WEBVTT - #790 Packers Unscripted: Roster recap

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from

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<v Speaker 1>Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spoffer, joined as always

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<v Speaker 1>by my partner in crime, Weston Hodkowitz. We're coming to

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<v Speaker 1>you here from our studios at lambeau Field and Wes

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<v Speaker 1>with plenty to talk about. We skipped our earlier episode

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<v Speaker 1>this week because of all of the roster dust that

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<v Speaker 1>needed to settle. And Wow, this might have been the

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<v Speaker 1>most active and interesting roster cutdown time in Green Bay

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<v Speaker 1>in a while because the Packers emerged from it not

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<v Speaker 1>only with their initial fifty three man roster, but a

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<v Speaker 1>new kicker, a new backup quarterback. Both of the them

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<v Speaker 1>came from the Tennessee Titans. It's been an interesting last

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<v Speaker 1>few days around.

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<v Speaker 2>I was joking with a friend of mine because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>obviously we're in the two cycle week show for the Unscripted,

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<v Speaker 2>and I made a crack about whether we would have

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<v Speaker 2>tried to shoot the show on Monday or Tuesday. We

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<v Speaker 2>would have had to reshoot it like three times.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly, based.

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<v Speaker 2>On every single thing that happened, beginning with the rumors,

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<v Speaker 2>not the rumors, but the reports of the Malik Willis

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<v Speaker 2>trade on Monday night. Then Andre's Carlson is released. You

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<v Speaker 2>have Greg Joseph make it to Wednesday, but then the

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<v Speaker 2>packers claim Brandon Narvissen from the Tennessee Titans, and on

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<v Speaker 2>and on and on the things go. But I'll say

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<v Speaker 2>this too, I got I do my own informal roster selection.

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<v Speaker 2>I got forty nine, correct. I really there was just

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<v Speaker 2>some things that definitely threw me for a whirl a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit. Yeah, I see not so much the guys

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<v Speaker 2>that made it, but like the Anthony Johnson juniors, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>being released, and you know a couple of the different

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<v Speaker 2>decisions that happen, and it just again goes to show you, Mike,

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<v Speaker 2>for as much as we watch these practices and watch

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<v Speaker 2>these games, you cannot get into the minds and into

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<v Speaker 2>the meeting rooms of the NFL Scouts of Brian Goode Kunst.

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<v Speaker 2>They had to make some very very tough calls. Brian

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<v Speaker 2>even said it during his news conference earlier this week.

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<v Speaker 2>They felt like there was more than fifty three guys

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<v Speaker 2>on this rasa deserve to be here. I think the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that three of them got claimed on waiver sort

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<v Speaker 2>of speaks to that. And now the Green Bay Packers

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<v Speaker 2>with what I would argue is probably their most talent

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<v Speaker 2>rich team they've had at least during this era of

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<v Speaker 2>Brian Goodecunk's ten years GM. They are stacked and ready

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<v Speaker 2>to get into the season.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I want to get back to those three released

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<v Speaker 1>players by the Packers getting claimed by other teams. But first,

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk about these two new arrivals a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>At quarterback, Malik Willis. A couple of years ago, he

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<v Speaker 1>was a third round draft pick of the Tennessee Titans.

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<v Speaker 1>He was the third quarterback taken in that draft. It

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<v Speaker 1>was it was not the typical quarterback draft. In twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty two that spring, Willis was the third quarterback taken.

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<v Speaker 1>He had begun his college career at Auburn, had ultimately

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<v Speaker 1>transferred to Liberty University in Virginia, had a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>highly successful seasons there, and then with the Titans, he

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<v Speaker 1>ended up getting sort of three emergency starts as a rookie,

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<v Speaker 1>and then things just didn't really work out for him

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<v Speaker 1>in Tennessee and there's been a coaching change now and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, quite obviously the Packers felt after the way

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<v Speaker 1>things went through this training camp in preseason with Sean

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<v Speaker 1>Clifford and Michael Pratt felt they needed to upgrade at

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<v Speaker 1>backup quarterback, and so Brian Gudakunz traded a seventh round

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<v Speaker 1>pick to the Titans to get a new quarterback in here.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a very interesting situation with the opener coming up

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<v Speaker 1>so quickly, you wonder how fast can Willis get up

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<v Speaker 1>to speed? Can he really be the number two quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>for the opener in Brazil against the Eagles. The fallback

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<v Speaker 1>is that Sean Clifford is back on the practice squad,

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<v Speaker 1>so the Packers will have that option as they set

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<v Speaker 1>the roster for the game in Brazil, depending on how

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<v Speaker 1>all that shakes out. But a different type of quarterback,

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<v Speaker 1>a dual threat guy, the kind of guy that the

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<v Speaker 1>Packers haven't really had around here. A whole heck of

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<v Speaker 1>a lot. But it's a new lease on life. And

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<v Speaker 1>Summer speaks from in some measure of speaking for Malik Willis,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's going to help out the Packers at a

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<v Speaker 1>spot that they need, they need some assurance.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I was really big on Willis in twenty twenty two.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how much the average fan of members,

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<v Speaker 2>but I mean his draft stock just soared in the

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<v Speaker 2>weeks in the months leading up to that, whether it

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<v Speaker 2>was the NFL Scout Scouting Combine or just the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that you know, it wasn't the most talent rich draft.

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<v Speaker 2>So I mean, we really perseverated a lot on the

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<v Speaker 2>quarterbacks that were available. Kenny Pickett goes at number twenty

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<v Speaker 2>to Pittsburgh Desmond Ritter, who also got released this past weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>He went in the third round to Atlanta, and then

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<v Speaker 2>you had Tennessee, I believe trade up to get Willis. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>The one thing about his tenuere in Tennessee that I

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<v Speaker 2>never quite understood was I didn't really see what the

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<v Speaker 2>vision was for him there right they had Ryan Tannehill.

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<v Speaker 2>To me, it almost kind of felt like they got

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<v Speaker 2>to the third round and he was still there, and

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<v Speaker 2>they we're just, yeah, let's take this kid and we'll

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<v Speaker 2>see what we get. When we developed, they never really

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<v Speaker 2>committed to it. As you said, there was three spot starts.

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<v Speaker 2>They didn't go great his rookie year. He talked at

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<v Speaker 2>his locker on Wednesday about how he's a much different

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<v Speaker 2>quarterback today than he went when he got those opportunities.

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<v Speaker 2>They drafted Will Levis last season, so then he's basically

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<v Speaker 2>the number de facto number three.

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<v Speaker 1>And Levis was a second round pick, someone they invested

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<v Speaker 1>a higher draft pick in than they had invested in Willis.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and now for him to you know, he had

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<v Speaker 2>a really strong preseason, the best preseason of his career

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<v Speaker 2>so far, led them in rushing. You know, was a

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<v Speaker 2>guy that had one hundred and seven passer rating. I

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<v Speaker 2>watched the final clips of those ten minutes in that

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<v Speaker 2>game against the Saints. I mean, he made some extraordinary throws.

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<v Speaker 2>The pass that he had down the right sideline, which

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<v Speaker 2>if you go back and look at his draft right up,

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<v Speaker 2>that was something they felt was really strong with him.

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<v Speaker 2>His downfield accuracy, particularly to the sidelines. That thirty four

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<v Speaker 2>yard touchdown came off of him leading the receiver in

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<v Speaker 2>one on one coverage. So it's not like he's just

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<v Speaker 2>a guy that just is gonna run, No, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>he had a lot of arm talent. He's super intelligent,

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<v Speaker 2>and you can sense that at this locker just the

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<v Speaker 2>way he carries himself in his composure, and I actually

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<v Speaker 2>think from a personality perspective, is going to fit really

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<v Speaker 2>well with Jordan Love. The challenge is the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>we are at the time that we're taping this eight

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<v Speaker 2>days away from the regular season Oprah in Brazil. How

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<v Speaker 2>quickly he can digest this playbook after spending the last

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<v Speaker 2>three years working in Tennessee system. That's going to be

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<v Speaker 2>the number one thing he has to figure out. But

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<v Speaker 2>that being said athletically, in tangible wise, there's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>to like about Malik will Is still only twenty five

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<v Speaker 2>years old, and I really feel like you really haven't

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<v Speaker 2>even opened the box yet of what his potential could

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<v Speaker 2>be in this league.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it sounds like there is some carryover in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of the playbook the scheme from what Willis was learning

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<v Speaker 1>his rookie year in Tennessee before some things with the

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<v Speaker 1>offense and the coaching and whatnot started to change there.

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<v Speaker 1>But the other thing I thought was interesting is Brian

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<v Speaker 1>Gudacunz specifically made the comment and talking about Willis that

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<v Speaker 1>in their evaluation of Willis, as they were keeping their

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<v Speaker 1>eye out for quarterbacks who might who might come available

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<v Speaker 1>for all to talk about Willis and his running ability

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<v Speaker 1>and being a dual threat guy, Brian Gudacunz said they

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<v Speaker 1>felt there was a lot of progress made in making

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<v Speaker 1>plays from the pocket and not just tuck and run

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<v Speaker 1>and take off with the ball. That the kind of

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<v Speaker 1>stuff he was doing early in his career. That progress

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<v Speaker 1>of becoming a pocket passer while still maintaining that dual threat,

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<v Speaker 1>that type of growth is what really interested the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>in making this move. So be interesting to see. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>if all goes well, Malik Willis will not be playing

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<v Speaker 1>for the Green Bay Packers in twenty twenty four. That's

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<v Speaker 1>not the idea here, but the Packers certainly feel they've

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<v Speaker 1>upgraded themselves at backup quarterback. When it comes to kicker

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<v Speaker 1>Anders Carlson, Greg Joseph a tire offseason, all of training camp.

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<v Speaker 1>Other third kickers at various times brought in to be

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<v Speaker 1>part of the competition as well, it ends up being

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<v Speaker 1>none of them. The Packers decide to move on Alex

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<v Speaker 1>hale Is on the practice squad with the international player exemption,

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<v Speaker 1>so there is a second kicker in Green Bay. But

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<v Speaker 1>Braden Narvison, undrafted rookie, went to Tennessee, was not able

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<v Speaker 1>to beat out Nick Folk, the veteran, for the job there,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Packers end up making the claim of Narvison

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<v Speaker 1>on waivers. He had a very successful preseason. He only

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<v Speaker 1>missed one field goal out of seven tries, and I

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<v Speaker 1>believe that was a fifty eight yarder. He made a

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<v Speaker 1>fifty nine yarder. He also a walk off. I believe

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<v Speaker 1>it was forty six yards a walk off kick to

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<v Speaker 1>win a preseason game. So the Packers liked the fact that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he's kind of been in some pressure situations

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<v Speaker 1>as a rookie in the preseason when he's competing with

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<v Speaker 1>a veteran to try to to try to unseat a

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<v Speaker 1>guy for the job. And you know, we're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to know exactly what the Packers thought of, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Carlson and Joseph and how all this thing went. Joseph,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, started out training camp really strong. Then he

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<v Speaker 1>hit a rough patch. He seemed to kind of recover

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<v Speaker 1>towards the end. Carlson in some respects was a little

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<v Speaker 1>steadier in terms of the consistency maybe than Joseph, But

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<v Speaker 1>the consistent level wasn't a high enough consistent level really

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<v Speaker 1>when the Packers looked at it, and quite frankly, wess

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<v Speaker 1>it's not about just one kick. But when Carlson went

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<v Speaker 1>out and missed the thirty two yarder at the in

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<v Speaker 1>the fourth quarter of the final preseason game against Baltimore.

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<v Speaker 1>I felt what I said in insider inboxes that just

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<v Speaker 1>felt like a declaration that Anders Carlson was not any

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<v Speaker 1>better as a kicker in year two than he was

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<v Speaker 1>in year one, and the Packers felt they needed to

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<v Speaker 1>get better at that position. So if he's not going

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<v Speaker 1>to prove that he's better that, then they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>look elsewhere to upgrade. So narvisin is the move.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of different things in play here. The one

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<v Speaker 2>thing I will say, and again I thought, Anders is

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<v Speaker 2>the way you handle himself in Green Bay just you know,

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<v Speaker 2>total professional from day one. But the fact is is

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<v Speaker 2>he makes a fifty four yard field goal early in

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<v Speaker 2>that preseason game and then in the fourth quarter you

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<v Speaker 2>miss a thirty two yarder. As you venture into the

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<v Speaker 2>NFL season, and as Matt Lafloor said, he knows how

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<v Speaker 2>close that razor thin line is between victory and defeat

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<v Speaker 2>and how sometimes the kicking position is factoring into that.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't have that type of fluctuation. You have to

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<v Speaker 2>be more consistent. Greg Joseph, I thought, showed an NFL

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<v Speaker 2>caliber leg. It was a little disconcerning the middle of

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<v Speaker 2>that camp where he sort of lost the way a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit. I thought he did finish strong. I'd be

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<v Speaker 2>curious to see what opportunities are out for him this season.

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<v Speaker 2>Still and ultimately a position battle that lasted more than

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<v Speaker 2>four months, it really didn't have a conclusive winner. So

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<v Speaker 2>what does Brian goodekuins do You look at the situation

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<v Speaker 2>in Tennessee where you had two guys and Nick Folk

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<v Speaker 2>at thirty nine years old, still holding on and still

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<v Speaker 2>holding strong, and you had Narvison who was the upstar

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<v Speaker 2>challenger who kind of is in the same mold of

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<v Speaker 2>a Christian welch and that I don't know what more

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<v Speaker 2>that kid could have done to win the job other

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<v Speaker 2>than maybe making the fifty eight yarder. But I mean

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<v Speaker 2>he made a fifty nine yarder. If you look into

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<v Speaker 2>his bio, he made a fifty eight yarder in high school.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, this guy has been around, and he's been

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<v Speaker 2>a pretty highly touted kicker for a long time and

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<v Speaker 2>worked his way up the college ladder to finish things

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<v Speaker 2>out at NC State, you take a risk bringing in

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<v Speaker 2>a kicker this late. Matt Lafleur said, this is kind

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<v Speaker 2>of uncharted waters for him in that regard and as

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<v Speaker 2>an undres a rookie, you're not sure how he's going

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<v Speaker 2>to respond to. Okay, now these are all must make situations.

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<v Speaker 2>But all that being said, Packers had to go a

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<v Speaker 2>different direction. They had the waiver wire at their disposal,

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<v Speaker 2>they had free agency at their disposal. It's a position

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<v Speaker 2>where you don't have a playbook, and they felt like

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<v Speaker 2>Narvusen is the right fit for them right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's interesting how it unfolded that the Packers ended

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<v Speaker 1>up making both of these moves with players coming from

0:12:24.320 --> 0:12:27.320
<v Speaker 1>the same team, and you know, you just wonder exactly

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<v Speaker 1>how the discussions unfolded. Were the Packers trying to get

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<v Speaker 1>both in the trade, but then maybe the Titans were

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<v Speaker 1>asking for too high of a draft pick, So then

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<v Speaker 1>they just settled, Okay, we'll keep the quarterback things separate.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll just get that done. We'll we'll see what else happens,

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<v Speaker 1>and Narvis and the Packers end up getting him for

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<v Speaker 1>free essentially off of off of the waiver wear. So

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<v Speaker 1>kind of interesting how how that unfolded. With regard to

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<v Speaker 1>the Packers and getting down to the fifty three. You

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned that Brian Gudokun said there were more than fifty

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<v Speaker 1>three guys who were deserving of roster spots, and as

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<v Speaker 1>it turned out, for the first time in seven years,

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<v Speaker 1>not only did the Packers have a released player get claimed,

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<v Speaker 1>they had three of them get claimed. Safety Anthony Johnson

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<v Speaker 1>Junior was claimed by the Giants, receiver Grant Dubos by

0:13:18.320 --> 0:13:22.440
<v Speaker 1>the Mammy Dolphins, and offensive lineman Royce Newman by the

0:13:22.440 --> 0:13:27.520
<v Speaker 1>Tampa Bay Buccaneers. And that really speaks to the depth

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<v Speaker 1>the Packers had on this ninety man offseason roster because

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<v Speaker 1>there were only I believe the final number was twenty

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<v Speaker 1>six players claimed across the league, twenty six across the

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<v Speaker 1>entire league out of eight hundred plus. Carolina took half

0:13:42.640 --> 0:13:45.000
<v Speaker 1>of them that were on the waiver. Yeah, Carolina took

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch. They took advantage of being at the top

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<v Speaker 1>of the waiver claim list. I mean, that's what you

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<v Speaker 1>have to do. If you feel there are better players

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<v Speaker 1>out there, you got to upgrade your team. But only

0:13:54.200 --> 0:13:56.480
<v Speaker 1>twenty six were claimed across the league, and three of

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<v Speaker 1>them were claimed off of the from the Green Bay

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<v Speaker 1>Packers cut list, So that says something about what the

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<v Speaker 1>Packers had in this locker room throughout the offseason, throughout

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<v Speaker 1>training camp, and let's be honest too, I mean that

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<v Speaker 1>fifty three that did make it for Green Bay did

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<v Speaker 1>not include two players who all of us thought would

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<v Speaker 1>be on the fifty three. And I'm talking about running

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<v Speaker 1>back AJ Dillon and tight end Tyler Davis. Both of

0:14:28.320 --> 0:14:32.560
<v Speaker 1>them unfortunately end up on season ending injured reserve Dylan

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<v Speaker 1>with the stinger injury the recurrence of the next stinger

0:14:35.760 --> 0:14:38.480
<v Speaker 1>that kept him out of the regular season finale and

0:14:38.520 --> 0:14:43.560
<v Speaker 1>the playoffs last year. Tyler Davis, after an entire basically

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<v Speaker 1>a year's worth of rehab from the ACL from the

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<v Speaker 1>preseason opener in Cincinnati last year, he gets back out

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<v Speaker 1>on the field in Denver in preseason action, plays roughly

0:14:54.200 --> 0:14:57.440
<v Speaker 1>a dozen snaps and injured his shoulder and now he's

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<v Speaker 1>out for another season once again. So that was really

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<v Speaker 1>the bad news and the sad news with regard to

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<v Speaker 1>the roster decisions. But again, those are two players everybody

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<v Speaker 1>thought would be on the fifty three, all else being equal,

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<v Speaker 1>and they weren't, and the Packers filled those spots, so

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<v Speaker 1>they still have their fifty three, and three guys still

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<v Speaker 1>got claimed by other teams. So I just in the

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<v Speaker 1>bigger picture. You look at that this offseason roster was

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<v Speaker 1>very deep and very talented.

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<v Speaker 2>Very deep, very talented, and so many guys rose up

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<v Speaker 2>to the challenge. I think a guy like Christian Welch again,

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<v Speaker 2>you could look at him as somebody that was a

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<v Speaker 2>long shot, even though he was a veteran, and he

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<v Speaker 2>put himself into the conversation with how he performed in

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<v Speaker 2>the preseason. Royce Newman, I think everybody would probably agree Royce,

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<v Speaker 2>it was time for a change of venue for him

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<v Speaker 2>and see what can happen now that he gets down

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<v Speaker 2>in Tampa with kind of a fresh start. You know

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<v Speaker 2>that the opportunity for the offensive line, the where the

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<v Speaker 2>depth is, it didn't really wasn't conducive I think for

0:15:57.400 --> 0:16:00.440
<v Speaker 2>him making the roster. But then you have granted Bo's,

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<v Speaker 2>who was the only receiver claims and I think again

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<v Speaker 2>speaks not only to the depth a receiver, but honestly, Mike,

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<v Speaker 2>the strength of these last two draft classes. The Packers

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<v Speaker 2>don't find them in a situation of having to release

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<v Speaker 2>a due Bo's or an Anthony Johnson junior. If there

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<v Speaker 2>isn't Evan Williams, if there isn't Javon Bullard if there

0:16:18.520 --> 0:16:23.920
<v Speaker 2>isn't Malik Heath and I certainly Bow Melton. Those type

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<v Speaker 2>of players are the ones that made this decision very difficult.

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<v Speaker 2>And on the other side of it, you have guys

0:16:30.200 --> 0:16:33.160
<v Speaker 2>like Heath, who I thought got stronger throughout the preseason.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought Brian Gudokuntz made a very salient observation when

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<v Speaker 2>he said, this is a guy that just has a

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<v Speaker 2>unique ability to make the big play. And when you're

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<v Speaker 2>looking at long term potential, those type of players, there's

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<v Speaker 2>something to be said for that, because you can have

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<v Speaker 2>all the tools, but you might not have that it's

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<v Speaker 2>factor when it's winning time. Malik has that. You saw

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<v Speaker 2>it last year with Bou Melton, Mike. I mean, Bow

0:16:55.920 --> 0:16:57.880
<v Speaker 2>needed to have a good camp. It wasn't like he

0:16:58.040 --> 0:17:01.200
<v Speaker 2>just guaranteed a roster spot. But you don't have the

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<v Speaker 2>performance that he had down the stretch last season if

0:17:04.040 --> 0:17:06.320
<v Speaker 2>you're not talented and if you're not ready for the moment.

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<v Speaker 2>So for the Green Bay Packers to have this much

0:17:08.520 --> 0:17:11.600
<v Speaker 2>depth at receiver that a guy like grandtu Bos who

0:17:11.640 --> 0:17:14.360
<v Speaker 2>performed so well throughout camp it really didn't have very

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<v Speaker 2>many off days. If he's not able to make this

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<v Speaker 2>roster again, I think is another reminder of just how talented,

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<v Speaker 2>how deep, and how young the Packers are at many

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<v Speaker 2>spots on this team.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that clutch comment that Gudakuns made about Malie Keith

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of, you know, being able to make you

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<v Speaker 1>a key play at a key time. We saw it

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<v Speaker 1>last year as a game the Packers lost, unfortunately, But

0:17:35.200 --> 0:17:37.719
<v Speaker 1>the Monday night game against the Giants, the guy who

0:17:37.840 --> 0:17:40.720
<v Speaker 1>catches the touchdown pass in the final couple of minutes

0:17:40.720 --> 0:17:43.200
<v Speaker 1>that gave the Packers a chance to win that game

0:17:43.640 --> 0:17:45.840
<v Speaker 1>was maliek Keith. It was a tough play at the pylon.

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<v Speaker 1>The previous play, he had just had what he thought

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<v Speaker 1>was going to be the touchdown catch and had just

0:17:50.160 --> 0:17:52.560
<v Speaker 1>got knocked out of his hands by the defender. Came

0:17:52.680 --> 0:17:54.639
<v Speaker 1>right back on the next play it was fourth, it

0:17:54.680 --> 0:17:57.440
<v Speaker 1>was either third or fourth down. Jordan Love went right

0:17:57.480 --> 0:18:00.200
<v Speaker 1>back to him and and he makes that touchdown. Those

0:18:00.240 --> 0:18:04.080
<v Speaker 1>are the kinds of things that stick with decision makers

0:18:04.160 --> 0:18:06.080
<v Speaker 1>right when it comes to you're trying to decide between

0:18:06.119 --> 0:18:08.920
<v Speaker 1>this guy and that guy. And Grant Dubo's he did

0:18:09.000 --> 0:18:12.120
<v Speaker 1>everything he could. He also he was performing on special

0:18:12.119 --> 0:18:15.120
<v Speaker 1>teams quite well, putting some really good special teams film

0:18:15.160 --> 0:18:17.240
<v Speaker 1>out there as well as what he was doing at receiver.

0:18:17.760 --> 0:18:22.320
<v Speaker 1>Unique situation in Miami for him because Miami initially only

0:18:22.400 --> 0:18:25.320
<v Speaker 1>kept four wide receivers on it's fifty three. They have

0:18:25.359 --> 0:18:28.400
<v Speaker 1>Odell Beckham Junior, who is on the pup list, they

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<v Speaker 1>have another wide receiver who was put on injured reserve

0:18:31.080 --> 0:18:34.280
<v Speaker 1>with the designation to return, and then they went and

0:18:34.280 --> 0:18:37.440
<v Speaker 1>claimed Dubos to essentially be their number five receiver for

0:18:37.720 --> 0:18:40.440
<v Speaker 1>right now depending on how long it takes those other

0:18:40.440 --> 0:18:42.679
<v Speaker 1>guys to come back. So a big time opportunity for

0:18:42.760 --> 0:18:46.000
<v Speaker 1>him and hope it goes well, but it's one of

0:18:46.080 --> 0:18:49.800
<v Speaker 1>those things that you just never know exactly what everybody

0:18:49.880 --> 0:18:52.359
<v Speaker 1>else's situation is around the league. I think in a

0:18:52.400 --> 0:18:55.200
<v Speaker 1>perfect world, the Packers would love to have brought Grant

0:18:55.240 --> 0:18:59.840
<v Speaker 1>Dubo's back to the practice squad, but the claim pro

0:19:00.359 --> 0:19:02.679
<v Speaker 1>is out there for reason. It's for players to get

0:19:03.040 --> 0:19:07.159
<v Speaker 1>opportunities with other teams, and do Bo's is going to

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<v Speaker 1>get that now.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think the one thing that you could tell

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<v Speaker 2>even when Brian was talking about is Matt Lafleur as

0:19:12.680 --> 0:19:14.679
<v Speaker 2>well is probably as disappointed as they were not to

0:19:14.720 --> 0:19:17.760
<v Speaker 2>be able to have Grant, you could have cut Malie

0:19:17.840 --> 0:19:19.760
<v Speaker 2>Keith or bow Melt and both of those guys are

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<v Speaker 2>getting claimed too. I firmly believe that there are no

0:19:23.440 --> 0:19:26.640
<v Speaker 2>what IFFs at that position. We know how talented they are,

0:19:26.680 --> 0:19:28.440
<v Speaker 2>and there would have been a team like Miami there

0:19:28.480 --> 0:19:30.600
<v Speaker 2>that is looking for someone when they are that banged

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<v Speaker 2>up to augment their current roster. And the other aspect

0:19:34.119 --> 0:19:36.359
<v Speaker 2>of it, too is it's not like this is a

0:19:36.400 --> 0:19:39.600
<v Speaker 2>team with several older players where Okay, well Grant, if

0:19:39.640 --> 0:19:42.280
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't happen this year, could be he was continually

0:19:42.320 --> 0:19:44.840
<v Speaker 2>going to be fighting this uphill climb against the same

0:19:44.920 --> 0:19:47.639
<v Speaker 2>exact players for the next two seasons. Get Lord willing

0:19:47.680 --> 0:19:51.040
<v Speaker 2>health wise. So it is what it is. But again,

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<v Speaker 2>the fun part about that day, Mike is a fact,

0:19:53.400 --> 0:19:55.240
<v Speaker 2>like Mulik Keith telling people at his locker. You know,

0:19:55.440 --> 0:19:58.240
<v Speaker 2>Jason Vrabel, the Packers passing game coordinator, his position coach

0:19:58.280 --> 0:19:59.639
<v Speaker 2>last year, was the one that called him to let

0:19:59.680 --> 0:20:01.880
<v Speaker 2>him know made the team. You know, we talk about

0:20:01.880 --> 0:20:04.639
<v Speaker 2>an Aaron Moseby on the defensive line that was on

0:20:04.680 --> 0:20:06.679
<v Speaker 2>the practice squad all of last season. He has not

0:20:06.760 --> 0:20:09.119
<v Speaker 2>appeared in an actual NFL regular season game in almost

0:20:09.160 --> 0:20:12.200
<v Speaker 2>two years. Those are the stories that make you feel

0:20:12.240 --> 0:20:14.440
<v Speaker 2>good about this. And you know, as much as it

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<v Speaker 2>hurts to see some guys end up leaving, being able

0:20:17.119 --> 0:20:19.560
<v Speaker 2>to have that knowledge of how talented this roster is,

0:20:19.920 --> 0:20:22.800
<v Speaker 2>paired with the guys that have some pretty inspiring stories,

0:20:23.200 --> 0:20:24.760
<v Speaker 2>you know, it makes for a pretty special day.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's It's funny because we talked before the you know,

0:20:29.160 --> 0:20:33.400
<v Speaker 1>the preseason finale against Baltimore. You know, I wouldn't say

0:20:33.400 --> 0:20:36.840
<v Speaker 1>it's every year, but there are years where somebody in

0:20:36.880 --> 0:20:40.320
<v Speaker 1>that final preseason game plays his way onto the fifty

0:20:40.400 --> 0:20:43.080
<v Speaker 1>three man roster. This year, the answer to that question

0:20:43.240 --> 0:20:45.240
<v Speaker 1>was Aaron Mosby. He went out there, he got the

0:20:45.280 --> 0:20:49.080
<v Speaker 1>strip sack, which his teammate Anthony Johnson Junior scooped up

0:20:49.119 --> 0:20:51.879
<v Speaker 1>and ran for a touchdown. He also dropped into coverage

0:20:51.920 --> 0:20:56.480
<v Speaker 1>and intercepted a pass. Packers loaded up on the defensive line.

0:20:56.480 --> 0:20:59.359
<v Speaker 1>They have a lot of depth at both interior d

0:20:59.480 --> 0:21:03.119
<v Speaker 1>line and on the edges, and but that you know,

0:21:03.240 --> 0:21:06.600
<v Speaker 1>at a premier position at edge rusher, you show that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of promise, in that kind of potential, and the

0:21:08.720 --> 0:21:11.720
<v Speaker 1>Packers knew, you know, they know the growth that Mosby

0:21:11.800 --> 0:21:14.480
<v Speaker 1>has made that entire first year is spending his entire

0:21:14.600 --> 0:21:17.560
<v Speaker 1>undrafted rookie year on the practice squad. He makes it

0:21:17.600 --> 0:21:22.439
<v Speaker 1>now and and hats off to bow Melton, his third

0:21:22.520 --> 0:21:25.880
<v Speaker 1>crack at trying to make an initial fifty three. Obviously,

0:21:25.880 --> 0:21:29.400
<v Speaker 1>he's played in NFL games, he's got statistics to his name,

0:21:29.960 --> 0:21:32.159
<v Speaker 1>made some big plays for the Packers down the stretch

0:21:32.240 --> 0:21:34.560
<v Speaker 1>last year, but this was the time of year that

0:21:34.680 --> 0:21:37.360
<v Speaker 1>he was always getting the bad news and end up,

0:21:37.400 --> 0:21:39.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, going onto a practice squad or making his

0:21:39.840 --> 0:21:42.520
<v Speaker 1>way from Seattle to Green Bay, whatever the case might be.

0:21:43.160 --> 0:21:45.320
<v Speaker 1>He's on the fifty three now to start the season,

0:21:45.359 --> 0:21:47.040
<v Speaker 1>and that's pretty exciting for that young man.

0:21:47.160 --> 0:21:48.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you could just see what it means to

0:21:48.920 --> 0:21:51.439
<v Speaker 2>that locker room to have bow Melton in there. I

0:21:51.440 --> 0:21:53.760
<v Speaker 2>think I've used the analogy a couple times before. I mean,

0:21:53.760 --> 0:21:55.920
<v Speaker 2>he is the heartbeat of that receiving core. He might

0:21:55.960 --> 0:21:58.120
<v Speaker 2>not be the guy that's getting the fifty snaps a game,

0:21:58.200 --> 0:22:01.000
<v Speaker 2>but you know, he's one of these straws that stir

0:22:01.119 --> 0:22:04.040
<v Speaker 2>that drink and make what this team is pretty special.

0:22:04.080 --> 0:22:06.120
<v Speaker 2>And you know, just the way he's dealt with us

0:22:06.119 --> 0:22:09.400
<v Speaker 2>and his professionalism since the day he got the day

0:22:09.400 --> 0:22:12.240
<v Speaker 2>he signed off of Seattle's practice squad. I'll never forget that,

0:22:12.320 --> 0:22:13.880
<v Speaker 2>talking to him for the first time in the locker

0:22:13.960 --> 0:22:16.560
<v Speaker 2>room and just basically just being hopeful for an opportunity,

0:22:16.640 --> 0:22:19.679
<v Speaker 2>understanding he's a on paper, he has four three four speed,

0:22:19.680 --> 0:22:21.680
<v Speaker 2>but he has to play that out and on an

0:22:21.680 --> 0:22:24.320
<v Speaker 2>actual playing surface. And I thought last year he did that.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, he mentioned when I talked to him after

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<v Speaker 2>the game on Saturday, you know, he got the eighteen

0:22:30.160 --> 0:22:32.280
<v Speaker 2>yard touchdown and had been a training camp filled with

0:22:32.320 --> 0:22:34.040
<v Speaker 2>some ups and downs, but he felt like there were

0:22:34.080 --> 0:22:36.199
<v Speaker 2>more ups and I think the Packers agreed with that

0:22:36.280 --> 0:22:39.280
<v Speaker 2>as well. And there are certain intangibles with him that

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<v Speaker 2>I think just make it so that you just you can't.

0:22:43.240 --> 0:22:47.480
<v Speaker 2>You can't. You can't risk losing that player again like

0:22:47.520 --> 0:22:49.879
<v Speaker 2>the Packers did last season. They were fortunate he lasted

0:22:49.880 --> 0:22:51.479
<v Speaker 2>as long as he's done the practice squad. They were

0:22:51.480 --> 0:22:53.440
<v Speaker 2>able to elevate him and then sign him in December,

0:22:54.080 --> 0:22:55.640
<v Speaker 2>and you know, it was a big part of them

0:22:55.640 --> 0:22:58.240
<v Speaker 2>having the run that they had. So, yeah, Kudo's the bow.

0:22:58.240 --> 0:23:00.040
<v Speaker 2>He's gone about it the right way and ultimately I

0:23:00.119 --> 0:23:01.240
<v Speaker 2>got a huge reward from it.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Well you mentioned it earlier in the show.

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<v Speaker 1>The kickoff in Brazil against the Philadelphia Eagles is eight

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<v Speaker 1>days away, which is hard to process right now. But

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<v Speaker 1>that being said, the Packers are turning the page. They

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<v Speaker 1>are starting their full fledged prep for the season opener,

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<v Speaker 1>and that includes a practice. Actually, Matt Lafuer informed the

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<v Speaker 1>media the Packers will be practicing Thursday night under the

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<v Speaker 1>lights at lambeau Field, sort of spending their Thursday mimicking

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<v Speaker 1>what game day next Friday in Brazil is going to be.

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<v Speaker 1>They're going to have some morning meetings and and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>sort of like that walk through type of stuff. Then

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<v Speaker 1>the players will get a little bit of a break

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<v Speaker 1>and then they're going to come out under the lights

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<v Speaker 1>for what sounds like it's going to be a pretty

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<v Speaker 1>high intensity practice at lambeau Field. It's a close practice.

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<v Speaker 1>We won't be there, there won't be any cameras or

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<v Speaker 1>photographers there. But this is what's always so interesting to me,

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<v Speaker 1>is that is that you know, you go through that

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<v Speaker 1>last preseason game, you've still got the ninety guys on

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<v Speaker 1>the roster. You have to make all these decisions. This

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<v Speaker 1>year it included a trade and a waiver claim, both

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<v Speaker 1>at very very significant spots on the roster. And then

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<v Speaker 1>with the Packers not having until that first Sunday of

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<v Speaker 1>the regular season, the fact that their first game is

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<v Speaker 1>on a Friday, and we'll be traveling to Brazil a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of days before that. It's all happening pretty fast here, Wes,

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<v Speaker 1>and that opening night kickoff for Green Bay against the

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<v Speaker 1>Eagles is going to be here before we know.

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<v Speaker 2>There are so many things I've taken issue with the

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<v Speaker 2>seventeen game schedule and all these different things the NFL

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<v Speaker 2>has done with tinkering with the league and the outlook

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<v Speaker 2>the last few years. I will put on record, I

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<v Speaker 2>will be on video saying I absolutely love the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that they have this mini buy or whatever you want

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<v Speaker 2>to call it before the opener. Absolutely, it adds so

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<v Speaker 2>much to not only trying to keep rosters healthy, but

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<v Speaker 2>it allows coaches like Matt Lafleur to try to do

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<v Speaker 2>some interesting stuff this week. You would never do this

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<v Speaker 2>if the Green Bay Packers were playing in six or

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<v Speaker 2>seven days. You would do this if you have an

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<v Speaker 2>extra day or two to kind of, you know, see

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<v Speaker 2>where you're at with your roster, get guys comfortable, and

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<v Speaker 2>also get them acclimated to not necessarily the time change

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<v Speaker 2>or any of those type of things, but the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that you now need to prepare a young football team

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<v Speaker 2>for primetime action in an international site in week one. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what the Green Bay Packers are doing. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think you know, as many chain eges is this is

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<v Speaker 2>going to be and we're going to have to get

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<v Speaker 2>through it. In a lot of ways, the Packers are

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<v Speaker 2>the guinea pig for this thing in terms of just

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<v Speaker 2>the amount of travel that is going to go into

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<v Speaker 2>this before playing a high stakes matchup where you only

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<v Speaker 2>have seventeen of them. That is going to be a

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<v Speaker 2>huge challenge, but it also is a major opportunity. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's a major opportunity to put this team on

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<v Speaker 2>display for the entire country, the entire viewing public, and

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<v Speaker 2>also a guy like Jordan Love who is now really

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<v Speaker 2>put himself out there now is one of the faces

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<v Speaker 2>of this league. With the contract that he got and

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<v Speaker 2>the way that he played down the stretch last season,

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<v Speaker 2>that's all very exciting, and honestly, Mike, so much of

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<v Speaker 2>this is going to be a day to day just

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<v Speaker 2>how is this going to play out? What is this

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<v Speaker 2>going to be like? In Matt Lflour and his coaching

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<v Speaker 2>staff are trying to do their best they can to

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<v Speaker 2>sort of predict that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's interesting because then we'll talk about this more

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<v Speaker 1>next week leading up to the matchup itself. But you

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<v Speaker 1>look at these two franchises that are meeting in this

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<v Speaker 1>inaugural game in Brazil to open the season. The Packers

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<v Speaker 1>are a team that they made this huge transition last year,

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<v Speaker 1>not only at quarterback, which obviously as the headliner, but

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<v Speaker 1>with all these other young players on offense around him.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been it's been this ongoing transition to where a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of struggles early in the year. Then you hit

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<v Speaker 1>your stride late in the year, you make the playoffs,

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<v Speaker 1>and you make a run and you come within an

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<v Speaker 1>eyelash of getting to the NFC Championship game. And now

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<v Speaker 1>the Packers are looking to build on that and keep

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<v Speaker 1>their arrow pointing up right. The Philadelphia Eagles are coming

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<v Speaker 1>into this where a couple of years ago they were

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<v Speaker 1>the NFC champions. They were in the Super Bowl and

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<v Speaker 1>they lose a heartbreaking Super Bowl against the Kansas City Chiefs.

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<v Speaker 1>They come back the following year and everybody's saying, what

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<v Speaker 1>super Bowl hangover? The Philadelphia Eagles are ten to one.

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<v Speaker 1>They're looking like they're going to be the number one

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<v Speaker 1>seed in the NFC again. Then the adversity hits and

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<v Speaker 1>things start to snowball the wrong way, and then they

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<v Speaker 1>end up losing their division to the Dallas Cowboys. They

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<v Speaker 1>get in as a wild card, but they are one

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<v Speaker 1>and done in the playoffs, and now coming off of that,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody is wondering just where the Philadelphia Eagles headed. Two

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<v Speaker 1>very very different narratives about two teams that, in their

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<v Speaker 1>own way and at different times, have been standard bearers

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<v Speaker 1>within the NFC. But the narratives around these two clubs

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<v Speaker 1>right now heading into Week one of twenty twenty four,

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't be more different.

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<v Speaker 2>No, And it's interesting too. And the Krimbit Packers are

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<v Speaker 2>nine to eight and they squeak into the playoffs and

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<v Speaker 2>look as good as they did in Dallas against the

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<v Speaker 2>number one seed and then conversely number two seed. Excuse me, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Then you look over on this other side of things,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's the Philadelphia Eagles, who for a time there

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<v Speaker 2>looked like they were going to be the number one seed.

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<v Speaker 2>These fall off dur in the final half of the season,

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<v Speaker 2>and now they're suddenly in a position where they have

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<v Speaker 2>questions answered. Nick Sirianni has questions to answer going into

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<v Speaker 2>this year. Jason Kelcey is no longer there at center.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the future of the Tush Push? I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 2>all those type of things that you're going to have

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<v Speaker 2>to have. I had to do it. I had to

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<v Speaker 2>do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Bring that up, come on.

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<v Speaker 2>But all jokes aside, there's a lot out there yet

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<v Speaker 2>for Philadelphia. And when you get San Francisco's going through

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<v Speaker 2>a two man. When you get that close greatness, immortality, legacy,

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<v Speaker 2>and you fall short, it sticks with you. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think both of those franchises in a lot of ways,

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<v Speaker 2>and especially with the Eagles, of how things went at

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<v Speaker 2>the end tail end of last season. It's a very

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<v Speaker 2>important game for them come out of the box.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's a reminder and we'll talk about this, i'm sure,

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<v Speaker 1>throughout the course of the twenty twenty four season, but

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<v Speaker 1>what happened to both the Packers and the Eagles last

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<v Speaker 1>year and how their season's unfolded, it is a reminder

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<v Speaker 1>of how much of a marathon this seventeen game gauntlet

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<v Speaker 1>is because after after nine games, the Packers were three

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<v Speaker 1>and six. After eleven games, the Eagles were ten to one,

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<v Speaker 1>And look at where those two teams were in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of January. They were in completely different, like polar

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<v Speaker 1>opposite type of situations from where they had been just

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of months earlier. So just a reminder, something

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<v Speaker 1>to keep in mind, and we'll talk about it more

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<v Speaker 1>next week.

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<v Speaker 2>The dangerous thing about having a seventh seed at Michael

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<v Speaker 2>is it isn't necessarily the seventh best team in your conference,

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<v Speaker 2>right And the Green Bay Packers, how they finished that

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<v Speaker 2>year was very different than how they played the first

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<v Speaker 2>six seven weeks of the year. Yeah, and Unfortunately, the

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<v Speaker 2>Dallas Cowboys are on their seeding.

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<v Speaker 1>End well, fortunately for the Packers, fortunately for the Packers,

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<v Speaker 1>fortunately for Cowboys fans and Jerry Jones. With that, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>call it a rap on this edition of Packers Unscripted.

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<v Speaker 1>Be sure to follow all of our coverage of the

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<v Speaker 1>team heading into Week one and off to Brazil. We

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<v Speaker 1>will have more show more Packers Unscripted next week as well.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got it all for you on Packers dot com

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<v Speaker 1>for Wesi and Mike. Thank you for tuning in everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>We will see you next time.