came out and said what 0:16:04.280 --> 0:16:07.120 he said today is that you don't They're aware of 0:16:07.200 --> 0:16:08.040 the conversations. 0:16:08.040 --> 0:16:11.480 They're aware of people questioning whether he's ready to go. 0:16:11.640 --> 0:16:12.360 I'm listening. 0:16:12.400 --> 0:16:14.080 My job here is to talk about the film, and 0:16:14.120 --> 0:16:16.480 what I see, and from what I've seen on film 0:16:17.160 --> 0:16:20.880 is that there's still some issues with the get The 0:16:20.960 --> 0:16:23.360 get off has gotten better, and that's and I credit 0:16:23.440 --> 0:16:25.960 Zanino on that he has been so adamant with him 0:16:26.280 --> 0:16:28.160 from what I know off to the sides, working with 0:16:28.280 --> 0:16:30.000 him trying to get that get off right. But I 0:16:30.760 --> 0:16:33.800 do think that there still is some issues with him 0:16:33.800 --> 0:16:37.680 finding his anchor and dropping that ass and making sure 0:16:37.720 --> 0:16:40.080 that people aren't pushing them off his spot and being 0:16:40.120 --> 0:16:44.080 square and also too when they're doing some listen, hey, listen, 0:16:44.160 --> 0:16:47.960 draft talk is here. So but but when you know, 0:16:48.040 --> 0:16:50.920 sometimes when they are double teaming him, he's getting pushed, 0:16:51.040 --> 0:16:53.480 he's getting flowed out of these plays. We need him 0:16:53.520 --> 0:16:56.000 to stay firm and to be able to disengage and 0:16:56.040 --> 0:16:57.920 go find the tackler and then you guys mentioned. 0:16:57.680 --> 0:16:58.720 Oh so Diggizua. 0:16:58.800 --> 0:17:00.960 One of the reasons why also Gazula to me has 0:17:01.000 --> 0:17:03.960 not seen his full potential is the issues at de 0:17:04.160 --> 0:17:07.119 tackle at one tech, which is that the guy that 0:17:07.200 --> 0:17:10.199 lines up over the center because oh soo the Gizula 0:17:10.320 --> 0:17:11.040 is a three tech. 0:17:11.200 --> 0:17:13.560 He is a pass, rushy, get up field type guy. 0:17:13.640 --> 0:17:17.320 He's not someone that should be holding double teams forever setting. 0:17:17.080 --> 0:17:17.680 Up other guys. 0:17:17.760 --> 0:17:20.480 Other people should be setting up for him. So getting 0:17:20.480 --> 0:17:22.920 a one tech in here that is going to really 0:17:22.920 --> 0:17:25.639 seriously hold down that forward or if if it's not Mazi, 0:17:25.720 --> 0:17:27.760 whoever it is, I've heard, I've seen some good. 0:17:27.640 --> 0:17:28.760 Things from Justin Rogers. 0:17:28.760 --> 0:17:32.040 To be honest, I just wanted to comment, like, I 0:17:32.480 --> 0:17:35.040 understand that we're behind the player, but I can't. I 0:17:35.040 --> 0:17:37.480 can't sit up here and say that I'm seeing this 0:17:37.640 --> 0:17:40.800 consistency on film because I'm not now either flashes. 0:17:40.880 --> 0:17:43.200 Sure, but you're looking for. 0:17:43.080 --> 0:17:45.639 A little bit more from him moving forward, and he 0:17:45.720 --> 0:17:47.639 is coming back from an injury, and I understand, but 0:17:48.359 --> 0:17:52.560 I just I wanted to temper things personally with myself. 0:17:53.800 --> 0:17:54.800 Do you feel tempered now? 0:17:55.000 --> 0:17:58.080 I feel tempered and rooting for him and the other 0:17:58.119 --> 0:17:59.960 thing is you mentioned you mentioned. 0:17:59.680 --> 0:18:01.320 The past, you know with Mazie. 0:18:01.359 --> 0:18:04.040 And the one thing that Zim did say today is 0:18:04.119 --> 0:18:06.200 don't you know he's not a speed rusher up the middle. 0:18:06.600 --> 0:18:07.520 That's not his game. 0:18:07.600 --> 0:18:10.520 He needs to keep working on the power rush up 0:18:10.560 --> 0:18:14.680 the middle. But you know, I'll be happy with let's 0:18:14.680 --> 0:18:16.480 just see some consistent run stopping. 0:18:16.640 --> 0:18:17.639 That's what we're looking for. 0:18:17.680 --> 0:18:20.240 It, like you say, dropping and controlling the gap. And 0:18:20.280 --> 0:18:23.480 then you know, like that, let's let's let's concentrate on that. 0:18:25.840 --> 0:18:28.440 Jess, you got something. Oh no, I thought we're getting 0:18:28.440 --> 0:18:29.080 ready to cut the break. 0:18:29.280 --> 0:18:31.960 Yeah, I'm sorry. 0:18:32.640 --> 0:18:34.120 I just want to make sure I hit everybody. 0:18:34.200 --> 0:18:37.239 No, you're good, didn't break up. 0:18:37.320 --> 0:18:41.200 Next, we got a chance to hear from John Fossil today, 0:18:42.119 --> 0:18:45.359 just giving us a little classroom class media class. 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